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Speaker 1: And now Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 1: What's up, everybody, Welcome to Move the Sticks presented by

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Speaker 1: the Ford f series. DJ. Bucky here with you. We've

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Speaker 1: got our man Sully back in town. Nice to have

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Speaker 1: Sully back. We're gonna get Sully to jump in here

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Speaker 1: to stick around for that. It's gonna be a spirited

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Speaker 1: discussion on his Tennessee volunteers on what went right? What

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Speaker 1: went wrong? Selly, save it, save it, save it, save it.

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Speaker 1: I want you to save all of your energy until

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Speaker 1: we get to that discussion. Buck. What are we getting

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Speaker 1: to today on on the show? What we Got? Oh,

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Speaker 1: we got so much to get into. We're gonna do

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Speaker 1: with Olin of the week. We're gonna talk to our

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Speaker 1: and what they bring to the table. We also would

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Speaker 1: discuss Eli Manning going to the bench. What in the

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Speaker 1: world is going Yeah, we've got some we'll have some

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Speaker 1: fun there on the coaching carousel, the college stuff as

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Speaker 1: well as some of the big college football games. So

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Speaker 1: a lot to get to. I think though we need

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Speaker 1: of injuries. I did not think Eli Manning was problem No. One,

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Speaker 1: but his consecutive start streak is coming to a close

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Speaker 1: two hundred and ten straight games. There will not be

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Speaker 1: I think it's a wow word. But I think if

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Speaker 1: we really looked at this in context, I think part

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Speaker 1: of being a decision maker is being able to take

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Speaker 1: safe to say that, like, he's a declining player at

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Speaker 1: So if you firmly believe that the class offered a

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Speaker 1: Key players in the draft. Yeah, conspiracy theorists and I

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Speaker 1: You're gonna You're gonna get you a couple of ball

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Speaker 1: Geno Smith might not be good enough for you to

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Speaker 1: And if we're so fired up about this quarterback class.

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Speaker 1: the game. Um, but just the atmosphere you know, around

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Speaker 1: it and the caliber players, you know, I mean, it

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Speaker 1: was it was a great battle. And that's the thing.

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Speaker 1: The environment is so different even than the National championship Man,

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Speaker 1: I was blessed to be in four those at Florida

434
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Speaker 1: State and and it's different than that because you feel

435
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Speaker 1: like it's more of a corporate setting. Maybe I don't

436
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Speaker 1: know how it is now, but in the national championship

437
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Speaker 1: games and and I know in those conference championship games,

438
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Speaker 1: I know the sec gets overblown a little bit, but

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Speaker 1: it is it is kind of a wild environment. And uh,

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Speaker 1: you know inside outside just putting in the stadium, there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of people with the games don't have tickets.

442
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Speaker 1: They're just there, you know, and they're outside and I

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Speaker 1: think to see the caliber of the players and guys

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Speaker 1: that elevate their play. You know, it's just a fun

445
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Speaker 1: thing to be a party. You talked about that equal

446
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Speaker 1: staff and might grow the receiver's coach with the rams

447
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Speaker 1: and and uh like I said Jeff stoutand they were

448
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Speaker 1: both on that Alabama staff that beat us that here.

449
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Speaker 1: So but you're still you still remain friends. That says

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Speaker 1: a lot about your character. Somehow, somehow we do I

451
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Speaker 1: don't know, no doubt. Hey, coach, this is uh, this

452
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Speaker 1: is absolute money stuff here. We've enjoyed having you on

453
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Speaker 1: throughout the year. We'll even get you on here one

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Speaker 1: our time. You are Special Projects Consultant. I think that's

455
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Speaker 1: the official title that we're giving you. You nailed it

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Speaker 1: today on the Eagles, and I appreciate your insight on

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Speaker 1: the college side as well. I look forward to doing

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Speaker 1: this again real soon. Surely. I love it. Appreciated guys.

459
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Speaker 1: That was good stuff there. Co I mean, look, coaches

460
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Speaker 1: is dialed in, has been doing his homework. I love

461
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Speaker 1: it when you get these coaches, Bucky, that are kind

462
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Speaker 1: of in that sabbatical year we saw Chip Kelly kind

463
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Speaker 1: of just spent his year out of football and then

464
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Speaker 1: got back in. They take on these these projects and

465
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Speaker 1: we've been fortunate enough to have coach literally this kind

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Speaker 1: of help us out. Give us, uh, what he's seeing,

467
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Speaker 1: what he's studying. Fascinating stuff there, especially with the Eagles.

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Speaker 1: Fascinating stuff. I mean the way he broke it down,

469
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Speaker 1: what they're doing with the young quarterback, talk about the

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Speaker 1: run pass option, what they're doing with the running game,

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Speaker 1: and how balanced they are. You see, all things are

472
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Speaker 1: clicking with the Eagles offense. Is one of the reasons

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Speaker 1: why they wanted the tougher teams to beat this season.

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Speaker 1: He mentioned it right at the top though. It does

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Speaker 1: help when you've got a quarterback playing at a very

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Speaker 1: high level. And I would imagine unless they're playing in

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, which they could well be the way

478
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Speaker 1: they're rolling right now, Carson Wentz will be in the

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Speaker 1: Pro Bowl. Here's the good news for fans at home

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Speaker 1: your favorite players. They're playing in Orlando this year is

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Speaker 1: where the game's gonna be. So NFL dot Com slash

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Speaker 1: Pro Bowl vote. All right, let's let's jump over to

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Speaker 1: the college side here, and before Sully jumps out of

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Speaker 1: his skin, I do want to promote one of the

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Speaker 1: things we're doing on NFL dot Com. Each and every

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Speaker 1: fascinating stories. And this week it's a man from Clemson

493
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Speaker 1: who's one of the best defensive lineman in the NFL

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Speaker 1: or in the college football I should say, yeah, Christian

495
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Speaker 1: Wilkins is a dominant player. He's a guy that is

496
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Speaker 1: a rarity at the position, someone that can play from

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Speaker 1: the one to the nine technique. I mean he can

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Speaker 1: line up over to sin, he can go all the

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Speaker 1: way outside and be a stand up outside linebacker. You

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Speaker 1: won't see athletic freaks with his kind of talent coming

501
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Speaker 1: to the league often. That is why there's so many

502
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Speaker 1: scouts salivating over his potential to be a top pick,

503
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Speaker 1: outstanding player and a good story. So do yourself a

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505
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Speaker 1: that story. They're good stuff on a great player, all right, Selly.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna get to the coaching Carosell in a second,

507
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Speaker 1: which is gonna get us to a spirited debate here

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Speaker 1: on your Tennessee volunteers before we do that, though, a

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Speaker 1: couple of things buck the games last week, the conference

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Speaker 1: championship games. I know it's been a couple of days now.

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Speaker 1: Biggest takeaway for you from what we saw last week,

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Speaker 1: couple upsets number one, number two they go down. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Alabama and Auburn was a big one from me. I

514
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Speaker 1: think the big thing with uh Auburn winning was a

515
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Speaker 1: physicality and toughness of their team on offense and defense.

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Speaker 1: You've talked about the running back Karry and Johnson being

517
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Speaker 1: a stud and he does, and all the things that

518
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Speaker 1: you wrote about him being some levying bail typist playmaker.

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Speaker 1: He certainly showed that. And then when I look at Alabama,

520
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Speaker 1: the same issues continue to plague them. The passing game

521
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Speaker 1: is inconsistent. You see some of the big bodies and

522
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Speaker 1: things that we're doing, but when they get behind, they

523
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Speaker 1: just don't have this hurry up ability to kind of

524
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Speaker 1: put points on the board and dramatic fashion. I think

525
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Speaker 1: it ultimately came back to bite him in the game.

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Speaker 1: Your boy Judy made a big catch, big touchdown catch.

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Speaker 1: They got young playmakers, but I mean their ability to

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Speaker 1: open it up is kind of limited. I don't think

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Speaker 1: that is what their quarterback does really well. We'll see

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Speaker 1: how it goes as they played out. How about Ohio

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Speaker 1: State in Michigan and Ohio State keeps it rolling Michigan. Man,

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Speaker 1: they have got to find a quarterback. There's too much

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Speaker 1: talent on that football team to be where they are

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Speaker 1: with four losses. I know they had a bunch of

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Speaker 1: guys they lost last year. I think what twenty guys

536
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Speaker 1: or something they sent to the league in some fashion,

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Speaker 1: some form of fashion this year though still young talented players.

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Speaker 1: Four losses five and four in the Big Ten not

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Speaker 1: good enough, Buck, And I think you just point right

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Speaker 1: there at the quarterback position. They better figure that out.

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Speaker 1: They gotta figure it out. But I want to talk

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Speaker 1: about the other quarterback. I think the interesting thing will

543
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Speaker 1: be when we have our evaluation. There's been their run

544
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Speaker 1: up in the conversation a JT. Barrett and JT. Barrett

545
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Speaker 1: is a guy that is the only Ohio State quarterback

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Speaker 1: to win four games against Michigan. He's four and as

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Speaker 1: a starter against them. Um. The conversation continues to go

548
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Speaker 1: up and down whether he's a draftable player or not. Um.

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Speaker 1: When you get into the mix and you see the

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Speaker 1: backup quarterback Haskins come in, and Haskins looks like to

551
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Speaker 1: me and if he looks like he's a dude, he

552
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Speaker 1: can sling it or whatever. I'm curious to see what

553
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Speaker 1: Barrett looks like against Wisconsin, because I think Wisconsin is underrated.

554
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Speaker 1: But I want to see Wisconsin's defense kind of crowded

555
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Speaker 1: line of scrimmage and darre j t Barrett to beat

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Speaker 1: them with the arm and see if he continued to

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Speaker 1: take steps and make progress as a prospect. Yeah, I

558
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Speaker 1: know it's Um. It's look, I haven't found anybody that's

559
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Speaker 1: in love with him as a prospect. Everybody loves him

560
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Speaker 1: as a kid. It'll be interesting evaluation as we go

561
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Speaker 1: for a couple other takeaways. Stanford all over Notre Dame. Stanford,

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Speaker 1: those big tight ends, not afraid to just throw it

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Speaker 1: up when you get down there in the red zone.

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Speaker 1: I thought Notre Dame look a little bit tired, a

565
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Speaker 1: little bit beat up after the stretch that they've run through. Uh,

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Speaker 1: Washington end up beating Clawbard Washington State in the game

567
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Speaker 1: that didn't really matter to Washington meant everything to Washington State.

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Speaker 1: I've talked to a couple of people. Actually, Bruce Felben,

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Speaker 1: our good buddy, sent me a text because he was

570
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Speaker 1: at this game and said, man, you've got to watch

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Speaker 1: this game and c V the bay what he did

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Speaker 1: for you, Dub And then unsolicited talked to a couple

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Speaker 1: of other value just around the league that said, go

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Speaker 1: watch what Vidave has done the last three or four weeks.

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Speaker 1: He is He is a freak show. I've said it

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Speaker 1: when I watched more over the summer, I thought he's

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Speaker 1: a better version of Don Terry Po and from everybody

578
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Speaker 1: that I talked to that studied in this year said

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Speaker 1: he's taken it to a whole other level, especially over

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Speaker 1: the last month. I mean, he's a dominant player, dominant

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Speaker 1: player on the inside. I think the big thing is,

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Speaker 1: how do you value a player like that? Does he

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Speaker 1: have the ability in our league? Can we reject him

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Speaker 1: to be a pass for us that can get you

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Speaker 1: six eight sacks on the inside, because if he's just

586
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Speaker 1: a run player only, it's hard to justify expanding a

587
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Speaker 1: top pick on someone in a league that is skewing

588
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Speaker 1: more towards the past. It'll be interesting to see that.

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Speaker 1: I think the other thing coming out of that game

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Speaker 1: Luke Fault. What do we make of Luke Fault? Right now?

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Speaker 1: You're talking about someone that we talked about as as

592
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Speaker 1: maybe the fourth rated quarterback in the class. But now

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Speaker 1: we've seen at the end of the season, we've seen

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Speaker 1: a bit of an implosion. We've seen him best a

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Speaker 1: couple of times. We've seen him have some games, We've

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Speaker 1: had multiple turnovers, didn't play well on a game that

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Speaker 1: could have pushed his team into the packs we have

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Speaker 1: title game. I think as an evaluating you have to

599
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Speaker 1: come to mark and hold those things against him because

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Speaker 1: he certainly hasn't played like a premier quarterback prospect. Remember

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Speaker 1: we talked about last year how you gotta give him

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Speaker 1: a lot of credit for what they were able to

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Speaker 1: do in the run game and all that. This game

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Speaker 1: against you dubbed fifteen carries for Washington State minus twenty

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Speaker 1: four rushing yards. I can't run the ball. You can't

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Speaker 1: run the ball. It's hard to win, it's hard to

607
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Speaker 1: be hard to be a one dimensional team against ver

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Speaker 1: very good defenses, and that is what is showing up.

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Speaker 1: Washington say he couldn't run the ball effectively and their

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Speaker 1: quarterback isn't good enough to put the team on his back.

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Speaker 1: Dante Pettis had injurying that game. Hopefully he's gonna be okay.

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Speaker 1: He's an outstanding player. If you missed him earlier this year,

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Speaker 1: he was on the podcast A really neat Kids. So

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Speaker 1: hopefully he's gonna be all right and see him at

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Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl. All right, we've put this off. I

616
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Speaker 1: can see the steam coming out of Sully's ears right

617
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Speaker 1: now because the college coaching carousel has now become maybe

618
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Speaker 1: my maybe my third favorite season of the year, not fourth.

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Speaker 1: I gotta to me, the draft is always my baby.

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Speaker 1: Then I'll go to draft. I'll go with the NFL season,

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Speaker 1: I'll go with the college season, and then it comes

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Speaker 1: down to college carousel, recruiting, uh, spring ball. I think

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Speaker 1: I might buck yet I might go college coaching carousel

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Speaker 1: right to the top of that. It's been on and

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Speaker 1: it's this year has been especially just off the rails. Well,

626
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Speaker 1: let's jump into it here. Uh, tell us why you

627
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Speaker 1: torpedo to coach as fans. By the way, Tennessee the

628
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Speaker 1: only fan base that allows face painters to pick their

629
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Speaker 1: head coach. But go ahead, and we got hey, so

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Speaker 1: I take out the Penn State stuff. Um, what does

631
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Speaker 1: all this measured takes from you right now? All this

632
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Speaker 1: fire and emotion from you earlier? You can get the

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Speaker 1: headset on and I get a measure, but your approach

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Speaker 1: take take out the Penn stage stuff, even though that

635
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Speaker 1: is um an issue with Tennessee because of the Title

636
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Speaker 1: nine cases in the past, and and we've had a

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Speaker 1: lot of issues of our own at Tennessee, so that

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Speaker 1: that refuted by everybody, But go ahead, well no, no no, no,

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Speaker 1: not not at Tennessee had their own state, the Penn

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Speaker 1: State thing. Throw throw that out. We can agree to

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Speaker 1: throw that out. We'll throw it out, but it and

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Speaker 1: I disagree with that too. But question question for you, Um,

643
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 1: the folks that were lobbying for Lane Kiffen to come back. Yeah, no,

644
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:13,440
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't don't agree with Lane Kiffen either.

645
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't agree with that. A lot of

646
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 1: Tennessee folks back his coordinator, by the way, who's Kendall Briles. Yeah,

647
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 1: but he was clear too, so that that that's that's

648
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,439
Speaker 1: that's complained. That's fine to take that. Penn State shouldn't

649
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,679
Speaker 1: even know that that that's that's different because we have

650
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 1: that was the rallying cry. It painted on your rock.

651
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 1: I don't don't let that skew everything that was when

652
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,239
Speaker 1: it got over the top. And I disagree with that.

653
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 1: I disagree with that statement completely. That you're you're turning

654
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 1: accusations into fact and that's wrong. So anyway, taking that out. Um.

655
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:49,240
Speaker 1: John Kelly, leader of the team, said, when asked after

656
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 1: Butch Jones was gone, what is the one thing you

657
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 1: were looking for in the head coach? Is this John Kelly,

658
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 1: the leader of the winless team in the SEC. But yeah,

659
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 1: I mean that doesn't have anything to do with it. Um,

660
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 1: he is, he is a leader, and he's a heck

661
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 1: of a running back. I just push his buttons. Yeah,

662
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 1: you're pushing my buttons. He said he wanted he wanted

663
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 1: he wanted to coach. He wanted a coach that you

664
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 1: could trust. And Greg Ciano along the entire way has

665
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 1: has shown quote uh, fear and distrust when he was

666
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 1: at Tampa. That's obviously not trust um. And he's he's

667
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 1: intimidating and downright disrespectful when he was at Rutgers. It

668
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 1: doesn't sound like a coach that you want to follow up.

669
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 1: But Jones, who was a sounds a lot like what

670
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 1: he was um at Tennessee. So intimidating. This was the

671
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 1: one word I wrote down there, disrespectful, fear and distrust

672
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 1: amongst the locker room in Tampa. Okay, hold on one second.

673
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 1: Disrespectful and feared. Yeah, Okay, Bucky, how would you describe

674
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 1: the Alabama head coach that? That's the thing. You describe

675
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 1: him as intimidating? Intimidating? Would you say that? And he

676
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 1: has been disrespectful to the media that I get. The

677
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 1: saving things I think you're scared of him or feared

678
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 1: is if you're gonna do question for you, question for

679
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 1: you to do that, go out and get the best

680
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 1: coach possible. It's not it's not question. It's not worth

681
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 1: all that baggage. Who's the best coach in college football?

682
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 1: And you can't dispute it? Nick Saban? Nick Saban, Okay, yeah,

683
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 1: who would vouch? Who? Who? Who is he? Who is

684
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 1: great Shiano closest to Bill Belichick? Urban Meyer? Yeah? Sure,

685
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 1: that's save And they're like clue. They're like, he's not Brothers,

686
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 1: He's not him. That's it's six of seven seven, six

687
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 1: of his last seven. How did he had Rutgers at

688
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 1: number three in the country. That is unbelievable to think

689
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 1: about that. But you know what, but you know what,

690
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 1: he wasn't successful with Tampa. And you know, we all

691
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 1: know how successful Bill Belichick was with the Browns. He

692
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 1: was awesome. Yeah before Steve Spurr. Yeah, I get it,

693
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 1: I get it. I just don't think I don't think

694
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 1: he's as good of a coach to follow up Butch

695
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 1: Jones to get the exact same thing, because he is,

696
00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 1: Butch Johns to point out. I just don't know who's

697
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 1: gonna be a better coach to come in, Uh, Mike Gundy,

698
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 1: Mike Leach, Kevin Sutherland, Jeff what does Mike just like

699
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 1: he's gonna leave to Tennesse. No, he's not. I didn't

700
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 1: say that, but that was the list that I put

701
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 1: together that it is better I didn't make the top

702
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 1: in the country. They're not Tennessee. Why who can you get?

703
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 1: Who can you get? Who can you get? I think

704
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 1: you can go get out and go out and get

705
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 1: my Gundy If you pay him eight point four million dollars,

706
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 1: which is the number that they're pointing out. You can't

707
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 1: pickings could find that money in the ash tray of

708
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 1: his he may have may have that trickling in a bubble.

709
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 1: But it's not like it's not like, it's not like

710
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 1: Tennessee is. It doesn't have the money either. They all

711
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 1: have money. It just comes down and whether or not

712
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 1: it's a good job. I know, I agree with that,

713
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 1: and I think Tennessee is a better, better job than

714
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 1: Oklahoma State. I would agree. I would agree that that's

715
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 1: but it's his alma mater number one, and they have

716
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 1: an unbelievable amount of cash they do. And I think

717
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 1: there is a factor here of some people saying the

718
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 1: folks are crazy down there, and I don't want I

719
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 1: agree with that too. But if I don't want you,

720
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 1: if you don't want to jump into that, I don't.

721
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 1: I don't it. If you're gonna be run off by

722
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 1: a bunch of bunch of Twitter crazies and people painting

723
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 1: the rock, I don't want you in the sec Well,

724
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 1: here's the thing. The fact that a significant portion of

725
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 1: your alumni and fan base buys the John Gruden thing.

726
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 1: Every time your job comes open. There's a major red

727
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 1: flag to me, because the rest of the country cracks

728
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 1: up laughing at this. They're following for this again. They

729
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 1: bought it. They bought it. But that wasn't the reason.

730
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 1: I want to be very clear about this. That was

731
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 1: not the reason why everybody rose up over Greciano. Absolutely not.

732
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 1: If you go up and hire you because he's he's

733
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 1: from up north. No, like most of these guys that

734
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 1: I just listened off are from up north. It doesn't matter.

735
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 1: Now I've got him, now I've got him fired up. No,

736
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 1: that's I mean, I don't care if the coaches from Mars.

737
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 1: I don't care if he's coming from that north. Let

738
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 1: me let me encourage you. Okay, I've been trying to

739
00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 1: put bears, but I want to be I want to

740
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 1: be a good friend and I want to encourage you.

741
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 1: And this is this is why I'm gonna leave you with.

742
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 1: And we can end it on this on the Tennessee subject.

743
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 1: I guarantee you you can write it in ink. You

744
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 1: guys will have a better SEC record next year than

745
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 1: you did this year. Oh that's a fact. I mean,

746
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 1: there's never been a worst record Tennessee. I know in

747
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 1: the history, that's the worst year in the history of

748
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 1: Tennessee football outside of nineteen o nine, I think when

749
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 1: there only one was against Transylvania. Take that year out.

750
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 1: This was the worst year in Tennessee. Chip Kelly, do

751
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 1: U c l A, Bucky, you like it? I love

752
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 1: Chip Kelly going to l A. And the reason I

753
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 1: like you going to u c l A is because

754
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 1: I think he's a better play at U c l

755
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 1: adn Florida. I thought at Florida he would have the

756
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 1: athletes available, but I think when you look at the

757
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 1: way Chip Kelly enjoys or kind of lives his life,

758
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 1: he's kind of the king. And you have an opportunity

759
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 1: to go and continue to put uma and he will

760
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 1: get an opportunity to you know, he has a young

761
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,080
Speaker 1: quarterback coming in that can run his system. We so

762
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 1: I'm doing with quarterbacks of lesser talent. I think the

763
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 1: main thing for U c l A. Can they find

764
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:10,240
Speaker 1: skill guys? That has been that's been their biggest weakness.

765
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 1: They've had a quarterback the last couple of years, but

766
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:15,840
Speaker 1: they haven't had blue chip skill guys. Can Chip Kelly

767
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 1: attracts some skill guys to play on this. Yeah. The

768
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 1: interesting thing that wash we really look at those teams

769
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:26,359
Speaker 1: and there's some more defensive guys that had success coming

770
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:29,399
Speaker 1: out of Oregon that really often Michael James undersigned didn't

771
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 1: really work out Dad. You know, he's he's a good

772
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:37,440
Speaker 1: special teams, but um, but who is the great receivers

773
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:38,840
Speaker 1: that have come out of Oregon? They have it. The

774
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:42,399
Speaker 1: other thing will be we're kind of hanging our head

775
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:46,360
Speaker 1: on the old Oregon that we have. How is Chip?

776
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 1: How will he come back and be one step he

777
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 1: had of the positible because everyone is kind of caught

778
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 1: up to the way Oregon played up there when he

779
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 1: was there. What is his next iteration? How does he evolve?

780
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 1: What will be the thing that he unveils that is

781
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:00,919
Speaker 1: different than people in the pact? Will? I haven't seen

782
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 1: so I mentioned this. I actould go find the tweet

783
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 1: because I'm pretty sure I tweeted it out earlier this year.

784
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 1: I did a New Mexico game. They played in New

785
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,799
Speaker 1: Mexico to Mexico State, and if you've watched New Mexico play,

786
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 1: we've talked about it. Bob Davy is in the gun

787
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:13,759
Speaker 1: but running the triple option from the gun. It's a

788
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 1: fascinating offense. Fascine led the country and rushing a couple

789
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 1: of years ago. It is very creative. It Just imagine

790
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,720
Speaker 1: Navy in the shotgun. That's what you see with Bob

791
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 1: Davey did down there. Now, it hasn't been as good

792
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 1: year for the this year, but creative stuff. When I

793
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 1: was talking with him in the lead up for that game,

794
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 1: they said chip Kelly had spent some time. They're studying this.

795
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:35,239
Speaker 1: Chip Kelly has been going around. So I think some

796
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:39,359
Speaker 1: people saying everybody caught up to chip Kelly and now

797
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 1: that's not gonna work anymore. I think chip Kelly, especially

798
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 1: having a year to sit around and study, chip Kelly's

799
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 1: got a whole new bag of tricks. I think he's

800
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,919
Speaker 1: getting ready to unload on people. They're gonna score points.

801
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 1: I don't have any question about it my mind. They're

802
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:53,359
Speaker 1: gonna score points. Then you write defensive coordinator. They need

803
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 1: to find, like you said, get some some skill players,

804
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 1: but they're gonna score points coming out the gate. To me,

805
00:35:57,719 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 1: it comes down to defensive coordinator and can they get

806
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 1: some de reensive lineman because that's what they're gonna need

807
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:05,439
Speaker 1: at Oregon. They got one right now. Yeah, if Danny

808
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 1: Phillips is a stud, but they need to go get

809
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 1: some more that if they're gonna be at at a

810
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 1: very very high level. I mean, that's the higher that

811
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,879
Speaker 1: I'm waiting on. I'm waiting to see who becomes who

812
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 1: comes with him as a decordinator, because whoever comes as

813
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 1: a decordinator will have the toughest job because you have

814
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:23,880
Speaker 1: to build a defense that can complement an offense that

815
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:27,399
Speaker 1: is going to operate at warp speed. He has no

816
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 1: desire to slow the pace down, so you have to

817
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 1: figure out a way to play a renal ball defense

818
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 1: to get enough stops to give him the ball back

819
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:37,840
Speaker 1: more than opposition. You're gonna be surprised if if Jimbo

820
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 1: Fisher leaves and goes to A and M. Buck I

821
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 1: would say this year would be the year for him

822
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 1: to go, and only because he appeared to kind of

823
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 1: grow weary of the fan base and the expectations and

824
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 1: the things that were kind of directed at him. I

825
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 1: can see it. I don't know if A and M

826
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:59,959
Speaker 1: is a better job then Florida State, but I can't

827
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 1: see him wanting to get away from the Florida State

828
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:04,839
Speaker 1: thing after kind of dealing with it. Also, he had

829
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 1: to live in Bobby Bolt and Shadow for a while.

830
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 1: Maybe he wants to create his own legacy. Got a

831
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 1: chance to look. If he can go to to A

832
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:14,240
Speaker 1: and M and just win it once, they'll build a statue.

833
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 1: Holy moly, yes, they'll build a statue. Everybody wants to

834
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 1: be at a statue program. You gotta deal with. You

835
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 1: gotta deal with saving a couple of times a year

836
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:24,839
Speaker 1: though in that sec West, Yep. If my gunny wins

837
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,279
Speaker 1: at all, they'll build a statue there. You go, hey

838
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 1: Man State app State And do you know how hard

839
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 1: it is to leave your alma mater. You're gonna leave

840
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:39,400
Speaker 1: your alma mater to go to another school just for

841
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,839
Speaker 1: some cash? I don't know, I don't know. I think

842
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 1: he's have we ever seen someone he's been in he's

843
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 1: been in the top five, Yeah, but have we ever

844
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 1: seen anyone leave they're gonna to go to another school?

845
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 1: Has that ever been done? That's definitely been done. I

846
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 1: just surely. I just think I just, I mean, had

847
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:02,360
Speaker 1: a higher at a high I love, like I just

848
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 1: never seen it. Um, you know, app State in Tennessee

849
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 1: have two things in common. How many SEC wins? That's

850
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 1: one of them. Yeah, and we both lost Neil Butters

851
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 1: to or No, sorry we don't have that. You beat

852
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Speaker 1: you Massa almost lost to U. Mass We actually did

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Speaker 1: lose to U mass You beat him seventeen to thirteen.

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Speaker 1: That was a big one. Anyways, Hey, I'm sure you

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Speaker 1: guys will be up there in the top recruiting rankings

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Speaker 1: like you are every year and every year bounce back.

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Speaker 1: Yeah right, four straight top fifteen class. How many does

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Speaker 1: that stadium hold? Hundred four or four four? Five hundred

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Speaker 1: four four or five five? Yep, a lot more than

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Speaker 1: T Boon picking stadium. But the thing is T Boon

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Speaker 1: can fill that thing with cash. Just give it to

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Speaker 1: that staff. I'll tell you what, Buck, I can't wait.

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Speaker 1: I'm excited to see who the who who the Tennessee

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Speaker 1: fans hires or here we come. So when they signed

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Speaker 1: the check to the fans actually have to sign it

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Speaker 1: like they sign off on that Packers. Yeah, they are

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Speaker 1: like a publicly owned more more more in the Packers.

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Speaker 1: At this point, it was fun. So I love pushing

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Speaker 1: your buttons. I know you do. It's good to have

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Speaker 1: you back. Great to be back boys. We missed you, Buddy. Um.

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Speaker 1: I won't go over all of the picks from this

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Speaker 1: last week, just suffice it to say it's a nice

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Speaker 1: week for me. First first eleven and o season. Full season.

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Speaker 1: That's when Bucky makes this run. All right, Let's get

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Speaker 1: out of here. That was Jam Pact show. That was

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Speaker 1: a lot of fun. I hope you guys enjoyed listening

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Speaker 1: to it as much as I did poking Sully's buttons there.

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Speaker 1: Let's get out of here, Bucky, I gotta get out

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Speaker 1: of the traffic is gonna be bad. We gotta run,

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Speaker 1: all right. That's gonna do it for us. Move to six,

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Speaker 1: d J. Bucky Sully back in the saddle. We'll see

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Speaker 1: you next night. Thanks for downloading Moved the Sticks with

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