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Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, radio News. I'm Matt Miller and

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Speaker 1: I'm Hannah Elliott, and this is Hot Pursuit.

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Speaker 2: All right, we have an amazing guest to sort of

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Speaker 2: explain how this podcast works. A lot of times we

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Speaker 2: do the interview first and then we do this intro.

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Speaker 2: So Hannah and I have already spoken with Chris.

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Speaker 3: Chris Body, Grammy winning trumpeter.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and I think he's had like four of his

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Speaker 2: albums debuted at number one on the Billboards. He's a

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Speaker 2: jazz musician, but he is a fanatic in terms of

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Speaker 2: racing cars or driving cars on the track.

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Speaker 3: He's like he's heavy into it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he got full bore into it, like no holds barre,

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Speaker 2: just headfirst. And by the way, so I was thinking,

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Speaker 2: I'd love to have our listeners email us. When we

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Speaker 2: get into the interview, you'll hear Chris talk about the

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Speaker 2: sound of engines. And I always have thought about being

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Speaker 2: able to tell the difference between, you know, a V

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Speaker 2: twin motorcycle or in line four a car in cars

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Speaker 2: of flat six, you know a V eight, And I

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Speaker 2: would love for people to email us and tell us

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Speaker 2: which engines they like the best. In terms of you know,

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Speaker 2: sonic pleasure. Don't you think that's an interesting.

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Speaker 1: Tell us your sonic pleasure fantasies?

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Speaker 2: What is your hot pursuit at Bloomberg dot net. So

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Speaker 2: what is your favorite motor sound? I don't know if

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Speaker 2: anyone everyone has one favorite because I appreciate a wide

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Speaker 2: variety of motors.

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Speaker 1: But you know, I'll be totally forthcoming and say the

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Speaker 1: engine sound is something that I notice. But I'm also

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Speaker 1: not the type to not turn on a radio when

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Speaker 1: I'm in a car, like yeah, I think Chris Chris

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Speaker 1: understandably when he's in his cars, he listens to the

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Speaker 1: music of the engine. Note I am not that civilized

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Speaker 1: or cultivated, and I will turn up the radio full

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Speaker 1: of blasts so well and to notice I do notice it,

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Speaker 1: but then I move on.

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Speaker 2: I mean, for me, it's it's a huge discussion on

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Speaker 2: some cars, like they sound great from the outside and

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Speaker 2: they don't. My Challenger doesn't sound very good on the inside.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of drone. Some cars sound great on

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Speaker 2: the inside or fake sound is pumped in. That's nice

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Speaker 2: and you can't hear anything on the outside.

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Speaker 3: That's not good.

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Speaker 2: But some cars, you know, like my nine to eleven

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Speaker 2: would sound great in the high rev range, and it

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Speaker 2: wasn't much in the low revs. So there's such a

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Speaker 2: different kind of I love a Harley with straight pipes

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Speaker 2: on it, but I also like, you know, uh inline

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Speaker 1: I have to say, what I thought was really cool

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Speaker 1: that Chris brought up is that somehow learning to play

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Speaker 1: the trumpet is actually very similar to learning how to

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Speaker 1: drive on the track. That is something I've never thought

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Speaker 1: about and would have no idea about, and he kind

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Speaker 1: of laid it out for us.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, very coy about why they're similar. Before we get

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Speaker 2: to that. When I joined the Zoom call, you guys

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Speaker 2: were talking about your experience in the new Ferrari, and

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Speaker 2: I want to hear all that I can about that. Okay,

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Speaker 2: So the jarting with what it's called.

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Speaker 1: It's called the Ferrari Dodichi chillandry, and that's Italian for

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Speaker 1: twelve cylinder. So when you say you're driving the twelve

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Speaker 1: that one.

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Speaker 2: It's the twelve cylinder.

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Speaker 3: It's the twelve cylinder Dodici chillandry.

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Speaker 1: Is. I made them say it to me like fifteen

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Speaker 3: That's an approximation.

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Speaker 2: By the way, they have a tendency to do like

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Speaker 2: redundant naming strategies. Right, fer Ferrari and now for the

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Speaker 2: twelve cylinder Ferrari.

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Speaker 1: Twelve cil Like an inside joke the Italians have. They

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Speaker 1: just think it's hilarious to try to make American consumers

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Speaker 1: speak Italian. I think it's a big inside joke, and

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Speaker 2: Ducati has the Desmo Sudici, which I.

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Speaker 3: Was I can't even say that. But back to the car.

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Speaker 1: I really liked it, and again I can't talk about

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Speaker 3: But I love how it looks.

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Speaker 1: And I've seen some very mixed responses on my social

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Speaker 1: media posts about it, understandably because I don't think it

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Speaker 2: The top of my favorite.

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Speaker 3: I mean great cars, great cars. I love it.

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Speaker 1: It follows the design language that started with the Roma,

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Speaker 1: the type of car that when you look at it,

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Speaker 1: vehicles from other automakers that you're like, now, which.

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Speaker 3: One is that?

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Speaker 1: Again, I can't really tell about right or which McLaren

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Speaker 2: This Ferrari I think is one of the most beautiful car,

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Speaker 2: the ugly seventies gold that they.

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Speaker 3: Had correct period correct color.

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Speaker 1: It's it's a Guyo Monte mont Gyo. Oh, I gotta,

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Speaker 1: I gotta, I gotta look it's like Gyo Montenegro.

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Speaker 2: Now I have to know now you look it up.

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Speaker 2: But I'll just tell you that Don Johnson would never

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Speaker 2: have driven that color car in Miami Vice. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Look, it's not my first choice, but I don't think

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Speaker 1: it's quite as it's Gyo Monte Carlo.

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Speaker 3: There a period correct color.

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Speaker 1: It looks. It's not the worst I've seen. I'll tell

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Speaker 3: But I would like to see it in more of

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Speaker 1: Gray or something.

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Speaker 1: No red, where no for a Ferrari expected so cliche,

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Speaker 2: Well black in that case, that's what color.

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Speaker 3: Black would be very.

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Speaker 2: The Miami Vice Daytona was black, right, you know.

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Speaker 1: I take my cues from whenever there's a decent Ferrari

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Speaker 1: that aren't red are always worth more.

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Speaker 2: True, But it just looks it's such an elegant vehicle

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Speaker 2: that the gold one looked not elegant because it then

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Speaker 2: it looked like machined parts were on the bumper and

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Speaker 1: I will tell you this that the seats were sort

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Speaker 1: of a mossy green, which when I first saw this

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Speaker 1: I describe it, it sounds like it would be horrible.

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Speaker 2: Now, sounds like dog diarrhea.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. In real life though, I actually think maybe this

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Speaker 1: one of those cool cars we see from the seventies

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Speaker 1: that are sort of specked. It's crazy, But then you realized, no,

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Speaker 3: Ahead of their time and genius.

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Speaker 1: So I'm withholding my judgment on the green and yellow

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Speaker 1: combo okay for the car, because it might be genius.

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Speaker 2: I guess, would you wear the Ferrari inspired fashion that

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Speaker 2: you were No, No, you're showing us out of Miami,

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Speaker 2: because that was equally bad.

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Speaker 1: I bet you I could find a piece in that

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Speaker 1: collection that I would wear, mixed in with other brands.

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Speaker 1: The problem that I find with people who purchase automotive

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Speaker 3: They wear all of it?

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Speaker 1: Yes, and that is definitely a bad idea. You know,

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Speaker 3: No one.

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Speaker 2: And that's not a typical Ferrari buyer's mistake. It's more

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Speaker 2: of a I would say a Lamborghini buyer is more

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Speaker 2: which is why I bring it up six hundred and

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Speaker 2: four one thousand dollars. We've already talked about it. Obviously

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Speaker 2: you drove it on your trip to Monterey, but big fan,

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Speaker 2: I really want to drive the In fact, I think

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Speaker 2: I would rather have this than the Ferrari if it

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Speaker 2: weren't as an investment, because you know, the Ferrari is

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Speaker 2: going to appreciate, And why don't.

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Speaker 3: You think the Revelta would appreciate.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure it will. Actually I think it will

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Speaker 2: from now. But you don't know what's gonna happen in

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Speaker 2: the market. Craft If Bitcoin drops, you know, to fifteen

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Speaker 1: But it sounds like your real gut, like your heart

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Speaker 1: might be with the Lamborghini.

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Speaker 2: It is. My heart is with Lamborghini.

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Speaker 3: But I have these are our confessions I have.

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Speaker 2: Well, also, I know a lot of people who work

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Speaker 2: at Lamborghini. I've spent a lot of time driving Lamborghini's.

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Speaker 2: I've done track days in Lamborghini's. I haven't got that

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Speaker 3: But some people like that, which.

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Speaker 2: Lamborghini welcomes you in with open arms.

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Speaker 3: Look.

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Speaker 1: I specifically asked Ferrari on this on this trip, if

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Speaker 1: I win the lottery tomorrow, will I be able to

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Speaker 1: purchase one of these twelve cylinder machines that you are making.

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Speaker 1: And the answer is yes, anyone can buy one. It's

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Speaker 1: but it's not limited. It's not gonna be one of

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Speaker 1: those things where you have to buy ten other Ferraris

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Speaker 1: to buy this one as well.

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Speaker 3: It's unlimited.

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Speaker 1: If you have the money, you can put the money

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Speaker 1: down and get on the list and just wait for

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Speaker 1: a few months or more.

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Speaker 2: I would I will tell you I would rather have

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Speaker 2: a singer. I went down town.

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Speaker 3: Don't no, don't say.

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Speaker 2: That I went down say that.

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Speaker 3: Yes, haven't driven one yet, that's true, that's true. You really,

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Speaker 3: I'm I'm going to stop you.

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Speaker 2: Well, okay, you can't fair fair before I drive one.

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Speaker 2: I shouldn't make that. But I'll tell you it looked

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Speaker 2: so beautiful and it's so small compared to a modern

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Speaker 2: nine to eleven. Now, I guess it's true of any

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Speaker 2: nine six four or you know previous. But I sat

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Speaker 2: no long one.

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Speaker 1: That's every nine to eleven. That's that's called an eleven.

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Speaker 2: It's not dicads like to the Singer short shift gear.

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Speaker 3: For far cheaper than a million dollars.

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Speaker 2: It looked so that note that.

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Speaker 1: Car is twice the price of the of this beautiful Ferrari.

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Speaker 2: But it's also something that I don't think would depreciate, right.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm gonna wait three years to get the Singer,

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Speaker 1: I'm fascinated by you because, of course, you know, I

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Speaker 3: Cars right now? And how did that happen? How did

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Speaker 4: So the craziest thing is is that this has only

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Speaker 4: the exact same manner that everyone does. And it was

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Speaker 4: that sold me my Porsche GT Turbo, have you ever

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Speaker 4: I said, I'm there tomorrow. So I swapped out my

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Speaker 4: friend and he said, I said, you know, this is

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Speaker 4: you might try this club called Thermal and I said, humph, Thermal,

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Speaker 2: England, amazing, dude, that is insane. I have never heard

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Speaker 4: Well? I think initially it was the combination of the

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Speaker 4: I just boy, it's just like a dopamine dump that

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Speaker 4: So when you have someone like Patrick Liddy, who's like

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Speaker 4: I mean, we'd be in a ten hour bus ride

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Speaker 4: And they're so very, very similar because the detail, the

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Speaker 1: You know, it's so interesting, Chris to hear you talk

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Speaker 1: he is in the middle of all of this? And

439
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Speaker 1: I'm curious, was there anything you had to unlearn that

440
00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:31,639
Speaker 1: in your driving that Patrick is telling you, you're you

441
00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:35,160
Speaker 1: need to unlearn this behavior because it's actually not serving

442
00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:36,359
Speaker 1: you when you're driving.

443
00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:41,560
Speaker 4: Yeah. So, so my daily practice since I'm seven. You know,

444
00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:44,760
Speaker 4: on trumpet, you spend the first forty five minutes of

445
00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:47,600
Speaker 4: your practice session and if I practice, say four hours

446
00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:51,760
Speaker 4: in a day. Uh, you know, it's like a long, steady,

447
00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:56,560
Speaker 4: long tones getting the air moving to and it's to

448
00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:58,679
Speaker 4: get And I guess the most difficult thing is to

449
00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:03,080
Speaker 4: learn how breaking is such a vital part and how

450
00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:07,359
Speaker 4: you trail break and then you you have to release

451
00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:09,600
Speaker 4: the throat and squeeze back, you know, all of that

452
00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:12,040
Speaker 4: where instead of instead of going to Patrick, I got

453
00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,359
Speaker 4: this the way you do in the trumpet, you have

454
00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:16,680
Speaker 4: to you have to back up and be that seven

455
00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,200
Speaker 4: year old kid playing the trumpet again with the long

456
00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:22,880
Speaker 4: tones and Patrick reeg hold on a second, Chris, Now

457
00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:26,080
Speaker 4: let's go smooth as fast. So let's do a few

458
00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:29,680
Speaker 4: things and follow this line smoothly. Don't say I got

459
00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,760
Speaker 4: this because you don't got it, you know, and that

460
00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:36,879
Speaker 4: so so we begin again. It's that sort of thing, uh,

461
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,320
Speaker 4: that you learn all the time. And all the guys

462
00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:43,359
Speaker 4: down at Thermal that are really excellent drivers, you know,

463
00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:45,439
Speaker 4: they're just like saying, do whatever you want to do,

464
00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:47,480
Speaker 4: but don't ever walk out on the track and say

465
00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:49,359
Speaker 4: I got this. Go out on the track. Always with

466
00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:52,600
Speaker 4: a coach for the first few months, you know, make

467
00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:55,199
Speaker 4: sure you have. If you're racing, you're out driving on

468
00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:58,080
Speaker 4: the track three or four days, make sure three of

469
00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:01,639
Speaker 4: them are with Patrick, and okay, cool. I've just listened

470
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:04,720
Speaker 4: and took, you know, and tried to take my cues

471
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,560
Speaker 4: from that and it and it's like learning trumpet all

472
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,960
Speaker 4: over again, but at least it's something bright and shiny

473
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,720
Speaker 4: in my mind, and I just the sounds are epic.

474
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:17,080
Speaker 4: And I live right on the straightaway of Thermal, so

475
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,919
Speaker 4: you know you're you're woken every morning. Well I'm up anyhow,

476
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,919
Speaker 4: but I mean after I race, if I go up

477
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,000
Speaker 4: to my place and I'm practicing trumpet and I hear

478
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,720
Speaker 4: those you know, a cup car swooshing buy or whatever,

479
00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:32,840
Speaker 4: it's music to me to hear the way that that,

480
00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,520
Speaker 4: you know, the car drifts off into the distance, because

481
00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:38,639
Speaker 4: it's not like you're watching a NASCAR at Thermal. You know,

482
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,200
Speaker 4: there's there's one or two cars on the track at once,

483
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,680
Speaker 4: you know, so it's got this lilt to it's got

484
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,280
Speaker 4: this it's almost, you know, like an art piece with

485
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:47,800
Speaker 4: noise out in front of your window.

486
00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,200
Speaker 2: So so cool, Chris, can you explain a lot of

487
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:53,239
Speaker 2: people don't know what Thermal is and don't know how

488
00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:56,040
Speaker 2: it's set up. Obviously it's a track and I guess

489
00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:58,840
Speaker 2: you can somehow sleep there. Do you have a condo there?

490
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,399
Speaker 2: Do you have a garager? You keep explain, explain to

491
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:03,720
Speaker 2: everybody what it is because we hear about it so much,

492
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 2: and I've never had anyone actually sit down and tell

493
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,359
Speaker 2: me exactly, like what the layout is like is the

494
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:09,960
Speaker 2: club you join? Like, what's the story with that?

495
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 4: Right, it's a non advertised like they don't it's all

496
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 4: word of mouth. Now Indy does a race there. It's

497
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:21,560
Speaker 4: home of Lamborghini. BMW has their BMW Experience Track. It's

498
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 4: a property located about fifteen miles south or east somewhere

499
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:30,719
Speaker 4: close to Palm Springs, California, And it's the only club

500
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:35,880
Speaker 4: that's currently open in the world that it's a member's

501
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:40,080
Speaker 4: only racetrack. It would be like the high end equivalent

502
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:43,960
Speaker 4: of a golf club, which there are many in Palm Springs,

503
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,160
Speaker 4: but it's a big thank you, no thank you to golf.

504
00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:51,719
Speaker 4: And it's just about racing cars. And so you have

505
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:55,400
Speaker 4: to own All the condos are situated around this five

506
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,400
Speaker 4: mile track and they can be broken up into three

507
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:04,639
Speaker 4: different formations, and so you have to have you have

508
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 4: to buy a condo and they're all right on the

509
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:11,360
Speaker 4: track for the most part. And you buy in there

510
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:15,119
Speaker 4: and then you you buy into so there's a clubhouse

511
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:17,720
Speaker 4: in swimming pool and a gym and a little hotel

512
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 4: and it's wonderful and and so all the people are

513
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:27,200
Speaker 4: complete crazy about cars and uh and and then yeah,

514
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 4: it's just and I think there's one outside of Nashville

515
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:32,720
Speaker 4: that's going to come up in the next year called

516
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 4: flat Rock Motorsports, and so that's going to be the

517
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,920
Speaker 4: next one. But I don't think in the world there's

518
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 4: a dedicated like you know, there's no track days they

519
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:46,679
Speaker 4: have open you they'll invite you to something, but you

520
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 4: just can't show up at Thermal. It's a private it's

521
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 4: a private racetrack. So hence most of the time, like

522
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 4: I'm never if I'm on the track for three or

523
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,840
Speaker 4: four hours, I mean hardly ever do I even encounter

524
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 4: anyone else, you know. I mean I'm like, I'm certainly

525
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 4: getting passed by, you know, a Porsa cup car like,

526
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 4: but it's not like I'm you know, battling like I'm

527
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 4: at lagun a Seka, you know, trying to like figure

528
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:12,920
Speaker 4: out what I'm doing. And then there's a pit crew

529
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 4: that's there for everyone, so you just you just it's

530
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,920
Speaker 4: an amazing experience because you just text and say could

531
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 4: you bring my GT pour rs or my GT three

532
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,200
Speaker 4: rs down to the track, and they're like, no problem,

533
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,400
Speaker 4: and it's down there and the fluids and the brake

534
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 4: pads and everything are all sorted and the minute your

535
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 4: tires are out there go We're replacing your tires, mister body.

536
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 4: And I'm like, okay, you know, and and and it's

537
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,679
Speaker 4: so it's very you know, it's very white gloved in

538
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 4: that way. Because if I went to lagun A Seka

539
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,439
Speaker 4: by myself, I wouldn't have a clue what to do. So,

540
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 4: you know, that's a whole nother thing I have to

541
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:45,639
Speaker 4: learn about.

542
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,680
Speaker 2: But is everybody Is everybody good enough that you are

543
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 2: always feeling safe? I mean, do they demand that you

544
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 2: have some kind of you know, skill or uh instruction

545
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 2: in order to be on the track.

546
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 4: Well, so I would I would say I began at

547
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 4: Thermal as the janitor. But you know, I mean that

548
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 4: in all the best possible way. I was the novice

549
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:12,399
Speaker 4: and I was horrible. But they begin you, you know,

550
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,159
Speaker 4: they begin you out by taking you out, you know,

551
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 4: in lead follows and then with coaches, and then I

552
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:23,880
Speaker 4: was very dedicated. There are monster drivers there, I mean,

553
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:26,439
Speaker 4: you know, given the age group and stuff like that,

554
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:28,919
Speaker 4: you know, but they're all, you know, they're all really

555
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:32,919
Speaker 4: big car junkies. They have cup cars. There's you know,

556
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 4: most of the cars at thermal are GT three, r

557
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 4: s's and uh, you know, cup cars, BMW race cars,

558
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 4: and then people have all the exotics and the Ferraris

559
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 4: and all that stuff there and they're they're excellent drivers.

560
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 4: There are a ton of people there that are in

561
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 4: the Ferrari Challenge. Ferrari has its own pit crew there.

562
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 4: Simone from Ferrari takes care of all the Ferrari Challenge customers.

563
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 4: The True Speed is located there. They take care of

564
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 4: all the cup cars. So anyone that has the cup

565
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 4: car they bring down. It's all toom like by they

566
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 4: put them up on the jacks and check everything out.

567
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,959
Speaker 4: And I'm still in the you know, in the street

568
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 4: car category. But they're all excellent drivers and they're all happy,

569
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 4: more than happy to share. That's one of the things.

570
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 4: The community is so fantastic. They're more than happy to share. Hey, Chris,

571
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 4: I was coming up next to you, you know, like

572
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,720
Speaker 4: I could see you were a little nervous. Just stay

573
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 4: your line. My job in the cup car is to

574
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 4: overtake you, don't freak out, you know. That was the

575
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 4: first thing I learned that. That was the first one. Yeah,

576
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 4: you know, And so now now on my track. Thanks

577
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 4: to Patrick. You know, I've knocked my lap times down

578
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 4: from you know, horrible to like thirty, you know, thirty

579
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 4: seconds off and I'm in there. So it's good. You know,

580
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 4: I feel quite confident.

581
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 1: I'm really struck, Chris by the fact that you are,

582
00:29:56,280 --> 00:30:00,160
Speaker 1: you know, very accomplished in your professional life. You're and

583
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 1: you're also you know, over sixty, and here you are

584
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 1: being completely open to learning a completely new thing and

585
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 1: to starting out at the at the lowest rung rung

586
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 1: again in a completely new discipline. And I do think

587
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 1: that's pretty unusual. So where does.

588
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 3: That openness and attitude come from.

589
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 4: Uh well, I'm always I'm always into people that do things,

590
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 4: whatever their craft is, whether it's like hanging out with

591
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 4: particular yoga folks or or the driving like someone like Patrick.

592
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 4: I'm always into people that have achieved something at a

593
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 4: super super high level. If I could be an observer

594
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 4: of that or I to do that. At one point

595
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 4: in my life, I was deep, deep into chess. But man,

596
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 4: that is so you know, that's a that's a that's

597
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 4: a that's something that torments you, kind of like race

598
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 4: car driving a little bit torments you, you know, But uh,

599
00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 4: I love people that are dead dedicated and take no

600
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 4: prisoners when it comes time to learning a craft. And

601
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 4: I can sit there admire someone like Patrick driving so

602
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 4: incredible and go wow, I'm sitting in the seat and

603
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 4: he's rocking this four eight eight challenge and it's it's

604
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 4: so musical. The way he's driving, it's just effortless. And

605
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 4: the way he is able to like explain it to me,

606
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 4: you know, to be able to sit and get a

607
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 4: little bird's eye view of that is a really really

608
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 4: I feel very super fortunate. I don't have a family.

609
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 4: I don't have kids in college or or you know,

610
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 4: and so I kind of seeing I'm being a kid

611
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 4: again sort of, you know, I'm a I feel like

612
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 4: I'm a kid band, you know, band learning how to

613
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 4: play the trumpet and watching the experts and going wow,

614
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 4: that would be cool to do. Now. I know I'm

615
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 4: never going to be a race car driver or anything

616
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 4: like that, but and I don't necessarily think I would ever.

617
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 4: Like my friends are all doing there next year, you

618
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 4: need to do the Ferrari Challenge. Well, I'm like, well,

619
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 4: first news flash, I never have a weekend off, so

620
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 4: that'll never happen. And I don't know if I ever

621
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 4: want to necessarily be up, you know, like we'm being

622
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 4: and doing all. Yeah, well, I don't know, like you know,

623
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 4: I care about my hands and my chops and stuff

624
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 4: like that. I just love what it does to my brain,

625
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 4: the meditative stuff and learning, and when you hit that

626
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 4: apex and the times get better, it's it's a thrilling thing.

627
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 4: And then the sound of the engine, and then you know,

628
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 4: you get into stuff like, oh, then there's the actual

629
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 4: make of cars and the cars that you really want

630
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 4: to whether it's McLaren or a Ferrari or a Lamborghini

631
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 4: or something, and then that's a whole nother drug.

632
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 3: I want to ask you about that.

633
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 1: Really cool because I know you've got a certain Lamborghini

634
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 1: on order. I've seen you drive of McLaren. We know

635
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 1: you have some Porschos. Can you talk to us about

636
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 1: the difference in tone and sound and how between those cars,

637
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 1: what each of those brings you? What do you hear

638
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 1: in between those different vehicles.

639
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, the internet, you know, is a pretty powerful

640
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 4: persuasive tool. But I got my GT four RS and

641
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:15,479
Speaker 4: it was awesome, and so that's my main kind of

642
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 4: track thing. And then I saw Matt Farrah video where

643
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 4: he had a and then I went out and I

644
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 4: bought a GT four because I wanted a manual, you know,

645
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 4: because you know, you can't be engaged fully unless my son,

646
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 4: unless you have a manual. So so I went out

647
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 4: and I bought a manual GT four and I saw

648
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 4: Matt Farrah video where he sent his car at a

649
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 4: rick Demand at Demand Motorsports back in Nayak, New York,

650
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 4: and they put a four point five five hundred and

651
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 4: fifty at the wheel five hundred and something torque into

652
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 4: that GT four and it is a monster. I mean,

653
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 4: it is crazy. The torque is just insane. So that

654
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 4: the tone went from the GT four rscreaming up here

655
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 4: like to this kind of battleship, you know, muscle car Porsche.

656
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,839
Speaker 4: And that was really that. That was really really cool,

657
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 4: the rick Demand engine saying that's I'm going to keep

658
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 4: that car forever. It's awesome. Then I got the the

659
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 4: new nine ninety two GT three RS, which I haven't

660
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 4: driven that much, and and my my coaches are all

661
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 4: kind of like, Chris, you got to keep learning, don't

662
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 4: do what guys do and put slicks on your GT

663
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 4: three RS. Yet wait another year, get more, get more

664
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:34,479
Speaker 4: groove and on the GT four RS and confident, don't

665
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 4: use a cheat code yet, because that is a cheat code.

666
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 4: The GT three RS with slicks on the track you

667
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 4: can okay, so you're better, but you're getting too many aids.

668
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 4: Learn how to drive better, and so that car is

669
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 4: going to be candy for a while. And then I

670
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 4: got kind of hooked and crazed into McLaren's. So I

671
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,880
Speaker 4: have just took possession of a new seven fifty s.

672
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:56,719
Speaker 4: I had a seven to twenty s. So I got

673
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 4: a seven to fifty s.

674
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 3: And then I think, yes, yeah, the green beautiful.

675
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:06,439
Speaker 4: And then then the drug that's to be delivered, which

676
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 4: I think I'm getting one of, if not the last

677
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 4: Lambeau STO and Patrick took me out on a hot

678
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 4: lap in an STO, and the theater of it just whoa.

679
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,319
Speaker 4: I mean since that thing, that original thing with the

680
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 4: GT four or S, I haven't felt like that kind

681
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 4: of theater without being in a race car. When he

682
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:30,399
Speaker 4: took me in the four a Day Challenge, yeah, well

683
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 4: that's incredible, But I'm not ready to suit up and

684
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:36,800
Speaker 4: do a race car yet. So so so the STO

685
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,359
Speaker 4: is coming in about a month and a half, and

686
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 4: so I'm excited for that.

687
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:45,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's I mean, when we ask exotic car company

688
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 2: executives to give us a list of the cars that

689
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:50,319
Speaker 2: they would like to have in their garage, they list

690
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:56,239
Speaker 2: inevitably the STO, which I haven't personally driven yet, but

691
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 2: that's one to drool over for sure, do you.

692
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 4: It's just so it's so beautiful. I mean I think that.

693
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 4: I mean, it's bonkers crazy, but it looks so exotic

694
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 4: and I just love it. And I got to drive one. Obviously.

695
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 4: Patrick drove me first. He drove me back to back.

696
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,280
Speaker 4: He drove me in the GT three RS on the track,

697
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:19,280
Speaker 4: and then we went hop right into the brand new STO.

698
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 4: And I mean, I'm not sure even which one is faster,

699
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 4: but the sensation that the theater of, like you know,

700
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 4: turning it on and just having the Italian supermodel screen

701
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:33,240
Speaker 4: at you was really cool.

702
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, if you so, you've had your flat

703
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 2: sixes and then V eights and that's V ten. So

704
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 2: is there a difference do you notice in sound that

705
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 2: you prefer one or the other. When I was a kid,

706
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:52,800
Speaker 2: I had this CD of various engine you know, setups,

707
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,799
Speaker 2: and I would always try and be able to recognize,

708
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 2: you know, a V twelve versus an inline six, and

709
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,880
Speaker 2: is there one that you prefer, you know, as a musician.

710
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:05,359
Speaker 4: So, I mean, first of all, there's a really big

711
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 4: difference between if anyone's checking out the McLaren seven to

712
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 4: twenty and they're thinking about hopping into seven point fifty,

713
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 4: do it because the exhaust is radically different. I'm really

714
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:20,840
Speaker 4: loving it now. My friend as a Ferrari A twelve

715
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:24,319
Speaker 4: super Fast, which I'm going like, oh, oh, it's great.

716
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 4: So then the GT three rs I put an exhaust

717
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:30,840
Speaker 4: and our one Motorsports exhaust on it, so it sounds

718
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 4: almost like an F one. I have a feeling. I

719
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 4: have a feeling after being in that V ten and

720
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 4: test driving the STO, I'm really gonna love that V ten.

721
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 4: I think that that sound to me sounds really really cool.

722
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:49,879
Speaker 4: Of the cars that I own. The only other thing

723
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:54,799
Speaker 4: that I've heard my friend that you met, Hannah Michelle,

724
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:58,320
Speaker 4: she is an eight twelve super Fast and that engine

725
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:02,319
Speaker 4: sounds pretty darn musical to me, you know, so, but

726
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:04,840
Speaker 4: they all sound musical for a different reason. You know.

727
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:06,800
Speaker 4: It's kind of like, you know, do you want to

728
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 4: play a bebop song, a rock song? You know thet Furrs.

729
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:13,479
Speaker 4: When I take it out on the track, I'm just like, wow,

730
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:15,720
Speaker 4: this still sounds amazing to dreams.

731
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 2: The reason I thought of it is because, I mean,

732
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:23,360
Speaker 2: you have I don't know what ten or eleven studio albums,

733
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 2: and I was looking at your listings and thinking, I

734
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 2: wonder if he ever put a thought about putting an

735
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 2: engine in a song, because you know, Eddie van Halen

736
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:37,880
Speaker 2: famously used his Lamborghini Mura at the beginning of Panama.

737
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 4: Oh that's awesome.

738
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:41,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he just like backed it into the studio

739
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 2: and just cranked it up.

740
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 4: Oh that's so cool. I got to work with him once.

741
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:51,240
Speaker 4: He was very nice.

742
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:55,839
Speaker 2: You mentioned singer by the way, I went and saw

743
00:38:55,840 --> 00:39:00,120
Speaker 2: a singer downtown yesterday. I'd never you know, besides on

744
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,439
Speaker 2: the internet scene and been able to touch and sit

745
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 2: in And what a gorgeous vehicle. That is something totally different,

746
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 2: that's not something that you'd necessarily want to take on

747
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 2: the track, more of a daily driver. But you ever

748
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:12,760
Speaker 2: ever look at those cars?

749
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 4: Well, my friend Michelle, that got me into this whole

750
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 4: nonsense from the beginning is the head marketing person. I'm

751
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:26,839
Speaker 4: sure she greeted you at Singer in California. You know,

752
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 4: I don't know if they're beautiful, they're bespoke, they're incredible.

753
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 4: I just for me, I'm not sure if I'm gonna

754
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 4: like lay out a million and a half dollars if

755
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:42,879
Speaker 4: I would rather have three or four.

756
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:44,360
Speaker 3: You can get a lot of cars.

757
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 4: So yeah, and that I would feel like driving if

758
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 4: something ever happened to it. It was like, okay, well,

759
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 4: insurance or something would cover when you start getting into

760
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 4: that world of going out with a PEGANI or or

761
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 4: a singer or something like that, and if something happens,

762
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:06,359
Speaker 4: I might feel just too insecure. Now watch, I would

763
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:09,399
Speaker 4: love to in my in my heart, I would love

764
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 4: to have a roof or a singer a roof, you know, yeah,

765
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 4: of course, but but I mean, you know, these are

766
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 4: these are these are wonderful things to think.

767
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:21,279
Speaker 3: Do you do you ever?

768
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 1: Are you ever inside EV's that have sort of the

769
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 1: synthetic engine note, yeah, okay, so I just made a

770
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:32,760
Speaker 1: cross sign on video.

771
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 3: I'm so curious.

772
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 5: I don't I don't want an EV toothbrush. I don't

773
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:43,400
Speaker 5: want an EV Sophmormer I am anti e V in

774
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:49,959
Speaker 5: every single possible way, mainly because mainly because it's being

775
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 5: dictated by our government or the or the or the

776
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:57,880
Speaker 5: regulation set forth by the UK governments, because they're offering

777
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 5: tax breaks for people to get in. It's look, if

778
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:04,479
Speaker 5: it was the marketplace to marketplace and we just said here,

779
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 5: we're going to like start the EV, I would be

780
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 5: all down for it.

781
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:14,239
Speaker 4: But what I'm anti EV about is governments imposing on

782
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 4: business people. It would be like somebody coming to me

783
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 4: and saying, hey, Chris, we really like your your concert,

784
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 4: but we're going to take out the key of F

785
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 4: for you. You can no longer play in the key

786
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:26,879
Speaker 4: of F. You can do everything else, but you can't

787
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 4: play in the key of F. So we're gonna put

788
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 4: a little muffler on your trumpet that's gonna regulate you,

789
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 4: so you can't play in the key of F. I'd

790
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:35,399
Speaker 4: be like, are you insane? Like so, I think that

791
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:41,280
Speaker 4: evs have have hindered the ability for combustion engine cars

792
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 4: to go forward rapidly, like to make progress, because they

793
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 4: don't know what the landscape is like, you know, like

794
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:53,239
Speaker 4: Ferrari and Porsche and McLaren and what's gonna happen. What

795
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 4: are these governments? Why is government involved in this thing?

796
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 4: And it's my personal opinion, obviously I'm in the minority,

797
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 4: but I just don't think pet I just don't think

798
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:10,880
Speaker 4: petrol cars that are made by Porsia, McLaren, Lamborghini and

799
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 4: Ferrari are are are hurting the world as much as

800
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 4: the fact that it's called global warming and China and

801
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 4: India are not playing by global warming conditions.

802
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:25,359
Speaker 2: I don't want to so I don't want to stoke

803
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:29,799
Speaker 2: the fire, Chris, but consider the fact that those subsidies

804
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 2: that the government is paying out to support the EV

805
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 2: industry are being financed with our tax dollars.

806
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 4: And they're not You have a whole mess of people

807
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 4: that look at if I said to you, hey, I

808
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 4: have a two thousand and eight iPhone, I'm going to

809
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 4: sell it to you for one hundred bucks, You'd be like,

810
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:53,880
Speaker 4: are you crazy? I'd to one of two thousand and

811
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 4: eight iPhone. So that subsequently, that's why the EV markets.

812
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:00,120
Speaker 4: You know, if you've bought a Porsche tie Ca and

813
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 4: turbos for two twenty five and now it's worth eighty

814
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 4: three years later, and so it takes away the whole

815
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:12,879
Speaker 4: enthusiast thing of oh my goodness, you have a nine

816
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 4: to eleven R dude, that's rocking. You know that whole

817
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:20,319
Speaker 4: thing's going to be gone with EVS. So I and

818
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 4: because my my EV or my daily commute is Delta Airlines,

819
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:28,360
Speaker 4: I'm in this weird you know, or Lufton's or whatever.

820
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 4: I'm in an airplane every day when I'm home. I

821
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:34,400
Speaker 4: don't need to really go anywhere from point A to B.

822
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:37,319
Speaker 4: The only reason I ever get into a car is

823
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:41,479
Speaker 4: because I want to escape. I want meditation, I want

824
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 4: to drive on the track, so I'm not driving commuting

825
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 4: to work. I get it if you're if you live

826
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 4: in a metropolitan city and you want to go point

827
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 4: A to B, sure, I guess. But for me, I

828
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 4: need to hear a sound of an engine. And the

829
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 4: last thing I want is teching a car. And I

830
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 4: heard that Ferrari. You guys can tell me. I heard

831
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 4: Ferrari is going to do away with like radio and

832
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 4: navigations in the car. And just like Apple car play

833
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:10,879
Speaker 4: is your thing, it's just gonna have a hookup for that.

834
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:13,319
Speaker 4: And I think that would be just awesome, you know,

835
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 4: like when I get in my GT when I get in,

836
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 4: when I get in my GT four, Caman, there's nothing

837
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 4: in it. It's just it's just a yeah. I just

838
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 4: love it. I don't think I want to analog everything,

839
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:26,840
Speaker 4: analog everything.

840
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 2: I don't think Ferrari is going to do that. They

841
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 2: can't do that. Maybe on some special edition.

842
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 4: They're just gonna get away with no more NAB because

843
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 4: your NAB comes all from your phone, right, but I

844
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:41,959
Speaker 4: no more radio from your phone.

845
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 2: We'll ask, and I will ask. I think I think

846
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 2: they can't, and I will say, by the way, that

847
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:51,759
Speaker 2: doesn't always work that well. I got a Challenger a

848
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 2: couple of years ago and they said, do you want

849
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 2: to have a navigation system built in? And I said no,

850
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:58,839
Speaker 2: Why I always used to want to, But there are

851
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 2: times if you don't have it that you're gonna need it.

852
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 4: But by eliminating it, it makes the car timeless.

853
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 2: No, I agree one hundred. I agree with that one percent.

854
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 4: You're just always plugging in and your time is inserted

855
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:14,320
Speaker 4: by your phone, because in ten years is gonna be different.

856
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 2: No, if it's not, if it's not your daily driver,

857
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:19,400
Speaker 2: if it's a special thing that you bought for your passion,

858
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 2: a work of art, something that you because you are

859
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 2: to drive. Then I would love to have a car

860
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 2: that has no uh navigation, no screen, no nothing in it,

861
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 2: you know, I mean.

862
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 3: Miles and buttons and knobs.

863
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:35,360
Speaker 4: And that, and you know, one of the one of

864
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 4: the main like the lovely people at McLaren and I

865
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 4: love Ferraris too, but the lovely people at McLaren sent

866
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 4: me a seven point fifty to try out and I

867
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:46,799
Speaker 4: loved it. And that very same week I drove the

868
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 4: two ninety six Ferrari and just sit like, first of all,

869
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 4: you're sitting on that with the steering wheel and there's

870
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 4: so many controls on the steering wheel that you can

871
00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 4: accidentally hit or something like that.

872
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 2: I mean like, yeah, yeah.

873
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:04,759
Speaker 3: I'm surprised to hear you say that.

874
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:10,880
Speaker 1: Well, McLaren is sort of notorious for not having great tech,

875
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 1: you know, having issues.

876
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 4: No, the seven fifty died.

877
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 3: It's dialed in. This is good to hear.

878
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:19,800
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it's awesome. And the build quality is awesome.

879
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:24,280
Speaker 4: And the sound of the engine is considerably more cracking

880
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:28,239
Speaker 4: than the two ninety six, by the ways, and the

881
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 4: steering wheel, the steering wheel is plain. It's just al

882
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 4: kintara and and carbon fiber and no other buttons.

883
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:36,759
Speaker 2: Nothing in a car like that. And I mean you're

884
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 2: listening to music all day. You're playing music all day?

885
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:39,359
Speaker 4: Uh?

886
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 2: Do you just like to hear the sound of the

887
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 2: engine and not not turn on the stereo?

888
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 4: I never turn on anything. I mean, if it's like

889
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 4: a four hour drive, I might check or I might

890
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:55,360
Speaker 4: maybe for a second, dial up a podcast for a second.

891
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:58,880
Speaker 4: I don't really ever listen to music because you have

892
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 4: two different kinds of music. You don't listen to Beethoven

893
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 4: and rock music at the same time. And to me,

894
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 4: the sound of the engine is like Beethoven, my my Claren.

895
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 4: I can put the window down in the back and

896
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 4: keep the top up and hear that engine crack along.

897
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:16,279
Speaker 4: And in I Porsche you can't really hear anything from

898
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:20,800
Speaker 4: a radio, So it's either the demand engine or the

899
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:22,760
Speaker 4: GT three eras you're less screwed?

900
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 1: Have you ever medy, are there any cars that stand

901
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:28,720
Speaker 1: out that you thought that sounds terrible, that that engine

902
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 1: sounds terrible?

903
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 4: Boy, huh, I probably haven't. I mean, of like like

904
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:38,840
Speaker 4: good cars.

905
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:41,720
Speaker 2: I mean I can't even think of one myself.

906
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:44,800
Speaker 4: Is there when there when when they're when they're too

907
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 4: when they're too trying to be muffled. Like I don't

908
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 4: mean like terrible, but like when you get if you

909
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:55,879
Speaker 4: get into an M five, it just feels like we're

910
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:58,839
Speaker 4: trying to build something here to be comfortable. I don't

911
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 4: really want to get into a car are and feel comfortable.

912
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 4: Like to me, I would never own a pair of

913
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:08,399
Speaker 4: Sangue ever, Like I don't want screens on the ride.

914
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:10,399
Speaker 4: I don't want to be comfortable. I want to get

915
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:14,319
Speaker 4: into a car and have my blood go pressure it

916
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:18,320
Speaker 4: brought up, and then I you know, if my daily

917
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 4: is going to be the demand engine which is g

918
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 4: T fours aren't like super comfortable and the engine sounds

919
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 4: like a freight train. That to me, But it's that's

920
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:31,320
Speaker 4: my daily, you know, it's sure, Or my McLaren's my daily,

921
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:33,920
Speaker 4: you know it's but it's not like this luxurious you know,

922
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:36,879
Speaker 4: trying to like be away from you know, and go

923
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 4: all the bumps.

924
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 3: Yeah.

925
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 2: Also, I don't think Chris, you're not often exposed to

926
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 2: like an old RX seven with a glass pack muffler

927
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:48,879
Speaker 2: on it. You know, you know that's not a good sound.

928
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:51,879
Speaker 2: What about what about a single seater. Do you ever

929
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 2: get a chance, you know, at thermal to get into.

930
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:57,920
Speaker 4: You know, I've seen them, I've seen them all. And

931
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:00,319
Speaker 4: my friend just ordered a T fifty, which is and

932
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 4: so he's gonna, he's gonna he's gonna give me a

933
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 4: little spin around in that.

934
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:06,400
Speaker 5: Uh.

935
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:08,799
Speaker 4: And that's and I've seen you know, Patrick's always out

936
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:10,800
Speaker 4: there in that l M P and all that stuff.

937
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 4: But but I mean, I've just seen it. I haven't

938
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 4: gotten in it yet.

939
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 2: What a cool journey, dude, you have. You've come so far,

940
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 2: so fast, and yet I feel like you're gonna be

941
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 2: on this road for a while.

942
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:27,880
Speaker 4: So yeah, I'm I mean it it's just so fun.

943
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:32,439
Speaker 4: I mean, and I had no idea how like incredibly,

944
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 4: Like the more you learn about it, the further away

945
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:39,399
Speaker 4: the journey becomes, right because it's like the way these

946
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 4: guys talk about you know, now, I know about like

947
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:44,280
Speaker 4: how to should I modify cars? And and it starts

948
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 4: with the exhaust and the coilers and the tires and

949
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 4: then they you know, all the tuning and the mapping

950
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:51,239
Speaker 4: and the blah blah bub and I'm going like, oh god,

951
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 4: I thought trumpet players were geeky. This is like next level.

952
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 1: Well that that brings up I do have two more

953
00:49:57,680 --> 00:50:00,920
Speaker 1: questions for you. Number one, you know, what is the

954
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:03,479
Speaker 1: goal with with all of this You've said, you don't

955
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 1: necessarily think you're gonna we're going to see you in

956
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:08,440
Speaker 1: the Ferrari Challenge or any you know, F one support

957
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:09,879
Speaker 1: races or anything like that.

958
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:14,320
Speaker 3: But what is the goal? That's that's my first question.

959
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:18,759
Speaker 4: I have is there's a gentleman that lives on the track, Paul,

960
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 4: that lives around the corner of my neighbor and and

961
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 4: you know, he's like Chris, you just and he has

962
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 4: every he has the singers, and he has a lot

963
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:29,719
Speaker 4: of cup cars, and he has the tee fifties and

964
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 4: all that stuff. And I was like, you know, Chris,

965
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:34,359
Speaker 4: And I was like, Paul, do you you know when

966
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:36,920
Speaker 4: you drive, are you going to take that tee fifty

967
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 4: out on the on the track? And he goes, yeah,

968
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:41,280
Speaker 4: that's the only place I'm going to take on the track.

969
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:44,919
Speaker 4: And he goes, Chris, you need to like gift your

970
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:47,360
Speaker 4: thing instead of like trying to think it's gonna be

971
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:50,280
Speaker 4: a race car driver. No, this is thermost like the

972
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 4: place that you can go and not be arrested. It's

973
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 4: safer than driving to get gas in West Hollywood where

974
00:50:56,560 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 4: I live. I mean, honestly, I feel terrified sometimes in

975
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 4: the streets of La like with all the people walking

976
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 4: out in the middle of the night or skateboarders or

977
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:09,880
Speaker 4: road ragers or whatever. I'm like, WHOA. So I'm trying

978
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:12,319
Speaker 4: this year. My goal is to, like, now that I've

979
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 4: gotten to a certain level where I'm kinda i can

980
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 4: drive now, my goal is to like ratchet it down

981
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 4: a little bit and find out how to just enjoy

982
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 4: and have fun, to go out and not necessarily chase

983
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 4: the quickest and get better, better, better better at the

984
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 4: lapt and go more. For like, boy, this is just

985
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 4: a back to that incredible sensation of the sound, And

986
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 4: now that I've gotten to a certain level, keep refining

987
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:40,200
Speaker 4: with the coach and go out and have fun and

988
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 4: realize how lucky you are to be able to do this.

989
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 3: I love that. The other thing, I'm just so curious,

990
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 3: just on a personal level.

991
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 1: You've mentioned several times how the car community is very

992
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:55,759
Speaker 1: different from the music community, and I'm so curious, what

993
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:59,279
Speaker 1: does that mean? What is the music community? You know

994
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:03,800
Speaker 1: I'm not in music. Tell tell us what does that mean.

995
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 4: First of all, if you were interviewing an F one driver,

996
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 4: if they were talking about their other one F one drivers,

997
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:14,440
Speaker 4: they would probably have competition and snarky things going on

998
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 4: and blah blah blah in and amongst themselves. So when

999
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:20,640
Speaker 4: I'm around other musicians, it's other musicians, but at a

1000
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 4: place like Thermal or at a car meet or cars

1001
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 4: in coffee, they're all doing other things for their lives

1002
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:31,319
Speaker 4: and we all come together on this platform and so

1003
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 4: everyone is super open, whereas I've found, like in music,

1004
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 4: for various reasons or not, people are guarded for their

1005
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 4: own thing, for their trajectory or their success of their

1006
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 4: career or where they are or they're trying to climb

1007
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 4: up the ladder in music, and you feel like a

1008
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 4: hustle going on. And so there are you know, people

1009
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:55,040
Speaker 4: are very successful in what they do in their life,

1010
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 4: but they're all here for the joy of cars, whether

1011
00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:00,759
Speaker 4: it's the shape or the sound, or talk about their

1012
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 4: lap times or whatever it is. And everyone is just

1013
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:07,399
Speaker 4: so open. You know, here, man, you want to check

1014
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:09,719
Speaker 4: out this or like I'm like, okay, I mean I

1015
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 4: remember the very first day I got to Thermal, and

1016
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 4: I had never like really driven on track ever, and

1017
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:18,440
Speaker 4: the Don Cusick is one of the main guys on

1018
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 4: you oons is an any team and stuff like he's

1019
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 4: a big boy and he just said, here's my brand

1020
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 4: new GP three year US and just threw me the keys.

1021
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:27,279
Speaker 4: Go take it out on track, take it out on truck.

1022
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:27,440
Speaker 1: Oh.

1023
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:29,440
Speaker 4: And I go. I go like, dude, I don't know

1024
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 4: what I'm doing. And he goes, hey, Ruben, will you

1025
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:33,719
Speaker 4: hook up a lead follow for him so we can

1026
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 4: follow someone get the lines.

1027
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:39,319
Speaker 3: And I'm like, wow, okay, yeah, that's that's fantasy. I

1028
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 3: think that's just described.

1029
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:44,800
Speaker 2: It well, or I would feel a little bit intimidated.

1030
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:48,440
Speaker 2: I went one time with a friend to Augusta and

1031
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 2: he was like, you want to play around? And I

1032
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:52,359
Speaker 2: I'm just not good enough to say yes. I had

1033
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 2: to say no, right, you know right?

1034
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:57,359
Speaker 4: I mean this. The other thing is that as I

1035
00:53:57,360 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 4: get to the back nine of my life, so to speak,

1036
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 4: I just don't want to open that can of worms

1037
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 4: that every older gentleman does, and that's called golf, because

1038
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 4: that is something that is that is I don't want.

1039
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:16,480
Speaker 4: I don't want anything to do with golf. So this

1040
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:20,560
Speaker 4: is like a perfect way to have to develop a

1041
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:24,320
Speaker 4: friendship with the community and to get excited about something

1042
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:28,240
Speaker 4: which isn't have to do with you know, golf.

1043
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 1: Yes, well we're gonna we're gonna do that. That could

1044
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 1: be dangerous, so we'll check back in with you to

1045
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:36,480
Speaker 1: make sure.

1046
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:38,799
Speaker 2: You know, Hannah I was thinking exactly. I was like,

1047
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 2: I want to check in with Chris, like I don't know,

1048
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 2: every six months or at least once a year, just

1049
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:47,320
Speaker 2: to see how he's doing here, because what a cool story.

1050
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 2: I mean, that is just amazing, and I just it's

1051
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 2: so cool that you I mean, first of all, you

1052
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:57,360
Speaker 2: pick this up in Tokyo, right, like, what the hell?

1053
00:54:57,440 --> 00:55:00,840
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, Michelle was the first one. It was

1054
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:03,520
Speaker 4: a Porsche experience in LA when I went down kind

1055
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:06,640
Speaker 4: of as people do is Disneyland. But the difference is

1056
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 4: is that you know you do on the little drippad

1057
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 4: and all that stuff. Is that no one took me

1058
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:14,640
Speaker 4: around with that, you know, took me around and said

1059
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:17,799
Speaker 4: we're not worrying about any regulations. I'm a German race

1060
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:21,560
Speaker 4: car driver. Just to put it into perspective. My saxophonist

1061
00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 4: who's like thirty, and you know, he said, great shape.

1062
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:28,400
Speaker 4: I took him to the Porsche Experiences. Just we're in

1063
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:31,400
Speaker 4: Tokyo day off, so when the German race car driver

1064
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:34,359
Speaker 4: came in, we'd already spent the whole hour on the track.

1065
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:36,320
Speaker 4: When the German guy comes over and says, would you

1066
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:38,160
Speaker 4: guys like a hot lap? I said, Chad, would you

1067
00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:41,319
Speaker 4: like to go first? And Chad said yes, that'd be great.

1068
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:43,919
Speaker 4: They came right back in after like two minutes. I said,

1069
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:49,320
Speaker 4: what happened? Chad said, I'm out, no, no, no, I said,

1070
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:52,719
Speaker 4: bring me in. So this guy was taking no prisoners.

1071
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:55,920
Speaker 4: So I lasted two or three laps. That's what reworked

1072
00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:58,680
Speaker 4: my brain. So they don't do that at the Porsche Experience.

1073
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:01,920
Speaker 2: That is a dude. I'm so glad that Hannah brought

1074
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:05,840
Speaker 2: you on the podcast because it's been a pleasure. I

1075
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:08,719
Speaker 2: can't wait to meet you in person and such a

1076
00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 2: story for.

1077
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:12,920
Speaker 4: Some check in and come to our show as my

1078
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:15,239
Speaker 4: guest and get my number from Hannah and uh uh

1079
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:18,040
Speaker 4: in December and bring some friends and and it's it's

1080
00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:20,680
Speaker 4: really fun. It's it's two shows a night every night,

1081
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:23,600
Speaker 4: Christmas Night, New Year's eyne. But I think we begin

1082
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:25,400
Speaker 4: like around the tenth of December and go all the

1083
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:28,160
Speaker 4: way to the seventh of Jane in New York yet

1084
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:28,719
Speaker 4: the blue note.

1085
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:31,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, nice, I absolutely would love to and I will

1086
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:33,799
Speaker 2: take you up on that, so appreciate it. Have a

1087
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:34,279
Speaker 2: great show.

1088
00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:37,560
Speaker 4: You such a thrill. Bye bye bye.

1089
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:41,520
Speaker 2: All right, cool. The guy is amazing and I can't

1090
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:45,239
Speaker 2: to go see his shows. I mean, he's clearly like

1091
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:49,440
Speaker 2: somebody who uh he said he practiced his trumpet like

1092
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:50,399
Speaker 2: four hours a day.

1093
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:53,839
Speaker 1: Even Still, that's this is someone who played Carnegie Hall

1094
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:56,680
Speaker 1: when he was a child. Isn't that wild?

1095
00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:58,160
Speaker 2: Yeah? You said he played with Sinatra.

1096
00:56:58,520 --> 00:56:58,719
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1097
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:03,520
Speaker 1: Also that is from Oregon, because I also am from Oregon. Yeah,

1098
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:04,720
Speaker 1: so you know we have that in common.

1099
00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:07,280
Speaker 3: Pacific Northwest Oregon must be sweet.

1100
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:08,440
Speaker 2: I've never been there, but.

1101
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:10,040
Speaker 3: It was super sweet in the eighties. Let me tell you.

1102
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:11,840
Speaker 2: Is it an awesome place to live or does it

1103
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:12,840
Speaker 2: rain way too much?

1104
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:16,120
Speaker 1: No, that's only on the ocean side and on the

1105
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:17,960
Speaker 1: on the other side of the mountains, it's like three

1106
00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:19,120
Speaker 1: hundred days of sun.

1107
00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:21,080
Speaker 2: And I gotta go there. I mean, are you like

1108
00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:24,520
Speaker 2: just hiking and camping and drinking and rainy or beer all.

1109
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:26,600
Speaker 1: The time or it's dude, you need to go to Bend,

1110
00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 1: Oregon and do a bunch of things.

1111
00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:29,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a place to be.

1112
00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:31,120
Speaker 2: I would love to do that. I won't be doing

1113
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:33,320
Speaker 2: that anytime soon, but I will be going to the

1114
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:34,800
Speaker 2: Bridge this weekend.

1115
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:36,360
Speaker 3: Yes, Oh, I'm excited for you.

1116
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:40,560
Speaker 2: So that's a car show in the Hampton's and I

1117
00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:42,560
Speaker 2: get the feeling it's going to be I noticed today

1118
00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:45,120
Speaker 2: when they sent me the invite. They're also selling a

1119
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:48,040
Speaker 2: limited edition cashmere hoodie.

1120
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:49,320
Speaker 3: For over three hundred dollars.

1121
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 2: It is four hundred dollars and it doesn't look worth it.

1122
00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:56,040
Speaker 3: Frankly, you need the Playboy Bunny motif.

1123
00:57:56,320 --> 00:57:57,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know about it.

1124
00:57:58,160 --> 00:57:58,840
Speaker 3: Not original.

1125
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 2: Also, all the rule are like, you know, everybody has

1126
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:05,320
Speaker 2: to have like a ticket and a QR code, even

1127
00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:07,360
Speaker 2: an infant. And they were like, if you show up

1128
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:09,360
Speaker 2: in an infant who doesn't have a q R code,

1129
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:10,680
Speaker 2: they will be turned away at the gate.

1130
00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:16,400
Speaker 3: I it's not cool. It's not cool, infant child.

1131
00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:20,720
Speaker 1: It's a little heavy handed, and I don't like it

1132
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:24,760
Speaker 1: when car gatherings are heavy handed on that type of thing.

1133
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 1: This is just what I was talking about at Pebble Beach.

1134
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:30,080
Speaker 1: Come on, relax, it's not that deep.

1135
00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:33,120
Speaker 2: Just the best thing is it's for a children's charity

1136
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 2: and they're turning away infants at the gate.

1137
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 1: Let's put that to the test. You've got a couple infants,

1138
00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:41,120
Speaker 1: why don't you take them? And I should just show

1139
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 1: up with baby lol Sting operation Matt.

1140
00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:48,320
Speaker 2: No, I'm excited. It's what it's like post war race cars.

1141
00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:50,560
Speaker 2: I guess there used to be a racetrack there, and

1142
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:53,480
Speaker 2: so they want cars that could feasibly have run on

1143
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:55,760
Speaker 2: that track. But I'm guessing it's also just a ton

1144
00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:59,440
Speaker 2: of super rich people who have amazing vehicles, and I

1145
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:00,680
Speaker 2: am excited to look at them.

1146
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:01,400
Speaker 3: You're here for it.

1147
00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:05,040
Speaker 2: Yes, I hope there's a Lamborghini Revelto there because I

1148
00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:05,800
Speaker 2: have not seen one.

1149
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:07,120
Speaker 3: Of the person I bet you.

1150
00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:10,360
Speaker 1: I bet they've started deliveries. There are some out there.

1151
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:12,280
Speaker 1: I'm looking at someone on the street the other day.

1152
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:16,200
Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to that there will be a Revology

1153
00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:18,919
Speaker 2: Mustang there, so I'll finally get to see the car

1154
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:20,919
Speaker 2: I've been so excited about the last year.

1155
00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:25,640
Speaker 3: Make them for your pr work, makes them give you

1156
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:26,000
Speaker 3: a cut.

1157
00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:28,920
Speaker 2: I'm going to get in and make sure everything works perfectly.

1158
00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:31,280
Speaker 2: You know, the doorheadles come off in your.

1159
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:33,040
Speaker 3: Hand better really thrash that.

1160
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:35,000
Speaker 2: I would love to thrash that car.

1161
00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 3: Hey, and people need to know.

1162
00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:41,280
Speaker 2: I guess there will be probably a ton of ferraris there,

1163
00:59:41,640 --> 00:59:45,880
Speaker 2: but also probably some stuff I you know, never had

1164
00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:47,880
Speaker 2: even thought of. What are the kind of race cars

1165
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:51,360
Speaker 2: that like the cool kids love, like Type B rally

1166
00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:52,120
Speaker 2: cars or whatever.

1167
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:55,360
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, like the Lancy Adelta. Yeah, like the old

1168
00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:56,560
Speaker 1: Audis from the eighties.

1169
00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:58,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, those are the pictures that are in their their

1170
00:59:58,560 --> 00:59:59,040
Speaker 2: press mater.

1171
00:59:59,240 --> 00:59:59,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, those are cool.

1172
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:02,320
Speaker 2: There's a bridge. What are you doing this weekend?

1173
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:06,200
Speaker 3: You know what? I don't know what I'm doing.

1174
01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:09,840
Speaker 2: Are you driving anything interesting? Right now? I'm driving giant

1175
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:11,760
Speaker 2: New Infinity QX eighty.

1176
01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:14,680
Speaker 1: It's like, you know what, I'm going to get that

1177
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:17,200
Speaker 1: for a polo match in like two weeks.

1178
01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:19,560
Speaker 2: So it must perfect because you could fit a few

1179
01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:22,080
Speaker 2: horses in the back. It is a land yacht. And

1180
01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:25,160
Speaker 2: I love the car seats fitting it. Yes, we're facing

1181
01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:31,280
Speaker 2: car seats fit. I love, you know, gigantic vehicles American,

1182
01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:33,840
Speaker 2: Well it's not American, but gigantic vehicles like this made

1183
01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:36,520
Speaker 2: for the American market just because you feel like you

1184
01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:39,640
Speaker 2: own the road. And but the I mean, I've only

1185
01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:42,480
Speaker 2: spent a day in it, so I'm gonna withhold judgment. Fine,

1186
01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:45,120
Speaker 2: the tech is a little bit it's like Windows versus Apple.

1187
01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:47,920
Speaker 2: The tech is a little bit Windows. It's like a

1188
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:51,560
Speaker 2: computer nerd put together the layout and it's hard to understand.

1189
01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:53,800
Speaker 1: Will have to compare notes.

1190
01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:55,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, we will. It's kind of you know, it's it's

1191
01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:59,800
Speaker 2: like luxurious seating and leather, I guess, but it's not

1192
01:00:59,840 --> 01:01:02,920
Speaker 2: a V eight or anything more than that. So it's

1193
01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:05,360
Speaker 2: if you're gonna make a luxurious vehicle, don't you need

1194
01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:06,960
Speaker 2: to put at least eight cylinders into it?

1195
01:01:07,240 --> 01:01:12,800
Speaker 1: If it's an SUV, who cares? I mean, if it's

1196
01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:14,040
Speaker 1: like a family hauler.

1197
01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:23,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, yes, Fulkswagen had that in the tour Egg.

1198
01:01:23,160 --> 01:01:26,560
Speaker 2: They had a Diesel V ten in that.

1199
01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:29,000
Speaker 1: In Germany probably I've seen them.

1200
01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:32,800
Speaker 2: Here in Bronxville. That was before diesels pretty much outlawed.

1201
01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:34,439
Speaker 3: That must have been a long time ago.

1202
01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:38,240
Speaker 2: But anyway, I'm testing that out. I'm gonna be testing out,

1203
01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:41,000
Speaker 2: uh a Lincoln soon, which I haven't driven a Lincoln

1204
01:01:41,040 --> 01:01:44,480
Speaker 2: in so many years. So but that's another uh, that's

1205
01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:47,520
Speaker 2: another company where they won't put a V eight you

1206
01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:51,680
Speaker 2: know why. I mean an Infinity won't put a V

1207
01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:56,080
Speaker 2: eight anymore, and uh, Toyota won't put a V eighth

1208
01:01:56,560 --> 01:01:58,640
Speaker 2: or Nissan won't put a V eight except for the

1209
01:01:58,720 --> 01:01:59,440
Speaker 2: you know, Godzilla.

1210
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:02,680
Speaker 3: I feel like you're like comprising a blacklist.

1211
01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:06,960
Speaker 2: I feel like you're there's a there's a cabal of

1212
01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:11,040
Speaker 2: like global elders. There's a committee that's decided we're not

1213
01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:14,200
Speaker 2: allowed to have V eights in big trucks anymore. I

1214
01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:14,800
Speaker 2: don't know why.

1215
01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:16,920
Speaker 3: Illuminati, yeah cars.

1216
01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:19,320
Speaker 2: The same people that are the same people that are

1217
01:02:19,360 --> 01:02:20,560
Speaker 2: Pimp and e V's. You know.

1218
01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:25,320
Speaker 1: Back to Chris, I like that he says what he thinks,

1219
01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:28,160
Speaker 1: you know. I love that in people that they just

1220
01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:31,520
Speaker 1: say what they think and don't apologize for I will

1221
01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:33,720
Speaker 1: tell you I do have a bit of news coming

1222
01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:38,240
Speaker 1: out later today, which is that Christie's auction House has

1223
01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:43,920
Speaker 1: bought Gooding In Company, which is a surprise. I've I've

1224
01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:46,120
Speaker 1: already reached out to a bunch of people and this

1225
01:02:46,200 --> 01:02:48,480
Speaker 1: seems to sort of have come out of the blue.

1226
01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:51,560
Speaker 1: But the transaction is gonna close by the end of

1227
01:02:51,560 --> 01:02:54,360
Speaker 1: the year, and from what I'm hearing, I think it's

1228
01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:58,320
Speaker 1: really a good thing, because dude, the auction houses are

1229
01:02:58,360 --> 01:03:01,439
Speaker 1: just dealing with the glut of cars and there needed

1230
01:03:01,480 --> 01:03:02,440
Speaker 1: to be some consolidation.

1231
01:03:02,560 --> 01:03:04,640
Speaker 2: But wait, so when I think of the big car

1232
01:03:04,680 --> 01:03:08,320
Speaker 2: auctions that you go to, I think of Gooding, I

1233
01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:15,760
Speaker 2: think of Southey's, Southeby's exactly, Bottoms, Bottoms. Well, you're you're

1234
01:03:15,840 --> 01:03:16,640
Speaker 2: naming them all for me.

1235
01:03:16,720 --> 01:03:17,680
Speaker 3: You want me to keep going?

1236
01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:19,120
Speaker 2: What about Hagerty do they have?

1237
01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:21,320
Speaker 3: That's broad arrow, broad arrow.

1238
01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:23,120
Speaker 2: But I don't think if Christie's was going to be

1239
01:03:23,160 --> 01:03:24,800
Speaker 2: my point Eventually, well.

1240
01:03:24,680 --> 01:03:27,680
Speaker 1: You know, I think Christie's would like to move into

1241
01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:30,880
Speaker 1: the car space and what better way to do that

1242
01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:35,680
Speaker 1: then to simply buy an auction house already doing it.

1243
01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:38,680
Speaker 1: You know, that's a little bit what RM and Southereb's

1244
01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:44,200
Speaker 1: have done. So, you know, I think if it's the

1245
01:03:44,200 --> 01:03:48,280
Speaker 1: biggest deal that Christie's has done in the past few decades,

1246
01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:50,880
Speaker 1: which I think it is, you know, I'm guessing this

1247
01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:52,360
Speaker 1: is a nine figure deal.

1248
01:03:52,960 --> 01:03:55,280
Speaker 3: I can't I can't get and tell.

1249
01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:56,880
Speaker 1: On how much the deal is worth, but I think

1250
01:03:56,880 --> 01:04:00,160
Speaker 1: it's easily nine figures from what I hear from me.

1251
01:04:01,120 --> 01:04:04,000
Speaker 2: Probably the main auction I want to go to is Meekham.

1252
01:04:04,560 --> 01:04:06,360
Speaker 2: You know, I'm not surprised because I.

1253
01:04:06,640 --> 01:04:10,000
Speaker 3: Don't want to say not Barret Jackson, not. I know

1254
01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:10,760
Speaker 3: you love Craig.

1255
01:04:11,120 --> 01:04:13,640
Speaker 2: Barrett Jackson and Meekham are the ones that.

1256
01:04:13,560 --> 01:04:16,200
Speaker 3: I Are you going to go down the floor to sales?

1257
01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:18,720
Speaker 2: It would be a hell of a lot of fun.

1258
01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:20,919
Speaker 3: I think for me, I think it would.

1259
01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:24,680
Speaker 2: I would really like that. Uh and I would dress

1260
01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:28,880
Speaker 2: like an absolute clown to do that and bring it home.

1261
01:04:29,600 --> 01:04:32,360
Speaker 1: That is your happy place. You know that's great? I

1262
01:04:32,360 --> 01:04:32,920
Speaker 1: support it.

1263
01:04:33,040 --> 01:04:35,000
Speaker 2: All right, we have to wrap it up. That's all

1264
01:04:35,040 --> 01:04:35,600
Speaker 2: the time we have.

1265
01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:38,800
Speaker 1: Oh. I do want to say one more thing, Peter,

1266
01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:42,360
Speaker 1: thank you for sending us the Hot Pursuit die cast

1267
01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:46,200
Speaker 1: model car. That was the most thoughtful thing one of

1268
01:04:46,200 --> 01:04:49,640
Speaker 1: our wonderful listeners send us a model.

1269
01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:51,080
Speaker 2: Car, Hot Pursuit.

1270
01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:53,680
Speaker 3: A police car too, no less, so thank you for that.

1271
01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:55,320
Speaker 2: I love it. Did it look anything like the police

1272
01:04:55,320 --> 01:04:56,680
Speaker 2: car that pulled you over on the way to Mono?

1273
01:04:57,920 --> 01:05:00,000
Speaker 3: Yes? Minus about forty years.

1274
01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:02,960
Speaker 2: All right, yes, Peter, thank you very much. I also

1275
01:05:03,040 --> 01:05:05,760
Speaker 2: shot Peter a little email this morning when I saw that.

1276
01:05:06,200 --> 01:05:08,680
Speaker 2: Really appreciate it. You can shoot us an email at

1277
01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:10,640
Speaker 2: Hot Pursuit at Bloomberg dot net.

1278
01:05:11,480 --> 01:05:14,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we respond to hear from you, we do respond.

1279
01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:17,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, and give us an idea, you know, recommend a

1280
01:05:17,480 --> 01:05:19,560
Speaker 2: guest for us. I was just going to give us

1281
01:05:19,600 --> 01:05:20,920
Speaker 2: some questions.

1282
01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:22,400
Speaker 3: You know, we can take it.

1283
01:05:22,760 --> 01:05:25,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, some criticism. We appreciate all of your critique.

1284
01:05:26,200 --> 01:05:29,240
Speaker 1: Talk Tom out about the grateful dead, since I'm inept

1285
01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:29,480
Speaker 1: at that.

1286
01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:32,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you've got to sit there and just listen

1287
01:05:32,880 --> 01:05:36,000
Speaker 2: to the entire Cornell concert start to finish on a

1288
01:05:36,120 --> 01:05:39,840
Speaker 2: drive like LA to Vegas, and then you'll be one over.

1289
01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:41,040
Speaker 2: I'm sure on my list.

1290
01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:44,000
Speaker 1: I'm Matt Miller, and I'm Hannah Elliott, and this is

1291
01:05:44,040 --> 01:05:44,560
Speaker 1: Bloomberg