1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Herd podcast. Be sure to 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports Radio in 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: noon to three Eastern nine am to noon Pacific. Find 4 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: your local station for The Herd at Fox Sports Radio 5 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: dot com, or stream us live every day on the 6 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. 7 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 8 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 3: Here we go. It's our two. 9 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: It's NBA Draft night, a draft chuck full of domestic players. 10 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 1: Couple Rutger guys, three guys d Cooper Flag will go 11 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 1: number one Arizona. You're getting big schools, big brands, very 12 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 1: good players. Is it a great draft? I think it's 13 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 1: good at the top, but again it's an NBA draft. 14 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: These are young players. It's not the NFL. We're guys 15 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 1: giving it twenty three. They've been in call it for 16 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 1: three or four years. Their bodies are mature. I mean 17 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 1: even Cooper Flag right now. Had he not taken the 18 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 1: opportunity to move ahead, he would be in high school 19 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: getting his diploma right now, so he shouldn't have played 20 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:07,040 Speaker 1: college yet. But he was so good out of Maine 21 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 1: in the Duke that they moved his progress up. And 22 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 1: now Cooper Flag is gonna go number one to Dallas 23 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 1: the number two pick. There are reports Dylan Harper that 24 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:19,040 Speaker 1: the Spurs, if they got an amazing offer, would move 25 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 1: the pick. I don't think they're going to. But if 26 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 1: somebody gets on the phone and offers at four number, 27 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: you know, four lottery picks, you do it. You know, 28 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 1: almost everybody's tradable. MAV's the first pick. I think we 29 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 1: know they're going to take. I think Dylan Harper's the 30 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 1: obvious pick for the Spurs. Dylan Harper not getting talked 31 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: a lout because let's be honest, we watch college basketball 32 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:39,479 Speaker 1: mostly in March. 33 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 3: Six' six left the good. 34 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 1: Handles he's a really good, player not close to what 35 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 1: he's going to. Become Whereas Cooper, flag you feel like 36 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 1: you kind of know what he's going to look. Like But, 37 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 1: harper of the two, players he's a, playmaker can create 38 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 1: shots for himself and. Others you, know he's a smooth 39 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 1: lefty and he is probably in the fifth inning of his. 40 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 1: Development he's just starting so and a lot of these, 41 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 1: drafts you, know in, baseball you can draft a college. 42 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: Kid so he's been AT lsu or he's been at 43 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:15,079 Speaker 1: Like michigan a good, program so you kind of. 44 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:15,359 Speaker 3: Know what you're. 45 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 1: Getting in THE, nba you're projecting a. Lot you're doing 46 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:22,639 Speaker 1: a lot of projecting on what's gonna. Be so it's 47 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 1: hard to call any draft a great. Draft what you 48 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 1: have now is a great, prospect Like weimby was a great. 49 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 3: Prospect we Thought zion And John morant. 50 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 1: Were great prospects and they just weren't mature enough at 51 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 1: the time to take over a. Team WHAT i like 52 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:41,079 Speaker 1: About Cooper flagg is he won't be asked to take 53 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 1: over a. Team he's got an a. Coach they've got 54 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:46,239 Speaker 1: an incredible front line In. DALLAS i said this last 55 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 1: year with A Nico harrison trade With, Luca i'm, like 56 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:53,919 Speaker 1: If kyrie And ady didn't get, hurt this team is really, 57 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: good really, good And cooper flag is what they need, 58 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 1: transition can hit, three can be a. 59 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 3: Playmaker they need young. 60 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 1: Legs and he's a guy that needs to get out 61 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 1: on the, break so he doesn't want he won't have 62 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:10,360 Speaker 1: to defend the. Rim dallas has trees back. There he 63 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 1: can sit, back get the, ball couple dribbles past half, 64 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 1: court ready to. Roll SO i think it's gonna BE 65 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 1: i think it's gonna be an absolutely fascinating, draft One 66 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 1: i'm gonna. Watch in, FACT i said last, YEAR i 67 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:26,360 Speaker 1: thought THE Wnba draft was better than THE Nba draft 68 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 1: because THE wnba, stars the college basketball women's, stars john 69 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 1: have been in college for four. 70 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 3: Years they're not leaving. Early and SO i Watched. 71 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 1: South, CAROLINA i watched the Women's final, FOUR i watch ucon. 72 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: Play so a lot of the draft is your visceral. 73 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 1: Connection that's, Why like whether you Like Baker mayfield or, 74 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 1: not you watched him play for two or three years in. 75 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: College you have an opinion on. Him Cooper, flag you 76 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 1: have an opinion on, him and that's what makes THE 77 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: nfl draft. Better to this point in THE Nba, draft 78 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 1: we've seen him and we've got strong opinion for. 79 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 4: Sure you had, mentioned you, know one of the better 80 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 4: prospects in the last decade With wemby And. Zion zion 81 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 4: looked like an offensive lineman or a defensive unique body. 82 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 2: Type wemby's like eight feet. 83 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 4: Tall Cooper flag looks like what AN nba player is 84 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 4: supposed to look, like right right in that six body. 85 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 2: Type it just. 86 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 4: Works you, Know, wemby it, might BUT i Mean he's 87 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 4: already battled some. Injuries zion has battled his weight from 88 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 4: the jump Like Cooper. 89 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:27,479 Speaker 2: Flag that, translates. 90 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 1: Yeah AND i was reading Some Cooper flag stuff like 91 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 1: some of you have, Done i'm sure over the last 92 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:34,600 Speaker 1: couple of. Days his high school career In. Maine one 93 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 1: of the THINGS i really like about, him AND i 94 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: think his, compass sort Of Jason. TATUM i just like 95 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 1: how darn aggressive he. Is AND i think the old 96 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 1: school players were all fighting for financial, pie The Michael, 97 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 1: jordan's The Larry, BIRDS i, mean And Rick. Patino our 98 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 1: guest knows that the league was. Feisty the league had 99 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: some angry players fighting for the. Pie now bench guys 100 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:56,719 Speaker 1: make fifteen. Million they're all like. Friends they do each other's, 101 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:59,720 Speaker 1: charities they go on each other's. Podcast cooper's got a 102 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 1: little old school. Feisty he's got a little old school. 103 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 1: Chip AND i want to bring in many people over the, 104 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:07,359 Speaker 1: years WHEN i talked to them on or off the, 105 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 1: AIR i always, say if there's a coach in, college 106 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: you would not want to coach Against Rick patino's one or. 107 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:17,479 Speaker 1: Two And i've ASKED nba people, like give me somebody 108 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 1: that changed the way you saw, basketball and they often 109 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 1: Say Rick, patino he did At Saint, john's which all 110 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:24,919 Speaker 1: of us who Grew i'm A West coast. KID i 111 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:27,160 Speaker 1: grew up not loving The pac. TWELVE i love The Big. 112 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:27,479 Speaker 3: EAST. 113 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 1: Pj, Carlissimo Louis Carnaseca, patino was It? 114 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 3: Providence that's the BASKETBALL i grew. 115 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:36,839 Speaker 1: Up With beeheim At syracuse And Rick patino now who 116 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: has Turned Saint john's. Around he has the number one 117 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 1: incoming class coming. In, rick it's interesting people have grumbled 118 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 1: about the transfer portal in THE nil and you had 119 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 1: a really interesting take on, this which was stop grumbling about. 120 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 1: It you're using it to your. Advantage SO i want 121 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:59,600 Speaker 1: to start. There there's been a lot of, changes but 122 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:02,839 Speaker 1: you've really put your arms around all the changes despite 123 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 1: not being a thirty five year. Old that's easy when 124 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:08,160 Speaker 1: you're thirty five years, old you're an older. Coach why 125 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 1: did you not grumble about the transfer portal AND nil 126 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 1: and instead used? 127 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 5: It, WELL i felt the change was here and, quitting, 128 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 5: resigning complaining is of no. 129 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:23,840 Speaker 3: Value you have to win the. 130 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 5: Day you have to get the job, done AND i 131 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 5: just felt, That, okay we're going to use it to 132 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 5: the best of our abilities At Saint. John's so we're 133 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 5: an urban, school we're a commuters, school we play In 134 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:37,720 Speaker 5: Madison Square garden as a home. Court how can we 135 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:41,919 Speaker 5: maximize off potential by embracing THE nil and the transfer. 136 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:45,159 Speaker 5: Portal we went away from high school basketball, players although 137 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 5: we had taken one or two a year to, develop 138 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 5: but by and large we've gone after older. 139 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:53,720 Speaker 1: Players, RICK i have been saying this now for a, 140 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,839 Speaker 1: year that college basketball is having a, renaissance that THE 141 00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 1: nil is keeping some pros in college for one more, 142 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 1: year and you guys are also poaching international players who 143 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 1: are really, good and that WHEN i Watched yukon two years, 144 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:09,679 Speaker 1: AGO i, Said, okay college basketball's. Back they got SEVEN nba. 145 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 1: Guys that team could compete against anybody that's a real basketball. Team, length, 146 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 1: aggressiveness perimeter. DEFENSE i think you have gone back into. 147 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 1: College do you notice it over the last year or 148 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 1: two that there is a there's more layers to the 149 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 1: talent in your. 150 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 5: Sport, definitely we've found that why go to THE G 151 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 5: league when you can make seven eight hundred thousand. Dollars 152 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 5: so Many european basketball players if they sign on With, 153 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 5: olympiaco So, Puneta naiko so or. Somebody lower level, teams 154 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 5: they're going to make maybe three hundred four hundred. Thousand 155 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 5: they could go to college and make a lot more than. 156 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 5: That so we're finding that The european players want to 157 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 5: come here and attend college and stay away from going 158 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 5: to the. 159 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 1: Pros so you have an intricate knowledge of high, SCHOOL, 160 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 1: aau college pro. Basketball give me two traits About Cooper 161 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 1: flag that you say to, yourself those are pro traits 162 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 1: that will work. 163 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 3: Immediately, well he's physically. 164 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 5: Ready he's extremely, athletic he shoots the, basketball he's a 165 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 5: tough young, man and he's maybe one of like three 166 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 5: players that are ready to have an impact right away 167 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 5: for The Dallas. Mavericks he's got a good inside, game 168 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 5: good outside. Game he drives with, force he knows how 169 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 5: to play the. Game he actually is, young he's skipped 170 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 5: a year of high. School so's he's ready for THE 171 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 5: nba AND i think he'll be an impact basketball player right. 172 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 3: Away so you FACED. Vj edgecombe From. 173 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 1: Baylor, okay what did you see that you like as 174 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 1: a pro and is there anything he needs to work 175 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 1: on as a? 176 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:49,439 Speaker 3: Pro? 177 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 5: Vj is a tremendous. Athlete, fast he plays way way 178 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 5: above the. Rim he's lightning quick in the open. Court 179 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 5: he's got an average to good jump. Shot he needs 180 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 5: a lot of work on his jump. Shot but that being, 181 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:09,439 Speaker 5: said most guys when they go to THE, nba from 182 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 5: being the clad non shooters become great shooters by the 183 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 5: time they're in their second third year in THE. 184 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 3: Nba, yeah it is. 185 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 1: FUNNY i don't Remember Ray allen being that good of 186 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 1: a shooter in. College in, FACT i remember him being, 187 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 1: athletic and five years later he's an unbelievable. 188 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 3: Shooter SO i don't. KNOW i think you're right on. 189 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 1: That so WHEN i look At Dylan, HARPER i see 190 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 1: a guy that's in the fourth inning of a nine inning, 191 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:34,200 Speaker 1: game like he's got a long way to. Go, Again 192 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 1: i'll ask, you if many suspect he's the number two, 193 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 1: pick do you think he is worthy of a number two? 194 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 3: Pick what do you, see RICK i Do because he 195 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 3: understands the. 196 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 5: Game there are very few players out there that totally 197 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 5: get the game and how it should be. 198 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 3: Played Dylan happer is someone that understands the. 199 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 5: Game he has great, pace great, tempo gets his shout 200 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 5: off in, traffic but really understands how to make players. 201 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 5: Better there aren't too many guys in the drift that 202 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 5: make players. Better he's one of, those you. 203 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 1: KNOW i it's funny about THE, nba WHERE i. 204 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 3: Think it's an. Advantage in THE. 205 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: Nba people have always, said, oh you want to be 206 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 1: you want to be in a big. Market and my 207 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:16,680 Speaker 1: take is, no if you're in a big, market tibbs 208 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 1: happens that the owners, like we got to win. Now 209 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 1: but In Okac sam prest he's doing a. Rebuild it's 210 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 1: the only game in. 211 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 2: Town they're. 212 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 1: PATIENT i, Mean San antonio won thirty four games last. 213 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 1: Year they haven't won more than that in six. Years 214 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 1: everybody's all in on the youth. Movement nobody has a. 215 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 1: Problem when you look you went To, boston which is 216 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 1: the most Pressurized East coast. Market when you look at 217 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 1: THE nba right, now. 218 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 3: Do you like where it's at as a. 219 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 1: Sport do you think they're doing a good enough job 220 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 1: taking your college players and developing them or do you 221 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:54,079 Speaker 1: think sometimes it's a rush. 222 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 5: Job the MISTAKE i think people are making is did 223 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 5: too much in tea young. Players for, Instance Walter, clayton Junior. 224 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:06,559 Speaker 5: Yeah Walter, clayton WHO i recruited At. Iona he won 225 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 5: two high school championships back to. Back comes WITH, us 226 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 5: wins A mac, championships he's THE mvp of the. League 227 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 5: then he goes To florida as a, transfer elevates his, 228 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 5: game wins the national championship right, away very similar TO 229 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 5: i look at him like a smaller version Of murray From. 230 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 3: Denver Walter clayton. 231 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 5: Junior because he's a little, older he should If i'm a, 232 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 5: COACH i want A Walter clayton junior BECAUSE i know 233 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 5: he's a knockdown. SHOOTER i know he makes free. Throws 234 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 5: he's an unbelievable foul. Shooter he knows how to, pass 235 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 5: he has good. Verticality he does EVERYTHING i want as 236 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:44,959 Speaker 5: far as a. Winner but they, say, well he's a little, 237 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 5: older so we'll draft the younger. Players it's almost like 238 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 5: it's an excuse for the general managers in the scouts 239 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 5: to draft a, really really young, player so if he 240 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 5: doesn't make, it they'll just, say well he's. 241 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 3: Young it's a building. 242 00:11:57,120 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 1: Excuse, yeah you know It's we were just talking About 243 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:06,559 Speaker 1: Sean payton earlier and all the roadblocks he was able 244 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:08,679 Speaker 1: to overcome In, denver AND i, said, Yes sean can 245 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:11,680 Speaker 1: be a little overconfident and he's. DIRECT i, said but 246 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 1: get over. That people are either, good so is your orthopedic. 247 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 1: Surgeon people are confident or they're. NOT i don't have 248 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 1: to love my. Pilot can you get me through a lightning? 249 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:24,319 Speaker 1: Storm and Take my takeaway is you have been able. 250 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 1: There And i'm not even gonna tell you. 251 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 3: Who told me. 252 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 1: This i'll just SAY i talked to two coaches WHO i, 253 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 1: respect and they, said here's What patino. Does one of them, was, 254 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 1: man they're. Practices rick's gonna work. You those are tough 255 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 1: practices if you were Scouting Rick, patino and don't be humble. 256 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:46,319 Speaker 3: Here what do you, Think? Rick what is your? 257 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 1: Belief what are the two things that have made you 258 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 1: capable OF i Thought Saint john's they've been trying for 259 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 1: twenty years to turn it. Around what is your? Secret 260 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:56,319 Speaker 1: SAUCE a couple of tenants from that. 261 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:00,719 Speaker 5: Well we have played development sessions every Month monday Through, 262 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 5: friday where we go three to four different sessions with four, 263 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 5: players and we try to take players like A Donovan 264 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 5: mitchell And Terry rogier who maybe's not ranked top twenty 265 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 5: twenty five in high. School they've got a little bit 266 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 5: of a. Weakness Donovan mitchell had a weakness with the 267 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 5: ark on his jump. Shot everybody's got a weakness coming 268 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 5: out that's not top. Ten so we try to take 269 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:25,199 Speaker 5: those player development sessions and make the players. Better our, practices, 270 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:28,440 Speaker 5: yes are very, difficult BUT i will say, this they're not. 271 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 5: Long we don't go more than two, hours but we 272 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 5: go hard for two. Hours we're up and down for two. 273 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 5: Hours IF i make a comment a, correction it's going 274 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 5: to be within twelve, seconds and then we're moving. On 275 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:45,080 Speaker 5: because conditioning is a gigantic part of our style of. 276 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:47,560 Speaker 1: Play, yeah, no, NO i heard that At louisville as. 277 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 1: Well SO i got to ask you About Caitlin. Clark 278 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 1: So i've always tried to defend general managers in THE 279 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 1: nba in THE. Nfl it's not an exact. SCIENCE a 280 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 1: kid becomes a, pro now he gets. Money you don't. 281 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 1: KNOW i was going to, react he may miss home 282 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 1: if he played At, alabama now he's playing In. 283 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 3: Seattle you just don't. Know i've got. 284 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 1: Kids you just don't. Know Gino oriama, Said, Hey caitlin 285 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 1: will be. Fine but give me a, break she won't 286 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 1: be that. Good, Well gino knows basketball pretty well and 287 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 1: he undervalued. Her when you Watch Caitlin, clark what do 288 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 1: you see? That you, Go, wow that is. SPECIAL i 289 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 1: mean she can shoot, obviously what. Else, well she's a great. 290 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 5: Passer she reminds me Of Steph curry When Steph curry 291 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 5: came into the. League she's doing what step did early. 292 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 5: On she has unbelievable, range she has great. Visions she's 293 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 5: a terrific. Passive you, know she's physically a little, weak 294 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 5: but that's that's she'll she'll get stronger as time goes. 295 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 5: On but she really understands how to. Play and she 296 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 5: reminds me of a female version Of Steph. Curry incredible, Range. 297 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 3: Yeah she really. DOES i want to go back to THE. 298 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 1: Nil here's my only knock on THE nil transfer. PORTAL 299 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 1: i think sometimes it's the wild Wild. WEST i don't. 300 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 1: Think my take is you should not be able to 301 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 1: transfer once you go to a school eighteen. Months can't. 302 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 1: Transfer everybody always, says, well the coaches, Leave no they. Don't, 303 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 1: no coaches aren't leaving in the middle of A coaches 304 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 1: aren't leaving that. Much the bottom line is most of 305 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 1: you guys never want to. Leave the athletic director asks 306 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 1: you relieve so and also managers and let my bosses 307 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 1: have things At fox THAT i don't. Get they Should 308 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 1: they're responsible For. Fox i'm just responsible for my. Show 309 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 1: SO i do think coaches are different than. Players but 310 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 1: here's WHAT i don't like about THE nil is That 311 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 1: i'm not going to fight through. It louisville wants, me 312 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 1: they'll pay me. 313 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 3: MORE i. 314 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 1: DON'T i, MEAN i look At Michael jordan's career and 315 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 1: it's really steeped in failure, early which makes him. Great 316 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 1: THE nil worries me that we're taking away the hurdling 317 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 1: and the bulldozing of, obstacles that it's just easier to go. 318 00:15:57,200 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 3: Make twice the. 319 00:15:57,880 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 1: MONEY i, mean, because let's face, it if you play, 320 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 1: it they recuse and they recruited, you you can go 321 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 1: down a level and get more money potentially because you're 322 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 1: a great. 323 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 3: Player that part bothers. Me does it bother? 324 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 6: You? 325 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 3: YEAH i think that's the next the weakness of THE. 326 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 5: Nil, now during the, year we would meet with our 327 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 5: general manager and he would say to, me yet this 328 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 5: young man is thinking of transfer. Ic wait a, second 329 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 5: It's january and the guy's killing. It he's having a great. 330 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 5: Season why would he think about. Transferring, well he's just not. 331 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 5: Happy he can make more money. Elsewhere and that's the 332 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 5: bad thing OF. Dnil it's so many agents out there 333 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 5: are negotiating during the year to. 334 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 3: Get a player more. Money and who's involved in this? 335 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 5: NOW i will say, this more so than any period 336 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 5: of my fifty one years in, COACHING i have never 337 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 5: seen parents as involved in this whole thing Like i'm 338 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 5: seeing in the last four to five. Years WHEN i 339 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 5: first started recruiting thirty forty years, ago parents you go 340 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:00,080 Speaker 5: in the, home you meet, them and that was the 341 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 5: extent of after the campus, visit parents were really in the. Background, 342 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:08,439 Speaker 5: today total. Opposite the parents are on the forefront of. 343 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:12,359 Speaker 5: Everything and the reason being the money is so substantial 344 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:18,439 Speaker 5: that now agents handle is the. Parents everybody's involved in 345 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 5: all of. This it's never a SITUATION i never have 346 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:24,199 Speaker 5: to go into a home. Anymore they visit campus and 347 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 5: you should see the legions of people that come to these. 348 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:29,640 Speaker 3: Kids, yeah let me ask. 349 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 1: You it's interesting about this when when you look at this. 350 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 3: DRAFT i said this. 351 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 1: Earlier you can look at THE nfl and, go that's 352 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 1: a good draft because they're twenty three year. OLDS i 353 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:42,199 Speaker 1: got four years of. TAPE i don't think we're ever 354 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 1: gonna have great drafts. AGAIN i think we're gonna have 355 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 1: great prospects in the, draft Like Cooper. Flag but how 356 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 1: would you categorize if you were a scout in THE, 357 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:56,160 Speaker 1: nba how would you categorize this? Draft can you have 358 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:57,440 Speaker 1: a GREAT nba draft? 359 00:17:57,480 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 3: Anymore with all the? 360 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:03,120 Speaker 5: Youth, WELL i think this draft is not as strong as. 361 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 5: OTHERS i think this, draft certainly the players from duca. 362 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:12,400 Speaker 5: TERRIFIC i look at how they can, contribute not only 363 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 5: right away but down the. 364 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 3: Road who has great? 365 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 5: Upside and there are players here that have, upside especially 366 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:22,200 Speaker 5: To european basketball. Players for some, Reason france is now 367 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 5: an untapped. Country they are really developing outstanding basketball players 368 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:31,199 Speaker 5: and it's gotten very, competitive and so you don't know 369 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 5: about the foreign players they come. In they may have 370 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 5: more upside because they're not seen as much as the college. 371 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 3: Kids you threw out the first pitch At Yankee. 372 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:45,359 Speaker 1: Stadium if you were not a basketball, coach where is 373 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:46,640 Speaker 1: baseball in your life right? 374 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 3: Now were you a baseball? Fan, WELL i grew. 375 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 5: UP i lived in The bronx in the summertime with my, 376 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 5: grandparents AND i would my two girl cousins WHO i 377 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 5: was about ten nine. Ten we would take one subway 378 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:04,159 Speaker 5: stop The Yankee stadium AND i would watch Man, O 379 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 5: maris Wow, Well Quebec Cleatis, Boyer Bobby, Richison Moose, scarett 380 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 5: A Whitey ford on the. Mound and SO i became 381 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:14,919 Speaker 5: a Huge yankee fan from those days as a, youngster 382 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 5: and Today I'M i bought four season tickets right behind 383 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 5: The yankee. 384 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 3: Dugout is nothing better. 385 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:23,640 Speaker 5: For me than just sitting there having a cold beer 386 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 5: and watching the plays At Yankee. Stadium it's it's really 387 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 5: a great. Moment, yeah you, know you can just sit 388 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 5: there and relax and. Decompress. 389 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:34,639 Speaker 1: Yeah every other sport has a certain level of, urgency 390 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 1: and baseball is the one that doesn't have the. Clock 391 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:40,639 Speaker 1: AND i find myself when you go to a baseball, 392 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 1: game it feels. 393 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 3: Different you can have a conversation with a. 394 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 1: Friend just just make sure When Aaron judge comes, up 395 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:47,920 Speaker 1: if he fouls one, off you're paying. 396 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 3: Attention you. Know you know what's. 397 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 5: Funny WHEN i first broke into, business THE nba and 398 00:19:56,040 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 5: THE nfl were like, this college, football college, basketball we're 399 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 5: on equal. Terms, today THE nfl and college football have 400 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:09,160 Speaker 5: just raised the boss so high that we're not even 401 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 5: in a Bad saturday college football game will outdraw. 402 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:13,880 Speaker 3: AN nba playoff. 403 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:17,479 Speaker 5: Game. Yeah so football has just reached a level where 404 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 5: six days a, week all the talk shows are just 405 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 5: talking about THE. Nfl And i'm sure the gambling component 406 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:25,639 Speaker 5: has a lot to do with, it one game per, 407 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:27,640 Speaker 5: week no question about. 408 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 3: It but the popularity of. 409 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:32,159 Speaker 5: Football today just blows me away from where it was 410 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 5: thirty years. 411 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:35,439 Speaker 1: Ago you, KNOW i did you? Know And i'll tell you, 412 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 1: This AND i Told Adam sober. THIS i think THE 413 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 1: nba marginalized college. Basketball THE nfl is always understood it's best. 414 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 1: Friend it's ally is college. Football it micro waves the. 415 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 1: Stars AND i, think And i've Told adam, this AND 416 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:51,360 Speaker 1: i Love, adam BUT i, thought it's like w' into 417 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 1: the G league. 418 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 3: And i'm like time. Out the coaching's better in. 419 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 1: College the environments in college get you ready for THE. 420 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:02,159 Speaker 1: Nba you go play At kentucky'll play At. Syracuse that's 421 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 1: AN nba, environment a playoff. Environment you don't get that 422 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 1: in THE G, league AND i THINK i think they found. 423 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:12,160 Speaker 1: OUT i think they found out that college basketball That march. 424 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 1: Tournament it's free advertising and the coaching's. Better so if 425 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 1: you looked at the, Finals Rick oksee In, indy you 426 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:22,679 Speaker 1: know you didn't SEE g. Leaguers it was actually not 427 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 1: only college. Guys it Was Obie, toppins it WAS, tj 428 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:30,440 Speaker 1: it was multiple years of college. BASKETBALL i thought THE 429 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 1: Nba finals was an advertisement for college basketball AND i loved. 430 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:38,200 Speaker 5: It, yeah And Adam silva is thinking about. It i've 431 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 5: heard him talk about it about going, global having A EuroLeague, 432 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:46,679 Speaker 5: overseas AND i think that would be great because then 433 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:49,920 Speaker 5: you could take your Young europeans or maybe college guys 434 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 5: that are, ready put them in a professional environment like 435 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 5: The EuroLeague is over, there and to get them ready 436 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 5: for THE. NBA i think it's something that we're looking 437 00:21:58,240 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 5: at down the. 438 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 3: Road, rick what a real pleasure for. 439 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 1: Us you've got a mind that is rarely rivaled in your, sport, international, DOMESTIC, 440 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:11,199 Speaker 1: nba AND i just appreciate you taking twenty. Minutes you're 441 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 1: a busy. Guy good luck To Saint. JOHN'S i FOUND 442 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 1: i said it last. YEAR i don't care who gets. 443 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:18,160 Speaker 1: IN i Want Cooper, Flag Tom, izzo And Rick patino 444 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 1: in the final. Four whoever else makes, It i'm. GOOD 445 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:23,679 Speaker 1: i was fascinated by your story and your Team this 446 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:25,160 Speaker 1: year with the incoming class looks. 447 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 3: Great so, congrats thanks so May thanks for having. 448 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 1: Me you Bet Rick, patino who has TURNED i mean listen. 449 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 1: Man Saint john's is a great. Story they're playing at The. 450 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,879 Speaker 1: Garden you got a great, coach he knows THE. Nba 451 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:39,200 Speaker 1: they've some of their, boosters and they got a couple 452 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 1: boosters that got. Money Saint john's basketball is good for college. 453 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:46,200 Speaker 1: Basketball it feels With patino in The. Garden it feels Big. 454 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:47,919 Speaker 2: Bill that was. 455 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:49,879 Speaker 3: Cool, yeah the guy knows his. 456 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 2: Stuff that was. 457 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 7: Cool one more. Heard The herd streams twenty four hours a, 458 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 7: day seven days a week within The iHeartRadio. 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Coach SO i think what happens in a, 504 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 1: dynasty it's hard to let go because for twenty years 505 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:09,399 Speaker 1: everything worked with a defensive culture and defensive. Mindset so you're, like, 506 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 1: Well Gerrad mayo embodies a lot of Those Garad, Mayo 507 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:18,360 Speaker 1: we're not even, Sure like he six weeks, In you're, 508 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:21,439 Speaker 1: Like i'm not, sure especially with a rookie quarterback in 509 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:25,119 Speaker 1: a division With Josh, Allen, like was he going to 510 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 1: be a guy that was ever going to? 511 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 3: Succeed. 512 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 4: YEAH i think With belichick it was always going to 513 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 4: end a little. Rough Once brady bounced in The Mac 514 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 4: jones thing and Then josh McDaniels. LEFT i do Think 515 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 4: patriot Fans Robert craft, included it doesn't get Any we're 516 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 4: never seeing that, again the twenty plus years of the two, 517 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,440 Speaker 4: guys even Coach reid In, MAHOMES i mean coach reads 518 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:47,679 Speaker 4: in his bit. Sixties you know When belichick when they started, 519 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:50,920 Speaker 4: THAT i Think bill was about late, forties early, fifties 520 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:54,400 Speaker 4: so we had a longer, runway and you, know life 521 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:56,200 Speaker 4: was pretty, good AND i think they got a little 522 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:58,920 Speaker 4: sense of this is THE. Nfl sometimes you make a bad, 523 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 4: higher you make a bad. Pick Obviously bill made a. 524 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:05,119 Speaker 4: Few you picked the wrong. Quarterback, yeah that's what you. 525 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:08,359 Speaker 4: Get AND i think it's got to be humbling for 526 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 4: them dominating that division and now Seeing buffalo turn into The, patriots, 527 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 4: RIGHT i, mean they were just running away with that 528 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 4: division every single. 529 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 3: Year, well it generally works that. 530 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 1: Way Peyton manning To Andrew luck is a total outlier 531 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:24,879 Speaker 1: far To rogers is an. Outlier the dynasty usually ends 532 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 1: and somebody else gets the. Quarterback AND i also think 533 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 1: the league pivoted the last couple of years In bill's 534 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 1: coaching With, brady it pivoted to an offensive, league and 535 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 1: The patriots couldn't draft skill, players SO i think the 536 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:40,680 Speaker 1: last couple of, years And Tom brady saw this because 537 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 1: he said he was going to leave a year out 538 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,639 Speaker 1: before he, left it was starting to crumble in that 539 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:46,400 Speaker 1: last Year tom was In New. 540 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:48,919 Speaker 4: England, Well i'll Give Robert kraft and The craft family 541 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 4: credit on this. One they made a bad mistake In 542 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:53,399 Speaker 4: mayo and they pivoted immediately and they. 543 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 2: Win Got vrabel who's, available AND. 544 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 4: I don't know if it's, lucky but it's going to work, 545 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 4: OUT i think pretty well for The. Patriots, okay onto THE, 546 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 4: nba where the draft obviously tips off, tonight with The 547 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:06,919 Speaker 4: MAVs expected to Select Cooper flag with the number one overall. 548 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:10,440 Speaker 4: Pick dallas got extremely lucky landing the pick after trading 549 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:13,679 Speaker 4: Away luca mid, season And flag was asked about the 550 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 4: preseped the pressure of Succeeding Luka. 551 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 8: DUNGEON i wouldn't look at anything as. PRESSURE i, think you, 552 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 8: know any going into whatever SITUATION i go, Into i'm 553 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 8: just gonna try and be myself all the, time And 554 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:28,680 Speaker 8: i'm gonna push myself to be better and better every single, 555 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 8: day and And i'll make the most out of every, 556 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 8: day you, Know i'm not worried about living up to 557 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 8: certain players expectations or are are things like. That i'm 558 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:38,360 Speaker 8: just gonna be myself and really just trying to get 559 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 8: better every single day THAT i. 560 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:41,639 Speaker 3: CAN i don't think he has to Replace. 561 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,919 Speaker 1: Luca luca is viewed as a mistake by the general. 562 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 1: Manager that player is tied forever To Nico. Harris that's 563 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 1: not A Jason kidd. Problem that's not A Cooper flag replaced. 564 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 1: Problem cooper's a fresh start after what's perceived as a 565 00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:00,400 Speaker 1: mistake by ownership and the front. OFFICE i don't look 566 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,199 Speaker 1: at it and, think, oh, kid you better be as 567 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 1: good As. Luca luca is an international, Player luca should 568 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,639 Speaker 1: still be, there SO i don't see him as. REPLACED 569 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 1: i think it's a JUST i, think AND i also 570 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:15,119 Speaker 1: Think cooper's a different. Player he's much better. Defensively he's 571 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 1: a domestic. Player we watched him in college, that Like, 572 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 1: luca came from nowhere unless you were A diard. BASKETBALL 573 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:25,159 Speaker 1: i don't see the. Correlation Not chevy. NO i mean 574 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 1: it's like that's not an, Issue Like luca is just 575 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 1: an all time prodigy, offensively whereas we think Of Cooper 576 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 1: flagg as he's not an all time. Prodigy he's a 577 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 1: highly well rounded duke. 578 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:36,200 Speaker 2: PLAYER i also think it's a little. 579 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 4: Easier, obviously The mavericks are a BIG nba, brand but 580 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 4: they're the second brand in their city with The Dallas 581 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 4: cowboys going into the. Ball this is not like a 582 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 4: situation if The luca situation had been on the reverse 583 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:50,240 Speaker 4: to The lakers or to The, celtics where THE nba 584 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 4: team is. King he kind of gets to ease, in 585 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,240 Speaker 4: and like you, said fans aren't mad at. Him he 586 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 4: had nothing to do with. It if, anything If i'm a, 587 00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 4: FAN i was. Out Now i'm kind of creeping back. 588 00:28:59,760 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 3: In. 589 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,719 Speaker 4: YEP i. Agree, okay, last but not, least sticking with 590 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 4: THE nba The thunder they are, off obviously winning THE 591 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 4: Nba championship Big game seven win over The. Pacers despite 592 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 4: raising the, TROPHY a recent report indicates That Sam presty 593 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 4: is looking to trade up into the top, ten building 594 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 4: a package around a bunch of picks, fifteen. 595 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 2: Twenty, four forty. 596 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 4: Four colin crazy to think The thunders could add a 597 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 4: top ten. 598 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 2: Pick no after winning the, Finals. 599 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 1: No this is exactly what you should. DO i want 600 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 1: to take you to a football. Thing remember years ago 601 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 1: With Marty schottenheimer when The chargers had like Twelve pro 602 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 1: bowlers AND Aj, smith THE gm gave up all these 603 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 1: picks for the safety From Utah Eric weddle, Yep AND 604 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 1: i REMEMBER Aj smith saying there are not four kids 605 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 1: in this draft that can start or play for. Us 606 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 1: we need a. Safety that guy's. Great so my take 607 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 1: is they have such. Depth now you could draft. 608 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 3: Four, guys two may not make the. 609 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 1: Roster you're much better off going and getting the sixth 610 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 1: pick and saying this guy is immediately a rotational. PLAYER 611 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 1: i think when you're good and, young and it's very, 612 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 1: rare you're not usually this good in this young but 613 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 1: when you, are they don't need a bunch of. Youth 614 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 1: what they need is the best player they can get 615 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 1: out of this. 616 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 3: Draft how many guys in this draft. 617 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 1: Could make their roster five less AND i would say 618 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 1: less with their current. 619 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 3: Picks but if you could get the fifth pick or. 620 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 1: The sixth, Pick, okay that guy's gonna play next. Year 621 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 1: now he may be the third guy off the, bench 622 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 1: but it's such an. Advantage it's so rare historically for 623 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 1: a young team to win a. Title they don't need more, 624 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 1: youth they need the best of the. 625 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 4: Youth CAN i give you another football, Example Thomas Demetrov 626 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 4: once upon a time when he Had Matt. Ryan, Yes belichick, 627 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 4: said don't do. It he, Said i'm trading way up 628 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 4: For Julio. Jones, NOW i don't know if there's A 629 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 4: Julio jones at pick five or six in THIS nba, 630 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 4: draft BUT i think that logic when you especially when 631 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 4: you factor in the. MONEY i think the question Was Sam, 632 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 4: presti who just nails draft fix is? 633 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 2: INCREDIBLE. 634 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:05,000 Speaker 4: Gm this owner in your backyard here with The, lakers 635 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 4: all that. MONEY i, mean he's he's the top. Dog 636 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,480 Speaker 4: they're gonna come after him pretty, CONSISTENTLY i would. 637 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 1: IMAGINE i think you're right On John middlecoff with the. 638 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:18,320 Speaker 7: News, well that's the, news and thanks for stopping. That 639 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:19,640 Speaker 7: The herd. 640 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 1: Line Cleveland brown quarterback. Situation and it's Not shado who 641 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:27,080 Speaker 1: is turning. Heads remember we're Off shador and there's a 642 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 1: rumor The spurs are going to trade the number two. 643 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 3: Pick i'll have thoughts on. 644 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 7: That be sure to catch live editions Of The herd 645 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 7: weekdays at noon eastern nine Am pacific On Fox Sports 646 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,360 Speaker 7: RADIO fs one and The iHeartRadio. 647 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 4: App, saturday It's Baseball night In america On fox and 648 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 4: two of the league's best face, Office Kyle tucker leads 649 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,880 Speaker 4: The cubs Against Jose altuve and the aspis for The 650 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 4: phillies take on the. Breaks check out local listings for 651 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 4: the game in your. Area, saturday it's Seven eastern On. 652 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:03,240 Speaker 1: Fox i've said in The, east one of the TEAMS 653 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 1: i like Is orlando Bang Caro, Wagner Jalen. Suggs and 654 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 1: then they go Get Desmond bay and they've got their core. 655 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 1: Four AND i think these days you kind of need 656 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:15,120 Speaker 1: a core. FOUR i think you just Watched Oklahoma. City 657 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 1: you GOT, sga you got like a Chedd, holgern A Jay. 658 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 1: Dubb you've got you, know Either Lou Dort. Cruz so 659 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 1: you got your core. Four Maybe hartenstein's that fourth. Guy 660 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,600 Speaker 1: so there's a report today that The San Antonio spurs 661 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 1: they've already Got, wimby so they got their big they 662 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 1: Got Stefan, castle so they've got their combo. Guard they've 663 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 1: Got Jeremy, sohan who's a quirky, player but he's. There he's, There, 664 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 1: rodman he's, There, forward he's. There you, know kind of 665 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,800 Speaker 1: a unique. PLAYER i do not think they're going to 666 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 1: trade the number two pick And Dylan. HARPER i think 667 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 1: he is going to be their core for. Now somebody 668 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:50,719 Speaker 1: comes on the, phone there's a report that they they 669 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 1: would accept the trade with a ridiculous Hul you always 670 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 1: pick up the. Phone unless you Have Patrick mahomes or 671 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 1: A Josh, allen you picked the phone. Up SO i 672 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 1: think the two things The spurs have going for. Them number, 673 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 1: one The San antonio community trusts. Them there's so much 674 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:08,720 Speaker 1: equity with the five titles since ninety nine that they'll be. 675 00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:11,800 Speaker 1: Patient it doesn't matter that they're. Young the fans in 676 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:15,800 Speaker 1: the media are all. In and number two, advantages they're 677 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,240 Speaker 1: the only game in. Town like In Los, angeles they'd be, 678 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:21,560 Speaker 1: like trade the, pick you got The dodgers. Winning harbaugh's 679 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 1: in town with The, chargers The, RAMS usc and the 680 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 1: big ten In Los, angeles you know you got you. 681 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 1: Gotta they've got too many Options San. Antonio if you got, 682 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:34,440 Speaker 1: money you're a season ticket. Holder SO i think the 683 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 1: core four is gonna. STAY i don't think they're gonna trade. 684 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,600 Speaker 1: HIM i Mean San antonio With wemby only won thirty 685 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 1: four games last. Year they only won twenty two games 686 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 1: in year one With. Wemby in six seasons they HAVE 687 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:50,640 Speaker 1: i think thirty four wins as. Tops so nobody's screaming 688 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,600 Speaker 1: in the, media nobody is screaming in the fan base 689 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:55,480 Speaker 1: that you got to move this pick and get a. 690 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 1: VETERAN i THINK i think they're gonna Keep Dylan harper 691 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 1: in the. PICK i think they're gonna move Dearon. Fox 692 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 1: that's WHAT i think they're gonna. Do so my, protection 693 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:07,280 Speaker 1: my prediction is they keep the. Pick harper's not ready 694 00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:08,799 Speaker 1: to be. Great he's probably in the third or fourth 695 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:10,880 Speaker 1: inning of what he'll, be but he's got a lot of. 696 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:14,840 Speaker 1: Traits Rick betino was on talking about, that and again 697 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,719 Speaker 1: you pick up the. Phone but San antonio has so 698 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:21,040 Speaker 1: much equity built in the organization that there is no 699 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 1: immediate need to. 700 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:23,960 Speaker 3: Win you can be. 701 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 1: Young people feel like In San antonio it's the only 702 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:29,480 Speaker 1: game in. Town you're along for the. Journey you know 703 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:31,759 Speaker 1: your team better than anybody else. Does you're not getting you, 704 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,280 Speaker 1: know San antonio two years ago is not getting on NATIONAL. 705 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:37,200 Speaker 1: Tv they're accumulating. Picks we don't know how GOOD sga 706 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:38,960 Speaker 1: is going to be SO i think they keep the 707 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 1: pick they've. Got you, Know pop is not. Coaching they 708 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 1: got a new. Coach people will be. Patient one of 709 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 1: the things that really Hurts New, York chicago AND la 710 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:50,360 Speaker 1: teams is. IMPATIENCE i, mean how many games Is Russell 711 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,600 Speaker 1: wilson you going to get before they Play Jackson dart. 712 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,720 Speaker 1: Four you, know in the smaller everybody was always afraid 713 00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:59,719 Speaker 1: of big. MARKETS i don't like slow. DOWN i said for, 714 00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 1: Years New york teams are, Bad The bears are, Bad 715 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:06,359 Speaker 1: washington was. Bad the pressure that talk radio and the 716 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,920 Speaker 1: owners listen to, that and the relentless, newspapers and the 717 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 1: fans have multiple. Options they'll go watch the baseball, team 718 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:14,560 Speaker 1: or THE nba, team or THE nfl, team of the 719 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:15,200 Speaker 1: local college. 720 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,319 Speaker 3: Team they got things to. Do in these big. 721 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,120 Speaker 1: Cities a lot of people making money got a second. 722 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,120 Speaker 1: Home they'll go to the. Beach And i've always said 723 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:23,520 Speaker 1: this About Los. Angeles if you don't, win people don't 724 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:25,400 Speaker 1: give up their season, tickets but they just go To 725 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:27,080 Speaker 1: vegas or they go to the beach and they move. 726 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:30,040 Speaker 1: On Los angeles is lucky that a lot of stars 727 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:31,799 Speaker 1: want to play here because of the winter weather is so, 728 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 1: nice BUT i Think San antonio has such an advantage 729 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:40,239 Speaker 1: of equity only game in. Town it doesn't matter if 730 00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:43,919 Speaker 1: next year they went only forty. Games nobody's calling for anybody's. Head, 731 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:49,040 Speaker 1: okay SO i saw this, story AND i know he's 732 00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:54,399 Speaker 1: a little, flaky But brown's a wide. Receiver Deon Day, 733 00:35:54,600 --> 00:36:01,400 Speaker 1: johnson a little, flaky believes that Won Kenny pickett will 734 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:05,479 Speaker 1: emerge as the team's starting. Quarterback so it is time 735 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:09,520 Speaker 1: for our first edition of The Kenny Picket Press. Gazette 736 00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:14,200 Speaker 1: extra extra read all about. It high praise from the 737 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:19,720 Speaker 1: very Trustable Deontay. Johnson i'm also Told Kenny pickett drives 738 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:23,280 Speaker 1: the speed limit and comes to a complete stop at every. 739 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 1: Opportunity this is WHAT i like to. SEE a veteran 740 00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:31,720 Speaker 1: supporting a young, MAN a trustable veteran Supporting Kenny. PICKETT 741 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,120 Speaker 1: i Know deontay can be a bit. 742 00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:34,560 Speaker 3: Of a head. 743 00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:39,239 Speaker 1: Case do not attack the. MESSENGER i Trust Deontay johnson's. 744 00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:44,520 Speaker 1: Opinion Kenny pickett is now the quarterback of note the. 745 00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:50,440 Speaker 1: Quarterback we will discuss first edition of The Kenny Pickett Press. 746 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:54,279 Speaker 1: Gazette apparently he has looked very. Good you, KNOW i 747 00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:56,960 Speaker 1: haven't asked, you who do you think wins this quarterback? 748 00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:00,279 Speaker 4: Competition you know what Team Deontay johnson was on last. 749 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:03,880 Speaker 4: Year it's called the waiver. Wire that's where he. WAS 750 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:08,040 Speaker 4: i think we gotta be. CAREFUL i Think Joe flacco 751 00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:11,160 Speaker 4: will win, it but, uh you, know the one of 752 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:12,239 Speaker 4: the rookies will be In. 753 00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:13,600 Speaker 2: And you AND i have talked about. 754 00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:17,480 Speaker 4: This the coaching staff Wanted Dylan gabriel From, oregon, right 755 00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:18,839 Speaker 4: that's why they drafted him in the third. 756 00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:21,399 Speaker 2: Round the owner oneted the other guy in the fifth. 757 00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:23,880 Speaker 4: Round, NOW i think the coaching staff can push back 758 00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:26,239 Speaker 4: a little bit after. Him we told you a couple of. 759 00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:28,279 Speaker 4: Tickets but he's still on the. Team they're not going 760 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:31,640 Speaker 4: to cut. Him so bizarre, situation but it's it's The Cleveland, 761 00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:34,680 Speaker 4: browns and that's what tends to. HAPPEN i think what's 762 00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:36,840 Speaker 4: what they should have, done and it was he asked 763 00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,600 Speaker 4: for a. Trade they could have reset everything by Trading Miles. 764 00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:41,600 Speaker 4: Garrett now they were able to still make that trade 765 00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:44,200 Speaker 4: With Travis. Hunter THEIR gm and their coach are. GOOD 766 00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,480 Speaker 4: i think they are a well run. Organization the owner 767 00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:49,800 Speaker 4: just he just can't help. Himself he just likes to 768 00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:50,360 Speaker 4: get active in. 769 00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:54,000 Speaker 1: Football, NO i was telling somebody the, great late Great 770 00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:57,759 Speaker 1: Jim ersay was a remarkable human, being tons of, compassion fascinating. 771 00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:01,600 Speaker 1: Guy in the last couple of, years, THOUGH i thought 772 00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,000 Speaker 1: he got, really really, impulsive and you're kind of as an, 773 00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:07,000 Speaker 1: organization you're a little bit trapped because you, know Like 774 00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:09,640 Speaker 1: Carson wentz had a really good, year bad game At, 775 00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:12,319 Speaker 1: jacksonville and they're, like get him out of. Town, Well 776 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:13,920 Speaker 1: Chris baller didn't want to get him out of. Town 777 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:15,560 Speaker 1: the staff didn't want to get him out of. Town 778 00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:18,200 Speaker 1: Think frank W reich was the coach that liked, him 779 00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:21,480 Speaker 1: and SO i kind of feel, like you, Know Jimmy, 780 00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:25,440 Speaker 1: haslam Like Johnny, manziel the staff wanted to Draft Teddy. 781 00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:30,520 Speaker 1: Bridgewater he Liked Deshaun. Watson guaranteed. CONTRACTS i, mean first of, 782 00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:34,000 Speaker 1: all guaranteed contracts are. Rare with his, baggage you wouldn't 783 00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,040 Speaker 1: do it. Now baker is the best of all their. 784 00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:38,600 Speaker 1: Quarterbacks baker's better than all these guys they have right. 785 00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:42,520 Speaker 1: Now but, again that was a, hootspa you, know let's 786 00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:45,120 Speaker 1: go for. IT i Like baker's, Attitude SO i do 787 00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:47,440 Speaker 1: think sometimes the owners do get in the, way AND 788 00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:49,360 Speaker 1: i Feel cleveland's owner has gotten in the. Way AND 789 00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,000 Speaker 1: i Think Jim mersey was, remarkable BUT i think in 790 00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:54,759 Speaker 1: his last three or four, years The Andrew luck, retirement 791 00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:56,719 Speaker 1: they got a little impulsive. 792 00:38:56,800 --> 00:39:00,120 Speaker 2: UPSTAIRS i think you could always scout a draft. Room you, 793 00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:01,120 Speaker 2: know sometimes. 794 00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:02,880 Speaker 4: The owner he's just eating sushi or sandwich in the, 795 00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,279 Speaker 4: corner letting HIS gm and coach. Cook and then there's 796 00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:08,000 Speaker 4: The jimmy types that are kind of right in between 797 00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:10,399 Speaker 4: the two and a chair, hovering you, know giving them 798 00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:13,520 Speaker 4: their pointers what they believe their draft. Board the worst 799 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:15,640 Speaker 4: of all time Was Dan, snyder who'd have his own 800 00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:18,239 Speaker 4: draft board and implement that thing the day of the. 801 00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:19,719 Speaker 2: Draft, yeah BUT i. 802 00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:24,080 Speaker 4: Think The Shador, Sanders Joe, Flacco Canny pickett is just 803 00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:25,360 Speaker 4: a disaster waiting to have it. 804 00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:27,200 Speaker 2: GOING i, mean it's not going to be. Good. 805 00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:32,040 Speaker 1: YEAH i mean there's last, year for one of the 806 00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:35,160 Speaker 1: only TIMES i, remember the bottom of THE nfl looked 807 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,000 Speaker 1: like the bottom of THE. Nba that are like eight 808 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:41,440 Speaker 1: teams that could not. Compete giants just could not, compete you, 809 00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:47,520 Speaker 1: Know Saints. RAIDERS i think last year's quarterback draft class 810 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:52,600 Speaker 1: again takes some wabbily franchises and solidifies, them kind of 811 00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:56,480 Speaker 1: modifies HOW i view. THEM i do Think, cleveland The, 812 00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,040 Speaker 1: saints and Both New york teams are on a short. 813 00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:02,160 Speaker 1: List IF I i had a guest, today the bottom 814 00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:09,360 Speaker 1: four teams showing the limitations of, coaching although it's, IMPORTANT 815 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:12,640 Speaker 1: i would Say, saints he'll be the worst team in the. 816 00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:16,680 Speaker 1: League giant, Second, cleveland, Third jets. 817 00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:19,440 Speaker 2: Fourth the one Thing cleveland they had The jags. 818 00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:21,520 Speaker 4: Pick, NOW i don't know how bad The jags are 819 00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:23,279 Speaker 4: going to, be but they're gonna have some amo next. 820 00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:25,640 Speaker 4: Year and, well it looks like a pretty good quarterback 821 00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:30,120 Speaker 4: class in. College SO i would guess that they drafted 822 00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:33,480 Speaker 4: two quarterbacks in twenty twenty five and draft another quarterback 823 00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:36,200 Speaker 4: in twenty twenty. Six probably not the ideal, strategy but 824 00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:38,480 Speaker 4: it's it's one they've implemented there in Clear, well. 825 00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:41,760 Speaker 1: It did work For. Arizona Steve kimes, Said, okay we're gonna. 826 00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:44,319 Speaker 3: Go Get Kyler murray After. 827 00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:48,120 Speaker 1: Rosen, yeah and it's Like i've had a cigar or 828 00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:50,160 Speaker 1: two With steven talked about that and he just, said hey, 829 00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:52,200 Speaker 1: man we looked at you, know we looked at all 830 00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:54,520 Speaker 1: the film and we just Said we're trying to catch 831 00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:57,160 Speaker 1: up to The niners and The rams and The, seahawks 832 00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:00,000 Speaker 1: and this kid can help us catch up very very. Quickly, 833 00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:05,120 Speaker 1: ALSO i, THINK i mean the greatest coaches in the 834 00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:07,960 Speaker 1: history of the. LEAGUE i, mean Remember Andy, Reid Love 835 00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:10,600 Speaker 1: Kevin Kobb, like it's okay to miss on this. STUFF 836 00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:14,120 Speaker 1: i know that internet, trolls anonymous internet net trolls are never. 837 00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:16,480 Speaker 3: Wrong the rest of us are all the. 838 00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:20,319 Speaker 1: Time and it's Like Rick patino, said you're just projected THE. 839 00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:21,080 Speaker 3: Nba draft To. 840 00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:25,480 Speaker 1: Knight outside of about six players crossing your. Fingers they're mature, 841 00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:31,560 Speaker 1: enough they. Grow you're projecting our three on A wednesday. 842 00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:31,759 Speaker 1: Night