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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to this brand new edition of Big

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Speaker 1: Fish Small Pod. And if you are into the small Pod,

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Speaker 1: he would like to give you all the information about

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Speaker 1: the Marlins for that specific day in ten minutes or less.

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Speaker 1: And here is a continuation of my brand new series

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Speaker 1: where our interview fans, media, members of the Marlons community

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Speaker 1: and get their input on how the Marlins have been

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Speaker 1: this off season and their projection for this coming year.

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Speaker 1: And of course my guests from Lemon City Live multiple times,

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Speaker 1: Jeopardy Champion Alex agate it. Alex is always great to

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Speaker 1: have you on.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Daniel, I appreciate it, and thank you for

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Speaker 2: mentioning the back to back Marlin Jeopardy champion. You can

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Speaker 2: never leave that out, but thank you for having me on.

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Speaker 2: And I'm looking forward to talking about this upcoming Marlin

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Speaker 2: season and what their off season has been like.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's start things off. It hasn't been the off

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Speaker 1: season where Marlon's fans and personnel have been looking at

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Speaker 1: waiting for no free agent signings, are at least no

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Speaker 1: major league free agent signings. It seems like they're more

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Speaker 1: focused of right now retooling the front office and getting

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Speaker 1: things situated they're compared to on the field. But what

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Speaker 1: has been your lookout this off season? What have you seen?

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Speaker 1: Are you disappointed? Just what is your being your I

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Speaker 1: don't want to say review, but looking at this off

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Speaker 1: season so far for the.

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Speaker 2: Fish, well, my brief review, I guess, or my brief

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Speaker 2: You know, there are they have There have been some

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Speaker 2: bright spots because they could have you know, missed out

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Speaker 2: and resigning you know Bell. But you know, in the

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Speaker 2: long stretch of the off season, that's pretty much been

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Speaker 2: the high point if you if you were to ask me,

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Speaker 2: they've made a lot more moves behind the scenes in

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Speaker 2: the front office, but that's in my opinion, the brighter

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Speaker 2: spot of this off season for the Fish.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's tons of new hires there. Peter Bendix. Gabe

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Speaker 1: kapler To mentioned, what are you seeing on this front office?

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Speaker 1: What do you think of maybe be Bendix's style in

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Speaker 1: maybe his more analytical approach to the game.

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Speaker 2: Well, you name it right there. The margins are going

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Speaker 2: more I think analytical heavy. I know there was a

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Speaker 2: bit of that, I would say clash, but there was

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Speaker 2: a bit of heads buttting a bit when Don Manningly

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Speaker 2: getting heavier into analytics and which is fine and all,

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Speaker 2: but it's always good to have that cohesiveness with your

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Speaker 2: If we're gonna go with you know, stat's driven, or

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Speaker 2: So if that's so, I'm glad the front office is

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Speaker 2: already setting a tone with in that regard. Now, Skip,

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Speaker 2: we've noticed, even this is one year in Miami that

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Speaker 2: he does go by the stats. He does, you know,

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Speaker 2: But he's also shown in different occasions that he'll go

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Speaker 2: So he does he at least he's able to bend

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Speaker 2: And he is bringing a Tampa Bay approach. They're a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're definitely looking for that consistency. We've seen them

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Speaker 2: I'm a little I have a little mixed bit of

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Speaker 2: from a standpoint of, well, you're losing Sandy for the

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Speaker 2: So you lost your ace, you lost your horse. Now

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Speaker 2: you're thinking of trading your number two. Who is going

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty was fun and all, but it's been twenty years,

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Speaker 2: side of the coin is going back to what I

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Speaker 2: mentioned earlier, the Tampa Bay approach. Right now, the Marlins

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Speaker 2: They actually have a couple of good guys here and there.

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Speaker 2: But but what made Tampa Bay consistent and you know

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Speaker 2: that consistent success. Yes, you know they didn't win at all,

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Speaker 2: like I said, but they're As a fan, you know,

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Speaker 2: Kind of like the Miami Heat down here. They're gonna

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Speaker 2: You got to build from the ground up, especially if

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Speaker 2: other side of the coin is, yeah, can find trade Lessarto,

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Speaker 2: you better be damn sure that you're getting high quality

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Speaker 2: So I hope this, you know, these this fresh mindset,

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Speaker 2: So there's you know, it's it's a love hate feeling

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Speaker 2: what I have with these trade rumors. If it happens,

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Speaker 2: it sucks. But if it doesn't, great, you know we're

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Speaker 2: still gonna be be a little competitive with a rotation.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't want to go ahead and have these

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Speaker 1: and you trade them all the trium to Baltimore Stream,

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Speaker 1: getting out Rachel Blackovetch from the Yankees organizations, she could

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Speaker 1: for you, just overlooking twenty twenty four, it's relatively the

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Speaker 2: And then notice how that some of them have raised

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Speaker 2: up with maybe Peter's up to something that we don't know.

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Speaker 1: Babe Kapler played for the Rays while Peter was there. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's a very they definitely want to get the raise

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Speaker 2: You know, man, I think eighty one wins is a

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Speaker 2: that's you know, that's that's just the reality. You lost

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Speaker 2: But you lose your horse. Now you're putting your other

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Speaker 2: they're also they're also you know, they lost Jorge Solaire.

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Speaker 2: He opted out of his contract you're losing one of

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Speaker 2: understand his side of things. It's smarter him to opt out,

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Speaker 2: another ballplayer that's available that can you know, it's kind

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Speaker 2: I don't think this team can kind of replicate what

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Speaker 2: So there is things to look forward to. But Marlins

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Speaker 2: lacked in power yet even with Jorge Soulier's thump in

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Speaker 2: So the Marlins are still in a tough division and

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Speaker 2: and you lose your horse. I get it, you lose

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Speaker 2: your Ace and Sandy. But you know, you put some

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Speaker 2: move that's okay, find another guy to fill in that

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Speaker 2: The top of the depth chart is John Birdie. There's

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been very difficult, you know, not at least

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Speaker 1: you're pupping them up one. You're asking Lazardo to go

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Speaker 2: This is the question Marks.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully by the time spring training roles around, the at

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Speaker 2: Wow? Okay, hmmm, as much criticism and as much I

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Speaker 2: he like, we'll see, he's like his tenure in Miami

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Speaker 1: Let's do it too.

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Speaker 3: Two from my Ada, it's what is hit a ton

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Speaker 3: way out of here to left field home? Ron Auby Garcia,

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Speaker 3: what nothing, Marlins.

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Speaker 1: I like to answer. I like to answer, Alex. I

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Speaker 1: appreciate you. Coming on is a little more than ten minutes.

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Speaker 1: But when I'm talking to you, it flies by, it

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Speaker 1: flies by.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate it. Thank you so much for having me, Daniel,

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Speaker 2: And sorry to your listeners. I broke the promise of

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Speaker 2: be a man of my word and will be under

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Speaker 2: ten minutes. But I got you know, I get them.

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Speaker 2: I get into it, get into my response.

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Speaker 1: It had to be done. It had to be done. Wow,

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Speaker 1: thank you coming on,