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Speaker 1: In the Lab, a Texans podcast that takes a different

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Speaker 1: look at things. Due Doherty and John Harris have their

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Speaker 1: lab coats and goggles on and the Bunsen burners burning.

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Speaker 1: Here's Drew.

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Speaker 2: Hey, John, good to see you.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 2: You do it all right?

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Speaker 4: Okay, not so great after Sunday, Drew, but doing the

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Speaker 4: best that we can and getting ready for the Jacksonville jaguarres.

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Speaker 3: Exactly, exactly, man, It's gonna be with you. It's gonna

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Speaker 2: All right, we're gonna do a few things.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna raise a glass a little bit later on.

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Speaker 3: We're going to have our cream of the cropper as well.

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Speaker 3: But we're gonna start with, Oh, you know, all the

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Speaker 3: stuff that's been going on this week, and I've heard

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Speaker 3: lots of chatter about, well, why is this happening? And

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Speaker 3: why is that happening? But what about how do you

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Speaker 3: fix this? And what I'm talking about is the penalties

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Speaker 3: and one of the things I'm imagining the Texans are

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Speaker 3: probably gonna do, and you'll probably see this week at practice.

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Speaker 3: You see them on a fairly regular basis. Officials out

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Speaker 3: of practice, referees out of practice. And when I say that,

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Speaker 3: I think a lot of people might think, well, yeah, no, duh,

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Speaker 3: Well that's not actually the case. You don't always have

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Speaker 3: officials or referees at practices, but a lot of times

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Speaker 3: in instances where teams are working on well, we want

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Speaker 3: to make sure that we're following this letter of the law,

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Speaker 3: this rule, they'll bring in referees who are local college

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Speaker 3: refs or local high school refs, so, you know, accomplish

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Speaker 3: guys who are doing this and have done this for

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Speaker 3: a long time. And they'll have a crew that's going

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Speaker 3: to flag you for a false start, it's going to

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Speaker 3: flag you for an illegal formation, they'll flag you for whatever.

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Speaker 3: You're trying to kind of nitpick and correct and get

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Speaker 3: better at it.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, they might not do that this week,

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Speaker 3: who knows, but I would be surprised if you don't

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Speaker 3: see him out there at least one practice, if not more.

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Speaker 3: But John, there's there's a lot of different ways, excuse me,

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Speaker 3: to go about fixing some of the mistakes that the

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Speaker 3: Texans have been making. And I'm not ready to panic,

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Speaker 3: but I think they can get these things corrected. And

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Speaker 3: I think that's just one small way, one small thing

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Speaker 3: that they can wind up doing. But all in all,

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Speaker 3: what are your thoughts on, Okay, that's all behind and

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Speaker 3: that's happened. How do you make it better? What do

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Speaker 3: you do to correct what's been going on?

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Speaker 4: Well, they have officials at practice. I don't want to

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Speaker 4: say one hundred percent and stamp that. I know that

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Speaker 4: for sure, but right I can't remember a practice where

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Speaker 4: the officials were not there.

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Speaker 2: Now. One of the things that.

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Speaker 4: I it's going to be kind of interesting is when

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Speaker 4: you do bring the officials because you can't get NFL

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Speaker 4: officials the guys.

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Speaker 2: Actually officiate the game after practice.

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Speaker 4: So you do get college officials, you know, sometimes higher

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Speaker 4: level high school officials. What ends up being an issue

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Speaker 4: is sometimes the focus for those guys is in their

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Speaker 4: sports is not what it is in the NFL, and

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Speaker 4: you have to make sure that you understand, like, for example,

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Speaker 4: where offensive linemen line up, because it's gotten over the years,

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Speaker 4: it's gotten pretty like pretty rough, Like you would look

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Speaker 2: The Z off the in the z's off the ball.

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Speaker 4: Mm hm, Like okay, those two are on the same line,

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Speaker 4: Like that can't be the case. And so the NFL

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Speaker 4: really starting in game one of the season, the Ravens

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Speaker 4: and Chiefs made a point, you're gonna line up properly

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Speaker 4: in that game, the same crew that was there or

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Speaker 4: you got to make your you got to make your

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Speaker 4: adjustments now. Defensively, when it came to penalties, they called

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Speaker 4: Jalen Petree for an interference down a field that wasn't

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Speaker 4: even close to interference.

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Speaker 2: Like I watched that play.

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Speaker 4: I was watching it in real time because I was like,

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Speaker 4: I knew it was a it was some sort of flee,

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Speaker 4: was actually watching Johnny Munt and Jalen Petrie and I'm like,

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Speaker 4: when they threw a flag, I was furious because yeah,

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Speaker 4: I mean, there was there was no contact whatsoever.

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Speaker 2: Jalen wasn't riding him down the field.

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Speaker 4: So from that perspective, defensively, I don't know that there's

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Speaker 4: I don't want to say major concern as it pertains

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Speaker 4: to penalties. Honestly, I feel like this has been an

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Speaker 4: offensive holding. On the first play of the game. You know,

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Speaker 4: the interception right afterwards was kind of a fluky one

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Speaker 4: because Kama gruge Hill, the linebacker the Vikings is way

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Speaker 2: It was a gift and that is wide open.

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Speaker 4: If somehow Harrison Phillips does get a hand on it,

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Speaker 4: tanks wide open, he catches it, that's a ten to

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Speaker 4: twelve yard gain at least.

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Speaker 2: And so now you're second eight, second and seven. Now

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Speaker 2: you're kind of off and rolling.

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Speaker 4: But the ball to flex all the way over to

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Speaker 4: a misplaced linebacker and away you go. But the.

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Speaker 2: Illegal formation, the snap, you.

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Speaker 4: Know, a lot of it boils down to the front

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Speaker 4: five guys. And look, you don't want to point fingers

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Speaker 4: all on one spot, but it's just look at the

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Speaker 4: penalty numbers and look how many of them were due

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Speaker 4: to offensive line or tight ends. And that's something that

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Speaker 4: you gotta that those groups are going to have to

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Speaker 4: either realize this is the way it's called and you're

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Speaker 4: going to adapt to it, or you're going to Committe

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Speaker 4: continue to commit penalties and hurt this team. And I'm

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Speaker 4: hoping you're not picking the ladder of that. I hope

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Speaker 4: you're picking the former of Like, Okay, this is what

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Speaker 4: we gotta do change it. This is how they want

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Speaker 4: to call it, This is how we got to change it. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: and hopefully the officials that are there to practice this

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Speaker 4: the process of you know, if the tackle has to

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Speaker 4: get up there, if Titus and laram you have to

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Speaker 4: look across the refid go am I good?

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Speaker 2: Am I good? Yes, you're good.

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Speaker 4: At the same time, the wide receivers are going I'm

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Speaker 2: And you know, there are times in which the NFL

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Speaker 4: I don't I don't know the right way of saying it,

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Speaker 4: but I don't want it to come across as I'm complaining.

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Speaker 4: But I remember last year and when the Bills played

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Speaker 4: I can't remember who was runs it for a touchdown

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Speaker 4: to place goes Nuts is a flag. Kadarius Tony is

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Speaker 4: offside because he lined up with his foot on the

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Speaker 4: line of scrimmage. And it became this thing. Well, the

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Speaker 4: NFL hadn't emphasized it up until then, and now you're

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Speaker 4: you've got to understand kind of what the flavored azure

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Speaker 4: is for how the NFL is calling it. And you know,

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Speaker 4: if there is a real focus on holding because your

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Speaker 2: Okay, you got to make your adjustment.

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Speaker 4: Your a NFL player, You've got to make the adjustments

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Speaker 4: calling those games.

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Speaker 2: And that's just as simple as that. Yeah. But I

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Speaker 3: I want to turn things to the positive now. I

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Speaker 3: want to raise a glass, raise a glass of medelo,

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Speaker 3: because hey, the good guys are back at home at

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Speaker 3: anargy stadium. That's something to look forward to. And it's

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Speaker 3: another thing to look forward to because you're playing the Jaguars.

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Speaker 3: And now this is a we're in weird territory right now,

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Speaker 3: because think about it, over the last four contests with

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Speaker 2: You're two and two. Yep.

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Speaker 3: But let's go back. Let's do a little bit of

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Speaker 3: a history lesson. We've done this history lesson before, if

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Speaker 3: you've watched or listened to in the lab over the years.

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Speaker 3: In twenty ten, the first time you played the Jaguars

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Speaker 3: in the two game series. That year you entered that

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Speaker 3: the Jags in your history. They had won eight games.

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Speaker 3: That was a pretty good mark for the Texans at

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Speaker 3: that point. Yeah, still young in the franchise. Most most

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Speaker 3: You go there, it's a hard fought game. It comes

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Speaker 2: They win.

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Speaker 3: There was cheering in the press box, not by me,

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Speaker 3: not by Nick Skerfield, not by the Houston media, but

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Speaker 2: This it's supposed to happen, is not supposed to, no

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Speaker 3: So the Jaguars took a nine to eight advantage in

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Speaker 3: basically owned them. And right now, if you win on Sunday,

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Speaker 3: you will have thirty wins to just fifteen for the Jags.

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Speaker 3: You will double them up, which is far and away

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Speaker 3: the best record. It's really been weird over that span,

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Speaker 3: how lopsided this rivalry has been. And there's been some

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Speaker 3: bad years for the Texans. I mean they lost fourteen

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Speaker 3: games at thirteen, they had the Deshaun Watson here where

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Speaker 3: they lost both of them, and that was the Jaguars.

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Speaker 3: It's the best Jaguars team since probably the late nineties

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Speaker 3: when Seth Payne was there. So we're in weird territory, John,

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Speaker 3: And this is an odd, odd situation for them because

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Speaker 3: they're zero and three. They just got thumped on Monday

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Speaker 3: Night football. And as bad as the Texans feel right now,

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Speaker 3: you're probably feeling worse if you're a Jags fan because

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Speaker 3: you still don't have a win. You did that on

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Speaker 3: national TV, your loss. And on top of all that,

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Speaker 3: it was a day later, and on top of that,

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Speaker 3: they had playing problems, so they did not get out

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Speaker 3: return home to Jacksonville I think six am, John. So

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Speaker 3: this is a team that's limping in, but it's the

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Speaker 3: proverbial caged animal and you gotta look and be weary

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Speaker 3: and all that stuff. It's an odds setup this this

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Speaker 3: this week four sweet four.

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Speaker 2: Game, Johns.

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Speaker 4: And one final thing with that, they've also had some injuries.

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Speaker 4: They had some others, uh Jerry and Jones or Rookie

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Speaker 4: they're they're a banged up, caged animal, and that that

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Speaker 4: side of the Texas team hasn't played a complete game either. No,

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Speaker 4: I don't think you can be really excited about what

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Speaker 4: we just really haven't seen I don't I don't know

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Speaker 4: But what you have to do against a team like

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Speaker 2: Like sure, you you have to do. You have to

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Speaker 4: Your standard, play to your standard, and put it on

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Speaker 4: them for a full sixty minutes. And it doesn't mean

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Speaker 2: Well we're gonna coast.

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Speaker 4: No, you have to you have to play your game

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Speaker 4: at your standard against this team. And here's the other

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Speaker 4: the weird. Here's the other weird side of your stat

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Speaker 4: I thought about this too.

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Speaker 2: The Texans.

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Speaker 4: Since I've been on the sidelines twenty fourteen, we've only

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Speaker 4: won lost once in Jacksonville in twenty seventeen, and it

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Speaker 4: was an awful day.

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Speaker 2: I mean awful, awful, awful day. It's terrible. Now.

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Speaker 4: We didn't play there in nineteen because of going to London,

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Speaker 4: but we have won every other time there. Fourteen through

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Speaker 4: twenty three, we've won every other time, but we have

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Speaker 4: not We've lost the last two here in twenty twenty two,

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Speaker 4: they thumped the you know what out of us, and

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Speaker 4: the last year when they were they were seven and three,

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Speaker 4: oh man, a winner of this gets the first place.

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Speaker 4: And we played probably our worst game of the year.

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Speaker 4: They sacked CJ all day long, and the went in

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Speaker 4: the game twenty four to twenty one, and we joined

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Speaker 2: It incident to overtime.

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Speaker 4: We didn't deserve to win that game, but we've lost

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Speaker 4: the last two here against Jacksonville.

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Speaker 2: I just no matter who's on the other side.

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Speaker 4: It could be Jacksonville, it could be Bowling Green, it

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Speaker 4: eight ste oers. It doesn't matter to me. This team

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Speaker 4: has to go play at a higher standard. You mentioned

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Speaker 4: it earlier with the penalties. Sa Excus will have twenty

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Speaker 4: three penalties in two games. Sorry, it just is that

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Speaker 4: just something that cannot happen. But that's everybody that's contributing

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Speaker 4: And I'm not saying you could play penalty free. I

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Speaker 4: create penalties. But you've got to have much better play

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Speaker 4: I mean, I hate to say that, but that that's

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Speaker 4: got to be the standard in some sense. And then offensively,

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Speaker 4: we got to get it rolling again. The offensive line's

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Speaker 4: got to get rolling, so the run game get going.

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Speaker 4: The run game gets going, then the play action becomes

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Speaker 4: that much better. Play action gets that much better than

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Speaker 4: deep shots are available. That's what you gotta have against Jacksonville.

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Speaker 4: And if you get up early on them, you can't

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Speaker 4: up bang bang ten nothing, fourteen nothing. You got to

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Speaker 4: hold them down like big brother and little brother. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: you got to hold them down. How do you like

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Speaker 4: this pillow, Bobby? Do you like the pillow?

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Speaker 2: Bobby?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Take that. I mean like your little brother, Bobby.

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Speaker 4: And you gotta just I didn't have a little brother,

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Speaker 4: but that's imagine his name would have been bothered, what

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Speaker 4: I would have done to him.

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Speaker 2: You can't let him up. And so it's got to

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Speaker 4: It's got to be that you gotta start playing to

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Speaker 4: you if you walk out of there and that Jacksonville

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Speaker 4: Jaguars have more points than you, because now you're sitting

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Speaker 2: The week following, Oh.

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Speaker 3: All right, let's let's welcome in Randy Savage. Macho man, crop,

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Speaker 3: thank you. It's time for a Cream of the Crop winner,

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Speaker 3: and that's who we think will be the winner if

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Speaker 3: the Texans win. And you know what I'm gonna do.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with cornerback Derek Stingley Junior. I think

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Speaker 3: he gets one. I think he gets a pick in

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Speaker 3: this game. He's done it before before he gains Trevor

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Speaker 3: Lawrence yep, and I think it happens again this Sunday.

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Speaker 3: I like what what I what I've seen from him

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Speaker 3: how much is it Christian Kirk. Don't know, but I

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Speaker 3: am gonna go Kream of the Crop award winner.

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Speaker 2: Derek Stingley Junior. John, Who do you got good one?

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Speaker 2: Last week? I think my cream of the crop was

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Speaker 4: I feel like I should make it him, or should

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Speaker 4: make it the entire offensive line.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm gonna just move one person next to him.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna go shack Mason all right, because the level

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Speaker 4: to go up three notches at least. It's got to

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Speaker 4: it wasn't there against Minnesota.

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Speaker 2: And I think Shaq is that guy inside that's.

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Speaker 4: Gonna have to handle some of those longer, more athletic

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Speaker 4: you know, the sixty five, sixty six, two ninety type guys.

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Speaker 4: Shack's got even into those dudes and make them have

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Speaker 4: a bad day. He's really got to play at a

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Speaker 4: high level. So I'm going Shack Mason offensive line.

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Speaker 2: I like that.

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Speaker 1: I like it.

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Speaker 3: Let's get that. Le's get back on the winning track.

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Speaker 3: Let's got three and one through the first quarter ish

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Speaker 3: of the season. Can you believe that sort of four

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: All right, Well, we'll have much more of this next

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Speaker 3: week on Texans in the Lab. And we thank you

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Speaker 3: for checking us out. You John Harris, me, Drew Doerdy,

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Speaker 3: and you gentle viewer, gentle listener.

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Speaker 2: Let's go again. Well bye,