1 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:08,960 Speaker 1: The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:19,919 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This he's Talking Cowboys, 3 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:23,759 Speaker 1: screaming live from the Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the 4 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:39,240 Speaker 1: Star in Frisco. Says, Welcome into Talking Cowboys live from 5 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 1: the Star in Frisco. Rob Phillips and myself are here 6 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:47,639 Speaker 1: for Cowboys Training Camp twenty twenty, presented by American Airlines. 7 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 1: And then we're welcomed him by two who have played 8 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:52,880 Speaker 1: the game at the highest level. Our normal crew of HECKM. 9 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 1: Harrison and Isaiah stand back, our residence super Bowl champion. 10 00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 1: We are the Talking Cowboys crew as we get you 11 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 1: set for an hour worth of Dallas Cowboys coverage over 12 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 1: training camp here in twenty twenty, and really what is 13 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 1: probably one of the more storyline filled weeks of Cowboys 14 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 1: offseason into preseason so far. We've got live game action, 15 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:20,119 Speaker 1: actual hitting, Rob today's practice, and then of course Earl 16 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 1: Thomas news to talk about as he is now a 17 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:25,400 Speaker 1: free agent. We'll get to all of that coming up 18 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 1: in the next hour, but Rob I mentioned the live 19 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 1: practice and exactly what's been going on here at the 20 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:34,279 Speaker 1: Star as of wait, was there anything that really stood 21 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 1: out to you today before we get into some of 22 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: the Earl Thomas talk. Well, I didn't get to see 23 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 1: a whole lot because of the Earl Thomas talk. I 24 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 1: was socially distanced in the hallway trying to listen to 25 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 1: Jerry Jones on the fan and figure out what the 26 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 1: Cowboys want to do with ET. But you're right, they're 27 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 1: starting to ramp up a little bit, and I believe 28 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 1: they're just now getting through their installation period, which you 29 00:01:56,800 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 1: think about how compressed this camp is. You normally installation 30 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:04,559 Speaker 1: offense defense in the spring, so they're trying to do that. Now, 31 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 1: review it the next couple of days, and then we've 32 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 1: got what looks like a scrimmage on Sunday at at 33 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: and T Stadium, and then we'll start to see more 34 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 1: of the live stuff and really see these guys compete. 35 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 1: It's getting excited. It is getting exciting, and you're starting 36 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 1: to see some of the hits. I know previously on 37 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 1: some Talking Cowboys Isaiah and Heckman, both of you mentioned 38 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 1: how important it was for Layton Vandersch to get that 39 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: first hit after his neck injury. Well he got it 40 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:34,919 Speaker 1: to and flatten Tony Pollard on a run he wasn't 41 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 1: supposed to be a See what it was is he 42 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 1: laid the hammer on Tony Pollard. But let's go into 43 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 1: some of this Earl Thomas news. We'll get to plenty 44 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 1: of practice later on here in the show. But Isaiah, 45 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 1: this is a former teammate of years who's kind of 46 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 1: going through some times in his career where it's a 47 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 1: really a turning point. Of course, he was in Seattle 48 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 1: for the majority of the start of his career. That's 49 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 1: where YouTube played together. He was then traded over to 50 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:05,839 Speaker 1: Baltimore for what was a huge deal where he ended 51 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 1: up signing with the Ravens and playing only a year 52 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:12,919 Speaker 1: there before he was cut earlier this week. The biggest 53 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:15,359 Speaker 1: question mark now is where does he go from here? 54 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: Is he somebody that Cowboys could potentially go after? But 55 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 1: I want to hear first count of somebody who's played 56 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 1: with you want on your football team. Absolutely. Earl Thomas 57 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 1: and myself we played together his rookie year, him and 58 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 1: Camp Chances actually back when the legion boom was was 59 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 1: nice and it was fire back home in Seattle. But 60 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: I played with him my rookie year, and I can 61 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: tell you guys firsthand, this is one of the most competitive, 62 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 1: hard working, loyal, dedicated individuals that you guys could ever 63 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 1: hope for to be on your team. Over over his 64 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 1: past few years, he's went through a lot, right, And 65 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 1: I don't make excuses for anybody, but you take somebody, 66 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: you think about the characteristic of somebody like that, who 67 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 1: works hard, who gets everything to organization, who puts it 68 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 1: all out there in terms of, you know, being great 69 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: teammates and a loyal and then all of a sudden 70 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 1: for Seattle to kind of do them the way that 71 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 1: he did them, he was hurt, right, So you saw 72 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 1: a kind of his exit after he got hurt. Right, 73 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 1: he was mad the whole middle finger thing he was. 74 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 1: He was he was deeply hurt because he had he 75 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 1: was fully committed to that organization and he didn't feel 76 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 1: like they were committed to him. So that he leaves there, right, Um, 77 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:24,840 Speaker 1: he goes to a whole new team. He goes out there, 78 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:27,719 Speaker 1: he does what Earl does, right, he balls out. But 79 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 1: then he has some issues obviously off the field, and 80 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 1: then in terms of his latest thing, it sounds like 81 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 1: it was almost an excuse just to get rid of them. 82 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna be rid with you. It sounds like 83 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: it was almost an excuse just to get rid of them. 84 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: We all don't know what was going on internally within 85 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 1: that organization, but I can tell you, guys what this 86 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 1: It sounds like the Gallboys have a great opportunity to 87 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 1: get one of the greatest players in the league for 88 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 1: a discount. Double check. You heard it here, first discount, 89 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:56,279 Speaker 1: double check. Earl's gonna bring the fire. I can tell you, guys, 90 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 1: he's working his tail off at home. I bet you 91 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 1: he probably goes on the toilet with a him. That's 92 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 1: how serious this dude is. I been playing ball. That's 93 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 1: the line of the day. Nobody can shop that one. No, 94 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 1: we might as want to just go ahead and cut 95 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 1: it out. We might as well just end the show 96 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:15,919 Speaker 1: because nothing can top with Isaiah just said. But I 97 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 1: kind of want to take something that Isaiah just said. 98 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:21,159 Speaker 1: He's one of the greatest defensive players in the league 99 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 1: right now. Is that still true? Is this still the 100 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 1: same player that we were, at least as Cowboys fans 101 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:30,839 Speaker 1: were looking at last year as a guy who is 102 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:35,280 Speaker 1: an instant game changer on the defensive side of the football. Man, 103 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna start off what I have to say with 104 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 1: saying et phone home, we need you. It's not even 105 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:44,039 Speaker 1: the question of what Earl Thomas brings to this team. 106 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:47,040 Speaker 1: If you just go if you've ever been in a 107 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 1: meeting room and you're looking at the depth chart and 108 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 1: you have guys lined up, a seventy percent of Earl 109 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 1: Thomas gives you more than what you have right now. 110 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 1: And that's not a disc to these other guys. You're 111 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 1: looking at the NFL All decade, an NFL All decade guy, 112 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 1: guy that has thirty interceptions. What he's gonna bring to 113 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 1: the Cowboys, please bring to the Cowboys. It's gonna be 114 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:14,280 Speaker 1: a guy that we've heard. This word hybrid, interchangeable is 115 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:16,919 Speaker 1: another word that we're gonna add to the words of 116 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 1: twenty twenty. He gives you all of that. You can 117 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 1: play him anywhere. If you think about what we had 118 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:24,040 Speaker 1: with Chris Rashard last year, and that's why it made 119 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 1: it so attractive, because we played Cover three the majority 120 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:31,479 Speaker 1: of the time. But look, most NFL teams, they show 121 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 1: you Cover two and they play Cover three. That's what 122 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:37,040 Speaker 1: they want to do anyway. And this is a guy 123 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:39,479 Speaker 1: that you can disguise all of your looks. And I 124 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 1: have to say this as well, if you sign Earl Thomas, 125 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:46,799 Speaker 1: what that's gonna do is nullify the injury to Gerald 126 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 1: McCoy because of all the things that you can do 127 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 1: on the back half of your defense. That is just 128 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 1: something that we have to look at as a team 129 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 1: because he's gonna make us that much better. Rob, do 130 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 1: you agree while Isaiah said about being a great teammate, 131 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 1: that's really good to hear because I think the biggest 132 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 1: question people were asking, maybe the Cowboys were asking too, 133 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 1: is is how the locker room would fit with Earl 134 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 1: coming in because of what happened in Baltimore and because 135 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: the reports are the players decided, players were part of 136 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 1: that discussion that you know he needed to move on. 137 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 1: So you know, but we've got to play a former 138 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 1: player right here that says he's a great team I 139 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: think that's important to factor in. And you know, the 140 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 1: Cowboys have done their homework on Earl Thomas before. I mean, 141 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 1: he was a free agent a year ago. There was 142 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:36,679 Speaker 1: a trade speculation before that. Chris Rochard has heck mentioned 143 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: been here for two years. They have an idea of 144 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 1: what kind of player and what kind of person is. 145 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 1: We all know what kind of player he is for 146 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 1: sure on the field, and I you know what Jerry 147 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 1: said on the fan not closing the door. It leads 148 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 1: me to believe there's still some discussion going on internally 149 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 1: on what kind of fit would be on the field 150 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 1: off the field. And the other thing about it, too 151 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 1: is what I don't think it makes a good business 152 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 1: sense to come out and say on on on public radio, 153 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 1: Hey we're not interested in somebody. You always keep your 154 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 1: options open. They're in the middle of padded practices at 155 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 1: training camp. Even if you're maybe leading in the other direction, 156 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: Guys can get hurt, things can happen, and your your 157 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 1: needs can definitely change on a dime. So I think 158 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 1: we just all have to stay tuned on this one 159 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 1: and Rob before Kyle comes in. I know he's about 160 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 1: to come in on us, but I want to just 161 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 1: ask this question as if we were all playing GM. 162 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 1: Let's all play GM, all right, if you have some 163 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 1: If you have money, first of all, which we now 164 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 1: have right because McCoy's gone, right and we had the 165 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 1: injury waiver, so there's money there, and you have one 166 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:39,559 Speaker 1: of the best players, not even it's not even a 167 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 1: question in the league, right, and you have him available 168 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 1: at a position that you're trying to fit somebody into. 169 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 1: Why would you not take this opportunity when he's only 170 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 1: had one stop where he had an issue with somebody, 171 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 1: and that's obviously with the Ravens, right right right, Why 172 00:08:57,320 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 1: would you not You're a go ahead. Heck, it's not 173 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 1: even a question. It's not. Don't I really don't. I 174 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 1: don't understand where people are coming from when they say that, oh, 175 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 1: this guy had he's a problem in your locker room. 176 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 1: Maybe he was a problem for the Ravens. I don't 177 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 1: know what their culture is like. And I know I 178 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 1: respect the heck out of Ozzie Smith, Ozzie all of 179 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:22,440 Speaker 1: those guys and knew some excuse me, Obsie knew him 180 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 1: in Baltimore. I think he's one of the greatest of 181 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 1: his time. But you have to understand that sometimes when 182 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 1: a guy wants out of a situation, he may do 183 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 1: everything in his power to try and get out of 184 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:37,679 Speaker 1: that situation. Hey, I've been in some bad relationships where 185 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 1: I've done a lot of things to get out, and 186 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 1: I'll make it your idea. And the Baltimore Ravens just 187 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 1: made Hey, we gotta get rid of you. We have 188 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 1: to get you out of town. And it doesn't look 189 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 1: good as far as the esthetics of it to hear 190 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:53,680 Speaker 1: the leadership counsel when to management to say that we 191 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:55,680 Speaker 1: have to get rid of this guy because he's toxic 192 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 1: in the locker room. But I'm not gonna use that 193 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 1: as an indictment. On a ten. You're a veteran who 194 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:05,719 Speaker 1: has played at the highest level his entire career, and 195 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 1: then you and then you factor in the fact that 196 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:10,680 Speaker 1: you you have a team right now that is still 197 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 1: a relatively young team and he has thirteen playoff games 198 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 1: under his belt. That's that's a that's ten more than 199 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 1: Dak and that's eight more or six more than Haha has. 200 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 1: And this is a veteran guy that tells you the 201 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:28,199 Speaker 1: kind of experience that he has, it's going to help 202 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 1: you later in the system and deep into that playoff run. 203 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 1: I claim in it, and I'm telling you he's the 204 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 1: guy for it. And how many Super Bowl rings do 205 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 1: we have on that side of the ball. Oh my god, 206 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 1: not a zero. We don't have nothing on that kind 207 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 1: of the ball. I'm just gonna have everboded any value there. 208 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 1: I just just wondering. Zero. One of the biggest things 209 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:54,560 Speaker 1: to me whenever it comes to the Earl Thomas signing 210 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 1: is whether or not he fits football wise? Does he 211 00:10:57,160 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 1: really fit what the Cowboys want to do. I know, 212 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 1: understandingly we're getting it from a former teammate. He's saying 213 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 1: that he is good in the locker room. But just 214 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:07,440 Speaker 1: like Jerry said in his interview with one h five 215 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 1: point three the Fan today, was this is something that 216 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 1: it has to go with what we're doing. It has 217 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 1: to go with exactly what we have at safety. That's 218 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 1: what it has to go with it. Because but Mike 219 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:22,959 Speaker 1: McCarthy kind of answered that question indirectly when he said 220 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 1: the other day that the safeties are interchangeable. So if 221 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 1: that's the case, he can play anywhere. And I think 222 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 1: we know he can play anywhere anyway. You guys make 223 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:33,680 Speaker 1: a compelling case. I mean, I'm just saying what the 224 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 1: reports are out of Baltimore. I don't know Earl Thomas 225 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:37,680 Speaker 1: at all. I'm just saying that's what's out there. But 226 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:42,199 Speaker 1: you know, from a perspective of what this defense needs, 227 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:45,079 Speaker 1: they need takeaways, he can do that. He's got thirty 228 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 1: career interceptions. The other thing is too that jumped out 229 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 1: and in and Jerry didn't speak to this, but Jerry's 230 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 1: got a long memory. Right ninety two, they needed one 231 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 1: more piece to win the Super Bowl, and it was 232 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:00,959 Speaker 1: it was Charles Haley. It was one missing piece. And 233 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:04,319 Speaker 1: the Cowboys are built. They have built this team to win. Now, 234 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 1: you do not hire Mike McCarthy if you don't think 235 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 1: you're close. You would hire a younger coach and try 236 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:11,319 Speaker 1: to rebuild. So I wonder how much is that is 237 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 1: the thinking, like, are we really just one piece away 238 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 1: defensively from from getting this thing done? Right? Right? Hey, 239 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 1: let me ask you this qua this question. If you're 240 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 1: coming off of the domessy violence stuff that Earl has, right, 241 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 1: there's no question going back into a locker room setting 242 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 1: understanding what you just came off of, you're going to 243 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 1: get clowned. You're gonna get clowned. Right, we all know 244 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 1: the situation. We don't have to dive into it. You're 245 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:36,320 Speaker 1: gonna people are gonna talk about it, laughing about you. 246 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 1: Every little joke's gonna be about you. When you're in practice, 247 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:41,200 Speaker 1: You're gonna it's gonna get heated. And let me let 248 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 1: me just in case people don't know, there is a 249 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 1: fight every single day in training camp, at every training camp. 250 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:49,680 Speaker 1: You guys don't hear about it. If you guys don't 251 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 1: see it, but somebody's getting their haid and taking off 252 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 1: and somebody's getting punched every day. Okay, So if that happens, 253 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 1: So that's what I said, it's kind of a scapego. 254 00:12:57,640 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 1: So I don't know what's going on in the locker room. 255 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 1: But what I do know is Earl Thomas. As we 256 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 1: look at our secondary that we have right now, he 257 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 1: would be the only name that you would need to 258 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:10,320 Speaker 1: know every time you come to the secondary. You need 259 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 1: to know where he's out on the field. As we 260 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 1: stand right now, there's nobody that's that threatening in the 261 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 1: secondary now. You have to know where they're at as 262 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 1: a defensive I mean, as an offensive players, as a quarterback, 263 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 1: when you sat up to the line of scrimmage, you 264 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 1: better identify where the hit Earl Thomas is at. And 265 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 1: that's where he provides to his team. And the other 266 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 1: part about what Earl Thomas provides if you look at yourself, 267 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 1: if you look at your rookie Diggs, and let's just 268 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 1: say the Cowboys coaching staff that saying when loser draw, 269 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:39,680 Speaker 1: he's going to be our first day guy, Earl Thomas 270 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 1: behind Diggs. Oh my god. It gives that rookie just 271 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 1: the opportunity to trust his eyes on everything that's in 272 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 1: front of him because Earl Thomas would have his whole back. 273 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 1: This is a situation where if you bring Earl Thomas 274 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:57,679 Speaker 1: the air that that puts you in in the NFL, 275 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 1: I mean the San Francisco forty nine ers, the other 276 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 1: other like the Tampa Bay defenses, Dallas would be right 277 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 1: there as far as championship level defenses. On paper, all 278 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 1: I'm saying is that it to me, it sounds like 279 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 1: the Cowboys are in a win win situation with a 280 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 1: guy who's already gonna get ten million dollars from another 281 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 1: team of as far as their cap it, and so 282 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 1: his bank account is on Charlie West. You gotta sign him. 283 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 1: That's that's he's gonna happen. You do bring up the 284 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 1: financial component of it, though, and we don't know, you know, 285 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 1: how much money the Ravens are gonna get from him 286 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 1: based on you know, there's gonna be a grievance probably 287 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 1: and they're gonna try to say it was violation of 288 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 1: team rules or whatever and try so it may change 289 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 1: what he wants from a team. However, I will say this, 290 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 1: if this is the place he's always wanted to be 291 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 1: running up to Jason Garrett said, come get me, he's 292 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 1: you know, if he comes here, then he's gonna do 293 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 1: what I would imagine, whatever he needs to do to 294 00:14:56,840 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 1: be fit in. So discount a check. I to tell 295 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 1: you when Earl's happy, right, Earl was a leader of that. 296 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 1: When you guys talk about the legion of Boom, who 297 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 1: do you think head at that up? We hear, we 298 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 1: hear about Richard Sherman all the time. But seeing this internally, 299 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 1: if these guys were Kim Cam Chancellor, Richard Sherman, right Brown, 300 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 1: or all those guys, Earl would be the one that 301 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 1: would call those guys together and say, hey, we're going 302 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 1: here to work out. Earl would be the one that say, hey, 303 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 1: come over and let's we'll watch the film in my house. 304 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 1: That was Earl. So that's why you saw him so 305 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 1: angry when he left Seattle and how he left, because 306 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 1: he did he did that. He was the founding father 307 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 1: of that of the legion of boom. So I'm just 308 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 1: saying it right here. If they miss on this, they 309 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 1: will regretted. They will regret it because that is the 310 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 1: only missing piece. They have a great defensive line, they 311 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 1: have a great linebacker corps. They need somebody who's an 312 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 1: absolute dog in the secondary. And that's why we talk 313 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 1: about it so much, because we don't have a dog 314 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 1: in the secondary. Whether it was Jabal Adams or now 315 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 1: Earl Thomas, it's it's been a topic of conversation. But Isaiah, 316 00:15:57,800 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you right now, I'm not sold yet. 317 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 1: I'm not Honora Old Thomas on the acquisition. I want 318 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 1: to know. I want to have more information. I do, 319 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 1: I really do. I want to know exactly what went 320 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 1: on in Baltimore to the point where it's not worth 321 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 1: the risk anymore to me, because you've got the momentum 322 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 1: right now, even though the secondary, of course, you brought 323 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 1: in a guy. You brought in a veteran and haha, 324 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 1: Clinton Dick. So we're gonna talk about him at coming 325 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 1: up here in this next segment. But seemingly there's some 326 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 1: discontent there already. Would it just explode that discontent? That's 327 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 1: my question. Would that be something that could be a 328 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 1: trouble some move later on if you bring an explosive 329 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 1: guy like Earl Thomas, Hey, hey Kyle, let me let me, 330 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 1: let me, let me do this. There's there's been there's 331 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 1: been a there's been a lot of attention on Haha 332 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 1: Clinton Dix. He's a good pick up, no differencepec. He's 333 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 1: a good player. He's a good player. We're talking about 334 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 1: great player, right, So we're asking a good player in 335 00:16:56,960 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 1: Haha Clinton Dix to take the throne of being rate 336 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 1: and to be this magnificent leader all of a sudden 337 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 1: of all these young guys that are he surrounded around. Now, 338 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:09,440 Speaker 1: you take somebody like Earl who's already done this before, right, 339 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 1: name another secondary has been called legion of boom or 340 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:14,880 Speaker 1: anything of that in that category right when he helped 341 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:17,639 Speaker 1: heat created that. So you take somebody who was taking 342 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 1: leadership in that regard before and brought a whole youth, 343 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 1: a whole young group together before and made them super 344 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:25,679 Speaker 1: duper effective within the system they're working in. Oh and 345 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 1: by the way, you give him already a veteran safety 346 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:33,119 Speaker 1: to play Alongsidely, what are we even talking about? Well, 347 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 1: I think Thomas can I Tommy wearing a yellow jacket 348 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 1: one day, gold jacket exactly. Will Here's my question back 349 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:52,679 Speaker 1: to you, Yeah, Hm to be worth the risk? What 350 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 1: makes him so special to get to that point because 351 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 1: I'm not sold. He's the same player that was the 352 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 1: legion of boom that was back he went to the 353 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 1: promo last year what are you doing last year? What 354 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 1: are you last? And we all agreed that that probably 355 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 1: wasn't that the best thing? Man? They're not handed out 356 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 1: free tickets to Hawaii. I know they're not going to 357 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 1: Hawaiki anywere is not just a they don't give those 358 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 1: guys no. If you disregard Earl Thomas's Pro Bowl and 359 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 1: you better disregard Jalen Thomas, I mean j j Jalen 360 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 1: Janna Smiths. That the window. That's That's how I appreciate Kyle. 361 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:37,399 Speaker 1: Listen right now, right now on the defense, I can 362 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 1: tell you if Earl Thomas walked on this team right now, 363 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:43,919 Speaker 1: how ready will go down? He would be the most 364 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 1: feared player on his defense right now, right now, most 365 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 1: feared over Tank, Lawrence Everson, Griffin, Layton vander esh Absolutely, 366 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:54,159 Speaker 1: you know why I could you would chip on those 367 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:56,639 Speaker 1: you could chip on those guys. I could put an 368 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 1: extra tight end right there, and I could chip on 369 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:00,439 Speaker 1: those guys, and I can I could affect. I can, 370 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:03,120 Speaker 1: I can have an effect over how how productive they are. 371 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:06,359 Speaker 1: Earl's sitting back there looking at you running around. I 372 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 1: guarantee you Earl still runs a flour or four. Guarantee you, 373 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:11,159 Speaker 1: at the very least he's running four to three. I 374 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:12,879 Speaker 1: bet you if he fell off, he runs a four 375 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 1: or four now, and guess what He's going to run 376 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 1: around sideline the sideline and he's going to hit you 377 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:20,200 Speaker 1: in your chess cavity without any regard of his body. 378 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:23,680 Speaker 1: You need that, and you need that on your team. 379 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 1: We want that on our team because Earl Thomas is 380 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:29,159 Speaker 1: a scud missile from the free safety position and you 381 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 1: don't have that. Right now, you were talking about comparing 382 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:34,639 Speaker 1: apples to apples or ours however you want to put it. 383 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:37,879 Speaker 1: Earl Thomas is not none of that. He is a 384 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 1: whole other category. And so if we say, oh, father time, 385 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:44,360 Speaker 1: which is undefeated, has caught up with Earl Thomas and 386 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 1: he isn't what he was when he got started in 387 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 1: the NFL. Well, even at seventy percent, Kyle, He's better 388 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 1: than what we have and you cannot disregard that. Don't 389 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 1: talk yourself out of it. Don't let nobody trick us 390 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 1: out our spot right now. I made you all bored 391 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:04,120 Speaker 1: with this coast side it dog, don't do it. Talk 392 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:07,239 Speaker 1: to him. So if I if I hear this right, 393 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 1: Robin and Henck and obviously Kyle a rusty and washed 394 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:14,879 Speaker 1: up earl Thomas can still make the Pro Bowl? Is 395 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:17,399 Speaker 1: that what I'm hearing? He still made the Pro Bowl? 396 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:20,959 Speaker 1: Still did and and he had and you know, PF 397 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:23,640 Speaker 1: and the metrics guys said he had a good year. Still, 398 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 1: how many how many safeties going? I know, Rob, I 399 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 1: know you know how many safeties go to the Pro Bowl? 400 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 1: Just a couple? Right, Yeah, it's not a lot. Yeah, okay, 401 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 1: I was just gonna let that one sit for a 402 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:39,399 Speaker 1: little bit. Similar a little bit. I see exactly what 403 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 1: you guys are doing here. You're teaming up on me. 404 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 1: But I hear, how about no, No, you got to learn. 405 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 1: You got to learn, don't don't you do it take 406 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 1: for you to say yes? Number wise? And what would 407 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:03,159 Speaker 1: be that that definitive for a comment? I have no idea. 408 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:04,959 Speaker 1: I mean, I think Isaiah made a good point in 409 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 1: terms of they have space and I and look the 410 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:12,160 Speaker 1: Tyrant Smith restructure. I think that was more of a coincidence. 411 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 1: It happened to be the same the same day. I 412 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:18,200 Speaker 1: guess that he got cut from Baltimore, that they restructure 413 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:20,879 Speaker 1: Tyrant Smith here, But that does create more space. I 414 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 1: think they are looking towards twenty twenty one and the 415 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 1: potential of having to franchise dak possibly at thirty eight million, 416 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 1: but they do have cap space to do something. I look, 417 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 1: I mean these guys, Isaiah has swayed me. I think 418 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 1: I feel like in terms of what he can bring 419 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 1: on the field and the other thing. If you just 420 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 1: look at this big picture and we'll see what happens here. 421 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:43,639 Speaker 1: Obviously they have not reached out to him yet. But 422 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 1: Everson Griffin was just sitting out there, Seedee Lamb was 423 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:50,879 Speaker 1: just sitting there at seventeen in April. It's like the 424 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 1: stars are just aligned for the bastliest man. It's crazy. 425 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:57,640 Speaker 1: It's crazy. And Stephen even said in an interview last 426 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:01,479 Speaker 1: week where he was referred to the Everson Griffin signing, 427 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 1: and he said, we look at player acquisition to be 428 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 1: three hundred and sixty five days a year. However, we 429 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 1: didn't talk about Everson Griffin until after it was done. 430 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 1: There was no lead up. There was really no look 431 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:16,919 Speaker 1: into Everson Griffin. Sure Cowboys fans wanted him, but you 432 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 1: didn't hear You didn't see the smoke where the fire 433 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 1: was coming from. You didn't hear that from Cowboys camp 434 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 1: until it was done. So the fact that they're laying 435 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 1: low and the fact that Jerry says, hey, the door's 436 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 1: not closed on Earl Thomas yet, it doesn't mean it's happening, 437 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 1: but it doesn't mean it won't happen at the same time, 438 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 1: And just a reminder for all of you out there, 439 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:37,159 Speaker 1: safeties at least or across the board average in the 440 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 1: NFL make the second least about the money in their contracts, 441 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 1: only trailing tight ends. And that may even change because 442 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:45,680 Speaker 1: you see the contracts of Travis Kelsey, George Kittle in 443 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 1: a couple more to come. So safeties ultimately could be 444 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:52,199 Speaker 1: pretty cheap on the open market, and whenever you have 445 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:55,440 Speaker 1: a guy like Earl Thomas there may end up potentially 446 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 1: being that enticing for the Cowboys to make a signing. 447 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:01,879 Speaker 1: But we come back we'll talk more about this safety 448 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:05,159 Speaker 1: group because did haha Clinton Dix lose his starting spot 449 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:08,359 Speaker 1: even without the signing of Earl Thomas. We'll talk about 450 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 1: that and debate it next here on Talking Cowboys. 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Oh okay, it looks like it looks like 484 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,959 Speaker 1: we have lost Kyle and we're gonna trying to get 485 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 1: We're gonna get through this guy's because Kyle Yeoman's is 486 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,879 Speaker 1: in the studio and he's supposed to have the best 487 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 1: WiFi in the world, but he is the one guy 488 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,439 Speaker 1: that cannot find the connection. What guys in this segment, 489 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:49,879 Speaker 1: we had talked about doing a stock up and stopped 490 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 1: down and we started this what do you think, Rob, 491 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:55,680 Speaker 1: maybe ten or so episodes ago where we were saying, 492 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:58,359 Speaker 1: whose guys, what guys stopped would be up at this 493 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:01,679 Speaker 1: point or down at this point? Up and so a 494 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 1: couple of the names and one of the names are 495 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 1: gonna we're gonna throw out is stock up stock down 496 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:11,680 Speaker 1: on Haha, Clinton Dixon, Rob, I'll start with you, Well, 497 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:13,680 Speaker 1: if Earl Thomas is on his way to town at 498 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 1: some point, definitely down right and that now, and there's 499 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 1: obviously there's restrictions of what we can say about practice obviously, 500 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 1: Darry and Thompson though, is off to a really good 501 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 1: start in training camp and he's part of that rotation. 502 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy was very complimentary of what he's been able 503 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 1: to do. And really that Thompson that goes back to 504 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:35,239 Speaker 1: when Jason Garrett was head coached. He told us, you know, 505 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:39,440 Speaker 1: he's a really sharp safety in terms of getting guys 506 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:44,119 Speaker 1: lined up and making sound decisions back there. I'm surprised 507 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,400 Speaker 1: about Hah a little bit early just because of his 508 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 1: history with McCarthy, But so yeah, I would say down 509 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:52,479 Speaker 1: a little bit right now, just because the Cowboys are 510 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 1: at least exploring options at the safety position, and I 511 00:26:55,520 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 1: think Xavier Woods a spot at free safety secure. Yeah, 512 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go ahead and say stock down a little 513 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:05,879 Speaker 1: bit as well. Um, for a couple of reasons. The 514 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 1: fact that you're you're hearing in some of these younger guys, um, 515 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 1: you know, kind of get in the rotation. But at 516 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:13,880 Speaker 1: the same time, he's a vet, right, and you want 517 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,119 Speaker 1: to always take care of your vets, um you and 518 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 1: you know physically, so you want to make sure that 519 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:19,959 Speaker 1: they take some reps off, especially with they're not being 520 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 1: any preseason games, to go out there um and kind 521 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 1: of get get a sense of what's going on. So 522 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:26,200 Speaker 1: you kind of want to give those guys a breather. 523 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 1: So I don't want to put too much weight on 524 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:31,160 Speaker 1: what's going on in terms of the rotation at practice. 525 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,239 Speaker 1: If Earl does show up, I don't see that as 526 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 1: too much of a stock down either, Rob. I do 527 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 1: see that more of as a complimentary position there. I 528 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:41,679 Speaker 1: think you. I think you automatically have two veterans in 529 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:43,919 Speaker 1: there that would that would play really well off of 530 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 1: each other. And one thing is it's not one position 531 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:49,880 Speaker 1: that's going to be asked to do more than the other. 532 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,159 Speaker 1: In that regard, they would just be a compliment to 533 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 1: each other. So I think his stock is down right 534 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 1: now just because nobody can see him play and nobody 535 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 1: can see him practice and you're hearing. All you're hearing 536 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 1: is the rotation is going through. But overall he's a event. 537 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:03,399 Speaker 1: I think he would be perfectly fine. If anything, these 538 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,880 Speaker 1: young guys are gonna bring that competitive aspect back down 539 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:10,159 Speaker 1: of him as a veteran. You know, he Isaiah, you 540 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,399 Speaker 1: bring up a great point because I'll say, from watching 541 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 1: in practice, I haven't seen Haha struggled really necessarily at all. 542 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 1: And there are a lot of rotations going on right now. 543 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,359 Speaker 1: I mean, I've we've seen a lot of change at 544 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:25,359 Speaker 1: the defensive line, offensive line. I saw Blake Jarwin at 545 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:28,200 Speaker 1: one point working with backups and then he's right back in. 546 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 1: They're getting a look at a lot of different guys. 547 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,479 Speaker 1: So I mean point, and I have to think about it. 548 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:36,439 Speaker 1: We don't have a preseason. We don't have the preseason, right, 549 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 1: So if you don't have preseason games and you can't 550 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 1: see what guys like in different situations, the only thing 551 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 1: that you have is practice. So you gotta cycle guys 552 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:45,959 Speaker 1: through to see how they're gonna respond. You got to 553 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 1: see how guys are going to react to different situations 554 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 1: and all those things. So not not stressing at all. Yeah, Chris, 555 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 1: you got him new too, Mike, he did it, he 556 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 1: did it, he did it. We're hearing everything double time. 557 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 1: But I would say, for me, stock up on Haha. 558 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 1: And the reason I say that is because we haven't 559 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 1: had any preseason games. Look, because of COVID nineteen, it 560 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 1: is presented a different layer for how you evaluate players. 561 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 1: And I just feel as though that experience that Haha 562 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 1: has is evaluable to this team. When we look at 563 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 1: Worldly at the veteran cornerback, everyone is talking about the 564 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 1: value add that he brings with his experience. I think 565 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 1: Haha brings that as well. And I think you want 566 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 1: to evaluate all of these guys because you don't have 567 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 1: any preseason games. So Lenny Thompson run with the ones. 568 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 1: I believe that it's smart. But at the same time, 569 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 1: I don't think that because of that that says that 570 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:48,440 Speaker 1: you know, this guy is no good. Agreed, Mike, Mike McCarthy. 571 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 1: If there's anyone that knows what he has in that 572 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 1: particular player, it's Mike McCarthy. Now, I did hear we 573 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 1: had Kyle back, but I don't hear him, did you 574 00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 1: guys here? I don't see him or hearing you know, 575 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 1: you know, fell off his internet because the football guys 576 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 1: were so disrespected by what he said earlier in the 577 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 1: show about Earl then they just they just canceled his 578 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 1: whole internet over there at the Star. And I'm not 579 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 1: sure he even meant it either. Yeah no, but but 580 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 1: yeah no, I mean in terms of how how guys, 581 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 1: I think he'll be perfectly fine. So I said stock down, 582 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 1: But I'm going ahead and say flatline because you don't 583 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 1: need your events to having a bunch of reps at practice. 584 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 1: You know what they're gonna be capable of doing whenever 585 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 1: one week one shows up. Now the next player that 586 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 1: we had on stock up stock down, and you would 587 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,719 Speaker 1: you would probably say that his stock is down because 588 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 1: Ceedee Lamb is putting on a show every day. Everything 589 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 1: I hear on Twitter from what the rookie is doing is, 590 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 1: oh my god, he did a some assault and caught 591 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 1: the ball. And Almari Cooper amar Amari Cooper is also 592 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 1: seeming is informed at camp as well. But Michael Gallup, 593 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 1: which you say, Michael Gallup is a stock up or 594 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 1: as he is stock down guy, Isaiah, you're the resident 595 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 1: wide receiver, so we'll start with you. I think gallup 596 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 1: stock is up. I mean, why wouldn't it be. I mean, 597 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 1: he has two other guys to playoff of. I don't 598 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 1: think there's any question that he's still probably number two 599 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 1: out there, So, I mean, he still has a speed 600 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 1: as far as as far as I'm concerned, as far 601 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 1: as I've known about him right now, I have been 602 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:21,480 Speaker 1: able to see practice, But I don't see a reason 603 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 1: why his stock would be down right now. If anything, 604 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 1: he's gonna have more one on one opportunities going into 605 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 1: this season. If CD's anything like I'm like the reports 606 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 1: are stating, then somebody's gonna have to cover him. They're 607 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 1: gonna have to bring a number three in to cover him, 608 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 1: whether he's in a slot or outside. Somebody that's respectable 609 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 1: is gonna have to cover this dude, and what does 610 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 1: that lead Gallabat. You could talk about all these other receivers, 611 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 1: Cooping and Guy and CD all you want to give 612 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 1: me your third guy, I'll take your third guy all 613 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 1: day long. He's gonna blow right by him, absolutely, Rob 614 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 1: stock Up, stock Up. Yeah, CD's gotten all the headlines 615 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 1: and look rightfully, so Amari has just been I think 616 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 1: with Amari, Amari is just a Mari. You expect it 617 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 1: from him and he's not outspoken, but he just gets 618 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 1: the job done. But Gallops made his share of plays too. 619 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 1: Dak had a beautiful back shoulder throw to him for 620 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:12,480 Speaker 1: a touchdown yesterday. I think he's arguably the most explosive 621 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,480 Speaker 1: wide receiver they have, you know, getting to top speed 622 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 1: and separating from from DB's he's been productive. And the 623 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 1: other thing Adam Henry wide receivers coach spoke about it 624 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 1: the other day with us, those top three guys have 625 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 1: really started to bond they. You know, Amari has said 626 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 1: he's an open book for CD, and I think it 627 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 1: goes the same with Gallup. I think those three are 628 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:38,400 Speaker 1: really building their chemistry and the only thing Gallup needs 629 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 1: for me is just cut down some of those drops. 630 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:42,960 Speaker 1: Last year he had some of those drops that he 631 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 1: blamed himself for. If he can do that, he's the 632 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 1: sky's the limit for him. I think he's really got 633 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 1: a chance to be a Paro Bowl receiver. It just 634 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 1: comes down to the amount of touches you can get 635 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:58,720 Speaker 1: in this offense. Yeah, Michael Gallup has got to be 636 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 1: tickled with that rookie, with the signing of Ceedee Lamb 637 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,400 Speaker 1: and knowing the kind of dog that he has and 638 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 1: Amari Cooper. The word is getting out to the rest 639 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 1: of the NFL what Ceedee Lamb is doing in camp, 640 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:14,520 Speaker 1: and all that does is that make That's gonna make 641 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 1: defense is the heightened sense of awareness of where these 642 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 1: two guys are nineteen and eighty eight. Maybe, just maybe 643 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 1: people are gonna say, oh, Michael Gallup, we can leave 644 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:25,880 Speaker 1: you one on one with one of our slot guys. 645 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:29,480 Speaker 1: And that's where Michael Gallup starts to eat. So all 646 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:31,760 Speaker 1: of the talking and he wants to probably stay as 647 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 1: quiet as he possibly can. But the rest of the NFL, 648 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 1: not knowing schematically how the Cowboys are gonna line up. 649 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 1: I'm saying, I'm saying stock up for Michael Gallup. But 650 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,400 Speaker 1: as far as our next player, and I think this 651 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 1: is very interesting because as far as this seat the 652 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:56,880 Speaker 1: cornerback group, everyone is hearing the word on a Woozier 653 00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 1: in some of these plays that he's making in camp, 654 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 1: Rob you had to write up about him about a 655 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 1: Woozier stock up, stock down on Cheetah, stock up, stock up. 656 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:12,520 Speaker 1: He has been you know, I think the most encouraging 657 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 1: thing about practice so far for me, beyond the defensive line, 658 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:19,160 Speaker 1: is you see different dbs step up every single day. 659 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 1: You know, it's been Anthony Brown some days, Dry Walley 660 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:24,960 Speaker 1: has been productive pretty much every day, it seems like, 661 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:28,840 Speaker 1: and Cheeto's writing a mixed two now. I think he 662 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:32,080 Speaker 1: was limited today in practice, didn't do much after what 663 00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,799 Speaker 1: appeared to be kind of strain in his leg in 664 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:39,319 Speaker 1: practice yesterday, but he was flying around before that, had 665 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:44,279 Speaker 1: had a leaping interception and team drills on Dak in 666 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,760 Speaker 1: a two minute situation where the offense needed a field 667 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:48,719 Speaker 1: goal to go win the game. He's been like that 668 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,799 Speaker 1: throughoute camp. He's been competitive against these top receivers. And 669 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 1: I asked Mike Nolan, new defensive coordinator, about it. A 670 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,399 Speaker 1: couple of days ago, and he said, look, they liked 671 00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:00,160 Speaker 1: their numbers there and the fact we just mentioned out 672 00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 1: going against these wide receivers day today is going to 673 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,920 Speaker 1: make all the dbs better. And I think Cheeto's been 674 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 1: really good so far. Rob. I'm back by the way, 675 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:10,480 Speaker 1: and I want to kind of go off of the 676 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 1: point that you just made, because that was something I 677 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 1: was really thinking about today, was you see the growth 678 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:19,480 Speaker 1: in trey Von Diggs. You see the growth and Anthony 679 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 1: Brown and what he's able to do with the DBS 680 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:25,040 Speaker 1: and in the slot. But I really think ultimately it's 681 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:30,040 Speaker 1: super encouraging to see Gallop and Amari and Ceedee Lamb 682 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:32,399 Speaker 1: had the success that they do because every time they 683 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:35,840 Speaker 1: make a spectacular grab, you know, those defensive backs are learning. 684 00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,719 Speaker 1: You know, those safeties are learning to come across and 685 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,319 Speaker 1: find a way to give you that help over the top. 686 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:45,640 Speaker 1: I think overall that's a super encouraging thing. And Isaiah, 687 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 1: I know you could probably play this as a wide 688 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:50,520 Speaker 1: receiver who's been through training camp. Was there any given 689 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:53,760 Speaker 1: take from the offensive side to the defensive side whenever 690 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:57,120 Speaker 1: there were plays like that? Heck yeah, we got into 691 00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:58,600 Speaker 1: it all the time. I mean, you gotta Remember we 692 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,880 Speaker 1: had a really way had Tarrell owens Um at the 693 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:06,880 Speaker 1: same time we had pac Man, Jones, Terence Newman, Orlando Scandred, 694 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:10,479 Speaker 1: Mike Jenkins. You know, so we had a very mouthy group, 695 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:13,279 Speaker 1: should I say, And you know it was always back 696 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,399 Speaker 1: and forth, you know, and you might during one on ones, 697 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:18,319 Speaker 1: especially even pre practice, right, somebody make a grab, you know, 698 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,400 Speaker 1: a guy start wolfing, you know, TiO talking to pac Man. 699 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:22,239 Speaker 1: Tell M I'll come back to the lot of scrimmage. Now, 700 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,640 Speaker 1: let's go right now, you know. So you get that 701 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:28,400 Speaker 1: back and forth and it's and it's um, it's highly competitive, 702 00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:32,719 Speaker 1: but it's so productive. It's so productive because what better 703 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:36,040 Speaker 1: setting to have the highest level of competition than in practice? 704 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,880 Speaker 1: Right then? In practice, That's why the more stacked up 705 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:43,080 Speaker 1: your your your roster is, the more the more depth 706 00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,680 Speaker 1: that you have at each position, the better the opposing 707 00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:48,719 Speaker 1: side of the ball gets because they get better every 708 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:52,239 Speaker 1: single rep. There's not such a drop off in talent. Right, 709 00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,600 Speaker 1: So when I take this, I take these skill sets 710 00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,080 Speaker 1: in these practice and I go to the game, guess 711 00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:00,000 Speaker 1: what I've already been facing the best that there is, right, 712 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,520 Speaker 1: there was something equivalent to it, right, So I'm prepared, 713 00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:05,560 Speaker 1: especially when there's no preseason, right, So these guys are 714 00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:08,280 Speaker 1: going to be in there battling every single day, Louisia 715 00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,239 Speaker 1: and all those other guys. It has to be the 716 00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:13,279 Speaker 1: most highly competitive group on our team. It has to be, 717 00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:15,920 Speaker 1: right because there's so many unknowns. So these guys are 718 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,239 Speaker 1: out there not only competing because of the guys on 719 00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:19,880 Speaker 1: the other side of the born in terms of Cooper 720 00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:22,640 Speaker 1: at CD in Gallant, but also because of the fact 721 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:25,560 Speaker 1: of guess what, we have a lot of depth and 722 00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:27,880 Speaker 1: if I want to play, I gotta show something every 723 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:29,799 Speaker 1: single day because I don't have a preseason to go 724 00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:31,399 Speaker 1: out there to show that I can ball. I gotta 725 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:33,439 Speaker 1: show it in his practice rips And by the way, 726 00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:35,960 Speaker 1: Trayvon Dicks, that was his best practice of camp so far. 727 00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:40,080 Speaker 1: One was everywhere today. Yeah, he had a couple pvus, 728 00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:42,800 Speaker 1: was in great position really all the way through. Looked 729 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:46,320 Speaker 1: comfortable in zone for the first time. I think yesterday 730 00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:48,480 Speaker 1: was really the first practice that I looked at him 731 00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:50,360 Speaker 1: and said, Okay, he looks comfortable. He looks like his 732 00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:54,320 Speaker 1: footworks there, his decision makings there, finally kind of finding 733 00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,960 Speaker 1: a groove for the rookie out of Alabama second round pick. 734 00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:59,920 Speaker 1: Now you talk about sink or swim, we kind of 735 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:03,080 Speaker 1: saw that last year whenever it was Tony Poler thrown 736 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,919 Speaker 1: into the mix with no Ezekiel Elliott at training camp. 737 00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:09,759 Speaker 1: He's our next stock up stock down because I want 738 00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:11,880 Speaker 1: to hear what you guys have to think about Tony Pollard, 739 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,799 Speaker 1: because seemingly from what we've heard from Kellen Moore, from 740 00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:18,560 Speaker 1: this offensive staff, from Skip Pete and really the entire 741 00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:21,200 Speaker 1: coaching staff is they want to get Tony Pollard involved, 742 00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:24,160 Speaker 1: not as a backup running back, but as an added weapon. 743 00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:27,320 Speaker 1: Robin start with you. Stock up, stock down for Tony 744 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:32,000 Speaker 1: Poler through camp so far stock up, I mean, I think, 745 00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:34,640 Speaker 1: you know, I think they have an opportunity and they 746 00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:38,120 Speaker 1: probably they should not Probably they should get him more involved. 747 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:41,080 Speaker 1: I think there's a way to get Zeke and Pollard involved, 748 00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:46,680 Speaker 1: sometimes together, sometimes spelling Zeke. Because we talked about versatility 749 00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:49,239 Speaker 1: on defense, Tony Pollard can give you a little bit 750 00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:52,080 Speaker 1: of everything on offense too, and Zeke's trying to do 751 00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:53,759 Speaker 1: the same thing as Zeke has proven he can do 752 00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:57,000 Speaker 1: it in terms of a pass catcher, a blocker, complete back. 753 00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:02,000 Speaker 1: Pollard gives Kellen Moore so any different options as a 754 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:05,640 Speaker 1: compliment to Elliott, and I think we've seen it in practice. 755 00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,400 Speaker 1: He's explosive. I think he has a better grasp on 756 00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:11,520 Speaker 1: the offense than he did last season. But you know, 757 00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:14,120 Speaker 1: I always when we talk about Tony Potter, I always 758 00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:16,360 Speaker 1: go back to what Isaiah said, There's just there's certain 759 00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:19,880 Speaker 1: guys that have so much talent, but you got to 760 00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,720 Speaker 1: find a role, You got to find certain snaps. And 761 00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:25,520 Speaker 1: I think the biggest thing that will help him is 762 00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:28,280 Speaker 1: if they're just a better overall team and they build 763 00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:30,879 Speaker 1: leads and they give more opportunities for him to get 764 00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:32,400 Speaker 1: in the game, because I think they were in a 765 00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:35,240 Speaker 1: lot of situations last year where they were in trailing 766 00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:39,879 Speaker 1: and trying to make make things up in the scoreboard. Yeah, 767 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:43,840 Speaker 1: rob so Ezekiel Elliott is no longer a spring chicken, 768 00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:47,400 Speaker 1: all right, I'll put it that way. We need to 769 00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,880 Speaker 1: take some reps off of him, right, You want to 770 00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:53,720 Speaker 1: preserve your number one running back. And I want everybody 771 00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,600 Speaker 1: to think back to when the Saints were absolutely bamming out. 772 00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:58,839 Speaker 1: They had two dogs back there, one by the name 773 00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:01,600 Speaker 1: of mark Ingram, one the name Alvin Kamara, and they 774 00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:05,360 Speaker 1: had two totally different styles of play, right, And it 775 00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:08,080 Speaker 1: really reminds me of those guys in terms of what 776 00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:11,640 Speaker 1: these guys have now here in Dallas, what availability they 777 00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:14,279 Speaker 1: have to them right now in the forum of Ezekiel Elliott, right, 778 00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:16,200 Speaker 1: and Tony Poler. You got a guy who's gonna be 779 00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:19,239 Speaker 1: your every down back, who he knows always gonna fall forward. Right, 780 00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:21,319 Speaker 1: He's not necessarily gonna run away from guys all the time, 781 00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:23,040 Speaker 1: but he's gonna give him. He's gonna gi him the hammer. 782 00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:24,759 Speaker 1: He's gonna give our first down, he's gonna give us 783 00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:26,520 Speaker 1: our first and second down efficiency. And then guess what, 784 00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:28,880 Speaker 1: then you bring in your curveball right, and all of 785 00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:30,440 Speaker 1: a sudden, you got to due name Poler, who can 786 00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:32,839 Speaker 1: obviously be your third down back. He could swing out, 787 00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,080 Speaker 1: he could run routes one on one on linebackers because 788 00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:37,120 Speaker 1: you're going to have one on one because you can't 789 00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:40,080 Speaker 1: play zone with these three receivers that you have out there. 790 00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:41,960 Speaker 1: Plus you got this dude named Jarwin. They can kind 791 00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:43,799 Speaker 1: of run a little bit fast super his position, So 792 00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:47,120 Speaker 1: you're gonna have man coverage from the running back position, 793 00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:50,799 Speaker 1: and how many linebackers can really cover running backs not 794 00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,720 Speaker 1: that many, So they're gonna include him as much as possible. 795 00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:55,279 Speaker 1: As we talked about in the pass on the show, 796 00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:57,960 Speaker 1: Zeke will get his screenplays, but Pauler is gonna get 797 00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,400 Speaker 1: worked in or. I think it's not only smart si antically, 798 00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:03,359 Speaker 1: but it's also smart in terms of persevering and bray 799 00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:06,680 Speaker 1: certain terms of preserving Ezekiel Elliott as you want him 800 00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:10,359 Speaker 1: to be on your team for the next six seven years. Now, Kyle, 801 00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:13,799 Speaker 1: you wrote a great article about Tony Pollard and him 802 00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:16,600 Speaker 1: just basically pointing out that he's in a better mental 803 00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:20,760 Speaker 1: space coming into coming into two a days simply because 804 00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:24,400 Speaker 1: he's more aware of what's being asked of him. It 805 00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:27,120 Speaker 1: sounded like to me, just cutting to the chase, I 806 00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:30,200 Speaker 1: know my plays now, you know, and as a rookie, 807 00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:32,839 Speaker 1: are those are some of the things that these guys 808 00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:35,319 Speaker 1: struggle with. It is just learning the playbook. And you 809 00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:37,920 Speaker 1: saw that from Tony Pollard. It's just some of those plays. 810 00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:39,239 Speaker 1: It looked like he was out there and he was 811 00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:42,120 Speaker 1: clueless asked to what to do. Guys, I'm on the 812 00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:44,080 Speaker 1: other end of this and this is stocked down, and 813 00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:47,920 Speaker 1: I'm saying stock down because I don't Yes, exactly. I'm 814 00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:51,040 Speaker 1: saying it because I don't want any rep that is 815 00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:53,960 Speaker 1: taken away from Ezekiel Elliott is a bad rep in 816 00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:57,000 Speaker 1: my In my opinion, I believe he's I believe he's 817 00:41:57,000 --> 00:42:01,319 Speaker 1: a generational talent. I believe he's kind of guy that 818 00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:05,799 Speaker 1: once he gets going and he's eating, you don't want 819 00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,319 Speaker 1: to stop that train. And so I just feel as 820 00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:11,840 Speaker 1: though the Cowboys have so many weapons you have to 821 00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:14,759 Speaker 1: fit Tony Pollard into it. But I don't think you 822 00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:19,000 Speaker 1: get Zeke out of rhythm just so that Tony Pollard 823 00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:21,120 Speaker 1: could get a rep. Now, Isaiah, look I have my 824 00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:24,799 Speaker 1: PhD and mama shop debate. So you're ready to do this, Well, 825 00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:27,919 Speaker 1: I'm ready for, I'm ready for. I'm not sure. Heck, 826 00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:30,720 Speaker 1: I know you're I know you're, you know, a football 827 00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,759 Speaker 1: minded individual. But this is thing that that they called 828 00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:35,840 Speaker 1: the split back. Have you heard of that. There's a 829 00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:37,359 Speaker 1: thing that they called a split back in and that's 830 00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:39,399 Speaker 1: where you have two running backs in the game at 831 00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:41,560 Speaker 1: one time. So if there's one running back that happens 832 00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:44,360 Speaker 1: to be as you say, eating, um, there's an opportunity 833 00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:46,239 Speaker 1: for you to now bring the second running back in 834 00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,319 Speaker 1: and go of split backs right, and then when you 835 00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:50,680 Speaker 1: go split backs, you may take Jarwin out and then 836 00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:54,359 Speaker 1: you still leave Ceedee, Lamb, Gallop and Cooper in the game. 837 00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:57,560 Speaker 1: So now you have your top three receiving individuals and 838 00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:59,719 Speaker 1: your top two runners in the game at the same 839 00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:02,359 Speaker 1: time with a guy named Dak Prescott wearing number four 840 00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:05,000 Speaker 1: at quarterbacks. So that's five weapons out there that that 841 00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:07,440 Speaker 1: defense really doesn't want to face. So you don't have 842 00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:09,360 Speaker 1: to take Zeke out of it. You can just simply 843 00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:12,680 Speaker 1: ad pollardated it to be a complimentary player. I'll go 844 00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:16,600 Speaker 1: with that. Anytime you're talking about complimentary to Ezekiel Elliott, 845 00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:19,439 Speaker 1: I'm all about it. All I'm saying is that this year, 846 00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:22,200 Speaker 1: it seems like all of the stars have a line 847 00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:25,960 Speaker 1: for Ezekiel Elliot. It finally, I finally will have another 848 00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:29,920 Speaker 1: solid breakout here, and I'm talking about fifteen sixteen hundred 849 00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:32,239 Speaker 1: yards is what I'm looking for. Yes, I said it. 850 00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:35,319 Speaker 1: I'm telling you I'm expecting that from him behind this 851 00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:39,719 Speaker 1: offensive line. What I said it, I've said, I'm here 852 00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:41,960 Speaker 1: for it. You and I You and I agree on 853 00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:44,560 Speaker 1: a lot of things, and this is not one of 854 00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:48,960 Speaker 1: those things. A little bit you're talking about you're talking 855 00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:52,960 Speaker 1: about stars aligning for Ezekiel Elliott to be a huntred 856 00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:57,799 Speaker 1: back and have fifteen or sixteen hundred yards sometimes aligning. 857 00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:01,600 Speaker 1: So Ezekiel Elliott does doesn't have to be the featuring 858 00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:05,560 Speaker 1: part of this offense. He can be a key cog. 859 00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:08,120 Speaker 1: He doesn't have to be the featured cog. He can 860 00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:10,640 Speaker 1: be his own person, and he can be his own 861 00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:14,839 Speaker 1: weapon along with Amari Cooper, Michael Gallup and so on 862 00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:17,880 Speaker 1: and so forth. I can completely disagree with you, and 863 00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:23,200 Speaker 1: I love you Hack They always you know this thousand percu. 864 00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:25,920 Speaker 1: I am not so sole. So what you're telling me 865 00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:29,440 Speaker 1: is you would rather have an eleven hundred thousand yard 866 00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:32,640 Speaker 1: eleven hundred yard Ezekiel Elliott with four to five hundred 867 00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:34,799 Speaker 1: yards in the playoffs leading up all the way through 868 00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,840 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, that a sixteen hundred yard Ezekiel Elliott 869 00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:39,120 Speaker 1: that gets out in the first round. Is that what 870 00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:43,960 Speaker 1: you're telling one hundred percent, I don't. He's not built 871 00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:45,960 Speaker 1: like that. He's not He's not built like that. And 872 00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:48,880 Speaker 1: the other part about it is Ezekiel is he's no, 873 00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:51,759 Speaker 1: He's built for this sixteen hundred yards. So you're saying 874 00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:58,480 Speaker 1: eleven hundred yards and and you put on top of 875 00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:00,759 Speaker 1: that the fact that he was under you utilize in 876 00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:04,160 Speaker 1: the passing game last year. Yes, Ezekiel Elliott is an 877 00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:08,720 Speaker 1: asset that you have to use, man always the NFL. 878 00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:11,520 Speaker 1: The NFL, you can have all the receivers for a 879 00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:13,640 Speaker 1: thousand yards you want, and you will be at home 880 00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:15,879 Speaker 1: if you have a running game and you can milk 881 00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:18,239 Speaker 1: that clock. Look man, and you have a defense that 882 00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:21,279 Speaker 1: you could run out there and get and create turnoffers. 883 00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:24,600 Speaker 1: There's no way you don't say, Ezekiel Elliott is our 884 00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:28,120 Speaker 1: bell pow running back and we're gonna ride him all 885 00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:30,799 Speaker 1: the way to Tampa. I said anything that takes them 886 00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:33,799 Speaker 1: all out of Ezekiel held Elliot's hands, I'm not with it. 887 00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:39,480 Speaker 1: Question question, um fellers, how many fifteen hundred yard running 888 00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:41,919 Speaker 1: backs have the Patriots had during their there in their run? 889 00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:47,600 Speaker 1: You did court, maybe Corey Dillon did it. How long 890 00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:51,000 Speaker 1: ago was that? Like? Fifteen years ago? Okay, So you're 891 00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:52,720 Speaker 1: saying that you don't have to have a fifteen hundred 892 00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:55,000 Speaker 1: yard running back in order to be successful in this league. 893 00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:57,319 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that that is a one that's a 894 00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:01,880 Speaker 1: prerequisite to winning a championship. Obvious. Kansas City doesn't have 895 00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:04,439 Speaker 1: a fifteen hundred yard rusher as well, but they don't 896 00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:08,280 Speaker 1: have Ezekiel Elliott. So let's not let's not put perched 897 00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:11,640 Speaker 1: Zeke up as though he's not the man that he is. 898 00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:14,080 Speaker 1: We're not We're not saying that, hey, we're saying that 899 00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:16,720 Speaker 1: you don't have to place those demands on him because 900 00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:20,200 Speaker 1: he has helped. He has help, So that has help. 901 00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:23,319 Speaker 1: Why would you not distribute that amongst everybody so that 902 00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:26,319 Speaker 1: everybody's healthier throughout the year, leading you all the way 903 00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:31,040 Speaker 1: up through a super Bowl, hopefully to Tampa man year. 904 00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:37,000 Speaker 1: Here's the thing about this, Here's here's the thing about 905 00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:41,000 Speaker 1: this debate. It's it's a This is exactly what coaches 906 00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:44,239 Speaker 1: dream about. This is what offensive consolutely dream about, is 907 00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:47,319 Speaker 1: having a debate on oh my gosh, which weapons do 908 00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:50,239 Speaker 1: we use? Oh? We we have so many guys that 909 00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:53,080 Speaker 1: could potentially go fifteen hundred yards or take us to 910 00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:57,279 Speaker 1: a super Bowl if they're healthy. That's a complete what 911 00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:02,120 Speaker 1: is It's go ahead, Kyle, let me ask you this. 912 00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:04,759 Speaker 1: And in a season where you have it, you're not 913 00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:08,040 Speaker 1: gonna have a preseason. The one thing that is constant 914 00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:12,240 Speaker 1: in your offense is you're running back, what is easier 915 00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:15,800 Speaker 1: to turn it around and handed the ball to Ezekielli. 916 00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:19,239 Speaker 1: He has something to prove this year. He was as 917 00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:23,000 Speaker 1: far as first down rushers, he was pretty last in 918 00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:25,279 Speaker 1: the NFL on first down and that had to do 919 00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:29,120 Speaker 1: with the lack of creativity in offense. Dude, we have 920 00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:31,399 Speaker 1: all of those weapons now. So if you have to 921 00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:34,840 Speaker 1: relegate to Amari Cooper and you have to relegate to 922 00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:37,880 Speaker 1: ceedee lamb, that extra man that you had in the 923 00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:40,759 Speaker 1: box last year, he's not gonna be there. So how 924 00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:43,799 Speaker 1: is that plan to turn around and handing the ball 925 00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:46,759 Speaker 1: to twenty one not the likely plan that's gonna get 926 00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:49,319 Speaker 1: you to the super Bowl or give you success. Well, 927 00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:52,200 Speaker 1: I think y'all both right. I think, like Isaiah said, 928 00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:54,719 Speaker 1: Pollard can take some of that off of him. So 929 00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:58,040 Speaker 1: it's a long season, right, But I also think there's 930 00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:01,480 Speaker 1: a better chance of Zeke getting fifteen yards than having 931 00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:04,200 Speaker 1: three one thousand yard receivers at least, that's what I think. 932 00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:07,239 Speaker 1: That's what I think a fan should probably hope for, 933 00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:10,880 Speaker 1: because what it means is you've got Zeke, like Heck said, 934 00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:14,440 Speaker 1: salting away games and wearing him down and finishing the 935 00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:16,319 Speaker 1: game off in the fourth quarter. He didn't get to 936 00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:18,600 Speaker 1: do that last year. I forget how many times it 937 00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:20,920 Speaker 1: was Dak threw over forty times in games. It was 938 00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:23,560 Speaker 1: like five or six times. That's way too much. You 939 00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:26,200 Speaker 1: need Dak. You need Dak having about I don't know, 940 00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:29,160 Speaker 1: twenty eight attempts something like that and be able to 941 00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:31,759 Speaker 1: pound your running backs. And I think if if you're 942 00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:34,080 Speaker 1: a good football team, I think Zeke's got a chance 943 00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:36,839 Speaker 1: to definitely get I think he had thirteen hundred last year. 944 00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:40,160 Speaker 1: I think he'd get the fifteen hundred. That's feetball one 945 00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:52,520 Speaker 1: on one. Oh no, they'll still stack you up. 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On our debates back and forth whether it 991 00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:46,600 Speaker 1: be Earl Thomas, is he a legit fit for the 992 00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:49,719 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys. Half of us think so half of us don't. 993 00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:53,399 Speaker 1: It's been a fun show to say the least. Heck 994 00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:56,120 Speaker 1: My Harrison, Isaiah stand back, Rob Phillips, I'm Kyle Yeoman's 995 00:51:56,160 --> 00:52:00,920 Speaker 1: here for talking Cowboys every Tuesday at eleven o'clock. And guys, 996 00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:02,719 Speaker 1: we were kind of talking about it in the break 997 00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:04,880 Speaker 1: a little bit. We're gonna talk about expectations here in 998 00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:07,320 Speaker 1: about four or five minutes before we close out the show. 999 00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:12,120 Speaker 1: But Isaiah brought up a fantastic point throughout the commercial 1000 00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:14,840 Speaker 1: break about Earl Thomas and some of the other teams 1001 00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:17,640 Speaker 1: that are interested in bringing in Earl Thomas. One of 1002 00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:19,920 Speaker 1: them is in your own state, the other ones in 1003 00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:22,080 Speaker 1: your own division. You've got the Houston Texans and the 1004 00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:26,080 Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles who have reportedly shown some interest in potentially 1005 00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:29,920 Speaker 1: signing Earl Thomas to a deal. And I don't know 1006 00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:32,200 Speaker 1: about you, guys, but that kind of makes me queasy 1007 00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:35,200 Speaker 1: thinking about Earl Thomas in an Eagle's uniform. And Isaiah, 1008 00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:37,040 Speaker 1: I know you talked about it as well. Rob. You 1009 00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:39,720 Speaker 1: even have an example of going back almost a decade 1010 00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:42,880 Speaker 1: of something very similar. But Isaiah will start with you, 1011 00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:46,240 Speaker 1: how much do you not want to see Earl Thomas 1012 00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:50,840 Speaker 1: in an Eagle's uniform. Listen up, I promise you Earl 1013 00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:54,240 Speaker 1: next to my boy I grew up with Nate Robinson. 1014 00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:57,480 Speaker 1: Earl Thomas is the most competitive individual that I have 1015 00:52:57,560 --> 00:53:01,000 Speaker 1: ever known in my life. And Earl, if Dick Dallas 1016 00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:03,840 Speaker 1: Cowboys don't sign him, if they elect to not sign 1017 00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:06,319 Speaker 1: him simply just off of I just don't feel like 1018 00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:10,200 Speaker 1: it right now, Earl will make the Cowboys life a living. 1019 00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:16,080 Speaker 1: He will come back and sign with Philly just so 1020 00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:18,879 Speaker 1: he can show up twice a year and hit your 1021 00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:22,040 Speaker 1: receivers in their chest as hard as he can. I 1022 00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:24,600 Speaker 1: promise you that's how competitive is. Due to this, and 1023 00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:27,200 Speaker 1: every time he goes to train, every time he goes 1024 00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:29,680 Speaker 1: to lift weights and take reps, he is going to 1025 00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:31,600 Speaker 1: have that dog on a helmet on. I don't care 1026 00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:35,320 Speaker 1: if he has. He is going to be thinking about 1027 00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:38,040 Speaker 1: the opportunity to run across the field and hits your 1028 00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:40,560 Speaker 1: favorite player in the chest. I'm just telling you, telling 1029 00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:43,920 Speaker 1: you that's act I said. Let me say this to you. 1030 00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:48,320 Speaker 1: Then if he does go to Philly, what Ezekiel Elliott 1031 00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:50,400 Speaker 1: will do will do what Henry did to him and 1032 00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:54,160 Speaker 1: turn him to a lead blocker. Oh the defensive play. Okay, 1033 00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:57,520 Speaker 1: that's what I'm telling you, don't hey, and guess what 1034 00:53:57,560 --> 00:53:59,560 Speaker 1: they both they both gonna be waking up then because 1035 00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:04,040 Speaker 1: I tell you what's coming in. That's what. If he 1036 00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:06,080 Speaker 1: goes to spite us has to be patty, then that's 1037 00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:07,880 Speaker 1: on him. But for me, I feel like if he 1038 00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:10,919 Speaker 1: doesn't come to Dallas, the I think the one place 1039 00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:14,200 Speaker 1: that he would land would be in Massachusetts with Billy. 1040 00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:17,000 Speaker 1: You know, that's the and that's the that's the place 1041 00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:19,920 Speaker 1: there no think about it. Since week since we've opened 1042 00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:22,200 Speaker 1: up the door for Philly. Let's talk about what you 1043 00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:24,640 Speaker 1: believe the Patriots would do they bringing in with the 1044 00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:28,000 Speaker 1: mccaudy brothers in lockdown stid. Yes, on the other side, 1045 00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:30,000 Speaker 1: what do you what do you think they're gonna do? 1046 00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:33,560 Speaker 1: That's a man? What's what's that gift of Belichick walking 1047 00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:36,080 Speaker 1: like with with purpose, like through the tunnel? You know 1048 00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:37,960 Speaker 1: that was that was a popular gift when they said 1049 00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:41,879 Speaker 1: Earl was getting released by Baltimore. Let h I don't 1050 00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:44,600 Speaker 1: know about maybe San Francisco could they. I don't know 1051 00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:47,480 Speaker 1: what the reports San San Francis, I would say, if 1052 00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:49,720 Speaker 1: I had to guess, Houston's have known because Billy o'brain 1053 00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:53,240 Speaker 1: haven't played for him in New England. His temper and earl, 1054 00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:55,360 Speaker 1: that's not gonna work well together. I can tell you 1055 00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:57,239 Speaker 1: that right now. They would get into it every single day, 1056 00:54:57,239 --> 00:54:59,919 Speaker 1: and that would be as volunteer apparently as the balls 1057 00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:03,319 Speaker 1: more was. But San Francisco the opportunity to go back 1058 00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:07,080 Speaker 1: and play with his boy Richard Sherman Alisabetter step up. 1059 00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:09,239 Speaker 1: I'm telling you you will see him again, whether it's 1060 00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:11,319 Speaker 1: twice a year, whether it's in the playoffs, You're gonna 1061 00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:15,040 Speaker 1: see this dude again if you don't sign him. So please, please, please, 1062 00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:19,160 Speaker 1: don't make this mistake. I'm apparently hearing them. McCarthy's kind 1063 00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:21,080 Speaker 1: of on it all right. He might be just you know, 1064 00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:23,960 Speaker 1: just playing you know politics, Jerry Jones. I know Jerry 1065 00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:26,799 Speaker 1: wants him. I know Jerry wants him. Go ahead and 1066 00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:29,400 Speaker 1: grab grab that pan, Jerry, and go ahead and sign up. 1067 00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:32,960 Speaker 1: You gotta do the Jerry impersonation, I say, while we're here, 1068 00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:42,719 Speaker 1: you don't huh oh no, I'm just saying this thing, 1069 00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:44,920 Speaker 1: and this is wild. This reminds me of twenty eleven 1070 00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:48,560 Speaker 1: after the lockout, when same thing, everybody just finally got 1071 00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:50,799 Speaker 1: together for practice in the summer. He was coming off 1072 00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:53,800 Speaker 1: the lockout. Free agency was happening at the same time, 1073 00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:57,000 Speaker 1: and awesome while was a guy the Cowboys were interested 1074 00:55:57,040 --> 00:55:58,799 Speaker 1: in as a free agent, same with Philly, and he 1075 00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:01,640 Speaker 1: wound up in Philly, and like Isaiah said that, I'm like, 1076 00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:09,000 Speaker 1: oh man, this is like deja vu. We'll see he yeah. 1077 00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:11,520 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm talking about Philly players right now, and 1078 00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:14,239 Speaker 1: it's something about is making me nauseous. I just you know, 1079 00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:18,040 Speaker 1: you know, Assawa was a guy that we definitely wanted. 1080 00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:20,760 Speaker 1: Philly paid way too much for him and we didn't. 1081 00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:22,279 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think that he would have made 1082 00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:25,799 Speaker 1: a bigger difference on our team dating back then. It's 1083 00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:27,560 Speaker 1: just the thing we need to pull the trigger on 1084 00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:30,479 Speaker 1: this guy, period. And looking over looking at the league, 1085 00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:33,920 Speaker 1: looking at the other safeties, but just talking about our roster, 1086 00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:37,320 Speaker 1: our depth chart. He adds a dimension to our defense 1087 00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:40,279 Speaker 1: that I don't believe that we have. And it's just 1088 00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:43,279 Speaker 1: it seems like he would be a natural fit. All 1089 00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:47,080 Speaker 1: of the pressure is on Earl. He's the one that 1090 00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:50,080 Speaker 1: has to dispel the myths and the rumors of him 1091 00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:53,160 Speaker 1: being a bad teammate. So this is the place that 1092 00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:55,040 Speaker 1: he wants to be He's gonna be on his best 1093 00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:58,040 Speaker 1: behavior in Dallas. Yeah, he has to be in And 1094 00:56:58,120 --> 00:57:00,359 Speaker 1: I think I don't know if all the pressures on Earle. 1095 00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:02,640 Speaker 1: I just think some of the pressures on Earle and 1096 00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:04,680 Speaker 1: whether or not he's going to come to Dallas, and 1097 00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:07,239 Speaker 1: if he doesn't, then where is that competitive edge going 1098 00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:09,520 Speaker 1: to go for him? But as we're running out of time, 1099 00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:12,160 Speaker 1: I do want to ask this question because we're seeing 1100 00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:15,239 Speaker 1: it in practice, Rob and I throughout the entirety of 1101 00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:19,680 Speaker 1: training camp. But it's the install it's the preparation for 1102 00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:23,000 Speaker 1: a new coaching staff without a preseason, and it has 1103 00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:26,240 Speaker 1: me a little nervous. But should there be any lowered 1104 00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:30,480 Speaker 1: expectations potentially a slow start to the season, even with 1105 00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:35,240 Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy potentially not having that lead in not having 1106 00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:39,320 Speaker 1: that preseason to really install a system moving forward, Rob, 1107 00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:43,720 Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy said no. He was asking about not a 1108 00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:45,280 Speaker 1: couple of days ago, and he said, I don't want 1109 00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:47,880 Speaker 1: to hear that crap. In so many words, he said, 1110 00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:49,720 Speaker 1: the expectations are to go win a title. That's what 1111 00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:52,000 Speaker 1: he was hired for, and that's what he said. The 1112 00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:56,840 Speaker 1: expectations are every team he's ever had. It is a challenge, 1113 00:57:56,880 --> 00:57:59,200 Speaker 1: but look, it's a challenge for all thirty two teams 1114 00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:02,680 Speaker 1: in the league. And I will say the number of 1115 00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:05,040 Speaker 1: the veterans they brought in I think will help the 1116 00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:07,400 Speaker 1: transition because you bring in guys that have done this 1117 00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:11,800 Speaker 1: for years and years and Everson Griffin, Poe, I think 1118 00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:14,200 Speaker 1: that helps. You're not relying on as many young guys, 1119 00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:17,040 Speaker 1: and I you know, I think they've got an opportunity 1120 00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:18,720 Speaker 1: to win a lot of football games because I think 1121 00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:24,120 Speaker 1: what they've done on defense in particular. Heckma, Yeah. The 1122 00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:27,320 Speaker 1: one thing about retaining Kelly Moore that really gives me 1123 00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:30,760 Speaker 1: confidence about our offense because the terminology is going to 1124 00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:32,680 Speaker 1: be the same, and I believe that he's going to 1125 00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:35,680 Speaker 1: be the voice between Dak and Mike McCarthy as far 1126 00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:39,160 Speaker 1: as Bridge and that terminology. So it's not I have 1127 00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:42,640 Speaker 1: no doubts about that. And I believe that Mike McCarthy 1128 00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:46,360 Speaker 1: has his heart in the right place by saying, look, Kellen, 1129 00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:48,959 Speaker 1: because of what's going on with the season, it would 1130 00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:50,960 Speaker 1: seem like it would be better for you to start 1131 00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:54,600 Speaker 1: things off. He's learning that offense in those terminologies as well, 1132 00:58:54,680 --> 00:59:00,480 Speaker 1: and he did express that at his pressor. Also, the 1133 00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:04,960 Speaker 1: expectation is championship. That's that's not even there's no question 1134 00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:07,760 Speaker 1: about it. There's you had. You brought veterans on this team, 1135 00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:09,880 Speaker 1: not because you want to build this team for the future. 1136 00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:11,840 Speaker 1: You brought veterans on this team because you want to 1137 00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:13,600 Speaker 1: dog on ring and it's been too long and you 1138 00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:15,800 Speaker 1: want that. You want that other you're tied up. You 1139 00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:18,080 Speaker 1: tied up. Another organization up in the Northeast have a 1140 00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:20,880 Speaker 1: more than you. So that's that's what the conversation is. 1141 00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:23,360 Speaker 1: Um the expectation. You brought in this amazing coach, but 1142 00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:25,000 Speaker 1: he hasn't. I don't even know how he has his 1143 00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:27,880 Speaker 1: staff together, but he has a ridiculous staff. You brought 1144 00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:30,440 Speaker 1: in veteran guys to play. You shot up your defense 1145 00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:32,840 Speaker 1: where you were lacking at you have you added another 1146 00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:35,800 Speaker 1: weapon on the offense. You retain the same officsive coordinator 1147 00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:38,120 Speaker 1: so that you have symmetry there and there's no learning curve. 1148 00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:41,240 Speaker 1: This team is set up to ball out, Go out, 1149 00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:43,560 Speaker 1: sign this dude another pro bowler to add on to 1150 00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:45,640 Speaker 1: your defense and secure this thing and let's go play 1151 00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:49,160 Speaker 1: some ball. I love it. I love it. And that's 1152 00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:52,840 Speaker 1: the best way to end this version of Talking Cowboys. 1153 00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:55,480 Speaker 1: As we are out of time, and before we let 1154 00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:57,200 Speaker 1: you go, I want to reminds you to go get 1155 00:59:57,240 --> 00:59:59,880 Speaker 1: your training camp coverage with a twenty twenty Dallas Cowboys 1156 01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:04,240 Speaker 1: our magazine Training Camp preview includes a scouting report, position battles, 1157 01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:07,120 Speaker 1: final roster projections, and so much more. You can go 1158 01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:10,080 Speaker 1: get your copy for four ninety five today at Dallas 1159 01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:13,840 Speaker 1: Cowboys dot Com slash star Boys. That was fun. How 1160 01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:16,240 Speaker 1: about a little bit of debate all the way through. 1161 01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:19,640 Speaker 1: We're going back and forth, We're getting heated, and this 1162 01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:23,120 Speaker 1: is football season. And now I'm so excited to go 1163 01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:25,600 Speaker 1: through a football season with you guys as a crew 1164 01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:28,280 Speaker 1: of Talking Cowboys. But for heck Ma Harrison, for Rob 1165 01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:31,680 Speaker 1: Phillips and the Super Bowl champion Isaiah standback, I'm Kyle 1166 01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:34,680 Speaker 1: Yeoman saying so long for this edition of Talking Cowboys. 1167 01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:40,040 Speaker 1: We'll see you next Tuesday. This has been a production 1168 01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:43,920 Speaker 1: of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.