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Speaker 1: Bo Bishop and Nathan Zegura.

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Speaker 2: I was so alive on a Tuesday edition of cleel

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Speaker 2: the Browns Daily.

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Speaker 3: I am merely Bo. He is the great z.

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Speaker 2: It's up brother out here, living out here, living.

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Speaker 4: I had a uh, we had basketball practice with third

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Speaker 4: graders last night and one of my favorite little dudes,

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Speaker 4: little Graham, he came in and.

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Speaker 3: He was warming up.

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Speaker 4: It's cold, it's freeze frigid, and he was in what

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Speaker 4: I would describe as an Elmer fudd hat. You would

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Speaker 4: also describe it as a I would say, Eddie and

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Speaker 4: Eddie from Prison's vacation type hat. And so he had

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Speaker 4: it on, and he's he's got a quirky little personality,

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Speaker 4: and so it wasn't surprised to see him. If I

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Speaker 4: was to think of someone who would be in it, it

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Speaker 4: would be him, that makes sense. And I said, buddy,

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Speaker 4: you can't practice in that hat. And he kind of

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Speaker 4: looked at me, and he goes uh and didn't say anything.

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Speaker 4: One of the coaches grabbed it and I said, I go, buddy,

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Speaker 4: that's an Elmer Fudd hat. And you could tell he

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Speaker 4: looked at me blankly, and I think he thought that

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Speaker 4: I was making fun of that. And I said, oh no, no, no,

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Speaker 4: Elmer Fudd is my guy. I'm big Elmer Fudd guy.

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Speaker 4: I love all those guys. I like Elmer Fudd, Yo,

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Speaker 4: Semity Sam. I always liked the Foil. I like the

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Speaker 4: foils as much as I like the heroes in those.

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Speaker 4: But the reason I'm telling you the story is to

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Speaker 4: tell you this. He very clearly had no idea who

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Speaker 4: Elmer Fudd was, which saddened me because I think that

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Speaker 4: I could put that series of cartoons up against any

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Speaker 4: series of cartoons ever for just pure entertainment value. So

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Speaker 4: the bugs, bunny tweety bird selvester all that I put

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Speaker 4: that up against anybody. You give me one catalog of cartoons,

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Speaker 4: give me that, you can have anything else.

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Speaker 5: It's just is there even a thing like the Saturday

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Speaker 5: Morning cartoons?

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Speaker 2: Is that even no? Because it's all on demand, their

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Speaker 2: whole life on demand.

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Speaker 4: So you'd have to have a parent who like, I

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Speaker 4: think it's available maybe on HBO or Max.

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Speaker 2: See. I think you need to go on Disney and

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Speaker 2: get him on the Gummy Bears.

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Speaker 5: What a cartoon you were Gummy Bears? Oh God, that's

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Speaker 5: bold even I don't eve think it's remotely. That's there's

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Speaker 5: no way you could make that. That that that's greater than

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Speaker 5: for a boy. For example, g I Joe a real

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Speaker 5: American hero. There was the one that was like, g

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Speaker 5: I Joe was unbelievable. Dude, g I Joe is good.

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Speaker 5: I was never a huge g I Joe guy. I

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Speaker 5: loved Heathcliff and the Alley Cats.

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Speaker 2: They were Heath Yeah, this is you and I divert here.

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Speaker 5: Heathcliff was an electric factory. He was NonStop entertainment.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna get here's your here's your Mount Rushmore childhood cartoons.

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Speaker 3: From from your uncle Bo.

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Speaker 5: Gummy Bears, you get me, Scooby Doo, Scooby do you

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Speaker 5: get me? He Man, you get me g I Joe,

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Speaker 5: and you get me Warner Brothers.

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Speaker 2: And I'm good. But when you say Warner Brothers, that's

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Speaker 2: that's that's that's too broad.

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Speaker 4: No Warner brother w B is that's bugs bunny. That's

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Speaker 4: I think it's called Melody Merry Melodies or something Yosemite,

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Speaker 4: Sam Bugs Bunny, that whole operation.

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Speaker 2: You give me those four? Those are my four, oh.

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Speaker 5: Man, all right, so I got gummy bears for sure.

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Speaker 5: I mean I was a huge Heathcliff in the Alley Cats.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if I've seen Heathcliff in the Alley Cats.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I know. Give me, I feel

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Speaker 2: Gibbe and Heathcliff would be homies.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely. It was like it was a poor man. It

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Speaker 3: was a poor man's Garfield.

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Speaker 2: But he was way cooler than Garfield.

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Speaker 3: Is he like in a beret? Or is that a

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Speaker 3: backwards hat? This guy?

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Speaker 6: No?

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Speaker 7: Is this it?

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Speaker 2: He's the orange one?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? This is that a backwards hat?

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Speaker 7: Or is that?

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Speaker 2: I have no comm I have no recollection of this,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Heathcliff was great. I gotta tell oh Yeah. Yes,

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Speaker 5: he was hysterical. He was hysterical. Scooby do you.

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Speaker 2: I'm with you. I'm with you on Scooby Doo.

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Speaker 3: Big.

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Speaker 5: I watch a lot of Scooby Doo and then the

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Speaker 5: other one. You know, when I'm thinking, like from my.

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Speaker 2: Childhood, Yeah, I'm not talking about.

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Speaker 5: So this is we're talking like best eighties cartoons, right

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Speaker 5: eighties into the nineties.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, you can watch Heathcliff on Paramount Plus.

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Speaker 3: There you go.

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Speaker 2: How about that. So I'm a little torn. There are

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Speaker 2: a few in here that I really enjoyed.

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Speaker 5: I he Man was great, obviously by the power of

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Speaker 5: Grace called Transformers.

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Speaker 2: Transformers had a strong run.

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Speaker 5: Okay, Inspector Gadget, I remember that, but it wasn't as

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Speaker 5: love Gadget.

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Speaker 2: Smurfs were also pretty darn solid.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, Vultron remember Voltron?

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Speaker 2: What oh man? Vultron was? Voltron was serious. Vol was great.

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Speaker 2: And then I love the Jetsons. Jets were fun. It's

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Speaker 2: like in the Jetsons would be on a zones.

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Speaker 4: Jenson's and Flintstones are on after school more than like

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Speaker 2: Okay, I mean they were really those are really really good.

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Speaker 2: G I Joe was great. ThunderCats. ThunderCats do I know that?

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah on Sunday mornings. Oh yeah, And my parents

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Speaker 3: were like, we gotta go to church. I'm like, not

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Speaker 3: before we watch the thunder Cats a little bit.

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Speaker 2: And then I gotta be honest with you, huge duct

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Speaker 2: tails guy, was great, but the task was about rushmar

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Speaker 2: You've just named Rooge. I pick four. All right, I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna take Heathcliffe off the Rushmore.

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Speaker 3: He's not a rule follower.

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Speaker 5: Gummy Bears, Gummy Bears, Scooby Doo, Jetson's, Flintstones.

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Speaker 2: Do I get them as like a package?

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Speaker 6: No?

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Speaker 4: What about oric ones? No w melody, Marry Melodies, I

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Speaker 4: think is what I'm talking about.

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Speaker 2: The bones.

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Speaker 3: That's it.

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Speaker 2: Looney Tunes, Mary Melody.

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Speaker 3: I think that's what it is.

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Speaker 4: It says on the thing, there's like a w B

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Speaker 4: and then it's his merry melodies. Yeah, Looney Tunes. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: that's bunny. It was the brain was bugs, all those guys.

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Speaker 2: What one remember?

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Speaker 5: We ended up looking up that one time and I

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Speaker 5: found it. But it was like a Japanese when it

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Speaker 5: was like battleships with lasers that were in space.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I do remember that.

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Speaker 3: That's a great one.

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Speaker 5: I'll go Gummy Bears, Scooby Doo, Jetson's, and then Ducktails.

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Speaker 3: I love ducktails, A little teenage mutant ninja turtles.

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Speaker 4: I was my brother loved them.

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Speaker 3: Schoolhouse Rock is it not allowed to talk?

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Speaker 5: Is school House Rock is that the Fragles, No thousa,

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Speaker 5: that was more I know, more Puppets.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was puppet game banned for the day for that.

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Speaker 4: That is Fragile rocked stuff that Yeah, yeah, good.

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Speaker 2: Fragile Rock was strong. We looked this one up before.

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Speaker 3: And I know I like the Muppets too, especially as

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Speaker 2: I really enjoyed Satler and Waldorf.

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Speaker 3: They needed their own show on like HBO, like really

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Speaker 3: critiquing movies there, and it would have been amazing.

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Speaker 5: They're the Muppet movies hold up incredibly well.

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Speaker 3: Amen to this day.

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Speaker 4: Like when if I can talk the boys into a

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Speaker 4: Muppet movie Star Blazers Star, I remember that. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 4: there was a time where this is the other thing

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Speaker 4: is we just got out of the Christmas season, is

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Speaker 4: like for us. I was trying to explain this to like,

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Speaker 4: uh NBC and Beams. I'm like, not at NBC's age,

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Speaker 4: but definitely at Beamsy's. In fifth grade, I still played

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Speaker 4: with toys. Yes, we still had g I Joe's. I

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Speaker 2: I had full on. See.

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Speaker 5: I also was I love medieval times, so Gummy Bears

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Speaker 5: has they got knights and all that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what that's true.

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Speaker 5: You did, so that's one of the reasons that I

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Speaker 5: really really liked it as well. But but they would

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Speaker 5: would merchandise.

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Speaker 4: You were definitely doing that still in fifth grade. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: there's a question I was doing that. Probably middle school

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Speaker 4: it started. Yeah, I was playing sports. I was that

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Speaker 5: Atari at that point, maybe a little bit. When the

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Speaker 4: A Sega master System which came first, which was a

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Speaker 4: real That was the one very disappointing Christmas when we

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Speaker 4: got the Sega Master System because we didn't know what

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Speaker 4: the Sega master System was. But your tongue, I'm getting there.

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Speaker 4: Eventually you realize that it was actually pretty good. Schanobi

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Speaker 4: was great. There's a lot of great games on it.

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Speaker 4: Action Fighter, Yeah, they had a lot of fighters. One

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Speaker 4: of the great games of art. But when you what

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Speaker 4: all you know is Mario, and you think you're going

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Speaker 4: what the hell is this, that's this is this is

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Speaker 4: not that I can't play Techmo this nineteen eighty six. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 4: so that's your fourth grade, fifth grade? Yeah, well for

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Speaker 4: yeah eighty six you're yeah, no, you're your.

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Speaker 2: Boots Yeah, your bootsies age. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: And that we haven't had we haven't gotten toys for

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Speaker 4: the like true toys for the kids.

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Speaker 3: In the years I still had a tari I was

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Speaker 3: playing Chopper Command of course or all.

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Speaker 2: That stuff's in the Tesla in the game stuff. All

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Speaker 2: those games are there.

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Speaker 5: There was a great Empire Strikes Back aut Tard game

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Speaker 5: where you got to be the like snow speeder.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, to take out the ad ads. I remember that. Ye,

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Speaker 2: that was good stuff.

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Speaker 3: That was very good.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was good.

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Speaker 4: It was anyway, so that it was I was like, well, yeah,

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Speaker 4: he wouldn't there was there would be no reference of that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, for the for the.

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Speaker 5: I have a question for you, go ahead, I asked earlier.

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Speaker 5: Is this is this week's episode of Hard Knocks. Is

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Speaker 5: tonight's the finale or are they going to carry like

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Speaker 5: the rape? I would love to see one more week

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Speaker 5: into the playoffs. I'd love to see Baltimore and Pittsburgh

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Speaker 5: prepare for this week. Yeah, and I'd love gameplay out.

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Speaker 5: I'd love to see that. I did not watch last weeks.

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Speaker 5: I was up to date up until the one last Tuesday. Well,

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Speaker 3: We can.

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Speaker 5: There was Jamis in the quarterback room and Christmas pajamas

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Speaker 2: That was it hard, that's it.

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Speaker 5: As if we did not play the Miami Dolphins, we

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Speaker 2: Of it at all. That was our kind.

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Speaker 4: Do you think that that was the choice of the

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Speaker 2: What did they do with Pittsburgh? Were they back seated

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Speaker 2: Very good question find out tonight at night.

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Speaker 5: Well, I mean it would seem to me that if

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Speaker 5: bigger story coming out of Andrew Berry's press conference than that, yes,

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Speaker 5: Shan Watson to suffer to set back in his recovery

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Speaker 5: that you wonder if there's any behind anything about that situation.

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Speaker 3: Good question.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so this is it though we have confirmed that

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Speaker 2: Okay, I think they should.

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Speaker 5: If you run a division and you at the division

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Speaker 2: Yeah, in the playoffs? Yeah, yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Maybe just the only thing I can think I'm sure

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Speaker 5: I even think it would be fascinating to see how,

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Speaker 5: the changes that were made?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 2: Yes, I mean think about Anna Rumo and Cincinnati.

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Speaker 4: Oh man, the Anarumo conversation had to be crazy because

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Speaker 4: the reporting coming out of there is like Burrow and the.

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Speaker 3: Defensive guys like Logan Wilson's guys like do not do

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Speaker 5: So is that is that gonna? I mean, this one,

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Speaker 4: This one would have the potential to be what hard

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Speaker 4: Knocks can be at its best when they have those

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Speaker 2: But those are with friends, guys.

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Speaker 4: These are conversations with the biggest stars in the game

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Speaker 3: Do to fix it.

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Speaker 4: That is the conversation you want to see, like Burrow

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Speaker 4: the conversation that Miles has had here. If you could

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Speaker 5: I don't think that would ever pass either. Of of course

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, you have two tremendous logos on today are

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Speaker 4: It's this, it's same. I didn't intend to I didn't

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Speaker 3: Be cut fresh helmet, and I know.

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Speaker 4: God, I don't have the pun them for that. You're

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Speaker 5: I can't get it. I don't know what to do.

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Speaker 5: So I got some things.

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Speaker 4: I got a story out, so anyway, grab that this

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Speaker 4: This is all from This is the alternate logo to

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Speaker 4: the primary logo, same place, Columbus, no Ohio somewhere Sharon.

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Speaker 2: Oh, that's Sharon.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they got this one right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a great one.

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Speaker 3: Why do they have what? I don't know. I guess

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Speaker 4: Well, I guess there's some sort of anniversary they did

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Speaker 5: The blue jay to buy eye to mine too.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Maybe you said it Bell, but this one is so great.

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Speaker 4: I don't know why you would, but I know that

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Speaker 2: No, seller jay's got more of them. Let me see that.

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Speaker 2: They're in Toronto. Yeah, they have that plumage and I

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Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, a couple other things we didn't get

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Speaker 4: to yesterday in regard to Andrewberry's press conference. Let's start

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Speaker 4: with we mentioned Biles. Here is ab On miles reaction

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Speaker 8: Let me say, in terms of Miles, my anticipation, expectation

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Speaker 5: And expect him to be here, you know, and retire.

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Speaker 5: Brown quite frankly, I like that line. Direct ticket, direct

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Speaker 5: connection Canton to Cleveland.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, there you go.

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Speaker 5: Yeah he's gonna be I mean, he said yesterday one

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Speaker 5: of the big things you're talking about from yesterday's press

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Speaker 5: conference was a man that can't believe it was only yesterday.

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Speaker 5: Part of it was the Deshaun piece, and then the

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Speaker 5: other part was this isn't a tear down. We are

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Speaker 4: The number two pick in the draft allows for a

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Speaker 4: lifeboat and a way to flip really quickly. Core competitiveness

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Speaker 4: asked the commanders this year, it's very easy. Now, what's interesting?

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Speaker 4: What's made this even a little bit more potentially unpredictable

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Speaker 4: he said that ahead of time. So the last night,

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Speaker 4: I want awesome show. Let's table that because I want

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Speaker 4: think there's a very fascinating media sports media stuff happening

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Speaker 2: Right at that time, s was over, Oh he's you

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he's as a shot out of a can be

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Speaker 5: attending the Natty when the Buck guys get there. He's

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Speaker 5: not going this week though, right, not this week. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: he's only saved himself for the bag. He said could

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Speaker 5: even potentially be going.

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Speaker 2: With the boys.

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Speaker 5: So we'll see how we got that works out for him.

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Speaker 5: But he had said he had it on good authority

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Speaker 5: that Drewe Aller.

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Speaker 2: Is going to enter the draft. I'm I'm just I'm

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Speaker 2: just don't know what.

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Speaker 4: His connections are to the Penn State program or those

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Speaker 4: closer people in Madina.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Here's what I would say if I were Drew Aller,

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Speaker 4: I would do the exact same thing that Cardile Jones

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Speaker 4: should have done, which is when you have player momentum strike,

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Speaker 4: Bobby Iron is hot strike. And the reality is that

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Speaker 4: and then then it's a decent golf to like mill

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Speaker 4: Row and then the darlings from a year ago which

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Speaker 4: were viewers and Carson Beck and all those guys, there's

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Speaker 4: an opportunity for you to go really high in this draft,

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Speaker 4: and if that's the.

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Speaker 3: Case, you need to go.

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Speaker 4: The only thing that's interesting those college guys now is

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Speaker 4: and Quiney Ears is going to be a great example

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Speaker 4: of this. Quinn Eers, for whatever reason, did not have

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Speaker 4: more staying in college and getting four or five million

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Speaker 4: if you are going to go, if you're but if

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Speaker 4: want to see how he plays against Notre Dame. He

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Speaker 4: played against SMU and Boise State. Well, he's and the

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Speaker 4: talent did not equate in those two games.

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Speaker 5: You're starting to get right with him though, You're starting

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Speaker 5: to get a lot of the oh, this is the

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Speaker 3: This is because of the last two weeks.

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Speaker 4: Nobody was talking about that going into the Big Ten

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Speaker 2: It's very similar.

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Speaker 4: It was very similar to what happened with Cardle, although

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Speaker 5: The only time I would say that I really heard

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Speaker 5: about him before in a big way before the last

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00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:19,320
Speaker 5: couple of weeks was I think we were talking about

445
00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:21,000
Speaker 5: they played in prime time.

446
00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:24,399
Speaker 3: And he made some crazy throw in there like that.

447
00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:25,800
Speaker 3: It's a signature.

448
00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:28,480
Speaker 4: Throw the Oregon game again in the Big Ten Championship,

449
00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:31,560
Speaker 4: so he's had three good games in a row before that.

450
00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:34,040
Speaker 4: There was before the Big Ten Championship, the lost to Oregon,

451
00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:37,760
Speaker 4: there was no conversation around him, and in fact, when

452
00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:40,040
Speaker 4: he said he's coming back, it was like, well, yeah,

453
00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:42,200
Speaker 4: where are you gonna go? I mean, that was the thought.

454
00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:44,960
Speaker 4: So a lot's changed in a month. But if I

455
00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:49,119
Speaker 4: were him and this continues to have positive momentum, I

456
00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:55,280
Speaker 4: reconsider and I'm gone, all right, here's ab this one

457
00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:57,560
Speaker 4: on Nick Chubb in his future with the organization.

458
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Speaker 8: I want to start by saying, I think everybody in

459
00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,040
Speaker 8: this room knows how much respect that we have for

460
00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:05,200
Speaker 8: Nick and how much appreciation we have for you, not

461
00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:07,920
Speaker 8: just like his his exploits on the field, but who

462
00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:09,399
Speaker 8: he is in the locker room and who he is

463
00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:12,199
Speaker 8: as a person. It's always a challenging situation when you

464
00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:14,520
Speaker 8: know one of your cornerstone players their contract is up.

465
00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:17,320
Speaker 8: That's probably maybe a little bit the different situation you know,

466
00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:20,040
Speaker 8: this year relative to you know, relative to last where

467
00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:22,280
Speaker 8: there is maybe perhaps a little bit you know, less

468
00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:24,280
Speaker 8: control on the club side with you know, with it,

469
00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:26,320
Speaker 8: you know, those are all decisions that we do have

470
00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:28,840
Speaker 8: to work through in the next several weeks. We love Nick.

471
00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,200
Speaker 8: He's going to be a Ring of Honor player for us,

472
00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:34,480
Speaker 8: and we know that in terms of the short term

473
00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:36,360
Speaker 8: that's something that quite honestly, we just have to work

474
00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:37,840
Speaker 8: through over the next several weeks.

475
00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:44,639
Speaker 5: There's a tone to that, an interesting tone to that. Yeah,

476
00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:47,480
Speaker 5: to be fair, and not in necessarily a bad way,

477
00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:49,680
Speaker 5: but it is I think it's a it's an interesting tone.

478
00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:54,040
Speaker 5: It's I don't know exactly how to read that. I

479
00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:57,400
Speaker 5: think everybody is of the same mindset in this building,

480
00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:00,359
Speaker 5: outside of this building, and in the case of the

481
00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:03,240
Speaker 5: player himself, that everybody wants see Nick Chubb finish his

482
00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:06,359
Speaker 5: career as a Cleveland Brown and I would have to

483
00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:09,560
Speaker 5: think that given the injury he was sustained a year ago,

484
00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:11,800
Speaker 5: given the fact that he then did not finish his

485
00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:14,639
Speaker 5: season with an injury and clearly was maybe getting back

486
00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:17,040
Speaker 5: in the direction of the player he used to be.

487
00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:18,760
Speaker 5: But I always thought it was a two year injury anyway.

488
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:20,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, same, So.

489
00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,160
Speaker 5: I'm not surprised that he wasn't. Oh Man, he looks

490
00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:24,359
Speaker 5: just like the Nick of old. I think if he

491
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:26,120
Speaker 5: is going to do that, it's going to be this year.

492
00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:30,159
Speaker 5: He's probably not going to have his robust to market

493
00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:33,919
Speaker 5: as Nick Chubb you would expect to have. And so

494
00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:35,600
Speaker 5: I would have to think that there's got to be

495
00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:38,680
Speaker 5: a number from the Brown side and from Nick Chubb's

496
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:40,760
Speaker 5: side that makes sense. And you come in and you say, Okay,

497
00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:45,680
Speaker 5: best case scenario, Nick Chubb is back to being Nick Chubb,

498
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:47,639
Speaker 5: and put make an incentive late in contract that if

499
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,520
Speaker 5: he's Nick Chubb again, he profits from that greatly and

500
00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:50,960
Speaker 5: we all do.

501
00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:52,720
Speaker 2: And then the probably the.

502
00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,679
Speaker 5: Other side of the spectrum where it's not he's not

503
00:23:56,920 --> 00:24:00,280
Speaker 5: that guy again. But I believe in him, no doubt.

504
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:01,720
Speaker 5: He's gonna do everything his power to be that guy.

505
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,280
Speaker 5: We've seen him come back from a catastrophic injury before.

506
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,520
Speaker 5: Is that maybe he's what Kareem Hunt was to you

507
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 5: two years ago, which is still an incredibly valuable piece.

508
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:11,879
Speaker 2: Drome Ford showed that.

509
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,600
Speaker 5: I think he can be certainly part of a rotation

510
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:16,840
Speaker 5: or a tandem and be effective in that role. The

511
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,760
Speaker 5: question is how big, how big does Nick Chubb's role

512
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:25,560
Speaker 5: get to be, need to be or should be based

513
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:27,640
Speaker 5: on where he is. If he's Nick Chubb again, he's

514
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:29,600
Speaker 5: Nick j we go, yeh ware we go. Now if

515
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:31,880
Speaker 5: he's not, I still think there's an incredibly valuable role

516
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:32,240
Speaker 5: for him.

517
00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:34,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think the the other factor of that

518
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,960
Speaker 4: is we do have another injury. Now this one isn't catastrophic,

519
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,239
Speaker 4: but now we have another injury that we sure you know,

520
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:42,760
Speaker 4: what does that look like whenever he gets back to it,

521
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,639
Speaker 4: So sure this isn't scores. I just I think that

522
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,800
Speaker 4: the organization, if there's a path to keep Nick Chubb

523
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:52,040
Speaker 4: a Cleveland Brown, that path will be explored and everything

524
00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,240
Speaker 4: will be done to make sure that that is the case. Yep,

525
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:57,520
Speaker 4: so ie per se, That's kind of the way that

526
00:24:57,720 --> 00:24:58,560
Speaker 4: I would read that one.

527
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:01,800
Speaker 5: It was not though, just listening to it did not

528
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:06,359
Speaker 5: necessarily feel as definitive as perhaps things that we have

529
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 5: heard a great in the past.

530
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 4: You also, we also have no idea Knick's state of mind, correct,

531
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 4: I mean a full year rehab and then lose another

532
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,679
Speaker 4: season to injury after not getting back to where you

533
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:21,960
Speaker 4: wanted to get to. So I we have no idea

534
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,879
Speaker 4: where where this haas that with any of this. Aby

535
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,640
Speaker 4: also addressed the tackle situation. Here were his thoughts on that.

536
00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:30,240
Speaker 8: Yeah, so maybe to start with Jed, it's probably like

537
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:33,040
Speaker 8: all of our players with expiring deals where you know,

538
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:34,320
Speaker 8: there's we've got to work.

539
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,280
Speaker 3: Through all of that in the next In the next several.

540
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,720
Speaker 8: Weeks with the wand we did feel like he was

541
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,720
Speaker 8: actually you know, hitting his stride before he got injured,

542
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 8: you know, middle of the year. It is funny because

543
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:45,840
Speaker 8: Kevin who was like, hey, you know, let's just kick

544
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:48,439
Speaker 8: him over to left tackle during one of the practice weeks,

545
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,199
Speaker 8: and then we had the injury. It was like, oh, well,

546
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:52,520
Speaker 8: I guess he's got to play the next week. It

547
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:54,360
Speaker 8: ended up being you know, pressy and if you if

548
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:56,760
Speaker 8: you speak and how that spot looks going into twenty

549
00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,480
Speaker 8: twenty five, it's probably too early, too early to tell,

550
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:00,879
Speaker 8: but we did feel like it was good to get

551
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:02,600
Speaker 8: him some game experience at that possession.

552
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 2: I'm a big Dwan Jones fan. He's got to stay healthy.

553
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:14,400
Speaker 5: I think certainly has flashed the potential to be a

554
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:16,679
Speaker 5: very very good tackle. I think that you have to

555
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 5: go into next season with him starting somewhere in pencil,

556
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 5: but you have also got to be prepared for because

557
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:27,400
Speaker 5: he hasn't been able to finish either of his first

558
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 5: two seasons.

559
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 2: And I think he's somebody.

560
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,320
Speaker 5: You know, they talked about those articles where how much

561
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,159
Speaker 5: he bonded with Rabel and how great that was, and

562
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:35,720
Speaker 5: he really started playing very well at the end. So

563
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 5: that to me, is going to be very important to

564
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:44,640
Speaker 5: having when we pick a new offensive line coach, somebody

565
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 5: that is very good and somebody that I think will

566
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,160
Speaker 5: be very good with Dewan because that is an unbelievable

567
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:53,400
Speaker 5: piece of clay, incredible talent, great kid, everything that you want,

568
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:54,679
Speaker 5: and you're gonna have to stay on him.

569
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:55,640
Speaker 2: You're gonna have to keep him.

570
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:57,600
Speaker 5: You know, he's gonna have to work hard, and I

571
00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:01,399
Speaker 5: know he will, but Dwan Jones his unlimited potential and

572
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 5: that could be a huge saving grace for this organization.

573
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 5: We've got to figure out how to keep him on

574
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 5: the field. And as long as he does stays on

575
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 5: the field, I think he's going.

576
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 3: To be very very good.

577
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 2: All Right, a couple other things.

578
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:17,679
Speaker 4: Let's do the Netflix conversation now, because the NFL dabbled

579
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 4: to Netflix at Christmas.

580
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:20,160
Speaker 2: It worked.

581
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:25,680
Speaker 4: This was a big experiment last night with raw. One

582
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:27,639
Speaker 4: thing that's cool about this Netflix model is and I

583
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 4: guess I could do it the other way too. I

584
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:30,879
Speaker 4: could have just TVRT it, but I'll just I'll be

585
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:32,880
Speaker 4: able to. You said, recommend me watching it with the boys.

586
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:34,720
Speaker 4: I think we'll watch it tonight. Yep, and give it

587
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 4: a watch. Find on Netflix and watch it. But of

588
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 4: course there's also the live element of it that they

589
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 4: got to be able to land the plane on. You

590
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 4: experienced it how to go. It's perfect.

591
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 5: And there's something about their cameras And I noticed that

592
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 5: when I was watching the football that are They're unbelievable.

593
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 5: They had a drone inside it into a dome that

594
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 5: would fly down from the top down into the room.

595
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 5: It just looked visually it was signing. That place looks

596
00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 5: like the most incredible arena in the world.

597
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 2: And it was a good show.

598
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 3: It was.

599
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 2: It was interesting though.

600
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 5: I thought the Rock came back and played it very straight,

601
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,119
Speaker 5: like good guy Rock when the last time we saw

602
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:12,440
Speaker 5: him he was the final Boss and he really didn't

603
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 5: get involved in a storyline, which is weird. I thought

604
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 5: for sure he was going to and that they set

605
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 5: up a thing where everybody watching it thought he would.

606
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,119
Speaker 2: But I thought I thought it.

607
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:24,400
Speaker 5: Was for sure gonna at the end the way I

608
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 5: think he's not wrestling at WrestleMania for whatever reason.

609
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,040
Speaker 2: I think if he was wrestling int WrestleMania, they would

610
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 2: have had him.

611
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:32,200
Speaker 5: You'll watch it and you'll see he had a chance

612
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 5: to go at Roman Reigns and did not, and in

613
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 5: a very wrestling way where it was, yeah, it would

614
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 5: have been perfect.

615
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 2: So I don't know. He was very much not in a.

616
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 5: It was just more kind of talking about the parts

617
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 5: ship with Netflix and you know TKO and he's you know.

618
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 2: A big big wig there and.

619
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 5: It was that part of his entry. But good show.

620
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 5: It was much more like watching a pay per view.

621
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:55,959
Speaker 5: They had all the celebrities from LA out there. They

622
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 5: were showing all them in the crowd. It was very

623
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 5: well done production avoid perfect good, perfect perfect, Yeah.

624
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 2: More and more.

625
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 4: I mean, obviously the Tyson thing didn't work out great,

626
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 4: but it seems like every other bar that they've tried

627
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 4: to go over, they've hurtled and passed, and.

628
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 5: Seems like they learned something from that because the NFL,

629
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 5: I'm curious see what the ratings for this are when

630
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 5: it's all right for the NFL, for raw, the NFL

631
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 5: games on there.

632
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 2: They said at one point, like a third of the

633
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 2: subscribers were.

634
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 4: I know, I know, like you open the app and

635
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 4: auto plays, Like, does that sure?

636
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 3: You know? I don't.

637
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 2: I don't even know what that means.

638
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 5: I can't say that I do either. I just I

639
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 5: know a lot of people are. And it's cool that

640
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 5: for the first time ever, you think about it, it's Netflix.

641
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 5: No matter where you were in the world, if you

642
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 5: had Netflix, you could watch it, Yeah, at the same

643
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 5: time live as anybody else anywhere else.

644
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 2: Allows for the true global nature of it totally.

645
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 5: So there was some in the commentary they're kind of

646
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 5: explaining things as if though they felt like there were

647
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 5: probably a lot of people watching it for the very

648
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 5: first time, okay, which was which is good. You know,

649
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 5: they're explaining Dominict Masiro's Ray Massira's.

650
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 3: Kid like anyway.

651
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 5: But I think they expected a lot of people who

652
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 5: were watching for the very very first time.

653
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 2: But yeah, it was good. You had some big matches,

654
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 2: some big moments.

655
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 5: You had a return of hul Cogan that I don't

656
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 5: think went the way hull Cogan was expecting it to go.

657
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 2: I saw people on social like, dude, where does that

658
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 2: come from? Boot out of the building.

659
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 5: Why He's had some things in his past that I

660
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 5: think are WW cut ties with them because of some

661
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 5: things that he had done.

662
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 3: Also they're political backings and stuff.

663
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:32,000
Speaker 5: There's that could have played I think maybe, but there

664
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 5: are I don't think like all of LA is Southern

665
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Speaker 5: California is very different than if it was Yeah, San Francisco.

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Speaker 9: There are a lot of people like on social that

667
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Speaker 9: were there like kind of talking about it and showing

668
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Speaker 9: videos and why they were booing him and stuff, and

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Speaker 9: it was a lot of behind that kind of concept

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Speaker 9: some of that.

671
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Speaker 5: And I think there's some of the tapes that came

672
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Speaker 5: out about him years ago or a few years ago

673
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 5: that was why WW cut ties, where he'd made some

674
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Speaker 5: very poor judgment comments about kind of group seventy doesn't

675
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Speaker 5: he can't walk.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he couldn't even even go to the ring.

677
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 3: He just came out and.

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Speaker 5: Then but I mean, and he's I talked about how

679
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Speaker 5: the greatest tag team partner he's ever had, or you

680
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 5: the fans, and I mean they just that he's getting

681
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 5: booed out of them.

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Speaker 2: It was nuts. It was surreal. It's surreal to watch it,

683
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 2: like hol Comnia is dead, it's over.

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00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of the stuff from that our youth

685
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 4: that way, the things that were pillars not so great.

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Speaker 2: Uh, this is the first time he's ever gotten a

687
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Speaker 2: reaction like this one.

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00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 5: He was not like trying to be the bad guy, right,

689
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Speaker 5: He was coming out trying to be as good as

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Speaker 5: it can be and not.

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Speaker 2: It was good though.

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Speaker 5: The one thing that's crazy about it being on Netflix

693
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Speaker 5: now is think about this, and Triple H has alluded

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Speaker 5: to it. The show's going to be as long as

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Speaker 5: the show needs to be. Absolutely like, if if we

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Speaker 5: need five more minutes, take five more minutes. If we

697
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Speaker 5: need ten more minutes, take time. If we don't it,

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Speaker 5: we only have ninety minutes of good stuff this.

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Speaker 3: Week, that's it.

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Speaker 4: We're only do ninet minutes Yeah, they don't have They're

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Speaker 4: not required to fill a certain amount of time.

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Speaker 2: It's that's got to be free. Yeah, I would think so.

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Speaker 3: A quick shout out to the.

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Speaker 4: Great Montana State Bobcats dug a twenty one to three

705
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Speaker 4: hole last night and then rallied.

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00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 2: I thought they had a chance.

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Speaker 4: There was a drive in the fourth quarter where they

708
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 4: were down three and they went three and out and

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Speaker 4: then Northcota State won it.

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Speaker 3: But North Source State, I mean, it's ten national champions for.

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Speaker 4: Them at one double A and they've eliminated Montana State

712
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 4: twice in the final game last year in the playoffs,

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Speaker 4: So they're the thorn in our side, as it were.

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Speaker 3: End of the league.

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Speaker 2: Hello Gibbey, some of.

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Speaker 3: These were just gonna go rapid fire. They sucked. They

731
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Speaker 3: did a lot of it. Otherwise. One thought from every

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Speaker 3: game in Week eighteen of the National Football League Saturday

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Speaker 3: Night Bengals nineteen, Squealers seventeen ze Girl. One thought gope.

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00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 5: Steelers defense in some ways in this game was stupefying.

735
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 5: They put Chase out there on Kobe Trice, not double

736
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Speaker 5: him like the Belichick thing, and made sense to me.

737
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 5: You would put your number one on their number two,

738
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 5: which again with Porter and Higgins before he got hurt,

739
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 5: but then you would double the other side completely. Yeah,

740
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 5: they did not do that, and Jamar Chase was able

741
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 5: to have a very very good game. But at the

742
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Speaker 5: same token, they held them to four field goals off

743
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:08,840
Speaker 5: of the foot of Kade York and so did a

744
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 5: good job there. Steelers to me offensively, just don't seem

745
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,839
Speaker 5: like they've got anything. And Russ the bloom is off

746
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:17,399
Speaker 5: the Russ rose unfortunately.

747
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:21,879
Speaker 4: I think it's stupefying that Pittsburgh for the last month

748
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 4: has just not used justin fields when, yes, when they

749
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 4: started with Russ they would bring him in for some

750
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 4: change of pace stuff and now and without and in

751
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 4: the red zone and in the red zone and.

752
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 5: Without Pickens consistently. It's a mess. He was a mess,

753
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,399
Speaker 5: and he was a mess in this game. So why

754
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 5: don't they pay Mike Williams Moore.

755
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 2: I don't know.

756
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,799
Speaker 4: I think I think he's better than they play him to.

757
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 4: I don't understand it. I really don't.

758
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 5: Mike Williams in the last five games has had twelve targets.

759
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 5: He's cut eight for one hundred yards with them, but

760
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:56,359
Speaker 5: they don't play him.

761
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 2: No, I know they don't play him.

762
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Speaker 3: There was something with fields.

763
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 2: Do you remember he got hurt an ankle.

764
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,840
Speaker 3: In practice when he was trying to be Was he

765
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:10,879
Speaker 3: trying to beat Lamar? Maybe I don't know if that's

766
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 3: what's holding him back, but yeah, it's stupefying that they

767
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 3: are not playing justin fields a little bit and trying

768
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Speaker 3: to change some things up. They've lost four in a

769
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Speaker 3: row going into the playoffs. From Sunday's action, the feisty

770
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:29,880
Speaker 3: Carolina Panthers finished the wreck finished the season on a

771
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Speaker 3: four and three record. They beat the Falcons forty four

772
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Speaker 3: to thirty eight in overtime. Bo Bishop One.

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Speaker 4: Thought, really happy for the folks in that area, for

774
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 4: the folks who root for that team, and for the

775
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Speaker 4: idea that they didn't bail on Bryce Young and he

776
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 4: flipped it, and he went from somebody who it looked

777
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Speaker 4: like was broken at the beginning of the year. I'm

778
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Speaker 4: not going to give them a whole lot of credit

779
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 4: for it, because they say, if Dalton doesn't get hurt,

780
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:58,799
Speaker 4: they probably just stick with him. But the reality is

781
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 4: that that kid flip it and now they have a

782
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:02,280
Speaker 4: viable future.

783
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 2: So that's a good job.

784
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 5: These are two teams that I think have very viable

785
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 5: futures because they've got good young quarterbacks.

786
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Speaker 2: And Bryce Young is probably younger than Michael Pennox.

787
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Speaker 3: Isn't he.

788
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 4: For two years because he was just he was just

789
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 4: Dan red Schert. He played three years at Bama. Pennix

790
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:19,319
Speaker 4: was a five plus year player.

791
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 3: Maybe six.

792
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, Bryce Young, you know. I was reading something from

793
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 5: the Great cleve Ta the other day. Maybe it's today

794
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 5: where Drew Brees it took him a while to adjust

795
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,880
Speaker 5: to NFL pockets, talking about thirty games or so. And

796
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:34,959
Speaker 5: if you look at Bryce Young what he's been able

797
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 5: to do now, he's really starting to figure out. So

798
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:40,239
Speaker 5: perhaps that's something he's playing confidently. He's got his swagger back.

799
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 5: He's gonna be fun to watch, and Atlanta's fun to watch.

800
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 5: Drake London is so good. I don't understand how Kyle

801
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:50,319
Speaker 5: pitts issible. He's the biggest invisible person I've ever seen.

802
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 5: And then Bijon is good. So they've got They've got

803
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 5: a good triplets in Pennix, Bjon and Drake London to

804
00:36:56,680 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 5: build around. Carolina still needs. They tried, you know, legit is,

805
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,879
Speaker 5: you know, their first round pick this year. Theelan's still

806
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 5: hanging on, playing well. Jalen Cocher's playing well. Jatavian Sanders,

807
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:09,319
Speaker 5: their tight end has made some plays for them. But

808
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:11,400
Speaker 5: their team, I think they could even still six. They

809
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 5: could get your boy, they could get McMillan. McMillan would

810
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 5: be oh so good for them.

811
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that'd be perfect.

812
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 3: I still think the Falcons are gutless until they maybe

813
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 3: get a new coach.

814
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 5: I mean, this is a crazy had the Saints upset Tampa,

815
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 5: which was certainly in play for the majority of the day,

816
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:32,879
Speaker 5: the fact that the Falcons were that they did lose this.

817
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 4: Game, I think the chronologic nature. Chronologically, they knew that

818
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:40,720
Speaker 4: the buckets over in overtime.

819
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, but they didn't know when they got beat fourteen.

820
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 5: They gave up a fourteen nil in the third quarter. Yeah, no,

821
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:49,279
Speaker 5: they did not, did not. I mean it was and

822
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:51,919
Speaker 5: by the way, they had to score belichicked to get

823
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:52,879
Speaker 5: it into the fourth quarter.

824
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:54,399
Speaker 2: Belichick get to coach them.

825
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:58,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, geez, next Belichick coaches them. Maybe they win the

826
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 5: week before because they manage a clock properly. At the end,

827
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,360
Speaker 5: they get a real field goal attempt. And maybe this

828
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 5: game didn't even matter.

829
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 4: And maybe they don't draft Panics. Maybe they just go

830
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 4: with Cousins and they do something else with that pick,

831
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 4: and who.

832
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:17,279
Speaker 3: Knows Commy's twenty three Cowboys nineteen Nathan, This is.

833
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:18,879
Speaker 2: Not a serious game. This is not a serious game.

834
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 4: Next, all right, I just want to say this. There

835
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 4: is a Paramount Plus show called Landman that Billy Bob

836
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 4: Thornton is which is endlessly and starting. It's going endlessly entertaining.

837
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 4: Is it's pure fun and joy and all of it.

838
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:35,319
Speaker 4: And Jerah Jara's scene that he did, and I'm saying

839
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 4: this without an ounce of hyperbole, is as fine acted

840
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:44,360
Speaker 4: scene from a non actor that you will ever see.

841
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 4: The Rave reviews he Jiminey murders it and he might

842
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 4: just win a damn Emmy for it.

843
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 5: It's crazy. I had no idea that he was even

844
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 5: capable of it. How would he be? It was a

845
00:38:56,080 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 5: de Niro because he's Jerry Jones call it's crazy, delivered

846
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 5: the lines even emotional, yes, authentic, it was crazy.

847
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:06,400
Speaker 3: He was really good. That's crazy.

848
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:07,319
Speaker 2: That shows fun.

849
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 5: My guess is he has put himself in some predicaments

850
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:13,840
Speaker 5: over the course of his life that required some tremendous acting.

851
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 2: And I think that's true. But them, he's in a

852
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 2: room with.

853
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 4: An Academy Award winner and an Emmy Award winner, it's

854
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 4: John Hamm and Billy Bomb and he steals it.

855
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 3: It's crazy. Yeah, it's crazy. What was his character or

856
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:32,400
Speaker 3: was he he plays himself? Yeah, well it's really good.

857
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:36,479
Speaker 3: Bears twenty four packers twenty two.

858
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 4: Bo Bishop, I mean, Christian Watson goes down, Jordan Love

859
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 4: gets hurt in the game. What a mess for Green Bay.

860
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:47,320
Speaker 4: They were ten point favorites in this game. But that's

861
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 4: beside the point. It's the injury stuff that's just brutal.

862
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you something right now. Let me go,

863
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 2: let me look something up real quick.

864
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Speaker 5: A guy that I'm interested it in, huh, that I'm

865
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:03,800
Speaker 5: you know, would be not even afraid.

866
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 2: To look at here.

867
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Speaker 5: So he's still on his rookie deal, so you would

868
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 5: you wouldn't get him a chance to get him till

869
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 5: twenty six because they must have traded for him. Malik Willis.

870
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:18,799
Speaker 5: Malik Willis played real well. He did earlier Green Bay

871
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:21,799
Speaker 5: this year really well. And to me, he that is

872
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 5: I find that to be very interesting. Big guy big

873
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 5: arm knows a system at least that is has its

874
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 5: roots in our system, Lafleur, Shanahan, all of that. It's

875
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:41,399
Speaker 5: the same type of thing this year. Seventy five percent completions,

876
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:45,359
Speaker 5: ten yards in attempt, three touchdowns, no picks, one hundred

877
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 5: and twenty five rating, and obviously he can do some

878
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 5: things with his legs. He had seventy three in a

879
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 5: touchdown against Tennessee earlier this year. When he started, he

880
00:40:55,080 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 5: intrigues me size arm.

881
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 4: The only thing I would say is our guy is

882
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:09,760
Speaker 4: buddies with Arthur Smith. And wasn't he the oppensive coordinator

883
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 4: there when they drafted Willis?

884
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:14,479
Speaker 2: He was? But does it takes? Did not like him much.

885
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:17,840
Speaker 5: Sometimes it takes. It takes time and growth and development.

886
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 5: And I would maybe say that's why Lafleur is the

887
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 5: head coach and not.

888
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:35,239
Speaker 3: Valid. Yeah. Uh Texans twenty three Titans fourteen Titans. Congratulations,

889
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:36,360
Speaker 3: you have the number one pick.

890
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 5: And they don't have a GM THEYVM today.

891
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 2: Who hired Callahan? What a mess? They could have just

892
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 2: kept Mike.

893
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 4: Like they went from number one in the AFC to

894
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:48,400
Speaker 4: two years later number one pick in the draft.

895
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 3: Not not great.

896
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 5: They think they're taking quarterback number one clearly obviously, like

897
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:55,879
Speaker 5: they played will Levis.

898
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 2: To make sure they lost.

899
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 4: Yes, Like that's we'll make sure we're picking one and

900
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 4: lou as they did.

901
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 3: By the way, Arthur Smith per the g man was

902
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:05,319
Speaker 3: in Atlanta.

903
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 2: We sure g man he was already there by the

904
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 2: time that Willis was.

905
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 3: Tennessee.

906
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 2: Okay, it feels possible to him play.

907
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:16,239
Speaker 3: I knew it was right now.

908
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 2: How many years was it?

909
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 5: If he was in Atlanta for two years, then yeah,

910
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 5: and he had this. He wasn't one in thirty years

911
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 5: as Willis's third year. Yeah, so Willis was drafted probably

912
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:28,359
Speaker 5: right after US eighty sixth overall in twenty twenty two.

913
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:31,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, Arthur simm first year in Atlanta was twenty twenty one.

914
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 5: Oh okay, Houston, did you want to play your stars

915
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 5: and get him a feel good drive? Stroud goes six

916
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 5: for six for fifty and a touchdown mix and runs

917
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 5: it nicely. They get a touchdown to Nico Collins and

918
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 5: then he's out.

919
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 3: That's it.

920
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 5: That's all you had to do. See you goodbye, and Tennessee.

921
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 5: They did this properly. They actually understood the assignment and

922
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 5: they did it.

923
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 3: Colts twenty six, Jaguars twenty three in overtime.

924
00:42:59,080 --> 00:42:59,919
Speaker 2: I would I love.

925
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 5: I would love if I'm Vrabel, if I'm anybody, if

926
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 5: I'm an offensive coach, that is good. This is where

927
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 5: I want to be. I want to be right here.

928
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 5: Not only do you have Brian Thomas Kirk will be

929
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 5: back healthy. Here's the other thing that second round pick

930
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 5: you made this year. Brenton Strange from Penn State is

931
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 5: good and you have Avenue back. You can go two

932
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 5: tight ends, a couple of wide receivers.

933
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 4: And Thomas Thomas is a stud stud Like this feels

934
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 4: like if if Old buy up in Detroit's gonna go,

935
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:36,240
Speaker 4: this is where.

936
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:36,800
Speaker 2: You Ben Johnson.

937
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:40,360
Speaker 5: Yeah right, oh man, that would be great. Very winnable division,

938
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:41,840
Speaker 5: very winnable division.

939
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 3: Yeah. Three of the three of the four teams have

940
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:47,360
Speaker 3: they've fired people in the last two days.

941
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 2: How about Jonathan Taylor.

942
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:51,360
Speaker 5: They're like, I don't know if he had incentives or

943
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 5: what it was, but the guy thirty four carries in

944
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 5: a season finale wild pretty much?

945
00:43:56,320 --> 00:44:00,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, Patriots twenty three, Bill's sixteen, Like.

946
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 4: They just picked Anthony Richardson and then they obviously realized

947
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 4: he can't play. Yeah, and two years later, how about

948
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 4: this is the most the Patriots went from one.

949
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 2: To four the Patriot way they went from one to four.

950
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 4: The story this week that Bob Kraft had no input

951
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:19,359
Speaker 4: on how they played in the final week. The other thing,

952
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:21,799
Speaker 4: the sliding doors of them beating Cincinnati week one. If

953
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 4: that just would have went the way it was supposed to,

954
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:25,399
Speaker 4: Cincinnati bann and they would add the number one pick.

955
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 5: Can somebody explain to me because I don't know the

956
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 5: answer to this, but can somebody explain to me? We

957
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 5: heard all week Drake may is starting, were playing to win,

958
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:42,400
Speaker 5: and Drake may threw one pass, got sacked, handed it

959
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 5: off once and then didn't play anymore.

960
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 4: No, and then Joe Milton played great, formerly of Michigan

961
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:51,240
Speaker 4: and Tennessee, Tennessee came in and played great.

962
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 2: What when was he picked?

963
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 4: His whole thing was always accurate. He's a big kid.

964
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 4: He can throw it.

965
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 2: He's like Uncle Rico. He could throw it over a

966
00:44:57,880 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 2: mountain range.

967
00:44:58,520 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 3: He was here.

968
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 2: I remember he had a he was here. I met him.

969
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:03,879
Speaker 2: Did Big Kid a visit maybe?

970
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 3: Yeah?

971
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:05,759
Speaker 5: He was a six round pick in this year's draft,

972
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 5: big kid, six ' five two fifty.

973
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 2: Huge arm.

974
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 5: He played great in this game. Twenty two to twenty nine.

975
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 5: I mean they they played to win the game.

976
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 3: Yeah. Wild Eagles twenty g men thirteen.

977
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 2: I mean you can't beat them, by the way, are

978
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:28,280
Speaker 2: we hearing?

979
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:28,400
Speaker 7: Like?

980
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 2: Is Jalen Hurts not.

981
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:31,279
Speaker 3: Still in protocols of last night?

982
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 4: He's STI that's a major, a major red flag there,

983
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:38,919
Speaker 4: buddy for them. I mean that's crazy. He's like still

984
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 4: being in protocols. Well, that's what I was saying about week.

985
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 5: When you think about the Tampa scenario, green Bay beats them,

986
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 5: which if they don't have Jalen Hurts, is beyond feasible.

987
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, is he practicing while in the protocols.

988
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:53,240
Speaker 3: I haven't seen anything.

989
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 2: They play what Sunday Sunday four.

990
00:45:56,200 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 5: So their first practice will tomorrow. Milik Neighbors Special Giants back.

991
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:05,319
Speaker 5: It's unfamilab me. They did what they did against Indy

992
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:06,440
Speaker 5: to knock them out of the playoffs.

993
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 4: It's unfirdedly to me that mar went up yesterday and said,

994
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 4: we're running out of patience, but we're running it back.

995
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 3: Not what we're doing.

996
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 2: That's a shocker, it really is.

997
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 4: And now they're gona have to give up stuff to

998
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 4: get a quarterback because they have to go up and

999
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 4: get one, whether we're not going to get one or

1000
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 4: they're not going to get one. And then what do

1001
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 4: they have, Like you're gonna run back Drew Locke.

1002
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:29,320
Speaker 5: I mean, you can find somebody who can throw the

1003
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:33,760
Speaker 5: football around like heck, if they're not, if they're serious

1004
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 5: about being fun and having some ups and downs, but

1005
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 5: not necessarily trying to.

1006
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 2: Turn it all around in one year.

1007
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 5: Jamis would be great there, Oh he don't sing it,

1008
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:42,360
Speaker 5: Melik Neighbors very happy.

1009
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:45,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you'd score one hundred and twenty receptions, eighteen

1010
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 4: hundred and fifty yards, thirteen touchdowns.

1011
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 2: Yes. Yeah.

1012
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 3: Tampa Bay twenty seven Saints nineteen. Bob Bishop One thought.

1013
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 4: The fact that this was this game is much closer

1014
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,839
Speaker 4: than twenty seven to nineteen. Would you believe Saints led

1015
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 4: much of this game and the idea for all that

1016
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:03,279
Speaker 4: was at stake for Tampa Bay and Atlanta that that's

1017
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 4: the way they came out is hard for me to

1018
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:05,760
Speaker 4: write my head around.

1019
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:09,359
Speaker 5: Uh yeah, I mean I love that they got Mike

1020
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 5: Evans the record. Jalen McMillan is turning into a player.

1021
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 5: Made two huge catches. That was their third round pick

1022
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 5: this year. Two huge catches, So he was Roma Dunze

1023
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 5: was the one. And was he like the two in

1024
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 5: Washington or not even the two? Was he like the

1025
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 5: wait wait what now Jalen McMillan, Yeah.

1026
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 3: And then then Jalen Polk was the other one.

1027
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 2: Three three guys.

1028
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 5: So McMillan was the third though, but the other two

1029
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 5: were two three, I mean they were was it didn't

1030
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 5: Polk get picked early in the draft early, remember Patriots,

1031
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 5: he was Patriots, did not have to do much in

1032
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 5: his rookie season. But you know, Polk's got thirty one three,

1033
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 5: sixteen and seven touchdowns in his last five games. McMillan

1034
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:54,400
Speaker 5: thirty one three, sixteen seven touchdowns in his last five games.

1035
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 2: For the whole season.

1036
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 5: Outside those five games, he had another one hundred and

1037
00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:00,040
Speaker 5: fifty yards and one touchdown. I mean, he's become a

1038
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 5: real force for them with obviously Godwin's out, Yeah, and

1039
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:08,720
Speaker 5: bake th was full bake ugly at times and then electric.

1040
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:10,719
Speaker 2: By the way, and for sixty yards in this game.

1041
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:13,240
Speaker 5: His running and I've only gotten to watch a handful

1042
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:16,319
Speaker 5: of their games, his running is look it, it looks

1043
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 5: pretty darn good. Yeah, his last five games, he's got

1044
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:20,839
Speaker 5: a game with forty.

1045
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 2: Against DL's sixty eight.

1046
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 7: There.

1047
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:24,360
Speaker 4: You know what he's doing different than what he did

1048
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 4: here among many things, but rather than escape pocket left

1049
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:30,320
Speaker 4: and right or something, he's going up. Yep, he's stepping

1050
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 4: up in the pocket and he's taken off. Yeah, it's

1051
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 4: just in here he would want to peel and out

1052
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:37,719
Speaker 4: get out and now he's stepping up and out.

1053
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:40,920
Speaker 5: And Mike Evans is awesome, and the love that his

1054
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:43,399
Speaker 5: teammates have for him was that was really really cool

1055
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:43,719
Speaker 5: to see.

1056
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 2: You don't see that a ton anymore.

1057
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 3: No Broncos thirty eight Chiefs nothing Chiefs. After sitting on

1058
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 3: a tarmac for four hours and then flying to Denver, so.

1059
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 5: I watched this, they like had I think a first

1060
00:48:58,239 --> 00:48:59,240
Speaker 5: down in the first half.

1061
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:01,760
Speaker 4: They just ran it. I mean when they just handed

1062
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:05,360
Speaker 4: it off and they actually threw it more than they

1063
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:06,720
Speaker 4: ran it, did they really?

1064
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 5: They only had I'm pretty sure I have it right.

1065
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 5: Let's say he was ten of seventeen passing and was

1066
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 5: sacked four times. Ola Dukin whatever his name is, was

1067
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:21,040
Speaker 5: sacked once on his only drop back and then ran

1068
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:24,879
Speaker 5: another time. They only had nine actual runs in the game,

1069
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 5: so they threw it almost three to one.

1070
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 2: They just never had them the.

1071
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 5: Ball never had I bet the time possession could have

1072
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 5: been forty to twenty, forty one to eighteen. Time possession

1073
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:36,280
Speaker 5: was forty one, forty nine to eighteen.

1074
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:39,320
Speaker 4: It's a hell of a calculated risk to not play

1075
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 4: anybody for almost thirty days, because you.

1076
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 5: Know how many total yards they had give me total yards.

1077
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 5: The chief said, no, ninety eight, ninety eight yards. They

1078
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 5: ran thirty three plays to seventy two for the Broncos.

1079
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 3: It was just a.

1080
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 2: Complete They didn't even turn it over.

1081
00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:00,440
Speaker 5: No, it was just a complete beatdown or one of

1082
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 5: nine on third downs they actually wentz, what's trying to throw?

1083
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:11,439
Speaker 5: Denver's d is really good? Also also also somebody needs

1084
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 5: to step in. These are the uniforms. That is the

1085
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 5: field logo at the center of the field. Yes, all

1086
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 5: of it enough, they are stop it. There should be

1087
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 5: nothing else nothing. It's perfect.

1088
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 2: That's it. It's perfect. It's perfect.

1089
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:29,839
Speaker 4: You and I need to be you and I need

1090
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:32,360
Speaker 4: to be well. The other one, actually a lot of

1091
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:35,440
Speaker 4: people thought was modeled after him. I think more Mecklenburg

1092
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:39,719
Speaker 4: when I think of these. Yes, but we we we

1093
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 4: need to be like the uniform. Like if you're having

1094
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:46,279
Speaker 4: if you're let's let's volunteer at services. If you are

1095
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:49,480
Speaker 4: a team and you're trying to make a decision at

1096
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 4: the last minute on uniformed choices, give us a call,

1097
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 4: fly us in.

1098
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:57,319
Speaker 2: Noma, help you.

1099
00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 4: We'll come in and say, all right, you got these,

1100
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 4: you got some new age stuff. Let's have that be

1101
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 4: the one off, and let's wear these all the time,

1102
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:06,879
Speaker 4: all the time, Atlanta, Let's have that be the one off.

1103
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:10,759
Speaker 4: Je This Jeff Jeff George is all the time, because

1104
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:12,399
Speaker 4: I want you to be on my side with.

1105
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:16,960
Speaker 2: This thing, like that's that's what you do. It's not hard.

1106
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 5: Those are beautiful old Seattle Seahawks. Yes, this and then

1107
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 5: now this is your one off. Yes, less of the

1108
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:25,880
Speaker 5: one that people like less, more of the one that

1109
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 5: they like more.

1110
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:29,279
Speaker 3: Right, all right, we're up against I got to get

1111
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 3: to the haff.

1112
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 2: Are we Yeah, just save the rest of them. We

1113
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:38,240
Speaker 2: got we got all all week.

1114
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:39,719
Speaker 3: It's true.

1115
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 5: We don't have we don't have to spend, we don't

1116
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 5: have to meet the opponent.

1117
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 2: We don't have hair, we don't have.

1118
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 5: Which of these was most interesting to you of these

1119
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:50,280
Speaker 5: games in Minnesota Detroit?

1120
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:50,959
Speaker 3: Yeah for sure?

1121
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:56,719
Speaker 4: I also Rams also Rams Rams saying we're good is

1122
00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:57,360
Speaker 4: wild to me.

1123
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:02,839
Speaker 2: It's absolutely Miami. What's going on on there? Crazy? All right?

1124
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:06,479
Speaker 2: Haff his hour, his half hour rather is coming up next?

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1138
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:53,600
Speaker 3: Keep it Twisted Cleveland. Are you doing Hoff? The kids

1139
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:54,280
Speaker 3: back in school?

1140
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:57,759
Speaker 7: I'm doing great, Yes, thankfully. The kids that finally back

1141
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:00,880
Speaker 7: at school after like what seemed like two hundred years

1142
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 7: of them being in my space, finally their way so

1143
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 7: I can get some work done.

1144
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:07,799
Speaker 4: So you had you, guys said the Christmas holiday, the

1145
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:09,720
Speaker 4: New Year's Eve, and by the looks of your Instagram,

1146
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:10,719
Speaker 4: looks like you skied a little.

1147
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:12,279
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1148
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 7: We actually went out to Utah did a little skim

1149
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:15,920
Speaker 7: with the family. He met up with Colt McCoy and

1150
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:18,359
Speaker 7: his family and kids and Evan Moore, another tight end

1151
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:21,200
Speaker 7: from the Browns back in the day, and all the

1152
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:23,440
Speaker 7: kids got on the slopes. He had great weather, some snow.

1153
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:24,880
Speaker 7: It was all pure joy.

1154
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:26,880
Speaker 3: I loved it.

1155
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:29,800
Speaker 2: Half even called in this program from the slopes.

1156
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 5: From the slopes, yeah, oh yeah, yeah, he was talking

1157
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:34,400
Speaker 5: about the opera ski. I gave my one of my

1158
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:35,880
Speaker 5: you weren't here for this, so I gave one of

1159
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 5: my favorite lines. So haf you know my buddy Kenny

1160
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 5: Klaffsman who got the seventy three hat for you from

1161
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:43,279
Speaker 5: Olympia Fields, Kenny Kenny.

1162
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:45,799
Speaker 2: So he was calls.

1163
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:48,319
Speaker 5: Me on Sunday morning, I'm getting ready or Saturday morning,

1164
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:49,799
Speaker 5: getting ready for the game, and he calls me because

1165
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:51,360
Speaker 5: I was just listening to the show from earlier in

1166
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:53,400
Speaker 5: the week. Yeah, he said, you said something that I

1167
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 5: thought was the funniest thing that I had heard. And

1168
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:57,040
Speaker 5: He's like, I had to call you because I loved

1169
00:53:57,040 --> 00:53:59,160
Speaker 5: it so much. So Half was in Park City on

1170
00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 5: the slopes. Yeah, and I said, normally he's the half

1171
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:05,399
Speaker 5: Joe Thomas, but today on the slopes, he's the half

1172
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 5: Joe Tomba.

1173
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 2: Oh baby Tomba. So Kenny was my boy.

1174
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 3: Kenny was loving that so I just the hop Joe Tomba,

1175
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:14,280
Speaker 3: and I know you appreciate.

1176
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:16,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, after we talked, did you end up? Did you

1177
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 2: look him up?

1178
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:18,400
Speaker 5: Did you see that he is a man that is

1179
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 5: worthy of being mentioned in the same breath with greatness

1180
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:22,719
Speaker 5: like you?

1181
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:24,840
Speaker 7: Yes, yes, I did have to look it up. But

1182
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 7: now that I did, I really appreciate you making those

1183
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:31,279
Speaker 7: parallels because he's somebody that I could really aspire to be,

1184
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:34,560
Speaker 7: you know, model your life after peak Tomba.

1185
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:37,080
Speaker 4: Well, I'll just say this, like maybe his peak as

1186
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:40,439
Speaker 4: a guest after you. Once you've googled Alberto Tomba, now

1187
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:43,840
Speaker 4: google Canterine a Vitt and understand that at the peak

1188
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:47,040
Speaker 4: of his powers and the peak of hers that's what

1189
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 4: he did. So united you'll and you're gonna it's an

1190
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:51,760
Speaker 4: even bigger compliment than you realize.

1191
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:53,280
Speaker 2: Yes, he's a legend.

1192
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:54,400
Speaker 7: I didn't have to google her.

1193
00:54:54,600 --> 00:55:00,399
Speaker 3: Bo oh.

1194
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:03,399
Speaker 4: Plus a German legend is a German so even yes,

1195
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:05,439
Speaker 4: even that's a lot there.

1196
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:06,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, very good.

1197
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:10,719
Speaker 4: All right, Look, this is it's it's it is done.

1198
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 4: It is three and fourteen. You've been a part of

1199
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 4: these obviously from the standpoint I want you to put

1200
00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:21,200
Speaker 4: us into the mind. Of the pillars of this operation,

1201
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:24,279
Speaker 4: the Miles Garretts. You were that guy. You're the first

1202
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:26,359
Speaker 4: ballot half guy. Miles is the first ballot half guy

1203
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 4: Joel Potonio. Guys like that, and you finish a season

1204
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:34,000
Speaker 4: like it, how how do they process it? How did

1205
00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:37,360
Speaker 4: you process it? And what is the end of the

1206
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 4: year like when it goes the way that it did

1207
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:39,600
Speaker 4: this year.

1208
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:43,640
Speaker 7: Well, I think one of the things all those guys

1209
00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:45,399
Speaker 7: are going to try to do is get away, right,

1210
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:47,440
Speaker 7: get your mind away, get your body away, get out

1211
00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:50,759
Speaker 7: of Bria, get out of Cleveland, and give yourself at

1212
00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:53,359
Speaker 7: least a month just to kind of reset and to

1213
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 7: get an opportunity to just think about the season but

1214
00:55:56,760 --> 00:55:59,080
Speaker 7: not be so intense and have it on your mind

1215
00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:01,759
Speaker 7: and on your momotions every single day, because if you

1216
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:04,360
Speaker 7: don't give yourself that amount of time, right, it's just

1217
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:06,279
Speaker 7: going to fester, you know, It's like a wound. And

1218
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 7: I think about the comments that Tyree Kill made yesterday

1219
00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 7: in Miami, like, I'm out of here. I don't want

1220
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:14,279
Speaker 7: to be part of this, you know, because if you're

1221
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:17,960
Speaker 7: giving a microphone or you're asked to make a decision

1222
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:20,480
Speaker 7: right after the season's over, I think we know what

1223
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:22,759
Speaker 7: everybody feels, just the same way the fans do. Look,

1224
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:26,520
Speaker 7: nobody feels good about what happened this year. Nobody is happy.

1225
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:29,680
Speaker 7: Everybody's just ready for it to be done with so

1226
00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 7: they can think about something else and have some time

1227
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:35,080
Speaker 7: to put some space between the end of the season

1228
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:38,200
Speaker 7: and any decisions that they need to make. And then

1229
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:40,560
Speaker 7: you know after a month, whether you're a guy that's

1230
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 7: getting up there in age and thinking about maybe retiring,

1231
00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:45,840
Speaker 7: or like Miles is saying towards the end of the season,

1232
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:47,560
Speaker 7: like hey, I only want to be part of this

1233
00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:50,560
Speaker 7: thing if it's not a rebuild, if we're trying to

1234
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:53,600
Speaker 7: win a championship next season. And I think then at

1235
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:55,799
Speaker 7: that point, after you give yourself about a month, then

1236
00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:58,200
Speaker 7: you have those serious conversations with whoever you need to

1237
00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:00,719
Speaker 7: in the building. You can start get in your mind

1238
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:02,799
Speaker 7: and maybe your body back into the building and start

1239
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:06,360
Speaker 7: thinking about next season now that you've cleaned the slates

1240
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:07,600
Speaker 7: in your brain.

1241
00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:10,719
Speaker 5: Haf some of the and we're going to get some

1242
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:12,120
Speaker 5: of the becomings from Andrew Berry, but some of the

1243
00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:14,560
Speaker 5: comments that came out of the locker room from Joel

1244
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:17,160
Speaker 5: Beatonio as well, as Jack Conklin. So that's a couple

1245
00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:21,160
Speaker 5: of all pros there on your offensive line, where that

1246
00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 5: they did not seem to care much for this spread

1247
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:26,919
Speaker 5: that the Browns began to run, and that they were

1248
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:30,560
Speaker 5: certainly interested in going back to the wide zone basics,

1249
00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 5: and Conkline went so far as say, you know, we

1250
00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:34,880
Speaker 5: lacked an identity and we need to go back to

1251
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:37,520
Speaker 5: doing the things that we were all brought here to do.

1252
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:40,800
Speaker 5: What are from an offensive lineman's perspective, what are the

1253
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 5: big differences in terms of the spread versus running that

1254
00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:48,680
Speaker 5: wide zone scheme and the pin polls. You know, Joel said,

1255
00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:50,160
Speaker 5: I think I pulled eight times this year. I was

1256
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:52,720
Speaker 5: used to pulling eight times a game. What are the

1257
00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:55,680
Speaker 5: differences in running those two from an offensive lineman's perspective,

1258
00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 5: the talents and the skills that are needed, and what

1259
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:00,720
Speaker 5: do you think of you know, Jack saying we need

1260
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:03,360
Speaker 5: to get back to what we do and have that identity.

1261
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:06,400
Speaker 7: Yeah, well, it's easy to understand why they liked that,

1262
00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:09,360
Speaker 7: because those two guys right there, Joel and Jack are

1263
00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:12,680
Speaker 7: to the best in the league over the last several

1264
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:15,640
Speaker 7: decades at running outside zone right big athletic, They can

1265
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:18,040
Speaker 7: move guys, they can get on those train tracks. And

1266
00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:20,320
Speaker 7: then when you're talking to pin poll stuff, really that's

1267
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:22,840
Speaker 7: kind of like outside zone, but with more of a

1268
00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:25,760
Speaker 7: defined cut where it's going to be outside. You're definitely

1269
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 7: trying to spread the defense and get outside of them,

1270
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:30,840
Speaker 7: get around them. And I think really the big difference

1271
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:33,720
Speaker 7: when you're running outside zone and pin pull stuff versus

1272
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:37,160
Speaker 7: the spread is that you are trying to stretch that

1273
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:40,480
Speaker 7: defense from sideline to sideline when you're running outside zone

1274
00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:43,440
Speaker 7: or pin pull, and with outside zone specifically, the ball

1275
00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:45,600
Speaker 7: can run anywhere, and it makes tough on a defense.

1276
00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:48,600
Speaker 7: It puts the pressure on them, you put them in conflict,

1277
00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:50,960
Speaker 7: especially when you pair that and you mirry it with

1278
00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:55,120
Speaker 7: the play action pass because now you've got a linebacker

1279
00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:57,640
Speaker 7: or safety who's responsible for a gap in the run game,

1280
00:58:57,640 --> 00:59:01,680
Speaker 7: but also potentially part of the field when you're in

1281
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:03,880
Speaker 7: zone coverage. So I think it puts a lot of

1282
00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:06,760
Speaker 7: pressure on a defense and I think it does what

1283
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:08,960
Speaker 7: this offensive line is best at, which is we got

1284
00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:11,760
Speaker 7: big guys that can run. We want them to stretch

1285
00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:15,120
Speaker 7: that defense from sideline to sideline. And I think especially

1286
00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:17,320
Speaker 7: with the results, right, Hey, maybe it's different if you're

1287
00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:20,840
Speaker 7: sitting here at you know, thirteen and four instead of

1288
00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:23,600
Speaker 7: you know, three and fourteen or whatever the math is.

1289
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:27,080
Speaker 7: Haven't done any math in a while. But if you're

1290
00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:29,320
Speaker 7: sitting there with it flipped and you're playing for an

1291
00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:32,360
Speaker 7: offense that was good, maybe they have a different perspective

1292
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:34,360
Speaker 7: and they're willing to do something that they're not quite

1293
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:37,240
Speaker 7: as good at. But I think it's pretty obvious, especially

1294
00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:40,680
Speaker 7: with Stefanski making the move removing offensive line coach and

1295
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:44,200
Speaker 7: getting rid of the offensive coordinator, that it's probably most

1296
00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:47,760
Speaker 7: likely that when he does hire an offensive coordinator, it's

1297
00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:50,520
Speaker 7: going to be somebody that really sees the game the

1298
00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:53,120
Speaker 7: way he does with that outside zone pin pull stuff,

1299
00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:55,480
Speaker 7: which is what we've seen in the years previous with

1300
00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:56,400
Speaker 7: Kevin Stefanski.

1301
00:59:57,360 --> 00:59:58,880
Speaker 3: And that comes back to you.

1302
00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:02,560
Speaker 4: You mentioned the Andy Dickerson and Ken Dorsey and those

1303
01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:05,520
Speaker 4: two changes that were made on Kevin's staff, and now

1304
01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:08,200
Speaker 4: back we assume, we don't know, we assume back to

1305
01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:11,920
Speaker 4: everything that this operation was built on and what Kevin's

1306
01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:14,520
Speaker 4: honestly career has been built on, the wide zone and

1307
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:16,040
Speaker 4: all of the stuff that comes at that, with the

1308
01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:18,400
Speaker 4: play action and all of those things. So you picked

1309
01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:20,960
Speaker 4: number two in this draft. There's a lot of different

1310
01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:23,000
Speaker 4: ways that you can go here. You see now it's

1311
01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:25,680
Speaker 4: easier for rookie quarterbacks than ever to come in and

1312
01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:28,120
Speaker 4: have an impact right away and get them up to

1313
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:32,720
Speaker 4: speed quickly. How much when you're sitting here at two,

1314
01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:37,320
Speaker 4: how much are you do you have to factor playing

1315
01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:40,720
Speaker 4: in that system versus because what we did this year

1316
01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:42,400
Speaker 4: is we brought in Ken to try to get the

1317
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:45,880
Speaker 4: most out of DeShawn. So this is going to be

1318
01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:49,440
Speaker 4: a remade quarterback room. Hoff If you were running this operation,

1319
01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:50,520
Speaker 4: how would you remake it?

1320
01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:55,440
Speaker 7: Well? I think because of the salary cap situation, the

1321
01:00:55,560 --> 01:00:58,440
Speaker 7: quarterback that you can get that plays the best quarterback

1322
01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:02,000
Speaker 7: is who you're going to kill your offense too. I

1323
01:01:02,040 --> 01:01:04,320
Speaker 7: think if you do go and get a veteran guy

1324
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:06,600
Speaker 7: like let's say a Kirk Cousins.

1325
01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:07,280
Speaker 3: It's pretty easy, right.

1326
01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:11,160
Speaker 7: That's this offensive system he's been in his entire career

1327
01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:13,280
Speaker 7: and he's had the most success with so that would

1328
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:15,440
Speaker 7: be natural. I think the only question is you did

1329
01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:17,880
Speaker 7: get a quarterback who was more of a Deshaun Watson

1330
01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:21,240
Speaker 7: shotgun type and he was really your best or your

1331
01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:23,840
Speaker 7: only option to play that position, then you'd have to

1332
01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:26,640
Speaker 7: have some deep conversations about, hey, do you think we

1333
01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:29,920
Speaker 7: should just stick with the outside zone and is it

1334
01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:32,920
Speaker 7: something where for one year, we think we can teach

1335
01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:35,800
Speaker 7: this quarterback this scheme, we can scheme it up for him,

1336
01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:38,120
Speaker 7: we can do a good job of, you know, giving

1337
01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:41,560
Speaker 7: him everything he can possibly have to get the most

1338
01:01:41,560 --> 01:01:44,960
Speaker 7: out of himself. And then knowing that, you know, down

1339
01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:46,560
Speaker 7: the line, in a couple of years, there'll be a

1340
01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:49,280
Speaker 7: different quarterback playing that and we want to not just

1341
01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:52,840
Speaker 7: keep changing systems all the time. Or is it a

1342
01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:55,840
Speaker 7: situation where you only want to take a quarterback that

1343
01:01:55,880 --> 01:01:58,320
Speaker 7: would fit into that system as a young player that

1344
01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:00,960
Speaker 7: you have an opportunity to develop. And you know, I

1345
01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:04,800
Speaker 7: think young guys they have much more of an opportunity

1346
01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:07,040
Speaker 7: because of the length of their career to be able

1347
01:02:07,040 --> 01:02:09,200
Speaker 7: to come into a system they've never been, learn it

1348
01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:11,360
Speaker 7: and then stick with it for a while. And the

1349
01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:13,320
Speaker 7: reason I say that is because you know, sam Donold

1350
01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:16,440
Speaker 7: is in Minnesota, JJ McCarthy's the backup. We don't know

1351
01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:19,840
Speaker 7: what's going to happen there, but there's potentially with the

1352
01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:22,800
Speaker 7: number two pick, especially if there's a team that has

1353
01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:26,280
Speaker 7: a young quarterback that has ability but they really want

1354
01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:28,760
Speaker 7: to get rid of him because he's a great resource

1355
01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:31,040
Speaker 7: and asset. I think the Browns take a long hard

1356
01:02:31,040 --> 01:02:32,880
Speaker 7: look at that and say, hey, we have this number

1357
01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:35,440
Speaker 7: two pick, We've got some draft capital that if we

1358
01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:38,520
Speaker 7: wanted to make a move and pick up a young quarterback,

1359
01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:41,560
Speaker 7: that could be our guy of the future, because especially

1360
01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:44,200
Speaker 7: it would fit into our salary cap situation. That might

1361
01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:46,520
Speaker 7: be somebody we want to do. But I think really,

1362
01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:48,400
Speaker 7: out of all the guys that we've talked about and

1363
01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:51,320
Speaker 7: thought about, I think all of them would potentially fit,

1364
01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:53,880
Speaker 7: whether being young in ability to grow into it and

1365
01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:56,800
Speaker 7: learn that outside zone play action, or old guy. For

1366
01:02:56,840 --> 01:02:59,120
Speaker 7: the most part, all those guys have been in that system.

1367
01:02:59,160 --> 01:03:01,880
Speaker 7: So I think we're safe no matter what direction we

1368
01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:02,760
Speaker 7: go at quarterback.

1369
01:03:05,120 --> 01:03:07,160
Speaker 2: That's the biggest question period.

1370
01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:10,440
Speaker 5: That's it, right, That's that's everything that this organization has

1371
01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:12,520
Speaker 5: to be focused on. And then light of the news

1372
01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:14,880
Speaker 5: that we heard from Andrew Burry yesterday, half full was

1373
01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:16,680
Speaker 5: kind of your reaction to that that, you know, we

1374
01:03:16,720 --> 01:03:19,320
Speaker 5: heard Deshaun Watson has had a setback with his achilles,

1375
01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:21,520
Speaker 5: and you know, you have to wonder if you would

1376
01:03:21,560 --> 01:03:25,520
Speaker 5: even be around at all or available at all in

1377
01:03:25,640 --> 01:03:26,520
Speaker 5: twenty twenty five.

1378
01:03:28,120 --> 01:03:30,440
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, we don't really know what setback news

1379
01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:32,760
Speaker 7: just yet, because at least I haven't heard any reports

1380
01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:36,920
Speaker 7: not in Borea right now. However, I think the timeline

1381
01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:40,160
Speaker 7: for an achilles is usually about a year at baseline,

1382
01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:42,840
Speaker 7: and that was going to put him ready towards the

1383
01:03:42,920 --> 01:03:45,400
Speaker 7: end of the season as it was, And so if

1384
01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:47,280
Speaker 7: there was any type of setback, even if it was

1385
01:03:47,320 --> 01:03:49,000
Speaker 7: only a few weeks, I mean, that puts you right

1386
01:03:49,040 --> 01:03:51,160
Speaker 7: at the end of the season. And is it really

1387
01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:53,720
Speaker 7: realistic to say, hey, we're gonna have this quarterback who

1388
01:03:53,720 --> 01:03:55,880
Speaker 7: hasn't played much in the last few years anyway, and

1389
01:03:55,920 --> 01:03:58,000
Speaker 7: when he's played, it's been up and down. To have

1390
01:03:58,120 --> 01:04:00,960
Speaker 7: him come in knock the rust off of not playing

1391
01:04:01,120 --> 01:04:04,560
Speaker 7: and knock the rust off of an injury that's been

1392
01:04:04,600 --> 01:04:07,440
Speaker 7: pretty significant. When you look at the two guys that

1393
01:04:07,480 --> 01:04:09,320
Speaker 7: were coming back from it last year, Aaron Rodgers or

1394
01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:12,600
Speaker 7: Kirk Cousins didn't play their best football. I think it's

1395
01:04:12,760 --> 01:04:16,959
Speaker 7: pretty safe to say that he probably won't be under

1396
01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:18,440
Speaker 7: center at all for the Browns next season.

1397
01:04:19,640 --> 01:04:22,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's boy, there's just so many things I'll

1398
01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:25,240
Speaker 4: tell you. This number two pick, though, Hoff there's a

1399
01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:27,520
Speaker 4: jolt of energy that comes with it for the French

1400
01:04:27,560 --> 01:04:29,000
Speaker 4: I mean for Zee and I at least not speaking

1401
01:04:29,040 --> 01:04:30,640
Speaker 4: for the franchisors or for them too. Look at this

1402
01:04:30,920 --> 01:04:33,560
Speaker 4: incredible asset that you now have at your disposal.

1403
01:04:33,640 --> 01:04:34,600
Speaker 2: It's a lifeboat.

1404
01:04:35,240 --> 01:04:37,280
Speaker 4: You mentioned the cap issues, those are very real, but

1405
01:04:37,320 --> 01:04:39,560
Speaker 4: now all of a sudden, you can add premium players

1406
01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:41,160
Speaker 4: to the top of the first round, the top of

1407
01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:43,080
Speaker 4: the second round, top of the third round. You have

1408
01:04:43,120 --> 01:04:45,280
Speaker 4: a second third round pick. You can get an incredible

1409
01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:48,040
Speaker 4: and influx of talent here. One of the other things

1410
01:04:48,120 --> 01:04:49,720
Speaker 4: we got to sort out other than that, is just

1411
01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:51,680
Speaker 4: kind of where we are on the offensive line. And

1412
01:04:51,760 --> 01:04:53,520
Speaker 4: Joel had some comments towards the end of the season

1413
01:04:53,520 --> 01:04:56,280
Speaker 4: about really taking a step back and what he wants

1414
01:04:56,320 --> 01:04:58,240
Speaker 4: to do going forward. He's played the same amount of

1415
01:04:58,280 --> 01:05:01,040
Speaker 4: years you did. If I'm correct, I believe I have

1416
01:05:01,160 --> 01:05:03,560
Speaker 4: that you and him obviously very close. I'm not asking

1417
01:05:03,560 --> 01:05:05,440
Speaker 4: you to share any personal conversations or anything like that,

1418
01:05:05,520 --> 01:05:08,680
Speaker 4: but if you go back to your decisions at that time,

1419
01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:12,520
Speaker 4: and obviously you had an injury situation, but what do

1420
01:05:12,600 --> 01:05:15,320
Speaker 4: you weigh when you've accomplished all that you did in

1421
01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:17,440
Speaker 4: yours towards the end, what does Joel What do you

1422
01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:20,800
Speaker 4: think Joel will weighs? As he's in that similar spot,

1423
01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:22,400
Speaker 4: So I.

1424
01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:25,919
Speaker 7: Think Joel's probably weighing two big things outside of health.

1425
01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:29,880
Speaker 7: I'm assuming that he feels okay enough. Like obviously, everybody

1426
01:05:30,120 --> 01:05:32,520
Speaker 7: that finishes eleven years in the NFL plan just about

1427
01:05:32,520 --> 01:05:35,880
Speaker 7: every year, you're not going to feel like you're twenty

1428
01:05:35,920 --> 01:05:38,840
Speaker 7: five again. So he's got wear and tear, but he's

1429
01:05:38,880 --> 01:05:41,560
Speaker 7: been mostly healthy later on in his career. So I'm

1430
01:05:41,600 --> 01:05:43,440
Speaker 7: just going to assume that he feels healthy enough that

1431
01:05:43,480 --> 01:05:46,280
Speaker 7: he could play again. And then it really comes down to, hey,

1432
01:05:46,320 --> 01:05:48,080
Speaker 7: what's the direction of the franchise, because I think, even

1433
01:05:48,080 --> 01:05:50,360
Speaker 7: though he hasn't said it like Miles did, I don't

1434
01:05:50,360 --> 01:05:52,080
Speaker 7: think he wants to go through another rebuild like he

1435
01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:54,440
Speaker 7: was part of that a bunch of times. And so

1436
01:05:54,600 --> 01:05:58,840
Speaker 7: I think the direction that the franchise takes between January

1437
01:05:58,920 --> 01:06:02,560
Speaker 7: right now and a draft will say a lot about

1438
01:06:02,960 --> 01:06:05,840
Speaker 7: where they think they are. Is this a deeper rebuild

1439
01:06:05,880 --> 01:06:08,600
Speaker 7: or is this just a reload? And is this looking

1440
01:06:08,680 --> 01:06:11,040
Speaker 7: at the roster which is still loaded with a ton

1441
01:06:11,080 --> 01:06:13,240
Speaker 7: of talent. Is this a team that if we do

1442
01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:17,480
Speaker 7: figure out the quarterback position, Will we compete for a championship?

1443
01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:20,240
Speaker 7: And I think if that's a yes, then the question

1444
01:06:20,320 --> 01:06:23,120
Speaker 7: for Joelt becomes that of personal accomplishment, right Like he's

1445
01:06:23,160 --> 01:06:25,600
Speaker 7: sort of on the border of being a guy that

1446
01:06:25,640 --> 01:06:28,840
Speaker 7: would be considered for the Hall of Fame. And obviously

1447
01:06:28,880 --> 01:06:31,200
Speaker 7: the we're all Pros Pro Bowls that you made, that's

1448
01:06:31,280 --> 01:06:33,520
Speaker 7: your resume as an offensive lineman. And then of course

1449
01:06:33,600 --> 01:06:35,840
Speaker 7: if you won a Super Bowl that helps too. But

1450
01:06:35,880 --> 01:06:38,240
Speaker 7: for him, it's a question about, you know, how good

1451
01:06:38,280 --> 01:06:41,080
Speaker 7: do I feel? How many more years can I play? Realistically?

1452
01:06:41,240 --> 01:06:42,920
Speaker 7: What's that number that I need to get to of

1453
01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:45,280
Speaker 7: all Pros Pro Bowls to be able to have a

1454
01:06:45,320 --> 01:06:48,280
Speaker 7: realistic shot of making the Hall of Fame, And I

1455
01:06:48,280 --> 01:06:51,720
Speaker 7: think Hall of Fame consideration, and then if this team

1456
01:06:51,760 --> 01:06:54,000
Speaker 7: is ready to win a championship next year, I think

1457
01:06:54,040 --> 01:06:55,480
Speaker 7: those are the two things that will be going through

1458
01:06:55,480 --> 01:06:58,080
Speaker 7: A Nine in the next couple months as he sort

1459
01:06:58,120 --> 01:07:01,320
Speaker 7: of mowls over what he wants where he wants to

1460
01:07:01,360 --> 01:07:02,200
Speaker 7: do next season.

1461
01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:06,720
Speaker 5: Have I got to talk with Joel in advance of

1462
01:07:06,760 --> 01:07:10,040
Speaker 5: this game, is what the last game of this season?

1463
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:13,280
Speaker 5: And you know, we talked about coming up next to

1464
01:07:13,360 --> 01:07:15,800
Speaker 5: you and what it meant that you just were always

1465
01:07:15,840 --> 01:07:17,600
Speaker 5: there that you know, when he started, he said he

1466
01:07:17,600 --> 01:07:20,360
Speaker 5: didn't think you Alex Mack or Mitchell Schwartz had ever

1467
01:07:20,360 --> 01:07:23,280
Speaker 5: missed a snap. Obviously, Alex Mack got hurt his rookie year.

1468
01:07:24,520 --> 01:07:27,840
Speaker 5: But for Joel Botonio in this season, at this stage

1469
01:07:27,840 --> 01:07:30,760
Speaker 5: of his career, when you see that he played one

1470
01:07:31,320 --> 01:07:33,520
Speaker 5: seventy eight snaps, which is more than any player in

1471
01:07:33,560 --> 01:07:37,680
Speaker 5: the National Football League played this year, I mean, to me,

1472
01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:43,040
Speaker 5: that's just the consummate professional following in your footstet. It's

1473
01:07:43,080 --> 01:07:45,720
Speaker 5: incredible to me, incredible. And he had a lot of injuries.

1474
01:07:45,720 --> 01:07:47,680
Speaker 5: He had back injuries, he had the arm, he had

1475
01:07:47,720 --> 01:07:49,080
Speaker 5: a lot of things that could have kept him out

1476
01:07:49,080 --> 01:07:52,880
Speaker 5: of games, and he did not ever played more snaps

1477
01:07:53,120 --> 01:07:54,320
Speaker 5: than anybody in the NFL.

1478
01:07:55,360 --> 01:07:58,040
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's totally remarkable. I mean, a true testament to

1479
01:07:58,120 --> 01:08:02,000
Speaker 7: his durability, his toughness, what type of a team player

1480
01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:04,200
Speaker 7: he is. And how many times did we hear Joel

1481
01:08:04,280 --> 01:08:07,480
Speaker 7: complaining about stuff to the meetia. I'm sure port Courtney

1482
01:08:07,560 --> 01:08:09,440
Speaker 7: at home is getting to near full every time he

1483
01:08:09,480 --> 01:08:12,040
Speaker 7: comes to him. But I mean, the misery of going

1484
01:08:12,080 --> 01:08:14,880
Speaker 7: through a season like this is bad enough as a fan,

1485
01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:17,200
Speaker 7: But when you're doing it and you're getting your body

1486
01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:21,760
Speaker 7: decimated with injury, and then you realize, like at some

1487
01:08:21,760 --> 01:08:25,200
Speaker 7: point in the season that it's hopeless, but you're wanting

1488
01:08:25,240 --> 01:08:27,559
Speaker 7: to be out there for your teammates. To me, that

1489
01:08:27,560 --> 01:08:30,040
Speaker 7: that's just everything that you could say about the character

1490
01:08:30,320 --> 01:08:33,840
Speaker 7: of Joel Buttonio and everything that you'd want out of

1491
01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:36,800
Speaker 7: a leader on the offense, a leader on your offensive line.

1492
01:08:37,479 --> 01:08:39,840
Speaker 7: And I really hope he comes back. I mean, he

1493
01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:42,439
Speaker 7: was playing fantastic football at the end of the season,

1494
01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:46,040
Speaker 7: so I would really love to see him continue to play,

1495
01:08:46,120 --> 01:08:48,439
Speaker 7: continue to help this team win a championship, and continue

1496
01:08:48,479 --> 01:08:49,639
Speaker 7: his quest to be a Hall of Famer.

1497
01:08:52,360 --> 01:08:55,080
Speaker 4: What do you think Kevin Stefanski ought to look for

1498
01:08:55,479 --> 01:08:59,240
Speaker 4: in an offensive line coach. I'm hearing through the grave

1499
01:08:59,320 --> 01:09:01,479
Speaker 4: ran there as a hot candidate out of the Munich

1500
01:09:01,560 --> 01:09:05,920
Speaker 4: Ravens operation from a year ago, potentially could be of

1501
01:09:05,960 --> 01:09:06,639
Speaker 4: some interest.

1502
01:09:07,720 --> 01:09:08,800
Speaker 2: What should he look for?

1503
01:09:10,200 --> 01:09:12,960
Speaker 7: Well, I guess if there's enough Schnitzel and promise available

1504
01:09:12,960 --> 01:09:15,280
Speaker 7: for me, I might consider it, and maybe some cole

1505
01:09:15,320 --> 01:09:18,679
Speaker 7: should be here. But you know, I think he wants

1506
01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:22,320
Speaker 7: to find somebody that has a history running the offense

1507
01:09:22,400 --> 01:09:25,839
Speaker 7: that he envisions, right. So I think it's really important

1508
01:09:26,080 --> 01:09:28,200
Speaker 7: to be able to get an offensive line coach that's

1509
01:09:28,240 --> 01:09:30,280
Speaker 7: going to be your eyes and ears in that offensive

1510
01:09:30,280 --> 01:09:32,720
Speaker 7: line meeting, and so you never have to coach your

1511
01:09:32,760 --> 01:09:35,280
Speaker 7: coach on what you want the offensive line to look like,

1512
01:09:35,320 --> 01:09:37,400
Speaker 7: what you want them to detail up. And you had

1513
01:09:37,400 --> 01:09:40,200
Speaker 7: that with Bill Callahan. I guarantee Kevin Stefanski would talk

1514
01:09:40,240 --> 01:09:42,559
Speaker 7: to Bill, but it wasn't like he had to tell

1515
01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:44,280
Speaker 7: him anything what he needed to do. He gave him

1516
01:09:44,320 --> 01:09:46,160
Speaker 7: the plays and he said, hey, what do you think

1517
01:09:46,200 --> 01:09:48,200
Speaker 7: about these? And Bill took it and said great, and

1518
01:09:48,240 --> 01:09:49,880
Speaker 7: then he had a system for everything he wanted to

1519
01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:52,519
Speaker 7: teach to all those guys. And so you want to

1520
01:09:52,520 --> 01:09:55,320
Speaker 7: find an extension of you, extension of your mind. And

1521
01:09:55,520 --> 01:09:59,479
Speaker 7: obviously finding another Bill Callahan not so easy. Uh, but

1522
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:02,639
Speaker 7: you know, finding somebody along that line that has has

1523
01:10:02,680 --> 01:10:05,280
Speaker 7: a long history in the outside the wide zone scheme

1524
01:10:05,320 --> 01:10:07,559
Speaker 7: because it is a lot different to coach that, and

1525
01:10:07,720 --> 01:10:09,120
Speaker 7: I had a lot of learning to do when I

1526
01:10:09,200 --> 01:10:11,800
Speaker 7: was in my sixth season and Kyle Shanahan came in

1527
01:10:11,840 --> 01:10:13,960
Speaker 7: and he brought the scheme in because the techniques are different,

1528
01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:16,439
Speaker 7: the aaming points are different, the coaching points are different,

1529
01:10:16,760 --> 01:10:18,559
Speaker 7: and so I think it's really important to have somebody

1530
01:10:18,560 --> 01:10:21,639
Speaker 7: that you don't have to coach up and teach from

1531
01:10:21,640 --> 01:10:23,800
Speaker 7: the ground up about how to run the outside zone.

1532
01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:26,240
Speaker 7: The waist to Fansky wants.

1533
01:10:27,200 --> 01:10:30,080
Speaker 5: How do you balance as somebody would now you're able

1534
01:10:30,080 --> 01:10:32,439
Speaker 5: to reflect back on your career and you know the

1535
01:10:32,479 --> 01:10:36,920
Speaker 5: difference in Bill Callahan and maybe another coach, and the

1536
01:10:36,960 --> 01:10:40,040
Speaker 5: sense and the question I'm really asking is a lot

1537
01:10:40,080 --> 01:10:42,880
Speaker 5: of times you hear, for example, the guy like Bill Kallahan, Man,

1538
01:10:42,920 --> 01:10:46,120
Speaker 5: he was so hard, practice wasn't fun, all of these things.

1539
01:10:46,160 --> 01:10:47,519
Speaker 5: But then you looked and you say, oh, well you

1540
01:10:47,520 --> 01:10:50,000
Speaker 5: played your best football under Bill Callahan and you got

1541
01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:53,040
Speaker 5: paid more under Bill Callahan and all of those things, versus.

1542
01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:54,360
Speaker 2: Oh, well, this guy's a player's coach.

1543
01:10:54,400 --> 01:10:55,920
Speaker 5: He kind of lets us figure it out, you know

1544
01:10:56,000 --> 01:10:58,760
Speaker 5: what works best for us, but then maybe it's not

1545
01:10:58,880 --> 01:11:01,519
Speaker 5: as good. How do you balance as a player and

1546
01:11:01,560 --> 01:11:03,879
Speaker 5: what should What would be your advice to young players

1547
01:11:04,040 --> 01:11:06,160
Speaker 5: is you know, to me, when I hear players coach,

1548
01:11:06,200 --> 01:11:08,200
Speaker 5: when I hear somebody say to somebody's but I think

1549
01:11:08,200 --> 01:11:11,360
Speaker 5: that that's as a fan of that team, I get

1550
01:11:11,360 --> 01:11:14,920
Speaker 5: nervous because then it feels like it's they must be

1551
01:11:14,920 --> 01:11:17,120
Speaker 5: being too easy. It's buddy buddy and all of that. Like, guess,

1552
01:11:17,160 --> 01:11:19,880
Speaker 5: obviously they're the coaches and you'd like to have good relationships,

1553
01:11:19,880 --> 01:11:21,599
Speaker 5: but at the same time, their job is to make

1554
01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:23,040
Speaker 5: you the best that you can be so that you

1555
01:11:23,080 --> 01:11:24,800
Speaker 5: can have the most success and make the most money.

1556
01:11:24,800 --> 01:11:27,000
Speaker 5: So how what would your advice be to players, and

1557
01:11:27,000 --> 01:11:29,680
Speaker 5: what's kind of your mindset on that.

1558
01:11:31,720 --> 01:11:34,320
Speaker 7: So there's an old saying I remember hearing from my

1559
01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:37,880
Speaker 7: college o line coach Jim Hubert. He always said, there's

1560
01:11:37,920 --> 01:11:40,120
Speaker 7: no fun and offensive line play except when you win.

1561
01:11:40,520 --> 01:11:42,920
Speaker 7: And it's kind of true, right, Like, we're never the

1562
01:11:42,960 --> 01:11:45,679
Speaker 7: guy that's standing in the end zone catching the touchdown pass.

1563
01:11:46,000 --> 01:11:48,720
Speaker 7: We're never the guy that's getting interviewed after a big win. Like,

1564
01:11:49,360 --> 01:11:52,080
Speaker 7: as an offensive lineman, the joy that we get is

1565
01:11:52,520 --> 01:11:56,320
Speaker 7: putting in the work, being mushrooms and celebrating as a

1566
01:11:56,400 --> 01:12:00,880
Speaker 7: team and promoting and providing a platform for those other

1567
01:12:00,920 --> 01:12:04,479
Speaker 7: guys to be stars around you. And so, yeah, it

1568
01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:07,040
Speaker 7: sucks being an offensive lineman. It sucks going to work

1569
01:12:07,080 --> 01:12:10,040
Speaker 7: every day and going out there and smashing skulls against

1570
01:12:10,040 --> 01:12:12,479
Speaker 7: the guy across from you for three hours. It's hard

1571
01:12:12,520 --> 01:12:14,280
Speaker 7: to put in the work, we're learning a skill that

1572
01:12:14,360 --> 01:12:18,120
Speaker 7: is not natural. Like if you're a quarterback or a receiver,

1573
01:12:18,400 --> 01:12:20,680
Speaker 7: you're throwing in catching, You've been doing that since you've

1574
01:12:20,720 --> 01:12:23,280
Speaker 7: been walking in diapers. You know, since you're a year

1575
01:12:23,280 --> 01:12:25,800
Speaker 7: and a half old. You were tossing that football. You

1576
01:12:25,840 --> 01:12:28,519
Speaker 7: were tossing that ball, you were throwing something at your siblings,

1577
01:12:28,520 --> 01:12:31,200
Speaker 7: maybe at the dinner table, like those are natural things

1578
01:12:31,240 --> 01:12:34,519
Speaker 7: like running. Okay, I'm a receiver. I run and catch. Yes,

1579
01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:37,800
Speaker 7: there's details you have to learn, but it's natural. These

1580
01:12:37,800 --> 01:12:39,880
Speaker 7: are the things that the human body has made to do.

1581
01:12:40,000 --> 01:12:43,680
Speaker 7: Like as aligneman, I'm shuffling running backwards sort of, and

1582
01:12:43,720 --> 01:12:46,559
Speaker 7: then I have to stop on a dime and stop

1583
01:12:46,600 --> 01:12:49,120
Speaker 7: another three hundred pound human that's trying to kill my quarterback.

1584
01:12:49,360 --> 01:12:51,680
Speaker 7: These are not things that you can just have in

1585
01:12:51,720 --> 01:12:54,800
Speaker 7: your DNA. You have to practice them over and over again.

1586
01:12:55,400 --> 01:12:57,240
Speaker 7: And it's like a golf swing, right, you have to

1587
01:12:57,320 --> 01:13:00,800
Speaker 7: just repeat it over and over and over again, redundant.

1588
01:13:01,120 --> 01:13:04,160
Speaker 7: It's boring, it hurts, it's painful, it's not fun, but

1589
01:13:04,200 --> 01:13:06,120
Speaker 7: it's the life that you signed up for when you

1590
01:13:06,160 --> 01:13:08,880
Speaker 7: became an offensive lineman. And so the best coaches I've

1591
01:13:08,920 --> 01:13:10,680
Speaker 7: ever been around were the guys that were demanding, and

1592
01:13:10,720 --> 01:13:12,240
Speaker 7: they were the ones that said, hey, this is the

1593
01:13:12,280 --> 01:13:13,599
Speaker 7: way we're going to do it, and if you don't

1594
01:13:13,600 --> 01:13:15,280
Speaker 7: want to do it like that, that's fine, we'll get

1595
01:13:15,280 --> 01:13:17,679
Speaker 7: somebody else. And I think those are the best offensive

1596
01:13:17,680 --> 01:13:21,320
Speaker 7: line coaches. Unfortunately, it's not a glory position. It's not

1597
01:13:21,360 --> 01:13:23,040
Speaker 7: a lot of fun going to practice every day. But

1598
01:13:23,080 --> 01:13:25,080
Speaker 7: you got to find the fun in it, in the

1599
01:13:25,120 --> 01:13:28,639
Speaker 7: willingness to do the other things that people aren't willing

1600
01:13:28,680 --> 01:13:30,800
Speaker 7: to do, and you've got to find a brotherhood and

1601
01:13:30,840 --> 01:13:34,200
Speaker 7: a camaraderie amongst the misery of every single day that

1602
01:13:34,280 --> 01:13:36,200
Speaker 7: you go to practice and you go to meetings, and

1603
01:13:36,200 --> 01:13:37,760
Speaker 7: if you can't do that, you can't be a great

1604
01:13:37,800 --> 01:13:38,519
Speaker 7: offensive lineman.

1605
01:13:40,040 --> 01:13:41,720
Speaker 4: We don't know where this is going to go in

1606
01:13:41,800 --> 01:13:45,560
Speaker 4: terms of the offensive coordinator job. Would you like to

1607
01:13:45,560 --> 01:13:48,040
Speaker 4: see Kevin Stevanski return to play calling hoff.

1608
01:13:49,960 --> 01:13:52,240
Speaker 7: I could definitely see it. I think sometimes the play

1609
01:13:52,360 --> 01:13:56,639
Speaker 7: calling role gets a little bit too much attention because

1610
01:13:56,720 --> 01:13:59,280
Speaker 7: really all the work gets done during the week, and

1611
01:13:59,520 --> 01:14:01,479
Speaker 7: once you have your play sheet, there is a little

1612
01:14:01,520 --> 01:14:03,000
Speaker 7: bit of an art to it and a feel about

1613
01:14:03,000 --> 01:14:05,759
Speaker 7: what you're calling. But it's somewhat collaborative on the sideline,

1614
01:14:06,560 --> 01:14:08,519
Speaker 7: and so, I mean we've seen Andy Reid, He's had

1615
01:14:08,520 --> 01:14:10,320
Speaker 7: a bunch of different guys calling plays. You know, who

1616
01:14:10,400 --> 01:14:12,760
Speaker 7: knows if he's calling plays at certain times. But I

1617
01:14:12,800 --> 01:14:15,400
Speaker 7: think really the bulk of the work it's done during

1618
01:14:15,439 --> 01:14:18,320
Speaker 7: the week, selecting the plays for your situations, and then

1619
01:14:18,360 --> 01:14:20,320
Speaker 7: you're just kind of going down the list on feel

1620
01:14:20,360 --> 01:14:22,799
Speaker 7: and you're getting input from your players and from your coaches,

1621
01:14:22,800 --> 01:14:25,599
Speaker 7: and you're watching things. So whether he calls the plays

1622
01:14:25,680 --> 01:14:28,040
Speaker 7: or not, I'm okay with it. And I think he's

1623
01:14:28,080 --> 01:14:31,200
Speaker 7: already sort of hinted that the guy that is going

1624
01:14:31,280 --> 01:14:32,600
Speaker 7: to be calling the plays is either going to be

1625
01:14:32,680 --> 01:14:34,479
Speaker 7: him or it's going to be somebody that sees the

1626
01:14:34,479 --> 01:14:36,479
Speaker 7: game in the same way he does. So I don't

1627
01:14:36,520 --> 01:14:39,559
Speaker 7: think it'll be really a big deal about necessarily who's

1628
01:14:39,600 --> 01:14:42,280
Speaker 7: going to call the plays physically in the microphone to

1629
01:14:42,360 --> 01:14:46,719
Speaker 7: the quarterbacks headset next year, as long.

1630
01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:48,280
Speaker 5: As it's right they see it through the same eyes.

1631
01:14:48,479 --> 01:14:52,200
Speaker 5: I've I think Kevin's one coach the year twice doing it.

1632
01:14:52,240 --> 01:14:53,680
Speaker 5: I think yeah, got the job because he did it.

1633
01:14:54,120 --> 01:14:55,519
Speaker 5: I'd like to see him do it. I do think

1634
01:14:55,560 --> 01:14:59,720
Speaker 5: there's something to right take, you know, when you were

1635
01:14:59,760 --> 01:15:03,479
Speaker 5: here with Kyle, the guys that are in that, I

1636
01:15:03,520 --> 01:15:04,040
Speaker 5: just think they do.

1637
01:15:04,200 --> 01:15:06,000
Speaker 2: They know how to sequence it so.

1638
01:15:06,040 --> 01:15:08,840
Speaker 5: Well, and that maybe is more like the feel for

1639
01:15:08,920 --> 01:15:11,800
Speaker 5: the sequencing of them, We're gonna do this, then we're

1640
01:15:11,800 --> 01:15:14,840
Speaker 5: gonna do this something that looks exactly the same of that,

1641
01:15:14,920 --> 01:15:16,360
Speaker 5: and we're gonna pull it out. We're gonna hit this now,

1642
01:15:16,360 --> 01:15:17,760
Speaker 5: we're gonna make it look like we're doing the second,

1643
01:15:17,800 --> 01:15:19,679
Speaker 5: but we're actually going back to the first with different

1644
01:15:19,680 --> 01:15:21,240
Speaker 5: personnel groupings, different formations.

1645
01:15:21,560 --> 01:15:23,280
Speaker 2: Is that sequencing Is that something.

1646
01:15:23,000 --> 01:15:24,679
Speaker 5: That you could feel when you were on the field,

1647
01:15:24,680 --> 01:15:26,200
Speaker 5: that when you had somebody who was in a good

1648
01:15:26,240 --> 01:15:28,599
Speaker 5: rhythm with the sequencing, that you always kind of had

1649
01:15:28,640 --> 01:15:29,800
Speaker 5: the defense on its toes.

1650
01:15:31,120 --> 01:15:33,479
Speaker 7: Oh. Absolutely, And I think that's an important point. Like

1651
01:15:34,320 --> 01:15:37,880
Speaker 7: when we had Kyle Shanahan as our offensive coordinator, he

1652
01:15:38,080 --> 01:15:41,080
Speaker 7: was going through that in our Friday and Saturday meetings, like, Hey,

1653
01:15:41,120 --> 01:15:43,400
Speaker 7: we're going to run this play first, and then when

1654
01:15:43,439 --> 01:15:45,360
Speaker 7: they do this, they're going to overplay it and they're

1655
01:15:45,360 --> 01:15:47,599
Speaker 7: going to open up this right. So he was explaining

1656
01:15:47,600 --> 01:15:51,320
Speaker 7: that during the week and if you don't have that

1657
01:15:51,520 --> 01:15:55,599
Speaker 7: feel as an offensive coordinator probably shouldn't be an offensive coordinator. Now,

1658
01:15:55,640 --> 01:15:59,280
Speaker 7: maybe there's nobody that Kevin can hire that has that

1659
01:15:59,400 --> 01:16:02,200
Speaker 7: feel and that sequencing the way he does, and so

1660
01:16:02,280 --> 01:16:04,879
Speaker 7: then he should do it absolutely. And then the offensive

1661
01:16:04,920 --> 01:16:07,280
Speaker 7: coordinator at that point just becomes somebody who's sort of

1662
01:16:07,280 --> 01:16:09,639
Speaker 7: helping carry the water a little bit during the week

1663
01:16:09,680 --> 01:16:13,040
Speaker 7: and filling in where there's some gaps and you know

1664
01:16:13,080 --> 01:16:15,240
Speaker 7: the amount of work that has to get done, and

1665
01:16:15,320 --> 01:16:18,880
Speaker 7: maybe that guy specializes a little bit more in coaching quarterbacks.

1666
01:16:19,240 --> 01:16:22,960
Speaker 7: Then I would expect Kevin to definitely absolutely do the

1667
01:16:23,000 --> 01:16:26,600
Speaker 7: game they play calling role. But I would hope that

1668
01:16:26,680 --> 01:16:29,120
Speaker 7: there's somebody out there that has a great feel for

1669
01:16:29,160 --> 01:16:32,839
Speaker 7: sequencing and set up and the art to calling plays

1670
01:16:32,880 --> 01:16:35,559
Speaker 7: on offense. Otherwise I would assume that then Kevin would

1671
01:16:35,560 --> 01:16:38,400
Speaker 7: want that role. He's only going to put somebody in

1672
01:16:38,439 --> 01:16:41,559
Speaker 7: that role of calling the plays on Sundays if they're

1673
01:16:41,560 --> 01:16:44,120
Speaker 7: going to see the game the exact way that he does.

1674
01:16:44,880 --> 01:16:46,599
Speaker 4: It's interesting you bring up you guys, bring up Kyle,

1675
01:16:46,640 --> 01:16:48,920
Speaker 4: And we were thinking about this because when Todd Munkin

1676
01:16:49,040 --> 01:16:51,599
Speaker 4: was here, Zee and I were like, Wow, that guy,

1677
01:16:52,040 --> 01:16:54,200
Speaker 4: that guy's brilliant, and we knew he'd be brilliant at

1678
01:16:54,240 --> 01:16:56,639
Speaker 4: Georgia you need'd be brilliant with the ravens he has been.

1679
01:16:57,680 --> 01:17:00,800
Speaker 5: When you were with Kyle Hoff was it. Did you

1680
01:17:00,880 --> 01:17:02,439
Speaker 5: know that he was going to be capable of what

1681
01:17:02,520 --> 01:17:02,920
Speaker 5: he's been?

1682
01:17:05,479 --> 01:17:07,479
Speaker 7: Oh? Yeah, I mean you could see it from his

1683
01:17:07,600 --> 01:17:10,240
Speaker 7: very first meeting. The way he encourages guys and empowers

1684
01:17:10,320 --> 01:17:13,439
Speaker 7: guys to like really understand how good you can be.

1685
01:17:13,720 --> 01:17:16,560
Speaker 7: And I always thought he was the best motivator I

1686
01:17:16,560 --> 01:17:18,439
Speaker 7: ever had. And it wasn't because he gave the world's

1687
01:17:18,439 --> 01:17:20,759
Speaker 7: greatest for our speeches. I mean, he could get you motivated,

1688
01:17:20,760 --> 01:17:23,559
Speaker 7: but the way he got you motivated was empowering you

1689
01:17:23,600 --> 01:17:26,200
Speaker 7: to believe that, hey, we are set up with a

1690
01:17:26,200 --> 01:17:29,040
Speaker 7: better scheme and better play calling than the guy across

1691
01:17:29,040 --> 01:17:30,920
Speaker 7: from me, and if I just do my job, do

1692
01:17:30,960 --> 01:17:33,439
Speaker 7: what I'm supposed to do, We're going to roll these dudes.

1693
01:17:33,720 --> 01:17:36,439
Speaker 7: And the way you get excited in the NFL is

1694
01:17:36,760 --> 01:17:39,920
Speaker 7: with wins, success, being able to get the next contract,

1695
01:17:40,160 --> 01:17:43,000
Speaker 7: being able to celebrate with your teammates, like those are

1696
01:17:43,040 --> 01:17:45,519
Speaker 7: all the things that I think he fostered as an

1697
01:17:45,520 --> 01:17:48,720
Speaker 7: offensive coordinator. And it was really fun because I mean

1698
01:17:48,720 --> 01:17:52,639
Speaker 7: he opened my eyes specifically up to that whole way

1699
01:17:52,640 --> 01:17:55,040
Speaker 7: of doing things with the outside zone and the play

1700
01:17:55,080 --> 01:17:59,080
Speaker 7: action and seeing how there's a marriage between what we

1701
01:17:59,160 --> 01:18:00,600
Speaker 7: do in the run game and how it looks to

1702
01:18:00,640 --> 01:18:03,800
Speaker 7: a defense when we now play action pass. So I

1703
01:18:03,840 --> 01:18:06,680
Speaker 7: think up until that point, I've never really seen that

1704
01:18:06,840 --> 01:18:09,240
Speaker 7: a play action passing game can look just like your

1705
01:18:09,320 --> 01:18:12,040
Speaker 7: running game. And so it got us excited to go

1706
01:18:12,080 --> 01:18:13,439
Speaker 7: to every game, and he didn't have to raise his

1707
01:18:13,520 --> 01:18:17,040
Speaker 7: voice one time, and just showing us how much better

1708
01:18:17,040 --> 01:18:18,680
Speaker 7: and more well prepared we were going to be to

1709
01:18:18,720 --> 01:18:21,639
Speaker 7: attack a defense. That's all the motivation that we needed.

1710
01:18:21,800 --> 01:18:25,000
Speaker 7: And so I think guys that have that you can

1711
01:18:25,120 --> 01:18:27,160
Speaker 7: just see and you can feel it when you're in

1712
01:18:27,160 --> 01:18:27,799
Speaker 7: those meetings.

1713
01:18:28,720 --> 01:18:30,479
Speaker 5: So is that one of the first times that you experience,

1714
01:18:30,560 --> 01:18:33,719
Speaker 5: for example, you know, you watch some of the play

1715
01:18:33,720 --> 01:18:36,400
Speaker 5: action passing concepts and you'll full on have the pullers,

1716
01:18:36,439 --> 01:18:38,120
Speaker 5: which are just supposed to be the eye candy to

1717
01:18:38,120 --> 01:18:40,559
Speaker 5: distract the linebackers and make them believe that it's a run.

1718
01:18:40,680 --> 01:18:43,080
Speaker 5: That was kind of Kyle introduced some of those types

1719
01:18:43,120 --> 01:18:45,880
Speaker 5: of things to you on that level, I guess.

1720
01:18:46,439 --> 01:18:48,400
Speaker 7: Yeah, for sure, and it was great and it was

1721
01:18:48,439 --> 01:18:51,679
Speaker 7: a philosophical shift. So up until that point, I'd had

1722
01:18:52,080 --> 01:18:55,360
Speaker 7: four or five offensive coordinators, and they all ran somewhat

1723
01:18:55,520 --> 01:18:58,640
Speaker 7: similar offenses, you know, pro style North Turner and you know,

1724
01:18:58,680 --> 01:19:02,240
Speaker 7: throw the ball down the field type stuff. But the

1725
01:19:02,320 --> 01:19:04,960
Speaker 7: onus on protection was always on the offensive line. So

1726
01:19:05,000 --> 01:19:07,639
Speaker 7: they would always say, all right, there's a play action

1727
01:19:07,720 --> 01:19:10,040
Speaker 7: you know, we're running power pass or we're running you know,

1728
01:19:10,080 --> 01:19:14,280
Speaker 7: waggle pass, some version of like play action zone. But

1729
01:19:14,880 --> 01:19:17,880
Speaker 7: if they blitz here, or if this linebacker walks up,

1730
01:19:18,080 --> 01:19:20,720
Speaker 7: screw the fake, just block them. Because they were so

1731
01:19:20,920 --> 01:19:24,479
Speaker 7: afraid of getting the quarterback hit that it was always

1732
01:19:24,560 --> 01:19:27,360
Speaker 7: on us. Whereas Kyle came in and goes, I don't

1733
01:19:27,360 --> 01:19:29,479
Speaker 7: care what they're doing. It's up to the quarterback to

1734
01:19:29,560 --> 01:19:32,400
Speaker 7: understand that, Hey, if the corner's coming and it's hot, like,

1735
01:19:32,479 --> 01:19:34,280
Speaker 7: that's on him, or maybe the running back can pick

1736
01:19:34,320 --> 01:19:36,720
Speaker 7: it up. But we have to sell it, make it

1737
01:19:36,760 --> 01:19:39,800
Speaker 7: look sound feel like the run, and then that's what's

1738
01:19:39,840 --> 01:19:41,400
Speaker 7: going to open things up. And you know what if

1739
01:19:41,400 --> 01:19:43,240
Speaker 7: they get us once in a game and they hit

1740
01:19:43,280 --> 01:19:45,960
Speaker 7: our quarterback because we're selling the run and we're not

1741
01:19:46,080 --> 01:19:49,320
Speaker 7: as worried about protection in the first two seconds of

1742
01:19:49,320 --> 01:19:52,280
Speaker 7: the play, like that's okay, put that on me. And

1743
01:19:52,320 --> 01:19:54,679
Speaker 7: that was the philosophical change that I'd never heard before.

1744
01:19:54,720 --> 01:19:57,400
Speaker 7: But it makes the difference of does it actually look

1745
01:19:57,439 --> 01:20:00,400
Speaker 7: like the run or does an offensive lineman always have

1746
01:20:00,479 --> 01:20:02,920
Speaker 7: that get out of jail free card. Well, the linebackers

1747
01:20:02,920 --> 01:20:05,920
Speaker 7: started creeping, so I didn't run my fake. I didn't

1748
01:20:06,120 --> 01:20:09,200
Speaker 7: act like I was double teaming with the defensive the

1749
01:20:09,479 --> 01:20:12,320
Speaker 7: offensive tackle and the defensive end because I was worried

1750
01:20:12,360 --> 01:20:14,519
Speaker 7: about to run through, which is what it always ended

1751
01:20:14,600 --> 01:20:16,200
Speaker 7: up being. That's why I never looked like to run.

1752
01:20:16,600 --> 01:20:19,600
Speaker 7: But I think to be able to unlock the potential

1753
01:20:19,720 --> 01:20:21,519
Speaker 7: of play action passed on the field, you have to

1754
01:20:21,560 --> 01:20:22,760
Speaker 7: make it look like the run, and you have to

1755
01:20:22,760 --> 01:20:25,840
Speaker 7: be willing to have the quarterback get hit occasionally. But

1756
01:20:25,920 --> 01:20:28,439
Speaker 7: as you guys have seen, like when those offenses are

1757
01:20:28,479 --> 01:20:32,000
Speaker 7: are cooking, it looks so much like the run that

1758
01:20:32,160 --> 01:20:34,240
Speaker 7: even when you do play action pass, those linebackers are

1759
01:20:34,280 --> 01:20:36,720
Speaker 7: running sideways so fast. Oh, they're not even seeing the

1760
01:20:36,800 --> 01:20:38,520
Speaker 7: quarterback the football.

1761
01:20:38,800 --> 01:20:40,320
Speaker 5: And that's how guys are so open in the middle

1762
01:20:40,320 --> 01:20:43,559
Speaker 5: of the field and exactly such a cerebral quarterback.

1763
01:20:43,600 --> 01:20:44,120
Speaker 7: I'll do it.

1764
01:20:44,240 --> 01:20:46,080
Speaker 2: Yes, you have to have to see it. You have

1765
01:20:46,160 --> 01:20:47,680
Speaker 2: to see it processing.

1766
01:20:47,720 --> 01:20:52,040
Speaker 4: Off Uh, who is your non Miles Garrett MVP for

1767
01:20:52,080 --> 01:20:53,920
Speaker 4: this season for your Cleveland Browns.

1768
01:20:54,439 --> 01:20:57,120
Speaker 3: Jerry Judy. Yeah, I like that.

1769
01:20:57,760 --> 01:20:58,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's an easy one.

1770
01:20:58,840 --> 01:21:02,120
Speaker 4: That is what is your We will start the wild

1771
01:21:02,200 --> 01:21:05,240
Speaker 4: card round this week? What is your super Bowl right now?

1772
01:21:05,920 --> 01:21:07,920
Speaker 4: And who do you have winning it? As we kick

1773
01:21:07,960 --> 01:21:08,479
Speaker 4: this thing.

1774
01:21:08,320 --> 01:21:16,360
Speaker 7: Off, Detroit and Buffalo in my super Bowl and I've

1775
01:21:16,360 --> 01:21:19,839
Speaker 7: got Buffalo winning it, that would.

1776
01:21:19,680 --> 01:21:21,760
Speaker 2: Be that's ultimate. That's the dream super Bowl for me

1777
01:21:21,800 --> 01:21:22,080
Speaker 2: this year.

1778
01:21:22,080 --> 01:21:25,800
Speaker 4: That would be couches upon Couches on fire. Oh yeah,

1779
01:21:26,080 --> 01:21:29,240
Speaker 4: that's that's super Bowl if it's Buffalo and Detroit either way,

1780
01:21:29,439 --> 01:21:33,400
Speaker 4: new Winter, new winner, historic legendary fan bases.

1781
01:21:33,640 --> 01:21:35,840
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, that's that's what I want. That's why I'm

1782
01:21:35,880 --> 01:21:38,320
Speaker 5: trying to will will yeah happen. Yeah, I'd love to

1783
01:21:38,360 --> 01:21:38,960
Speaker 5: see that one too.

1784
01:21:39,000 --> 01:21:39,960
Speaker 3: We're willing to, Buddy.

1785
01:21:40,120 --> 01:21:42,640
Speaker 7: I'd like to see Detroit win. I'll be there and

1786
01:21:42,800 --> 01:21:45,800
Speaker 7: I've got some NFL duties at the super Bowl, so

1787
01:21:45,800 --> 01:21:49,759
Speaker 7: I'll be on the side how doing the any stadium hosting.

1788
01:21:49,760 --> 01:21:52,960
Speaker 7: I'm looking forward to that and as a long time

1789
01:21:53,040 --> 01:21:56,000
Speaker 7: Brown fan, former player, to see two teams that have

1790
01:21:56,040 --> 01:21:58,920
Speaker 7: never been there, never won it. Uh sorry, they've been there,

1791
01:21:59,080 --> 01:22:02,200
Speaker 7: they haven't won. It would be really special. I'd be

1792
01:22:02,320 --> 01:22:05,200
Speaker 7: cheering for Detroit in that situation. I love Dan Campbell,

1793
01:22:05,200 --> 01:22:08,200
Speaker 7: I love everything that they stand for. But to me,

1794
01:22:08,439 --> 01:22:09,960
Speaker 7: I think that's the dream super Bowl. That's what the

1795
01:22:10,040 --> 01:22:12,200
Speaker 7: NFL wants. That's what this guy over here that's sitting

1796
01:22:12,240 --> 01:22:14,040
Speaker 7: in skidloader in Wisconsin wants.

1797
01:22:14,600 --> 01:22:16,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh, skidloader, what work do you have ahead of you?

1798
01:22:16,960 --> 01:22:18,080
Speaker 2: Chot there Hof.

1799
01:22:18,320 --> 01:22:22,080
Speaker 7: Yeah, so yeah, we're removing some sedars from our pasture.

1800
01:22:22,880 --> 01:22:24,599
Speaker 7: As you know, they suck up a lot of water

1801
01:22:24,600 --> 01:22:27,040
Speaker 7: and the soil can't have them. So got the changs

1802
01:22:27,080 --> 01:22:29,439
Speaker 7: on the skidloader out, grinding them babies up, getting some

1803
01:22:29,720 --> 01:22:31,599
Speaker 7: winter work done, getting out of schedule here.

1804
01:22:32,400 --> 01:22:33,800
Speaker 3: I love when you're putting in the good work.

1805
01:22:34,120 --> 01:22:36,479
Speaker 2: That's beautiful. Alright, buddy, thanks for your time. We'll talk

1806
01:22:36,479 --> 01:22:37,000
Speaker 2: to again soon.

1807
01:22:37,800 --> 01:22:39,559
Speaker 7: Hey, appreciate you guys, Thanks for having me on.

1808
01:22:40,680 --> 01:22:44,439
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1822
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1823
01:23:32,680 --> 01:23:34,759
Speaker 4: is doctor z Well.

1824
01:23:35,840 --> 01:23:38,519
Speaker 5: Not a whole lot positive happened out there, But you

1825
01:23:38,600 --> 01:23:40,200
Speaker 5: got to tip your cap to a couple of people,

1826
01:23:40,280 --> 01:23:42,680
Speaker 5: certainly on the Browns offense. And the first would be

1827
01:23:43,720 --> 01:23:45,200
Speaker 5: they'll can have the letter J in common.

1828
01:23:45,200 --> 01:23:47,160
Speaker 2: How about that? I'm a little teaser for you, diego.

1829
01:23:47,320 --> 01:23:48,040
Speaker 2: Joel Botonio.

1830
01:23:49,120 --> 01:23:52,400
Speaker 5: Joel Batonio played more snaps than anyone on offense in

1831
01:23:52,439 --> 01:23:54,000
Speaker 5: the NFL this year. I actually just looked up there

1832
01:23:54,000 --> 01:23:56,519
Speaker 5: are two defenders on the Carolina Panthers who actually played

1833
01:23:56,520 --> 01:23:58,599
Speaker 5: over twelve hundred snaps a piece this year. But as

1834
01:23:58,600 --> 01:24:01,680
Speaker 5: far as offense goes, joeltone. He played the most and

1835
01:24:01,720 --> 01:24:05,720
Speaker 5: played with great aplomb, and kudos to him. Number two

1836
01:24:06,720 --> 01:24:10,040
Speaker 5: double j Jerry Judy six catches sets the new franchise

1837
01:24:10,120 --> 01:24:14,599
Speaker 5: mark six for sixty three in this game. Finishes ninety

1838
01:24:14,640 --> 01:24:18,479
Speaker 5: catches twelve hundred and twenty nine yards at sixth most

1839
01:24:18,560 --> 01:24:22,040
Speaker 5: in the NFL this season, and four touchdowns Career highs

1840
01:24:22,040 --> 01:24:26,240
Speaker 5: and catches and yards for Jerry Judy. Another Jay Jordan Akins.

1841
01:24:26,720 --> 01:24:28,680
Speaker 5: Jordan Akins actually in some of the games where he

1842
01:24:28,840 --> 01:24:33,800
Speaker 5: had to step in for David Djoko and actually got

1843
01:24:33,880 --> 01:24:35,680
Speaker 5: some good targets and this one eight targets. He had

1844
01:24:35,720 --> 01:24:37,719
Speaker 5: six catches for sixty yards and a touchdown.

1845
01:24:38,080 --> 01:24:40,080
Speaker 2: Played well. He's much more of a move tight.

1846
01:24:39,960 --> 01:24:43,320
Speaker 5: End than he is a blocking tight end, but good

1847
01:24:43,439 --> 01:24:47,959
Speaker 5: job from him there. And then the final one Jacob Cabodi.

1848
01:24:48,439 --> 01:24:51,320
Speaker 5: Jacob Cabodi had about a thirty year college career, a kid,

1849
01:24:51,360 --> 01:24:53,840
Speaker 5: but not really out of Louisiana Lafayette.

1850
01:24:54,240 --> 01:24:55,080
Speaker 2: We hadn't seen him.

1851
01:24:55,080 --> 01:24:58,479
Speaker 5: This was his NFL debut and he did a pretty

1852
01:24:58,880 --> 01:25:02,040
Speaker 5: darn good job. Five carries for twenty four yards, one

1853
01:25:02,080 --> 01:25:03,840
Speaker 5: catch for fifteen yards that had to be a cool

1854
01:25:03,960 --> 01:25:05,639
Speaker 5: thrill for him.

1855
01:25:06,479 --> 01:25:07,639
Speaker 2: Caught a pass did great.

1856
01:25:07,680 --> 01:25:09,320
Speaker 5: And then the other guy, this is not a j

1857
01:25:09,479 --> 01:25:12,240
Speaker 5: but he's BB Brendan Bates, who's another guy making his

1858
01:25:12,520 --> 01:25:15,640
Speaker 5: NFL debut, and while he did not have the opportunity

1859
01:25:15,680 --> 01:25:20,760
Speaker 5: to necessarily catch a pass, looked pretty good on the

1860
01:25:20,800 --> 01:25:22,720
Speaker 5: kick returns. I'm sorry, Caden Davis, That's what I meant.

1861
01:25:22,960 --> 01:25:24,960
Speaker 5: Dave Brennabates was a Titan, Kan Davis. He had three

1862
01:25:24,960 --> 01:25:27,439
Speaker 5: catches for one hundred and our three returns for one

1863
01:25:27,479 --> 01:25:29,840
Speaker 5: hundred and seven yards thirty five a return at a

1864
01:25:29,880 --> 01:25:30,519
Speaker 5: long of forty.

1865
01:25:30,760 --> 01:25:31,840
Speaker 2: So a couple of guys that you know.

1866
01:25:31,880 --> 01:25:35,479
Speaker 5: We were just trying to get some action out there,

1867
01:25:36,040 --> 01:25:38,240
Speaker 5: got some action and did good and hopefully, you know,

1868
01:25:38,280 --> 01:25:41,120
Speaker 5: for guys like that, it gives them an opportunity to maybe,

1869
01:25:41,160 --> 01:25:42,479
Speaker 5: you know, stay on the Price squad, to get into

1870
01:25:42,520 --> 01:25:44,800
Speaker 5: training camps and then get another crack at living out

1871
01:25:44,800 --> 01:25:45,600
Speaker 5: their dreams.

1872
01:25:46,120 --> 01:25:49,240
Speaker 4: And that is your Microsoft minute. It's powered by Microsoft's surface,

1873
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Speaker 4: powering a better game. I did a couple of things

1874
01:25:53,080 --> 01:25:56,600
Speaker 4: I saw just from everything that happened in yesterday in

1875
01:25:56,640 --> 01:25:58,680
Speaker 4: the NFL. I did find this one funny. We I

1876
01:25:58,720 --> 01:26:01,080
Speaker 4: think we have this Kevin from around the sports world,

1877
01:26:02,240 --> 01:26:07,400
Speaker 4: Rex Ryan on how he would handle Aaron Rodgers if

1878
01:26:07,400 --> 01:26:09,280
Speaker 4: he were the head coach hired as the head coach

1879
01:26:09,280 --> 01:26:11,240
Speaker 4: of the Jets, a job that he has interviewed for.

1880
01:26:11,520 --> 01:26:12,320
Speaker 2: Here's Rex Ryan.

1881
01:26:12,600 --> 01:26:14,439
Speaker 6: Clearly, when you have a guy that doesn't show up

1882
01:26:14,479 --> 01:26:16,960
Speaker 6: for mandatory mini camp, and by the way, he's your

1883
01:26:17,000 --> 01:26:20,040
Speaker 6: quarterback coming off an injury, I think that's an absolutely

1884
01:26:20,160 --> 01:26:23,040
Speaker 6: ridiculous message you sent to the team. If he comes back,

1885
01:26:23,200 --> 01:26:25,759
Speaker 6: things would be different. If he's back. It ain't gonna

1886
01:26:25,800 --> 01:26:28,519
Speaker 6: be the the country club, you know, show up whenever

1887
01:26:28,560 --> 01:26:29,640
Speaker 6: the hell you want to show up.

1888
01:26:29,720 --> 01:26:32,200
Speaker 3: That ain't gonna happen. So I'll just leave it at that.

1889
01:26:34,720 --> 01:26:36,559
Speaker 2: I mean, he's not wrong, he's not.

1890
01:26:37,040 --> 01:26:39,920
Speaker 4: But the idea that if he would have been the

1891
01:26:39,920 --> 01:26:42,920
Speaker 4: coach of the Jets when Aaron Rodgers was acquired, that

1892
01:26:42,960 --> 01:26:46,360
Speaker 4: he would have taken this tone with him is utter nonsense. Agree,

1893
01:26:46,400 --> 01:26:48,599
Speaker 4: it's very easy to say this now when there's clearly

1894
01:26:48,640 --> 01:26:50,360
Speaker 4: going to have to do it between the Jets and

1895
01:26:50,439 --> 01:26:52,559
Speaker 4: Rogers and you don't have to deal with it, yep.

1896
01:26:52,880 --> 01:26:54,800
Speaker 4: So to act as if you would behave in a

1897
01:26:54,800 --> 01:26:57,440
Speaker 4: way different than Robert solid did is utter nonsense.

1898
01:26:57,680 --> 01:26:59,120
Speaker 2: Robert Sally got a pretty rod deal.

1899
01:26:59,760 --> 01:27:01,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, he got a raw deal. I don't even think

1900
01:27:01,600 --> 01:27:06,040
Speaker 4: Rogers wanted Soligan. Honestly, if you read that, there was

1901
01:27:06,080 --> 01:27:08,320
Speaker 4: that story right around when it all happened about how

1902
01:27:08,560 --> 01:27:11,639
Speaker 4: because Woody Johnson, remember the Rauscini story, Woody Johnson wanted

1903
01:27:11,720 --> 01:27:12,760
Speaker 4: him to bench Rogers and.

1904
01:27:12,680 --> 01:27:14,000
Speaker 2: Saul was like, we're not benching him.

1905
01:27:14,760 --> 01:27:17,960
Speaker 4: And that's what led to it, Like there was a

1906
01:27:18,000 --> 01:27:20,280
Speaker 4: lot of animosity between Woody Johnson.

1907
01:27:20,000 --> 01:27:22,120
Speaker 2: And Aaron Rodgers that was well because.

1908
01:27:21,800 --> 01:27:29,760
Speaker 5: Of obvious reasons that are not football related. Yeah. I

1909
01:27:29,800 --> 01:27:31,960
Speaker 5: think it's incredible when in an end of the year

1910
01:27:32,560 --> 01:27:35,679
Speaker 5: press conference and owner of an NFL team, in this case,

1911
01:27:35,680 --> 01:27:38,360
Speaker 5: Woody Johnson has to make a statement that his teenage

1912
01:27:38,360 --> 01:27:41,760
Speaker 5: son is actually not involved in football decisions, that he

1913
01:27:43,320 --> 01:27:44,120
Speaker 5: has to say.

1914
01:27:43,960 --> 01:27:46,639
Speaker 2: That that was set out loud, out loud.

1915
01:27:46,960 --> 01:27:50,639
Speaker 5: Yeah, like two days yesterday or two days whenever he spoke. Yes,

1916
01:27:50,880 --> 01:27:53,160
Speaker 5: that was set out loud because of the Russini story,

1917
01:27:53,160 --> 01:27:54,880
Speaker 5: which certainly made it seem like perhaps.

1918
01:27:54,600 --> 01:27:57,320
Speaker 2: He it was all about Maddiam Ratings. Remember they'd have

1919
01:27:57,400 --> 01:28:01,040
Speaker 2: something to do with it. Yeah, yeah, jeez, I don't

1920
01:28:01,080 --> 01:28:03,720
Speaker 2: know that job. Who takes that job? I think that's

1921
01:28:04,320 --> 01:28:07,200
Speaker 2: of the jobs that are open. Who takes that job.

1922
01:28:07,920 --> 01:28:08,360
Speaker 3: That one.

1923
01:28:09,080 --> 01:28:13,280
Speaker 5: Vegas is Vegas open? Oh no, I guess it's not yet.

1924
01:28:13,720 --> 01:28:16,599
Speaker 5: New Orleans is a tough spot too. You saw Derek carry,

1925
01:28:16,600 --> 01:28:18,880
Speaker 5: he says he's not He's taking all of his money.

1926
01:28:18,920 --> 01:28:20,040
Speaker 5: He's no discount on everything.

1927
01:28:20,080 --> 01:28:20,479
Speaker 2: I'm getting.

1928
01:28:20,479 --> 01:28:23,519
Speaker 4: All of my forty is coming my way. So there's

1929
01:28:23,560 --> 01:28:27,080
Speaker 4: New Orleans Jets. Those are two at the bottom. I

1930
01:28:27,080 --> 01:28:29,400
Speaker 4: think all the rest you can find, it's all. Some

1931
01:28:29,439 --> 01:28:31,160
Speaker 4: of them are really good. I think Patriots is a

1932
01:28:31,200 --> 01:28:32,759
Speaker 4: really good job right now. And I think the Bears,

1933
01:28:32,760 --> 01:28:35,240
Speaker 4: despite some of the organizational stuff, I think that's a

1934
01:28:35,240 --> 01:28:37,280
Speaker 4: decent job too. But the Patriots and the and the

1935
01:28:37,360 --> 01:28:38,439
Speaker 4: Jaguars jobs are great.

1936
01:28:38,640 --> 01:28:39,760
Speaker 3: Jags is the.

1937
01:28:39,720 --> 01:28:41,280
Speaker 2: Only thing there is. You got to deal with Balky.

1938
01:28:43,160 --> 01:28:44,320
Speaker 2: They have a lot of loyalty too.

1939
01:28:44,520 --> 01:28:49,040
Speaker 5: If you are a fan of the funk Man or

1940
01:28:49,080 --> 01:28:51,479
Speaker 5: Super Dave Osborne in general, I feel like you'd find

1941
01:28:51,479 --> 01:28:52,920
Speaker 5: a way to get along with Ball because he sounds

1942
01:28:52,920 --> 01:28:53,400
Speaker 5: just like him.

1943
01:28:53,720 --> 01:28:55,479
Speaker 2: Just close your eyes and pretend to talking to super Day.

1944
01:28:55,840 --> 01:28:59,400
Speaker 4: There's a marathon on curve running last night, pure joy.

1945
01:28:59,439 --> 01:29:01,719
Speaker 4: When I stumble than that after the Montana State loss,

1946
01:29:01,840 --> 01:29:02,880
Speaker 4: it was just to pick me up.

1947
01:29:02,880 --> 01:29:04,960
Speaker 3: I needed bous what'd you word?

1948
01:29:04,960 --> 01:29:06,920
Speaker 2: You jump in? What's in a second? Boosher?

1949
01:29:06,960 --> 01:29:08,639
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