1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the Herd podcast. Be sure to 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports Radio in 3 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: noon to three Eastern nine am to noon Pacific. Find 4 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:12,120 Speaker 1: your local station for The Herd at Fox Sports Radio 5 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 1: dot com, or stream us live every day on the 6 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:19,280 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. Thanks 7 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 1: for listening to the Herd podcast. Here we go our 8 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: number two on a Friday, Blazing five. He's got its 9 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 1: own contrail right now. It is red hot four and one, 10 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 1: four and one, four and one. I have been banned 11 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 1: in Las Vegas. They won't let me off the plane. 12 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 1: I'm so hot. Welcome in. It's Halloween. Jamack going as 13 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:50,839 Speaker 1: Austin Rivers Reeves Austin Reeves. 14 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 2: I mean he's only carrying the Lakers right now without 15 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 2: Luca Lebron. 16 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 1: You know, Jmack a little j much with the gun show. 17 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 1: But whatever you know talking about I haven't worked out 18 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:05,039 Speaker 1: all weeks. Come one. Sorry, that's a lie. Five, that's 19 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: a long Listen. Last week I did something I never 20 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:12,039 Speaker 1: do with my picks. I said I'm taking all favorites. 21 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: I don't like favorites. This week, once again, I'm doing 22 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 1: something you shouldn't do taking road favorites. They tell you 23 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:23,399 Speaker 1: don't do that. I don't love the numbers. I like 24 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 1: the numbers more this week than last week. I just 25 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:28,759 Speaker 1: end up doing well last week. So the last couple 26 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 1: of weeks, it's a lot of favorites. But it's been working. 27 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:37,039 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it again, and here we go. Let's 28 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: blaze it up, fire it up. It's Collins blazon. Fuck 29 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 1: forty nine ers at Giants. I like the Niners minus 30 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 1: two and a half at the Giants without scataboy. Listen 31 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 1: the Giants. They're not playing clean football and the Niners 32 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:55,559 Speaker 1: have the number two passing offense and the Giants pass 33 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 1: defense stinks. The Niners are two and zero after a loss, 34 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: and I like taking well coached teams after they play poorly. 35 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: The Niners last week not buttoned up. They're in a 36 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:12,080 Speaker 1: bad move. No molak neighbors, no camskataboo. For the five 37 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:14,920 Speaker 1: losses by the Giants this year, defense isn't very good. 38 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 1: Have been by twelve plus points. Too many penalties, they 39 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:20,799 Speaker 1: give up big plays and I think mac Jones can 40 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:23,959 Speaker 1: burn you. I like the Niners to win and cover 41 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:29,119 Speaker 1: the spread. Twenty eight to twenty three Bears and Thingals. 42 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 1: I think it's a good matchup for Chicago. I'll take 43 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 1: the road favorite minus two and a half. Since Week four, well, 44 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 1: the Bears are four and one of the Bengals were 45 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: one and five, so there's that Bears didn't get turnover 46 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 1: advantages last week, but they generally do, and their offense 47 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 1: does lead the NFL in big plays. And the Bengals 48 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:51,640 Speaker 1: defense this year is awful. Their last and everything but 49 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 1: third down defense and they're next to last with that. 50 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 1: They're one and five without Burrow, they don't run the 51 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 1: ball particularly well, and Joe Flacco banged up. The Bears 52 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:04,399 Speaker 1: are not a great team, but they can be very 53 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 1: good when they get a good matchup like the Dallas 54 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 1: defense or the Bengals defense. I think Chicago wins and 55 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:17,079 Speaker 1: covers the spread. Final score thirty three to twenty seven. 56 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:22,239 Speaker 1: She said Bills. I like the over fifty two and 57 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 1: a half points. The over. Weather's going to be fine. 58 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 1: Third ranked offensive line Buffalo and the fourth ranked offensive 59 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: line Kansas City, so both quarterbacks will have time to 60 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 1: throw five straight games for Kansas City scoring twenty eight 61 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: or more, and their receiving tight end Cores is stacked 62 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 1: number one total offense in the last month, the Bills 63 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 1: averaging six yards a play, second best in the NFL. 64 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 1: Josh Allen when he plays the Chiefs, he'll run it 65 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 1: a bit more. But if you look at the games 66 00:03:55,280 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 1: between Mahomes and Josh Allen, the defenses struggle to make stops. 67 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 1: I think it's a classic Buffalo Kansas City matchup. I 68 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 1: think Kansas City's gonna win. Take the over fifty two 69 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 1: and a half points Seahawks at Commanders. I'm gonna take 70 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 1: the Commanders plus three and a half at home. Listen 71 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 1: Jaden Daniels hamstring and Laramie Tunzel hamstring both could return 72 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 1: second best red zone offense in the NFL, only behind 73 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:30,280 Speaker 1: the Eagles. So if they can move the ball, they 74 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:33,919 Speaker 1: can get touchdowns. They also run the ball effectively, and 75 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:37,160 Speaker 1: I like that. The Seahawks are getting sloppy and a 76 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 1: bit reckless for me. I love Sam Darnold, but he's 77 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:44,280 Speaker 1: gotten back to some bad habits right now. The Seahawks 78 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:48,039 Speaker 1: offense in the last couple of games is sputtering. No 79 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 1: Kevin o'conddle in the building. Commanders win it. Take the points. 80 00:04:53,240 --> 00:05:00,839 Speaker 1: I like Washington twenty eight to twenty seven. Cowboys Cardinal Cowboys. 81 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take Dallas minus two and a half. They're 82 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:07,239 Speaker 1: just a very good home team, one of five teams 83 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:11,159 Speaker 1: that hasn't lost at home, number one scoring offense in 84 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 1: the league, and at home. Strangely, they don't give the 85 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 1: ball away, only one giveaway in Dallas all year. I 86 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:21,039 Speaker 1: just like what they do at home. Dak having a 87 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:24,040 Speaker 1: really good season. Protections better than I thought. So is 88 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 1: the run game the Cardinals. That defense is banged up 89 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 1: and getting worse. Allowed twenty seven plus points in back 90 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 1: to back games. Again, this is really I'm taking Dak 91 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 1: at home over a better team. Who knows who's quarterbacking 92 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:44,359 Speaker 1: for Arizona, but I think they're regressing. Dallas still believes 93 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 1: in that building they can make the playoffs and maybe 94 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 1: they can swallow the points. Dallas wins and covers twenty 95 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: eight to twenty four. So again I'm taking favorites. I'm 96 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:58,600 Speaker 1: not prone to do that. Plus the over on the 97 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 1: Bills and achieves. With that, we bring in Eric Mangini 98 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 1: Jets Brown. So here's the word. Chris Greer has been 99 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:15,840 Speaker 1: let go in Miami as the GM they're going to 100 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 1: keep Mike McDaniel. I believe interim coaches get you in 101 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 1: trouble because they come in, they win a couple of games, 102 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:25,600 Speaker 1: the fan base in the media want the interim coach, 103 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 1: and that's not the best cancel. I would keep the 104 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 1: coach to the end. I'm going to throw something at 105 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 1: you and I want your reaction of the Okay, the 106 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 1: franchise has to move off to them. In my opinion, 107 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 1: I mean, it's a cold weather conference. I mean it's 108 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 1: all the good teams have cold weather. He can't do it. 109 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 1: So college football has changed. They have free agency. The 110 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 1: college coaches now with the Nile and the Portal, they're 111 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 1: like NFL coaches. They have to pay players to have 112 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 1: negotiate salaries. They have free agency. I would call Lane 113 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 1: Kiffen and I would say, Lane, you've seen of these 114 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 1: eight quarterbacks that everybody likes. You recruited him, You've coached 115 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:07,279 Speaker 1: against him, You've watched tape against him. You had Jackson Dart. 116 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 1: You know the conference. Is it crazy to say the 117 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 1: coach selects the GM and that Lane may be a 118 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 1: great fit here. 119 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think Lane could could definitely be 120 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 3: a really good fit in the NFL. 121 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 4: I don't know if that's what he wants to do. 122 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 3: So it was it was he and Sarkisian right at 123 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 3: the Raiders as co offensive coordinators at one point, and 124 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 3: I could see both of those guys moving back into 125 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 3: the NFL. And and look, it's he's He's had so 126 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 3: much success in college football and he's really good at that, 127 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 3: and I think it'd be good in pro football as well. 128 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 3: It just depends on whether he wants to make that transition. 129 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 3: But I would imagine, considering his lineage and his experienced 130 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 3: the NFL, at some point he's going to want to 131 00:07:57,840 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 3: get back into the league. 132 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: So you know, when you look at the Bills and 133 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 1: the Chiefs, I said earlier, generally December and January football, 134 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 1: you know this, Brady and Belichick super Bowls, with the 135 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 1: exception of the Rams game, they're all one possession games, 136 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: win lose. They're all one possession. The difference between Mahomes 137 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 1: and Allen is Andy Reid, outside of maybe Bill Walsh, 138 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 1: is the best offensive coach ever, and he wins those 139 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 1: little situational moments. I think McDermott's a very good coach. 140 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 1: I think Andy's a legend. To me, the difference is 141 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 1: they both went to small markets, they didn't win a 142 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 1: lot in college. They're both insanely talented. Both franchises won 143 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:37,199 Speaker 1: playoff games before they got there. They were well run. 144 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 1: To me, the difference is Andy Reid. It's not Mahomes 145 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 1: and Allen. It's kind of Andy Reid and these big spots. 146 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 1: Your thoughts on that. 147 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, the coaching situation that Patrick went into was about 148 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 3: as good as you could possibly get because he not 149 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 3: only had Andy Reid, but he had Spagnolo on the 150 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 3: other side. And I know it wasn't great early there defensively, 151 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 3: but that stability from a coaching perspective is has. 152 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 4: Been really good. 153 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 3: I do think though, there is an element of who 154 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 3: is better in the bigger moments and for years you 155 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 3: had Brady and Manning and how many Super Bowls would 156 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 3: Peyton have won if Tom Brady hadn't been around, and 157 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 3: it wasn't You know, there was an element of coaching 158 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 3: there as well, and I believe that, especially really early 159 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:27,839 Speaker 3: in Tom's career. But there is also an element of 160 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:31,680 Speaker 3: Peyton was around when the greatest player of all time 161 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 3: was around, and now Patrick Mahomes is arguably the next 162 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 3: the heir to that throne, and unfortunately for Josh Allen, 163 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 3: he's around when the greatest player potentially of all time 164 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 3: is around. 165 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 1: So we've had a lot of discussions on Caleb Williams, 166 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 1: and I said, listen, here's the things. 167 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:50,679 Speaker 4: I like. 168 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 1: He's coachable because I watch him on the first drive 169 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 1: as execution's excellent. He's not ridget or stubborn. He'll take 170 00:09:56,800 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 1: the coaching. Secondly, he has developed a nice relationship with 171 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 1: Roma Dunze. You can feel it. They trust each other. 172 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 1: Third is he's got an arm, he's got the tools. 173 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 1: I do think operationally it's not good enough and I 174 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 1: don't know if he's ever going to be sixty eight 175 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:19,439 Speaker 1: percent completion? Guy? Where are you now? I like I 176 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 1: think they're a team that's good, not great. So I 177 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 1: like their matchup. I think when they face the Dallas 178 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 1: defense of the Bengals defense, they're more comfortable. I don't 179 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 1: think they're a good enough offense to face a lot 180 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:33,319 Speaker 1: of discomfort. They can handle, you know, a little less 181 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:35,839 Speaker 1: of a pass rush. Where are you on Caleb Ben 182 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 1: Johnson and the Bears right now? 183 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 5: Yeah? 184 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 3: I'm a lot like you Colin as I see the 185 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 3: good things that Caleb does week in and week out, 186 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:48,319 Speaker 3: and then you get frustrated with the inconsistency of playing 187 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 3: and you want to see more development as a as 188 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 3: a quarterback, as a leader, as someone who can who 189 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 3: can run the offense effectively without without getting the you know, 190 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:01,319 Speaker 3: the penalties that just just kill you. And it's interesting 191 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 3: last year when they were right before the Washington game, 192 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 3: or leading up to the Washington game, they were four 193 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 3: and two, and then they had that terrible, terrible loss, 194 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 3: and Kaylib had three games in a row where he's 195 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 3: below eighty and a quarterback rating. Here we are a 196 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 3: year later, they have the terrible loss of the Ravens, 197 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 3: and he's in a three game stretch of below eighty 198 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 3: quarterback rating. A year he moved with a totally different 199 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 3: head coach, a different team, different situation. 200 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 1: So you're. 201 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 3: I'm disappointed that that that's where we are a year later, 202 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 3: and I'd like to see the jump happen. 203 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 4: Quicker. 204 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 3: I do think we have to go through this entire season, 205 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:44,559 Speaker 3: and I'm optimistic that he's going to get significantly better 206 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:47,319 Speaker 3: by the end of the season and take some jumps here. 207 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 3: Maybe over the next four weeks and then the four 208 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 3: weeks following. 209 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 1: So I said there, it's not today. J Brown's a 210 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:58,679 Speaker 1: bad guy. But if you look at the Eagles, their 211 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 1: most famous play is to Tush. It's ugly, it's an artistic, 212 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 1: it's a collective. And then he's standing over on the 213 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 1: sideline like, they're not built. They're not built around AJ Brown. Now, 214 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 1: most teams aren't built. I mean the Bengals are built 215 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 1: largely on Burrow and Jamar Chase. But I think AJ 216 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 1: Brown is a good guy. I think it's a weird fit. 217 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:22,680 Speaker 1: Were you ever in a locker room, it could be 218 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 1: the Patriots, the Jets of the Browns where you loved 219 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 1: a player, but he wasn't necessarily a fit or great 220 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 1: for the room. And I mean Dez Bryant when he 221 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 1: was in Dallas, like Dak was better not having the 222 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 1: kind of babysit a superstar receiver. What do you do 223 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 1: with your Philly last week? No, AJ Brown's the best 224 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 1: of their offense has looked like since in. 225 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 3: A year, Yeah, looks. It's a really tough situation with 226 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 3: AJ Brown. He's a great player, but there's a reason 227 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 3: that Tennessee moved on from him and we see great 228 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 3: receivers all the time where they get traded, and with AJ, 229 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:01,680 Speaker 3: he wasn't happy they won the Super Bowl. He was 230 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 3: reading the book during the playoffs last year. Now he started, 231 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 3: you know, expressing his dissatisfaction publicly much earlier this year. 232 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 3: And Bill Parcells used to say that sometimes, you know, 233 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 3: guys are a little bit like a bucket with a 234 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 3: hole in it. No matter how much water you put 235 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:21,199 Speaker 3: in it, it's always going to be empty. And as 236 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 3: much as you try to fix a relationship and as 237 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 3: much as you try to make things right, it just 238 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:30,319 Speaker 3: doesn't matter how much you pour into it. You can't 239 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 3: fill it up and you can't make them happy. So 240 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 3: what ends up happening typically in situations like this is 241 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 3: the Eagles get to the point where they move on 242 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 3: from AJ Brown, and then AJ goes somewhere and maybe 243 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:45,960 Speaker 3: has one or two years there, maybe maybe as a 244 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 3: different perspective on things and lasts longer. But it just 245 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:52,199 Speaker 3: seems like this is this is one of those situations 246 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 3: where the bucket as a whole. 247 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 1: Okay, you're going to show some video here. I said this. 248 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 1: Sometimes I trust my eyes when you watch Drake May, 249 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 1: he's got to learn to slide. He's not good at that. 250 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 1: But when the ball comes out, it's got it's got 251 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 1: a little heat on it, it comes out tight. I 252 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 1: think he throws a very nice deep ball. Some of 253 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 1: it is my eyes don't lie. He just looks the 254 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:17,719 Speaker 1: part telling your thoughts on Drake May. 255 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know I I looked at him very similar 256 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 3: to Sam Darnold coming out of college because the amount 257 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 3: of touchdowns and interceptions and him getting together with Josh McDaniels. 258 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 3: I think couldn't have been a better situation. And we 259 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 3: see now how Sam Donald's progressed. This is years down 260 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 3: the line, but we're seeing all the potential that he 261 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 3: had and with Drake May, this has happened a lot, 262 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 3: a lot quicker. And I'm gonna show you the tape 263 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 3: Colin that you're gonna love. It's and if you're a 264 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 3: New England Patriots fan, you're gonna love this this tape 265 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 3: as well because it shows his development from a quarterback perspective, 266 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 3: and it shows his potential physically. So in this situation, 267 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:00,200 Speaker 3: it's early in the game, they're sending Hunter Henry and 268 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 3: in motion to give. 269 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 4: Him a man's zone answer. What is it? 270 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 1: Man? 271 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 3: Or zone, and then they're gonna throw or they're gonna 272 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 3: fake that. They're throwing a wide receiver screen to Stefan Diggs, 273 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 3: obviously their biggest target, and then Henry and Mac Collins 274 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 3: they're gonna go up and they're going to try to 275 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 3: bluff the defenders. Get those defenders to bite on the 276 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 3: wide receiver screen to Stefan Diggs, and then ideally Hanter 277 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 3: Henry now is going to run a middle read. Mac 278 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 3: Collins is going to go ahead and he's going to 279 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 3: run a fade route and they get two on one 280 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 3: on the safety. So it's a little bit of a 281 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 3: gadget play that's on the front side. 282 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 4: Of this route. 283 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 3: And then on the back side of the route with 284 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 3: Tayshaun Booty, he's going. 285 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 4: To run a slam go. He's the isolation route. 286 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 3: He's the second option on this, but they want to 287 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 3: hit the home run with the gadget. 288 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 4: Play on the front side. 289 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 3: What New Orleans is doing is they're in straight man 290 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 3: and man coverage across the board, which means they got 291 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 3: they have one player deep that's. 292 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 4: Going to be the safety. 293 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 3: Usually he's in a post safety column, but they're going 294 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 3: to slide him over to the three receiver side where 295 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 3: Diggs and Henry are, and they're bringing a fifth guy 296 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 3: off the edge because they want to set. 297 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 4: The edge on Drake May. 298 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 3: They want to make sure that he doesn't have a 299 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 3: scramble lane because he's hurt so many people with that. 300 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 3: So as he comes back, he's going to sell the 301 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 3: wide receiver stream to Diggs, and he does a good 302 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 3: job of it. But what he's really doing is he's 303 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 3: looking downfield to see whether he's got what he's wants 304 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 3: from the coverage. Had the defensive back spit up, has 305 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 3: the safety bit up, and he doesn't have that. So 306 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 3: now he's got to look backside the booty and you 307 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 3: can see at this point booty is far from open. 308 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 3: He's locked down in man coverage. New Orleans has a 309 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 3: good rush. This is what I really like about Drake May. 310 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 3: So it's not there. He doesn't panic, he keeps his 311 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 3: eyes downfield. Look at how he finds the opening over 312 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 3: here to ha left the scene again, there's no panic, 313 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 3: eyes or downfield. He moves into that little crease and 314 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 3: then take a look at this. 315 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 4: This is very Josh Allenesk. He's almost it's. 316 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 3: Almost like a jump pass. He's on one foot, but 317 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 3: you're gonna see he comes actually off the ground and 318 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:01,479 Speaker 3: it's effortless. 319 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 4: Boot is nowhere near wide open. 320 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 3: He's this is tighten man and man coverage, and you're 321 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:09,440 Speaker 3: gonna see from this other angle how well this ball 322 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 3: is thrown. So there he looks slides into the crease, 323 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 3: and look how he drops this into the pocket off 324 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:19,359 Speaker 3: of his back foot. So it's if you need a 325 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 3: reason to be excited, it's that he took a look 326 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 3: at at what the coverage was. The coverage wasn't there. 327 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 3: He's got patience, he's got poise, and then he effortlessly 328 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 3: throws the ball twenty five yards down the field and 329 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 3: in the bucket. 330 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 4: It's a lot to be happy about. 331 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, No, it just some stuff just looks right. Very early, 332 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 1: I said this when Justin Herbert was a rookie with 333 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:42,119 Speaker 1: Shane Stike in the coordinator. I'm like, I don't know 334 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 1: if he wins playoff games. That's what a franchise quarterback 335 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 1: looks like. Drake May to me is the East Coast 336 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:51,439 Speaker 1: Justin Herbert, I don't know what he does in January 337 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 1: that wins ten plus games a year. If he's standing 338 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 1: up right, he's too good. Not too. 339 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's it's so good to see the development too. 340 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 3: That's what I was most worried about, is we're we 341 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 3: going to get to the same situation where we've got 342 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:10,199 Speaker 3: fifteen touchsounds and eleven picks and he's making poor decisions. 343 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:15,360 Speaker 3: But in that situation, good processing, good field in the pocket, 344 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:16,679 Speaker 3: good looking down the field. 345 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 4: A lot to be happy about. 346 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 1: Eric Manjini on a Friday, Great senior. 347 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 3: Coach, great senior And congratulations on all those honors, Colin, 348 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 3: so well deserved. 349 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 1: Thank you, that's very kind of you to say. I 350 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 1: certainly appreciate that. It was. We got to bed a 351 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:33,680 Speaker 1: little late last night. It was a neat night being 352 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 1: inducted into the Radio Hall of Fame. And thank you 353 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 1: to all the well wishers and the people that have 354 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:40,160 Speaker 1: supported me through the years. Iheartradios, obviously from me, Radio 355 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 1: networks have been unbelievable. And we're again last night, so 356 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 1: Urban Meyer stopping by next hour, folks. The Lane Kiffin 357 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 1: stuff to me is, whether you like him or not, 358 00:18:55,800 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 1: Lane's got a presence. Lane's got a Samalpha. That's what 359 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:03,199 Speaker 1: Miami's missing. I mean, they got to get the on 360 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:05,440 Speaker 1: line right. They got to get the GM right more 361 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 1: than anything in the AFC, New England, Baltimore. Look at 362 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:12,879 Speaker 1: all these teams that are good to THEFC. You gotta 363 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 1: get a big guy who can sling it in cruddy weather. 364 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:20,159 Speaker 1: I know you plan the sun. Nothing is decided in 365 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:25,119 Speaker 1: the September. In the NFL, nothing is decided. Everything is 366 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 1: decided after Thanksgiving. 367 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 6: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 368 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 6: in neon eastern nine am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio 369 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:36,119 Speaker 6: FS one and the iHeartRadio app. 370 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 1: Hey is Covino and Rich from Fox Sports Radio Now. 371 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:41,919 Speaker 7: In addition to hearing us live weekdays from five to 372 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 7: seven pm Eastern two to four Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, 373 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 7: We're excited to announce a brand new YouTube channel for 374 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:49,120 Speaker 7: the show. 375 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 1: Yep, that's right. 376 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 7: You can now watch Covino and Rich live on YouTube 377 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 7: every day. All you gotta do search Covino and Rich 378 00:19:55,880 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 7: FSR on YouTube again, go to YouTube search Covino and FSR. 379 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:04,879 Speaker 7: Check us out on YouTube, subscribe, hit that thumbs up 380 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 7: icon and come in away. 381 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 1: The worst part about the Ravens dominating win last night 382 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 1: is I wish when you put those Thursday night games 383 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:16,880 Speaker 1: on and they're probably the best bet of the weekend. 384 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 1: I can't put it in Blazing five. So Baltimore felt 385 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 1: like a I mean, just you can just watch what's 386 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 1: happening with Miami. I'll say it again, Lane Kiffin's the 387 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:27,920 Speaker 1: choice I think for Miami. I've talked to now two 388 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 1: general managers about it this morning. Remember when Lane Kiffen 389 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 1: went the Raiders, Al Davis forced in the draft JaMarcus Russell. 390 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 1: I talked to Lane about this ten years ago. He 391 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:40,399 Speaker 1: didn't want to draft him. Nobody can win with JaMarcus Russell. 392 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 1: Don't blame the coach Shane Steikin last year. It's so 393 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:47,879 Speaker 1: amazing how good Shane Steiken is. Again, it's like he 394 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 1: forgot football last year. Well, look at the quarterback play 395 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:55,439 Speaker 1: like Kevin O'Connell. Everybody bangs on the coaches. If you 396 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 1: don't have the right quarterback, everybody looks incompetent. You gotta 397 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 1: get the cour quarterback right in Miami, and you need 398 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:03,680 Speaker 1: a little bit of alpha. But you don't want to 399 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 1: give up too much innovation. Mike McDaniel smart, lot of innovation. 400 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:12,639 Speaker 1: Kiffin would give you the innovation, more alpha. College football coaches. 401 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 1: Now they're CEOs. They used to just be recruiters. Now 402 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 1: they got a salary cap. Now they got to pay players. 403 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 1: Now they got to negotiate contracts the college guys. Jim 404 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:27,679 Speaker 1: Harbaugh was basically a pro coach at Michigan. That's what 405 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 1: Lane Kiffin is. An old miss jmck with the news. 406 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 5: No, no turn on the news. 407 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:37,360 Speaker 1: This is the herd line news. Be nice. 408 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 2: If Lane got to pick his quarterback and he had 409 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 2: the choice of a guy like Lamar Jackson, who was 410 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:44,640 Speaker 2: phenomenal last night, Colin, my goodness, we haven't talked about 411 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 2: it enough. Four tuddies in the role to victory over 412 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:50,920 Speaker 2: halfless Miami error pro Miami. 413 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 1: Here's the interesting thing. 414 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 2: Baltimore now minus one eighty to win the AFC North Meeting. 415 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 1: You got to lay one hundred and eighty bucks to 416 00:21:58,600 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 1: win one hundred. 417 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 2: If you had this a few weeks ago when we 418 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 2: told you to, you might be a rich man. 419 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's a lock. 420 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:07,640 Speaker 2: But we all know the dealers are a fool's gold 421 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:08,359 Speaker 2: the Brown State. 422 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 1: I love watching Lamar Jackson play. Well, let me ask 423 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 1: so he didn't look as it's his first game back. 424 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:18,919 Speaker 2: He didn't look as fast and fleet a foot any right, 425 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 2: would you agree? 426 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he's probably at ninety percent. He's got to, 427 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 1: you know. I mean, I My take is quarterbacks first 428 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:27,919 Speaker 1: game back from injury in the NFL is a brotherhood. 429 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:30,879 Speaker 1: You want to play when you're hurt. You don't in baseball, 430 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:33,199 Speaker 1: you don't in basketball. So I don't think Lamar Jackson's 431 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:35,359 Speaker 1: one hundred percent health. He's probably ninety percent. And so 432 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 1: my take on it, he's not going to run as effectively, 433 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 1: he's not going to run as much, he's not going 434 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 1: to look quite as fast. He's fine, But in the NFL, 435 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:47,479 Speaker 1: a lot of times quarterbacks especially will play hurt because 436 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 1: they know the beating their old linemen take and running 437 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 1: backs take and tight ends take. So quarterbacks tend to 438 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:56,680 Speaker 1: want to get on the field and be part of 439 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,680 Speaker 1: the room, be part of the brotherhood. So I don't 440 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 1: think I think brock Perty is gonna come back. He's 441 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 1: not going to be one hundred percent healthy. I don't 442 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 1: think Lamar was last night. 443 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 2: Upcoming five games for the Ravens here the quarterbacks. They 444 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 2: will face at JJ McCarthy, at Dylan Gabriel versus Justin 445 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 2: Fields versus Jake Browning versus Aaron Rodgers. That smells like 446 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,200 Speaker 2: five and oh, maybe they slip up in Cleveland, which 447 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 2: does play tough defense at home, but four and one, 448 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 2: five and oh, just the Ravens are coming, folks. 449 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 1: Let's go to it. 450 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:34,639 Speaker 2: Let's stay in the AFC North, go to the Pittsburgh Steelers. 451 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:35,919 Speaker 1: I can't wait for them to. 452 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 2: Fall off so we can stop talking about these guys. 453 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 1: They're just not a good football team. 454 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 2: They're to the point that Cam Hayward, one of their 455 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:44,879 Speaker 2: defensive leaders, is calling out the team for having a 456 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,680 Speaker 2: pathetic defense. Here he is ahead of the matchup against 457 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 2: the Colts. 458 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 5: I just think we all just got to get better. 459 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:57,199 Speaker 5: I challenge everybody. 460 00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 4: I challenge myself. 461 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 5: Foremost. You know, that's always the way I've been raised. 462 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:05,360 Speaker 5: You can't look at anybody else. You got to look 463 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:09,680 Speaker 5: at yourself. And you know the way to get this 464 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 5: bad taste our mouth is just play better football. 465 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:16,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't understand the line here, so I stayed away. 466 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 1: I think the Colts are ten points better. I think 467 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:22,400 Speaker 1: the good teams have pulled away from the Steelers, both 468 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:25,639 Speaker 1: Green Bay and Seattle in Pittsburgh completely pulled away. In 469 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:28,359 Speaker 1: the second half. I think the Colts will pull away 470 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 1: in the second half. I don't understand the line, and 471 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:33,680 Speaker 1: when I don't understand stuff, I avoid it. But I think, 472 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 1: like Green Bay, you have a very efficient offense that 473 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 1: over the course of twelve possessions and that Pittsburgh hit 474 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,440 Speaker 1: and miss defense. I like the Colts here. 475 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:48,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll try to help some people understand it. I'm 476 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 2: gonna save all my juice on this one for headlines 477 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 2: next hour. 478 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 1: That's called the teas in the industry. 479 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:56,360 Speaker 2: Mister Calhert. I'll try to help the folks understand. 480 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 1: Final story. Let's go to Wenby Colin. He was it. 481 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 2: Actually, Lat's say he's becoming must see TV. I'm not 482 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:04,120 Speaker 2: ready to call him the best player in the league, 483 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,679 Speaker 2: but he's pretty damn close. How about this line? Colin 484 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:12,400 Speaker 2: twenty eight eighteen six assists, five blocks, The Spurs are 485 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:14,360 Speaker 2: five and oh they covered the spread again last night. 486 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 2: I'm telling you they've been a good bet so far 487 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 2: this season. Remember, dude is awesome. Remember Remember the early criticisms. 488 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:23,360 Speaker 1: I remember when he was coming in and they were 489 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 1: calling him the best prospect ever, including Lebron and were 490 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:28,680 Speaker 1: and people were in and I think he is because 491 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:31,200 Speaker 1: he can do things defensively Lebron can't. He just has 492 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 1: genetic size advantages. So but da knock was he'll get 493 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 1: pushed round my people. Yeah, I'm watching the video. Where 494 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 1: are the pushers? O? 495 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 2: Bam Manebayo dunked on him, but who cares? It's one 496 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 2: dunk and we talked about it. He's like, I'll challenge anything. 497 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 2: I love that attitude. I'm just saying, I know everybody 498 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:50,359 Speaker 2: thinks the Thunder the best team in the league. Fine, 499 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 2: they're also undefeated. They're very good. I think it's worth 500 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 2: putting a couple bucks on the San Antonio Spurs to 501 00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:58,119 Speaker 2: win the title. 502 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,640 Speaker 1: I'm not I'm dead serious coluing. I know they're young. 503 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,879 Speaker 2: They got the rookie point guard that they drafted, they 504 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 2: got the young kid Castle. They don't even have Dearon 505 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 2: fox back yet he's not even playing for them. 506 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:10,200 Speaker 1: He's like an all star level player. 507 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:14,680 Speaker 2: This is a really strong team and I don't know 508 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:16,199 Speaker 2: if you how closer you can watch him, I'll be 509 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 2: shocked if they're not top. 510 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 1: Four in the West. Wemby in the middle has altered 511 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 1: so many shots. 512 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 2: Well, they all don't want to drive the lane on them. 513 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,359 Speaker 1: Also, their starting five is really good. Yeah, von Castle 514 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 1: is a great player. I don't know about their bench, 515 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 1: but the starting five for the Spurs is Western Conference 516 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 1: final worthy. You just cross your fingers on Wemby's health. 517 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,880 Speaker 1: Could you call him a modern Shack. He's as dominant, 518 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:38,639 Speaker 1: but he's just different because he could hit three. I 519 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:44,880 Speaker 1: think urable European bigs Alprin, Shangoon, Jokich, Wemby, they're as 520 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:49,360 Speaker 1: skilled as our number two's are off guards are. That's 521 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:52,440 Speaker 1: the difference. European players are more skilled at a much 522 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:56,879 Speaker 1: earlier level than our domestic players. Yeah, you watch sh Goon, Like, 523 00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:00,879 Speaker 1: dude's got handles, he has a beautiful touch. He can pass. 524 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 1: I covered our Vitas Sibonis in Portland, like he was 525 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:07,640 Speaker 1: the best passer on that Trailblazer team. Our Vetas Sabonis 526 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,679 Speaker 1: the center was so our guys have been brute force 527 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 1: like Shack, you know, or our bigs have you know me? 528 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 1: I will say Bill Walton was ahead of his time. 529 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,359 Speaker 1: He had sort of a European field where he could shoot, 530 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,679 Speaker 1: he had touched, he could pass. Bill Walton was like 531 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 1: three decades four decades before his time. But largely these 532 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 1: international bigs they are in. They are so skilled and 533 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 1: it just separates them from other eras. 534 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 2: So the baseball unicorn plays his final games of the 535 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:43,199 Speaker 2: season this weekend, Oh Tani and the basketball unicorn ushered in. 536 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,160 Speaker 1: How about this. Remember last year when Wemby was taking 537 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 1: all these threes. Yeah, and I'm like, folks, he's seven five. 538 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:56,160 Speaker 1: Get him closer to the basket. Stop with the math equations. 539 00:27:56,520 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 1: Wemby this year taking twice as many shots from ten 540 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 1: feet and in some of you analytic nerds, some of 541 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 1: you gms out there with your math equations seven to four, 542 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:13,880 Speaker 1: get him close to the basket. We watch playoff basketball. 543 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 1: You know, all these teams that shoot threes, they have 544 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 1: these streaky halves where they're off. The Celtics will have 545 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:24,160 Speaker 1: these halves and you're like, they're unwatchable. You can get 546 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 1: a bucket with this between Castle, between Wemby, you can 547 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 1: get a two. It feels like about sixty percent of 548 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:34,640 Speaker 1: the time with the Spurs and there's nothing anybody can 549 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 1: do about it. Jmack with the News, Well that's the news, 550 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 1: and thanks for stopping by. The herd Line News Oklahoma 551 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 1: City was like, oh, the world's are oyster. We're gonna 552 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 1: win all these games. Good luck, good luck with Wemby. 553 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 1: I mean the good news for Okce. They've got chet Holmgren, 554 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 1: so they've got some size as well. But Wemby's just different, 555 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 1: and I remember that. Oh watch our guys. Domestic guys 556 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 1: will push him around. Dude, he makes six eleven guys 557 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 1: look small. He really does. His length is just insane. 558 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 1: Dodger Season on the Brink, Upset on the Horizon in 559 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 1: the NFL. Both next It's The Herd. 560 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 6: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 561 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 6: and noon Easter not a em Pacific. 562 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 1: Play the Fox Super Six NFL Challenge. 563 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 2: Download the Fox Sports app and enter for a free 564 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 2: shot to win your share of ten thousand dollars. One 565 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 2: of the questions is which QB will have the most 566 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 2: passing yards this week? Stafford against the Saints, Jordan Love 567 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 2: against the Panthers, Goff against the Vikings, or Trevor Lawrence 568 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 2: against the Raiders. 569 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 1: This is little tricky Colin. Who you got Matthew Stafford 570 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 1: against the Saints. Poka Nako is back? Can I throw 571 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 1: this out to you? 572 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 5: Well? 573 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 2: Wait, hold on, what is Stafford's what, I throw up 574 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 2: twenty to nothing in the second quarter and they just 575 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:01,080 Speaker 2: shut him down. 576 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 1: They don't do that. McVeigh doesn't do that. I'll tell 577 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 1: you what's weird. Do you have Packers Panthers in your picks? 578 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 1: I do I have a weird feeling? Yeah, yep. I 579 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 1: looked at the numbers on this game. I came an 580 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 1: inch on picking the Panthers in this game. It's a 581 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 1: bit of a t I like saving the good stuff. 582 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 1: It's a trap spot. So they had an Aaron Rodgers 583 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,960 Speaker 1: game last week, yep, they had Eagles next week. 584 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 2: It's so easy to just be like, oh, hey, here 585 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 2: come the Panthers and the red rifle. He may start, 586 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:40,240 Speaker 2: it's unclear Rice well Young is practicing. We'll see if 587 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 2: it's young, they got a shot. Just go ahead, go ahead. 588 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 1: If you go to Lambeau, just don't get all worked up. Hey, 589 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 1: come on, put your money where your mouth is. Nig guy, 590 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 1: Come on, take the thirteen. Go ahead. 591 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 5: Now. 592 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 1: I was very close to taking him. I think it's 593 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 1: a trap spot for Green Bay. I think it ends 594 00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 1: up being like twenty eight twenty three Bay wins. It's 595 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 1: very competitive. I'm just gonna say that right now. So 596 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 1: the Dodgers season is on the break. Now, I said this, 597 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 1: that's good for baseball. You don't want Katie and Warriors 598 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 1: where it feels unfair. The Dodgers are the only team 599 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 1: in baseball where if they lose the World Series it's 600 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 1: a failed season. Now, you could say the Yankees. But 601 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 1: the minute the Yankees lost last year to the Dodgers, 602 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 1: what was the first thing everybody said? Dodgers have much 603 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 1: better players, Dodgers are much better roster. Dodgers top to 604 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 1: bottom are the only time the Yankees competed when Garrett 605 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 1: Cole pitched. They look like an average team compared to 606 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 1: the Dodgers. I think a lot of the dodgers struggles 607 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 1: in this series are pressure. Last year the World Series, 608 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 1: the pressure was on the Yankees and the Dodgers. This 609 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 1: year it's all on La And I think you can 610 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:52,360 Speaker 1: see it at the plate. They're getting non competitive at bats. 611 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 1: They're getting a lot of really bad at bats. Mookie's 612 00:31:55,800 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 1: flailing months. He doesn't look right. So I think baseball, 613 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 1: like golf, is one of those sports a lot of downtime, 614 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 1: it gets into your head. You can get in a 615 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 1: real slumps, even for great players. So I think the 616 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 1: perfect the magic elicks or to solve that is Yoshi. 617 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 1: So again, a lot of these Asian players come over 618 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 1: and they don't listen to American media. They don't care. 619 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 1: They come over, they've got a guru. They do their 620 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 1: own thing. They are from that perspective in the media. 621 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:28,960 Speaker 1: They're removed from it. And this kid, Wired to Wire 622 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 1: has been an ace all of his thirty starts. He 623 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 1: is perfect mechanics, totally focused, unique personality. That is what 624 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 1: you need in Toronto. You need a guy that is 625 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 1: completely laser focused, is absolutely unaffected. He was an ace 626 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:51,760 Speaker 1: in Japan, he's an ace in Los Angeles. I don't 627 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 1: know if they could win this series. I don't know 628 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 1: if the Dodgers could. They can even it up with 629 00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 1: Yoshi because he's kind of the perfect personality, great mechanics, 630 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:06,960 Speaker 1: totally focused, unaffected. Dave Roberts talked about him last night. 631 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 8: I think, you know, he's pitched in huge ball games 632 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:15,480 Speaker 8: in Japan, he's pitched in the WBC, and you know, 633 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 8: players that have the weight of a country on their shoulders, 634 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 8: there's that's pressure, and so I just feel that part 635 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 8: of his DNA is to just perform at a high 636 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 8: level in big spots and control his heartbeat and just 637 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:35,600 Speaker 8: continue to make patches pitches. 638 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 1: I've said this, there are advantages to your best player 639 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 1: being an international player. Like I've always thought, the international 640 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:50,640 Speaker 1: basketball players come in more mature. You know, their families 641 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 1: are overseas. So when they come to America, these international 642 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,240 Speaker 1: players like a Wenby or a Jokich, and a majority 643 00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 1: of their family is overseas, and their friends and their 644 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 1: history and the culture they really feel embedded in. They 645 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 1: just come over here to play basketball. They're not distracted 646 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,600 Speaker 1: at all. I think there's a huge advantage for a 647 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:13,520 Speaker 1: lot of international basketball players. And there is a great 648 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:17,440 Speaker 1: number of great Southeast Asia baseball players, and they come 649 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:19,319 Speaker 1: in and they're not affected by our media. They're not 650 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:21,880 Speaker 1: listening to talk radio or they're not you know, they don't. 651 00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:27,239 Speaker 1: They really come in totally focused. Yoshi is such a 652 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:31,920 Speaker 1: unique personality. He's just unaffected by everything. He was an 653 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,880 Speaker 1: ace in Japan. He's an ace here and there are 654 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,040 Speaker 1: there you know. And I've said this before. When I 655 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,640 Speaker 1: go overseas or when you go overseas, it is different. 656 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:43,040 Speaker 1: I'm a visitor, I act differently. I tip differently. I'm 657 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:48,040 Speaker 1: probably more generous with my time. I probably illustrate more patients. 658 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 1: You know, I change a little bit, a little bit 659 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:52,880 Speaker 1: of a chameleon. When I don't know, I just I 660 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,360 Speaker 1: just think I do. So a lot of these athletes 661 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,839 Speaker 1: that are international athletes, they come over here and they 662 00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:02,360 Speaker 1: have a very unique focus, and I think sometimes it 663 00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:05,800 Speaker 1: is hard, you know, Like I've heard this from athletes. 664 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,360 Speaker 1: They don't want to plan in their hometown. I remember 665 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 1: talking to Damon Stodhomyren once when he came back to 666 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,240 Speaker 1: Portland and he says, you know, in Toronto he played 667 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,719 Speaker 1: for the Rafters. He's like, I can go hide. It's 668 00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:18,320 Speaker 1: I can't hide in Portland. I've got all my family 669 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:21,120 Speaker 1: and relatives and friends here, and so he said, you know, 670 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:26,040 Speaker 1: it creates different challenges. So I like the Dodgers in 671 00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 1: this spot tonight, but so far, the Jays have done 672 00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:34,160 Speaker 1: a much better job of making the Dodgers uncomfortable. And 673 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:37,160 Speaker 1: the Dodgers stars aren't hitting, and so Toronto's playing with 674 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,960 Speaker 1: a ton of confidence. They're playing downhill house money tonight. 675 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:42,359 Speaker 1: They're the underdogs in the series. There's not a lot 676 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:45,680 Speaker 1: of pressure, especially tonight. So I'll take Dodgers tonight, but 677 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:47,680 Speaker 1: in the game seven, be hard to bet against the 678 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:53,080 Speaker 1: Blue Jays. So I was saying earlier there, I think 679 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:56,120 Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears have been fascinating with Caleb Williams. So 680 00:35:56,600 --> 00:36:00,680 Speaker 1: when these young quarterbacks come into the NFL, you can 681 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:04,480 Speaker 1: see some that are immediately don't work. You know JaMarcus 682 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:06,640 Speaker 1: Russell when he came into the league, like that doesn't work. 683 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 1: You know, Zach Wilson, It's like, I don't think that's 684 00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:13,319 Speaker 1: gonna work. And then there are those that immediately you're like, oh, 685 00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:19,080 Speaker 1: that works, like Jaden Daniels last year, Joe Burrow. I mean, 686 00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:21,319 Speaker 1: I think Cam Newton's first year, you're like, you're you're 687 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:23,839 Speaker 1: gonna win some games with Cam Newton. And then you 688 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,640 Speaker 1: get into these relationships where it's like Caleb Williams, where 689 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:32,960 Speaker 1: you're like, okay, all new coaching staff. Second year, something's good, 690 00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:36,439 Speaker 1: it's hard. Here's where I think Caleb Williams is at. 691 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:40,359 Speaker 1: I don't think he is at the place where he 692 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:44,200 Speaker 1: can handle a ton of discomfort. I think when he 693 00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:49,520 Speaker 1: faces the Cowboys defense or this weekend, the Bengals defense, 694 00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:53,200 Speaker 1: he's got more comfort and extra beat to throw and 695 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:56,440 Speaker 1: extra beat to make a decision. He can be highly effective. 696 00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 1: He probably needs another fifteen starts to get to the point, 697 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,960 Speaker 1: or he could face the Chiefs defense and be comfortable. Now, 698 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:06,600 Speaker 1: some guys never get comfortable. Justin Fields has never gotten 699 00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,520 Speaker 1: comfortable against the league defenses. But Justin Fields will give 700 00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:13,600 Speaker 1: you these starts against bad defenses. You're like, oh, whoa. 701 00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:17,640 Speaker 1: But he's never been able to pivot to the quarterback 702 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,680 Speaker 1: that can do it against great defenses. So I think 703 00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:24,600 Speaker 1: Caleb is in that. You give him the Cowboys or 704 00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:27,399 Speaker 1: the Bengals. I like the Bears this weekend, and it's 705 00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:30,600 Speaker 1: going to look different last week. Ravens are healthy on 706 00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:34,680 Speaker 1: the road, you don't get the time, a little more pressure, 707 00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:39,160 Speaker 1: a little better safety play, and it unravels. Eric Mangini 708 00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:41,960 Speaker 1: earlier on what he's seen from the Ben Johnson Caleb 709 00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:42,960 Speaker 1: Williams relationship. 710 00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:47,759 Speaker 3: It's interesting last year when they were right before the 711 00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:51,440 Speaker 3: Washington game, or leading up to the Washington game, they 712 00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:53,800 Speaker 3: were four and two, and then they had that terrible, 713 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,680 Speaker 3: terrible loss, and Caleb had three games in a row 714 00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:59,440 Speaker 3: where he's below eighty in a quarterback rating. Here we 715 00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:01,440 Speaker 3: are a year later, they have the terrible loss, of 716 00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:04,040 Speaker 3: the Ravens, and he's in a three game stretch of 717 00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:07,319 Speaker 3: below eighty quarterback rating. A year he moved with a 718 00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:10,920 Speaker 3: totally different head coach, a different team, different situation. So 719 00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:15,759 Speaker 3: you're I'm disappointed that that that's where we are a 720 00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:16,440 Speaker 3: year later. 721 00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:21,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, I listen the A lot of guys you know 722 00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:24,360 Speaker 1: instantly not gonna work. And there's a very small handful 723 00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:28,799 Speaker 1: of guys immediately you know that's gonna work. The majority 724 00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:33,799 Speaker 1: of young quarterbacks. It's the other seventy five percent. You 725 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,439 Speaker 1: see stuff, But is it ever going to sync up? 726 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:41,120 Speaker 1: Like I think officially Bo Nicks works, Jayden Daniels works, 727 00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:46,560 Speaker 1: Drake May works. I think Caleb, Williams and Pennix are 728 00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:50,240 Speaker 1: in the you know I need I need another ten stars. 729 00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:54,120 Speaker 1: But the good news for Caleb, He's got Ben Johnson, 730 00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:57,600 Speaker 1: Michael Pennix has a defensive coach, and I think that 731 00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:00,640 Speaker 1: stuff matters. So as we look at the NFL schedule 732 00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:04,320 Speaker 1: this weekend, I like I like the Bears against Dallas. 733 00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:07,040 Speaker 1: I like the Bears again. I think Caleb will have 734 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:11,320 Speaker 1: time just an extra beat. We showed you yesterday the 735 00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:13,920 Speaker 1: quickest release time in the NFL is Patrick Malmes at 736 00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:17,279 Speaker 1: two point six seconds. The slowest is Caleb at three 737 00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:21,280 Speaker 1: point one. It's just a beat. It's just a one thousand, 738 00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:25,640 Speaker 1: that's it. It's just an extra beat, an extra step 739 00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:29,120 Speaker 1: for the receiver to get open. So the games I'm 740 00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:31,600 Speaker 1: really interested to watch. I want to see if JJ 741 00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:33,960 Speaker 1: McCarthy plays at Detroit. I want to see what it 742 00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:38,319 Speaker 1: looks like. Everybody loves Detroit. I'm staying away. Everybody loves 743 00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:41,080 Speaker 1: Green Bay. I'm staying away. A couple of weeks ago, 744 00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:42,840 Speaker 1: we had this where the Chargers were going to the 745 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:46,359 Speaker 1: Giants and the Bills were playing the Saints, and everybody 746 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:49,440 Speaker 1: loaded up on the big favorites. I like small favorites 747 00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:51,960 Speaker 1: this weekend, and one of the small favorites I like. 748 00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:55,200 Speaker 1: I like the Niners and I like the Bears, both 749 00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:57,400 Speaker 1: as slight road favorites. 750 00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:01,719 Speaker 2: Okay, big update here from NFL reporters Bryce Young. His 751 00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:06,360 Speaker 2: ankle is fine, no injury designation. He will start in 752 00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:08,840 Speaker 2: Lambeau against the Packers. 753 00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:09,040 Speaker 1: Now. 754 00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:11,279 Speaker 2: I haven't shifted over to the line to see if 755 00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:14,040 Speaker 2: it's moved, but that does something for you. I see 756 00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:17,200 Speaker 2: you grinning over there, almost like you're giddy to jump 757 00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:18,920 Speaker 2: on the Bryce Young Bamboos. 758 00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:24,480 Speaker 1: Also, brock Bowers is now healthy for the Raiders. Keep 759 00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:28,960 Speaker 1: your eye on the Raiders upsetting the Jags, and keep 760 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:34,160 Speaker 1: your eye on the Carolina Panthers making it very uncomfortable 761 00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:36,040 Speaker 1: for three and a half quarters against the Packers. 762 00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:38,560 Speaker 2: So I don't hate that, except for the fact that 763 00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:42,439 Speaker 2: I'll talk about it next hour. I just the last 764 00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:44,319 Speaker 2: time the Packers had success. Remember they win the first 765 00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:47,719 Speaker 2: two games over the Lions and Washington, and everybody crowned them, Oh, 766 00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:49,520 Speaker 2: they're going to be in the super Bowl, and then 767 00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:52,040 Speaker 2: they just started sputtering. They couldn't cover the spread. They're 768 00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:54,720 Speaker 2: not putting teams away, they don't have that knockout punch. 769 00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,440 Speaker 2: And I wonder after that big win on Sunday Night 770 00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:00,759 Speaker 2: Football over Tomlin, are they going to go back to 771 00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:02,959 Speaker 2: being the old Packers or did they unlock something because 772 00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:05,960 Speaker 2: then second half Colin they killed Pittsburgh. I guarantee I 773 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:07,680 Speaker 2: think it was a twenty eight nothing run or something. 774 00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:11,200 Speaker 1: If you ask Matt Lafleuur privately, I think he's terrified 775 00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:15,040 Speaker 1: of this game. Well, no, see, no huge favorite at home. 776 00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:19,360 Speaker 1: Coaches hate this spot. He'd rather go to Carolina and 777 00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:22,319 Speaker 1: play because the players would get more dialed in. This 778 00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:25,200 Speaker 1: is a top keep your eye, pack your nation,