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Speaker 2: coming up in a few minutes. NBC four our local station,

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Speaker 2: they did a lengthy report on the origins of the fire,

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Speaker 2: the rekindled fire in the Palisades, and Roger Bailey was

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Speaker 2: got quite a bit of time on the report. He's

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Speaker 2: the attorney for the thousands of Palisades residents who are

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Speaker 2: filing a lawsuit.

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Speaker 1: He's the lead attorney.

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Speaker 2: There's a number of them, and he's been on the

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Speaker 2: show with us to talk about these state employees who

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Speaker 2: decided to chase out the Los Angeles Fire Department and

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Speaker 2: protect the milk Vetch plans. What they showed in this

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Speaker 2: story is something I've been dying to see, actual video

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Speaker 2: of the depositions that two employees gave to Bailey, and

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Speaker 2: Bailey gave the video to Channel four and they ran

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Speaker 2: it as part of the story. So you're going to

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Speaker 2: be able to hear what these two sounded like we'll

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Speaker 2: play the report and will be isolating the audio of

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Speaker 2: the two employees because these are the ones who may

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Speaker 2: have mucked up the mop up operation which caused the

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Speaker 2: fire to rekind them. And we'll get to that coming

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Speaker 2: up a little later in the hour. But first, Michael Monks,

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Speaker 2: who did you personally endure this listening to the governor's

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Speaker 2: State of the State speech?

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Speaker 1: I did tune in to the governors State of the states.

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Speaker 1: Did do that? Well?

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Speaker 3: Bless you you do. I knew you were going to

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Speaker 3: need this that nobody wants to do.

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Speaker 2: All right, stated state beech speech, which he hasn't given

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Speaker 2: one in person in a few years.

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Speaker 3: He would just send out letters to be what he said,

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Speaker 3: is he he loves to Nobody questions him on that.

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Speaker 1: He says.

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Speaker 3: He's even a little long winded. The speech was a

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Speaker 3: little over an hour. But he struggles with the written word.

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Speaker 3: He does so he can't read as well. Yes, so

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Speaker 3: he's got, you know, his dyslexia problem, and so this

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Speaker 3: was why he or maybe it's the ninety three IQ. Well,

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Speaker 3: either way he did. The speech was delivered well as

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Speaker 3: far as like performance. I didn't see a lot of struggling,

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Speaker 3: but if I were to ask you, John, and you

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Speaker 3: I think it's fair to characterize you as a critic

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Speaker 3: of governors. Okay, sure critics say, let's say Governor Newsom

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Speaker 3: launches a presidential campaign, which he has not done yet.

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Speaker 3: What are some of the key points that you would

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Speaker 3: point to as a critic that you would expect Republicans

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Speaker 3: or even other Democrats to pen on Governor Newsom as

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Speaker 3: failures in California.

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Speaker 1: Homelessness would be a big failure.

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Speaker 2: The massive spending connected to the massive taxes that we

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Speaker 2: pay in the state just for starters.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, sure, you're you're not You're not wrong, and that's

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Speaker 3: what I would expect a well. So he did address

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Speaker 3: everything had on this speech felt like his defense of

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Speaker 3: California as great and that it is completely misrepresented in

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Speaker 3: the national narrative, specially in Republican talking points. As for

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Speaker 3: the spending part, we'll hear more about that tomorrow when

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Speaker 3: he releases his proposed state budget, so we will know

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Speaker 3: a little bit more about that tomorrow. But he did

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Speaker 3: talk about homelessness directly, and here's what he said.

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Speaker 4: We crafted new statewide programs. Just think about this, don't

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Speaker 4: forget about it. You funded home Key, you funded Project

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Speaker 4: room Key that together have taken quite literally politi fact

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Speaker 4: this seventy two thousand people off the streets by converting

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Speaker 4: hotels and motels and other properties in the long term housing.

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Speaker 5: And by the way, we're.

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Speaker 6: Seeing results, we're seeing results results, early data.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, early data just compiled.

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Speaker 5: Yeah you may have seen this.

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Speaker 1: No I didn't.

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Speaker 5: We just released it.

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Speaker 1: We'll tell me.

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Speaker 4: Early data shows and this is the important number unsheltered homeless,

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Speaker 4: double digits nine percent last year in twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 4: It dropped in the state of California first time.

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Speaker 6: In over a decade and a half.

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Speaker 8: That we can like claim to that La down ten

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Speaker 3: So that's the data from the state that you know

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Speaker 3: progress is being made on homelessness.

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Speaker 1: Can I raise my head? Go ahead, mister, who's verified

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Speaker 1: this data?

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Speaker 2: Because Karen Bass released a lot of data recently and

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Speaker 2: then the Rank Corporation said, well, no, that's all wrong.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, these aren't verified independently, and plus they're very difficult

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Speaker 3: to measure, he did emphasize unsheltered, and like there's all

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Speaker 3: these different categories of what constitutes almless.

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Speaker 2: It's to confuse the issue. Well, let's put it this way.

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Speaker 2: Let's say his numbers are absolutely dead on right. That

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Speaker 2: means after seven years and thirty seven bi ninety percent

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Speaker 1: That's exactly right.

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Speaker 3: I mean, so even when you start to and you'll

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Speaker 3: heal Mayor Bass say the same thing in her reelection campaign,

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Speaker 3: she'll cite those numbers that homelessness according to the Homeless Count,

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Speaker 3: which by the way, is about start again next month.

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Speaker 1: They're looking for volunteers.

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Speaker 3: I expect you to pick up a form that the

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Speaker 3: numbers are showing that there are fewer people.

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Speaker 1: Living on the streets.

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Speaker 3: But then, like you say, there is some independent analysis

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Speaker 3: that suggests that's not true at all whatsoever. And even

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Speaker 3: if it were true, with the amount of money that's

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Speaker 3: been spent, is that really anything to brag about the numbers?

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Speaker 1: Accept them.

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Speaker 3: That's right.

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Speaker 1: Even if your.

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Speaker 2: Numbers are correct, and not one percent of me believes

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Speaker 2: that they're correct, you still have over ninety percent of

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Speaker 2: the problem.

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Speaker 3: And one question that I hope that we get answered

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Speaker 3: say die every day? Seven seven dimes every day? Right,

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Speaker 3: If that's over two thousand people a year that are

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Speaker 3: just dead, the number of deaths actually match the number

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Speaker 3: of people she said exactly, so got off the streets?

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Speaker 3: Is that problem as far as those percentages concerned? Is

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Speaker 3: it solving itself tragically? I mean, because that's what it

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Speaker 3: sounds like. But let's get back to the governor and

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Speaker 3: his State of the State speech, because you noted the spending,

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Speaker 3: the financial challenges that the state has which you'll have

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Speaker 3: to deal with, the homelessness. Crime is also a big

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Speaker 3: narrative across the country as it released to California.

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Speaker 1: Los Angeles is a mess.

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Speaker 3: San Francisco is a mess, and we know that there

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Speaker 3: are many challenges in our big cities.

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Speaker 1: This is what the governor said about crime.

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Speaker 8: We have seen double digit decreases in crime overall in

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Speaker 8: the state of California, property crime, property crime down, aggravated

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Speaker 8: assault down, car theft down, burglary down, robbery down, violent

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Speaker 8: crime down. California cities are seeing record low homicide rates.

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Speaker 8: Oakland the lowest homicide rates since nineteen sixty seven. La

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Speaker 8: the lowest since nineteen sixty six. My old town San Francesco.

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Speaker 8: They gonna have to uptate their talking points, aren't they.

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Speaker 4: My old town San Francisco the lowest hoomicide rates since

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Speaker 4: nineteen hundred and fifty four.

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Speaker 7: Nineteen hundred and fifty four.

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Speaker 1: Stay tuned. I'm waiting again.

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Speaker 5: We got more work to do.

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Speaker 8: But to those with that California derangement syndrome, I'll repeat,

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Speaker 8: it's time to update your talking points.

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Speaker 3: That was his message today, Yeah, was that there are

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Speaker 3: folks who are mischaracterizing California. We have more business investment,

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Speaker 3: We have all the billion dollar companies that are here.

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Speaker 3: We have cities that continuously rank on the happiest lists

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Speaker 3: that are put out by various publications. He called it

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Speaker 3: California Derangement Center.

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Speaker 1: It is derangement syndrome.

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Speaker 3: So that's the message he would have to take out

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Speaker 3: on the campaign trail if he So.

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Speaker 2: When I am, my wife and I are chased by

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Speaker 2: a guy down stands for the Sande Boulevard who's wielding

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Speaker 2: a pipe, that's part of our derangement syndrome, we am

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Speaker 2: imagined him. Well, we had like some psychotic Nick Reiner

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Speaker 2: type moment, and this deranged mental patient is chasing us.

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Speaker 3: That really wasn't happening. No, don't misunderstand, mister Cobelt. What's

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Speaker 3: happening there is Well, you may have been chased by

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Speaker 3: someone wielding a pipe. It's happening twelve percentage points a

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Speaker 3: few times than it was before.

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Speaker 1: That's right.

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Speaker 2: Only ninety percent of the pipe wielding homelesses are still

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Speaker 2: on the streets, that's right. One one guy died of

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Speaker 2: an overdose, so you can't count him anymore because last

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Speaker 2: year two did.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, I got it. I know what they do, massive,

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Speaker 3: massive cherry picking it.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know it's that they spent all year looking

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Speaker 2: a how to manipulate. I guess you didn't say anything

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Speaker 2: about the state having the highest unemployment in the country.

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Speaker 3: Right to the contrary, what he spoke about was, you know,

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Speaker 3: California's costs a living is very high.

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Speaker 1: We know that, right.

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Speaker 3: So a lot of the answers from politicians locally and

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Speaker 3: statewide is let's raise the minimum wage.

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Speaker 1: Which also has its own economic contact.

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Speaker 2: I heard him in wage he did he was talking

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Speaker 2: about how much better he are better, Like Alabama's minimum

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Speaker 2: wage is the same as the federal it's seven twenty five,

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Speaker 2: he says, did he mention the twenty thousand lost fast

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Speaker 2: food jobs that didn't come up to No, that didn't

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Speaker 2: come up okay because of the minimum wage track.

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Speaker 1: Very good, Michael, Michael, Thank you. Michael Monks right.

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Speaker 2: He knew a guy in radio named Michael Moss Moss

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Speaker 2: and it can never get him out of my head.

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Speaker 2: When we come back, we are going to play a

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Speaker 2: clip from NBC four and this is about the story

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Speaker 2: of the Palisades fire. And they talked with Roger Bailey,

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Speaker 2: the lead attorney for many of the plaintiffs in the

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Speaker 2: Palisades who lost their homes, and Roger brought along some

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Speaker 2: deposition video and you're going to hear that coming up.

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Speaker 2: You're going to hear the words of some of the

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Speaker 2: state employees from the Parks Department who interfered with the

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Speaker 2: La Fire Department when the fire department wanted to mop

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Speaker 2: up the original blaze.

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Speaker 9: AM six forty.

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Speaker 2: We were at the Palisades they let us burn rally yesterday.

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Speaker 2: We interviewed many Palisades residents and some well known people there.

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Speaker 2: John Cobelt Show. And right now, we just put up

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Speaker 2: a whole mess of interviews that we did with various

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Speaker 2: Palisades residents who attended the late the they let Us

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Speaker 2: Burn rally. Now we're going to play you this from

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Speaker 2: NBC four. They did a report on the state park

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Speaker 2: employees not shutting down the lock in firesight that's the

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Speaker 2: original fire on January first, even though the employee, one

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Speaker 2: close the park, which is the rule of the protocol.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna hear David Howard can'tfi sales manager who lost

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Speaker 2: his home in the fire, and the Palisades Residents lead

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Speaker 10: I joined this lawsuit because people that are responsible for

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Speaker 5: In the Pacific Palisades.

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Speaker 11: David Howard and his family lost their home of more

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Speaker 5: This is the upper part is a separate street.

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Speaker 7: They're now in the process of rebuilding.

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Speaker 11: What were the failings in your mind with the Lachman

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Speaker 10: Christ I think I would start by saying, well went right,

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Speaker 11: Recent testimony by California State Parks employees only add to

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Speaker 6: Based on your observations when you hiked up and took

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Speaker 5: I did not.

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Speaker 7: Believe it was necessary to close the park.

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Speaker 1: Even though you saw evidents of smoldering.

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Speaker 7: Correct, correct?

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Speaker 12: No call somebody when you see the smoke coming out

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Speaker 5: Get somebody up there.

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Speaker 11: Roger Bailey and his firm represent the Howards and more

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Speaker 7: Among the defendants the State Parks Department.

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Speaker 12: Because it's the state park's land, they have to be

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Speaker 5: Now, if they see something, they.

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Speaker 12: Could call cal fire or they could call LAFD back,

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Speaker 11: A spokesperson for the State Parks Department says, in part,

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Speaker 7: Also at issue the states so.

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Speaker 11: Called avoidance maps they share with firefighters, the red circles

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Speaker 11: The state now says the Lockman fire was not in

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Speaker 7: Were a concern.

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Speaker 11: There is an endangered plant population and a cultural site

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Speaker 11: We will hold off for now until I hear heavy

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Speaker 13: I eventually managed to connect with Chief Mollen, and yeah,

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Speaker 14: Cut vegetation to obscure the beginning of where that handline

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Speaker 6: And did you take the firefighters to that location and

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Speaker 5: Them, Yes, still smoke coming out of the ground.

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Speaker 12: And he goes and finds firefighters in a battalion chief

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Speaker 12: To me, that's influencing or interfering with what the firefighters did.

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Speaker 11: The newest piece of evidence, Bailey says, is this drone

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Speaker 15: The location that this drone video captures on January one

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Speaker 15: and that's been confirmed by what we call photogrammetry analysis.

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Speaker 11: Look carefully and you can see wisps of smoke here

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Speaker 11: state employees should have noticed and reported, but the state

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Speaker 11: reiterates California State Parks is not a firefighting agency and

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Speaker 12: The case against the state has nothing to do with firefighting.

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Speaker 5: That's not the focus.

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Speaker 12: It has to do with the state's duties to the

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Speaker 5: We lost twelve lives here.

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Speaker 10: My goal is to make sure that we held these

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Speaker 10: because the truth of the matter is it's going to happen.

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Speaker 5: The question is how bad will it be.

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Speaker 11: Next week La City firefighters are expected to give their testimony.

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Speaker 11: This will be the first time we hear from them

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Speaker 2: That's NBC four's Carolyn Johnson and excellent report. We should

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Speaker 2: We're going to take two snippets, two audio snippets from

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Speaker 2: Every day we're on from one until four o'clock and

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Speaker 2: you miss today. Tonight, I'm going to be on Alex

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Speaker 2: and it's called The Story Is, and we're going to

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Speaker 2: So that'll be in the ten o'clock hour Alex Michaelson,

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Speaker 2: The Story Is on CNN. You could watch me right

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Speaker 2: there should have been inspections done to see if there

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Speaker 1: But listen to what this woman did.

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Speaker 6: Based on your observations when you hiked up and took

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Speaker 5: I did not.

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Speaker 7: Believe it was necessary to close the.

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Speaker 6: Did you communicate your observations of smoldering to anyone else's

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Speaker 2: All right, let's talk about this woman here. We pay her,

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Speaker 1: We just had a fire already.

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Speaker 2: The National Weather Service is putting out warnings that we're

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Speaker 2: She sees smoldering, and what she should have done if

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Speaker 2: Shall means it's a must.

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Speaker 1: You have to.

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Speaker 2: No discretion there. You shall close the park. She does

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Speaker 1: You're gonna call the fire department.

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Speaker 2: It's on state land here, So at the very least,

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Speaker 2: CalFire La Fire, You tell your bosses, hey, they're smoldering.

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Speaker 2: Because the winds, and she should know this. If you're

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Speaker 1: So you see smoldering, like if you saw smoldering in.

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Speaker 2: Your backyard, wand if you were pushing your kidney stroller

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Speaker 2: She not only doesn't close the park, she doesn't call CalFire,

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Speaker 2: she doesn't call the LA Fire Department, she doesn't call

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Speaker 3: Now again, the park is adjacent to the Palisades where thousand,

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Speaker 3: that fire could kick up, and the winds are supposed

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Speaker 3: and that could wipe out the Palisades. Nothing, no little

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Speaker 3: huh that doesn't look good even if she didn't know

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Speaker 2: That's what she got the manual for. Let's get the

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Speaker 1: What is he? The state biologist? Go ahead?

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Speaker 13: I eventually managed to connect with Chief Mollen and yeah,

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Speaker 14: Cut vegetation to obscure the beginning of where that handline

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Speaker 2: So here's another state employee. Again, we pay him, he

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Speaker 3: He sees that the fire department had cut a fire line,

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Speaker 3: so now you had bare ground instead of the vegetation

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Speaker 3: the ground covering.

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Speaker 1: It.

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Speaker 3: Sees that and he goes, well, that's no good because

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Speaker 3: people might get confused. Well what would be the confusion, Well,

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Speaker 3: they would think it's hiking path and then they'd start

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Speaker 3: walking on the hiking path. So he has them collect

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Speaker 3: the vegetation they tore out and then patch it back

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Speaker 3: on this path, so now there's no fire break. He

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Speaker 3: actually had the fire break removed while the other lady

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Speaker 3: sees the smoldering, which became the January seventh fire. She

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Speaker 3: doesn't report the smoldering. He gets rid of a fire break.

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Speaker 3: What the hell could you have two more? Are there

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Speaker 3: two more stupid.

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Speaker 2: Actions than that? It's impossible. Those two actions are the

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Speaker 2: stupidest actions you could come up with in this particular situation.

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Speaker 2: Not reporting the smoldering with the winds bloating, blowing, and

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Speaker 2: also putting it back like it was a hairpiece or something.

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Speaker 2: You had some bald ground there. You're putting the grass back.

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Speaker 2: People will get confused and they'll start walking down the path. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and then what then what will happen?

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, then they might they might start stomping around on

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Speaker 3: the milk with the milkvetch plant.

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Speaker 2: We can't have people getting confused and then stomping on

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Speaker 2: the milkvetch.

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Speaker 3: But he's a state biologist. He has a college degree.

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Speaker 2: Probably the other lady has a college degree, and they're

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Speaker 2: getting salaries from us. And there's one moment in their

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Speaker 2: lives where they mattered. One moment. This is the first

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Speaker 2: time she mattered to the public, and that was a

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Speaker 2: she's got a phone in her hand or in her pocket,

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Speaker 2: pull out the phone, call somebody.

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Speaker 1: That's all you had to do. This guy.

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Speaker 2: Sees a firebreak and he decides, well, they don't really

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Speaker 2: need a fire break. I mean, now people might walk

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Speaker 2: on that path and get confused, and then they're.

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Speaker 1: Gonna be stepping on the milk.

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Speaker 3: Mitch Blatt, Oh my god, little children would have made

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Speaker 3: better decisions. My cat and dog, my two lizards would

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Speaker 3: have made better decisions than this. And then look what happened.

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Speaker 3: And it's these little tiny things. I'm getting a bad

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Speaker 3: headache here.

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Speaker 9: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI six.

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Speaker 3: I'm on the State of Gold podcast. State of Gold podcast.

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Speaker 2: It's hosted by tech entrepreneur John Slavit, who's also running

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Speaker 2: for governor.

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Speaker 1: So we discussed, oh why is the.

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Speaker 3: Gasoline in California two dollars more than everywhere else?

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Speaker 1: So you go to Stateofgold dot com.

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Speaker 3: Right on YouTube, go to that same title State of

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Speaker 3: Gold and I'm on that podcast. We just played and

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Speaker 3: analyzed an NBC report on the Lockmann fire and two employees,

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Speaker 3: one of them saw smoldering and didn't tell anybody. Didn't

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Speaker 3: call cal Fire, didn't call LA Fire, didn't call our

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Speaker 3: bosses another one who became obsessed with some of the

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Speaker 3: vegetation torn out by the firefighters to create a fire break,

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Speaker 3: and he wanted the vegetation put back in place, otherwise

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Speaker 3: people would get confused. You should see that NBC report

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Speaker 3: because you can see these two employees and you can

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Speaker 3: watch their faces. I mean, you talk about utterly clueless, utterly.

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Speaker 3: I just kept playing it over and over in front

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Speaker 3: of me. It's like, what is going on here? How

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Speaker 3: could anybody think this way? Why would that be their reaction?

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Speaker 5: All right?

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Speaker 2: I was talking earlier with Michael Monks about Newsom. He

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Speaker 2: did his State of the State address, you know, which

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Speaker 2: is just nonsense. And his stick this year is California

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Speaker 2: Derangement syndrome. He takes every attack from Trump and he

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Speaker 2: tries to reverse it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's such a child.

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Speaker 2: So now he came up with California Derangement syndrome and

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Speaker 2: he did this raw ro speech and how great California

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Speaker 2: is and totally ignored everything that's gone haywire. And Will

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Speaker 2: O'Neill is the chairman of the Republican Party of Orange County,

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Speaker 2: and he released this statement and I'm just going to

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Speaker 2: read from it. Just because I'm always looking for lists,

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Speaker 2: an easy list to encapsulate all of Newsom's failures. And

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Speaker 2: he opens by saying, as we enter the twenty third

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Speaker 2: year of Gavin Newsom's ten year plan to end homelessness

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Speaker 2: in San Francisco, and that is true. This is the

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Speaker 2: twenty third year of Newsom's end homelessness plan. His first

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Speaker 2: year as mayor of San Francisco, which I believe was

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Speaker 2: two thousand and four, he announced that they were going

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Speaker 2: to end it once and for all, and then he

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Speaker 2: got bumped up eventually to be governor and he's still

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Speaker 2: ending it. So Will O'Neil calls him King of Homelessness.

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Speaker 2: Under Newsom's watch, he saw homelessness grow, and California now

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Speaker 2: accounts for fifty percent of all the unsheltered homeless in

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Speaker 2: the nation. Newsom was trying to sell that it's actually down,

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Speaker 2: and that Newsom threw twenty four billion dollars at the

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Speaker 2: issue just the last five years, and the state auditor

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Speaker 2: doesn't well, state auditor couldn't determine why it failed. They

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Speaker 2: don't know where the money went, They don't know if

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Speaker 2: the money did any good. Obviously it didn't. The matter homeless.

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Speaker 2: We have in this date one hundred and eighty seven thousand,

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Speaker 2: one hundred and eighty seven thousand and half of all

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Speaker 2: the unsheltered homeless. And he actually in his speech was

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Speaker 2: beating his chest to tell everybody how well he's doing.

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Speaker 5: There.

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Speaker 2: Will O'Neil goes through the thirty two billion of known

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Speaker 2: fraud in the unemployment program, and that's not counting again

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Speaker 2: the twenty four billion that's missing in the homeless programs

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Speaker 2: and the seventeen billion in the high speed rail program.

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Speaker 2: Although I should mention this again because apparently it upsets

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Speaker 2: some people in Sacramento yesterday, and I'll be upfront about it.

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Speaker 2: This is an unconfirmed rumor. But wasn't it mysterious over

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Speaker 2: the Christmas break that Newsom and Rob Bonta withdrew a

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Speaker 2: lawsuit against Trump. They're always bragging about how they've they

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Speaker 2: filed fifty lawsuits, right, and they're going to win them

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Speaker 2: all and even when they lose them, are gonna appeal

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Speaker 2: this one they withdrew. Why is that because you remember

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Speaker 2: Trump stopped payment of billions of dollars in federal money

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Speaker 2: for high speed rail.

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Speaker 3: Well story I hear. I don't know if it's true

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Speaker 3: just from insiders gossip, Okay.

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Speaker 2: Rumors that recent he dropped out of the lawsuit. Is

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Speaker 2: he's going to time a bombshell during his presidential campaign

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Speaker 2: or during the midterm election cycle to say, hey, I'm

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Speaker 2: the hero here. I'm pulling out of high speed rail.

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Speaker 2: I'm ending this And he may be wondering, well, how's

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Speaker 2: he going to do that? I mean, the unions depend

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Speaker 2: on all this money, and the contractors and the lawyers

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Speaker 2: and the engineers, like all the corrupt parasites in the system.

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Speaker 2: Is it's like, hey, you guys got enough money. We

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Speaker 2: ran this scam for seventeen years. We're in our eighteenth year.

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Speaker 2: Now the scam it's gone as far as it can.

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Speaker 2: I got to run for president and I don't need

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Speaker 2: this being brought up every five minutes during all the debates.

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Speaker 2: I don't need this in twenty seven thousand television commercials.

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Speaker 2: So I'm going to pull out of high speed rail

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Speaker 2: and declare victory and take away all that ammunition, as

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Speaker 2: if there's nothing else. So I mentioned this a couple

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Speaker 2: of days ago, and apparently people in Sacramento very upset,

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Speaker 2: which makes me think that it's true. But I don't

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Speaker 2: know if it's true. It's just rumored. People tell me things.

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Speaker 2: You knew what people tell me? Oh what else? Did

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Speaker 2: what else? Did the Orange County Republican Chairman Will O'Neal

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Speaker 2: write here? Oh yeah, yeah, energy, Yeah, we'd pay more

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Speaker 2: for gasoline than any other state. We pay more for

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Speaker 2: electricity than any other state except one. In fact, electricity

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Speaker 2: has jumped forty seven percent in just in the first

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Speaker 2: four years on the job. It went up forty seven percent.

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Speaker 2: We got an eighteen billion dollar deficit. Did he discuss

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Speaker 2: any of this in his State of the State speech?

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Speaker 2: I mean, I really don't have the time to listen

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Speaker 2: to that. Michael Monks did, and bless him for that,

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Speaker 2: but I just you know, it's a busy day today

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Speaker 2: and he's got other things. So you get the idea.

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Speaker 2: All right, I gotta go. Conway's coming up next. Podcast

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Speaker 2: is going to be released in a few minutes. And

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Speaker 2: we had so much stuff and I'm out of time.

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Speaker 2: I can't even promote it anymore. I'll be on CNN

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Speaker 2: Alex Michaelson tonight in the ten o'clock hour. Michael Krazer

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Speaker 2: is the News Live in the KFI twenty four hour news.

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