Speaker 1: Look man, oh, I see you? Why why and look
Speaker 1: over there? How is that culture? Yes? Goodness ding don
Speaker 1: less cultures calling. It's sort of a fraud tense atmosphere
Speaker 1: because our guest is threatening to infiltrate the podcast in
Speaker 1: he said, quote unquote push and I'm just like very
Speaker 1: nervous because I said, if you give a mouse a cookie,
Speaker 1: he's going to want a glass of milk. That's actually
Speaker 1: rulal culture number forty eight. If you give a mouse
Speaker 1: a cookie, he's going to want a glass of milk,
Speaker 1: and more and more and more afterwards when she enough?
Speaker 1: When will it be enough? Can you just answer that question? Well,
Speaker 1: according to famous Feeball, that is written to teach us
Speaker 1: all a lesson about human nature and control and portion
Speaker 1: control and control now more than ever and now more
Speaker 1: than ever, portion control is important. I think I'm in
Speaker 1: with an amazing take. I'm in because I'm trying to
Speaker 1: just have like, what is the most comedic choice to
Speaker 1: make in terms of pushing and if you the best
Speaker 1: comedic choice is whatever choice you make and nour breaking
Speaker 1: the fourth wall and I'm gonna go ahead and speak
Speaker 1: to Canadas is actually who's winning me over this season?
Speaker 1: By breaking the fourth I think, I leave my whole
Speaker 1: fourth wall moment and don't take a second of it
Speaker 1: out amazing. When we talked about this three separate episodes,
Speaker 1: including this one, it was it gets in a word
Speaker 1: for most iconic fourth hole breaking. Well little the moment
Speaker 1: I keep talking about it is when she like she's
Speaker 1: facing Gil, she goes, what are you doing? And then
Speaker 1: she turns to the camera. We do right now. I
Speaker 1: love it and I love I love when the show
Speaker 1: decides to sort of tilt the camera one way to
Speaker 1: show another camera and then you think, Okay, we're in
Speaker 1: a different space for in a different one, and that's
Speaker 1: them saying, like, now, what we're talking about and what
Speaker 1: we're commenting on is the process of making reality television
Speaker 1: and that is best taking. So you consider all this
Speaker 1: fourth world breaking of Lost Coach, like we we we
Speaker 1: really tried to do our We tried to do our thing,
Speaker 1: our little your top a little up to a little tip.
Speaker 1: You try to embrace your traditions in your history by
Speaker 1: doing you know what you do up top. But sometimes
Speaker 1: someone comes in and really pushes in and takes the
Speaker 1: glass of the milk. That's the thing, is like what
Speaker 1: I said right before was if we give him this
Speaker 1: in and he will take a whole he will take
Speaker 1: over the podcast, which I know is what some readers
Speaker 1: really can. I tell you something. I posted the trailer
Speaker 1: for my Showtime comedy special Matt Rogers, have you heard
Speaker 1: of Christmas? And Pat Regan is very much at the
Speaker 1: top of the trailer. More comments about Pat Regan being
Speaker 1: in the trailer than the trailer itself. People will, people
Speaker 1: are gonna watch, Millions are gonna watch because of Pat Regan. Honey.
Speaker 1: All that matters is people are going to watch your right,
Speaker 1: and that's why I cast him. I'm using him just
Speaker 1: like I'm using him today to promote my special. You're
Speaker 1: supporting your supporting role. I'm so upset introduce him. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Our guest today is of course the Cost of the
Speaker 1: Sea Treatment podcast. He's a writer for Hacks and going
Speaker 1: on three seasons now, and not everyone makes it from
Speaker 1: room to room. Room culture is extremely difficult, very political,
Speaker 1: especially when you work for you know, the best in
Speaker 1: the biz, and so there's a lot of turnover. But
Speaker 1: not with our quick little Cat, Our little Cat, well,
Speaker 1: we love him so much. She's a beloved fixture on
Speaker 1: the podcast. And his absence is always felt. You know
Speaker 1: him from his upcoming projects, which included Matt Rogers, Have
Speaker 1: You Heard of Christmas? And which he has a supporting role.
Speaker 1: It's so wonderful. First of all, Mike cutting the trailer
Speaker 1: is a little whatever. But what are you talking about?
Speaker 1: Why are you dragging my trailer. I'm not dragging your trailer.
Speaker 1: I'm dragging my performance because the trailer. But then you
Speaker 1: dragged my director. So let me tell you something. When
Speaker 1: you come from your performance, when you come from your
Speaker 1: performance to anything, you drag the director. You dragged the project,
Speaker 1: You dragged the creator. So you just sat here. You
Speaker 1: sat here and played in my face and keep my
Speaker 1: fourth wall in. I need Eric where where we need Eric?
Speaker 1: On call on the ready this whole episode, because I
Speaker 1: just feel like Eric is gonna be brought in. You
Speaker 1: were studying in the trailer. You were studying in the trailer.
Speaker 1: I was most importantly studying on the trailer. December two,
Speaker 1: Pat Reagan is in Matt Rogers, Have Your Herd of Christmas?
Speaker 1: And well, the thing is like they all knew that
Speaker 1: because of course deadline announced, but didn't the announced Pat
Speaker 1: as that was a big secret. You know, I'm wondering
Speaker 1: if whatever, I'm not gonna you're not gonna drive. I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna talk about the press today. I don't have
Speaker 1: to talk about my crazy relationship with the press. Today.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna taking my relationship with the press, and please
Speaker 1: welcome to our guest. Can you talk about your relationship
Speaker 1: with the press. Can you elaborate with your relationship and
Speaker 1: be honest? Okay, well, the press never acknowledges me as
Speaker 1: a person, and then when they do, they do choose
Speaker 1: to kind of they find her little ways and we
Speaker 1: actually I can't, you know, I just want to really
Speaker 1: talk about my relationship with the press. So I can't
Speaker 1: be that person who's always talking about the relationship with
Speaker 1: the press, but mom being so ironic and like joking
Speaker 1: about it, which is what's so crazy. It's not that
Speaker 1: because so the Julio Torres that did when he was
Speaker 1: on the podcast recently that all pop stars have three eras,
Speaker 1: which is um, circus, surveillance, and Christmas. But I think
Speaker 1: a fourth one, which I don't think it's in disurveillance,
Speaker 1: is press relationship totally. Well, this is an important way.
Speaker 1: It's a subsect. I don't think so you don't think
Speaker 1: so reputation is pressed, it's not surveillance. Okay, you're right,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So what is our surveillance album?
Speaker 1: Then I think surveillance is a subset of press. So
Speaker 1: what you're doing is you're saying Julio was wrong. No,
Speaker 1: let's not. And this is press right now, this is
Speaker 1: we're in the Heart radio building. Yes, we are in
Speaker 1: this building. That's really harkening back to yesteryear. Yes, it's
Speaker 1: interesting talk about how it harkens back to yester year
Speaker 1: because we all were an agree about this when we
Speaker 1: went walked down the hallway. Well, it's just like from
Speaker 1: that time when like offices were made to have ping
Speaker 1: pong tables and like and that was kind of groundbreaking
Speaker 1: and like bright color is and like interest. Didn't you
Speaker 1: want to work at one of those places? Of course
Speaker 1: I did, and don't do. I would get on my
Speaker 1: name if someone told me I could stuck talk to
Speaker 1: work at BuzzFeed in two thousand, I'd have a gucci
Speaker 1: um the song I played when I get to my news,
Speaker 1: I could weavluu we even song. But even with nothing on,
Speaker 1: I'm made you look Duke I'm not saying the song.
Speaker 1: The second he stepped at the elevator degree and we
Speaker 1: didn't know that I didn't know the song. He looked
Speaker 1: at us a dog. Yeah, I have such relationship with
Speaker 1: music where like I will sometimes really dellop into an album,
Speaker 1: like this is my album on Delovan too. I did that,
Speaker 1: of course with Midnights. But then I was like kind
Speaker 1: of craving more so I searched for someone recommended to
Speaker 1: me um like I listen to it for a first
Speaker 1: time on a run. And sometimes when you stand a run,
Speaker 1: like you're not running for a someone around because you
Speaker 1: need to know, like going ill, you don't know what
Speaker 1: to think about, like should be thinking about my crushish
Speaker 1: i'd be thinking about like my enemy, should be thinking
Speaker 1: about like my relationship with crushes, enemies and the press.
Speaker 1: If this isn't a future star, I have no idea. Well,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm a scorpio, so enemies pressed really my major,
Speaker 1: my major relationship, and the same over here the press
Speaker 1: was talking trushers enemies on the press title about what
Speaker 1: were you talking about? Ized with the guy brandam the
Speaker 1: divide the cultural divide between October and November scorpios. What
Speaker 1: are you saying? You and I are sitting across from
Speaker 1: each other right now, right, and we're connected for life
Speaker 1: because we're Scorpios, but we're also divided such different experiences
Speaker 1: because of that divide, and there's smaller amount, but you're
Speaker 1: literally cut. So that's what I said. And then guys said, no,
Speaker 1: you're not. And he can be very argumentative. He can
Speaker 1: be very toxic and argumentative. I'm so happy, so hard
Speaker 1: to go to be beaten up every day psychologically. He's
Speaker 1: saying that it's it's pure binary. There's no such thing
Speaker 1: as an in between October and November. But I I
Speaker 1: was used to identify as a cusp Scorpio. That you're not. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And so that's where guy was coming was that place
Speaker 1: of no. So your guy both reside in the place
Speaker 1: of no. You and you come towards me from that
Speaker 1: place and that's cool, that's okay, But you're both a
Speaker 1: member scorpio. So what can I expect? And that's actually
Speaker 1: very characteristic. Yes, you know what I think it don't
Speaker 1: SOT is doing this waste up dancing and it's actually
Speaker 1: really good. Well, can I just say background on this?
Speaker 1: This is the biggest song on TikTok for gay people.
Speaker 1: And if you don't have TikTok and are not a
Speaker 1: gay person, you do not know the song. It does
Speaker 1: not exist. It is not a this is this is
Speaker 1: I'm telling you if we were to go on my
Speaker 1: TikTok right, because that's your TikTok. No, no, it is TikTok.
Speaker 1: I page. I think what happened was like TikTok has
Speaker 1: decided showing it's a real culture umber forty nine. I
Speaker 1: just say that nine right after well my my fy
Speaker 1: p is like giving that one Megan train or something,
Speaker 1: which I swear to God is not a hit. We
Speaker 1: only it's a household name song if you're gay on TikTok.
Speaker 1: And then there's a there's a dance to it, and
Speaker 1: I was even thinking this is how TikTok has infected me.
Speaker 1: I even thought about learning the dance and posting it.
Speaker 1: But then I was like, there has to be some twist.
Speaker 1: I can't just earnestly do this train. Maybe you can,
Speaker 1: but maybe you can, and maybe is that very millennial
Speaker 1: of me to be like earnest No, I think millennials
Speaker 1: are not earnest or are they no. I think millennials
Speaker 1: are like very ironic and like, you know, and so
Speaker 1: that's why I feel like we all have like, uh
Speaker 1: like a sensitivity to like watching people like expose themselves earnestly.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I would say gen Z
Speaker 1: has that too. I don't know what jen Z is.
Speaker 1: Jen Z has an anxiety. I will, but like millennials
Speaker 1: kind of came in and they're like they took anxiety
Speaker 1: and they're like, this is gonna be our thing exactly.
Speaker 1: I feel like millennials are like we're saying what our
Speaker 1: damages out loud, and like gen Z is like whatever
Speaker 1: they're doing the d we actually don't care that much
Speaker 1: because burned it down. We've actually grown up in a
Speaker 1: world where we've heard all the stuff and it's like stop.
Speaker 1: You know. I was surrounded by gen Z this weekend
Speaker 1: in Boston, and Boston I was surrounded by gen Z.
Speaker 1: No my cousins because I stayed at their house because
Speaker 1: they live in Boston, and they're my youngest cousins and
Speaker 1: they're all from eighth grade to senior because they're spread
Speaker 1: and they're three and there. And so when I saw
Speaker 1: them at a wedding like a couple months ago. I
Speaker 1: told them I saying at their house and I was like,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, I carry Amanda, Samantha Charlotte. And then
Speaker 1: the oldest one, who is a senior, looks at me
Speaker 1: blankly and they go from Sexton City, Sex and six
Speaker 1: Girls and she goes, I've never watched that and known
Speaker 1: I've known as ever watched that. Oh that was a
Speaker 1: power play and it was huge. It was cool. It's
Speaker 1: the look in the head tilt. Yeah, the head tilt.
Speaker 1: What's her show where she gets to find out what
Speaker 1: women really said? I don't know. You know, I did
Speaker 1: say the sex lives of college girls because I got
Speaker 1: news for you. Women aren't really saying that girl sex
Speaker 1: sex lives of college girls. Maybe I have to hold space.
Speaker 1: I'm going not not nervous isn't the word, But you know,
Speaker 1: I hope I deliver an amazing podcast episode. What where
Speaker 1: did that come from? I think because your readers are
Speaker 1: so kind to me that I'm like, I hope I
Speaker 1: can go there before the ceiling is high. The floor
Speaker 1: is high as well, I know, but also it's like
Speaker 1: I want to give them what they want. You are
Speaker 1: giving them what they want by even being here. I
Speaker 1: guess I'm just flustered and befuddled that this is even
Speaker 1: where this is gone because the fact that we now
Speaker 1: have to call you and take care of you a
Speaker 1: favorite thing to do with coddling. That's not what we're doing.
Speaker 1: It's not even what we're doing. No, but Pat is
Speaker 1: wearing a ups brown because guess what he's delivering. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, is that what we're calling a ups That's
Speaker 1: really good, bro, I got this in your hometown of Denver,
Speaker 1: Colorado comedy or Aurora, Colorado or Collins, Colorado. Oh that's
Speaker 1: not Colorado, some of my Wyoming or your hometown, and
Speaker 1: that's fair. Much of Montana is your home, not much
Speaker 1: of mine. What would you call Englewood your hometown of Jason, Englewood,
Speaker 1: Englewood Town Adjason. Yeah, there are exerts of Denver that
Speaker 1: I've never even seen, never breathed the air there, So
Speaker 1: in some ways verified. When will you return to Denver
Speaker 1: this year at Christmas time? Why where do we ask? Well?
Speaker 1: Because I have a show in Denver, like Taylor Swift
Speaker 1: right exactly, you're coming. Yes, you're taking after them by
Speaker 1: doing that, I'm taking after Taylor Swift, I'm following in
Speaker 1: their lead. Victor carlss. No, there's so many comedians I
Speaker 1: don't know nowadays, and then I've learned about them and
Speaker 1: I'm upset. Josh Sharpen are going to start a new
Speaker 1: live show in New York because I want children. No,
Speaker 1: it's one because I'm like, oh, that part of my
Speaker 1: brain is atrophied. I need to like eat do like
Speaker 1: a full yes, and I need to get this going
Speaker 1: again because I remember liking it even though it wasn't
Speaker 1: that good at it. I was like, let me just
Speaker 1: work the muscle again. And also just to get the
Speaker 1: kids in. Yeah, because I don't even know who they
Speaker 1: are anymore. Now. People ask me like, oh, I'm in
Speaker 1: New York, who should I who should I go see?
Speaker 1: Who should I book on my show? Who did it?
Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh, wow, the girls are not the
Speaker 1: girls anymore, you know what I mean? Now they're all
Speaker 1: scattered about. I'm still I'm like literally like a Vicky
Speaker 1: gun Wilson figures like still I'm still in the scene
Speaker 1: as like truly, like all of my contemporaries have moved
Speaker 1: on and up for it, and I'm just kind of
Speaker 1: of course, famously, Vicky gun whistles a narrative is all
Speaker 1: the people she was on the show with the beginning
Speaker 1: are now huge stars. That's her. What was like the
Speaker 1: real O g who they wanted the show to be around.
Speaker 1: The O C was it? Um oh, I would have
Speaker 1: thought it was Vicky, to be honest. And then there
Speaker 1: was another one though there was season one. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: that's gonna be high. It was well Gina Gina Key.
Speaker 1: I love her and will willingly die for her unless,
Speaker 1: like Shane Key know she had a hot sun. She
Speaker 1: had a hot and the cover thing. The Brobo producers
Speaker 1: really tried to make it seem like her son and
Speaker 1: another housewife might fuck. I mean they remember them like
Speaker 1: filming them like in Gina's grotto because obviously had a grotto,
Speaker 1: and was there a lower third that said Gina's Grotto.
Speaker 1: I don't think they were like they weren't smart enough.
Speaker 1: It wasn't like nowadays, well there will they'll be a
Speaker 1: little on third, which is like Andrew Harrington and her
Speaker 1: husband on the bottom of the site and quotes grown
Speaker 1: ass ma'am just back then didn't know how to win.
Speaker 1: They did not because they were too earnest, but I
Speaker 1: almost like that. I almost like that, do you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? Son? Fucking one of the Housewives is
Speaker 1: very like v o c as in. The show was
Speaker 1: literally giving desperate house That was what it was trying
Speaker 1: to do and to be to make you feel all right.
Speaker 1: So that's why they did that. And it was like
Speaker 1: Joe because the original Housewife had one person in the
Speaker 1: lineup was a truly twenty three year old fiance, I
Speaker 1: stay at home fiance, and that was Joe Dela ROSA
Speaker 1: gorgeous girl by any but not but not ultimately what
Speaker 1: the franchise would give us. And we'd say we were
Speaker 1: looking no, but they wanted her to be kind of
Speaker 1: an evil longer. It was very much. They came in,
Speaker 1: they put up like a corkboard, they put up you know, flity,
Speaker 1: and was Vicky sort of the Felicity Huffman. I don't
Speaker 1: know who they might have wanted Vicky to be. I
Speaker 1: think she was her own thing and that's why she succeeded.
Speaker 1: And that's what I want to say to everyone listening
Speaker 1: to the podcast. If you want us succeed, be your
Speaker 1: own thing. You have to push into your originality, right
Speaker 1: Bowen and I and right, Pat and I think that
Speaker 1: you have to really stand out as yourself, don't try
Speaker 1: to be anyone else, and to kind of say something
Speaker 1: that I invented in a phrase that I coined, Um,
Speaker 1: being yourself is your superpower. And that's a phrase that
Speaker 1: I did write down for the first time and published widely.
Speaker 1: And Okay, but for real, to really start the podcast,
Speaker 1: what superpower would you have if you could have any superpower? Um?
Speaker 1: I thought about this all the time as a child. Well,
Speaker 1: downstairs you said one thing, you wanted to have catwoman clause,
Speaker 1: So you can because we weren't popped in a glass
Speaker 1: chamber that I don't know bought my or glass chamber,
Speaker 1: and we were walking down the hallway and like, my
Speaker 1: heart has this super fun feature where when you walk
Speaker 1: down the hallway, music plays a million different radio stations. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: every time I didn't even, I didn't even. I think
Speaker 1: that's what I think of them as being radio that
Speaker 1: is that's that's ok. Yeah, So every time you walk by,
Speaker 1: if you walk one inch, actually a different kind of
Speaker 1: chuck starts playing kind of cacafany of was a really
Speaker 1: good word for it. And then it's all white. So
Speaker 1: I did say it harkened back to um when when
Speaker 1: I'm cameramber was walking through the white and a white
Speaker 1: jumps to and she looks back and you see just
Speaker 1: her face. And that was their way of getting through
Speaker 1: that portion of the heist or whatever they're doing. But
Speaker 1: and then there was a glass wall, and I remembered
Speaker 1: when I was little, so small as I just he's
Speaker 1: really going back. I was watching Batman cartoon and I
Speaker 1: was wating Batman. I remember, oh my gosh, I'm having
Speaker 1: some of my memories. Thank god, this is the place
Speaker 1: last culture, the place to dump memories. And you know,
Speaker 1: Catwoman had to steal something because that was, you know,
Speaker 1: her job, that was how she made her money. Very
Speaker 1: much a vigilant and so she put her nails up
Speaker 1: against the glass and just rotated them in a perfect circle.
Speaker 1: Came out of the glass and she reached and grabbed
Speaker 1: like a necklace or something. Yeah, and then I'm sure
Speaker 1: they didn't share this in the show, but I'm sure
Speaker 1: she would sell that neck class yeah, probably, and make
Speaker 1: her family to start some savings and you put a
Speaker 1: down payment down somewhere, you know. I just rewatched that
Speaker 1: man returns one with Catwoman, which in this then just
Speaker 1: pull this one out of my app It wouldn't be
Speaker 1: random to talk about like a different Batman series from
Speaker 1: what we've been discussed saying it wouldn't. It wouldn't have
Speaker 1: been like, how do you get there? Are talking about
Speaker 1: Batman and Robin Well, I'm really going to be here.
Speaker 1: I'm just jumping from really one Catwoman film to the
Speaker 1: other Catwoman sorry project, which is Batman. Hearns and because
Speaker 1: I don't really recognize other Catwoman's, I do love Anne
Speaker 1: and I think often and was mother for that? Yeah,
Speaker 1: she left, she was she was not a single the
Speaker 1: whole like those heels hurt and then she kicks the
Speaker 1: guy in the balls. I don't know. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: I never saw that. But I will say one thing
Speaker 1: I hate is what I call like Marvel humor, which
Speaker 1: is a yeah. And I'm someone who's deeply entrenched in
Speaker 1: the Marvel universe. Say we were, we were saying this
Speaker 1: on Stradio Lab that Marvel Humor is like the successor
Speaker 1: to like random Sauce Ship. It's Marvel Humor is scarred
Speaker 1: Joe like fighting like a bunch of guys and then
Speaker 1: like her phone rings and she hey, kind of busy
Speaker 1: right now. They literally did that in Charlie's Angels. Cameron
Speaker 1: invented that. Cameron invented that. Hey, I really like that guy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I wish had stormed into the Marvel breaking her retirement
Speaker 1: into that movie instead of the Marvel. I invented that,
Speaker 1: And suddenly the multiverse is open because Scarlett Johansson as
Speaker 1: Black Widow is fighting um Natalie A. Cameron Diaz as
Speaker 1: Charlie's Angel, and that would have been the multiverse for me.
Speaker 1: That would have been the fact multiverse. I need it.
Speaker 1: But they would never do that. They would never hundred
Speaker 1: Did you guys cry during Endgame? Yeah? I cried two
Speaker 1: times against all against my better judgment Angels. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: I was stoned with Jok and Booster. Was it the
Speaker 1: iron Man of it all? It was the funeral. It
Speaker 1: was so for me it was I remember It's also
Speaker 1: the cliff, the cliff that was That was the first
Speaker 1: one that was No, that was the end game. I
Speaker 1: believe it was dying. Yeah, it's like no, it's like
Speaker 1: halfway through, Dame us Speedy. You're right, because you're shocked
Speaker 1: when you're hanging for the movie and YPS showing no.
Speaker 1: I actually think scar j Blackwadow dying was no, it wasn't.
Speaker 1: We cannot as three men of gay statue, Yeah we can't.
Speaker 1: We can't men of gay stature, as in, gayness is
Speaker 1: a stuff. The reason why I think we can talk
Speaker 1: about it is because we have to get to the
Speaker 1: bottom of this. Because I remember when I saw Endgame
Speaker 1: in the theaters. I'm sitting there with Greta and Abe,
Speaker 1: and I remember Scarlett Johansson as Black Widow spoiler Riller
Speaker 1: dies like literally less than halfway through the movie, and
Speaker 1: I turned to Greta and I was like, why the
Speaker 1: funk am I here to watch these to watch these
Speaker 1: guys do the rest of this? Like come on, I'm
Speaker 1: getting I'm getting her mixed up with Green Lady. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: oh mom, Yeah, well she's about to come back in
Speaker 1: the way of water. I can for avatar to the
Speaker 1: way of what the last thing and this is gay
Speaker 1: leaning though it does, I did not want to come
Speaker 1: in and talk about Dave Wasson and I've seen enough
Speaker 1: because give this gay leaning podcast is officially gay um,
Speaker 1: you know, because they had that moment that was amazing
Speaker 1: for women in the final fight sequence when all the
Speaker 1: women come together and just happened to be on the
Speaker 1: same girls. They literally should have play that. And then
Speaker 1: scar Joe, who was such a woman of these films,
Speaker 1: like doesn't get to be in the Crazy Ladies shot.
Speaker 1: You know, I know that sucked. There's a scarlet shaped
Speaker 1: hole and that absolutely which is a gorgeous hole. I
Speaker 1: might say, people, Batman, you're talking Aboatman returns, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: was talking about what were you going to say? Oh,
Speaker 1: I think I was going to say. I think I
Speaker 1: was going to say that movie was so she was
Speaker 1: so mother for that that one but one has but
Speaker 1: one has really become obsessed with the phrase so mother
Speaker 1: So funny. Where did you get that? Did you get
Speaker 1: it from the culture? I know it's so funny to
Speaker 1: repurpose that. Oh, it definitely is. Sarah Sherman and I
Speaker 1: want to write a step over all baby Birds and
Speaker 1: we're like, wait, what is like like just like like
Speaker 1: the mother bird, like vomiting up like a worm for us,
Speaker 1: and like you you're not mother for that? That seems
Speaker 1: like it has clear three beats. Absolutely it's gonna carry that.
Speaker 1: The out is so perfect. We're like you, like our
Speaker 1: house is made of sticks and ship. We're going in
Speaker 1: the week. So at the political institution that is Saturday
Speaker 1: Night Live, is it's sort of like dancing in the
Speaker 1: street now that the midterms are over and it's gone
Speaker 1: fell well for the dames. Yeah, where everyone is sucking
Speaker 1: and fucking. Yeah. I haven't sucked. Actually haven't either. Yeah
Speaker 1: that's not true. I haven't felt something while I've had. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't like it. And I'm actually on record on
Speaker 1: this podcast as saying sometimes I'll wake up by myself
Speaker 1: and I don't know what happens. I like blink my
Speaker 1: eyes awake in the middle of the night, and I'll
Speaker 1: have like a craving to suck cock. Yeah, and I'll
Speaker 1: turn to my left and positive there's someone else there,
Speaker 1: and then there's not, and I'll be like, magic, that's
Speaker 1: my dreams saying to me. And then I go to
Speaker 1: beout it and I wake up and I'm like, I
Speaker 1: forget it. But I but then when it's actually happening
Speaker 1: and I actually have the opportunity and it's and it's
Speaker 1: literally actually in process, I'm like, well, I'd rather die
Speaker 1: than do this for one more second. Yeah, I know,
Speaker 1: that's so funny recently, I said, I said, I don't
Speaker 1: know if I'm gay. I know you are. It's like
Speaker 1: that David Sadaris thing that he did on sixty Minutes.
Speaker 1: I didn't see oh he oh. People were angry because
Speaker 1: he was like, I liked, I want to say it
Speaker 1: this terrible David Donald duck. He was like, I want
Speaker 1: to say, I'm here to announce that I'm straight, because
Speaker 1: I'm not, like I hate. He basically was like, I
Speaker 1: hate the term queer. It was one of those things
Speaker 1: sometimes I'm like, why do people care about anything? Well,
Speaker 1: because remember the queer was like only used as an insult,
Speaker 1: and also it's like it's like a trigger even when
Speaker 1: it first became the thing just too umbrella term queer
Speaker 1: for the lgbt Q plus community. I was kind of like, oh,
Speaker 1: that doesn't sit right in my spirit because it was
Speaker 1: such a negative thing all my life. And then I
Speaker 1: feel like now I'm over at whatever. But I can
Speaker 1: understand someone of David's Aris this generation, being like, oh,
Speaker 1: I don't know about queener, right, Yeah, yeah, well I
Speaker 1: will say that. I actually recently was talking with lesbian,
Speaker 1: older lesbian, and this lesbian was mother, and she said
Speaker 1: that whenever she hears it, because that was touch like
Speaker 1: you would It was literally, let's come up with a
Speaker 1: new word. Oh my god, was the energy? Should it
Speaker 1: just be like three dollar bill like she is so
Speaker 1: three dollar bill? Yeah? Yeah, maybe three dollar bill feels
Speaker 1: exclusive to gay addicts? Why because yeah, not even addict? No,
Speaker 1: I do you think it would be mother to um
Speaker 1: have a show at three dollar bill? Like I was
Speaker 1: looking at the space three dollar I felt like, because
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about creating a new show with a new concept.
Speaker 1: He just desided that, like right before, right after you
Speaker 1: just said you and Josh you and met the shows.
Speaker 1: My friend says he's starting a new live show, and
Speaker 1: then imagine my position. That puts me end where then
Speaker 1: my other friend says he's starting right after. That's not
Speaker 1: a cool position to be in. And whose side do
Speaker 1: you want? I need to This is not a cool
Speaker 1: position for him. This is a do you guys watch
Speaker 1: you love is blind? No? I hear it's so wild? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean what, it's just truly more of the same.
Speaker 1: It's just truly more of the same in a good way.
Speaker 1: But at one point when there are girl and a
Speaker 1: guy or in a fight and she says like no, bro,
Speaker 1: don't do that or something like that. It's like it's
Speaker 1: every straight girl's dream. It's like to be in a
Speaker 1: relationship with a guy and then in a fight and
Speaker 1: call him bro because it's like I'm actually a cool
Speaker 1: girl and like whatever, it's so tristated culture, bro, Like
Speaker 1: you can't do that, bro, like a straight girl just
Speaker 1: like weaponizing the word in that way. It's like, I know,
Speaker 1: but it is interesting. You know, Love is Blind is
Speaker 1: actually should win a Pulitzer Prize for like their exploration
Speaker 1: of a certain type of straight woman, because it really
Speaker 1: is interesting. Um, just this kind of woman who's going
Speaker 1: to go in those pods tomind a husband is like
Speaker 1: it's a different thing from the boutch law. It's different
Speaker 1: because the bachelor, at least at this point, is like
Speaker 1: more it's a different kind of woman. It's a woman
Speaker 1: who is more invested in a certain kind of Instagram
Speaker 1: and love is Wine. People want Instagram followers too, don't
Speaker 1: get me wrong, but they also to me seem almost
Speaker 1: even more genuinely interested in finding a version of love
Speaker 1: and being a certain kind of straight girl. There. I
Speaker 1: don't know, actually I likely tracked all this because I
Speaker 1: can't quite articulate off to think more. I think this
Speaker 1: every now and then, Like I thought that with what show?
Speaker 1: Is that the spinoff show? Oh? I didn't. I didn't
Speaker 1: want to. That's interesting because you're meeting the couples from
Speaker 1: episode one, Yeah, and you already see like the way
Speaker 1: that they operates. It's interesting. I have to say, Vanessa
Speaker 1: La really upsets me on the show. It's because she
Speaker 1: gets very involved. Um, I just don't like her performance races.
Speaker 1: But I but you know, that's okay to say. But
Speaker 1: you know who is wonderful who I'm obsessed with and
Speaker 1: I keep wanting to run into her in the building
Speaker 1: is Alex Wa Have you watched them all? And not yet?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, my cousins, the girls we made to watch.
Speaker 1: Are you just in Boston with with cousins? Those my
Speaker 1: younger cousins. Don't know about them all. You couldn't know
Speaker 1: about my I know, I know, I will watch them all.
Speaker 1: I just keep being in the place where I'm like not,
Speaker 1: you know, you have sometimes to take on more people
Speaker 1: into your life, like you need to be in a
Speaker 1: certain place where you're ready to invest, of course, And
Speaker 1: I think I just haven't been ready to invest in
Speaker 1: the people on the mall for some reason. I don't
Speaker 1: know why. I mean, I'm gonna watch this. Joel says
Speaker 1: it's unbelievable. It really is. I will watch it. I will.
Speaker 1: It's one of those things. And I don't think this
Speaker 1: happens rarely, but like me, Bowen and Joel are all enthusiastic.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna watch it. And I think also to redirect
Speaker 1: and answer your question, if you wanted to meet Alex Wagner,
Speaker 1: I think all you have to do is make a
Speaker 1: quick call. I don't want to like arrange anything. I
Speaker 1: just want to run into and just wait. We should
Speaker 1: be like, hey, is it cool if if Bowen says
Speaker 1: hi to Alex Wagner, She's like, okay, cool meet on
Speaker 1: this floor and then she arrives and it's a podcast
Speaker 1: set up with us and then and that would be
Speaker 1: a mother and Alex Wagner would actually be interesting to have.
Speaker 1: She would be amazing to have on the She would
Speaker 1: be amazing. That's like when I did um a sketchphrase
Speaker 1: A there was like in the room next to me,
Speaker 1: but it was like rooms that were just curtains, you know,
Speaker 1: And I saw the curtain room. Next to me was
Speaker 1: lu andellus up. So I've never met and so I
Speaker 1: was like, I do want to meet her, and so
Speaker 1: I told like the pret was like I want to, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you you told us the story of story, the story
Speaker 1: week before we ever even were interested in house. I
Speaker 1: know you said the story of Luke. You you've done
Speaker 1: us an important kindness. Thank you and I'm serious, my god,
Speaker 1: he mean. And then I felt like we got you're
Speaker 1: pissing me off. Okay, we'll keep going. One second way
Speaker 1: from getting up, taking off my mic and leaving. Did
Speaker 1: you learn that was she diva whinning? You met her? Um?
Speaker 1: It was funny and I will I hope it's okay
Speaker 1: to say this is like was my experience of Blue.
Speaker 1: So first of all, you know, it's a big kind
Speaker 1: of warehouse space, and we all knew Lou. We all
Speaker 1: meaning me, knew that Lou was coming at some point
Speaker 1: and she was shooting afterwards, and so it was kind
Speaker 1: of like a quiet onset moment. It was like they're
Speaker 1: shooting something and then all of a sudden you heard
Speaker 1: literally as the horse was walking in like clop clop,
Speaker 1: and it was Lou and walking in with a puffer
Speaker 1: holographic jacket on and like a news boy cap and
Speaker 1: address under and she was walking in with her team
Speaker 1: in the loudest shoes ever in it like you know
Speaker 1: how it's like like it's the same flour as as
Speaker 1: like a costco, you know what I mean, and her
Speaker 1: shoes and like it was a big space. It took
Speaker 1: her so long to cross the space that they had
Speaker 1: to kind of like stop shooting, I feel all and
Speaker 1: then whatever they go back on, they started shooting again.
Speaker 1: I'm sitting next to dear friend of the pod deer castmate,
Speaker 1: and have you heard of Christmas? Joe Firestone? And we
Speaker 1: hear another clop all of a sudden again for another
Speaker 1: like seven minutes, it's lou She's like put herself down
Speaker 1: and she's coming to look at Crafty and she's like
Speaker 1: what they happened? And she kind of like Perus's Crafty
Speaker 1: And then it goes back. Anyways, it was just like
Speaker 1: you got to stop walking so far in those shoes.
Speaker 1: And then afterwards I waited around specifically, and then finally,
Speaker 1: like one of the producers, but like Lewin, this is Pat,
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, she looked up you know when
Speaker 1: you like all of a sudden have to say something.
Speaker 1: You're like, oh, I actually have nothing. That just happening
Speaker 1: with Kathy Hilton. Oh my god, So what did you say?
Speaker 1: I said, I'm a huge fan. Yeah, what I said?
Speaker 1: I just wanted to say a team Kathy. It was
Speaker 1: the worst. You know, one time I was at I
Speaker 1: have to say, I think it was the contended Elton
Speaker 1: John oscar party because it was in like two thousand eight,
Speaker 1: Well on Beverly Hills was litigated. I think I was
Speaker 1: at that one because you know, Jordan's firstman was there
Speaker 1: and he had worked with Lisa Wrenna and I don't
Speaker 1: even think he was a Housewives fan, but he knew
Speaker 1: I was, and he was like, I'm gonna go to
Speaker 1: Lisa Wrenna. Do you want to come? And I went over.
Speaker 1: It was similar or like she obviously had things to
Speaker 1: say with Jordan, but I didn't have really anything to say.
Speaker 1: But you know, when you do just want them to remember,
Speaker 1: you say something like so random that like you'll have
Speaker 1: to remember it till the day she dies, like say,
Speaker 1: truly a random collection of words that's always be like
Speaker 1: that was so weird that person did that like in
Speaker 1: um everything all the time at once or whatever, I
Speaker 1: would do something really random like that that everything all
Speaker 1: the time. I want doing everything all the time. I
Speaker 1: want something random special powers. I was like wanting to
Speaker 1: do something like that. So she would always be like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, that person like that said that crazy thing,
Speaker 1: and now I have hot dog fingers. Yeah, like you,
Speaker 1: Matt seems to quit that humor with Marvel humor. Perhaps
Speaker 1: I think this is the best humor. You're confusing that
Speaker 1: with the best humor. This coffee is doing bad things
Speaker 1: to me. I feel like I'm ruining me. Know, I'm
Speaker 1: literally my god, the way that you should have been.
Speaker 1: No kidding, Wait what did you what did you say?
Speaker 1: What did you say? So? I just was like, Hi,
Speaker 1: First of all, you don't like a woman wears glasses
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden they feel too big for
Speaker 1: her face or something for sure? That yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 1: know I only think about women, ever, So that is
Speaker 1: what I if a man had too big of glasses
Speaker 1: would be like, Okay, groundbreaking. You didn't know how to
Speaker 1: dress yourself and how to put anything on your face.
Speaker 1: You accessorize badly, novel, Wow, go straight to the news. Yeah,
Speaker 1: go straight to the cress. Oh my god. Anyways, so
Speaker 1: I just kind of like I said that. Then we
Speaker 1: kind of stood in silence. I didn't know what to say.
Speaker 1: I just kind of stood there, and then I was like,
Speaker 1: why better be going? And she was like, okay, Bye.
Speaker 1: It's just so hard because you want to meet these
Speaker 1: people and see them, but then like it's like, what
Speaker 1: do you talk about? You know? You know what, the
Speaker 1: three of us don't have the common been on Z way,
Speaker 1: been on Z Way, not been on, pointing to myself,
Speaker 1: you've been on, you've both been on early. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: crazy that we actually helped build her empire, and it
Speaker 1: feels like I don't get the invitation even though I'm
Speaker 1: her network sister. That sorry, just feels shady to me.
Speaker 1: Angel has also been on. Yeah, it feels like a
Speaker 1: complete rage. Yeah, you're being erased every every day period.
Speaker 1: But some day soon I have an idea. I asked
Speaker 1: the universe for it. I literally begged the universe. I
Speaker 1: begged the universe every day. Um watch when I go
Speaker 1: on and she like absolutely destroys my character, and I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: I shouldn't have begged for this one. No, No, that's not.
Speaker 1: I always say when I've gone on in her in
Speaker 1: her real it's always just in a sketch capacity where
Speaker 1: you've never been interrogated. Yeah, I've been interrogted in the
Speaker 1: way that Bowen has. But maybe one day. Now, what
Speaker 1: do we think about? What you're gonna say? What was
Speaker 1: the culture that man? You said? Do you have a
Speaker 1: new answer? Um? What have I said? What are you
Speaker 1: going to say? What do we think about white lotus?
Speaker 1: If you know me, I I white lotus. I always
Speaker 1: have this relationship with the word. I'm always like, okay,
Speaker 1: I'll watch it. I'm like, wait, what Like, I'm just
Speaker 1: get so confused. Sometimes I think it's a wonderful show.
Speaker 1: I celebrate confused about it. Okay, I'll always watch it
Speaker 1: like a little bit after everyone else, like always both
Speaker 1: seasons and um, have you watched this season yet? I
Speaker 1: have watched this season. I'm up today with this. Except
Speaker 1: for the final timinants of the most recent episode, Oh
Speaker 1: we're there there, Yeah, we're like, you know, who's mother? Who?
Speaker 1: Also the they're being mother? And then also who's that
Speaker 1: he is? The hot girl who's like yeah, so she
Speaker 1: is killing the performance? I am telling you, how was
Speaker 1: she at first of all, saying with mattetted that they
Speaker 1: didn't know her name. I'll give you the back story.
Speaker 1: So several years ago I went to a Betty Who
Speaker 1: concert at the Fonda with Jared. I remember this concert, yes,
Speaker 1: because this ultimately was the concert where Jared and I
Speaker 1: first hooked up. So we had been like seeing each
Speaker 1: other as friends and then all of a sudden it
Speaker 1: kind of dawned on us, like, oh, I think this
Speaker 1: might actually be more than friends. And so I was
Speaker 1: with Jared and a bunch of the bold type girls
Speaker 1: were there was bull type. She was on the bull.
Speaker 1: She was on the bull tide because so she has
Speaker 1: this like legion of fans of people that were obsessed
Speaker 1: with the bulld type and oh wait, wait, who are
Speaker 1: we talking about? Megan Fayhey? But which one is she?
Speaker 1: And my oldest and the lodest. She is Aubrey Plaza
Speaker 1: is like the girl that so she plays dafnause second.
Speaker 1: I worried when you started getting bull type with it.
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't think she would be on
Speaker 1: board type because like buld type is all like night.
Speaker 1: This is my impression, this is what I think type,
Speaker 1: having never seen it. It's like they're in like um
Speaker 1: young person office, like the friend person office like this,
Speaker 1: and they're like sitting like this. I'm kind of spreading
Speaker 1: my arms like on the table. And then like why
Speaker 1: Markton is like, are killing at this quarter? You're getting
Speaker 1: at that promotion and she said, guess what You're going
Speaker 1: to rocket on your day tonight? Girl? Yeah, and then
Speaker 1: all right, cheers to cheers to getting what we want. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's like the quote opened. I think. I think in
Speaker 1: a world where like AI eventually takes all our jobs
Speaker 1: as writers and starts writing episodes, the AI would write
Speaker 1: that as an episode of time like, but people truly
Speaker 1: fucking love that, and so I don't mean to be
Speaker 1: anything but lovely, I meanly so. So we actually also
Speaker 1: met those girls at Vulture Fast when we were doing
Speaker 1: the interview, so we've actually interacted with them several times.
Speaker 1: But but Megan was at the Petty Who concert and
Speaker 1: I had met her and she was very cool. So
Speaker 1: to come to find out years later, I'm putting together
Speaker 1: my Vulture fres show for Have You Heard of Christmas?
Speaker 1: And I saw that Megan was doing like a white
Speaker 1: Lotus panel earlier in the day, and I knew that
Speaker 1: she was like an absolutely incredible singer because Jared had
Speaker 1: sent me videos of her singing. So I had also
Speaker 1: booked Eddie, who's separately. Betty text me and says, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna come with Megan. She's actually one of my besties.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, that's so funny. So
Speaker 1: then Megan comes to the sound check and she's the nicest,
Speaker 1: loveliest runs through her stuff. She's got like a stunning voice,
Speaker 1: and then we ended up doing sort of like a
Speaker 1: duet o Holy Night. And I guess some people on
Speaker 1: the internet like didn't know she could sing like that
Speaker 1: because so now like that clip of her like slaying
Speaker 1: down Holy Night, it's sort of like popping off. And
Speaker 1: I have to say I told her, I was like,
Speaker 1: you are kicking my ass on White Lotus and she
Speaker 1: was like, just wait, it gets so goofy and crazy
Speaker 1: and like it gets so good, and I was like,
Speaker 1: it's just cool. Nice to meet someone who's like really
Speaker 1: super talented and nice and having adore her. I didn't.
Speaker 1: I walked into White Lois having no idea who anyone
Speaker 1: was this season. This cast wasn't like stars. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: I haven't that's that's why they're not stars. But I
Speaker 1: mean they're not household names like they felt like the
Speaker 1: first yeah yeah, yeah yeah. And the guy from Girls
Speaker 1: probably is the most famous person on episodes Jennifer cool. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Let me think. We watched the first episode, we saw
Speaker 1: Christopher from Sopranos get there with his son or whatever,
Speaker 1: and then the next scene his sums like at the
Speaker 1: pool and he meets like the younger girl at the assistant.
Speaker 1: I said, that would be cool if he was like
Speaker 1: my dad was on the Sopranos. In the second scene
Speaker 1: we see that he's playing himself. It's actually Michael imperially Aristo.
Speaker 1: I love that. So I have this watch it a
Speaker 1: little bit after everyone else, and it's a show that
Speaker 1: gets talked about and gets like lifted up and praised,
Speaker 1: which I agree with and um, but then I always
Speaker 1: I'm like, wait, has it takes me a second to
Speaker 1: get into it? Every year? Every both years. I remember
Speaker 1: when I watched. I watched the first scene with my
Speaker 1: fee but I was like, this is not a conversation
Speaker 1: that humans would have where it's like, hey, are you
Speaker 1: guys just getting her from your vacation? After all, I'm
Speaker 1: just leaving mine? Are you having friends so far? Anyways,
Speaker 1: it's a crazy resort. Anything you're gonna die, they're gonna
Speaker 1: have to drag you out of here. Yeah, and say,
Speaker 1: well I have to I have to run. Since my vacation,
Speaker 1: I was but one final swim and then I literally
Speaker 1: thought when that was happening, I was like, oh, was
Speaker 1: she going to get in by a shark or something
Speaker 1: like what's happening to mama? And then when she bumped
Speaker 1: into that body, and when she bumped into that body
Speaker 1: in the sea, yeah, well I was like, this is
Speaker 1: the best case scenario. It's like because she's actually fine. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well she's traumatized for life. Okay for mere number seven hundred,
Speaker 1: number seven twelve. If you bump into a body, you're
Speaker 1: ultimately fine. But you were telling me like the performance
Speaker 1: that it was so amazing, like when she like, it's
Speaker 1: so totally you know, it was just very like what
Speaker 1: that would be like, you know what I mean. I
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, because probably you read that and you
Speaker 1: think it's giving like a body, But there was like
Speaker 1: this like mixture of emotions and processing that she was doing,
Speaker 1: which I was like, come on, talent was actually mother
Speaker 1: for this is Valentina. Is that the hotel? Man? My god,
Speaker 1: she is giving everything towards me, everything towards me, And
Speaker 1: I do think in this most recent episode, it's like
Speaker 1: one of her subordinates goes up to her and it's like,
Speaker 1: you're amazing. I know. Is this repeat of what they
Speaker 1: did last it's interesting with Yeah, maybe if it is,
Speaker 1: I won't actually care. I wouldn't mind it. I think
Speaker 1: all they're trying to get out with that is that
Speaker 1: she's really lonely and underappreciate it. And I think that
Speaker 1: she's probably stressed out a lot of the time. So
Speaker 1: when this person comes up to her and gives her
Speaker 1: a genuine complement, it's like, okay, let me find the words.
Speaker 1: That is like an affirmation of YouTube. Okay. And that
Speaker 1: was weird because then they show her eating her lunch
Speaker 1: with the cast. But I was just gonna say I
Speaker 1: loved that little scene. Kittens. Yeah, it's not the it's
Speaker 1: not in the final town and eating her lunch out
Speaker 1: of her type of ware, like in the street alone
Speaker 1: and she's feeding these two little kittens and it's like something.
Speaker 1: So it's kind of lovely too, because it's like she's
Speaker 1: doing like a like a nice Benevo the thing for
Speaker 1: the cats, but like she's so short with everyone else
Speaker 1: in her life because you can tell this is a
Speaker 1: person that's just like I'm sucking done with human beings
Speaker 1: because I have to deal with the worst subset of humanity,
Speaker 1: which is the worst white people from America who have
Speaker 1: all this money to come here and like have like
Speaker 1: a fucking experience here. And it's just so that's kind
Speaker 1: of like I gesk the thesis of what the whole
Speaker 1: show is for me. Yes, I agree. This season, I
Speaker 1: feel like the thesis is like I don't know if
Speaker 1: I'll be able articulated, but I do think there's this
Speaker 1: theme of like just people like of different depths trying
Speaker 1: to connect with each other and being unsure. Like everyone's
Speaker 1: like like reaching in the dark trying to connect with
Speaker 1: everyone else, and no one really is understanding anyone else's
Speaker 1: internal world, and it's very difficult to like connect with
Speaker 1: someone or something. Yeah, what I like about it is
Speaker 1: it's truly about like almost like self control when it
Speaker 1: comes to like carnal desire in terms of like what
Speaker 1: is and is not expected or if it's expected or accepted,
Speaker 1: Like why is that, and I feel like there's this
Speaker 1: thing that happens on occasion with people, which is this
Speaker 1: is another reason why I like white lotus is because
Speaker 1: when you were put in a situation where you're like, okay,
Speaker 1: it's time to relax, that's where your mind goes to
Speaker 1: sort of crazy places, don't you think, Like sometimes when
Speaker 1: I'm on vacation, it's hard to let your defenses drop
Speaker 1: away and just like sit in a chair and enjoy
Speaker 1: the sun, because then you're alone with your thoughts, and like,
Speaker 1: crazy things happen, especially when you're with people that are
Speaker 1: close to you, Like I feel like tensions have risen
Speaker 1: a couple of times when we've been on vacations together. Yes,
Speaker 1: my guys, go ahead and get into that. We had
Speaker 1: an argument in spring. Yeah, what was the argument? I
Speaker 1: remember when we were at dinner and um, yes, that
Speaker 1: was the one had told me one time that I
Speaker 1: should examine that about something that I thought, Oh you
Speaker 1: know what it was. I was still following. I was
Speaker 1: following someone I shouldn't have been following on Instagram. And
Speaker 1: I said that, and you said, well, you should examine that,
Speaker 1: And at that time I didn't call it out, although
Speaker 1: I felt it was condescending. So then we were at
Speaker 1: dinner months later and Bowen said something and I was like, well,
Speaker 1: maybe you should examine that down and was like, why
Speaker 1: did you say that. She's like, it's about it. Did
Speaker 1: you know about the thing? I don't know. If I
Speaker 1: recognized it as a callback, I think I would recognize that.
Speaker 1: I think it was just when it's someone like your
Speaker 1: best friend, because in Mexico City suity and I kind
Speaker 1: of had oh, I remember that was not And but
Speaker 1: I feel like it's just an everywhere you go there
Speaker 1: you are a kind of thing. And that's what the
Speaker 1: show is about. It's tiny, little little micro things that
Speaker 1: then when you have the space to room it in
Speaker 1: on them, things come out. So I feel like, especially
Speaker 1: with like Aubrey Plaza's character and her let's just say
Speaker 1: it absolute smoke show. The name is um Will Sharp.
Speaker 1: They clearly think they have this great relationship because they communicate,
Speaker 1: but then there's like no chemistry between them actually, and
Speaker 1: so that now that's coming to a head. You can
Speaker 1: see in the final episode of this of this episode
Speaker 1: which you probably were not, she's like on the phone
Speaker 1: trying to call him, and she's realizing he's not picking
Speaker 1: up and she's in her head because she's like on
Speaker 1: an edible or whatever, and she's like sitting alone and
Speaker 1: being like, maybe this is where I start to realize
Speaker 1: my relationship is actually not what I thought it was
Speaker 1: because we're not fucking and now he's not answering my call.
Speaker 1: And the last thing I had was that we communicated
Speaker 1: about everything. Yes, yes, and has a great little moment
Speaker 1: when she's on her edible and she just like goes,
Speaker 1: you'll you'll, you'll be obsessed. You know, you could say I,
Speaker 1: I don't say it because I want to know which
Speaker 1: part you're talking about where she was just where um
Speaker 1: Aubrey's like do you think, oh yeah, maybe once that
Speaker 1: I know about, And then she was like but I'm
Speaker 1: not a victim because like how do you handle that?
Speaker 1: And all. Yeah. I really liked her the turn they
Speaker 1: took with her character, and I loved it because that's
Speaker 1: the only thing I'm waiting for with some of the characters,
Speaker 1: like especially her husband, THEO James, the guy he plays him.
Speaker 1: I'm just waiting for that character to become a little
Speaker 1: a bit more complicated than it is right now, because
Speaker 1: like what I loved about Megan Fayey's character was for me,
Speaker 1: the moment of the episode was that monologue she has
Speaker 1: about the elephants. Yeah, when she says, like, I would
Speaker 1: never want to be a man. It's so lonely and
Speaker 1: they really think they're doing something important in the world,
Speaker 1: but really all they're doing is just walking it alone.
Speaker 1: And then it cuts to them on the jet skis, which,
Speaker 1: by the way, that sequence was that Comedy Budget loved it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Comedy Budget loved that. Mike White, I love I. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, he's might. Of all this River seasons, there's
Speaker 1: two that I've never seen in his as well. Wait, Pat,
Speaker 1: that's one of the best seasons that everyone says, I
Speaker 1: just got so tired of it during that time, the
Speaker 1: late thirties. You haven't seen David vers Goliath. No, And
Speaker 1: then like what happened was then I knew, Oh, it's
Speaker 1: so good and it's so fun to watch him on it.
Speaker 1: But what happened was now I know who because of
Speaker 1: winters at war and then also which I can still
Speaker 1: enjoy season when I know who won, but I also
Speaker 1: know like what place Mike gets and I know what
Speaker 1: I know what places the two girls who appeared in Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know you have to watch it because it's actually
Speaker 1: one of the funniest I've been episode going off on
Speaker 1: Plus can be so dangerous because y'all st that's about
Speaker 1: so dangerous because you'll find the most random master reality
Speaker 1: so that they have like the back seasons. Anyways, they
Speaker 1: have nine seasons available of Big Brother Canada, which is
Speaker 1: like so good. It's better than us, and it's like
Speaker 1: it's just in the Nationals always right, and it's also
Speaker 1: just like it reminds me of older US. First of all,
Speaker 1: Survivor Australia the peak of television watched you've seen this
Speaker 1: season with Pia. He is my favorite, is the best
Speaker 1: contest of all. I love her. I also love her girl.
Speaker 1: I call her as you are. You should name her
Speaker 1: actress Peter because that's what I In that season of
Speaker 1: Australian Survivor, it was like people that are famous in
Speaker 1: our country versus people that are not, and so I
Speaker 1: guess was famous in their country and basically she was
Speaker 1: actress Pia and they showed clips of her from her
Speaker 1: famous acting roles only in Australia and then basically she
Speaker 1: used her acting throughout the final tribal. She had to
Speaker 1: convinced she has been using her acting. Yeah, she was like,
Speaker 1: the way I used my acting was like this, And
Speaker 1: then you saw don all over their faces that oh
Speaker 1: my god, she's been using her acting this whole time.
Speaker 1: She said, I've outwitted, outplied amazing Australia. It was. I
Speaker 1: was actually so surprised, asked, I'll do crazy ship. I'll
Speaker 1: try of talking like a British accent. It will come
Speaker 1: out like lawless, no bad, except for actually, Land hasn't
Speaker 1: really helped lebon Dukas broke my brain to the point
Speaker 1: where now I and almost every sentence to be past.
Speaker 1: My favorite conversation of her own is this really consequential?
Speaker 1: One this most recent season between Tasha and Billy at
Speaker 1: Coosa More, where Billy said to Tasha Billy's house, um
Speaker 1: so Billy said to Tasha, um, I like you. You're
Speaker 1: quite mature and she said, no, I'm not, and he said,
Speaker 1: yes you are, and she said, I am to be
Speaker 1: pad made you change your mind if you are, I
Speaker 1: am to be fair. They end a lot of sentences
Speaker 1: to be fair, just that one. No, no, they lend
Speaker 1: they're always almost everything they say is to be fat. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's quite hot. To be bad, he's quite fit. To
Speaker 1: be fair. It's important to be fair. It's more to
Speaker 1: be there. You have to be fairer. When was the
Speaker 1: time you can own up to being unfair? That's really
Speaker 1: good fair. Yeah, that's really good. I can note up
Speaker 1: to a lot of times that you and I have
Speaker 1: had conflict. Matt and I. You're being unfair. I didn't.
Speaker 1: I wasn't pushing you in the no, no, no, But
Speaker 1: I'm considering, and I think sometimes I've been fair to you.
Speaker 1: You're unfair to the ones you love. Yeah, that's because
Speaker 1: they're a safe place. That's because you know they're not
Speaker 1: going well. You know what's interesting When you got to
Speaker 1: talking about fighting on vacation, I was like, I had
Speaker 1: this moment where I was thinking, like, I don't know
Speaker 1: that I have like vacation fight. No, I don't know
Speaker 1: how to have vacation fights. But I don't know that
Speaker 1: sometimes if I have like friends close enough to have
Speaker 1: real fights with, you know what I mean? You also
Speaker 1: have been yes, but you have also been in aship. Yes,
Speaker 1: that is true. And when you guys think about your
Speaker 1: vacations together, No, but that to me is different, like
Speaker 1: traveling with someone reveals a lot. I'll say that yes, no, no,
Speaker 1: I mean, but I'm more so mean, just like familial friendships.
Speaker 1: Oh isn't it funny? Okay? So then at the end
Speaker 1: of the Potomac episode last night, you find out they're
Speaker 1: going to Miami. Yes, they literally go to Miami, and
Speaker 1: it's honestly, they're in Miami. They're in Miami. Yes. Well,
Speaker 1: I was saying, like, it was funny that we were
Speaker 1: gathering today and I was wondering if because you would
Speaker 1: have come and you would have stormed in the Norse today,
Speaker 1: you would have walked down that i Heeart Hallway. The
Speaker 1: radio would have been playing a million different stations because
Speaker 1: of the frequency you were emanating, and you would have
Speaker 1: been like, can you believe they went to Miami on
Speaker 1: Potomac just like we're doing. Are y'all, what do you
Speaker 1: think about Mia? I'm sure you've covered that. I mean
Speaker 1: to laugh. I laugh every moment she's on screen, but
Speaker 1: not like I do not like her as a person.
Speaker 1: I think that she is chaotic and maybe even evil.
Speaker 1: But I'm laughing every second she's on screen. Me and
Speaker 1: Angela were laughing very hard last night because we were
Speaker 1: watching and they were litigating if she was being attention
Speaker 1: seeky with her medical health and so and then like
Speaker 1: they kept to her confessional and her radical health, and
Speaker 1: they got to her in a confessional in this like
Speaker 1: you know all pink number that like, and the way
Speaker 1: she was talking, she was like it was just so
Speaker 1: presentation and it was it was as though she was
Speaker 1: saying like the same tone people use. Went over a
Speaker 1: hossife finds out she's going to be on Chicago on Broadway,
Speaker 1: and she was like, so, I have a few lumps
Speaker 1: growing in my body. But it was like really funny
Speaker 1: because I was like, yeah, you are. The doctor said
Speaker 1: it was cancer and then didn't. So I have these
Speaker 1: lumps and we don't know what it is, but we
Speaker 1: know they need to get removed. And we also know
Speaker 1: that she's like, you guys can't see what she was
Speaker 1: just like it wasting. She was gesticulating. Yeah, and then
Speaker 1: she was not watching It happens Live last night and
Speaker 1: it's with Renee rap who you know, it's like a
Speaker 1: big house lies fan and you can tell that Renee
Speaker 1: was navigating so hard. How do I co exists with
Speaker 1: me on this panel? To very different energy. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: it was a fun episode. It was it was actually
Speaker 1: a fun episode. Yeah, yeah, I'm sure. Do you watch
Speaker 1: to watch What Happens every night? I do? I I
Speaker 1: it's my favorite show. Oh my god. So I was
Speaker 1: ready to come in, like if I Becoming did come up,
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I almost count you guys, because
Speaker 1: you like, I love Candace. But I was going to
Speaker 1: say that I went balanced in person a Johnny completely convert, like,
Speaker 1: I'm really like, she's having a really great season. Well,
Speaker 1: she's the only grounded presence on the show this season.
Speaker 1: I feel like she's the only one that's like able
Speaker 1: to look around and be like, huh, like this is
Speaker 1: not it, which is crazy. So we also need a
Speaker 1: German word for when, like you haven't watched the House
Speaker 1: season yet, but you've seen the discourse and so you
Speaker 1: know who people are hating going into it. I look
Speaker 1: to you to create this word. I don't actually mean
Speaker 1: to make a German word. I can't. I don't know
Speaker 1: the language that. Yeah, we're gonna call it bosh and
Speaker 1: fruit and um, I think we've talked about this before. Like,
Speaker 1: even when I know you're in the wrong, I still
Speaker 1: like kind of stand by you. Yeah, and I do.
Speaker 1: Like when I wrap with Canada, she said that I
Speaker 1: watch what happens, like she goes ten down for Candice
Speaker 1: every single time. That's cool. I like when someone has that.
Speaker 1: And for me, one of those people is Robin. Oh no,
Speaker 1: people don't like I am. Robin has gotten to the
Speaker 1: point for me where I'm like, no, it doesn't matter
Speaker 1: what she does from now once, she could solve world
Speaker 1: hunger Anti Robin, I don't don't this season. I just
Speaker 1: get her. It's been season a little so I like
Speaker 1: when he was like, my husband's mad because I sleep
Speaker 1: to two pm. But that's like what I want. It's like,
Speaker 1: I just think she is so I find that so
Speaker 1: I didn't try. No, I find that what I respond
Speaker 1: to is that even when she's saying something wrong or
Speaker 1: she is, you know, siding with Giselle in a way
Speaker 1: that's confusing. I feel that I can tell that she
Speaker 1: believes what she's saying, like I do think like even
Speaker 1: when she's off base, she's earnestly off based, do you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Whereas Giselle, who I can let
Speaker 1: I root for and I want to like, but it's
Speaker 1: like the things she's saying, it's like, you don't even
Speaker 1: believe this, you know, you're just saying is consistently manipulative
Speaker 1: and vicious and obviously producing. And the way that's the show.
Speaker 1: That's where I come from. With Renda too, It's like I,
Speaker 1: if you earnestly came in and said, I believe that
Speaker 1: this is true and this is what I'm saying, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, this is my truth. And sure it's like
Speaker 1: inflammatory and actually delusional, but whatever, but this is like
Speaker 1: what I believe. I can't always get behind that, and
Speaker 1: like see this woman grappling with her own internal world.
Speaker 1: But when I can tell if they don't even believe
Speaker 1: it and they're just saying it, that's when I'm like,
Speaker 1: I don't care. Gazelle and Robin neither of them have
Speaker 1: any conviction. Like Robin certainly has nothing to like really
Speaker 1: fight for. Like even the thing with jan which is,
Speaker 1: by the way, it's been installed in the same place
Speaker 1: for three seasons, it's not interesting to me. And she's
Speaker 1: most of the time to me, she is just Giselle's
Speaker 1: little lackey. And then anytime someone sets her off, it's
Speaker 1: usually Wendy and it's like it's so much. Ye, the
Speaker 1: thing with Wendy is really crazy to me too, because
Speaker 1: if you actually walk back why they even started to
Speaker 1: have a problem, it's because Robin said that Wendy was loose,
Speaker 1: not of substance, that she was like talking about her
Speaker 1: body behind her back, and so all of these things,
Speaker 1: and then she was like ten down for Giselle when
Speaker 1: Giselle was bringing these stupid rumors about Wendy which obviously
Speaker 1: are not true about Eddie eating onto the show. So
Speaker 1: it's like all these things that are not grounded in
Speaker 1: reality that you then threw it Wendy and now you're
Speaker 1: mad at her for responding in a heated way to
Speaker 1: the point where now you are like so immature in
Speaker 1: dealing with it, like her at the winery, the way
Speaker 1: that she was like I care, I don't care. Last
Speaker 1: season she was like, oh I would go fund myself
Speaker 1: that I'm like where. But I also believe that sometimes
Speaker 1: I think that Wendy seems to be a little full
Speaker 1: of ship sometimes and I think that they can clock
Speaker 1: that and that gets frushing for them. I think we
Speaker 1: saw that with you know, the hot mic moment after
Speaker 1: the TikTok lesson dance lessons. I was just tripping actually
Speaker 1: saying I'm gonna have it. I'm gonna host a TikTok
Speaker 1: teaching TikTok dance teaching thing. And then they came in.
Speaker 1: It was just like them learning tipping, which is cool,
Speaker 1: but I've never seen a woman kind of do this
Speaker 1: on TikTok the way they got like a drone into
Speaker 1: that studio. Um, and so what was the hot moment?
Speaker 1: So then, Wendy, it was the episode was titled stand
Speaker 1: in Your Truth and because they stand in your Truth,
Speaker 1: and then like the producer, I would love to know
Speaker 1: the machinations of this moment. I would love to know
Speaker 1: if the producer was doing this on purpose, like if
Speaker 1: they knew that Mike was still on. But a producer
Speaker 1: chased her said Wendy, Wendy, what do you think about Mia?
Speaker 1: And she was like he had just said, like, Robin,
Speaker 1: you called me a liar, you called me a liar
Speaker 1: standing in her truth. I never called her a liar.
Speaker 1: And then it cut to like the Wendy hot Mike
Speaker 1: moment was we all know she's lying? Yeah, so's I
Speaker 1: don't mind a hot mic moment that like it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: you're not saying it to her face, but it feels
Speaker 1: like a very intentional assembly of a character this season
Speaker 1: that Wendy is doing like she's really she's lost. But
Speaker 1: I felt lost with her last season, even I thought
Speaker 1: I thought she earned that spot next to Andy. But
Speaker 1: what I think is happening is unfortunately her only actual
Speaker 1: friend on the show was Candice, and now it's feeling
Speaker 1: a little bit like like she's feeling really iced out
Speaker 1: of the group in a way that I feel is
Speaker 1: bordering on bullying. But then it's like, well, I think
Speaker 1: I was. Actually I will say I am on So
Speaker 1: I'm at the point where Robin calls Candice and asks
Speaker 1: Candice to ask Wendy to bring her kids. To feel
Speaker 1: like that that is that is crazy. I will say
Speaker 1: that Robin's a fool. But I did feel that Robin,
Speaker 1: I don't know what. I don't know why, because I
Speaker 1: do anyway, it's going into this season, I knew that
Speaker 1: everyone disliked her, like she was not the favorite, and
Speaker 1: so I don't know what. I'm just watching it through
Speaker 1: that lens, but also knowing I've always because even in
Speaker 1: season money, you know what I think it's I guess
Speaker 1: I respond to when it feels like this show is
Speaker 1: not that important to them. I think that's and that's
Speaker 1: why I truly love Shere's Is, like she is does
Speaker 1: not I love Shari. I don't think the show is
Speaker 1: important to her. I don't know if she's playing with
Speaker 1: house money, like she's like, I don't need that. Last
Speaker 1: night it was funny though, because literally they're all on
Speaker 1: this huge girl's trip to Miami and they get to
Speaker 1: the house and Shere's is immediately unhappy with her room,
Speaker 1: and this is like where the show is happening, and
Speaker 1: there's goes in the corner and she's like on the
Speaker 1: phone with her travel agent being like, hey, yeah, I
Speaker 1: need a hotel, and she's gonna leave. So maybe the
Speaker 1: show isn't important to her because she's willing to leave
Speaker 1: filming because her room doesn't have a bathroom. Just like
Speaker 1: he gives so little that it's almost artful. I don't
Speaker 1: know that she's I think she's trying to give a
Speaker 1: lot because the show, remember, was supposed to be built
Speaker 1: around her. She was supposed to be in the beginning.
Speaker 1: It was like it was about like Charisse and Karen
Speaker 1: and Giselle and like the power struggle between the three
Speaker 1: of them, for like who was the queen bee of
Speaker 1: Potomac and then Saris fell so far to the bottom
Speaker 1: that has sort of become this like Giselle Karen thing
Speaker 1: because they actually know don't mean she is a vicious person.
Speaker 1: And I'll say this, I know a producer on one
Speaker 1: of these shows who worked with Giselle and he said
Speaker 1: that she was by far his favorite to work with.
Speaker 1: And what that said to me was that she's the
Speaker 1: most manipulative and down to make the reality show happen
Speaker 1: instead of like just living life. Like I don't like
Speaker 1: any housewife that is like an active producer in the show.
Speaker 1: Any time that happens, I feel like I see through it.
Speaker 1: It's not fun. And also, these women are not actresses
Speaker 1: like you're saying, so when they don't believe it, they're not.
Speaker 1: I can never used being an actress to win is
Speaker 1: not actress PI and just went on Survivor. It would
Speaker 1: flop so hard. Um nowture blue number of culture. It's
Speaker 1: just Survivor. It was so hard and never used, never used.
Speaker 1: But Zell, I feel like I hate to make this distinction,
Speaker 1: but it is the light skinned girls bullying not not no,
Speaker 1: and they also know about that and still do it right.
Speaker 1: It's I'm gonna say, I hope it gets better. Um yeah,
Speaker 1: well that's why I did that. The vibes are a
Speaker 1: little a bit of a bummer is about to throw
Speaker 1: a drink in Wendy's face next week. I don't like this,
Speaker 1: even if one do. I don't like that they're like violent.
Speaker 1: I haven't gotten yet, but I will say, like I'm
Speaker 1: always done to watch five episodes of Pasties in a row.
Speaker 1: But I was just like, this isn't compelling to me
Speaker 1: right now, I will say, and this is hard for
Speaker 1: me to say everything franchise wide right now, I'm kind
Speaker 1: of feeling like all of this needs to turn up
Speaker 1: a little bit. But it used to activate a little
Speaker 1: bit more Like it feels like everyone on every franchise
Speaker 1: is hyper aware of the reality element to the point
Speaker 1: where they're managing themselves. And I'm like, we need something
Speaker 1: like actually messy to happen, and not messy as in
Speaker 1: a drama way, as in like, oh that's odd, I
Speaker 1: haven't seen that before. Type of Salt Lake is like
Speaker 1: getting a little bit better. I'm enjoying salt like this.
Speaker 1: This last episode was great. The auditions are crazy. I'm
Speaker 1: the only one who can really sing crip for his
Speaker 1: bad little like Sarah and I. All week we're just
Speaker 1: we're going away. It's so crazy. And then they were like,
Speaker 1: you're amazing, Lisa. Did I do it? Was that it?
Speaker 1: You can real listen only the season was like Juliet
Speaker 1: the premier when like Lisa Barlow is playing um basketball
Speaker 1: with her college moment. It was a college moment and
Speaker 1: like it was when they were just they were just
Speaker 1: getting into the funch college conversation and he was like,
Speaker 1: you know, I already have a company and yeah, killer company,
Speaker 1: because like they were some telling each one because you
Speaker 1: couldn't really understand that they didn't even that killer company.
Speaker 1: Lisa was the reason for the season. Everyone saying it
Speaker 1: you have been since day one. I've been like, no,
Speaker 1: Lisa Barlow once once the dust Settle is like, she
Speaker 1: is going to be the star of the show because
Speaker 1: again like she's the most wacko alien present. Meredith is too,
Speaker 1: but also Meredith is now trying to hard on the bathtub.
Speaker 1: Was Seth, I'm like, I don't know you you understood
Speaker 1: that we liked the bathtub thing from last season. So
Speaker 1: now you put your husband in it and you started
Speaker 1: it's hard. She's like losing me a little bit. This
Speaker 1: Lisa is kind of the foothold I have that we
Speaker 1: all need right now in terms of like, oh, where
Speaker 1: where did that come from? Charter a character like I'm
Speaker 1: important to God. God, I'm very important to God. An
Speaker 1: amazing line her thing, Yes, an amazing line every episode
Speaker 1: she gives that. Every episode you leave, and it's like
Speaker 1: at least three moments where you're like God, she's having
Speaker 1: this really her own planet. She's having this really earnest
Speaker 1: battle with herself like should I be nice to my
Speaker 1: sisters who are going to divorce? Says I don't know
Speaker 1: if I should be nice to me. It's really hard
Speaker 1: for me to listen because I take that home with me.
Speaker 1: When I get on the phone, my whole day is ruined.
Speaker 1: Every energy hell him Agan, here's Hella. The reason why
Speaker 1: I like Lisa too is because the way she's a
Speaker 1: laughway from a tear at all times, like tears fill
Speaker 1: up in her eyes. That means to me, she's not
Speaker 1: faking it. Like she is not faking it, She's she's
Speaker 1: genuinely that emotional, whereas Gazelle. The reason why everyone's like,
Speaker 1: we never see Gazelle cry is because she's never really
Speaker 1: never at all. I do love her freaking daughters that
Speaker 1: they show the moments of her with her kids, because
Speaker 1: otherwise there are no redeemable quality period. I'm quoting my
Speaker 1: best friend Matt Rogers. Every time we know it's going
Speaker 1: to get rough for Giselle, we will see a scene
Speaker 1: of them getting a pedicred together. Because the daughters are
Speaker 1: like great and lovely, and you get the sense that
Speaker 1: if we actually were to see Gazelle's real life, we
Speaker 1: might be able to understand that she is a good mom,
Speaker 1: like has been through hard things. You know, she's a
Speaker 1: funny person. But when she gets into reality show mode
Speaker 1: and the quote unquote reasons why producers like her, it's ugly.
Speaker 1: It's she definitely doesn't believe this ship with Chris and
Speaker 1: this could like really damage him. And it's like, I
Speaker 1: struggle with Chris, but I do think he's being But
Speaker 1: do you think that he No? No, And I actually
Speaker 1: believe him, and he says that just and he was like,
Speaker 1: can I talk to you? And she was going to
Speaker 1: go to my room because that's what he says. I
Speaker 1: can hear her saying, because she wants the tea and
Speaker 1: mostly what she wants is the tea. And then she
Speaker 1: probably realized because here's what I'll say. I don't doubt
Speaker 1: that she felt like it's weird that we're in the
Speaker 1: room together alone. But they probably had a moment together
Speaker 1: where they both realized it and we're like, let's not
Speaker 1: do this. But like her talking to Candice, oh, you
Speaker 1: haven't seen this last episode is a little oh, she
Speaker 1: says this. She goes, I don't ever want to be
Speaker 1: in a room with a married man. And it's like, okay,
Speaker 1: but there's so much like you're what does that mean?
Speaker 1: Like every married man who's in the room with you
Speaker 1: wants to like fuck you or something. That's what she'sating,
Speaker 1: which is and it's like, is she doing it to
Speaker 1: dismantle what she knows is a teammate to Wendy, Like
Speaker 1: is that what it is? Of course? I mean it's
Speaker 1: all rooted in that, it's all rooted in wanting. So
Speaker 1: what do you like that Robin is standing by them?
Speaker 1: Like Robin is very much fighting for them. I will
Speaker 1: say this. I will say this, I think because Giselle
Speaker 1: has gone so low at this point, I actually think
Speaker 1: for the first time, Giselle has literally gone too far,
Speaker 1: too far, And now Robin is like, I can't go
Speaker 1: down with that ship. I mean, I'm literally seeing that
Speaker 1: you're going too far. So if I didn't, because then
Speaker 1: Robin would definitively be like a Pence figure, like like essentially,
Speaker 1: Robin Rabbit had a choice to make. Shall I be
Speaker 1: a Pence figure? Should not? Robin is it's giving if
Speaker 1: Giselle is insurrectionist, well, let's we forget Mike Pence. On
Speaker 1: January six, broke a secondly, Um, you know arial Carlin
Speaker 1: Network has a Robin Nixon hat. Well, somehow people are
Speaker 1: getting them now after months and months of waiting. I
Speaker 1: mean we were on the ground floor when Mitra and
Speaker 1: Joel had ordered Robin Dixon hats and then they never came.
Speaker 1: And then Casey Wilson and Danielle were on the show
Speaker 1: last week and they said that they had ordered hats
Speaker 1: and I said, did they come? And they said they
Speaker 1: finally came after months. I have to say, you know what,
Speaker 1: I really loved one of my favorite of last year
Speaker 1: was I loved it. I need to read it. It
Speaker 1: was really funny. But then I would it would get
Speaker 1: really real sometimes and it just you really felt like
Speaker 1: you had a little friends. She's a great person. I
Speaker 1: really adore her. I have actually always been a fan.
Speaker 1: And I remember, like back in the day, like when
Speaker 1: she was first on Saturday Night Live, it kind of
Speaker 1: just felt it was the first time I ever saw
Speaker 1: that show, and I was like, no, it's not her,
Speaker 1: that's the problem. Yeah, you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 1: I was like, and then when she went on to
Speaker 1: like obviously great success, she was a happy end and
Speaker 1: just like a lot of people's favorite second like that
Speaker 1: when I was on. Yeah, and so now she's got
Speaker 1: like all the success. But I remember that was the
Speaker 1: first time because that was when I was really obsessed
Speaker 1: with when we were like adults. Yeah, and remember being like,
Speaker 1: maybe this is not vibing, but I believe that she's good.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but the show would have you believe. The
Speaker 1: only I remember of her is she played um baby
Speaker 1: Deska who fell in the well. You know she had.
Speaker 1: She had a really good bit too, as a paraplegic stripper.
Speaker 1: You're thinking of Amy Polar, No I'm not. You're thinking
Speaker 1: of I got one leg speaking of Pence figures, I'm
Speaker 1: catching up. But yeah, I was motivated to watch because
Speaker 1: of you interest, So I am okay. So when I
Speaker 1: Party was coming out, I was like, I've had enough
Speaker 1: of I'm Sarah and Mark, I've had enough of this people. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: and I are you watching? I have not yet watched
Speaker 1: because if you remember, if you zoom seg in time,
Speaker 1: I could not get through the first season because I
Speaker 1: found it to be too long. I agree. I did
Speaker 1: not finish the last episode because by the I was
Speaker 1: with it and the first four episodes, and then it
Speaker 1: got to nine and suddenly was like, oh, there's like
Speaker 1: a lot of episodes there. The Nancy Nancy, So Nancy
Speaker 1: is It is a beautiful character study, like and who
Speaker 1: is Nancy Salzman? Like what is wrong with this woman's slash?
Speaker 1: Like what happened to her? That's like how is she
Speaker 1: the victim? How is she culpable? Like I do think
Speaker 1: it's interesting. See my takeaway from season one was like
Speaker 1: this is like a bad documentary, Like they're taking really
Speaker 1: interesting subject matter and like mishandling, in spite of how
Speaker 1: they're doing it, it's still compelling to me. You know what,
Speaker 1: I mean. And so then when the India dock came out,
Speaker 1: that was better. I heard it was better. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: know what I kept saying. What I loved about it
Speaker 1: is because like India did figure into you know, and
Speaker 1: Sarah was the narrator and in vow and they kind
Speaker 1: of made her almost seem like a villain. She was
Speaker 1: still in the cult, and like do you want to
Speaker 1: much about like getting her out of the cult, and
Speaker 1: like Sarah and Mark for some reason moving into the
Speaker 1: actress's home and like always like eating all her food,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like I was always like
Speaker 1: I hope they're red mowing her for this. They're always
Speaker 1: like at her counter, just like reaching out, like and
Speaker 1: and so then when in the Time or the Stars,
Speaker 1: when I think that India was the kind of the
Speaker 1: narrator and she and she kind of I will say,
Speaker 1: like Sarah was kind of a villain because to that one.
Speaker 1: And then it felt very much to me like Season
Speaker 1: jually gonna be each christin Christen's narrator and like and
Speaker 1: like we'll see the other side and Lauren's almost like
Speaker 1: the villain. That was really fun. And then perspective force perspective,
Speaker 1: and I wasn't expecting this to be interesting anymore, And
Speaker 1: but I watched the first episode because like why not
Speaker 1: for some reason, I'm just drawn back in and you
Speaker 1: find out so much crazy ship and then the most
Speaker 1: episode four all upsetting whatever, it's crazy. I have not
Speaker 1: I've not gone depisode four. But it's Lauren of that part. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is not spoiler, but what I will say is
Speaker 1: it's Laurence Laurence. Yeah, and you find out so much crazy.
Speaker 1: So it's also so funny. It's like Nancy Saw has
Speaker 1: been like walking around with her like house arrest, Uncle
Speaker 1: Brace's great, did her for his table? Yeah, And there's
Speaker 1: so much great comedy where it's like she's walking around
Speaker 1: like first she said talking about like all the people
Speaker 1: she's coached in esp She's like all these big names,
Speaker 1: these famous people. She picks up an OH magazine picture
Speaker 1: of Oprah taps shows I coached the person who art
Speaker 1: directed this coming space, the person who are dried. And
Speaker 1: then she opens up the spread and she's in bad
Speaker 1: and then also and then like there's something there's like
Speaker 1: one woman who's still in the cad who goes back
Speaker 1: to Albany and she's like looking around oh my god, like,
Speaker 1: we had so much fun here, and then there's a
Speaker 1: jacket on the hook and she's like and she's like emotional, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is Jacket, Keith Jacket. I think maybe I will
Speaker 1: say knowing that the now season two is about Nancy,
Speaker 1: like because I remember watching the first season and being like,
Speaker 1: I wish we could focus on one of the more
Speaker 1: interesting elements of this, and she, to me did because
Speaker 1: of her snatch game esque quality. She was of course
Speaker 1: jumping out at me, and I was like, whenever she
Speaker 1: was on screen, I was was something about she's a star,
Speaker 1: and it is like the show this season does a
Speaker 1: good job of making her sympathetic until you remember, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: she threw her daughters into that, and like was okay
Speaker 1: with both of them fucking this man. Do you think
Speaker 1: she knew because she says that she doesn't about about Doss,
Speaker 1: even about like, you know, the way she tells that
Speaker 1: she was really in the document about their relationship until
Speaker 1: it was essentially being in denial is different than being
Speaker 1: in the dark. I think I think she probably wasn't
Speaker 1: intense denial, but she I think intuitively, at least I
Speaker 1: knew everything that was happening yeah, yeah, well, I I
Speaker 1: sometimes feel like, you know, we see in this season
Speaker 1: she works together with Keith so much when on when
Speaker 1: they're starting the company, when they're building their quote modules,
Speaker 1: and I do feel like he dismantles her a little bit.
Speaker 1: And then but it is interesting. It's like one of
Speaker 1: those things of like, you know, you think about Sarah
Speaker 1: last year, how you know she's the good guy, and like,
Speaker 1: but she brought people into the call, Like why isn't so?
Speaker 1: How can Sarah say, Nancy, you're the bad guy because
Speaker 1: you brought me in? But I brought other people And
Speaker 1: but it's like, wasn't Nancy Keith's first kind of victim?
Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean? And also the one
Speaker 1: person who I believe truly is in love with him
Speaker 1: and would love to have sex with him, and he's Nancy,
Speaker 1: I think so, and he's like not into it. There's
Speaker 1: a moment like I'm watching this whole thing being like
Speaker 1: what compelled you guys to record everything? Intimate thing? Yeah,
Speaker 1: we've been doing a podcast for seven years. It's three
Speaker 1: smartphone Yeah, I feel I don't know, like fourteen, I
Speaker 1: don't know, Like it was just a different thing totally. Um,
Speaker 1: the Nancy thing. She has this whole thing of like,
Speaker 1: um my mother said, like her a little dummy. It's
Speaker 1: it's a perfect, juicy little origin story, like I was
Speaker 1: diagnosed as dyslexic, I didn't do well in school, my
Speaker 1: mom called me an idiot growing up, all of these
Speaker 1: things that kind of lead up to her being this nurse.
Speaker 1: And then like the other interesting wrinkle in it is
Speaker 1: that she did help these people with threats overcoming. I
Speaker 1: know the episode was so boring. I kind of loved it. Well,
Speaker 1: it didn't help. You know, I have a love of tics.
Speaker 1: I do have love tics, and I like trying to
Speaker 1: use the tools I learned. That episode's interesting. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I need Nancy to disconnect the stimula. So I went in.
Speaker 1: I just kind of what are you talking about? She
Speaker 1: was like a beautiful day to say, vives. But but
Speaker 1: she does talk about it as if and I believe
Speaker 1: her too. I believe that she believed that she was
Speaker 1: doing the right I believe that too. And that's what's interesting. Yes,
Speaker 1: and that's sometimes how I feel about Robin. Oh my god.
Speaker 1: Figure figure the fact that Robin and Nancy Salzman are
Speaker 1: almost say in conversation actually doesn't really shake me because
Speaker 1: of Giselle's similarity to Keith Renieri. Yeah is the Real
Speaker 1: House was of Potomac Occult and as Candice ringing the bell,
Speaker 1: Candice is the what's her name? Sarah? Sarah? Yeah, Sarah's there,
Speaker 1: and it's so little now it's kind of I'm kind
Speaker 1: of okay, I'm They're the reason why I got boring
Speaker 1: the first season because you're like, I don't need to
Speaker 1: know more about these people, which probably was in the
Speaker 1: pitch for the second season, like, Hey, we're going to
Speaker 1: focus in on the actual interesting stuff here, because that's
Speaker 1: what's whenever there's like a documentary about like any of
Speaker 1: these cults are harmful organizations, I want to know, like
Speaker 1: what's going on in the annal workings that made it
Speaker 1: to be such an established thing. I understand how victims
Speaker 1: are victimized, Like I get that pretty much. It happens
Speaker 1: all the same way, So there's something interesting to understanding
Speaker 1: the psychology behind people getting to be an answer salesman like,
Speaker 1: and I understand the moral question of like is she
Speaker 1: a victim? Is she monster? And ultimately obviously the answer
Speaker 1: is both because it's sort of like a like a
Speaker 1: fucking Hitler follower thing. It's like, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: you wouldn't you wouldn't question whether or not the Nazis
Speaker 1: are like, you know, evil, they are so interest saying,
Speaker 1: you know, I follow this Christian girl vlog or as
Speaker 1: like I hate followed joke and I have, but I
Speaker 1: have for like six years. I think Katie with Ashcraft
Speaker 1: initially told me about her. Yeah, and she'll talk about,
Speaker 1: you know, how to make up in a godly way,
Speaker 1: how to be in the same space with a man
Speaker 1: in a Yeah, that's God. And um, now she's pivoted
Speaker 1: and she well, first of all, I've been waiting for
Speaker 1: literally seven years hoping she would like explicitly like speak
Speaker 1: out against so mu sexuality. So no, she a hell
Speaker 1: raising horse, so no, so like, so finally she stopped
Speaker 1: that your guesses are really wrong and when you guess
Speaker 1: something so wrong and confusing the listener, because that sets
Speaker 1: up expectations that are gonna be really wrong. Okay, so
Speaker 1: unless you can be more right, please don't guess. I'm
Speaker 1: listening and I'm absorbing. And so finally she came out
Speaker 1: like two weeks ago as saying that like finally she
Speaker 1: was like you welcome to the corner of the internet
Speaker 1: where we believe marriages to a man. Because I was like, okay, cool,
Speaker 1: you finally did it. I can feel that the suction
Speaker 1: of like you hate her, I know. And then but
Speaker 1: now she's fully going in on like starting an MLM,
Speaker 1: like fully she's like, she's like, we want to be
Speaker 1: a like what is it like Prophecies thirty two women,
Speaker 1: which is like some verse in the Bible where they
Speaker 1: talking about a woman who staying at home and taking
Speaker 1: care of our kids and love being at It's always
Speaker 1: about like being an empowered woman. She's like, these are
Speaker 1: what we don't want. This is what uh, this is
Speaker 1: what women actually don't want, competing with men in the workplace,
Speaker 1: keep the nine to five, being a boss babe, whoever
Speaker 1: said I wanted that? And then like staying at home
Speaker 1: with my babies and but still making money. I think,
Speaker 1: if you want these things, you can have them. And
Speaker 1: then but she's just using so much language around MLM
Speaker 1: though it's like anyone who's ever seen actually any documentary,
Speaker 1: well it's just so textbook. She's like, you're gonna if
Speaker 1: you want this life, you can have it. But you're
Speaker 1: gonna need to make an investment up front, and that's
Speaker 1: actually gonna help you because it's gonna motivate you, and
Speaker 1: it's just like, yeah, it's really The interesting thing about
Speaker 1: Nexium is like all cults have some degree of self
Speaker 1: surrender and the people it's it's not that cult leaders
Speaker 1: go after vulnerable people. It's that they go after people
Speaker 1: who kind of want to be totally I'm very much recruitable. Well,
Speaker 1: it's you know what, it's smart, creative people who are
Speaker 1: very open to an experience, who feel like there's an
Speaker 1: untapped potential. Yes, and that was exactly what he was
Speaker 1: going after. And then the I think the thing that
Speaker 1: this season does very well in illustrating is that it's
Speaker 1: like part of the way he got he got like
Speaker 1: more people to come in or he got people to stay,
Speaker 1: was like he would very methodically be like, oh, anytime
Speaker 1: you feel bad about yourself, it's a lie. And anytime
Speaker 1: you feel like you're being a victim, you're not a victim. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And it tells it forces these people to kill their
Speaker 1: impulse where they think, oh, maybe this is not a
Speaker 1: good situation totally, and I was the last thing side
Speaker 1: to The Day I Die is the previous for next week.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, tonight on the vow they like really
Speaker 1: start off focused on like a room. We finally get
Speaker 1: to find out with the girl in the room. Do
Speaker 1: you remember them last season in the room? It was
Speaker 1: the thing they mentioned but was never explored. And also
Speaker 1: it was like probably the person who suffered the most
Speaker 1: but was never It was like a passing sentence in
Speaker 1: the first season, like there was a girl who stayed
Speaker 1: inside of her room for two years because they told
Speaker 1: her too and the door wasn't locked, and they told
Speaker 1: her she had to stand there and for two years.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, and and she did, and so she pooped,
Speaker 1: she pop in the room. So fine, we're going to
Speaker 1: find out tonight where that woman pooped. Oh I don't
Speaker 1: know a birth two years, I don't remember. I don't
Speaker 1: remember the exact as wait just as zoom back to Potomac.
Speaker 1: When Robin said when when Josell said about Robin, I
Speaker 1: know this woman, well, I know she should take twice.
Speaker 1: This was like, I don't. I don't want to know
Speaker 1: about Robin now, like people are so regular. One time
Speaker 1: I thought I went to this like that's your no.
Speaker 1: But it reminds me this one. Some people are so
Speaker 1: it's really gross and really embarrassing. But when I was
Speaker 1: telling this girl obviotlunally stunning, gorgeous girl, that was like
Speaker 1: going tocause. I went to this thing every day at
Speaker 1: like seven am. And she was like, yeah, but like,
Speaker 1: don't you like I have to poop every morning? And
Speaker 1: I was like, what did you say? I just can't
Speaker 1: go somewhere before I poop. And I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I don't. Honestly I understand, but I would never let
Speaker 1: that limit me in the scheduling way, do you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? Like, I was like, yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: even think about it. I might, I honestly don't even
Speaker 1: think I would notice if that. I do go to
Speaker 1: this place every day at seven am, and it's I'm
Speaker 1: able to kind of make it work. I'm actually just
Speaker 1: realized that I actually hate talking about poop. No I
Speaker 1: do too, and like we we can, we can. And
Speaker 1: also we've been dragged before for talking about poop. I
Speaker 1: don't even really don't like it. We don't like it either.
Speaker 1: We don't like it either. I'm just saying this because
Speaker 1: I just realized something. I just got pure for men,
Speaker 1: and I forgot it at home because I'm we're all,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to be home for another you haven't
Speaker 1: been in the past. No, I just got the first time,
Speaker 1: got her because they actually sent some to me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know, maybe I should. It's hard. Well, I don't
Speaker 1: say about pure for man is like it is jacky
Speaker 1: because you have to take like literally three in the
Speaker 1: morning and like three at night. It doesn't really work.
Speaker 1: You got to do it and it doesn't really take
Speaker 1: effect for like a few days, so you have to
Speaker 1: really be on your ship. And then secondly, like they say,
Speaker 1: don't take it near other medications because I guess, like
Speaker 1: I don't know why absorb How does it interact with disco.
Speaker 1: It doesn't interact it just like if you if you
Speaker 1: take it with your discoviy, it like it might not
Speaker 1: be as impact up you don't absorb it. You're you're
Speaker 1: lining doesn't absorb it in the same way or something
Speaker 1: that's a lot of pill. So I can I just edit,
Speaker 1: We're gonna stop talking. Yes, I have just gone back
Speaker 1: to the animal too. It's just it's just easier though.
Speaker 1: I mean, I have it pure and I take it
Speaker 1: and like whatever and it comes it will make it
Speaker 1: easier if it's like a last minute situation. But like
Speaker 1: but whatever, never nothing. It's more disappointing in like last
Speaker 1: Friday things more just than the last part, because it
Speaker 1: means we don't have just we don't have just forward
Speaker 1: to Friday. Last Friday. It means it's over the last
Speaker 1: roding a Crusoe voter. Hey, oh my god, that was
Speaker 1: such a flop. Really, I mean, she's done, she's done.
Speaker 1: We might have to transition. Wait, let Pat finishes a story.
Speaker 1: But like I was gonna maybe go on a date.
Speaker 1: I haven't really been going on dates. I was going
Speaker 1: to maybe go on a date this person. I was
Speaker 1: kind of looking forward to it. But like, you know,
Speaker 1: schedules are tricking. My work goes till eight right now,
Speaker 1: but I spent my whole lunch break like with the bowl.
Speaker 1: But you know what I mean, like whatever, just in case,
Speaker 1: thinking maybe the first date would turn into first mate. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and like you don't really do it after eight o'clock
Speaker 1: right out of work. So here's a couple of things. Like,
Speaker 1: for one, I had to go straight there, so you know,
Speaker 1: there wasn't gonna be time like it was a dinner
Speaker 1: thing maybe. For two, um, he was like a doctor figure,
Speaker 1: so he had to be up at like seven am
Speaker 1: the next day too, so it was already going to
Speaker 1: be late. Anyways, I spent a whole lunch break doing that,
Speaker 1: didn't really eat all day, so I'm starving hungry, and
Speaker 1: then my work ran a little bit late, and then
Speaker 1: it was too late for him, so like he had
Speaker 1: to cancel, and then like, but there's nothing worse than
Speaker 1: like not eating. And then I like Julie ordered tie
Speaker 1: and like ate and watched like old TV. There's just
Speaker 1: nothing more humiliating than like fully starting and like being
Speaker 1: on the your all fours in your own bathroom, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, like Jonathan Jonathan, Yeah, doing the
Speaker 1: So sorry, it's sorry embarrassing to be gay. It's also
Speaker 1: like I remember when I was younger naive, I used
Speaker 1: to always um, I used to always like when I
Speaker 1: was young a naive, I would go and I would
Speaker 1: want like an ENEMYX. I was like maybe I'll have
Speaker 1: sex or something. I would like go into like you know,
Speaker 1: your sexual wellness. I all, I would go into your
Speaker 1: and then I'd make but I would you know, you're
Speaker 1: looking at the condoms, the lubes, like you're the sexy
Speaker 1: thing the things for sex, but then they're not in there.
Speaker 1: They're they're next to like the tums and the anti
Speaker 1: acids and like the laxative. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: It's like so embarrassing to go there for your sex,
Speaker 1: for your sex prep. But anyways, that's the last thing
Speaker 1: I ever say no about about about that thing. Alright,
Speaker 1: So I think we should transition to I don't think so, honey. Okay,
Speaker 1: So this is I don't think so honey. It's our
Speaker 1: sixty second segment where we absolutely dragged something in culture,
Speaker 1: and I feel disappointed that I have to say this
Speaker 1: next thing. I really do you have to? Okay? And
Speaker 1: there's actually a new story that just came up. Okay
Speaker 1: because by Wednesday it won't be breaking. This is TMZ.
Speaker 1: So is someone dead? No? No, no, no, no real house.
Speaker 1: It's a city star gun shot and loud, fiery and
Speaker 1: very public argument. Okay, Okay, play it. Do they have
Speaker 1: recording of it? They might? The link is loading. Where
Speaker 1: are we right now? In her case? Like is she
Speaker 1: going to jail? I mean almost certainly right now. I
Speaker 1: have a feeling like her Helen lease take place in
Speaker 1: the jel Okay, tense footage of Jen and for the
Speaker 1: people having a blowout in downtown Salt Lake City, and
Speaker 1: you hear Jen's screen several times, fuck you, we're told, Oh,
Speaker 1: we're told. This heated show down happened around pm on
Speaker 1: November five, as they say, Saturday night. It's all right
Speaker 1: for fighting. It's unclear. Writers are so funny. Um, okay,
Speaker 1: it's not that interesting. It's just you know, the people.
Speaker 1: It's at the next round of audition. It's not the
Speaker 1: call back, it's not the call but no, no, this
Speaker 1: this happened last week. Wow. So but again, why did
Speaker 1: it take so long for this to come out? I wonder?
Speaker 1: She is such a wreck. She's it's it's not fun.
Speaker 1: She's the element of the show where I'm like, okay, like,
Speaker 1: if we're not going to see her literally sentenced, then
Speaker 1: I'm like so bored because you know what's happening. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I do. I do like her this season, do you?
Speaker 1: Except for that one confessional where she has the hat.
Speaker 1: I love that she was giving Hamburg confessions. I'm struggling
Speaker 1: with the confessional and then the Ashley Derby bangs. I'm
Speaker 1: really struggling with that whole situation. I love it. I
Speaker 1: love it. Okay, wait, well remember Meredith's confession last year
Speaker 1: where everyone was like talking about how it looked like
Speaker 1: it had to be a breastplate. Yes, I mean yeah,
Speaker 1: and they just looked like a breastplate. I think Lisa's
Speaker 1: looking good in her confessionals. Yeah, definitely looks great at
Speaker 1: Lesa is a beautiful woman. Oh my god, I do
Speaker 1: I think I'm most attracted to Meredith. Yeah, I'm Ackenzie six,
Speaker 1: though you're Anzi six. I'm a Kenzie six. I'm like
Speaker 1: literally a Kinzie seven. But like I, I'm not attracted
Speaker 1: to women. But I would imagine Whitney is probably the hottest.
Speaker 1: I don't know if she is. Andrew said this, hers
Speaker 1: is very much like a purchased beauty at do you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? I actually have wild Rose sierumon
Speaker 1: right now? Oh how is it? I mean? I feel
Speaker 1: absolutely stunning. Yeah, you guys gasped when I came out
Speaker 1: of it. Better's belt in your trainer songs? Okay, let's
Speaker 1: I have the clock starting nothing. All you guys have
Speaker 1: to be on my one. Okay, shut up, this is
Speaker 1: Matt Rodgers. I don't think so, honey. As time starts.
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey, Katy Perry. I have to
Speaker 1: be honest with you. I've always been a Katie cat,
Speaker 1: but I can't just stand by while you are this
Speaker 1: publicly obtuse and like blind to the needs of the
Speaker 1: city that you live in, and is giving wealth, it
Speaker 1: is giving privilege, and honestly, while those things are definitely true,
Speaker 1: fucking cast your vote in private, first of all, isn't it.
Speaker 1: I know it's probably not illegal to do this in California,
Speaker 1: because I'm sure you asked someone on your team before
Speaker 1: you did it, But to post this and then, honestly,
Speaker 1: when you post like an advertise your political like belief
Speaker 1: and vote, understand that people are going to have a reaction.
Speaker 1: And so when you're getting ragged left and right, to
Speaker 1: and fro in your comments on every Flota you've posted
Speaker 1: since for this, understand that's because you put yourself in
Speaker 1: that position. I don't think so, honey. You might have
Speaker 1: to go to Brazil now, Katie, they're saying come to Brazil,
Speaker 1: come to Brazil. You might actually have to go because, period,
Speaker 1: point blank, l A needs Karen Bass. She's a head
Speaker 1: in the head in the vote. Right now. We need
Speaker 1: it to happen. I don't think so, honey, Rick Caruso
Speaker 1: and his followers, which are like kim Ka, Gwyneth and Katie.
Speaker 1: Look at the celebrities that are following him, and look
Speaker 1: at the celebrities that are following Karen Bass, that you
Speaker 1: have it right there and might have to go to Brazil.
Speaker 1: Have to Brazil, because these are all the celebrities that
Speaker 1: supported Caruso are like the disgusting ones. And when they
Speaker 1: say come to Brazil, it's to all those people. At
Speaker 1: least has a new leftist leader. I just like, all
Speaker 1: I know is it's just so obvious when all the richest,
Speaker 1: dumbest celebrities you follow are all saying one thing, probably
Speaker 1: that means that's not the one. And then you have
Speaker 1: like the actual activists who are like, it's Karen Bass,
Speaker 1: it's Karen Bass. It's like, you know, then don't say
Speaker 1: you're progressive or don't say you're a Democrat, even when
Speaker 1: you like advertise support for someone who was a Republican
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes before this is like basically documented as being
Speaker 1: not pro choice or anti choice, and as a billionaire
Speaker 1: real estate developer, go to the grove and tell me,
Speaker 1: you you you wouldn't want your city to look like
Speaker 1: the grove. And if you do go to the grove
Speaker 1: and you want l A to look like that, you
Speaker 1: are living in a fans move to somewhere else. It's like,
Speaker 1: it's like Joel Kim said, it's like people that wanted
Speaker 1: Caruso to save the city don't want to help with homelessness.
Speaker 1: They just don't want to look at it anymore. The
Speaker 1: conversation around homelessness is it's completely insane. And then I
Speaker 1: saw someone like even like people like I don't want
Speaker 1: to see homelessess, that not why do I have to
Speaker 1: see homelessness? Or like why does that person to have
Speaker 1: a home? You know, it's like that people are is
Speaker 1: the lack of humanity, the lack of a matter are
Speaker 1: on specifically people without houses. Is crazy to see a
Speaker 1: homeless persons, to be them and to not be able
Speaker 1: to see like the machinations that led to that person
Speaker 1: not having a house and that not being there, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, it's like to blame them or
Speaker 1: it's it's so upsetting. I will say I've lived in
Speaker 1: l A now almost four years. I guess like three
Speaker 1: and a half years and the situation is very bad
Speaker 1: and very dark. But I'll tell you what's the most
Speaker 1: sad is when you drive by like like an encampment
Speaker 1: area or there's a place where they are living, and
Speaker 1: then you drive back the next day and all it's
Speaker 1: all gone, and I'm like, what happened? Like those are
Speaker 1: people and I just feel like and of course it's
Speaker 1: the really really really rich people who genuinely see it
Speaker 1: like yeah, continue problem, and I'm just like the lack
Speaker 1: of humanity, the separation of wealth. There you go, and
Speaker 1: it's it is the richest people saying this. And also,
Speaker 1: let's be real, they were paid, they were paid by
Speaker 1: Caruso to say this. I that's what I think because
Speaker 1: when you have a billion dollars and you spend a
Speaker 1: hundred million dollars on this race, and it is like
Speaker 1: I'm not saying for a fact that I know, but
Speaker 1: it's fishy to me that he's able to essentially like
Speaker 1: get all these high prized endorsements from people whose number
Speaker 1: one thing is money. Totally like that's why like Kyle
Speaker 1: Richards is like career. I can't believe it. Well I
Speaker 1: could believe it, actually, but I'll say this only Beverly
Speaker 1: Hills housewife to come out and say go Karen Bass. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because she said and she even said she's like, I'm
Speaker 1: voting for a real democrat. Um, okay, so that was
Speaker 1: my I don't think so, honey. I am now a
Speaker 1: voice you are to be listening to, and now you
Speaker 1: weren't before. But at all. Of course, at this episode,
Speaker 1: I'm starting to like the song, but you will listen
Speaker 1: to it all that a question for you, is it
Speaker 1: that Megan Trainer is now going back to like do
Speaker 1: wop sounds. She's never lost, she's never what I called
Speaker 1: girl bossa nova. That's great, that really great, really good.
Speaker 1: But do you think she's like forced by the label
Speaker 1: to like stay in that. I think her label knows
Speaker 1: they have someone that they can play in Baskin Robbins,
Speaker 1: in Target and at play places. I think toddlers are
Speaker 1: gonna learn to dance to the song. You know what
Speaker 1: a toddler like learns to dance and that sort of
Speaker 1: shaking their legs. It's actually really cute. But like imagine
Speaker 1: like if if you had a baby and this song
Speaker 1: came on, you would love to watch a dance. Yes,
Speaker 1: look a look at him he's going, oh Riley, Um,
Speaker 1: I feel like it might be one of those things
Speaker 1: where Jenn Alfa, We're gonna ten years from now, the
Speaker 1: kids of today will be like Megan Trainer is our queen,
Speaker 1: will shoot and apology. It's like, um, this is not
Speaker 1: the right comparison. But it's like the way people go
Speaker 1: apes over Lea Michelle, like some of the kids the
Speaker 1: gen Zers goes with any of the Gleep cast because
Speaker 1: they grew up on Glee. But like even when like
Speaker 1: we were in college by the people came out and
Speaker 1: we're like, okay, yeah, whatever kids, Bobby. But now like
Speaker 1: this whole new generation of people is like, oh, I
Speaker 1: didn't know that still running the world. It's so true. Wow,
Speaker 1: that's really scary. Like all of them have a huge
Speaker 1: podcast to like Kevin McAllen, Jenna Switz have a podcast
Speaker 1: like a big deal. Um, okay, this is something funny.
Speaker 1: You're ready and as time starts now, I don't think so, honey,
Speaker 1: space bar before an exclamation point? What people need to
Speaker 1: understand that the exclamation point comes after the word. There's
Speaker 1: no space in between. I don't care if this is
Speaker 1: an intentional way for you to show that you have
Speaker 1: a bit of whimsy and you that you like to
Speaker 1: do the rules of grammar. It's really shocking to me
Speaker 1: anytime I see it, and I've tried it on for
Speaker 1: size myself. I've not liked it the times I've done it.
Speaker 1: I don't think anyone should do it. It really people off.
Speaker 1: And the reason in this mess today's because language has
Speaker 1: broken down. You know, did you know that the words
Speaker 1: pronunciation and pronunciation are different. Pronunciation is the way that
Speaker 1: words are pronounced. Pronunciation is the way that letters are
Speaker 1: supposed to be said. It's the Tower of Babel all
Speaker 1: along because now no one can agree on how things
Speaker 1: should be said or written, and that's why we're in
Speaker 1: this mess. Communication is not caught up, has not grown
Speaker 1: with technology sec and language has not grown with technology.
Speaker 1: That's why we are miserable right now, because we don't
Speaker 1: know how to talk to each other. And that's when
Speaker 1: it's been the Tower of Babel that it was beautiful,
Speaker 1: you know, you know Plaset is playing the villain and
Speaker 1: coming of chaos. I love Wait what is coming chaos?
Speaker 1: It's the one that's exciting. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The House
Speaker 1: of Harkness House, it was called House of Harkness. It's
Speaker 1: now called Covin of Chaos. Oh that's fun, one alliteration
Speaker 1: to another. I don't really get why it's better. Maybe
Speaker 1: coving Chaos like tested better than House of Harkness because
Speaker 1: Pep forgot that her last name was hark Yeah, I
Speaker 1: forget that. Yeah, I forget that all along. They really
Speaker 1: really should have. So, so when have you been seeing
Speaker 1: this like as a yes, colloquially people are doing just
Speaker 1: just text hey, space exclamation point, yes, I I absolutely
Speaker 1: no means to me. I get that from my mom
Speaker 1: all the time, and I just thought it was like
Speaker 1: a mom. Now it's like no, it's I'm the meat
Speaker 1: in the sandwich, like the older generation does it and
Speaker 1: the younger generation does it, and I'm like, we are
Speaker 1: and all we are is meat lately. All we are lately?
Speaker 1: I see it with one is really disturbing. But it's
Speaker 1: one exclamation point. It's it's slightly more palatable, and there's
Speaker 1: like space and a block of exclamation points. I still
Speaker 1: don't like it. I agree, Why why is that better?
Speaker 1: It's it's only better because because then you're like making
Speaker 1: a feature of the exclamation. It's like this kind of
Speaker 1: spotlight not even a commutie choice. But yeah, it's a spotlight.
Speaker 1: It's like and that. Okay, here's the word, and then
Speaker 1: space and then like a new word. Eight exclamation points
Speaker 1: is now kind of like speaking towards the word. I
Speaker 1: went on your team and you're champion. In this, he's
Speaker 1: robing to you. Don't bite mea on the spoon up feature,
Speaker 1: So never bite me. I always say, don't bite the hand,
Speaker 1: don't bite the spoon. Don't it's very cold metal. It's
Speaker 1: gonna harm your teeth, going to very much harm your teeth.
Speaker 1: You know what. One of my favorite bits is when
Speaker 1: Josh Sharp will do exclamation points and then speak once
Speaker 1: in there. Yes, yes, very very very fun, very fun. Well,
Speaker 1: don you've given us something to think about again again. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and now he can have his Gucci on, he could
Speaker 1: have his Louis Vatton. But even with nothing on, Pat
Speaker 1: is gonna make us listen to us. I don't think so, honey.
Speaker 1: I don't know if this has been done before. I
Speaker 1: don't know anyone I know. It doesn't matter. In fact,
Speaker 1: I don't much better. Okay, okay, this is Pat Reagans.
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. His time starts now I
Speaker 1: do not think so, honey. When there's a bathroom in
Speaker 1: a home and the light switches outside the bathroom, it's
Speaker 1: so true. Why why don't I put you to do
Speaker 1: that as a builder, as an architect, as an electrician,
Speaker 1: as a human first, as human, as actually my orientation,
Speaker 1: Why are you putting a lightness room outside of room,
Speaker 1: a famously private space, a famously private room when you
Speaker 1: need where you you can go and have your moment alone.
Speaker 1: Why are you, first of all, I like, what should
Speaker 1: always be intuitive. It should always be walk in and
Speaker 1: you shouldn't even need to just you never walk into more.
Speaker 1: You should exactly where it is because we have that technology.
Speaker 1: We have the science to do that through architectural science.
Speaker 1: Now to put it not only not where you would
Speaker 1: expect in the room, outside the room. You're already making
Speaker 1: me feel vulnerable because someone some sick and twisting sucker
Speaker 1: turn off for no reason. Thank god, it's never happened
Speaker 1: to me, but I had to live in fear that
Speaker 1: it would, and that has destroyed nice and confidence, and
Speaker 1: it's been so brutal. I can't say that there's I
Speaker 1: could understand one reason why they would do it. It
Speaker 1: would maybe help. I don't think this is an important
Speaker 1: one because it really does give the advantage to trickster. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and the worst people in society are tricks. You don't
Speaker 1: want trickster energy in the home. No, sad, sad, I'm sad.
Speaker 1: We played you gag each other, you know where everyone's
Speaker 1: nicely like so many politics. I think that I love
Speaker 1: when someone comes to a talk show and they say
Speaker 1: that someone was the biggest pranks John see. I think
Speaker 1: that is such a fun story. Yeah, but then you
Speaker 1: then you unveil what the pranks were, and all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, like someone is pooping and then I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, like the light goes off,
Speaker 1: and then are they pranksters or are they just cruel?
Speaker 1: I agree? I don't sigh, I agree. I don't like pranks.
Speaker 1: I don't like pranks either. This is we We've established
Speaker 1: this on this podcast since its earliest episode. But it's
Speaker 1: a prank is just a way to upset people. Yes,
Speaker 1: where are you wearing such a chic shoe? It's best
Speaker 1: best loafer and design my careen bataker and I'm in
Speaker 1: sort of okay, sorry, I just saw that and I
Speaker 1: was like this is a sneaker, this is a Nike peg.
Speaker 1: But that's a beautiful ship. But the colors it was
Speaker 1: not in design. Had about this half paraff mare. It
Speaker 1: was not a disaster, but it wasn't the day before.
Speaker 1: Can I say you can qualify? Yeah, but it's kind
Speaker 1: of a setup, like I want to run New York
Speaker 1: for next year. When I was going to do it,
Speaker 1: I was going to run, and there's a lottery oreger
Speaker 1: to do charity. But if you can run, if you
Speaker 1: have coming in a certain time, on a certain course
Speaker 1: and the half or the fold, then you can just
Speaker 1: bypass that negotiation. I did secure that, but I thought
Speaker 1: I might be a little bit faster yesterday I could
Speaker 1: tell how much faster did you want to be? What was? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I ran one nineteen fifteen. I thought that, um, I
Speaker 1: could run my pr from you know ten years ago
Speaker 1: is one fourteen flat. I knew I wasn't in that shape,
Speaker 1: but from workouts I thought I thought that there was
Speaker 1: a world where maybe I would run splits to run,
Speaker 1: like I would go out of like what's your split
Speaker 1: for for one nineteen fifteen? It's like six or two?
Speaker 1: That's crazy? But I but I really felt like from
Speaker 1: workouts that I could run fifties honestly, and so I
Speaker 1: went out hard, probably too hard because I get older,
Speaker 1: but just never wiser, and I have this and I
Speaker 1: guess I have this thing. I could just tell after
Speaker 1: like three miles I was run, I was on pace
Speaker 1: to run like maybe in the lower one teams, but
Speaker 1: I just knew. I was like, this hurts more than
Speaker 1: it You're like, I'm going to really I have to
Speaker 1: back off. And then also the court. I found the
Speaker 1: course to be very difficult and the last three miles
Speaker 1: were all like because of hills, hills, and there's also
Speaker 1: two separate hairpin turns where you have stopped running in
Speaker 1: the start, so whatever, whatever. Anyways, these ssues were made
Speaker 1: by Barroman Track Club, which is a disgrace. It's my
Speaker 1: favorite training club and running team, but it's been disgraced
Speaker 1: because there um top female competitor tested positive for an angela.
Speaker 1: Do you know where I found myself the other day
Speaker 1: not the other day like a couple of months ago
Speaker 1: when I did think of you and myself as a teen. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was at Saville Running Company and I was just
Speaker 1: like a dinner next door. They have a road race
Speaker 1: in the winter, in the dead of winter called that's
Speaker 1: a ten mile or I'm gonna do And it's really
Speaker 1: what it's like the Saville Running Company run to the
Speaker 1: Brewer or something. I think they've done it for years. Yes,
Speaker 1: I got fifth placed in the lab. For years I
Speaker 1: was fifth, Ben, did you know that I won the
Speaker 1: ice slipped, not the marathon, the five kally I would
Speaker 1: think I was a junior. You know they used to
Speaker 1: have an Entimans five k down. Um, did you get
Speaker 1: a cookie at the end? I don't know. I have
Speaker 1: to start. It was in base Horse. That's why your
Speaker 1: words I'm doing tonight at home, we're actually exercising together tonight.
Speaker 1: What are you doing? We're doing the peloton Cody rixby
Speaker 1: talk show. Oh that's very fine. But one is the
Speaker 1: guest that I'm sort of in the audience doing a bit.
Speaker 1: I watched him on Dancing with That with that. Well,
Speaker 1: you know who's killing her right now? Angela? Oh, yes,
Speaker 1: I will watch for her. I think she might have
Speaker 1: because I saw that she was trending, but I haven't
Speaker 1: watched the whole season. But she's a dancer. Yeah, she's fab.
Speaker 1: She's so great. But I always put on one person
Speaker 1: who's like Julia, celebrity dancer who came to him. Julian
Speaker 1: Huff is competing again. I wonder how this against like
Speaker 1: Carol Baskan's like, yeah, I think you might. I think
Speaker 1: you might beat Carol Baskan and that's something that you need.
Speaker 1: And then yeah, I think you can probably have that. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And Bristol Paler, Oh my god, I remember that Palin
Speaker 1: from being on Teen mom O g and I gave
Speaker 1: her a really fair chance. And that's how far we've fallen.
Speaker 1: When they laughed after the election. Right after the election,
Speaker 1: it was like after it was in Farr when they
Speaker 1: finally came to Farr and they said, Farah, you need
Speaker 1: to choose between adult films and the show. We can't
Speaker 1: have you do both. And Paras said, and I think
Speaker 1: she rightly said, well, this is my life. You're trying
Speaker 1: to document the stories of teen moms. Well this is
Speaker 1: something going to make money. And she, of course, you know,
Speaker 1: didn't choose the most eloquent words when she did say
Speaker 1: that to the producer. I think she did kind of
Speaker 1: push the producer. But they ended up having two part
Speaker 1: ways with Farah, and they brought in two girls, Yanne
Speaker 1: for who I've been on UM Are You the One?
Speaker 1: And Bristol. Bristol didn't work out. She was just not
Speaker 1: additive to the show. And Shyanne is still on it
Speaker 1: and she does have her child's father is I think
Speaker 1: one of the hottest members of MTV the Challenge Corey.
Speaker 1: Look up Corey from the Challenge. She's so freaking hot.
Speaker 1: I think every Challenge contestant aggressive, straight energy and even
Speaker 1: when there's a gig going on there and they're like
Speaker 1: lowering their voice to fit in. Still in the Year
Speaker 1: of Our Lord. Almost like if you think Johnny Bananas
Speaker 1: can't suck me, if he wants, you're wrong. If he wants,
Speaker 1: he's still against all I was doing these things. I
Speaker 1: know he won last season. He won last Let me
Speaker 1: tell you something. The asson suits back in the day
Speaker 1: crazy if you want to talk about a bubble but
Speaker 1: aabam baby was but I don't remember it. But I
Speaker 1: mean Johnny has an unbelievable butt And there is a
Speaker 1: sex video out there. What yeah, I gotta check it out.
Speaker 1: Have you ever watched Aussi from Survivors sex stuff? Because
Speaker 1: he has the only fans. I'm a subscriber, I'm not active. Okay,
Speaker 1: then you're not gonna Well, you haven't seen him accomplish
Speaker 1: amazing feats of physicality. It's kind of why I've seen
Speaker 1: him climate tree. Yeah, but I don't know. But yeah, okay, fine,
Speaker 1: you've painting me into a corner. I admit that it's
Speaker 1: cool that he can climate tree, but I just don't
Speaker 1: feel sexual. You know what I was thinking about the
Speaker 1: other day that you girls appreciate I've seen her at
Speaker 1: this moment. I wanted to find it on like whatever
Speaker 1: episode was in in Micronesia and like post it and
Speaker 1: be like she was so real for this. And it's
Speaker 1: just that moment when Azzi comes up to party when
Speaker 1: they realize that parties turned and like maybe she just
Speaker 1: voted James out or something. Either I forgot who she
Speaker 1: vote it up first, all James or Assie, but the
Speaker 1: other was Aussie first. And then she has the conversation
Speaker 1: with James James considering sex, who you gonna bring to
Speaker 1: the end, and she turns and she says, girls so good,
Speaker 1: so good. Party was mother for that? I think she
Speaker 1: has her hands on her just goes kind of stressed. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: girls so cool, so you guys need to we need
Speaker 1: to get back together. Um. Poverty and Amanda Amanda. They
Speaker 1: I think they're not connected. They're not connected, but I
Speaker 1: will say Poverty follows Amanda. Amanda doesn't follow up Poverty
Speaker 1: of a couple of years ago. They both followed the
Speaker 1: rees to repolic both. Yeah. Is the is the glue? Yeah?
Speaker 1: And then recently there was like on the reddits, there
Speaker 1: was that Poverty actually nominated Amanda for their Survivor Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame because you could, I guess recently, recently, within
Speaker 1: the last couple of years, I think Amanda deserves that.
Speaker 1: That was an era of Survivor where Amanda was a
Speaker 1: main character. Oh that was that. That was the golden era.
Speaker 1: She was the star of China to me, Yes, she was.
Speaker 1: The way she flopped at the final tribal council, I
Speaker 1: was like, oh God. And then Micronesia like kind of
Speaker 1: same thing. Yeah, she really gets gunshot at the travel councils.
Speaker 1: But she was a start of China, and then Surree
Speaker 1: was the star of Micronusia. Poverty was the star of
Speaker 1: Heroes Filons. Yeah. Well, if I had my druthers, it
Speaker 1: would have been Amanda wins China Surrey wins Micronesia, Parverty
Speaker 1: wins Heroes versus Filling. Yeah, why did they do that
Speaker 1: with Micronesia? By they foxed every over in that way,
Speaker 1: they knew she would win. But I think they wanted
Speaker 1: I think they wanted it to be more of a compensation,
Speaker 1: but not you mean like because I don't mean like, yeah,
Speaker 1: why they from I think the producers. I think the
Speaker 1: producers knew it would be a Surrey landslide. But okay, good, good,
Speaker 1: I think. But I also think the producers were produced
Speaker 1: were also edited wanted to edit a Parverty win. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I remember because I watched Micronesia actually kind of late,
Speaker 1: and I already knew a lot of the things that happened,
Speaker 1: and I went I remember going and watching me like
Speaker 1: this is going to be a carnation for poverty, and
Speaker 1: I remember being like, oh no, this is a Surree season.
Speaker 1: Like the last minute, yeah, I think that they all
Speaker 1: played probably equally good games and then it was just yeah.
Speaker 1: I think that I think the producers sort of made
Speaker 1: a decision about that, because otherwise why would they have
Speaker 1: done that. You're watching current? I am catching up. I
Speaker 1: just started. I think that this season is actually getting
Speaker 1: really bored. Okay, here's the thing. Jeff Probes needs to
Speaker 1: calm down and he needs to get but we also
Speaker 1: love him for that. I don't love him for that.
Speaker 1: I want to tell him to his face one day,
Speaker 1: I hope we'll hear it. I want to say, you know,
Speaker 1: you're ruining Survivor by the way, like that exactly that
Speaker 1: you know, by the way, I don't know if you
Speaker 1: carry you're ruining the show, you're ruining the game. The
Speaker 1: whole thing needs to take like a beta blocker's. First
Speaker 1: of all, go back to basics, go back to thirty
Speaker 1: nine days, which they definitely won't like four years Survivor
Speaker 1: Australia's fifty days. No, it's better for it no more
Speaker 1: starting with three tribes of like four people. It's like,
Speaker 1: that's not interesting or cool. I just think they're very
Speaker 1: clearly trying to save money. It's I get over a
Speaker 1: build a bridge and get ever at. I know, but
Speaker 1: like that's why, that's why twenty six days and there's
Speaker 1: so many fucking twists, Like they think that's what makes
Speaker 1: it interesting. It's not. And I would also say that
Speaker 1: it's almost like the Survivor cast members now are like
Speaker 1: watching Potomac Housewives too much and taking all because they're
Speaker 1: all so safe and concerned about just like I don't
Speaker 1: know there's happening. Yeah. So basically, Pat, this has been
Speaker 1: a wonderful episode, and we want to thank you. I
Speaker 1: want to thank you. We want to thank you for coming.
Speaker 1: The readers are so happy. I hope I gave anything
Speaker 1: you need to. Yeah, you know what a feeling. I
Speaker 1: know the feeling, but that feeling. Guess why. I was
Speaker 1: actually thinking the other day of how nervous I used
Speaker 1: to get before. I don't think Sony ear shows. I
Speaker 1: remember like like the culture were being so nervous, not
Speaker 1: the vibes were a little bit off that. Well, it's
Speaker 1: because it was compelling. One could no one could decide
Speaker 1: whether or not we were having fun or really competing
Speaker 1: on different sides of that. And I think that there
Speaker 1: was a flaw. Unfortunately, feelings were hurt and really I
Speaker 1: could tell I could see in some people's eyes that
Speaker 1: they were up. I just end up goeling like I
Speaker 1: was like, I'm gonna be bad. But like I was called,
Speaker 1: Danny Dunley, are sworn atything I did? Didn't you do?
Speaker 1: Kind of a twist in the game, like I was
Speaker 1: brought back into the I was released back into the game,
Speaker 1: and we love you, and we and every episode with
Speaker 1: the song nothing I've made it. Look, why did you