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Speaker 1: A five toupeez JJ McCarthy.

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Speaker 3: He is JJ McCarthy, and that is Paul Allen of

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Speaker 3: NFL Daily. I am Greg Rosenthal. I am joined as

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Speaker 3: always on Primetime Games by Nick Shook to talk about

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Speaker 3: another big time comeback in a primetime games. Not all

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Speaker 3: comebacks are equal, but this one, the Vikings trailing seventeen

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Speaker 3: the restorative power of a great defense can lead you

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Speaker 3: the Bears over and over and over again until finally

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Speaker 3: JJ McCarthy suddenly got religion. On offense, everything slowed down

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Speaker 3: for him and he scored three touchdowns in successive drives,

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Speaker 3: usually off good field position, and the Minnesota Vikings go

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Speaker 3: into Chicago and steal won twenty seven to twenty four. Nick,

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Speaker 3: to me, this was more improbable than the Bills come

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Speaker 3: JJ McCarthy for three quarters of this game look completely lost.

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Speaker 3: But that's why we watched this, That's why we love this.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, JJ McCarthy found God, and what Kevin O'Connell did

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Speaker 1: was found simplification of the offense. I mean, the operation

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Speaker 1: And it all started with I think the defense, like

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Speaker 3: Yes, welcome to the YouTube audience who is watching this live.

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Speaker 3: We are going to do this live every single Monday night.

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Speaker 3: Appreciate you all being here. And I thought it was

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Speaker 1: Get it done, Caleb, as he's always known.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. His accuracy did wane in the latter

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Speaker 3: They had just twelve penalties shook for one hundred and

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Speaker 1: about the Bears this season, I think Caush's optimism. It

437
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Speaker 1: didn't happen overnight with the Lions when Ben Johnson was

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Speaker 1: on that staff as the OC, it took him a

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Speaker 1: while and they finally turned the corner. So I definitely

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Speaker 1: recommend patience. You see some things to like, yes, but

441
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Speaker 1: it's gonna be a work that you know, a work

442
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Speaker 1: in progress is gonna take multiple weeks or months and

443
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Speaker 1: everything else. And you're gonna look back on this game. Dang,

444
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Speaker 1: we lost to the Vikings in Week one. We shouldn't

445
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Speaker 1: have lost that game. You're gonna move past this at

446
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Speaker 1: some point and hopefully it's gonna be produce better results.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. So I should have mentioned at the top of

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Speaker 3: the show. I'm just so excited to be on with you,

449
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Speaker 3: Nick and talk about this game that you know, Monday

450
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Speaker 3: Nights are not just about the game. We are gonna

451
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Speaker 3: hit some news from around the league. In just a

452
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Speaker 3: little bit, we had a trade including the Eagles. We

453
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Speaker 3: had some big time news in terms of injuries, in

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Speaker 3: terms of the forty nine ers. I think you know,

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Speaker 3: before we move on from this game, is there is

456
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Speaker 3: there anything else that you want to get out there,

457
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Speaker 3: Because like Jordan took the Vikings as a survivor pick,

458
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Speaker 3: and I thought that was extremely bold and it just

459
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Speaker 3: shows that she's a she's a ball knower, and she

460
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Speaker 3: was she was honking on text tonight too about how

461
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Speaker 3: good like she was talking up Jordan Mason, and I

462
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Speaker 3: like how you pointed that out too. I'm curious if

463
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Speaker 3: you have any other major takeaways before we.

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Speaker 1: Move I like the team that Ryan Poles has constructed,

465
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Speaker 1: Like Tonal Passno makes a big play and I'm like,

466
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Speaker 1: he's in Chicago, Oh, just elevated from the practice squad.

467
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Speaker 1: Like that's a deep dive on a former relattively a

468
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Speaker 1: high pick that played in Kansas City that suddenly you're like,

469
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Speaker 1: you know what, let's give him a shot, Let's give

470
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Speaker 1: him some money. Makes a play, And I do trust

471
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Speaker 1: the process with this team, I'd like their receiving corps

472
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Speaker 1: more than I did last year. I worry about the

473
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Speaker 1: Vikings receiving core for the next three weeks, But overall,

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Speaker 1: this is gonna be one of those games. Like I said,

475
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Speaker 1: it's week one, We're gonna look back and it's it's

476
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Speaker 1: probably not gonna indicate all that much to us other

477
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Speaker 1: than that. The discourse on JJ McCarthy this week, it's

478
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Speaker 1: gonna be real annoying because they're gonna get a lot

479
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Speaker 1: of oh he's a gamer.

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Speaker 3: The Ohio State thing because it was going poorly. You

481
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Speaker 3: thought you were gonna the football.

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Speaker 1: I put this on. I put this on five minutes

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Speaker 1: before we did the show.

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Speaker 3: Okay, well that was a bad choice. I mean, what

485
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Speaker 3: were you wearing.

486
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Speaker 1: Before, like the cutoff T shirt? I'm at home.

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Speaker 3: Fine, give the give the viewers what they want.

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Speaker 1: You know, I gotta have some I gotta have sleeves

489
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Speaker 1: for professionalism.

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Speaker 3: We're I mean, you want to see.

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Speaker 1: This all show.

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Speaker 3: I don't know you're you're you're an athlete showed off. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: There were good performances by the Bears defensive line, especially

494
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Speaker 3: die A Dengbo, who was a pickup in the offseason.

495
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Speaker 3: Had a nice night with the Sacarbon Dexter, who's been

496
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Speaker 3: a slowly improving player on the interior, was better. But yeah,

497
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Speaker 3: it's it's gonna take a minute here. I think for

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Speaker 3: Ben Johnson to get this offense in sync. A lot

499
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Speaker 3: of those penalties were on the offense, and it will

500
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Speaker 3: be a test of him as well, like how much

501
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Speaker 3: patience can he have as a coach, because you can

502
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Speaker 3: tell he he like grips that play sheet pretty tight.

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Speaker 3: I also think JJ McCarthy has to like almost figure

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Speaker 3: out maybe how to do less. I wonder if Kevin

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Speaker 3: O'Connell got in his ear about that because because that

506
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Speaker 3: pick six came after you know, he was checking. He

507
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Speaker 3: was changing the place way too much, way too much, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I got to that point.

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Speaker 1: The first four plays he's like checking and I'm watching

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Speaker 1: the play they break the huddle with nine seconds He's

511
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Speaker 1: out there trying to check to a different play. I'm

512
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Speaker 1: like snap the.

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Speaker 3: Ball right and and like they were having trouble like

514
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Speaker 3: getting the snap off and everything. But it also was like, man,

515
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Speaker 3: this is your first start, and I get what you're

516
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:03,359
Speaker 3: trying to do and everything, but it's almost like he

517
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Speaker 3: was trying to show too much that he's ready and

518
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Speaker 3: all the things that he learned, because it felt like

519
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Speaker 3: almost every play he was changing. And that would be

520
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Speaker 3: fine if, like I saw him changing into good plays,

521
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Speaker 3: but he kept changing into bad plays like that pick six.

522
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Speaker 3: But man, all that matters is how it ends. And uh,

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Speaker 3: you know, I hate I hate like, oh he's a

524
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Speaker 3: gamer analysis but a little like Michael Pennox, I thought

525
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Speaker 3: at the end of that Falcons game, I know they

526
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Speaker 3: didn't win it, man, I just thought JJ McCarthy made

527
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Speaker 3: a ton of winning plays when it really mattered, and

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Speaker 3: that matters, Like he ended up with one hundred and

529
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Speaker 3: forty yards, the whole team only ended up with two fifty.

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Speaker 3: Like I'm not gonna pretend.

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Speaker 1: We had eighty five yards after three quarters, Like I'm

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Speaker 1: not gonna pretend it was some great put but but

533
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Speaker 1: it matters, like it mattered to me watching that pen

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Speaker 1: X game.

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Speaker 3: That man, he played his very best on his last

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Speaker 3: you know, few drives of the game. We have a

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Speaker 3: question asking do you think JJ's performance in the four

538
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Speaker 3: it is more telling of his potential or O'Connell's ability

539
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Speaker 3: to develop quarterbacks. Look Kevin O'Connell's ability to develop quarterbacks

540
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Speaker 3: at this point is unquestioned. I think he is one

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Speaker 3: of the best to do it. I don't know what

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Speaker 3: JJ McCarthy is going to be long term based on

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Speaker 3: this performance, but uh, I guess my answer then is

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Speaker 3: more O'Connell.

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Speaker 1: He's got moxie like I'm gonna sound like he's a gamer,

546
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Speaker 1: but he does have moxie like you know, at the

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Speaker 1: end of the day.

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Speaker 3: I think it could be both. But but O'Connell, I've

549
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Speaker 3: seen him do it with you know, Josh Dobbs and

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Speaker 3: Nick Mullins in some similar spots. So i'll give the

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Speaker 3: nod to O'Connell for now. But a great a great

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Speaker 3: first game for the Vikings to get off and running. Unfortunately,

553
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Speaker 3: they did lose Blake Cashman there with the hamstring injury

554
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Speaker 3: at one point. Okay, let's take a moment here, let's

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Speaker 3: reset if you're if you're listening to the audio, We're

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Speaker 3: going to take a break right now. Let's get into

557
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Speaker 3: the news. It is time for deliverying results presented by

558
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Speaker 3: Uber Eats. Yes, I want to mention that Tank Bigsby

559
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Speaker 3: was traded tonight to the Philadelphia Eagles. Nick Shook. I

560
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Speaker 3: wouldn't have been surprised if this trade happened a week

561
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Speaker 3: before the season started, but I was surprised that it

562
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Speaker 3: came out on Monday night, right before this game began.

563
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Speaker 3: The Eagles send a fifth and a sixth round pick

564
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Speaker 3: to Jacksonville for Tank Bigsby. The Jaguars now have thirteen

565
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Speaker 3: picks in next year's track, which is absolutely outrageous. Clearly

566
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Speaker 3: a strategy there. It reminds me a lot of what

567
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Speaker 3: James Gladstone, their general manager, did when he was in

568
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Speaker 3: Los Angeles one year, just loading up on late picks

569
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Speaker 3: because they don't even have their first round pick because

570
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Speaker 3: of the Travis Hunter trade. But they have thirteen picks

571
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Speaker 3: now and Tank Bigsby goes to the Eagles. What did

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Speaker 3: you think about this?

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Speaker 1: This has been a storyline that we've tracked since before

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Speaker 1: camp started, but it was centered not on Tank Bigsby.

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Speaker 1: It was centered on Travis Etn. It was such a

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Speaker 1: buzzworthy topic at the time that Liam Cohen had to

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Speaker 1: come out and express plenty of confidence and appreciation for

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Speaker 1: what Travis Etn brought to the Jaguars. So I'm thinking, Okay,

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Speaker 1: whoever doesn't win this battle in preseason is going to

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Speaker 1: get traded, but I'm leaning Etn, so I'm a bit

581
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Speaker 1: surprised to see that Bigsby gets traded because he led

582
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Speaker 1: them in rushing last year. He outperformed Travis Etn. But

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Speaker 1: what we didn't consider is that they've played a game already,

584
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Speaker 1: and in that game, Travis Etn ran the ball sixteen

585
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Speaker 1: times for one hundred and forty three yards and suddenly,

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Speaker 1: guess what, Tank, pack your bags are going somewhere else.

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Speaker 1: The other end of the trade that I have a

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Speaker 1: lot of questions about is the fact that he went

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Speaker 1: to the Eagles, the same team with Saquon Barkley in

590
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Speaker 1: the backfield, the same team that went got aj Dillon

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Speaker 1: as a power back, the same team that has Will

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Speaker 1: Shipley in the backfield, which is not as soon inspiring player,

593
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Speaker 1: but I like him as a player. So the question

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Speaker 1: I had was, is Shipley hurt? Is Saquon dinged? Or

595
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:08,919
Speaker 1: do they miss what they lost in Kenny Gainwell And

596
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:10,639
Speaker 1: they feel like they needed to add another player in

597
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Speaker 1: their backfield and Tank was the perfect guy for it.

598
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Speaker 1: So we'll find out. But it's the Eagles accruing talent

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Speaker 1: because again they're in their title window.

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Speaker 3: I think it's so funny that they've become a team

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Speaker 3: now that is majoring and running backs. Yeah, like that's

602
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 3: not what we thought they were gonna be. And yeah

603
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Speaker 3: the comment there that it's root and toot. In time,

604
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,359
Speaker 3: we'll get to the Jaguars side of it. But everyone

605
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Speaker 3: who bought stock, like me and Basel Tutin, not just

606
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 3: in fantasy but just in reality in the preseason, is

607
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Speaker 3: celebrating because I think this trade is absolutely about him

608
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Speaker 3: from the Jaguars side. But the Eagles, to me, I

609
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 3: think are more interesting because they're trying to win a

610
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Speaker 3: super Bowl. And you said it, I thought AJ Dillon

611
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Speaker 3: looked good in that like one or two carries that

612
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Speaker 3: they gave him in that game. Will Shipley they like

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Speaker 3: a lot, so maybe we will hear about an injury.

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Speaker 3: I don't think of Tank Bigsby's certainly as a Kenny

615
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 3: Gainbell type. They are missing that in theory. I think

616
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Speaker 3: that's that's kind of what Will Shipley would be. But

617
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Speaker 3: maybe they just want to have depth. Maybe they're not

618
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Speaker 3: happy with with aj Dillon, but they gave up some

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Speaker 3: real capital, like a fifth and the sixth round pick

620
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 3: is is a real trade, and they seriously wanted to

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Speaker 3: improve that room. So they were thought about nick as

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Speaker 3: like team analytics, running backs don't matter, don't pay the

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Speaker 3: running backs, and also the what's the other position that

624
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 3: doesn't matter? Inside linebacker, just like we don't need to

625
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 3: play linebacker team and who they bought literally the best

626
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 3: inside linebacker due now in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but they bought low.

628
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Speaker 3: We bought low.

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Speaker 1: They bought low on Bond last year and then you know,

630
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 1: made out like Gangbusters. And then they spend a top

631
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Speaker 1: pick on Johat Campbell. So it's like, right now, that's a.

632
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Speaker 3: First DROB pick and they just gave a contract to Bond,

633
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Speaker 3: And I think it's it's kind of like the Lessons,

634
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Speaker 3: if we want to think of them as analytically minded,

635
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 3: moneyball all all that. Like it's just looking for edges,

636
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 3: and at a certain point, after everyone copies what you're doing,

637
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 3: like the edge becomes doing the opposite.

638
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 1: Of zig you zag, Right, It's.

639
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Speaker 3: Basically like doing stocks. Do you like Bacial Tutan? Do

640
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 3: you have a hot take on him?

641
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 1: I've already facial Tutan put down a great forty time

642
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 1: with the combine. He like kind of set the running

643
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Speaker 1: back to stay on fire in Indianapolis, and he was

644
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 1: the talk of the town that night. He also seemed

645
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 1: to have an issue with ball security, and Camp kind

646
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 1: of faded into the background as they went through the preseason.

647
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Speaker 1: I think a lot of that was because of the

648
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Speaker 1: trade rumors with Etn and who was going to go

649
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Speaker 1: between him and Bigsby. But it felt like he was

650
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Speaker 1: running back three in that depth. Right now he's running

651
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Speaker 1: back two. I like him as a as a big

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Speaker 1: play potential guy because of his speed, but we don't

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Speaker 1: have a lot of proof because he's a rookie and

654
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Speaker 1: everything else, and because et N is the lead back,

655
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Speaker 1: So as a spell guy with big play potential, yeah,

656
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Speaker 1: I do like him. I wouldn't buy as much stock

657
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Speaker 1: as you did, but it's aspirational stock anyway, and it's

658
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Speaker 1: worth nothing, so why not buy it all.

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Speaker 3: It's not he's in the mix, he's he's now going

660
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Speaker 3: to be a major factor. Because Travis Etn is a

661
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Speaker 3: really good running back, and I thought he had his

662
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Speaker 3: best game of his career. It really wasn't just that

663
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Speaker 3: long run. Just overall. He looked patient, It looked like

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Speaker 3: the system fit him. I think he can run with power.

665
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Speaker 3: He's obviously got the speed. Like he's not a powerful guy,

666
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Speaker 3: but I think he's shown he could run inside the

667
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Speaker 3: tackles enough. But he's not a guy you're going to

668
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Speaker 3: want to give twenty five thirty touches to in a game.

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Speaker 3: And when Tutin came in for ETN after he ripped

670
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Speaker 3: off that seventy one yarder because he was tired, like

671
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Speaker 3: Tutan's first run, his jump cuts are so violent and

672
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Speaker 3: he just jumped from one hole laterally but also while

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Speaker 3: moving forward to get like an eight yard run. You

674
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Speaker 3: just you just know what when you see it, I

675
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Speaker 3: think he's special like it. You know who he reminds

676
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Speaker 3: me of is Joe Mixon as a runner, And Joe

677
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 3: Mixon isn't running a four to three, But I just

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Speaker 3: mean in the like the violence of the way Joe

679
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Speaker 3: Mixon cut coming out, I think like, oh man, that's spicy.

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Speaker 3: And I get a little vibe from that from Tuton

681
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Speaker 3: so fun. We get a nice little Monday night trade

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Speaker 3: and yes, that was delivering results. I think Touton is

683
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Speaker 3: going to be delivering results. And it's presented by Uber Eats,

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Speaker 3: of the NFL Order. Now, okay, let's go to the

687
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Speaker 3: injuries that we found out on Monday evening, our insiders

688
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 3: confirming that George Kittle is going to be out multiple weeks.

689
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Speaker 3: Kyle Shanahan ended up talking about it and saying that

690
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Speaker 3: injured reserve is at least a possibility for George Kittle

691
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Speaker 3: because it's gonna be multiple weeks after leaving on Sunday.

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Speaker 3: And then the bigger surprise is that Rock Purdy is

693
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Speaker 3: uncertain for Week two. I mean, he stayed in that

694
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Speaker 3: and I thought he played a lot better than the

695
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Speaker 3: highlights would have indicated in terms of the interception, but

696
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Speaker 3: he is now uncertain for their Week two game. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I actually went back and watched this game again today

698
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Speaker 1: just to get the full play by a play review

699
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Speaker 1: of it, and I was trying to spot when I

700
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Speaker 1: thought he might have hurt the toe, and I think

701
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Speaker 1: it happened when Julian Love came in on the blitz

702
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Speaker 1: and sacked him because his foot got planned awkwardly. But

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Speaker 1: I'm shocked that first off, Kyle said that the toe

704
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Speaker 1: injury is more important than the shoulder thing that he's

705
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Speaker 1: dealing with. I'm shocked that he finished that game and

706
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Speaker 1: was able to make that throw on the run at

707
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Speaker 1: the end of tan just for the touchdown. With that injury,

708
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Speaker 1: It's maybe one of those things where the adrenaline everything else,

709
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Speaker 1: it doesn't start to really hurt until the next day,

710
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Speaker 1: and then he realized, oh God, I'm in a tough spot.

711
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Speaker 1: I am concerned that. I'm not concerned that they don't

712
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Speaker 1: have Kittle because there's ways to make up for that. Granted,

713
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Speaker 1: they don't have a lot of receivers healthy, so it's

714
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Speaker 1: a loss, but they were able to win that game

715
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Speaker 1: without Kittle. He left in the second quarter. I'm more

716
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Speaker 1: concerned if you don't have Rock Perdy, how this suddenly

717
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Speaker 1: just shrinks your offense as hole and a foot issue

718
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Speaker 1: is something that could linger, you know, and you know

719
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Speaker 1: how important feed are, especially the guys like quarterbacks. So

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Speaker 1: it's interesting on the Kittle side, because Kyle said a

721
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Speaker 1: few weeks, Ian Rapport reported three to five. Short term

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Speaker 1: ir makes sense. The extra week might make sense, like

723
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Speaker 1: if your windows three weeks and you want to go

724
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Speaker 1: four and designate to return that sort of thing. I

725
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Speaker 1: think that would make sense. Since it happened in week one,

726
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Speaker 1: you have a longer runway. But I wrote this when

727
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Speaker 1: I wrote it up today. It wouldn't be a forty

728
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Speaker 1: nine Ers season if somebody important didn't get hurt early

729
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Speaker 1: like it. It's just a repetitive thing with them, and

730
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Speaker 1: it bums me out.

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Speaker 3: I'm very concerned. I think they have a few pillars

732
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Speaker 3: in their offense. And yeah, Chris points out in the comments,

733
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Speaker 3: we love all the comments guys that that CMC is

734
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Speaker 3: now the healthiest guy in San Francisco, just as we

735
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Speaker 3: all suspected. So they have a few pillars that make

736
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Speaker 3: them special. It's Christian McCaffrey, it's Trent Williams, it's George

737
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Speaker 3: Kittle and prety. I think think does elevate ultimately the

738
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Speaker 3: people around him. A toe injury is very concerning. But

739
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Speaker 3: Kittle's thirty two years old, and I know he's coming

740
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Speaker 3: off one of his best seasons of his entire career.

741
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Speaker 3: But he is thirty two years old and starting the

742
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Speaker 3: season with a hamstring injury at that age, and he

743
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Speaker 3: is a player that has had injury issues that have

744
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Speaker 3: kept him out is concerning because they are just not

745
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Speaker 3: the same without him. Juwan Jennings left that game with

746
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Speaker 3: an injury. It doesn't sound like that when it is

747
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Speaker 3: going to be overly serious. I do think they have

748
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Speaker 3: something really good in Ricky Piers. I'm not saying there

749
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Speaker 3: without weapons, but Trent Williams had one of the worst

750
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Speaker 3: games of his career. I was shocked rewatching that game.

751
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Speaker 3: I've never seen Trent Williams struggle that much.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he might just play better than m Colt mckivit's

753
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Speaker 1: played better than him.

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Speaker 3: On Sunday, speaking of Colton mckivit'z he's signed a contract

755
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Speaker 3: extension since we last recorded. Good job by you setting

756
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Speaker 3: me up there, Nick Schuck. I thought it was a

757
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Speaker 3: very reasonable one, considering he's like an average tackle, and

758
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Speaker 3: average tackles get paid, you know, twenty million plus on

759
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Speaker 3: the open market. And so I think we criticized the

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Speaker 3: forty nine ers for waiting till the last second to

761
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Speaker 3: get all these contracts done and then everyone gets upset. Well,

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Speaker 3: this is an example of them maybe changing their ways.

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Speaker 3: So good job by them there. I am concerned, especially

764
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Speaker 3: if Purdy does not play, and I was referring to

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Speaker 3: how I thought he did better, then you could tell

766
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Speaker 3: me if you disagree. There were some groaners like that

767
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:29,840
Speaker 3: the interceptions were really good plays by the Seahawks, but

768
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Speaker 3: he threw a few up for grabs. But he had

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Speaker 3: five or six awesome throws in that game, didn't you think?

770
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Speaker 3: And yeah, I agree, and held up under pressure, I

771
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Speaker 3: thought pretty well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, on the rewatch. That's the part of why I

773
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Speaker 1: went and rewatched, because I'm like, I watched this live,

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Speaker 1: maybe not on an exact play by a play basis,

775
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Speaker 1: because I'm, you know, got like five games up or whatever.

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Speaker 1: I think there was four in that window, and I

777
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Speaker 1: went back because I felt uncertain about how his performance

778
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Speaker 1: really went because the one thing that stuck at The

779
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:57,839
Speaker 1: two plays that stuck out in my mind were the

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Speaker 1: second interception he threw and then the touchdown path he threw,

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Speaker 1: and the Ernest Jones interception was a great play I

782
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Speaker 1: think made by Ernest Jones. So I wanted to run

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Speaker 1: it back, and I agree. I think that there were

784
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Speaker 1: more positive throws than negative throws in that game. He

785
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Speaker 1: comes through in the clutch as well, and he did

786
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Speaker 1: it without George Kittle out there too, So yeah, I

787
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Speaker 1: think that the highlights common example of how the Highlight

788
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Speaker 1: package doesn't always do a guy justice. I look at

789
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Speaker 1: Dylan Gabriel's Week two preseason game as another example. Watch

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Speaker 1: every play to truly get an understanding of how a

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Speaker 1: quarterback played.

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Speaker 3: Wait, that was the good Dylan Gabriel.

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Speaker 1: Wonder that was the Dylan Gabriel game, his first one

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Speaker 1: where he threw a really bad pick six. Yes, and

795
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Speaker 1: the rest of the game was pretty good. Yes.

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Speaker 3: That I lost track of my Dylan Gabriel games as

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Speaker 3: one does good context. I had a whole segment plan

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Speaker 3: for brock Party tomorrow. If you watch our show on Tuesday,

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Speaker 3: me and Jordan rod Rieg are gonna do good omens

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Speaker 3: bad omens. For the twenty twenty five NFL season, the

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00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:54,360
Speaker 3: forty nine ers first drive of the season to me,

802
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 3: was going to be a good omen. They got the

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Speaker 3: ball in the five yard line. Brock Party was under

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Speaker 3: heat over in in that drive, and he kept finding

805
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:06,319
Speaker 3: receivers that weren't really open. And I've become a rock

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Speaker 3: Pretty defender lately. I don't think he's amazing, but I

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Speaker 3: think he's I think he's a plus quarterback who makes

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00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 3: a lot of difficult throws that aren't really there, And

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Speaker 3: I think he elevates actually the people around him, and

810
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:23,359
Speaker 3: even if he makes some mistakes that prevent him from

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Speaker 3: being a top eight quarterback, like he's a value add

812
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Speaker 3: It was better than I think people think, and that

813
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Speaker 3: is no longer going to be my good omen, Chuck,

814
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Speaker 3: you got to be able to audible Sometimes wouldn't really

815
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Speaker 3: make sense for tomorrow's show. So I'm glad we got

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Speaker 3: him in here. You know what I'm also glad to

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Speaker 3: get in the rest of the news is actually sponsored.

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Speaker 3: It's time for our Kickoff Week recap, presented by Nationwide.

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Speaker 3: I predicted on Sunday night's show, Nick, you might remember

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Speaker 3: that Brian Dable is going to make the change at

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Speaker 3: quarterback because they asked him after the game if he's

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Speaker 3: considering a change, and he said yeah, and then he

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Speaker 3: didn't answer the question. And when coaches are noncommittal, I've

824
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Speaker 3: learned over the years they're gonna make a change. Now.

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Speaker 3: I should have been a little more careful. That's always

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Speaker 3: the case when that happens on Monday. It's mostly the

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Speaker 3: case when it happens right after the game and they're emotional,

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Speaker 3: and in the end, I was wrong. I'll wear it

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Speaker 3: when I'm wrong Brian Dabele, you proved me wrong.

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Speaker 2: Do you intend to start Russell Wilson this week? Yes? Yep? Okay,

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Speaker 2: I mean and after a game. You know, it's an

832
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Speaker 2: emotional game, it's tough game. You know, didn't play particularly well,

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Speaker 2: I would say collectively. But in terms of making any

834
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Speaker 2: of those decisions really at any position or schematic changes,

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Speaker 2: I'd like to, you know, do it with a clear

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Speaker 2: head and watch watch the tape. And again, like I

837
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Speaker 2: said yesterday, that that game wasn't just doesn't fall on

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Speaker 2: Russell Wilson.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay. First off, I have your back because I

840
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Speaker 1: got a similar vibe from his response the window in

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Speaker 1: which he delivered it. You're right, after the game, can't

842
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Speaker 1: take it, you know, completely, one hundred percent at face value.

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00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 1: You got to take it with a grain of salt.

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Speaker 1: I don't think you were wrong here because I think

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Speaker 1: that eventually he's going to make this decision. And I

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Speaker 1: think Jordan explained it perfectly on the show yesterday, which

847
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Speaker 1: is that in that goal line scenario when they failed

848
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Speaker 1: to get a touchdown, they had like seven plays down

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Speaker 1: there and they end up settling for three. He made

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Speaker 1: that decision. As if I can't watch this anymore because

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Speaker 1: I ran this game back today and I had the

852
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Speaker 1: same conclusion where I was like, I cannot believe that

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Speaker 1: you couldn't punch the ball into the end zone from there.

854
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Speaker 1: And it's not a running game thing. It's the fact

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Speaker 1: that Russell Wilson in this game. I know he already

856
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:46,840
Speaker 1: broke it down yesterday, but there were multiple times where

857
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Speaker 1: pocket's pretty clean, and if his first read's not there,

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Speaker 1: he's looking to take off as if it's twenty fourteen,

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Speaker 1: not forgetting that it's twenty twenty five. That's a bad

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Speaker 1: sign to me. So I could have seen him making

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Speaker 1: this change, and he's gonna make this change because these

862
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:01,760
Speaker 1: things are not going to go away against different opponents.

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Speaker 1: This is going to be a consistent issue. Malik Neighbors

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Speaker 1: bailed him out a lot in that game, and I

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Speaker 1: think over the course of the next month, if not sooner,

866
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:11,799
Speaker 1: Brian Dabel's patience is going to run out, just not

867
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:12,319
Speaker 1: this week.

868
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:17,319
Speaker 3: You mentioning that got me thinking, I thought you were

869
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:20,879
Speaker 3: maybe going to go conspiracy theory here. The Giants are

870
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:26,239
Speaker 3: an organization where ownership has gotten involved with quarterback decisions

871
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 3: in the past, famously making Ben McAdoo bench Gino Smith

872
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 3: for Eli Manning. We've seen how their you know, influence,

873
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 3: I guess in the Saquon Barkley situation was more or

874
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 3: less ignored. But we've heard whispers that Daniel Jones was

875
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:49,799
Speaker 3: essentially given that big contract because ownership believed in him

876
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 3: and wanted him so much, when maybe the front office

877
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 3: and especially the coaching staff had mixed feelings about him.

878
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 3: And that's given them, in a sense, a longer leash,

879
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 3: Like they know in that building that Daniel Jones wasn't

880
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:08,759
Speaker 3: really all on the decision makers there, and ultimately it's

881
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 3: all going to be about Jackson Dark. But you just

882
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:13,320
Speaker 3: never know who's getting involved, whether it's the general manager

883
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 3: or ownership. These are decisions that are bigger than just

884
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:20,360
Speaker 3: the head coach, especially I think in New York, and

885
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 3: I don't think Russell Wilson played well at all, but

886
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 3: they might feel like, for whatever reason, it'd be unfair

887
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 3: to bench now that Dark has another week or two,

888
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 3: whatever it is, and so Russell Wilson will get at

889
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 3: least one more chance, and we'll see who do they

890
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 3: have on the schedule this week. I should know this.

891
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:42,360
Speaker 3: I'm putting on the spot.

892
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:44,400
Speaker 1: Well, Luckily I have Jesus in front of me. So

893
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 1: they're playing the Cowboys in Dallas.

894
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 3: Oh, that's a spicy second. I don't think it's a

895
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 3: bad matchup to have to have.

896
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:55,879
Speaker 1: If it's a disastrous game, I think because I think

897
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:58,759
Speaker 1: that public perception plays a factor in them sticking with

898
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, especially if ownership wants him to stick with

899
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:03,839
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson. Brian Ables coaching for his job. He does

900
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 1: not have total patience to let it play out like

901
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin did last year with Russell Wilson. I'm sure

902
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 1: he wants to make that change, and if ownership is involved,

903
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 1: it's a perception thing. We can't look like a chaotic

904
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:15,799
Speaker 1: organization after one week. We have to stick with them

905
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 1: for another week. But if they go to Dallas and

906
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:19,360
Speaker 1: get smoked and Russell Wilson's terrible, that change is going

907
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:19,800
Speaker 1: to happen.

908
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:22,760
Speaker 3: Fair. I should have mentioned, by the way, with San Francisco,

909
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 3: if perty does not play this week, they are in

910
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:29,240
Speaker 3: New Orleans. So if you were ever on the fence

911
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 3: to play or sit him for one week, sit in

912
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 3: New Orleans and then they're home for the Cardinals and

913
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 3: the Jaguars, who I think are competitive, fun maybe even

914
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 3: playoff teams if everything breaks right. But it is one

915
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:46,239
Speaker 3: of the softer portions of a pretty soft forty nine

916
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:48,320
Speaker 3: ers schedule, So I guess if this was going to happen,

917
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:52,879
Speaker 3: it happened at a pretty good point. Just some other

918
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 3: real quick items of news as we wind down here.

919
00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:00,160
Speaker 3: Nick Ammon Warri is a candidate for injured reserve for

920
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:05,319
Speaker 3: the Seahawks. Tarvarius Ward, who had a good first game

921
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 3: for the Colts in concussion protocol, the Panthers defensive tackle

922
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:10,360
Speaker 3: they picked up to Shawn Wharton is out two to

923
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 3: four weeks. Any of those stand out to you as

924
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:19,280
Speaker 3: particularly important? Shook em and worry happened about four plays

925
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 3: into that Seahawks game.

926
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a big bummer for them, and I

927
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:24,320
Speaker 1: think he would have made a difference, especially in the

928
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 1: way that this game unfolded with pretty leading them down

929
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 1: the field and throwing that touchdown pass, especially with the

930
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:31,279
Speaker 1: game that Rik Woollen had. The help over the top

931
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 1: from a safety, with the athleticism that even Warri brings

932
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:36,800
Speaker 1: to the field would have been a pretty big boost

933
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 1: for them. So that one probably sticks out to me

934
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 1: the most Scharvarius Ward, veteran cornerback concussion protocol. You hope

935
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 1: that's a pretty quick turn for him. Panthers. I mean

936
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 1: they need every they need their bodies, They need everybody

937
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 1: available right now to bounce back after the game that

938
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:53,959
Speaker 1: they just had. So but yeah, I think that Emon

939
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 1: Warri is probably the one that sticks out the most.

940
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 1: I'm also looking through the players right now because watching

941
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:00,880
Speaker 1: the game back, it was DeMarcus Lawrence. Oh my god,

942
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:02,919
Speaker 1: he had a few plays there where I'm like, who

943
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 1: is zero Lawrenson? A zero all over the field like

944
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:09,240
Speaker 1: he would.

945
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 3: He's one of those players I should I if I

946
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 3: still wrote, maybe we'll make it into a podcast. It'd

947
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:16,360
Speaker 3: be a good offseason podcast. It's not the Hall of

948
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:20,319
Speaker 3: very Good, but I just think it's like great, like

949
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 3: all time great players that I have like no chance

950
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:25,839
Speaker 3: for the Hall of Fame, Like DeMarcus Lawrence is one

951
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 3: of my all time favorite players. That it's not at

952
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 3: that level, but he's just He's just a dude. A

953
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:34,360
Speaker 3: couple other little items I'll just run through. Julian Blackman,

954
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 3: who is a starting safety for the Saints, could be

955
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:40,400
Speaker 3: out for the season. Denzel Perryman for the Chargers or

956
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 3: Linebacker out two to four weeks, Texansight and Cook keid

957
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:46,879
Speaker 3: Stover out a few weeks, and Kendrick Bourne signed with

958
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 3: the San Francisco forty nine Ers. That was Kickoff Week

959
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962
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Speaker 3: is on your side. Just a couple other quick things here.

963
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 3: TMZ reported that Tyreek Hill, his estranged wife Keita Vaccaro,

964
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 3: has accused him of abuse on filings related to their divorce,

965
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:21,440
Speaker 3: and she accused in this report which was from TMZ,

966
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 3: but had the documents reported that he had an argument

967
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:27,879
Speaker 3: that escalated to physical violence last week. There were eight

968
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 3: different times that that happened, according to the allegations, including

969
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:35,800
Speaker 3: punching her in the stomach while she was pregnant. Also

970
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 3: alleged to punch in the face and choked. He does

971
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:45,360
Speaker 3: not face criminal charges, but Tyreek Hill has a history

972
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 3: going back to college and in the NFL for abuse incidents,

973
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 3: and the NFL has a wide berth of what they

974
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 3: want to look at that could go under the Personal

975
00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:00,919
Speaker 3: Conduct Policy so that is something just to keep an

976
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 3: eye on. I didn't want to end the show on

977
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 3: that news, but I did think it was, you know,

978
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 3: good for people to know. So I do want to

979
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 3: ask you something. Putting you on the spot shook. You know,

980
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:12,279
Speaker 3: we got you on all these primetime games. This is it.

981
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:15,319
Speaker 3: You know, we're going to be back on Thursday night.

982
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:18,240
Speaker 3: We got a double header and that's pretty exciting.

983
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:18,879
Speaker 1: Welcome back.

984
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 3: They're actually good games. I I'm gonna put you on

985
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 3: the spot because you're not in like the Tuesday Wednesday

986
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 3: shows where we kind of take a step back and

987
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:30,759
Speaker 3: do some analysis like that. Give me one team or

988
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 3: player that after one week changed your mind that you

989
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:37,439
Speaker 3: feel a little differently about after one week.

990
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:39,719
Speaker 1: Okay, it's not a primetime game, despite me being on

991
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:40,720
Speaker 1: all the primetime shows.

992
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:41,720
Speaker 3: It should be anything.

993
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not a player, and it's not a team.

994
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 1: It's a it's a position group. It is the Colts

995
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:53,840
Speaker 1: offensive line. We spent so much time this offseason lamenting

996
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:58,279
Speaker 1: how they mismanaged the you know, depending free agents that

997
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:00,879
Speaker 1: ended up going elsewhere and how it was gonna set

998
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 1: them back offensively. And you're gonna put Daniel Jones behind

999
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:05,279
Speaker 1: an offensive line that's not gonna be as strong as

1000
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 1: it was last year, and it already wasn't very strong.

1001
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 1: They held up pretty damn well Week one against the

1002
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 1: against the Dolphins, that Dolphins front that we know they've

1003
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 1: invested heavily in, that was ready to pin their ears

1004
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 1: back and get after Daniel Jones wasn't really able to

1005
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:20,400
Speaker 1: do it, we know the day that he had. But

1006
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:23,800
Speaker 1: running that game back today, I was just very impressed

1007
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 1: by how stout they were up front, and so they

1008
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 1: changed my mind in just one week. We'll see if

1009
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:29,360
Speaker 1: it holds up over the course of the season, but

1010
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 1: in one week I was very impressed by them.

1011
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 3: Of course we're gonna end the show. It's like, oh yeah,

1012
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 3: it's a big time ratings grab. We're just gonna go

1013
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 3: for the easy like low hanging fruit, cowboy sock shook

1014
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 3: goes Colts offensive line. If my over under Win Totals

1015
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 3: podcast with Nick Wright that we put up a couple

1016
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 3: of weeks ago where I'm trying to keep my undefeated

1017
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:54,879
Speaker 3: record of the last three years going. Well, First of all,

1018
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 3: we did eight picks this year, so I'm not staying undefeated,

1019
00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 3: but some of them after one week I already have

1020
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:02,799
Speaker 3: regret about the Colts might be on top of that

1021
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:05,799
Speaker 3: list under seven and a half. I don't think Daniel

1022
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:09,239
Speaker 3: Jones is gonna play like this all year, man that

1023
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 3: they have some winnable games on the schedule. There are

1024
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 3: actually some really talented players on that roster. And one

1025
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 3: thing Shane Stikeen's gonna do. He's gonna like win eight

1026
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 3: or nine games. You know, that's all I got to do.

1027
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:24,359
Speaker 1: That's true, That is true. I will say I Dale

1028
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 1: Jones had a great game. I'm not going to take

1029
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 1: that away from him. He also had some turnover worthy

1030
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:28,880
Speaker 1: throws that weren't picked.

1031
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 3: So he also took two massive hits during the game.

1032
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:34,400
Speaker 3: So yeah, we could be right back to Anthony richardson

1033
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 3: land if it goes wrong. Shook appreciate you. This will

1034
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 3: be the only time I think we go Thursday, Friday, Monday.

1035
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Speaker 3: So we appreciate everyone who joined us on the YouTube

1036
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 3: live stream. We appreciate everyone who has made this first

1037
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:54,399
Speaker 3: full week of the NFL Daily Schedule a treat and

1038
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:57,359
Speaker 3: a success, and we love how that the numbers are

1039
00:49:57,400 --> 00:49:59,439
Speaker 3: growing and all the feedback that you guys have given

1040
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:02,359
Speaker 3: to We're looking forward to a good week. I will

1041
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 3: be back in the studio on Tuesday with George and Rodrigue.

1042
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 3: I mentioned good omens, bad omens. We'll get into the

1043
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:16,239
Speaker 3: news Monday. Man, these comebacks. If it stays this good

1044
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 3: all year, like this might be the highest rated YouTube

1045
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Speaker 3: live show there is. We'll see it Tuesday