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Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversations. It's the show that she

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Speaker 1: has the secrets of success experience firsthand by Marketing and

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Speaker 1: Brandon expert Rashan McDonald. I will know he's given me

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Speaker 1: it's what he likes to share. Now it's time to

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Speaker 1: hear from my man, Rashan McDonald. Money Making Conversations. Here

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Speaker 1: we go. Welcome to Money Making Conversation master Class. I'm

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Speaker 1: your host, Rashan McDonald. Welcome to the show. I think

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Speaker 1: today is there's no perfect time to start following your dreams.

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Speaker 1: It's time to stop reading other people's success stories and

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Speaker 1: start living your own. People always talk about their purpose

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Speaker 1: or gift. If you have a gift, lead with your

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Speaker 1: gift and don't let your friends, family, or co workers

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Speaker 1: stop you from planning or living your dreams. We were

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Speaker 1: discussing all these things, like we do every week, how

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Speaker 1: to overcome the odds to be successful. My guest is

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Speaker 1: doctor Robert, He's the CEO. Of Conquer Worldwide. Conquer Worldwide

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Speaker 1: is a consulting firm that offers business advisory services and

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Speaker 1: financial consulting to individuals and corporations. Doctor Watkins has invested

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Speaker 1: in over two hundred new business owners, assisted thousands of

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Speaker 1: families to change the trajectory or their financial legacies, and

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Speaker 1: has facilitated more than ten million in capital for startups.

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Speaker 1: Please work for the Money Making Conversations Masterclass, Doctor Robert Watkins.

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Speaker 1: How are you doing, sir? I'm wonderful, Thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for having me. Now, where are you based at?

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Speaker 1: Based in Orlando by way of Atlanta. Born in Detroit,

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Speaker 1: but I have an office in Atlanta, but I'm living

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Speaker 1: and living my best life right now in Orlando, Florida.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you one thing very familiar with Orlando, Florida.

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Speaker 1: I'd like to call that Mosquito contract. Okay, because you

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Speaker 1: go down there, you drive every home seems to have

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Speaker 1: different there. So, you know, Disney being down there, you

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Speaker 1: to stay away from them. Schigles absolutely. Let's talk about you.

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Speaker 1: Say that I ten year intro has invested it over

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Speaker 1: change the financial trajectory of their legacies. Talk about your background. Yeah, well,

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Speaker 1: I used to teach business that university actually here in Atlanta.

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Speaker 1: And when people graduated from my NBA program in business

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Speaker 1: that it was out of business school, they were called

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Speaker 1: back two years later say doctor Wat, because I need money.

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Speaker 1: And then I would go into churches and I would

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Speaker 1: help students and to help people who have dreams and visions,

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Speaker 1: because at the end of the day, a dream without

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Speaker 1: resources is a nightmare. And when people don't have the capital,

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Speaker 1: they live in what I call holy frustration. And so

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Speaker 1: we started a financial company about seventeen years ago, and

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Speaker 1: we do about sixteen seventeen million dollars a year in

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Speaker 1: I say, you don't have to wait to graduate to

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Speaker 1: how does one get in touch with you? When you

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Speaker 1: And it's important to talk about what we always talk about. Now.

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Speaker 1: our dreams always needs financial assistance. Now, when I talk

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Speaker 1: far as discipline? Did it provide discipline? Did you give

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Speaker 1: those people to be on the show. I added out

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Speaker 1: because what I won't do on this show is create

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Speaker 1: want to say the names of what I'm invested in. Uh,

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Speaker 1: just just you can google me and if you call

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Speaker 1: But that office tell us how we can get into

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Speaker 1: all over social media. Robert Jay Watkins. Cool Um. It

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Speaker 1: was I was reading through some things with you and

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Speaker 1: it was like, it's a title caught my eye, how

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Speaker 1: to build a team with no money? You know the

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Speaker 1: reason I brought up because all we've been talking about

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Speaker 1: is money, and then I saw that title, said, how

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Speaker 1: to build a team with no money? Now I want

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Speaker 1: to I'm gonna just stop right there and allow you

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Speaker 1: to start educate me on that philosophy. Well, you know,

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Speaker 1: the new currency is relationships. That's why I believe God's

447
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Speaker 1: pushed us together. That's the new currency. Right, the economy

448
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Speaker 1: is gonna get worse, and so you're you're you're only

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Speaker 1: gonna go as far as the people around you financially speaking.

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Speaker 1: And so how do you build a new team? How

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Speaker 1: do you build a team with no money? First of all,

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Speaker 1: you gotta have a compelling vision. You gotta have something

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Speaker 1: that people want to be a part of. Right, That's

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Speaker 1: what the dot com Eric taught us is that you

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Speaker 1: create something nobody heard of, uber eats or even zoom,

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Speaker 1: you know, until the pandemic hit. And when this next

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Speaker 1: We're going to see new inventions. It's gonna be a

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Speaker 1: right now, they're going to come to the table. So

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Speaker 1: number one to have a compelling vision. Then number two,

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Speaker 1: what is your value pop position? Right? How are you

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Speaker 1: adding value to people, to people's lives. You're making them

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Speaker 1: healthier're making them wealthier're making them skinnier. What do you

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Speaker 1: What are you doing? That has to be key and

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Speaker 1: people want to be a part of that. Um you know.

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Speaker 1: I love the what the Bible says about that that

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Speaker 1: where there is no vision, the people perish, and so

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Speaker 1: you have to be able to cash vision. So when

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Speaker 1: I go online, I'm casting vision because people need vision.

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Speaker 1: And then number three, have a funnel, a tool, a

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Speaker 1: place where people can come and connect to and we

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Speaker 1: just do those three things, you'll be on your way

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Speaker 1: to having a really good smart team. And then college

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Speaker 1: students are everywhere, they all need experience, so there's nothing

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Speaker 1: wrong with even if you're a startup. Just did share

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Speaker 1: your knowledge with a college student and let them be

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Speaker 1: an intern. It shooting is if we wrap up, I'm

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Speaker 1: speaking to doctor Robert Watkins, CEO and founder Conquer Worldwide.

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Speaker 1: If you want to follow them up the information that

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Speaker 1: also have a conference June ninth, June ninth and tenth

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Speaker 1: They go to Kingsinc. Dot com dot com. Okay, Um,

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Speaker 1: fear stopped a lot of people, men and women of

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Speaker 1: what of those things? Fear? Doubt, regret? How do you

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Speaker 1: overcome and don't allow that to be? Um? Limit your dreams.

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Speaker 1: But first of all, bring awareness that you are those

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Speaker 1: things I know as men, weren's not we were not

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Speaker 1: taught to say, man, I'm afraid. We were not taught

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Speaker 1: to say, you know those I'm scared. But when you

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Speaker 1: bring awareness to that, man, this is I mean the

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Speaker 1: first you know building and a bought on an office building.

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Speaker 1: It's like they're not gonna let me do this. I

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Speaker 1: minute I bought a house before, this is easy, right, Well,

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Speaker 1: get to twenty percent down payment? We am I gonna

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Speaker 1: get the million dollars? Well? How many people do I know?

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Speaker 1: I think I know about twenty five people. Can I

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Speaker 1: get half of those people to believe in this this vision?

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Speaker 1: And before you know it, I had the money and

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Speaker 1: But it took five years of fear. So I could

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Speaker 1: And when a person comes to that realization, then the

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Speaker 1: time to overcome this. Right, And the field failure is

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Speaker 1: to put yourself out there and just know that if

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Speaker 1: I fail, I fail. But I never really fail. I

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Speaker 1: As we close here, I'm gonna ask this because everybody

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Speaker 1: stop making new debt. You know, that's that's number one.

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Speaker 1: Number two, here's whatever. When you stop making new debt,

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Speaker 1: what's that? It's that Netflix? Is that what? Buying a card?

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Speaker 1: You shouldn't have Stop with the credit cards, you know how,

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Speaker 1: you know, here's get over the fear and come up

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Speaker 1: do that, if you say I'm gonna have I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: go on a credit card fast. I'm not gonna use

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Speaker 1: any plastic, including my debit card. You mentioned about the

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Speaker 1: not using any plastic. I'm not using plastic cups. That's how.

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Speaker 1: That's how cool and committed I am. But that's that's

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Speaker 1: number one, um getting out of debt. Number two. If

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Speaker 1: you have a credit card amount, say it's a thousand dollars,

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Speaker 1: and you have a thousand dollars in the savings account,

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Speaker 1: the credit card. Now, a lot of people don't like

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Speaker 1: to do that. Because we like to see our money online.

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Speaker 1: We like to look at it and stare at it.

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Speaker 1: And I'm the same way. I like to go online

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Speaker 1: and see you. Okay, I'm good, right, But the credit

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Speaker 1: card is at fifteen seventeen percent interest rate. I'm making

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Speaker 1: point five zero five percent interest on my thousand dollars

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Speaker 1: in the same as a count. So take that out

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Speaker 1: and pay off the credit card. A lot of us

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Speaker 1: don't like to do that, but that would be on

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Speaker 1: your way to becoming debt free. Well you know that

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Speaker 1: we don't because we don't know. Let me just tell

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Speaker 1: you that now we don't know. And it's really interesting.

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Speaker 1: I'm one of those common sense guys, and it's always

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Speaker 1: good to hear an expert tell you you're doing something,

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Speaker 1: because I've been doing that probably last year, spending more

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Speaker 1: cash than credit card. And you know, because I love

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Speaker 1: have cash, you know, love having have pocket, right, But

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Speaker 1: then I'm spending a credit card. But keep patting my pocket.

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Speaker 1: We got made some money, but but never realized we shall,

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Speaker 1: won't You go ahead when you go to Chick fil like,

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Speaker 1: go ahead and pay cash. It's a big trick move

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Speaker 1: going on right there, because a lot of people don't

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Speaker 1: want to take cash no more. Well, you know what's

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Speaker 1: happening in China and Russia. So they just came together.

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Speaker 1: I won't go too deep into woods there, but they

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Speaker 1: just partnered. And the first thing they did was devalue

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Speaker 1: the dollar. Essentially, they trashed the dollar. They devalued it,

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Speaker 1: and that was an economic move. That was a war

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Speaker 1: on America. So in the country, dollars are still king.

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Speaker 1: Outside of the country, it's not gonna be worth anything.

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Speaker 1: So we gotta be a little bit smarter because they're

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Speaker 1: already we're talking about digital economics and cryptocurrency. They're twenty

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Speaker 1: years ahead of it. So when you so, how should

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Speaker 1: I feel If I'm a guy trying to lure my debt,

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Speaker 1: trying to get rid of my credit card debt, and

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Speaker 1: I'm going to these restaurants in these places they go,

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Speaker 1: we don't take cash. Should I be mad at that?

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Speaker 1: Should I stop supporting these type of businesses, or just

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Speaker 1: understand that's the world we're living in now, Well, that's

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Speaker 1: the world that's becoming. And when it comes to back

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Speaker 1: to credit for a second, is if I don't have

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Speaker 1: the money in my account, I'm not pulling out my

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Speaker 1: credit card, right, Okay, I took my daughter to Ruth

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Speaker 1: Chris Chris Steakhouse the other day, and so the bill was,

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Speaker 1: you know, a couple hundred dollars. So I pulled out

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Speaker 1: my credit card because I have two hundred dollars an account. Right,

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Speaker 1: But if I didn't have the two hundred dollars an account,

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Speaker 1: I need to take credit McDonald's. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: So I have to be real about my situation. But

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Speaker 1: there's coming a time in America. You can imagine this

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Speaker 1: where the dollar will not be received. Everything is going

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Speaker 1: to one digital currency. And the move that China and

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Speaker 1: Russia made last Thursday was the beginning of that. Wow,

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Speaker 1: we're speaking to you as that closed man. Fantastic. Give

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Speaker 1: information about the event that's going on in Orlando. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Conquer Worldwide Coin, queer worldwide dot com. You see all

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Speaker 1: was in law school in DC and came up with

639
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 1: the idea to really rethink or reimagine the private city

640
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 1: club experience. Sent the idea to my college roommate and

641
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 1: we worked for about three years before the first gathering

642
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 1: spot opened in March of twenty sixteen. So it's been

643
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 1: seven great years now. Nah, that sounded really simple, Ryan, Okay,

644
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 1: you know, ye y'all had a great idea and then

645
00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 1: all of a sudden it happened because we knew it

646
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 1: didn't happened because people pushed back on great ideas, especially

647
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 1: when it's not normal, especially when it's not part of

648
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 1: a community that that experience happens. What were the pushbacks

649
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 1: and what were the obstacles and getting it opened? So

650
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 1: I actually counted the obstacles in the early days, so

651
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 1: I thought it was important to know just how many

652
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 1: of them we were collecting. Our first round of funding

653
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 1: required three million dollars of capital to be raised, and

654
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 1: it was ninety seven people that told us no in

655
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 1: a row before we got to our first yes. At

656
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 1: the time was twenty two twenty three years old, and

657
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 1: we just kept going. I mean, the thing that we

658
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 1: told ourselves during that time period was that we really

659
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 1: were seeing something that the market couldn't see, right, and

660
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 1: that honestly there was a good thing in the nose

661
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 1: that we were getting from folks because they were actually

662
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 1: indications that we were probably heading actually in the right

663
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,719
Speaker 1: direction because they couldn't see what we were trying to accomplish.

664
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 1: But ninety seven people before the first yes, and then

665
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 1: we after that first yes, we're able to move a

666
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 1: little bit faster and start the construction process of the

667
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:11,439
Speaker 1: first TGS. Now the first TGS Atlanta Georgia. Okay, because

668
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:14,239
Speaker 1: you were saying, you said DC earlier in your conversation,

669
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 1: why Atlanta, Georgia was the gathering spot to open it

670
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 1: in Atlanta, Georgia was the perfect location. I think Atlanta

671
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:22,760
Speaker 1: is one of the more important cities in the country

672
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 1: right now. If you look at the colleges and universities,

673
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 1: if you look at the small business community, if you

674
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 1: look at the large companies that call Atlanta home, and

675
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 1: then if you look at the creative community. I really

676
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:35,840
Speaker 1: think that what we export more than anything else in

677
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 1: the city is our culture. So when I thought about

678
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 1: a place that I would want to be where there

679
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 1: would be different people connecting with one another. I wanted

680
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 1: to be in a city where black folks were in

681
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:50,759
Speaker 1: leadership and leading the city. But also we're doing it

682
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,880
Speaker 1: from a variety of different industries. And so I decided

683
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:57,720
Speaker 1: to come back home. I'm from here, but this city's

684
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 1: special Atlanta. Atlanta is a as an incredibly special place,

685
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 1: and I wanted to be a part of the growth

686
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 1: of what I thought the city was going to experience.

687
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:08,720
Speaker 1: And I have to agree. I know that Steve Harvey

688
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 1: and I when we left New York and we was

689
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 1: trying to figure out a place where we wanted to

690
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,840
Speaker 1: set up our business, our headquarters, And in two thousand

691
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 1: and seven we moved to Atlanta because we felt that

692
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:21,719
Speaker 1: it was just the right environment, the right type of

693
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:25,880
Speaker 1: African Americans to do business with. It was uploidly mobile

694
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 1: as far as coast of living, we felt that was

695
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 1: in line right there. And also, but in since two

696
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 1: thousands and something, you've seen how the especially with Tyler

697
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:37,360
Speaker 1: Perry moving his theater down here and the other the

698
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 1: tremendous growth in the television and film and streaming industry,

699
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 1: and here in twenty sixteen you said, you know you

700
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 1: have to be you have to kind of be a

701
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 1: visionary when you start setting up these ideas. Was that

702
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 1: Did you see that, Bryan or you just it just

703
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 1: happened and you're excited about being a part of being

704
00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 1: along for the ride. I mean, I saw, but more importantly,

705
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:02,840
Speaker 1: I felt it. Right when I came back home, I

706
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,320
Speaker 1: could I could feel the energy that was in the city.

707
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 1: And this is a big city to a certain extent,

708
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 1: that still feels like a small town, right. You can

709
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 1: build relationships here. So I would come back to Atlanta

710
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:16,880
Speaker 1: and we would get more done in a couple of

711
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 1: days in the city, and it felt like we were

712
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 1: getting done anywhere else we were trying to raise money.

713
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:25,879
Speaker 1: So I felt that energy. I felt felt the fact

714
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 1: that people were rooting for you here, that they're willing

715
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 1: to help you, and that was a part of the culture.

716
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 1: So it made all the sense in the world. And

717
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, again, I'm in my early twenties at

718
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:42,399
Speaker 1: this part of the journey, so I didn't have much

719
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 1: to be afraid of, right. It was. It was exciting

720
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 1: more than anything else, just to be able to have

721
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 1: the chance to have a chance well the days ry.

722
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:52,959
Speaker 1: I'm talking to Ride Wilson, the co founder, the CEO

723
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,720
Speaker 1: of the Gathering Spot of private membership network that serves

724
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:59,320
Speaker 1: as a hub and collaboration for business connections for African Americans.

725
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:03,800
Speaker 1: And are these now if it takes a lot of confidence,

726
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 1: I won't say the word arrogance to say you a

727
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:08,840
Speaker 1: young guy and say I need three million dollars and

728
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 1: being go in the room convincing people I need this

729
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 1: amount of money. Now, what's your background to give you

730
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:19,319
Speaker 1: that level of confidence? And what type of presentation did

731
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 1: you have to put together to convince people that this

732
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 1: would work? So I had to benefit. My parents were entrepreneurs,

733
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:27,880
Speaker 1: and so I grew up not wanting to start a

734
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 1: business at all because I saw that life. I saw

735
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 1: what my parents went through to to build and scale

736
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 1: of the companies that they had started. The best advice

737
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 1: that I could give folks that are that are staring

738
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 1: at an idea that they have is just to know

739
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:45,360
Speaker 1: that it isn't random, right, There's something that's really leading

740
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 1: you to the point of wanting to do whatever it

741
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:50,800
Speaker 1: is that you want to do. And it's important to

742
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 1: be a good steward of what I saw is my assignment,

743
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 1: my my my mission is to connect people. I'm a

744
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 1: community builder, and look, I don't I don't get a

745
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 1: chance to do life over from what I understand, and

746
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 1: so I didn't want to have any regrets about not trying.

747
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 1: And at that point, again, I'm in my twenties, So

748
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:10,239
Speaker 1: if it didn't work out, my mind was like, well,

749
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 1: I'll go back and I'll have plenty of time to

750
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 1: figure out a plan B. But I couldn't live with

751
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 1: the what if. And so our plan was to just

752
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 1: to give it a shot. And thankfully, thanks to a

753
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,400
Speaker 1: lot of really really good people that were helpful to us,

754
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:27,720
Speaker 1: we were able to get off the ground and running.

755
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:32,239
Speaker 1: Now it's it's so enlightening. I'm born and raised in Houston, Texas, Okay,

756
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 1: lived in Chicago for five years, in New York for

757
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:37,320
Speaker 1: four years, so LA for fifteen years. And so I

758
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 1: understand the culture of this country, especially from the black perspective,

759
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 1: because I've lived it, I've experienced it. And so you've

760
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 1: expanded this this environment of the gathering spot. Now, what

761
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 1: are the other two locations or other locations that you

762
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 1: have all the locations that you were considering and why

763
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:58,800
Speaker 1: so we we built a second TGS in Washington, d C.

764
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 1: I met my I went to school in DC for

765
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 1: Underground and for law school. Built the third one in

766
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 1: Los Angeles, and then what we have something called connected Cities,

767
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 1: where if you know anything about the gathering Spot, we

768
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 1: program a lot. We do a lot of events. And

769
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 1: so our mission during the pandemic, when we couldn't gather

770
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 1: in the way that we traditionally, what we're doing was

771
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,959
Speaker 1: to start to build things that you could do maybe

772
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:26,320
Speaker 1: that weren't necessarily connected to the physical locations. So in

773
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 1: five other cities New York, Chicago, Detroit, Houston, and Charlotte,

774
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 1: we have what we call connected cities. And so there

775
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 1: are thousands of members that are a part of those

776
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 1: clubs in the cities that I reference, that don't have

777
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:40,720
Speaker 1: access to a physical space yet, but do have access

778
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 1: to our programming into the community. The goal is to

779
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 1: build physical locations and all of those markets plus something. Okay,

780
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 1: let me do you want to slow it down a

781
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 1: little bit? Ryan, You know, because I know what the

782
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 1: gathering spot is. When I read this out, I say,

783
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 1: a private membership network. It serves as a hub for

784
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:01,880
Speaker 1: collaboration and business connect actions for African Americans the minority.

785
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 1: What does that mean and how does that membership register?

786
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 1: So we have the best way to understand TGS is

787
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 1: that we build physical spaces where everyone's welcome. But we

788
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:19,400
Speaker 1: are focused on making sure that black folks in particular

789
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 1: feel celebrated at everything at every turn of what we do.

790
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 1: Our clubs have events space, so we host a lot

791
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 1: of different events throughout the year. We have a restaurant

792
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:33,320
Speaker 1: in bar space, and then we have workspace. The reason

793
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 1: why people join, though, is because of the network, because

794
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 1: of the community. So my job each and every day

795
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:41,240
Speaker 1: is to try to figure out how to introduce people

796
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 1: that ordinarily would not have met one another. The youngest

797
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 1: member is twenty one, the oldest member is now ninety one,

798
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 1: and so my job is to no matter what you do,

799
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 1: and if you go to a gathering spot, you'll see

800
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 1: people wearing T shirts sitting next to people who are

801
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 1: wearing suits, right, and my job is to try to

802
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 1: figure out where is the common ground and where can

803
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 1: we build a relationship, hopefully for business purposes or honestly

804
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 1: for people just to meet others that they need to

805
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,880
Speaker 1: know socially. You know, it's really interesting. I'm talking to

806
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:15,479
Speaker 1: Ryan Wilson, and you know, I've been together to start

807
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 1: four events. I've been togethering spots for meetings. It's a

808
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 1: certain pride that you give young entrepreneurs. That's that's that's

809
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 1: my biggest takeaway Ryan, is that when I meet young entrepreneurs,

810
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 1: they said, can you meet me at the gathering spot?

811
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:32,360
Speaker 1: You know, and and I meet It is at a table,

812
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 1: you know, and the probably in the in the in

813
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 1: the dining area. And you know, when you when you

814
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:41,439
Speaker 1: walk into the gathering spot, ladies and gentlemen, it's you met.

815
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 1: It's an amazing experience because it's beautiful first of all,

816
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 1: and you walk in and every step of the way

817
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:54,240
Speaker 1: you felt like you walk you walked into a world

818
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 1: of professionalism. Every step of the way. Soon as you

819
00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:02,439
Speaker 1: walk into the dining area, you know, everybody's everybody feel

820
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 1: like they're motivated to do something unique for themselves and special.

821
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:10,280
Speaker 1: Like I guess you have to experience that to understand

822
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. Because when we walk this is

823
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:15,880
Speaker 1: not like walking into spaces. This is not like walking

824
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:19,840
Speaker 1: into we works where they do run out the offices

825
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 1: and they do run out the desk and all that.

826
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,840
Speaker 1: This is the experience where you have people tied with

827
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 1: the worried pride. Am I right? Then when I say that, Ryan, No,

828
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. I mean that's our goal, right If

829
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 1: I if I to use another reference point, I mean

830
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 1: different age group here. But if you think about the

831
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 1: experience that a lot of folks have when they walked

832
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 1: into their high school cafeteria or the cafeteria at college,

833
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 1: right where everybody was there. It was a place where

834
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:51,319
Speaker 1: that you could build relationships, you could work, you could

835
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:53,760
Speaker 1: hang out right, but it was family right, It felt

836
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,880
Speaker 1: it felt warm. That is what we are trying to

837
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 1: make sure that the adults there are members of the club,

838
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:03,360
Speaker 1: have a similar experience. And so people are there for

839
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 1: different reasons. Again, some folks are there to get some

840
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 1: work done. Others are there to meet people and try

841
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 1: to get business deals done. But all in all, we

842
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 1: want it to be a welcoming and warm experience that

843
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 1: you know was built for you. We have this idea

844
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 1: a lot of times that the spaces that we moved

845
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:22,319
Speaker 1: in and out of were built for everybody. Well, look,

846
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 1: my belief is that somebody was thinking about somebody when

847
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:29,239
Speaker 1: they built whatever it is that you're you're using. I

848
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 1: was thinking about black folks when we were building the

849
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 1: gathering spot, and so the music that you hear, the

850
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:36,879
Speaker 1: food that you'll eat, and the people that you'll see

851
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 1: all go back to this very simple idea if we

852
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 1: need to have a place where we feel comfortable. Well,

853
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Speaker 1: you know, I you know, this is the fun point

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Speaker 1: by talking to Ryan. You know he talks about you know,

855
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Speaker 1: I was in about early twenties, you know, gathering spots.

856
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 1: Only seven years of age now, so it means he's

857
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 1: nice in his early thirties. Okay, you know, I love

858
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 1: talking to him because you know, I'm saw him like

859
00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:58,759
Speaker 1: a couple of years. It was a big event that

860
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 1: I tended hosted over the gathering Spot because it's also

861
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 1: by community and I want to people emphasized that. That's

862
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Speaker 1: why I've been to like several events there. I think

863
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 1: the uh the African American Museum had an event there

864
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 1: where they had the fundraiser there. I went to the

865
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Speaker 1: event for that. Of course, recently was the Big Brother's

866
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 1: Big Sister event where they were it was engaging black

867
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Speaker 1: men to come to the gathering Spot and be mentors

868
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Speaker 1: for for young young people. And this is the type

869
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Speaker 1: of a home that you've created. Um, what makes you

870
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Speaker 1: so proud about it? Ryan, Well, I'm grateful more than anything.

871
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 1: Right when we started this journey, I had no idea

872
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Speaker 1: that anybody was going to come into the first gatherings

873
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 1: about twenty five thousand word feet, right, and so that's

874
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 1: a lot of space to fill up on any given day.

875
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 1: So to know that from the President of the United

876
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Speaker 1: States to your favorite artists, uh, to the many many

877
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 1: figures and leaders throughout including yourself that have spent time

878
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 1: at TGS and hosted programs, talked about the important issues

879
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:09,880
Speaker 1: that are happening in our community. I'm just grateful that

880
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:13,279
Speaker 1: folks saw what we were, this idea that we had

881
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 1: in our head, and have invested their their their time

882
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 1: with us. More memories to count. I mean the club

883
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:22,839
Speaker 1: in Atlanta, we tried to look at it the other day.

884
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Speaker 1: I think we're like ten thousand events in h and

885
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:31,799
Speaker 1: so it's it's humbling, it's amazing talking to Royan will

886
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 1: soon be right back with more money making conversations. Mass

887
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 1: plots don't go anywhere. It's about it's about changing lives

888
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 1: and that's what I've you know, I'm gonna call him

889
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:42,320
Speaker 1: a young man, you know, because he started his idea

890
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Speaker 1: and it's it's it's important to realize that if you

891
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 1: have a dream, don't feel that you're too young or

892
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:52,880
Speaker 1: too old to start pursuing it. And he started it

893
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 1: in his early twenties and he's still living it now

894
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 1: in his early thirties. So the future is bright and

895
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 1: future is strong. And now he's expanded. We were right

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00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:03,280
Speaker 1: back with more money Making Conversations Masterclass with the incredibly

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Speaker 1: gifted and talented founder and CEO, co founder and CEO

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Speaker 1: of The Other Spot, Ryan Wilson. Right back. Please don't

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Speaker 1: go anywhere. We'll be right back with more money Making

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Speaker 1: Conversations Masterclass. You are now tuned into the Money Making

901
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Speaker 1: Conversations Minute of Inspiration with Rashaan McDonald. Following Tameron Hall's

902
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 1: bittersweet exit from NBC Today Show more than two years ago,

903
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Speaker 1: a lot of people wrote her off and some said

904
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Speaker 1: it was a mistake to leave the show. Well, Tameron

905
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Speaker 1: Hall has overcome the odds and now hosts one of

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Speaker 1: the hottest shows in daytime talk. Most important to me

907
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 1: and for me is that folks who are at home

908
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 1: launching know what they're getting. They're getting a real conversation.

909
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:46,880
Speaker 1: I hope they're getting smart questions. We are looking for

910
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:50,760
Speaker 1: substantive ways to make our lives better as people, as parents.

911
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:54,799
Speaker 1: The human experience is a common thread. At the end

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00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:56,799
Speaker 1: of the day, I don't want someone keeping me from

913
00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 1: my dream. I don't want someone you know, standing in

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Speaker 1: my way. I want inspiration. I want to be a

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Speaker 1: better wife, I want to be a better daughter, I

916
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:06,440
Speaker 1: want to be a better mom. And so that's a

917
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:08,759
Speaker 1: big part of what we talk about on our show.

918
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Speaker 1: If you want to hear this full interview with Tamarin Hall,

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00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 1: visit Moneymaking Conversation dot com. Keep winning. Welcome back to

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Speaker 1: the Money Making Conversations Masterclass hosted by ris Sean McDonald.

921
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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Money Making Conversations Masterclass. Speaking to Ryan Wilson,

922
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 1: the co founding CEO of the Gathering Spot. He's on

923
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:28,920
Speaker 1: the show for some other things. They're American, I mean

924
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 1: the African the Atlanta Business League has celebrating the nintieth anniversary.

925
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 1: Before we get into that more detail, I just want

926
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Speaker 1: to wrap my head around one more thing. The fintech,

927
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 1: which is financial tech and the community platforms that are

928
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 1: available at the gathering spot. When you're here, the word

929
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 1: fintech a lot being thrown around. What exactly is that

930
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 1: and how you guys being one of the lynch pins

931
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 1: or one of the forward thinking platforms for that. So

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Speaker 1: fintech broadly speaks to this idea that there are a

933
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Speaker 1: new set of companies that are trying to provide financial

934
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Speaker 1: services or financial solutions to people. Our particular solution we

935
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 1: required our company called Greenwood, and the goal there is

936
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Speaker 1: to bank our community at scale, providing a lot of

937
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:22,759
Speaker 1: different products, so from savings and credit to investing you

938
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:26,800
Speaker 1: will see the company over time really speaks to the

939
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 1: entire financial health of our community. Why that's important is

940
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 1: that at TGS I mentioned all the programs that we've

941
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 1: been hosting for our entire history. A lot of those

942
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:39,239
Speaker 1: conversations get back to us talking about money, right, but

943
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 1: we realized that we didn't actually have the tool. We

944
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 1: could talk about it right, but we didn't have the

945
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:49,359
Speaker 1: ability to bank or or help our community actually gain

946
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 1: access to the tools that we were speaking about. So

947
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 1: what the two companies coming together helps to accomplish is

948
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:57,440
Speaker 1: that goal. We can talk about it and host our

949
00:48:57,480 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 1: programs and meet one another, but then we also get

950
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:03,319
Speaker 1: connected to the right resources. Um that that again at

951
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 1: scale becomes a really powerful thing. You know when I

952
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 1: when I when I bring interviews onto the show and

953
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:11,840
Speaker 1: I it was a couple of things that happened in

954
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 1: my life, you know, like to like I said, Ryan,

955
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 1: I was born in Houston, and then I moved to

956
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 1: New York when I thought I was going to be

957
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:20,399
Speaker 1: the next Eddie Murphy doing my stand up comedy career,

958
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 1: and it was just how how empowering that city was

959
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:26,360
Speaker 1: emotionally for me. And when I moved to LA because

960
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:27,880
Speaker 1: you know, you you kind of grow up and you

961
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 1: really realize how much history has taught to you about

962
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 1: New York. So when you get up there, you kind

963
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:35,399
Speaker 1: of like walking around going wow, that's wow, Wow, Brooklyn Bridge, Wild,

964
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 1: Empire State Building. And then I went to LA. It

965
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:41,920
Speaker 1: was the same way you know, Muscle Beach and uh

966
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 1: Walk of Fame in the Chinese Theater, And it's becoming

967
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 1: the same way with the city of Atlanta. This is

968
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:51,759
Speaker 1: becoming a lot of landmarks, big events are constantly being

969
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:55,360
Speaker 1: held here. And when you talk about the Atlanta Business League,

970
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:58,240
Speaker 1: what is your relationship with them and what's the purpose

971
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:01,320
Speaker 1: of us discussing on the show to that. So I

972
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Speaker 1: have the privilege of serving as the new chair of

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Speaker 1: the Atlanta Business League, and it's important for everyone to

974
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Speaker 1: know if you are a black owned business in Atlanta,

975
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 1: you have been impacted by the work of the Atlanta

976
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:15,000
Speaker 1: Business League. This is our ninetieth year as an organization,

977
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Speaker 1: and so my job is in that very rich history

978
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Speaker 1: to continue the effort to advocate and advance the interests

979
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Speaker 1: of black owned businesses in Atlanta specifically. So we've got

980
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:32,760
Speaker 1: a great, great organization and a great history, but also

981
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 1: a great current membership that is again focused on the

982
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 1: issues of the day. Now we talk about the Congress

983
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:42,920
Speaker 1: It's purpose. I lined up our target audience, key takeaways

984
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:46,240
Speaker 1: for the attendees. Talk about that because it sponsors Norfolk

985
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Speaker 1: Southern w CRK, and Atlanta AJC, which is is a

986
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 1: print publication is located in the Atlanta, George area. Those

987
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 1: important sponsors are important. You gotta mention them, you gotta

988
00:50:58,120 --> 00:50:59,719
Speaker 1: be able to say what they do and they serve

989
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:02,839
Speaker 1: their purpose. But what audience are you really trying to reach?

990
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:05,799
Speaker 1: Because right now everybody's laying off everybody. You know, you're

991
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:08,400
Speaker 1: you know, Disney laying off. You know, Google laid off

992
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:10,840
Speaker 1: twelve thousand people via email. They didn't even want to

993
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:14,759
Speaker 1: tell you personally. And so you know, Amazons laying off people.

994
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 1: So when you talk entrepreneurship and then you talk about layoffs,

995
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 1: where does where does the excitement happen and where's the enthusiam.

996
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:26,920
Speaker 1: Enthusiasm of the Atlanta Business League helps out the individual

997
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:30,720
Speaker 1: as well as the small businesses. Yeah, so everyone is welcome.

998
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:32,759
Speaker 1: Keep that, please keep that in mind, right, But our

999
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 1: focus is everything connected to black owned businesses that are

1000
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:40,440
Speaker 1: in Atlanta and the folks that are interested in partnering

1001
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 1: with them. So you will see some of the largest

1002
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:45,920
Speaker 1: companies in town. I thank you for mentioning our sponsors,

1003
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 1: but you will see some of the larger organizations in

1004
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 1: town that are interested in doing business with some of

1005
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:54,320
Speaker 1: the businesses that are The members of the League also

1006
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 1: present the Congress that's coming up. It is April eleventh,

1007
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:01,360
Speaker 1: and it's all day. It's from to three o'clock. The

1008
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:05,880
Speaker 1: goal of the this is our sixteenth annual Congress on

1009
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 1: the State of Black Business. Goal of this day is

1010
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:11,399
Speaker 1: again to talk about the important issues that we're seeing

1011
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:15,480
Speaker 1: what we will engage what's happening in the market broadly,

1012
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:19,800
Speaker 1: but then also give very practical advice by way of

1013
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:24,920
Speaker 1: of of a panel discussions about what black owned businesses

1014
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:27,400
Speaker 1: in the city can be or should be thinking about

1015
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:29,840
Speaker 1: as they continue to grow and scale their companies. You know,

1016
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:32,360
Speaker 1: it's really interesting dude, because and I think you can

1017
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:35,280
Speaker 1: agree with me, Like in twenty twenty, you know, the pandemic,

1018
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 1: but also the unfortunate murder of George Floyd in the

1019
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:47,280
Speaker 1: state of Minnesota, and there was a huge push for diversity,

1020
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:50,320
Speaker 1: equity inclusion. Well, I'm out the business just like you.

1021
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:54,320
Speaker 1: It feels like that law for that push because politics

1022
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:57,239
Speaker 1: are getting involved in it means that you know, people

1023
00:52:57,360 --> 00:53:00,200
Speaker 1: trying to say diversity is a bad word shouldn't be us.

1024
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:04,359
Speaker 1: It's like a reverse racism in a sense. Now when

1025
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 1: you talk about black businesses, you know at one time

1026
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 1: they were you know, companies will pursuing us, pursuing our opportunities.

1027
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 1: It feels not with a different hustle speed. Now am

1028
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 1: I Am I wrong in saying that? Bryan? Are you

1029
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 1: seeing something differently than what I'm seeing? No, I'm not

1030
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 1: seeing seeing much different. Look one of my favorite quoteses,

1031
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:24,320
Speaker 1: do you really want to win or look good losing?

1032
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 1: And I think, unfortunately a lot of times in the diversity,

1033
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 1: equity and inclusion space, it's not always about winning, right,

1034
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:35,480
Speaker 1: it's about looking looking good losing. That is not in

1035
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:38,279
Speaker 1: our interest, right, we actually have to it's it's in

1036
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:41,359
Speaker 1: everybody's interests, no matter who you are, that black owned

1037
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 1: businesses grow in scale. We've got to continue to see yes,

1038
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:50,399
Speaker 1: them be started, right, but also watch these companies get

1039
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:54,560
Speaker 1: to meaningful scale. What that means are more employment opportunities

1040
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:58,279
Speaker 1: for folks. That means better participation in our communities and

1041
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 1: the ability to be able to to spend in our community.

1042
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:04,759
Speaker 1: So look, I do agree with you that we are

1043
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:07,960
Speaker 1: entering a time period where it feels like, um, you know,

1044
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:10,880
Speaker 1: we we we we came saw and conquered as it

1045
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 1: you know, as we needed to for black home businesses

1046
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 1: and our advocacy and support of them. Right, We're not

1047
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 1: there yet, And I mean the ninety ninety years of

1048
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 1: the Atlanta Business League tells you pretty quickly that we've

1049
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 1: had a lot to discuss for a long time, but

1050
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:30,120
Speaker 1: we're not nowhere near the finish line. And it's important

1051
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 1: to continue to keep a spotlight on what is a

1052
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:35,879
Speaker 1: very important issue. He is a leader, a natural leader,

1053
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:38,839
Speaker 1: still a young man and uh he's a leader when

1054
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:42,719
Speaker 1: I say that. Combined collaborating business community of over one

1055
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 1: million people. The CEO and co found of the gathering

1056
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:49,600
Speaker 1: spot located in um like you said, Atlanta, d C

1057
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:52,719
Speaker 1: and as well as Los Angeles physical location, as well

1058
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:56,319
Speaker 1: as hotspots in places like Chicago in Houston. Again, thank

1059
00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 1: you for coming on my show, Money Making Conversation Masterclass, Ryan.

1060
00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 1: I appreciate you having let me tell you about the

1061
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Speaker 1: Money Making Conversations Masterclass hosted by Rushan McDonald. People always

1062
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:09,799
Speaker 1: talk about their purpose or gifts. If you have a gift,

1063
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:12,800
Speaker 1: lead with your gifts and don't let your friends, family,

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