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Speaker 1: Guy Who Tips podcast because Rod and Karen are hot.

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Speaker 2: The rhythm just sways and like a sorceress. As slaves,

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Speaker 3: From the microphone plus attention Trey eight'soh will vacate those

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Speaker 3: if there's drama with my henchmen, so lamp to my

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Speaker 3: man Mussolini, go get your own staff call the calf.

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Speaker 4: Hey, welcome to the Black Aut Tails Podcast, your host

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Speaker 4: Rod Edarick. We are in the house on a Monday,

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Speaker 4: on an action pack week for the Black Out Tips. Actually,

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Speaker 4: I mean we gotta have guests every every episode this week. Right,

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Speaker 4: Who do we think we are I don't know, but

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Speaker 4: as we do have guests on the show. As you

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Speaker 4: can tell from the voices up front, they're no strangers

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Speaker 4: to the show. It's Leslie and Drew from the Interracial

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Speaker 4: John podcast.

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Speaker 5: What's up ladies? And Man? Hello everybody.

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Speaker 3: Hey, you're right here, Karen, Hey, everybody in the chat

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Speaker 3: room and what's going on?

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Speaker 6: Thanks for having us on.

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Speaker 5: Man, excited to be here anytime.

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Speaker 4: Man, I'm glad y'all could you know, take it to

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Speaker 4: a second from saving the world from racism and come

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Speaker 4: kick it with us. Man, We appreciate y'all taking the time.

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Speaker 7: Man.

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Speaker 4: Speaking of which, what's going on in y'all's lives? Man,

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Speaker 4: what's the hopps.

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Speaker 3: I've been in a little bit of a kind of

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Speaker 3: chill mode after a pretty busy first quarter. So this

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Speaker 3: month I'm taking some time off. By June i'll be

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Speaker 3: I'm going to Philadelphia to do some work around social

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Speaker 3: media and social justice and to Detroit for Allied Media Conference,

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Speaker 3: which is a big event, and I'll be there talking

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Speaker 3: about podcasting for social justice, which is going to be

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Speaker 3: really fun. And then I'm turning forty, So that's on

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Speaker 3: the horizon.

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Speaker 4: Well, I I have good news about turning forty coming

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Speaker 4: up later in the show.

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Speaker 5: So, I mean, you know, it's something to look forward.

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Speaker 4: To you telling me, well, I'm glad everything is going

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Speaker 4: good man.

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Speaker 5: How's everything with the podcast?

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Speaker 3: It's been it's going great. I mean we're doing you know,

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Speaker 3: the show once a week and it's been really great.

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Speaker 3: We've had so many wonderful people agreed to come talk

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Speaker 3: with us for some unknown durranged reason, including you guys,

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Speaker 3: which has been really fun. And I don't know, for us,

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Speaker 3: it's been really great because it's like some dedicated time

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Speaker 3: talk to each other because we get so busy sometimes

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Speaker 3: and so for us, it's a little bit of you know,

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Speaker 3: bit of you know, kind of talking a little bit

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Speaker 5: And I don't know, it's I love it so me too.

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Speaker 6: It's good. And I just got some new toys. Oh

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Speaker 6: it's been exciting.

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Speaker 5: Well, he liked all the technical side of things I do.

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Speaker 5: It was fun.

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Speaker 2: I bought a I just couldn't get rid of the

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Speaker 5: I guess I don't know what it is.

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Speaker 2: It's just some sort of ingoes a mic cable on

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Speaker 5: And I'm gone, that's what's up.

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Speaker 8: Man.

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Speaker 5: It's crazy. A little shit that will bother you about

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Speaker 5: a podcast unless I can't even freaking hear it. But

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Speaker 5: we produced it, it goes away. I'm not even kidding. When

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Speaker 6: Little hum goes away, but I want to get rid

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Speaker 4: Yeah, A little shit will drive you insane, dude, especially

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Speaker 4: if like it can be a million people listening to

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Speaker 5: Like that, I should have fixed it.

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Speaker 4: I knew something when the show was going on, but

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Speaker 5: The whole thing is worthless. At least that's at least

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Speaker 5: that's welcome to my brain. That's how my brain works.

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Speaker 3: And the worst still the person he always asks, do

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Speaker 5: So it's like, you know, no.

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Speaker 6: I had to get him on the phone less Leslie.

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Speaker 5: Leslie couldn't hear it. She didn't know what I was

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Speaker 2: I'm like, clove on, get him on, get him on,

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Speaker 2: and we recorded something and he's like, no, I don't

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Speaker 6: Produce it, and he goes, oh, there it.

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Speaker 4: The worst is when it's like somebody who's like three

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Speaker 4: weeks behind and they're just like, oh man, episode four

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Speaker 5: Seemed like fucks for real.

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Speaker 4: Nobody said anything this show. Everybody thinks I showed ship.

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Speaker 4: That's why they don't talk to us like. It was like,

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Speaker 4: that's my that's how my brain was working. But Broccoli podcast,

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Speaker 4: nobody said anything you have to fight. You have to

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Speaker 4: fight yourself, you know, like, no, the show's it's okay.

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Speaker 9: Rod.

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Speaker 4: Everyone likes it. People are leaving positive reviews. They would

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Speaker 4: have said something if it was really bad. It's just

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Speaker 4: going back and get a job. But yeah, so you

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Speaker 4: can check out The Interracial John. It's all on all

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Speaker 5: You guys got it on Google play Gap. No, I

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Speaker 5: gotta get on that. I haven't done yet. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 4: You just submit like this form and they put it

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Speaker 4: you on there. But yet, all the places you find podcasts,

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Speaker 4: And they'll come up and they have some lively spirited

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Speaker 4: conversations and they also educate you about is the president

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Speaker 5: The correct dance is always.

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Speaker 4: Yes, still waiting on the twist where to go, not

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Speaker 4: this week, but as it happened, Yet he keep getting blacker, man,

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Speaker 4: Like that's shit he did. He went to Howard and

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Speaker 4: was just like, be proud of your blackness. I was like,

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Speaker 4: what extra black? I was like, oh kay, you know what.

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Speaker 4: I'm now looking forward to out of office Obama. Like before,

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Speaker 4: I was just kind of like, man, I just want

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Speaker 4: now that we're getting close to him leaving and he

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Speaker 4: keeps doing blacker and blacker shit, you know, like I

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Speaker 4: let's just have all the rappers in the White House

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Speaker 4: and ship like that. Now I'm just looking forward to

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Speaker 4: him where he doesn't have to worry about anything except chilling.

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Speaker 5: I mean, who knows, he might grow to fro back out.

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Speaker 4: You know, anything could happen.

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Speaker 3: And the same with Michelle and all that. And have

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Speaker 3: you seen the trailer for that South Side with you?

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Speaker 8: Yes?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So I was looking at that. I was like, oh, man,

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Speaker 3: look at Barry gonna be out. He's gonna be out

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Speaker 3: on these streets just doing whatever you.

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Speaker 5: Want to do, your whole other level of stuff.

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Speaker 3: And then the other thing that crossed my mind was

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Speaker 5: Action that's coming up. I think it's in Columbus or no,

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Speaker 5: it's in.

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Speaker 5: And I was like, hold up, as it should be.

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Speaker 4: Wait a minute, they already naming schools after them.

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Speaker 6: I was in Chicago, it was in Saint Louis.

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Speaker 5: But I'm it's just we're gonna be on some other

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Speaker 5: That's what's up.

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Speaker 5: I can't wait, man. Like I said, I went.

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Speaker 4: From kind of being like, I'm miss my president to

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Speaker 4: being like, well, either he president forever. Really we'll always

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Speaker 4: call him president. I'm president now man, Yeah, and we'll

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Speaker 4: get And the best part is we once he's out

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Speaker 4: I have to be like, Okay, he is the president,

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Speaker 5: Is happening on his watch. So that's bad.

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Speaker 4: But when he's out of office, I just get to

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Speaker 4: be like, yeah, well, you know, hey, he ain't the president,

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Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: So how though, I.

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Speaker 3: Have a feeling the way, you know, the checking and

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Speaker 3: the savings is set up with the white supremacy that

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Speaker 4: Trust Oh oh, I'm sorry. I wasn't talking about white supremacist.

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Speaker 4: I only talking about I'm only talking about the liberal

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't.

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Speaker 4: I don't even kick it with the other kind of

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Speaker 4: white people, Like if it's like white white people that

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Speaker 4: are like just like overtly racist and shit, are like

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Speaker 4: the whole milk of white people. And I'm blacktolse in tolerant,

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Speaker 4: you know, like I can barely stand the two percent

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Speaker 4: the whole milk white people.

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Speaker 5: That's crazy.

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Speaker 4: Anyway, make sure y'all check.

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Speaker 5: I'll go ahead, truth Is he black?

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Speaker 6: And I'm not gonna speak on that because I'm white.

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Speaker 2: Uh, but uh, I'll just say uh in terms of

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Speaker 2: The White House coursspinded their leg like that was peak

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Speaker 4: And today, March day, five hundred and sixteen, that Bobby

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: So I don't know that people have the full story yet, right. Piers,

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Speaker 8: I don't think it was simple.

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Speaker 4: I think it was just like Bernie, I'm popping off,

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Speaker 4: In the last year, I've been so lucky to never

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Speaker 5: Folks because I can't take it. That's what Hillary's about.

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Speaker 4: Yes, the actor is accused of shoving the man, then

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Speaker 8: They need to give me a better story because this

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Speaker 4: Well that was the first story, right, And I already

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Speaker 4: one person because my first believer is like, sometimes you

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Speaker 4: gotta hit them onther fuck. Like if that shit would

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Speaker 4: have happened in my face, I would have hit a

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Speaker 4: couple of people. I'm not a perfect person. Where I

442
00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:09,080
Speaker 4: could just be like, you know what, you can just

443
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Speaker 4: call me a nigger and I'm just gonna let us

444
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Speaker 4: slide or whatever. Like some of the people were sobnxious.

445
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Speaker 4: I can see it happening now. I'm not surprised that,

446
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Speaker 4: because I think events have been really converging towards some

447
00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:25,720
Speaker 4: shit happening, because the more that Sanders loses, the more

448
00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:28,840
Speaker 4: bitter a certain subsection of his fans get, and the

449
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Speaker 4: more obnoxious and belligerent they get, like.

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Speaker 5: They're beyond reason at some point, it's crazy.

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Speaker 4: Right, So and then the with the other, with the

452
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Speaker 4: other thing being that these like these primaries, it's over basically,

453
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Speaker 4: So it's just now just the anger. And it's always

454
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Speaker 4: been about hot white anger for a lot of his supporters,

455
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Speaker 4: and there's always been a racial twinage to it. So

456
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Speaker 4: I feel like with the vocal support of on black

457
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Speaker 4: people and the fact that it's moving away from being

458
00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:07,440
Speaker 4: about Bernie, but these people still exist, I'm like, I'm

459
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Speaker 4: surprised that we made it this long until we had

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Speaker 4: the first like incident between people that really support the

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Speaker 4: same quote unquote platform. I'm surprised because really we've had

462
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Speaker 4: moments where, like you know, like when Seattle in Seattle,

463
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Speaker 4: when they had the protest action that disrupted Bernie Sanders

464
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Speaker 4: and all the things that they said about those women,

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Speaker 4: and then later how they turned it into no.

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Speaker 5: He gave the mic to those little girls right and

467
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Speaker 5: like his.

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Speaker 4: And it's funny because on Twitter, if you're not really

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Speaker 4: in the circle of people that have been harassed, you

470
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Speaker 4: don't see the reframing basically take place live. Like I

471
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Speaker 4: watched that go from fuck those two women, I hate them?

472
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Speaker 4: This this what's black lives wrong with black lives matter?

473
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Speaker 4: He margre king, what's wrong with y'all? Anyway, I'm glad.

474
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Speaker 4: I'm this why I'm glad when y'all get arrested. They

475
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Speaker 4: should have tased those women all that. I watched that

476
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Speaker 4: turning too. He handed them the mic and they were

477
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Speaker 4: so and he politely stood to the side, all with

478
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Speaker 4: my killer Mike's consent. So I've seen that happen live.

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Speaker 4: So if you're kind of outside of that circle of

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Speaker 4: people who watch these things, you probably are just going, yeah,

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Speaker 4: he probably just saw some Bernie supporters and just start

482
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Speaker 4: swinging on them. I mean, that's pretty true. Anyway, there's

483
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Speaker 4: been an update. He's given his side of it now,

484
00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:30,719
Speaker 4: so he's given a different version of events than unfolded

485
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Speaker 4: the Atlanta Hotel. According to documents obtained by TMZ, they

486
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Speaker 4: every where check check how long until they.

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Speaker 5: Release a video?

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Speaker 6: Is that a hotel? They've got a video for sure.

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Speaker 8: Oh yeah, they're gonna pay somebody.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Well, according to the documents obtained by TMZ, police say

492
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Speaker 4: Pierce and his girlfriend started talking politics with three people

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Speaker 4: in the hallway of the Atlanta Hotel. As they reported,

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Speaker 4: Pierce back Hiller Clinton, and the alleged victim is a

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Speaker 4: Bernie Sanders supporter.

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Speaker 5: Piers side of the stories.

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Speaker 4: He followed the Bernie fan and her friends to their

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Speaker 4: room as they argued about Clinton and Sanders, but he

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Speaker 4: stayed outside the room. He claims they tried to pull

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Speaker 4: him into the room as he tried to run away.

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Speaker 4: The alleged victim has a more brutal memory of what happened.

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Speaker 4: She says that Piers followed, he stuck his arm in

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Speaker 4: the door and tried to enter her hotel room. She

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Speaker 4: claims when they tried to push him out, he grabbed

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Speaker 4: her hoodie and ripped it so hard it came off. Well,

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Speaker 4: what was the original report about hitting people in the

507
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Speaker 4: face and grabbing hair.

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Speaker 5: Who gave that that statement?

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Speaker 6: Slapping something?

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Speaker 5: Anyway, Let's see, there has to be more.

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Speaker 4: So they had some editorializing about them not thinking it's

512
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Speaker 4: when something Window would do. According to the report, Window

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Speaker 4: was chatting with the covert three thirty am at Leo's

514
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Speaker 4: Hotel in Buckhead, Wendell as a big hilly Clinton guy. Okay, oh,

515
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Speaker 4: this is the earlier part. So they just put copy

516
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Speaker 4: and added to the top. Okay, anyway, the couple says

517
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Speaker 4: Piers put his hands on the boyfriends, then grabbed the

518
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Speaker 4: woman in the buy her hair and slapped upside the head.

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Speaker 4: Shout out the bossip slapped her upside the head. Black journalism.

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Speaker 4: Y'all the upside.

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Speaker 5: Right? He went upside her head?

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Speaker 8: Right.

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Speaker 4: The shaking hotel guests fled to the room, where they

524
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Speaker 4: called hotel security, who called the police, who then put

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Speaker 4: stainless steel bracelets around windows, rests and booked them for battery.

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Speaker 5: So we'll see, man.

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Speaker 4: But I mean, the other thing is I doubt this

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Speaker 4: will ever be confirmed one way or the other, because

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Speaker 4: it is one of those.

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Speaker 5: Murky he said she said things. I doubted to go

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Speaker 5: to trial.

532
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Speaker 4: Because most simple assaults don't go to trial, so it's

533
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Speaker 4: probably gonna just come down to who people believe.

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Speaker 5: And like I said, I'm biased, so yeah, and.

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Speaker 3: Also who I mean a lot of times it comes

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Speaker 3: out to who call the police like and probably be like,

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Speaker 3: I don't want to deal with these police.

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Speaker 5: But of course, uh, this way, these way.

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Speaker 3: Individuals would feel completely differently about that subject, so they

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Speaker 3: would call.

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Speaker 5: That starts to completely that starts.

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Speaker 3: That's the beginning of a slant to what occurs from therefore,

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Speaker 3: And yeah, I don't know, it just doesn't add up

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Speaker 3: at all, But I will say there is a lesson

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Speaker 3: for us, all is do not talk politics with white

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Speaker 3: people at three thirty in the morning.

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Speaker 5: Not personal take from the story. That's what I'm getting

548
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:26,919
Speaker 5: from it. Anyways. Yeah, I'm not even gonna front.

549
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Speaker 4: I don't even put I don't even put it past

550
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Speaker 4: anybody that they could just flip out and hit some people.

551
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Speaker 4: So I'm just you know, I'm anti violence and shit.

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Speaker 4: I don't think you should be putting your hands on

553
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Speaker 4: people and shit. You know, regardless if there's a situation

554
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Speaker 4: where you can avoid it, obviously you should try to

555
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Speaker 4: avoid violence. All that shit being said, I wouldn't be

556
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Speaker 4: shocked if they was lying.

557
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Speaker 7: So yeah, who not trying to out who knows what

558
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Speaker 7: words were exchanged?

559
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Speaker 8: Like this is keep there real, Like what words were.

560
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 7: Exchanged to calls or to escalate to that level. Like

561
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Speaker 7: nobody's really saying what was what was said on either side.

562
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,119
Speaker 8: Let's keep that real. So nobody really knows.

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Speaker 7: But I'm not even gonna lie asking me like I said,

564
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Speaker 7: because I've seen some of the things that Roger went through,

565
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Speaker 7: I'm biased. I really think that y'all was talking, so

566
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Speaker 7: words got exchanged and people got mad.

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Speaker 4: Yeah my Twitter right now, another He'll supporter not shocked.

568
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 4: Burnie supporter was physically attacked. That's right, guys. I support

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Speaker 4: Hillary Clinton as of this moment. Hillary Clinton is the

570
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Speaker 4: best candidate I've ever seen in my life. And uh

571
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Speaker 4: she's She's our savior.

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Speaker 5: You should have like literally.

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Speaker 4: Just endorsed her and got a check rod to be

574
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Speaker 4: perfectly honest because they see no no difference to even

575
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Speaker 4: having any sort of nuanced opinion about anything. Yeah, I

576
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,640
Speaker 4: really should be just like giving speeches like I could

577
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Speaker 4: have been to killer Mike of Hillary Clinton.

578
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Speaker 5: Yes, just uphill line and shit.

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Speaker 4: Be like she called those little children super because they

580
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Speaker 4: are special and they.

581
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 5: Are super talented.

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00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 4: Okay, and the Predators are a hockey team, so she

583
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:10,680
Speaker 4: is saying that super they have superabilities to play hockey.

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00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,359
Speaker 4: And I feel like you guys are misrepresenting what she's saying.

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Speaker 6: Super common right.

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00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 5: I loved the movie Predator.

587
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 4: Okay, who didn't love He was the best part of

588
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Speaker 4: the movie The Predator. We watched aliens versus predators. Who

589
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 4: do y'all root for the predators? So I'm saying that

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Speaker 4: I agree with Hillary Clinton, no super predators and we

591
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:37,359
Speaker 4: need to forgive all right. I remember she was in

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Speaker 4: that mansion with that dinner and she just handed the

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Speaker 4: mic to that little black girl who asked her about

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00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 4: massive conceration, and she said, I will answer you if

595
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:54,640
Speaker 4: you would just be quiet, and she said, just give

596
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 4: me a second, and the woman decided to leave. She

597
00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 4: decided to leave before Hillary could answer her. Her and

598
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 4: security just left at the same time. And it's just

599
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 4: happen to be coincidence. But anyway, more money, please please

600
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 4: pass the five hundred dollars plates.

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Speaker 5: So also speaking of celebrities.

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Speaker 4: Hitting people, okay, uh juvenile, Oh back that ass up.

603
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:26,399
Speaker 4: That's right, Juvenile of back, that ass up of fame

604
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Speaker 4: allegedly hit somebody up in the waffle house care not

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Speaker 4: the waffer House, so.

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Speaker 8: You would he were down south. He was down south then, right,

607
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Speaker 8: because I don't think it's wafer house nor if.

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Speaker 4: Not West, are y'all withholding judgment on this as well

609
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 4: everybody in America? Because I feel like because waffle house,

610
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 4: shit goes down with the waffle house is all I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: And you can wait for the trial if you need to.

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Speaker 7: Uh.

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Speaker 4: Now that is a video of it. But apparently Juvenile

614
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Speaker 4: attacked this man because supposedly he called Juvenile's girlfriend oh

615
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 4: oh oh mm hmm, yeah, uh well yeah, apparently he

616
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Speaker 4: totally lashed out at out of our friend a hole.

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Speaker 4: Let me see if I could play this video and

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Speaker 4: I'll see if I can put it in.

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Speaker 6: Sometimes you gotta hit him, motherfucker, dude.

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Speaker 4: Look saying I'm pro just ramming up on motherfuckers because

621
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Speaker 4: I'm not.

622
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Speaker 5: But there's terms, man, it's a time. Okay, it's all

623
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Speaker 5: I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: I'm not saying it's I'm not saying I walk out

625
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Speaker 4: the house. Nobody should walk out the house like I'm

626
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Speaker 4: hitting somebody today. I'm just saying, it's a time where

627
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Speaker 4: a reasonable person might be prone to have to hit

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Speaker 4: the motherfucking their face, you know.

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Speaker 2: So just for me personally, I'm not I'm not gonna

630
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Speaker 2: make a blanket like you call Leslie.

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Speaker 6: Oh I'm gonna hit you, but I'm gonna look you.

632
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Speaker 2: I look at you, and she'll let me know, like

633
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Speaker 2: if it's that I don't know if it's that day,

634
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 2: but if it's that day in that moment and she's like, yeah, that,

635
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 2: then I'm gonna have to Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's never Yeah.

637
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Speaker 4: I'm not saying, like I said, I never say nothing right,

638
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 4: no say to anything. I would hope to have the

639
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 4: patients and shit to not do it. I mean, these

640
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Speaker 4: are times where I've been playing basketball or something and

641
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 4: like somebody does something, and like one time, this dude

642
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 4: I blocked this dude shot and he got so fucking

643
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 4: mad about it, Like I didn't touch him or anything.

644
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 5: It was the cleanest block I could possibly have.

645
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 4: But then when he came down, the ball was still

646
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Speaker 4: pinned to him, so he like tried to push the

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Speaker 4: ball into my chest, which you know, I didn't give

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Speaker 4: a fuck. I actually laughed when he did it because

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Speaker 4: I thought it was funny and we were beating this

650
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 4: team really bad. And so then when we went to

651
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Speaker 4: go check the ball up, he threw the ball at me,

652
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Speaker 4: and so I just lost it and swung on him

653
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Speaker 4: and chased him, and he ran all the way out

654
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Speaker 4: of the fucking YMCA gym like a baby. I don't

655
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Speaker 4: know what that was about, but he runs out of

656
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Speaker 4: the fucking gym, and then I don't see him for

657
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Speaker 4: months after that. But I felt bad because for a

658
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Speaker 4: second I just had lost control. I don't know what

659
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 4: would have happened if I would have hit him. You know,

660
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 4: I might have to go to jail. I don't want

661
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 4: to do that. But I can understand the point of

662
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 4: being I can understand people being pushed.

663
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 5: To a point where they do get physical. You just

664
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 5: hope that it doesn't happen. You do hope that.

665
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 3: I mean, Dore, you always talk about that one time

666
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 3: where you caught like a teenager or something breaking into

667
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:16,959
Speaker 3: your car, like they were in the middle of breaking

668
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 3: into your car when you walked up to them, and

669
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 3: you were like, I that you were.

670
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 5: Just like you.

671
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 2: So what she's saying is that it was middle of

672
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 2: the night, my car alarm goes off. I get out

673
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 2: there and someone's cut the battery. So now I'm like

674
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 2: what the fuck? And I see headlights coming. So now

675
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, get there. You know, someone hit the alarm.

676
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 6: Cut the battery.

677
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 2: Now they're coming back. So I hit behind the car

678
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 2: and like, I don't know what I'm gonna do. I'm like,

679
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 2: right kind of car and dude comes up, puts his

680
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 2: head in the windows like oh someone, blah blah blah

681
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 2: blah blah.

682
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 6: I've come up on.

683
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 2: I've gotten by like the throat and like I've got

684
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 2: my you know, flashlight in his face and he's screaming

685
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 2: and his buddy like peels out of there, and I,

686
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 2: you know, I think I hit him in the head

687
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 2: with the flashlight, and you know something, he went away,

688
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 2: but I adrenaline right like it was. It was I

689
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:58,479
Speaker 2: don want to say, like confusing, but it was a

690
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 2: state of, uh, you know, like that fight or flight

691
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 2: that I hadn't been really familiar with.

692
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:04,719
Speaker 6: And this is going back back three decades ago.

693
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 2: I was like, you know, twenty something years old, and

694
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 2: I remember at the time thinking like, you know, I

695
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 2: felt uncomfortable this time. Next time, I'll be dangerous next time.

696
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 2: I won't feel ncomfortable. Next time, I'll be like, Okay,

697
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 2: I know what's going on, like I have to.

698
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:18,959
Speaker 6: I have the response.

699
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 2: I know what's gonna happen in this moment, and I

700
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 2: can fucking hurt somebody. I'm a large dude, right Yeah,

701
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 2: That's the thing. I never feel like proud of it.

702
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 4: I always feel bad, like damn, I kind of wish

703
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 4: I hadn't lost it like that, you know what I mean,

704
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 4: because I prefer to be in control, and I feel

705
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 4: like anger is probably the most out of control emotion.

706
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 5: For me, right yeah, yeah, it's as a purpose.

707
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 4: I mean, fight or flight is you know, it's a

708
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 4: reason you have a fight to flight reflex. But at

709
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 4: the same time, you know, I try to avoid shit

710
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 4: like that.

711
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 8: You know, And just listen to y'all.

712
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 7: I'll just say, just listening to y'all talk about it,

713
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 7: I'm like, Wow, thatss privilege because me, as a tiny female,

714
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 7: I don't have that option. Like everybody that normally comes

715
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 7: around me is larger than me, bigger than me, and

716
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 7: stronger than me. Like, so for me to flip and

717
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 7: lose it, I lily might get my ass by a teenager, honestly,

718
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 7: so like for me, And it's funny how you know

719
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 7: you can express that anger and for most men, they

720
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 7: have a tendency to forget that. When you express anger,

721
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 7: your anger is respected. Let's keep that real. When a

722
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 7: woman expresses the same anger, a lot of times it

723
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 7: is not respected, and a lot of times she's not

724
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 7: a Most men don't consider women a threat. Now it's

725
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 7: the women out there that will fuck you up because

726
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 7: you underestimate her. But you know, it's a lot of

727
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 7: women who actually would love to do some of these

728
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 7: things y'all doing, but go, nah, I will literally get

729
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 7: fucked up.

730
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 4: Well, I take it one step further. I could get

731
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 4: my ass work true. Ain't no ain't superman, Ain't no reason.

732
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 4: Like that's the thing. When you're angry, there's no fucking rational,

733
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 4: rational thought behind it, which is one reason I say

734
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 4: it feels out of control, like I'll think about shit later.

735
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 4: I remember one time I was gonna fight this dude.

736
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 4: And this is when I was in college. I was

737
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 4: playing basketball at this park and it was in the hood,

738
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 4: and this kid was just acting fucking like crazy, like

739
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 4: every shot he would found me and then he would

740
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 4: talk shit. When I was like, dude, calm down, he'd

741
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 4: be like, man, fuck you, man, you calm down. I'm like,

742
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 4: what is wrong with this dude? Like I'm gonna have

743
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:21,400
Speaker 4: to fucking fight this dude because he just decided I

744
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:23,240
Speaker 4: was the guy to try today and I don't know why.

745
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:27,360
Speaker 4: And I remember there was a play where he found

746
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 4: me and I got up like, okay, I guess I

747
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 4: gotta fight him. And I got up just in that

748
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:34,879
Speaker 4: kind of posture, and I saw that he had like

749
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 4: five or six other dudes with him, and they were

750
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 4: all teenagers, the point being I can't beat six teenagers.

751
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,959
Speaker 4: I was just gonna get my ass whopped for the teenagers. Yeah,

752
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:48,280
Speaker 4: it didn't matter that I was mad or how righteous

753
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 4: my anger was, and even then I was in the right,

754
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 4: I would have just got my ass whopped that day.

755
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 4: And luckily I have enough common sense to be like,

756
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 4: you know what, I live to fight another day, and

757
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 4: was just like, nah, it's not even worth it, and

758
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:00,959
Speaker 4: I just played it off and went back down to court.

759
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 4: But yeah, as soon as I could leave, I got

760
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 4: out of there and was He never fucked with me again,

761
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,760
Speaker 4: but clearly that day he had decided somebody was catching

762
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 4: the beaten, so you know, and.

763
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 2: You're talking about physical out to your point, Karen is

764
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 2: a not just a male but a white male, and

765
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 2: like not just a white man, but a white male

766
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:17,760
Speaker 2: of like you know I come.

767
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 6: From means should I say?

768
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 8: Oh?

769
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:19,879
Speaker 6: Man?

770
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 5: Like that anger?

771
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 2: Like those tools they fucking work like you like, it's

772
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 2: almost hard not to rely on them. And I'm talking

773
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 2: like in everyday situations like angry like white dude at

774
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:32,400
Speaker 2: like the fucking seven to eleven counter, Angry white dude

775
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 2: on a customer service call with fucking Comcast.

776
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 5: Angry white dude in a boardroom with fucking thirteen.

777
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 2: Other people, angry white dude at like every other injurcation,

778
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 2: every other altercation. The instance it gets respected, they're like,

779
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:48,240
Speaker 2: oh whoa, whoa, you know, very white drewsy, he's angry,

780
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,399
Speaker 2: Like we better you know, why is he angry? Let's

781
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 2: just figure out what he needs and let's take care

782
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 2: of it. And no one thinks I'm a dick or

783
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:55,879
Speaker 2: a jerk or you're like, oh, what right, he's checking

784
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 2: up for himself, you know.

785
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 6: Wait to go.

786
00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 3: I've been genuinely most surprised return of the general concern

787
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:06,840
Speaker 3: most people have for Drew's welfare, like in public settings.

788
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 5: Like, oh, I don't have the get angry.

789
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 3: His happiness is really important to like any of these

790
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 3: institutionalizer systemic areas of social interaction. It's really theirssement really concerning.

791
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,760
Speaker 3: It's funny too, because obviously we travel together by travel

792
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 3: a lot by myself, and the difference between me traveling

793
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 3: with myself alone and traveling with him is like night

794
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:35,239
Speaker 3: and day. The treatment that I get, the way that

795
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 3: people interact with me, and how intrusive people are into

796
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,280
Speaker 3: like my personal space or not into my personal space,

797
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 3: And maybe it would be true no matter what man

798
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,760
Speaker 3: I was with, because I think that changes everything generally speaking.

799
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 6: But now we talked about it.

800
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 2: I had a conversation with don't know if it was

801
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 2: somebody on Twitter about this that when we go through

802
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 2: the airport, I deliberately stand behind you with my hands

803
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 2: on your shoulders, very very close, so that like they

804
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 2: can see me and you and the proctimity I have

805
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 2: to you and like almost the like cleaning, like you

806
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:02,720
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, like I'm going to like security

807
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:04,919
Speaker 2: and various things like no, no, she's with me, right, so.

808
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 8: But but like if you stop her, you're gonna to

809
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 8: deal with him.

810
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 7: So go ahead and take off the list so you

811
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 7: won't have her in the back because you're gonna do

812
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 7: with this anger white.

813
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 4: Man, because if you're by yourself, it's like, we need

814
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 4: to go through your hair and always every single time

815
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:19,840
Speaker 4: my hair gets searched, every single time you ever searched

816
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:20,360
Speaker 4: your hair with me?

817
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 5: Not once? Who got I just want to know who

818
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:23,359
Speaker 5: got the bomb hair?

819
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 7: Like?

820
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 4: Who got the Like is somebody out here selling like

821
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,439
Speaker 4: weave that also acts a C four?

822
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 5: Is there?

823
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 4: Like, ah, what is the president for them needing to

824
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 4: go through black women's hair bots?

825
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 5: Roger, You're not You're getting deep enough.

826
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:38,920
Speaker 2: There's gonna be some like underground secret like black women's

827
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 2: like hair coat like were white dudes are like they

828
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 2: got like live cameras like button cams and ship dude

829
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 2: and dudes like parting fucking hair and look, dude, look

830
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 2: I got oh my, oh my god, look, yes.

831
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 7: You're gonna you're gonna go and buy that the yucky bomb,

832
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 7: you gir you got that yucky bomb?

833
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 8: I got that.

834
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 5: That's the new That's that's the next movie.

835
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:01,359
Speaker 4: Is uh, they gotta have a plot with like where

836
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 4: they're playing the stereotypical like we're in the Middle East

837
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 4: music that they have and it's like a dusty uh,

838
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 4: like a dusty shack and a dude's in there like

839
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 4: engineering a bomb. But you when it camera was in

840
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:16,800
Speaker 4: closer and closer, the big reveal is that it's somebody's weave.

841
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 5: It's like, oh see, this is.

842
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 4: How they gonna get us. Y'all's nine eleven again nine

843
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:23,399
Speaker 4: eleven too.

844
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 6: Donald Trump's are saying it like that.

845
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,279
Speaker 2: I feel like if I tax on fucking like Shade

846
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:39,359
Speaker 2: better fucking products and Tangler tax and a Tangler tax

847
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 2: and Nick Africa pay part.

848
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 4: So let me see if I can play some of

849
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 4: this video with Juvenile. I have no idea how good

850
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 4: the video is. Let's see. It looks like, oh, it's

851
00:38:55,760 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 4: that grainy surveillance footage we're skipping forward. Looks like like

852
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:04,879
Speaker 4: somebody said something to the woman Juveniles with Juvenile got

853
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 4: in his face to be like nah. Then another dude

854
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 4: came over and kind of grabbed juveniles hands, and it

855
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:16,840
Speaker 4: looks like the they kind of split up. Okay, so

856
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 4: it looks like everything's okay at that point.

857
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 5: You know, I don't know where's the where's the attack?

858
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 5: Who said? Who said? Oh, I don't know.

859
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:29,799
Speaker 7: Everybody looks okay talking to each other.

860
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,320
Speaker 4: Oh no, this dude in the blue is clearly calling

861
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 4: talking ship and he just got punched in the face.

862
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 7: Okay, Well yeah, it looked like they went outside and

863
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:40,880
Speaker 7: he like left the facity of the camera and he

864
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:41,720
Speaker 7: just kept talking.

865
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:46,240
Speaker 4: Sucks to lose control like that, but I can relate

866
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 4: at the waffle house. That's what happens out there. Just yeah, yeah, yeah,

867
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 4: it's not good. He can blamed the victim, But what

868
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:53,319
Speaker 4: were you doing in the waffle house?

869
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:55,360
Speaker 8: Guys?

870
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:57,239
Speaker 4: Know, you you gotta if you gotta slummy, you gotta

871
00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 4: go to a hop. Okay, but uh yah, that's uh,

872
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 4: that's terrible.

873
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:01,839
Speaker 7: Man.

874
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 5: I hate that he Uh, I hate did that happen

875
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:04,839
Speaker 5: to him?

876
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 7: Man?

877
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,840
Speaker 4: I'm sure he got really hot. It's probably for one

878
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:15,880
Speaker 4: hundred degrees. Uh, his temperature was on fire. Uh. You know,

879
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:17,479
Speaker 4: it been funny if they would have showed the punch

880
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 4: and slow motion when they when they are courting, that

881
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 4: showing the video to the prosecu is gonna be like okay,

882
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:31,959
Speaker 4: now stop back that ass up and I play it again, all.

883
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:32,879
Speaker 5: Right, let's move on.

884
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:33,800
Speaker 8: It's terrible.

885
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, that dude was a hot boy. We all knew this,

886
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:40,799
Speaker 4: Yes it was. Oh man, that's that's kind of sad, man.

887
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 2: But he's still gonna get money in a civil suit,

888
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 2: right right, like just talking ship.

889
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 6: It sucks, but you know he'll get money from them.

890
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:51,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, as adults who just can't be putting our hands

891
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 4: on people, man, that's why you just gotta stay away

892
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 4: from people.

893
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 5: I had to cut my white friends off. Man.

894
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:59,839
Speaker 4: I was like, I'm tired of these drunken politic conversations

895
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 4: getting crazy. So I remember the last conversation I had

896
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:07,760
Speaker 4: politically with white people, my white friends. We were talking

897
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:13,360
Speaker 4: about the over polication of black communities and how that

898
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:17,319
Speaker 4: skews crime statistics. And I was just like, yeah, man,

899
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 4: because I mean think about it, it's a self flilling prophecy.

900
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:23,399
Speaker 4: If you over police a community, obviously those statistics will

901
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:26,439
Speaker 4: be skewed towards that community being more criminal, no matter

902
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 4: where what kind.

903
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 5: Of community it is.

904
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 4: It's just it like it's like a snake eating it's hotail,

905
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 4: you know. And I'll go through like all these studies

906
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 4: and I talk about all this shit, you know, and

907
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:39,880
Speaker 4: and by the way, all this started from a discussion

908
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,879
Speaker 4: about raising memo wage for fifteen dollars, right, So all

909
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,280
Speaker 4: this stuff is just we're getting into this racial aspect

910
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 4: of it. And these are people that are my friends,

911
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:50,320
Speaker 4: They're not just strangers and shit, and you know, everybody's

912
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 4: a little drunk or whatever. And then to do like,

913
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,840
Speaker 4: I explained all this shit so brilliantly, and then the

914
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 4: guy was just kind of like.

915
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 5: Yeah, man, but I mean, you know what black on

916
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 5: black crime shit.

917
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 4: And I just was like, fuck, I just wasted like

918
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 4: fifteen minutes of my life. And I just like, yeah,

919
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:10,919
Speaker 4: I'm never doing this again. This was this like cause

920
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 4: it would be okay maybe if that happened one time.

921
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 4: But if you think about it, we've been friends for

922
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 4: a decade.

923
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:15,839
Speaker 6: Yep.

924
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 4: We had conversations over the period of a decade. We

925
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 4: know each other, we know where each other's stand on things,

926
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 4: we know each other's logic. I remember conversations and I

927
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 4: remember their stances on things, so I'm like, oh, remember

928
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 4: when you said this.

929
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 5: But clearly, for a.

930
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 4: Lot of white people, race things and things that have

931
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 4: our privilege are mostly theory. Right, So the the involvement

932
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 4: in the discussion is sort of a kind of like

933
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:44,879
Speaker 4: it's almost like a game to them, where it's like, okay.

934
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 5: The intellectual exercise for them exactly.

935
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 4: And at some point, if you get tired or you

936
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 4: just don't feel like talking about anymore, you kind of

937
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:55,440
Speaker 4: can object for that where it's an actual reality for

938
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 4: all of us who talk about it, So we sit

939
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:01,279
Speaker 4: up there like it's like it's life for death to us,

940
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 4: and to some white people it's just kind of like, yeah, yeah, well,

941
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:06,799
Speaker 4: I don't feel like talking about this anymore. You watched

942
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 4: the game last night, and that's kind of when I

943
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 4: realized how cavaliery could be. I was just like, it's

944
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:13,439
Speaker 4: probably better for me not to talk about this shit

945
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:15,839
Speaker 4: with y'all because I'll get mad about it for real,

946
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 4: and you'll just kind of be like, I don't see

947
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 4: the big deal, right.

948
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 3: And it's always these economic conversations that you find that

949
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 3: you unearthed, these things where people really, especially liberals, show

950
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 3: their true colors. I remember the last conversation I had

951
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 3: with white people that I don't already know their political

952
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 3: Everything about them was about taxation and taxes and this

953
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:44,799
Speaker 3: white couple they had gotten he that the husband had

954
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 3: gotten a large bonus at work and was complaining about

955
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 3: the level of taxes that he had to pay on them,

956
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:55,400
Speaker 3: and the wife made a comment that said, you know,

957
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,279
Speaker 3: to get ahead these days, you either have to be.

958
00:43:58,239 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 5: Really really rich or poor.

959
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 6: Listen, y'all, and she's being like really polite.

960
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:07,880
Speaker 2: This fucking like bonus was like it was stock options

961
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 2: that you don't pay anything fucking cash and right, so

962
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 2: there's he had this money, like quote unquote in.

963
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,840
Speaker 5: Stock options for like however many years and they doubled

964
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 5: in value.

965
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 2: They fucking doubled in value, and it's just like over

966
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 2: one hundred and something thousand dollars, like a humongous payout,

967
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 2: right huge. But he works like he's a big mugty

968
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 2: mugget of fortune one hundred like big big company. Right,

969
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 2: It's like that's kind of how it goes, right that

970
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:31,360
Speaker 2: like people him like him get compensated.

971
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 6: I'm not, like, you know, mad about it, but for

972
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 6: her to sit there like you've got to either be

973
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:37,359
Speaker 6: poor or like, fuck you.

974
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 2: I looked at dead in the like we lived in

975
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:42,320
Speaker 2: the same neighbor and everything like you me her us,

976
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:44,240
Speaker 2: we are far from fucking middle class.

977
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 5: Just stop right, stop literally, like reality are you pitying

978
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:51,440
Speaker 5: me right now. I was like, so clearly you have

979
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:54,279
Speaker 5: no idea. What what do you think middle classes? What

980
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 5: are you talking about right now? Yeah?

981
00:44:56,000 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 4: I had this in this discussion, Like I remember because

982
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 4: I was telling them like, well, you know, with minimum

983
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 4: wage and stuff, that's still assuming that you get the

984
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 4: job at the same rate as another person.

985
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 5: There's still like so much to account for.

986
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 4: Even if you were like, we're gonna pay people a

987
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 4: living wage, well, now who gets that job? Is it

988
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 4: still the same racial proportion or is it gonna be like, well,

989
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:19,279
Speaker 4: now there's a white job.

990
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 5: Sorry, but this is a you got priced out, you know.

991
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 4: I was like, you know, when it comes to things

992
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 4: like criminalization, there's like there's bias in so many instances

993
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 4: that economic factors just can't account for. And you know,

994
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 4: and I was like, you know, even polication over policing

995
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 4: is a tax. You know, it's basically a tax. It's

996
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 4: a way to tax poor people through fines, through warrants,

997
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 4: through all kinds of shit that costs money. Now you're

998
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 4: in the system, you gotta bail yourself out. Well, now

999
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 4: you got this bail where there's a fine because you

1000
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 4: didn't show up in court. Why because you couldn't miss

1001
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 4: your work or whatever, Like it's always some shit to

1002
00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:59,319
Speaker 4: keep you giving up money. And I was like, that's

1003
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 4: basically a tax on poor black people, but we don't

1004
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:04,479
Speaker 4: see it as such because we think poor black people

1005
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 4: are just inherently criminal and worse people.

1006
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:08,279
Speaker 5: You talked on your list show.

1007
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 2: Despite being legal in Colorado, they're arresting more black people exactly,

1008
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:16,919
Speaker 2: Like why, like, huh because of what you just said.

1009
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 6: It's agination, like that makes some money.

1010
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:21,320
Speaker 4: So it's just you know, so I was just thinking

1011
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 4: of it, like, because you know economics, I would feel

1012
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 4: like most people can discuss at least understand the money

1013
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 4: part of issues, but once you get to the race part,

1014
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:32,919
Speaker 4: it's like that shit just goes out the door again.

1015
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 4: So yeah, but you know, at any rate, that's why

1016
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 4: I had to stop talking to white people about that shit,

1017
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 4: because I was like, you got to pass a litmus

1018
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 4: test of whiteness before I can fuck with you, Like,

1019
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 4: you just gotta be past that because those were what

1020
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:50,759
Speaker 4: people would consider well meaning white folks. They weren't, right, yeah, sure,

1021
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:52,439
Speaker 4: overtly racist white people.

1022
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 2: So that that thing you said about like me and

1023
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:57,360
Speaker 2: I would like you know, be kind of like literally

1024
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 2: like an advocate for change, you know, like quote unch

1025
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 2: ally one day and then be like no, I'm done.

1026
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 2: I'm taking you know, I'm taking that piece of paper

1027
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 2: back and I'm gonna go back to whatever I want.

1028
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 2: That privilege is as it's the greatest privilege of a

1029
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 2: white person, and it's so I don't say like pervasive,

1030
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:17,840
Speaker 2: but like if you don't like consciously and actively combat it,

1031
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 2: you can like fall into it. Like like I'm trying

1032
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 2: to think a good example, Like I was going to

1033
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 2: a like maybe a couple.

1034
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:23,319
Speaker 5: Of years ago.

1035
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:25,719
Speaker 2: There's a lot of different more marches and protests, and

1036
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:27,880
Speaker 2: maybe there are currently, but so we're going to a

1037
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 2: bunch of different ones. And I was on my phone

1038
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 2: doing something. I was kind of distracted, and I was like,

1039
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:32,799
Speaker 2: am I here?

1040
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 5: Am I not here?

1041
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 2: Why am I here? What purpose am I here? What

1042
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 2: is the optic of what I look like? And it

1043
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:39,879
Speaker 2: didn't really hit me until these two young women are

1044
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 2: like that's.

1045
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:43,239
Speaker 5: A cap, Like that's a cap.

1046
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 2: I fucking look just like a cop. I'm on my phone,

1047
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 2: I'm distracted, I'm white, like, but it was like I

1048
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 2: had all the best intentions, had all the best intentions.

1049
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 2: I did not intend to go look like a cop,

1050
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:58,799
Speaker 2: but the ability to be like not present to the

1051
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 2: reality that black people I have and what this means,

1052
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:04,239
Speaker 2: like what black libation literally is for my wife and

1053
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:07,800
Speaker 2: other members of my family. If I'm not consciously trying

1054
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:09,239
Speaker 2: to keep that at the fore of mind, it's just

1055
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 2: like it can just go away in a heartbeat.

1056
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:12,400
Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, I agree.

1057
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:15,320
Speaker 4: I think it happens with uh, with men in general,

1058
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 4: going back to this juvenile thing. How many men are

1059
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:21,880
Speaker 4: going to be like, I'm on juvenile side a person

1060
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:24,360
Speaker 4: for calling a woman on whole, but they would also

1061
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:25,880
Speaker 4: defend the idea of being.

1062
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 5: Able to street harass a woman.

1063
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:30,280
Speaker 4: Ye right, you know, like that intersection, and I understand

1064
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:33,319
Speaker 4: the logic behind it, even though I disagree logic, you know,

1065
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:39,080
Speaker 4: being well, this is more offensive because it's indirect presence

1066
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:43,720
Speaker 4: of her man, so therefore the ownership title has been passed,

1067
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:46,279
Speaker 4: and you have insulted this man through the days of

1068
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 4: street harassment. But yeah, I mean, but that's probably how

1069
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 4: they review it, right, you know, it's.

1070
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 3: Not because what they're saying is wrong is not actually

1071
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 3: the insults to the woman at all.

1072
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 5: With that what their problems is that this was an insult.

1073
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:05,440
Speaker 2: Now to the man, that's the problem publicly, and now

1074
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 2: he has to respond, and he's right right.

1075
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 4: Like it's it becomes some quote unquote man ship at

1076
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 4: that point where it's like, as a man, you.

1077
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:16,759
Speaker 5: Don't talk to my woman when I'm around, you know,

1078
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 5: like that.

1079
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:20,399
Speaker 7: But but it's no longer about her, and the whole

1080
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:21,839
Speaker 7: situation was about her.

1081
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:24,880
Speaker 4: Funny is if he would have been like quote juvenile lyrics,

1082
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:26,839
Speaker 4: so he could be like, you taught me this.

1083
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 5: I used to respect women. Then I was listening to you.

1084
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:33,919
Speaker 2: But that would have been I don't know what it is, Leslie,

1085
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 2: but whenever we should go to Brooklyn, I get dirty

1086
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:36,839
Speaker 2: matched all the time, Like I'd be.

1087
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:38,840
Speaker 5: Holding holding the door for you.

1088
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 2: I'm holding the door like hey, and like Jess would

1089
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:43,319
Speaker 2: be like, yo, what's going on?

1090
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 7: Girl?

1091
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:48,319
Speaker 4: Like you don't even do it right? Because so they'll

1092
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 4: be like hey, ma, like every time, how's it going on?

1093
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 4: Like all the time, and I'm like, oh, I feel bad,

1094
00:49:56,280 --> 00:50:01,239
Speaker 4: but yeah, if you're in Flatbush, apparently you're you don't

1095
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:02,799
Speaker 4: have any claim to anything, apparently and.

1096
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:04,880
Speaker 2: Flopp us, we haven't a dreaming though I don't. I

1097
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 2: don't start stuff. I know you're coming with me.

1098
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:07,839
Speaker 6: It's all good.

1099
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 5: So is all a flatbush waffle house? Or is it

1100
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:15,799
Speaker 5: just is it just okay there? Yeah, it's just okay there,

1101
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:16,760
Speaker 5: it's just okay and flop.

1102
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 4: Apparently middle aged couples are more adventures in bed than

1103
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:23,400
Speaker 4: people in their twenties.

1104
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 7: Oh of course you don't live life. You done got

1105
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 7: off of an awkward sex. You done got to the

1106
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:30,840
Speaker 7: point where you know what you want. A lot of times,

1107
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:34,319
Speaker 7: h if your age right, all your fucking egos men

1108
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:35,720
Speaker 7: and women egos.

1109
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:36,920
Speaker 8: To the side, and you be like I want to

1110
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:38,880
Speaker 8: like this. He be like what you want? Baby?

1111
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 7: You know, dudes don't come in thinking they dick game

1112
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 7: is the bomb and you can't fuck a rock.

1113
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:45,359
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm with you on that.

1114
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 2: There's definitely and there's like a little bit of a

1115
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:50,080
Speaker 2: like it depends like have you've been together a long

1116
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 2: time or even either way by middle age, if you've

1117
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:55,800
Speaker 2: got hang ups, if you're still like a shy about

1118
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 2: like this is what I want?

1119
00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:57,839
Speaker 5: Like whatever it is? Right?

1120
00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:00,440
Speaker 2: You know, like what was the amber and and the

1121
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:02,840
Speaker 2: butt whole finger went out like like like if you

1122
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:04,800
Speaker 2: want to finger in your bod hole, like go for it, dude, Like,

1123
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:06,400
Speaker 2: don't be shy, but I don't like to damn look,

1124
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 2: give me the butterhole finger, Like I don't know what

1125
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 2: the issue is like, especially by the time you're like forty,

1126
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 2: Like if you can't be like saying what you want

1127
00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 2: directly in bed at forty yeah, cord.

1128
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 4: According to survey, which was completed by two thousand, four

1129
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 4: hundred people in Canada whose ages range between forty and

1130
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 4: fifty nine, results revealed that middle aged couples are very

1131
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:31,239
Speaker 4: sexually active and that they're more willing to try new

1132
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:33,840
Speaker 4: things in the bedroom than they were during previous decades.

1133
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:34,719
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1134
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 7: And two, I think when people are younger, just like

1135
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:40,239
Speaker 7: a lot of shit. You don't know nothing, but just

1136
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 7: you make these ridiculous fucking lists that you think you

1137
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:44,880
Speaker 7: can live by, and I do this.

1138
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:48,360
Speaker 8: Do this, I won't do this, and you know, you haven't.

1139
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:51,320
Speaker 7: Really experienced anything. So as you get older, you're like, fuck.

1140
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 8: It, what I got to lose?

1141
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1142
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:55,799
Speaker 4: Sixty three percent of surveyed expressed that they were more

1143
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 4: interested in trying new things to enhance pleasure than they

1144
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:03,000
Speaker 4: were ten years ago. Researcher Alex McKay, who was executive

1145
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:05,440
Speaker 4: director of the s I e c C. A. M

1146
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 4: explained that the team assigned to this project UH specifically

1147
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 4: looked at forty to fifty nine year old age group

1148
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 4: because they were the first group to grow up during

1149
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:18,320
Speaker 4: the sexual Revolution and that was where we saw society

1150
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 4: take a more liberal turn to sexuality and people grew

1151
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:22,920
Speaker 4: up with the idea of the sexuality was something to

1152
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 4: be enjoyed. He said that in the interview with the

1153
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 4: Global News Canada. So there you guys, go man, it's

1154
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:31,719
Speaker 4: a good reason to want to hit forty Yeah, good

1155
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:34,839
Speaker 4: times ahead, better times ahead. That that's right, it's time

1156
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:35,880
Speaker 4: to start eating ass.

1157
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:40,520
Speaker 6: Man, there's that.

1158
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 2: There a paper for this and allumined for that forty

1159
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:46,759
Speaker 2: Oh you had to eating ass anniversary.

1160
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 5: Cool for yousari. Yeah, good for you, guys. You're doing

1161
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:53,359
Speaker 5: some seconds and dick from the back over here. Guys.

1162
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:58,799
Speaker 5: All right, So I like to hear so, uh this

1163
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:00,160
Speaker 5: is this is just funny.

1164
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:05,719
Speaker 4: And I posted it on Facebook and Twitter because I

1165
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 4: thought it was cool, but then completely got sidetracked.

1166
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 5: But Business Insider wrote about the hashtag thrones.

1167
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 4: So cool, right, and I was celebrating it because I'm like,

1168
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 4: that's what's up.

1169
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:22,879
Speaker 5: We made it, you know what I mean.

1170
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:25,280
Speaker 7: Yeah, in the last few weeks, we've literally been number

1171
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:26,960
Speaker 7: two behind Game of Thrones.

1172
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:30,480
Speaker 3: Right, So unit like announcing if you weren't here, what

1173
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:32,400
Speaker 3: I gotta say, You need to use them thrones.

1174
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:33,279
Speaker 5: It's real.

1175
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:36,799
Speaker 4: Yes, it's trending and auto feels on my tweet deck

1176
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:39,839
Speaker 4: like it's dope, like I and I appreciate haking time

1177
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:42,400
Speaker 4: out to tweet with it. For those who want a

1178
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:45,280
Speaker 4: brief history of the them Thrones hashtag. Basically, what started

1179
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:48,040
Speaker 4: was I was listening to fire Starter podcast, which is

1180
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 4: one of my podcast still, and I listened to them

1181
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 4: and they were sometimes they do recaps of shows, and

1182
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 4: they were recapping Game of Thrones and they just kind

1183
00:53:57,200 --> 00:54:01,440
Speaker 4: of casually used like DC playing and shit, and they'll

1184
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:03,960
Speaker 4: just be like, oh, you want to talk about them

1185
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 4: Thrones and it's like and I was like, that's brilliant.

1186
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:09,319
Speaker 4: That is we should be talking. We should use that

1187
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 4: gamer thrones as a hashtag is not as good as

1188
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:16,040
Speaker 4: them Thrones, And from now on, that's it's them thrones

1189
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:19,120
Speaker 4: to me, Like that's how it's I'm referring to it.

1190
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:23,000
Speaker 4: And so I think we were going to cover it

1191
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:25,839
Speaker 4: or review a podcast, and I was like, we need

1192
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:28,960
Speaker 4: a hashtag that I can easily.

1193
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:31,640
Speaker 5: Find on Twitter.

1194
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:34,440
Speaker 4: Where I don't have to go through all these fucking

1195
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 4: tweets because I'll never find all the gamer thrones tweets.

1196
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:40,239
Speaker 4: That's you know, it's kind of before Twitter had this

1197
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 4: like really good search app. But I could go to

1198
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 4: the dim Thrones and just scroll through my timeline, find it,

1199
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:48,920
Speaker 4: and be like, okay, let's recap it. So I started

1200
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:50,880
Speaker 4: using them Thrones because it was a little bit different,

1201
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:53,360
Speaker 4: and you know, of course I always shout out the

1202
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:57,399
Speaker 4: fire starter for even starting that shit, and so other

1203
00:54:57,440 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 4: people started using it. It caught on Jamie Brodnax from

1204
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:04,840
Speaker 4: Black Girl Nurse. She's one of the people that she's

1205
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:07,920
Speaker 4: just saw us using like these these hashtags, and they

1206
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:08,759
Speaker 4: started using it.

1207
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:09,880
Speaker 5: I have no problem with that.

1208
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:14,000
Speaker 4: She even emailed me about it and everything behind the scenes,

1209
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 4: and I was like, man, don't feel anything about Just

1210
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:18,879
Speaker 4: do whatever you want, because it's not I don't feel

1211
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:21,399
Speaker 4: like we own any hashtag. I don't think that's how

1212
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:25,560
Speaker 4: social media really works anyway. At least my philosophy is

1213
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:27,279
Speaker 4: you can't really own that shit. The most you can

1214
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:28,840
Speaker 4: hope for is that people give you credit for what

1215
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:32,280
Speaker 4: you create, but you put it on some public platform,

1216
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:35,239
Speaker 4: people are gonna run with it. That's why it's social media, right.

1217
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:39,520
Speaker 4: So they wrote about this in the Business Insider, but

1218
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:42,200
Speaker 4: then they pretty much gave all the credit to Jamie

1219
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:45,760
Speaker 4: and Black Girl Nurse, who kind of corrected them on Twitter,

1220
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:48,799
Speaker 4: was like, no, that's not how it started. We got

1221
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:52,719
Speaker 4: it from Karen Rod. We got it from Firestarter. So

1222
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:55,680
Speaker 4: it's kind of like it's, you know, the way I

1223
00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:58,480
Speaker 4: see it is. Rather than look at who got the credit,

1224
00:55:58,480 --> 00:55:59,799
Speaker 4: because I think a lot of people kind of got

1225
00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:02,279
Speaker 4: her up on that, I just look at it like

1226
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 4: it's a big win for everybody that us black Twitter

1227
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:08,600
Speaker 4: because it's our hashtag.

1228
00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:09,120
Speaker 5: That's lit.

1229
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:11,360
Speaker 4: And the whole thing basically goes on to say, like

1230
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 4: this hashtag is better than the Game of Thrones hashtag.

1231
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:20,480
Speaker 8: It is the regular game. It's very generic and very white.

1232
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 8: I'm just gonna keep that real.

1233
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 7: And if you really scroll through it, it's very boring. In

1234
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:25,960
Speaker 7: my opinion, it very bland.

1235
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:28,600
Speaker 4: It's a lot of people being mad about the book

1236
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:32,640
Speaker 4: being spoiled, or spoiling the book, or you know, like

1237
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 4: it's a bunch of stuff that's kind of not as

1238
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:38,439
Speaker 4: fun as our shit, you know. And so this article

1239
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:40,080
Speaker 4: goes on the list a bunch of tweets and stuff

1240
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:43,200
Speaker 4: from people that we see use the hashtag, and I

1241
00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:45,879
Speaker 4: just think it's really dope. So uh, and I think

1242
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:49,560
Speaker 4: maybe this person kind of wanted to give Jamie and

1243
00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:52,640
Speaker 4: them some like some right about them anyway, because the

1244
00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:55,960
Speaker 4: whole thing is kind of really about them as for

1245
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:58,759
Speaker 4: a while, which so maybe he kind of wanted to

1246
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:00,520
Speaker 4: do that going in and then just was like, Oh,

1247
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:02,719
Speaker 4: here's a good opportunity to get them some props. I

1248
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:04,560
Speaker 4: don't have no problem with it, and shout out to

1249
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 4: Jamie and the friends of the show, and we definitely

1250
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:08,919
Speaker 4: got to get them back on the recap again.

1251
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:12,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of times with those things, like like

1252
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:14,360
Speaker 3: you said, is that they're they already have a narrative

1253
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:18,000
Speaker 3: that they have in mind to write and they probably

1254
00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:19,080
Speaker 3: wouldn't even told Jamie.

1255
00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:21,040
Speaker 5: I was thinking, had that happen before.

1256
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:23,280
Speaker 2: There was a thing that you did through the frin

1257
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:25,600
Speaker 2: Fergus Resonse network and they wrote about it, made the

1258
00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:27,680
Speaker 2: paper here in town and whatnot, and they attributed it

1259
00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:30,720
Speaker 2: to a vocal Black Lives Matter chapter which at the

1260
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:32,240
Speaker 2: end had nothing to do with it. They pulled out,

1261
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:34,480
Speaker 2: not saying it like in a bad way. They just participate,

1262
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:38,120
Speaker 2: and uh, Leslie called the person and had already gone

1263
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:40,280
Speaker 2: out and was like in digital or whatever, and she's like, well,

1264
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:41,720
Speaker 2: you know I was the one this, that and anything.

1265
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:43,440
Speaker 5: He's like, oh, well that doesn't fit the narrative. Well

1266
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:44,160
Speaker 5: but it's the truth.

1267
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:45,760
Speaker 2: Well okay, but you know, this is what we're trying.

1268
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:47,200
Speaker 2: This is the story we're telling. And they left it

1269
00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:48,640
Speaker 2: up there. They didn't want to change it or anything,

1270
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:50,160
Speaker 2: like the truth really didn't matter to them.

1271
00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:52,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, I will say this because well you actually bring

1272
00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:55,320
Speaker 4: up two good things. One, I'm going through so black

1273
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:57,560
Speaker 4: thing and being interviewed by all these different publications. And

1274
00:57:57,560 --> 00:58:00,720
Speaker 4: then we actually did a show about the the interviews

1275
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:04,800
Speaker 4: I gave and then the resulting articles and the difference

1276
00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:08,959
Speaker 4: between I said and what got printed, and like whether

1277
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:12,000
Speaker 4: it was the tale in inflammatory you know, whether it

1278
00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:14,520
Speaker 4: was people calling me an activist, whether it was people

1279
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:16,160
Speaker 4: being like comedian.

1280
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:17,880
Speaker 5: There were people that call me comedian.

1281
00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:21,040
Speaker 4: There were people Only one out of like maybe eight

1282
00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:25,280
Speaker 4: articles actually mentioned that I said that if it wasn't

1283
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:27,920
Speaker 4: for the women who got on stage, none of this

1284
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:32,080
Speaker 4: shit would have happened at net Route. So technically I'm

1285
00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:35,880
Speaker 4: not the person to be interviewing about the actual pushback

1286
00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:38,200
Speaker 4: to Bernie Sanders because I didn't.

1287
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:40,480
Speaker 5: Push back to Bernie Sanders. That's not me. I made

1288
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:41,280
Speaker 5: a joke that.

1289
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:46,360
Speaker 4: Went viral and one article mentioned that so so, but

1290
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:48,960
Speaker 4: I told every interview that, so I made it a

1291
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:51,720
Speaker 4: point because I kept thinking in my head was so,

1292
00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:53,600
Speaker 4: I'm gonna read these articles and they're gonna be like

1293
00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:55,960
Speaker 4: this niggaag trying to take all the credit for these

1294
00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:58,640
Speaker 4: hard working women, and I'm not, you know what I'm saying.

1295
00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:00,960
Speaker 4: And I wanted to be clear about that. It wasn't

1296
00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:05,000
Speaker 4: important to people. Even with this thing today like that,

1297
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:07,760
Speaker 4: God said he will update it this morning at like

1298
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:11,440
Speaker 4: eight in the morning or something. It hasn't been updated yet, right, so,

1299
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:14,160
Speaker 4: and I'm not holding my breath. I'm assuming it will

1300
00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:18,320
Speaker 4: probably will never get updated. But the point being, it

1301
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:20,720
Speaker 4: wasn't fit the narrative that he wanted to tell, which

1302
00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:23,720
Speaker 4: is like to give them props. So he hasn't gone

1303
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:25,720
Speaker 4: back to fix it, and maybe he will, or maybe

1304
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:26,480
Speaker 4: it takes a while.

1305
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Speaker 5: I don't know how long it takes.

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00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:31,600
Speaker 4: But the point being, I don't get too uptight about

1307
00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:34,919
Speaker 4: that kind of stuff because I know how it works

1308
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:38,360
Speaker 4: from the inside out, you know, But I do think

1309
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:41,600
Speaker 4: that it happens a lot. You know how many black

1310
00:59:41,640 --> 00:59:45,440
Speaker 4: people have talked about black issues and then been labeled

1311
00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:47,320
Speaker 4: black lives matter? Right?

1312
00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:50,360
Speaker 5: Like how much beef has that started? Like between?

1313
00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:53,560
Speaker 4: Because like not everything printed is something you agree with

1314
00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:56,400
Speaker 4: and not like. And it's not always something you've said

1315
00:59:56,960 --> 00:59:59,160
Speaker 4: which is fucked up. But you know there's certain parts

1316
00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:01,640
Speaker 4: that n Quoting certain parts is not and if a

1317
01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:05,280
Speaker 4: journalist decides yes, I talked to Leslie Mack. She talked

1318
01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:08,600
Speaker 4: to me about I don't know this issue evolving black something,

1319
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:12,439
Speaker 4: and I go, yeah, black Lives Matter activist Leslie Mack,

1320
01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:14,400
Speaker 4: and you have to come. It's now the onus is

1321
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:16,680
Speaker 4: on you on social media to be like, no, I'm

1322
01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:19,560
Speaker 4: not a member of Black Lives Matter. I didn't say that.

1323
01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:22,760
Speaker 4: I don't know why this person labeled me this, but

1324
01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:25,080
Speaker 4: the damage is done. People who don't like you or

1325
01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:27,160
Speaker 4: don't trust you are already going to be like, she

1326
01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:31,000
Speaker 4: took all the credit. You know, That's how it goes.

1327
01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:34,400
Speaker 4: And it's like it sucks because it's lazy journalism. Right,

1328
01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:38,200
Speaker 4: starting this beef between people that really, in my opinion,

1329
01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:39,800
Speaker 4: most of the time, people would be cool with each

1330
01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:42,800
Speaker 4: other if it wasn't for motherfuckers coming in and being

1331
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:44,880
Speaker 4: lazy and starting shit. And I wanted to nip that

1332
01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:48,040
Speaker 4: in the butt on the show, and I already addressed

1333
01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:48,760
Speaker 4: it on social media.

1334
01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:50,360
Speaker 5: But we don't have any.

1335
01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:53,480
Speaker 4: Beef for black girls black girl nerves, and not only that,

1336
01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:57,000
Speaker 4: they're cool with us, so please. I saw people being like,

1337
01:00:57,560 --> 01:01:00,160
Speaker 4: they use a different hashtag for this. I'm like, yes, what,

1338
01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:01,880
Speaker 4: we don't own hashtags?

1339
01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:04,760
Speaker 5: Guys. We weren't the only people that thought of coming up.

1340
01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:08,320
Speaker 4: With hashtags for shows like let's all calm down, this

1341
01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:10,160
Speaker 4: isn't a fight, you know what I mean? And I

1342
01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:14,400
Speaker 4: hope people look at it that way, because just because

1343
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:17,440
Speaker 4: a journalist decided to not without even interviewing them, give

1344
01:01:17,480 --> 01:01:19,480
Speaker 4: them credit for something, doesn't mean they tried to.

1345
01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:21,800
Speaker 3: Get great for it and low key it's so it's

1346
01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:23,520
Speaker 3: a lot of anti blackness and a lot of and

1347
01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:26,440
Speaker 3: all that laziness, you know, because they're able to apply

1348
01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:31,280
Speaker 3: nuanced and intricacy is to white narratives, but when they're

1349
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:33,600
Speaker 3: talking about black people, it's always about putting them in

1350
01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:37,800
Speaker 3: whatever boxes. They've already have labeled somewhere whatever this subject

1351
01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:41,280
Speaker 3: might be, so you know, it's too it's too complicated

1352
01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:44,800
Speaker 3: to tell how amazing it is that Firestarter had this

1353
01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:48,160
Speaker 3: organic conversation that led to a Eureka moment for you

1354
01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:50,520
Speaker 3: that then led to this huge network like black girl

1355
01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:53,840
Speaker 3: nerds taking it on and expanding so far far enough

1356
01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:56,680
Speaker 3: to have this fucking article read about it. That's an

1357
01:01:56,720 --> 01:02:02,480
Speaker 3: amazing story about the connectedness of social media and independent media.

1358
01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:05,080
Speaker 4: But that's that's not that's not the story they want

1359
01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:07,000
Speaker 4: to tell. So that's that's not what you're going to hear.

1360
01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:09,520
Speaker 4: We need like a black journalist to come in and

1361
01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:12,480
Speaker 4: fucking care about it and write about it, because that's

1362
01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:17,680
Speaker 4: the only way it's gonna happen, you know. Speaking of journalism,

1363
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Speaker 4: Mark Zuckerberg is meeting with Glenn beck Uh to discuss

1364
01:02:23,200 --> 01:02:27,960
Speaker 4: Facebook's alleged political bias because Facebook has decided in.

1365
01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:32,000
Speaker 5: The news feed feature to not put.

1366
01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:37,280
Speaker 4: Up certain conservative you know, sites and news articles, so

1367
01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:40,600
Speaker 4: they don't want it to be trending their site, and

1368
01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:48,240
Speaker 4: conservative people have really taken offense to this.

1369
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Speaker 6: That a senator talking about it on the floor of Congress.

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Speaker 4: Really they've taken it very far, so Glenn Beck wants

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Speaker 4: to meet with him.

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Speaker 3: It's like an elected Glenn Back to president of anything

1373
01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:03,919
Speaker 3: or representative of anything to feel like he's the one

1374
01:03:04,200 --> 01:03:07,600
Speaker 3: that needs to go talk to Marcus Zuckerberg like h.

1375
01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:12,920
Speaker 8: Yeah, well like point of meeting with you.

1376
01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:15,560
Speaker 4: Well, he's gonna meet with conservative media leaders this week,

1377
01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:18,720
Speaker 4: and a Facebook post conservative media personality going Back said

1378
01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:22,640
Speaker 4: that he had been contacted by Zuckerberg's office. So Zuckerberg's office,

1379
01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:26,400
Speaker 4: I guess he feels annoyed him about visiting Facebook and

1380
01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:29,640
Speaker 4: Menlo Park on Wednesday discussed the recent controversy. It will

1381
01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:31,720
Speaker 4: be it would be interesting to look him in the eye,

1382
01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:34,960
Speaker 4: as he explains, and a win for all voices if

1383
01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:36,520
Speaker 4: we can come to a place of real trust with

1384
01:03:36,520 --> 01:03:40,920
Speaker 4: this powerful tool. Backro Routers later confirmed that Back, along

1385
01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:44,480
Speaker 4: with other leaders like Fox News host Dana Perino, is

1386
01:03:44,560 --> 01:03:49,520
Speaker 4: planning to meet with Zuckerberg on Friday. On Wednesday, Yeah, apparently,

1387
01:03:49,520 --> 01:03:52,320
Speaker 4: Gizmoto had a report that kicked off the conservative firestorm

1388
01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:56,560
Speaker 4: last week, revealing Facebook's own news curation team kept right

1389
01:03:56,600 --> 01:04:00,080
Speaker 4: winging politics and topics and stories out of face this

1390
01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:02,000
Speaker 4: book's prominent trended news section.

1391
01:04:02,440 --> 01:04:04,880
Speaker 8: Yeah, question, Am I the only ones that don't care

1392
01:04:05,040 --> 01:04:05,800
Speaker 8: don't read that.

1393
01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:09,400
Speaker 5: The trending news section. I don't use that ship. Who

1394
01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:09,920
Speaker 5: uses that?

1395
01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:12,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know who used it either, but I'm

1396
01:04:12,280 --> 01:04:16,560
Speaker 4: assuming some people must get their news from Facebook that way.

1397
01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:21,120
Speaker 3: I'm assuming this is such weight fragility, like to make

1398
01:04:21,200 --> 01:04:24,720
Speaker 3: up an irrational fear about nothing on a platform that

1399
01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:30,040
Speaker 3: regularly xciz as smart and nuanced black voices and allows

1400
01:04:30,120 --> 01:04:32,200
Speaker 3: racists to say whatever the fuck they want to with

1401
01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:34,480
Speaker 3: no punity whatsoever.

1402
01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:41,680
Speaker 5: Like you think that you're being discriminated against you? It's

1403
01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:45,000
Speaker 5: just insane, it's delusion.

1404
01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:46,800
Speaker 8: What about the news?

1405
01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:51,080
Speaker 2: I was even like like the same maybe a little

1406
01:04:51,080 --> 01:04:54,800
Speaker 2: bit to sort of how they curate ship. They already

1407
01:04:54,840 --> 01:04:58,480
Speaker 2: deliberately show more like opposing stuff to you to get

1408
01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:01,040
Speaker 2: you to like talk and are and like have like

1409
01:05:01,240 --> 01:05:03,400
Speaker 2: almost like quasi confrontations. Like if all they did was

1410
01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:05,680
Speaker 2: show shit you agreed with, you wouldn't like engage with

1411
01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:09,000
Speaker 2: anything like okay, like yeah cool, uh ditto second, Like,

1412
01:05:09,160 --> 01:05:11,560
Speaker 2: but you show some shit you disagree, Like wait a minute, buddy,

1413
01:05:11,560 --> 01:05:13,040
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have a big conversation with you.

1414
01:05:13,080 --> 01:05:14,040
Speaker 6: Like that's kind of what they want.

1415
01:05:14,080 --> 01:05:17,840
Speaker 2: So like their algorithm already shows people you follow that

1416
01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:18,880
Speaker 2: have opposing viewpoints.

1417
01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:20,400
Speaker 5: It shows you their shit more so that.

1418
01:05:20,360 --> 01:05:22,680
Speaker 6: You kind of like engage with them. Literally that's their

1419
01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:23,200
Speaker 6: their plan.

1420
01:05:23,920 --> 01:05:28,080
Speaker 7: Okay, now that makes sense because what was it earlier today?

1421
01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:31,600
Speaker 7: I had, well, yes, yesterday, Nina had, oh, are you

1422
01:05:31,600 --> 01:05:35,960
Speaker 7: gonna cover that article or about the pictures with Michelle Obama?

1423
01:05:36,120 --> 01:05:38,920
Speaker 4: And oh, I mean it wasn't really an article, but

1424
01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:40,160
Speaker 4: we can, we can cover it.

1425
01:05:40,360 --> 01:05:40,760
Speaker 8: Okay.

1426
01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:43,560
Speaker 7: Uh. Nina had posted an article and it had Michelle

1427
01:05:43,640 --> 01:05:46,560
Speaker 7: Obama and it had Donald's Trump's wife on the.

1428
01:05:46,520 --> 01:05:49,160
Speaker 5: Other side, Blania Trump I think it's her.

1429
01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:51,160
Speaker 7: Name, right, And it had two drawings of them, and

1430
01:05:51,240 --> 01:05:54,360
Speaker 7: I think for Donald Trump wife it was like make

1431
01:05:54,520 --> 01:05:58,320
Speaker 7: the first Lady great again. And for Michelle Obama it

1432
01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:03,840
Speaker 7: basically had her drawn very very manly, and then it

1433
01:06:04,080 --> 01:06:10,040
Speaker 7: had Bella Brown and Bella it had her tweets talking

1434
01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:13,720
Speaker 7: about that picture and and and and it had like

1435
01:06:13,720 --> 01:06:17,480
Speaker 7: snapshots of her talking about the history of black women

1436
01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:20,920
Speaker 7: and how you know, how dare you say this about

1437
01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:24,240
Speaker 7: Michelle Obama who's very very educated, but yet when you

1438
01:06:24,280 --> 01:06:27,200
Speaker 7: talk about Donalds Trump wife, you know the same things

1439
01:06:27,200 --> 01:06:30,160
Speaker 7: that y'all quote unquote slut shame people about you, praise

1440
01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:32,840
Speaker 7: her for these same things, and it just went on

1441
01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:36,920
Speaker 7: to the went all about the history of black women.

1442
01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:38,800
Speaker 8: And how you know we portrayed and all this stuff.

1443
01:06:38,840 --> 01:06:41,520
Speaker 7: So Nina posted and I reposted it on my Facebook

1444
01:06:41,560 --> 01:06:44,840
Speaker 7: website and I didn't think nothing of but it went

1445
01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:46,600
Speaker 7: on about my life. And I don't know how this

1446
01:06:46,640 --> 01:06:47,800
Speaker 7: person became my friend.

1447
01:06:47,920 --> 01:06:49,080
Speaker 8: I assumed he was a fan.

1448
01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:50,760
Speaker 7: Of the show, but apparently he wasn't, because he would

1449
01:06:50,760 --> 01:06:53,200
Speaker 7: have known not to hop in my on my posts

1450
01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:55,400
Speaker 7: and say anything in any crazy shit like this To me.

1451
01:06:55,920 --> 01:07:00,000
Speaker 7: He was like, Uh, the problem is he's talk about

1452
01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:03,440
Speaker 7: this shit is sad. The problem is, uh, you retweeting

1453
01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:07,280
Speaker 7: this and giving this people given this person the attention

1454
01:07:07,400 --> 01:07:12,560
Speaker 7: that they want. And I basically said, just like he

1455
01:07:12,640 --> 01:07:14,560
Speaker 7: has the right to post this, I have the right

1456
01:07:14,600 --> 01:07:17,920
Speaker 7: to say what I want to say, and who gives

1457
01:07:17,920 --> 01:07:20,240
Speaker 7: the fuck about how I feel about this? And I say,

1458
01:07:21,480 --> 01:07:24,000
Speaker 7: on the load, you're telling me to shut the fuck up,

1459
01:07:24,080 --> 01:07:25,280
Speaker 7: and I don't appreciate that.

1460
01:07:25,760 --> 01:07:26,000
Speaker 5: Yep.

1461
01:07:26,600 --> 01:07:30,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that empathy gap too, because black dude right,

1462
01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:34,840
Speaker 4: it was a black dude right. Yeah, Yeah, that's an

1463
01:07:34,840 --> 01:07:36,560
Speaker 4: empathy gap because I had a few brothers trying to

1464
01:07:36,560 --> 01:07:37,280
Speaker 4: post that shit too.

1465
01:07:37,280 --> 01:07:40,680
Speaker 5: When I posted the link, there's like black men that come.

1466
01:07:40,560 --> 01:07:45,880
Speaker 4: Through like I'm bored or tibico, I don't care, or

1467
01:07:46,280 --> 01:07:48,959
Speaker 4: why are we even paying attention to this? And it's like, yeah,

1468
01:07:49,440 --> 01:07:52,520
Speaker 4: I've seen you get mad over something. Skip Bayles said, Yeah,

1469
01:07:52,880 --> 01:07:55,240
Speaker 4: Like how who the fuck are you to decide what

1470
01:07:55,280 --> 01:07:57,640
Speaker 4: other people should be upset about? Or are you really

1471
01:07:57,680 --> 01:07:59,640
Speaker 4: just trying to say, well, this doesn't have a direct

1472
01:07:59,640 --> 01:08:04,360
Speaker 4: effect towards me, so therefore it's not important because I

1473
01:08:04,400 --> 01:08:07,000
Speaker 4: see this as a black woman issue, not a black

1474
01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:09,880
Speaker 4: people issue, not a unifying cause.

1475
01:08:09,960 --> 01:08:11,880
Speaker 5: Like making.

1476
01:08:13,400 --> 01:08:16,160
Speaker 4: Mocking black women for their body types and assuming that

1477
01:08:16,160 --> 01:08:20,480
Speaker 4: there's like a masculinity to it is definitely a historical

1478
01:08:21,200 --> 01:08:24,320
Speaker 4: racist trope and it's a shot across the bow of

1479
01:08:24,320 --> 01:08:26,760
Speaker 4: black women, but it's also a shot across the bowel

1480
01:08:26,840 --> 01:08:29,920
Speaker 4: period for black people. And as long as people don't

1481
01:08:30,040 --> 01:08:33,479
Speaker 4: view black women as black people, then you end up

1482
01:08:33,720 --> 01:08:35,439
Speaker 4: with the well why do y'all even care?

1483
01:08:35,520 --> 01:08:35,720
Speaker 6: Shit?

1484
01:08:35,880 --> 01:08:37,800
Speaker 4: And the thing is, why do you even care to

1485
01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:43,240
Speaker 4: say something? You could have kept scrolling right, yep, go ahead, carry.

1486
01:08:43,200 --> 01:08:44,240
Speaker 8: But that's my whole point.

1487
01:08:44,280 --> 01:08:46,880
Speaker 7: It's one of those things, particularly when it comes to

1488
01:08:46,920 --> 01:08:47,479
Speaker 7: social media.

1489
01:08:47,520 --> 01:08:50,000
Speaker 8: It's like, out of everything.

1490
01:08:49,439 --> 01:08:51,920
Speaker 7: I post, this is the thing that you chose to

1491
01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:53,200
Speaker 7: voice your opinion about.

1492
01:08:53,280 --> 01:08:54,400
Speaker 8: Master the problem that I had.

1493
01:08:54,600 --> 01:08:56,400
Speaker 7: You could have let this shit scroll just like you

1494
01:08:56,520 --> 01:08:58,000
Speaker 7: did everything else grow.

1495
01:08:58,360 --> 01:09:02,599
Speaker 8: And that's the thing sometimes people and my thing.

1496
01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:05,559
Speaker 7: I don't mind interaction, and I don't mind talking and

1497
01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:06,120
Speaker 7: things like that.

1498
01:09:06,160 --> 01:09:07,200
Speaker 8: I don't mind that at all.

1499
01:09:07,600 --> 01:09:10,200
Speaker 7: But it's just one of them things where he basically

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01:09:10,280 --> 01:09:13,960
Speaker 7: was like, my problem, the problem is me reposting this.

1501
01:09:14,439 --> 01:09:15,719
Speaker 8: And I told him, I said.

1502
01:09:16,200 --> 01:09:19,760
Speaker 4: Oh, sorry, I'm worried. Okay, don't worry about it.

1503
01:09:19,760 --> 01:09:20,000
Speaker 5: Sorry.

1504
01:09:20,439 --> 01:09:23,800
Speaker 7: I told him, the problem is what this dude is

1505
01:09:23,800 --> 01:09:26,840
Speaker 7: writing has history behind it, and me posting this and

1506
01:09:26,920 --> 01:09:28,960
Speaker 7: not posting this is not going to make people not

1507
01:09:29,000 --> 01:09:31,400
Speaker 7: be racist. And my thing is why you over here?

1508
01:09:31,400 --> 01:09:33,080
Speaker 7: Why aren't you over here telling him not to post

1509
01:09:33,160 --> 01:09:34,920
Speaker 7: racist shit? But you chose to come to me.

1510
01:09:35,160 --> 01:09:38,559
Speaker 5: Yeah, he started. Then he started talking about like spirits and.

1511
01:09:38,320 --> 01:09:40,800
Speaker 8: He was crazy. I got his ads out of there.

1512
01:09:41,360 --> 01:09:44,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, Karen, this is the thing, man, whenever somebody does

1513
01:09:44,439 --> 01:09:48,240
Speaker 4: some wild shit to caring on social media, I gotta

1514
01:09:48,280 --> 01:09:51,920
Speaker 4: hear about it. So could y'all stop, like just for

1515
01:09:52,040 --> 01:09:54,680
Speaker 4: my sayingy some of y'all playing to like me but

1516
01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:57,000
Speaker 4: not caring. Well, then don't say nothing to her, because

1517
01:09:57,040 --> 01:09:59,880
Speaker 4: now I gotta hear about it, okay, Like hearing was

1518
01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:04,760
Speaker 4: like go through all entire like she goes through an

1519
01:10:04,920 --> 01:10:09,960
Speaker 4: entire like Supreme Court trial. I do about blocking somebody,

1520
01:10:10,040 --> 01:10:12,439
Speaker 4: and I'm like, I don't even I don't put this

1521
01:10:12,600 --> 01:10:14,920
Speaker 4: much thinking into blocking anybody. It's always just like, we'll

1522
01:10:14,920 --> 01:10:16,920
Speaker 4: block him. I don't like what he was saying. And

1523
01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:19,679
Speaker 4: Karen's like, well, am I'm wrong here? Like she examines

1524
01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:22,759
Speaker 4: every angle of logic that maybe this person is okay,

1525
01:10:22,800 --> 01:10:25,439
Speaker 4: and I'm just like, fuck that person, like it's not

1526
01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:28,880
Speaker 4: You'll never see them in real life. I'm looking for

1527
01:10:28,880 --> 01:10:31,320
Speaker 4: a reason to block, like I acted him like should

1528
01:10:31,320 --> 01:10:32,559
Speaker 4: I I'm up blocked.

1529
01:10:32,720 --> 01:10:34,840
Speaker 5: I will block, no doubt, I will block.

1530
01:10:35,320 --> 01:10:37,919
Speaker 4: Listen, you know how many times somebody said some sideways

1531
01:10:37,960 --> 01:10:39,719
Speaker 4: of me and I just went straight to that page

1532
01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:41,960
Speaker 4: and was like scroll down to posts and be like,

1533
01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:43,639
Speaker 4: I don't like that shit blocked.

1534
01:10:43,680 --> 01:10:44,479
Speaker 5: We're not friends.

1535
01:10:44,520 --> 01:10:47,680
Speaker 3: Fuck you you all the time. I'm I'm ruthless with it.

1536
01:10:48,160 --> 01:10:51,080
Speaker 2: I'm more like Karen, I'm definitely In fact, there was

1537
01:10:51,320 --> 01:10:54,080
Speaker 2: a period where I added that so I was doing

1538
01:10:54,120 --> 01:10:55,960
Speaker 2: the follow back game and I stopped, but I was

1539
01:10:55,960 --> 01:10:58,040
Speaker 2: doing it till my timeline became shit. So I had

1540
01:10:58,040 --> 01:10:59,519
Speaker 2: like a listener trying to like you know, be able

1541
01:10:59,560 --> 01:11:02,240
Speaker 2: to cheer actual shit. And I put a couple of

1542
01:11:02,240 --> 01:11:04,920
Speaker 2: people on the list and they probably like very white

1543
01:11:04,920 --> 01:11:08,639
Speaker 2: guy just added you to a list, right, and like no, thanks,

1544
01:11:08,880 --> 01:11:10,519
Speaker 2: blocked right, like just on the site.

1545
01:11:10,520 --> 01:11:12,120
Speaker 5: But like I didn't really know if that was the

1546
01:11:12,160 --> 01:11:13,880
Speaker 5: case or not. I got like.

1547
01:11:13,880 --> 01:11:16,440
Speaker 6: Four or five, like I don't say high profile.

1548
01:11:16,080 --> 01:11:18,960
Speaker 5: But like you know, like high profile black women. Like really,

1549
01:11:19,000 --> 01:11:22,200
Speaker 5: I was like, oh my god, not you. But I

1550
01:11:22,520 --> 01:11:24,600
Speaker 5: stressed out.

1551
01:11:24,880 --> 01:11:27,080
Speaker 4: I mean there's like I'll just go on somebody's page

1552
01:11:27,080 --> 01:11:29,439
Speaker 4: and be like, uh, I'll see like.

1553
01:11:29,439 --> 01:11:30,120
Speaker 5: Feel the RN.

1554
01:11:30,200 --> 01:11:33,320
Speaker 4: I'm just like, no, no, but you said something that

1555
01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:35,320
Speaker 4: brought me here to your page in the first place,

1556
01:11:35,520 --> 01:11:38,479
Speaker 4: and now there's this thing so we're not friends.

1557
01:11:38,520 --> 01:11:39,360
Speaker 5: I have a long.

1558
01:11:39,160 --> 01:11:40,880
Speaker 3: List of like well, I don't even think about it.

1559
01:11:41,160 --> 01:11:45,479
Speaker 3: You know, obviously the avatar, there's a flag, animal, egg,

1560
01:11:46,560 --> 01:11:49,280
Speaker 3: an eagle, any of that shit. You just get blocked

1561
01:11:49,320 --> 01:11:51,000
Speaker 3: off the bat. I don't even bother and.

1562
01:11:50,920 --> 01:11:53,400
Speaker 7: I think I and maybe this is just me mentally

1563
01:11:53,720 --> 01:11:55,960
Speaker 7: now Twitter I'll block you won't think twice.

1564
01:11:56,000 --> 01:11:58,599
Speaker 8: Twitter is a completely different animal. Facebook.

1565
01:11:58,600 --> 01:12:00,000
Speaker 7: It is kind of I almost to kind of different.

1566
01:12:00,680 --> 01:12:03,320
Speaker 7: But you know, like I said, I do kind of

1567
01:12:03,360 --> 01:12:05,880
Speaker 7: think about it. Probably too harder than I need to.

1568
01:12:06,600 --> 01:12:08,320
Speaker 5: I mean, it's harder than I would.

1569
01:12:08,439 --> 01:12:12,160
Speaker 4: I can't say I can't decide for anybody what they write.

1570
01:12:12,400 --> 01:12:15,040
Speaker 4: Level is it's much harder than I would because I

1571
01:12:15,040 --> 01:12:16,960
Speaker 4: ain't never told you about somebody I'm about to block.

1572
01:12:17,760 --> 01:12:20,240
Speaker 5: Karm will come get me. It was one in the morning.

1573
01:12:21,080 --> 01:12:22,840
Speaker 4: It was one in the morning. I was trying to

1574
01:12:22,880 --> 01:12:26,760
Speaker 4: get up. I was trying to get up the feel

1575
01:12:26,800 --> 01:12:30,160
Speaker 4: of Walking Dead podcast. I was editing that ship and

1576
01:12:30,360 --> 01:12:32,920
Speaker 4: Karen just comes in, like you know, Charles so and

1577
01:12:33,000 --> 01:12:36,599
Speaker 4: So I was like no, She's like, what did you see?

1578
01:12:36,680 --> 01:12:38,640
Speaker 4: And like she won't just show me right away, like

1579
01:12:38,680 --> 01:12:40,559
Speaker 4: she want to take me through all the steps.

1580
01:12:40,560 --> 01:12:42,000
Speaker 5: I'm like, can I just see your phone? Let me

1581
01:12:42,040 --> 01:12:42,439
Speaker 5: just see it.

1582
01:12:43,160 --> 01:12:46,679
Speaker 3: But yeah, she wants a real response to what happened

1583
01:12:46,680 --> 01:12:47,639
Speaker 3: in real time.

1584
01:12:47,479 --> 01:12:50,120
Speaker 4: Right I just look at it immediately analyze them, like, yeah,

1585
01:12:50,160 --> 01:12:53,439
Speaker 4: this block, I'm just unfriend. Like she came in and

1586
01:12:53,479 --> 01:12:55,920
Speaker 4: so I thought it was settled last night, but then

1587
01:12:55,960 --> 01:12:58,479
Speaker 4: she came in today at lunch and was like, yeah,

1588
01:12:58,560 --> 01:13:01,240
Speaker 4: well you know I was I put this in and

1589
01:13:01,400 --> 01:13:03,000
Speaker 4: he was fond of this thing, and everybody was talking

1590
01:13:03,040 --> 01:13:04,960
Speaker 4: to him and saying, wait, you didn't block him last night,

1591
01:13:06,080 --> 01:13:06,559
Speaker 4: Like that.

1592
01:13:06,479 --> 01:13:09,040
Speaker 5: Wasn't the end at that conversation. Week there's more to

1593
01:13:09,200 --> 01:13:12,240
Speaker 5: you had to like, I don't know, maybe because.

1594
01:13:12,360 --> 01:13:14,840
Speaker 4: I have been trolled so much and I recognized trolling

1595
01:13:14,960 --> 01:13:17,640
Speaker 4: so early in the stages, I'm just like, yeah, that

1596
01:13:17,720 --> 01:13:18,639
Speaker 4: dude's a piece of shit.

1597
01:13:18,760 --> 01:13:19,000
Speaker 5: Troll.

1598
01:13:19,120 --> 01:13:21,280
Speaker 4: You just have to block that kind of person immediately,

1599
01:13:21,880 --> 01:13:24,839
Speaker 4: because I've never seen a situation where they came around.

1600
01:13:25,120 --> 01:13:25,360
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1601
01:13:25,479 --> 01:13:28,040
Speaker 8: Yeah, because like I said, with Twitter, I'm I'm quicker

1602
01:13:28,080 --> 01:13:28,840
Speaker 8: to on face.

1603
01:13:28,840 --> 01:13:31,280
Speaker 7: But most of the people I've weaned out so multi

1604
01:13:31,360 --> 01:13:33,840
Speaker 7: people I deal with on Facebook got good common sense,

1605
01:13:34,760 --> 01:13:35,479
Speaker 7: so you know.

1606
01:13:35,520 --> 01:13:39,519
Speaker 4: Them crazy listen let me tell you listen, Karen, Okay, yes,

1607
01:13:39,880 --> 01:13:44,920
Speaker 4: I know what you're thinking. That because of Ferguson and

1608
01:13:44,960 --> 01:13:48,040
Speaker 4: Mike Brown and all this shit, It's like, well, I

1609
01:13:48,040 --> 01:13:50,280
Speaker 4: got all the crazy races, white people and shit off

1610
01:13:50,320 --> 01:13:54,080
Speaker 4: my page. I should be good, right. Uh, it's a

1611
01:13:54,120 --> 01:13:56,559
Speaker 4: whole nother level of motherfuckers out.

1612
01:13:56,400 --> 01:13:57,080
Speaker 5: There that's got to go.

1613
01:13:57,800 --> 01:14:00,840
Speaker 4: And the issues for them are just sayingtual issues, so

1614
01:14:01,000 --> 01:14:05,200
Speaker 4: like gender issues. So all the motherfuckers is like, I

1615
01:14:05,200 --> 01:14:09,000
Speaker 4: don't see no problem with Charlemagne saying he only date

1616
01:14:09,080 --> 01:14:11,639
Speaker 4: Oh why is great to day white women? Them motherfucker's

1617
01:14:11,640 --> 01:14:15,640
Speaker 4: gotta go the uh baby bill they sent Bill Casey Up,

1618
01:14:15,840 --> 01:14:18,160
Speaker 4: there was a whole other level of motherfuckers has gotta go.

1619
01:14:19,200 --> 01:14:22,360
Speaker 5: Like he's taking me to court for my child support.

1620
01:14:23,320 --> 01:14:26,240
Speaker 4: You got to go by right, Serena Williams does kind

1621
01:14:26,240 --> 01:14:27,120
Speaker 4: of look like a man to me.

1622
01:14:27,400 --> 01:14:29,000
Speaker 5: Them niggas gotta go. It's a bunch.

1623
01:14:29,120 --> 01:14:32,040
Speaker 4: It's always anover ending battle of motherfuckers's gotta go.

1624
01:14:32,560 --> 01:14:34,360
Speaker 5: It's just that's just the way the game is.

1625
01:14:34,680 --> 01:14:37,120
Speaker 4: You know now, I don't even like approving people now

1626
01:14:37,400 --> 01:14:40,120
Speaker 4: because my first thought is are you a motherfucker?

1627
01:14:41,240 --> 01:14:43,200
Speaker 5: I'm gonna have to block later, Like that's my number

1628
01:14:43,240 --> 01:14:43,639
Speaker 5: one thought.

1629
01:14:43,680 --> 01:14:43,840
Speaker 7: Now.

1630
01:14:43,840 --> 01:14:46,599
Speaker 4: It's sad when I see your friend request, I don't

1631
01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:51,360
Speaker 4: think ooh a friend, I think potential enemy, Like howld on.

1632
01:14:51,560 --> 01:14:54,160
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm gonna look right now, I've literally been

1633
01:14:54,160 --> 01:14:57,120
Speaker 2: in a conversation with somebody and it includes Leslie or

1634
01:14:57,120 --> 01:14:59,800
Speaker 2: maybe like the International John account, and I'll have like

1635
01:15:00,160 --> 01:15:02,080
Speaker 2: three things, and its like, fuck, are you doing at blocked

1636
01:15:02,080 --> 01:15:02,519
Speaker 2: that person?

1637
01:15:03,120 --> 01:15:06,439
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm just finding and blocking all.

1638
01:15:07,080 --> 01:15:07,240
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1639
01:15:07,320 --> 01:15:10,599
Speaker 5: Yeah, you're caring and your in y'all's relationship. That's scaring.

1640
01:15:11,040 --> 01:15:14,200
Speaker 3: Always ready to continue engaging with these people. I've five

1641
01:15:14,280 --> 01:15:16,760
Speaker 3: hundred and ninety two FIR requests right now that won't

1642
01:15:16,800 --> 01:15:19,360
Speaker 3: be getting responded to because well also.

1643
01:15:19,680 --> 01:15:23,559
Speaker 4: You all like skinned woman, and we know the rules. Uh,

1644
01:15:23,840 --> 01:15:26,000
Speaker 4: when you try to text messages, I want to see

1645
01:15:26,360 --> 01:15:28,320
Speaker 4: what the nuther's looking like, and I'll just messing with you.

1646
01:15:28,360 --> 01:15:31,760
Speaker 4: But but yeah, I mean that is how it is, man,

1647
01:15:31,800 --> 01:15:33,760
Speaker 4: because like I know, there's one dude that like want

1648
01:15:33,800 --> 01:15:35,599
Speaker 4: to be because we have to prove people that want

1649
01:15:35,600 --> 01:15:37,920
Speaker 4: to be in a Facebook group and every one, dude,

1650
01:15:38,520 --> 01:15:39,599
Speaker 4: this is so sound, so.

1651
01:15:39,600 --> 01:15:41,400
Speaker 5: Fucked up, but I don't give a fuck. It's our group.

1652
01:15:41,760 --> 01:15:41,880
Speaker 9: Uh.

1653
01:15:41,920 --> 01:15:43,840
Speaker 5: I saw the dude's picture he had to fit it on.

1654
01:15:43,960 --> 01:15:46,160
Speaker 5: I went, looks like a fuck boy. So I clicked.

1655
01:15:48,880 --> 01:15:50,760
Speaker 5: He just had one of those pictures on, those fuck

1656
01:15:50,800 --> 01:15:51,800
Speaker 5: boy pictures.

1657
01:15:51,479 --> 01:15:55,719
Speaker 4: Like an oversize fitted like looking directly the camera, not smiling,

1658
01:15:56,040 --> 01:15:57,800
Speaker 4: you know, like it just I don't know, it just

1659
01:15:57,840 --> 01:15:58,120
Speaker 4: had this.

1660
01:15:58,520 --> 01:15:59,519
Speaker 5: He just gave a vibe.

1661
01:15:59,520 --> 01:16:02,680
Speaker 4: So I clicked on this Facebook page and within like

1662
01:16:02,840 --> 01:16:06,120
Speaker 4: two posts, I saw posts that started with what are

1663
01:16:06,120 --> 01:16:07,200
Speaker 4: these females?

1664
01:16:07,240 --> 01:16:10,400
Speaker 7: And I was like, no, lot, yeah, no, Now, when

1665
01:16:10,439 --> 01:16:13,080
Speaker 7: we go through that screening process, I am very particular.

1666
01:16:13,120 --> 01:16:15,240
Speaker 7: I'm not even gonna lie y'all when if you put

1667
01:16:15,240 --> 01:16:17,200
Speaker 7: it in the Facebook post, I click on your page,

1668
01:16:17,240 --> 01:16:19,560
Speaker 7: I click on your friends, I click who you associated

1669
01:16:19,600 --> 01:16:21,479
Speaker 7: with it, and something else.

1670
01:16:21,479 --> 01:16:23,280
Speaker 8: I'm gonna let you let y'all know most most of

1671
01:16:23,360 --> 01:16:23,960
Speaker 8: y'all don't do it.

1672
01:16:24,000 --> 01:16:26,840
Speaker 7: I think it be people that like real people, but

1673
01:16:26,960 --> 01:16:29,920
Speaker 7: yet they invite like eighteen of their friends.

1674
01:16:30,200 --> 01:16:32,840
Speaker 8: I will block you in all eighteen of your friends.

1675
01:16:32,760 --> 01:16:35,240
Speaker 4: Right, yeah, this ain't a group party, y'all know, niggas

1676
01:16:35,240 --> 01:16:37,200
Speaker 4: an listen to the show. If you add me to

1677
01:16:37,240 --> 01:16:41,320
Speaker 4: a group without asking me blocked right right, You're done.

1678
01:16:41,520 --> 01:16:42,120
Speaker 5: Don't do that.

1679
01:16:42,479 --> 01:16:45,759
Speaker 4: I don't like that shit anyway. Like I said, the

1680
01:16:45,800 --> 01:16:48,599
Speaker 4: media is not the problem. It's the social It's the people,

1681
01:16:49,120 --> 01:16:51,760
Speaker 4: uh whatever. That's why everybody's like, you know what so

1682
01:16:51,800 --> 01:16:53,640
Speaker 4: and so was cool in two thousand and eight, and

1683
01:16:53,680 --> 01:16:56,120
Speaker 4: you're like, then what happened? People got on it? That's right,

1684
01:16:56,160 --> 01:17:00,840
Speaker 4: people are the problem. People, whatever platform, I'm gonna say

1685
01:17:00,840 --> 01:17:01,759
Speaker 4: about them thrones.

1686
01:17:01,800 --> 01:17:04,120
Speaker 3: So now I'm a little concerned about, you know, the

1687
01:17:04,160 --> 01:17:06,200
Speaker 3: white gays, and he's trifling.

1688
01:17:06,240 --> 01:17:07,840
Speaker 5: Ask people starting to use them thrones.

1689
01:17:07,880 --> 01:17:10,240
Speaker 4: We don't be able to Oh yeah, white folks about

1690
01:17:10,240 --> 01:17:11,360
Speaker 4: to be using them phones.

1691
01:17:11,400 --> 01:17:12,120
Speaker 5: I'm okay with it.

1692
01:17:12,160 --> 01:17:15,200
Speaker 4: I've given up on trying to.

1693
01:17:15,200 --> 01:17:16,880
Speaker 5: Own social media man. I said.

1694
01:17:16,920 --> 01:17:20,040
Speaker 4: A long time ago, there was a hashtag. I think

1695
01:17:20,080 --> 01:17:22,040
Speaker 4: it was kind of like what hashtags first really started

1696
01:17:22,040 --> 01:17:25,360
Speaker 4: taking off, and they would go interview people who started.

1697
01:17:25,040 --> 01:17:25,800
Speaker 5: Hashtags and shit.

1698
01:17:25,880 --> 01:17:28,880
Speaker 4: But before that, what happened is a hashtag with trend

1699
01:17:29,040 --> 01:17:31,320
Speaker 4: or something, and they wouldn't ask anybody about it.

1700
01:17:31,640 --> 01:17:32,880
Speaker 5: They just write a fucking article.

1701
01:17:32,920 --> 01:17:36,320
Speaker 4: It just be like BuzzFeed covers I'm not your mule,

1702
01:17:36,680 --> 01:17:39,160
Speaker 4: and it's like, you should probably talk to a black

1703
01:17:39,160 --> 01:17:42,479
Speaker 4: person about that, and instead they like interview like two

1704
01:17:42,680 --> 01:17:46,439
Speaker 4: prominent white feminists that knew nothing about it. Ah, call

1705
01:17:46,560 --> 01:17:49,400
Speaker 4: that an article and post it. And then black women

1706
01:17:49,439 --> 01:17:52,160
Speaker 4: really led the charge in making them be like journalistic

1707
01:17:52,360 --> 01:17:56,679
Speaker 4: responsibility to go and talk to people about these trends

1708
01:17:56,720 --> 01:18:00,800
Speaker 4: that they started, especially these black trends, and really, you

1709
01:18:00,840 --> 01:18:03,200
Speaker 4: people should owe all the credit to black women for that.

1710
01:18:04,200 --> 01:18:08,559
Speaker 4: And now they do it routinely. But I always took

1711
01:18:08,680 --> 01:18:11,040
Speaker 4: from that. The lesson I took from all that shit

1712
01:18:11,320 --> 01:18:14,599
Speaker 4: is once a hashtag.

1713
01:18:14,280 --> 01:18:17,639
Speaker 5: Goes a certain amount of viral, you no longer own.

1714
01:18:17,479 --> 01:18:20,880
Speaker 4: That hashtag, so it's just nothing you can do about it,

1715
01:18:20,960 --> 01:18:23,599
Speaker 4: like you might have meant for it to be one way,

1716
01:18:24,360 --> 01:18:26,519
Speaker 4: Like I remember when Bernie so Black, You you know

1717
01:18:26,560 --> 01:18:29,759
Speaker 4: why Bernie so Black started trending so hard. Bernie Sanders

1718
01:18:29,800 --> 01:18:34,880
Speaker 4: fans trying to support him started using the hashtag and

1719
01:18:35,000 --> 01:18:37,200
Speaker 4: tweeting it with like pictures of him marching with Martin

1720
01:18:37,280 --> 01:18:37,840
Speaker 4: Luther Kye.

1721
01:18:37,680 --> 01:18:40,920
Speaker 8: And shit, right, that's what it would have been.

1722
01:18:40,960 --> 01:18:41,280
Speaker 5: Fine.

1723
01:18:41,920 --> 01:18:44,120
Speaker 4: It would have went away in a few minutes, like okay,

1724
01:18:44,120 --> 01:18:47,600
Speaker 4: an hour later, it's done. But they couldn't help themselves,

1725
01:18:47,640 --> 01:18:50,879
Speaker 4: so they and it's like I don't have any ownership

1726
01:18:50,920 --> 01:18:52,040
Speaker 4: of it. If it was up to me, I would

1727
01:18:52,040 --> 01:18:54,479
Speaker 4: have told him not to do that. But they did

1728
01:18:54,520 --> 01:18:56,680
Speaker 4: that thing and it made it more viral. But the

1729
01:18:56,720 --> 01:18:59,479
Speaker 4: point being I never owned the hashtag on the second

1730
01:18:59,479 --> 01:19:01,519
Speaker 4: I made the joke. Isn't all kinds of times I

1731
01:19:01,600 --> 01:19:03,519
Speaker 4: make a joke with a hashtag and if someone tries

1732
01:19:03,520 --> 01:19:05,080
Speaker 4: to add on to it and it's a terrible joke,

1733
01:19:05,120 --> 01:19:07,400
Speaker 4: and I just don't retweet it or pretend it didn't happen.

1734
01:19:08,600 --> 01:19:10,679
Speaker 5: But I don't have any control. I can't go to them.

1735
01:19:10,920 --> 01:19:13,720
Speaker 4: Hey man, please don't tweet the hashtag by using jokes,

1736
01:19:13,760 --> 01:19:15,720
Speaker 4: because my joke is actually the opposite of your joke,

1737
01:19:15,960 --> 01:19:19,080
Speaker 4: because it just it loses all the spontaneity of what

1738
01:19:19,120 --> 01:19:19,800
Speaker 4: it was meant to be.

1739
01:19:20,320 --> 01:19:23,679
Speaker 3: Absolutely, but it does remind me of my friend Junior Birch,

1740
01:19:23,680 --> 01:19:26,080
Speaker 3: all these the writers from Canada, and he says that

1741
01:19:27,240 --> 01:19:32,400
Speaker 3: white supremacy or our society devours blackness. Yes, it's necromancy,

1742
01:19:32,439 --> 01:19:35,400
Speaker 3: and it eats blackness in all of its forms until

1743
01:19:35,400 --> 01:19:37,720
Speaker 3: there's nothing left but the bones. And then it devours

1744
01:19:37,720 --> 01:19:40,760
Speaker 3: the bones. And so we and we see this play out.

1745
01:19:40,800 --> 01:19:42,840
Speaker 3: You know, we're talking about these hashtags and you know

1746
01:19:43,080 --> 01:19:48,200
Speaker 3: Business Insider, all of these different media outlets they look

1747
01:19:48,240 --> 01:19:51,280
Speaker 3: to distill what black people are talking about on social

1748
01:19:51,320 --> 01:19:55,000
Speaker 3: media to use it then and change it into something else.

1749
01:19:55,040 --> 01:19:57,960
Speaker 3: And it's just another form of that. But we're so

1750
01:19:58,000 --> 01:20:00,519
Speaker 3: we just keep inventing hot shit. That's just really that's

1751
01:20:00,560 --> 01:20:01,760
Speaker 3: what the crux.

1752
01:20:01,479 --> 01:20:01,880
Speaker 5: Of it is.

1753
01:20:02,040 --> 01:20:04,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, I saw somebody other like the other day, people

1754
01:20:04,360 --> 01:20:07,000
Speaker 4: were like speculating, like I don't know hopefully Black Panther

1755
01:20:07,040 --> 01:20:09,400
Speaker 4: will do well. I mean it's got ninety percent black

1756
01:20:09,439 --> 01:20:12,920
Speaker 4: cast and stuff. I was like, here's the thing. Historically,

1757
01:20:12,960 --> 01:20:17,760
Speaker 4: white people love Africa probably too much them.

1758
01:20:17,880 --> 01:20:21,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, historically, you know, if you guys look at how they.

1759
01:20:21,040 --> 01:20:25,519
Speaker 4: Feel about black shit, they love black art sometimes you know,

1760
01:20:26,080 --> 01:20:31,000
Speaker 4: like like a little bit like that bunny. Uh, a

1761
01:20:31,040 --> 01:20:33,720
Speaker 4: little bit like that bunny and like bugs bunny or

1762
01:20:34,080 --> 01:20:35,519
Speaker 4: mice and men like it's just like.

1763
01:20:35,479 --> 01:20:37,200
Speaker 5: A little they hug it a little too tight.

1764
01:20:38,920 --> 01:20:43,439
Speaker 4: But the but the point being that people love like

1765
01:20:43,760 --> 01:20:47,120
Speaker 4: white people love black shit, and that's why, uh, you know,

1766
01:20:47,200 --> 01:20:49,400
Speaker 4: some of the highest grossing movies will be like Creed

1767
01:20:49,680 --> 01:20:53,000
Speaker 4: or they'll be like, uh, straight out of Compton. Black

1768
01:20:53,000 --> 01:20:55,040
Speaker 4: people aren't the only ones watching that ship. Black people

1769
01:20:55,040 --> 01:20:58,040
Speaker 4: aren't the only ones that support Kendrick Lamar or Beyonce

1770
01:20:58,600 --> 01:21:00,720
Speaker 4: or any of this shit. So you know, I don't

1771
01:21:00,760 --> 01:21:05,000
Speaker 4: really worry too much about something being too black for

1772
01:21:05,040 --> 01:21:09,400
Speaker 4: white people, right because they support everything because our ship

1773
01:21:09,479 --> 01:21:13,120
Speaker 4: is the coolest, which means our hashtags are too, so

1774
01:21:13,800 --> 01:21:16,200
Speaker 4: that the hashtag eventually will be a bunch of corny

1775
01:21:16,200 --> 01:21:19,640
Speaker 4: ass hipsters probably saying them thrones ha ha.

1776
01:21:20,000 --> 01:21:20,240
Speaker 5: You know.

1777
01:21:20,479 --> 01:21:25,200
Speaker 4: Anyway, let's get into uh some sism guys. All right,

1778
01:21:25,320 --> 01:21:29,280
Speaker 4: what's I sism music? We gotta do some fucking with

1779
01:21:29,320 --> 01:21:33,479
Speaker 4: black people. Uh, there we go. Oh why is that

1780
01:21:33,560 --> 01:21:36,880
Speaker 4: sound so low? Hold on, let mean adjust my sound?

1781
01:21:38,560 --> 01:21:41,000
Speaker 4: All right, turn that up and.

1782
01:21:46,320 --> 01:21:47,120
Speaker 5: No wine.

1783
01:21:47,200 --> 01:21:57,560
Speaker 4: All right, we're just fucking with those black people. But

1784
01:21:57,720 --> 01:21:59,120
Speaker 4: just with those blacks.

1785
01:21:59,280 --> 01:22:02,839
Speaker 5: We're just fucking with fucking with black people.

1786
01:22:03,160 --> 01:22:05,120
Speaker 4: That's right, guys. Time to play the game, and we

1787
01:22:05,160 --> 01:22:07,560
Speaker 4: all hate to play. It's fucking with black people. The

1788
01:22:07,640 --> 01:22:09,439
Speaker 4: game where we go all around the globe and we

1789
01:22:09,479 --> 01:22:12,080
Speaker 4: find articles that fuck with black people and we assigned

1790
01:22:12,080 --> 01:22:14,000
Speaker 4: points scores from zero two hundred and in it was

1791
01:22:14,000 --> 01:22:15,640
Speaker 4: a twenty five. How much we felt fucked with this

1792
01:22:15,760 --> 01:22:20,240
Speaker 4: black people? Today's contestants, everybody, all right, let's see who

1793
01:22:20,320 --> 01:22:24,719
Speaker 4: fucked up oh Azalea Banks.

1794
01:22:25,200 --> 01:22:27,840
Speaker 5: Back in the news, she.

1795
01:22:27,960 --> 01:22:31,880
Speaker 4: Issued a the quote unquote sincerious apologies in the world

1796
01:22:33,160 --> 01:22:36,000
Speaker 4: to Scott Jackson and later called her.

1797
01:22:35,840 --> 01:22:36,799
Speaker 5: A coon in training.

1798
01:22:38,439 --> 01:22:39,599
Speaker 8: That's not about right.

1799
01:22:39,920 --> 01:22:40,400
Speaker 5: That's right.

1800
01:22:41,960 --> 01:22:46,640
Speaker 4: After Daffodil check cashing places Twitter account was suspended for

1801
01:22:46,760 --> 01:22:51,080
Speaker 4: collin Zy and Malick racist names, the rapper called out

1802
01:22:51,160 --> 01:22:53,800
Speaker 4: former One Direction member for his privilege and issued a

1803
01:22:53,840 --> 01:22:54,719
Speaker 4: sincere apology.

1804
01:22:56,520 --> 01:22:58,400
Speaker 5: Uh wow.

1805
01:23:00,120 --> 01:23:02,519
Speaker 8: Direction due to huh ain't got a boy band?

1806
01:23:02,760 --> 01:23:04,599
Speaker 5: It was yeah, he zan left.

1807
01:23:04,800 --> 01:23:08,600
Speaker 4: Zane left last year to be a solo artist, so

1808
01:23:09,080 --> 01:23:10,719
Speaker 4: you know, maybe she got beef there.

1809
01:23:12,600 --> 01:23:13,000
Speaker 5: Anyway.

1810
01:23:13,000 --> 01:23:16,519
Speaker 4: Credit Union responds to a post from Angel Ramirez Jordan

1811
01:23:16,600 --> 01:23:20,240
Speaker 4: to her on her Instagram page May twelve. The Harlem

1812
01:23:20,320 --> 01:23:24,040
Speaker 4: Rapper says she was not blaming anyone or anything for

1813
01:23:24,160 --> 01:23:27,479
Speaker 4: any of my actions, but music industry mirrors the racism

1814
01:23:27,479 --> 01:23:30,880
Speaker 4: black people encounter in daily society, and it allows people

1815
01:23:31,000 --> 01:23:34,040
Speaker 4: like Zane to hide behind his popularity amongst white folk

1816
01:23:34,479 --> 01:23:37,360
Speaker 4: when he himself is aiding in the work of white supremacy,

1817
01:23:37,560 --> 01:23:41,639
Speaker 4: cultural erasure, and another instance of a white artist taking

1818
01:23:41,640 --> 01:23:44,360
Speaker 4: credit for the black artist's hard work and passion. And truthfully,

1819
01:23:44,600 --> 01:23:48,200
Speaker 4: it's pushing me over a fucking edge. And then she

1820
01:23:48,280 --> 01:23:51,639
Speaker 4: also said him using her visuals without credit is hurtful.

1821
01:23:53,160 --> 01:23:57,000
Speaker 5: But Zane isn't white. He No, he's I believe he's

1822
01:23:57,280 --> 01:24:00,200
Speaker 5: Middle Eastern. That's what I thought, Okay, making sure I'm

1823
01:24:00,200 --> 01:24:00,600
Speaker 5: thinking of the.

1824
01:24:00,640 --> 01:24:05,000
Speaker 4: Right Well, he's white, conveniently for her criticism, Okay, I

1825
01:24:05,040 --> 01:24:08,719
Speaker 4: will say this man, Azelia Banks is like the perfect

1826
01:24:08,760 --> 01:24:14,280
Speaker 4: example of what happens when you learn enough buzzwords to

1827
01:24:14,320 --> 01:24:18,000
Speaker 4: be dangerous where it's just like, I just want to

1828
01:24:18,040 --> 01:24:22,400
Speaker 4: be the most the center of attention by accusing everybody

1829
01:24:22,439 --> 01:24:26,000
Speaker 4: of everything, and you're just like, but your critiques don't

1830
01:24:26,040 --> 01:24:28,040
Speaker 4: even make sense and you participate in most of the

1831
01:24:28,080 --> 01:24:31,920
Speaker 4: shit that you talk about, So like, where's your credibility?

1832
01:24:32,120 --> 01:24:37,240
Speaker 4: You know the boy who cried wolf? Even so yeah,

1833
01:24:37,280 --> 01:24:44,240
Speaker 4: this dude. Angel Ramirez Jordan wrote her on Instagram, Dear Daffodil,

1834
01:24:44,720 --> 01:24:47,720
Speaker 4: You're my sister, so I'm not going to throw you

1835
01:24:47,840 --> 01:24:49,360
Speaker 4: under a bus or disrespect you.

1836
01:24:49,800 --> 01:24:52,360
Speaker 5: We all have Why do people keep trying to reason

1837
01:24:52,400 --> 01:24:53,160
Speaker 5: with her? Anyway?

1838
01:24:54,240 --> 01:24:56,880
Speaker 4: We all have our reasons for saying certain things and

1839
01:24:56,920 --> 01:24:59,240
Speaker 4: doing certain actions. I'm a great believer of people having

1840
01:24:59,240 --> 01:25:02,360
Speaker 4: a method of their their madness. I see you as

1841
01:25:02,520 --> 01:25:05,800
Speaker 4: one of our warrior queens who has the potential to

1842
01:25:05,840 --> 01:25:08,160
Speaker 4: reach and teach so many people. I absolutely love your

1843
01:25:08,200 --> 01:25:11,599
Speaker 4: fire and passion with addressing injustices and massage no war

1844
01:25:11,960 --> 01:25:15,479
Speaker 4: within our community. You are a beautiful, very talented black

1845
01:25:15,560 --> 01:25:20,200
Speaker 4: queen which is in caps. But you're letting your frustration

1846
01:25:20,320 --> 01:25:23,200
Speaker 4: turn you into something ugly. Believe me, I know you're

1847
01:25:23,280 --> 01:25:25,760
Speaker 4: in pain, but you allowing this hurt to control you

1848
01:25:25,840 --> 01:25:28,600
Speaker 4: and make you angry and hateful. I don't think you

1849
01:25:28,680 --> 01:25:30,640
Speaker 4: are a bad person at all. I simply think that

1850
01:25:30,720 --> 01:25:34,400
Speaker 4: you have lost direction and purpose. You're channeling this frustration

1851
01:25:34,479 --> 01:25:36,320
Speaker 4: the wrong way and also aiming at the wrong people.

1852
01:25:36,360 --> 01:25:38,360
Speaker 4: Let's not judge our sister and exclude her because we

1853
01:25:38,439 --> 01:25:41,439
Speaker 4: disagree with her actions. Sometimes we are too quick to

1854
01:25:41,479 --> 01:25:44,200
Speaker 4: throw our people out with the trash instead of trying

1855
01:25:44,200 --> 01:25:46,840
Speaker 4: to help them and to understand what their reasoning may be.

1856
01:25:48,160 --> 01:25:50,160
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't think you can make that argument

1857
01:25:50,200 --> 01:25:54,240
Speaker 4: for her. People have been extremely patient. This is a

1858
01:25:54,280 --> 01:25:56,120
Speaker 4: long gas trend of shit at this point.

1859
01:25:56,560 --> 01:25:59,000
Speaker 3: I mean, I think that you could have a conversation

1860
01:25:59,120 --> 01:26:02,599
Speaker 3: about it being interesting. She's banned from Twitter, but Donald

1861
01:26:02,640 --> 01:26:04,680
Speaker 3: Trump can say whatever racist stuff he wants and he

1862
01:26:04,720 --> 01:26:05,439
Speaker 3: doesn't get banned.

1863
01:26:05,439 --> 01:26:06,920
Speaker 5: That's a conversation that can be had.

1864
01:26:07,120 --> 01:26:09,360
Speaker 3: But it doesn't excuse her behavior, nor does it set

1865
01:26:09,439 --> 01:26:12,679
Speaker 3: up some scenario with which black people have been throwing

1866
01:26:12,720 --> 01:26:15,720
Speaker 3: away Azalea Banks, when in reality, I've seen nothing but

1867
01:26:15,880 --> 01:26:16,320
Speaker 3: black people.

1868
01:26:16,400 --> 01:26:18,800
Speaker 5: She's directly like, offended and harmed.

1869
01:26:18,880 --> 01:26:21,800
Speaker 3: Reach out to her, try and talk to her and

1870
01:26:22,160 --> 01:26:24,559
Speaker 3: come at this from a place of love.

1871
01:26:24,680 --> 01:26:26,080
Speaker 5: And wanting to understand.

1872
01:26:26,760 --> 01:26:31,000
Speaker 3: And I also don't think that believing that she is

1873
01:26:31,040 --> 01:26:34,559
Speaker 3: truly hurt about something doesn't mean that you don't believe

1874
01:26:34,600 --> 01:26:36,599
Speaker 3: the people that she's hurt at the same time, Like

1875
01:26:36,640 --> 01:26:37,799
Speaker 3: those two things can.

1876
01:26:37,760 --> 01:26:40,160
Speaker 5: Exist all together at.

1877
01:26:40,080 --> 01:26:42,920
Speaker 3: The same time with a lot of different people and

1878
01:26:43,400 --> 01:26:44,840
Speaker 3: consequences or consequences.

1879
01:26:44,840 --> 01:26:47,280
Speaker 5: It actually reminds me of where you're here.

1880
01:26:48,640 --> 01:26:53,280
Speaker 3: People say, like, oh, I if a black man assaults

1881
01:26:53,320 --> 01:26:55,479
Speaker 3: or hurts a black woman that you know, don't call

1882
01:26:55,520 --> 01:26:59,040
Speaker 3: the police. We don't want to put our brothers in jail,

1883
01:26:59,080 --> 01:27:02,599
Speaker 3: We don't want to put them into the system that's

1884
01:27:02,600 --> 01:27:04,600
Speaker 3: so racist and unfair to them. And all of that

1885
01:27:04,840 --> 01:27:08,800
Speaker 3: is true, but that doesn't negate the safety that needs

1886
01:27:08,800 --> 01:27:11,960
Speaker 3: to exist for black women. So it just does a

1887
01:27:12,040 --> 01:27:14,280
Speaker 3: whole water with me. Doesn't make any sense at all.

1888
01:27:14,720 --> 01:27:14,960
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1889
01:27:15,040 --> 01:27:20,439
Speaker 4: Also, the way my petty is set up, she's just

1890
01:27:20,479 --> 01:27:23,200
Speaker 4: not the person I'm fighting that calls for like I'm sorry,

1891
01:27:23,240 --> 01:27:26,040
Speaker 4: Like it's like, uh and and I'm the same way

1892
01:27:26,040 --> 01:27:28,640
Speaker 4: when people bring up Bill Cosby and black celebrity and

1893
01:27:28,680 --> 01:27:31,880
Speaker 4: how black men don't get to be the same type

1894
01:27:31,920 --> 01:27:35,040
Speaker 4: of sexual criminals that white dudes get to be. And

1895
01:27:35,080 --> 01:27:37,160
Speaker 4: I'm just like yeah, this is not my I'm not

1896
01:27:37,160 --> 01:27:40,400
Speaker 4: fighting for equal rights on this one. I'm sorry, y'all

1897
01:27:40,439 --> 01:27:43,680
Speaker 4: can do that. Not gonna stop anybody. But when you

1898
01:27:43,720 --> 01:27:45,360
Speaker 4: bring it up to me, I'm just like, yeah, not

1899
01:27:45,439 --> 01:27:46,519
Speaker 4: the person I'm fighting for.

1900
01:27:46,680 --> 01:27:47,599
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's fucked up.

1901
01:27:47,640 --> 01:27:50,519
Speaker 4: I want all those pieces of shit off of the

1902
01:27:50,600 --> 01:27:55,160
Speaker 4: Internet as well. But uh yeah, the fact that they

1903
01:27:55,240 --> 01:27:57,559
Speaker 4: tell her not some other dude, Yeah, that sucks.

1904
01:27:57,960 --> 01:27:58,479
Speaker 5: That sucks.

1905
01:27:59,040 --> 01:27:59,160
Speaker 4: Uh.

1906
01:27:59,640 --> 01:28:01,240
Speaker 5: But she's also Twitter.

1907
01:28:01,400 --> 01:28:04,360
Speaker 3: I mean people try to wait Twitter like it's free

1908
01:28:04,400 --> 01:28:06,519
Speaker 3: speech and now you can't say anything and your life

1909
01:28:06,560 --> 01:28:06,880
Speaker 3: is over.

1910
01:28:07,000 --> 01:28:09,880
Speaker 5: It's like, but it's Twitter, and like it's okay.

1911
01:28:10,120 --> 01:28:12,559
Speaker 4: Yeah, And the some of the shit she said to him,

1912
01:28:12,760 --> 01:28:16,360
Speaker 4: I mean, I just I don't get it, Like I

1913
01:28:16,360 --> 01:28:18,760
Speaker 4: don't see how anybody walks away going no, it's really

1914
01:28:18,760 --> 01:28:19,960
Speaker 4: about her pain, and I'm like.

1915
01:28:20,040 --> 01:28:22,439
Speaker 5: Dog, she's calm, dude. A terrorists.

1916
01:28:22,479 --> 01:28:26,120
Speaker 4: She called them all sorts of sexual slurs, all sorts

1917
01:28:26,160 --> 01:28:31,400
Speaker 4: of racist slurs about Muslim people, like nah, man, like

1918
01:28:31,560 --> 01:28:34,960
Speaker 4: we stop. We don't have to defend everybody because they black.

1919
01:28:35,800 --> 01:28:37,160
Speaker 4: You know, we don't have to jump in front of

1920
01:28:37,200 --> 01:28:40,080
Speaker 4: every bullet because it's a black person that is the

1921
01:28:40,160 --> 01:28:42,320
Speaker 4: target of that. Like sometimes it's okay to be like

1922
01:28:43,080 --> 01:28:45,800
Speaker 4: this black person completely has earned the disdain of a

1923
01:28:45,840 --> 01:28:49,439
Speaker 4: lot of people. And I'm not saying anything else needs

1924
01:28:49,439 --> 01:28:52,280
Speaker 4: to happen to her. I'm just saying I understand why

1925
01:28:52,280 --> 01:28:53,919
Speaker 4: people are like, I don't fuck with you anymore.

1926
01:28:54,320 --> 01:28:55,280
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1927
01:28:55,520 --> 01:28:58,120
Speaker 3: My grandmother always used to say that everybody's invited in

1928
01:28:58,160 --> 01:29:00,240
Speaker 3: the room, but you have to earn your seat at

1929
01:29:00,240 --> 01:29:03,000
Speaker 3: the table. And that's how I feel about zel y'all, Like, yeah,

1930
01:29:03,040 --> 01:29:05,800
Speaker 3: she's here. I'm not gonna be like I'm never looking

1931
01:29:05,840 --> 01:29:07,880
Speaker 3: at her again and banish her from the earth. But

1932
01:29:08,000 --> 01:29:09,800
Speaker 3: she just hasn't earned the seat here to talk to

1933
01:29:09,880 --> 01:29:12,080
Speaker 3: us and to interact with us. Yeah, I've never kicked

1934
01:29:12,080 --> 01:29:15,960
Speaker 3: it anywhere, right, I've never kicked anybody out of blackness. Like,

1935
01:29:15,960 --> 01:29:17,720
Speaker 3: I don't even really know what that means. I don't

1936
01:29:17,720 --> 01:29:20,240
Speaker 3: think anybody actually does get kicked out of blackness.

1937
01:29:20,280 --> 01:29:21,160
Speaker 5: I think we say that.

1938
01:29:21,760 --> 01:29:23,599
Speaker 4: What happens is, I think people say that when they

1939
01:29:23,600 --> 01:29:26,599
Speaker 4: want to lend a sympathetic ear to a certain person.

1940
01:29:26,600 --> 01:29:29,120
Speaker 4: It's like, we don't kick so and so out of blackness, Like, wait,

1941
01:29:29,479 --> 01:29:31,240
Speaker 4: who says that we know that person's black?

1942
01:29:31,320 --> 01:29:31,479
Speaker 5: Right?

1943
01:29:32,160 --> 01:29:34,120
Speaker 4: Like if that person, like even the people you were

1944
01:29:34,240 --> 01:29:37,519
Speaker 4: vow there's no like you just if you have to

1945
01:29:37,520 --> 01:29:40,080
Speaker 4: take a fucking lot of detective test, there's nobody that's

1946
01:29:40,080 --> 01:29:42,280
Speaker 4: gonna be like Jason Woodlock is not black and past

1947
01:29:42,320 --> 01:29:44,160
Speaker 4: that shit. Yes you know he's black. That's why you're

1948
01:29:44,160 --> 01:29:47,120
Speaker 4: offended by his point of view, right, like NIGGI you black?

1949
01:29:47,160 --> 01:29:48,120
Speaker 5: How can you think like.

1950
01:29:48,080 --> 01:29:50,080
Speaker 4: This like that is why we get mad at dn

1951
01:29:50,120 --> 01:29:53,240
Speaker 4: Lemon and shit like that. So kicking somebody out of blackness,

1952
01:29:53,240 --> 01:29:55,920
Speaker 4: I think is really just people going don't have a

1953
01:29:55,960 --> 01:29:58,200
Speaker 4: negative opinion of this person, and it's like, well that

1954
01:29:58,600 --> 01:30:00,880
Speaker 4: we're not the people to talk to about that.

1955
01:30:00,880 --> 01:30:03,759
Speaker 3: I might click kick Clarence Thomas oiute of blackness.

1956
01:30:03,760 --> 01:30:04,559
Speaker 5: He doesn't want to.

1957
01:30:06,560 --> 01:30:08,680
Speaker 4: Even Clarence Thomas, you wouldn't pass a lot to take

1958
01:30:08,720 --> 01:30:11,160
Speaker 4: the test. I want him going, but it's not gonna

1959
01:30:11,160 --> 01:30:12,400
Speaker 4: have it. It's not gonna have it.

1960
01:30:12,840 --> 01:30:14,360
Speaker 5: I believe, I believe strongly.

1961
01:30:14,680 --> 01:30:17,320
Speaker 4: We have to we just we have to take some

1962
01:30:17,479 --> 01:30:20,200
Speaker 4: uh take some uh takes some learn how to trick

1963
01:30:20,240 --> 01:30:23,720
Speaker 4: that test, you know, but uh but yeah, I mean

1964
01:30:23,800 --> 01:30:26,719
Speaker 4: it's but that's why it's so offensive because Khalia said

1965
01:30:26,720 --> 01:30:29,240
Speaker 4: the same ship. You know what I'm saying, Like it's

1966
01:30:29,280 --> 01:30:31,960
Speaker 4: a fit, but it's more offensive because we're like, you

1967
01:30:32,080 --> 01:30:34,679
Speaker 4: know what the black experience is, and you still chose

1968
01:30:34,720 --> 01:30:36,120
Speaker 4: to be this way, you know.

1969
01:30:36,320 --> 01:30:38,160
Speaker 5: And anyway, So anyway.

1970
01:30:38,280 --> 01:30:41,920
Speaker 4: Azelia basically said she apologizes and ship and then later

1971
01:30:42,000 --> 01:30:48,200
Speaker 4: on she calls, uh, she calls Scott Jackson a coon

1972
01:30:48,280 --> 01:30:48,839
Speaker 4: in training.

1973
01:30:49,240 --> 01:30:49,519
Speaker 5: Uh.

1974
01:30:49,600 --> 01:30:54,240
Speaker 4: So that lasted all of a couple of hours before

1975
01:30:54,400 --> 01:30:58,320
Speaker 4: she uh flipped out. Uh And she had like a

1976
01:30:58,400 --> 01:31:04,160
Speaker 4: sincere quote unquote apology at first, but she took it back.

1977
01:31:05,080 --> 01:31:08,000
Speaker 3: So anyway, she did that with lemonade too. She loved

1978
01:31:08,080 --> 01:31:09,760
Speaker 3: lemonade and then it was the worst thing that she'd

1979
01:31:09,800 --> 01:31:10,320
Speaker 3: ever heard of.

1980
01:31:10,479 --> 01:31:14,639
Speaker 7: So yeah, she didn't yep, so zero to one hundred

1981
01:31:14,680 --> 01:31:17,360
Speaker 7: care Oh she always get a hundred.

1982
01:31:17,640 --> 01:31:18,559
Speaker 5: All right, what.

1983
01:31:18,600 --> 01:31:24,400
Speaker 3: About you, Leslie, I'm gonna give it, uh seventy five.

1984
01:31:24,720 --> 01:31:26,000
Speaker 5: There you go. What about you, Drew?

1985
01:31:26,840 --> 01:31:27,560
Speaker 6: I abstain.

1986
01:31:28,120 --> 01:31:28,400
Speaker 4: I don't.

1987
01:31:28,400 --> 01:31:28,679
Speaker 6: I don't.

1988
01:31:28,880 --> 01:31:29,160
Speaker 5: I don't.

1989
01:31:29,320 --> 01:31:32,040
Speaker 6: I don't feel I'm not black, so I can't. I

1990
01:31:32,040 --> 01:31:32,840
Speaker 6: can't give a number.

1991
01:31:33,160 --> 01:31:33,760
Speaker 5: I'm gonna give it.

1992
01:31:33,760 --> 01:31:36,960
Speaker 4: I'm gonna give it one hundred and uh, you know,

1993
01:31:37,479 --> 01:31:39,640
Speaker 4: hopefully we can get more racist people and ship off of.

1994
01:31:39,640 --> 01:31:41,040
Speaker 5: Twitter as well. I don't think.

1995
01:31:41,800 --> 01:31:42,240
Speaker 8: I don't think.

1996
01:31:43,040 --> 01:31:45,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, she definitely ain't the only person that says some

1997
01:31:45,120 --> 01:31:45,559
Speaker 5: funck shit.

1998
01:31:46,040 --> 01:31:50,760
Speaker 2: Nope, that wasn't even the most fun ship said that

1999
01:31:50,880 --> 01:31:53,960
Speaker 2: like half a minute, like honest to god, like the

2000
01:31:54,040 --> 01:31:55,559
Speaker 2: number of people that are on Twitter and.

2001
01:31:55,600 --> 01:31:57,240
Speaker 6: Like when I say on Twitter like.

2002
01:31:57,720 --> 01:32:00,040
Speaker 2: Like maybe like I don't like what you successful, A

2003
01:32:00,080 --> 01:32:01,439
Speaker 2: lot of people don't get told.

2004
01:32:01,520 --> 01:32:03,520
Speaker 6: Like there's like like really.

2005
01:32:03,200 --> 01:32:07,960
Speaker 2: Like vile, like horrible, like like really hardcore violent, like

2006
01:32:07,960 --> 01:32:11,080
Speaker 2: white supremacists like really like kill all the fight, like

2007
01:32:11,160 --> 01:32:13,640
Speaker 2: just they're not like bad. They're like the worst of

2008
01:32:13,720 --> 01:32:16,080
Speaker 2: the bottom of the worst, like four Chan like eight

2009
01:32:16,120 --> 01:32:18,599
Speaker 2: fucking like the worst thing alive worse, and they're on.

2010
01:32:18,520 --> 01:32:19,120
Speaker 5: Twitter all the time.

2011
01:32:19,120 --> 01:32:20,000
Speaker 6: They'll get blocked for shit.

2012
01:32:20,000 --> 01:32:22,719
Speaker 2: They don't get fucking put down or fucking not allowed

2013
01:32:22,760 --> 01:32:23,519
Speaker 2: to fucking harass.

2014
01:32:23,520 --> 01:32:24,599
Speaker 5: They're they're all day.

2015
01:32:25,000 --> 01:32:27,599
Speaker 4: Yeah, and some of them like know how to code

2016
01:32:27,640 --> 01:32:31,679
Speaker 4: switch and shit, because like some of the comparisons are

2017
01:32:32,120 --> 01:32:35,439
Speaker 4: like you know, Leslie brought up Trump. You know people

2018
01:32:35,439 --> 01:32:37,960
Speaker 4: bring up like a coach or jailp black shit. They're

2019
01:32:38,040 --> 01:32:42,240
Speaker 4: way smart in banks, like unfortunately banks went straight at

2020
01:32:42,280 --> 01:32:46,160
Speaker 4: the These are the words you can't say, and once

2021
01:32:46,200 --> 01:32:48,639
Speaker 4: you do that, you make it easy because people have

2022
01:32:48,680 --> 01:32:51,599
Speaker 4: such a black and white on zero tolerance that they're

2023
01:32:51,640 --> 01:32:53,920
Speaker 4: just like, oh, okay said to f work, they gotta go.

2024
01:32:54,360 --> 01:32:57,040
Speaker 5: There's no but but like if you don't say.

2025
01:32:56,880 --> 01:33:02,080
Speaker 4: That, but you say, uh, if you said queer instead

2026
01:33:02,080 --> 01:33:06,040
Speaker 4: of fag, that person gets to stay. But you said

2027
01:33:06,080 --> 01:33:09,240
Speaker 4: the same hateful sentiment, you say the same you just

2028
01:33:09,280 --> 01:33:10,519
Speaker 4: said the same thing.

2029
01:33:10,960 --> 01:33:13,559
Speaker 5: Switched one word, and you get to stay, you know.

2030
01:33:14,000 --> 01:33:17,519
Speaker 4: And coach talks about Muslims constantly, negative things.

2031
01:33:18,040 --> 01:33:20,000
Speaker 5: She gets to stay because she doesn't come out and

2032
01:33:20,040 --> 01:33:22,120
Speaker 5: call them. I think Ozia Bank.

2033
01:33:21,960 --> 01:33:26,120
Speaker 4: Said poon jabs and terrorists and shit like you just

2034
01:33:26,320 --> 01:33:28,560
Speaker 4: that's why they get to stay, because they play it

2035
01:33:28,880 --> 01:33:34,040
Speaker 4: one inch closely to the line than she did. That's it, right,

2036
01:33:34,040 --> 01:33:37,880
Speaker 4: it's a racial slur. Oh okay, so you know, but yeah,

2037
01:33:38,040 --> 01:33:40,519
Speaker 4: and that's what happens. And so she got her ass

2038
01:33:40,560 --> 01:33:42,439
Speaker 4: up out of there. But uh yeah, it should be

2039
01:33:42,439 --> 01:33:44,080
Speaker 4: a she should be the first of a long list

2040
01:33:44,080 --> 01:33:44,880
Speaker 4: of motherfuckers to go.

2041
01:33:45,080 --> 01:33:46,479
Speaker 5: I don't know, it shouldn't start with her.

2042
01:33:48,280 --> 01:33:51,400
Speaker 4: All right, Let's see what else happened that we want

2043
01:33:51,439 --> 01:33:55,960
Speaker 4: to talk about racially. Oh, here's one I thought this

2044
01:33:56,000 --> 01:34:01,920
Speaker 4: is an interesting one. Go read nigger Seattle University humanities dean.

2045
01:34:01,960 --> 01:34:05,200
Speaker 4: He told a black student who complained about the curriculum, Now,

2046
01:34:05,400 --> 01:34:08,080
Speaker 4: nigger isn't quotes because nigger is the title of a book.

2047
01:34:09,040 --> 01:34:12,720
Speaker 4: So she wasn't calling that person ain't nigger necessarily, but

2048
01:34:12,800 --> 01:34:14,479
Speaker 4: she was saying to go read this book. When a

2049
01:34:14,479 --> 01:34:18,840
Speaker 4: black student at Seattle University, Matteo, received Oriki College as

2050
01:34:19,040 --> 01:34:22,080
Speaker 4: dean jo Dy Kelly for a more diversified curriculum, the

2051
01:34:22,320 --> 01:34:24,760
Speaker 4: dean responded by plucking a book from her shelf and

2052
01:34:24,840 --> 01:34:27,759
Speaker 4: suggesting the student read it. The book was Nigger, published

2053
01:34:27,760 --> 01:34:30,960
Speaker 4: in nineteen sixty four by comedian and activist Dick Gregory.

2054
01:34:31,560 --> 01:34:33,479
Speaker 4: The student, who asked not to be named, shared her

2055
01:34:33,479 --> 01:34:36,519
Speaker 4: account of an incident on Thursday, after university president Stephen

2056
01:34:36,640 --> 01:34:41,040
Speaker 4: Sunberg Sunboards pleaded with a group of students occupying the

2057
01:34:41,040 --> 01:34:43,960
Speaker 4: college to drop their demand that Kelly resigned. The occupation

2058
01:34:44,640 --> 01:34:48,120
Speaker 4: entered its third day on Friday. Man, this is like

2059
01:34:48,200 --> 01:34:51,160
Speaker 4: during exam time. These students don't give a fuck.

2060
01:34:51,240 --> 01:34:53,920
Speaker 5: Man, These young people are too woke.

2061
01:34:54,320 --> 01:34:56,320
Speaker 4: They way too old. My black ass would have been

2062
01:34:56,320 --> 01:35:00,320
Speaker 4: in class they're so woke. I would I would have

2063
01:35:00,360 --> 01:35:03,920
Speaker 4: been so active. Oh man, I got a class y'all.

2064
01:35:03,960 --> 01:35:07,040
Speaker 4: I got I know I need this final though. I

2065
01:35:07,080 --> 01:35:08,920
Speaker 4: need to be cause somebody hold my spot at the

2066
01:35:09,000 --> 01:35:09,320
Speaker 4: City In.

2067
01:35:09,680 --> 01:35:10,760
Speaker 8: I'll be back after this.

2068
01:35:11,240 --> 01:35:13,160
Speaker 5: To be like I'm gonna run to the Chicken Shack.

2069
01:35:13,320 --> 01:35:18,040
Speaker 5: I'll be back anybody, won't. Y'all need like I want

2070
01:35:18,080 --> 01:35:21,200
Speaker 5: to take some orders, you know, Like the line was

2071
01:35:21,240 --> 01:35:23,759
Speaker 5: so long. It took exactly as long as my last class.

2072
01:35:24,240 --> 01:35:28,320
Speaker 4: I'll be arriving to the City In on Lauryn Hill

2073
01:35:28,360 --> 01:35:31,800
Speaker 4: time and ship. Oh man, we was doing that too.

2074
01:35:31,840 --> 01:35:35,760
Speaker 4: I was like, oh damn, y'all already being maceed. Oh

2075
01:35:36,160 --> 01:35:38,960
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, Yeah, why y'all?

2076
01:35:38,960 --> 01:35:41,400
Speaker 5: So mad Ener Jesus was keeping me away from here

2077
01:35:41,439 --> 01:35:46,000
Speaker 5: for some reason. Got to get in alignment. So uh yeah,

2078
01:35:46,000 --> 01:35:47,559
Speaker 5: he's prayed that some boards.

2079
01:35:47,960 --> 01:35:51,880
Speaker 4: Uh the who is not the person who who said it,

2080
01:35:52,280 --> 01:35:57,439
Speaker 4: but he is the university president. He sat with the group,

2081
01:35:57,479 --> 01:35:59,479
Speaker 4: praised the students for the activism and said they had

2082
01:35:59,479 --> 01:36:02,640
Speaker 4: helped open to internalize racism, but he insisted that they

2083
01:36:02,640 --> 01:36:05,080
Speaker 4: were taking a wrong approach by asking for Kelly to resign.

2084
01:36:05,920 --> 01:36:08,040
Speaker 4: I do not believe the demanding the resignation of the

2085
01:36:08,080 --> 01:36:11,799
Speaker 4: dean is a way to attempting to address racism together.

2086
01:36:11,880 --> 01:36:15,080
Speaker 4: It sets up in opposition. An African American student at

2087
01:36:15,080 --> 01:36:17,240
Speaker 4: the college spoke in response. She said she met last

2088
01:36:17,240 --> 01:36:19,839
Speaker 4: spring with Kelly to ask for a more diverse, culturally

2089
01:36:19,880 --> 01:36:22,960
Speaker 4: responsive curriculum, and response, Kelly used the N word. She

2090
01:36:23,000 --> 01:36:26,000
Speaker 4: said it three or four times, the full word, and

2091
01:36:26,080 --> 01:36:28,759
Speaker 4: the students telling dean. Kelly said the student could reclaim

2092
01:36:28,880 --> 01:36:31,719
Speaker 4: the word if she wanted, citing the black commedian's comments, Oh,

2093
01:36:31,720 --> 01:36:35,639
Speaker 4: come on, sir, you can't. You can't be a white

2094
01:36:35,640 --> 01:36:40,439
Speaker 4: person saying doubt. Listen, I was listening to Chris Rock. Okay,

2095
01:36:41,040 --> 01:36:46,120
Speaker 4: and here's my take on the N word. I was

2096
01:36:46,160 --> 01:36:50,519
Speaker 4: watching comic view right. And the student said.

2097
01:36:50,360 --> 01:36:51,960
Speaker 5: She broke down at the meeting with the dean.

2098
01:36:52,080 --> 01:36:54,200
Speaker 4: I did not go to class, she said the Sunborg

2099
01:36:54,640 --> 01:36:57,960
Speaker 4: and then Simil protesters that that word still hers. It

2100
01:36:58,040 --> 01:37:00,000
Speaker 4: is not her place to tell me not to be offended.

2101
01:37:00,360 --> 01:37:02,320
Speaker 4: This woman needs to be removed. I'm worried about the

2102
01:37:02,360 --> 01:37:04,800
Speaker 4: students that come after me. I don't want this to

2103
01:37:04,840 --> 01:37:07,200
Speaker 4: be the reason she resigned, the student told me when

2104
01:37:07,240 --> 01:37:10,479
Speaker 4: I approached her after she spoke. Everyone has stories, but

2105
01:37:10,560 --> 01:37:14,559
Speaker 4: this was just too traumatic. Sonboard who didn't say anything

2106
01:37:14,600 --> 01:37:16,880
Speaker 4: as students applauded and comforted, the student left the room.

2107
01:37:17,120 --> 01:37:19,400
Speaker 4: The student said she felt overwhelmed and did not want

2108
01:37:19,439 --> 01:37:22,759
Speaker 4: to give her name. I emailed Kelly yesterday seeking comment.

2109
01:37:22,840 --> 01:37:25,479
Speaker 4: The dean confirmed the conversation took place, saying she referred

2110
01:37:25,479 --> 01:37:28,839
Speaker 4: to the student to the decades old book by Gregory.

2111
01:37:29,600 --> 01:37:31,880
Speaker 4: Pressed to clarify whether she said the word out loud

2112
01:37:31,880 --> 01:37:34,680
Speaker 4: when she spoke with the student, she was evasive, and

2113
01:37:34,680 --> 01:37:38,599
Speaker 4: they have the email exchange at the bottom. What she says.

2114
01:37:39,520 --> 01:37:42,040
Speaker 4: I remember speaking with the student about Dick Gregory's book

2115
01:37:42,040 --> 01:37:44,760
Speaker 4: by that title. Perhaps you know the work. I'm not

2116
01:37:44,800 --> 01:37:47,360
Speaker 4: in the habit of repeating titles, certainly not that one.

2117
01:37:47,439 --> 01:37:49,280
Speaker 4: But I did refer her to that book. Thanks for

2118
01:37:49,360 --> 01:37:52,320
Speaker 4: asking this, She says. I was unfamiliar with the book,

2119
01:37:52,400 --> 01:37:53,479
Speaker 4: but I just googled it.

2120
01:37:53,720 --> 01:37:54,839
Speaker 5: Thanks. I'm a little unclear.

2121
01:37:54,880 --> 01:37:56,920
Speaker 4: Are you saying you referred to her to the book

2122
01:37:57,160 --> 01:37:59,519
Speaker 4: but didn't say the title out loud When you did so,

2123
01:38:00,240 --> 01:38:02,599
Speaker 4: she said, the student asked for more diverse five reading.

2124
01:38:02,720 --> 01:38:05,040
Speaker 4: I complied and pulled a book for my shelf. The

2125
01:38:05,080 --> 01:38:07,120
Speaker 4: title is you know could startle So I relate the

2126
01:38:07,160 --> 01:38:10,640
Speaker 4: story of Dick Gregory explaining that to his maternal ancestors

2127
01:38:10,920 --> 01:38:13,439
Speaker 4: why he titled it that way. His response, dim, Mama,

2128
01:38:13,760 --> 01:38:17,240
Speaker 4: wherever you are, if ever you hear the word nigga again,

2129
01:38:17,560 --> 01:38:20,680
Speaker 4: remember they are advertising my book. I'm not in the

2130
01:38:20,760 --> 01:38:24,519
Speaker 4: habit of ever using the word. That word, mister hurts.

2131
01:38:24,560 --> 01:38:25,760
Speaker 4: I believe it demeans us all.

2132
01:38:26,080 --> 01:38:27,400
Speaker 6: She she's in.

2133
01:38:27,360 --> 01:38:29,160
Speaker 2: The habit of having about one hundred copies us of

2134
01:38:29,160 --> 01:38:31,759
Speaker 2: this book on that fucking bookshelf and different fucking covers

2135
01:38:31,760 --> 01:38:32,040
Speaker 2: and shit.

2136
01:38:32,160 --> 01:38:34,639
Speaker 5: You can just like she didn't say it. She didn't

2137
01:38:34,680 --> 01:38:35,320
Speaker 5: really tell it.

2138
01:38:35,560 --> 01:38:38,080
Speaker 6: She's kind of like I think you should read what if.

2139
01:38:37,960 --> 01:38:41,320
Speaker 4: She has nothing of racial slurs on her bookshelf so

2140
01:38:41,320 --> 01:38:42,639
Speaker 4: she can get away with saying it?

2141
01:38:42,760 --> 01:38:45,400
Speaker 5: You know, shelf full of shit? Right, It's like an

2142
01:38:45,400 --> 01:38:47,439
Speaker 5: Asian person comes in. Have you read.

2143
01:38:47,320 --> 01:38:49,400
Speaker 8: Chink in the Armor by Oh?

2144
01:38:49,479 --> 01:38:52,760
Speaker 4: No, no, no, you need to see what I'm staying. No, oh,

2145
01:38:53,800 --> 01:38:56,360
Speaker 4: I can't believe that person would leave anyway. Let me

2146
01:38:56,400 --> 01:38:59,160
Speaker 4: put this up back on the shelf next to Koon,

2147
01:39:00,040 --> 01:39:03,000
Speaker 4: right next to the you know, the seas go together.

2148
01:39:03,640 --> 01:39:06,719
Speaker 8: Have you heard Wick bad washing you this book before?

2149
01:39:07,120 --> 01:39:09,320
Speaker 4: Man, you really should read this. It's a good book

2150
01:39:09,360 --> 01:39:12,439
Speaker 4: by this comedian. You never heard of him. Don't worry

2151
01:39:12,479 --> 01:39:12,800
Speaker 4: about it.

2152
01:39:13,120 --> 01:39:15,439
Speaker 2: I really, I really think there's something here you could have,

2153
01:39:15,520 --> 01:39:18,920
Speaker 2: like a whole your own bookshelf with the Black book reviews, right,

2154
01:39:18,960 --> 01:39:19,880
Speaker 2: like you got me fucked up?

2155
01:39:20,040 --> 01:39:23,880
Speaker 5: Oh right, oh, just up, like you got me fucked up?

2156
01:39:24,160 --> 01:39:24,400
Speaker 6: Right?

2157
01:39:26,240 --> 01:39:29,439
Speaker 4: What are you talking about, right, Dean, I'm thinking about

2158
01:39:29,439 --> 01:39:31,360
Speaker 4: getting married. Oh hold on, it looks like you have

2159
01:39:32,200 --> 01:39:36,840
Speaker 4: main bitch dreams, but you got side extens so you

2160
01:39:36,920 --> 01:39:37,960
Speaker 4: might should read this.

2161
01:39:38,479 --> 01:39:40,439
Speaker 8: Uh, this might help you out.

2162
01:39:40,640 --> 01:39:46,240
Speaker 4: I didn't say just reading the titles reads this slick bitch.

2163
01:39:46,280 --> 01:39:47,760
Speaker 4: You know how many times she's done this to a

2164
01:39:47,760 --> 01:39:48,960
Speaker 4: black student in her office.

2165
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Speaker 5: It's like on the real this the.

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01:39:51,200 --> 01:39:53,800
Speaker 3: First time she got to pull that fucking little gem

2167
01:39:53,840 --> 01:39:54,479
Speaker 3: off the shelf.

2168
01:39:54,920 --> 01:39:56,800
Speaker 5: It's in a way it.

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01:39:56,840 --> 01:40:02,400
Speaker 4: Is such great racism because it's the plausible deniability of

2170
01:40:02,439 --> 01:40:05,320
Speaker 4: it all is just like that is the best plausible

2171
01:40:05,360 --> 01:40:08,920
Speaker 4: deniability I've seen, and we've been doing this for years,

2172
01:40:08,960 --> 01:40:11,880
Speaker 4: like that is the best good. And you know her

2173
01:40:11,880 --> 01:40:14,840
Speaker 4: response that changed, like oh, evasiveness to know. I didn't

2174
01:40:14,880 --> 01:40:18,479
Speaker 4: say it out loud, with her making sure nobody heard her.

2175
01:40:18,760 --> 01:40:21,280
Speaker 3: She was like the secretary here, nobody heard. Oh I

2176
01:40:21,320 --> 01:40:23,559
Speaker 3: didn't say it, it's just being hurt. Oh oh no, no,

2177
01:40:23,600 --> 01:40:24,160
Speaker 3: I didn't say it.

2178
01:40:24,240 --> 01:40:24,360
Speaker 10: No.

2179
01:40:24,439 --> 01:40:27,599
Speaker 4: Well, I mean I explained what the book was and

2180
01:40:27,800 --> 01:40:29,080
Speaker 4: what his reason was.

2181
01:40:29,120 --> 01:40:30,479
Speaker 5: But I mean, come on.

2182
01:40:30,439 --> 01:40:34,160
Speaker 2: There's a cool little like Author's Linguistic double and tanda

2183
01:40:34,200 --> 01:40:36,240
Speaker 2: where someone just like, oh, you know, here's my book.

2184
01:40:36,280 --> 01:40:39,760
Speaker 2: It's a waste no time in reading your book? Right, Yeah,

2185
01:40:40,120 --> 01:40:41,640
Speaker 2: that's kind of what her She did is dude, It's like,

2186
01:40:42,000 --> 01:40:42,400
Speaker 2: was it.

2187
01:40:42,280 --> 01:40:43,080
Speaker 5: Really I don't know?

2188
01:40:43,120 --> 01:40:44,160
Speaker 6: It was like right on the line.

2189
01:40:44,200 --> 01:40:45,200
Speaker 5: It was pretty fucking good.

2190
01:40:45,640 --> 01:40:48,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like what was that character and the Tom Sawyer

2191
01:40:48,240 --> 01:40:51,599
Speaker 4: thing like Nigga Jim or whatever. Maybe this was like, oh, well,

2192
01:40:51,600 --> 01:40:53,760
Speaker 4: you know this, this story reminds me of my favorite character,

2193
01:40:53,840 --> 01:40:56,960
Speaker 4: Nigga Jim. Nigga Jim was really cool. You know, maybe

2194
01:40:57,040 --> 01:40:58,919
Speaker 4: you can get out of my office, Nigga Jim.

2195
01:41:00,520 --> 01:41:02,519
Speaker 5: Oh oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I don't know why

2196
01:41:02,560 --> 01:41:07,200
Speaker 5: you're crying. But yeah, she did not further explain.

2197
01:41:07,240 --> 01:41:09,280
Speaker 4: When the person asked directly, did you read the title

2198
01:41:09,280 --> 01:41:15,040
Speaker 4: out loud? She stopped responding, so referenced at any rate

2199
01:41:15,640 --> 01:41:16,599
Speaker 4: zero to one hundred.

2200
01:41:16,439 --> 01:41:22,519
Speaker 8: Care This actually made me laugh. I give it seventy five.

2201
01:41:22,520 --> 01:41:23,439
Speaker 5: All right, Leslie.

2202
01:41:24,120 --> 01:41:28,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I gotta give it like a fifty because it's

2203
01:41:28,800 --> 01:41:31,920
Speaker 3: it's genius. I don't know, there's a little bit of

2204
01:41:32,080 --> 01:41:34,799
Speaker 3: like a little you know, racist respect.

2205
01:41:35,040 --> 01:41:36,439
Speaker 5: I don't know. I'll give it fifty.

2206
01:41:36,479 --> 01:41:39,439
Speaker 4: Still fucked up, but yeah it does, Drew, are you

2207
01:41:39,720 --> 01:41:40,479
Speaker 4: upstating again?

2208
01:41:40,840 --> 01:41:42,800
Speaker 2: I feel qualified as the white person. Okay, I'm not

2209
01:41:42,960 --> 01:41:44,519
Speaker 2: fucked with in this category. I'm gonna give her a

2210
01:41:44,640 --> 01:41:47,320
Speaker 2: hundred because in my opinion, like that, just the word

2211
01:41:47,640 --> 01:41:51,160
Speaker 2: is like just you know, no, just in every form

2212
01:41:51,400 --> 01:41:56,559
Speaker 2: e R, A book, print point reference, say it no, no.

2213
01:41:56,000 --> 01:41:56,679
Speaker 5: No, Yeah.

2214
01:41:56,720 --> 01:41:59,559
Speaker 4: It really comes down to who you believe on this one,

2215
01:42:00,640 --> 01:42:04,200
Speaker 4: And I'm going to side with the black person because

2216
01:42:04,240 --> 01:42:10,560
Speaker 4: i feel like they know because like there's some situations

2217
01:42:10,600 --> 01:42:13,640
Speaker 4: where ship there's racis and it happens to me. But

2218
01:42:13,760 --> 01:42:16,120
Speaker 4: I know if I wrote it in a story, it

2219
01:42:16,160 --> 01:42:17,360
Speaker 4: wouldn't sound racist, and it.

2220
01:42:17,320 --> 01:42:19,000
Speaker 5: Wuld sound like I was complaining about nothing.

2221
01:42:20,000 --> 01:42:23,120
Speaker 4: So my thinking is that the way and an inflection

2222
01:42:23,240 --> 01:42:25,160
Speaker 4: in the tone she was saying that book and how

2223
01:42:25,240 --> 01:42:28,360
Speaker 4: many times she said it made the person be like

2224
01:42:28,560 --> 01:42:30,240
Speaker 4: this motherfucker's fucking with me.

2225
01:42:30,640 --> 01:42:34,640
Speaker 2: She like tapped her finger on like here read yeah,

2226
01:42:34,640 --> 01:42:37,120
Speaker 2: why don't you read nigger something?

2227
01:42:37,280 --> 01:42:39,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, it's just like a very it's kind

2228
01:42:39,160 --> 01:42:41,519
Speaker 4: of like when certain people say black, they say black

2229
01:42:41,520 --> 01:42:43,960
Speaker 4: in a way where they you're like, that's racist, but

2230
01:42:44,080 --> 01:42:46,080
Speaker 4: it's still just a word black. I mean, you know,

2231
01:42:46,200 --> 01:42:48,559
Speaker 4: It's like some people are like, oh, yeah, you know,

2232
01:42:48,640 --> 01:42:50,120
Speaker 4: I was talking to a black guy the other day

2233
01:42:50,120 --> 01:42:51,760
Speaker 4: and he said so, and then there's people was like,

2234
01:42:51,760 --> 01:42:55,360
Speaker 4: I was talking to a black guy and you're like, ah,

2235
01:42:55,479 --> 01:42:58,360
Speaker 4: you say it like that, you know, so I'm gonna

2236
01:42:58,360 --> 01:43:01,799
Speaker 4: give it a hundred. I feel like that's real clever racism,

2237
01:43:02,360 --> 01:43:04,240
Speaker 4: very very clever. I had that happened to me at

2238
01:43:04,240 --> 01:43:07,519
Speaker 4: the gym where the person giving out the towels, like

2239
01:43:07,680 --> 01:43:10,960
Speaker 4: instance that I'm checking my ID to see if we

2240
01:43:11,040 --> 01:43:13,360
Speaker 4: had towels on our account at the gym, and I

2241
01:43:13,479 --> 01:43:16,040
Speaker 4: was like, I've never seen them ask a single person

2242
01:43:16,160 --> 01:43:19,280
Speaker 4: ever in the history of ever if they had towel service,

2243
01:43:19,320 --> 01:43:21,920
Speaker 4: but somehow my black ass needs to prove if I

2244
01:43:21,960 --> 01:43:22,360
Speaker 4: do or I.

2245
01:43:22,280 --> 01:43:22,840
Speaker 5: Don't have it.

2246
01:43:23,280 --> 01:43:25,800
Speaker 3: And that's exactly one of those stories. Like if I

2247
01:43:25,880 --> 01:43:27,720
Speaker 3: just told what happened, well, then she asked me for ID,

2248
01:43:27,800 --> 01:43:29,280
Speaker 3: and it would be like, well, she can't ask you

2249
01:43:29,320 --> 01:43:30,960
Speaker 3: for ID, it's not that big a d. I'm like, yeah,

2250
01:43:30,960 --> 01:43:32,559
Speaker 3: but you didn't hear that bitch, and the way she

2251
01:43:32,600 --> 01:43:33,960
Speaker 3: said it to me and how she asked me for

2252
01:43:34,040 --> 01:43:36,160
Speaker 3: it was like, oh, I know your black ass doesn't

2253
01:43:36,200 --> 01:43:37,679
Speaker 3: have towel service, so let me see your id.

2254
01:43:37,800 --> 01:43:40,880
Speaker 4: Bitch really said to me, and you can literally sit

2255
01:43:40,920 --> 01:43:43,280
Speaker 4: there the rest of the day. And she not asked

2256
01:43:43,320 --> 01:43:46,479
Speaker 4: anybody else that, and people will still be like, yeah, Leslie,

2257
01:43:46,520 --> 01:43:49,920
Speaker 4: but I mean, come on, you might be being sensitive here.

2258
01:43:50,200 --> 01:43:53,920
Speaker 2: Honestly, the like knee jerk white reaction is to kind

2259
01:43:53,920 --> 01:43:56,519
Speaker 2: of like downplay it, like, Oh, it didn't happen like that,

2260
01:43:56,600 --> 01:43:58,599
Speaker 2: I think, right, I don't think it really was.

2261
01:43:58,640 --> 01:44:00,400
Speaker 6: Like that, And they didn't mean it like that.

2262
01:44:00,600 --> 01:44:02,400
Speaker 2: Maybe you heard it this way and I thought this

2263
01:44:02,400 --> 01:44:04,360
Speaker 2: this other time, and it's like I say, it's like

2264
01:44:04,360 --> 01:44:06,960
Speaker 2: a knee jerk. Like when she literally like this story

2265
01:44:07,000 --> 01:44:08,800
Speaker 2: she's talking about, she tells it to me, and my

2266
01:44:08,840 --> 01:44:11,360
Speaker 2: first response was literally like like, yeah, I'm not sure.

2267
01:44:11,360 --> 01:44:12,920
Speaker 5: I don't know if that's really that like racist.

2268
01:44:13,120 --> 01:44:15,200
Speaker 2: And it was maybe like four or five six hours later,

2269
01:44:15,240 --> 01:44:17,760
Speaker 2: she's relaying this story to someone else over the phone

2270
01:44:17,800 --> 01:44:19,920
Speaker 2: and I'm hearing it like third person. I was like, Oh,

2271
01:44:19,920 --> 01:44:21,760
Speaker 2: that sounds really fucked up, Like I had to go

2272
01:44:21,840 --> 01:44:22,880
Speaker 2: apologies like I'm sorry.

2273
01:44:22,880 --> 01:44:24,960
Speaker 6: I should have like, hey, like you're black and like

2274
01:44:25,000 --> 01:44:26,559
Speaker 6: my wife and I believe you, like I can't believe

2275
01:44:26,560 --> 01:44:27,000
Speaker 6: I got it you.

2276
01:44:27,160 --> 01:44:28,960
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Like if you say that felt racist, of

2277
01:44:29,000 --> 01:44:32,200
Speaker 2: course it felt racist, but my like the reaction to

2278
01:44:32,320 --> 01:44:34,800
Speaker 2: downplay it was so strong that was still like like, oh,

2279
01:44:34,840 --> 01:44:35,720
Speaker 2: I don't think it was like that.

2280
01:44:35,880 --> 01:44:37,920
Speaker 6: They don't mean it like that. Like my mind was

2281
01:44:37,960 --> 01:44:38,880
Speaker 6: like that's my gym too.

2282
01:44:39,320 --> 01:44:39,599
Speaker 8: Yeah.

2283
01:44:39,720 --> 01:44:41,320
Speaker 4: I think that happens with a lot of people in

2284
01:44:41,479 --> 01:44:45,519
Speaker 4: certain spaces that we have, right, Like, I know, when

2285
01:44:45,560 --> 01:44:48,400
Speaker 4: like a woman tells a man and a story, men

2286
01:44:48,479 --> 01:44:51,120
Speaker 4: are prompt to be like nah that, I mean, now,

2287
01:44:51,120 --> 01:44:52,200
Speaker 4: come on, what was he doing?

2288
01:44:52,439 --> 01:44:54,600
Speaker 8: I mean, everyone to explain the shit to right, it

2289
01:44:54,600 --> 01:44:54,760
Speaker 8: was you.

2290
01:44:54,800 --> 01:44:56,519
Speaker 5: Kind of like flirting with them or something. It's like,

2291
01:44:56,600 --> 01:44:57,320
Speaker 5: what the fuck?

2292
01:44:57,320 --> 01:44:59,080
Speaker 4: Why would I be telling you this story and leave

2293
01:44:59,120 --> 01:45:02,800
Speaker 4: that out like that don't even fucking makes sense. I

2294
01:45:02,800 --> 01:45:05,439
Speaker 4: wouldn't be complaining about it if I contributed to the ship.

2295
01:45:05,560 --> 01:45:08,760
Speaker 4: That's not even how this works. But uh, yeah, that

2296
01:45:08,800 --> 01:45:09,639
Speaker 4: happens all the time.

2297
01:45:09,680 --> 01:45:09,840
Speaker 10: Man.

2298
01:45:09,880 --> 01:45:11,840
Speaker 4: I think it is a gut response that you have

2299
01:45:11,920 --> 01:45:15,840
Speaker 4: to like fight against, you know. All right, let's play

2300
01:45:15,840 --> 01:45:16,960
Speaker 4: our other game here, guys.

2301
01:45:18,240 --> 01:45:22,679
Speaker 9: Now that is time for some guests the race. That's right,

2302
01:45:22,720 --> 01:45:27,400
Speaker 9: it's guess the race time. Now, that is time for

2303
01:45:27,479 --> 01:45:33,720
Speaker 9: some guests the race. That's right, it's guess the race time.

2304
01:45:34,040 --> 01:45:37,519
Speaker 4: That's right, It's time for guests The race. The number

2305
01:45:37,560 --> 01:45:39,559
Speaker 4: one game show going across all the podcasts. We read

2306
01:45:39,560 --> 01:45:41,400
Speaker 4: the play news argus from all over the globe, and

2307
01:45:41,439 --> 01:45:43,960
Speaker 4: we asked our contestants today, Drew and Leslie from the

2308
01:45:43,960 --> 01:45:47,960
Speaker 4: Interracial John, to guess the race. Send the chat room

2309
01:45:48,000 --> 01:45:51,120
Speaker 4: plays long and the chat room is race.

2310
01:45:51,360 --> 01:45:54,519
Speaker 5: Stay are racist as hell? Y'all? Sorry, but they won't

2311
01:45:54,600 --> 01:45:57,000
Speaker 5: leave all right?

2312
01:45:57,120 --> 01:46:01,120
Speaker 4: Story number one A blind ain't the man is caught

2313
01:46:01,240 --> 01:46:06,080
Speaker 4: driving and reading and committing disability fraud.

2314
01:46:07,240 --> 01:46:09,679
Speaker 8: Oh that's a lot happening in that sentence.

2315
01:46:10,080 --> 01:46:11,040
Speaker 5: H that's right.

2316
01:46:12,840 --> 01:46:20,680
Speaker 4: In his application for disability benefits, John Caltabiano claimed that

2317
01:46:20,760 --> 01:46:24,240
Speaker 4: he couldn't drive, cook for himself, exercise at the gym,

2318
01:46:24,360 --> 01:46:26,400
Speaker 4: or move around his house or even shade without help.

2319
01:46:27,120 --> 01:46:29,920
Speaker 4: The New York Man forty nine said he lost his

2320
01:46:30,040 --> 01:46:32,720
Speaker 4: site in a workplace accident at his company in two

2321
01:46:32,720 --> 01:46:35,639
Speaker 4: thousand and six, and since then he's bumped into things

2322
01:46:35,640 --> 01:46:38,960
Speaker 4: and hurt himself at home. I sit in the dark

2323
01:46:39,000 --> 01:46:42,400
Speaker 4: and listen to TV, he wrote on his application. On

2324
01:46:42,439 --> 01:46:45,160
Speaker 4: the day of his disability hearing in Hudson, New York,

2325
01:46:45,560 --> 01:46:50,040
Speaker 4: last fall, Caltabiano had his girlfriend lead him into the building.

2326
01:46:50,880 --> 01:46:53,240
Speaker 4: But what he didn't know was just a few days prior,

2327
01:46:53,280 --> 01:46:58,519
Speaker 4: investigators had Caltabiano on video appearing to be reading something.

2328
01:46:59,160 --> 01:47:02,320
Speaker 4: In another video, investigators had caught him driving a vehicle

2329
01:47:02,360 --> 01:47:04,200
Speaker 4: and then breaking in time to avoid hitting a.

2330
01:47:04,160 --> 01:47:05,280
Speaker 5: Woman in the childing street.

2331
01:47:06,479 --> 01:47:09,040
Speaker 4: Another video shot by investigators caught him holding the door

2332
01:47:09,080 --> 01:47:11,559
Speaker 4: open for someone. All unusual behavior, they said, for a

2333
01:47:11,560 --> 01:47:16,599
Speaker 4: person claiming to be blonde, Maybe he's their devil. A

2334
01:47:18,080 --> 01:47:21,400
Speaker 4: disability fraud is a big problem across the United States.

2335
01:47:21,479 --> 01:47:25,719
Speaker 4: Last year, the United States Solid Security Administration received ninety

2336
01:47:25,800 --> 01:47:29,920
Speaker 4: thousand allegations to investigate and also won twelve hundred convictions,

2337
01:47:29,920 --> 01:47:32,560
Speaker 4: a return two hundred and twenty five million dollars to

2338
01:47:32,600 --> 01:47:35,919
Speaker 4: taxpayers last year. When it comes to making an assessment

2339
01:47:35,960 --> 01:47:38,479
Speaker 4: of how many are out there, we know how much

2340
01:47:38,920 --> 01:47:41,000
Speaker 4: has been brought to our attention that we really rely

2341
01:47:41,120 --> 01:47:46,320
Speaker 4: on those fraud allegations, said Michael Robinson, who's the SSA

2342
01:47:46,400 --> 01:47:47,679
Speaker 4: Assistant Inspector General.

2343
01:47:48,520 --> 01:47:51,360
Speaker 5: So when a tip came in about cal Tabiano.

2344
01:47:51,960 --> 01:47:56,120
Speaker 4: US attorney Richard Hartunian at the Department of Justice and

2345
01:47:56,160 --> 01:47:59,519
Speaker 4: his counterparts at the Social Security Administration quickly started looking

2346
01:47:59,520 --> 01:48:02,320
Speaker 4: into it. The investigation found that he did lose sight

2347
01:48:02,439 --> 01:48:04,760
Speaker 4: in one eye in the workplace incident, but there was

2348
01:48:04,800 --> 01:48:07,080
Speaker 4: no indication that his other eye was affected.

2349
01:48:07,800 --> 01:48:10,320
Speaker 5: So it must have been like, so, how much for

2350
01:48:10,400 --> 01:48:11,000
Speaker 5: two hours?

2351
01:48:12,840 --> 01:48:13,880
Speaker 8: How much for the other one?

2352
01:48:14,320 --> 01:48:15,320
Speaker 6: It's a bigger chuck.

2353
01:48:15,520 --> 01:48:17,200
Speaker 5: I can make that work and I don't even have

2354
01:48:17,200 --> 01:48:18,240
Speaker 5: to come back to work again.

2355
01:48:18,560 --> 01:48:21,439
Speaker 2: Shit, absolutely, because if you were blinded, they would pay

2356
01:48:21,479 --> 01:48:23,120
Speaker 2: you your salary that you were earning for the rest

2357
01:48:23,160 --> 01:48:23,639
Speaker 2: of your life.

2358
01:48:23,680 --> 01:48:25,000
Speaker 6: Like it's a it's a big, like a.

2359
01:48:24,920 --> 01:48:27,799
Speaker 2: Big difference, but it's a substantial payout.

2360
01:48:27,920 --> 01:48:29,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, one eye. They might be like, well, come in,

2361
01:48:29,720 --> 01:48:31,120
Speaker 4: we'll see you on Monday, right, you.

2362
01:48:31,080 --> 01:48:35,280
Speaker 5: Know, for you Monday, just turn your hat, just.

2363
01:48:35,320 --> 01:48:38,280
Speaker 8: Swell, here's your pirate patch.

2364
01:48:38,320 --> 01:48:40,639
Speaker 4: Come on in right, give him a patch and put

2365
01:48:40,640 --> 01:48:44,200
Speaker 4: his ass back on the assembly line. Uh. Tabiano was

2366
01:48:44,240 --> 01:48:47,000
Speaker 4: on track to connect one point three million dollars in

2367
01:48:47,080 --> 01:48:50,559
Speaker 4: benefits before he was caught. H He was sentding in

2368
01:48:50,560 --> 01:48:54,360
Speaker 4: October twenty fifteen to almost five years in prison after

2369
01:48:54,400 --> 01:48:57,280
Speaker 4: being found guilty conspiracy to commit mail fraud, five council

2370
01:48:57,320 --> 01:49:00,200
Speaker 4: mail fraud, and theft of government property. His lawyers say

2371
01:49:00,240 --> 01:49:02,439
Speaker 4: he was appealing the case. His girlfriend is serving three

2372
01:49:02,479 --> 01:49:05,920
Speaker 4: years probation after being found guilty of fraudulently obtaining this

2373
01:49:06,000 --> 01:49:09,559
Speaker 4: federal and state disability to benefits. Damn she went down

2374
01:49:09,600 --> 01:49:12,960
Speaker 4: because she was the girlfriend. More than seven thousand cases

2375
01:49:12,960 --> 01:49:17,720
Speaker 4: are over each year of suspect of suspected Americans trying

2376
01:49:17,760 --> 01:49:25,360
Speaker 4: to dupe the system. So guess the race of mister JOHNO.

2377
01:49:25,080 --> 01:49:31,679
Speaker 5: The fake wine? Dude? I say, blue collar job, white

2378
01:49:31,760 --> 01:49:36,320
Speaker 5: skin crime. What about you, Drew?

2379
01:49:36,640 --> 01:49:40,800
Speaker 2: Oh for sure, dude, White is the still functioning? Seeing fucking.

2380
01:49:43,600 --> 01:49:48,719
Speaker 4: Let's check the chat room white blind to privileged white?

2381
01:49:50,000 --> 01:49:54,080
Speaker 4: I don't see seeing color translucent. One who gets mad

2382
01:49:54,160 --> 01:49:57,480
Speaker 4: if they don't get the extra care bucks from CVS.

2383
01:49:57,520 --> 01:49:58,480
Speaker 5: White?

2384
01:50:00,320 --> 01:50:04,800
Speaker 4: Uh, Spanish says pre de Linda White, who probably did

2385
01:50:04,840 --> 01:50:10,479
Speaker 4: a Pacino impersonation. Impersonation like sin of a woman. What

2386
01:50:10,600 --> 01:50:12,000
Speaker 4: a correct answer is?

2387
01:50:12,320 --> 01:50:27,840
Speaker 5: He was white? And one person said that's Spanish. I

2388
01:50:27,880 --> 01:50:38,879
Speaker 5: believe damn they caught him. They caught him like driving

2389
01:50:39,520 --> 01:50:42,240
Speaker 5: driving though, could you've done it now?

2390
01:50:42,320 --> 01:50:43,400
Speaker 6: Like one point four million?

2391
01:50:43,439 --> 01:50:46,160
Speaker 2: Could you have like wore the dark sunglasses and just

2392
01:50:46,240 --> 01:50:48,680
Speaker 2: really like been like blind blind, like like really like

2393
01:50:48,840 --> 01:50:51,280
Speaker 2: method act like twenty four to seven for I don't know,

2394
01:50:51,479 --> 01:50:52,040
Speaker 2: five years.

2395
01:50:52,040 --> 01:50:54,559
Speaker 5: Probably I probably couldn't have to act five.

2396
01:50:54,479 --> 01:50:59,720
Speaker 4: Years, but I could not drive. That's what I would say,

2397
01:51:00,000 --> 01:51:00,280
Speaker 4: you know.

2398
01:51:00,240 --> 01:51:02,599
Speaker 7: What, And it may be because I'm a black thing.

2399
01:51:02,720 --> 01:51:06,040
Speaker 7: Because I'm black thing, I always assume they're gonna check.

2400
01:51:06,520 --> 01:51:08,720
Speaker 7: White folks have had that privilege that nobody gonna check

2401
01:51:08,760 --> 01:51:10,800
Speaker 7: behind them on shit they do. I assume that you're

2402
01:51:10,800 --> 01:51:14,559
Speaker 7: gonna check and validate. So I'm like, nah, I'm good.

2403
01:51:15,120 --> 01:51:16,880
Speaker 5: You go four years of this fucking scamming.

2404
01:51:16,920 --> 01:51:19,640
Speaker 2: It bring into legs like optimologies like now he can

2405
01:51:19,680 --> 01:51:20,680
Speaker 2: see perfectly.

2406
01:51:20,400 --> 01:51:21,080
Speaker 5: Goddamn it.

2407
01:51:21,400 --> 01:51:24,040
Speaker 4: Right, I might be just the one dude that they

2408
01:51:24,080 --> 01:51:28,479
Speaker 4: catch getting fitted for glasses, right like wait a minute,

2409
01:51:28,720 --> 01:51:31,760
Speaker 4: wait a minute, you know. Plus I mean now, I

2410
01:51:31,800 --> 01:51:34,719
Speaker 4: think if I wasn't on a trial and this shit happened,

2411
01:51:34,760 --> 01:51:36,200
Speaker 4: I would use it their devil defense.

2412
01:51:36,920 --> 01:51:39,439
Speaker 5: I'ld be like, uh yo, hona, I actually would like.

2413
01:51:39,400 --> 01:51:43,479
Speaker 4: To admit that I have super human radar ability and

2414
01:51:44,840 --> 01:51:47,240
Speaker 4: I'm still legally blind and I'm old all one point

2415
01:51:47,280 --> 01:51:51,360
Speaker 4: three million, but I also gained these fantastical abilities. And

2416
01:51:51,400 --> 01:51:54,120
Speaker 4: that's why I'm able to drive, hold doors open for people,

2417
01:51:54,479 --> 01:51:55,160
Speaker 4: and watch TV.

2418
01:51:55,360 --> 01:51:57,160
Speaker 5: Okay, ah, and read.

2419
01:51:58,479 --> 01:51:58,719
Speaker 6: Yeah.

2420
01:51:58,920 --> 01:52:01,960
Speaker 4: I can't tell what color your robe is, but I

2421
01:52:02,000 --> 01:52:06,000
Speaker 4: know I'm in court. Okay, I know you have I

2422
01:52:06,040 --> 01:52:08,080
Speaker 4: know you have on briefs under your pants.

2423
01:52:09,560 --> 01:52:11,880
Speaker 2: When dar Devil, I didn't read the comics with it.

2424
01:52:12,160 --> 01:52:14,719
Speaker 2: In fact, we got Netflix for Daredevil because of you guys.

2425
01:52:14,760 --> 01:52:16,120
Speaker 2: We were on the show and you were talking about like,

2426
01:52:16,160 --> 01:52:18,439
Speaker 2: all we gotta get Netflix. And I remember at some point,

2427
01:52:18,479 --> 01:52:20,600
Speaker 2: like the third or fourth episode, he like senses the

2428
01:52:20,680 --> 01:52:23,080
Speaker 2: box and nails on the fucking like shelf over there,

2429
01:52:23,120 --> 01:52:24,680
Speaker 2: and it's like half a box and nails.

2430
01:52:24,439 --> 01:52:25,120
Speaker 6: And I don't know why.

2431
01:52:25,280 --> 01:52:27,120
Speaker 2: Like all these other things I had no problem with,

2432
01:52:27,200 --> 01:52:29,080
Speaker 2: but that right there, I was incredular swipt like, oh

2433
01:52:29,120 --> 01:52:30,439
Speaker 2: this is I.

2434
01:52:30,400 --> 01:52:33,799
Speaker 5: Was like, okay, so all the half of half a box.

2435
01:52:35,400 --> 01:52:36,040
Speaker 6: Half a box.

2436
01:52:36,520 --> 01:52:36,720
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2437
01:52:36,800 --> 01:52:40,519
Speaker 4: My favorite thing was I read, because I do read

2438
01:52:40,520 --> 01:52:44,160
Speaker 4: the comics, and I was reading reading an issue the

2439
01:52:44,200 --> 01:52:48,599
Speaker 4: other day where Captain America was like in his ear,

2440
01:52:48,680 --> 01:52:51,320
Speaker 4: you know, like guiding him through like solving this crime,

2441
01:52:51,439 --> 01:52:54,559
Speaker 4: right uh, And so he's like, okay, do this, okay,

2442
01:52:54,600 --> 01:52:57,000
Speaker 4: go here and do that and then so he gets

2443
01:52:57,000 --> 01:52:59,360
Speaker 4: to this room and there's a bomb in the room

2444
01:52:59,400 --> 01:53:03,120
Speaker 4: and it's rigged explode, and Captain America's like, okay, all right,

2445
01:53:03,120 --> 01:53:04,800
Speaker 4: I can walk you through this. All right, you need

2446
01:53:04,840 --> 01:53:06,600
Speaker 4: to open up this part of the bomb. Okay, is

2447
01:53:06,600 --> 01:53:06,880
Speaker 4: it open?

2448
01:53:06,960 --> 01:53:08,880
Speaker 5: Yeah? All right, you need to cut the green wire.

2449
01:53:09,479 --> 01:53:14,120
Speaker 4: And and they just showed that that one jumping out

2450
01:53:14,200 --> 01:53:16,920
Speaker 4: of the room and it looks like he's running away,

2451
01:53:16,960 --> 01:53:18,840
Speaker 4: like he's just like fuck it, everybody gonna die.

2452
01:53:19,040 --> 01:53:20,920
Speaker 5: And but like he actually goes and.

2453
01:53:20,880 --> 01:53:24,479
Speaker 4: Gets a criminal and like makes that criminal disarmed the bomb.

2454
01:53:25,439 --> 01:53:27,000
Speaker 4: But it's just funny he had to come up with

2455
01:53:27,040 --> 01:53:29,559
Speaker 4: this alternative solution because he just gets to this moment

2456
01:53:29,560 --> 01:53:32,040
Speaker 4: where you're like, oh, yeah, all the superpowers in the

2457
01:53:32,040 --> 01:53:36,160
Speaker 4: fucking world can't tell you what color that wire is,

2458
01:53:37,439 --> 01:53:42,320
Speaker 4: all right, man, Next story, no baby Mama drama. A

2459
01:53:42,400 --> 01:53:48,400
Speaker 4: convicted killer seeks love online. Oh okay, mm hmm, that's right, Karen.

2460
01:53:48,960 --> 01:53:52,519
Speaker 4: Sometimes don't let killing the motherfucker stop you from finding love,

2461
01:53:53,439 --> 01:53:58,280
Speaker 4: I understand, honestly, Lewis. Yeah, just because you kill somebody,

2462
01:53:58,320 --> 01:54:00,880
Speaker 4: should you really have to never be allowed to love again,

2463
01:54:01,880 --> 01:54:04,120
Speaker 4: to never have a tender I can't have a tender

2464
01:54:04,160 --> 01:54:05,599
Speaker 4: profile because I murdered my wife.

2465
01:54:05,640 --> 01:54:07,960
Speaker 5: Really that was a long time ago.

2466
01:54:09,400 --> 01:54:12,240
Speaker 4: A New York City man is convicted of killing his wife,

2467
01:54:12,479 --> 01:54:15,599
Speaker 4: as drawing a new outrage from his public quest for romance,

2468
01:54:16,920 --> 01:54:20,760
Speaker 4: John Cruppy. That's a weird last name. I don't think

2469
01:54:20,760 --> 01:54:23,320
Speaker 4: we've ever had that on the sholve before. John Cruppy

2470
01:54:23,360 --> 01:54:25,120
Speaker 4: will send us to twenty five years in prison last

2471
01:54:25,160 --> 01:54:27,479
Speaker 4: September after being convicted and the murder of his wife,

2472
01:54:27,920 --> 01:54:31,240
Speaker 4: Semeonnette Mapes in their Staten Island home.

2473
01:54:31,920 --> 01:54:35,600
Speaker 5: Mapes's mother, Teressa Maples, or maybe they mean Maples.

2474
01:54:35,960 --> 01:54:39,879
Speaker 4: Why was her last name different from her anyway, recently

2475
01:54:40,040 --> 01:54:45,720
Speaker 4: learned of Cruppy's profile on dating website convictpinpals dot Com.

2476
01:54:46,120 --> 01:54:48,920
Speaker 4: The profile states I'm not married and I don't have

2477
01:54:48,960 --> 01:54:49,560
Speaker 4: any kids.

2478
01:54:49,560 --> 01:54:50,840
Speaker 5: No baby mama drama here.

2479
01:54:54,480 --> 01:54:59,040
Speaker 4: Come on, man, that's so fucked up. He has no

2480
01:54:59,120 --> 01:54:59,960
Speaker 4: baby mama drama.

2481
01:55:00,520 --> 01:55:03,080
Speaker 5: The positives. That's what you gotta do, you.

2482
01:55:05,480 --> 01:55:08,839
Speaker 2: Know, the stuff that's going I already on convicted criminal

2483
01:55:09,000 --> 01:55:09,600
Speaker 2: like hook up.

2484
01:55:11,320 --> 01:55:14,280
Speaker 4: It's like, uh yeah, I'm a convicted pedophile. But the

2485
01:55:14,320 --> 01:55:16,880
Speaker 4: good news is you don't have to ever worry about

2486
01:55:16,880 --> 01:55:20,320
Speaker 4: me and my having any kids. I'll never be around kids.

2487
01:55:20,360 --> 01:55:22,919
Speaker 4: So I mean, if you just don't.

2488
01:55:22,680 --> 01:55:25,720
Speaker 5: Have no kids in your life, you know, holler at me.

2489
01:55:26,640 --> 01:55:32,320
Speaker 4: Oh Mabel's mother Theresa. Oh wait, so he says he

2490
01:55:32,360 --> 01:55:36,240
Speaker 4: has no baby Mama Driva Teresa Mate says, quoting Kruppi's

2491
01:55:36,320 --> 01:55:40,160
Speaker 4: website profile dating profile, it was just the way that

2492
01:55:40,240 --> 01:55:42,120
Speaker 4: he wrote that it was like an attack on us.

2493
01:55:42,160 --> 01:55:43,680
Speaker 4: That's how it felt. It was an attack on his

2494
01:55:43,720 --> 01:55:47,280
Speaker 4: family like he has, he hasn't enough. He took my

2495
01:55:47,360 --> 01:55:50,000
Speaker 4: world away to destroy my world. He destroyed my life,

2496
01:55:50,000 --> 01:55:52,560
Speaker 4: He destroyed my family. She said she was a good,

2497
01:55:52,600 --> 01:55:56,840
Speaker 4: good hearted, soul person. And that's why I want that

2498
01:55:56,960 --> 01:56:00,680
Speaker 4: these convicts cannot write up these letters, write up these foles.

2499
01:56:01,160 --> 01:56:04,280
Speaker 4: Prosecutor said, Cruppy push makes a Brooklyn teacher down a

2500
01:56:04,280 --> 01:56:07,680
Speaker 4: flight of stairs doing the argument before stabbing her fifteen times.

2501
01:56:07,760 --> 01:56:09,560
Speaker 5: Well, goddamn, I know.

2502
01:56:10,040 --> 01:56:12,120
Speaker 4: He then ransacked the home to make it look like

2503
01:56:12,160 --> 01:56:16,320
Speaker 4: she'd been killed by an intruder. Prosecutor said Cruppy, who

2504
01:56:16,400 --> 01:56:19,840
Speaker 4: was also a Brooklyn teacher at the time, shout out

2505
01:56:19,840 --> 01:56:23,640
Speaker 4: to Brooklyn, meet up with the medal, with the prostitute,

2506
01:56:23,680 --> 01:56:25,760
Speaker 4: with a prostitute after the killer, and then return home

2507
01:56:25,840 --> 01:56:30,680
Speaker 4: hours later and called now one one. Wow, He's like,

2508
01:56:30,800 --> 01:56:32,720
Speaker 4: you know what, now I can finally meet up with

2509
01:56:32,760 --> 01:56:33,520
Speaker 4: a prostitute.

2510
01:56:33,920 --> 01:56:35,520
Speaker 6: The rest of this guy's profile.

2511
01:56:36,400 --> 01:56:44,080
Speaker 4: Recently single, Yeah, Cruppy, I'm not attached to anybody, you know.

2512
01:56:45,240 --> 01:56:48,080
Speaker 4: Crubby has maintained he is innocent and told the judge

2513
01:56:48,080 --> 01:56:50,120
Speaker 4: at sentence and he did not kill his wife. His

2514
01:56:50,200 --> 01:56:52,560
Speaker 4: day of profile also claims he's innocent. So why is

2515
01:56:52,600 --> 01:56:53,240
Speaker 4: he on that site?

2516
01:56:53,320 --> 01:56:53,480
Speaker 9: Then?

2517
01:56:54,280 --> 01:56:55,520
Speaker 5: Well, I guess he was convicted.

2518
01:56:55,640 --> 01:56:59,560
Speaker 4: Okay, it was It's like my daughter meant nothing, Teresa said,

2519
01:57:00,120 --> 01:57:03,080
Speaker 4: she started an argument. I mean an organization called Sissy's

2520
01:57:03,120 --> 01:57:06,120
Speaker 4: Angels in honor of her daughter to help victims of

2521
01:57:06,160 --> 01:57:09,240
Speaker 4: domestic violence. You know, that's where my anger comes from,

2522
01:57:09,400 --> 01:57:11,320
Speaker 4: is that my daughter did mean something and she was

2523
01:57:11,360 --> 01:57:15,920
Speaker 4: an asset to this world. Kreby's attorney, Mario Galucci, was

2524
01:57:15,960 --> 01:57:18,000
Speaker 4: asked about the dating profile Monday, and he said in

2525
01:57:18,000 --> 01:57:19,880
Speaker 4: the statement, although I can see out the victim's family

2526
01:57:19,880 --> 01:57:22,760
Speaker 4: because use such a profile as being disrespectful, I could

2527
01:57:22,840 --> 01:57:24,800
Speaker 4: understand my client's point of view by trying to keep

2528
01:57:24,840 --> 01:57:28,520
Speaker 4: his hope alive. Kreuby's case is now in the pillot process,

2529
01:57:28,600 --> 01:57:31,480
Speaker 4: But for Teresa, the last line of Kubby's dating profile

2530
01:57:31,560 --> 01:57:31,920
Speaker 4: is haunting.

2531
01:57:32,360 --> 01:57:35,200
Speaker 5: Take a chance and write me soon. You won't regret it.

2532
01:57:36,000 --> 01:57:36,840
Speaker 5: Will they regret it?

2533
01:57:36,960 --> 01:57:40,560
Speaker 4: Question, Teresa mates, Yes, it will be the sorriest thing

2534
01:57:40,600 --> 01:57:43,680
Speaker 4: they ever did if they wrote this person. So guess

2535
01:57:43,680 --> 01:57:52,880
Speaker 4: the race of this dating profile, dude, Jonathan Cruppy.

2536
01:57:52,280 --> 01:57:56,040
Speaker 3: I'm getting say, part of the Robert Durst book club.

2537
01:57:56,640 --> 01:58:00,480
Speaker 5: Wait, okay, what about you, Drew.

2538
01:58:01,120 --> 01:58:03,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's still one of my people.

2539
01:58:03,200 --> 01:58:03,600
Speaker 5: Very white.

2540
01:58:03,960 --> 01:58:06,000
Speaker 4: All right, let's check the chat room and see what

2541
01:58:06,040 --> 01:58:09,920
Speaker 4: they believe. White American psycho man. I wish I had

2542
01:58:09,920 --> 01:58:12,360
Speaker 4: the confidence of this white man on my date profile.

2543
01:58:13,160 --> 01:58:15,960
Speaker 4: Way too much energy spent when you can just go

2544
01:58:16,080 --> 01:58:19,440
Speaker 4: to the store for cigarettes white white. This is something Charlie,

2545
01:58:19,480 --> 01:58:26,400
Speaker 4: she and shit white swhite knife white. Correct, correct, that's

2546
01:58:26,400 --> 01:58:39,680
Speaker 4: it is white. And I'll get his picture on here

2547
01:58:39,680 --> 01:58:42,880
Speaker 4: in a second. I had Uh, this one website doesn't

2548
01:58:42,960 --> 01:58:44,400
Speaker 4: let me link pictures.

2549
01:58:44,480 --> 01:58:46,560
Speaker 2: Let me see if I can. Uh, he's gonna get

2550
01:58:46,600 --> 01:58:48,839
Speaker 2: like responses to for real.

2551
01:58:48,720 --> 01:58:50,960
Speaker 5: For real? That's killing me.

2552
01:58:51,560 --> 01:58:55,040
Speaker 4: That really shows how how desperate the Dayton game is,

2553
01:58:55,160 --> 01:58:57,640
Speaker 4: right mm hmm, Like people.

2554
01:58:57,320 --> 01:58:59,000
Speaker 5: Are here like you know what.

2555
01:59:01,320 --> 01:59:03,080
Speaker 4: He ain't got No, I ain't got to worry about

2556
01:59:03,120 --> 01:59:06,280
Speaker 4: him cheating on me when his ex So, I guess,

2557
01:59:07,320 --> 01:59:09,080
Speaker 4: I guess I gotta make this move.

2558
01:59:09,120 --> 01:59:11,800
Speaker 5: I ain't getting no younger already. I always know where

2559
01:59:11,800 --> 01:59:12,200
Speaker 5: he is.

2560
01:59:12,720 --> 01:59:16,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, we gotta always say we gotta give

2561
01:59:16,600 --> 01:59:20,000
Speaker 4: people a second chance. And the death penalty sentence is

2562
01:59:20,040 --> 01:59:22,640
Speaker 4: not forever, just twenty five of life.

2563
01:59:22,880 --> 01:59:26,680
Speaker 2: Okay, the dude before the dude that, the dude before

2564
01:59:26,760 --> 01:59:30,240
Speaker 2: the chick ends up with like, like, what do you think?

2565
01:59:30,360 --> 01:59:34,040
Speaker 2: Like like you gave up on me for convicted Kirk murderer.

2566
01:59:34,320 --> 01:59:36,840
Speaker 4: You know what I feel like if that happens to me,

2567
01:59:36,920 --> 01:59:39,840
Speaker 4: I'll look at your faceball Facebook profile and I go,

2568
01:59:40,240 --> 01:59:44,240
Speaker 4: you know what, I'm okay with this. You moved on

2569
01:59:44,960 --> 01:59:47,800
Speaker 4: from me to a convicted murderer, and that's something I

2570
01:59:47,840 --> 01:59:49,080
Speaker 4: wasn't willing to do to keep you.

2571
01:59:49,160 --> 01:59:54,280
Speaker 5: So judge away. There you go, all right, bonus round.

2572
02:00:01,600 --> 02:00:02,280
Speaker 8: Double up.

2573
02:00:03,840 --> 02:00:09,680
Speaker 4: The race, double up, saying the race, that's right, double

2574
02:00:09,680 --> 02:00:11,760
Speaker 4: the points, double the race for the bonus round of

2575
02:00:11,840 --> 02:00:12,520
Speaker 4: guests the race.

2576
02:00:12,600 --> 02:00:15,000
Speaker 5: So far, both of ro contestants.

2577
02:00:14,520 --> 02:00:15,560
Speaker 6: Are two for two.

2578
02:00:16,320 --> 02:00:18,800
Speaker 5: But will they mess it up as they get nervous

2579
02:00:18,840 --> 02:00:22,000
Speaker 5: in the bonus round? Probably? Let's see.

2580
02:00:22,360 --> 02:00:27,200
Speaker 4: Let's see, here's one a woman groped a fellow passenger's

2581
02:00:27,240 --> 02:00:29,080
Speaker 4: breast on an airline.

2582
02:00:30,080 --> 02:00:30,760
Speaker 5: Oh.

2583
02:00:30,840 --> 02:00:35,200
Speaker 4: A woman allegedly reached over and groped the female passenger

2584
02:00:35,280 --> 02:00:38,760
Speaker 4: during the pack flight. Heidi McKinney, twenty six, was flying

2585
02:00:38,760 --> 02:00:42,520
Speaker 4: from Las Vegas to Portland on Sunday when she touched

2586
02:00:42,560 --> 02:00:44,800
Speaker 4: the woman's breast and genitalia without consent.

2587
02:00:45,600 --> 02:00:47,120
Speaker 8: Oh so you're touching everything.

2588
02:00:47,600 --> 02:00:49,080
Speaker 4: This is why we can't let him in the bathroom

2589
02:00:49,080 --> 02:00:53,640
Speaker 4: care Okay. Authorities were like, I just kidding, use two women.

2590
02:00:53,920 --> 02:00:57,560
Speaker 4: Authorities were alerted to the incident by the crew of

2591
02:00:57,720 --> 02:00:58,760
Speaker 4: the Alaska Airline.

2592
02:00:58,840 --> 02:01:01,839
Speaker 10: Oh you know what, I just realized us From now on,

2593
02:01:03,400 --> 02:01:05,720
Speaker 10: transgender people are gonna be playing gainst the gender type

2594
02:01:05,760 --> 02:01:10,680
Speaker 10: things with the orientation because there is gonna be a

2595
02:01:10,720 --> 02:01:13,879
Speaker 10: sensationalism around any crime that happens in the bathroom.

2596
02:01:15,120 --> 02:01:17,640
Speaker 5: Like they're definitely gonna be watching the news like come on, man,

2597
02:01:17,840 --> 02:01:22,320
Speaker 5: come on down please right, I mean any crime in

2598
02:01:22,320 --> 02:01:23,480
Speaker 5: the bathroom really.

2599
02:01:25,320 --> 02:01:29,800
Speaker 4: Because some dude gonna use the transgender excuse. That's happening

2600
02:01:29,840 --> 02:01:32,360
Speaker 4: for some straight dude, I wouldn't have raped there in

2601
02:01:32,360 --> 02:01:34,800
Speaker 4: the bathroom. Remember one for this new law, Like what

2602
02:01:35,640 --> 02:01:37,320
Speaker 4: this is, you could have put it on you last week.

2603
02:01:37,480 --> 02:01:40,040
Speaker 4: I had to wait for the lauter pass. I'm a

2604
02:01:40,280 --> 02:01:46,720
Speaker 4: very very rapist. Yes, I'm a very proper rapist. I'm

2605
02:01:46,760 --> 02:01:49,520
Speaker 4: not break the rules. When I do, I only break

2606
02:01:49,560 --> 02:01:52,440
Speaker 4: one rule. The rest of the rules I follow, like

2607
02:01:52,560 --> 02:01:54,280
Speaker 4: bathroom situation.

2608
02:01:54,600 --> 02:01:56,800
Speaker 8: It's always be sure I wear my skirts and my

2609
02:01:56,880 --> 02:01:57,560
Speaker 8: knee highs.

2610
02:01:57,720 --> 02:02:01,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, you will see. I'm only accused of one prime okay.

2611
02:02:01,720 --> 02:02:01,920
Speaker 7: Uh.

2612
02:02:01,960 --> 02:02:04,720
Speaker 4: Anyway, So authorities were alerted to the incident by the

2613
02:02:04,720 --> 02:02:07,760
Speaker 4: crew of Alaska Airlines Flight six twenty one, and once

2614
02:02:07,760 --> 02:02:09,920
Speaker 4: the plane landed, they interviewed that alleged victim, who said

2615
02:02:09,960 --> 02:02:13,240
Speaker 4: the touching was not consensual. Miss Kinny was taking into custody,

2616
02:02:13,240 --> 02:02:15,200
Speaker 4: where she was charged of third degree sexual abuse and

2617
02:02:15,240 --> 02:02:17,400
Speaker 4: her bell was set at three three hundred and ninety

2618
02:02:17,400 --> 02:02:18,120
Speaker 4: one dollars.

2619
02:02:18,840 --> 02:02:22,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, how would you even I'm a stranger? What are

2620
02:02:22,360 --> 02:02:22,880
Speaker 5: you hoping?

2621
02:02:22,960 --> 02:02:25,040
Speaker 8: I say, right then, I'm cool with this.

2622
02:02:25,240 --> 02:02:27,880
Speaker 5: Right, I guess it was alright, I mean, or.

2623
02:02:27,960 --> 02:02:31,160
Speaker 4: Like, oh, maybe it was an accident or you know, yeah,

2624
02:02:31,320 --> 02:02:33,240
Speaker 4: so tired thing like that.

2625
02:02:33,680 --> 02:02:36,280
Speaker 5: So did you consent to being finger banged by this

2626
02:02:36,320 --> 02:02:39,000
Speaker 5: strange lady that just sat next to you? No? No,

2627
02:02:39,240 --> 02:02:39,920
Speaker 5: I really didn't.

2628
02:02:40,080 --> 02:02:40,960
Speaker 8: Not in a public place.

2629
02:02:41,280 --> 02:02:42,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know this fool right.

2630
02:02:43,240 --> 02:02:46,320
Speaker 4: However, she was released the following day with charges dropped

2631
02:02:46,560 --> 02:02:49,880
Speaker 4: after a no complaint disposition deposition was filed that afternoon.

2632
02:02:51,160 --> 02:02:52,920
Speaker 5: US federal officials will review the case.

2633
02:02:53,520 --> 02:02:57,640
Speaker 4: Oh so, yeah, I guess the race of miss What

2634
02:02:57,720 --> 02:03:02,440
Speaker 4: did I say your name was? Heidi McKinney has multiple

2635
02:03:02,480 --> 02:03:04,440
Speaker 4: copies of nigger on her bookshelf.

2636
02:03:08,600 --> 02:03:10,160
Speaker 5: What about you, Drew.

2637
02:03:10,640 --> 02:03:13,360
Speaker 2: I'm gonna not only say white, I'm gonna go further.

2638
02:03:13,520 --> 02:03:16,480
Speaker 2: I refer to these women usually as packbackies, like a

2639
02:03:16,480 --> 02:03:19,400
Speaker 2: little pack tack bird girls. So she'suna be like platinum, blond, white,

2640
02:03:19,480 --> 02:03:22,440
Speaker 2: like five foot two, like one hundred and one pounds.

2641
02:03:21,920 --> 02:03:26,920
Speaker 5: Like, okay, platinum. Oh yeah, she has the good hair.

2642
02:03:29,240 --> 02:03:31,840
Speaker 4: Shocked, she didn't didn't touch the black woman's hair in

2643
02:03:31,880 --> 02:03:35,040
Speaker 4: front of her them first, uh says she thought it

2644
02:03:35,080 --> 02:03:36,080
Speaker 4: was flotation device.

2645
02:03:36,120 --> 02:03:36,960
Speaker 5: White hot.

2646
02:03:37,000 --> 02:03:39,120
Speaker 4: He had her hands all up in the milk and honey.

2647
02:03:39,120 --> 02:03:44,160
Speaker 4: White white, the complexion of the protection. White could have

2648
02:03:44,640 --> 02:03:48,320
Speaker 4: worked happily at American airlines. White they took. They look

2649
02:03:48,400 --> 02:03:50,640
Speaker 4: so real when you're who's your doctor?

2650
02:03:50,720 --> 02:03:51,160
Speaker 5: White?

2651
02:03:51,760 --> 02:03:56,160
Speaker 4: I worked for the TSA IT Ties. Wait, I worked

2652
02:03:56,160 --> 02:03:59,360
Speaker 4: for the TSA IT ties sack at what was s

2653
02:03:59,520 --> 02:04:02,840
Speaker 4: s memory her sack? Ass I guess of the White

2654
02:04:02,920 --> 02:04:07,040
Speaker 4: Power council sack and ass Oh? Okay ts a t

2655
02:04:07,160 --> 02:04:09,320
Speaker 4: D sack of ass Oh, because the curtain you have

2656
02:04:09,400 --> 02:04:09,920
Speaker 4: to space it out.

2657
02:04:09,960 --> 02:04:11,960
Speaker 5: Got it, my bad? White?

2658
02:04:13,120 --> 02:04:16,240
Speaker 4: I was petting. Wait, I was just petting, why does

2659
02:04:16,280 --> 02:04:19,120
Speaker 4: it have to be a thing white? The correct answer is,

2660
02:04:19,160 --> 02:04:21,240
Speaker 4: and everybody got this one again White.

2661
02:04:22,720 --> 02:04:23,120
Speaker 9: I like that.

2662
02:04:23,280 --> 02:04:23,960
Speaker 5: Everybody knew that.

2663
02:04:30,320 --> 02:04:31,960
Speaker 8: Yeah, the ain't gonna let no black women do that.

2664
02:04:32,280 --> 02:04:32,680
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2665
02:04:32,800 --> 02:04:35,280
Speaker 4: I don't even know what the response she thought would

2666
02:04:35,280 --> 02:04:38,880
Speaker 4: happen is, because like, how di would you even begin

2667
02:04:38,960 --> 02:04:40,600
Speaker 4: to suspect someone would be into that?

2668
02:04:40,960 --> 02:04:41,080
Speaker 8: Right?

2669
02:04:41,120 --> 02:04:44,400
Speaker 7: And it's one of those days where nobody blank anywhere?

2670
02:04:44,760 --> 02:04:47,000
Speaker 5: Right, Like she just bought that. Take her part the

2671
02:04:47,000 --> 02:04:47,480
Speaker 5: group people.

2672
02:04:48,120 --> 02:04:49,520
Speaker 8: Yeah, that was a whole purpose.

2673
02:04:49,600 --> 02:04:52,000
Speaker 4: This is the only purpose. I don't even have any

2674
02:04:52,040 --> 02:04:54,120
Speaker 4: business in Portland. Nope.

2675
02:04:55,000 --> 02:04:56,880
Speaker 7: I came just for you, girl. And the reason why

2676
02:04:56,920 --> 02:04:58,880
Speaker 7: I said nobody black was it wasn't a brawl.

2677
02:04:59,160 --> 02:05:01,879
Speaker 8: They'd be like America Airlines, everybody get arrested.

2678
02:05:02,840 --> 02:05:04,920
Speaker 5: Word word that is so true.

2679
02:05:08,120 --> 02:05:10,760
Speaker 2: Was the show Black Ink where Donad and Duchess they

2680
02:05:10,760 --> 02:05:14,160
Speaker 2: went down to Miami and they got together.

2681
02:05:13,920 --> 02:05:15,480
Speaker 5: But the woman was like, no, I didn't you do it?

2682
02:05:15,760 --> 02:05:18,680
Speaker 6: You tongue raged me, like damn, I raged you like

2683
02:05:18,760 --> 02:05:19,680
Speaker 6: he was moaning.

2684
02:05:19,400 --> 02:05:19,920
Speaker 10: This shit.

2685
02:05:21,240 --> 02:05:21,640
Speaker 5: All right?

2686
02:05:22,240 --> 02:05:26,600
Speaker 4: Last one, last story, I guess the race prosecutor. A

2687
02:05:26,680 --> 02:05:31,680
Speaker 4: pillow fight escalated to violence. Goddamn, A thirty seven year

2688
02:05:31,720 --> 02:05:34,720
Speaker 4: old Townsend man has allegedly given a dangerous new meaning

2689
02:05:34,760 --> 02:05:36,000
Speaker 4: to the phrase pillow fight.

2690
02:05:36,560 --> 02:05:36,760
Speaker 5: Well.

2691
02:05:36,800 --> 02:05:39,520
Speaker 4: Begin as a drunken fight over a pillow between Sean

2692
02:05:39,640 --> 02:05:43,000
Speaker 4: Tatum and his girlfriend and their Barker Herod department in

2693
02:05:43,040 --> 02:05:46,400
Speaker 4: Townshend in March sixteenth, escalated to where Tatum is accused

2694
02:05:46,440 --> 02:05:48,800
Speaker 4: of dragging a victim to the bed and punching her.

2695
02:05:48,640 --> 02:05:50,800
Speaker 5: Breaking her nose. Oh shit.

2696
02:05:51,760 --> 02:05:55,360
Speaker 4: Tatum pleaded not guilty an Air District court to charges

2697
02:05:55,400 --> 02:05:58,560
Speaker 4: of assaulting, assault and battery on a family member and

2698
02:05:58,600 --> 02:06:01,320
Speaker 4: the facing property. He was held with out bell pending

2699
02:06:01,360 --> 02:06:04,880
Speaker 4: the dangerousness hearing on Thursday. But what makes Tatum a

2700
02:06:04,960 --> 02:06:08,400
Speaker 4: danger to the victim in society? Barnes said it's his

2701
02:06:08,520 --> 02:06:11,720
Speaker 4: multiple page record of assault charges spanning two decades, most

2702
02:06:11,760 --> 02:06:16,280
Speaker 4: involving alcohol, many against girlfriends. He has had four restrainer

2703
02:06:16,400 --> 02:06:17,720
Speaker 4: orders against him by two women.

2704
02:06:18,480 --> 02:06:21,200
Speaker 8: Oh oh, see see this is why you need to

2705
02:06:21,240 --> 02:06:22,200
Speaker 8: google people man.

2706
02:06:22,760 --> 02:06:25,120
Speaker 4: Most recently, in a matter of amongst Tatum racked up

2707
02:06:25,120 --> 02:06:28,800
Speaker 4: for domestic violence charges, most in the Worcester District Court.

2708
02:06:30,000 --> 02:06:33,040
Speaker 4: Barnes noted that Tatum had appended domestic violence case in

2709
02:06:33,080 --> 02:06:36,680
Speaker 4: Worcester involving the same victim in the towns In case.

2710
02:06:37,320 --> 02:06:39,600
Speaker 4: As part of his release, he was ordered to stay

2711
02:06:39,600 --> 02:06:43,560
Speaker 4: away from the victim. Oh, he didn't follow the rule, shocking,

2712
02:06:44,000 --> 02:06:45,880
Speaker 4: but he then went back to living with her and

2713
02:06:45,920 --> 02:06:49,520
Speaker 4: picked up another case. While stipulating that Tatum is a danger,

2714
02:06:49,560 --> 02:06:52,160
Speaker 4: defense attorney Edward Walker argued that his client doesn't need

2715
02:06:52,200 --> 02:06:54,520
Speaker 4: to be held in jail while away the trial. Tatum

2716
02:06:54,600 --> 02:06:59,080
Speaker 4: can live with his grandmother. But well, I'm sure she'll

2717
02:06:59,120 --> 02:07:02,080
Speaker 4: be fine, right, let's put him in Let's put him

2718
02:07:02,080 --> 02:07:03,840
Speaker 4: in the house with an elderly woman. That that don't

2719
02:07:03,840 --> 02:07:06,920
Speaker 4: work out great? But Tatum was ordered hell with alt

2720
02:07:07,000 --> 02:07:09,120
Speaker 4: bell as a danger in the towns of case, and

2721
02:07:09,200 --> 02:07:11,440
Speaker 4: his bell was revoked and he was held without bell

2722
02:07:11,560 --> 02:07:13,960
Speaker 4: in his pending Rochester's case.

2723
02:07:14,320 --> 02:07:15,880
Speaker 5: His next court date is able six.

2724
02:07:15,960 --> 02:07:22,400
Speaker 4: So I guess the race good of mister Shawn Tatum

2725
02:07:22,440 --> 02:07:23,280
Speaker 4: not so magic?

2726
02:07:23,400 --> 02:07:29,160
Speaker 5: Mike White Okay. Pillow case also a clan hood wife.

2727
02:07:29,440 --> 02:07:31,920
Speaker 4: All right, let's check the chat room and see what

2728
02:07:32,000 --> 02:07:35,920
Speaker 4: they believe. Someone questioned, how is he out? He's not out?

2729
02:07:35,960 --> 02:07:36,920
Speaker 5: Guys, they didn't.

2730
02:07:37,560 --> 02:07:41,760
Speaker 4: They did not give him baill so uhs taking people

2731
02:07:41,760 --> 02:07:42,040
Speaker 4: a while?

2732
02:07:42,080 --> 02:07:46,040
Speaker 5: I guess on this one. And why was it?

2733
02:07:46,120 --> 02:07:48,520
Speaker 2: Why was pillow fight even in it, like he dragged

2734
02:07:48,560 --> 02:07:49,840
Speaker 2: you to a beat and punch in the face.

2735
02:07:49,880 --> 02:07:51,320
Speaker 5: What's the pillar got to do with anything?

2736
02:07:51,520 --> 02:07:55,080
Speaker 4: Oh, it's funny because certain domestic violence articles will start

2737
02:07:55,120 --> 02:07:57,960
Speaker 4: with something like that, where it's like, didn't get the

2738
02:07:58,000 --> 02:08:00,640
Speaker 4: last piece of chicken. Then when you read it, you're like, oh,

2739
02:08:00,760 --> 02:08:03,920
Speaker 4: this is horrendous. You know, it's like, you know a

2740
02:08:04,080 --> 02:08:06,400
Speaker 4: man was hit with the last piece of chicken. Did

2741
02:08:06,480 --> 02:08:09,000
Speaker 4: he skew with her with a poker from the fireplace?

2742
02:08:09,080 --> 02:08:11,400
Speaker 4: I'm like, fuck, this is the lead.

2743
02:08:11,560 --> 02:08:15,160
Speaker 5: You buried the lead. This dude is evil, like the pillowcases,

2744
02:08:15,240 --> 02:08:17,160
Speaker 5: like you know, gone wrong, our pillow fight gone wrong?

2745
02:08:17,280 --> 02:08:22,520
Speaker 6: Like no, no, like drag Peter bender today.

2746
02:08:22,880 --> 02:08:28,480
Speaker 3: It happened in succession near the pillow fights. Since she

2747
02:08:28,680 --> 02:08:30,920
Speaker 3: was not with breathing that day.

2748
02:08:30,920 --> 02:08:34,360
Speaker 5: Lower lower case pillow upper case fight.

2749
02:08:34,600 --> 02:08:37,200
Speaker 8: You know the pill was not the problem that day.

2750
02:08:38,280 --> 02:08:42,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, they do that all the time man white, they

2751
02:08:42,640 --> 02:08:45,040
Speaker 4: sent they sent him to move in with Big Mama

2752
02:08:45,120 --> 02:08:52,440
Speaker 4: black black white, My deal's baby, black white. All those

2753
02:08:52,480 --> 02:08:55,200
Speaker 4: restraining orders were still walking around all lick it up,

2754
02:08:55,240 --> 02:08:58,400
Speaker 4: white black, messing with grandma's pillows on the plastic couch,

2755
02:09:00,080 --> 02:09:05,960
Speaker 4: dragon tat on white. The correct answer is, and most

2756
02:09:05,960 --> 02:09:19,520
Speaker 4: of you missed it, he's black. A couple of you

2757
02:09:19,560 --> 02:09:19,920
Speaker 4: got it.

2758
02:09:31,600 --> 02:09:31,640
Speaker 9: That.

2759
02:09:32,760 --> 02:09:36,280
Speaker 5: My real problem with guess the race always is that's.

2760
02:09:36,080 --> 02:09:38,720
Speaker 4: On the one hand, I'm always looking for a reason

2761
02:09:38,760 --> 02:09:40,920
Speaker 4: for it to be a white person, and on the

2762
02:09:40,960 --> 02:09:43,440
Speaker 4: flip side, I'm always looking for a reason not to

2763
02:09:43,520 --> 02:09:46,920
Speaker 4: be a black person. So I'll convince myself of all

2764
02:09:46,960 --> 02:09:49,320
Speaker 4: of those things with east story, like now that could

2765
02:09:49,320 --> 02:09:51,160
Speaker 4: be white. That sounds white to me, it's like, oh

2766
02:09:51,920 --> 02:09:52,440
Speaker 4: that's black.

2767
02:09:52,600 --> 02:09:56,640
Speaker 2: Like that, you also play the odds right, you're hoping

2768
02:09:56,680 --> 02:09:58,440
Speaker 2: it's white, and if it's white, you're right, and if

2769
02:09:58,440 --> 02:10:00,840
Speaker 2: it's black, you're like, dang it, we saidn't think it.

2770
02:10:01,000 --> 02:10:01,240
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2771
02:10:01,280 --> 02:10:04,560
Speaker 4: The clues the clues in that one where Sean what's

2772
02:10:04,600 --> 02:10:06,320
Speaker 4: his name, y'all should have asked for the spelling is

2773
02:10:06,360 --> 02:10:12,600
Speaker 4: ah a j u. And also uh he was he

2774
02:10:12,840 --> 02:10:17,120
Speaker 4: was not allowed bail. Uh so they kept him. Uh,

2775
02:10:17,280 --> 02:10:19,720
Speaker 4: normally they let white dudes go again and just be like,

2776
02:10:20,080 --> 02:10:21,760
Speaker 4: I mean, what's what's the worst thing that he could do?

2777
02:10:22,360 --> 02:10:23,200
Speaker 5: Beat another woman?

2778
02:10:23,200 --> 02:10:25,680
Speaker 4: I mean, come on, that's the that'll be because time

2779
02:10:25,760 --> 02:10:30,080
Speaker 4: this week. All right, let's do the final thing we

2780
02:10:30,160 --> 02:10:33,600
Speaker 4: come to do. God spread the gospel about fighting against

2781
02:10:33,600 --> 02:10:34,400
Speaker 4: sword ratchetness.

2782
02:10:36,640 --> 02:10:38,880
Speaker 5: It's really these streaks mm hmm.

2783
02:10:54,960 --> 02:10:56,560
Speaker 4: And that's why you don't pill a fight with Sean

2784
02:10:59,280 --> 02:11:01,920
Speaker 4: A woman with the sword by nephew at the dispute

2785
02:11:01,920 --> 02:11:06,320
Speaker 4: about cleaning cleaning, Oh shit, it got real. Cameron Reese,

2786
02:11:06,320 --> 02:11:09,840
Speaker 4: guess the race White, eighteen, was arrested on Tuesday after

2787
02:11:09,840 --> 02:11:12,000
Speaker 4: the police said he threatened his aunt with a sword.

2788
02:11:12,440 --> 02:11:15,760
Speaker 4: The victim, Angie Norman, told Devide's Shriffes that she and

2789
02:11:15,800 --> 02:11:18,600
Speaker 4: her nephew were arguing about cleaning that residence. She said

2790
02:11:18,640 --> 02:11:20,880
Speaker 4: Reese threw all the laundry on the floor, enter the

2791
02:11:20,960 --> 02:11:24,320
Speaker 4: room and closed the door. When miss Norman followed him

2792
02:11:24,320 --> 02:11:26,960
Speaker 4: into the room, she said, he pulled the sword off

2793
02:11:27,000 --> 02:11:30,000
Speaker 4: the wall us she and aggressively put the blade within

2794
02:11:30,040 --> 02:11:32,200
Speaker 4: a few inches of her face. Afraid of her safety

2795
02:11:32,240 --> 02:11:34,240
Speaker 4: and the safety of others than the residence, she called

2796
02:11:34,240 --> 02:11:35,160
Speaker 4: not one one.

2797
02:11:36,560 --> 02:11:36,880
Speaker 5: Damn.

2798
02:11:38,480 --> 02:11:40,200
Speaker 4: He must have came in the room and been like

2799
02:11:40,280 --> 02:11:42,800
Speaker 4: cleaning his shit up and threw all his dirty clothes

2800
02:11:42,800 --> 02:11:45,640
Speaker 4: on the floor. And then she came in there like no,

2801
02:11:45,720 --> 02:11:48,360
Speaker 4: not in my house, and then he pulled out that sword.

2802
02:11:50,520 --> 02:11:53,000
Speaker 5: Uh in another one, let's do this one.

2803
02:11:53,280 --> 02:11:55,880
Speaker 4: A fifty seven year old man, way too old to

2804
02:11:55,920 --> 02:11:59,760
Speaker 4: be fucking with swords, was arrested Sunday after allegedly threatening

2805
02:11:59,760 --> 02:12:03,400
Speaker 4: to her his wife with a decorative sword. My aunt

2806
02:12:03,440 --> 02:12:05,480
Speaker 4: and a wife, don't we always go to the people

2807
02:12:05,480 --> 02:12:07,000
Speaker 4: that are closest to us.

2808
02:12:07,880 --> 02:12:09,880
Speaker 5: That's right, you know, people with swords stay out of

2809
02:12:09,920 --> 02:12:10,640
Speaker 5: their house, y'all.

2810
02:12:11,400 --> 02:12:15,040
Speaker 4: Officers responded about eight forty five pm to a family

2811
02:12:15,080 --> 02:12:17,960
Speaker 4: trouble call. The man's wife told officers she had been

2812
02:12:18,000 --> 02:12:19,560
Speaker 4: in the bathroom when her husband came in and.

2813
02:12:19,600 --> 02:12:20,440
Speaker 5: Took her phone.

2814
02:12:20,800 --> 02:12:23,240
Speaker 4: He reportedly accused her of cheating on him and threw

2815
02:12:23,280 --> 02:12:27,840
Speaker 4: her phone against the wall and damaged numerous household itels. Know.

2816
02:12:27,920 --> 02:12:30,800
Speaker 5: The worst part what she probably was cheating on.

2817
02:12:30,760 --> 02:12:35,360
Speaker 2: Them at that mid life dude, right, the extra like

2818
02:12:35,840 --> 02:12:38,680
Speaker 2: you know sex period midlife That might be also like

2819
02:12:38,720 --> 02:12:40,760
Speaker 2: the time you start fucking with swords and shit, like

2820
02:12:40,880 --> 02:12:41,800
Speaker 2: I've always wanted.

2821
02:12:41,560 --> 02:12:42,120
Speaker 5: To story.

2822
02:12:44,200 --> 02:12:46,160
Speaker 2: Like I'm fifty six. If they don't get a short now,

2823
02:12:46,160 --> 02:12:48,880
Speaker 2: when am I ever gonna get it? Shurt, get a

2824
02:12:48,920 --> 02:12:49,640
Speaker 2: short right now.

2825
02:12:50,040 --> 02:12:53,440
Speaker 4: If you start threatening, if you start threatening me while

2826
02:12:53,440 --> 02:12:55,840
Speaker 4: I'm on the toilet, then I think it's about time

2827
02:12:55,880 --> 02:12:56,680
Speaker 4: for me to start cheating.

2828
02:12:56,720 --> 02:12:57,440
Speaker 5: That's all I'm saying.

2829
02:12:58,160 --> 02:13:01,280
Speaker 4: Uh, you got swords and ship I need to be

2830
02:13:01,280 --> 02:13:03,120
Speaker 4: looking for a way out of him.

2831
02:13:03,320 --> 02:13:05,240
Speaker 6: If you got set in the bathroom though, sure it's

2832
02:13:05,240 --> 02:13:06,840
Speaker 6: the best way to go. You got to block the door,

2833
02:13:06,840 --> 02:13:07,760
Speaker 6: and that catch a good way.

2834
02:13:07,640 --> 02:13:10,880
Speaker 4: To Yeah, and then why would you break the phone

2835
02:13:10,920 --> 02:13:12,560
Speaker 4: if you're looking for evidence in the phone.

2836
02:13:12,680 --> 02:13:15,880
Speaker 5: I don't get it. The man that you know what?

2837
02:13:15,960 --> 02:13:17,400
Speaker 4: Why am I trying to make sense of this dude?

2838
02:13:17,560 --> 02:13:20,200
Speaker 4: This dude have a fucking store and he threatens his

2839
02:13:20,200 --> 02:13:21,480
Speaker 4: wife with it? Right?

2840
02:13:21,720 --> 02:13:23,480
Speaker 5: The man didn't. This is what people want our podcast

2841
02:13:23,520 --> 02:13:25,600
Speaker 5: to be. Care the Mann.

2842
02:13:27,440 --> 02:13:28,520
Speaker 8: Home, not No.

2843
02:13:28,960 --> 02:13:31,400
Speaker 5: Just in the middle of me talking, Careen just pulls

2844
02:13:31,400 --> 02:13:31,920
Speaker 5: out a sword.

2845
02:13:32,040 --> 02:13:35,040
Speaker 4: Pitch I know you cheating, No, baby, please, I would

2846
02:13:35,080 --> 02:13:38,040
Speaker 4: never We're not eating your poke, like, well, you know,

2847
02:13:38,240 --> 02:13:39,840
Speaker 4: I promise we'll never eat it.

2848
02:13:41,000 --> 02:13:43,720
Speaker 5: Uh, the woman said. Uh.

2849
02:13:43,760 --> 02:13:45,920
Speaker 4: The man grabbed approximately a four foot long sword from

2850
02:13:45,960 --> 02:13:48,000
Speaker 4: the wall. He began swinging and yelling the work that

2851
02:13:48,000 --> 02:13:50,480
Speaker 4: he would slit her throat. Before leaving the residence, the

2852
02:13:50,520 --> 02:13:53,200
Speaker 4: woman said she ran from the house from the bathroom

2853
02:13:53,240 --> 02:13:55,920
Speaker 4: into her daughter's room and held the door closed.

2854
02:13:55,960 --> 02:13:57,960
Speaker 5: The daughter was home during the altercation.

2855
02:13:58,240 --> 02:14:01,120
Speaker 4: Of course, Uh, I'm sure she'll be able to have

2856
02:14:01,200 --> 02:14:04,680
Speaker 4: many healthy relationships, so she goes her for sure with

2857
02:14:04,720 --> 02:14:09,520
Speaker 4: this perfect example. Police spoke with the man at the residence.

2858
02:14:10,040 --> 02:14:12,280
Speaker 4: He said a family friend told him his wife was

2859
02:14:12,360 --> 02:14:15,160
Speaker 4: cheating on him, and he became upset. The man admitted

2860
02:14:15,160 --> 02:14:17,200
Speaker 4: to knocking picture friends off the wall and destroying some

2861
02:14:17,240 --> 02:14:19,680
Speaker 4: items in the resident, but said the decad the sowreds

2862
02:14:19,760 --> 02:14:25,680
Speaker 4: were never touched. The preliminary blood alcohol tests when police

2863
02:14:25,760 --> 02:14:30,960
Speaker 4: made contact with the man indicated, oh holy shit, wait

2864
02:14:31,200 --> 02:14:35,960
Speaker 4: this right, his alcohol content was point seven point oh

2865
02:14:36,040 --> 02:14:36,520
Speaker 4: seven six?

2866
02:14:36,640 --> 02:14:38,160
Speaker 5: Is that? What's the legal limit?

2867
02:14:38,640 --> 02:14:38,680
Speaker 7: Is?

2868
02:14:40,080 --> 02:14:40,400
Speaker 5: Okay?

2869
02:14:40,400 --> 02:14:42,160
Speaker 4: Okay, all right, cool, all right? I thought it was

2870
02:14:42,200 --> 02:14:44,000
Speaker 4: point oh eight. For a second, I was like, this,

2871
02:14:44,080 --> 02:14:52,000
Speaker 4: wouldn't he be dead? Fucked up that decimal point? Thank goodness. Anyway,

2872
02:14:52,040 --> 02:14:54,840
Speaker 4: he was drinking. The man was arrested on suspicion of

2873
02:14:54,920 --> 02:15:00,320
Speaker 4: domestic violence, related disorderly conduct and criminal damage to pay. Yeah,

2874
02:15:00,320 --> 02:15:02,440
Speaker 4: I wonder if he feels bad that he didn't go

2875
02:15:02,520 --> 02:15:04,920
Speaker 4: over the legal limits so he can't be like I

2876
02:15:04,960 --> 02:15:07,880
Speaker 4: was just drunk. Baby, It's like, no, you can still

2877
02:15:07,960 --> 02:15:11,200
Speaker 4: drive a car technically. YA has crazy?

2878
02:15:11,400 --> 02:15:14,000
Speaker 2: You know the people that I'm sure of ratchetness the

2879
02:15:14,160 --> 02:15:17,440
Speaker 2: like ven diagram of like sword ownership and like drinking

2880
02:15:17,600 --> 02:15:20,040
Speaker 2: and fucking like angrily, like smashing shit.

2881
02:15:20,120 --> 02:15:21,640
Speaker 5: Like there's a lot of overlap there.

2882
02:15:22,040 --> 02:15:25,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, there was a ven diagram. I'd say number one.

2883
02:15:25,880 --> 02:15:29,560
Speaker 4: Attacking a woman is high on the list. Yeah, a

2884
02:15:29,640 --> 02:15:33,400
Speaker 4: lot of women getting swords turned on them and definitely

2885
02:15:33,880 --> 02:15:36,440
Speaker 4: now you know what, there's also some mental illness in there.

2886
02:15:36,480 --> 02:15:39,120
Speaker 5: A lot of times there's a drug use.

2887
02:15:39,720 --> 02:15:43,400
Speaker 4: There's like a lot of like hot button issues evolved

2888
02:15:43,400 --> 02:15:46,040
Speaker 4: in sword ratchetness. But I think the number one issue

2889
02:15:46,080 --> 02:15:48,120
Speaker 4: is we should be regulating sword on the ship.

2890
02:15:48,200 --> 02:15:48,480
Speaker 5: Guys.

2891
02:15:48,520 --> 02:15:53,080
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2892
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Speaker 4: They do a podcast weekly.

2893
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Speaker 5: It's great.

2894
02:15:55,320 --> 02:15:57,720
Speaker 4: We listen to it. All our friends are on it.

2895
02:15:57,800 --> 02:16:01,960
Speaker 4: We've been on it, and uh, it's great. It's great stuff.

2896
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Speaker 9: Man.

2897
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Speaker 4: You can find it on all the places you find

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Speaker 4: podcasts and Interracial John dot com.

2899
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Speaker 5: Uh, you guys got anything coming up? Do we have

2900
02:16:09,920 --> 02:16:10,400
Speaker 5: anything coming?

2901
02:16:10,560 --> 02:16:11,640
Speaker 6: I hope any guests coming up.

2902
02:16:11,720 --> 02:16:13,760
Speaker 3: No, we don't have any guests coming up. But when

2903
02:16:13,800 --> 02:16:15,840
Speaker 3: we're in Philly, we're hoping to do a little maybe

2904
02:16:16,440 --> 02:16:18,640
Speaker 3: John meet up, so people can be on the lookout

2905
02:16:18,680 --> 02:16:18,880
Speaker 3: for that.

2906
02:16:19,280 --> 02:16:19,920
Speaker 5: Oh that's right.

2907
02:16:19,960 --> 02:16:23,600
Speaker 4: You guys in Chicago did kind of tvg w T

2908
02:16:23,760 --> 02:16:24,360
Speaker 4: little meat up?

2909
02:16:25,160 --> 02:16:26,880
Speaker 8: Yes, how was that?

2910
02:16:27,200 --> 02:16:30,640
Speaker 5: It was amazing? We had so much fun. It was hilarious.

2911
02:16:30,840 --> 02:16:33,400
Speaker 3: And the food we went to a Jamaican restaurant, so

2912
02:16:33,440 --> 02:16:38,600
Speaker 3: the food was amazing, but the service was oh yeah, yeah,

2913
02:16:39,000 --> 02:16:42,200
Speaker 3: you know, happens. But we had a great time and

2914
02:16:42,560 --> 02:16:44,320
Speaker 3: we were cracking up, cracking each other up.

2915
02:16:44,360 --> 02:16:47,119
Speaker 5: It was really fun. Now we got there perfect time. Yeah,

2916
02:16:47,240 --> 02:16:47,760
Speaker 5: it was great.

2917
02:16:47,879 --> 02:16:50,800
Speaker 4: I'm glad y'all enjoyed it. Man, And uh yeah, we'll

2918
02:16:50,800 --> 02:16:52,840
Speaker 4: be up in DC meeting a bunch of folks soon,

2919
02:16:53,000 --> 02:16:56,840
Speaker 4: so I'm excited. Yeah, we'll see how that. Uh isn't

2920
02:16:56,840 --> 02:16:58,200
Speaker 4: that flight cares like, I'm excited me.

2921
02:16:58,320 --> 02:16:59,240
Speaker 5: We'll see how that goes.

2922
02:17:00,120 --> 02:17:00,320
Speaker 9: Yeah.

2923
02:17:01,240 --> 02:17:04,720
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, we're two completely different things.

2924
02:17:04,800 --> 02:17:08,080
Speaker 8: Like I'm like road trip, let's go. I'm excited.

2925
02:17:08,840 --> 02:17:11,240
Speaker 4: Rod's like I gotta get myself mentally prepared.

2926
02:17:11,840 --> 02:17:13,240
Speaker 8: It was because he's an introvert.

2927
02:17:13,440 --> 02:17:15,560
Speaker 5: It that's how I am. I'm like.

2928
02:17:17,160 --> 02:17:19,600
Speaker 4: It was reflexive too, Like I didn't even think about

2929
02:17:19,640 --> 02:17:21,120
Speaker 4: it till it was out of my mouth. I was like, oh,

2930
02:17:21,200 --> 02:17:23,560
Speaker 4: yeah that. No one's gonna meet somebody talking like that.

2931
02:17:25,440 --> 02:17:30,240
Speaker 4: Hopefully these motherfuckers won't be crazy. No, I don't want

2932
02:17:30,240 --> 02:17:32,480
Speaker 4: to meet everybody. I'm gonna get excited that day, guys,

2933
02:17:32,879 --> 02:17:33,680
Speaker 4: all right, I am.

2934
02:17:33,720 --> 02:17:35,080
Speaker 8: I'm gonna be excited the most.

2935
02:17:35,200 --> 02:17:37,560
Speaker 7: Roger's gonna have to be like, hey, get away from crazy.

2936
02:17:37,600 --> 02:17:39,200
Speaker 7: But other than that, we're gonna be good because I

2937
02:17:39,200 --> 02:17:40,440
Speaker 7: will probably just speak to everybody.

2938
02:17:40,520 --> 02:17:42,480
Speaker 5: Once I get places, I feel like I'm fine.

2939
02:17:43,040 --> 02:17:46,640
Speaker 4: It's just all the build up between like thinking about it,

2940
02:17:47,160 --> 02:17:50,119
Speaker 4: traveling and then getting there. That's when I'm like, something

2941
02:17:50,400 --> 02:17:53,160
Speaker 4: go go wrong. They're gonna cancel our show. I don't know,

2942
02:17:54,040 --> 02:17:55,920
Speaker 4: you know, like I won't be shocked. And we get

2943
02:17:55,920 --> 02:17:57,440
Speaker 4: there and they're just like, your badges don't work, and

2944
02:17:57,480 --> 02:17:58,680
Speaker 4: I'll just be like, yeah, that's FIUs.

2945
02:17:58,760 --> 02:18:02,040
Speaker 5: We should just go home, just go now. But if

2946
02:18:02,080 --> 02:18:05,720
Speaker 5: we get there, it's gonna be lit, guys, so show up.

2947
02:18:05,800 --> 02:18:08,520
Speaker 8: Yeah, we play on getting there, Yes, we do all.

2948
02:18:08,480 --> 02:18:10,560
Speaker 5: Right, man, we'll talk to you tomorrow.

2949
02:18:10,680 --> 02:18:12,960
Speaker 4: Our guests will be Pete Still You guys may know

2950
02:18:13,040 --> 02:18:15,959
Speaker 4: him from The Three Guys on being one of the

2951
02:18:16,000 --> 02:18:16,720
Speaker 4: sock puppets.

2952
02:18:17,000 --> 02:18:19,360
Speaker 5: He also has his own podcasts still Waring d C.

2953
02:18:19,520 --> 02:18:22,280
Speaker 5: I believe the name of it. If not, that's his

2954
02:18:22,360 --> 02:18:22,920
Speaker 5: Twitter name.

2955
02:18:22,959 --> 02:18:25,680
Speaker 4: But uh yeah, we'll be here first time guest tomorrow

2956
02:18:25,680 --> 02:18:29,320
Speaker 4: and then Wednesday recapping Game of Thrones will have Lejeff

2957
02:18:29,360 --> 02:18:33,440
Speaker 4: throw Jenkins and Dragonfly Jones with the Jinkin and Jones podcast,

2958
02:18:33,560 --> 02:18:37,880
Speaker 4: So everybody's gonna be really excited about that. Hope you

2959
02:18:37,959 --> 02:18:40,199
Speaker 4: enjoyed this extra long episode. Man, that means we really

2960
02:18:40,240 --> 02:18:41,040
Speaker 4: like Leslie and Drew.

2961
02:18:41,200 --> 02:18:43,480
Speaker 5: Okay, we'd like you guys to thank you.

2962
02:18:45,480 --> 02:18:45,920
Speaker 6: On the show.

2963
02:18:46,000 --> 02:18:48,760
Speaker 3: We were looking forward to it and it's always great

2964
02:18:48,800 --> 02:18:49,800
Speaker 3: to be here on the show with you.

2965
02:18:50,040 --> 02:18:52,959
Speaker 2: When we we said we started a podcast because you guys,

2966
02:18:53,120 --> 02:18:54,760
Speaker 2: I remember talking to Leslie like, well, you know we're

2967
02:18:54,800 --> 02:18:55,200
Speaker 2: gonna do it.

2968
02:18:55,280 --> 02:18:57,720
Speaker 6: We like it, and you talk like, well is it successful?

2969
02:18:57,800 --> 02:18:58,560
Speaker 5: We having fun?

2970
02:18:58,640 --> 02:19:01,039
Speaker 2: Like what's the metric? And we both decided that when

2971
02:19:01,040 --> 02:19:02,720
Speaker 2: we got to be on the Black Eye Tips then

2972
02:19:02,720 --> 02:19:04,039
Speaker 2: we're like, okay, we made it like that.

2973
02:19:05,560 --> 02:19:13,080
Speaker 4: That well you know what, man, We're glad to anytime

2974
02:19:13,120 --> 02:19:14,840
Speaker 4: we can help make the gold Man, We're glad to

2975
02:19:14,840 --> 02:19:16,680
Speaker 4: be able to do it. Man, y'all do great work.

2976
02:19:17,720 --> 02:19:20,160
Speaker 4: All right, Man, y'all we'll be back tomorrow. Until then,

2977
02:19:20,320 --> 02:19:21,160
Speaker 4: love you,