WEBVTT - A Conversation with Monica Crowley 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:04.600 So we've got the great Monica Crowley as this episode's guests. 0:00:04.640 --> 0:00:07.080 She's a friend of mine. I'm missing her around. I 0:00:07.080 --> 0:00:09.400 haven't seen her in quite some time. I always respect 0:00:09.440 --> 0:00:12.039 what she has to say. She's so smart, just has 0:00:12.039 --> 0:00:14.640 her finger on the pulse, always brings a different insight 0:00:14.760 --> 0:00:17.439 than you know what a lot of other people are missing. 0:00:17.520 --> 0:00:20.720 She's just so smart, so accomplished. So I'm really looking 0:00:20.760 --> 0:00:23.119 forward to this episode. One just reconnecting with a friend, 0:00:23.160 --> 0:00:26.279 and then two just turned from her about everything that's 0:00:26.320 --> 0:00:28.640 going on in the country. We've got the FBI raid, 0:00:28.680 --> 0:00:32.400 we've got election coming up. You know, everything seems to 0:00:32.400 --> 0:00:35.640 be going wrong in the country right now. So I'm 0:00:35.680 --> 0:00:37.920 just really looking to her to get her insight on 0:00:38.040 --> 0:00:40.120 all of this, to sort of, you know, let us 0:00:40.159 --> 0:00:42.200 know what we need to be looking at, what's ahead. 0:00:42.320 --> 0:00:45.320 Getting her insight. You know her from Fox News. She 0:00:45.440 --> 0:00:47.600 was on Fox for a number of years, still still 0:00:47.720 --> 0:00:51.160 is on Fox. She left to go serve the Trump administration. 0:00:51.240 --> 0:00:55.080 Served the country as a former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury. 0:00:55.440 --> 0:00:58.120 She has her own podcast. She's the host of the 0:00:58.160 --> 0:01:00.840 Monica Crowley Podcast. You're gonna want to go check that 0:01:00.920 --> 0:01:04.360 out as well. She is an author. I mean, she 0:01:04.440 --> 0:01:07.440 used to be on the Council on Foreign Relations. I mean, 0:01:07.440 --> 0:01:09.440 you can go down the list of all the things 0:01:09.880 --> 0:01:13.679 that Monica Crowley has done. She is brilliant, she is smart, 0:01:13.800 --> 0:01:16.120 and she's an awesome person. So I really hope you 0:01:16.200 --> 0:01:30.440 enjoyed this interview with Monica Crowley. So I am so 0:01:30.480 --> 0:01:33.400 excited about this guy. So we have Monica Crowley. Monica, 0:01:33.400 --> 0:01:35.400 I've been suing you and so long. I miss you. 0:01:36.080 --> 0:01:38.479 I know I miss you too, Lisa. I can't wait 0:01:38.520 --> 0:01:41.160 to see you in person again and give you big squeeze. Yeah, 0:01:41.200 --> 0:01:44.320 we'll have to u connect in Florida. So I think 0:01:44.319 --> 0:01:48.040 you're in West Palm and I'm in Miami, so we 0:01:48.120 --> 0:01:51.520 need to connect soon. I can't wait. I mean, Monica, 0:01:51.720 --> 0:01:54.680 it's just I think we're all just looking at the 0:01:54.680 --> 0:01:57.880 events of the past week and really just the past 0:01:57.920 --> 0:02:01.559 few months, and are asking ourselves, you know, what's going 0:02:01.640 --> 0:02:04.600 on in America, what's going on in the country right now? 0:02:04.920 --> 0:02:07.680 You know, Lisa, there's so many days I wake up 0:02:07.920 --> 0:02:11.280 and I literally want this all to be a bad dream, 0:02:11.400 --> 0:02:13.919 like I wanted to be that I slept through a 0:02:14.040 --> 0:02:18.040 nightmare that Joe Biden was president and deliberately torpedoing the 0:02:18.120 --> 0:02:21.440 United States of America. And when I really come to 0:02:21.720 --> 0:02:24.200 Donald Trump will still be president, We'll have a thriving 0:02:24.240 --> 0:02:30.040 economy and world peace. But unfortunately, sadly, that's not the case. 0:02:30.160 --> 0:02:33.600 So look, I think what the American people need to 0:02:33.639 --> 0:02:37.920 really understand is what actually is happening here. And you 0:02:38.000 --> 0:02:40.679 and I we work in news, we do our podcasts, 0:02:40.760 --> 0:02:44.800 we appure on Fox News, we're on radio. It. You know, 0:02:45.160 --> 0:02:48.760 it's very easy to get lost in the trees and 0:02:48.840 --> 0:02:52.639 loose sight of the forest because we're constantly battling back 0:02:53.360 --> 0:02:57.160 that the daily horror. Right So, whether it's the FBI 0:02:57.440 --> 0:03:02.400 rating mar Lago, or the astrophic withdrawal from Afghanistan one 0:03:02.480 --> 0:03:06.040 year ago, or whatever it might be, raging inflation, sky 0:03:06.120 --> 0:03:08.600 high gas prisis, we tend to get lost in the 0:03:08.680 --> 0:03:12.280 day to day because it's also horrific. But I really 0:03:12.360 --> 0:03:14.880 think that the American people need to take a step 0:03:14.919 --> 0:03:17.560 back with us and understand what's really going on. We 0:03:17.639 --> 0:03:22.639 are in the midst right now of a Neo Marxist revolution. 0:03:23.240 --> 0:03:26.320 And I don't use that phrase lightly, Lisa. I don't 0:03:26.360 --> 0:03:28.960 just throw around this stuff like, oh, you know, it's 0:03:29.080 --> 0:03:31.400 it's also crazy. Yeah, it is so crazy, but there 0:03:31.480 --> 0:03:35.680 is a method to their madness. The modern Democratic Party 0:03:36.440 --> 0:03:39.680 is not the Democratic Party of JFK or Bill Clinton. 0:03:40.280 --> 0:03:44.280 This is now a Marxist revolutionary party. And the key 0:03:44.440 --> 0:03:47.080 two words there are Marxist, so you need to know 0:03:47.120 --> 0:03:51.680 what the ideology is, but also revolutionary. They are literally 0:03:51.800 --> 0:03:57.480 revolutionaries working around the clock too. In Obama's words, fundamentally 0:03:57.560 --> 0:04:02.800 transformed the nation. When a Bama said that in Lisa, 0:04:02.880 --> 0:04:06.040 I remember going on Fox News with like Bill O'Reilly 0:04:06.080 --> 0:04:09.200 and John Imus and they were all like, oh, come on, 0:04:09.480 --> 0:04:12.920 Crowley communism, and I need if you use the word 0:04:12.960 --> 0:04:16.520 communism or Marxism at the time, I used the softer socialism. 0:04:16.880 --> 0:04:21.000 They were like, Crowley socialism, You're crazy, Like, come on, 0:04:21.160 --> 0:04:25.159 Barack Obama socialists and I was like yeah, yeah, and 0:04:25.200 --> 0:04:28.160 we need to understand where this is going. So Obama 0:04:28.200 --> 0:04:31.600 had eight years to begin that transformation of the country, 0:04:31.760 --> 0:04:34.599 and unfortunately, like there were very few of us. It 0:04:34.680 --> 0:04:36.560 was like you and me and a couple of other 0:04:36.640 --> 0:04:40.039 people who actually had the courage to to tease it 0:04:40.080 --> 0:04:43.120 out to the next step, which is, well, what what 0:04:43.240 --> 0:04:47.919 exactly does Obama mean by the fundamental transformation of the nation. 0:04:48.240 --> 0:04:50.400 So many people wanted to give him the benefit of 0:04:50.400 --> 0:04:53.640 the doubt and say, well, you know, he he just means, 0:04:53.640 --> 0:04:57.640 you know, kind of restore restore America's power after the 0:04:57.640 --> 0:05:00.719 war in Iraq, and this and that. No, that this 0:05:01.000 --> 0:05:05.440 is the fundamental transformation of the nation as the Democrats 0:05:05.520 --> 0:05:09.560 today mean. It is away from the very pillars that 0:05:09.600 --> 0:05:15.760 made us great individual liberty, economic freedom, strong, national defense, 0:05:16.520 --> 0:05:20.119 um and and all of the things that that gave 0:05:20.200 --> 0:05:22.680 this country to pushed toward greatness. In a very short 0:05:22.720 --> 0:05:26.240 amount of time, they intend to strip the country of 0:05:26.480 --> 0:05:31.039 free market capitalism and individual freedom and take this country 0:05:31.120 --> 0:05:35.440 in a more collectivist, neo Marxist or neo communist kind 0:05:35.480 --> 0:05:39.080 of model. Donald Trump was not supposed to be elected 0:05:39.080 --> 0:05:41.360 in sixteen. It was supposed to be eight years of 0:05:41.360 --> 0:05:44.479 Obama than eight years of Hillary where they could really 0:05:44.640 --> 0:05:48.000 lock all of this in. So when Trump got elected, 0:05:48.279 --> 0:05:51.200 he threw a monkey wrench in their whole great reset 0:05:51.400 --> 0:05:54.279 here at home, this whole grand project. And so what 0:05:54.400 --> 0:05:57.560 you're seeing now, Lisa, to answer your question about what 0:05:57.720 --> 0:06:00.360 is going on that they are making up for lost 0:06:00.400 --> 0:06:04.320 time they lost four years under Trump, where Trump actually 0:06:04.400 --> 0:06:07.560 was solving all of America's problems and delivering a thriving 0:06:07.600 --> 0:06:11.320 economy and world peace. They lost those four years. So 0:06:11.360 --> 0:06:14.160 now what you're seeing is this great reset here at 0:06:14.160 --> 0:06:17.960 home on steroids. They're moving with all deliberate speed to 0:06:18.040 --> 0:06:21.080 make up for that lost time. But make no mistake 0:06:21.120 --> 0:06:25.360 about it, this is a neo Communist, a Marxist revolution 0:06:25.400 --> 0:06:28.360 that we are living through right now. What's your point. 0:06:28.400 --> 0:06:31.760 I mean, they're they're destroying every institution, They're destroying the 0:06:31.839 --> 0:06:34.680 things that's even just stabilize the country. I mean, the 0:06:34.760 --> 0:06:36.919 rule of law. I mean, you look at how lawless 0:06:37.400 --> 0:06:41.440 these cities are across America, where you know, these people 0:06:41.480 --> 0:06:43.960 who are murdered, you know, it's just revolving door of crime, 0:06:44.000 --> 0:06:46.560 of letting these people out and not punishing them and 0:06:46.920 --> 0:06:51.640 treating uh, you know, in the instance of Jose Jose Alba, 0:06:51.839 --> 0:06:54.839 you know, treating uh, you know, the victim as the 0:06:54.839 --> 0:06:58.120 criminal and the criminal as the victim. It's just this 0:06:58.279 --> 0:07:01.520 totally warped perspect active we're in. But to your point, 0:07:01.560 --> 0:07:04.880 you know that they are essentially waging this war on 0:07:05.000 --> 0:07:07.720 Donald Trump. You can go through the list of investigations 0:07:07.760 --> 0:07:11.560 that they've launched his way. Uh, impeachment. The list goes on. 0:07:11.600 --> 0:07:15.560 He's facing civil investigation in New York, You've got the 0:07:15.640 --> 0:07:19.160 FBI rating his home. He's also facing another probe out 0:07:19.160 --> 0:07:21.640 of Georgia. I mean, how far do you think Democrats 0:07:21.680 --> 0:07:25.160 will take all of this? I think they want to 0:07:25.160 --> 0:07:27.640 take it as far as they can can take it, 0:07:27.880 --> 0:07:32.320 which is ultimately they want Donald Trump in prison. I 0:07:32.400 --> 0:07:35.880 remember going on Sean Hannity's show on Fox News March 0:07:36.080 --> 0:07:39.160 of twenties seventeen, so Donald Trump had been president for 0:07:39.280 --> 0:07:42.560 only two months, and I remember saying on the air 0:07:42.640 --> 0:07:46.600 to Sean and to America that they don't just want 0:07:46.640 --> 0:07:50.280 to undermine Trump's presidency or destroy his presidency, although they 0:07:50.360 --> 0:07:54.080 certainly wanted to do that. They want the man in prison. 0:07:54.960 --> 0:07:56.600 And I remember, you know, you and I both know 0:07:56.720 --> 0:07:59.400 Sean it takes a lot to like render him speechless 0:07:59.680 --> 0:08:03.920 leave but he was like like, I was like, you, 0:08:03.920 --> 0:08:07.440 You've got to understand they want the man in prison. 0:08:08.480 --> 0:08:10.680 And I wrote a New York Post article about it 0:08:10.680 --> 0:08:13.040 at the time because I had worked for President Nixon 0:08:13.120 --> 0:08:15.600 during the last years of his life, and President Nixon, 0:08:16.040 --> 0:08:19.320 after he resigned, gave a series of very famous interviews 0:08:19.360 --> 0:08:22.320 to David Frost, and in those interviews he said, look, 0:08:22.880 --> 0:08:25.600 I should have known that I was surrounded by enemies. 0:08:26.440 --> 0:08:29.760 And he said, I should have known that there was 0:08:30.080 --> 0:08:34.160 a standard for Democrats, a standard for Republicans, and then 0:08:34.200 --> 0:08:38.400 there was a standard for me. And unfortunately I gave 0:08:38.480 --> 0:08:41.840 my enemies the sword. It was a very famous quote 0:08:41.880 --> 0:08:45.040 and very famous, and I wrote an article warning Donald 0:08:45.040 --> 0:08:48.400 Trump very early in his presidency, do not give your 0:08:48.520 --> 0:08:52.360 enemies the sword, because your enemies are Richard Nixon's enemies. 0:08:52.800 --> 0:08:55.640 That they're all the same enemies. And yes, people die 0:08:55.679 --> 0:08:59.400 and faces changed, but I'm talking about the institutional enemies 0:09:00.040 --> 0:09:03.120 of the deep state, the permanent bureaucracy, the media, the 0:09:03.120 --> 0:09:07.520 international community, the left, the Democrats. Institutionally, they're all the 0:09:07.559 --> 0:09:11.680 same enemies. Why Because both Richard Nixon and Donald Trump 0:09:11.880 --> 0:09:15.640 were the ultimate outsiders. They came from the outside, not 0:09:15.760 --> 0:09:18.679 from the ruling class, and therefore they were not behold 0:09:18.760 --> 0:09:21.800 into the ruling class and not tied up with towing 0:09:21.800 --> 0:09:26.480 the ruling classes corrupt line and delivering the corrupt status 0:09:26.600 --> 0:09:31.120 quo and protecting each other. No, Richard Nixon and uh 0:09:31.160 --> 0:09:35.920 Donald Trump both were genuinely elected because they wanted to 0:09:35.960 --> 0:09:39.800 deliver for the American people, and they did, and therefore 0:09:39.840 --> 0:09:42.800 they had to be destroyed because they were not there 0:09:42.840 --> 0:09:47.480 to tow the corrupt ruling classes party line. So you know, 0:09:47.600 --> 0:09:51.559 Donald Trump is facing the exact same institutional enemies, and 0:09:51.640 --> 0:09:54.360 that's why, you know, Lisa, they're not going to stop, 0:09:54.920 --> 0:09:58.800 because he represents an existential threat to all of them, 0:09:58.840 --> 0:10:02.160 and they're absolute grip on power in this country to 0:10:02.280 --> 0:10:07.199 control everything, including the UNI Party. So because he represents 0:10:07.240 --> 0:10:10.599 such an existential threat, and he has not cried Uncle 0:10:10.880 --> 0:10:14.880 once Richard Nixon, you know, the pressure ultimately became too 0:10:14.960 --> 0:10:18.280 much for him to bear, and he he decided to 0:10:18.320 --> 0:10:21.600 resign when Barry Goldwater, the head of the Republicans in 0:10:21.640 --> 0:10:23.840 the Senate, came to the White House and told him 0:10:23.880 --> 0:10:27.400 that his Republican support in the Senate had collapsed. So 0:10:27.600 --> 0:10:31.000 if he were facing impeachment, he would probably be convicted 0:10:31.000 --> 0:10:33.200 in the Senate trial. And it was at that moment 0:10:33.240 --> 0:10:36.439 that Nixon said that said, I'm done. It became too much. 0:10:36.760 --> 0:10:41.280 Donald Trump has not cave to that pressure at all yet, 0:10:41.800 --> 0:10:43.920 and I don't think he's going to, which means the 0:10:43.960 --> 0:10:47.920 other side is never gonna stop targeting him and and 0:10:47.960 --> 0:10:53.120 trying to stop him. Um from from actually delivering for America. Again, 0:10:53.160 --> 0:10:57.040 it's not really about Donald Trump. Donald Trump is us right, 0:10:57.080 --> 0:11:00.200 He's like a stand in for the average American who 0:11:00.240 --> 0:11:04.120 just wants, you know, good economy, feed their family, live 0:11:04.200 --> 0:11:07.920 their life according to their own free will. Donald Trump 0:11:07.960 --> 0:11:10.719 was allowing that, and therefore he needs to be stopped. Well, 0:11:10.800 --> 0:11:13.400 that's the irony hairs. We just want to be left alone. 0:11:13.800 --> 0:11:16.560 It's like they just leave us alone and let us 0:11:16.640 --> 0:11:20.080 live our lives freely and independently, and uh, you know, 0:11:20.120 --> 0:11:22.960 give us a little individual liberty, and that's what we want, 0:11:23.120 --> 0:11:25.840 as you know, patriotic Americans. You know, what, what do 0:11:25.880 --> 0:11:28.520 you think people get wrong about Nixon? It's such a 0:11:28.559 --> 0:11:30.960 great question, Lisa. Nobody has asked me that in a 0:11:31.040 --> 0:11:33.760 really long time, so I appreciate the question. I always 0:11:33.840 --> 0:11:37.040 loved talking about him because he was such a great 0:11:37.080 --> 0:11:40.480 man who got who made a series of mistakes, and 0:11:40.520 --> 0:11:44.880 nobody's excusing that, including Richard Nixon. He took full responsibility 0:11:44.920 --> 0:11:48.000 for intervening in the Watergate scandal and making a series 0:11:48.040 --> 0:11:51.360 of really bad mistakes based on bad information that people, 0:11:51.520 --> 0:11:55.040 including the deep state, we're feeding him. Um. But I 0:11:55.080 --> 0:11:58.240 think when people get wrong about Nixon. We've all been 0:11:58.280 --> 0:12:01.880 taught and this probably holds true for most, if not all, 0:12:01.960 --> 0:12:06.120 Republican presidents, the modern ones anyway, that they're somehow dark 0:12:06.120 --> 0:12:11.040 and evil, um, somehow corrupt, um somehow stupid. Right, you're 0:12:11.080 --> 0:12:15.040 either like stupid or evil or corrupt or something that 0:12:15.040 --> 0:12:17.640 that's how the press and the left paints them. Richard 0:12:17.720 --> 0:12:21.400 Nixon was the exact opposite of that. And I was 0:12:21.440 --> 0:12:24.040 so blessed to spend four years working for him, during 0:12:24.080 --> 0:12:27.240 the last four years of his life. UM, and I 0:12:27.360 --> 0:12:30.320 found him to be first of all, brilliant, which even 0:12:30.400 --> 0:12:34.040 his detractors will concede. He was absolutely brilliant. And you 0:12:34.080 --> 0:12:36.160 know what else, Lisa and I say this all the 0:12:36.200 --> 0:12:40.720 time about him. We have had just a few, um, 0:12:40.880 --> 0:12:46.720 actual visionaries as president, and by visionary, I mean presidents 0:12:46.760 --> 0:12:49.200 who could see what the world was gonna look like 0:12:50.320 --> 0:12:54.160 forty years down the road and as president make American 0:12:54.240 --> 0:12:58.800 policy while they were in office to anticipate that world. 0:12:59.360 --> 0:13:03.280 So Richard Nixon was one of our rare visionaries um 0:13:03.360 --> 0:13:06.480 in doing that. And also, you know, he was very generous, 0:13:06.480 --> 0:13:10.360 He was kind, he was very funny, which I think 0:13:10.400 --> 0:13:12.200 you know, if you're asking me a point of question 0:13:12.200 --> 0:13:14.480 about what people get wrong. They think he was very serious, 0:13:14.480 --> 0:13:17.720 and he was. He was an intellectual, so yeah, he 0:13:17.800 --> 0:13:20.320 was very serious, but he also and he was a 0:13:20.360 --> 0:13:23.680 loner for the most part. Um, but he was very funny, 0:13:23.679 --> 0:13:26.480 and I think people you didn't really show that to 0:13:26.600 --> 0:13:31.040 the American people, which is unfortunate because I think when 0:13:31.080 --> 0:13:33.960 you show a sense of humor some self effacement, that 0:13:34.000 --> 0:13:36.880 can go a long way, especially in politics when the 0:13:36.960 --> 0:13:40.559 crap hits the fan, which is always inevitable for any leader. 0:13:41.080 --> 0:13:43.280 And I'm not saying that a sense of humor could 0:13:43.280 --> 0:13:45.280 have saved him in Watergate, but I think it could 0:13:45.280 --> 0:13:48.080 have blunted a lot of the negativity about him. He 0:13:48.160 --> 0:13:52.160 was very, very funny, loved his family, was a great father, 0:13:52.720 --> 0:13:56.040 a very good grandfather. I was around his grandkids at 0:13:56.040 --> 0:13:58.679 the time when they were young, and it was just 0:13:58.880 --> 0:14:01.760 it was such a blessing to be around him because 0:14:01.760 --> 0:14:05.120 he really saw how the real world worked. Um, and 0:14:05.160 --> 0:14:07.880 I love just watching how his mind work. He was 0:14:07.960 --> 0:14:10.320 absolutely brilliant. Well, and it's funny because you mentioned how 0:14:10.320 --> 0:14:12.280 a sense of humor goes a long way, and in 0:14:12.320 --> 0:14:14.440 my mind, the first thing that popped up, and I 0:14:14.480 --> 0:14:17.440 love Megan Kelly, I've I've always thought she was. She's 0:14:17.440 --> 0:14:21.040 incredible and she's incredibly talented. Uh, but the first thing 0:14:21.080 --> 0:14:24.160 that came into my mind was president or ben candidate only. 0:14:24.280 --> 0:14:29.960 Rosie o'donald response. Yeah, probably one of the best. You know, 0:14:30.040 --> 0:14:33.320 Donald Trump is the ultimate showman, right, I mean he 0:14:33.440 --> 0:14:35.400 sort of came out of real estate but also the 0:14:35.560 --> 0:14:40.400 entertainment world, and nobody can match him. He's just authentically funny, 0:14:40.440 --> 0:14:44.560 Like even in his rallies, even now, like six years in, Lisa, 0:14:44.640 --> 0:14:47.000 you watched these rallies, he does like an hour and 0:14:47.000 --> 0:14:50.560 a half of standout only Rosie o'donald, Right, I mean, 0:14:50.640 --> 0:14:53.480 he's incredible. He's got the whole country laughing, except the 0:14:53.520 --> 0:14:56.000 ones who really hate him, and they one of the 0:14:56.040 --> 0:14:59.080 many reasons they hate him is because he's doing this 0:14:59.120 --> 0:15:01.320 out of pure love for the country, but also he's 0:15:01.320 --> 0:15:04.400 having fun, and they're like, oh, no, no fun allowed 0:15:04.520 --> 0:15:06.720 in American politics. Don't you know we're in the middle 0:15:06.720 --> 0:15:09.680 of a communist revolution. There's no fun here. He is 0:15:09.720 --> 0:15:12.320 out there having fun and making the American people laugh, 0:15:12.800 --> 0:15:15.840 even all these years in It's extraordinary, but isn't an 0:15:15.960 --> 0:15:19.520 intentional tactic of the left though. I think they want 0:15:19.880 --> 0:15:23.040 Americans beaten down. They don't want fun, they don't want 0:15:23.040 --> 0:15:25.200 the ability to engage in conversation, they don't want the 0:15:25.200 --> 0:15:27.480 ability to engage in laugh or. They want everyone to 0:15:27.520 --> 0:15:30.240 owe nothing, be depressed, being their home all day long. 0:15:30.720 --> 0:15:34.560 You know, disconnected from family, disconnected. Isn't that the objective 0:15:34.600 --> 0:15:37.280 of the left? I think they're intentionally trying to be 0:15:37.880 --> 0:15:40.360 the great point at least you're totally right. You know, 0:15:40.400 --> 0:15:44.160 the old line about communism is that it's sold as 0:15:45.200 --> 0:15:48.960 that they glorify the sense of equality under communism, But 0:15:49.040 --> 0:15:52.280 the only thing that communism actually delivers is an equal 0:15:52.360 --> 0:15:56.280 share of poverty and misery. And that misery word is 0:15:56.680 --> 0:16:02.200 critical because if you're sitting atop a miserable, dispirited, depressed population, 0:16:02.480 --> 0:16:06.240 those people are more easily controllable. That's the point. Quick 0:16:06.240 --> 0:16:14.440 commercial break, more with Monica Crowley. So, you know, Monica, 0:16:14.640 --> 0:16:17.440 very familiar with the Knicks and administration. You've worked for 0:16:17.480 --> 0:16:20.840 the Trump administration as well, so you've seen the deep state. 0:16:20.840 --> 0:16:23.480 You understand the deep state in a very real way. 0:16:23.840 --> 0:16:26.640 How do you tackle the deep state. It's a really 0:16:26.680 --> 0:16:29.840 good question and a very difficult one because the deep 0:16:29.920 --> 0:16:34.320 state really manifested after World War Two in America, um, 0:16:34.360 --> 0:16:37.840 when the country was booming. But we really did have 0:16:38.080 --> 0:16:42.800 a massive infiltration of actual communists into the United States government. 0:16:43.160 --> 0:16:45.800 You know, Senator McCarthy gets a bad rap with the 0:16:46.000 --> 0:16:48.720 have you no decency sir, because he was trying to 0:16:48.800 --> 0:16:52.200 lead the charge to expose the communist infiltration in the 0:16:52.320 --> 0:16:55.080 US in the government, and it was real and it 0:16:55.160 --> 0:16:58.520 was happening, and he was smeared by the press and 0:16:58.640 --> 0:17:01.240 others for being a commun as hunter when oh, there 0:17:01.280 --> 0:17:04.359 was no communism here. There was, and it was very real, 0:17:04.440 --> 0:17:06.960 and he knew it um and he was out there 0:17:06.960 --> 0:17:09.159 trying to expose it the way Donald Trump all these 0:17:09.240 --> 0:17:12.520 years later is trying to expose the depth of their 0:17:12.560 --> 0:17:17.120 corruption and the the rot in our institutions. People forget 0:17:17.240 --> 0:17:20.679 that the deep state actually began as a KGB operation. 0:17:21.119 --> 0:17:23.520 The KGB in the nineteen thirties said we've got to 0:17:23.560 --> 0:17:26.600 defeat the United States, and they came at us at 0:17:26.600 --> 0:17:28.840 the time in like a full frontal way, and then 0:17:28.880 --> 0:17:32.440 they realized, wait a minute, their constitution is really durable, 0:17:32.480 --> 0:17:35.720 and these people really love their country and the liberties 0:17:35.800 --> 0:17:38.040 that they have, so that's gonna be too tough. Then 0:17:38.040 --> 0:17:41.200 World War Two came, we're basically on the same side 0:17:41.200 --> 0:17:44.480 to defeat Nazi Germany. But after World War Two, when 0:17:44.480 --> 0:17:48.280 the Iron Curtain came down, the KGB changed their tactics 0:17:48.640 --> 0:17:50.320 and they said, Okay, we're not going to be able 0:17:50.359 --> 0:17:53.240 to destroy the United States from without, so we're going 0:17:53.280 --> 0:17:57.560 to destroy them from within. And so they began this infiltration, 0:17:57.920 --> 0:18:00.560 especially in the government, which I talked about, but also 0:18:00.680 --> 0:18:04.840 set their sights on the major pillars of American life 0:18:04.880 --> 0:18:09.159 and culture, the things that really uphold this nation. So 0:18:09.320 --> 0:18:15.400 they went after and grabbed control over the news media, academia, 0:18:15.560 --> 0:18:20.920 and our culture movies, television, music. So once they were infiltrated, 0:18:20.960 --> 0:18:24.320 in addition to the government being infiltrated, they created like 0:18:25.119 --> 0:18:27.400 and not just the deep state like you think, oh, 0:18:27.480 --> 0:18:30.480 the CIA, the FBI, that kind of deep state, which 0:18:30.560 --> 0:18:34.399 is incredibly powerful and dangerous, but also they created a 0:18:34.440 --> 0:18:38.359 deep state outside of the government by grabbing control of 0:18:38.400 --> 0:18:41.520 these pillars. So when we talk about how we defeat it, 0:18:41.520 --> 0:18:44.920 it is a huge uphill battle because they're in every 0:18:44.960 --> 0:18:48.960 nook and cranny of American society and life. So if 0:18:48.960 --> 0:18:52.399 you're talking about the government aspect of this, this is 0:18:52.400 --> 0:18:55.960 going to require a president, whether it's Trump or De 0:18:56.040 --> 0:19:00.639 Santis or whomever, and and maybe multiple presidents because the 0:19:00.680 --> 0:19:04.480 project is so big to really take it on, be 0:19:04.560 --> 0:19:07.879 willing to take this on, have the political will to 0:19:07.920 --> 0:19:11.240 do it, and in a first term, really in the 0:19:11.320 --> 0:19:14.400 first year of a new presidency, you've got to smash 0:19:14.600 --> 0:19:18.160 the entire uh deep state. And by that, I mean 0:19:18.480 --> 0:19:23.919 you've got to take control of firing entire classes of 0:19:24.000 --> 0:19:29.800 people in the US government careers, political appointees, everybody needs 0:19:29.840 --> 0:19:33.520 to go. You've got to shrink these institutions. And there's 0:19:33.520 --> 0:19:36.000 some argument that you don't even need like an FBI, 0:19:36.840 --> 0:19:38.520 or you've got to raise it to the ground and 0:19:38.600 --> 0:19:41.600 start from scratch. I'm among those people who believes that 0:19:41.800 --> 0:19:45.400 the FBI in particular is beyond redemption. So you've got 0:19:45.400 --> 0:19:47.600 to raise it to the ground and start from scratch 0:19:47.920 --> 0:19:51.440 with a brand new institution, hiring individuals that are fully 0:19:51.520 --> 0:19:56.359 vetted and that that is, that are easily watchable um 0:19:56.400 --> 0:19:59.440 and monitored for their behavior, because right now we have 0:19:59.520 --> 0:20:03.160 none of at So you've got institutions that wholesale needs 0:20:03.160 --> 0:20:07.400 to be rooted, up root and branch, Lisa, but you've 0:20:07.440 --> 0:20:11.359 got to have a president who's got nerves of steel 0:20:12.080 --> 0:20:13.960 in order to do this. And there are only two 0:20:14.000 --> 0:20:16.399 that I can see on the landscape, Donald Trump and 0:20:16.560 --> 0:20:19.960 Ron Santis. And and Donald Trump has been through this 0:20:20.359 --> 0:20:22.960 um and he's certainly in their cross hairs and remain so, 0:20:23.760 --> 0:20:26.280 but Ron and Santis as well. I mean, he is 0:20:26.320 --> 0:20:29.720 fully aware of what the internal enemies are in the 0:20:29.840 --> 0:20:32.560 United States. So I think those two men are really 0:20:32.600 --> 0:20:35.720 the only two with the fortitude to take on this. 0:20:35.920 --> 0:20:38.159 And as far as government goes, you've got to upproach, 0:20:38.520 --> 0:20:43.040 uproot all of it, fire everybody, remove the rot from 0:20:43.080 --> 0:20:45.320 all the way down to the ground. And then in 0:20:45.440 --> 0:20:49.440 terms of the culture, that's a much more long range project. 0:20:50.000 --> 0:20:52.880 But that's why you know, when we've got conservative authors, 0:20:52.960 --> 0:20:57.399 conservative television, conservative movies, documentaries, we need to go and 0:20:57.480 --> 0:21:00.320 support that to the helps go buy movie to gets 0:21:00.320 --> 0:21:03.000 for Christian movies and so on, because you've got to 0:21:03.040 --> 0:21:05.680 start sending these signals that we're not going to tolerate 0:21:05.720 --> 0:21:09.880 the rot that's going on everywhere else. Besides the government. 0:21:10.080 --> 0:21:13.080 This has to be a wholesale change of the US culture. 0:21:13.160 --> 0:21:16.320 And again, Lisa, they have been at this for decades, 0:21:16.720 --> 0:21:19.520 so this isn't something that I think one president can 0:21:19.560 --> 0:21:24.320 do alone, and he and they um have to have 0:21:24.359 --> 0:21:26.680 the support of all of us. We cannot go wobbly. 0:21:27.040 --> 0:21:29.240 We've got to give them total back up here on 0:21:29.280 --> 0:21:32.040 the ground. Well, and I'm a De Santis or Trump too. 0:21:32.080 --> 0:21:34.639 I think those are the only two. And De Santis 0:21:34.720 --> 0:21:38.560 is incredibly methodical and very disciplined, uh and his execution 0:21:38.600 --> 0:21:41.040 as well. So those are my two guys that uh, 0:21:41.320 --> 0:21:42.960 you know, I i'd vote for. I don't think anyone 0:21:42.960 --> 0:21:44.880 else has the stomach for what needs to get done. 0:21:44.880 --> 0:21:47.640 And it really needs to happen on day one because 0:21:47.680 --> 0:21:51.520 even when President Trump fired Comy, there's just too much time, 0:21:51.760 --> 0:21:53.600 you know, then it looked they try to make it 0:21:53.640 --> 0:21:55.439 look like, oh he was covering up, you know. So 0:21:55.480 --> 0:21:57.800 you've got to do it day one, get rid of 0:21:57.880 --> 0:22:00.320 at as many people as you possibly can, just anthel 0:22:00.359 --> 0:22:02.520 government from within as much as you possibly can on 0:22:02.640 --> 0:22:05.720 day one. I think that's the first step of action 0:22:05.840 --> 0:22:08.879 in my opinion, that the next Republican president, if we 0:22:08.920 --> 0:22:12.320 can get one end, that's what they gotta do. Yes, absolutely, 0:22:12.400 --> 0:22:17.080 and I think both both men now understand that no 0:22:17.119 --> 0:22:21.080 matter whom the Republicans nominated for president in twenty four 0:22:21.600 --> 0:22:24.320 the left is going to burn down the country again. 0:22:25.080 --> 0:22:26.800 So you know a lot of people say, oh, well, 0:22:26.800 --> 0:22:30.360 Donald Trump, with the drama and all of this, understand 0:22:30.600 --> 0:22:33.040 that the left is at war. There. It were with 0:22:33.080 --> 0:22:36.240 the Constitution, there were with individual liberty, there were with 0:22:36.359 --> 0:22:40.119 free market capitalism. They're at war. So it doesn't matter 0:22:40.160 --> 0:22:43.040 if you nominate Donald Trump or Rhonda Santis or Christie 0:22:43.080 --> 0:22:46.040 nom or whomever. It doesn't matter. They're going to burn 0:22:46.119 --> 0:22:49.160 down the country again. So my view is you better 0:22:49.160 --> 0:22:52.800 go with the guy that you believe has been through 0:22:52.800 --> 0:22:56.439 the fire before and has the guts the stones to 0:22:56.600 --> 0:22:59.320 push forward with this, because that's what it's going to 0:22:59.440 --> 0:23:01.840