1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:02,800 Speaker 1: Ahead on an American Sunrise early edition. 2 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 2: Jimmy Carter, America's thirty ninth president, has died at age 3 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:09,559 Speaker 2: one hundred and Even though he left office forty four 4 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 2: years ago, much of his work is still very much 5 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:19,600 Speaker 2: an effect today, and that's mostly not a good thing. Meanwhile, 6 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:22,960 Speaker 2: America's upcoming forty seventh president is weighing in on a 7 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 2: healthy debate about immigration and tech jobs that included Elon Musk. 8 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 2: Several groups inside the big tent Republican Party had some 9 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 2: spirited arguments, but now the focus is on a solution 10 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 2: spoiler alert that's called democracy. But there's been no internal 11 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 2: debates about what to do about illegal migrants who commit 12 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:48,919 Speaker 2: even more crimes when they get to America, and incoming 13 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 2: borders are Tom Holman refuses to bend to liberal pressure 14 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 2: on deportations. 15 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 1: Smile, Joe, you're on. We just proved you're a liar camera. 16 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:05,680 Speaker 2: After all these years of telling us he never met 17 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 2: with his son Hunter's business partners, here we have the 18 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 2: photographic evidence that he not only met them, he helped 19 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:14,760 Speaker 2: introduce them to China's communist leaders. 20 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 1: But does Joe think that's a bad thing? I guess not. 21 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 1: As more and more. 22 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 2: Reports say he's starting to openly tell people he would 23 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 2: have won the election and he stayed in the race. 24 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 2: American Sunrise Early Edition is staying in the race, and 25 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 2: it starts right now. 26 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 3: Welcome to American Sunrise Early Edition. The show we're faith, 27 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 3: freedom and the values that built this nation takes centers to. 28 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 1: Your good deeds and bad deeds. That's how we're gonna 29 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 1: judge you. 30 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 3: Join host Jake Novak as he breaks down the stories 31 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 3: that matter. 32 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: He will be letting the public know regularly what we 33 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 1: have found. 34 00:01:55,680 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 3: American Sunrise Early Edition with your host Jake no starts now. 35 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 2: Good morning, and welcome to American Sunrise Early Edition. I'm 36 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 2: Jake Novak, and I'm very grateful you're joining us today. Well, 37 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 2: we learned yesterday that former President Jimmy Carter passed away 38 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 2: at age one hundred. He had been in hospice care 39 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 2: for almost two years, so this was not a surprise, 40 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:24,920 Speaker 2: of course, and of course we extend our condolences to 41 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 2: his family and to his friends. But this is a 42 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 2: news program, and I'm a political analyst, and we're going 43 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 2: to do our jobs and analyze Jimmy Carter's political legacy. 44 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 1: Joining me how to do that and more. 45 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 2: Is Grace Curley, the superstar host of the Grace Curley 46 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 2: Radio Show every Monday through Friday. And Grace, what comes 47 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 2: to mind when you hear Jimmy Carter's name? So someone 48 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 2: who's from a younger generation, I just wonder, Yet again, 49 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 2: we can't assume that everyone knows all the history, So 50 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 2: I wonder what comes to your mind when you hear 51 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 2: his name. 52 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 4: Jake, thank you for having me, and I also want 53 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 4: to send my condolences to the Carter family. But there's 54 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 4: no denying that when I hear Jimmy Carter, or especially 55 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 4: when it's been brought up over the last few years, 56 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 4: it's usually been in relation to Joe Biden's presidency and 57 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:17,080 Speaker 4: the tougher parts of Joe Biden's presidency, Inflation, the cost 58 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:20,639 Speaker 4: of living, the general malaise that people have been feeling 59 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 4: over the last four years. I think there has been 60 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 4: a lot of throwbacks for people to the Carter years, 61 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 4: and then of course you have older people who share 62 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:32,959 Speaker 4: their stories about those years and right before Ronald Reagan 63 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 4: came in and changed things, people talk about gas lines. 64 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 4: I mean that's something that that's something that older people 65 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 4: love to tell younger people about. 66 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: You have no idea what it was like waiting in. 67 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 4: The gas lines, getting a number and having to figure 68 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 4: out if you could go that day. And so that 69 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 4: is for for me what I associate with Jimmy Carter. 70 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 4: And now it's nice today to hear all of the 71 00:03:57,680 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 4: other parts of his life as a person, you know, 72 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 4: the the fact that he was married for seventy seven years, 73 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 4: the fact that he was by all accounts a great father, 74 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 4: a great husband. But there's no denying that when you 75 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 4: talk about the political aspects and his political legacy, that 76 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 4: that is what comes to mind for me. 77 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:19,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think this day will be certainly mixed with 78 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:22,160 Speaker 2: the proper respect. There were a lot of people who 79 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:23,599 Speaker 2: were saying, well, you know, you need to weigh a 80 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 2: day or so. The problem with that is this is 81 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 2: when history really gets recorded for many decades to come, 82 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 2: if not more, until a really smart historian author comes 83 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 2: and writes a really good book explaining the realities. But honestly, 84 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 2: this was a failed presidency, one that enabled the Islamist 85 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 2: terror that has really hurt the world since then. 86 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:44,799 Speaker 1: And he's been. 87 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:46,479 Speaker 2: Someone as an ex president who, while he did do 88 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 2: some very important charity work, and I thank him for that. 89 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 2: I'm a monthly donor to Habitat for Humanity, which is 90 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:53,279 Speaker 2: one of his big charities, So I certainly put my 91 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:55,039 Speaker 2: money where my mouth is there. I've been a monthly 92 00:04:55,040 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 2: donor for thirty years. But he also embraced, literally embraced Hamas, 93 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 2: literally enabled a lot of people who said the most 94 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 2: incredible blood libels against Israel and the Jewish people. And 95 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 2: you can't really forgiven for that. And that'll be something 96 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 2: that we talk about today. But there's another thing going 97 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:14,919 Speaker 2: on today, Grace, because it's something that's unusual on sadly 98 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:17,679 Speaker 2: in America, and that's been happening for the last few days. 99 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 2: A group of politically active leaders and ordinary citizens are 100 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 2: having a debate. 101 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 1: Some of it was a little nasty, but. 102 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 2: No one was canceled or excommunicated or sent to wherever 103 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 2: Keith Olberman lives. 104 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 1: I'm talking about the h one B visa debate that. 105 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 2: Included Elon Musk, vivek Ramaswami, our own Steve Bannon, and 106 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 2: eventually President Trump weighed in. And now Elon Musk and 107 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 2: others are talking about solutions to a problem. 108 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 1: Grace. I know the regime. 109 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 2: News media is trying to call this a schism, and 110 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:50,839 Speaker 2: it's like we have two popes. They're calling it a 111 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 2: schism in magaworld. But I have another word for it, democracy. 112 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:56,280 Speaker 2: How about you? 113 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 4: No, I totally agree with you. And I was reading 114 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 4: a piece today by Marcus and he said the same thing. 115 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 4: But it's amazing because you when you start to see this, Jake, 116 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 4: and I was telling you about how on Friday this 117 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:09,479 Speaker 4: story was really brewing, and I'm mad at myself that 118 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:13,600 Speaker 4: I didn't focus on it more. But it's crazy because 119 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 4: I at least hit the panic button a little bit, 120 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 4: because I my mindset is, oh gosh, we just we 121 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 4: just won this election. We're just starting to make a 122 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 4: lot of progress, and now we're going to start fighting 123 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:26,279 Speaker 4: each other. What's wrong with us? Why can't we all 124 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 4: just shut up and get on the same page. And 125 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 4: that's me and that's not that's not the way it 126 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:33,279 Speaker 4: should be. I have to kind of stop that instinct 127 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 4: of saying everyone get on the same page. Everyone, you know, 128 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:39,479 Speaker 4: march together here, like get your marching orders and just 129 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 4: make things happen. That's how the Democrats work. That's not 130 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 4: how we work. And there's a when you have a 131 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 4: giant tent like this, And that was one of the 132 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 4: most amazing ads when Trump was running for president was 133 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 4: when he had Rfk Junior, Tulci Gabbard, he had Alon Musk, 134 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 4: all of these people under this giant tent and you 135 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 4: had Kid Rock singing in the background, and you think, Wow, 136 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 4: these are some great minds and they're not going to 137 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:06,599 Speaker 4: agree on everything, and that's okay. And that's how we 138 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 4: get to this place where, like you said, even in 139 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 4: the last twenty four hours, people have been offering solutions. 140 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 4: Do the visa programs in this country make sense in 141 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 4: in general? 142 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 5: Yes? 143 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 4: Do they need reform? 144 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 1: Absolutely? 145 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 4: And I think to have someone like Elon Musk, who's 146 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 4: benefited so much from these and who says, hey, I 147 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 4: wouldn't be here without this, to have him be able 148 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 4: to say I support this, but I hear you, and 149 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 4: I hear the changes that need to be that need 150 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 4: to go into effect, and I see how this is 151 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 4: being taken advantage of. That's really important too. And so 152 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 4: it's been really fun to watch over the last few 153 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 4: hours this kind of switch towards the positive. And also, 154 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 4: I will say it's a good reminder for all of 155 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 4: us that you do not want to squash out debate 156 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 4: and spirited discussion about difference as an opinion, because a 157 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 4: lot of things, and people forget this, in politics, a 158 00:07:57,800 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 4: lot of things are nuanced. A lot of things are 159 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 4: not black. I think you lose a lot of that 160 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 4: on the Internet on Twitter, but a lot of things 161 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 4: have layers to them, and you be better off opening 162 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 4: up your mind a little bit and actually listening to people. 163 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I love how you have TV journalists talking 164 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 2: about how oh there's you know, these people are just 165 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 2: putting things just in black and white on the Internet 166 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 2: or on social media. 167 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 1: TV's been doing that. 168 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 2: For much longer because TV has time constraints, and you 169 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:30,119 Speaker 2: actually absolutely hear more voices and get more nuanced believe 170 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 2: it or not, on social media than you usually do 171 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 2: on TV news, with maybe this show and your show 172 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:36,319 Speaker 2: as an exception, all right, Grace. On the other hand, 173 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:41,559 Speaker 2: I see no real internal debate about the whole deportation 174 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 2: stuff about illegal migrants, especially the ones who commit further 175 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 2: crimes once they get here. Now and coming borders are 176 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 2: Tom Homan has been having the guts and I think 177 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 2: he's got a lot of guts to go on every 178 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:57,439 Speaker 2: regime news media show where they keep trying to demonize him, 179 00:08:57,600 --> 00:08:59,559 Speaker 2: They try to get him to back down on deportation, 180 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 2: but he never does. And Grace, how stupid and bad 181 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 2: will these people look when Homan makes violent criminal migrants 182 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 2: his first priority for deportation. They're gonna have to defend 183 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:12,559 Speaker 2: some of these horrific people. And I think he's setting 184 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 2: them up for that pretty well. 185 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think one of the reasons, Jake, and 186 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 4: you're absolutely right on this, I think one of the 187 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 4: reasons that he's been able to be so steadfast in 188 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 4: his positions and not back down to this kind of 189 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 4: manipulative narrative that's put out there by the media, by 190 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 4: people in the network news where they try to paint 191 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 4: Republicans who want a strong border as somehow less humane 192 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 4: or less decent or less caring or compassionate than Democrats. 193 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:43,719 Speaker 4: Tom Holman knows the truth about that. And there was 194 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 4: a really interesting exchange a few years ago between him 195 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 4: and AOC or him and it might not have been AOC, 196 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 4: but it was a Democrat and a congressional hearing, and 197 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 4: he was explaining how if anyone knows the hurt that 198 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 4: is caused by these open borders. If anyone knows the 199 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:02,199 Speaker 4: pain that these children experience when they're sent here, sometimes alone, 200 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 4: sometimes at the hands of a coyote, it's Tom Holman, 201 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 4: and so he fully understands how having open borders, having 202 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 4: no law and order is actually the least humane way 203 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 4: to run a country for everyone involved. And that's been 204 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:20,839 Speaker 4: one of the biggest lies that has been pushed by 205 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 4: the left is that somehow Joe Biden, by coming in 206 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 4: and by eliminating a strong border and by welcoming everyone 207 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:30,959 Speaker 4: to surge the border, that was his word, surge the border, 208 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 4: he's actually caused so much carnage and so much pain 209 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 4: unnecessarily to women, to children, to so many people who 210 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 4: have come here. And we're such a better nation, and 211 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 4: we're such a stronger nation, and we do so much 212 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:50,320 Speaker 4: better for everyone when we have a strong border and 213 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:52,079 Speaker 4: when we enforce that border. 214 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, the compassion argument needs to be more 215 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 2: expanded again. We've allowed the left to get a monopoly 216 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:03,679 Speaker 2: on it. And there's nothing compassionate about massive illegal migration. 217 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 1: There's nothing. 218 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 2: It's almost like you would call it an attractive nuisance. 219 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:12,839 Speaker 2: We bring people in, it's it's a sad situation. Grace Curley, 220 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 2: thanks so much. 221 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 1: For joining us here. Have a very happy New Year. 222 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:18,320 Speaker 2: I know you're you're a prisoner of a blue state 223 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 2: like I am up there in Boston, but this is 224 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 2: where I think the best TV and radio commentary comes from. 225 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 1: So thank you so much for joining us. 226 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 4: Thanks for having me. 227 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 2: Jake all right, coming up, Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson is 228 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 2: a slow learner, or maybe he's just a never learner, 229 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 2: but we'll take a closer look at what his own 230 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 2: citizens are urging him to figure out when it comes 231 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 2: to illegal migrants on Chicago's streets. 232 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 1: And we'll also have. 233 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:46,680 Speaker 2: The latest on this tragic plane crash in South Korea 234 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 2: that left almost two hundred people dead. American Sunrise early 235 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 2: edition will be right back. 236 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:15,559 Speaker 1: That is Portland, Maine. 237 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 2: My first job in TV was in Bangor, and that's 238 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:20,680 Speaker 2: how you pronounce it, by the way, Bangor, And that's 239 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 2: not that close to Portland. But when you've lived in 240 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:25,679 Speaker 2: Maine for a while, you get to get. 241 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 1: You feel a little, you feel a little unique. 242 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:30,439 Speaker 2: By the way, they sell lobster everywhere in Maine, including 243 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 2: at the seven eleven and at the bookstores. 244 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 1: I think every business has the right to sell lobster. 245 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 1: So if you like lobster, go to me. All right, 246 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 1: welcome back to American Sunrise Early Edition. 247 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:42,559 Speaker 2: I'm Jake Novak, and this is a really tragic, some 248 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:45,599 Speaker 2: sad story. Just two two of the one hundred and 249 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 2: eighty one people aborted jetu Air seven thirty seven eight 250 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 2: hundred jets survived when the jet crashed off a runway 251 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 2: while trying to land in one, South Korea yesterday. Now, 252 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 2: investigators are still trying to determine what caused the crash. 253 00:12:58,200 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 1: But I want to make something clear. 254 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 2: This is not the Boeing seven thirty seven Max jet 255 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 2: that's had so many problems throughout the world over the 256 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:07,199 Speaker 2: last six or seven years. This is the Boeing seven 257 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 2: thirty seven eight hundred, which has a very good safety record. 258 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:13,679 Speaker 2: But Boeing shares, by the way, right now are down 259 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 2: four percent. Not to be morbid and talk about money 260 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 2: right now, but Boeing shares are down four percent in 261 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 2: the pre market because there's just investors are worried that 262 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 2: there's another a jet problem at Boeing. All right, back 263 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 2: here in America, when will our blue state and blue 264 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 2: city politicians ever learn when it comes to welcoming illegal 265 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 2: migrants and using taxpayer money to house them, some politicians 266 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:39,079 Speaker 2: might start to learn the hard way. Here's what one 267 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:41,440 Speaker 2: former border patrol agent had to say about it here 268 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 2: on Real America's Voice America Shines Donald Trump. 269 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 6: I worked under him. We had the most secure border 270 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 6: in the history, and we were about to have it 271 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 6: completely closed. And let me tell you something. 272 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 1: I'll bet a year's salary. 273 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:56,079 Speaker 6: I'll bet, in fact, I'll bet my whole pension on 274 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 6: Tom Homan walks into Chicago and if they tried to 275 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 6: put cuffs on him, he will run over everyone in Chicago. Him. 276 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 6: The Ice and other borbitral agents, and those Chicago ped 277 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 6: officers will turn on their own politicians and attack them 278 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 6: because they want those savages out of their city as well. 279 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 6: They have a problem. They have Venezuelan gangs destroying everything. 280 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 6: You're about to have a race riot in Chicago. I 281 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 6: did a documentary. I went down to the South Side. 282 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 6: I talked to all the gang members current and passed, 283 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 6: and they all told me we're going to war. Our 284 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 6: our Johnson and all the aldermen have turned on us 285 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 6: and are given all of the money and resources to 286 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 6: illegal aliens. Let me tell you some Tom Holman is 287 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 6: the best, absolute, best pick for the borders are. And 288 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 6: then over CBP Customs and Border Protection, the commissioner is 289 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 6: going to be Rodney Scott. He was the Border Patrol 290 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 6: chief under President Trump. You're talking about two men that 291 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 6: are completely aligned ideologically. They have different personalities and that's 292 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 6: what's going to make this partnership, with this marriage work 293 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 6: so well. And I'll echo what Tom Holman said, if 294 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 6: you're an illegal a, you better pack your bags. 295 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 2: America shines with Aubrey Shines airs every Saturday right here 296 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 2: at nine am Eastern time. Now, speaking of learning their lesson, 297 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 2: perhaps the mayor who needs to learn it the most 298 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 2: as we're talking about is Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson. Luckily 299 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 2: for him, he has lots of people in his town 300 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 2: willing to tell him off. 301 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 1: Check it out. 302 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 7: You're gonna spend our tax dollars to go, Michael rob Ready. 303 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 7: You said to take Trump to court to protect these illegals. 304 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 7: You said you gonna spend our tax dollars to take 305 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 7: Trump to court to protect these illegals if they trying 306 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 7: to come and yo yo here and your district. And 307 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 7: then you said they all of y'all and cahos with 308 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 7: each other to do with. Okay, so now we're about 309 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 7: to make y'all famous. We're gonna let all y'all con 310 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 7: stitions know who y'all bratt and for that, y'all wouldn't 311 00:15:56,120 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 7: spend our tax dollars to protect illegals and to get 312 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 7: them legal services. So that's what we're doing. That's cool 313 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 7: because we're about to make all of y'all all the 314 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 7: this famous. Y'all think this has gone rat I think 315 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 7: not Pip Chicago Red. We're not playing. 316 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 1: By the way Mayor. 317 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 2: Mayor Johnson abruptly canceled the rest of that meeting not 318 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 2: long after those comments, because that woman had a bunch 319 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 2: of people following her with the same thing. But that 320 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 2: incident is just one example of how the tide I 321 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 2: really think maybe turning when it comes to sanctuary city 322 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 2: insanity and sadly the subway burning murder in New York 323 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 2: last week. I think that is what it will take 324 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 2: to create an unimpeachable argument against sanctuary cities. 325 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 1: Ask yourselves, at what. 326 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 2: Point will any New York City politician or any city 327 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 2: politician be able to defend using taxpayer money to keep 328 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 2: illegal migrants in the city without this horrific murder being 329 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 2: used as a counter argument against that. I don't think 330 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 2: that's ever going to happen. You have the video. Now, 331 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 2: everybody knows the story. Everybody knows how the person who 332 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 2: committed that crime most likely was deported and still came back. 333 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 2: It's one thing to accept these people, which was foolish 334 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 2: in the first place, but to use our tax money, 335 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 2: as that woman mentioned, to help keep them stay here, 336 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:21,400 Speaker 2: allow them to stay here when these things are happening. 337 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:23,880 Speaker 2: I just don't think it's gonna last in America, Trump 338 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:26,360 Speaker 2: or no Trump, all right, there are still many other 339 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 2: outrages going on in our cities. And take Milwaukee for example. 340 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 2: A Jewish father and his son are facing serious charges 341 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 2: for tearing down this blatantly anti Semitic mural in the 342 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 2: middle of town. 343 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 1: Look at this. 344 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 2: Of course, the dozens of incidents where anti Semites have 345 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 2: torn down posters of hostages being held by Hamasa. 346 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 1: I faced no. 347 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 2: Legal consequences, but yeah, look at this mural with the 348 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 2: swasaka in the middle of the Jewish guitar. Milwaukee District 349 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:54,199 Speaker 2: Attorney John Chisholm has a lot to answer for if 350 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 2: he really decides to go through with prosecuting these Jewish 351 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 2: men for tearing down this incredibly offensive mural. It's part 352 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:03,159 Speaker 2: of a long history, by the way, of creating a 353 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:06,160 Speaker 2: false equivalence between Jews and Nazis. It's what people who 354 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:10,360 Speaker 2: are guilty about the Holocaust do They like to tell themselves, Oh, 355 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 2: the Jews are just as bad. Can you imagine talking 356 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 2: about the victims of murder and saying, well, they kind 357 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 2: of had it coming. That's what's going on in Milwaukee 358 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 2: right now. John Chisholm, District Attorney in Milwaukee, needs to 359 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 2: drop that case. 360 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:22,160 Speaker 1: All right. 361 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 2: Coming up here now on American Sunrise Early Edition, we 362 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 2: are winding up the year, and I have a question 363 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 2: for you. Which company do you think had the best 364 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 2: year in the stock market in twenty twenty four? 365 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:34,199 Speaker 1: You might be surprised by the answer. 366 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:38,239 Speaker 2: And speaking of high times, remember when they told us 367 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 2: that legalizing pot would bring great economic prosperity to all Wait, 368 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 2: don't see you hear how much of a drag marijuana 369 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:47,160 Speaker 2: has been for investors this year? 370 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 1: Stay with us. 371 00:18:48,040 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 2: There's lots more American Sunrise Early Edition coming right up, 372 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:09,120 Speaker 2: all right, we're getting ready to start the final week 373 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 2: of trading for the stock market, and let's take a 374 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 2: look quickly where the markets are going to begin Today'm 375 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 2: going to start down. It's been a down month for 376 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 2: the stock market in December, but a. 377 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:19,400 Speaker 1: Very good year overall. 378 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 2: And still we're way up from where we were just 379 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 2: before President Trump was elected. Okay, what stock in all 380 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 2: of the S and P five hundred had the best 381 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:31,160 Speaker 2: year in twenty twenty four. No, it's not Ai, chip 382 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:32,920 Speaker 2: maker in Nvidia, even though it's gotten. 383 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 1: Most of the news media attention. 384 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 2: Actually the winner this year is Defense Tech Innovator Volunteer. 385 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 2: For those of you who are Lord of the Rings fans, 386 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 2: you know where that name comes from. That was the 387 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:46,360 Speaker 2: little crystal ball type thingy. Its shares swored three hundred 388 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:50,199 Speaker 2: and fifty three percent in twenty twenty four. Volunteer was 389 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 2: founded in two thousand and three by a number of 390 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:54,680 Speaker 2: tech giants, including Trump supporter Peter deeal By the way. 391 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:58,640 Speaker 2: It specializes in big data platforms for US defense. It's 392 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 2: got a lot of Pentagon contract. It trades at about 393 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:03,919 Speaker 2: eighty dollars a share. Now you could have had it 394 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 2: for five bucks a share. Less than two years ago. 395 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:08,399 Speaker 2: I know, I know, you missed. 396 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 1: Out, all right. Are you in the market for a 397 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 1: new car, Well, you're in luck. 398 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 2: Prices have been stabilizing lately and experts are predicting even 399 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 2: better deals in twenty twenty five. 400 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 1: Why is that happening. 401 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:22,360 Speaker 2: It's a simple matter of the law of supply and demand. 402 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 2: The major car makers are finally overcoming and their suppliers. 403 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 2: They're finally overcoming the supply issues that arose because of 404 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:32,439 Speaker 2: the COVID lockdowns a few years ago. Just wasn't enough supply. 405 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 2: Now they're getting the supply and they're coming along with 406 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 2: some decent financing deals. Also, if you're looking to buy 407 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 2: a car, you might want to wait just a few 408 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 2: more weeks. I think January is going to be a 409 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 2: big month for car sales. 410 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 1: Right. 411 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:47,200 Speaker 2: The folks at Costco are jumping further into the DEI 412 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 2: pool when so many of their competitors are getting out 413 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:54,160 Speaker 2: Walmart and some other major retailers. They've made announcements lately 414 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 2: that they're discontinuing DEI programming. 415 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 1: But Costco, for whatever. 416 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 2: Reason, is pushing back on activist shareholders who are trying 417 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 2: to pressure it to go the same way. Costco may 418 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 2: be feeling more strident about this because they've had a 419 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 2: really good year for its stock. It shares are of 420 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:11,919 Speaker 2: forty two percent for twenty twenty four. But if the 421 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 2: bud Light boycott teaches us anything, those fortunes can change fast, 422 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 2: so Costco may want to watch itself. 423 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:20,879 Speaker 1: And then there's the big losers. 424 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 2: For twenty twenty four, And just about the worst sector 425 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:27,399 Speaker 2: of stocks this year has been the marijuana growers. The 426 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 2: leading fund for investing in cannabis is down a whopping 427 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:34,439 Speaker 2: fifty one percent this year and finishing up just at 428 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 2: about its all time lows. 429 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 1: The reasons, well, it turns out legal pot. 430 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 2: Sales are still underperforming just about everywhere, a lot of 431 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 2: people are still buying from illegal dealers, and there are 432 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 2: still plenty of legal hurdles to overcome, and people just 433 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 2: aren't all that interested in smoking pod all day. It's 434 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 2: not like coke or some other foods. I mean coca cola, 435 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 2: not cocaine. It's not like some other things when people 436 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 2: might have two or three a day and get about 437 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 2: their work, job, were applies. 438 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 1: You can't do that with pot. That's the way it goes, 439 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:03,359 Speaker 1: all right. 440 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 2: Cable TV pioneer Charles Dolan has died at the age 441 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 2: of ninety eight. Dolan was one of the founders in 442 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 2: nineteen seventy two of Home Box Office that's what they 443 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 2: used to call HBO, by the way, and he founded 444 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 2: the Northeastern cable Giant Cable Vision in nineteen seventy three. 445 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 2: In nineteen eighty four, he started America's Movies Classics. He's 446 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 2: got a lot of things that he started that year. 447 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:25,880 Speaker 2: He also launched News twelve in suburban New York City. 448 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 2: That was the first twenty four hour cable news channel for. 449 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 1: Local news in the US. 450 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 2: Some of you watching may know about his son, James, 451 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 2: because he took over the family business and as a 452 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:38,679 Speaker 2: longtime owner of Madison Square Garden, the New York Rangers 453 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 2: and the New York Knicks. He's been hated by the 454 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 2: fans of those teams for a long time. But those 455 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 2: teams are doing better right now, though not the Rangers. 456 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 2: We'll talk about it another time. I know that's a 457 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:47,680 Speaker 2: sore spot for our control room crews. 458 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 1: I want to talk about all right. 459 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:52,399 Speaker 2: Rock and roll and political pioneer Ted NuGen agrees with 460 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,639 Speaker 2: me that the Joe Biden pardons and clemencys in recent 461 00:22:55,640 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 2: weeks constitute a real national emergency and a constitute crisis. 462 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 1: Here's what Ted had to say. 463 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 2: About it right here on America's Real America's Voice this weekend. 464 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,160 Speaker 5: And if we had people in charge of our government 465 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:16,880 Speaker 5: that would actually think, they wouldn't let Joe Biden pardon rapists, torturers, 466 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:22,439 Speaker 5: and murderers who rape and torture little girls in front 467 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:25,679 Speaker 5: of their mother, slice their throats, and. 468 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 8: Then kill them all. And this demonic punk, the hero 469 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:37,680 Speaker 8: of liberals and detment crafts, the king of. 470 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:42,440 Speaker 5: The Baraco Obama whoopee Goldberg, Hillary Clinton fan club, Joe 471 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 5: Biden shows mercy and pardons people who rape, torture, and 472 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 5: decapitate people. 473 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 9: In front of their family members because they deserve mercy. 474 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 9: They don't deserve mercy. If they do deserve mercy, it 475 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:01,679 Speaker 9: would be just keeping them in a cage for the 476 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 9: rest of their lives and feeding them warm, tainted water 477 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:13,639 Speaker 9: with cold coffee and stale bread. Though I would rather 478 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 9: that the mother who was there watching this illegal invader 479 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 9: from Guatemala or Venezuela or wherever he's from, that our 480 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 9: government welcomed into our country instead of that mother being 481 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 9: forced to watch him rape and torture her daughters, she 482 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 9: should have pulled out a thirty eight and filled him. 483 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:40,359 Speaker 1: Full of lead. 484 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 2: Morning everybody, Okay, Ted NuGen Spirit Campfire airs hear on 485 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:48,400 Speaker 2: Real America's Voice every Saturday at four pm Eastern Time. 486 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:50,879 Speaker 1: But this is another opportunity. 487 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:53,479 Speaker 2: To discuss the realities about the death penalty in America. 488 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:58,680 Speaker 2: Remember Joe Biden commuted the death penalties of these horrific murderers. 489 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,439 Speaker 2: And yes, you might say yourself, boy, that's still a 490 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,440 Speaker 2: tough punishment life in prison. Again, I have to remind 491 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 2: you that scenario that Ted was just talking about, where 492 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 2: they have just stale water and cold coffee. That's not 493 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 2: the life that they have in federal prison. I'm not 494 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 2: saying that they're in a spa either, but a lot 495 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:18,640 Speaker 2: of these are very very disturbed people who are now 496 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 2: in an environment with other very very disturbed people. And 497 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 2: the fact is their life in prison situation is not 498 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:26,359 Speaker 2: like it would be for you and me. 499 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,640 Speaker 1: A lot of it is the perfect environment for them. 500 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 2: Sadly, it's good that they're behind bars, but the death 501 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 2: penalty in America is not being debated properly. 502 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 1: In fact, it's not being debated at all. 503 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,880 Speaker 2: We had these Biden commutations under the cover of night, 504 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 2: and there's nothing we can really do about it unless 505 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 2: we can prove that someone else signed those commutations and 506 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 2: that Joe Biden really wasn't aware of it, and that's 507 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:51,639 Speaker 2: going to be a tough one. Hopefully someone will speak 508 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 2: up about that, but if they don't, there's nothing we 509 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:54,479 Speaker 2: can do about it. 510 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 10: Now. 511 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 2: I don't mind having the death penalty debate in America. 512 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,479 Speaker 2: I really don't. The fact is though they the anti 513 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:02,639 Speaker 2: death penalty forces don't want to have a debate. 514 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 1: They act in the shadows. 515 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,439 Speaker 2: They do things like harass the corporate boards of the 516 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 2: companies that make the chemicals for the humane lethal injections 517 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 2: that are used instead of firing squads are hanging, and 518 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,959 Speaker 2: they literally allow these drugs to become in short supply. 519 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,480 Speaker 2: So what do the states who have lethal injection do well? 520 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 2: Some of them they sometimes they do delay the executions, 521 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:25,920 Speaker 2: but other times they just go ahead with it with 522 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:30,199 Speaker 2: expire drugs, which apparently is much much more painful. This 523 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:32,119 Speaker 2: is what they do. They don't have a real debate, 524 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 2: and they claim they're being humane. Spoiler alert, they're not 525 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 2: being humane again. I'm willing to have the death penalty argument, folks, 526 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 2: but they're not. And that's a huge problem because this 527 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:44,439 Speaker 2: is an important policy, whether you're for it or against it. 528 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,919 Speaker 2: All right, coming up, a massive lawsuit has been filed 529 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 2: by the January sixth protesters based on civil rights violations, 530 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,120 Speaker 2: and they're still enduring them. By the way, wait until 531 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 2: you hear how much money they're asking for and just 532 00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:01,160 Speaker 2: how much of Jimmy Carter's real legacy will be discussed 533 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 2: today and how much of it will be just fluffed. 534 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,640 Speaker 2: We'll dig into the truth when American Sunrise early edition 535 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:22,879 Speaker 2: comes right back. It's Monday, December thirtieth. Here are some 536 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:26,160 Speaker 2: of the top stories this morning. Jimmy Carter, America's thirty 537 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,160 Speaker 2: ninth president, has died at age one hundred. He will 538 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 2: be lionized by the regime news meeting today. He can 539 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 2: be respectful, but we're going to look at his real legacy. Meanwhile, 540 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 2: America's forty fifth and forty seventh president is weighing in 541 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 2: on a healthy debate about immigration and tech jobs that 542 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 2: included Elon Musk. Several groups inside the big tent Republican 543 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,919 Speaker 2: Party had some spirited arguments, but now the focus is 544 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 2: on a solution that is what we call democracy. 545 00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:59,159 Speaker 1: Many of the January. 546 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 2: Sixth protesters, who face massive prosecution, have put together a 547 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:06,200 Speaker 2: class action lawsuit of their own against the Justice Department, 548 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,200 Speaker 2: and the amount that they're asking for in this case 549 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:14,719 Speaker 2: is eye popping. After all those years of telling us 550 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:18,200 Speaker 2: he never met with his son Hunter's business partners, here 551 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 2: we have the photographic evidence that Joe Biden not only 552 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:24,919 Speaker 2: met them, he helped introduce them to China's communist leaders. 553 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:25,400 Speaker 1: Oops. 554 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 2: And speaking of Joe Biden, he's reportedly telling everyone he 555 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:35,160 Speaker 2: would have won the election had he stayed in the race. 556 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 2: Welcome back to American Sunrise early edition. 557 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 1: I'm Jake Novak. 558 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 2: Now today much of the nation will pause to remember 559 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 2: President Jimmy Carter, and we can all do that respectfully 560 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 2: without sugarcoating or just playing lying about the peanut farmer 561 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 2: from planes. Joining me now to do that is Kevin Smith. 562 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 2: He's the host of the Loud Majority on Rumble, and 563 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 2: Kevin I never met Jimmy Carter personally, so I don't 564 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 2: have anything bad to say him about him personally, but 565 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 2: as president and as a quasi diplomat for the forty 566 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 2: four years after he left the White House. 567 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 1: I think he was a disaster, how about you, Absolutely. 568 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 11: You know, honestly, And I just want to start off 569 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 11: by saying, you know, one hundred years, God bless him. 570 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 11: You know, that's an incredible feat. He seemed to do 571 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 11: great work when he left office, but as a president 572 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:35,720 Speaker 11: he was an abject failure. Whether it was the gas 573 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 11: lines that we saw in nineteen eighty, whether it was 574 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 11: the four hundred and forty four days of the Iran 575 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 11: hostage crisis, he was an abject failure as a president. Now, 576 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 11: with that being said, that doesn't make him a bad person. 577 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 11: That doesn't mean that he didn't do good things afterwards. 578 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 11: He actually has a rather inspiring story for the people 579 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 11: like to call him the every man President. He went 580 00:29:56,760 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 11: from state senator to president in thirteen really giving the 581 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 11: sort of mantra that you know, anybody can become president 582 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 11: if you're here in the right place at the right time. 583 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 10: You get a little bit lucky. 584 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 11: But perhaps maybe not everybody is cut out for that job. 585 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you listen, there were some things he did 586 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 2: as an ex president that were good. I said in 587 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 2: the other half hour you know, Habitat for Humanity I 588 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 2: think is a great is a great charity. I've been 589 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 2: a monthly giver to Habitat for Humanity. It's just an 590 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 2: automatic thing out of my bank account of my credit 591 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 2: card for almost like thirty years. So I'm certainly not 592 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 2: demonizing everything that he touched, but as an ex president, 593 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 2: in addition to that, and that's the good stuff. 594 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 1: In addition to that, he. 595 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 2: Literally embraced hamas he's literally responsible for this blood libel 596 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 2: that Israel is in apartheid state. He had a book 597 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 2: with that title. There's a lot of I'm sorry, there's 598 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 2: there's really a lot of blood on his hands. And again, 599 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 2: when people say you shouldn't speak ill of the dead, 600 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 2: they're talking about speaking ill of the dead at the funeral, 601 00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 2: at the wake, in front of the family. I would 602 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 2: never do that. I'm just talking about a man who 603 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 2: had a public life. He was president of the United States, 604 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 2: then he acted as a diplomat, and he made errors 605 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 2: that cost many, many lives. 606 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 1: And unfortunately, this. 607 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 2: Is the day that we do have to talk about it, 608 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 2: because this is when the history is documented. This is 609 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 2: when they're going to write the obituaries and if you're 610 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 2: gonna have a history about you. You really have to 611 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 2: talk about your actual history. And again no, because respect 612 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 2: for that, but then you have to talk about the record. 613 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 10: No, you're absolutely right. 614 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 11: And obviously when it comes to somebody in public life 615 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 11: like this, you know, you have to be honest about 616 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 11: what they did. And you know, with any person there 617 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,960 Speaker 11: was good. With any with every person there is bad. 618 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 11: But as you said, the legacy media is going to 619 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 11: gloss over all of the band, and you know they're 620 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 11: going to focus on the peanut farmer who became president 621 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 11: of the United States. 622 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 10: They're going to ignore, you know, all the stuff that 623 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 10: went on while he. 624 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:53,160 Speaker 11: Was president and crushing recession, the Iran hostage crisis. Really 625 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 11: the speech he gave where he said, this is the 626 00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 11: first time in American history people feel like next five 627 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 11: years is gonna be worse in the last five years. 628 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 11: One of the most demoralizing speeches in presidential history. 629 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's ways to it that he could have 630 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 2: made that statement. He could have just said, let's make 631 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 2: America great again. He could have said that instead of 632 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 2: just leaving it at that. All right, Kevin, let's talk 633 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 2: about how President Trump. You know, there's a lot of 634 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,719 Speaker 2: talk about how he will pardon many of the unjustly 635 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 2: prosecuted and persecuted January sixth protesters very early in his presidency. 636 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 2: But on top of that, a group of the January 637 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 2: six ers have banded together to file a class action 638 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 2: lawsuit against the Justice Department for fifty billion with the 639 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 2: B dollars. Now, Kevin, do you think this lawsuit has 640 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 2: a chance or is this case really about something other 641 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 2: than money? 642 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:44,840 Speaker 1: Maybe they'll get something else out of this. 643 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 10: Well, look, do I think they're gonna get their fifty billion? 644 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 10: Probably not. 645 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 11: However, getting the Department of Justice into discovery would be 646 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 11: a win in and of itself, because then we could 647 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 11: start to get some of those documents. Then we could 648 00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,479 Speaker 11: start to see what the January sixth Committee was actually 649 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 11: up to behind closed doors. 650 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:03,840 Speaker 10: What evidence did they hide? 651 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:07,480 Speaker 11: What did people like Merrick Garland say in those private emails? 652 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 11: How is it that they found a way to keep 653 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 11: somebody like ray Epps off of the prosecutorial list for 654 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:19,400 Speaker 11: so long while arresting grandmothers in Alaska. Nothing about these 655 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 11: prosecutions made sense. Some of the penalties, some of the 656 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:27,120 Speaker 11: convictions and sentences seemed to be out of control based 657 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 11: on the severity of the crime. And so if they 658 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 11: can get this into discovery, I think that's a win 659 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 11: in and of itself. 660 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, Kevin, Joe Biden, Leslie Stall, and those 661 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:42,200 Speaker 2: fifty one intelligence community folks all told us for years 662 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 2: that Joe Biden never met with Hunter Biden's Chinese business partners. 663 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 2: But there it is, good old Joe Biden as vice 664 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:52,880 Speaker 2: president schmoozing with his son, Hunter's business partners in China. 665 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,840 Speaker 2: People saw the photographic evidence of it just a couple 666 00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:57,920 Speaker 2: of days ago. We had it on earlier in the show, 667 00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 2: and he's introducing them to all these communist leaders. 668 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:01,840 Speaker 1: Kevin. 669 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:05,200 Speaker 2: The regime media is insisting now they're saying this is 670 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:07,520 Speaker 2: nothing new. So first they told us it wasn't true, 671 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:09,279 Speaker 2: and now that we see the picture as you see 672 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:12,239 Speaker 2: right now, they're saying it wasn't true. That wasn't the 673 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,040 Speaker 2: tone they took four years ago. I don't really know 674 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:16,920 Speaker 2: how they're gonna continue with this. He's not gonna be 675 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,359 Speaker 2: president anymore. Just a few more days, they're still gonna 676 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:20,319 Speaker 2: carry this guy's water. 677 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:21,440 Speaker 1: I can't believe this. 678 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 11: Well, you know, they're really leading to their own demise 679 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:27,839 Speaker 11: with this sort of stuff, and any person that looked 680 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:31,080 Speaker 11: at this rationally knew that he talked to his son 681 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,440 Speaker 11: about business. I mean, if you're watching this, when you 682 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:35,920 Speaker 11: go home to Sunday dinner with your children or with 683 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:39,920 Speaker 11: your parents, you could say, hey, son, how's work? Like 684 00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 11: every person does that. You don't think Joe Biden does 685 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 11: that when his son is making money in Kazakhstan, or 686 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:49,840 Speaker 11: in Mongolia or in the Ukraine. 687 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,839 Speaker 10: Hey, how was your trip to Kiev? Like? 688 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 11: Just to think that that's not a conversation happening at 689 00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:00,560 Speaker 11: the dinner table when every other person does that is 690 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:01,880 Speaker 11: pretty astounding. 691 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 10: But the media turning a blind. 692 00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,840 Speaker 11: Eye to this for so long, for so long, just 693 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:11,400 Speaker 11: shows you that they were purposefully ignorant. They covered their ears, 694 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 11: and they didn't want to They didn't want to hear 695 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 11: any evidence to the contrary. And it's really the reason 696 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:20,360 Speaker 11: why we're seeing so many of these networks dying of 697 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:21,000 Speaker 11: slow death. 698 00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's not only partisanship, Kevin, it's also 699 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,200 Speaker 2: you're missing on a great story. This is a great 700 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:30,440 Speaker 2: story of corruption, a great story of a way to 701 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:32,719 Speaker 2: talk about how actually there may not have been many 702 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:34,480 Speaker 2: laws broken here, and that's the problem. We need to 703 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,279 Speaker 2: start passing some laws so that you can actually not 704 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,880 Speaker 2: bribe a politician by by getting money to the child 705 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 2: or to a friend. But they missed out on a 706 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,640 Speaker 2: big story too. But Kevin, in the midst of all 707 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,920 Speaker 2: of this, Joe Biden is sure America still loves him. 708 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,799 Speaker 2: In fact, we have reports that Joe is telling just 709 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:54,919 Speaker 2: about anyone who will listen these days, that he would 710 00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:57,560 Speaker 2: have defeated Donald Trump had he stayed in the presidential 711 00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:00,440 Speaker 2: racist here, Kevin, is anyone buying this, Yes. 712 00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:02,400 Speaker 10: No, nobody's buying it. 713 00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:05,400 Speaker 11: But Joe Biden is now left in that unique position 714 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,359 Speaker 11: where he can talk about what could have been. You know, 715 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:11,480 Speaker 11: he's the starting quarterback that got taken out for the backup, 716 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:14,040 Speaker 11: and he could for the rest of his life, for 717 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,799 Speaker 11: the rest of his legacy. He's now able to say, well, 718 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:18,760 Speaker 11: if he had stuck with me, things would have been different, 719 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:23,040 Speaker 11: because nobody can refute that fact. Obviously, we saw he 720 00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,640 Speaker 11: was doing just as badly, if not as badly, in 721 00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:26,120 Speaker 11: the polls. 722 00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:27,879 Speaker 10: Now, with that being said, I. 723 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:31,720 Speaker 11: Don't think I don't I genuinely don't think Democrats really 724 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:35,080 Speaker 11: thought Kamala Harris was going to be as bad as 725 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 11: she was. 726 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:38,239 Speaker 10: But you know, I. 727 00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 11: Gotta say, I don't think it would have went any differently. 728 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,600 Speaker 11: In fact, I think that as we got more debates, 729 00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:47,560 Speaker 11: as we got more public appearances, I think that the 730 00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,360 Speaker 11: decline would have been so obvious that they would have 731 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:51,120 Speaker 11: been stuck with him. 732 00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:55,720 Speaker 10: We could have seen a Reagan type victory for President Trump. 733 00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:57,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. 734 00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,800 Speaker 2: I mean, remember, folks, he dropped out or was forced 735 00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:03,640 Speaker 2: out after that debacle of a debate on June twenty seven, 736 00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,560 Speaker 2: not before. Okay, there's no way he wins that election 737 00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:09,160 Speaker 2: after that debate. All right, Kevin. Maybe I'm the exception, 738 00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:12,239 Speaker 2: but I think the heavy debate Trump supporters have been 739 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:15,000 Speaker 2: having over the last few days has been pretty healthy. 740 00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:17,719 Speaker 1: I'm talking about this H one B visa debate. It 741 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:19,279 Speaker 1: included Elon Musk, the. 742 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:22,560 Speaker 2: Vek Ramaswami, our own Steve Bannon here at Ravin. Eventually 743 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:25,840 Speaker 2: President Trump weighed in, and now Elon Musker was talking 744 00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:28,400 Speaker 2: about how the H one B is so so important 745 00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:31,120 Speaker 2: and that's why I'm here. Now he's talking about solutions. 746 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:33,520 Speaker 2: I mean, one of the last things he said over 747 00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:36,440 Speaker 2: the weekend was, Hey, I'm not saying this program isn't broken. 748 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,000 Speaker 2: We have to fix it. So look, the regime news 749 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,319 Speaker 2: media wants to call it a schism, wants to call 750 00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:43,520 Speaker 2: it a civil war, although I've noticed they've had to 751 00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,000 Speaker 2: tone it down because no one has really gotten that crazy. 752 00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,719 Speaker 2: But you know what, this is called democracy, and I 753 00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:50,600 Speaker 2: think that the reason why they're making a big deal 754 00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:52,320 Speaker 2: at it is not only because they like to pile 755 00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:55,680 Speaker 2: on Trump and his supporters, but also because the left 756 00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:58,520 Speaker 2: has forgotten what democracy even looks like. 757 00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:00,319 Speaker 10: You know what. 758 00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,840 Speaker 11: Even more than that, I think it really refutes that 759 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:07,560 Speaker 11: notion of the Maga cult that we've heard so much about. 760 00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:12,160 Speaker 11: President Trump and his top advisors like Elon Musk said something, 761 00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:15,080 Speaker 11: the base didn't like it, and we voiced our opinion 762 00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:17,600 Speaker 11: on it, and now people are sitting there going, Okay, 763 00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:19,840 Speaker 11: maybe we have to course correct, Maybe we have to 764 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,360 Speaker 11: adjust here, maybe we have to change things there, because 765 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:25,520 Speaker 11: that is the Republican Party. I don't have to agree 766 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:28,239 Speaker 11: with Elon Musk on one hundred percent of things to 767 00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:30,120 Speaker 11: know that he's on the same side as me. I 768 00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:32,319 Speaker 11: don't have to agree with Vivek. I don't even have 769 00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:35,279 Speaker 11: to agree with President Trump on everything. I agree with 770 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,880 Speaker 11: the the movement of the Make America Great again idea. 771 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:42,160 Speaker 11: But if they say something that we don't like, it 772 00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:45,120 Speaker 11: shows that they actually listen to us. They actually listen 773 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:48,240 Speaker 11: to the to the crowd on X, they actually listen 774 00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:51,160 Speaker 11: to the base, the people that put them there, and 775 00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:53,439 Speaker 11: it's nice to see that they are beginning to course 776 00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:58,640 Speaker 11: correct when they have overstepped or or said something out. 777 00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:01,719 Speaker 10: Of line with what the America for Dates wants. 778 00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:05,200 Speaker 2: Kevin Smith from the Loud Majority, thank you so much 779 00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,680 Speaker 2: for joining us. And for those of you who don't know, 780 00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:09,440 Speaker 2: he had a little bit of a health scare this weekend. 781 00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:11,640 Speaker 1: He's fine, so thank God for that. Thank you so 782 00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:11,960 Speaker 1: much much. 783 00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:15,480 Speaker 2: And happy New Year, by the way, Mary, happy to you, Jake, 784 00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:19,360 Speaker 2: thank you. All right, coming up, the great David Brody 785 00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:22,959 Speaker 2: will join us. We will bring our centuries centuries worth 786 00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:26,120 Speaker 2: of perspective on former President Jimmy Carter that you simply 787 00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:28,239 Speaker 2: won't get anywhere else. Okay, we're not that old, but 788 00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:30,640 Speaker 2: you're gonna hear stuff you haven't heard elsewhere, I promise you. 789 00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:33,960 Speaker 2: On that American Sunrise Early edition will be right back. 790 00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:55,200 Speaker 1: Montalk point the end of Long Island. That's where the 791 00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:58,759 Speaker 1: show is coming from you today. Okay, now's the time. 792 00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:02,920 Speaker 2: On American Sunrise early edition when David Brody from The 793 00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:07,040 Speaker 2: Big Show joins us right now, and David, obviously, you know, 794 00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:09,760 Speaker 2: you know my first rule of journalism. You cannot ignore 795 00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:12,560 Speaker 2: the elephant in the room. And obviously, the big story 796 00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:16,120 Speaker 2: today is the passing away of former President Jimmy Carter. 797 00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:21,520 Speaker 2: And of course underline, of course we respectfully noted his passing, 798 00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:24,640 Speaker 2: certainly extend our condolences to those who knew him and 799 00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:27,560 Speaker 2: loved him and his family. But this was a public figure, 800 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,160 Speaker 2: and there's an important day. This is when the obituaries 801 00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:31,440 Speaker 2: are going to be written. This is when a lot 802 00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:34,560 Speaker 2: of the historical record will be codified for Jimmy Carter. 803 00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:36,680 Speaker 2: And so we must look at his record as a 804 00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:42,360 Speaker 2: public figure today honestly, fairly and critically. And I'm sorry, 805 00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:44,680 Speaker 2: I think that more than just being a failed president, 806 00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:47,319 Speaker 2: I think that his years after president, despite some of 807 00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:49,719 Speaker 2: his charity work, and I am a monthly donor to 808 00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:52,480 Speaker 2: Habitat for Humanity, so I have some respect for that, 809 00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:55,120 Speaker 2: but he also helped embrace terrorism. 810 00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:57,720 Speaker 1: He helped embrace the blood libels. 811 00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:00,839 Speaker 2: Against the Jewish people in Israel, calling in an apartheid state, 812 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:02,960 Speaker 2: which is just nothing could be further from the truth, 813 00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:05,319 Speaker 2: and so I'm sorry. I think that we do need 814 00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:07,360 Speaker 2: to dig into the man's record. That's what being in 815 00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:08,160 Speaker 2: public life. 816 00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:08,799 Speaker 1: Is all about. 817 00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:12,279 Speaker 12: Well, I don't disagree with anything you said there, Jake. 818 00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:14,719 Speaker 12: You know, yeah, there feels like there needs to be 819 00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:19,080 Speaker 12: a bit of a twenty four hour decorum in a way, 820 00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,919 Speaker 12: but on the twenty fifth hour, let's knock ourselves out. 821 00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:25,720 Speaker 1: But no, I think you're right things need to be said. 822 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:29,680 Speaker 12: That may be uncomfortable, especially after you know we're doing 823 00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:32,920 Speaker 12: the oh bit here, but I think look, we can 824 00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:35,880 Speaker 12: say whatever we want. Historians can say whatever they want. 825 00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:38,480 Speaker 12: But the American people had their verdict back in the 826 00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:42,319 Speaker 12: late seventies and they ushered Trump Trump listen to me, 827 00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:45,200 Speaker 12: ushered Carter out of office back then, and they made 828 00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,799 Speaker 12: the ultimate verdict. That's how history will remember Jimmy Carter 829 00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:50,920 Speaker 12: not just as a failed president, but Americans saw a 830 00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:51,560 Speaker 12: week president. 831 00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:53,840 Speaker 1: They saw a president they didn't trust. They saw a 832 00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:54,960 Speaker 1: president that just failed in. 833 00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:57,759 Speaker 12: Every level, even with the Iran hostages when they tried 834 00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,359 Speaker 12: to in essence free some of them. 835 00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:03,960 Speaker 1: We know about the botched helicopter response there as well. 836 00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:07,440 Speaker 12: And remember this is a president at the time Jake 837 00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:10,600 Speaker 12: who went talking about the oil and gas issues, and 838 00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:12,799 Speaker 12: not just inflation, but just you know, we know about 839 00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:13,680 Speaker 12: the long gas lines. 840 00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:14,359 Speaker 1: I was in those. 841 00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:16,560 Speaker 12: I was about thirteen years old. I wasn't driving, but 842 00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:20,000 Speaker 12: I was in a car, and I remember when the 843 00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:22,239 Speaker 12: oil and gas issues were such a big deal. He 844 00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,120 Speaker 12: was the one that put on a sweater, of course, 845 00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:27,759 Speaker 12: and said, listen, let's just turn down the thermostat a 846 00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:28,120 Speaker 12: little bit. 847 00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:28,640 Speaker 1: Huh. 848 00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:31,640 Speaker 12: And Americans were like, really, really, that's your answer, turned 849 00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:33,680 Speaker 12: down the thermostat. So I mean, you know, this is 850 00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:35,600 Speaker 12: the type of stuff. But there's so much more I 851 00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:38,000 Speaker 12: want to say. I will say quickly, and I'll try 852 00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:40,880 Speaker 12: to make this brief. But you can make the argument 853 00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:44,279 Speaker 12: that the religious right, which was already on an ascendancy, 854 00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:51,560 Speaker 12: you know view if you will, really took had lift off, 855 00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:54,200 Speaker 12: if you will, after Jimmy Carter. Because remember Jimmy Carter 856 00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:57,480 Speaker 12: would have to evangelical vote in the nineteen seventies when 857 00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:00,279 Speaker 12: he won in the late seventies, and then it just 858 00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:02,000 Speaker 12: cratered after that. 859 00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:04,520 Speaker 1: In nineteen eighty Reagan came along. And why was that Well. 860 00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:07,480 Speaker 12: One of the reasons was is because Jimmy Carter took 861 00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:10,640 Speaker 12: away in nineteen seventy eight, his administration took away the 862 00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:13,799 Speaker 12: tax exemption for private Christian schools. Now, I know there 863 00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:16,200 Speaker 12: was a segregation aspect to that in terms of what 864 00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:18,440 Speaker 12: they were saying at the time that many of these 865 00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:21,920 Speaker 12: Christian schools were, you know, just having white kids only, 866 00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,920 Speaker 12: and they wanted to kind of tamp down obviously and 867 00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:27,719 Speaker 12: scale back on that. The private Christian schools will see 868 00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:30,000 Speaker 12: it differently. The bottom line is is that when he 869 00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:32,880 Speaker 12: did that, when he took away the tax exemption status 870 00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:37,799 Speaker 12: for Christian schools in America, that turned many of those 871 00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:40,640 Speaker 12: religious right folks that actually voted for Carter in nineteen 872 00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:42,960 Speaker 12: seventy six, it turned him against them in nineteen eighty, 873 00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:44,440 Speaker 12: and of course Reigan came along and it was a 874 00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:45,680 Speaker 12: perfect storm, if you will. 875 00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:49,280 Speaker 1: So those are some of my recollections. Yeah, no, that's 876 00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:50,360 Speaker 1: a perfect point. You know. 877 00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:52,239 Speaker 2: One of the things you own here elsewhere is that, 878 00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:54,440 Speaker 2: you know, Jimmy Carter ran for governor and won in 879 00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:58,080 Speaker 2: nineteen seventy in Georgia, and they basically presented him as a. 880 00:43:58,080 --> 00:43:59,239 Speaker 1: Good old boy. Yeah. 881 00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:02,200 Speaker 2: I found all the campaign ads years ago that he ran. 882 00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:04,080 Speaker 2: They were scrubbed from the Internet for a while. They're 883 00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:06,439 Speaker 2: back available now on YouTube you can find them. There's 884 00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:08,840 Speaker 2: not one black person in any one of his ads. 885 00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:10,880 Speaker 2: He's talking to a bunch of good old boys in 886 00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,680 Speaker 2: all the video. And then he shocked all of Georgia 887 00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:16,600 Speaker 2: in his inaugural address saying he was going to desegregate 888 00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:16,919 Speaker 2: the state. 889 00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:17,880 Speaker 1: Now, I'm all for that. 890 00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:21,160 Speaker 2: I think that's actually his greatest achievement as a politician. 891 00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:23,799 Speaker 2: But importantly, it should also be noted that he had 892 00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:25,880 Speaker 2: to do it in a sneaky way, and so for 893 00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:28,720 Speaker 2: the rest of his career he decided to virtue signal 894 00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:30,920 Speaker 2: himself for a bunch of stuff that wasn't good. I 895 00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:32,520 Speaker 2: think he was trying to make up with the fact 896 00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:34,960 Speaker 2: that he had to be quiet about his one true achievement. 897 00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:36,839 Speaker 1: That's something other people won't talk about. 898 00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:39,680 Speaker 2: Another thing people won't talk about is that actually he 899 00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:42,120 Speaker 2: was already very unpopular the day he took the oath 900 00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:45,799 Speaker 2: of office. His polls started to crater, and had the 901 00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:48,960 Speaker 2: election been two weeks later against Jerry Ford, I really 902 00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:50,960 Speaker 2: think he would have lost because and by the time 903 00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:52,560 Speaker 2: he took the oath of all this, people already were 904 00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:54,799 Speaker 2: not liking him. So people need to remember that he 905 00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:56,960 Speaker 2: already was kind of behind the eight ball. All right, 906 00:44:57,239 --> 00:44:59,680 Speaker 2: David Brody, the big show's coming up next two hours 907 00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:01,640 Speaker 2: of him, American Sunrise. Thank you so much for joining 908 00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:04,080 Speaker 2: me for this first hour of this week. For you, 909 00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:06,279 Speaker 2: I'm Jake Novak, American Sunrise Early Edition. 910 00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:07,799 Speaker 1: We'll be back after the New Year.