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Speaker 3: The next Daily Show right now. We're all familiar with
Speaker 3: Nathan Wade, the special prosecutor on the Trump election interference case.
Speaker 3: He had to step down when it was revealed that
Speaker 3: he had a secret relationship with the District Attorney Fannie Willis.
Speaker 2: Lots of people have been wondering how they could have
Speaker 2: been so reckless with such an important trial. So we
Speaker 2: had our friend Marlon Waya and send his friend Kwan
Speaker 2: to sit down with Nathan Wade and figure out just
Speaker 2: what the hell he was thinking.
Speaker 5: Yo, what's up? Welcome to chopping it up with Kwan.
Speaker 5: This is me, you know, saying, I'm a real given
Speaker 5: the real questions that the real people want to know. Day,
Speaker 5: I got my man, Nathan Wade looking smooth. What was
Speaker 5: your first thought when you had the affair with Fani
Speaker 5: come public between you and her.
Speaker 1: I don't label it an affair, white s or d
Speaker 1: a Willis is a respectable mother, a brilliant legal mind.
Speaker 1: We spent countless hours preparing this case, investigating.
Speaker 6: This I see, I happened countless hours and I need
Speaker 6: a foot rub and you know what I mean, your
Speaker 6: foot here, let me give you massage and all of
Speaker 6: a sudden, pump me up on this desk.
Speaker 7: Man, No, not liked it?
Speaker 5: You or you liked it?
Speaker 1: Well, that's a great question, right, So during the course
Speaker 1: of the investigation, we would meet early mornings, weekends, spend
Speaker 1: full days.
Speaker 7: How can you not hit that?
Speaker 6: So we're spending that much time to get we were
Speaker 6: doing everything we might as well well.
Speaker 1: In terms of workplace romantics, how many places have you worked?
Speaker 5: I probably worked like three or four places, and everywhere
Speaker 5: I went it was a messing. Well, you know, so
Speaker 5: she a boss, So you on that and decent proponents,
Speaker 5: you on that to give me what's that white girl
Speaker 5: name that married to the dude from die Hard?
Speaker 1: So that's a common misconception. Disclosure on that disclosure ship. No,
Speaker 1: that's a common misconception. She's not my boss. She's never
Speaker 1: been my boss, too, right, she ain't he to you? No,
Speaker 1: I was a contract attorney. She's more analogous to a
Speaker 1: client to me, so saying she was a client, Yes,
Speaker 1: you served her wealth I did. I did my job,
Speaker 1: and let's talk about some of the successes I did
Speaker 1: while I was.
Speaker 8: I think we talked the job.
Speaker 1: Now we we didn't. We're talking about securing an indictment,
Speaker 1: talking about getting people to interplease.
Speaker 5: Inter please.
Speaker 9: In the police.
Speaker 1: We're talking about other jurisdictions even following suit.
Speaker 5: So let me ask you. When old girl was like, hey, babe,
Speaker 5: you want to be in charge of this prosecution of
Speaker 5: the president of the United States who did this insurrection?
Speaker 5: Did you think like this could get messy? Or you
Speaker 5: was like, nah, I'll be all right.
Speaker 1: We did not have that type of relationship at the
Speaker 1: at the outset and we were interviewing other people for
Speaker 1: the position.
Speaker 4: Was it was only the position?
Speaker 9: Did that position.
Speaker 5: Or did death position look like this?
Speaker 7: So No.
Speaker 5: Afterway resigned as special prosecutor, Trump's law dogs still tried
Speaker 5: to use their relationship to get the case strown out.
Speaker 5: They compelled his ass to testify and grilled this hall.
Speaker 8: Did you go to a cabin with miss Willis?
Speaker 9: Ever?
Speaker 5: Both the homie had answers.
Speaker 4: Ever, Ever, now he's the booking and cabin I book
Speaker 4: lots of candeis my question?
Speaker 9: Booking all these captains?
Speaker 5: So so, how many district attorneys you be smashing in
Speaker 5: the cabins?
Speaker 1: Zero?
Speaker 5: Is it Airbnb or verbal? Will you be getting all
Speaker 5: these cabins from? That's what my people want to know.
Speaker 5: Where do I get them?
Speaker 8: Alright? Alright?
Speaker 5: So some people saying this ordeal might have ruined the
Speaker 5: best chance to hold Trump accountable for trying to end democracy? Now,
Speaker 5: what would you say to all the haters out there
Speaker 5: who can't get laid.
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know what the haters are thinking, but
Speaker 1: what I will say is, under my leadership, we successfully
Speaker 1: secured a valid legal indictment, the charging document.
Speaker 7: All right, young.
Speaker 5: Black men need a roll mod what's your advice the
Speaker 5: kids in the hood that's out there that want to
Speaker 5: grow up and have they dick potentially in democracy?
Speaker 7: That's some lethal shitting dass leap we're talking, we're talking about.
Speaker 1: I don't know that I have advice for any young
Speaker 1: black men to have workplace romances. What I do have
Speaker 1: advice for your black men, It's simply this, you can
Speaker 1: do whatever you put your mind to. I am a
Speaker 1: black father, was a black husband. I took care of
Speaker 1: my family. I took care of my children. My children
Speaker 1: are young adults. Now black fathers are positive, and I
Speaker 1: take pride in being a black man.
Speaker 5: That's a T shirt. I'm gonna put that shit on
Speaker 5: a T shirt, showing them on the corner at the
Speaker 5: Hall of You know what the mother you make. You
Speaker 5: seem like a free spirited man. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: How many Didney parties? You want to.
Speaker 8: Nothing?
Speaker 1: How many did you go to?
Speaker 7: I went to several, but I left early. Just ain't
Speaker 7: about me. I want to thank you for sitting down with.
Speaker 5: Me and answering the real questions for me and my people,
Speaker 5: all the hundreds or possibly billions of cowd fans out there,
Speaker 5: It's been a pleasure. So I appreciate you. My man,
Speaker 5: for real, he hit it, He hit it, He did it.
Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Daily Show. My guest tonight is
Speaker 2: a conservative attorney who may be Donald Trump's biggest critic.
Speaker 2: Please welcome mister George Conway, standing ovation, standing ovation.
Speaker 8: You are that hero.
Speaker 9: In many ways, you are that Trump.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, man, Look, your bona fide is impeccable. Harvard Yale,
Speaker 2: you arguing in the Supreme Court more importantly half Asian.
Speaker 2: There you go, alright, so I don't waste anyone's time.
Speaker 2: I really want to pick your brains with this, base
Speaker 2: on your expert legal opinion, this current Trump case, with
Speaker 2: this guilty verdict. What does this mean going forward? Is
Speaker 2: this going to hold out?
Speaker 9: He's a criminal?
Speaker 2: He's a criminal for sure.
Speaker 9: But I'm I'm thirty four. But isn't this up for appeal?
Speaker 8: Is gonna take It's not gonna be appealed this year?
Speaker 8: I mean it will. The appeal will start this year.
Speaker 8: It can't start until after he's sentenced on July eleventh.
Speaker 9: Mark your calendar.
Speaker 8: And what are the chances of the you know, the
Speaker 8: I don't think they really have much on appeal.
Speaker 9: I don't.
Speaker 8: I mean, I sat through a good chunk of the trial.
Speaker 8: I followed the issues. I don't think I mean the.
Speaker 2: Main the main counter argument is that against this conviction.
Speaker 2: Is that correct me if I'm wrong?
Speaker 9: Please?
Speaker 2: Is that the the New York State does not have
Speaker 2: jurisdiction over a federal matter.
Speaker 8: No, that's that's that's a bogus argument, because what what
Speaker 8: what happens is that there's there are two levels of
Speaker 8: falsifying classified documents that you can be convicted for. One
Speaker 8: is a misdemeanor, which is second degree, and one is
Speaker 8: a felony with first degree.
Speaker 9: And to kick from second degree up to first degree.
Speaker 8: You have to commit some you have to have the
Speaker 8: intent to conceal or commit some other offense, and that
Speaker 8: offense was actually a state law offense. The state law
Speaker 8: offense is conspiring to influence an election by unlawful means,
Speaker 8: and the unlawful means can be violations of federal law
Speaker 8: or violations of state law. And there's really no question
Speaker 8: about that. And the jury, you know, I mean, the
Speaker 8: jury was really fast. I mean, it wasn't really it
Speaker 8: wasn't a hard case at the end of the day.
Speaker 2: So you don't feel that you feel it's pretty open
Speaker 2: and shut.
Speaker 9: Yeah, No, I thought it was open.
Speaker 8: Sure, the verdict came in and I thought, you know, frankly,
Speaker 8: I thought a lot of the television covered was misleading.
Speaker 8: You know, I think there's this tendency to make everything
Speaker 8: a horse race and make everything exciting. But the fact
Speaker 8: of the matter is, I mean, the case was strong
Speaker 8: from the beginning, and.
Speaker 9: The prosecution.
Speaker 8: Actually executed perfectly and the defense kind of was a
Speaker 8: little messed up because they.
Speaker 9: Have a problem.
Speaker 2: And pray, tell, what might that be?
Speaker 8: The problem is they have some lunatic telling them what
Speaker 8: to do and not all.
Speaker 2: Wait, who are you referring to.
Speaker 8: There's this guy who was sitting there every day, kind
Speaker 8: of orangey, and often he'd wake up and make a suggestion.
Speaker 8: It was not These were not good suggestions, and he
Speaker 8: doesn't really know what he's doing.
Speaker 9: He thinks he does.
Speaker 2: Well. The reason I like talking to you about the
Speaker 2: legal cases because you have a conservative background, so and
Speaker 2: not not just that, but I always feel like you
Speaker 2: seem from from what I've heard and read from you,
Speaker 2: you always seem to have a pretty balanced, reasonable view
Speaker 2: on this and that's why when you discuss these cases,
Speaker 2: you always discuss it from a very legal and legal perview,
Speaker 2: and you're trying to be about this stuff. So when
Speaker 2: you say that he this is really open and shut.
Speaker 2: I kind of trust your opinion more than most people
Speaker 2: because I feel like you nongly understand law, but you
Speaker 2: come from that jury agree, right, So there's that. Okay, Well,
Speaker 2: so that's one of the cases, and there's a few
Speaker 2: other cases. I mean, those other cases. I know, most
Speaker 2: of them probably not gonna We're not even going to
Speaker 2: hear about them before the election.
Speaker 9: Probably not.
Speaker 8: Although there's an outside shot that the January sixth case
Speaker 8: that's brought has been brought by the US Department of
Speaker 8: Justice in the district, there's an outside chance that trial
Speaker 8: could start in September or October. I wouldn't necessarily put
Speaker 8: a lot of money on it, but it's possible. It
Speaker 8: really depends on what the Supreme Court does in the
Speaker 8: next couple of weeks.
Speaker 2: Well, for that case, what's your analysis on that one?
Speaker 2: Is that open shut?
Speaker 8: Or is that I think it's I think it's pretty
Speaker 8: pretty strong. I mean, you just the charges that are
Speaker 8: are are in that case involved obstruction of an official
Speaker 8: proceeding and and uh heat obviously tried to instruct the
Speaker 8: obstructive official proceeding by corrupt means, by, among other things,
Speaker 8: you know, intimidating the vice president. Also by you know,
Speaker 8: submitting these fake electoral certificates that that said that he
Speaker 8: you know, was entitled to electoral votes in states where
Speaker 8: he lost the election.
Speaker 2: Okay, shore, So then what's the other what what what's
Speaker 2: he gonna argue? What's that what's the counter argument.
Speaker 8: All this, Oh, I was just validly contesting an election.
Speaker 9: It was my right to do that. I don't see.
Speaker 8: I don't really see what the what the what the
Speaker 8: substance of defense is there?
Speaker 9: Either, he doesn't really have one. And the one in
Speaker 9: the case.
Speaker 8: Where he's really really dead to rights is the one
Speaker 8: in Florida.
Speaker 2: Which is the just for those of us who are
Speaker 2: incapable of following this main legal cases, this is the
Speaker 2: one case.
Speaker 9: This is which was this was this one.
Speaker 8: This is the one where he stole the classified documents
Speaker 8: like many many boxes. He took them to Florida. The
Speaker 8: government nicely asked for them back. He said, no, these
Speaker 8: are my these are my things. He's like a five
Speaker 8: year old. And and then they subpoenaed him for the
Speaker 8: documents and he said, oh, here are some of the
Speaker 8: documents back. And then he had his lawyers lie about
Speaker 8: the fact that he hadn't given all the documents back,
Speaker 8: and then he moved the documents around to hide them
Speaker 8: from the FBI, and finally the FBI had to execute
Speaker 8: a search warrant and take all the documents away from him.
Speaker 8: And that's basically it's like it's like a drug bust case.
Speaker 8: I mean, it's like somebody's running a meth factory and
Speaker 8: they come in and there's all the math, right, so you.
Speaker 2: Know, but in other words, that's that should be open and.
Speaker 8: Sho should be that he should that case should have
Speaker 8: been tried already, and the charges in that case a
Speaker 8: lot of the chargers got ten years.
Speaker 9: In jail, but you should that he should be in
Speaker 9: jail off of that all.
Speaker 8: Okay, But but yeah, always a buck but what but
Speaker 8: that's probably not going to Yeah, they have a problem.
Speaker 8: He got lucky. He drew this judge who I mean
Speaker 8: to put it charter, He doesn't really know what she's doing.
Speaker 8: It seems to be favoring him.
Speaker 9: Sure, And she's made.
Speaker 8: A mess of the proceedings and it's continuing to make
Speaker 8: a mess of the proceedings. And I think that what's
Speaker 8: going to happen at some point is going to is
Speaker 8: if she does one more thing that's insane, and she's
Speaker 8: been reversed by the Court of Appeals in Atlanta twice
Speaker 8: on very harsh grounds. Frankly, if she makes one more
Speaker 8: big mistake, I think there's a chance that they can
Speaker 8: get her thrown off the case. But there's no way
Speaker 8: this case is going to get tried this year. I mean, look,
Speaker 8: the bottom line is, and this is always going to
Speaker 8: be true. The way that Donald Trump is going to
Speaker 8: get beaten is at the ballot box.
Speaker 9: And I'm pretty confident he will be and you your
Speaker 9: confident you will be.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean, well, I mean that you know, I'm thank
Speaker 2: you for optimism. I'm a little but you know, speaking
Speaker 2: of breaking at the ballot box. I mean, the other
Speaker 2: thing that's fascinating I think about your political journey is
Speaker 2: that you come from that world, you bona fides. I'm
Speaker 2: sorry you don't come from that world, but you'll get
Speaker 2: the one's got a little messy right now. You you know,
Speaker 2: bona fide conservative, Republican. I think you worked on the
Speaker 2: case against Bill Clinton, and you've been Republican most of
Speaker 2: your adult life, that's fair to say.
Speaker 8: In fact, you know the time I was from for
Speaker 8: a time I first voted in college.
Speaker 2: In fact, you celebrate when he won the first election.
Speaker 2: There's documentation of you celebrating, and you will.
Speaker 9: Himself some reasons, for some reason, he knows how to
Speaker 9: hurt a guy.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know, right, but I mean to me,
Speaker 2: that gives even more credibility to what you're saying, you
Speaker 2: a way, because you're from there and you've seen it.
Speaker 2: And so what I guess the question is, when we
Speaker 2: go back to the ballot box, what would you say
Speaker 2: to other conservative people to convince them that, hey, like,
Speaker 2: maybe that's conservatives there who are like, Look, I don't
Speaker 2: care what he says. He's good for the you know
Speaker 2: my tax reasons, he's good for business, he's tough. You
Speaker 2: know what, what is your argument against that?
Speaker 9: Look?
Speaker 8: I mean, I think there is a large off of
Speaker 8: Republican Trump supporters who are beyond who are beyond persuasion,
Speaker 8: and I think we kind of have to accept that.
Speaker 9: I do think.
Speaker 8: There are a number of there's a large percentage of
Speaker 8: people who are uncomfortable with Trump, and especially uncomfortable with
Speaker 8: his attempt to overthrow the government of the United States
Speaker 8: and the constitution of the United States.
Speaker 9: Stuff like that, you know.
Speaker 8: I mean, you know, we once believed in law and order,
Speaker 8: and now we have this party that's devoted to lying
Speaker 8: for a criminal, and you know, I think there are
Speaker 8: a lot of Republicans who have, you know, deep concerns
Speaker 8: about that, as they should and I think those concerns
Speaker 8: are going to come to the fore more as we
Speaker 8: focus on Donald Trump more as people are reminded of
Speaker 8: the things that he has done, the fact that he
Speaker 8: is now a convicted felon, that he is an adjudicated rapist,
Speaker 8: that he attempted to overthlow the Constitution of the United States,
Speaker 8: and that he's just downright nuts.
Speaker 9: And I think that and I think one of the
Speaker 9: odd things.
Speaker 8: About this trial is there's a lot of suggestion by
Speaker 8: Republicans that, oh, this trial helps him because it just
Speaker 8: binds him closer to his base because of the convictions
Speaker 8: and how he's being persecuted. And there is some truth
Speaker 8: to that. But the thing that is, he he was
Speaker 8: advantaged by the trial in the sense that it took
Speaker 8: him off the radar screen.
Speaker 9: He has been.
Speaker 8: Advantaged over the last three years since January sixth, because
Speaker 8: we've seen less of him. But we're going to see
Speaker 8: more of him. Like he was a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 8: I don't know how many of you people saw this,
Speaker 8: but he was in Wildwood, New Jersey, talking about what
Speaker 8: a great guy Hannibal Lecter was.
Speaker 2: And you know, so you'll say, you'll say this saying
Speaker 2: the more we.
Speaker 8: See him, because remember during coronavirus, they were having these
Speaker 8: four to three four o'clock press conferences every day, and
Speaker 8: they got crazier and crazier, and finally, you know, people
Speaker 8: in the White House said we got to take them off,
Speaker 8: and that's you know, they're not going to be able
Speaker 8: to do that.
Speaker 2: Sure, well, you're giving You're trying to give us reasons
Speaker 2: for optimism, which I appreciate because I need some reasons
Speaker 2: for optimism because anti number. But but I do want
Speaker 2: to know, like, what would you say to what is
Speaker 2: the argument too, because we're kind of preaching to acquire
Speaker 2: here a little bit. You know, we all know I
Speaker 2: think of a watching this. We appreciate you know, the
Speaker 2: algorithm has directed us to you because we all kind
Speaker 2: of think this guy's nuts, regardless of your actual political books.
Speaker 9: I got to actually say it. We we have not.
Speaker 8: Had a full national conversation about this man's psychological condition.
Speaker 9: He have we not.
Speaker 2: I feel like I've been talking about every.
Speaker 8: Single days the mainstream we say, oh, he's.
Speaker 9: Nuts, he's nuts.
Speaker 8: He's literally if you look up look him up in
Speaker 8: the in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual Mental disorders.
Speaker 9: Five, he's a narcissistic sociopath. He isn't. He has a
Speaker 9: narcissistic personality disorder and.
Speaker 2: He has YE.
Speaker 8: And what needs to be done is that needs to
Speaker 8: be talked about openly. You need he needs to be
Speaker 8: pointed out when he is doing things that meet those criteria,
Speaker 8: and it's got to be pointed out.
Speaker 9: And it drives him nuts when people do that.
Speaker 8: And that's the other thing is what you could do
Speaker 8: is you can have the cycle where you drive him
Speaker 8: nuts by saying he's crazy.
Speaker 9: He acts nuts.
Speaker 8: Then you have more video and say look at how
Speaker 8: nuts he is. And that's what has to be done.
Speaker 8: The other thing that I would recommend to liberals is.
Speaker 9: Don't get mad.
Speaker 8: The people who support Trump like when liberals get mad,
Speaker 8: that's why they like Trump. He makes all these people,
Speaker 8: these these these snotty liberals mad. It's like, make fun
Speaker 8: of him. Don't don't don't let this you can. You
Speaker 8: can make fun of him and mock him, you know
Speaker 8: the way. You know, I mean, this is what this
Speaker 8: is what the.
Speaker 2: Kind of you're kind of addressing, right.
Speaker 8: Know, you guys, you all play an important role Kimmel
Speaker 8: at the oscars.
Speaker 9: But played and plays an important role. Laugh at him. Now,
Speaker 9: that doesn't mean.
Speaker 8: You don't appreciate the seriousness of what would happen to
Speaker 8: this country, which is the other message to the rich
Speaker 8: people who want it, who want their taxes cut.
Speaker 9: It's like, if this.
Speaker 8: Guy's elected president, we're going to have civil disorder like
Speaker 8: you've never seen because he's going to try to violate
Speaker 8: every law and people are going to start objecting. You're
Speaker 8: going to see people on the streets, and what that's
Speaker 8: going to do to the economy is not great. You're
Speaker 8: going to see capital flow, both human and financial, like
Speaker 8: you've never seen from the United States before. And so
Speaker 8: all of these reasons, I think I think we're going
Speaker 8: to be able to explore this between now and November,
Speaker 8: and I think that's the reason why ultimately I think
Speaker 8: common sense.
Speaker 9: Will prevail and this guy will win.
Speaker 8: But the problem will still be there will be five
Speaker 8: sixty seventy eighty million people who will vote for the guy,
Speaker 8: and we still have to live with those people and
Speaker 8: we're going to have to deprogram them at some point.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, as always, thank you for analysis.
Speaker 9: Thank you Intelli.
Speaker 2: The reasonable person appreciate it, he said.
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