WEBVTT - “WE ARE FUCKED”

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, Hi, can I actually before we start, can I

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<v Speaker 1>just leave you with the stream for like a minute,

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<v Speaker 1>just go outside?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, you can go outside.

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<v Speaker 1>So that I don't like this disturb my family and ship.

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<v Speaker 2>Outside, go go get it, get out of here. Look

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<v Speaker 2>at this guy? Who is this guy?

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<v Speaker 1>Hi?

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<v Speaker 2>Greck? Hey man? What's your name?

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<v Speaker 1>I am Andy?

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<v Speaker 2>I noticed that you have a plus four to twenty

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<v Speaker 2>area code. What country is that?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, that's the Czech Republic. Moment the country will

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<v Speaker 1>fear and casual racism?

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<v Speaker 2>There we go for where in the church?

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<v Speaker 3>Public are.

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<v Speaker 1>Just in the Prague, you know region?

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<v Speaker 2>Cool man? I went to Prague like five years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>It was great. They have all these like cool underground

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<v Speaker 2>bars and ship they had what else do I remember

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<v Speaker 2>from pro? I have like some bread bowl gulash. Is

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<v Speaker 2>that what it's called?

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<v Speaker 1>What the fuck? I have no idea what that might be,

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<v Speaker 1>what that might be serving?

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<v Speaker 2>Well?

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<v Speaker 1>Is great though.

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<v Speaker 2>It's gulash not a pro.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah yeah. It is not not like Brog food.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe it's not even like Czech origin, but yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's heavily heavily eating here.

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<v Speaker 2>It sounds kind of like a It sounds kind of

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<v Speaker 2>like a death trap, like like if somebody has has

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<v Speaker 2>been arrested, you send them to the gulagh.

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<v Speaker 1>That's so good man, you can do this to me,

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<v Speaker 1>call you with a depression and you make my mood good.

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<v Speaker 1>Fuck you?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, what's up man? What's you had a Did you

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<v Speaker 2>have a particular thing you wanted to talk about?

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<v Speaker 1>Well? Yeah, sort of, it's been like a long time,

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<v Speaker 1>bruin like years and like ever since like a year ago.

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<v Speaker 1>I found your stream. I wanted to call in, but

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<v Speaker 1>I never actually dreamed of making it. Fucking hell, this

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<v Speaker 1>is awesome, so uh yeah, thank you, thank you. So

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<v Speaker 1>first of all, you know how the world is fucked? Right?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that where we're starting? The world is sucked?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, that's that's well, you know, let's start be everywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's start here. Let's start here. Why do you

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<v Speaker 2>why do you see everywhere that the world is fucked?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, just because it is. You know, like I know,

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<v Speaker 1>I consume like too much American like you know, info,

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<v Speaker 1>so I know way too much about American stuff, even

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<v Speaker 1>though the stuff here, you know, in Czech Republic is

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<v Speaker 1>basically fine, but like compared to America. But so but yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I just you know, I see all these like little

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<v Speaker 1>clues that you know, the capitalist system is fucking unsustainable

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<v Speaker 1>and we need just switch off it fucking quickly, allous

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<v Speaker 1>we want to I don't know, get burnt, I guess

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<v Speaker 1>you know stuff like that. And I think thinking that

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<v Speaker 1>maybe there's like a brute force method to it that

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<v Speaker 1>you might be or like someone like me might be

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<v Speaker 1>able to go out to, like I don't know, an

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<v Speaker 1>English speaking place, because that sure as shit end here

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<v Speaker 1>are you talking.

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<v Speaker 2>About trying to kill the president?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, exactly, you got it on the mail now and

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<v Speaker 1>of course not.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay for me real quick, So you're talking about a

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<v Speaker 2>brute force method. By the way, just in case if

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<v Speaker 2>any Secret Services members, we're talking about killing the presidents

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<v Speaker 2>in a video game of McDonald land, which is the

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<v Speaker 2>mayor mccheese, and that's not even a real person. But anyway, okay, exactly, So.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I wasn't talking about like a violent resolution. Just

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<v Speaker 1>you say yes, But I meant. What I meant was like,

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<v Speaker 1>the world is evolving and we are progressing into a

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<v Speaker 1>better future, but it's far too fucking slow. So I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to just like go out somewhere where a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people can speak English and understand, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like go to a fucking square and just speak my

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<v Speaker 1>mind about this. Just convince people that this it is

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<v Speaker 1>fucking wrong, because I know it is, you know, And

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<v Speaker 1>maybe that way we could just jump start the whole

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<v Speaker 1>process tucking in a day, maybe a week.

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<v Speaker 2>And you're talking about your you wanna you wanna go

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<v Speaker 2>to a town square and just start rallying people about

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<v Speaker 2>how the world is fucked.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, not just about how how the world is fucked,

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<v Speaker 1>but how we can fix it super easily if we

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<v Speaker 1>just you know, stop alienating everyone who's different and accept

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<v Speaker 1>some viewpoints that maybe don't really vibe with us or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>How do you think we can achieve world peace?

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<v Speaker 1>Andy, Well, you know drawing capitalism is the first thing,

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<v Speaker 1>because the way I see it, it's the it's the

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<v Speaker 1>top brass just you know, using this concept of money

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<v Speaker 1>who basically keep us in like what's called wage slavery,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, where people live pay check to paycheck and

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<v Speaker 1>they can't really improve their lives or you know, do

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<v Speaker 1>anything with the money because they all have it, they

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<v Speaker 1>have it all planned out with the money. So I've

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<v Speaker 1>got a question, they're not really good anywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I know that like America is I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm dumb. I don't know. I haven't read the books,

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<v Speaker 2>the Karl Marx stuff, but I know that America is

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<v Speaker 2>like known for like like as as I guess, the

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<v Speaker 2>most capitalist country, right, and everyone's like ah, and in

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<v Speaker 2>different places they do it better. But what's the system

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<v Speaker 2>in the Czech Republic? Is it the same thing or

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<v Speaker 2>do you guys do it differently?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's it's more or less the same, except you know,

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<v Speaker 1>over here in Europe, especially in the Union, we're a

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<v Speaker 1>bit more socialized or like, you know, we have a

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<v Speaker 1>bit more socialistic tendencies towards like healthcare and education, which

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<v Speaker 1>is sort of I see it as the basics of

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<v Speaker 1>what the state should fucking do. And you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>US system just uses all that to just make more money,

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<v Speaker 1>which is again capitalism, and it's you know, it gets

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<v Speaker 1>its fucking roots into everything and fucking corrupts it into

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<v Speaker 1>a way for someone one rich asshole sitting on one

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<v Speaker 1>rich asshole chair just to sit on a slightly bigger

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<v Speaker 1>pile of money.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>So this depression that you're talking about, Andy, is it

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<v Speaker 2>mainly centered around like social political economic issues at a

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<v Speaker 2>large scale.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you could argue that I'm just projecting this shit,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, the depression is just me and the

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<v Speaker 1>world isn't actually all that bad and it's getting better

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<v Speaker 1>as fast as it can. But I don't believe that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we're better as human beings, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>we could do a hell of a lot better if

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<v Speaker 1>we just communicated with each other.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, what's your personal life like? Do you go to school,

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<v Speaker 2>do you walk around? What do you do?

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<v Speaker 1>No? I dropped school right before finishing high school because

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<v Speaker 1>I saw it as a place of indoctrination basically. And now, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't work for like half a year after getting

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<v Speaker 1>getting fired from a wood shop, and then the wood

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<v Speaker 1>shop got fired too, and the warehouse that got left

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<v Speaker 1>hired me. Now, so that's what I'm doing now. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a warehouse worker, slowly no wages, warehouse worker, and just yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>feeling super beaten down by capitalism. I mean, I'm privileged,

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<v Speaker 1>I have no actual troubles, but I would like things

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<v Speaker 1>to be different because I know there's way too many

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<v Speaker 1>people that do face genuine fucking horrors, you know, mm hmm,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I just feel like if someone went

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<v Speaker 1>out and started talking about it honestly and passionately. People

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<v Speaker 1>would see capitalism for the monster that this fucking is.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I think is gonna happen, Andy, I

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<v Speaker 2>think you're gonna go it into the town square and

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<v Speaker 2>you're gonna step up on a on a box and

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<v Speaker 2>you're gonna rally the people of Prague and everyone's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be like yeah, fuck yah. And then you got you

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<v Speaker 2>got all these people and they're all gonna look at

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<v Speaker 2>you and be like, well, what do we do now?

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<v Speaker 2>And you're gonna be like, fuck, I don't get this far,

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<v Speaker 2>And then you guys can go storm a candy store

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<v Speaker 2>or something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah No, because I didn't. I don't think I would

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<v Speaker 1>I will get that far. But if I do, I

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<v Speaker 1>do have it fanned out.

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<v Speaker 2>You do it? So youah, you have you have a

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<v Speaker 2>whole revolution planned out.

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<v Speaker 1>Well sort of, it's all like fuzzy in my head

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<v Speaker 1>because I haven't written anything of it down, but the

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<v Speaker 1>concrete points still stand because like the first thing we

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<v Speaker 1>would have to do is just, you know, drop the

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<v Speaker 1>concept of currency to release us from the shackles of

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<v Speaker 1>our fucking capitalist overlords, which would free us you know,

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<v Speaker 1>to do whatever the fuck we please finally, And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>some people would see this as fucking anarchy, but I

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<v Speaker 1>think we're better than that. We wouldn't just like fucking

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<v Speaker 1>start killing each other like the purge, just just because

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<v Speaker 1>there's no money to be had.

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<v Speaker 2>Well what would be if there was? If there was

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<v Speaker 2>no money, what would what would we do?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, what do you mean we do? We would do whatever. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, there's a ton of problems in the world,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, leaving money behind would just free us

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<v Speaker 1>to deal with those problems, whether it's people needing help

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<v Speaker 1>or you know, the planet burning or whatever, ship like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Because you know, why don't you start a Why don't

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<v Speaker 2>you start like a commune or something. Why don't you

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<v Speaker 2>go to the town square, rally up a couple hundred

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<v Speaker 2>people and go start a little society.

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<v Speaker 1>Well that would be nice, but that would still solve nothing,

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<v Speaker 1>because it would be just you know, like you say,

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<v Speaker 1>a couple hundred people living off the land that they

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<v Speaker 1>choose to live off of. It would be the capitalist overloads.

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<v Speaker 2>Andy, How the hell are you, Andy, How the hell

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<v Speaker 2>are you gonna change the entire world if you don't

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<v Speaker 2>even want to go and change a hundred people.

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<v Speaker 1>No, this isn't a question of scale. I'm just saying that, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>doing it on a lesser scale than the entire world

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<v Speaker 1>will be pointless because as long as there's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>countries fucking polluting or whatever and fucking you know what's

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<v Speaker 1>whate a they called companies just the capitalist overworlds. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>as long as they're free to do whatever the fuck

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<v Speaker 1>they want, they're gonna like function up.

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<v Speaker 2>So the fucking have you made an Have you unconsciously

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<v Speaker 2>made a contract with yourself that you will be unhappy

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<v Speaker 2>until all human suffering is eliminated?

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<v Speaker 1>Haha? Not really, you are close, though, I have made

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<v Speaker 1>a contract with myself, fully consciously, that I won't start

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<v Speaker 1>working on myself until I see the world start working

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<v Speaker 1>on itself, you know, because I feel like whatever I

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<v Speaker 1>feel about me is bad. I got from the world

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<v Speaker 1>because I feel like, you know, I can't help myself

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<v Speaker 1>for shit, I can't. Uh, I don't know. I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm you know, fucking up all the time. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think I got that from like the general culture

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<v Speaker 1>of the world, Like, you know, people just not willing

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<v Speaker 1>to help other people just because they're different than shit

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<v Speaker 1>like that so.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it does make sense. But when you say I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not going to help myself until I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 2>try to fix myself into the world fix itself, does

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<v Speaker 2>that just like does that just manifest itself as you

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<v Speaker 2>just being unhappy and upset all day and not trying

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<v Speaker 2>to like use any amount of your agency to make

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<v Speaker 2>life for you a little bit better.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, No, Like, I still like do stuff for me

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<v Speaker 1>because there's stuff I enjoy and stuff I like, laugh

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<v Speaker 1>at the stuff I cry about and shprappy cry, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>all this kind of shit. And you know, no amount

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<v Speaker 1>of suffering in the world will stop me from laughing.

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<v Speaker 1>And I recognize that. But still there's like I have,

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, physical or medical problems or like mental

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<v Speaker 1>shit as well. There's way too much of that. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>until I see the world going in a direction where

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<v Speaker 1>I know it's worth it for me, you know, for

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<v Speaker 1>the for my future to work on myself, then I

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<v Speaker 1>won't like I don't want to work towards something, and

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<v Speaker 1>then just you know, have the world and just want

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<v Speaker 1>to commit suicide, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, So that would be sure. So let me

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<v Speaker 2>think about what you just said and make sure I

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<v Speaker 2>understand it. So you don't want to work on yourself

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<v Speaker 2>because it would be pointless because even if you did

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<v Speaker 2>work on yourself, you would be living in a fucked

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<v Speaker 2>up world no matter what, and there is nothing that

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<v Speaker 2>you can do to unfunck the world that you live in. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>I have, I have. I have a few thoughts on that,

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<v Speaker 2>if if you if you want to hear that, so like, sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, man, I actually think I think about this

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<v Speaker 2>stuff a lot. I really do. I really think about

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<v Speaker 2>this stuff a lot, especially because especially because it's it's

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<v Speaker 2>really it's a really prevalent conversation for a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people in terms of like, you know, there's there's the

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<v Speaker 2>system and whatever, capitalism and socialism, and then there's like

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<v Speaker 2>society at large, there's individualism, there's what can you do

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<v Speaker 2>for yourself? Is what can you do with other people?

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<v Speaker 2>And I think about all this stuff and I don't

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<v Speaker 2>have a definitive answer for it. One thing I do

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<v Speaker 2>think about is that I don't understand why there's why

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<v Speaker 2>it's a binary, you know what I mean, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>understand why it's always like like why is it like

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<v Speaker 2>either I you know, why are the two choices? You know?

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<v Speaker 2>Make yourself better? Well why not not that? I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>why are the two choices? Okay, makes why are the

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<v Speaker 2>two choices make society better or make myself better?

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<v Speaker 1>Like?

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<v Speaker 2>Why why is that a binary? Why can't I do

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<v Speaker 2>whatever is within my agency to make my own life

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<v Speaker 2>better and then also try to do whatever is within

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<v Speaker 2>my own agency to help the people around me? Man?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean sure, you know you can sit and be

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<v Speaker 2>like upset at the current systems that are are what's

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<v Speaker 2>going on right now, and you can you and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you can criticize them to death and be right in

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<v Speaker 2>your criticisms, and you could be trying to enact change

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<v Speaker 2>through those criticisms. But at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like, I don't, I don't. I'm trying to figure out,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, just for you, Andy, Like, what's gonna make

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<v Speaker 2>you not go through life feeling so shitty all the time?

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<v Speaker 3>You know?

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I'm thinking of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well.

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<v Speaker 2>It's also like, well, there's also well there's also like

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<v Speaker 2>I assume a feeling of helplessness because this is such

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<v Speaker 2>a global issue that you're in your tiny, little, single

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<v Speaker 2>human brain trying to solve it. It's impossible, but there

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<v Speaker 2>is certain things that you could do so that when

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<v Speaker 2>you go to sleep at night you can go well,

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<v Speaker 2>at least I tried my best and the rest is

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<v Speaker 2>out of control. And I accept that, And so I'm like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>what is you trying your best? Look like? Does it

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<v Speaker 2>look like you going out into the town square and

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<v Speaker 2>having a microphone and just literally to the people saying

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<v Speaker 2>your thoughts and feelings. Maybe it could look like that,

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<v Speaker 2>and maybe you would go and do that, and then

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<v Speaker 2>when you go to sleep at night, you can go

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't solve the global economic crisis, but I tried

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<v Speaker 2>my best to, you know, so maybe you would feel

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<v Speaker 2>better at least trying to. I don't. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean you have you have agency of some kind.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you agree with that?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you have a you have a very valid

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<v Speaker 1>point of if I tried, I would be significantly significantly happier.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's a lot of you know, fear that that

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<v Speaker 1>won't work out, and like if that doesn't work out,

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<v Speaker 1>like I might just keep trying. But if I don't,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll just, you know, I'll be even more miserable.

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<v Speaker 2>Isn't that life? You If you try and you try

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<v Speaker 2>and you try and then you can die.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, but yeah, this specific one. Failing this specific

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<v Speaker 1>challenge would mean to me that were doomed as a

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<v Speaker 1>human race.

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<v Speaker 2>And you and all the things we know, Eddie, you

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<v Speaker 2>can't be telling me right now that you are trying to,

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<v Speaker 2>like literally just as one guy, take on all the

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<v Speaker 2>world's problems. And you're you're literally saying right now, if

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<v Speaker 2>I cannot solve world hunger, the global economic crisis well

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<v Speaker 2>and achieve world peace, I will be happy. That's crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>I know that sounds crazy, but that's not really what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. Like, I'm saying that there needs to be

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<v Speaker 1>like a thought revolution for at least for the people

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<v Speaker 1>who are like, I don't know, fucking conservative boomers and

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<v Speaker 1>shit like that, and they need to realize, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>that our side of the argument is right, that capitalism

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<v Speaker 1>does need to fucking change at the very least or

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<v Speaker 1>be extinct solely and right, and I and I.

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<v Speaker 2>And and and I support you're taking whatever action is

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<v Speaker 2>within you to fight for your causes. But if you're

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<v Speaker 2>so far, but this is just general. This isn't even

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<v Speaker 2>a political This is not a political thing. When I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 2>this is just about what This is just about what

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<v Speaker 2>is and is not in your control, and about how

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<v Speaker 2>if you obsess over things that aren't in your control,

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<v Speaker 2>you're going to be deeply unhappy. And I think working

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<v Speaker 2>towards and you working towards and campaigning towards and taking

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<v Speaker 2>whatever action is within you as an individual towards things

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<v Speaker 2>that you believe in are positive, great things. But I

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<v Speaker 2>think weighing your happiness on the outcome of a thing

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<v Speaker 2>that is just totally beyond any one individual's control is

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<v Speaker 2>just is a recipe for constant sadness.

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<v Speaker 1>Look, this is what I tried to say, because that

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<v Speaker 1>thought revolution it has to have a beginning somewhere and it,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, logically, it has to be one mind. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm not saying like I'm saving the world.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying like, if if someone voiced this, then

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<v Speaker 1>we could save the world as humans as a species.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's not too big, you know, because there's seven

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<v Speaker 1>fucking eight almost eight billion of us. That's a fucking force. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>we could do anything.

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<v Speaker 2>Can I also say that? Can I also say this

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<v Speaker 2>one thing before? Yeah? Before I believe we might have

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<v Speaker 2>exhausted the bounds of this conversation. Oh, yeah, I want

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<v Speaker 2>to say this.

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<v Speaker 1>I expected it to go I talked, well, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>We talked about I want to say this, and I

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<v Speaker 2>hope this gets to you in some way. You talked

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<v Speaker 2>about that, we talked about the hundred people that you

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<v Speaker 2>rally are and then you and you said, well, what's

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<v Speaker 2>the point if it's just one hundred people and it's

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<v Speaker 2>like the world is the world is just a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of one hundred people, you know?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, I just meant, like, you know, if it's

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<v Speaker 1>a hundred people that go off and like separate from

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<v Speaker 1>rest of society, that's pointless because right the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>society would go on as.

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<v Speaker 2>It's nowl you know, So I just what if I

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<v Speaker 2>were if I were here, and if I were you,

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<v Speaker 2>I would go take I would take a walk around

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<v Speaker 2>your neighborhood.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, I did just now.

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<v Speaker 2>I would take a walk around your neighborhood, and I

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<v Speaker 2>would just look at what's directly around you or even

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<v Speaker 2>the people that you talk to in your daily life,

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<v Speaker 2>your friends, your family, whatever you're doing, and I would

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<v Speaker 2>just in what's directly in front of you, go how

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<v Speaker 2>can I help or improve these things? And if you're

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<v Speaker 2>focusing if you're focusing on how I'm going to save

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<v Speaker 2>the world. You're just gonna you were just gonna drive

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<v Speaker 2>yourself insane, and you seem like a cool guy. And

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to watch you just go insane and

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<v Speaker 2>kill yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>I would well, o, I should stop that, just think

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<v Speaker 1>you know.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, man, I hate that you're like hinging

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<v Speaker 2>your happiness upon such a gigantic issues like how.

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<v Speaker 1>Can I be happy? How can any truly empathetic person

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<v Speaker 1>be happy in a world world so much useless suffering,

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<v Speaker 1>you know occurs.

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<v Speaker 2>You limit your empathy to You limit your empathy to

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<v Speaker 2>about You limit your empathy to about one hundred people.

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<v Speaker 2>You goth. I have no hold on, hold on, hold on,

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<v Speaker 2>I have no qualms with that. I don't like whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I'm not like here to argue about

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<v Speaker 2>what makes a person a good person. I have no idea,

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<v Speaker 2>but at least personally, I think realistically, realistically, you can

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<v Speaker 2>only truly actually care about like maybe a hundred people.

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<v Speaker 1>That's true. I don't know, like the way I see it,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that's that.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>But you can't. But you can't know one hundred.

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<v Speaker 2>People that's okay, because why would that make you care?

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<v Speaker 2>Give me, give me second, give me a second age.

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<v Speaker 2>All right? If let's look, every day, there's all around

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<v Speaker 2>the world, hundreds and hundreds of people being fucking killed

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<v Speaker 2>in terrorist attacks and starving to death and all these things,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's a thousands, and I'm we can't look to

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<v Speaker 2>say we don't care about them, is like, but how

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<v Speaker 2>do I say this? Obviously you care, but there's only

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<v Speaker 2>so much that you can do for other people. And

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<v Speaker 2>if you pick okay, these are the dude, even if

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<v Speaker 2>it's just my family, even if it's this is my son,

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<v Speaker 2>this is my wife, this is my daughter. These are

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<v Speaker 2>the three people that I'm going to make a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of active effort to make sure I can improve their lives.

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<v Speaker 2>And then when I read on the news about these

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<v Speaker 2>people that are dying somewhere else, I'm gonna go, that sucks.

0:25:40.240 --> 0:25:43.560
<v Speaker 2>But today I have to feed my children, you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean. I have to water my crops proverbially

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<v Speaker 2>whatever that means, you know. And I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>that makes somebody a piece of shit, but it's like

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<v Speaker 2>the opposite of that, trying to yeah, trying to go

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<v Speaker 2>insane every horrible thing happening everywhere at the world all

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<v Speaker 2>the time. It's just our brains are not meant to

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<v Speaker 2>be able to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, I guess mine is like I just do that.

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<v Speaker 1>I just live like that, you know, And I know

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<v Speaker 1>it sounds fucking shitty, but I think someone has to,

0:26:20.600 --> 0:26:20.800
<v Speaker 1>you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Andy, I hope, I hope, I hope you can

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<v Speaker 2>you carve out five minutes for yourself to just look

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<v Speaker 2>at the sky and go, I'm you know, I'm fine.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, I do that, you know, Like I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>oh yeah, I have hours.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh Andy, is there anything else that you want to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about or say to the people of the computer

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<v Speaker 2>before we go? Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>Just, I don't know. I guess be kind to everyone,

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<v Speaker 1>especially yourself, unless they're being a dick or a fascist.

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<v Speaker 1>And oh yeah. What I want to end on is

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<v Speaker 1>it's never morally wrong to bunch of fascists.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a good rest of the day, you too, lie,

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<v Speaker 2>But oh my goodness, I wish we talked. I wish

0:27:19.280 --> 0:27:23.159
<v Speaker 2>we talked more about goulash. Goulash is really good. I

0:27:23.160 --> 0:27:24.960
<v Speaker 2>think it's some kind of suit. See if I were

0:27:25.040 --> 0:27:26.720
<v Speaker 2>that guy and I lived in Prague, what I would

0:27:26.760 --> 0:27:29.440
<v Speaker 2>do today is I would go have some gulash and

0:27:29.800 --> 0:27:34.760
<v Speaker 2>find a little cinnamon bun and I would go, you

0:27:34.800 --> 0:27:38.800
<v Speaker 2>know what this very I don't. I don't know about

0:27:38.840 --> 0:27:42.200
<v Speaker 2>the past. I don't know about the future. I don't

0:27:42.200 --> 0:27:45.359
<v Speaker 2>know what's going on in other countries. I don't know

0:27:45.400 --> 0:27:48.280
<v Speaker 2>what's going on in other people's brains. But what I

0:27:48.359 --> 0:27:55.760
<v Speaker 2>know for sure is that this particular individual moment where

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<v Speaker 2>I'm eating this gulash and I'm looking at the sky,

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<v Speaker 2>it's pretty good.

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<v Speaker 3>Hello, Hi, oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what's your name? My name is Ashley Ashley. How's life?

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<v Speaker 3>It's pretty good? Wow. I didn't think you.

0:28:15.960 --> 0:28:18.919
<v Speaker 2>Called me, hey, check this out instead of you know

0:28:18.960 --> 0:28:20.560
<v Speaker 2>when you know that you know when that guy says

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<v Speaker 2>Sunday Sunday Sunday. Uh huh Ashley Ashley Ashley. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know why the fuck I just said that. That was

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<v Speaker 2>really I I as soon as I said, do you

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<v Speaker 2>know how that guy says Sunday Sunday Sunday? I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to do the second part of this,

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<v Speaker 2>but yeah, it would have been weird if I had

0:28:41.720 --> 0:28:46.480
<v Speaker 2>abandoned it. Right anyway, what's up?

0:28:48.440 --> 0:28:51.680
<v Speaker 3>Not much, just text to scenes. Maybe he wanted to

0:28:51.720 --> 0:28:54.520
<v Speaker 3>hear about my unorthodox childhood a little bit.

0:28:55.680 --> 0:29:00.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, sure, let's let's let's let's de orthodox.

0:29:00.440 --> 0:29:07.720
<v Speaker 3>This all right. So this was the early two thousands,

0:29:07.720 --> 0:29:13.440
<v Speaker 3>you see, and my mom was a single mom and uh,

0:29:13.640 --> 0:29:17.120
<v Speaker 3>she was raising three kids. And so my mom was

0:29:17.200 --> 0:29:22.640
<v Speaker 3>an escort and she rose the ranks of escort hood

0:29:22.920 --> 0:29:28.680
<v Speaker 3>to owning her own escort service. And I just had

0:29:28.680 --> 0:29:32.480
<v Speaker 3>a lot of crazy, nothing crazy. My mom never put

0:29:32.480 --> 0:29:34.000
<v Speaker 3>me in danger or anything like that. So it just

0:29:34.600 --> 0:29:37.080
<v Speaker 3>a lot of crazy crazy.

0:29:37.120 --> 0:29:39.160
<v Speaker 2>So where do you want to.

0:29:39.160 --> 0:29:51.680
<v Speaker 3>Start, Well, uh, let me think, uh one time, my

0:29:52.320 --> 0:29:54.880
<v Speaker 3>how it worked is my mom when she no, no,

0:29:54.920 --> 0:29:58.600
<v Speaker 3>I'll start a little earlier than that. So my mom

0:29:59.120 --> 0:30:02.600
<v Speaker 3>was an escort for this woman and her name was Blaze,

0:30:03.200 --> 0:30:04.640
<v Speaker 3>and she kind of she was one of the ones

0:30:04.720 --> 0:30:08.840
<v Speaker 3>running the first escort service, I guess in the area,

0:30:10.280 --> 0:30:16.560
<v Speaker 3>and she was in a relationship with another escort and

0:30:16.600 --> 0:30:19.440
<v Speaker 3>she kind of like was roughen her up a little bit.

0:30:20.240 --> 0:30:22.680
<v Speaker 3>And I remember just sitting in the car one day,

0:30:22.920 --> 0:30:25.080
<v Speaker 3>my mom goes to get her her friend who is

0:30:25.520 --> 0:30:31.040
<v Speaker 3>in a relationship with this other lady, and I remember

0:30:31.160 --> 0:30:34.600
<v Speaker 3>just watching my mom just beat this lesbians ass. Her

0:30:34.640 --> 0:30:38.000
<v Speaker 3>name was blaze and just kind of just beat her

0:30:38.040 --> 0:30:41.480
<v Speaker 3>ass because she was beating her her friend. And then

0:30:42.480 --> 0:30:44.959
<v Speaker 3>they kind of just started their own escort service together,

0:30:46.240 --> 0:30:51.880
<v Speaker 3>like sands the beating. And I was homeschooled, and so

0:30:51.960 --> 0:30:55.040
<v Speaker 3>there's like I'm sorry, I'm I'm all over the place,

0:30:56.480 --> 0:30:58.560
<v Speaker 3>and so I just like I was just one of

0:30:58.160 --> 0:31:03.000
<v Speaker 3>the things that I remember my mom doing to defend

0:31:03.000 --> 0:31:07.600
<v Speaker 3>her friend. And then like there was just all kinds

0:31:07.600 --> 0:31:12.640
<v Speaker 3>of like escorts, you know, sex workers who would just

0:31:12.720 --> 0:31:15.760
<v Speaker 3>hang out at our house. Then they'd go on calls

0:31:15.800 --> 0:31:19.520
<v Speaker 3>and you know, they would just they'd bring their kids.

0:31:19.520 --> 0:31:21.400
<v Speaker 3>It was it was a very strange kind of like

0:31:21.640 --> 0:31:26.280
<v Speaker 3>a community growing up community of a lot of queer women,

0:31:26.440 --> 0:31:33.240
<v Speaker 3>a lot of like LGBT people and their kids. And

0:31:34.600 --> 0:31:36.240
<v Speaker 3>there's still kind of like a little bit of shame

0:31:36.600 --> 0:31:39.880
<v Speaker 3>like talking about it because it's you. You bring up

0:31:39.920 --> 0:31:42.200
<v Speaker 3>sex work, and people kind of squick out and they're like, oh,

0:31:42.400 --> 0:31:46.560
<v Speaker 3>like your mom was a bad person or you know

0:31:46.600 --> 0:31:48.480
<v Speaker 3>those people are that I don't know, does that make sense?

0:31:49.520 --> 0:31:51.280
<v Speaker 2>What how does this affect that you? What do you

0:31:51.360 --> 0:31:53.480
<v Speaker 2>do these days? Well?

0:31:53.600 --> 0:32:01.040
<v Speaker 3>I did get into online sex work, and I think

0:32:01.080 --> 0:32:04.920
<v Speaker 3>it affected me because like I was never in a

0:32:04.920 --> 0:32:08.160
<v Speaker 3>public school, and we did homeschooling or I guess you

0:32:08.160 --> 0:32:11.360
<v Speaker 3>would call it unschooling, so it's not kind of self

0:32:11.360 --> 0:32:19.720
<v Speaker 3>directed learning. I think it's uh affected me because like

0:32:19.760 --> 0:32:22.680
<v Speaker 3>I can't really you know, people talk about their childhood

0:32:22.720 --> 0:32:25.239
<v Speaker 3>and like it's either like really really bad or they

0:32:25.280 --> 0:32:27.040
<v Speaker 3>have like kind of normal childhood, and I don't really

0:32:27.120 --> 0:32:31.760
<v Speaker 3>relate to a lot of the experiences. And then when

0:32:31.760 --> 0:32:33.880
<v Speaker 3>I do kind of open up, which is so weird.

0:32:33.880 --> 0:32:35.840
<v Speaker 3>I'm opening up to the internet right now. That's crazy.

0:32:39.360 --> 0:32:42.840
<v Speaker 3>But like talking to like, you know, regular people, sometimes

0:32:43.880 --> 0:32:48.880
<v Speaker 3>people get close to it can feel I don't know,

0:32:49.000 --> 0:32:51.880
<v Speaker 3>really isolating and like there's a lot of Judgie stuff.

0:32:52.040 --> 0:32:56.680
<v Speaker 3>And I ended up doing some of that work myself.

0:32:56.520 --> 0:33:00.000
<v Speaker 2>And so I was like, uh, I know, are you

0:33:00.080 --> 0:33:01.880
<v Speaker 2>Are you still close with your mom?

0:33:03.920 --> 0:33:04.080
<v Speaker 1>Oh?

0:33:04.120 --> 0:33:06.240
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, she's great, We're very close.

0:33:07.920 --> 0:33:09.800
<v Speaker 2>Does she still run the escort business?

0:33:10.480 --> 0:33:16.440
<v Speaker 3>No, she she stopped doing that and we moved from

0:33:16.800 --> 0:33:19.959
<v Speaker 3>the city that she was doing that, and because one

0:33:20.000 --> 0:33:22.680
<v Speaker 3>of her friends was murdered and so she kind of

0:33:22.720 --> 0:33:25.440
<v Speaker 3>like packed us up and then we lived in a

0:33:25.520 --> 0:33:27.440
<v Speaker 3>kind of a big city and then we moved to

0:33:27.520 --> 0:33:31.120
<v Speaker 3>a really small town and a very country kind of town.

0:33:31.240 --> 0:33:31.560
<v Speaker 1>And so.

0:33:33.040 --> 0:33:34.800
<v Speaker 3>Like that portion of my life, I was about a teenager.

0:33:34.840 --> 0:33:37.360
<v Speaker 3>I think I was like fourteen. That portion of my

0:33:37.440 --> 0:33:39.360
<v Speaker 3>life was really weird because we went from this big

0:33:39.440 --> 0:33:42.640
<v Speaker 3>city and you know, kind of diverse people to not

0:33:42.720 --> 0:33:46.760
<v Speaker 3>a lot of different people and like adjusting to that

0:33:46.840 --> 0:33:51.760
<v Speaker 3>life and like a lot of the values were very different.

0:33:51.800 --> 0:33:55.360
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I guess it's never been acceptable. But there

0:33:55.400 --> 0:34:01.080
<v Speaker 3>was a pretty heavy like evangelical, evangelic cool overtone in

0:34:01.120 --> 0:34:04.239
<v Speaker 3>the town we lived in because it's very small, and

0:34:04.320 --> 0:34:05.880
<v Speaker 3>so could not open up about it.

0:34:06.320 --> 0:34:08.400
<v Speaker 2>So what did she start doing when you guys moved.

0:34:11.080 --> 0:34:14.239
<v Speaker 3>Well, she had a lot of money stays up because

0:34:14.280 --> 0:34:17.840
<v Speaker 3>she had been doing it, oh for years, and then she,

0:34:19.800 --> 0:34:22.280
<v Speaker 3>like I said, she she was an escort and then

0:34:23.040 --> 0:34:26.440
<v Speaker 3>she kind of developed her own like service, and then

0:34:26.480 --> 0:34:28.759
<v Speaker 3>she had people working for her. So she was able

0:34:28.760 --> 0:34:32.520
<v Speaker 3>to make a pretty decent, you know, life for herself.

0:34:34.560 --> 0:34:35.840
<v Speaker 3>So she was about that for a little bit. But

0:34:35.880 --> 0:34:38.960
<v Speaker 3>then she just got a regular job at a grocery

0:34:38.960 --> 0:34:43.680
<v Speaker 3>store and then met my stepdad and you know that

0:34:43.800 --> 0:34:46.880
<v Speaker 3>was that. It was like that chapter was closed. And

0:34:48.200 --> 0:34:52.520
<v Speaker 3>as far as there's cars.

0:34:51.200 --> 0:34:54.680
<v Speaker 2>How old are you now, I'm twenty nine. Oh, so

0:34:54.760 --> 0:35:05.080
<v Speaker 2>this is about fifteen years ago. M does your huh so?

0:35:05.400 --> 0:35:07.200
<v Speaker 2>And do you are are you do? Are you still

0:35:07.200 --> 0:35:08.720
<v Speaker 2>doing like the camming stuff?

0:35:10.560 --> 0:35:10.640
<v Speaker 1>No?

0:35:10.760 --> 0:35:13.640
<v Speaker 3>I stopped because I got a pretty good job at

0:35:13.680 --> 0:35:19.200
<v Speaker 3>a doggy daycare. No, I don't do that anymore. I

0:35:19.239 --> 0:35:21.399
<v Speaker 3>mean not that I'm opposed to it, Like I could

0:35:21.440 --> 0:35:23.200
<v Speaker 3>probably take it back up if I ever needed the.

0:35:23.840 --> 0:35:30.840
<v Speaker 2>Extra, you know, And what's the deal with your dad?

0:35:30.920 --> 0:35:34.120
<v Speaker 2>Is he in the picture at all? Oh?

0:35:34.280 --> 0:35:38.880
<v Speaker 3>My biological dad is not. He tried to set us

0:35:38.920 --> 0:35:43.440
<v Speaker 3>on spire when we were kids, so I try to

0:35:43.440 --> 0:35:45.880
<v Speaker 3>burn the house down with us in it. So he's

0:35:46.280 --> 0:35:50.640
<v Speaker 3>he went to prison and you know, not a part

0:35:50.680 --> 0:35:52.040
<v Speaker 3>of the life or our life at all.

0:35:52.600 --> 0:35:53.719
<v Speaker 2>Why the hell did he do that?

0:35:54.120 --> 0:35:58.480
<v Speaker 3>You know? He was an alcoholic, super abusive. I was

0:35:58.560 --> 0:36:02.480
<v Speaker 3>probably like three, so I don't remember that it completely,

0:36:02.640 --> 0:36:05.160
<v Speaker 3>but there's a lot of back and forth with my

0:36:05.280 --> 0:36:12.759
<v Speaker 3>mom and my biological dad. And one night he put

0:36:13.480 --> 0:36:17.120
<v Speaker 3>accelerant on the doors and set the house on fire.

0:36:17.200 --> 0:36:22.239
<v Speaker 3>Luckily everyone got out, but yeah, I was pretty so

0:36:22.280 --> 0:36:24.560
<v Speaker 3>that's kind of that. That set the tone because my

0:36:24.600 --> 0:36:28.920
<v Speaker 3>mom was terrified of him because he's on the run.

0:36:28.920 --> 0:36:33.040
<v Speaker 3>They didn't catch him right away, so yeah, we didn't

0:36:33.040 --> 0:36:35.879
<v Speaker 3>have any family. My mom wasn't close with her side

0:36:35.880 --> 0:36:39.840
<v Speaker 3>of the family. Obviously, my biodad's side of the family

0:36:39.960 --> 0:36:41.800
<v Speaker 3>is not great.

0:36:43.160 --> 0:36:46.080
<v Speaker 2>Is he now? Is he still in prison?

0:36:48.320 --> 0:36:53.360
<v Speaker 3>I want to say no, maybe he didn't because he

0:36:53.480 --> 0:36:57.120
<v Speaker 3>technically didn't murder any of us, but he did get

0:36:57.160 --> 0:36:59.840
<v Speaker 3>caught for like four counts attempted.

0:37:01.480 --> 0:37:01.600
<v Speaker 2>Uh.

0:37:01.800 --> 0:37:05.520
<v Speaker 3>So I'm I want to say, if he's out, he

0:37:05.880 --> 0:37:07.759
<v Speaker 3>probably got out maybe a few years ago.

0:37:07.840 --> 0:37:08.279
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

0:37:09.480 --> 0:37:14.960
<v Speaker 3>I do not like to to think about that personally. Terrible.

0:37:15.960 --> 0:37:18.920
<v Speaker 2>H And what about your stepdad?

0:37:20.160 --> 0:37:24.080
<v Speaker 3>Oh, he's great. He's was a military medic, he was

0:37:24.080 --> 0:37:27.040
<v Speaker 3>in the Air Force, so he's great. He's a pretty

0:37:27.040 --> 0:37:31.080
<v Speaker 3>cool person. I call him my normal like my dad.

0:37:31.320 --> 0:37:34.160
<v Speaker 3>You know, he's a good guy. He uh kind of

0:37:34.160 --> 0:37:38.719
<v Speaker 3>came into our lives when we were teenagers. But he

0:37:39.120 --> 0:37:41.560
<v Speaker 3>knows about it. He you know, my mom doesn't. I

0:37:41.560 --> 0:37:43.040
<v Speaker 3>guess she didn't. Obviously she's not going to keep it a

0:37:43.080 --> 0:37:45.120
<v Speaker 3>secret from her husband. But she did tell him and

0:37:45.160 --> 0:37:51.560
<v Speaker 3>he was okay with it. And yeah, it's just it's like,

0:37:52.920 --> 0:37:56.239
<v Speaker 3>I don't know how to like it's it happened so

0:37:56.320 --> 0:37:58.760
<v Speaker 3>long ago, and so it shouldn't even matter. Anymore, I guess,

0:37:58.840 --> 0:38:00.560
<v Speaker 3>but it does to me.

0:38:00.719 --> 0:38:04.200
<v Speaker 2>In a weird way interesting because I was wondering. I

0:38:04.239 --> 0:38:09.600
<v Speaker 2>was wondering, you know, well no, wait when you said yeah,

0:38:09.600 --> 0:38:11.440
<v Speaker 2>I was wondering, like, as you're telling me all this

0:38:11.520 --> 0:38:13.319
<v Speaker 2>and I know what happened about fifteen years ago, I

0:38:13.360 --> 0:38:15.879
<v Speaker 2>was wondering if you were telling this to me as

0:38:15.960 --> 0:38:20.759
<v Speaker 2>a you know, just an interesting anecdote about your life,

0:38:20.920 --> 0:38:24.319
<v Speaker 2>or if it was something that still, uh, you know,

0:38:24.440 --> 0:38:24.960
<v Speaker 2>plagues you.

0:38:27.239 --> 0:38:29.120
<v Speaker 3>I think it's a little bit of both, because you know,

0:38:29.120 --> 0:38:30.440
<v Speaker 3>it's kind of like a fun fact. I was like,

0:38:30.480 --> 0:38:32.600
<v Speaker 3>you know what, the therapy getical chat might want to

0:38:32.600 --> 0:38:38.000
<v Speaker 3>hear this, but yeah, no, I like it probably does

0:38:38.000 --> 0:38:40.680
<v Speaker 3>a little like that bothered me because nothing really terrible

0:38:40.800 --> 0:38:43.319
<v Speaker 3>happened to me because of what my mom did. It's

0:38:43.440 --> 0:38:49.120
<v Speaker 3>just the isolating experience of like the the perceptions of

0:38:49.160 --> 0:38:51.480
<v Speaker 3>other people. They're like, oh my god, your mom was

0:38:52.000 --> 0:38:55.400
<v Speaker 3>a hooker and she exposed you to other hookers, and

0:38:56.200 --> 0:38:59.759
<v Speaker 3>you know, I never saw like nothing. She'd never take

0:38:59.760 --> 0:39:01.920
<v Speaker 3>me on calls like I never there was nothing, nothing

0:39:01.960 --> 0:39:03.640
<v Speaker 3>like that. I'm sure that that has happened to a

0:39:03.680 --> 0:39:05.279
<v Speaker 3>lot of people, but that was not the case.

0:39:08.719 --> 0:39:09.000
<v Speaker 2>Hm.

0:39:09.040 --> 0:39:13.520
<v Speaker 3>But it's just the kind of assumption that like sex

0:39:13.560 --> 0:39:21.799
<v Speaker 3>workers are bad people, I guess just inherently. When do

0:39:21.880 --> 0:39:22.200
<v Speaker 3>I think of it?

0:39:23.480 --> 0:39:25.719
<v Speaker 2>From from what well, I was going to say, from

0:39:25.760 --> 0:39:27.520
<v Speaker 2>what you've told me. I like your mom a lot

0:39:27.560 --> 0:39:28.440
<v Speaker 2>more than your dad.

0:39:29.160 --> 0:39:34.319
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, I think it's pretty cool. Like she did

0:39:34.320 --> 0:39:37.279
<v Speaker 3>what she did to keep us, you know, a roof

0:39:37.320 --> 0:39:41.560
<v Speaker 3>over her head, and we wanted from nothing, like we

0:39:41.600 --> 0:39:44.120
<v Speaker 3>didn't just have our knees, that we had the extra stuff.

0:39:44.160 --> 0:39:48.640
<v Speaker 2>And I don't know, And how's she doing now? Is she?

0:39:49.000 --> 0:39:50.959
<v Speaker 2>I mean, she seems like she's got a pretty good life.

0:39:50.960 --> 0:39:54.080
<v Speaker 2>It seems like this, uh now this, I mean he's

0:39:54.120 --> 0:39:58.120
<v Speaker 2>not a new guy, but your stepdad is a much

0:39:58.160 --> 0:40:00.040
<v Speaker 2>better guy for her than the guy who tried to

0:40:00.120 --> 0:40:06.880
<v Speaker 2>kill you guys. Absolutely, So, like is she happy and

0:40:07.160 --> 0:40:07.759
<v Speaker 2>living good?

0:40:09.200 --> 0:40:11.640
<v Speaker 3>She is? She at least I think she is. We

0:40:11.680 --> 0:40:13.880
<v Speaker 3>have some good talk. I mean, my childhood wasn't perfect.

0:40:13.920 --> 0:40:16.799
<v Speaker 3>There was some kind of like she you know, there

0:40:16.920 --> 0:40:20.320
<v Speaker 3>was things that happened that like probably weren't the best.

0:40:20.400 --> 0:40:23.640
<v Speaker 3>But like you know, not putting us in a regular school,

0:40:23.920 --> 0:40:26.640
<v Speaker 3>you know, that's that's created obstacles for me for getting

0:40:26.680 --> 0:40:29.239
<v Speaker 3>a job, because I don't have high school transcripts. But

0:40:29.320 --> 0:40:32.879
<v Speaker 3>like she's owned up to it, taken accountability for apologize.

0:40:34.480 --> 0:40:38.000
<v Speaker 3>But now she's I mean, she has a lovely life.

0:40:38.320 --> 0:40:44.000
<v Speaker 3>She makes cups, she sells, makes little craft cups, and

0:40:44.040 --> 0:40:45.640
<v Speaker 3>she you know, they go to craft fairs all the

0:40:45.680 --> 0:40:49.520
<v Speaker 3>time and you know, sells her like her little things.

0:40:49.600 --> 0:40:52.160
<v Speaker 3>And yeah, it's a pretty good life for her. My

0:40:52.200 --> 0:40:54.400
<v Speaker 3>sister's got kids and she's good grandma.

0:40:54.560 --> 0:40:59.600
<v Speaker 2>So she makes these cups, she goes to craft fairs.

0:41:00.400 --> 0:41:02.120
<v Speaker 3>Mm hmm, that's what she does.

0:41:02.800 --> 0:41:03.560
<v Speaker 2>That's pretty cool.

0:41:04.520 --> 0:41:06.240
<v Speaker 3>And she makes the cups and stuff.

0:41:06.800 --> 0:41:09.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're a sister. What's her whole deal with all this?

0:41:10.160 --> 0:41:13.960
<v Speaker 2>Is this still does she still think about it? And yeah,

0:41:13.960 --> 0:41:15.239
<v Speaker 2>what's her experience kind of been?

0:41:15.360 --> 0:41:21.040
<v Speaker 3>Like her experience was a little bit different than mine

0:41:21.880 --> 0:41:24.760
<v Speaker 3>because I was She's the oldest and I was the youngest.

0:41:24.800 --> 0:41:29.240
<v Speaker 3>So my sister, I'm not gonna get into her stuff.

0:41:29.280 --> 0:41:32.719
<v Speaker 3>But like some unsavory things happened, and so she doesn't

0:41:32.719 --> 0:41:34.919
<v Speaker 3>really like to talk about it, you know, she kind

0:41:34.920 --> 0:41:39.279
<v Speaker 3>of they all just my mom and my brother, they

0:41:39.280 --> 0:41:40.880
<v Speaker 3>all just kind of moved on. And I'm like, I

0:41:40.880 --> 0:41:43.400
<v Speaker 3>don't know why I'm still stuck in the past. Like

0:41:43.840 --> 0:41:45.480
<v Speaker 3>because it's like I'm not ashamed of it, and I

0:41:45.520 --> 0:41:47.680
<v Speaker 3>think that I had a pretty good experience. I think

0:41:47.680 --> 0:41:52.319
<v Speaker 3>I'm a well rounded person because of those experiences, like

0:41:52.360 --> 0:41:56.600
<v Speaker 3>I was exposed to, especially back in the day. I

0:41:56.600 --> 0:41:59.600
<v Speaker 3>don't know if anyone remembers the early two thousands of

0:41:59.680 --> 0:42:03.040
<v Speaker 3>how you know, anti gay stuff was like how people

0:42:03.080 --> 0:42:06.840
<v Speaker 3>were pretty homophobic, and I was exposed to that. It

0:42:06.880 --> 0:42:10.640
<v Speaker 3>was just it was completely normal for me. And then,

0:42:11.200 --> 0:42:15.520
<v Speaker 3>like you know, I learned a lot, and I just

0:42:15.520 --> 0:42:18.879
<v Speaker 3>feel like there's not a really like a safe place

0:42:18.920 --> 0:42:21.520
<v Speaker 3>to like talk about it and like not feel the

0:42:21.719 --> 0:42:24.760
<v Speaker 3>like obligatory like I have to express how that's probably

0:42:24.760 --> 0:42:26.600
<v Speaker 3>not the best thing or whatever. I just want to

0:42:26.640 --> 0:42:30.200
<v Speaker 3>talk about it in my experience. I don't know, I'm rambling.

0:42:30.239 --> 0:42:31.000
<v Speaker 3>I'm so sorry.

0:42:31.400 --> 0:42:33.920
<v Speaker 2>Well, it's like I don't know, I just keep thinking

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<v Speaker 2>about the comparison, because I mean, you know, you're talking

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<v Speaker 2>about when we're talking about like I guess bad childhoods

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<v Speaker 2>or like bad I guess we're talking about like like parenting,

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<v Speaker 2>like the sort of what is good or bad parenting,

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, well, at the very if we compare your

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<v Speaker 2>mom to your dad, your mom did did pretty well.

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<v Speaker 2>By you, you know, so so if if if the

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<v Speaker 2>standard of a bad parent is to you know, set

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<v Speaker 2>their children on fire, I think that you know, you're

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<v Speaker 2>you had a pretty good mom and you still have

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<v Speaker 2>a good relationship with her, and you seem like you

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<v Speaker 2>have a good life, so you know, as long as

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<v Speaker 2>you're happy with uh, your relationship with her and how

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<v Speaker 2>everything turned out that I I don't know if it

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<v Speaker 2>matters so much what uh you know other people think, Yeah, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Think that that's like the answer, right, and it should be.

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<v Speaker 3>It's correct. It's just like that lingering feeling of shame

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<v Speaker 3>is still there for some reason, and I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>how to get.

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<v Speaker 2>Rid of it. And I don't know why have you

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<v Speaker 2>ever talked to a real therapist about this?

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<v Speaker 1>I have?

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<v Speaker 2>What did they say?

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<v Speaker 3>I this is gonna sound terrible, but I have opened

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<v Speaker 3>up about that part because because I'm like, what if.

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<v Speaker 2>When you say that part, do you mean just do

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<v Speaker 2>you mean everything we've we've been talking about?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, really like not everything, Like I'll dance around it.

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<v Speaker 3>I won't. I'll just it's not I don't. It's lying

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<v Speaker 3>by omission. So like I'll talk about experiences like oh,

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<v Speaker 3>I'll say I had an underworth it out of childhood.

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<v Speaker 3>I just homeschooled, and I'll just kind of dance around that.

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<v Speaker 2>Why do you have I'm curious. I'm very curious as

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<v Speaker 2>to why you avoid talking about it with your real therapist,

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<v Speaker 2>but yet you're you feel comfortable talking about it in

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<v Speaker 2>front of you know, ten thousand internet strangers.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's because I've watched your stream for really

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<v Speaker 3>a long time and I've heard people call in and like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, tell you really insane things about their life

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<v Speaker 3>and that you know, I don't just look for your reaction.

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<v Speaker 3>I like the chat isn't really good about you know,

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<v Speaker 3>not being digs for the most part. Uh and so,

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<v Speaker 3>and there's like that vale of anonymity. You're not going

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<v Speaker 3>to know who I am, Like like I could say

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<v Speaker 3>it and then just like it's like a confessional, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>So, I mean, as your therapist provided you with anything

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<v Speaker 2>helpful even out of the lack of information you've given

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<v Speaker 2>them on this.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh absolutely absolutely, I'm a better person for therapy. But

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<v Speaker 3>I know the big thing is that you've got to

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<v Speaker 3>be really honest with your therapist. And I should absolutely

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<v Speaker 3>talk to this talk to my therapist about this but

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<v Speaker 3>it's just that shame. You know what I'm talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't even know why it's there, and so I

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<v Speaker 3>should I should absolutely do that.

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<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm. Good. I'm glad to hear that. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. I I hope, I hope that this that

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<v Speaker 2>you know, talking about all this stuff was helpful for you.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks for telling us all about this stuff. It's certainly

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<v Speaker 2>very very fascinating. I hope you know, uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>anytime someone is talking about something and like this that's

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<v Speaker 2>uh personal to them, I'm I hope, I hope you

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<v Speaker 2>I hope you've got to benefit out of it of

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<v Speaker 2>some kind cathartic or mm hmmm. So, and how is

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<v Speaker 2>your brother doing. He's cool, your mom's cool. It's just

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<v Speaker 2>you and your sister.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, my brother's doing great, guys, motorcycle. He's living his life.

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<v Speaker 3>He doesn't really have kids. I don't have kids either.

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<v Speaker 3>My sister's got kids. And I don't know. He's seems happy.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sure he's got his own life stuff. No one

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<v Speaker 3>can truly I get. I don't want to say happy content.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess m hm, he's not, you know, struggling with

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<v Speaker 3>addiction or anything.

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<v Speaker 1>Like that.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not struggle with addiction besides nicotine, and my sister's

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<v Speaker 3>the same, So I mean we're pretty good. I think you.

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<v Speaker 2>Gotta keep Look, dude, I'm a big fan of lowering

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<v Speaker 2>the uh what would you call it? Lowering the standards?

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>I think if you're not addicted to drugs and killing people,

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<v Speaker 2>you're doing pretty all right in this world.

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<v Speaker 3>I think so.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, of course. What's your name again?

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<v Speaker 3>Ashley?

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<v Speaker 2>Ashley? Ashley, Ashley, Ashley. I'm gonna cut that party, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what. No, I'm gonna keep it in.

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<v Speaker 3>No, keep it. It's important.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Ashley, is there anything else you wanna say to

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<v Speaker 2>the fund? There was one other question I was going

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<v Speaker 2>to ask you. I fucking forgot what it was. We're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna keep this part into Ashley, is there anything else

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<v Speaker 2>you want to say to the people of the computer

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<v Speaker 2>before we go?

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<v Speaker 3>Y'all be good to yourself, I guess, and that'll be

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<v Speaker 3>good to me.

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<v Speaker 1>And thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Bye, Ashley?

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<v Speaker 3>All right, bye.

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<v Speaker 2>See. I should start my own and uh business of

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<v Speaker 2>gecko escorts. I don't know what they would do. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if it would be a sex thing. It

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<v Speaker 2>might just be like a you can hang out with

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<v Speaker 2>somebody in a gecko costume. Yeah, that'll I'm gonna do that.

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<v Speaker 2>Never goes on the line taking your phone calls every night,

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<v Speaker 2>never goes to a a ride. He's teaching you aloud

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<v Speaker 2>to them of your life, but he's not really an expert.