Speaker 1: So we've got the great Monica Crowley as this episode's guests.
Speaker 1: She's a friend of mine. I'm missing her around. I
Speaker 1: haven't seen her in quite some time. I always respect
Speaker 1: what she has to say. She's so smart, just has
Speaker 1: her finger on the pulse, always brings a different insight
Speaker 1: than you know what a lot of other people are missing.
Speaker 1: She's just so smart, so accomplished. So I'm really looking
Speaker 1: forward to this episode. One just reconnecting with a friend,
Speaker 1: and then two just turned from her about everything that's
Speaker 1: going on in the country. We've got the FBI raid,
Speaker 1: we've got election coming up. You know, everything seems to
Speaker 1: be going wrong in the country right now. So I'm
Speaker 1: just really looking to her to get her insight on
Speaker 1: all of this, to sort of, you know, let us
Speaker 1: know what we need to be looking at, what's ahead.
Speaker 1: Getting her insight. You know her from Fox News. She
Speaker 1: was on Fox for a number of years, still still
Speaker 1: is on Fox. She left to go serve the Trump administration.
Speaker 1: Served the country as a former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury.
Speaker 1: She has her own podcast. She's the host of the
Speaker 1: Monica Crowley Podcast. You're gonna want to go check that
Speaker 1: out as well. She is an author. I mean, she
Speaker 1: used to be on the Council on Foreign Relations. I mean,
Speaker 1: you can go down the list of all the things
Speaker 1: that Monica Crowley has done. She is brilliant, she is smart,
Speaker 1: and she's an awesome person. So I really hope you
Speaker 1: enjoyed this interview with Monica Crowley. So I am so
Speaker 1: excited about this guy. So we have Monica Crowley. Monica,
Speaker 1: I've been suing you and so long. I miss you.
Speaker 1: I know I miss you too, Lisa. I can't wait
Speaker 1: to see you in person again and give you big squeeze. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we'll have to u connect in Florida. So I think
Speaker 1: you're in West Palm and I'm in Miami, so we
Speaker 1: need to connect soon. I can't wait. I mean, Monica,
Speaker 1: it's just I think we're all just looking at the
Speaker 1: events of the past week and really just the past
Speaker 1: few months, and are asking ourselves, you know, what's going
Speaker 1: on in America, what's going on in the country right now?
Speaker 1: You know, Lisa, there's so many days I wake up
Speaker 1: and I literally want this all to be a bad dream,
Speaker 1: like I wanted to be that I slept through a
Speaker 1: nightmare that Joe Biden was president and deliberately torpedoing the
Speaker 1: United States of America. And when I really come to
Speaker 1: Donald Trump will still be president, We'll have a thriving
Speaker 1: economy and world peace. But unfortunately, sadly, that's not the case.
Speaker 1: So look, I think what the American people need to
Speaker 1: really understand is what actually is happening here. And you
Speaker 1: and I we work in news, we do our podcasts,
Speaker 1: we appure on Fox News, we're on radio. It. You know,
Speaker 1: it's very easy to get lost in the trees and
Speaker 1: loose sight of the forest because we're constantly battling back
Speaker 1: that the daily horror. Right So, whether it's the FBI
Speaker 1: rating mar Lago, or the astrophic withdrawal from Afghanistan one
Speaker 1: year ago, or whatever it might be, raging inflation, sky
Speaker 1: high gas prisis, we tend to get lost in the
Speaker 1: day to day because it's also horrific. But I really
Speaker 1: think that the American people need to take a step
Speaker 1: back with us and understand what's really going on. We
Speaker 1: are in the midst right now of a Neo Marxist revolution.
Speaker 1: And I don't use that phrase lightly, Lisa. I don't
Speaker 1: just throw around this stuff like, oh, you know, it's
Speaker 1: it's also crazy. Yeah, it is so crazy, but there
Speaker 1: is a method to their madness. The modern Democratic Party
Speaker 1: is not the Democratic Party of JFK or Bill Clinton.
Speaker 1: This is now a Marxist revolutionary party. And the key
Speaker 1: two words there are Marxist, so you need to know
Speaker 1: what the ideology is, but also revolutionary. They are literally
Speaker 1: revolutionaries working around the clock too. In Obama's words, fundamentally
Speaker 1: transformed the nation. When a Bama said that in Lisa,
Speaker 1: I remember going on Fox News with like Bill O'Reilly
Speaker 1: and John Imus and they were all like, oh, come on,
Speaker 1: Crowley communism, and I need if you use the word
Speaker 1: communism or Marxism at the time, I used the softer socialism.
Speaker 1: They were like, Crowley socialism, You're crazy, Like, come on,
Speaker 1: Barack Obama socialists and I was like yeah, yeah, and
Speaker 1: we need to understand where this is going. So Obama
Speaker 1: had eight years to begin that transformation of the country,
Speaker 1: and unfortunately, like there were very few of us. It
Speaker 1: was like you and me and a couple of other
Speaker 1: people who actually had the courage to to tease it
Speaker 1: out to the next step, which is, well, what what
Speaker 1: exactly does Obama mean by the fundamental transformation of the nation.
Speaker 1: So many people wanted to give him the benefit of
Speaker 1: the doubt and say, well, you know, he he just means,
Speaker 1: you know, kind of restore restore America's power after the
Speaker 1: war in Iraq, and this and that. No, that this
Speaker 1: is the fundamental transformation of the nation as the Democrats
Speaker 1: today mean. It is away from the very pillars that
Speaker 1: made us great individual liberty, economic freedom, strong, national defense,
Speaker 1: um and and all of the things that that gave
Speaker 1: this country to pushed toward greatness. In a very short
Speaker 1: amount of time, they intend to strip the country of
Speaker 1: free market capitalism and individual freedom and take this country
Speaker 1: in a more collectivist, neo Marxist or neo communist kind
Speaker 1: of model. Donald Trump was not supposed to be elected
Speaker 1: in sixteen. It was supposed to be eight years of
Speaker 1: Obama than eight years of Hillary where they could really
Speaker 1: lock all of this in. So when Trump got elected,
Speaker 1: he threw a monkey wrench in their whole great reset
Speaker 1: here at home, this whole grand project. And so what
Speaker 1: you're seeing now, Lisa, to answer your question about what
Speaker 1: is going on that they are making up for lost
Speaker 1: time they lost four years under Trump, where Trump actually
Speaker 1: was solving all of America's problems and delivering a thriving
Speaker 1: economy and world peace. They lost those four years. So
Speaker 1: now what you're seeing is this great reset here at
Speaker 1: home on steroids. They're moving with all deliberate speed to
Speaker 1: make up for that lost time. But make no mistake
Speaker 1: about it, this is a neo Communist, a Marxist revolution
Speaker 1: that we are living through right now. What's your point.
Speaker 1: I mean, they're they're destroying every institution, They're destroying the
Speaker 1: things that's even just stabilize the country. I mean, the
Speaker 1: rule of law. I mean, you look at how lawless
Speaker 1: these cities are across America, where you know, these people
Speaker 1: who are murdered, you know, it's just revolving door of crime,
Speaker 1: of letting these people out and not punishing them and
Speaker 1: treating uh, you know, in the instance of Jose Jose Alba,
Speaker 1: you know, treating uh, you know, the victim as the
Speaker 1: criminal and the criminal as the victim. It's just this
Speaker 1: totally warped perspect active we're in. But to your point,
Speaker 1: you know that they are essentially waging this war on
Speaker 1: Donald Trump. You can go through the list of investigations
Speaker 1: that they've launched his way. Uh, impeachment. The list goes on.
Speaker 1: He's facing civil investigation in New York, You've got the
Speaker 1: FBI rating his home. He's also facing another probe out
Speaker 1: of Georgia. I mean, how far do you think Democrats
Speaker 1: will take all of this? I think they want to
Speaker 1: take it as far as they can can take it,
Speaker 1: which is ultimately they want Donald Trump in prison. I
Speaker 1: remember going on Sean Hannity's show on Fox News March
Speaker 1: of twenties seventeen, so Donald Trump had been president for
Speaker 1: only two months, and I remember saying on the air
Speaker 1: to Sean and to America that they don't just want
Speaker 1: to undermine Trump's presidency or destroy his presidency, although they
Speaker 1: certainly wanted to do that. They want the man in prison.
Speaker 1: And I remember, you know, you and I both know
Speaker 1: Sean it takes a lot to like render him speechless
Speaker 1: leave but he was like like, I was like, you,
Speaker 1: You've got to understand they want the man in prison.
Speaker 1: And I wrote a New York Post article about it
Speaker 1: at the time because I had worked for President Nixon
Speaker 1: during the last years of his life, and President Nixon,
Speaker 1: after he resigned, gave a series of very famous interviews
Speaker 1: to David Frost, and in those interviews he said, look,
Speaker 1: I should have known that I was surrounded by enemies.
Speaker 1: And he said, I should have known that there was
Speaker 1: a standard for Democrats, a standard for Republicans, and then
Speaker 1: there was a standard for me. And unfortunately I gave
Speaker 1: my enemies the sword. It was a very famous quote
Speaker 1: and very famous, and I wrote an article warning Donald
Speaker 1: Trump very early in his presidency, do not give your
Speaker 1: enemies the sword, because your enemies are Richard Nixon's enemies.
Speaker 1: That they're all the same enemies. And yes, people die
Speaker 1: and faces changed, but I'm talking about the institutional enemies
Speaker 1: of the deep state, the permanent bureaucracy, the media, the
Speaker 1: international community, the left, the Democrats. Institutionally, they're all the
Speaker 1: same enemies. Why Because both Richard Nixon and Donald Trump
Speaker 1: were the ultimate outsiders. They came from the outside, not
Speaker 1: from the ruling class, and therefore they were not behold
Speaker 1: into the ruling class and not tied up with towing
Speaker 1: the ruling classes corrupt line and delivering the corrupt status
Speaker 1: quo and protecting each other. No, Richard Nixon and uh
Speaker 1: Donald Trump both were genuinely elected because they wanted to
Speaker 1: deliver for the American people, and they did, and therefore
Speaker 1: they had to be destroyed because they were not there
Speaker 1: to tow the corrupt ruling classes party line. So you know,
Speaker 1: Donald Trump is facing the exact same institutional enemies, and
Speaker 1: that's why, you know, Lisa, they're not going to stop,
Speaker 1: because he represents an existential threat to all of them,
Speaker 1: and they're absolute grip on power in this country to
Speaker 1: control everything, including the UNI Party. So because he represents
Speaker 1: such an existential threat, and he has not cried Uncle
Speaker 1: once Richard Nixon, you know, the pressure ultimately became too
Speaker 1: much for him to bear, and he he decided to
Speaker 1: resign when Barry Goldwater, the head of the Republicans in
Speaker 1: the Senate, came to the White House and told him
Speaker 1: that his Republican support in the Senate had collapsed. So
Speaker 1: if he were facing impeachment, he would probably be convicted
Speaker 1: in the Senate trial. And it was at that moment
Speaker 1: that Nixon said that said, I'm done. It became too much.
Speaker 1: Donald Trump has not cave to that pressure at all yet,
Speaker 1: and I don't think he's going to, which means the
Speaker 1: other side is never gonna stop targeting him and and
Speaker 1: trying to stop him. Um from from actually delivering for America. Again,
Speaker 1: it's not really about Donald Trump. Donald Trump is us right,
Speaker 1: He's like a stand in for the average American who
Speaker 1: just wants, you know, good economy, feed their family, live
Speaker 1: their life according to their own free will. Donald Trump
Speaker 1: was allowing that, and therefore he needs to be stopped. Well,
Speaker 1: that's the irony hairs. We just want to be left alone.
Speaker 1: It's like they just leave us alone and let us
Speaker 1: live our lives freely and independently, and uh, you know,
Speaker 1: give us a little individual liberty, and that's what we want,
Speaker 1: as you know, patriotic Americans. You know, what, what do
Speaker 1: you think people get wrong about Nixon? It's such a
Speaker 1: great question, Lisa. Nobody has asked me that in a
Speaker 1: really long time, so I appreciate the question. I always
Speaker 1: loved talking about him because he was such a great
Speaker 1: man who got who made a series of mistakes, and
Speaker 1: nobody's excusing that, including Richard Nixon. He took full responsibility
Speaker 1: for intervening in the Watergate scandal and making a series
Speaker 1: of really bad mistakes based on bad information that people,
Speaker 1: including the deep state, we're feeding him. Um. But I
Speaker 1: think when people get wrong about Nixon. We've all been
Speaker 1: taught and this probably holds true for most, if not all,
Speaker 1: Republican presidents, the modern ones anyway, that they're somehow dark
Speaker 1: and evil, um, somehow corrupt, um somehow stupid. Right, you're
Speaker 1: either like stupid or evil or corrupt or something that
Speaker 1: that's how the press and the left paints them. Richard
Speaker 1: Nixon was the exact opposite of that. And I was
Speaker 1: so blessed to spend four years working for him, during
Speaker 1: the last four years of his life. UM, and I
Speaker 1: found him to be first of all, brilliant, which even
Speaker 1: his detractors will concede. He was absolutely brilliant. And you
Speaker 1: know what else, Lisa and I say this all the
Speaker 1: time about him. We have had just a few, um,
Speaker 1: actual visionaries as president, and by visionary, I mean presidents
Speaker 1: who could see what the world was gonna look like
Speaker 1: forty years down the road and as president make American
Speaker 1: policy while they were in office to anticipate that world.
Speaker 1: So Richard Nixon was one of our rare visionaries um
Speaker 1: in doing that. And also, you know, he was very generous,
Speaker 1: He was kind, he was very funny, which I think
Speaker 1: you know, if you're asking me a point of question
Speaker 1: about what people get wrong. They think he was very serious,
Speaker 1: and he was. He was an intellectual, so yeah, he
Speaker 1: was very serious, but he also and he was a
Speaker 1: loner for the most part. Um, but he was very funny,
Speaker 1: and I think people you didn't really show that to
Speaker 1: the American people, which is unfortunate because I think when
Speaker 1: you show a sense of humor some self effacement, that
Speaker 1: can go a long way, especially in politics when the
Speaker 1: crap hits the fan, which is always inevitable for any leader.
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that a sense of humor could
Speaker 1: have saved him in Watergate, but I think it could
Speaker 1: have blunted a lot of the negativity about him. He
Speaker 1: was very, very funny, loved his family, was a great father,
Speaker 1: a very good grandfather. I was around his grandkids at
Speaker 1: the time when they were young, and it was just
Speaker 1: it was such a blessing to be around him because
Speaker 1: he really saw how the real world worked. Um, and
Speaker 1: I love just watching how his mind work. He was
Speaker 1: absolutely brilliant. Well, and it's funny because you mentioned how
Speaker 1: a sense of humor goes a long way, and in
Speaker 1: my mind, the first thing that popped up, and I
Speaker 1: love Megan Kelly, I've I've always thought she was. She's
Speaker 1: incredible and she's incredibly talented. Uh, but the first thing
Speaker 1: that came into my mind was president or ben candidate only.
Speaker 1: Rosie o'donald response. Yeah, probably one of the best. You know,
Speaker 1: Donald Trump is the ultimate showman, right, I mean he
Speaker 1: sort of came out of real estate but also the
Speaker 1: entertainment world, and nobody can match him. He's just authentically funny,
Speaker 1: Like even in his rallies, even now, like six years in, Lisa,
Speaker 1: you watched these rallies, he does like an hour and
Speaker 1: a half of standout only Rosie o'donald, Right, I mean,
Speaker 1: he's incredible. He's got the whole country laughing, except the
Speaker 1: ones who really hate him, and they one of the
Speaker 1: many reasons they hate him is because he's doing this
Speaker 1: out of pure love for the country, but also he's
Speaker 1: having fun, and they're like, oh, no, no fun allowed
Speaker 1: in American politics. Don't you know we're in the middle
Speaker 1: of a communist revolution. There's no fun here. He is
Speaker 1: out there having fun and making the American people laugh,
Speaker 1: even all these years in It's extraordinary, but isn't an
Speaker 1: intentional tactic of the left though. I think they want
Speaker 1: Americans beaten down. They don't want fun, they don't want
Speaker 1: the ability to engage in conversation, they don't want the
Speaker 1: ability to engage in laugh or. They want everyone to
Speaker 1: owe nothing, be depressed, being their home all day long.
Speaker 1: You know, disconnected from family, disconnected. Isn't that the objective
Speaker 1: of the left? I think they're intentionally trying to be
Speaker 1: the great point at least you're totally right. You know,
Speaker 1: the old line about communism is that it's sold as
Speaker 1: that they glorify the sense of equality under communism, But
Speaker 1: the only thing that communism actually delivers is an equal
Speaker 1: share of poverty and misery. And that misery word is
Speaker 1: critical because if you're sitting atop a miserable, dispirited, depressed population,
Speaker 1: those people are more easily controllable. That's the point. Quick
Speaker 1: commercial break, more with Monica Crowley. So, you know, Monica,
Speaker 1: very familiar with the Knicks and administration. You've worked for
Speaker 1: the Trump administration as well, so you've seen the deep state.
Speaker 1: You understand the deep state in a very real way.
Speaker 1: How do you tackle the deep state. It's a really
Speaker 1: good question and a very difficult one because the deep
Speaker 1: state really manifested after World War Two in America, um,
Speaker 1: when the country was booming. But we really did have
Speaker 1: a massive infiltration of actual communists into the United States government.
Speaker 1: You know, Senator McCarthy gets a bad rap with the
Speaker 1: have you no decency sir, because he was trying to
Speaker 1: lead the charge to expose the communist infiltration in the
Speaker 1: US in the government, and it was real and it
Speaker 1: was happening, and he was smeared by the press and
Speaker 1: others for being a commun as hunter when oh, there
Speaker 1: was no communism here. There was, and it was very real,
Speaker 1: and he knew it um and he was out there
Speaker 1: trying to expose it the way Donald Trump all these
Speaker 1: years later is trying to expose the depth of their
Speaker 1: corruption and the the rot in our institutions. People forget
Speaker 1: that the deep state actually began as a KGB operation.
Speaker 1: The KGB in the nineteen thirties said we've got to
Speaker 1: defeat the United States, and they came at us at
Speaker 1: the time in like a full frontal way, and then
Speaker 1: they realized, wait a minute, their constitution is really durable,
Speaker 1: and these people really love their country and the liberties
Speaker 1: that they have, so that's gonna be too tough. Then
Speaker 1: World War Two came, we're basically on the same side
Speaker 1: to defeat Nazi Germany. But after World War Two, when
Speaker 1: the Iron Curtain came down, the KGB changed their tactics
Speaker 1: and they said, Okay, we're not going to be able
Speaker 1: to destroy the United States from without, so we're going
Speaker 1: to destroy them from within. And so they began this infiltration,
Speaker 1: especially in the government, which I talked about, but also
Speaker 1: set their sights on the major pillars of American life
Speaker 1: and culture, the things that really uphold this nation. So
Speaker 1: they went after and grabbed control over the news media, academia,
Speaker 1: and our culture movies, television, music. So once they were infiltrated,
Speaker 1: in addition to the government being infiltrated, they created like
Speaker 1: and not just the deep state like you think, oh,
Speaker 1: the CIA, the FBI, that kind of deep state, which
Speaker 1: is incredibly powerful and dangerous, but also they created a
Speaker 1: deep state outside of the government by grabbing control of
Speaker 1: these pillars. So when we talk about how we defeat it,
Speaker 1: it is a huge uphill battle because they're in every
Speaker 1: nook and cranny of American society and life. So if
Speaker 1: you're talking about the government aspect of this, this is
Speaker 1: going to require a president, whether it's Trump or De
Speaker 1: Santis or whomever, and and maybe multiple presidents because the
Speaker 1: project is so big to really take it on, be
Speaker 1: willing to take this on, have the political will to
Speaker 1: do it, and in a first term, really in the
Speaker 1: first year of a new presidency, you've got to smash
Speaker 1: the entire uh deep state. And by that, I mean
Speaker 1: you've got to take control of firing entire classes of
Speaker 1: people in the US government careers, political appointees, everybody needs
Speaker 1: to go. You've got to shrink these institutions. And there's
Speaker 1: some argument that you don't even need like an FBI,
Speaker 1: or you've got to raise it to the ground and
Speaker 1: start from scratch. I'm among those people who believes that
Speaker 1: the FBI in particular is beyond redemption. So you've got
Speaker 1: to raise it to the ground and start from scratch
Speaker 1: with a brand new institution, hiring individuals that are fully
Speaker 1: vetted and that that is, that are easily watchable um
Speaker 1: and monitored for their behavior, because right now we have
Speaker 1: none of at So you've got institutions that wholesale needs
Speaker 1: to be rooted, up root and branch, Lisa, but you've
Speaker 1: got to have a president who's got nerves of steel
Speaker 1: in order to do this. And there are only two
Speaker 1: that I can see on the landscape, Donald Trump and
Speaker 1: Ron Santis. And and Donald Trump has been through this
Speaker 1: um and he's certainly in their cross hairs and remain so,
Speaker 1: but Ron and Santis as well. I mean, he is
Speaker 1: fully aware of what the internal enemies are in the
Speaker 1: United States. So I think those two men are really
Speaker 1: the only two with the fortitude to take on this.
Speaker 1: And as far as government goes, you've got to upproach,
Speaker 1: uproot all of it, fire everybody, remove the rot from
Speaker 1: all the way down to the ground. And then in
Speaker 1: terms of the culture, that's a much more long range project.
Speaker 1: But that's why you know, when we've got conservative authors,
Speaker 1: conservative television, conservative movies, documentaries, we need to go and
Speaker 1: support that to the helps go buy movie to gets
Speaker 1: for Christian movies and so on, because you've got to
Speaker 1: start sending these signals that we're not going to tolerate
Speaker 1: the rot that's going on everywhere else. Besides the government.
Speaker 1: This has to be a wholesale change of the US culture.
Speaker 1: And again, Lisa, they have been at this for decades,
Speaker 1: so this isn't something that I think one president can
Speaker 1: do alone, and he and they um have to have
Speaker 1: the support of all of us. We cannot go wobbly.
Speaker 1: We've got to give them total back up here on
Speaker 1: the ground. Well, and I'm a De Santis or Trump too.
Speaker 1: I think those are the only two. And De Santis
Speaker 1: is incredibly methodical and very disciplined, uh and his execution
Speaker 1: as well. So those are my two guys that uh,
Speaker 1: you know, I i'd vote for. I don't think anyone
Speaker 1: else has the stomach for what needs to get done.
Speaker 1: And it really needs to happen on day one because
Speaker 1: even when President Trump fired Comy, there's just too much time,
Speaker 1: you know, then it looked they try to make it
Speaker 1: look like, oh he was covering up, you know. So
Speaker 1: you've got to do it day one, get rid of
Speaker 1: at as many people as you possibly can, just anthel
Speaker 1: government from within as much as you possibly can on
Speaker 1: day one. I think that's the first step of action
Speaker 1: in my opinion, that the next Republican president, if we
Speaker 1: can get one end, that's what they gotta do. Yes, absolutely,
Speaker 1: and I think both both men now understand that no
Speaker 1: matter whom the Republicans nominated for president in twenty four
Speaker 1: the left is going to burn down the country again.
Speaker 1: So you know a lot of people say, oh, well,
Speaker 1: Donald Trump, with the drama and all of this, understand
Speaker 1: that the left is at war. There. It were with
Speaker 1: the Constitution, there were with individual liberty, there were with
Speaker 1: free market capitalism. They're at war. So it doesn't matter
Speaker 1: if you nominate Donald Trump or Rhonda Santis or Christie
Speaker 1: nom or whomever. It doesn't matter. They're going to burn
Speaker 1: down the country again. So my view is you better
Speaker 1: go with the guy that you believe has been through
Speaker 1: the fire before and has the guts the stones to
Speaker 1: push forward with this, because that's what it's going to
Speaker 1: take to see of this country. Well, and they smear
Speaker 1: everyone too, you know. I mean they called even Romney
Speaker 1: it was a sexist, McCain was a ratio. I'm an anthem,
Speaker 1: exactly exactly. This is what they do. Yeah, It's like
Speaker 1: they just smear everyone and anyone that is in their path,
Speaker 1: you know. So we're it's been a year since that
Speaker 1: disastrous withdraw from Afghanistan, which was a real turning point,
Speaker 1: I believe in the public perception of this administration, just
Speaker 1: saying a president stand there and turn his back to questions,
Speaker 1: turn his back to the Americans that were left behind Afghanistan.
Speaker 1: There's still in Afghanistan. Um. Wait, you know what's going
Speaker 1: through your mind in reflecting a year after that disastrous withdrawal.
Speaker 1: You know, it's hard to believe that a year has
Speaker 1: gone by, because we all remember it's so crystal clear
Speaker 1: and we could not believe our eyes. It's really hard
Speaker 1: to overstate the catastrophic nature of what he what he did. Now,
Speaker 1: Donald Trump ran in t you know, getting the US
Speaker 1: out of all foreign wars, and he kept his word
Speaker 1: when it came from Afghanistan. The Trump administration had a
Speaker 1: very clear plan on how to withdraw fully in a
Speaker 1: very responsible way with conditions based. Um, he was going
Speaker 1: to leave a remnant force, a very small remnant force,
Speaker 1: as a deterrent to the resurgence of the Taliban and
Speaker 1: terrorist forces there. He was going to carry it out
Speaker 1: in a very responsible way in a second term. That
Speaker 1: second term name never happened. But they handed off the
Speaker 1: plan to the Biden administration. Now at the time, Joe Biden,
Speaker 1: and he continues to be this way Orange Man bad.
Speaker 1: Everything Orange Man did bad. Therefore we're going to do
Speaker 1: the exact opposite of what Orange Man did, even though
Speaker 1: Orange Man delivered a thriving economy and world peace. So
Speaker 1: as part of that absolutely absurd, childish and dangerous strategy, Lisa,
Speaker 1: they decided to say, well, Biden said, I'm getting out now,
Speaker 1: and I'm not going to use the Trump plant forget it.
Speaker 1: So we're just going to do a precipitous withdrawal. That
Speaker 1: meant taking the military out first, which even a three
Speaker 1: year old, if you described it to them, would tell
Speaker 1: you if you're going to be a huge mistake, take
Speaker 1: the military outlast. But no, Biden took out the military first,
Speaker 1: stranding thousands of American citizens in a terrorist war zone. UM,
Speaker 1: imperiling the Afghan people that had come to trust us
Speaker 1: and our word, sending women in Afghanistan once again back
Speaker 1: to the Stone Age, veiled, no education, and so on,
Speaker 1: everybody there under threat, and created a power vacuum in
Speaker 1: Afghanistan which has obviously and predictably been filled by al Qaeda.
Speaker 1: I mean, we just took out um also were here
Speaker 1: he who was hanging out where in Afghanistan? So al
Speaker 1: Qaida's back the Taliban, but also the Chinese, the Russians,
Speaker 1: and the Iranians. They're all over Afghanistan, controlling it, running it,
Speaker 1: having a field day, and using the country as a
Speaker 1: base of operation for all kinds of nefarious plans against
Speaker 1: the United States and our interests around the world. You
Speaker 1: know what I just went through my mind when it
Speaker 1: kind of made me laugh a little bit in a
Speaker 1: in a sad way, because you're talking about, you know,
Speaker 1: Orange Man bad Biden coming in wanting to do with
Speaker 1: a complete opposite of what President Trump did. Well. President
Speaker 1: Trump was probably one of the best presidents we had
Speaker 1: and and to your point, really he Biden has done
Speaker 1: the opposite which has led us to this dumpster fire
Speaker 1: that we're in today. Whether it's the economy, whether it's
Speaker 1: immigration and it open borders, or Afghanistan. I mean, he really,
Speaker 1: you know, has done the opposite which has put us in,
Speaker 1: uh you know, this sad and uh you know, terrible
Speaker 1: place that we are in in American history. Yeah. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: And I talk a lot about this on my podcast
Speaker 1: because it's critical that the American people understand where we
Speaker 1: are here and keep in mind, when he withdrew in
Speaker 1: that catastrophic way from Afghanistan, America's biggest enemies, we're watching
Speaker 1: ching very closely, including the Kremlin and including Beijing, and
Speaker 1: they saw that we have a weak, senile commander in
Speaker 1: chief who really doesn't really care about America's interests or
Speaker 1: the interest of freedom around the world, or in defending
Speaker 1: those interests. So what do you think Vladimir Putin did?
Speaker 1: He immediately began planning the invasion of Ukraine. Beijing. Now
Speaker 1: President She, they are also eyeing up Taiwan because they
Speaker 1: all realize Li said that they've got a very small
Speaker 1: wind of opportunity to act in their nation's interests. Look,
Speaker 1: I don't blame She or Putin for doing what they're doing.
Speaker 1: They would be politically negligent if they didn't try to
Speaker 1: advance their country's interests at this period of time with
Speaker 1: a very weak United States and a very weak American president.
Speaker 1: So of course they're going to take advantage of this moment,
Speaker 1: as they should, but it's going to be a very
Speaker 1: heavy lift for the next president to try to re
Speaker 1: establish peace and stability and advanced freedom in the wake
Speaker 1: of all of this. Well, and President Trump was probably
Speaker 1: the best foreign policy president we've ever had. I know,
Speaker 1: he really got me. I've talked about this in my podcast,
Speaker 1: quite a quite a deal that he has. Really, he
Speaker 1: really got me to re examine the way I view
Speaker 1: foreign policy because you know, previously I thought that you
Speaker 1: needed to engage more to sort of show might and
Speaker 1: to you know, assert your stature in the world. And
Speaker 1: President Trump relay showed that you don't have to send troops, right.
Speaker 1: You can send Mother of All bombs to Afghanistan. You
Speaker 1: can send Tomahawk missiles to Syria while you're having you know,
Speaker 1: chocolate cake. You can do all these different things to
Speaker 1: flect your might, take out constant ceremony. And so he really,
Speaker 1: you know, was one of the best foreign policy presidents
Speaker 1: we've had, and I think got a lot of people
Speaker 1: to open their eyes and and sort of reimagine how
Speaker 1: foreign policy should look and how it should look moving forward. Yes,
Speaker 1: And like you, I was kind of raised on American interventionism,
Speaker 1: you know, and you know, sort of the Reagan years,
Speaker 1: in the George W. Bush years and so on. It
Speaker 1: was like American interventionism around the world. You know, you US,
Speaker 1: uh foreign policy is all about being world police. Um.
Speaker 1: And then we saw you know, Afghanistan obviously, um. And
Speaker 1: then we saw you know, Iraq obviously and these things
Speaker 1: imploded over time. Well, Donald Trump comes in and he's like,
Speaker 1: wait a minute, Yes, we are the most powerful nation
Speaker 1: on Earth, but we don't need to flex necessarily in
Speaker 1: such a huge way, leaving such a huge footprint. We
Speaker 1: can actually impress upon our enemies that we are the
Speaker 1: world's superpower. We are going to stand up for our
Speaker 1: interests and our allies interests, but we're gonna do it
Speaker 1: with a much smaller footprint, and we're gonna do it
Speaker 1: in a much more precise, targeted way. And one of
Speaker 1: the things that people really overlook with Donald Trump is
Speaker 1: that in lieu of sending hundreds of thousands of US
Speaker 1: troops abroad, he used the scalpel of economic sanctions. So
Speaker 1: Trump really expanded the nature of economic war against our
Speaker 1: enemies rather than you know, the blunt force of sending
Speaker 1: American troops overseas, and that that really precise kind of
Speaker 1: strategy worked a lot. I mean, you think about the
Speaker 1: um the sanctions on various entities out of Russia that
Speaker 1: he used to keep the Russians at bay, but also
Speaker 1: you think about the terrorists that were leveled against and
Speaker 1: it exactly yeah, and the threat of terroiffs against like,
Speaker 1: for example, Japan and South Korea that are real strong
Speaker 1: and allies of the United States, Lisa. But he was saying, look,
Speaker 1: if you're not going to come to the table on trade,
Speaker 1: I'm going to have to pull the trigger on this.
Speaker 1: And they all knew that he meant it, which means
Speaker 1: that they all came to the table. You know, they
Speaker 1: knew that he wasn't bssing anybody or you know, or
Speaker 1: or anything, and they did not want to call his blood.
Speaker 1: And so they all came to the table and negotiated
Speaker 1: much fairer trade deals with the United States that ended
Speaker 1: up protecting the American worker. It's gonna take a real
Speaker 1: quick break back with Monica. Alright, Monica, I know you
Speaker 1: said President Trump or just stantists are the two that
Speaker 1: you think could do the job for Republicans. Obviously Biden.
Speaker 1: It would be shocking if Biden makes it to running
Speaker 1: and twenties deteriorating and unraveling, unraveling in real time every
Speaker 1: time he goes out and gives a speech, which is rare.
Speaker 1: Uh what do you think? Who who do Democrats run?
Speaker 1: What's going to happen on the other side? For so, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I talk a lot about this on my podcast too,
Speaker 1: at Lisa, because it's a huge question. Anybody with the
Speaker 1: brain understands that Joe Biden and Kamala Harris are not
Speaker 1: gonna be on the Democratic ticket. Uh come, they're just not.
Speaker 1: Joe Biden doesn't know what plenty is on and Kamala
Speaker 1: Harris's historically the most unpopular vice president u S history,
Speaker 1: so they're not going to run either one of them.
Speaker 1: The problem for the Democrats is not necessarily Joe Biden there,
Speaker 1: they'll find a way to get rid of him. Kamala Harris,
Speaker 1: on the other hand, might be a little bit more
Speaker 1: of a challenge to get rid of her. That they're
Speaker 1: going to have to offer her a big job with
Speaker 1: a lot of money to ease her out of there,
Speaker 1: and even then she might put up a real fight,
Speaker 1: but if they make it sweet enough, she will depart
Speaker 1: the scene. But the problem is that the most devoted
Speaker 1: constituency of the Democrats is black women, so she is
Speaker 1: clearly a woman of color, and so if they're gonna
Speaker 1: dump her, they've got a challenge there because they're the
Speaker 1: party of fire, circular, circular firing squad and identity politics,
Speaker 1: so they're gonna eat themselves alive if they did her
Speaker 1: for like a white guy like Davin Newsom or something,
Speaker 1: that that's not gonna happen. So you've got to figure
Speaker 1: out and we've got to think ahead in terms of
Speaker 1: how do they square that circle, how do they solve
Speaker 1: the woman of color problem for themselves? And you know,
Speaker 1: I said the said seepack earlier this year, and the
Speaker 1: entire room of thousands of people gasped when I said it.
Speaker 1: But I think we need to deal in reality here,
Speaker 1: which is that the Democrats could solve that problem by
Speaker 1: running Michelle Obama. And if they were to run Michelle
Speaker 1: um and again, I don't know how realistic this is,
Speaker 1: but the woman is very, very political, and she has
Speaker 1: a voting rights organization right now along with Stacy Abrams.
Speaker 1: She has followed the exact path that her husband and
Speaker 1: and Bill Clinton followed to get to the presidency, which
Speaker 1: is write and autobiography, to try to preempt any kind
Speaker 1: of investigative journalism in your background, go on a big
Speaker 1: nationwide tour and the cycle before give the keynote address
Speaker 1: at the Democratic National Convention, which Michelle did las time,
Speaker 1: and people forget that. So I think, you know, it
Speaker 1: does us no favors to put our heads in the
Speaker 1: sand and protect pretend like this worst case scenario is
Speaker 1: not going to happen. I don't know whether or not
Speaker 1: she's going to run, but I think we need to
Speaker 1: to deal in that reality right now and be prepared
Speaker 1: for it so that if they do run someone weaker,
Speaker 1: we're even more prepared. But Michelle Obama is She's an icon,
Speaker 1: she is very popular, and she is immune to criticism
Speaker 1: as a former First Lady and a woman of color.
Speaker 1: So we better, we better be prepared. And I hope
Speaker 1: Donald Trump or Ron Santas any other Republican thinking about running,
Speaker 1: that they have that on their radar and they're drawing
Speaker 1: up real plans on how to counter her, because to me,
Speaker 1: she's the only one that could pose a very significant
Speaker 1: challenge to any Republican smart and soak. I mean, can
Speaker 1: you imagine the media coverage. Oh yeah, I mean they
Speaker 1: they'd be drooling over her. She'd have the entire Obama
Speaker 1: machine behind her. Well, that's concerning. I know, I'm I'm sorry, Lisa.
Speaker 1: I want to bring better news to you, But look,
Speaker 1: I mean, we can't live in denial, right If they're
Speaker 1: going to run it. We got got to start getting prepared,
Speaker 1: figuring out strategies to counter this. Um. She may not
Speaker 1: run if she doesn't run. Look, Mrs Clinton is still
Speaker 1: on the scene. She's still you know, eating alive by
Speaker 1: the idea that she never became president. She could step in.
Speaker 1: Gavin Knewsome obviously wants to run. Um. And there are
Speaker 1: others out there as well who are looking at this
Speaker 1: and and sort of drooling at the chance. And then Kamala,
Speaker 1: you know, is still a player. Um. I think if
Speaker 1: they run Kamala, you know, we could beat her by
Speaker 1: l twenty points. Um. But you know, the Democrats are
Speaker 1: very smart. Power is the only thing that matters to
Speaker 1: them so that they can leverage it to get this
Speaker 1: neo communist revolution further down the road. So they will
Speaker 1: do anything, and they will they will reempt anybody, um
Speaker 1: in order to do that. Look, this is right now,
Speaker 1: this is Obama's third term. Biden is not really the president.
Speaker 1: Barack and Michelle or the president. They're running the whole
Speaker 1: thing through Susan Rice in the White House. So if
Speaker 1: you've got Obama's third term right now, obviously they're gonna
Speaker 1: want a fourth and a fifth and they're gonna do
Speaker 1: whatever it takes to get it. How do you take
Speaker 1: on Michelle Obama. It's a big question. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: running She's a black woman running with the entire uh
Speaker 1: Democratic machine and Obama machine behind her. It would be
Speaker 1: a very difficult uphill battle. I think, Look, they can't
Speaker 1: run on policies, so we are side would absolutely have
Speaker 1: to focus on policy. But remember, the Democrats are really
Speaker 1: good at basing their appeals in emotion, and if you've
Speaker 1: got a black woman at the top of the ticket
Speaker 1: in Michelle Obama appealing to emotion, it's like a triple whammy.
Speaker 1: So we would really have to focus on delivering for
Speaker 1: the American people. I think obviously, no Democrat is going
Speaker 1: to be able to run on the Biden record, which
Speaker 1: is such a disaster um, so they're gonna have to
Speaker 1: run on Democrats would have to run on nostalgia. I
Speaker 1: said this is at Speck as well. They're gonna have
Speaker 1: to run on like an Obama restoration or if it's
Speaker 1: Mrs Clinton, you know, a Clinton restoration, Clinton Obama restoration. Whatever.
Speaker 1: They're gonna have to run on like a motion rather
Speaker 1: than the truth about their disastrous policies. So our side
Speaker 1: is going to have to try to counter that with
Speaker 1: policy rather than try to get personal because and you know,
Speaker 1: Donald Trump is the master of the personal slam, you know,
Speaker 1: Lions Head and Little Marco and the rest of it.
Speaker 1: Um he or de Santis, if he runs and gets
Speaker 1: the nomination, they're not going to be able to do
Speaker 1: that to Michelle. Can you imagine the press coverage of that.
Speaker 1: I mean, they're going to call them raging racist anyway,
Speaker 1: but if they attack Michelle in any way other than policy,
Speaker 1: it it's going to be a bonfire here. So I'm
Speaker 1: hoping that political strategists smarter than you and me, Lisa,
Speaker 1: and we're pretty good, but I'm hoping that they have
Speaker 1: their thinking caps on right now about how to go
Speaker 1: about this. Besides the last bit of news that it's
Speaker 1: no I love you, I love but love talking to you.
Speaker 1: Is there is there anything else, um, you'd like to
Speaker 1: leave us with before we go? Um? I think just
Speaker 1: the American people are waking up to the reality of
Speaker 1: what we're facing here, which is the silver lining to
Speaker 1: all of this. People are awake, not woke, and they're
Speaker 1: seeing with their own eyes that that the left really
Speaker 1: has gone too far. You know, these people are revolutionaries,
Speaker 1: and revolutionaries always overreach because they never rest, they never
Speaker 1: go on vacation, they never take a break. Revolutionaries are
Speaker 1: totally committed to their project and we'll do whatever it takes.
Speaker 1: And I think more and more Americans now understand that
Speaker 1: and they're awake to it, which is the good news.
Speaker 1: But I also want to leave anybody with what we
Speaker 1: all need to do personally to make sure that UM
Speaker 1: November works out the way we hope it will with
Speaker 1: a real red tsunami here, and that is that we
Speaker 1: all we've got to do our own due diligence in
Speaker 1: taking care of our corner of America. So I mean
Speaker 1: heading into these elections in November, which we all know
Speaker 1: how they rigged the last election. They will stop at nothing,
Speaker 1: so they always come up with new and creative ways
Speaker 1: to rig elections. So I would just encourage everybody in
Speaker 1: your own community to volunteer your services or your resources
Speaker 1: to either volunteer to be an election observer, a poll
Speaker 1: worker on election day. Now we've got election month, so
Speaker 1: to be a vote counter. If you're an attorney in
Speaker 1: your community, volunteer your legal services in case there are
Speaker 1: legal challenges. Really, I think we all need to step
Speaker 1: up here and and do this. You know, last week
Speaker 1: we saw the Arizona primaries. Lisa and I saw something
Speaker 1: on social media that I thought was great. All of
Speaker 1: these people across Arizona, everybody on our side that wants
Speaker 1: to see clean, fair elections, they created these dropbox watch
Speaker 1: parties so they like surrounded these drop boxes. They brought
Speaker 1: their lawn chairs and coolers full of beer and wine
Speaker 1: and soda and food and chips and glawc and they
Speaker 1: took shifts just watching the drop boxes to make sure
Speaker 1: that vote trafficking wasn't happening, or ballot box stuffing and
Speaker 1: that kind of thing. That's what we need to do.
Speaker 1: We need to regain that sense of community and really
Speaker 1: have each other's backs to make sure our races are clean,
Speaker 1: that we're supporting America First candidates and getting them over
Speaker 1: the finish line as President Trump is doing. But we
Speaker 1: all need to do our part. And then of course
Speaker 1: on the culture, as I say, by supporting movies, television,
Speaker 1: music that reinforce our values in order to send Hollywood
Speaker 1: and the tire Left a real message. So we can
Speaker 1: all do our part in our corner of America to
Speaker 1: make sure that we are bringing America back. I love
Speaker 1: that everyone go check out Monica's podcast, The Monica Crowley Podcast. Monica,
Speaker 1: I miss you. It's been so nice to catch up.
Speaker 1: I really hope we see each other in person soon.
Speaker 1: I know me too, Lisa, I can't wait. Thank you
Speaker 1: so much for having me today. I really appreciate it,
Speaker 1: and I will have you on my podcast very soon.
Speaker 1: I would love that. You're awesome, so so good to
Speaker 1: catch up, and I hope to see you soon. You bet.
Speaker 1: Thanks so much, Lisa. That was a great Monica Crowley.
Speaker 1: I don't know that common at the end about Michelle
Speaker 1: Obama got me so another thing to keep your eyes
Speaker 1: along with everything else. But it was so much fun
Speaker 1: to have her on the show. I love Monica, so
Speaker 1: I really appreciate her making the time. It's so smart.
Speaker 1: Choice has great insight, and you guys have great insight,
Speaker 1: and I appreciate you always tuning in listening to the
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Speaker 1: and I'm wanna thank John Cassio, my producer, always works
Speaker 1: hard to put the show together. So until next time,