1 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 1: It is Monday, March ninth, and a high school senior 2 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: has been charged with murder after a high school prank, 3 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:18,119 Speaker 1: one in which most of us probably participated in when 4 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: we were kids. With that, welcome to this episode of 5 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:25,439 Speaker 1: Amy and TJ an awful tragedy that is Robes. Now 6 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 1: a new part of this story is really tugging at 7 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:34,559 Speaker 1: us all in our heartstrings about this. Yes, it's actually 8 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:38,599 Speaker 1: the wife of the guy who died who is pleading 9 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 1: that the teenager not be charged. Robes will get into 10 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 1: the details, but that's the line. That's the bottom line. 11 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 1: Now that's turned the story, yes, into a tragedy. But Robes, 12 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 1: what's the next thing it's become now, right, tragedy at first, 13 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 1: and now it's there's a different twist or angle to 14 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 1: this story. 15 00:00:57,240 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're like you said, it pulls on your heart 16 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:04,759 Speaker 2: streams because yes, a forty year old math teacher died 17 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 2: and his wife instead of wanting justice or revenge for 18 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:13,680 Speaker 2: the teens and we'll get into the prank that they 19 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:18,399 Speaker 2: were basically rolling their house and I say rolling, that's 20 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 2: what we call it when you throw toilet paper up 21 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 2: in the trees and just a high school prank but 22 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 2: it ended up tragically killing her husband. And she now says, 23 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 2: I don't want that teenager charge. And he has been 24 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 2: charged with vehicular homicide. And what an amazing act of 25 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 2: forgiveness and understanding that this was just an accident. 26 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:47,040 Speaker 1: This happened over the weekend, folks. This is down in Gainesville, Georgia. 27 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: It's about an hour northeast of Atlanta. To give you 28 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 1: some perspective there. But it was a junior senior prank 29 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 1: and these kids were out, five of them in two 30 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 1: separate cars. And yes, they threw toilet paper at the 31 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 1: house of their teacher. So what happened after that? As 32 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 1: they tossed the toilet paper, the kids were hopping back 33 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:12,800 Speaker 1: in their cars to take off. The teacher comes outside 34 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:16,399 Speaker 1: and as the cars are taking off, the teacher, according 35 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 1: to police, Robes didn't step into a car and the 36 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:22,959 Speaker 1: car didn't swerve. They say, actually that was slick pavement. 37 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 1: He accidentally slipped and fell into the street where the 38 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:34,239 Speaker 1: car was going hit him. He dies at the hospital, 39 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 1: but Robes there on the scene. Even you imagine the 40 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 1: horror of these kids. They got out and tried to 41 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 1: help them. 42 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, so look, and I just put myself in these kids' places, 43 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 2: because I'll admit I did this with my friends multiple times, 44 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:53,359 Speaker 2: a fun prank. It wasn't even mean spirited. I look 45 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 2: at it now and maybe it seems like it, but 46 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 2: it's just something that kids do and. 47 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 3: Just a playful kind of hahaha. He was a beloved 48 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 3: math teacher. 49 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 2: His wife is also a math teacher at the same 50 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:06,679 Speaker 2: high school, so they were just having fun. 51 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:09,919 Speaker 3: But to think that it just so many things had 52 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:11,239 Speaker 3: to go wrong for this to happen. 53 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:12,799 Speaker 2: But then know that the kids got out of the 54 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 2: car immediately and tried to help their math teacher. 55 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 3: Unfortunately he didn't survive. 56 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 1: It did not keep authorities from charging Jaden Ryan Wallace, 57 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 1: eighteen years old. He is charged with first degree vehicular homicide, 58 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 1: reckless driving, criminal trespassing, and littering. They have not ruled 59 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 1: out the authorities have not possibly charging some of the 60 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 1: other kids that he was with. Again, it was five 61 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: kids in total, but he was driving the car in particular. Now, 62 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 1: the other part of this story to add robes is 63 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: that they say the teacher. When I first read the story, 64 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 1: I thought he came out he was upset with the kids. No, 65 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 1: that's not it. This was an annual tradition, planned prank. 66 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 1: He came out robes to be a part of it 67 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 1: and almost kind of bust them playfully. He wasn't. He 68 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: didn't run out there to get on to the kids. 69 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 1: He ran out there because he knew the kids, He 70 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 1: loved the kids, and he knew this was coming. 71 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, like this is It's almost like they were rolling 72 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 2: the house of the teacher they loved, like as a joke, 73 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 2: as a Hey, we're seniors, let's have some fun, let's 74 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 2: roll their house. And yeah, to think he was coming 75 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 2: out it was eleven thirty at night. It's just it's 76 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:31,279 Speaker 2: so horrific to think about what comes next. Because you 77 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:34,279 Speaker 2: pull up this picture. This teacher, Jason Hughes is his name, 78 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:38,039 Speaker 2: forty years old, taught math and online you see the 79 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 2: pictures of him and his wife and their two young sons, 80 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 2: and they're just this beautiful family. They had moved to 81 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:46,840 Speaker 2: Gainesville from Winnett County, which is just a little bit 82 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 2: further south here there in Georgia, where I went to 83 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:51,479 Speaker 2: high school. Actually, so look, it's funny because I don't 84 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 2: know if this happens in other parts of the country 85 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 2: as much, but I grew up in Gwenette County and 86 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 2: that's we went rolling on Friday nights and just yeah, 87 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 2: you do you do it to people you hated, you 88 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 2: do it to people that you actually liked and were 89 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:05,279 Speaker 2: having fun with. And that seems like that was exactly 90 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 2: what was happening on Friday night. 91 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 1: There have been robes and we've seen incidents over the 92 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 1: years and even more recent with kids being injured and 93 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 1: even killed because they do pranks with the They run 94 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: up to the door and they bang on the door, 95 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 1: then they run away. Yeah, we've seen that some. There 96 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 1: are times and there are incidents where there are misunderstandings 97 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 1: and mishaps, if you will, where someone thinks their home 98 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 1: is being attacked or there's an intruder and it's just 99 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: a prank. That's one thing. This was not that at all. 100 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 1: Robes were actually talking about a slip. This is the 101 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 1: worst type of why you end up asking if you're religious, like, 102 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 1: what sense and meaning of life can you make of this? 103 00:05:57,000 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 1: It was an accident. Now it's up to legally rose 104 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:03,599 Speaker 1: before we even saw and we're gonna read here in 105 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:06,839 Speaker 1: a moment the statement from the widow now of the 106 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 1: teacher that was killed, but rose. Before we even saw 107 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 1: her statement, we were both saying to each other, man, 108 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:14,039 Speaker 1: do they have to charge this kid? Yeah? 109 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 2: And I because it just obviously he is going to 110 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 2: live with this and suffer because of this for the 111 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 2: rest of his life, no question. And I was actually looking. 112 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 2: I don't even know that he's out of jail yet. 113 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 2: Did you see that he was, because it said as 114 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 2: of Sunday evening he was still in police custody. 115 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 3: So this is a kid. This happened Friday night. 116 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 2: To think he's just sitting in that jail cell and 117 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 2: has been at least through the weekend, being charged at 118 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 2: eighteen years old with homicide. 119 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 1: All the chargers away. You don't drop every charge right now. 120 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 1: And he's still messed up for life. 121 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 3: Hell be in his own prison. 122 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 1: There's that punishment that he is getting. Romes. We do 123 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 1: have to hold people responsible for accident. I am not 124 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 1: trying to look into the legal back and forth, but 125 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 1: just accidents happen. Yes, if they had chosen not to 126 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:02,479 Speaker 1: do this, yes, that teacher would still be alive. Yes, 127 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:06,159 Speaker 1: I don't know what the prosecutor has to weigh. And 128 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 1: if you don't have a victim or victims family beaten 129 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 1: down your door saying hey, we want justice. I don't know, Robes, 130 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 1: this is an impossible one. But if you're struggling to 131 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:20,559 Speaker 1: figure it out and trying to understand and what should 132 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 1: be done, who should we listen to? Robes? We should 133 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: listen to the widow maybe of this teacher. Stay here, folks, 134 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 1: she has released two statements that will break your heart. 135 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 1: Stay here. 136 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 2: Welcome back, everyone to this episode of Amy and TJ, 137 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 2: where we are talking about a playful high school prank 138 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 2: that turned deadly. Unfortunately, forty year old Jason Hughes, a 139 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 2: beloved math teacher in Hall County, Georgia. This is in Gainesville, Georgia, 140 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 2: was coming out. 141 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 3: Of his house. 142 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 2: It was a playful prank where he was going to 143 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 2: confront these students who had tepeed. 144 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 3: Rolled his house with toilet paper. 145 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 2: It was an annual prank and he was coming out 146 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 2: and by all accounts, as he was coming out of 147 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 2: the roadway and the teens were taken off in their vehicle, 148 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 2: he slipped on slippery pavement, fell in front of the 149 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 2: vehicle as it was coming over. He was accidentally run over. 150 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 2: The kids stopped and unfortunately mister Hughes died at the 151 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 2: hospital later of his injuries. And now we're talking about 152 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 2: the eighteen year old who was at the driver's seat, 153 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 2: in the driver's seat of that vehicle. He has now 154 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 2: been charged with vehicul or homicide with a many, many, 155 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 2: many other charges. And the wife, who was also a 156 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 2: math teacher at this same high school, Laura Hughes as 157 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 2: her name, has put out a couple of statements, and 158 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 2: you mentioned before the break heartbreaking. 159 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 1: And she and two separate ones. She was she alluded 160 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 1: to in one of them also keeping the kids in 161 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 1: your thoughts and prayers, and then another one she was 162 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 1: more direct in what she was requesting, but the first 163 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 1: one part of it says, quote, our family wants to 164 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 1: thank the Hall County community for the outpouring of prayers 165 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 1: and support and the respect for our privacy as we 166 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 1: grieve the loss of Jason. We ask that you continue 167 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 1: to pray for our family and also for the students 168 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 1: involved in the accident, along with their families. Please join 169 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 1: us in extending grace and mercy to them as Christ 170 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 1: has done for us. Lord Wow jesusly wow Woes. That 171 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:43,319 Speaker 1: is now again, rhobes. We've seen incident. Different type of crimes, 172 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 1: if you will, in which we're amazed when the victim's 173 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 1: family is able to extend grace. This is a different one, sure, 174 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:57,079 Speaker 1: because this isn't like they were targeting him or wanted 175 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 1: to do him harm. It's a different type of thing. 176 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 1: But still to see at a woman who lost her 177 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:05,680 Speaker 1: husband twenty four forty eight hours ago is able to 178 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 1: put that together extend grace and mercy to them as well. 179 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:12,439 Speaker 1: I want to meet this lady. 180 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 3: I do too. 181 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 2: And look, we were looking up this family and the 182 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 2: beautiful family photo they have. But it was it was 183 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:24,679 Speaker 2: something that Jason himself put out about moving to Gainesville 184 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 2: to teach at North Hall High School. 185 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 3: It's you can just get. 186 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 2: A sense of who this family is and who Jason was. 187 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 2: Just to read his own words talking about teaching in 188 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 2: Gwenatt for ten years moving to Gainesville, Georgia. I like 189 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 2: how he put this to teach and serve at North 190 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 2: Hall High School. That says a lot. He said he 191 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 2: was going to Gainesville to teach and serve, and he 192 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 2: said I have the distinct honor of teaching alongside my 193 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:52,680 Speaker 2: wife Laura. In fact, we even teach the same math 194 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 2: subject's exclamation point. He said, along with our two boys, 195 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:58,719 Speaker 2: Luke and Owen, we are excited to be a part 196 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 2: of this community and eager to to. 197 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 3: See God move here. 198 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 2: Faith was such a huge part of their family, and 199 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 2: you can see that playing out. It's one thing to 200 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 2: say that you're a Christian, it's one thing to say 201 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 2: you have faith in God. 202 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 3: But wow, she is proving it by her words. 203 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 1: She's doing this in practice. Again, folks, you would have 204 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 1: to assume that night the whole family was at home 205 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:24,559 Speaker 1: and asleep, and they have two young kids who she 206 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 1: is now that is her number one priority in everything, 207 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 1: and so to see this and this is the other 208 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:35,079 Speaker 1: part she put out again from Laura Hughes, the widow 209 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 1: of the teacher killed, saying, this is a terrible tragedy 210 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 1: and our family is determined to prevent a separate tragedy 211 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 1: from occurring, ruining the lives of these students. This would 212 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 1: be counter to Jason's lifelong dedication of investing in the 213 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:54,200 Speaker 1: lives of these children. She's asking that they not face 214 00:11:54,440 --> 00:12:00,200 Speaker 1: charges a separate tragedy from occurring. Wow, I have to 215 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 1: listen to her. I don't know what the law says. 216 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:06,319 Speaker 1: I don't know what the law says about prosecutors having 217 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 1: to listen to her, but we hear all the time 218 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 1: about prosecutors taken into consideration with the wishes of a family. 219 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 1: How could you ignore this one. 220 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 2: We've talked about it, and it just seems like that 221 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 2: would be the right thing to do. It is under 222 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 2: the discretion of the prosecutor. But the whole county Sheriff's 223 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 2: office has said that the four other students are being 224 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 2: charged with criminal trespass and littering. Now, obviously that's nothing 225 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 2: compared to the vehicular homicide reckless driving charges that Jaden 226 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 2: Wallace is face. 227 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 1: They're getting charge of littering. Somebody's dead and we had time. 228 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:42,320 Speaker 1: But I know, I guess they're just doing they want 229 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 1: to hold somebody responsible for something because there's a death. 230 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:47,679 Speaker 1: It seems like you can't just all walk away from 231 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:52,680 Speaker 1: this and nobody held responsible. I don't know, baby, babe, 232 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:54,320 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know what to do with 233 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 1: this one. But to her point, Laura Hughes, I would 234 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 1: listen to her a separate tragedy. This was an accident. 235 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 1: It was horrible. I don't know what to do with 236 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 1: this kid. What's punishment for this kid? I don't know. 237 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 2: I was I agree that, look, what he is going 238 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 2: to have to live with is going to be punishment. 239 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 3: I hate to use the word enough, but I do 240 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 3: believe that a plenty. Yes, I do believe that. And 241 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:17,680 Speaker 3: I was just imagining. 242 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:20,079 Speaker 2: Look, we're recording this, and this is the first day 243 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 2: back at school on Monday, at North Hall High School. 244 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:25,680 Speaker 2: I cannot even imagine what it is like to be 245 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 2: at that high school today. This was a beloved math teacher. 246 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 2: Obviously his wife Laura, who was the other math teacher 247 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 2: I'm sure is not at school today. But my goodness, 248 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 2: it's just a It's an unspeakable tragedy. I wonder how 249 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 2: much this will change just the idea of pranks and 250 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 2: having fun because you see it. Maybe in the intention 251 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 2: behind it was fun and silly, but to see something 252 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 2: like this happening, I don't know if you could ever 253 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 2: predict this or prevent this. 254 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 3: I mean, is there a lesson here? I don't know. 255 00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 1: I don't The lesson, babe, is that sometimes crap has 256 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:02,959 Speaker 1: happens and there's no explanation for it. You're supposed to 257 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:05,200 Speaker 1: tell kids all over the country, Hey, don't ever pull 258 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 1: pranks again, don't ever go out late again. No, you 259 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 1: tell them the best you can to be careful, to 260 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 1: be kind, do the best you can roads and this 261 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 1: stuff still happens. And that's hard and that's heavy. But 262 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 1: I don't know how to tell this kid to do 263 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 1: something different, Like you shouldn't have been out close to midnight. Okay, 264 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 1: we could do that. He wasn't out drinking. Yeah, I mean, 265 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 1: I don't know, es, I don't know, so if I 266 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 1: hadn't said that enough. But we want to pass this 267 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 1: one along to you all. This is a part of 268 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 1: a conversation and robes, this is a part of This 269 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 1: is not just a story. This is about human nature. 270 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 1: And this is about human being humanity, excuse me, and 271 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 1: grace and forgiveness and love. And Laura Hughes is teaching 272 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 1: us a lot at a time that she ain't got 273 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 1: time to be teaching us anything. She's got other things 274 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 1: on her mind. But man, she just gave us a lot. 275 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 3: It's beautiful. It's easy. It's easy to be kind. 276 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 2: It's easy to be to give grace to folks when 277 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 2: things are going your way and things are great and beautiful. 278 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 2: This is when it's hard when you're angry, when you're upset, 279 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 2: when you're devastated, and to see Laura Hughes be able 280 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 2: to make that statement that she's made it is. 281 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 3: Uh yeah wow. I have learned so much from her today. 282 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 2: It's a reminder for us all to be kind and 283 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 2: to recognize that forgiveness is probably the biggest gift, the 284 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 2: best gift you could give anyone. So with that, everyone, 285 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 2: thank you so much for listening to us. I'm Ami 286 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 2: Roboch alongside TJ. 287 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 3: Holmes. We'll talk to you soon.