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Speaker 1: The deuce deuce of December is upon us, and you've

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Speaker 1: Happy Holidays, Mary, Christmas, all that, and then some tall,

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Speaker 1: pale and handsome Hey, it's your boy v Sizzle, Brian Campbell,

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Speaker 1: live and direct from the Hartford, Connecticut suburbs and joining

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Speaker 1: me via the powers of technology from Columbia not Columbia.

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Speaker 1: If the Wi Fi holds you're looking at, Luke Franklin Thomas, Luke,

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Speaker 1: you've arrived, You look safe, you look happy. I doubt

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Speaker 1: we'll have any production or Wi Fi errors how, and

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Speaker 1: the damn hell are you?

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Speaker 2: Luke? Yeah? I don't know how the WiFi is gonna go.

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Speaker 2: I'm already on Wi Fi number two, but hopefully it

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Speaker 1: What Speaking of number two, Luke, how does the South

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Speaker 1: American plumbing hold up for a gentleman of your stature?

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Speaker 2: Those are mostly fine? Those are mostly fine. I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: Keyword?

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Speaker 2: Oh is there an issue? Already?

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Speaker 1: There's no issues? I hear you. Everything's going good.

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Speaker 2: There's no issues, Luke, weird cadence. You're talking in a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm looking through you, Luke. That's where

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Speaker 2: You tell me it's fine. Everyone's celebrating Christmas here, which

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Speaker 1: Have you seen any bbls yet as a.

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Speaker 1: As always in MK history, it is dependent upon your mood, Luke.

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Speaker 1: But you look very jovial today, so I'm very happy

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Speaker 2: I didn't realize that they know about Santa Claus down here.

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Speaker 1: I love it. They realize there's a risen for the season, Luke.

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Speaker 1: A you know what I'm saying, a dark moment in

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Speaker 1: my youth? Can we bring back Long Island?

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Speaker 2: Looke?

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Speaker 2: Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, you're.

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Speaker 1: Good, Luke. How what what do you have plans for

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Speaker 3: We gotta do the we gotta do the double dip.

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Speaker 3: So my family never celebrated Christmas Eve growing up. It

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Speaker 1: Is that an Australian thing to not celebrate Christmas Eve?

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Speaker 1: We gotta, Luke, we gotta hang out with the seas

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Speaker 2: This is wonderful, right, Yeah? Who knows who his dad

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, yes, there are English speaking allies.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, will you and Uncle Pepe talk about

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Speaker 1: But would you say it's comparable to how Floyd carried

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Speaker 2: Yes, But the difference is McGregor wasn't flopping to his knees.

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Speaker 2: It just you know, we all saw what happened in

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Speaker 2: with it. It changes the incentive structure. But Jake Paul

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Speaker 2: Not that people had to like it, no, but that

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Speaker 2: if for no other reason, then you saw Jake get

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Speaker 1: Okay, it wasn't nearly as bad as that, But the

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Speaker 1: But when you have three consecutive fights, the Mike Tyson

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Speaker 1: It was an embarrassment to the sport. It was gross,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I saw Anthony Joshua straight up carry him.

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Speaker 1: I saw Joshua suddenly not jabbing, not letting go his

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Speaker 1: Where did I go too far in my in my

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Speaker 1: Not to this level. Come on, I thought he was

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Speaker 2: accumulated stage where you just have to kind of look

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00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:30,399
Speaker 2: at the whole thing and say, what the fuck are

435
00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:31,520
Speaker 2: we doing here? Right?

436
00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:33,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's what I'm saying. It's just embarrassing. I'm

437
00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,520
Speaker 1: not saying the fight was fixed. Obviously, a broken jaw

438
00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:39,160
Speaker 1: in two places in the way that that punch finished

439
00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:41,000
Speaker 1: him off as not fixed, and I'm not going in

440
00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:43,359
Speaker 1: that direction. As you can see the X ray that

441
00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:45,840
Speaker 1: Jake Paul and his team have shared on social media,

442
00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,159
Speaker 1: you can see it in his mouth right there. I mean,

443
00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:50,800
Speaker 1: Jake Paul has balls to step in there, but I

444
00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,720
Speaker 1: think I take away from the respect of those balls

445
00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:57,080
Speaker 1: by the manner in which he executed himself. He's the

446
00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,240
Speaker 1: one that signed up to finally take on a really

447
00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:02,160
Speaker 1: tough fight, and he fought in literally the most embarrassing

448
00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:05,600
Speaker 1: way possible. And I guess everyone's just judging it as well.

449
00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:08,919
Speaker 1: He's an entertainer, he's not a fighter. He made a spectacle.

450
00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:12,000
Speaker 1: What do you expect? It was listed as a professional bout,

451
00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:16,160
Speaker 1: so again, like the Tyson fight, I expected a professional fight,

452
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:20,440
Speaker 1: which we didn't get ultimately in this one. So but Luke,

453
00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:24,200
Speaker 1: I'm not the only one saying that. Ultimately, there are

454
00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:27,159
Speaker 1: some others out there that are being more aggressive than

455
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:30,520
Speaker 1: I am, or at least equal, and not just their disgust,

456
00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:33,280
Speaker 1: but of like, what are we doing here? So much

457
00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:35,320
Speaker 1: though that you knew who I was gonna call Luke.

458
00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:37,640
Speaker 1: You know it was not gonna be Ghostbusters, all right?

459
00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:40,280
Speaker 1: If we got spicy things to share, we're gonna call

460
00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:43,320
Speaker 1: up our friends over there at Quervo. Yeah, so you

461
00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:54,000
Speaker 1: invented tequila for shots fire, and of course shots Fired

462
00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:55,680
Speaker 1: is brought to you by Quervo. Now's a good time

463
00:23:55,720 --> 00:24:00,200
Speaker 1: to enjoy tequila. That absolutely invented tequila. Israel Atasnia, the

464
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:04,280
Speaker 1: former UFC two Tom Middleway champion, chiming in on what

465
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 1: he saw. Let's listen it.

466
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 7: Honest thoughts on the fight. I feel like AJ carried

467
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,399
Speaker 7: Jake Paul to the sixth round. I know, my I

468
00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:15,440
Speaker 7: see and I understand fighting, but this is I guess,

469
00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:20,119
Speaker 7: the best result or the most realistic result, I guess,

470
00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,000
Speaker 7: but I know what my eyes was seen in the

471
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:26,200
Speaker 7: early rounds and then now we're here, so yeah, well

472
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,520
Speaker 7: they made money, everyone's happy. Blah blah blah, blah blah

473
00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:34,240
Speaker 7: blah blah.

474
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:36,240
Speaker 1: Look, I actually think, as I'm gonna see you up

475
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:39,280
Speaker 1: here for your reaction that this was the turning point

476
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:44,280
Speaker 1: fight on truly polarizing the combat sports fan base, where

477
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:47,119
Speaker 1: the boxing purest people like me are just sort of

478
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:51,480
Speaker 1: like enough enough, no more, and maybe the non purists

479
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:53,960
Speaker 1: who were just combat sports fans want to be entertained

480
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:57,840
Speaker 1: are saying what you said, which was I actually enjoyed it,

481
00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,360
Speaker 1: I actually have respect for Jake now blah blah blah

482
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:03,879
Speaker 1: blah blah. I guess that is what it is. But

483
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:07,240
Speaker 1: is Adasnya's reaction here incorrect in any form?

484
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:16,359
Speaker 2: I mean, there's a range of possible takes on this one.

485
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:21,679
Speaker 2: You know, I don't find his manifestly unreasonable. I'm not

486
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 2: saying I agree with every part of it, but you know,

487
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:27,119
Speaker 2: I can sort of get the there's different ways to

488
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:28,399
Speaker 2: look at it, right, so that you can look at

489
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,480
Speaker 2: it from an entrepreneurial perspective like, oh, you know, isn't

490
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:34,920
Speaker 2: it good for American boxing that someone's generating events of

491
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:38,720
Speaker 2: this magnitude? And on some level that is probably true.

492
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:40,600
Speaker 2: Others can make the other argument that well, this is

493
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:43,359
Speaker 2: actually ruining the essence of the core product, and isn't

494
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:45,359
Speaker 2: that bad? Yeah. I mean, again, these are kind of

495
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:48,639
Speaker 2: complicated things, but I just think for the you know,

496
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 2: if you got something out of it, great, right, great,

497
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 2: if you got something out of it great, I fine,

498
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,879
Speaker 2: then for you it delivered. But I think BC for me,

499
00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:01,920
Speaker 2: I'm just a little I'm just a little tired of

500
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:07,680
Speaker 2: being asked to view Jake's career through the aspirational story

501
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 2: that as like a prism by which you're always looking

502
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:11,960
Speaker 2: at it as like so, for example, they're I was like, oh,

503
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,680
Speaker 2: in twenty seventeen, you know, he was a Disney kid

504
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 2: and he came up good, and it's like, isn't it

505
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,760
Speaker 2: amazing he's here? And I'm like, guys, we are way

506
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 2: past that. We are way past this bullshit. We are

507
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,720
Speaker 2: way past the point. Or isn't it nifty that a

508
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:29,440
Speaker 2: guy who was doing vines and on Disney is now

509
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:31,879
Speaker 2: doing these big time boxing events. We're now at a

510
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:35,879
Speaker 2: stage where we're asking, yo, guy, can you fucking box

511
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:39,160
Speaker 2: a little? Because every time you don't take the right

512
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 2: kind of opponent. Yes, did he take a much tougher opponent, yes,

513
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 2: But as a consequence, he never had the initiative to

514
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:50,199
Speaker 2: offensively engage. That's not fixing the fucking problem. That's not

515
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:53,360
Speaker 2: fixing the problem. And there's this constant push to be like, oh,

516
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 2: well he got courage to go do that, dude. The

517
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 2: guys on Jackass have courage, right, they have tons of

518
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:02,159
Speaker 2: courage to go ride bulls or get shot out of

519
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:10,120
Speaker 2: a cannon orser. Yeah, yes, get knocked the fuck out

520
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 2: by the King of the four rounders, you know, at Ross,

521
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 2: dressed for less all that shit. It's not to say

522
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:17,119
Speaker 2: that that I would do that, but I'm you know

523
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 2: what I mean, like, I can understand why. Yes, there's

524
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 2: there some level of courage involved there, but that's not

525
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,639
Speaker 2: fucking skill. That's not fucking skill. That's not fucking skill.

526
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 2: And we are now at the stage of his development.

527
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:31,359
Speaker 2: We're asking, yo, what the fuck is there? What do

528
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 2: you have? Show us the cards and everything is sleight

529
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:39,479
Speaker 2: of hand. Everything is either sandbagging or you know, taking

530
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 2: something so ridiculously difficult that he can't even fight to

531
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 2: the what abilities he has. He's got more abilities that

532
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 2: he showed BC offensively, but he had to holster them

533
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 2: so he could be maximally defensive. This doesn't fucking fix

534
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,719
Speaker 2: the problem. This is not in any way a solution.

535
00:27:57,800 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 2: And people being like you got to give Jake credit,

536
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,680
Speaker 2: you have to give Jake credit for his boxing. No

537
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:04,919
Speaker 2: the fuck I don't know. The fuck I don't and

538
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,640
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna I'm not gonna do that shit because

539
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,120
Speaker 2: is he a little bit better than his critics suggests? BC?

540
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:12,119
Speaker 2: I think so. I think the evidence suggests he's a

541
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 2: little bit better than his critics suggests. But this bullshit

542
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,720
Speaker 2: about you know, he's the kid who came up great.

543
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 2: He just wants to go do well. Are aren't you

544
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 2: a hater? Great dude, he made a shit ton of money.

545
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:25,920
Speaker 2: If the critics bother you, go cry into your bags

546
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 2: of money. I'm sure it will find you some solace

547
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:32,120
Speaker 2: there if you want. The basic question is what kind

548
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,879
Speaker 2: of boxing is this and what level is this? And

549
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 2: they refuse to really ever answer that, which tells you

550
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 2: exactly what they're actually hiding from. Do not ask me

551
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 2: to give credit to Jake Paul's boxing, to his business acumen,

552
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 2: to a core product that delivers financial returns. They figured

553
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 2: it out, BC. But that's as far as I'm going

554
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 2: at this point.

555
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:55,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, I said after the Tyson fight

556
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 1: that I wondered if that would be a turning point

557
00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 1: where not crossover people because Jake still succeeds at building

558
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 1: a younger crossover audience for these, you know, viral type moments,

559
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 1: but just completely turn away the combat sports audience. And

560
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 1: apparently it hasn't. I mean, because people were entertained by this,

561
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 1: and a lot of people disagree with me, and that's fine,

562
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 1: but this is just it was shoddy. It brought embarrassment

563
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 1: to the sport in my opinion. And it's like, like

564
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 1: we say, like every credit I want to give to

565
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 1: Jake for having balls or a chin, I take away

566
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 1: for what he did. I mean, look, he actually landed

567
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 1: some interesting shots, you know, some like loopy trideans that

568
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 1: turned Joshua's chin, and it's like you want to almost

569
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 1: give him credit for that, but then he would follow

570
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 1: that up with diving at his legs, you know, fifty times.

571
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 1: It just beyond beyond pathetic in that regard. So let

572
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 1: me ask you this his produce, his co founder of

573
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 1: MVP Most Valuable Promotions, the Kisa Badari, and said after

574
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 1: the fight, while Jake was in route to the hospital,

575
00:29:55,440 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 1: that this fight was only won by size and if

576
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 1: they were the same side, Jake Paul, who would have won?

577
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 1: Your thoughts?

578
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 2: I mean, please, please, oh my god, dude, Like, I mean,

579
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 2: Nikisa and Jake must actually be some of the very

580
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:21,240
Speaker 2: best businessmen in the sport because they're managing to make

581
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:27,719
Speaker 2: incredible amounts of money and generate gobsmacking amounts of attention

582
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 2: on what is basically a dogshit product. I mean at

583
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 2: the end of the day, right, I mean that's not

584
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 2: entirely true. Sometimes there's a knockout delivery for example, BC. Again,

585
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 2: we will always give Jake credit on this show for

586
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 2: what he's doing for women's boxing, and you know, putting

587
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 2: Serrano Taylor on, you know as the Comaine to the

588
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 2: Tyson thing, this was a you know, I know that

589
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 2: that event didn't go off as planned because of technology issues,

590
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 2: but that was a home run for them, you know.

591
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 2: So it's not like he's not doing some good things.

592
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:58,000
Speaker 2: But like what they're selling to you ultimately is just

593
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 2: a product that cannot stand auditing. They are trying to

594
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 2: avoid auditing with every fiber of their being. They it's

595
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 2: the porridge BC, it's the Goldilocks thing. It is always

596
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 2: too cold or too hot. It is never right in

597
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 2: the middle where it is supposed to be, because that

598
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 2: would actually be the most undressing he could ever face.

599
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 2: If it's too easy of a task, you know, he'll

600
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 2: get rid of them. If it's too difficult of a task.

601
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 2: He has always this ability to be like, well, look

602
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 2: all these little sort of things that I did. And

603
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 2: again there were some things, as you indicated, BC. They

604
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 2: had that one overhand right that came that turned Joshua's head. Okay,

605
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 2: fair enough, nice shot. That was a great shot. And

606
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 2: you know, I'll give them credit for that. But those

607
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:46,479
Speaker 2: were absolutely few and far between. And the core question

608
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 2: of what kind of boxing is this? Let me see

609
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 2: this dude against any other cruiserweight who can go no

610
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 2: more than ten rounds, right, Because that's the level of

611
00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 2: development that we're at, and that is actually where all

612
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 2: of the truth lies. It lies in the most mundane,

613
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 2: ordinary standard know nothing placed. That's the beauty of boxing

614
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 2: actually is that these kinds of truths hide not necessarily

615
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 2: always in these elevated, you know, grand heights. No, Sometimes

616
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 2: they are hidden in the gym wars. Sometimes they are

617
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 2: hidden and whether you show up to practice. Sometimes they

618
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 2: are hidden in opponents that it may appear ordinary or

619
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 2: otherwise lack of claim, but they will audit your fucking ass.

620
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 2: And he refuses to engage in that which for the audience,

621
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 2: I hope that you can understand, tells you everything you

622
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 2: need to know.

623
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it is frustrating. Let's hear from the Kisabidarian,

624
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 1: who has more on his thoughts. After the fight, I thought.

625
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 8: It unbelievable, four weeks of preparation to take on one

626
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 8: of the greatest heavyweights of all time, the best heavyweight

627
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 8: of you know, of the past ten years, and he

628
00:32:58,160 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 8: hung in there for six rounds. And again I haven't

629
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 8: seen official scorecards, but on my unofficial scorecard, Jake won

630
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 8: at least two rounds.

631
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 2: I was standing in the shower with or next to him, he.

632
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 8: Was showering, and I said, tell me the truth, at

633
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 8: any point during the process where you misrepresenting the truth

634
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 8: that you thought you're gonna win. He's like, no, bro,

635
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 8: I thought for sure I was gonna win. I thought

636
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 8: I was gonna land a big one, and that was

637
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 8: all that was on my mind. And he knows what

638
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 8: I thought the whole time. I told him, it's an

639
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 8: extremely tough fight, very very very very.

640
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 1: High risk, but very very high reward. The best heavyweight

641
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 1: of the last ten years is It turns out it's

642
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 1: actually Alexander Husai Ku beat Joshua twice, but that's neither

643
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 1: here nor there. And we do have that other sound

644
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 1: that I did that I did tease. Here's Nikisa one

645
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 1: more time.

646
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 7: After the fight on Jake, When you look at his

647
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 7: performance and you think about what frankisan Ghana was able

648
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 7: to accomplish or how long he was able to.

649
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 2: Last against Anthony Joshua, what does it say about Jake Paul?

650
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 8: I think a great, great game plan and preparation, unbelievable

651
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 8: heart And the reality is Jake lost because of the

652
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 8: size difference, not because of the skill difference. AJ was

653
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 8: hanging on that neck, pushing him down, and when you

654
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:13,879
Speaker 8: have someone that heavy constantly doing that, it does suck

655
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 8: the energy out of you. AJ talked about sucking out

656
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 8: or taking out the man's soul. He didn't take out

657
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 8: his soul. He did take out his energy and that's

658
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 8: when he was able to get the finish.

659
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:27,799
Speaker 2: I mean, you just you just, I mean, you just

660
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 2: can't believe people will say things like that, stress like

661
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 2: the kelgy.

662
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:37,760
Speaker 1: He commended the strategy right there, God dang.

663
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,799
Speaker 2: BC, I mean you you know this as well as

664
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 2: I do. Part of skill is how you use your

665
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,840
Speaker 2: forearm pressure down on what it was essentially like the

666
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 2: boxing equivalent of a collar tie to work out the

667
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:52,840
Speaker 2: lower back. It's what wrestlers do when they're constantly pulling

668
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 2: on the part of that is skill in understanding these

669
00:34:55,680 --> 00:35:00,400
Speaker 2: positions as well. Now, yes, did AJBC have, except for speed,

670
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:04,799
Speaker 2: basically every physical advantage over Jick Paul. Yes, Jake was

671
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:08,399
Speaker 2: fighting a very, very unwinnable task. And I'll say this too.

672
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:10,800
Speaker 2: You know, getting your jaw broken in two places cannot

673
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 2: be easy. Honestly, he got off a little lucky. That

674
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 2: could have been much worse. I mean that, that's the

675
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:19,319
Speaker 2: fact that it was only that is that, you know.

676
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:21,399
Speaker 2: And Jack Paul appears to have a chin too, I'll

677
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:24,320
Speaker 2: give him credit for that. But this idea that the

678
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 2: like a pound for pound, there's no skill difference, Oh

679
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 2: my fucking god, this is absolute lunacy at the highest level.

680
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 1: The cadence of his voice kind of sounded like vanilla

681
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 1: ice when he was like, no, it was ding ding

682
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,839
Speaker 1: ding did ding ding, that was what ours was. That's

683
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 1: what it kind of sounded like. I mean, good lord, uh,

684
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 1: we've got one more bit of sound to react to.

685
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 1: And it is the comedic genius known as you're defending

686
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:54,319
Speaker 1: welterweight title holder Rolando Roley Romero. I can't wait to

687
00:35:54,320 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 1: hear this. Let's go incredible, right, and he kept taking

688
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 1: the right hands and left Look, what did you think

689
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:04,759
Speaker 1: you can't take?

690
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:08,359
Speaker 2: Gave on? You gotta give him a lot of respect, right,

691
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 2: slipping in there against the two times heavyweight.

692
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:11,400
Speaker 9: Ten for.

693
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 6: Get gosh, I yeah, I'm not good.

694
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:17,759
Speaker 2: Did you see it like ending? Like the way it

695
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:18,280
Speaker 2: was going?

696
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:23,280
Speaker 10: Man a punchet brot, crazy clutching mask.

697
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:26,800
Speaker 1: He not in weight class.

698
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:29,719
Speaker 2: I was gonna say he landed that right hand flush

699
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 2: and it didn't seem to do anything.

700
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 1: Not in class, right.

701
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:35,959
Speaker 2: So what's what's next is the keep fighting? He didn't

702
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 2: it well enough to keep fighting.

703
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:41,399
Speaker 1: I want to be jap mine there again. You want

704
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 1: to see him again?

705
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 6: Hello him, and I'm trying to take him a little while.

706
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 1: You guys don't get take falling up trading bro I mean, yeah,

707
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:54,800
Speaker 1: he's got balls, but he's got balls like even Evil

708
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 1: riding a motorcycle across the Canyon of Snake can't like you.

709
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 1: He's got those type of balls. But look to close

710
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 1: on this, do you agree or disagree with me. Let

711
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:09,360
Speaker 1: me remember the Mike Tyson fight was against a middle

712
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:11,359
Speaker 1: aged man and they did two minute rounds. They changed

713
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,840
Speaker 1: the glove size, they did a lot of things. Should

714
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 1: these things be exhibitions? If you're going to try to

715
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 1: do like a lightweight one fight at a heavyweight the

716
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 1: next fight, like if you just categorize that as that,

717
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 1: I'd leave it alone. I wouldn't talk about it.

718
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:33,360
Speaker 2: They probably should be exhibitions. That is, in general, I

719
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 2: think what they should be. I can see some cases

720
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 2: where they shouldn't be, but more often than not, I

721
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 2: suppose that they should. But I think that the networks

722
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 2: are less interested in that in most cases. I just

723
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 2: feel like I want to say one thing about this.

724
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 2: We are living at a time more broadly, where people

725
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 2: in various sectors or industries who have skill but do

726
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 2: not necessarily have the ability to generate large audiences on

727
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:06,319
Speaker 2: their own are being supplanted or at bare minimum having

728
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:09,959
Speaker 2: to compete with people in the same industry who don't

729
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 2: have the same level of ability but have a much

730
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:15,319
Speaker 2: better ability to generate audiences. And whatever this may be.

731
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 2: This can be in media careers, this can be in

732
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:20,400
Speaker 2: even boxing careers. In this particular case, and it's this

733
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 2: thing where we're being treated less and less to the

734
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:28,279
Speaker 2: kind of showcasing of skill that was originally intended through

735
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 2: the practice, and instead it's being replaced with people who

736
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 2: have this incredible ability to generate audience attention. And there

737
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:37,720
Speaker 2: is no denying that Jake Paul is actually very gifted.

738
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:41,360
Speaker 2: I mean, as a promoter, he's good at this, right.

739
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 2: This is sort of the funny thing. They keep wanting

740
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 2: credit for things where they're not actually delivering, but where

741
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:50,719
Speaker 2: they are delivering, it's not nearly as focused on and

742
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 2: where he can deliver is he is a very good

743
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:56,320
Speaker 2: self marketer and a marketer more broadly for his effort.

744
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 2: He is very skill at this, and I think you

745
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 2: should give him. Everyone recognize this fact. B see. But

746
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 2: in this moment in time where the thing that actually

747
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 2: matters and what we're all historically basing our understanding of

748
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:12,399
Speaker 2: what this practice is, that's being turned on its head

749
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 2: for a lesser version of itself. And I think we're

750
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,359
Speaker 2: all culturally, and I mean this, I think we're all

751
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:19,880
Speaker 2: culturally a lot poorer as a consequence.

752
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I fully agree with that. Poorer in spirit

753
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 1: and soul after this, But I guess at the end

754
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 1: of the day, it's just a stupid fight. Let's go

755
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 1: to topic number two and we'll keep talking about this

756
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 1: stupid fighter at least what comes next, because like it

757
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 1: or not, Jake Paul said after the bout that he

758
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:41,760
Speaker 1: wants to continue chasing a cruiserweight title, that he absolutely

759
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,839
Speaker 1: will continue fighting. Obviously, is going to be out a while.

760
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 1: He can only eat liquids as his broken jaw in

761
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:51,800
Speaker 1: two places gets healed, So there will be more Jake Paul.

762
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:55,880
Speaker 1: But is there any Jake Paul opponent he could book

763
00:39:56,520 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 1: that could make you want to tune in and about

764
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:04,439
Speaker 1: with fellow Anthony Joshua, Victim Francis and Gano who, as

765
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 1: we reported as we reacted to leading up to this fight,

766
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:11,959
Speaker 1: he reported himself that he turned down that offer. Does

767
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 1: Jake and Ganoh make sense? Is that the only fight? Luke?

768
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 1: Where do you stand on if Jake fights this person? Yeah,

769
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 1: I'll watch it and talk about it. I'll care.

770
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 2: You have to ask yourself a really basic question, I

771
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 2: think with all of this, which is irrespective of how

772
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 2: you might feel or irrespective of how I might feel,

773
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:42,359
Speaker 2: is there a spinnable path for Jake going forward. Now

774
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 2: we've not seen the ratings for this event, so I

775
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:48,720
Speaker 2: do think that that will have a pretty important impact

776
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 2: on ultimately what Netflix does, or what Jake Paul does,

777
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:55,239
Speaker 2: or how this all works out. I do suspect, to

778
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 2: me see that it made a big splash. I had

779
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:00,840
Speaker 2: several in laws last night asking me about that. Now,

780
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 2: all of their questions were this YouTuber, why was he

781
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 2: flopping to his knees? And I'm like, well, that's a

782
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:09,880
Speaker 2: great question. I don't know what to tell you in

783
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,720
Speaker 2: this particular case, though, if we're doing an honest reading,

784
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 2: it does appear to me that this made an impact.

785
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 2: And if it made an impact, and there is a

786
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 2: spinnable path forward, like, is there another way to recreate

787
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 2: something commensurate with this experience with another opponent? Of course,

788
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:28,880
Speaker 2: there's going to be another version of this, whether we

789
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 2: like it or whether we don't. Now I don't know

790
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:35,360
Speaker 2: exactly who that might be. It seems to me that

791
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:39,359
Speaker 2: the best possible case, just reading the landscape here is

792
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 2: Francis Enganu, both aj opponents. They nearly made this fight

793
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:47,320
Speaker 2: Hello to begin with. It is a doable fight. In

794
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 2: other words, Francis is not under any kind of that

795
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 2: we think that we know of any kind of contractual

796
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 2: restrictions that prevent him from participating. And of course Shake

797
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 2: is his own man and can do what he wants, right,

798
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 2: So again credit to him. The guy knows that to

799
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:04,360
Speaker 2: do business. I'll say that. And I the question you

800
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 2: have to ask yourself VC is would there be interested

801
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 2: in this? I don't know if Netflix would want it exactly.

802
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 2: It's a little harder to say that because I don't know.

803
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:18,400
Speaker 2: But do I think that it satisfies most of the

804
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:22,879
Speaker 2: criteria of what they appear to value in the end,

805
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 2: And I do think that it does. I do think

806
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 2: that it does. Maybe you disagree, But whether we like

807
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:31,799
Speaker 2: it or not, be c He's going to be back

808
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 2: at this trough again, and it's a question of how

809
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 2: we want to cover it going forward.

810
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess what I'm saying is I'm done with

811
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 1: the like. You know, do I want to see him

812
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:45,799
Speaker 1: against Ravonte Davis or Ryan Garcia or Terrence Crawford. No,

813
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,279
Speaker 1: I don't want any more of this bullshit. If he

814
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 1: wants to take potentially competitive fights, or if he wants to,

815
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 1: you know, use this platform to climb the ladder and

816
00:42:55,640 --> 00:43:00,040
Speaker 1: become legitimate quote unquote, are there certain stops that I

817
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:03,400
Speaker 1: would tune into. Yeah, Like I'd watch it Tommy Fury rematch.

818
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:05,880
Speaker 1: That first fight was close. I won't say it was

819
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,360
Speaker 1: good fight, but it was close. There's a built in

820
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 1: rivalry there you get if you do it off of

821
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 1: us soil, you get John Fury Entyson involved right there.

822
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:17,799
Speaker 1: I have no want for KSI or any other influencer

823
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 1: versus influencer one. I certainly don't want him against Andrew

824
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:25,919
Speaker 1: Tayt or anything further down the food chain in terms

825
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 1: of combat sports. But it's like, would there still be

826
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 1: an appetite for him against McGregor or if that was

827
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:35,240
Speaker 1: ever possible. Yeah, yeah, I guess there is In Ghana,

828
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:38,759
Speaker 1: I think is still the perfect fight, even with this

829
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 1: Joshua kind of fight kind of muddying the waters a bit.

830
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 1: To me, it's still the boss at the end of

831
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:45,399
Speaker 1: the video game. Because none of us look at Jake

832
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 1: as an actual legitimate contending fighter. We look at him

833
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:53,880
Speaker 1: as the most talented and the star of the celebrity

834
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 1: boxing crossover, and that's where Frances and Ghana lives. That is,

835
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:03,320
Speaker 1: I mean, he got absolutely destroyed by Anthony Joshua, mostly

836
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 1: because he came to fight and came to win against Joshua,

837
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 1: and then quickly we saw the difference in skill and

838
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 1: experience between the two. I think if you're talking about

839
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:14,439
Speaker 1: an Inhanu fight, you're still going to satisfy that side

840
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 1: of the audience that believes Jake doesn't belong in there,

841
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:21,319
Speaker 1: along with the side that likes Jake and is thinking, Look,

842
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 1: I've seen in Ghanu get knocked out. I think Jake

843
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 1: could be in there if Jake goes in there to

844
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:31,239
Speaker 1: actually fight, to box to win. Yeah, it's morbidly interesting

845
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 1: that fight. We do have some sound here from Anthony

846
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:38,479
Speaker 1: Joshua after the bout. I'm the difference between fighting one

847
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 1: Francis and Ganu and Jake.

848
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 11: Paul both good, both have heart. It takes a lot

849
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 11: that ring walk. Obviously a thousand fighters have done it

850
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 11: before me.

851
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:50,279
Speaker 2: But it's a.

852
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 11: Imagine sleeping the night before a big fight and then

853
00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:59,319
Speaker 11: you wake up in the morning and you're waiting for

854
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 11: that moment when it's time to leave, you get to

855
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 11: the change room, you make that walk. I take my

856
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 11: heart off to Francis and Garni because he's ult only

857
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:09,880
Speaker 11: an MMA fighter, and he crossed over into boxing twice.

858
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 11: He beat up Tyson Fury and then had a short

859
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:17,800
Speaker 11: fight with me, but he walked in that ring twice.

860
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 11: Credit him then, Jake Paul, who has been boxing now

861
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:25,440
Speaker 11: for five or so years at an elite level. The

862
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 11: amount of pressure that's been put on his shoulders and

863
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 11: he's lived up to that pressure. I'm not going to

864
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 11: say that they're world class because in our modern day era,

865
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 11: there's maybe four or five six seven antiw Joshuas that

866
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 11: can punch, that can avoid punches, that know what they're

867
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:42,799
Speaker 11: doing in the ring.

868
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:44,400
Speaker 2: So Jake will struggle at.

869
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 11: Top level, but he has a place in boxing if

870
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 11: he wants to stay, in my opinion, so credit him

871
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 11: and his team for getting him this far.

872
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 1: So look, I will say this about Jake if the

873
00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:59,799
Speaker 1: we identified this coming in that we believe there was

874
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:02,839
Speaker 1: sure from you know, Mike Coppinger reported that the Netflix

875
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 1: after Tank pulled, after they pulled Tank out, they gave

876
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 1: him a list of three names that he had to

877
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 1: pick from. We know what. He also reached out to

878
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 1: Anghanu if the idea, if the real goal here for

879
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 1: Jake was not only survival but to prove to Netflix

880
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:19,839
Speaker 1: that he can continue to do this, create a big spectacle,

881
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 1: get people talking about it with polarized reactions, get us

882
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:26,279
Speaker 1: opening the first hour of this damn show about it.

883
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:30,279
Speaker 1: Then that was a success. I believe a Jake versus

884
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 1: in Ghanu fight is a Netflix fight. But do you

885
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:37,399
Speaker 1: agree that Jake is going to repeatedly hit this crossroads?

886
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 1: Whereas much as I'd like to see him rematch Tommy Fury,

887
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:43,799
Speaker 1: I don't think that's a Netflix fight at all. Could

888
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 1: Jake do his own pay per view like he's done

889
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 1: in the past, Sure, but pay per view's dying. You

890
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 1: really can't make a lot of money off of that

891
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:54,360
Speaker 1: comparatively to what you used to Netflix is the big

892
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 1: time money payer. Jake being on Netflix makes his promotion

893
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 1: very relevant in the larger scheme of boxing. How many

894
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:08,400
Speaker 1: available opponents do you think are Netflix worthy? And would

895
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:11,319
Speaker 1: he need to continue to tap into the Ryan Garcias

896
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:14,400
Speaker 1: and the Tank davis Is to keep that relationship going.

897
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 2: Yes, when he was doing in a different I mean

898
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 2: kind of, I mean twenty twenty one BC feels like

899
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:25,279
Speaker 2: forever ago. To be honest with you, you know, back then,

900
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:28,879
Speaker 2: you know a name like Jorge Masbadal and of course

901
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 2: he eventually fought Na Diaz or you know something like

902
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 2: that with aging MMA name. It made a lot of

903
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 2: sense at that time, but those times are over. Like,

904
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 2: I don't know how many times you can go back

905
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:39,880
Speaker 2: to the well. It does not appear to be, in

906
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:44,399
Speaker 2: my estimation, a great appetite for a Daz rematch, whether

907
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 2: you can put it on pay per view or Netflix.

908
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 2: To be honest with you, I don't really know where

909
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 2: that would go. So I mean, just this is the thing, dude.

910
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 2: When I was trying to explain this to my in

911
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:57,879
Speaker 2: laws last night, every sports entity are every broadcaster, let's

912
00:47:57,880 --> 00:47:59,879
Speaker 2: say BC, you know how it goes. For example, Para

913
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 2: in UFC, Paramount is paying for you know, thirty fight

914
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 2: nights and they're paying for the thirteen pls or whatever

915
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 2: the numbered events, right, and they're gonna do that every

916
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 2: year for seven years in addition to ZUFA boxing. But

917
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 2: like you know, hey, we're gonna take the slate of

918
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 2: your calendar and we're just gonna air the whole thing.

919
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 2: And that's how business for the most part. You know,

920
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:21,800
Speaker 2: sometimes NBA will split it up a little bit and

921
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 2: the NFL will split it up a little bit. But

922
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:27,319
Speaker 2: they have these broadcast arrangements that they go through and

923
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:29,799
Speaker 2: Netflix is like, we're just not doing that, Like, we're

924
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 2: just not doing that. What we're gonna do is we're

925
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:34,959
Speaker 2: gonna pick and choose the individual games that we want

926
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 2: and the individual events that we want. And so, dude,

927
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 2: look at their esthetic about what they want. Now, I

928
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:43,840
Speaker 2: want to say, I think Netflix is like how it

929
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:48,640
Speaker 2: looks on TVBC. I think it looks fucking awesome. That

930
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 2: ring walk when they come out. He was just talking

931
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:52,880
Speaker 2: about that ring walk when he comes out BC, where

932
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 2: it's you know there it's all lit behind them and

933
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 2: then on their feet and then to the sides, it's

934
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:03,440
Speaker 2: all Dude, that shit rules. It looked incredible. But their

935
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 2: sense of matchmaking BC is totally divorced from anything we

936
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 2: understand as traditional matchmaking. Even at the margin cases, you know,

937
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 2: they're they're just like, hey, is that a name? And

938
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:20,359
Speaker 2: is that a name? Put him together? I do think

939
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 2: I agree with you could Francis satisfy that. I do

940
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 2: think that he could. So I do think he would be,

941
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 2: you know, for what they want. But this is what

942
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 2: I mean, like, oh we want, we want Jake to

943
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:33,200
Speaker 2: do X we want Jake to do why But Jake

944
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 2: is in the business again, a very lucrative business. But

945
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 2: he is in the business BC of doing none of that.

946
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:42,759
Speaker 2: It's not about any of that. This is why it's like,

947
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:44,880
Speaker 2: if you want to give this guy credit for generating

948
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 2: massive audiences, big paydays, a lot of attention for boxing,

949
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:50,840
Speaker 2: and a lot of stuff for women's boxing, you can't

950
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:54,719
Speaker 2: deny him this. The evidence is overwhelming. But all of

951
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:58,440
Speaker 2: that is in service in circumvention of traditional standards of

952
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 2: quality control, and they can't escape that until they confront

953
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 2: it head on. But Netflix's i think own matchmaking preferences.

954
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:10,279
Speaker 2: BC won't allow Jake to even explore something like that.

955
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 1: I mean, it's the same thing. And that's probably the

956
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 1: biggest issue when people say, why don't you climb the

957
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:19,319
Speaker 1: ladder and face ranks cruiserweights, because nobody would care about

958
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:21,720
Speaker 1: any of those fights. I mean, even if he fought

959
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 1: unified cruiserweight champion Zero Ramirez, I'm not even sure that's

960
00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:28,920
Speaker 1: a Netflix fight, Luke. I'm not even sure like the

961
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:31,480
Speaker 1: public would care on the same level that they would

962
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 1: with more celebrity names. So it's sort of officially the

963
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 1: business he's in and look, Netflix is the highest end,

964
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:40,719
Speaker 1: so that's going to be the way he's going to

965
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 1: cash in and continue to compete and continue to give

966
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:47,440
Speaker 1: the fighters under his promotion, you know, a platform this big. Oh,

967
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 1: let's go to topic number three and let's talk Anthony Joshua.

968
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:51,279
Speaker 4: Uh.

969
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 1: The question here is this, in his last few fights,

970
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 1: there's Ben and Francis and Ganu, now Jake Paul. There's

971
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 1: some rumors right he was aerialt some big announcement that

972
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:04,760
Speaker 1: didn't happen, but they did ask at the press conference

973
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:08,840
Speaker 1: afterwards as a fight against kickboxing champion Rico Verhouven. On

974
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:13,759
Speaker 1: the horizon is Anthony Joshua at thirty six as we're

975
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:18,439
Speaker 1: building toward this big Tyson Fury showdown, sort of simultaneously

976
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 1: risking being considered an unserious fighter by this level of

977
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:26,320
Speaker 1: pro matchmaking. While we definitely want to see him against

978
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:28,759
Speaker 1: Tyson Fury, that seems to be two fights away that

979
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 1: Turkey and company are pushing that off to build to it.

980
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 1: So does it appear to you that Joshua is otherwise

981
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 1: done taking difficult fights against elite contenders and that maybe

982
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 1: he's setting up this Joshua showdown to be the big

983
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:46,360
Speaker 1: cash out to end his career. I'm sorry. The Fury one.

984
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 2: BC pop quiz for you. This should be an easy one.

985
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:55,839
Speaker 2: Since December of twenty twenty three, what boxer has AJ beaton.

986
00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:08,719
Speaker 1: December of twenty three Jermaine Franklin. Maybe nobody out Nobody, nobody.

987
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 2: He's only beaten Jake Paul and Francis and Ganu. Now,

988
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 2: he did fight Daniel Dubois, which didn't go well. But

989
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:18,840
Speaker 2: Dubois really good. So again, not like he lost to

990
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:22,760
Speaker 2: some chump. He lost to a really good fighter. Yeah, exactly,

991
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 2: I mean totally it was he. I don't think AJ

992
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:29,759
Speaker 2: fought particularly well in that contest. But you know, this

993
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:31,879
Speaker 2: is a very very legitimate opponent and a very high

994
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:36,600
Speaker 2: stakes about okay, if they go with the vere Hooven route.

995
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:39,799
Speaker 2: I mean, I have mixed feelings on this PC and

996
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:42,800
Speaker 2: I'll tell you why. It's like, as long as Usik

997
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:47,880
Speaker 2: is there and before Father Time gets usick, He's just

998
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 2: not going to win a title. It's just not going

999
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 2: to happen, right, And I don't is there any even

1000
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:54,200
Speaker 2: any appetite for a third Usik fight if that was

1001
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:57,160
Speaker 2: like on the table, I don't think so I don't

1002
00:52:57,160 --> 00:52:58,839
Speaker 2: think that it would be. So you're in a place

1003
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 2: where you're like, well, what can I do now? The

1004
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 2: Fury fight is big and a legitimate fight, and you

1005
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:05,960
Speaker 2: could say it's not happening when it should have happened.

1006
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:08,759
Speaker 2: It's a little bit past the sell by date. This

1007
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 2: might be true, but I still think it'd be big

1008
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:13,719
Speaker 2: globally and certainly would be a very big event in

1009
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:16,279
Speaker 2: UK boxing. And for that reason I think that that

1010
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:18,959
Speaker 2: we should all hope that it happens, and probably it will.

1011
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:21,800
Speaker 2: But if you're looking at age day, I'm not saying

1012
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:24,880
Speaker 2: he's completely dumb, but one more point, I'm gonna go

1013
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:28,360
Speaker 2: over here. A lot of people are putting the blame

1014
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 2: for what went wrong on Saturday on Jake Paul with

1015
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:34,279
Speaker 2: good reason, as we've indicated any number of things you

1016
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 2: can point to, the flopping to his knees, the no

1017
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:41,359
Speaker 2: really ability to offensively engage, like all of these things

1018
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:44,879
Speaker 2: are are a problem. But dude, the reality is Aj

1019
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 2: didn't look great either. I understand he was taking his

1020
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:50,719
Speaker 2: time and he didn't necessarily could he have put his

1021
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:53,279
Speaker 2: foot on the gas you see and ended that earlier, Yes,

1022
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 2: of course he could have, But He also looked to

1023
00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:58,799
Speaker 2: me like, after fifteen months off, no need to risk it.

1024
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:01,160
Speaker 2: This guy's gonna work, you know, run himself out of gas,

1025
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:03,240
Speaker 2: and as soon as he gets even a little bit slower,

1026
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 2: it's curtains for him, which is exactly what happened. So

1027
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 2: I understand it. But he looked to me like a

1028
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 2: little bit you know, on the hesitant side of things,

1029
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:13,840
Speaker 2: just as a way to play it safe given some

1030
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 2: of the stakes and the inevitability of what was to happen.

1031
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 2: You combine that with the fact that now Usik is

1032
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 2: as long as he's there, I don't know what path

1033
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 2: he has forward. You got one big ass fight there

1034
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:26,520
Speaker 2: against Fury. You could make a Wilder fight BC, and

1035
00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:28,799
Speaker 2: there's some other big fights he could make. He could

1036
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:31,799
Speaker 2: fight other big names at heavyweight. But BC, if you're

1037
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:36,319
Speaker 2: making forty fifty million dollars to fight in Ganu or

1038
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:39,399
Speaker 2: Jake Paul or now Riko Verhouven, you know you can't

1039
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:41,719
Speaker 2: get back to the title and you probably have some

1040
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:46,120
Speaker 2: sense internally that you're not at your best anymore. Is

1041
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:49,280
Speaker 2: it really look at the incentives in place, why would

1042
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 2: he not do something like that? I mean, I'm not

1043
00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:54,440
Speaker 2: saying that's what I want. I would like for him

1044
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:56,920
Speaker 2: to pursue the most legitimate fights available to him with

1045
00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 2: a time he has remaining in his career. But I'm

1046
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:01,760
Speaker 2: just saying, if you just add up all the factors

1047
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:04,480
Speaker 2: that are out there, BCEE him making a turn in

1048
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:08,880
Speaker 2: this direction while making the kind of money he's making,

1049
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:14,080
Speaker 2: it honestly does make rational sense given the incentives in place.

1050
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:15,719
Speaker 2: I think that's the kind of problem that I have.

1051
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:18,000
Speaker 1: I think you're one hundred percent right, and that echoes

1052
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 1: back to why I really hate these being official fights.

1053
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:24,200
Speaker 1: And yes, now it's starting to paint the idea that

1054
00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:27,440
Speaker 1: maybe aj is looking at the Fury pay day as

1055
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:29,520
Speaker 1: the last big challenge to let me close out my

1056
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:32,280
Speaker 1: career with the big fight, the biggest fight in English

1057
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:35,759
Speaker 1: boxing history that never happened yet but should have. I

1058
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:38,520
Speaker 1: just want nothing to do with him against Verhoven, just

1059
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:40,360
Speaker 1: like I didn't want anything to do with this fight.

1060
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:43,600
Speaker 1: The Angano one was a little bit different. Obviously, you know,

1061
00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:46,279
Speaker 1: we all didn't love and Ganu fighting Fury at the

1062
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:48,840
Speaker 1: time that they did because Fury was setting up for

1063
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:51,640
Speaker 1: the two big Usik fights. But at least in Ghanuh

1064
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:54,160
Speaker 1: got himself another payday, and it was going to be

1065
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:56,839
Speaker 1: really hard coming into that AJ fight to even try

1066
00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:59,240
Speaker 1: to figure out how good Francis was and the chances

1067
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:02,400
Speaker 1: he would have. But the biggest reason why I hated

1068
00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:04,880
Speaker 1: this event and hated it being an official fight in

1069
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:07,040
Speaker 1: part because it gives people a way to look at

1070
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:10,560
Speaker 1: it and go, oh my god, look AJ's washed, he's trash.

1071
00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:12,560
Speaker 1: I just think he didn't try that hard. Look, I

1072
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:14,920
Speaker 1: just think you're right. He waited for him to get exhausted,

1073
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:19,280
Speaker 1: but ultimately associating himself with this it makes him look bad.

1074
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:22,360
Speaker 1: Let's hear from his promoter, Eddie Hearn on the idea

1075
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:24,600
Speaker 1: of potentially fighting Rico Verhoven.

1076
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 2: A question for you, Eddie.

1077
00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:28,600
Speaker 12: There's actually been some rumors around the circuit this week

1078
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 12: that there's a fight for AJ in February next year

1079
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:33,760
Speaker 12: against the kickboxing champion Rikov and Hoven.

1080
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:35,279
Speaker 2: Is there any legs to that.

1081
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:38,640
Speaker 6: No, we've been talking about a possible fight with Turkela Shaik.

1082
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:42,759
Speaker 6: A couple of opponents mentioned the biggest challenge now, as

1083
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:47,239
Speaker 6: you know, Aj said it's eight weeks tonight. You know

1084
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:49,560
Speaker 6: he had a very tough camp eight or nine weeks

1085
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:52,839
Speaker 6: with a new team who gave him a good working over,

1086
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:55,880
Speaker 6: So we will sit down with that team and talk

1087
00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:58,719
Speaker 6: about when he will be ready to return. So in

1088
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:02,480
Speaker 6: an ideal world, that would be the time, but we're

1089
00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:06,520
Speaker 6: going to see when he's ready, Rico, whoever it is.

1090
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:11,120
Speaker 6: We haven't finalized that yet, but the date really is

1091
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 6: what we're going to work on over the next four

1092
00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 6: or five six days, because we're not going to rush

1093
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:17,160
Speaker 6: him back if he's not quite ready.

1094
00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:18,360
Speaker 2: But it won't be long.

1095
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:20,840
Speaker 6: And the plan is to fight in the spring and

1096
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 6: then obviously fight Tyson Fury AJJ.

1097
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:26,080
Speaker 12: If you had it your way, would you just go

1098
00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 12: into fight Tyson next or would you like one more?

1099
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:28,960
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1100
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:34,680
Speaker 11: I would, I would, I would.

1101
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:38,040
Speaker 6: We can do that, by the way, straight away, no

1102
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:42,600
Speaker 6: interim fights. If Tyson's ready and AJ's ready, we don't

1103
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:44,280
Speaker 6: have to fight in February or March.

1104
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:45,960
Speaker 4: I think he's he's saying.

1105
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:50,920
Speaker 11: Eight weeks twenty four hours to sign a contract.

1106
00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:54,640
Speaker 4: Let's see if he's a man.

1107
00:57:56,440 --> 00:58:06,600
Speaker 1: Aj Reid here, dude, I agree, I mean, we all agree.

1108
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:08,920
Speaker 1: Let's go right into that fight right now. Although this

1109
00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:11,360
Speaker 1: is Joshua getting used to his new team, which is

1110
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:16,120
Speaker 1: Alexander Ussik's trainers and team right there, Luke, I would

1111
00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:18,840
Speaker 1: much rather see Aj if he needs a setup fighter,

1112
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:21,520
Speaker 1: or if Turkey would prefer that to build toward it.

1113
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:24,640
Speaker 1: Put him in there with the Jared Anderson, a Martin Bacoli,

1114
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 1: even Big Baby No, not Big Baby Miller. But you

1115
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:30,360
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, like, give me a guy who

1116
00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:33,800
Speaker 1: you're like, Okay, if AJ's not great, he could if

1117
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:36,840
Speaker 1: he's not, if he's not good anymore, that guy you know,

1118
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:39,000
Speaker 1: could or should expose it. Not that you want to

1119
00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:43,240
Speaker 1: see a marination situation where someone loses leading in This

1120
00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:45,280
Speaker 1: isn't This wouldn't be a title fight with Fury, But

1121
00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:48,280
Speaker 1: like I would want to feel like AJ still cares,

1122
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:50,840
Speaker 1: like he still wants to get a couple more names

1123
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:58,800
Speaker 1: on his resume. Right are you still there? Are you frozen?

1124
00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:00,680
Speaker 1: Let it go?

1125
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:02,680
Speaker 4: I think he's frozen.

1126
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:08,640
Speaker 1: He getting contued right there as we let him. Fo thaw,

1127
00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:11,520
Speaker 1: excuse me as Luke Thaws. Let's throw to the video

1128
00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:13,800
Speaker 1: once more to put a bow on this discussion of

1129
00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:17,280
Speaker 1: Joshua looking back at his performance with the regrets he

1130
00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:18,120
Speaker 1: has about this Drake.

1131
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:20,200
Speaker 11: But I wish that I could have knocked him out

1132
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:24,840
Speaker 11: at the start. But has been As we saw tonight,

1133
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:30,760
Speaker 11: Jake has spirit, he has some harm. He tried his best,

1134
00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:34,320
Speaker 11: and I take my house to him because number one,

1135
00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:36,680
Speaker 11: a lot of fighters haven't got in the ring with me,

1136
00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:41,160
Speaker 11: and Jake did. And secondly, even when he got knocked down,

1137
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 11: he kept on trying to get up, and I take

1138
00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:46,960
Speaker 11: my health to him. So America, I think you have

1139
00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:50,480
Speaker 11: someone who could potentially, if he still has the heart

1140
00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:52,960
Speaker 11: for it, come back again, dust this, you know, dust

1141
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:56,120
Speaker 11: the dirt off his shoulder, and come again and maybe

1142
00:59:56,200 --> 00:59:59,600
Speaker 11: set out this center sometime in twenty twenty six, maybe

1143
00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:07,240
Speaker 11: against a Jeavonte Davis, Ryan Garcia, who knows.

1144
01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:08,400
Speaker 1: As we will as we get Luke back hooked up.

1145
01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:10,240
Speaker 1: I just want nothing to do with those type of

1146
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:13,040
Speaker 1: bullshit fights. Same thing, even with Canelo getting a shot

1147
01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:16,600
Speaker 1: at Jake. It makes these guys unserious in the twilights

1148
01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:18,440
Speaker 1: of their career. I'm not saying they can't make money,

1149
01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:21,400
Speaker 1: but it's sort of one or the other. To me,

1150
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:24,480
Speaker 1: it's either an exhibition you're going down the money entertainment path,

1151
01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:29,320
Speaker 1: or you're angling back into title position, building yourself up

1152
01:00:29,320 --> 01:00:32,360
Speaker 1: for big fights. And I don't feel like that's necessarily

1153
01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:34,800
Speaker 1: the case for Joshua right now. I hope Canelo doesn't

1154
01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:38,560
Speaker 1: take that turn after losing to Crawford. Luke Thomas, we

1155
01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:45,120
Speaker 1: see you do we have you?

1156
01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:45,320
Speaker 2: No?

1157
01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:48,880
Speaker 1: All right, well LT, come in LT.

1158
01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:50,840
Speaker 4: He looked good right before that. I thought it was

1159
01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:51,160
Speaker 4: gonna be.

1160
01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:53,240
Speaker 1: Are you talking about like, you know, the health in

1161
01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:55,720
Speaker 1: his face, his skin tone. Is that what you're talking about?

1162
01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:56,040
Speaker 13: Yes?

1163
01:00:56,080 --> 01:00:58,040
Speaker 2: I hear you? Now, sorry about that? What happens?

1164
01:00:58,080 --> 01:01:00,960
Speaker 1: Okay? All right, LT. If you can hear me, we're

1165
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:05,040
Speaker 1: gonna transition out a topic number four. Let's talk about

1166
01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:08,440
Speaker 1: that Jake Paul undercard as well as the Netfolk Flicks

1167
01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:11,560
Speaker 1: component here. It wasn't the co main event, but it

1168
01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:13,880
Speaker 1: definitely drew a big interest on the MMA side as

1169
01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:17,760
Speaker 1: fifty year old Anderson Silva jumped in there with forty

1170
01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:21,520
Speaker 1: three year old Tyron Woodley did some Roy Jones tribute

1171
01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:25,840
Speaker 1: of tapping the ankle, teased, fainted the left cross, came

1172
01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:29,680
Speaker 1: up with the right uppercut, delivered yet another highlight real

1173
01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:33,680
Speaker 1: moment as he dropped Tyron Woodley, Woodley would stand the

1174
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:36,400
Speaker 1: corner would eventually stop it as the referee was looking

1175
01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:39,600
Speaker 1: into Woodley's eyes. If you recall the referee urged Woodley

1176
01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:42,760
Speaker 1: forward and he wanted to come forward. He was definitely concussed.

1177
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:46,000
Speaker 1: It seemed it looked like Silva's still got it in

1178
01:01:46,040 --> 01:01:49,640
Speaker 1: this boxing crossover. Was this the feel good moment of

1179
01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:52,600
Speaker 1: the weekend in your eyes? For MMA fans, Luke, to

1180
01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:58,160
Speaker 1: see Anderson Silva in this setting once again create memories?

1181
01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:06,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, we finish your question one more time. BC. I'm

1182
01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:07,600
Speaker 2: sorry you cut out right at the end.

1183
01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:10,160
Speaker 1: How much of a feel good moment was it to

1184
01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:14,240
Speaker 1: see fifty year old Anderson Silva deliver this No?

1185
01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:15,440
Speaker 2: Can hear me?

1186
01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:15,520
Speaker 11: No?

1187
01:02:15,640 --> 01:02:15,840
Speaker 2: Yes?

1188
01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:17,000
Speaker 11: No?

1189
01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:21,600
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, okay, okay, sorry about that. I apologize, okay

1190
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:25,120
Speaker 2: very quickly. It felt incredible. It felt incredible to see

1191
01:02:25,120 --> 01:02:27,760
Speaker 2: a guy who used all kinds of tricks where he

1192
01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:30,920
Speaker 2: touches his knee, slash feet and then pre slips and

1193
01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:32,640
Speaker 2: then hit someone with that upper cut. After showing him

1194
01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:35,160
Speaker 2: the left, you can see Woodley bats down on the

1195
01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:38,919
Speaker 2: other side right because he was trying to parry because

1196
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:42,000
Speaker 2: he completely misread what was going to happen there. So

1197
01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:44,400
Speaker 2: the old fifty year old guy, this old goat still

1198
01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:46,960
Speaker 2: has a million tricks. It was so great to see.

1199
01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:48,840
Speaker 2: I don't know if he should keep doing it. BC.

1200
01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:50,880
Speaker 2: I still have concerns. But the point I wanted to

1201
01:02:50,920 --> 01:02:54,920
Speaker 2: make was when Anderson Silva was in his prime, he

1202
01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:57,720
Speaker 2: was kind of associated with like just magical moments that

1203
01:02:57,760 --> 01:03:00,240
Speaker 2: you would remember forever. And you know, I don't know

1204
01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:02,240
Speaker 2: if the Woodley Ko is going to be remembered forever BC,

1205
01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:05,280
Speaker 2: but that feeling you get where you're like, this motherfucker,

1206
01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:10,200
Speaker 2: you know, like he's got so many tricks, He's got

1207
01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:13,840
Speaker 2: so many tricks. He's just always he's just he's just

1208
01:03:13,880 --> 01:03:18,360
Speaker 2: a martial artist to the bone, to the bone, and

1209
01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:20,240
Speaker 2: you got to see a little bit of that, you

1210
01:03:20,320 --> 01:03:22,400
Speaker 2: know again, when he front kicked vitre belfour in the face.

1211
01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:23,920
Speaker 2: It was obviously bigger and more important and all that

1212
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:26,200
Speaker 2: kind of stuff, But I gotta tell you, man, that

1213
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:31,320
Speaker 2: was that he brings joy, the magic of his style,

1214
01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:34,920
Speaker 2: the way in which he wins. It just feels good

1215
01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:37,040
Speaker 2: to watch, and I think a lot of MMA fans

1216
01:03:37,520 --> 01:03:40,800
Speaker 2: felt really nice seeing him at fifty years old still

1217
01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:43,320
Speaker 2: have these awesome fuck It wasn't like he just you know,

1218
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:46,880
Speaker 2: jabbed and hugged his way to a six round decision. BC.

1219
01:03:47,360 --> 01:03:49,800
Speaker 2: He went in there and was like boo boo, boop bop,

1220
01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:50,840
Speaker 2: you know, like it was.

1221
01:03:51,320 --> 01:03:52,200
Speaker 1: It was fucking great.

1222
01:03:52,680 --> 01:03:53,680
Speaker 2: It was great. It was great.

1223
01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:55,400
Speaker 1: I agree though that I don't know if I want

1224
01:03:55,440 --> 01:03:57,840
Speaker 1: to keep seeing him keep doing it unless it's like

1225
01:03:58,560 --> 01:04:00,760
Speaker 1: propped up type of matchmak. I mean, I know he

1226
01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:02,440
Speaker 1: called that Chris Wyban, who was supposed to be his

1227
01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:07,600
Speaker 1: original opponent. Okay, I mean whatever, but I kind of

1228
01:04:07,600 --> 01:04:10,640
Speaker 1: wish he just walked away for his own brain power

1229
01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:13,720
Speaker 1: moving forward. But you know he back, trust me, he

1230
01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:16,840
Speaker 1: back in this moment, and he got to meet aj.

1231
01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:19,000
Speaker 1: We saw a little real recognizing reel.

1232
01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:19,160
Speaker 2: Here.

1233
01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:19,840
Speaker 1: Let's see that.

1234
01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:24,320
Speaker 11: Oh wow, So here we've got mister Silver, a spider.

1235
01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:28,680
Speaker 2: Legend. Congratulations. You know what's good about you?

1236
01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:31,600
Speaker 11: You're not only a good fire, but you're an amazing person.

1237
01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:33,280
Speaker 2: I improve a lot.

1238
01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:35,480
Speaker 11: I improve a lot, No, but not just ping, but

1239
01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:36,080
Speaker 11: as a person.

1240
01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:39,400
Speaker 2: Very buddy, How are you? I'm good? I'm good? Are you?

1241
01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:41,400
Speaker 2: Are you recording with your glass? No? No, I know

1242
01:04:42,840 --> 01:04:45,760
Speaker 2: I use it. I use it only because I'm I

1243
01:04:45,800 --> 01:04:47,920
Speaker 2: can't see. But well done.

1244
01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:51,760
Speaker 11: Today I saw we was watching how do you feel?

1245
01:04:53,120 --> 01:04:57,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're gonna fight again. You're gonna be of your

1246
01:04:57,000 --> 01:04:57,600
Speaker 2: son some more.

1247
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:12,240
Speaker 13: That's the hard part, the hard part, but congratulations, congratulations.

1248
01:05:12,680 --> 01:05:15,440
Speaker 1: Luke Anderson would say after the fight Ariel Hawani in

1249
01:05:15,480 --> 01:05:18,320
Speaker 1: the ring that he's going to pursue a police at

1250
01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:21,760
Speaker 1: the police Academy in Beverly Hills, California to give back

1251
01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:24,840
Speaker 1: to the US, and that he's going to continue fighting.

1252
01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:28,520
Speaker 1: So that is what it is. But Tyron Woodley on

1253
01:05:28,560 --> 01:05:31,040
Speaker 1: the flip side, falls to zero and three in boxing

1254
01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:34,600
Speaker 1: with two bad knockouts. He would say afterwards, give me

1255
01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:37,880
Speaker 1: a full camp and I'll show you what I have. Luke,

1256
01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:40,600
Speaker 1: it's not there anymore. He's had a great run as

1257
01:05:40,600 --> 01:05:43,120
Speaker 1: a combat sports athlete, but I can't see this anymore.

1258
01:05:44,080 --> 01:05:46,040
Speaker 2: Lost four in a row on his way out the door,

1259
01:05:46,160 --> 01:05:48,280
Speaker 2: and you know, again not to scrubs, but it didn't

1260
01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:52,120
Speaker 2: look great doing it, and then has lost three in

1261
01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:55,080
Speaker 2: a row and then two of those by Kobi. So

1262
01:05:55,200 --> 01:05:57,880
Speaker 2: he got remember he got flat lined against Jake Paul

1263
01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:00,760
Speaker 2: and then he got hurt here real bad. He's forty three,

1264
01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:02,680
Speaker 2: and I understand now I didn't get a full camp. Okay,

1265
01:06:02,840 --> 01:06:06,040
Speaker 2: fair enough, fair enough. You see, like there is a

1266
01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:07,560
Speaker 2: lane and I know we're going to talk about this

1267
01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:09,000
Speaker 2: a little bit later in the show. There is a

1268
01:06:09,080 --> 01:06:12,760
Speaker 2: lane for like unk level combat sports, but it just

1269
01:06:12,800 --> 01:06:17,760
Speaker 2: requires difficulty. Sorry, it requires having a keen eye for

1270
01:06:17,880 --> 01:06:21,520
Speaker 2: what works and what doesn't. And yeah, is Silva fifty

1271
01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:25,680
Speaker 2: and Woodley's forty three? Oh well, Woodley's seven years younger.

1272
01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:30,120
Speaker 2: But he's clearly not as durable or able to defend

1273
01:06:30,200 --> 01:06:33,040
Speaker 2: himself frankly in the ways that Silva appears able to do.

1274
01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:36,120
Speaker 2: So it's not even just a mathematic an arithmetic question

1275
01:06:36,160 --> 01:06:39,000
Speaker 2: of what their age is. Woodley was a great champion.

1276
01:06:39,080 --> 01:06:40,720
Speaker 2: I know you agree with that, and I think he

1277
01:06:40,760 --> 01:06:43,920
Speaker 2: did a lot of great things. But and credit, he's

1278
01:06:43,920 --> 01:06:47,600
Speaker 2: getting big checks relatively speaking, on part of his career

1279
01:06:47,600 --> 01:06:49,320
Speaker 2: that you would never imagine he would be able to.

1280
01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:52,160
Speaker 2: But I really worry about his health at this point.

1281
01:06:52,640 --> 01:06:54,640
Speaker 2: This is starting to get kind of bad.

1282
01:06:55,080 --> 01:06:57,800
Speaker 1: I agree with you completely. He's gone to acting lately.

1283
01:06:57,880 --> 01:07:00,479
Speaker 1: We saw that clip of where he showed his bare

1284
01:07:00,520 --> 01:07:02,600
Speaker 1: ass and they opened up the cage and the raccoon.

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01:07:02,880 --> 01:07:05,560
Speaker 1: The raccoon came out and bit his schlong. And then

1286
01:07:05,600 --> 01:07:10,080
Speaker 1: we saw that homemade video of where he was Uh yeah, Luke,

1287
01:07:10,160 --> 01:07:13,200
Speaker 1: he was having a meal there. Okay, thanks you very much.

1288
01:07:13,240 --> 01:07:16,440
Speaker 1: All right, Uh, let's show that photo. This is a

1289
01:07:16,480 --> 01:07:18,520
Speaker 1: great photo of Anderson Silva. By the way, what's the

1290
01:07:18,520 --> 01:07:19,840
Speaker 1: photographer's name on this one?

1291
01:07:19,920 --> 01:07:22,400
Speaker 2: Look Scott Corano. I thought it was Esther Linne, but

1292
01:07:22,440 --> 01:07:23,400
Speaker 2: it's Scott Corano.

1293
01:07:24,280 --> 01:07:28,840
Speaker 1: Great shot right there of Silva's team praying over him.

1294
01:07:29,480 --> 01:07:32,000
Speaker 1: Also in the official co main event, we saw Women's

1295
01:07:32,080 --> 01:07:36,320
Speaker 1: Unified one thirty champion Alicia Baumgartner score respectable win over

1296
01:07:36,600 --> 01:07:39,800
Speaker 1: Layla boyd Uh how do you pronounce? I don't know,

1297
01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:47,560
Speaker 1: boy Don Baudoon bad cross across uh luke fighting three

1298
01:07:47,600 --> 01:07:51,600
Speaker 1: minute rounds, twelve round distance. The crowd kind of tired

1299
01:07:51,680 --> 01:07:56,920
Speaker 1: on it. Laila rallied back at the end there, but uh, ultimately,

1300
01:07:57,400 --> 01:08:01,360
Speaker 1: is this the type of placement that you think elevates Alicia?

1301
01:08:03,240 --> 01:08:04,920
Speaker 2: I mean it's hard to say, like, oh, was this

1302
01:08:05,040 --> 01:08:08,200
Speaker 2: bad for her because she was a comin event on Netflix. No,

1303
01:08:08,360 --> 01:08:11,120
Speaker 2: it clearly wasn't bad for her. But like, there's just

1304
01:08:11,200 --> 01:08:13,680
Speaker 2: no one talking about this fight forty eight hours later

1305
01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:15,000
Speaker 2: or however long it's been in that came or do

1306
01:08:15,080 --> 01:08:17,719
Speaker 2: my math anymore, you know, it just is not a relevant,

1307
01:08:17,880 --> 01:08:21,360
Speaker 2: irrelevant thing. So it's I mean, did she look good, yes,

1308
01:08:21,439 --> 01:08:23,920
Speaker 2: did she do her part to promote she did did

1309
01:08:23,960 --> 01:08:28,320
Speaker 2: she come prepared and execute according to her abilities? And

1310
01:08:28,360 --> 01:08:31,920
Speaker 2: again shouts to her twelve rounds, three minute rounds, Like, dude,

1311
01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:36,480
Speaker 2: she did the work. I respect what she did, but materially,

1312
01:08:36,560 --> 01:08:38,920
Speaker 2: what was the impact? This is the thing about booking

1313
01:08:38,920 --> 01:08:41,400
Speaker 2: these cards. We see and again, you know, everyone's still

1314
01:08:41,400 --> 01:08:45,040
Speaker 2: trying to figure out what works. My VIEWBC is I'm

1315
01:08:45,040 --> 01:08:46,960
Speaker 2: not saying that there's no way that if you have

1316
01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:49,679
Speaker 2: one of these influencer type cards you can't put legit

1317
01:08:49,760 --> 01:08:52,840
Speaker 2: fights on there. But if you're gonna put legit fights,

1318
01:08:52,880 --> 01:08:55,400
Speaker 2: they have to be the kind of action oriented ones

1319
01:08:55,680 --> 01:08:58,680
Speaker 2: that match the chaos that you're gonna get from the

1320
01:08:58,720 --> 01:09:02,320
Speaker 2: other ones. Otherwise they just stand out in the wrong direction.

1321
01:09:02,400 --> 01:09:04,759
Speaker 2: It's like, oh, let's put the who are the best

1322
01:09:04,760 --> 01:09:06,679
Speaker 2: boxers on the card? Okay, AJ's a really good boxer,

1323
01:09:06,680 --> 01:09:08,920
Speaker 2: but you know, like as a as a as a pair,

1324
01:09:09,200 --> 01:09:10,600
Speaker 2: who are the best boxers? And it was in the

1325
01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:14,919
Speaker 2: co main event, but like that version of the product

1326
01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:17,720
Speaker 2: relative to the entertainment you got from Silva even or

1327
01:09:17,760 --> 01:09:21,400
Speaker 2: you know, the final KO of Jake Anyway, I don't

1328
01:09:21,439 --> 01:09:25,719
Speaker 2: know what that does for her. That's the kind of question.

1329
01:09:26,080 --> 01:09:29,799
Speaker 1: I look, MVP has a lot of elite female fighters

1330
01:09:29,840 --> 01:09:32,439
Speaker 1: on their roster. I kind of wish they would start

1331
01:09:32,439 --> 01:09:36,040
Speaker 1: aggressively matching them against one another and trying to make

1332
01:09:36,160 --> 01:09:40,559
Speaker 1: name fights more than we're gonna, you know, unify belts

1333
01:09:40,600 --> 01:09:42,639
Speaker 1: with this opponent you've never heard of, or we're gonna

1334
01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:45,880
Speaker 1: do this mandatory. It's like, you know, Amanda Serrano has

1335
01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:48,200
Speaker 1: a fight coming up in January at a stadium in

1336
01:09:48,240 --> 01:09:51,719
Speaker 1: Puerto Rico, but her opponent, you know, pop for a test.

1337
01:09:51,720 --> 01:09:54,479
Speaker 1: It's like I kind of would have loved Alicia versus

1338
01:09:54,520 --> 01:09:58,760
Speaker 1: Amanda here right, like two stars, or get Holly Home involved,

1339
01:09:58,920 --> 01:10:00,519
Speaker 1: or like you know what I mean, Like so be

1340
01:10:00,640 --> 01:10:04,320
Speaker 1: a little bit more creative in how you promote the

1341
01:10:04,439 --> 01:10:06,760
Speaker 1: names on your roster so that we would have a

1342
01:10:06,760 --> 01:10:11,000
Speaker 1: little bit more interest ultimately in that. But Luke, those

1343
01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:13,800
Speaker 1: are our four topics right there. And I do have

1344
01:10:13,840 --> 01:10:17,920
Speaker 1: to pause for a moment because it's history time, Because now,

1345
01:10:18,160 --> 01:10:20,439
Speaker 1: right now is a good time for all you to

1346
01:10:20,520 --> 01:10:25,840
Speaker 1: remember where Tequila's story truly began. Back in seventeen ninety five.

1347
01:10:26,120 --> 01:10:30,559
Speaker 1: Get this, Cuervo invented tequila, and since then, Quervo's been

1348
01:10:30,560 --> 01:10:33,479
Speaker 1: doing nothing but staying true to their roots, same family,

1349
01:10:33,880 --> 01:10:38,200
Speaker 1: same land, same passion Breda two hundred and thirty years later.

1350
01:10:38,280 --> 01:10:41,679
Speaker 1: Cuervo is still right here, and every pore and every

1351
01:10:41,720 --> 01:10:46,479
Speaker 1: margarita in every celebration and every pregame preview brought to

1352
01:10:46,520 --> 01:10:49,839
Speaker 1: you by Morning Combat. So enjoy the tequila that started

1353
01:10:49,840 --> 01:10:54,320
Speaker 1: at all Quervo, the tequila that invented Tequila Proximoquervo dot com.

1354
01:10:54,360 --> 01:10:59,760
Speaker 1: Please drink responsibly. Heck yeah, let me get some more

1355
01:10:59,760 --> 01:11:01,639
Speaker 1: of that. Let me get some more of that. Queer

1356
01:11:01,720 --> 01:11:04,400
Speaker 1: vote Luke, Okay, all right, I mean I got to

1357
01:11:04,479 --> 01:11:06,759
Speaker 1: join a pregame preview at one point post divorce.

1358
01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:10,160
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, we'll have you back, don't worry, all right,

1359
01:11:10,640 --> 01:11:11,920
Speaker 2: thank you? How about that?

1360
01:11:12,240 --> 01:11:14,479
Speaker 1: All right? Let's go to topic number five for what

1361
01:11:14,520 --> 01:11:17,680
Speaker 1: else happened this weekend in combat sports? And was this

1362
01:11:17,880 --> 01:11:21,320
Speaker 1: the weekend for the unks or what not? Only did

1363
01:11:21,320 --> 01:11:24,240
Speaker 1: Anderson Silva turn back the clock on Netflix, but two

1364
01:11:24,439 --> 01:11:28,520
Speaker 1: other oldies had big moments. And based on these results,

1365
01:11:28,840 --> 01:11:32,280
Speaker 1: what would you say are the more legitimate lanes for

1366
01:11:32,320 --> 01:11:35,320
Speaker 1: an aging prize fighter to take when they are along

1367
01:11:35,439 --> 01:11:39,000
Speaker 1: past their prime. I'm talking about Tony Ferguson winning the

1368
01:11:39,080 --> 01:11:44,240
Speaker 1: vacant Misfits middleweight title with a clear win over Warren Spencer.

1369
01:11:44,640 --> 01:11:47,479
Speaker 1: I'm talking about what Yuol Romero that we'll get to

1370
01:11:47,520 --> 01:11:51,080
Speaker 1: in a second did in real American freestyle wrestling by

1371
01:11:51,160 --> 01:11:56,040
Speaker 1: tech falling Pat Downey of wrestling in Bellator fame setting

1372
01:11:56,080 --> 01:11:59,639
Speaker 1: up the showdown with Bo Nickel Luke. It was Uncle Lore.

1373
01:12:00,240 --> 01:12:03,800
Speaker 1: Even the head of the Manisphere, Andrew Tay got taken down.

1374
01:12:05,200 --> 01:12:07,599
Speaker 1: How do you want to see our aging heroes when

1375
01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:11,000
Speaker 1: they get to this point, presented and represented to give

1376
01:12:11,040 --> 01:12:12,960
Speaker 1: these type of fun moments.

1377
01:12:14,720 --> 01:12:17,000
Speaker 2: There's always going to be a question of like after

1378
01:12:17,120 --> 01:12:20,160
Speaker 2: a beating, the beating that comes with a UFC career,

1379
01:12:20,240 --> 01:12:22,639
Speaker 2: should they be fighting at all? Right? Is a completely

1380
01:12:22,680 --> 01:12:26,160
Speaker 2: relevant and important question, and I think we'll disqualify a

1381
01:12:26,160 --> 01:12:29,840
Speaker 2: lot of people from So I think there's two considerations pecies. Okay,

1382
01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:32,320
Speaker 2: just let's do some medical inventory. Where are you at

1383
01:12:32,320 --> 01:12:33,800
Speaker 2: the end of a UFC career? Right? That's sort of

1384
01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:36,760
Speaker 2: one question, and then the second question is, okay, now

1385
01:12:36,800 --> 01:12:39,760
Speaker 2: what kind of events are you signing up for? So

1386
01:12:40,200 --> 01:12:42,040
Speaker 2: if you fail the first one, the second one doesn't

1387
01:12:42,040 --> 01:12:44,240
Speaker 2: even matter. But even if you pass the first one,

1388
01:12:44,600 --> 01:12:46,519
Speaker 2: then the second one has to have a delicate touch.

1389
01:12:46,800 --> 01:12:49,160
Speaker 2: Let's cool the other way. First, let's start with Joel Romero,

1390
01:12:49,240 --> 01:12:51,720
Speaker 2: dude beating. He didn't just beat Pat Downey, he tech

1391
01:12:51,760 --> 01:12:54,679
Speaker 2: fold him. Pat Downey was a former World team member,

1392
01:12:55,520 --> 01:12:57,680
Speaker 2: you know, he didn't win any super prestious titles at

1393
01:12:57,720 --> 01:12:59,960
Speaker 2: the freestyle level, but not a not a bullshit guy.

1394
01:13:00,160 --> 01:13:04,520
Speaker 1: And isn't it true that Joel hadn't competed in twenty years?

1395
01:13:03,520 --> 01:13:06,840
Speaker 2: And yes, and he fucking tech falled him. For folk

1396
01:13:06,840 --> 01:13:09,680
Speaker 2: who don't know what techfall means, that means mercy stoppage.

1397
01:13:10,160 --> 01:13:12,040
Speaker 2: That means if you score I think in freestyle's either

1398
01:13:12,040 --> 01:13:16,200
Speaker 2: ten or twelve points consecutively or not. If you put

1399
01:13:16,240 --> 01:13:20,760
Speaker 2: that margin up on them, then they just call it

1400
01:13:20,840 --> 01:13:25,759
Speaker 2: and before time it's expired, Like he fucking mercy stopped

1401
01:13:25,840 --> 01:13:32,080
Speaker 2: him and is still doing cartwheels and backflips at forty eight. Dude,

1402
01:13:32,320 --> 01:13:37,080
Speaker 2: mother fucking Joel Romero is a generational athlete. We use

1403
01:13:37,160 --> 01:13:40,040
Speaker 2: that word all the time, like he's a generational athlete

1404
01:13:40,040 --> 01:13:42,559
Speaker 2: and in certain cases for someone very very elite but

1405
01:13:42,600 --> 01:13:47,080
Speaker 2: not necessarily generational. This guy has been beating people's asses

1406
01:13:48,160 --> 01:13:52,400
Speaker 2: in very difficult sports for well over twenty years at

1407
01:13:52,400 --> 01:13:54,960
Speaker 2: this point, BCEE well over that thirty years is really

1408
01:13:54,960 --> 01:13:56,640
Speaker 2: probably closer to the amount given what he was doing

1409
01:13:56,680 --> 01:13:59,720
Speaker 2: in the Cuban amateur system prior to that. He is

1410
01:14:00,000 --> 01:14:03,639
Speaker 2: special beyond fucking words. Man, you just won't meet guys

1411
01:14:03,680 --> 01:14:08,040
Speaker 2: like this very often to be nearly FIFTYBC and move

1412
01:14:08,160 --> 01:14:11,920
Speaker 2: like he moves and still have dude people wondering, you will,

1413
01:14:12,120 --> 01:14:16,000
Speaker 2: where the fuck was this in the Seriously, look where

1414
01:14:16,040 --> 01:14:19,479
Speaker 2: the fuck was this? Because he looked like a cat

1415
01:14:19,520 --> 01:14:22,880
Speaker 2: out there. He's this to me, if you're up for

1416
01:14:22,920 --> 01:14:24,960
Speaker 2: the task, BC, I don't know what kind of audience

1417
01:14:24,960 --> 01:14:27,439
Speaker 2: there is for it, but like some kind of freestyle

1418
01:14:27,479 --> 01:14:31,240
Speaker 2: wrestling match, Totally good with it, Totally fine. Jiu jitsu

1419
01:14:31,280 --> 01:14:33,960
Speaker 2: is the same. It's a safe, great lane for the

1420
01:14:34,040 --> 01:14:36,320
Speaker 2: unks who can qualify for things like that.

1421
01:14:36,960 --> 01:14:39,479
Speaker 1: All right, we'll see that same Ankyol Romero of course

1422
01:14:39,479 --> 01:14:43,280
Speaker 1: in that BKFC Light Heavyweight uh showed title showdown in

1423
01:14:43,320 --> 01:14:46,400
Speaker 1: February there against Lorenzo Hunt. But yeah, that was great

1424
01:14:46,439 --> 01:14:49,120
Speaker 1: to Ceol do the full backflip and get and get

1425
01:14:49,120 --> 01:14:51,240
Speaker 1: the love for that. Let's go back to Tony Ferguson

1426
01:14:51,280 --> 01:14:55,400
Speaker 1: and that misfits vacant middleweight title about his second consecutive win.

1427
01:14:55,840 --> 01:14:57,560
Speaker 1: He is it was a clear win he beat the

1428
01:14:57,600 --> 01:15:01,280
Speaker 1: bags off of Warren Spencer nearly stopped him. So, Luke,

1429
01:15:01,800 --> 01:15:03,880
Speaker 1: I love the memes that are coming out of this

1430
01:15:04,040 --> 01:15:06,799
Speaker 1: where you know, for Tony it's like showing the record

1431
01:15:06,800 --> 01:15:09,639
Speaker 1: to end the MMA career and then showing what happened

1432
01:15:09,680 --> 01:15:12,439
Speaker 1: since he got into boxing, and it's Jake Paul gonna

1433
01:15:12,439 --> 01:15:14,600
Speaker 1: call him out. Next, is gonna fight Andrew Tate. I

1434
01:15:14,600 --> 01:15:17,599
Speaker 1: don't want to see him take, you know, damage against anyone,

1435
01:15:17,680 --> 01:15:22,080
Speaker 1: but it's really hard not to get a smile, not

1436
01:15:22,200 --> 01:15:26,280
Speaker 1: to enjoy, not to appreciate seeing Tony still be able

1437
01:15:26,280 --> 01:15:30,600
Speaker 1: to compete, not get hurt and thrive. I mean, we

1438
01:15:30,720 --> 01:15:33,200
Speaker 1: love this guy. He once gave you that baseball for

1439
01:15:33,280 --> 01:15:34,160
Speaker 1: no reason, Luke.

1440
01:15:35,840 --> 01:15:37,719
Speaker 2: It wasn't the baseball. It was a gripping tool.

1441
01:15:38,280 --> 01:15:41,479
Speaker 1: Oh that's right, okay, Yeah for uh yeah'll be able

1442
01:15:41,520 --> 01:15:42,200
Speaker 1: to Yeah there you.

1443
01:15:42,200 --> 01:15:49,160
Speaker 2: Go, Okay, thank you very much.

1444
01:15:49,240 --> 01:15:52,559
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1445
01:15:52,600 --> 01:15:55,439
Speaker 2: Well, anyway, if I may on Tony Ferguson, I still

1446
01:15:55,479 --> 01:15:57,000
Speaker 2: think the amount of damage he took in his career

1447
01:15:57,080 --> 01:16:00,479
Speaker 2: BC is still worrying. However, what you can I also

1448
01:16:00,640 --> 01:16:04,639
Speaker 2: say is this is a level of competition where I'm

1449
01:16:04,680 --> 01:16:06,880
Speaker 2: a lot less worried about what might happen to him,

1450
01:16:07,600 --> 01:16:12,759
Speaker 2: and for now he's dominating and getting some decent paychecks.

1451
01:16:12,800 --> 01:16:17,360
Speaker 2: I hope you know this is hard, this this kind

1452
01:16:17,479 --> 01:16:20,480
Speaker 2: of lane that he's in where he's basically fighting influencers,

1453
01:16:20,479 --> 01:16:23,920
Speaker 2: and shit, I don't think that that that in terms

1454
01:16:23,920 --> 01:16:26,160
Speaker 2: of again, in terms of the kind of damage he

1455
01:16:26,200 --> 01:16:30,000
Speaker 2: can take, and like where he's at. Clearly this is more,

1456
01:16:30,439 --> 01:16:32,759
Speaker 2: this is more commensurate with what he's got to offer,

1457
01:16:33,200 --> 01:16:35,720
Speaker 2: and in that sense, I'm less concerned about it.

1458
01:16:37,040 --> 01:16:39,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I am too. I mean it's still brain rattling.

1459
01:16:39,439 --> 01:16:41,559
Speaker 1: But if he's going to fight lower level competition like

1460
01:16:41,600 --> 01:16:44,320
Speaker 1: this and be treated like a like a king and

1461
01:16:44,400 --> 01:16:46,880
Speaker 1: get the respect that I mean, he never you know,

1462
01:16:47,080 --> 01:16:49,479
Speaker 1: five times they tried. He never got the Beab fight,

1463
01:16:49,760 --> 01:16:53,000
Speaker 1: He never got the full title fight until he was unfortunately,

1464
01:16:53,560 --> 01:16:56,240
Speaker 1: you know, closer to being done than not. And Gaitchee

1465
01:16:56,280 --> 01:16:59,200
Speaker 1: took the soul from him in there. So as long

1466
01:16:59,240 --> 01:17:01,640
Speaker 1: as it's control old and they're not setting him up

1467
01:17:01,680 --> 01:17:04,680
Speaker 1: to fail, I don't hate it. Luke. Also on that

1468
01:17:04,720 --> 01:17:08,280
Speaker 1: same card, it must be said mental Sphere influencer Andrew

1469
01:17:08,320 --> 01:17:10,800
Speaker 1: Tate in the main event, who is by the way,

1470
01:17:10,840 --> 01:17:14,240
Speaker 1: presently charged in multiple countries with rape and human trafficking

1471
01:17:14,720 --> 01:17:17,360
Speaker 1: was schooled by influencer Chase the more I think it

1472
01:17:17,400 --> 01:17:20,360
Speaker 1: was like a majority decision in the end. But Tate,

1473
01:17:20,400 --> 01:17:24,479
Speaker 1: with the former kickboxing championship background, he got lit up

1474
01:17:24,640 --> 01:17:27,680
Speaker 1: at times. What's your reaction to this, because this was

1475
01:17:27,760 --> 01:17:31,719
Speaker 1: not a fight. You were all into being musty TV

1476
01:17:31,920 --> 01:17:34,240
Speaker 1: or previewing or really giving the light a day. It's

1477
01:17:34,240 --> 01:17:37,599
Speaker 1: about as gross of as signing as possible these days.

1478
01:17:37,640 --> 01:17:40,960
Speaker 1: But did you get some feelies from it? Luke?

1479
01:17:41,840 --> 01:17:43,840
Speaker 2: I don't get it. I didn't get one feeling from

1480
01:17:43,880 --> 01:17:45,599
Speaker 2: it or another. I mean, it was kind of funny

1481
01:17:45,640 --> 01:17:48,280
Speaker 2: to see how bad he looked. I suppose, you know.

1482
01:17:48,400 --> 01:17:50,360
Speaker 2: The only thing for me is like afterwards he was like,

1483
01:17:50,400 --> 01:17:52,800
Speaker 2: you know, the best thing is to try and blah

1484
01:17:52,840 --> 01:17:54,799
Speaker 2: blah blah, And it's like, dude, that's not your message.

1485
01:17:54,800 --> 01:17:56,880
Speaker 2: Your message is not the best thing is to try

1486
01:17:56,960 --> 01:18:00,799
Speaker 2: and do your best and be humb will and defeat

1487
01:18:00,840 --> 01:18:05,120
Speaker 2: your entire messages. You know, fuck chicks make money and

1488
01:18:05,120 --> 01:18:07,040
Speaker 2: the only people who can't do stuff like this or losers,

1489
01:18:07,080 --> 01:18:10,240
Speaker 2: losers lose. He's actually at tweets that say this nearly verbatim.

1490
01:18:10,400 --> 01:18:12,519
Speaker 2: You know this is your message is not do your best.

1491
01:18:12,520 --> 01:18:14,280
Speaker 2: And if you lose, hold your head up, ey, it's

1492
01:18:14,320 --> 01:18:17,200
Speaker 2: quite the opposite. It's win or nothing. You know. It's

1493
01:18:17,280 --> 01:18:19,200
Speaker 2: very very interesting that in a moment where he gets

1494
01:18:19,200 --> 01:18:22,280
Speaker 2: completely undressed for not having the ability to maybe you

1495
01:18:22,280 --> 01:18:23,760
Speaker 2: could argue at maybe at one point he did, but

1496
01:18:23,800 --> 01:18:26,439
Speaker 2: certainly any longer, which I'm not saying he did that either,

1497
01:18:26,479 --> 01:18:28,800
Speaker 2: but you know, certainly now he does not appear to

1498
01:18:28,840 --> 01:18:30,599
Speaker 2: have the I mean do he was. I didn't watch

1499
01:18:30,600 --> 01:18:32,320
Speaker 2: the fight. I just saw the highlights, but he was

1500
01:18:32,360 --> 01:18:36,120
Speaker 2: getting hit with stuff that were like comically, like yeah,

1501
01:18:36,720 --> 01:18:39,040
Speaker 2: comically bad punches and he couldn't get out of the

1502
01:18:39,080 --> 01:18:42,720
Speaker 2: way of them. It's like, this is not your image. Uh,

1503
01:18:43,000 --> 01:18:47,880
Speaker 2: And you know I won't be I wasn't tuning into

1504
01:18:47,920 --> 01:18:49,559
Speaker 2: this one. I won't tune into the next one. But

1505
01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:51,720
Speaker 2: I for his own sake, not that I really care,

1506
01:18:51,800 --> 01:18:54,880
Speaker 2: but for his own sake, this is a bad idea.

1507
01:18:55,439 --> 01:18:57,280
Speaker 1: They're not going to do him and Tony Ferguson right,

1508
01:18:57,360 --> 01:19:02,240
Speaker 1: Like that's not something that's on the menu, correct.

1509
01:19:01,400 --> 01:19:03,320
Speaker 2: Dude, the world we live in, how could it not be?

1510
01:19:04,160 --> 01:19:08,000
Speaker 2: You know, seriously, you know, but honestly, Tony might do

1511
01:19:08,040 --> 01:19:08,639
Speaker 2: them up bad.

1512
01:19:09,479 --> 01:19:11,559
Speaker 1: Like I'm wondering I'm wondering if Tony's the hero we

1513
01:19:11,600 --> 01:19:12,120
Speaker 1: need in this.

1514
01:19:12,120 --> 01:19:17,040
Speaker 2: Equation could be I don't know. I don't know. I

1515
01:19:17,040 --> 01:19:19,080
Speaker 2: find it very weird to the MMA community. Well, and

1516
01:19:19,120 --> 01:19:21,000
Speaker 2: I shouldn't say find it very weird. I find it

1517
01:19:21,120 --> 01:19:23,400
Speaker 2: very discouraging that there are enough people being like, you know,

1518
01:19:23,680 --> 01:19:25,599
Speaker 2: we really tried his best. It's like, get the fuck

1519
01:19:25,600 --> 01:19:28,559
Speaker 2: out of here with this, Like, who is this convincing to?

1520
01:19:28,720 --> 01:19:29,760
Speaker 2: You know exactly?

1521
01:19:30,160 --> 01:19:32,280
Speaker 1: Those are your five topics for today? Hey, we tried

1522
01:19:32,320 --> 01:19:34,519
Speaker 1: our best. There really wasn't any there were anty shit

1523
01:19:34,640 --> 01:19:36,880
Speaker 1: going on. We did what we did here. But now

1524
01:19:36,920 --> 01:19:39,960
Speaker 1: we give you the opportunity to let your voice be

1525
01:19:40,040 --> 01:19:43,680
Speaker 1: heard every Sunday night at Morning Combat on X and Instagram.

1526
01:19:43,680 --> 01:19:46,840
Speaker 1: We put out the call for your questions via the

1527
01:19:46,920 --> 01:19:50,839
Speaker 1: DMS there, and we've got answers for you donks, along

1528
01:19:50,920 --> 01:19:55,519
Speaker 1: with a a an animal about to be satisfied. This is

1529
01:19:55,560 --> 01:20:04,559
Speaker 1: called DMS from donks. Wow, that animal sure did reach

1530
01:20:04,640 --> 01:20:07,960
Speaker 1: completion there. Our first one comes from at von Beckel.

1531
01:20:08,640 --> 01:20:14,120
Speaker 1: Who were you happier to see lose this past weekend? Well,

1532
01:20:14,160 --> 01:20:17,120
Speaker 1: these are tough choices, Andrew Tate or Jake Paul.

1533
01:20:18,960 --> 01:20:24,400
Speaker 2: Tit is obviously a much worse character in almost every way. Ye,

1534
01:20:24,600 --> 01:20:28,160
Speaker 2: so I suppose that's the answer, But I wasn't so

1535
01:20:28,439 --> 01:20:30,640
Speaker 2: I honestly was not focused on Again, I caught the

1536
01:20:30,680 --> 01:20:32,840
Speaker 2: highlights on Twitter. There was a bunch of them, you know,

1537
01:20:32,960 --> 01:20:35,000
Speaker 2: So I did see some of those, But.

1538
01:20:37,040 --> 01:20:39,200
Speaker 1: And I wasn't in a in a position where I'm like,

1539
01:20:39,520 --> 01:20:43,080
Speaker 1: Jake's gotta get his he must be carried out unconscious,

1540
01:20:43,120 --> 01:20:46,080
Speaker 1: like I just wanted to fight that didn't drop shit

1541
01:20:46,160 --> 01:20:47,160
Speaker 1: on our sport.

1542
01:20:46,920 --> 01:20:47,080
Speaker 4: You know.

1543
01:20:48,000 --> 01:20:50,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I guess it was probably better to

1544
01:20:50,560 --> 01:20:56,280
Speaker 2: watch Tate lose. But yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll probably I'll

1545
01:20:56,320 --> 01:20:56,640
Speaker 2: say that.

1546
01:20:57,240 --> 01:21:00,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess that's right. I cared little about that fight,

1547
01:21:00,520 --> 01:21:02,719
Speaker 1: and ultimately I'm going to try to care less about

1548
01:21:02,760 --> 01:21:05,599
Speaker 1: this Jake Paul fight or really any of them. Moving forward,

1549
01:21:05,680 --> 01:21:08,440
Speaker 1: let's go to our second one from a Drummer Extreme

1550
01:21:08,880 --> 01:21:12,360
Speaker 1: at Stick's Place Time with Anderson Silva's win over the weekend.

1551
01:21:12,360 --> 01:21:15,479
Speaker 1: I'd love to know what is your favorite moment or

1552
01:21:15,560 --> 01:21:19,120
Speaker 1: fight in Silva's career. For Stick's Place Time, it's either

1553
01:21:19,200 --> 01:21:23,680
Speaker 1: his reverse elbow against Tony Frickland or the win in

1554
01:21:23,720 --> 01:21:25,800
Speaker 1: his first fight with chill Son. And we all know

1555
01:21:26,320 --> 01:21:29,040
Speaker 1: rallying down on the scorecards in round five to submit

1556
01:21:29,120 --> 01:21:32,280
Speaker 1: son and defend his title with not only a broken rib,

1557
01:21:32,320 --> 01:21:34,640
Speaker 1: but people, forget that go tee. That was badass that

1558
01:21:34,680 --> 01:21:36,840
Speaker 1: he had that night. Luke, if you can point to

1559
01:21:36,960 --> 01:21:40,000
Speaker 1: one moment in Silva's career that you would tell your

1560
01:21:40,320 --> 01:21:43,960
Speaker 1: your grandson about as you're bouncing him on the knee. Uh,

1561
01:21:44,080 --> 01:21:44,840
Speaker 1: what are you picking?

1562
01:21:45,600 --> 01:21:46,439
Speaker 2: Man? There's a bunch.

1563
01:21:46,880 --> 01:21:48,479
Speaker 1: Don't give me five answers. I need one.

1564
01:21:48,600 --> 01:21:59,240
Speaker 2: Don't do Aluke Thomas um Man, It's probably gonna be

1565
01:21:59,280 --> 01:22:02,439
Speaker 2: the win over Chick ailed the first one because he

1566
01:22:02,600 --> 01:22:08,120
Speaker 2: was just so beaten and and he was losing terribly,

1567
01:22:08,360 --> 01:22:11,200
Speaker 2: and then it just at the very end of it,

1568
01:22:11,280 --> 01:22:14,559
Speaker 2: rescued himself on the most improbable and just you couldn't

1569
01:22:14,560 --> 01:22:17,120
Speaker 2: believe how it all went. It's probably that if I

1570
01:22:17,160 --> 01:22:19,000
Speaker 2: give you some honorable mentions, I think the winner for

1571
01:22:19,240 --> 01:22:20,800
Speaker 2: Griffin the stoppage of him and then.

1572
01:22:23,479 --> 01:22:25,559
Speaker 1: Because he turned into a video game in that fight.

1573
01:22:25,680 --> 01:22:28,320
Speaker 1: It was the moment, you know, And obviously the Bell

1574
01:22:28,360 --> 01:22:30,439
Speaker 1: four kick is right up there. But for me, what

1575
01:22:30,520 --> 01:22:34,520
Speaker 1: he did to Forrest I was just like, this guy's virtuoso.

1576
01:22:34,680 --> 01:22:39,120
Speaker 1: He's an absolute virtuoso. That's some crazy ship the up.

1577
01:22:39,360 --> 01:22:42,200
Speaker 2: The upward elbow he got on on Tony Fricklin was sick.

1578
01:22:43,040 --> 01:22:45,240
Speaker 2: The front kick if he Toard belfour was sick. Dude,

1579
01:22:45,280 --> 01:22:47,719
Speaker 2: the flying knee he hit Carlos Newton with and Pride

1580
01:22:47,840 --> 01:22:50,280
Speaker 2: was sick. I mean, there's just so many you can

1581
01:22:50,479 --> 01:22:51,760
Speaker 2: This is what I mean, dude, this is what this

1582
01:22:51,840 --> 01:22:52,679
Speaker 2: fucking guy does.

1583
01:22:53,120 --> 01:22:55,800
Speaker 1: It's dude up.

1584
01:22:58,920 --> 01:23:02,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's again. That's it's just constantly fulfilled with things

1585
01:23:02,040 --> 01:23:03,360
Speaker 2: like this. You know, Long Island.

1586
01:23:03,360 --> 01:23:04,559
Speaker 1: Look, what's your silver moment.

1587
01:23:05,680 --> 01:23:08,479
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go the anti Silva here when Chris Widman

1588
01:23:08,560 --> 01:23:09,080
Speaker 3: knocked him out.

1589
01:23:09,160 --> 01:23:12,920
Speaker 4: Let's fucking go Widman, get.

1590
01:23:12,760 --> 01:23:16,439
Speaker 1: The hell out of here. Oh my god. Wow Wow,

1591
01:23:17,200 --> 01:23:19,760
Speaker 1: all right, our third one, both of you can leave

1592
01:23:19,760 --> 01:23:20,000
Speaker 1: the show.

1593
01:23:20,040 --> 01:23:20,479
Speaker 2: How about that?

1594
01:23:20,560 --> 01:23:23,080
Speaker 1: Yeah? Pretty soon? Yeah. Our third one comes from a

1595
01:23:23,200 --> 01:23:25,439
Speaker 1: man and his cap big fan of this guy. Looking

1596
01:23:25,479 --> 01:23:28,120
Speaker 1: back at the year, he asks, what has been your

1597
01:23:28,160 --> 01:23:31,760
Speaker 1: favorite fight that didn't make the headlines. I'm assuming he's

1598
01:23:31,840 --> 01:23:35,040
Speaker 1: asking like, is there a fight that won't be Fight

1599
01:23:35,120 --> 01:23:39,280
Speaker 1: of the Year, or wasn't overly famous and popular and

1600
01:23:39,360 --> 01:23:42,439
Speaker 1: newsworthy that you look back and you're like, I enjoyed

1601
01:23:42,479 --> 01:23:44,040
Speaker 1: the absolute shit out of that one.

1602
01:23:44,640 --> 01:23:46,240
Speaker 2: That's a tough one. I'd have to think about that

1603
01:23:46,320 --> 01:23:47,040
Speaker 2: a little bit more.

1604
01:23:48,640 --> 01:23:51,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go a February fight Night Man event if

1605
01:23:51,680 --> 01:23:56,160
Speaker 1: I will Luke Jared cannon Air versus Hobocop was just

1606
01:23:56,200 --> 01:24:00,920
Speaker 1: a sloppy, fun violent war. Do you remember cannon Air

1607
01:24:00,960 --> 01:24:03,320
Speaker 1: got beat up but then he kept rallying.

1608
01:24:02,960 --> 01:24:05,720
Speaker 2: And if you if you had asked me on prop

1609
01:24:05,800 --> 01:24:07,720
Speaker 2: quiz if they fought, I would probably say that I

1610
01:24:07,720 --> 01:24:09,640
Speaker 2: don't that they didn't even fight. I don't remember it

1611
01:24:09,720 --> 01:24:14,519
Speaker 2: at all. That's a tough one for me. I'm not

1612
01:24:14,520 --> 01:24:19,559
Speaker 2: sure how to answer this. I you know what I mean,

1613
01:24:20,840 --> 01:24:22,240
Speaker 2: the guys who I mean? It was the fight of

1614
01:24:22,240 --> 01:24:24,799
Speaker 2: the year and so we got headlines. But the guys

1615
01:24:24,840 --> 01:24:30,960
Speaker 2: who had that Contender series just you know, insane fucking brawl.

1616
01:24:31,560 --> 01:24:33,800
Speaker 2: They were not name they were not names. Like the

1617
01:24:33,920 --> 01:24:36,560
Speaker 2: only way for that fight to ever get elevated was

1618
01:24:36,600 --> 01:24:39,559
Speaker 2: by virtue of what they did. That's not exactly what

1619
01:24:39,600 --> 01:24:41,360
Speaker 2: this person's asking me, I understand, but that's kind I

1620
01:24:41,400 --> 01:24:42,720
Speaker 2: don't know how to answer it because I don't have

1621
01:24:42,760 --> 01:24:44,160
Speaker 2: to really think about it, and I don't I can't

1622
01:24:44,200 --> 01:24:44,880
Speaker 2: do it on the spot.

1623
01:24:46,320 --> 01:24:48,200
Speaker 1: I'll tell you I still have a lot of great

1624
01:24:48,200 --> 01:24:51,200
Speaker 1: feels for the first Paul Hughes Usman and Maga metaf fight.

1625
01:24:51,280 --> 01:24:54,439
Speaker 1: I know that was at the time very well, you know,

1626
01:24:54,800 --> 01:24:58,680
Speaker 1: promoted and talked about, but like same thing too for

1627
01:24:58,800 --> 01:25:02,599
Speaker 1: when Paul Hughes fought in and uh Belfast after that,

1628
01:25:02,920 --> 01:25:05,880
Speaker 1: do you remember the crowd was just insane, like that

1629
01:25:06,040 --> 01:25:09,800
Speaker 1: was that's more of a good moment. But Long Island, look,

1630
01:25:09,880 --> 01:25:12,080
Speaker 1: kick me up with a fight? You you you you

1631
01:25:12,120 --> 01:25:14,320
Speaker 1: were all over the prelimbs like is there something that

1632
01:25:14,360 --> 01:25:16,479
Speaker 1: we that won't make it in the top five or

1633
01:25:16,520 --> 01:25:18,799
Speaker 1: ten a part of the year, but it really stands

1634
01:25:18,840 --> 01:25:19,800
Speaker 1: out to you looking.

1635
01:25:19,560 --> 01:25:21,479
Speaker 4: Back, there was those two fights.

1636
01:25:21,520 --> 01:25:24,559
Speaker 3: They rather than do performance bonuses, they'd had two fight

1637
01:25:24,640 --> 01:25:25,040
Speaker 3: of the Nights.

1638
01:25:25,080 --> 01:25:26,559
Speaker 4: I believe it was an APEX card.

1639
01:25:26,600 --> 01:25:31,479
Speaker 3: It was Chris Duncan, matteoschround Bedski, it was Elvis Brenner

1640
01:25:31,560 --> 01:25:34,639
Speaker 3: and Esteban Ribevich, and both of those were bangers. You're

1641
01:25:34,640 --> 01:25:37,280
Speaker 3: never gonna remember those probably gonna be pop Quay's questions,

1642
01:25:37,320 --> 01:25:39,120
Speaker 3: just wow.

1643
01:25:38,880 --> 01:25:40,880
Speaker 1: Did you notice when Long Island looked at a thumbs up?

1644
01:25:40,920 --> 01:25:42,639
Speaker 1: A thumbs up popped up in his window.

1645
01:25:43,760 --> 01:25:44,920
Speaker 2: It's the program he's using.

1646
01:25:45,200 --> 01:25:47,080
Speaker 3: It's mac. It's a Mac thing. You got to turn

1647
01:25:47,080 --> 01:25:48,240
Speaker 3: it off in your Mac settings.

1648
01:25:48,600 --> 01:25:51,160
Speaker 1: So if you show your your thing, well a eggplant

1649
01:25:51,280 --> 01:25:52,840
Speaker 1: emoji drop pop up?

1650
01:25:56,240 --> 01:26:00,200
Speaker 2: Okay, yes, log Island looks letting you know what time

1651
01:26:00,280 --> 01:26:00,559
Speaker 2: it is?

1652
01:26:00,680 --> 01:26:03,880
Speaker 1: Yes, all right, let's go to our one of our

1653
01:26:03,880 --> 01:26:08,920
Speaker 1: favorite Hawaiians along with Dazz and Max and Alima Lay.

1654
01:26:09,040 --> 01:26:13,519
Speaker 1: This is Telvin. Keep Papa, Yes, big Papa, keep papa.

1655
01:26:13,840 --> 01:26:16,320
Speaker 1: If it's three am, he must be lonely and getting

1656
01:26:16,320 --> 01:26:21,520
Speaker 1: off of the work. Favorite combat sports moment of twenty

1657
01:26:21,640 --> 01:26:26,160
Speaker 1: twenty five, Big Papa asks.

1658
01:26:25,960 --> 01:26:28,120
Speaker 2: Gotta be Ilia flatlining Charles?

1659
01:26:28,600 --> 01:26:30,200
Speaker 1: Well, really explain that?

1660
01:26:30,240 --> 01:26:33,920
Speaker 2: Explain? Yeah, well, we all have Charles. And again, you

1661
01:26:33,920 --> 01:26:36,640
Speaker 2: know what, one of my favorite, not my favorite, but

1662
01:26:36,720 --> 01:26:39,439
Speaker 2: maybe a second tier one was Charles coming back against

1663
01:26:39,479 --> 01:26:42,320
Speaker 2: Gamrot and just running his ass over. That was pretty

1664
01:26:42,320 --> 01:26:45,000
Speaker 2: cool too. But for Iliad to go up there, dude,

1665
01:26:45,640 --> 01:26:49,400
Speaker 2: and I know he has destroyed his personalities or I

1666
01:26:49,400 --> 01:26:52,120
Speaker 2: should say destroyed whatever goodwill he had left, you know,

1667
01:26:53,080 --> 01:26:55,120
Speaker 2: even with people like me in the last year. However,

1668
01:26:56,040 --> 01:26:58,120
Speaker 2: you know he was saying like, I'm just gonna walk

1669
01:26:58,120 --> 01:27:00,320
Speaker 2: across the cage. I'm just gonna knock him out. Happened

1670
01:27:00,320 --> 01:27:02,439
Speaker 2: in the first round, and you know, everybody says this

1671
01:27:02,600 --> 01:27:05,439
Speaker 2: and you're like, dude, this is fucking Charles Lavera, Like, yeah,

1672
01:27:05,479 --> 01:27:07,120
Speaker 2: I think I said it on this show. I was like, Okay,

1673
01:27:07,120 --> 01:27:09,160
Speaker 2: Eli is gonna win this, but dude, this is getting

1674
01:27:09,160 --> 01:27:11,439
Speaker 2: a little arrogant for me. And then he just does exactly.

1675
01:27:11,439 --> 01:27:14,240
Speaker 2: I mean, it was like it was so fucking bananas.

1676
01:27:14,280 --> 01:27:16,400
Speaker 2: That was like I just couldn't believe it. So that

1677
01:27:16,520 --> 01:27:18,880
Speaker 2: kind of thing is hard for me to to say.

1678
01:27:18,920 --> 01:27:20,880
Speaker 2: I mean, there's some deeper cuts you could have gone with,

1679
01:27:20,920 --> 01:27:22,680
Speaker 2: but I had such focus on what Eliot was doing

1680
01:27:22,680 --> 01:27:25,559
Speaker 2: at that time, going from Volk to Max to Charles

1681
01:27:25,840 --> 01:27:27,479
Speaker 2: and then to cap it off that way that was

1682
01:27:27,560 --> 01:27:28,599
Speaker 2: that was pretty insane.

1683
01:27:28,680 --> 01:27:30,840
Speaker 1: I have to say that was a great moment. I

1684
01:27:30,920 --> 01:27:34,080
Speaker 1: got to go with the moment of the year when

1685
01:27:34,120 --> 01:27:38,599
Speaker 1: the car pulled up outside the stadium for Chris Ubank

1686
01:27:38,720 --> 01:27:43,680
Speaker 1: Junior versus Connor Ben and Chris u Bank Senior Pro

1687
01:27:43,760 --> 01:27:46,519
Speaker 1: Wrestling Style gets out, Like dude, that was.

1688
01:27:46,560 --> 01:27:48,879
Speaker 2: Like, that was a huge reveal.

1689
01:27:49,040 --> 01:27:52,160
Speaker 1: Yep, that was like and it just escalated into the fight,

1690
01:27:52,240 --> 01:27:55,479
Speaker 1: which kept getting better and better and better. Like that

1691
01:27:55,640 --> 01:27:58,599
Speaker 1: was a real, a real ass moment right there. I

1692
01:27:58,640 --> 01:28:00,479
Speaker 1: also have to say I felt really good when Kayla

1693
01:28:00,520 --> 01:28:03,160
Speaker 1: Harrison won the title. It felt like a big moment

1694
01:28:03,439 --> 01:28:05,800
Speaker 1: her and it was one of the It reminded me

1695
01:28:05,840 --> 01:28:07,880
Speaker 1: of Morob and the sphere of the year before. I

1696
01:28:07,920 --> 01:28:11,559
Speaker 1: remember just feeling like proud for an athlete, you know, and.

1697
01:28:11,560 --> 01:28:14,160
Speaker 2: Also trying to cut you off. You see. I apologize,

1698
01:28:14,160 --> 01:28:18,680
Speaker 2: but I know it's recency bias. But do that pyoter

1699
01:28:18,800 --> 01:28:22,639
Speaker 2: Yan win of a Morob. Yeah, it was fucking awesome,

1700
01:28:22,840 --> 01:28:26,519
Speaker 2: Like that was so masterful. You got to throw that

1701
01:28:26,560 --> 01:28:27,799
Speaker 2: one in there on the list too.

1702
01:28:28,240 --> 01:28:30,840
Speaker 1: Or or the pyotr Yan win. Maybe it was against

1703
01:28:30,920 --> 01:28:32,760
Speaker 1: McGee when his son was in the cage and got

1704
01:28:32,760 --> 01:28:35,000
Speaker 1: on the microphone, like, I'm so proud of my dad,

1705
01:28:35,920 --> 01:28:38,599
Speaker 1: like you know, that was a come on right right? No?

1706
01:28:38,720 --> 01:28:40,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, yes, all right.

1707
01:28:40,080 --> 01:28:43,240
Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you very much. Our final question comes

1708
01:28:43,280 --> 01:28:46,920
Speaker 1: from licensing Jay seventeen seventy five. That's run damn Cheeks.

1709
01:28:46,920 --> 01:28:48,799
Speaker 1: That's our guy, right, that's.

1710
01:28:48,560 --> 01:28:51,120
Speaker 2: Our guy, he says, Yeah, I think so.

1711
01:28:51,880 --> 01:28:56,519
Speaker 1: Joe says, best Christmas present you've ever given someone else?

1712
01:29:00,520 --> 01:29:01,759
Speaker 1: Just the sticky in a box.

1713
01:29:02,600 --> 01:29:04,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, just a just a just a good old dick

1714
01:29:04,760 --> 01:29:13,960
Speaker 2: in uh this question certificate to pound.

1715
01:29:14,439 --> 01:29:16,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, there it is. I've been. I've been a

1716
01:29:16,880 --> 01:29:20,400
Speaker 1: really bad gift giver my whole life. Just ask my wife. Uh,

1717
01:29:20,640 --> 01:29:23,040
Speaker 1: I could just tell you that I bought my sister

1718
01:29:23,360 --> 01:29:26,600
Speaker 1: so many gifts, like in high school age time, that

1719
01:29:26,720 --> 01:29:29,080
Speaker 1: I knew she wouldn't want that I would eventually end

1720
01:29:29,160 --> 01:29:31,000
Speaker 1: up coming back to me. So I would just buy

1721
01:29:31,000 --> 01:29:34,559
Speaker 1: her VHS movies that I wanted. She never watched them once,

1722
01:29:34,640 --> 01:29:36,320
Speaker 1: and then I just put them in my room. That's

1723
01:29:36,360 --> 01:29:38,080
Speaker 1: like real, that's a real dick move, though, you.

1724
01:29:38,040 --> 01:29:41,120
Speaker 2: Know, it's definitely not the most expensive thing I've ever

1725
01:29:41,160 --> 01:29:44,960
Speaker 2: gotten my wife. But I you know what funny enough

1726
01:29:45,000 --> 01:29:47,040
Speaker 2: to back when we were in the slums of Jersey

1727
01:29:47,040 --> 01:29:49,400
Speaker 2: City one day we had to shoot in the afternoon,

1728
01:29:50,160 --> 01:29:51,880
Speaker 2: and I think we had like most of that day

1729
01:29:51,920 --> 01:29:56,320
Speaker 2: off or something, and so I wanted it around like

1730
01:29:56,520 --> 01:29:59,680
Speaker 2: Jersey City, and I went into this jewelry shop that

1731
01:29:59,800 --> 01:30:03,519
Speaker 2: had add this like a necklace where it was a

1732
01:30:03,760 --> 01:30:05,439
Speaker 2: It was you know, small, and it looked like it

1733
01:30:05,479 --> 01:30:07,240
Speaker 2: was designed as a knife, but you're wearing it like

1734
01:30:07,280 --> 01:30:11,120
Speaker 2: a pendant and the knife handle was made of like pearl.

1735
01:30:12,000 --> 01:30:16,240
Speaker 2: And I got that from my wife and she was

1736
01:30:16,280 --> 01:30:18,120
Speaker 2: just over the moon about it, like she wears it

1737
01:30:18,160 --> 01:30:20,160
Speaker 2: almost every single day since, and there's been several years

1738
01:30:20,160 --> 01:30:21,600
Speaker 2: at this point, Like of all the things that like

1739
01:30:21,640 --> 01:30:24,080
Speaker 2: really had a lasting impact, she really liked that. So

1740
01:30:24,200 --> 01:30:26,640
Speaker 2: Jersey City, you know, huh.

1741
01:30:26,400 --> 01:30:29,120
Speaker 1: What is the Is the knife representative of anything?

1742
01:30:29,680 --> 01:30:31,760
Speaker 2: No, she just likes the aesthetic of it. It had

1743
01:30:31,800 --> 01:30:34,000
Speaker 2: a very it has a very clean look. It's not

1744
01:30:34,200 --> 01:30:36,720
Speaker 2: it's not in any way designed to look menacing, but

1745
01:30:36,800 --> 01:30:38,960
Speaker 2: at the same time, it's got it's a knife, you know.

1746
01:30:39,000 --> 01:30:42,160
Speaker 2: So it's kind of this duality of both what the

1747
01:30:42,280 --> 01:30:43,599
Speaker 2: what the object is and then.

1748
01:30:45,040 --> 01:30:47,920
Speaker 1: Yeah along Island, Luke, you you want to jump in here?

1749
01:30:48,000 --> 01:30:52,320
Speaker 1: Did you get your girlfriend any great gifts like an

1750
01:30:52,360 --> 01:30:53,520
Speaker 1: undercard podcast?

1751
01:30:55,840 --> 01:30:56,080
Speaker 14: Uh?

1752
01:30:56,439 --> 01:30:56,479
Speaker 2: No.

1753
01:30:57,280 --> 01:30:59,800
Speaker 3: The one thing that's coming to mind is like, I'm

1754
01:30:59,840 --> 01:31:01,640
Speaker 3: a big fan of tricking people where you have a

1755
01:31:01,680 --> 01:31:03,840
Speaker 3: really tiny gift and you put it in a really

1756
01:31:03,840 --> 01:31:06,799
Speaker 3: big box with maybe other boxes within it and they.

1757
01:31:06,680 --> 01:31:09,439
Speaker 4: Have to open it. But that's like the funnest gifts

1758
01:31:09,439 --> 01:31:12,160
Speaker 4: I could think of. But yeah, yeah, you take.

1759
01:31:12,040 --> 01:31:15,360
Speaker 1: A really tiny thing, you put it in a box.

1760
01:31:15,880 --> 01:31:17,280
Speaker 4: By taking a box in a box.

1761
01:31:17,360 --> 01:31:20,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, it turns out, Yeah, that's it. I don't Yeah,

1762
01:31:20,680 --> 01:31:22,720
Speaker 1: I guess I look back. I'm not a great gift giver.

1763
01:31:23,000 --> 01:31:25,000
Speaker 1: I need this year. I really tried, though. Look I'm

1764
01:31:25,000 --> 01:31:26,880
Speaker 1: really hoping for a W. We need a W this

1765
01:31:26,960 --> 01:31:28,599
Speaker 1: year with the wife. Okay, I got it. I got

1766
01:31:28,640 --> 01:31:35,240
Speaker 1: a Oh really yeah yeah, just it's a running joke

1767
01:31:35,360 --> 01:31:37,760
Speaker 1: kind of. But also she's picky, so it's like I

1768
01:31:38,080 --> 01:31:39,360
Speaker 1: had to try. I tried this year.

1769
01:31:39,360 --> 01:31:39,920
Speaker 2: Though I tried.

1770
01:31:40,080 --> 01:31:40,479
Speaker 1: I tried.

1771
01:31:40,760 --> 01:31:41,400
Speaker 4: We're going to see.

1772
01:31:41,680 --> 01:31:44,240
Speaker 1: I'll report back to you, all right, Thank you very much.

1773
01:31:44,640 --> 01:31:47,240
Speaker 1: Those were your questions. We had answers for them. You

1774
01:31:47,240 --> 01:31:49,720
Speaker 1: can reach the program by using our email addressed Morning

1775
01:31:49,720 --> 01:31:51,960
Speaker 1: Combat at gmail dot com. Say hi to Mikey on

1776
01:31:52,000 --> 01:31:55,720
Speaker 1: the other end. Please don't show your groin naked to it.

1777
01:31:56,160 --> 01:32:00,679
Speaker 1: But you can send in some fan subs, some dms

1778
01:32:00,720 --> 01:32:02,880
Speaker 1: from dugs. Look, what is the future of the show

1779
01:32:02,920 --> 01:32:05,839
Speaker 1: post BC? Are you gonna Are you gonna have new segments?

1780
01:32:05,920 --> 01:32:08,080
Speaker 1: Are you gonna show your own ship? What's gonna happen?

1781
01:32:09,560 --> 01:32:12,679
Speaker 2: This is something that we're currently talking about. I'll say this, BC,

1782
01:32:12,880 --> 01:32:15,519
Speaker 2: I think you'll probably agree with this idea. I'm gonna

1783
01:32:15,520 --> 01:32:18,400
Speaker 2: turn Long Island Luke loose. You know, he's gonna come

1784
01:32:18,479 --> 01:32:20,840
Speaker 2: up with new segments and we're gonna try him out,

1785
01:32:20,880 --> 01:32:22,360
Speaker 2: and the ones that stick will keep, and the ones

1786
01:32:22,400 --> 01:32:24,679
Speaker 2: that don't we'll just move on from. But we're gonna

1787
01:32:24,680 --> 01:32:25,519
Speaker 2: try shit out.

1788
01:32:26,360 --> 01:32:29,120
Speaker 1: All right, all right, you're gonna have any bang your

1789
01:32:29,160 --> 01:32:30,679
Speaker 1: fan contests or like.

1790
01:32:33,800 --> 01:32:37,560
Speaker 2: BC's like, listen, when I come back for my honeymoon episode,

1791
01:32:37,720 --> 01:32:39,640
Speaker 2: I want it to be when you're having sex with

1792
01:32:39,680 --> 01:32:42,640
Speaker 2: the listeners wives. Okay, well, thank you.

1793
01:32:42,640 --> 01:32:45,400
Speaker 1: That'd be a great contest in your house and in

1794
01:32:45,439 --> 01:32:47,800
Speaker 1: your all right, enough for that. Enough of that. That's

1795
01:32:47,920 --> 01:32:50,679
Speaker 1: that's weird, all right. Uh, I do have a batch

1796
01:32:50,720 --> 01:32:54,160
Speaker 1: of ship here. I scoured the globe. I look, I'm

1797
01:32:54,200 --> 01:32:57,040
Speaker 1: not trying to undersell it, so it over achieves it

1798
01:32:57,120 --> 01:32:58,840
Speaker 1: is what it is. I think that is this the

1799
01:32:58,880 --> 01:33:00,479
Speaker 1: second to the last time doing this.

1800
01:33:01,920 --> 01:33:05,559
Speaker 2: Uh, we'll do one next week next Monday, right, and

1801
01:33:05,600 --> 01:33:07,880
Speaker 2: then the following Monday. So maybe two more times?

1802
01:33:08,040 --> 01:33:09,200
Speaker 1: Okay, maybe two more times?

1803
01:33:09,200 --> 01:33:09,479
Speaker 2: All right.

1804
01:33:09,479 --> 01:33:12,080
Speaker 1: I'm trying because I know we have special episodes planned

1805
01:33:12,080 --> 01:33:12,800
Speaker 1: for a couple.

1806
01:33:12,520 --> 01:33:15,240
Speaker 2: Of these, right, yes, but I do think there's two

1807
01:33:15,280 --> 01:33:16,639
Speaker 2: more Mondays after this one.

1808
01:33:16,920 --> 01:33:19,360
Speaker 1: So all right, Uh, you know what I did? You

1809
01:33:19,400 --> 01:33:33,160
Speaker 1: know what this is? Have you seen it? Whoa? Indeed, Luke,

1810
01:33:33,280 --> 01:33:37,400
Speaker 1: let's go to Miami for Jake Joshua, and the two

1811
01:33:37,400 --> 01:33:41,200
Speaker 1: of them produced an update to the classic Pantera album cover.

1812
01:33:41,360 --> 01:33:45,840
Speaker 2: Luke your thoughts, Oh this is I posted this on

1813
01:33:45,880 --> 01:33:49,160
Speaker 2: social yesterday. This is whoever came up with this. You're

1814
01:33:49,479 --> 01:33:50,559
Speaker 2: you got it? You nailed it.

1815
01:33:51,080 --> 01:33:53,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, you nailed it, and so did Aj. Do you

1816
01:33:53,439 --> 01:33:55,760
Speaker 1: think Aj swung one hundred percent on this one like

1817
01:33:55,800 --> 01:33:57,000
Speaker 1: he did when he killed in Ghana?

1818
01:33:58,520 --> 01:34:00,439
Speaker 2: I mean I think he swung pretty fucking hard, you know.

1819
01:34:00,520 --> 01:34:02,360
Speaker 2: Was it one hundred percent? I don't know, but it

1820
01:34:02,400 --> 01:34:06,080
Speaker 2: didn't look to me like he was. It didn't look

1821
01:34:06,120 --> 01:34:07,640
Speaker 2: to me like he was soft pedaling, and I'll put

1822
01:34:07,640 --> 01:34:08,000
Speaker 2: it that way.

1823
01:34:08,040 --> 01:34:10,000
Speaker 1: No, I mean he broke the jaw on two spots.

1824
01:34:10,040 --> 01:34:11,680
Speaker 1: Like that's where you got to give Jake credit for

1825
01:34:11,720 --> 01:34:14,599
Speaker 1: not going out right, like that's some crazy shit.

1826
01:34:14,720 --> 01:34:16,840
Speaker 2: Yeah. And then you see remember Jake's face when he

1827
01:34:16,880 --> 01:34:19,200
Speaker 2: was at the bottom and he was like, you know, like,

1828
01:34:19,400 --> 01:34:21,080
Speaker 2: I don't think he'd never been hit by a human

1829
01:34:21,160 --> 01:34:21,639
Speaker 2: that hard.

1830
01:34:22,000 --> 01:34:25,080
Speaker 1: Yeah. Look, there's already been a T shirts made to

1831
01:34:25,120 --> 01:34:29,720
Speaker 1: culminate this historic date of Friday Night. Here's one of them.

1832
01:34:30,560 --> 01:34:33,080
Speaker 2: Jake Paul got knocked out by Anthony Joshua on the

1833
01:34:33,160 --> 01:34:35,400
Speaker 2: day the Epstein files were released December nineteen.

1834
01:34:38,439 --> 01:34:42,400
Speaker 1: Luke, Okay, yeah, yea heavily, heavily all right. Some would

1835
01:34:42,400 --> 01:34:45,120
Speaker 1: even say there was a lot of synergy, Luke, between

1836
01:34:45,160 --> 01:34:48,080
Speaker 1: the losses that Jake Paul had and Andrew Tate had

1837
01:34:48,120 --> 01:34:48,639
Speaker 1: this weekend.

1838
01:34:51,000 --> 01:34:53,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of tough guys on their knees. It appeared,

1839
01:34:53,920 --> 01:34:55,559
Speaker 2: you know, not that I would do any better BC,

1840
01:34:55,720 --> 01:34:57,160
Speaker 2: I'd probably be down there.

1841
01:34:57,320 --> 01:34:59,519
Speaker 1: I wouldn't even answer for my life, but yeah, you

1842
01:34:59,560 --> 01:35:00,840
Speaker 1: would not see me on my knees.

1843
01:35:01,400 --> 01:35:03,760
Speaker 2: Who was that? Who was that dude? Who you see?

1844
01:35:03,760 --> 01:35:05,160
Speaker 2: Who was that dude? Who was on Fox? Where he

1845
01:35:05,400 --> 01:35:07,200
Speaker 2: enters the ring and then the bell rings, He's like, Yo,

1846
01:35:07,280 --> 01:35:08,400
Speaker 2: fuck your life, I'm out of here.

1847
01:35:08,479 --> 01:35:12,840
Speaker 1: Curtis Harper against a jogba. Yeah yeah, Curtis Harper there

1848
01:35:14,600 --> 01:35:18,400
Speaker 1: it is okay? Uh. Also, Luke, that wasn't the only

1849
01:35:18,479 --> 01:35:21,519
Speaker 1: sexual position that made it onto the Netflix broadcast. Check

1850
01:35:21,520 --> 01:35:26,240
Speaker 1: out this dude in the crowd just grinding right there.

1851
01:35:26,560 --> 01:35:29,720
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, wow.

1852
01:35:30,800 --> 01:35:32,799
Speaker 2: When I tell you that that's a Jake Paul crowd,

1853
01:35:32,920 --> 01:35:34,000
Speaker 2: that's a Jake Paul crowd.

1854
01:35:34,160 --> 01:35:37,080
Speaker 1: That is a Jake Paul crowd. Also, how did the

1855
01:35:37,080 --> 01:35:41,080
Speaker 1: commission allow Logan Paul to spend the entire fight standing

1856
01:35:41,080 --> 01:35:56,439
Speaker 1: outside of AJ's corner while he was talking, Junky.

1857
01:35:50,040 --> 01:35:53,600
Speaker 9: What are you going to do?

1858
01:35:53,640 --> 01:35:55,440
Speaker 14: You must every single.

1859
01:36:03,800 --> 01:36:07,040
Speaker 2: That was interesting. That just appears to be a blatant

1860
01:36:07,160 --> 01:36:09,760
Speaker 2: violation of the rules about who is allowed to communicate.

1861
01:36:09,800 --> 01:36:11,600
Speaker 2: And when they're like, you're not even you're just not

1862
01:36:11,600 --> 01:36:13,280
Speaker 2: even supposed to be able to talk to them. Yeah,

1863
01:36:13,320 --> 01:36:15,360
Speaker 2: you can heckle them from a distance. Maybe they said, oh,

1864
01:36:15,360 --> 01:36:18,360
Speaker 2: he's heckling from that distance. I don't know, but that

1865
01:36:18,479 --> 01:36:20,800
Speaker 2: kind of thing is typically it's it's you know what,

1866
01:36:20,840 --> 01:36:23,400
Speaker 2: it's fucking Florida. That's what it is. It's Florida.

1867
01:36:24,280 --> 01:36:26,040
Speaker 1: But it turns out, Luke, we were the ones that

1868
01:36:26,080 --> 01:36:28,439
Speaker 1: were fooled all along because that wasn't Jake Paul in

1869
01:36:28,479 --> 01:36:31,520
Speaker 1: the ring. It was Cake Paul. Somebody called Selene.

1870
01:36:33,640 --> 01:36:39,320
Speaker 2: Oh my fucking god. Yeah, can you imagine eating his face, Pubes.

1871
01:36:39,479 --> 01:36:42,320
Speaker 1: That's why the jaw separated so easily, Luke, it's just

1872
01:36:42,439 --> 01:36:45,200
Speaker 1: Cake in the end, Okay, that wasn't the real guy,

1873
01:36:45,880 --> 01:36:48,840
Speaker 1: all right. Your real highlight of the weekend came in

1874
01:36:48,880 --> 01:36:53,559
Speaker 1: the hallway after Jake Joshua, when Andrea Rolovski bumped into

1875
01:36:53,560 --> 01:36:57,760
Speaker 1: the security team of VIC influencer Jack Doherty, and he

1876
01:36:57,920 --> 01:36:59,560
Speaker 1: let them hands go Luke.

1877
01:37:00,360 --> 01:37:06,000
Speaker 2: To these broccoli haired pieces of shit. I hope Arlovsky.

1878
01:37:06,760 --> 01:37:10,719
Speaker 2: I mean, who is the dumb motherfucker? Dude? Arlovsky is tall,

1879
01:37:10,760 --> 01:37:13,800
Speaker 2: he's like six', four you, know and he's obviously got

1880
01:37:13,800 --> 01:37:15,800
Speaker 2: cauliflower ear and he just looks like a, big bad.

1881
01:37:15,840 --> 01:37:19,679
Speaker 2: Motherfucker who are these collar excuse, me these broccoli haired.

1882
01:37:20,800 --> 01:37:25,800
Speaker 2: Zeros look at these fucking absolute nothings trying to start.

1883
01:37:25,840 --> 01:37:27,960
Speaker 2: Fights this should be the new bully Beat DOWN. Bc

1884
01:37:28,640 --> 01:37:32,200
Speaker 2: just have profighters go and fight these, jackasses kind of

1885
01:37:32,200 --> 01:37:33,920
Speaker 2: like What Tony ferguson is, doing but just a little bit,

1886
01:37:33,960 --> 01:37:37,479
Speaker 2: more you, know, reckless because these dickheads deserve to have

1887
01:37:37,520 --> 01:37:41,040
Speaker 2: their asses beat everyvery time they show up in.

1888
01:37:41,080 --> 01:37:44,479
Speaker 1: Public that was such a great video to. WATCH i love.

1889
01:37:44,479 --> 01:37:47,920
Speaker 1: IT i can't believe how Ballsy doherty's security guard, was

1890
01:37:47,960 --> 01:37:51,479
Speaker 1: like he kept coming back After. Arlovsky do you not, know, well,

1891
01:37:51,560 --> 01:37:55,120
Speaker 1: no nobody knows that he's He's.

1892
01:37:54,880 --> 01:37:56,800
Speaker 2: And, ALSO i mean that's his job you're paid to. Do,

1893
01:37:57,160 --> 01:37:59,640
Speaker 2: Dude Jack dougherty does this. Ship they go and they

1894
01:37:59,640 --> 01:38:02,280
Speaker 2: bump in people and then when they react though they

1895
01:38:02,320 --> 01:38:04,080
Speaker 2: have some big as security guy who jumps in there

1896
01:38:04,120 --> 01:38:06,519
Speaker 2: and is, like you, know stopping. Them it's, LIKE i

1897
01:38:06,560 --> 01:38:08,760
Speaker 2: don't know if that model works if you're bumping into

1898
01:38:08,760 --> 01:38:11,240
Speaker 2: Fucking Andrea. Orlowski all, right.

1899
01:38:11,160 --> 01:38:13,400
Speaker 1: Look your cameraman of the week was down in This

1900
01:38:13,479 --> 01:38:17,760
Speaker 1: caribbean baseball. Game let's watch the. Action here's the. Pitch oh,

1901
01:38:17,800 --> 01:38:19,400
Speaker 1: no they're gonna oh, okay well.

1902
01:38:19,439 --> 01:38:22,840
Speaker 2: Hell, yeah, yeah that was. Me that was me getting

1903
01:38:22,840 --> 01:38:25,200
Speaker 2: off the plane right. THERE i was, like holy fuck

1904
01:38:25,240 --> 01:38:27,719
Speaker 2: else In? Wonderland is it.

1905
01:38:27,680 --> 01:38:31,640
Speaker 1: True that you uh didn't sleep After Jake? Joshua you

1906
01:38:31,680 --> 01:38:33,599
Speaker 1: stayed up all night and then flew To South.

1907
01:38:33,640 --> 01:38:37,400
Speaker 2: America it's WHEN i say that that is easily one

1908
01:38:37,400 --> 01:38:40,439
Speaker 2: of the dumbest Things i've ever. Done it was so

1909
01:38:40,640 --> 01:38:44,520
Speaker 2: fucking stupid BECAUSE i GOT i finally got here twelve

1910
01:38:44,680 --> 01:38:47,360
Speaker 2: thirteen hours AFTER i left my, house thirteen hours AFTER

1911
01:38:47,360 --> 01:38:49,920
Speaker 2: i left my, house AND i felt Like i'd been

1912
01:38:50,000 --> 01:38:53,439
Speaker 2: hit by a fucking. Bus you know WHAT i, DID.

1913
01:38:53,479 --> 01:38:57,599
Speaker 2: BC i went to the local tienda AND i got

1914
01:38:57,600 --> 01:38:59,920
Speaker 2: some Survey sita AND i just got drunk and went.

1915
01:39:00,120 --> 01:39:03,920
Speaker 1: Sleep OH i thought you would buy the cocaina leaves

1916
01:39:03,960 --> 01:39:04,640
Speaker 1: and just chew on.

1917
01:39:04,680 --> 01:39:08,040
Speaker 2: Them, OKAY i, mean what are we? Doing. Here we're

1918
01:39:08,040 --> 01:39:10,040
Speaker 2: Not i'm not in the. Jungle see be a good.

1919
01:39:10,080 --> 01:39:14,000
Speaker 1: One, sorry, Sorry. Luke it's time for some restaurant. Fights

1920
01:39:14,000 --> 01:39:17,000
Speaker 1: you're always talking shit About. Arby's be, Careful. Luke they

1921
01:39:17,040 --> 01:39:18,559
Speaker 1: got they'll they'll mount.

1922
01:39:18,640 --> 01:39:19,920
Speaker 2: Up dad's.

1923
01:39:20,000 --> 01:39:24,280
Speaker 5: Pissed he's gonna fight the fry. Cook see's what. Happens

1924
01:39:24,320 --> 01:39:26,720
Speaker 5: you go into that, area you're in their. Land now

1925
01:39:26,760 --> 01:39:29,800
Speaker 5: you're In arby's. World In arby's, world they all stick

1926
01:39:29,880 --> 01:39:33,160
Speaker 5: up for each other because they're all making minimum. Wage but,

1927
01:39:33,240 --> 01:39:37,280
Speaker 5: they guys are those. Backs so don't go stepping back Into.

1928
01:39:37,439 --> 01:39:40,519
Speaker 5: Arby's they're gonna they're gonna get.

1929
01:39:40,560 --> 01:39:43,559
Speaker 1: You it's a fair warning right.

1930
01:39:43,560 --> 01:39:46,960
Speaker 2: There he's, like he's, like you, know he said that ship.

1931
01:39:47,000 --> 01:39:51,599
Speaker 2: Dippant he was, Like, yo you're An arby's. World let's

1932
01:39:51,640 --> 01:39:52,000
Speaker 2: go to the.

1933
01:39:52,000 --> 01:39:55,120
Speaker 1: Bar watch this old guy. Closely here a battle between

1934
01:39:55,160 --> 01:39:57,800
Speaker 1: young and. Old don't mess with, it old. Guys the

1935
01:39:57,840 --> 01:39:59,559
Speaker 1: last the power is the last thing to, Go.

1936
01:39:59,640 --> 01:40:02,599
Speaker 2: Luke you, know you know what is that? Is that

1937
01:40:02,720 --> 01:40:06,559
Speaker 2: is that Motherfucker Andy. Ruiz holy, sho look At Andy

1938
01:40:06,680 --> 01:40:09,200
Speaker 2: rues out there just beating up.

1939
01:40:09,240 --> 01:40:12,200
Speaker 1: Dogs, oh let's go To South. Texas this was in

1940
01:40:12,240 --> 01:40:16,000
Speaker 1: a water. Burger they'll throw down quick down there In, Texas,

1941
01:40:16,080 --> 01:40:17,360
Speaker 1: Luke they're not gonna have around all.

1942
01:40:17,400 --> 01:40:20,960
Speaker 2: Right what a? Burger more, like what a?

1943
01:40:20,960 --> 01:40:28,600
Speaker 1: Brawl yeah? Damn oh. Dude and he's hitting them with

1944
01:40:28,600 --> 01:40:32,000
Speaker 1: the legs of the. Chair oh fuck, yeah the guy's still.

1945
01:40:32,080 --> 01:40:34,479
Speaker 1: Standing look at cowboy hats getting involved now.

1946
01:40:34,520 --> 01:40:37,719
Speaker 2: Too look at. This look there's fifteen there's fifteen guys

1947
01:40:37,760 --> 01:40:40,679
Speaker 2: in this, brawl and not one of them has a good. Haircut, no,

1948
01:40:40,680 --> 01:40:41,240
Speaker 2: no not at.

1949
01:40:41,240 --> 01:40:43,479
Speaker 1: All by the, WAY i went into a Water burger

1950
01:40:43,760 --> 01:40:47,320
Speaker 1: two weeks ago In San, Antonio luke got the BlackBerry

1951
01:40:47,360 --> 01:40:50,000
Speaker 1: Doctor pepper. Milkshake changed my life.

1952
01:40:50,400 --> 01:40:52,519
Speaker 2: Change BlackBerry Doctor pepper.

1953
01:40:52,600 --> 01:40:58,080
Speaker 1: Milkshake it was, phenomenal just A AND i gotta be,

1954
01:40:58,120 --> 01:40:59,360
Speaker 1: honest it sounds pretty.

1955
01:40:59,360 --> 01:41:03,640
Speaker 2: GOOD i pretty. Great that's pretty. Good that sounds pretty, Good, Uh.

1956
01:41:03,720 --> 01:41:07,400
Speaker 1: Luke big weekend for the now first Place Chicago. Bears

1957
01:41:07,520 --> 01:41:10,320
Speaker 1: watch this fan who knows how to party bringing the

1958
01:41:10,360 --> 01:41:12,920
Speaker 1: old bag of cold. Spaghetti check it out?

1959
01:41:13,080 --> 01:41:17,080
Speaker 2: Right is this? Ai?

1960
01:41:17,880 --> 01:41:20,640
Speaker 1: No this is? Real you KNOW nfl, Fans, luke they.

1961
01:41:20,640 --> 01:41:22,599
Speaker 1: Don't they don't have, class, right you know WHAT i?

1962
01:41:22,600 --> 01:41:25,880
Speaker 2: Mean, dude why would you ever go to AN nfl?

1963
01:41:25,920 --> 01:41:29,280
Speaker 2: Game we are sitting next to somebody who's probably stabbed

1964
01:41:29,320 --> 01:41:33,240
Speaker 2: a person before eating spaghetti out of a plastic fucking.

1965
01:41:33,320 --> 01:41:37,679
Speaker 2: Bag just the, worst. DUDE nfl fans are the biggest.

1966
01:41:37,720 --> 01:41:40,559
Speaker 2: Degenerates they talk shit ABOUT mma. FANS nfl fans are

1967
01:41:40,640 --> 01:41:41,400
Speaker 2: far worse in my.

1968
01:41:41,439 --> 01:41:44,320
Speaker 1: Opinion, Well, luke The bears are in first, place and

1969
01:41:44,360 --> 01:41:48,000
Speaker 1: you know who celebrated, that friend of the, Program Ray.

1970
01:41:48,160 --> 01:41:54,000
Speaker 1: Flores oh, yeah why not come? Back he has gold

1971
01:41:54,080 --> 01:41:58,439
Speaker 1: Jr field out. Back jud how's?

1972
01:41:58,479 --> 01:41:58,519
Speaker 2: That?

1973
01:41:59,680 --> 01:42:06,520
Speaker 13: Yeah, yes, yes and a free face sucks less.

1974
01:42:09,000 --> 01:42:19,880
Speaker 14: Yeah well, yeah completely sober, too completely sober for that.

1975
01:42:19,960 --> 01:42:22,920
Speaker 2: One sober as, shit cold as. Fuck there's no hass.

1976
01:42:22,960 --> 01:42:25,280
Speaker 2: Bulla my man rides for The. Bears you know.

1977
01:42:25,280 --> 01:42:27,560
Speaker 1: What by the, WAY i enjoyed that shout out To

1978
01:42:27,640 --> 01:42:29,920
Speaker 1: ray because he when they, lose like normally they've been

1979
01:42:29,920 --> 01:42:31,800
Speaker 1: bad in the last three, years when they, lose he

1980
01:42:31,880 --> 01:42:36,400
Speaker 1: posts like the most downtrodden, depressed like recab videos of

1981
01:42:36,479 --> 01:42:39,080
Speaker 1: him talking about the. Game good For, ray all, Right

1982
01:42:39,160 --> 01:42:39,920
Speaker 1: that's What i'm talking.

1983
01:42:39,960 --> 01:42:42,760
Speaker 2: About and also that win was pretty. Cool it was

1984
01:42:42,800 --> 01:42:43,000
Speaker 2: a good.

1985
01:42:43,040 --> 01:42:45,880
Speaker 1: Win, yeah shout out to The bears, There. Luke these

1986
01:42:45,920 --> 01:42:49,160
Speaker 1: new husband wife trust challenge videos are getting out of control.

1987
01:42:49,200 --> 01:42:51,200
Speaker 1: Online you're gonna try this with the missus or? What?

1988
01:42:54,840 --> 01:42:57,760
Speaker 2: Bro i'm forty? Six do you THINK i trust the

1989
01:42:57,800 --> 01:43:03,320
Speaker 2: integrity of my? Stream are you kidding? Me meet? Me

1990
01:43:03,320 --> 01:43:07,320
Speaker 2: meet hey, Hey? Luke what fight are you looking forward

1991
01:43:07,360 --> 01:43:09,680
Speaker 2: to most of twenty twenty? Six? Yeah me versus my?

1992
01:43:09,760 --> 01:43:12,200
Speaker 2: Prostate that's What i'm looking forward. To that's gonna be

1993
01:43:12,200 --> 01:43:12,639
Speaker 2: an epic.

1994
01:43:12,680 --> 01:43:16,200
Speaker 1: Battle, Uh, Luke your toilet of the week is a high.

1995
01:43:16,200 --> 01:43:17,880
Speaker 1: Elevation one would you try this?

1996
01:43:17,920 --> 01:43:25,960
Speaker 2: ONE? I oh my, god show over, time show one more.

1997
01:43:25,960 --> 01:43:30,040
Speaker 1: Time those guys risking their lives to drop a, deuce, RIGHT.

1998
01:43:30,439 --> 01:43:36,200
Speaker 2: I would drop a deuce there with, great great regularity and. Joy,

1999
01:43:36,439 --> 01:43:37,040
Speaker 2: yes all?

2000
01:43:37,160 --> 01:43:39,880
Speaker 1: Right, uh your drunk piss of the week comes from

2001
01:43:39,880 --> 01:43:41,840
Speaker 1: this gentleman day drinking don over.

2002
01:43:41,880 --> 01:43:47,080
Speaker 2: Here uh, oh just hiding in the next to a gas.

2003
01:43:47,120 --> 01:43:50,240
Speaker 1: Station it appears, yep this guy's getting after it.

2004
01:43:50,280 --> 01:43:52,840
Speaker 2: Early, yeah he's. All i've been a, Brother i've been.

2005
01:43:52,880 --> 01:43:57,280
Speaker 2: There tell, you this is a very familiar fucking walk. HERE.

2006
01:43:57,360 --> 01:44:00,120
Speaker 1: Bc he's, trying he's trying to get the Right, okay

2007
01:44:00,160 --> 01:44:00,400
Speaker 1: there you.

2008
01:44:00,479 --> 01:44:02,960
Speaker 2: Go, hey, hey show me a video Of luke in his. Twenties,

2009
01:44:03,040 --> 01:44:03,880
Speaker 2: yeah it looks a lot like.

2010
01:44:03,920 --> 01:44:06,519
Speaker 1: That, yeah that does look a lot like, That. Luke

2011
01:44:06,560 --> 01:44:09,400
Speaker 1: you gotta be careful the way you handle. Scissors we

2012
01:44:09,400 --> 01:44:12,360
Speaker 1: were taught that very. Early, right here's A psa on.

2013
01:44:12,479 --> 01:44:15,599
Speaker 1: It sometimes you see people carrying scissors like, This, well that's.

2014
01:44:15,640 --> 01:44:17,280
Speaker 8: Wrong you're always supposed to carry them like.

2015
01:44:17,320 --> 01:44:21,680
Speaker 2: This here's why you and you're.

2016
01:44:21,720 --> 01:44:24,760
Speaker 13: Fine but if you're walking around with your scissors.

2017
01:44:24,400 --> 01:44:25,479
Speaker 2: Like this and then you, fall.

2018
01:44:31,560 --> 01:44:31,720
Speaker 4: It's.

2019
01:44:31,760 --> 01:44:33,800
Speaker 2: Good it's good that you're leaving the. Show it's. Good

2020
01:44:35,280 --> 01:44:36,240
Speaker 2: let's head over to the.

2021
01:44:36,280 --> 01:44:39,639
Speaker 1: Hardwood The New York knicks won that stupid regular season

2022
01:44:39,640 --> 01:44:43,200
Speaker 1: tournament they, had and watch the Way Josh hart celebrates

2023
01:44:43,240 --> 01:44:46,639
Speaker 1: With jalen brunson. Sphincter, luke look at. That, wow little

2024
01:44:46,880 --> 01:44:48,800
Speaker 1: little oil, change little how's your? Father?

2025
01:44:48,960 --> 01:44:50,400
Speaker 2: Right that's? Yeah what the?

2026
01:44:50,560 --> 01:44:53,960
Speaker 1: Fuck that's not A, I, luke that is NOT ai at.

2027
01:44:54,000 --> 01:44:54,200
Speaker 4: ALL.

2028
01:44:54,360 --> 01:44:56,479
Speaker 2: Bc you should be. Glad i've never done that to.

2029
01:44:56,520 --> 01:44:58,240
Speaker 2: You i've never done the. Old, yeah the.

2030
01:44:58,280 --> 01:45:00,760
Speaker 1: Old, yeah we don't have that in Our we touched,

2031
01:45:00,800 --> 01:45:02,000
Speaker 1: tips but not, this not.

2032
01:45:02,120 --> 01:45:02,200
Speaker 2: That.

2033
01:45:02,479 --> 01:45:05,880
Speaker 1: Uh also front row at AN nba game Was Floyd

2034
01:45:05,920 --> 01:45:09,040
Speaker 1: mayweather true to his. Brand, luke look at this stack

2035
01:45:09,120 --> 01:45:11,440
Speaker 1: he pulls out of the bag just casually.

2036
01:45:11,479 --> 01:45:14,280
Speaker 2: Counting does he also have a bag of spaghetti in?

2037
01:45:14,320 --> 01:45:19,120
Speaker 1: There, yeah just casually. Counting hondo's look at.

2038
01:45:19,160 --> 01:45:22,880
Speaker 2: That JAY z does not look, impressed not at.

2039
01:45:22,840 --> 01:45:26,360
Speaker 1: All not at. All uh watch THIS nba security guard

2040
01:45:26,520 --> 01:45:30,599
Speaker 1: reading the situation and executing.

2041
01:45:32,960 --> 01:45:42,799
Speaker 2: Right about. Now oh, oh oh, dude that was fucking, great, great.

2042
01:45:42,560 --> 01:45:44,880
Speaker 1: Great work right, there the swim move to get. Free,

2043
01:45:44,960 --> 01:45:47,640
Speaker 1: yeah let's go to the indoor soccer. Field watch the

2044
01:45:48,200 --> 01:45:53,479
Speaker 1: spectator in the upper deck here on this? Goalkick, oh

2045
01:45:53,840 --> 01:45:55,120
Speaker 1: why don't watch the? Ball?

2046
01:45:55,200 --> 01:45:57,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah direct hit you dumb.

2047
01:45:57,400 --> 01:46:00,800
Speaker 1: Ass it was unfortunately a young, girl. Luke but you

2048
01:46:00,800 --> 01:46:03,800
Speaker 1: know that's. Whatever hey new meaning to the phrase nose.

2049
01:46:03,840 --> 01:46:05,439
Speaker 1: Beers you're In, colombia you know about.

2050
01:46:05,439 --> 01:46:12,160
Speaker 2: This i've seen this motherfucker. Before he's. Gross. Great, yeah

2051
01:46:12,400 --> 01:46:16,960
Speaker 2: watch this, shit, yo look at his. Eyeballs, Yo oh my,

2052
01:46:17,080 --> 01:46:18,120
Speaker 2: god how do you is that?

2053
01:46:18,120 --> 01:46:20,040
Speaker 1: POSSIBLE i don't even know how that's. Possible wouldn't you?

2054
01:46:20,160 --> 01:46:23,160
Speaker 2: CHOKE i mean he's got some way to control, it,

2055
01:46:23,320 --> 01:46:26,760
Speaker 2: obviously but you know he's gonna die. Soon let's just be. Hones,

2056
01:46:26,880 --> 01:46:30,439
Speaker 2: YEAH i, mean, no no one who does this lives

2057
01:46:30,439 --> 01:46:32,560
Speaker 2: to be a grand, parent, right.

2058
01:46:32,520 --> 01:46:35,040
Speaker 1: That's a fair. Point that's a fair. Point it was

2059
01:46:35,080 --> 01:46:41,720
Speaker 1: either that or what was That William honk song she? Bang, yeah,

2060
01:46:41,760 --> 01:46:44,080
Speaker 1: yeah it was either that or. That all, Right luca's

2061
01:46:44,160 --> 01:46:46,240
Speaker 1: time to rate that tat one to ten ten and

2062
01:46:46,439 --> 01:46:50,160
Speaker 1: Artistic genius wanted to. Backle let's go TO Ufc rising

2063
01:46:50,160 --> 01:46:55,080
Speaker 1: Welterweight Michael, morales who who was put to sleep with

2064
01:46:55,240 --> 01:46:58,000
Speaker 1: six different artists to get this backsplash your.

2065
01:46:58,000 --> 01:47:03,840
Speaker 2: THOUGHTS i don't love. It it's not that there's not

2066
01:47:03,960 --> 01:47:06,280
Speaker 2: parts of it that are well, done but it's a

2067
01:47:06,280 --> 01:47:09,599
Speaker 2: bit of a confused kind of artistic. Look number one

2068
01:47:09,600 --> 01:47:12,439
Speaker 2: and number two it's a little hard to, read, Right

2069
01:47:12,520 --> 01:47:16,760
Speaker 2: it's hard to tell what's what in parts of. These you,

2070
01:47:16,800 --> 01:47:20,400
Speaker 2: know it's it's it's it's cohesive in terms of like

2071
01:47:20,439 --> 01:47:23,160
Speaker 2: the physical location and. Everything obviously it spans the entirety

2072
01:47:23,200 --> 01:47:25,439
Speaker 2: of the. Back but this is a problem with, tattoos

2073
01:47:25,439 --> 01:47:27,200
Speaker 2: and it's a problem THAT i have, too which is

2074
01:47:28,080 --> 01:47:29,840
Speaker 2: it takes people a little while to figure out what

2075
01:47:29,880 --> 01:47:31,640
Speaker 2: their style, is and then by that point you've got

2076
01:47:31,680 --> 01:47:34,719
Speaker 2: a mixed mash of different tattoo styles and your body

2077
01:47:34,720 --> 01:47:36,280
Speaker 2: looks like some fucking kids scribbled on.

2078
01:47:36,320 --> 01:47:39,639
Speaker 1: It so you know you're gonna need a Rating, Luke i'm,

2079
01:47:39,640 --> 01:47:42,200
Speaker 1: sorry that's the name of the. Segment you, know rate

2080
01:47:42,280 --> 01:47:43,040
Speaker 1: that tat.

2081
01:47:43,000 --> 01:47:49,479
Speaker 2: RIGHT i mean, Six i'll give it a, six, okay.

2082
01:47:49,600 --> 01:47:54,280
Speaker 1: Okay our second one is a holiday themed For christmas.

2083
01:47:54,320 --> 01:47:57,000
Speaker 1: Time There's marv and the other.

2084
01:47:57,040 --> 01:48:00,200
Speaker 2: Guy that's pretty. GOOD i give that one maybe an

2085
01:48:00,240 --> 01:48:01,000
Speaker 2: and a, half.

2086
01:48:01,080 --> 01:48:02,720
Speaker 1: All, right all, RIGHT i like. That you can see

2087
01:48:02,720 --> 01:48:06,639
Speaker 1: the iron stain on his forehead. There and finally we're

2088
01:48:06,680 --> 01:48:11,040
Speaker 1: GOING wwf theme this time with a little stone cold stone. Cold.

2089
01:48:11,080 --> 01:48:13,599
Speaker 2: LOOK i, mean you know, Me i'm not the biggest

2090
01:48:13,640 --> 01:48:15,680
Speaker 2: pro wrestling, guy but this is clearly a ten out of.

2091
01:48:15,680 --> 01:48:16,360
Speaker 2: Ten let's be off.

2092
01:48:16,400 --> 01:48:19,160
Speaker 1: Here, yeah thank you very. MUCH i appreciated, that all.

2093
01:48:19,280 --> 01:48:22,000
Speaker 1: Right this week in child birthday, cakes you gotta be

2094
01:48:22,040 --> 01:48:25,120
Speaker 1: careful when you're the designer writing. It that was supposed

2095
01:48:25,120 --> 01:48:33,439
Speaker 1: to say happy, birthday rebel. SCUM i didn't notice it at.

2096
01:48:33,439 --> 01:48:35,240
Speaker 2: FIRST i was, like why did she right come on

2097
01:48:35,280 --> 01:48:36,040
Speaker 2: the cake.

2098
01:48:35,800 --> 01:48:40,479
Speaker 1: And oh, right, yeah, yeah that's. Great our second, one

2099
01:48:40,560 --> 01:48:43,000
Speaker 1: let's go to the kid's birthday party once. More watch

2100
01:48:43,080 --> 01:48:46,960
Speaker 1: this kid here as he's blowing it. Out he's, like

2101
01:48:47,000 --> 01:48:48,759
Speaker 1: screw blowing it. Out let me inhale.

2102
01:48:48,800 --> 01:48:50,800
Speaker 2: It hell, yeah let me get let me get a

2103
01:48:50,880 --> 01:48:51,200
Speaker 2: hit off.

2104
01:48:51,200 --> 01:48:55,240
Speaker 1: That, yeah let me smell. It, yeah all, right great stuff.

2105
01:48:55,280 --> 01:48:59,080
Speaker 1: There let's go to the shopping, mall a dying art

2106
01:48:59,120 --> 01:49:03,240
Speaker 1: from our youth. Loop here's your parkour shopping mall.

2107
01:49:03,120 --> 01:49:05,640
Speaker 2: Move of the. Week does this?

2108
01:49:05,720 --> 01:49:09,160
Speaker 1: Mall oh, shit that's.

2109
01:49:09,160 --> 01:49:14,559
Speaker 2: Insane that is. Insane. Yo you don't appreciate, this AND

2110
01:49:14,600 --> 01:49:17,800
Speaker 2: i didn't UNTIL i got here, either. Dude, columbia the

2111
01:49:17,920 --> 01:49:20,439
Speaker 2: shopping malls here are it's like being back in the.

2112
01:49:20,560 --> 01:49:25,160
Speaker 2: Nineties i'm not. Exaggerating everybody's. There all the major shops are.

2113
01:49:25,200 --> 01:49:28,920
Speaker 2: There they're packed all the, time and they're they're they're

2114
01:49:28,960 --> 01:49:31,920
Speaker 2: they're nice and shit. Like it's it's like our teams

2115
01:49:32,040 --> 01:49:34,720
Speaker 2: all over again. Here i'm not sure why columbianal culture.

2116
01:49:34,400 --> 01:49:37,760
Speaker 1: Is Way San. Juan WHEN i was In San, juana call,

2117
01:49:37,800 --> 01:49:40,880
Speaker 1: fights the shopping malls were like it had that same

2118
01:49:40,960 --> 01:49:43,439
Speaker 1: vibe of like everybody in line At Orange. Julius it was.

2119
01:49:43,520 --> 01:49:45,680
Speaker 4: GREAT i very quickly just want to SAY i was

2120
01:49:45,680 --> 01:49:46,400
Speaker 4: at the mall.

2121
01:49:46,280 --> 01:49:49,240
Speaker 3: Yesterday and they had a foe go to Chow, luke

2122
01:49:49,400 --> 01:49:51,000
Speaker 3: the place you've talked about this whole.

2123
01:49:51,000 --> 01:49:53,160
Speaker 4: Time they have, One so NOW i gotta go check that.

2124
01:49:53,200 --> 01:49:56,320
Speaker 2: Out, yeah they're expensive and the food's not that. Great it's,

2125
01:49:56,360 --> 01:49:58,240
Speaker 2: okay but like they'll bring you a bunch of. It

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01:49:58,520 --> 01:50:00,280
Speaker 2: that's that's the. Key all.

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01:50:00,360 --> 01:50:02,200
Speaker 1: Right, look we've got two more for you to close.

2128
01:50:02,240 --> 01:50:07,040
Speaker 1: Here let's watch this news broadcast very. Closely what do

2129
01:50:07,080 --> 01:50:07,760
Speaker 1: you have going on for?

2130
01:50:07,840 --> 01:50:10,719
Speaker 9: Us they're still inside searching for. Evidence i'm told six

2131
01:50:10,760 --> 01:50:14,559
Speaker 9: people have been arrested and charged with intent to possess

2132
01:50:14,720 --> 01:50:17,680
Speaker 9: and deliver. Cocaine i'm told as much as forty four

2133
01:50:17,720 --> 01:50:20,519
Speaker 9: pounds of. Cocaine AS i, said they're still. Inside they

2134
01:50:20,600 --> 01:50:23,240
Speaker 9: used a bannering ram to break through glass in a

2135
01:50:23,280 --> 01:50:26,320
Speaker 9: steel reinforced door. Here we first heard about it through

2136
01:50:26,320 --> 01:50:27,599
Speaker 9: a tip line call early this.

2137
01:50:27,640 --> 01:50:33,599
Speaker 1: Afternoon they couldn't used that prosthetic to open the, door, RIGHT.

2138
01:50:34,680 --> 01:50:38,240
Speaker 2: I, mean some of these dogs are. Weapons, Brother that's

2139
01:50:38,280 --> 01:50:39,120
Speaker 2: just how it goes out.

2140
01:50:39,120 --> 01:50:42,720
Speaker 1: There, luke have you tried The Apple vision pro? Yet

2141
01:50:42,800 --> 01:50:44,519
Speaker 1: are you expecting one under your tree For?

2142
01:50:44,600 --> 01:50:48,519
Speaker 2: Christmas i'd rather get fucked to death by Eight Dick Walras, no.

2143
01:50:48,840 --> 01:50:51,200
Speaker 1: All, right, well this guy shows how it's. Done they

2144
01:50:51,200 --> 01:50:52,639
Speaker 1: don't try it on The Apple Vision.

2145
01:50:52,640 --> 01:50:52,800
Speaker 11: Pro.

2146
01:50:53,240 --> 01:51:06,040
Speaker 10: No, yeah that's all the that's all the ship sensors could, happen,

2147
01:51:07,040 --> 01:51:09,680
Speaker 10: right all, right you know, what you know?

2148
01:51:09,720 --> 01:51:10,160
Speaker 2: What you know?

2149
01:51:10,240 --> 01:51:17,280
Speaker 1: What that's a Bee's, Yeah i'll take up IF i have, to, Right, Yeah, hey.

2150
01:51:17,160 --> 01:51:19,320
Speaker 2: Listen beggars can't be. Choosers it's.

2151
01:51:19,439 --> 01:51:22,040
Speaker 1: True all. Right that's all the ship we, Got that's

2152
01:51:22,080 --> 01:51:25,680
Speaker 1: all the show we. Got thank you so much for

2153
01:51:25,720 --> 01:51:28,559
Speaker 1: tuning in A Long Island. Luke what's going on with

2154
01:51:28,600 --> 01:51:32,040
Speaker 1: the merch these? Days? Brother the?

2155
01:51:32,080 --> 01:51:35,679
Speaker 3: Merch we have only the lucha posters, left and there's

2156
01:51:35,720 --> 01:51:37,160
Speaker 3: only like one or two of them.

2157
01:51:37,240 --> 01:51:39,120
Speaker 4: Left so if anyone wants A BC.

2158
01:51:39,840 --> 01:51:43,920
Speaker 3: Lt autographed lucha, poster you got two chances to get.

2159
01:51:43,960 --> 01:51:47,960
Speaker 4: It other than that shirt's fully. Available everyone can get.

2160
01:51:47,880 --> 01:51:52,040
Speaker 1: Them shop, baby get Our december exclusive there with The

2161
01:51:52,080 --> 01:51:55,000
Speaker 1: masters of The. Universe, uh and of course mix and

2162
01:51:55,080 --> 01:51:58,280
Speaker 1: match the, colors you, know GET i mean you probably

2163
01:51:58,280 --> 01:52:01,080
Speaker 1: can't get it For, christmas but you at it For Valentine's,

2164
01:52:01,160 --> 01:52:03,640
Speaker 1: Day so that's a great way to save a. Relationship

2165
01:52:03,680 --> 01:52:06,200
Speaker 1: get a fifty percent OFF t shirt with BC's face on,

2166
01:52:06,280 --> 01:52:09,679
Speaker 1: It Long, Island. Luke can we be expecting content from?

2167
01:52:09,720 --> 01:52:11,720
Speaker 1: You or is this a holiday? Week what's going?

2168
01:52:11,760 --> 01:52:13,840
Speaker 3: ON i will have two videos this, week but they're

2169
01:52:13,880 --> 01:52:15,559
Speaker 3: not coming out till later in the Week, Friday i'll

2170
01:52:15,560 --> 01:52:17,639
Speaker 3: have a new episode of Prop Quiz. SATURDAY i did

2171
01:52:17,640 --> 01:52:20,840
Speaker 3: a whole channel recap of all my bets at our

2172
01:52:20,880 --> 01:52:23,559
Speaker 3: topology league kind of. Everything it's only like five minutes,

2173
01:52:23,600 --> 01:52:25,880
Speaker 3: long But i'll put that Out saturday if anyone's interested in.

2174
01:52:25,920 --> 01:52:30,000
Speaker 1: That all, RIGHT lt we will be recording tomorrow and

2175
01:52:30,200 --> 01:52:33,840
Speaker 1: a very fun episode that will air In Friday spot This,

2176
01:52:33,960 --> 01:52:37,840
Speaker 1: Friday december twenty, sixth eleven Am. Eastern should we tease

2177
01:52:37,880 --> 01:52:38,640
Speaker 1: it or just let it?

2178
01:52:38,720 --> 01:52:41,920
Speaker 2: Flow don't tease, it let it. FLOW i think it'll

2179
01:52:41,920 --> 01:52:42,920
Speaker 2: be a nice surprise for the.

2180
01:52:42,960 --> 01:52:46,200
Speaker 1: Dogs all, right all, right you have that to look forward.

2181
01:52:46,200 --> 01:52:50,959
Speaker 1: TO lt as, people of, course can like, subscribe continue

2182
01:52:51,000 --> 01:52:53,639
Speaker 1: to support this. Show, yeah all you divorced dads audio

2183
01:52:53,800 --> 01:52:57,000
Speaker 1: only there in the grocery. Store we got. You we feel. You,

2184
01:52:57,080 --> 01:53:01,559
Speaker 1: okay you're probably feeling yourself right now, too but we feel. You,

2185
01:53:02,200 --> 01:53:05,440
Speaker 1: luke what are you feeling as we enter The christmas

2186
01:53:05,600 --> 01:53:08,000
Speaker 1: holiday season? HERE i, mean it's it's all about tukes

2187
01:53:08,000 --> 01:53:08,160
Speaker 1: in the.

2188
01:53:08,280 --> 01:53:12,240
Speaker 2: End, yeah and ALSO i gotta take a, Shit so that's.

2189
01:53:12,240 --> 01:53:12,800
Speaker 1: Great that's.

2190
01:53:12,840 --> 01:53:15,680
Speaker 4: Great all, Right So.

2191
01:53:15,720 --> 01:53:18,240
Speaker 1: Luke you'll be back In, Colombia so we'll be back

2192
01:53:18,280 --> 01:53:23,080
Speaker 1: On Friday monday after, that don't forget the FINAL bc Episode,

2193
01:53:23,120 --> 01:53:27,840
Speaker 1: Monday january, Fifth so get tuned in for, that and most,

2194
01:53:27,840 --> 01:53:31,760
Speaker 1: importantly have a great, holiday whether you celebrate The, christmas The,

2195
01:53:31,840 --> 01:53:36,120
Speaker 1: kwansa The Eight nights Of, hanukah whatever you're, into get

2196
01:53:36,160 --> 01:53:40,439
Speaker 1: with the, family don't, stress enjoy, it, RIGHT i, mean,

2197
01:53:40,479 --> 01:53:44,839
Speaker 1: look you're not getting into Political american debates down there In, colombia, Right, no.

2198
01:53:44,720 --> 01:53:47,040
Speaker 2: But they had a lot of questions for me. Yesterday

2199
01:53:47,320 --> 01:53:50,800
Speaker 2: they had a lot of questions for, Me so that was.

2200
01:53:50,840 --> 01:53:52,240
Speaker 2: FUN i had a good time with.

2201
01:53:52,320 --> 01:53:56,240
Speaker 1: That, yeah you're gonna go maybe get on one of

2202
01:53:56,280 --> 01:53:59,160
Speaker 1: Those venezuelan tankers out in the, ocean just for a.

2203
01:53:59,120 --> 01:54:03,200
Speaker 2: Little, no, no, NO i will. You you might. Listen

2204
01:54:03,240 --> 01:54:08,519
Speaker 2: you might see someone done high on a speedboat on you,

2205
01:54:08,520 --> 01:54:10,560
Speaker 2: know on social media when it gets bombed by a.

2206
01:54:10,640 --> 01:54:12,960
Speaker 2: Drone BUT i won't be on. It i'm gonna be landlocked.

2207
01:54:12,960 --> 01:54:14,559
Speaker 2: Here i'm gonna be taking good care of.

2208
01:54:14,600 --> 01:54:17,360
Speaker 1: Myself, yes all, right that's great stuff. THERE i wish

2209
01:54:17,360 --> 01:54:20,479
Speaker 1: you guys a fantastic holiday. Season, LUKE i Hope tukes

2210
01:54:20,560 --> 01:54:23,840
Speaker 1: has the best time of her. Life enjoy Everything columbia

2211
01:54:23,960 --> 01:54:27,559
Speaker 1: has to offer for. You same thing with The. NOSITAS i,

2212
01:54:27,600 --> 01:54:30,080
Speaker 1: mean get high On. Christmas do it. Right let's do

2213
01:54:30,160 --> 01:54:34,200
Speaker 1: it right, Appreciation let's do it all you people out,

2214
01:54:34,200 --> 01:54:37,240
Speaker 1: there enjoy. It it's the end of the. Year next

2215
01:54:37,280 --> 01:54:39,160
Speaker 1: year is going to be even. Better, okay believe in,

2216
01:54:39,200 --> 01:54:41,800
Speaker 1: yourself take care of. Yourself we love. You we'll be Back.

2217
01:54:41,840 --> 01:54:44,240
Speaker 1: Friday it's gonna be a fun. One so get ready

2218
01:54:44,240 --> 01:54:47,280
Speaker 1: as you're throwing away all that wrapping. Paper for the

2219
01:54:47,400 --> 01:54:51,320
Speaker 1: great people that work on this, Show Matt, Snyder Long, Island,

2220
01:54:51,440 --> 01:54:54,200
Speaker 1: luke The Great Brian, daily we wish them as. Well

2221
01:54:54,680 --> 01:54:58,160
Speaker 1: everyone at all the smoke. Fight Merry, Christmas Happy, holidays

2222
01:54:58,640 --> 01:55:02,960
Speaker 1: and thank you to our incredible listeners and. Viewers it's

2223
01:55:03,000 --> 01:55:05,360
Speaker 1: been such a great. Run it'll keep. Going it's going to.

2224
01:55:05,400 --> 01:55:09,400
Speaker 1: Continue Merry, Christmas Happy New. Year FROM mk with, love

2225
01:55:09,640 --> 01:55:10,280
Speaker 1: we're out. Here