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Speaker 2: uh that's been going on lately, and of course Karen

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Speaker 2: and I are here to give you the breakdown and

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Speaker 2: uh to talk about the things that we want to

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Speaker 2: what we should start. We haven't done this in a

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Speaker 1: Do you wanna funk? Do you wanna vunk? Won't you

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Speaker 2: All right, all right, So now it's getting the horrible

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Speaker 2: news about the LGBTQ community.

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Speaker 3: Okay, we've all had our fun.

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Speaker 2: We all know it's downhill from here because the world

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Speaker 2: just does not know how to treat uh everybody.

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Speaker 3: They don't know how to treat people that are LGBTQ.

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Speaker 2: South Korean Army, for example, they have reportedly used dating

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Speaker 2: The South Korean Army is a poorly using dating apps

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Speaker 2: to outgate soldiers. According to Courts, activists group Military Human

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Speaker 2: As Courts knows, it is illegal for soldiers to engage

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Speaker 2: Courts published screenshots of text released by Military Human Rights

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Speaker 2: While many of us feel like things are settled, and shit,

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Speaker 2: I don't know what happens under Trump with the military.

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Speaker 2: lot of these rules. But yeah, you know, it's easy

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Speaker 2: That's that's scary because you know, they're not looking for

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Speaker 2: people having affairs, right, which is probably also illegal in

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Speaker 2: not looking for certain shit. Here's from the Daily Got

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Speaker 2: marriage looks good on LGBTQ couple, study says lgbtwo. LGBTQ

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Speaker 2: activists have been championing gay marriage for years and for

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Speaker 2: a good reason. The University of Washington School a social

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Speaker 2: hundred marriage same sex couples experience i range of benefits

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Speaker 2: The study, called the Aging with Pride National Health Agent

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Speaker 2: senior citizen respondence. Approximately twenty five percent of respondents were married,

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Speaker 2: twenty five percent in long term relationships, and approximately fifty

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Speaker 2: one person quote unquote, I can see how it would

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Speaker 3: Perspective perhaps, or.

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Speaker 2: Uh, you know, the benefits of two incomes, the benefits

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Speaker 3: Like, I can see how that would happen.

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Speaker 2: Or just the people that aren't married might you know,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And a lot of times when they take these

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Speaker 5: really considering merit people that are married that aren't happy

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Speaker 5: and people that are singles that aren't happy, Like, those

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Speaker 5: are factors that you know, they need to do when

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Speaker 5: they do these studies. In my opinion, you know, because

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Speaker 5: like you said, it's kind of scowed. It's like, hey,

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Speaker 4: Life must not be shitting like nah, it's a lot

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Speaker 4: of people that aren't married.

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Speaker 5: Then was like, thank God, I'm not married and I

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Speaker 5: don't want to get married again.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 2: By comparison, single elderly lgbtqres, we're more likely to have

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Speaker 2: lower psychological and social support, and their overall environmental conditions

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Speaker 3: I can't remember. Yeah, social security tax assumptions.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it makes me feel good to be like,

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm glad they remind you that you have

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Speaker 3: First I thought I thought, I think it is.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and people was like, they fucking I need to

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Speaker 4: The gay people. It was like, look, why this where

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Speaker 2: A New York City resident is battling the makers of Grinder,

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Speaker 4: How did that happen?

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Speaker 2: For the last five months has been here, sixteen people

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Speaker 2: Matthew Herrick. According to a complaint fil Wednesday by the

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, that's a problem. Yeah, that's what I'm basically

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I would have a problem.

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Speaker 5: I would sue that person answered them too. Yeah, and

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Speaker 2: Fuck you aggressively demanding sects too that scenes show.

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Speaker 5: With a dick in the hand going I can't to

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Speaker 3: I came in with my dick in my hand.

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Speaker 4: Really are my dick is in my hand? Let's fuck?

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Speaker 2: I demanded some sex, allright, yeah, And I know you're

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Speaker 5: And also the thing is uh m hm and not

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Speaker 2: Now we've covered we've covered covered articles with somebody like

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Speaker 2: But yeah, there's some fucking psychos out there that would

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Speaker 3: But yeah, it's very scary what people can do.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I'm glad nothing actually happened.

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Speaker 3: Hopefully nothing.

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Speaker 5: Actually, no dude actually showed up and was like, fucking

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Speaker 3: It right, So yeah, I see them too. Fu you. Yep,

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Speaker 2: My tire life has been stolen from me. My privacy

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Speaker 3: Magazine, it's a living hell.

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Speaker 2: Besides sharing photos and details about Herricks, some profiles reportedly

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Speaker 3: Fantasy or rope like oh there you go.

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Speaker 2: Hurricane's lawyers say Grinder shares some of the blame for

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Speaker 2: If the manufacturer and seller know that the battery could explode,

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Speaker 2: there's a duty to inform users of that risk attorney

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Speaker 2: and tour Echlin are representing the part time actor and model,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, because a lot of it boils down to and

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Speaker 5: almost anything with Twitter. You don't have anything to filter

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Speaker 4: From doing this, like you don't stop it.

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Speaker 5: So yes, you are accountable because this is the thing

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Speaker 5: I went on there use your product, But what I

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Speaker 5: did not sign up for was to be harassed. But

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Speaker 5: I did not sign up what these fake accounts to

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Speaker 2: The Grinder does not even use even standard, widely available

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Speaker 3: Of their users and the public. The complaint reads.

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Speaker 2: In response, Daniel Waxman or Brian k LP requested the

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Speaker 2: the Grinder's motion to dismistic complaint. Besides maintaining, the Grinder

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Speaker 4: I don't believe you don't. I don't.

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Speaker 5: I really think that y'all don't do everything that you

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Speaker 5: need to do like most of them, because you don't care.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he says he sent over one hundred reports to

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Speaker 2: them for notifying to notify them a fake profiles. Yet

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Speaker 2: to be sexually decided Gobert to a wire. It's just

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Speaker 4: Correct.

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Speaker 5: You have these fucking tools and you don't have a

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Speaker 3: That's the problem too. You have these tools.

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Speaker 4: Some generic response comes.

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Speaker 4: So he did what he was supposed to do as

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Speaker 4: far as notify you. You didn't do anything.

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Speaker 5: So now you're even more accountable because your tools did

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Speaker 3: Right, All right, let's see what else happened.

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Speaker 2: Oh, Washington State judges cannot discriminate against gay parents and

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Speaker 2: custody decisions.

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Speaker 3: So that's a positive.

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Speaker 4: That is positive. But it shouldn't have been a thing

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Speaker 4: in the first place.

446
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Speaker 2: Well go ahead, Well yeah, we can call this whole

447
00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:10,440
Speaker 2: segment shouldn't have been a thing in the first place.

448
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Speaker 2: Something you never gonna we'll never get past this.

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Speaker 3: I'm just gonna be us being like, what the fuck

450
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Speaker 3: why y'all hate these gay people so much?

451
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Speaker 2: Washington State Supreme Court issued a unanimous ruling unanimous April sixth,

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Speaker 2: prohibiting judges from considering sexual orientation and customer seedings. Is

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Speaker 2: this It's decision clarifies the troubling ambiguity in the state

454
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Speaker 2: law that had previously allowed judges to favor heterosexual parents

455
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Speaker 2: over gay parents. The court emphatically closed this loophole, barring

456
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Speaker 2: judges from using pretext to inject anti gay animus into

457
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Speaker 2: custody disputes.

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Speaker 5: Right, because it is whoever the best fitting parent is,

459
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Speaker 5: you know, if you have to make.

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Speaker 3: That decision, not even best fitting.

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Speaker 2: I mean this, we're talking about stuff like taking away

462
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Speaker 2: somebody's kid. But we're also talking about stuff like sharing

463
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Speaker 2: custom and like when people fight over cussy, it gets

464
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 2: ugly and nasty, and if you know, you got to

465
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Speaker 2: judge that essentially is a bigot, whether they're hiding behind

466
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Speaker 2: religion or whatever, if you can somehow convince them that

467
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Speaker 2: part of the reason this person can't see their kid

468
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Speaker 2: is sexual deviance, and you're using being gay as the

469
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Speaker 2: litmus test for what is sexually deviant. Yeah, man, that's

470
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Speaker 2: scary as fuck, you know what I mean, or anything,

471
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Speaker 2: especially in relationships where maybe you got married and you're like, actually,

472
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Speaker 2: I'm coming out the closet. I'm uh, you know, I'm

473
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Speaker 2: LGBTQ whatever at this point and uh, you know, we

474
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Speaker 2: got together, you know whatever. But now this is where

475
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Speaker 2: I am. I don't want to be with you. We

476
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Speaker 2: have had children. I would like to see my kids

477
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Speaker 2: the same way you can see your kids. And then

478
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Speaker 2: you can go and then one of those parents can

479
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Speaker 2: go to court and be like, no, you're honored that

480
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Speaker 2: part gay. They should not be able to see their kids,

481
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Speaker 2: you know, like that that the fact that that.

482
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Speaker 3: Would be grounds like not abuse.

483
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Speaker 2: Or neglect or just the fact that person's gay, that's enough.

484
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Speaker 2: Kids should never see that, you know.

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Speaker 4: And that's when I was talking my most fit.

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Speaker 5: I didn't mean it as you know, like like you're.

487
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Speaker 4: Using it as an excuse to say that this parent

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Speaker 4: is not fit.

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Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, we agree. We agree.

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Speaker 2: In regarding marriages the marriage of Black, the case in

491
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Speaker 2: question involved a divorce opposite sex couple Rachel and Charles Black.

492
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Speaker 2: The Blacks have three children, whom they raised as conservative Christians.

493
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Speaker 2: In twenty eleven, Rachel came out as gay, moved into

494
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Speaker 2: a basement room, began date no woman.

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Speaker 3: She filed for the voce. In twenty thirteen.

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Speaker 2: A judge appointment appointed a guardian ad item, Kelly Thiriot LeBlanc,

497
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Speaker 2: who observes the Black children's and recommended custody determinations.

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Speaker 3: LeBlanc told the judge.

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Speaker 2: Rachel's lifestyle choice, I ease sexual orientation could harm the

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Speaker 2: children due to its controversy. She alsa, that's the other

501
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Speaker 2: thing they love to do, right. It's not No, I

502
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Speaker 2: don't have a problem. It's the controversy surrounding your gender

503
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Speaker 2: and your sexual orientation. It's really it's not. I mean,

504
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Speaker 2: it's not about you. We don't have a problem.

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Speaker 3: You can do what you want.

506
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Speaker 2: You have grown the dough, but the children, you know,

507
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Speaker 2: the controversy that they will experience.

508
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 3: It's too controversial, that's what we're saying.

509
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Speaker 2: She also asserted that Rachel was on campaign to reindoctrinate

510
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Speaker 2: the children and that her orientation will cause her children

511
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:34,680
Speaker 2: to be bullied. LeBlanc concluded that Rachel's relationship with a

512
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,640
Speaker 2: woman will injure the children due to their strict religious upbringing.

513
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,679
Speaker 2: She recommended that Charles received primary custody and that Rachel

514
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 2: be forbidden from having further conversations with the children garding religious, homosexuality,

515
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Speaker 2: or other alternative lifestyle concepts, and further that she be

516
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Speaker 2: prohibited from exposing the children to literature or electronic media,

517
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Speaker 2: talking to them, taking into movies or events, providing them

518
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Speaker 2: with somebolic clothing or jury, or otherwise engaging in conduct

519
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Speaker 2: that could reasonably be interpreted as being related to those topics.

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Speaker 3: So she can't even take her kids to a movie,

521
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Speaker 3: h course, if they would have got their way right.

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Speaker 5: Basically, it's just a way too and the other parents

523
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Speaker 5: basically from having any contract.

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Speaker 2: What if you take them to the sea moonlight, we

525
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 2: can't have that. Kids might walk out knowing this another

526
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Speaker 2: way to live your life. I've never understood that anyway,

527
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,920
Speaker 2: Like people are so afraid for children to learn, children.

528
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Speaker 4: No more than you.

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Speaker 5: A lot of times you not you funny? A lot

530
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Speaker 5: of times did parents are the fucking problem? The kids

531
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Speaker 5: are okay? Like, the kids are fine, they got u

532
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 5: schoolmaids and shit like that, Like they don't have a

533
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:37,639
Speaker 5: problem with it if the parents is in the fucking

534
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 5: panic most of the time.

535
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and that fear you pass on to the children.

536
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Speaker 3: Mm hmmm, stupid anyway, that shit done.

537
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Speaker 2: But I'm glad that the judges was like unanimously like

538
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:49,360
Speaker 2: this is some fun shit.

539
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Uh, there's always one when you come to that bullshit

541
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Speaker 5: always won.

542
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we kind of mentioned it already, but Texas and

543
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 2: North Carolina are trying to make bill where you cannot

544
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Speaker 2: have same sex marriage.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 2: I can't even feel like, at least under up administration,

547
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Speaker 2: it's like there was a level where you're like and

548
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 2: it'll be struck down when it gets to the Supreme Court.

549
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Speaker 3: I don't know why the fuck y'all keep challenging this

550
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:22,640
Speaker 3: bullshit now.

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00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't know, you know, like we I

552
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Speaker 2: know that, Like I think they confirm the at Garland already,

553
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Speaker 2: so like m.

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Speaker 5: When they passed that as rule when it was a

555
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:36,920
Speaker 5: minority yeah, yeah, so they didn't want them filibustering, which

556
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Speaker 5: is what y'all fucking did. Y'all fill the busting, so

557
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:40,719
Speaker 5: goddamn wrong when the person passed.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Just I don't know, man, just uh sucks, That's what

560
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Speaker 2: I'm saying. And I don't know what will happen. I mean,

561
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Speaker 2: I hope the court strikes it down lower so they

562
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Speaker 2: can't go to the Supreme Court. But I just worried

563
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Speaker 2: that it'll get to the Supreme Court and they'll they'll

564
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Speaker 2: possibly hear it and try to undo.

565
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

566
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:07,720
Speaker 2: And there's so many people's lives that hang in the balance,

567
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 2: like they don't even think about this shit. You have

568
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 2: people with kids, people that are married, people's insurance, people's jobs, housing,

569
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 2: it's just all an academic concept that so many people

570
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 2: that aren't, you know, living under the idea that this

571
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Speaker 2: can happen to me any moment.

572
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Speaker 3: I really empathize and feel so bad for people. Man,

573
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Speaker 3: I can't believe people. You know, I haven't lived under this.

574
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Speaker 2: I mean I understand as a black person that like, well, yeah,

575
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 2: we live under shit too, and I get it, but

576
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 2: this shit is like it's just so fucked up, like

577
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 2: in some ways, I just I literally cannot fathom some

578
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 2: of this shit happening to me because I have taken

579
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 2: it for granted, because it's a privilege that is a

580
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 2: right to me as far as I'm like, for me,

581
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 2: it has been a right, Like I will get married,

582
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Speaker 2: I can be on my life and assurance, I can

583
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Speaker 2: go see her in the hospital. If we have children,

584
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 2: they're both of our children. If we go to court

585
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 2: about the children, we can fight because we will be

586
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 2: seen as the rightful guardians of those kids.

587
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Speaker 3: And and all that shit.

588
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 2: People would just throw it up and throw it up

589
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,719
Speaker 2: just on a whim, just to be a hateful ass bige.

590
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 2: That's why you would do it right.

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00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 5: And then over nine you can basically rock people's whole worlds.

592
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 4: And then you have the whole country going in the.

593
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 5: Fucking panic trying to get it straight and get it clean.

594
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 5: It takes months, possibly years to get the situation together.

595
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, we keep an eye on this shit, but

596
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 2: you don't have to actually like, we don't actually have

597
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 2: to keep an eye on it on some like because

598
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 2: it's survival we keep a eye on it because we

599
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 2: care about this in the news, and we care about

600
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 2: you know, people that are affected by this. But it's

601
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Speaker 2: not the same as literally it could be me, which

602
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 2: so I can't even Yeah, I understand the rage, man,

603
00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 2: because it is sometimes I read this shit and it's

604
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 2: just so fucking frustrated, right, and it's.

605
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 5: So fucked up, And it's one of these things where

606
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 5: he passes laws and you don't really think about how

607
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 5: it's gonna be implemented, how it's gonna be executed, how

608
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 5: is everybody gonna go by it?

609
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 3: What happened?

610
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 5: If you have some people some states that are like,

611
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 5: fuck you, if you stay here, you can still be married.

612
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 5: Fuck y'all law like like you know, like you're not

613
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 5: re even considering any you know of that whatsoever. Go, No,

614
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 5: we care about our citizens, we know, y'all, don't we do.

615
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 5: Like it's so constant fighting in the states and all

616
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 5: that shit, But why you're doing that if you live

617
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 5: in a state where they just stripping immediately, you don't

618
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 5: get that shit back, right.

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Speaker 2: So, yes, that's wild, And here's something kind of good news.

620
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Speaker 2: I think we need more stuff like this. The entire

621
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Speaker 2: faculty senate at Gordon College resigned last week in solidarity

622
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Speaker 2: with a professor who said she was denied a.

623
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Speaker 3: Promotion for supporting marriage quality.

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Speaker 2: Gordon College is an Evangelical Christian liberal arts college in Wyndham, Massachusetts,

625
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Speaker 2: north of Boston. The college has a long standing stance

626
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Speaker 2: against LGBTQ rights in same sex marriage. In twenty fourteen,

627
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 2: Gordon College President Michael Lindsay wrote a letter to President

628
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Speaker 2: Obama asking for religious exemption clause in an executive order

629
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Speaker 2: to ban organizations from signings federal contracts if they discriminate

630
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Speaker 2: against LGBTQ employees. Gordon College's website includes a non discrimination policy,

631
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Speaker 2: from which sexual orientation and gender identity are conspicuously absence.

632
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Speaker 2: The college's list of behavioral standards for BIZ the following

633
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Speaker 2: those words and actions which are especially forbidding in scripture,

634
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 2: including but not limited to blasphemy, profanity. Now you know

635
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Speaker 2: they ain't kicking nobody out for cussing fuck out here,

636
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 2: just hotnest the theft, drunkenness, sexual relations outside of marriage,

637
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Speaker 2: and homosexual.

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00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 3: Practice will not be tolerated in the lives.

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Speaker 2: Of Gordon community members, either on or off campus. In

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Speaker 2: other words, the college for biz queer students and faculty members,

641
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 2: even if they don't mention the sexuality on campus. Margaret

642
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 2: Deuise Boyd, and assistant professor of sociology at Gordon College,

643
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 2: was an outspoken critic of the school's opposition.

644
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Speaker 3: To LGBTQ rights.

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00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 2: As a result, she claims the college president and provosts

646
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Speaker 2: denied her promotion. Deuise Boyd says she was spoken against.

647
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 2: She had spoken against the band at a faculty meeting,

648
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 2: signed a petition opposident, organized trainings and events related to

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Speaker 2: gay rights, and directly addressed Gordon's president, D. Michael Lindsay

650
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Speaker 2: about the school's stance. In February, Lindsay and the provosts

651
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 2: denied Deuise's Boy's promotion, overriding the unanimous recommendation of the

652
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Speaker 2: faculty Senate.

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Speaker 3: According to the professor's complaint.

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Speaker 2: On Wednesday, all seven members of Gordon College's faculty Senate

655
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Speaker 2: announced they were resigning. First of all, two things, isn't

656
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Speaker 2: it funny how they welcomed the scent and arguments and

657
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 2: ideas and then they're like, but no, no, not yours.

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Speaker 3: Those are ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: And then two, uh, props to all the people that

660
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Speaker 2: was like, well, fuck it, we all out. I mean,

661
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 2: those are jobs, those are checks, those are real people's

662
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 2: lives to like as much as you know. At times,

663
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 2: I feel like really disheartened sometimes with the way that

664
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 2: people can be like I'm Christian and I believe in this,

665
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:21,400
Speaker 2: this and this, and then when something happens, they're.

666
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:23,799
Speaker 3: Like, mmm, I don't know about that shit.

667
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 2: You know, like I'm gonna let it slide, you know,

668
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:27,799
Speaker 2: pastor got some crazy shit to say. I just be

669
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 2: tripping sometimes, Yo, this is some real shit when you're like, yo,

670
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 2: my convictions mean if you if you won't promote this person,

671
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 2: then how the fuck am I supposed to sit up

672
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 2: here and act like this is a righteous institution come

673
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:43,839
Speaker 2: through right that?

674
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 5: And all that does is just senior and university and

675
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:50,839
Speaker 5: the chaos, because that's a lot of people probably with

676
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:52,799
Speaker 5: years of experience, a lot of them got t here

677
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:54,720
Speaker 5: that you fucking just have to replace.

678
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 3: Your school's gonna be in chaos.

679
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 5: And if I'm a student, I'm not taking my ass

680
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 5: to that school. And if I'm croning death, I'm transferring

681
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 5: the fuck out of there because you're showing me that

682
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:04,279
Speaker 5: you're not organized.

683
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:09,400
Speaker 3: Right, So yeah, dope.

684
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 2: You know, I appreciate people standing by for somebody and

685
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 2: standing up for their principles too.

686
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 5: Make them suffer because you know what, people ain't gonna

687
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 5: be given like you know, you you for colleges, they

688
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 5: live off alumni, so you know, all of a sudden,

689
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,240
Speaker 5: alumni going, y'all got y'all shut together?

690
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:33,760
Speaker 3: Right? So anyway, I think it was dope, m yep.

691
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 2: Alabama State Alabama Senate voted to let an anti gay

692
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 2: megachurch create its own police force.

693
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,280
Speaker 3: Because that's the thing we need. Oh guns.

694
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 2: Bill SB one ninety three was introduced by Senator Jabot Wagoner,

695
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 2: who told NPR was their decision and if they wanted

696
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:57,399
Speaker 2: to have their own police force, you know, I don't

697
00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 2: see any reason they came. It's not unusual.

698
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 3: Would y'all let a mouse Kevin police mom? Would you

699
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 3: come on?

700
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 4: Would you let them Islam have its own police force?

701
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:11,400
Speaker 3: If you don't, it not to mention.

702
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:16,359
Speaker 2: What's the difference between this shit and you know, these

703
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 2: militias and shit. I mean, if they anti gay, what's

704
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 2: the point of arming these motherfuckers? Not that they don't

705
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 2: already probably have guns, but you're arming them and allowing

706
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 2: them to organize and act. Is if they some type

707
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 2: of police No, no, it's ridiculous. Yeah, they should be

708
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 2: certified by the Alabama Police Officers Standards and Training Commission

709
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 2: and shall meet all this requirements, including continuing education. They

710
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 2: say they need police officers to keep their school as

711
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 2: well as it's more than four thousand person congregations safe

712
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:49,760
Speaker 2: from what.

713
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:52,759
Speaker 3: From who?

714
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 4: What?

715
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:54,439
Speaker 3: Right from who?

716
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 2: Critics of the bill argues that a police department that

717
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 2: reports the church officials could be used to cover up crimes.

718
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:02,359
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, uh, because we've covered stories on here where

719
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:05,839
Speaker 2: religious institutions have like sexual assaults and shit, and they

720
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:07,880
Speaker 2: cover it up and they tell the woman it's their fault.

721
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 3: Now, imagine that.

722
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 2: As hard as that is to to reconcile, imagine that.

723
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 2: And also there's an armed, fucking police department that is

724
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:19,320
Speaker 2: invested in making sure this church looks as good as possible.

725
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 2: It's not gonna get worse fuck out of here.

726
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,360
Speaker 5: They gonna go snipe a victim or some shit like

727
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 5: that or intimated victim.

728
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 2: Ridiculous, you know, I mean, these people are being charged

729
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 2: like you don't call the real police. Motherfuckers are quote

730
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,279
Speaker 2: unquote the real police and they can come in there

731
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 2: and take you know, oh, we got the evidence. Don't

732
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 2: worry about it anyway. Throw this in the trash, get

733
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 2: rid of it. Kayln Jenner says Ellen DeGeneres helped alienate

734
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 2: her from the LGBTQ community over gay marriage debate. What uh,

735
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:02,320
Speaker 2: I don't think you know what that word means?

736
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 6: Like?

737
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 3: It could be It might just be it might just

738
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 3: be my opinion, Okay, I don't know.

739
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:17,240
Speaker 2: Could be the fact that you sided with and voted

740
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 2: for bigots who misgender you, who will be nice to

741
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 2: you but hate the rest of the members of your

742
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:33,360
Speaker 2: community openly, who mock you, who passed regressive bills about

743
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:37,880
Speaker 2: the bathroom, about you and the people that are also

744
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 2: in your shoes. It might be that the Lenah, it's

745
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 2: like Stacey Dad saying, well, they don't let conservatives work

746
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 2: in Hollywood, and you're like, first of all, that's not true.

747
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:51,799
Speaker 3: Many conservatives working too.

748
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:55,800
Speaker 2: Don't nobody like your ass, Like your fuck ass opinion

749
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 2: is the problem.

750
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:56,839
Speaker 3: It ain't.

751
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:00,200
Speaker 2: No nobody's had to kick you out of anything. Ain't

752
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 2: no one had to. Ellen DeGeneres does not run the

753
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 2: game mafia. They don't sit around, right, They don't sit

754
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:10,800
Speaker 2: around and being like she's canceled, she's out of the family,

755
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 2: Like nor think you go on you went on this

756
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:16,399
Speaker 2: show and said stupid shit.

757
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 3: Now.

758
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 2: Part of the thing that's funny is there were a

759
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 2: lot of trans people, a lot of transactivists, and then

760
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 2: also a lot of haters, but point being some of

761
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 2: them were right, which was saying, don't take your ass

762
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 2: on these shows trying to represent your opinion as anything

763
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:35,240
Speaker 2: more than your opinion post because they're the like Kardashian

764
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 2: gender like kind of machine they have over there that

765
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 2: pr like just you know, everything's entertainment, everything's up for discussion.

766
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 3: Machine they have over there.

767
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 2: It was very much like, okay, well, how do we

768
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 2: get Caitlin out here now, Like how do we get

769
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 2: We need to get her her own show, we need

770
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:54,400
Speaker 2: to get her special, we need to get her And

771
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 2: it was very like a lot of people pushed backed

772
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:01,799
Speaker 2: on this because they were like, you're not ready because

773
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:04,240
Speaker 2: you haven't lived this life long enough. You haven't experienced

774
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 2: any of the downsides of this life long enough privilege

775
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 2: exactly to even examine your privilege to and and I

776
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 2: think she wanted to.

777
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:14,920
Speaker 3: Do all that shit live basically like I want to

778
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 3: go on these interviews. I want to have my show.

779
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 2: I want people to see me go through this because

780
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 2: that's what everyone's gonna be interested and they want to

781
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 2: see me. I want to surround myself with trans people.

782
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 2: I'm around myself with people of color so they can

783
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:29,759
Speaker 2: tell me and I'm just not gonna listen to I'm

784
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 2: wanna do what the fuck I want to.

785
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 3: Do solve that. And that's a problem, and.

786
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:38,439
Speaker 2: You look stupid when Trump is saying shit like, look,

787
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:39,839
Speaker 2: I don't have problem transgender people.

788
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:42,280
Speaker 3: Look and go golf on my course anytime.

789
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:46,319
Speaker 2: But really, he's also going, uh cut all of the

790
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:50,840
Speaker 2: uh you know, bills that have allowed transgender children to

791
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:53,839
Speaker 2: use the bathroom with that gender orientation. No fuck that

792
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 2: cut it out of all the federals out of schools,

793
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,800
Speaker 2: all of them while smiling in your face, and people

794
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,320
Speaker 2: talking about are you gonna dance her and the inauguration?

795
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:02,800
Speaker 3: Nigga, what the fuck did that matter?

796
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:05,840
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter, like you are hateful motherfucker, Like it

797
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:08,400
Speaker 2: doesn't matter if you'll dance with the optics of your

798
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 2: little pr bullshit ain't helping, and it was used to

799
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 2: provide cover for the bigotry that they have in house

800
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:16,880
Speaker 2: because they can always point to you the way they

801
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 2: point the black people over there, the way they point

802
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 2: the fucking Latino people over there, the way they point

803
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 2: to women over there, or it's like, look, she's one

804
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 2: of the good ones. This person is on our side, right, so, uh,

805
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 2: we can't be all bad if Kaitlyn thinks we cool.

806
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:35,360
Speaker 2: So yeah, you made yourself look stupid. Ellen didn't have

807
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:37,439
Speaker 2: to do shit. She could have set that like skip

808
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 2: Bayless when Steven ain't saying something dumb and just went.

809
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 3: Mm hmm yep, m hm, and you still.

810
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 2: Would have looked dumb like and that's that's so it's

811
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 2: so disheartening because to me, what this says that Kaitlyn

812
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:50,400
Speaker 2: has zero.

813
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 3: Responsibility uh and culpability.

814
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 2: In her own demise, Like she she refuses to acknowledge,

815
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 2: like I played this shit wrong, Like I didn't need

816
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 2: to have my ass out there acting like some type

817
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:04,320
Speaker 2: of authority on this experience.

818
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:05,400
Speaker 3: I don't know what the fuck I'm.

819
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 2: Talking about, right, Like we already do a terrible job

820
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 2: with TV and media of putting people in positions to

821
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 2: talk about things where they've done no research. They don't

822
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 2: care they're ignorant. They're openly ignorant. They find they feel

823
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 2: like people should see me talk about this because I

824
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 2: don't know what the fuck I'm talking about, when literally

825
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,799
Speaker 2: every fucking thing in life is the exact opposite of that.

826
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 3: Everything you pay money.

827
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:35,359
Speaker 2: If you're a business and you want somebody's expertise, you

828
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:38,839
Speaker 2: pay money to someone who knows what they're doing. If

829
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 2: I said, hey, I want you to build me a website,

830
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:43,400
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go look for somebody to do it. I

831
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 2: don't hire the person that's like, I've never built a website.

832
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:47,360
Speaker 2: Would you like to go through this process with me?

833
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 2: Know the fuck I would not. If I want to

834
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 2: get an education, right and I'm in school, if there's

835
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 2: a professor I want to hear talk about something, I'm

836
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 2: normally gonna go to the person that's read and studied

837
00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 2: on it. I'm not gonna go to the professor who's like, like, listen,

838
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 2: I'm not really a professor.

839
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 3: I'm just a dude. I'm reading the book along with you. Guys.

840
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 2: Fuck out of here, no thanks, you know what I mean.

841
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 2: This is the only area TV is one of the

842
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:12,840
Speaker 2: few areas where we play. Let's put Charles Barklay on

843
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 2: the show talk about race. He says he didn't even

844
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 2: know slavery was bad. Maybe he shouldn't leave the discussion.

845
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 2: Maybe a person who leads a discussion on racism in

846
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 2: America should possibly have an opinion on how bad slavery was.

847
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, maybe that's a revolutionary way to think.

848
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 2: Maybe the person that wants to be on TV to

849
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 2: lead the discussion have the conversation about being transgender in America.

850
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 2: Maybe you want to get a person that has done

851
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:45,359
Speaker 2: some sort of research, that has lived this life, that

852
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:49,319
Speaker 2: associates with other people within the community so they can

853
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:52,359
Speaker 2: talk about it, Like you can't do that shit and

854
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,959
Speaker 2: then turn around and blame Ellen, Like Ellen was sitting

855
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:58,279
Speaker 2: around like I'm gonna get this motherfucker watch this, Watch

856
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 2: how I make Caitlyn fail. She was thinking about your

857
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 2: ass like that you went and did that interview. And

858
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:06,840
Speaker 2: Ellen is also one of the nicest softball type interviews

859
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:09,440
Speaker 2: you can do, right, Like she don't do the kind

860
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 2: of show that's like I'm about to demonize this motherfucker.

861
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:16,360
Speaker 2: Watch how to catch them slipping? Come on, so I

862
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 2: disgusting man discuss.

863
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:22,359
Speaker 5: It and making more enemies when when you make them

864
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:24,759
Speaker 5: sweeping statements, because at the end of the day, you

865
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 5: don't want to be accountable for your action, so you're

866
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:29,479
Speaker 5: trying to say, I'm not accountable for all these people

867
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 5: turning on me.

868
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 2: I believe, as anyone would, that that was exactly what

869
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:36,400
Speaker 2: she wanted to talk about my progression in terms of

870
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 2: changing the attitude over the years, Kaitlyn writes, before adding

871
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 2: that she was surprised by the Generous's comment that Kaitlyn

872
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 2: was still a little not on board with the gay marriage.

873
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 3: I am for it, she has in the book.

874
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 2: I did not intentionally understand why marriage was so important, influenced,

875
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 2: no doubt by my own personal experience. Now I do,

876
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 2: and it's a wonderful thing to see. During Ellen's interview

877
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 2: with Howard, the TV host explained why she was confused

878
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:00,439
Speaker 2: by some of Kaitlyn's responsors to the show.

879
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:02,840
Speaker 3: I said, you're wanting people to understand and accept you.

880
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 2: This is like really confusing to people, and you still

881
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:07,879
Speaker 2: have a judgment about gay people in marriage. Ellen said

882
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 2: at the time, she goes, well, if the world, if

883
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:13,880
Speaker 2: the world marriage is the word marriage is important? Is

884
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 2: that important?

885
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:14,839
Speaker 3: It is?

886
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 2: That's the word, we want the same thing. But in

887
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 2: her memoir, Kaitlyn says she believes this interview led to

888
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 2: her words being taken out of context and spread incorrectly,

889
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:26,759
Speaker 2: which caused further backlash. This discussion further alienates me from

890
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:30,360
Speaker 2: members of the LGBTQ community, She writes Ellen's appearance on

891
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:33,479
Speaker 2: the Howard Shun Show, where in my mind, she's even

892
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:35,880
Speaker 2: more emphatically took what I said out of contact and

893
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:36,760
Speaker 2: made it go viral.

894
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 3: We saw the fucking interview.

895
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:42,880
Speaker 2: You said what you said, Dad, right you look and

896
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:46,920
Speaker 2: then like that's the other thing. It reducing the whole

897
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 2: idea of like, well, if people think it's important that

898
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 2: word of marriage is what they want, I.

899
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:51,920
Speaker 3: Guess is important.

900
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 2: Would be just as reductive and silly and dismissive as

901
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:57,440
Speaker 2: somebody being like, well, I guess if you won't to

902
00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:00,160
Speaker 2: be called a woman, and I mean I guess if

903
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:02,879
Speaker 2: it's important to you that word, like you don't, that's

904
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 2: not the kind of advocate ally or even just that's

905
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 2: just not even the kind of respect you on out

906
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:12,720
Speaker 2: of this situation, Like you would still rather have somebody

907
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 2: be like if it's important to you, I might not

908
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:19,799
Speaker 2: even understand it, but I'm going to listen to why

909
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:21,799
Speaker 2: you feel it's important and be.

910
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 3: Like I got you, Like, okay, I got you.

911
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 2: That's why it's important because marriage isn't just a word

912
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 2: in America like and trust me, anybody that's been a

913
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:32,399
Speaker 2: side check for many years will tell you this shit

914
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 2: ain't just a word.

915
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 3: Means yeah, it definitely means shit.

916
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 2: And because of the way the laws laid out, it's

917
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 2: not the same as just dating or just a partnership

918
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 2: or just any.

919
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:43,799
Speaker 3: Of that shit.

920
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:48,279
Speaker 5: That's funny, even the common marriage because people talk about that.

921
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 4: But at the end of the day, the motherfuckers gonna

922
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:51,280
Speaker 4: say are you married?

923
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 5: They don't give a fuck about y'all been living on

924
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 5: the same room for X amount of years. They gonna

925
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 5: be like, are you married? And that's kind of all

926
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:00,799
Speaker 5: that matters. Kind of in a out of states, that

927
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 5: shit sounds cute and it sounds pretty and there's nothing

928
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 5: wrong with how you choose to live your life.

929
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 4: But in this country, marriage means something.

930
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a little there's an extra level of respect

931
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 2: for you know, all that shit.

932
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:18,800
Speaker 4: And people can fight a coming marriage. People don't. People

933
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:20,279
Speaker 4: act like people can't fight that shit.

934
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:22,760
Speaker 3: Dude, people can fight it, right.

935
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:23,399
Speaker 4: So.

936
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 5: All right, uh my mom, But her saying that stupid shit.

937
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 5: That's why people ever since King and Jenner came on

938
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:39,399
Speaker 5: the scene and was talking crazy talk to my house.

939
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 4: You know, she's Republican and shit like that.

940
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 5: Basically going against a lot of things that people that

941
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:48,879
Speaker 5: are LGBTQ stand for. A lot of people have been

942
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna say anti her, they like you said,

943
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 5: they've been like she is not the fucking spokesperson. Quit

944
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 5: put microphones in the face, Quit quit showing around like

945
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 5: a pony and pony and horse show like you know,

946
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 5: she's something fantastical when at the end of the day,

947
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 5: she does not know what she's talking about. A lot

948
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:10,360
Speaker 5: of people have been like that against her since day one, yep,

949
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:12,920
Speaker 5: and that's why. And then when she comes down and

950
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:14,879
Speaker 5: says like this, she go, Okay, y'all knew what y'all

951
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:18,759
Speaker 5: talking about. She doesn't understand, she really doesn't understand the

952
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 5: plight of so many people that follow in this group.

953
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 4: They're not hurt, they don't allow them, don't have privilege.

954
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:27,320
Speaker 4: A lot of them. Candy could not afford the work

955
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:30,840
Speaker 4: that she had done. You know, it's a lot more.

956
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 2: Even just even just the pr of it, right, you know,

957
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 2: the idea of celebrating somebody like people were resentful of it.

958
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 2: I'm not saying all this shit came from good place.

959
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:43,280
Speaker 2: I think a lot of people were really just hateful,

960
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 2: and a lot of people tried to couch there. You know,

961
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 2: well I just hate the Kardashians and shit like that.

962
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 2: But really they was like, yeah, you hate them, but

963
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:53,840
Speaker 2: then that turns you into a biggot. I don't understand

964
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:56,799
Speaker 2: where you're crossing streams on this, Like you can't just

965
00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:58,719
Speaker 2: be like I don't like the Kardashians and leave it

966
00:48:58,760 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 2: at that.

967
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:01,840
Speaker 3: It's like, no, now, so I have to miss.

968
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 2: Gender u Kaitlyn Jenner, and also I have to say

969
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:06,759
Speaker 2: a bunch of fucked up shit about trans people and

970
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 2: stuff because I hate the Kardashians. It's like, yeah, that

971
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 2: doesn't sound right. That's like saying I hate Kanye West

972
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:15,399
Speaker 2: and that's why I say niggers and call them out

973
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 2: their name and ship. But hey, I'm I'm an alloy

974
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 2: of black people. Like no, the fuck you ain't dog.

975
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 2: You pull that shit back when you feel mad, and

976
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:25,399
Speaker 2: that's bullshit. But you can still be like I think

977
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 2: Kaitlyn Jenner is fucked up without having a delve into

978
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 2: those type of pedantic insults. So right, but yeah, she

979
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 2: alienated herself period.

980
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 4: And will continue to until she gets it right. Right,

981
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:39,800
Speaker 4: but she going down this road, she'll.

982
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 3: Never get it right.

983
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:42,879
Speaker 2: And even this and Ellen, if you really do think

984
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:45,040
Speaker 2: Ellen is the one that puts you on this path

985
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:46,480
Speaker 2: this and her ain't about to help.

986
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 4: All you're gonna do is not your fan, turn a

987
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 4: lot of her fans and like you off.

988
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 3: Yep.

989
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 2: So all right, let's see what else we have. There's

990
00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 2: other news.

991
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:04,959
Speaker 3: Uh, American Airlines saw that.

992
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:10,359
Speaker 2: United was having some issues, and so they decided that

993
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 2: we should hold their beer as they go for the record. Yeah,

994
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 2: apparently there was a flight attendant who.

995
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:24,719
Speaker 3: Was having some muse with.

996
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 2: A passenger who was trying to stole a stroller in

997
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:32,800
Speaker 2: the overhead compartment. Now, apparently they had told this lady,

998
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 2: you can folds up small, then you can store it

999
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 2: in the overhead compartment. If it doesn't fit, then we

1000
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:42,239
Speaker 2: will have to put it in you'll have to pay

1001
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:45,400
Speaker 2: for it as a carry on. So she went to

1002
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 2: go do that, and apparently the woman the flight attendant flipped.

1003
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:55,280
Speaker 3: Out on her. The woman was crying.

1004
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:59,319
Speaker 2: The flight attendant looks on, Oh my god, AA flight

1005
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 2: attendant by he took a stroller from a baby on

1006
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 2: the flight, hitting her.

1007
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 3: And just missing the baby.

1008
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:04,560
Speaker 2: Uh.

1009
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 3: Then he tried to fly fight a passenger who stood

1010
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 3: up for her. Oh my bad, it was a him.

1011
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:09,440
Speaker 6: Uh.

1012
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:11,359
Speaker 2: He tried to fight a passenger who stood up for her.

1013
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:13,719
Speaker 2: AA five ninety one from San Francisco. W that's the

1014
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:16,319
Speaker 2: catch on the video, which has already been viewed two

1015
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:18,960
Speaker 2: point six million times. I might be able to put

1016
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 2: it on screen for y'all. Give me a second. I'll

1017
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 2: see what I can do. But yeah, airlines travel lately, man,

1018
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:28,759
Speaker 2: it's been getting a bad rap.

1019
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:30,880
Speaker 3: And what's so fucked up?

1020
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 5: Depending on where you stay, you don't have nohe but

1021
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:35,719
Speaker 5: fucking large airlines like some places don't have the little

1022
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 5: small independent because everybody ate everybody up?

1023
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:43,000
Speaker 3: Yeah? Is it showing on screen? It just popped up?

1024
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 3: All right? Cool? All right? Let me see if I

1025
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:45,479
Speaker 3: can play this for you guys.

1026
00:51:57,360 --> 00:51:59,760
Speaker 1: Play.

1027
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 2: So this is after the stroller was snatching this woman.

1028
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 2: She was hitting the head with it back. So then

1029
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 2: I guess, thanks.

1030
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 4: Wonder what, No, I'm not gonna.

1031
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:23,279
Speaker 2: Now the palace already said something. Uh, he's come out

1032
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 2: of the cab cockpit. When you hear somebody say sir,

1033
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:29,640
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna sit up here and watch this. So

1034
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:32,360
Speaker 2: like people are already coming to her defense, which I know,

1035
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:33,240
Speaker 2: it's pissing off.

1036
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:35,239
Speaker 3: A lot of people that saw the.

1037
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 2: Videos of that David Dow dude and how he was

1038
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 2: basically pulled out of there.

1039
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 3: Nobody says ship.

1040
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:44,439
Speaker 2: I know it's also probably pissing off people that heard

1041
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:46,839
Speaker 2: about the Delta Airline flights and how they teld those

1042
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:50,640
Speaker 2: black women that you can't be doctors apparently because you're

1043
00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:52,680
Speaker 2: a black woman, and why would we believe you.

1044
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:54,920
Speaker 3: Things of that nature.

1045
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:56,839
Speaker 2: So I guarantee it's pissing a lot of people off

1046
00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:59,080
Speaker 2: just listening because of the double standard. And she's a

1047
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 2: white woman who's crying, and yes, people are coming to

1048
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:20,800
Speaker 2: her aid right away. So a dude gets out of

1049
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:24,360
Speaker 2: seat starts asking who is the flight attendant?

1050
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:25,480
Speaker 3: Dad hit her with the stroller?

1051
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:39,400
Speaker 6: Ship Like I'm reported as for him, say.

1052
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:52,319
Speaker 4: What about the.

1053
00:53:55,040 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 7: What's it sounds like you both of the us.

1054
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:19,800
Speaker 2: I guess he's now this the other dude's explaining the

1055
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 2: whole thing and everybody. The flight attendant dude came back

1056
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 2: and he's obviously mad and talking to the guy who

1057
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:44,719
Speaker 2: asked for his name, you.

1058
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 8: Know, and the dude now is out of his seat

1059
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:57,920
Speaker 8: like he's gonna fight the flight attendant dude, Like this

1060
00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:00,279
Speaker 8: is a totally different response than the one we so all,

1061
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:03,959
Speaker 8: I guess there's no air marshal on this light must

1062
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:11,799
Speaker 8: not be.

1063
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:11,279
Speaker 4: Buck you up.

1064
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 3: Well, I'm not gonna get go with before we're going.

1065
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:17,239
Speaker 4: You don't know what the story is.

1066
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 7: Story almost hurt a baby.

1067
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:26,960
Speaker 4: You keep looking at me and show us what you

1068
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:29,480
Speaker 4: did that lady. Keep it quiet. Yeah, I can see

1069
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:30,319
Speaker 4: exactly what you did.

1070
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:31,320
Speaker 3: Maybe you'll get.

1071
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:31,879
Speaker 2: Video taped too.

1072
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:33,359
Speaker 6: You don't know the music.

1073
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:36,160
Speaker 3: I got.

1074
00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:40,440
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be.

1075
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:43,880
Speaker 5: So.

1076
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:48,160
Speaker 2: Then the staff kind of steps off the plane. But yeah,

1077
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:51,040
Speaker 2: that that happened, dog.

1078
00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:53,319
Speaker 4: Now.

1079
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:58,800
Speaker 2: The difference is American issues like an apology like right away,

1080
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:03,160
Speaker 2: unlike United, who was like trying to justify that shit

1081
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:06,840
Speaker 2: and had several days of terrible apologies.

1082
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:10,719
Speaker 3: And does their job.

1083
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:14,759
Speaker 2: Uh see, they said they haven't specified the outcome for

1084
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:16,759
Speaker 2: the passenger who tried to fight fight to flight the

1085
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 2: tendant if he wasn't kicked off the plane as an

1086
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:22,879
Speaker 2: incident played out of some remarkable Yeah that's true, uh,

1087
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:24,799
Speaker 2: they said, We've seen the video, have already started an

1088
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:26,960
Speaker 2: investigation to obtain the facts. But do be sorry for

1089
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:29,000
Speaker 2: the pain we have caused this passenger, her family, and

1090
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:30,720
Speaker 2: any customers affected by the incident.

1091
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:31,600
Speaker 3: America said.

1092
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:33,600
Speaker 2: The woman in her family will be flown first class

1093
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:36,600
Speaker 2: on another flight to finish their international trip. The actions

1094
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:38,520
Speaker 2: of our team member capture here do not appear to

1095
00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:42,200
Speaker 2: reflect the patients or empathy, two values necessary for customer care,

1096
00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:48,920
Speaker 2: The airline said, Yeah, the American team member has been

1097
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Speaker 2: removed from duty. And while we immediately investigate this incident,

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Speaker 2: ye unless y'all find a gun in that stroller, that

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00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:58,120
Speaker 2: motherfucker should lose this job. Come on, like, I don't

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Speaker 2: even know how you can justify by anything, and shorter that,

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00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:06,080
Speaker 2: but yeah, American Airline was like, we need to get

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Speaker 2: into this United of course, still going for the gold.

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00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:12,439
Speaker 2: American was like, we can, we can try for maybe

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00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:15,160
Speaker 2: we can medal, uh.

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00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:15,880
Speaker 3: To which.

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00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:25,000
Speaker 2: Apparently Delta said, hold my shot glass because I'm gonna

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00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:28,479
Speaker 2: have to go in air Marshall left a loaded gun

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00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:32,120
Speaker 2: in an airplane bathroom on a man chatter to New

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00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:35,600
Speaker 2: York City flight for a passenger to find and had

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00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:40,440
Speaker 2: and hand to a crew member. Wow, a newly highed

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00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 2: air marshall left the weapon by accident aboard Delta flight

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00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:52,520
Speaker 2: two one two one, and uh, oh man, that was

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00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:56,400
Speaker 2: It's worse than that Liam Neeson movie up in the air.

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Speaker 3: Jesus is stupid.

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00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:01,120
Speaker 2: But a crew member turned the gun to the agent,

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00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:04,280
Speaker 2: who failed to report the mishap to management until days later.

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00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:09,680
Speaker 5: Whoops, you failed to put up to passengers to the

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00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:12,920
Speaker 5: might say something dunk the gun might say something only.

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00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:17,040
Speaker 3: Got the crew mm hmm my found out.

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Speaker 4: Whoops, Like I'm I saying he's newly unemployed. Uh.

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Speaker 2: Golf balls and hash browns lead to a recall. Golf

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00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:31,480
Speaker 2: balls golf balls Matthews. North Carolina food companies are calling

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Speaker 2: frozen ash browns from stores in nine states because the

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00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:39,000
Speaker 2: potatoes may have pieces of golf balls in them.

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Speaker 4: How the fu course? How the fuck this happened?

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00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:46,640
Speaker 3: I don't know. It doesn't sound like it's par for

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00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:47,240
Speaker 3: the course.

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Speaker 2: Can mm hmm, I'm just saying I know y'all want

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00:58:54,960 --> 00:59:04,920
Speaker 2: to hear it too, all right. McCain foods us a

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00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:08,560
Speaker 2: recall notice that the godballs apparently were inadvertently harvest along

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00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:10,840
Speaker 2: with the potatoes and chopped up, and they say the

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00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:13,400
Speaker 2: pieces could be a choking hazard, but no injuries have

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00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:14,080
Speaker 2: been reported.

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Speaker 4: I guess them hash browns just hit a bogie.

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00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:30,720
Speaker 2: Yeah no, little Birdie told me that, uh, this is

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00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:33,760
Speaker 2: gonna happen, which is why I know Karen's been waiting

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00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:34,680
Speaker 2: to tee off on it.

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Speaker 3: Uh. Yeah.

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00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:49,280
Speaker 2: The companies were calling two pound bags of Harris Teeter

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00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:53,760
Speaker 2: brand frozen Southern style hash browns in North Carolina, South Carolina, Virginia,

1141
00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:57,320
Speaker 2: District of Columbia, Delaware, Florida, Georgia, and Maryland the whole

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00:59:57,360 --> 01:00:03,320
Speaker 2: back nine guys. Uh. It is also recalling Roundy brand

1143
01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:10,560
Speaker 2: frozen Southern style hash browns from Mariano's Metro Market and

1144
01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:12,920
Speaker 2: picking Save stores in Illinois and Wisconsin.

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01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:15,320
Speaker 4: So everything must come out of the same factory then.

1146
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:19,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm assuming so, yeah, yeah they do a lot

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01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:19,360
Speaker 2: of times.

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01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:21,000
Speaker 5: People feder realize when it comes to a lot of

1149
01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:23,440
Speaker 5: your foods and the stuff you consume, a lot of

1150
01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:26,840
Speaker 5: it comes from the same plant, and that just change

1151
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:28,920
Speaker 5: the label and smacks uthing else across it, and it

1152
01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:31,520
Speaker 5: could be a difference between five ninety nine a package

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01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:33,400
Speaker 5: and nine to nine cent is just a sticker.

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01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:45,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's one way of putting it. Sorry. Yeah, and

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01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:46,640
Speaker 3: the hash rounds have been recalled.

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01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:50,840
Speaker 2: Have the production code B one seven zero one nine

1157
01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:52,880
Speaker 2: on the back of the bag. So y'all be careful

1158
01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:56,440
Speaker 2: out there if you eat no Southern style hash Browns,

1159
01:00:57,000 --> 01:01:03,560
Speaker 2: make sure you don't get pieces of golf ball.

1160
01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:08,800
Speaker 3: Right. Hopefully you guys can spot it with your eagle eyes.

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01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:17,280
Speaker 3: Mm hm hmmm. I guess they're going through a bit

1162
01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:18,320
Speaker 3: of a rough patch.

1163
01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:23,840
Speaker 4: Mm hmmm.

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01:01:29,720 --> 01:01:34,280
Speaker 2: I can't help himself, guys. I'm sorry, it's choking some

1165
01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:36,360
Speaker 2: make I mean, it's a choking hazard. So make sure

1166
01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:44,200
Speaker 2: you guys drink some water. Hazard Now, I'm just stuck

1167
01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:49,560
Speaker 2: in the sand trap, all right, all right, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 3: These are horrible. Oh god, uh, let's see what else happened.

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01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:03,360
Speaker 2: Michigan now makes it illegal for undercovered police to have

1170
01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:08,880
Speaker 2: sexual prostitutes they are investigating and unrelated news, you used

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01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:11,240
Speaker 2: to can have sexual prostitutes you are investigating if you're

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Speaker 2: a police officer.

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01:02:12,120 --> 01:02:13,760
Speaker 4: And no charges could be pressed against you.

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01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:16,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, if I was.

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Speaker 2: It says a bill makes it impossible, It makes it

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01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:20,320
Speaker 2: possible for other for these law enforcement officers to be

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Speaker 2: prosecuted if the officer engaged in sexual penetration while in

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01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:25,440
Speaker 2: the course of his or her duties. It's not a

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01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:28,000
Speaker 2: common tactic used by undercovered police. According to local and

1180
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:31,680
Speaker 2: state officials, the exemption from prosecution for undercover police officers

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01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:34,680
Speaker 2: was meant to protect officers they embark on stinging investigations

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01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:37,360
Speaker 2: of prostitution ring so like, I'm under cover, I'm working

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01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:41,840
Speaker 2: in this stinger. I'm trying to but apparently, uh, I.

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01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:43,320
Speaker 3: Can see how people would abuse that.

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01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:47,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, the dutious distinction of being the last state in

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01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:49,959
Speaker 2: the nation that had this low on the books.

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01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:52,920
Speaker 4: Is all about the same. I thought it was legal everywhere.

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01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:54,440
Speaker 3: Now goes to Michigan.

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Speaker 2: The last state that end such an exemption was Hawaii

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Speaker 2: in twenty fourteen. Ms Emmis said, how do you debate this?

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01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:03,479
Speaker 2: I don't know how one could come out and argue

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01:03:03,480 --> 01:03:05,120
Speaker 2: against this. This bill is part of an effort to

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01:03:05,160 --> 01:03:07,200
Speaker 2: state of the state to provide more protection for.

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01:03:07,360 --> 01:03:09,640
Speaker 3: Human trafficking victims. In many states.

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01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:12,360
Speaker 2: However, prostitutes, even if there are actually human trafficking victims,

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01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:14,840
Speaker 2: still do not actually have to engage in sex act

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01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:19,160
Speaker 2: to be arrested facilitization. International human rights lawyers and advocates

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Speaker 2: for victims and human trafficking. Mary Catherine Burke told The

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Speaker 2: Independent said she does not understand why it took so

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01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:26,880
Speaker 2: long for the state to pass a lot, but.

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01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:29,080
Speaker 3: Considered the win for victims of advocates. Y'all.

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01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:31,880
Speaker 2: Remember they had a scene like this in the wire

1203
01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:35,480
Speaker 2: and I thought to myself, like, that is ridiculously that.

1204
01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:38,160
Speaker 2: How is that legal? Like how is that detective? I

1205
01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:39,720
Speaker 2: think it's a no TI or something. I was like,

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01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:42,240
Speaker 2: how does he not go to jail for that shit too?

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01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:45,200
Speaker 2: He gotta dick sucked on as part of the sting

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01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:48,040
Speaker 2: quote unquote. You know they wrote it as almost like

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01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:50,560
Speaker 2: a joke, but I mean that's some serious shit man.

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Speaker 2: Ms Burke said she had her several stories of victims

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Speaker 2: being bought by police. I heard the stories of adult

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01:03:56,720 --> 01:03:59,200
Speaker 2: sex workers being detained by law enforcement, having them offered

1213
01:03:59,200 --> 01:04:01,240
Speaker 2: to release the sex work without arrest or charge with

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01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:03,480
Speaker 2: the sex worker performed some sort of act, and then

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01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:07,280
Speaker 2: arresting the sex worker on prostitution charges. Anyway, the cruelty

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01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:12,240
Speaker 2: of that, right, Like, you gotta be a sadistic motherfucker

1217
01:04:12,280 --> 01:04:15,439
Speaker 2: to be like you still gotta feel this quota when

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01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:17,760
Speaker 2: police engaged in sex with these victims by investigating them,

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Speaker 2: it's antithetical to the whole idea of victim services, said

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01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:24,120
Speaker 2: miss Burgh. Yet it was allowed to go until twenty seventeen.

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01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:36,120
Speaker 2: Twenty seventeen, yep, Keith Ellison said former President Obama is

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01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:39,720
Speaker 2: partially the blame for the Democrats poor showing at the

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Speaker 2: polls in twenty sixteen.

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Speaker 4: She wasn't running.

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01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:45,040
Speaker 3: What does happened again twenty sixteen? Now?

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Speaker 2: You know, Eldroy hit me on Twitter when I was

1227
01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:52,160
Speaker 2: talking about this and said, there's some things about like

1228
01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:58,280
Speaker 2: twenty ten and shit that she and other Democrats felt that,

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01:04:58,320 --> 01:05:00,640
Speaker 2: you know, Obama necessarily didn't give him write am ount

1230
01:05:00,640 --> 01:05:04,360
Speaker 2: of funding or whatever, or the right amount of resources allocated.

1231
01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:06,760
Speaker 2: And I'm sure she's as a political strategist and the

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01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:10,240
Speaker 2: more of an insider remember that party, she probably can

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01:05:10,280 --> 01:05:15,320
Speaker 2: speak on that to greater greater than I could. You know,

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01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:17,400
Speaker 2: I'm not an expert in this by any means, and

1235
01:05:18,520 --> 01:05:23,200
Speaker 2: I definitely botter her her knowledge on it. But get

1236
01:05:23,200 --> 01:05:26,680
Speaker 2: the fuck out of here with this revisionist ass history

1237
01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:30,440
Speaker 2: of like how things went in twenty ten. I know

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01:05:30,520 --> 01:05:34,040
Speaker 2: we lived in the state where our senator won only

1239
01:05:34,120 --> 01:05:35,240
Speaker 2: because of two.

1240
01:05:35,120 --> 01:05:35,680
Speaker 3: Thousand and eight.

1241
01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:41,720
Speaker 2: Barack Obama is like pure fucking the amount of people

1242
01:05:41,720 --> 01:05:45,000
Speaker 2: that voted for him and just went I'm gonna do

1243
01:05:45,080 --> 01:05:46,320
Speaker 2: a whole blue ticket.

1244
01:05:46,280 --> 01:05:48,880
Speaker 4: Straight part because I stay literally got rid of it

1245
01:05:48,920 --> 01:05:49,520
Speaker 4: the next year.

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01:05:49,720 --> 01:05:50,560
Speaker 3: That's how she won.

1247
01:05:51,280 --> 01:05:56,640
Speaker 2: And then when it was time for reelection, she could

1248
01:05:56,760 --> 01:05:59,400
Speaker 2: not have pretended to not know Barack Obama anymore than.

1249
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Speaker 4: She did, and that's what her fucking ass lost.

1250
01:06:01,480 --> 01:06:04,440
Speaker 2: The attack as were like she knows Warack Obama, and

1251
01:06:04,480 --> 01:06:06,160
Speaker 2: her ass was like, he ain't got nothing to do

1252
01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:06,440
Speaker 2: with me.

1253
01:06:07,120 --> 01:06:08,320
Speaker 3: That wasn't just our state.

1254
01:06:08,720 --> 01:06:12,640
Speaker 2: Many Democratic people did that to the detriment and they lost.

1255
01:06:13,160 --> 01:06:15,040
Speaker 2: You know, if that's some type of inner workings of

1256
01:06:15,080 --> 01:06:18,680
Speaker 2: the resources and allocations, then I don't understand why the

1257
01:06:18,680 --> 01:06:21,560
Speaker 2: public face was a repudiation of the sitting president that

1258
01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:24,960
Speaker 2: had a much popular, much more popular rating than any

1259
01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:28,360
Speaker 2: of his detractors and even any of his supporters within

1260
01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:31,920
Speaker 2: the government. He was the most popular person during the

1261
01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:35,280
Speaker 2: time where the government could have been considered very unpopular,

1262
01:06:36,080 --> 01:06:39,040
Speaker 2: and you still run away from him. They played right

1263
01:06:39,080 --> 01:06:42,240
Speaker 2: into Republican's hands, and now they want to revise it.

1264
01:06:42,360 --> 01:06:44,400
Speaker 2: As like dud the President Obama just didn't do it.

1265
01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:46,640
Speaker 3: Enough for us. How do you do something for people

1266
01:06:46,640 --> 01:06:48,840
Speaker 3: that actively don't want you to do shit for them?

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01:06:49,120 --> 01:06:51,600
Speaker 3: You know, I don't like I understand.

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01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:54,479
Speaker 2: People that were like, well, I was on the ground

1269
01:06:54,560 --> 01:06:56,360
Speaker 2: and I did this, that and the other, and you

1270
01:06:56,400 --> 01:07:00,840
Speaker 2: know that's your opinion, man, But I think also that

1271
01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:03,880
Speaker 2: shit sometimes people play it wrong. And maybe it's but

1272
01:07:03,960 --> 01:07:06,440
Speaker 2: from the fact that you have to not be on

1273
01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:08,760
Speaker 2: the ground to understand that, Well, y'all played that shit

1274
01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:11,600
Speaker 2: wrong running away from Obama. That was what I do

1275
01:07:11,680 --> 01:07:15,000
Speaker 2: know is you lost. So by your estimates it was

1276
01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:17,280
Speaker 2: the right decision. Well, you was the right decision, and

1277
01:07:17,360 --> 01:07:19,720
Speaker 2: y'all lost. You know, I don't think it was the

1278
01:07:19,800 --> 01:07:21,400
Speaker 2: right decision to do. I think it was the wrong

1279
01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:24,280
Speaker 2: decision to run away from that from President Obama at

1280
01:07:24,320 --> 01:07:24,800
Speaker 2: that time.

1281
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Speaker 3: And you're not.

1282
01:07:27,360 --> 01:07:29,520
Speaker 2: Here's and here's a bigger point of all this shit.

1283
01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:34,440
Speaker 2: Let's say, for instance, everyone's right, President Obama let them

1284
01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:36,600
Speaker 2: down and he's the reason that they didn't win more

1285
01:07:36,680 --> 01:07:38,960
Speaker 2: seats and it even affected him in twenty sixteen. Let's

1286
01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:44,200
Speaker 2: assume that that's correct. You're not gonna be able to

1287
01:07:44,200 --> 01:07:47,280
Speaker 2: make that case to Democratic voters and the American people

1288
01:07:47,320 --> 01:07:52,200
Speaker 2: in mass He's more popular than all of you. He's

1289
01:07:52,360 --> 01:07:55,200
Speaker 2: still gonna be the person. People are waiting for him

1290
01:07:55,200 --> 01:07:58,360
Speaker 2: to come back and speak right now. People are waiting

1291
01:07:58,400 --> 01:07:59,880
Speaker 2: on his book right now.

1292
01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:00,440
Speaker 4: Mm hmm.

1293
01:08:01,680 --> 01:08:04,080
Speaker 3: Like Bernie Sanders don't want y'all.

1294
01:08:04,720 --> 01:08:08,560
Speaker 2: Like he like he's essentially won't claim y'all in public, dude, Like,

1295
01:08:09,160 --> 01:08:10,080
Speaker 2: I'm not a Democrat.

1296
01:08:10,120 --> 01:08:11,440
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna go to these rallies.

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01:08:11,480 --> 01:08:14,920
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna tell everybody I'm I demand their attention,

1298
01:08:15,240 --> 01:08:17,719
Speaker 2: I demand their votes. Out the man that the DNC

1299
01:08:17,920 --> 01:08:20,960
Speaker 2: get behind me, while actively being not a part of

1300
01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:23,320
Speaker 2: the DNC. Out of man all this shit because it

1301
01:08:23,320 --> 01:08:25,800
Speaker 2: I'm all about myself. But at the end of the day,

1302
01:08:25,840 --> 01:08:27,719
Speaker 2: fuck Democrats and fuck all y'all.

1303
01:08:27,960 --> 01:08:30,920
Speaker 3: It's about Bernie and me only and just me. That's it.

1304
01:08:30,960 --> 01:08:32,120
Speaker 3: That's what it's about.

1305
01:08:33,000 --> 01:08:35,680
Speaker 2: I believe Rock Obama canna come and I think Ellison

1306
01:08:36,080 --> 01:08:40,200
Speaker 2: is framing it this way on purpose. I expect Barack

1307
01:08:40,200 --> 01:08:42,240
Speaker 2: Obama to come back and everybody to be like, so,

1308
01:08:42,520 --> 01:08:46,639
Speaker 2: what are we really gonna do? Right And this thing

1309
01:08:46,680 --> 01:08:49,400
Speaker 2: where you're alienating and trying to divide the base, I

1310
01:08:49,439 --> 01:08:52,720
Speaker 2: think that's exactly how you get to uh four more

1311
01:08:52,800 --> 01:08:54,360
Speaker 2: years of Trump with this bullshit?

1312
01:08:54,560 --> 01:08:55,760
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah yeah.

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01:08:55,960 --> 01:08:57,960
Speaker 5: Like I said, I will not be shocked if you

1314
01:08:58,040 --> 01:08:58,920
Speaker 5: get voted in again.

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01:08:59,560 --> 01:08:59,760
Speaker 3: Right.

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01:09:00,680 --> 01:09:02,400
Speaker 2: Look, I'm a great parade and the President Obama I

1317
01:09:02,680 --> 01:09:05,320
Speaker 2: totally voted for many of the things he supported. Died

1318
01:09:05,360 --> 01:09:08,080
Speaker 2: frank a Photo Care Act that he led, better fair

1319
01:09:08,120 --> 01:09:10,960
Speaker 2: pay Act. I could keep going, Ellison said an event Wednesday,

1320
01:09:11,000 --> 01:09:12,920
Speaker 2: one to four achievements. But Barack Obama could have been

1321
01:09:12,960 --> 01:09:14,960
Speaker 2: a better party leader, and I think the fact that

1322
01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:17,320
Speaker 2: he was to put his legacy in Jeffardy. He added

1323
01:09:17,320 --> 01:09:19,600
Speaker 2: that Obama was great at getting him self elected, but

1324
01:09:19,720 --> 01:09:22,040
Speaker 2: said he should have worked closer with the party leaders

1325
01:09:22,040 --> 01:09:25,439
Speaker 2: to ensure Democrats were in power to protect his accomplishments.

1326
01:09:26,160 --> 01:09:28,840
Speaker 2: How much closer was he supposed to work with on

1327
01:09:30,600 --> 01:09:32,680
Speaker 2: when you didn't want to fuck with him? And then

1328
01:09:32,760 --> 01:09:36,400
Speaker 2: when you consider twenty sixteen he worked with the party leaders.

1329
01:09:37,720 --> 01:09:42,200
Speaker 2: Hillary Clinton is a party leader. He was her biggest advocate.

1330
01:09:43,120 --> 01:09:46,759
Speaker 2: Michelle Obama even campaign for Hillary Clinton. She was definitely

1331
01:09:46,800 --> 01:09:51,639
Speaker 2: the biggest impactful speaker for Hillary Clinton's behalf. It don't

1332
01:09:51,680 --> 01:09:54,679
Speaker 2: get more working with the party than that. I don't understand.

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01:09:55,240 --> 01:09:57,120
Speaker 2: He says, your legacy is not a building, and he's

1334
01:09:57,120 --> 01:10:00,719
Speaker 2: going to construct in Chicago housing his president dential papers.

1335
01:10:00,720 --> 01:10:02,679
Speaker 2: His legacy is the work he's done, which I believe

1336
01:10:02,720 --> 01:10:05,040
Speaker 2: is tremendous. But given we lost a lot of state House, seas,

1337
01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:08,160
Speaker 2: governorship's Secretary of States, his true legacy is in danger,

1338
01:10:08,200 --> 01:10:10,479
Speaker 2: and I think he can't say that.

1339
01:10:10,360 --> 01:10:12,840
Speaker 3: He wasn't part of those losses. Who else? Right?

1340
01:10:14,240 --> 01:10:16,479
Speaker 2: It comes to as DNC begainst the process of rebelting

1341
01:10:16,479 --> 01:10:18,360
Speaker 2: the National Party in the leadership of new chairman Tom

1342
01:10:18,400 --> 01:10:22,800
Speaker 2: Perez after disaster is twenty sixteen election cycle. Yeah, I

1343
01:10:22,800 --> 01:10:24,639
Speaker 2: feel like those are chickens coming home to rus Since

1344
01:10:24,640 --> 01:10:28,719
Speaker 2: twenty ten, I don't think. I mean, immediately they started

1345
01:10:28,720 --> 01:10:32,479
Speaker 2: disowning Barack Obama, partially because of internalized racism on the left,

1346
01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:36,160
Speaker 2: partially because of the fact that people were being openly

1347
01:10:37,400 --> 01:10:42,439
Speaker 2: antagonistic of the president at the time, very disrespectful. They

1348
01:10:42,479 --> 01:10:46,760
Speaker 2: didn't do anything to give him the backing that be

1349
01:10:46,880 --> 01:10:49,160
Speaker 2: the bully president. They claimed they wanted him to beat

1350
01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:53,840
Speaker 2: you know, blue dog Democrats were sabotaging him. It was

1351
01:10:53,880 --> 01:10:57,680
Speaker 2: a whole lot of bullshit, Like did he underestimate the

1352
01:10:57,800 --> 01:10:59,200
Speaker 2: resistance to him?

1353
01:11:00,120 --> 01:11:02,519
Speaker 3: Yeah? Sure, but so did most of America.

1354
01:11:04,320 --> 01:11:07,200
Speaker 2: Mostly most of the people that even supported him were

1355
01:11:07,240 --> 01:11:08,919
Speaker 2: not ready for that level of vitri'all.

1356
01:11:09,280 --> 01:11:11,559
Speaker 3: And to revise it, like I said, that revision is history.

1357
01:11:11,560 --> 01:11:13,719
Speaker 3: To go back and pretend that we were is stupid.

1358
01:11:14,479 --> 01:11:16,840
Speaker 2: A lot of people felt he was a unifier. A

1359
01:11:16,880 --> 01:11:19,519
Speaker 2: lot of people felt that he was the rational adult

1360
01:11:19,560 --> 01:11:20,960
Speaker 2: in the room. He was going to be the one

1361
01:11:20,960 --> 01:11:23,120
Speaker 2: that talked to People's gonna be the one to start

1362
01:11:23,160 --> 01:11:26,000
Speaker 2: these conversations and change shit. A lot of people had

1363
01:11:26,040 --> 01:11:28,840
Speaker 2: those emotional attackiness to him. Now I'm not saying I did,

1364
01:11:29,280 --> 01:11:32,280
Speaker 2: but I recognize I'm an outlier with most political shit.

1365
01:11:32,360 --> 01:11:36,040
Speaker 3: I'm not really I'm pretty pragmatic. You know.

1366
01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:38,840
Speaker 2: I think a lot of shit's gonna go wrong. You know,

1367
01:11:38,880 --> 01:11:40,920
Speaker 2: I honestly was like, I hope he just don't die.

1368
01:11:41,479 --> 01:11:43,240
Speaker 2: To be honest, that's what my bar was.

1369
01:11:43,600 --> 01:11:44,439
Speaker 4: You mind too.

1370
01:11:45,360 --> 01:11:46,160
Speaker 3: It feels like a.

1371
01:11:46,080 --> 01:11:48,200
Speaker 2: Long time ago and like it's a fact of life.

1372
01:11:48,200 --> 01:11:49,719
Speaker 2: Now we can just say that shit. But I still

1373
01:11:49,720 --> 01:11:53,360
Speaker 2: think about that shit every day. So all that to say, Man,

1374
01:11:54,360 --> 01:11:57,400
Speaker 2: it's easy to revise it, but it's skipping over a

1375
01:11:57,439 --> 01:11:59,719
Speaker 2: whole lot of people that didn't want his help.

1376
01:12:00,200 --> 01:12:02,280
Speaker 3: And then going, well, why didn't he make it, make

1377
01:12:02,320 --> 01:12:05,320
Speaker 3: them see that they needed his help? They didn't want it?

1378
01:12:05,360 --> 01:12:08,200
Speaker 2: Dog, Like, what do you do when somebody don't want it?

1379
01:12:08,240 --> 01:12:10,559
Speaker 2: Bernie Sanders didn't even really fuck with Obama like that,

1380
01:12:10,720 --> 01:12:12,519
Speaker 2: Like what are y'all talking about?

1381
01:12:12,680 --> 01:12:14,240
Speaker 3: It's just such a way to revise it.

1382
01:12:14,560 --> 01:12:17,439
Speaker 2: And the thing is, you definitely can't say this while

1383
01:12:17,400 --> 01:12:21,960
Speaker 2: they're supporting Bernie Sanders, because Bernie Sanders is more of

1384
01:12:23,640 --> 01:12:25,880
Speaker 2: He's more of the shit you say you hated about

1385
01:12:25,880 --> 01:12:27,320
Speaker 2: Obama than Obama was.

1386
01:12:28,400 --> 01:12:29,280
Speaker 3: Who's more about.

1387
01:12:29,040 --> 01:12:31,160
Speaker 2: Getting themselves elected than not everybody else than a guy

1388
01:12:31,160 --> 01:12:33,760
Speaker 2: that won't be part of your party, that won't raise

1389
01:12:33,800 --> 01:12:38,280
Speaker 2: money for your party, you know, Like, who are you

1390
01:12:38,360 --> 01:12:38,720
Speaker 2: doing that?

1391
01:12:40,600 --> 01:12:40,680
Speaker 4: So?

1392
01:12:41,080 --> 01:12:45,080
Speaker 2: I don't understand, man, it's to see people, and who

1393
01:12:45,080 --> 01:12:48,720
Speaker 2: do you think this is popular with? Because of the

1394
01:12:48,760 --> 01:12:52,760
Speaker 2: plan for your party is to appeal to essentially white

1395
01:12:52,840 --> 01:12:56,639
Speaker 2: liberals who are dissatisfied with the Obama era and want

1396
01:12:56,680 --> 01:12:59,280
Speaker 2: somebody even more left than Obama to come in and

1397
01:12:59,320 --> 01:13:04,080
Speaker 2: be like the leftist Trump. You are alienating the base

1398
01:13:04,360 --> 01:13:05,719
Speaker 2: of this fucking party.

1399
01:13:06,280 --> 01:13:08,479
Speaker 3: You will lose again.

1400
01:13:09,760 --> 01:13:12,000
Speaker 2: This is not how you rally people, This is not

1401
01:13:12,080 --> 01:13:15,720
Speaker 2: how you galvanize people. Bernie Sanders revolution is very much

1402
01:13:15,720 --> 01:13:20,680
Speaker 2: a revolutionary of white men, revolution of white men who

1403
01:13:20,720 --> 01:13:23,920
Speaker 2: are angry, just like Trump's revolution is white men who

1404
01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:27,200
Speaker 2: are angry. The problem is a democratic voter base is

1405
01:13:27,240 --> 01:13:32,519
Speaker 2: too brown, two women, and to you know, a bunch

1406
01:13:32,520 --> 01:13:35,240
Speaker 2: of other elements that come together, a bunch of marginalized people.

1407
01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:38,360
Speaker 2: For you to think catering and coveting only white people

1408
01:13:38,479 --> 01:13:41,720
Speaker 2: is going to bring these people along, they will not

1409
01:13:41,800 --> 01:13:44,400
Speaker 2: come along. And I've been right at every step of

1410
01:13:44,439 --> 01:13:48,320
Speaker 2: this fucking election cycle. I know I'm right about this now,

1411
01:13:48,360 --> 01:13:50,160
Speaker 2: and I don't want to hear it later when I

1412
01:13:50,200 --> 01:13:52,800
Speaker 2: don't write me arguing and shit be cause it's just

1413
01:13:52,840 --> 01:13:55,160
Speaker 2: gonna be I'm proven right later. And I'm never gonna

1414
01:13:55,160 --> 01:13:58,040
Speaker 2: get that fucking apology email either, So fuck you don't

1415
01:13:58,040 --> 01:14:01,360
Speaker 2: even send it, just saying, man, this shit is so stupid.

1416
01:14:01,400 --> 01:14:01,599
Speaker 4: Man.

1417
01:14:03,840 --> 01:14:07,120
Speaker 2: But yeah, you know, even and even I'm so sick

1418
01:14:07,320 --> 01:14:12,519
Speaker 2: of the DNC email quote unquote scandal where they keep

1419
01:14:12,520 --> 01:14:15,120
Speaker 2: trying it out where if you go read the fucking emails.

1420
01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:17,320
Speaker 3: You're like, well, this is what y'all was mad about,

1421
01:14:17,720 --> 01:14:18,240
Speaker 3: you know, like.

1422
01:14:18,200 --> 01:14:21,960
Speaker 2: They didn't go, hey, man, let's actively campaign against Bernie Sanders. Hey,

1423
01:14:22,080 --> 01:14:25,560
Speaker 2: let's not provide him the resources that we are dutifully

1424
01:14:25,600 --> 01:14:28,920
Speaker 2: called to do. Uh, let's not like they didn't sabotage him.

1425
01:14:28,920 --> 01:14:32,240
Speaker 2: The only thing they stated was in interpersonal emails with

1426
01:14:32,280 --> 01:14:35,880
Speaker 2: each other, like basically, this nigga is the worst, right,

1427
01:14:36,439 --> 01:14:36,720
Speaker 2: But it.

1428
01:14:36,800 --> 01:14:39,639
Speaker 3: Was never in any action taken against them everything.

1429
01:14:39,920 --> 01:14:42,040
Speaker 2: Even at one point they can they like consider like

1430
01:14:42,080 --> 01:14:43,000
Speaker 2: maybe we should do this.

1431
01:14:43,520 --> 01:14:46,559
Speaker 3: No, don't. To me, that is.

1432
01:14:47,920 --> 01:14:51,280
Speaker 2: Uh, that is self checking yourself, That is making sure

1433
01:14:51,600 --> 01:14:54,800
Speaker 2: that there won't be any bias or anything done. Because

1434
01:14:54,800 --> 01:14:57,760
Speaker 2: to me, if the if a private not private, but

1435
01:14:57,840 --> 01:15:01,040
Speaker 2: I guess an email between two people is the extent

1436
01:15:01,120 --> 01:15:03,240
Speaker 2: of well, they didn't like him, you know what, a

1437
01:15:03,280 --> 01:15:05,280
Speaker 2: lot of people didn't like them, And y'all didn't have

1438
01:15:05,280 --> 01:15:07,280
Speaker 2: a problem with emails when people don't like Hillary Clint,

1439
01:15:07,360 --> 01:15:09,439
Speaker 2: y'all have a problem with that kind of shit. But

1440
01:15:09,520 --> 01:15:12,680
Speaker 2: this dude tried to usurp a whole fucking party for himself,

1441
01:15:13,080 --> 01:15:15,880
Speaker 2: a party that he's never belonged to. He simply switched

1442
01:15:15,880 --> 01:15:19,519
Speaker 2: the allegiances just to try to usurp control in twenty sixteen,

1443
01:15:19,760 --> 01:15:21,400
Speaker 2: and then immediately as soon as the race is over,

1444
01:15:21,479 --> 01:15:23,600
Speaker 2: hop back out so he can continue to play the

1445
01:15:23,680 --> 01:15:28,200
Speaker 2: outsider when this motherfucker is a complete pillar of Washington.

1446
01:15:28,560 --> 01:15:30,640
Speaker 3: Like there, you don't get more into Mernie Sanders.

1447
01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:32,840
Speaker 2: I wouldn't be shocked to be voted for Trump, to

1448
01:15:32,840 --> 01:15:35,800
Speaker 2: be honest, the way he talked like, I don't see

1449
01:15:35,800 --> 01:15:38,240
Speaker 2: any difference because he seems to be doing a lot

1450
01:15:38,240 --> 01:15:40,200
Speaker 2: of bad pedaling to make sure that people that voted

1451
01:15:40,240 --> 01:15:42,519
Speaker 2: for Trump don't feel bad or guilty about it. And

1452
01:15:42,600 --> 01:15:44,280
Speaker 2: to me, that's a night that's a mark of a

1453
01:15:44,320 --> 01:15:46,920
Speaker 2: guilty conscience of a person that knows that their ideology

1454
01:15:47,240 --> 01:15:49,200
Speaker 2: is not that fucking club far from Trump.

1455
01:15:49,960 --> 01:15:52,280
Speaker 3: That's like, your voters ain't bad, I take them.

1456
01:15:52,320 --> 01:15:56,000
Speaker 2: Of course you would give me Hillary saying that the

1457
01:15:56,040 --> 01:15:59,519
Speaker 2: motherfuckers were deplorable. That was the realty, and ain't nobody

1458
01:15:59,520 --> 01:16:01,799
Speaker 2: want to hear it? But that shit is the truth,

1459
01:16:02,120 --> 01:16:04,280
Speaker 2: and it's been proven every day since eleven six.

1460
01:16:05,040 --> 01:16:07,120
Speaker 3: But yeah, man, fuck that shit. Man.

1461
01:16:07,160 --> 01:16:10,200
Speaker 2: I don't know what Ellison is thinking, just because, like

1462
01:16:10,240 --> 01:16:12,519
Speaker 2: I said, even if it was true, it's still stupid

1463
01:16:12,560 --> 01:16:15,520
Speaker 2: to say, because it's untenable.

1464
01:16:15,520 --> 01:16:17,519
Speaker 3: You will never be more popular than Barack Obama.

1465
01:16:18,200 --> 01:16:20,120
Speaker 2: You will never get the vast majority of people that

1466
01:16:20,120 --> 01:16:25,000
Speaker 2: support Democrats. And to abandon Barack Obama for your vision

1467
01:16:25,080 --> 01:16:27,120
Speaker 2: or what Democrats should be. You're not gonna get it

1468
01:16:27,120 --> 01:16:29,360
Speaker 2: to happen, and you're not gonna get nowhere being critical

1469
01:16:29,400 --> 01:16:31,880
Speaker 2: to do. To be honest, it would just be very

1470
01:16:32,680 --> 01:16:36,800
Speaker 2: pragmatically realistic about the situation the Democratic Party is in

1471
01:16:36,920 --> 01:16:41,160
Speaker 2: right now. You're gonna need Barack Obama and his advocacy

1472
01:16:41,520 --> 01:16:45,840
Speaker 2: more so than you're gonna need Bernie Sanders. Just telling you,

1473
01:16:46,600 --> 01:16:53,080
Speaker 2: but keep playing the game, man. Yeah, Perez and Sanders

1474
01:16:53,120 --> 01:16:55,719
Speaker 2: are currently on a unity tour and the energizing liberals

1475
01:16:55,720 --> 01:16:58,720
Speaker 2: in opposition to Trump and healing lingering party divided from

1476
01:16:58,760 --> 01:17:02,040
Speaker 2: the primary. Yeah, okay, one that doesn't mention race or

1477
01:17:02,840 --> 01:17:05,120
Speaker 2: a gender, all this other shit.

1478
01:17:06,640 --> 01:17:08,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just about the economy.

1479
01:17:08,240 --> 01:17:10,680
Speaker 2: Ain't no unity if you don't see people, man, you

1480
01:17:10,680 --> 01:17:14,120
Speaker 2: can't have unity. Like his whole idea the economy. We'll

1481
01:17:14,160 --> 01:17:18,639
Speaker 2: fix it and they'll bring unity. No, because economic challenges

1482
01:17:18,680 --> 01:17:20,240
Speaker 2: and hurdles are different for different people.

1483
01:17:21,040 --> 01:17:23,000
Speaker 3: So and there's a reason to it. And if you

1484
01:17:23,040 --> 01:17:25,360
Speaker 3: don't address it in your platform, then you're useless.

1485
01:17:26,040 --> 01:17:26,320
Speaker 4: Uh.

1486
01:17:26,680 --> 01:17:28,439
Speaker 2: Anyway, we'll see if they get their heads out of

1487
01:17:28,479 --> 01:17:31,880
Speaker 2: the ass. I'm just kind of hoping, Uh, Sanders does

1488
01:17:31,880 --> 01:17:33,960
Speaker 2: before twenty twenty, and we can move on with this shit,

1489
01:17:35,080 --> 01:17:38,160
Speaker 2: because that's the only thing that's gonna stop white people,

1490
01:17:38,240 --> 01:17:42,439
Speaker 2: is they really need. Yeah, that's that's the only thing

1491
01:17:42,439 --> 01:17:47,759
Speaker 2: I can think of as stop them. All right, let's

1492
01:17:47,760 --> 01:17:50,280
Speaker 2: get into some fucking black people.

1493
01:17:50,320 --> 01:18:03,599
Speaker 3: Guys. Uh, here we go. We're just fucking with those

1494
01:18:03,600 --> 01:18:06,599
Speaker 3: black people. Were just fucking with those blacks. We're just

1495
01:18:06,760 --> 01:18:11,400
Speaker 3: fucking with fucking with black people. That's right, guys. It's

1496
01:18:11,400 --> 01:18:13,400
Speaker 3: time to play the game, and we all hate to play.

1497
01:18:13,439 --> 01:18:15,640
Speaker 3: It's fucking with black people the game. We go all

1498
01:18:15,640 --> 01:18:16,000
Speaker 3: the way to go.

1499
01:18:16,160 --> 01:18:17,920
Speaker 2: We find different articles make us feel fucked with when

1500
01:18:17,960 --> 01:18:19,800
Speaker 2: we scoring from zero two one hundred intervals of twenty

1501
01:18:19,800 --> 01:18:22,640
Speaker 2: five for how much we do feel fucked with as

1502
01:18:22,680 --> 01:18:27,360
Speaker 2: black people, today's contestants, everybody, you know, everybody loved this.

1503
01:18:28,320 --> 01:18:32,559
Speaker 3: Uh, let's get into it, guys. Okay, let's see.

1504
01:18:32,400 --> 01:18:36,040
Speaker 2: Who's back in the news. Oh, and Becky is back

1505
01:18:36,080 --> 01:18:41,960
Speaker 2: in the news. Rachel dollars out. You know, she changed

1506
01:18:42,000 --> 01:18:48,920
Speaker 2: her name. Karen is already disapproving. Well, she's back in

1507
01:18:48,960 --> 01:18:50,120
Speaker 2: the news, is what I'm trying to say.

1508
01:18:50,120 --> 01:18:54,080
Speaker 3: Guys. All right, she took she's you know, she's.

1509
01:18:53,920 --> 01:18:59,400
Speaker 2: Promoting her book, and she took that shit her whole

1510
01:19:00,680 --> 01:19:02,360
Speaker 2: transracial mm hmm.

1511
01:19:02,840 --> 01:19:05,320
Speaker 3: She took that stick to Africa.

1512
01:19:09,560 --> 01:19:15,640
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. She went to Africa to tell them negroes

1513
01:19:15,720 --> 01:19:19,080
Speaker 2: about some racism and about being black, what it's really like,

1514
01:19:19,320 --> 01:19:21,000
Speaker 2: the real hot tea.

1515
01:19:21,439 --> 01:19:24,559
Speaker 4: And you know what, I know this is fucked up,

1516
01:19:24,600 --> 01:19:27,840
Speaker 4: but I don't care. I hope they hope there's throw

1517
01:19:27,960 --> 01:19:29,040
Speaker 4: spears at her ass.

1518
01:19:29,439 --> 01:19:31,880
Speaker 2: That's you can't be racist while trying to not be

1519
01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:33,439
Speaker 2: right to be against racism.

1520
01:19:33,520 --> 01:19:36,000
Speaker 3: Karen, that's a racial stereotype.

1521
01:19:36,760 --> 01:19:40,320
Speaker 2: Now everybody in U sense is this now? Everybody Africa's

1522
01:19:40,360 --> 01:19:41,040
Speaker 2: throw spears car.

1523
01:19:41,240 --> 01:19:46,160
Speaker 5: That's that. I knew it before I said the comment.

1524
01:19:46,240 --> 01:19:47,920
Speaker 5: That's why I did a p s A.

1525
01:19:48,040 --> 01:19:51,640
Speaker 2: Okay, Well that does not really fix anything. Does not

1526
01:19:51,760 --> 01:19:56,479
Speaker 2: with that statement. That is still wrong. And people, you're

1527
01:19:56,479 --> 01:19:58,120
Speaker 2: gonna right up here, don't a tribute that ship to

1528
01:19:58,160 --> 01:19:59,840
Speaker 2: me because I didn't say it and I don't agree

1529
01:19:59,880 --> 01:20:03,879
Speaker 2: with Okay, that's for caring. American race faker Rachel Dolozau

1530
01:20:03,960 --> 01:20:06,479
Speaker 2: has returned to the limelight with her first ever visit

1531
01:20:06,560 --> 01:20:09,200
Speaker 2: to Africa on a first alver on an election tour

1532
01:20:09,280 --> 01:20:11,919
Speaker 2: about race, a move which has been met with outrage,

1533
01:20:11,960 --> 01:20:13,360
Speaker 2: calls for a boycotton.

1534
01:20:12,880 --> 01:20:13,559
Speaker 3: And string of scating.

1535
01:20:13,560 --> 01:20:18,000
Speaker 2: The memes police flank Miss Dolzoo's first keynote event after

1536
01:20:18,000 --> 01:20:20,479
Speaker 2: a hostile meeting with mostly black students who objected to

1537
01:20:20,479 --> 01:20:24,000
Speaker 2: her insistence that she had an authentic black identity despite

1538
01:20:24,040 --> 01:20:28,040
Speaker 2: admitting to being biological white biologically white. The thirty nine

1539
01:20:28,080 --> 01:20:30,599
Speaker 2: year old who has been labeled as an ethnic fraud

1540
01:20:30,920 --> 01:20:34,479
Speaker 2: after passing herself off at so much shadiness my love

1541
01:20:34,520 --> 01:20:36,639
Speaker 2: it as a black woman for more than a decade,

1542
01:20:36,720 --> 01:20:40,080
Speaker 2: recently took a Nigerian name to make herself sound more authentic.

1543
01:20:40,439 --> 01:20:43,839
Speaker 2: The shamed black activist who now calls herself in Kichi

1544
01:20:43,920 --> 01:20:48,720
Speaker 2: Amari Diallo outraged her young black audience in Johannesburg after

1545
01:20:48,760 --> 01:20:51,479
Speaker 2: equating her claim to being trans black with the transgender

1546
01:20:51,520 --> 01:20:52,599
Speaker 2: experience of Kaitlyn Jenner.

1547
01:20:53,680 --> 01:20:55,400
Speaker 3: The thing is, she was invited over by.

1548
01:20:55,320 --> 01:21:01,280
Speaker 2: A pastor or somebody, and my question is this does

1549
01:21:01,439 --> 01:21:03,360
Speaker 2: And the pastor was like, we need to hear her

1550
01:21:03,360 --> 01:21:06,920
Speaker 2: out being trans black, that's like being transgender. But do

1551
01:21:07,000 --> 01:21:10,719
Speaker 2: you think that passing past that pastor supports transgender rights?

1552
01:21:11,400 --> 01:21:13,360
Speaker 3: I would bet that he.

1553
01:21:12,800 --> 01:21:17,879
Speaker 2: Says, I don't support transgender rights, and I'm only using

1554
01:21:17,920 --> 01:21:22,720
Speaker 2: her to somehow mock the transgender community in a way

1555
01:21:22,720 --> 01:21:24,519
Speaker 2: to be like, well, if y'all okay with Disney, y'all

1556
01:21:24,520 --> 01:21:26,200
Speaker 2: should be okay with you know that kind of shit.

1557
01:21:26,680 --> 01:21:27,880
Speaker 3: I still identify as black.

1558
01:21:27,920 --> 01:21:30,520
Speaker 2: Maybe trans black is a good compromise because it identifies

1559
01:21:30,560 --> 01:21:32,439
Speaker 2: that I was born to white parents would have authentic

1560
01:21:32,479 --> 01:21:35,000
Speaker 2: black identity. She assisted as students of the University of

1561
01:21:35,080 --> 01:21:38,760
Speaker 2: Johannesburg to to that loudly and shook the ads in disbelief.

1562
01:21:39,479 --> 01:21:41,000
Speaker 2: The mother of three, who has been forced to make

1563
01:21:41,080 --> 01:21:43,479
Speaker 2: ends meet by braiding hair after failing to get work

1564
01:21:43,520 --> 01:21:45,439
Speaker 2: so she was outed as a white woman two years ago,

1565
01:21:45,800 --> 01:21:48,080
Speaker 2: was invited to South Africa by a retired Black bishop

1566
01:21:48,120 --> 01:21:53,599
Speaker 2: who wholeheartedly supports her extraordinary claims. Clyde rama Leanne told

1567
01:21:54,200 --> 01:21:56,120
Speaker 2: Mail on Line he backdoors, I was like to compare

1568
01:21:56,160 --> 01:21:58,960
Speaker 2: herself with transgender Kaitlyn Jenner, who want Olympic Lori while

1569
01:21:59,000 --> 01:22:00,760
Speaker 2: she was still known as Bruce, and argue that there

1570
01:22:00,800 --> 01:22:02,200
Speaker 2: was an other fairness in the way that two have

1571
01:22:02,280 --> 01:22:02,839
Speaker 2: been treated.

1572
01:22:03,160 --> 01:22:05,880
Speaker 3: I find it amazing that Bruce Jenner.

1573
01:22:08,640 --> 01:22:11,240
Speaker 2: Can't be celebrated on the cover of Vality Fair magazine

1574
01:22:11,560 --> 01:22:14,479
Speaker 2: yet no one has ever said to him, but you

1575
01:22:14,560 --> 01:22:17,160
Speaker 2: just see people, all those years you were in the

1576
01:22:17,200 --> 01:22:20,320
Speaker 2: male locker room, you slept with women, He said, BINGO,

1577
01:22:20,479 --> 01:22:23,479
Speaker 2: I knew it. I fucking knew it. Motherfucker. Don't care

1578
01:22:23,479 --> 01:22:26,840
Speaker 2: about I know Caitlyn Jenner. It's all to me to

1579
01:22:26,880 --> 01:22:27,920
Speaker 2: be like, look at this.

1580
01:22:27,920 --> 01:22:28,599
Speaker 3: This is a mockery.

1581
01:22:28,640 --> 01:22:31,080
Speaker 2: There's a side show, there's a circus act, and I'm

1582
01:22:31,080 --> 01:22:34,040
Speaker 2: gonna use it also to promote trans antagonism.

1583
01:22:34,360 --> 01:22:34,720
Speaker 3: That's all.

1584
01:22:34,760 --> 01:22:38,520
Speaker 4: It was taking on seriously that yeah, you a clown.

1585
01:22:38,200 --> 01:22:41,760
Speaker 2: Show, right, And her dumb ass went over there like

1586
01:22:41,760 --> 01:22:44,000
Speaker 2: a stupid idiot and got cussed the fuck out, which

1587
01:22:44,040 --> 01:22:45,559
Speaker 2: I'm all here for her getting cussed out.

1588
01:22:45,600 --> 01:22:46,320
Speaker 3: I don't give a fuck.

1589
01:22:46,360 --> 01:22:48,960
Speaker 2: I'll read every article about her getting cussed out like

1590
01:22:49,000 --> 01:22:50,800
Speaker 2: people was like, don't share no more articles like m

1591
01:22:51,160 --> 01:22:53,599
Speaker 2: anytime somebody serve her ass, I'm gonna be right here

1592
01:22:54,240 --> 01:22:56,960
Speaker 2: cheering like Serena winning another Grand Slam. I don't give

1593
01:22:56,960 --> 01:22:59,080
Speaker 2: a fuck. I can watch her get roasted for the

1594
01:22:59,160 --> 01:22:59,840
Speaker 2: rest of her life.

1595
01:23:00,120 --> 01:23:02,640
Speaker 3: This what is this? What the final fifteen minutes gonna be?

1596
01:23:02,680 --> 01:23:06,160
Speaker 3: I'm with this. Every time she around some black people,

1597
01:23:06,160 --> 01:23:08,599
Speaker 3: I'll be like, hear me here, let's get cue this up.

1598
01:23:09,800 --> 01:23:10,240
Speaker 3: He went on.

1599
01:23:10,400 --> 01:23:13,000
Speaker 2: No one accuses Bruce Jenner living a lot or calling

1600
01:23:13,280 --> 01:23:16,400
Speaker 2: him a fraud. He is celebrated for his bravery and

1601
01:23:16,479 --> 01:23:19,760
Speaker 2: being truthful about his identity. Yet Rachel is vilified as

1602
01:23:19,760 --> 01:23:22,680
Speaker 2: treats a parride, accused a lie about who she really was.

1603
01:23:22,960 --> 01:23:24,960
Speaker 2: She is chosen to self define and that's her right.

1604
01:23:25,200 --> 01:23:27,240
Speaker 2: Can we just live with who she wants to be?

1605
01:23:27,320 --> 01:23:30,559
Speaker 2: I embrace Rachel, she defines herself. She don't embrace Kaitlyn

1606
01:23:30,640 --> 01:23:36,520
Speaker 2: because you don't call her Caitlyn, right, like the irony,

1607
01:23:36,800 --> 01:23:39,439
Speaker 2: oh Man, people ain't shit man.

1608
01:23:40,439 --> 01:23:42,680
Speaker 3: The fact that she knows that she is being used

1609
01:23:42,680 --> 01:23:43,880
Speaker 3: as a weapon.

1610
01:23:44,400 --> 01:23:51,559
Speaker 2: Against against transgender people and just don't care. That's the

1611
01:23:51,600 --> 01:23:54,240
Speaker 2: whitest shit you've ever That's the whitest shit you could be.

1612
01:23:55,160 --> 01:23:59,280
Speaker 2: She's so white, She's fucking neon white. She's fucking glow

1613
01:23:59,360 --> 01:24:03,400
Speaker 2: in the dark white. She's the moon on a fucking

1614
01:24:03,880 --> 01:24:04,559
Speaker 2: clear night.

1615
01:24:04,640 --> 01:24:05,000
Speaker 3: White.

1616
01:24:05,200 --> 01:24:08,080
Speaker 2: Like there's this is the it's so white to just

1617
01:24:08,120 --> 01:24:12,280
Speaker 2: be like and now I decided I'm black? Oh Man, anyway,

1618
01:24:13,479 --> 01:24:20,800
Speaker 2: zero twe hundred, Oh, it's still ye hundred. I won't

1619
01:24:20,800 --> 01:24:22,519
Speaker 2: read any details of her book because I don't really

1620
01:24:22,560 --> 01:24:26,439
Speaker 2: give a fuck, but I will read them roastings. Oh

1621
01:24:26,560 --> 01:24:28,880
Speaker 2: and the Stranger had an interview when she got interviewed

1622
01:24:28,880 --> 01:24:33,240
Speaker 2: by this I believe she's a you know, I don't

1623
01:24:33,240 --> 01:24:35,400
Speaker 2: know for sure, but I think she's an African woman

1624
01:24:35,439 --> 01:24:38,040
Speaker 2: who lives in the United States. And the Stranger is

1625
01:24:38,120 --> 01:24:41,240
Speaker 2: like a organ paper or something like something like the

1626
01:24:41,240 --> 01:24:51,320
Speaker 2: Seattle or something. Anyway, she interviewed Rachel Dondzill. Well, oh, okay,

1627
01:24:51,400 --> 01:24:56,120
Speaker 2: my bad. I ain't know I got to the end, Okay, yeah,

1628
01:24:56,120 --> 01:24:57,880
Speaker 2: I must have just seen somebody say Seattle, so I

1629
01:24:57,960 --> 01:24:59,880
Speaker 2: must have just went there.

1630
01:25:00,320 --> 01:25:07,839
Speaker 3: But uh, it was good. Mm hmmmm was it audio

1631
01:25:07,920 --> 01:25:09,240
Speaker 3: video to it or no?

1632
01:25:09,360 --> 01:25:12,040
Speaker 2: It's just uh, you know, just it was an interview.

1633
01:25:12,040 --> 01:25:15,960
Speaker 2: It was just an interviews like you know, uh written

1634
01:25:16,080 --> 01:25:19,160
Speaker 2: you know, written interview. All right, we should be live

1635
01:25:19,200 --> 01:25:22,040
Speaker 2: again and I will add you back to.

1636
01:25:22,000 --> 01:25:24,439
Speaker 3: The screen in a second. But yeah, it was just

1637
01:25:24,479 --> 01:25:26,679
Speaker 3: an audio interview. I mean, not audio.

1638
01:25:26,720 --> 01:25:30,639
Speaker 2: It's just a regular written interview. But she went in

1639
01:25:31,160 --> 01:25:35,080
Speaker 2: on her. And it's about fucking time.

1640
01:25:34,920 --> 01:25:37,880
Speaker 3: Because people people are gonna be like, oh, black women

1641
01:25:37,920 --> 01:25:38,400
Speaker 3: don't like her.

1642
01:25:38,400 --> 01:25:40,400
Speaker 2: They be going in over nothing and ship no, no, no, no,

1643
01:25:40,400 --> 01:25:43,080
Speaker 2: no one of the reasons that this guy as far

1644
01:25:43,120 --> 01:25:44,960
Speaker 2: as it did is because black women weren't the people

1645
01:25:45,000 --> 01:25:45,800
Speaker 2: doing the interviews.

1646
01:25:46,880 --> 01:25:49,120
Speaker 5: We just shut that ship down. She would she wouldn't

1647
01:25:49,160 --> 01:25:50,960
Speaker 5: have lasted a good minute and a half.

1648
01:25:51,080 --> 01:25:53,360
Speaker 3: Right. The only person that that was a black woman.

1649
01:25:53,160 --> 01:25:56,599
Speaker 2: That did an interview was, uh, well, there were a couple,

1650
01:25:56,720 --> 01:25:59,880
Speaker 2: but the main one is Melissa Harris Parry, And I

1651
01:26:00,479 --> 01:26:02,240
Speaker 2: mean she tanked that interview. I don't know if she

1652
01:26:02,320 --> 01:26:06,000
Speaker 2: believes she tanked the interview, but as for what people

1653
01:26:06,080 --> 01:26:08,640
Speaker 2: were expecting and people wanted to see, she tanked the

1654
01:26:08,640 --> 01:26:10,880
Speaker 2: fuck out of that interview at the time and lost

1655
01:26:10,920 --> 01:26:13,960
Speaker 2: a lot of standing with a lot of Black women

1656
01:26:14,080 --> 01:26:18,880
Speaker 2: were like, dog, you can't pull this bullshit. This is

1657
01:26:18,920 --> 01:26:24,519
Speaker 2: not an academic study for for us. This isn't about

1658
01:26:24,560 --> 01:26:28,080
Speaker 2: coddling her. This is about someone that's openly a fraud.

1659
01:26:28,280 --> 01:26:30,439
Speaker 2: You know the thing that, like I say, that always

1660
01:26:30,479 --> 01:26:32,600
Speaker 2: gets missed in on this shit, and I bring it

1661
01:26:32,680 --> 01:26:36,720
Speaker 2: up every time because people actively avoid talking about this

1662
01:26:36,800 --> 01:26:40,360
Speaker 2: because they don't because they really do I think innately

1663
01:26:40,439 --> 01:26:42,320
Speaker 2: coved white women and want to protect them, and they

1664
01:26:42,360 --> 01:26:44,320
Speaker 2: feel sorry for them, and they start talking about mental

1665
01:26:44,320 --> 01:26:46,639
Speaker 2: illness and shit. Even though she ain't been diagnosed with nothing.

1666
01:26:47,640 --> 01:26:49,479
Speaker 2: She's a fraud and a scammer and a fake. And

1667
01:26:49,479 --> 01:26:51,160
Speaker 2: people don't want to just come through and say that.

1668
01:26:52,400 --> 01:26:55,160
Speaker 2: But what's wild, and it always gets missed, is to

1669
01:26:55,360 --> 01:26:57,160
Speaker 2: faked them hate crimes.

1670
01:26:57,800 --> 01:26:59,960
Speaker 3: Dogs that stop in the first place.

1671
01:27:00,120 --> 01:27:03,000
Speaker 2: That's so goddamn dangerous, and people keep acting like it's

1672
01:27:03,040 --> 01:27:03,760
Speaker 2: no big deal.

1673
01:27:04,720 --> 01:27:07,840
Speaker 3: You know, like I can't just be white, I can't

1674
01:27:07,880 --> 01:27:08,439
Speaker 3: just be black.

1675
01:27:08,479 --> 01:27:11,560
Speaker 2: I have to be so black that people want to

1676
01:27:11,640 --> 01:27:14,360
Speaker 2: kill me even though they don't. And you got other

1677
01:27:14,400 --> 01:27:15,720
Speaker 2: black people in that community, and.

1678
01:27:15,640 --> 01:27:19,240
Speaker 5: Shit too, they going, motherfucker, I actually did get hate

1679
01:27:19,240 --> 01:27:19,920
Speaker 5: crimes against me.

1680
01:27:20,080 --> 01:27:22,200
Speaker 4: I'm actually do have fear for my life.

1681
01:27:22,160 --> 01:27:24,439
Speaker 3: Possibly, but maybe they don't. Even if they don't.

1682
01:27:24,479 --> 01:27:27,559
Speaker 2: You now created that fear, yes, you know, the fact

1683
01:27:27,560 --> 01:27:29,720
Speaker 2: that you fake something like that. Like people get mad

1684
01:27:29,720 --> 01:27:32,960
Speaker 2: at women for crying rape quote unquote that didn't get raped, right,

1685
01:27:33,080 --> 01:27:35,280
Speaker 2: Like when you find out like, oh, this person literally

1686
01:27:35,280 --> 01:27:38,240
Speaker 2: made up this sexual assault and everybody get so scared

1687
01:27:38,280 --> 01:27:40,160
Speaker 2: for the men and they and it's like we feel

1688
01:27:40,200 --> 01:27:42,519
Speaker 2: so bad and all this shit and they and then

1689
01:27:42,560 --> 01:27:44,240
Speaker 2: they start talking about you're the real problem. This is

1690
01:27:44,240 --> 01:27:46,880
Speaker 2: why people hate when women like this, why people don't

1691
01:27:46,920 --> 01:27:47,479
Speaker 2: believe women.

1692
01:27:47,479 --> 01:27:50,000
Speaker 3: They go all the way out there for that. They

1693
01:27:50,000 --> 01:27:52,360
Speaker 3: don't do that. For Rachel Dove was our fake hate crimes.

1694
01:27:53,200 --> 01:27:55,320
Speaker 2: Like I'm not even saying they're right to do it

1695
01:27:55,360 --> 01:27:57,200
Speaker 2: in the first place, but they definitely don't do that

1696
01:27:57,240 --> 01:27:59,960
Speaker 2: shit for Like, no one says, well, what about all

1697
01:28:00,120 --> 01:28:02,040
Speaker 2: real hate crimes that got ignored because of you? No

1698
01:28:02,080 --> 01:28:05,080
Speaker 2: one says that. Everybody just goes, look, she I never

1699
01:28:05,120 --> 01:28:07,360
Speaker 2: heard anything bad about it until this happened. So I

1700
01:28:07,400 --> 01:28:10,120
Speaker 2: don't know why blah blah blah instead of yeah, that's

1701
01:28:10,120 --> 01:28:12,600
Speaker 2: pretty fucking dangerous because y'all found out Jesse Jackson was

1702
01:28:12,600 --> 01:28:14,920
Speaker 2: taking a crime, y'all niggas would be like, get him

1703
01:28:14,960 --> 01:28:15,840
Speaker 2: the fuck up out of here.

1704
01:28:16,640 --> 01:28:17,760
Speaker 3: So yeah, man, I.

1705
01:28:17,720 --> 01:28:23,519
Speaker 2: Can't it's anyway. But yeah, that other interview on the Stranger,

1706
01:28:23,640 --> 01:28:26,559
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't have a link right now. I'm trying.

1707
01:28:27,400 --> 01:28:31,479
Speaker 2: Maybe I can find her something, but uh, nigga, I'm

1708
01:28:31,520 --> 01:28:35,080
Speaker 2: talking about she brought it. She brought I was reading

1709
01:28:35,080 --> 01:28:37,120
Speaker 2: that shit with some popcorn.

1710
01:28:38,080 --> 01:28:38,679
Speaker 3: Some wine.

1711
01:28:39,160 --> 01:28:42,240
Speaker 2: I was like, get her ass, man, I don't. I

1712
01:28:42,240 --> 01:28:43,040
Speaker 2: don't mind when.

1713
01:28:42,880 --> 01:28:46,040
Speaker 5: She got are but a tired from the beginning. Everybody

1714
01:28:46,080 --> 01:28:48,360
Speaker 5: else gave her the attention and that was the problem.

1715
01:28:48,920 --> 01:28:52,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like and then more than just attention, it's like

1716
01:28:52,040 --> 01:28:57,880
Speaker 2: they tried to justify and find some angle where you know,

1717
01:28:58,400 --> 01:29:00,559
Speaker 2: it was okay what she would was doing.

1718
01:29:01,160 --> 01:29:03,800
Speaker 3: And that was the part that was so fucking frustrating

1719
01:29:03,800 --> 01:29:06,479
Speaker 3: to me. You know, it's like, really, we couldn't have

1720
01:29:06,640 --> 01:29:07,680
Speaker 3: just talked about.

1721
01:29:07,400 --> 01:29:11,000
Speaker 4: This and said chat if you can't find it.

1722
01:29:11,320 --> 01:29:14,880
Speaker 2: I'm googling it right now when we're talking. But yeah,

1723
01:29:14,960 --> 01:29:19,920
Speaker 2: it's yeah, y'all, like you literally could have and the

1724
01:29:19,960 --> 01:29:21,960
Speaker 2: things you had white people doing it. Yeah, white people

1725
01:29:21,960 --> 01:29:25,799
Speaker 2: making a decision, and that's why that shit sucked.

1726
01:29:25,800 --> 01:29:26,320
Speaker 3: Man.

1727
01:29:26,960 --> 01:29:32,760
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, okay, here you go.

1728
01:29:33,640 --> 01:29:34,640
Speaker 3: I found a link to it.

1729
01:29:35,280 --> 01:29:35,479
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1730
01:29:35,640 --> 01:29:38,960
Speaker 2: The Jezebel is like, this ship so good, h it's

1731
01:29:39,000 --> 01:29:40,880
Speaker 2: so good we never have to think about her again.

1732
01:29:41,000 --> 01:29:43,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was like an ending to me reading that ship.

1733
01:29:44,080 --> 01:29:45,960
Speaker 2: But then she made it even better by going to Africa,

1734
01:29:45,960 --> 01:29:47,960
Speaker 2: and I said, ooh good, cuts her ass out in

1735
01:29:48,280 --> 01:29:53,360
Speaker 2: different languages too, like telling black people, how what your

1736
01:29:53,880 --> 01:29:56,200
Speaker 2: the fact that she even feels that she that her

1737
01:29:56,240 --> 01:30:00,639
Speaker 2: story is for to inform black people, tell me what's

1738
01:30:00,680 --> 01:30:01,200
Speaker 2: whiter than that?

1739
01:30:01,280 --> 01:30:01,599
Speaker 3: Y'all?

1740
01:30:02,760 --> 01:30:04,400
Speaker 2: Like it wasn't like and now I'm gonna use my

1741
01:30:04,439 --> 01:30:07,040
Speaker 2: story to educate white people on how stupid racism is.

1742
01:30:07,360 --> 01:30:07,719
Speaker 4: No.

1743
01:30:07,720 --> 01:30:09,680
Speaker 3: Now, I'm gonna tell you negros how you need to

1744
01:30:09,680 --> 01:30:13,200
Speaker 3: be acting. Yeah.

1745
01:30:13,320 --> 01:30:15,679
Speaker 2: See, I don't pronounce it wrong, but I believe it's.

1746
01:30:15,840 --> 01:30:19,960
Speaker 2: Egoma oh Lou is the author of this and it's

1747
01:30:19,960 --> 01:30:25,280
Speaker 2: called the Heart of Whiteness. Joma Alu oh Lou interviews

1748
01:30:25,360 --> 01:30:27,799
Speaker 2: Rachel dollars out, a white woman who identifies as black,

1749
01:30:28,920 --> 01:30:32,519
Speaker 2: and it's very long, like I can't read it all here,

1750
01:30:33,120 --> 01:30:35,160
Speaker 2: but she talks about like how she got a painting

1751
01:30:35,200 --> 01:30:35,799
Speaker 2: in our house.

1752
01:30:35,880 --> 01:30:40,360
Speaker 3: They got like four different shades of her.

1753
01:30:41,200 --> 01:30:43,120
Speaker 2: And she's like, yeah, because people always tell me I

1754
01:30:43,160 --> 01:30:45,439
Speaker 2: could be They don't care if I'm blue, red, green,

1755
01:30:45,560 --> 01:30:49,240
Speaker 2: whatever a. You know, I'm gonna read it. Fuck it,

1756
01:30:49,760 --> 01:30:52,559
Speaker 2: fuck it man, y'all. Get y'all wind out, okay, like

1757
01:30:54,280 --> 01:30:58,280
Speaker 2: I'll you know, fuck it, man, I had such a

1758
01:30:58,280 --> 01:30:59,200
Speaker 2: good time reading it.

1759
01:30:59,280 --> 01:31:01,200
Speaker 3: I just want to pay you community, y'all.

1760
01:31:01,320 --> 01:31:03,120
Speaker 2: I'll stick tired of here about her, And I understand

1761
01:31:03,200 --> 01:31:04,479
Speaker 2: skip the whole rest of the show if you don't

1762
01:31:04,520 --> 01:31:07,120
Speaker 2: want to hear I get it, But I ain't.

1763
01:31:06,880 --> 01:31:08,200
Speaker 3: Sick of hearing her get roasted.

1764
01:31:08,240 --> 01:31:11,000
Speaker 2: This shit was too good to me. I'm sitting across

1765
01:31:11,000 --> 01:31:15,320
Speaker 2: the from Rachel dolarz Islan. She looks white, not a

1766
01:31:15,360 --> 01:31:20,000
Speaker 2: little white, not racheally ambiguous. Dolozol looks really, really white.

1767
01:31:20,439 --> 01:31:22,719
Speaker 2: She looks like a white woman with a mild sun

1768
01:31:22,760 --> 01:31:26,479
Speaker 2: tan in box braids, like perhaps she'd just gotten back

1769
01:31:26,520 --> 01:31:29,960
Speaker 2: from a Caribbean vacation and decided to keep the hairstyle

1770
01:31:30,120 --> 01:31:34,640
Speaker 2: for a few days for fun. She's also smaller than

1771
01:31:34,640 --> 01:31:37,639
Speaker 2: I expected, tiny, even even in her wedge heels and jeans.

1772
01:31:37,840 --> 01:31:40,640
Speaker 2: I'm six feet tall and fat. I wonder for a

1773
01:31:40,680 --> 01:31:43,400
Speaker 2: moment what this conversation might look like to bos standers

1774
01:31:43,439 --> 01:31:46,120
Speaker 2: if things were to get heated. A giant black woman

1775
01:31:46,200 --> 01:31:49,960
Speaker 2: interrogating a tiny white woman. Everything about Dolazal is smaller

1776
01:31:50,000 --> 01:31:53,439
Speaker 2: than expected. The tiny house she rents, the limited and

1777
01:31:53,640 --> 01:31:58,840
Speaker 2: very used furniture, her sorry it's the sheet is so good.

1778
01:32:00,040 --> 01:32:02,720
Speaker 2: I mean, not just the fact that she said interrogating

1779
01:32:02,720 --> 01:32:05,519
Speaker 2: a tiny white woman. She's not acknowledging or giving any

1780
01:32:05,640 --> 01:32:09,960
Speaker 2: room to this facade of her being black. Everything about

1781
01:32:09,960 --> 01:32:13,400
Speaker 2: those okay, so her one year old son titles in

1782
01:32:13,400 --> 01:32:16,120
Speaker 2: front of cartoons playing on a small television, the only

1783
01:32:16,160 --> 01:32:18,000
Speaker 2: thing of real size in the house seems to be

1784
01:32:18,000 --> 01:32:22,400
Speaker 2: a painting of her adopted brother and now adopted son, Isaiah,

1785
01:32:23,000 --> 01:32:26,160
Speaker 2: from when he was a child. The painting looms over

1786
01:32:26,200 --> 01:32:28,599
Speaker 2: Dolah's oul on the living room while as she begins

1787
01:32:28,640 --> 01:32:30,880
Speaker 2: to talk. I try to get my bearings and listen

1788
01:32:30,960 --> 01:32:32,599
Speaker 2: to what she's trying to say. But for the first

1789
01:32:32,600 --> 01:32:35,479
Speaker 2: few moments, my mind keeps repeating, how in the hell

1790
01:32:35,520 --> 01:32:38,240
Speaker 2: did I get here? I did not want to think

1791
01:32:38,280 --> 01:32:41,960
Speaker 2: about it, talk about, or write about Rachel dolarz Ou ever.

1792
01:32:42,040 --> 01:32:42,320
Speaker 3: Again.

1793
01:32:42,720 --> 01:32:45,280
Speaker 2: While many people have been highly entertained by the story

1794
01:32:45,280 --> 01:32:47,679
Speaker 2: of a woman who passed herself off for more almost

1795
01:32:47,720 --> 01:32:50,040
Speaker 2: a decade as a black woman, even rising to the

1796
01:32:50,080 --> 01:32:53,160
Speaker 2: head of the spok chapter of the NAACP before being

1797
01:32:53,280 --> 01:32:56,439
Speaker 2: outed quote unquote during a TV interview by k XL

1798
01:32:56,560 --> 01:32:59,680
Speaker 2: Y reporter Jeff Humphrey as white, as later confirmed by

1799
01:32:59,680 --> 01:33:00,639
Speaker 2: her wife, I.

1800
01:33:00,560 --> 01:33:02,720
Speaker 3: Found a little amusement in her continued spotlight.

1801
01:33:02,960 --> 01:33:05,240
Speaker 2: When the story first broke in June twenty fifteen, I

1802
01:33:05,320 --> 01:33:07,200
Speaker 2: was approached by more editors in a week than I

1803
01:33:07,200 --> 01:33:09,880
Speaker 2: had heard from in two months. They were all looking

1804
01:33:09,920 --> 01:33:12,519
Speaker 2: for fresh takes on the Dolozou scandal from the very

1805
01:33:12,560 --> 01:33:15,679
Speaker 2: people whose identity had now been put up for debate

1806
01:33:15,800 --> 01:33:19,200
Speaker 2: black women. I wrote two pieces on Dolasou for two

1807
01:33:19,240 --> 01:33:21,519
Speaker 2: different websites, mostly focused not on her, but on the

1808
01:33:21,600 --> 01:33:24,320
Speaker 2: lack of understanding of black women's identity that was causing

1809
01:33:24,360 --> 01:33:26,919
Speaker 2: the conversation about dolaz Hou to become more and more painfully,

1810
01:33:26,960 --> 01:33:30,599
Speaker 2: so painful for so many black women. After a few

1811
01:33:30,640 --> 01:33:33,800
Speaker 2: weeks of media obsession, I and most other Black women

1812
01:33:33,840 --> 01:33:37,080
Speaker 2: I knew was completely done with Rachel Dolarzou, or at

1813
01:33:37,160 --> 01:33:39,720
Speaker 2: least I hoped to be right. After turning in a

1814
01:33:39,800 --> 01:33:42,440
Speaker 2: draft of my book on race at the end of February,

1815
01:33:42,479 --> 01:33:44,519
Speaker 2: I went to a theater to do an on stage

1816
01:33:44,520 --> 01:33:47,479
Speaker 2: interview on race and intersectionality, a mode of thinking that

1817
01:33:47,520 --> 01:33:50,640
Speaker 2: intersects identities and systems of social oppression and domination.

1818
01:33:51,000 --> 01:33:52,000
Speaker 3: But before going on.

1819
01:33:52,000 --> 01:33:55,679
Speaker 2: Stage, my phone buzzed with a news alert Rachel Dolozout

1820
01:33:55,680 --> 01:33:57,759
Speaker 2: had changed her name. I quickly glanced at the article

1821
01:33:57,800 --> 01:34:00,439
Speaker 2: and saw that Dolarzou had changed her name to in

1822
01:34:00,560 --> 01:34:05,160
Speaker 2: Kichi Yamaria Amari Diallo. My job dropped in disbelief. In

1823
01:34:05,240 --> 01:34:08,960
Speaker 2: Keichi is my sister's name, my visibly black sister born

1824
01:34:09,000 --> 01:34:12,519
Speaker 2: and raised in Nigeria. Dolazao claim the name change was

1825
01:34:12,520 --> 01:34:14,519
Speaker 2: to make it easier for her to get a job,

1826
01:34:14,600 --> 01:34:17,280
Speaker 2: because the scandal had made it so nobody in eastern

1827
01:34:17,360 --> 01:34:20,280
Speaker 2: Washington Town or Spokane population two hundred and ten thousand

1828
01:34:20,680 --> 01:34:23,280
Speaker 2: would look at an application with the name Rachel.

1829
01:34:23,040 --> 01:34:23,880
Speaker 3: Dolozoo on it.

1830
01:34:24,800 --> 01:34:27,800
Speaker 2: I'm gonna pause here so we can recognize the obsurdity

1831
01:34:27,800 --> 01:34:28,840
Speaker 2: of this claim.

1832
01:34:29,360 --> 01:34:30,919
Speaker 3: You change your name from Rachel.

1833
01:34:30,720 --> 01:34:33,960
Speaker 2: Dolozou to in Keichi Amari Diallo because everyone in your

1834
01:34:34,000 --> 01:34:36,840
Speaker 2: lily white town Spokane is more than eighty percent white,

1835
01:34:37,240 --> 01:34:40,680
Speaker 2: now knows you as Rachel Dolozao who was pretending to

1836
01:34:40,720 --> 01:34:43,080
Speaker 2: be black. So you change your name to in Kichi

1837
01:34:43,120 --> 01:34:47,599
Speaker 2: Amari Diallo because somehow they won't know who you are.

1838
01:34:47,680 --> 01:34:51,280
Speaker 2: Then maybe they'll just confuse you with all the other

1839
01:34:51,360 --> 01:34:55,120
Speaker 2: in kichi Amari Diallo's in Spokane and not think when

1840
01:34:55,120 --> 01:34:57,679
Speaker 2: a white woman shows up for the interview, Oh yeah,

1841
01:34:57,920 --> 01:35:00,120
Speaker 2: it's that white woman who pretended to be black, and

1842
01:35:00,160 --> 01:35:04,080
Speaker 2: then change her name to n kichi Amari Diallo. Also,

1843
01:35:04,760 --> 01:35:07,879
Speaker 2: even if there were fifty in kech Amri Diallo's in Spokane,

1844
01:35:07,960 --> 01:35:11,280
Speaker 2: trust me as someone named ijiama o'lu i.

1845
01:35:11,360 --> 01:35:13,280
Speaker 3: Hope I'm pronounced the name right. I'm sorry.

1846
01:35:13,280 --> 01:35:15,439
Speaker 2: If I'm not who grew up in a white Seattle

1847
01:35:15,560 --> 01:35:18,439
Speaker 2: suburb of Lynwood, You'd have a much better chance of

1848
01:35:18,479 --> 01:35:22,360
Speaker 2: getting a job interview if you change your name to Sarah, right.

1849
01:35:23,320 --> 01:35:24,680
Speaker 3: Right right.

1850
01:35:25,400 --> 01:35:27,240
Speaker 2: By the time I finished my interview on that rainey

1851
01:35:27,280 --> 01:35:29,880
Speaker 2: February day, myself phone indicated that I had a voicemail.

1852
01:35:30,200 --> 01:35:32,280
Speaker 2: It was the Stranger asking if I would spend a

1853
01:35:32,360 --> 01:35:34,400
Speaker 2: day with Rachel dolars out for two years, I, like

1854
01:35:34,520 --> 01:35:37,000
Speaker 2: many other black women who talk are right about racial justice,

1855
01:35:37,200 --> 01:35:39,439
Speaker 2: have tried to avoid Rachel Dolar's out. She follows us

1856
01:35:39,439 --> 01:35:41,599
Speaker 2: wherever we go, so if I couldn't get away from her,

1857
01:35:41,680 --> 01:35:43,280
Speaker 2: I was gonna at least try to figure out why

1858
01:35:43,360 --> 01:35:46,320
Speaker 2: I surprised myself by agreeing to the interview. I began

1859
01:35:46,439 --> 01:35:48,280
Speaker 2: to get nervous as an interview day approached. By the

1860
01:35:48,360 --> 01:35:50,160
Speaker 2: time I bought her to plane the Spokane, which is

1861
01:35:50,200 --> 01:35:52,000
Speaker 2: a one hour flight from Seattle and it's near the

1862
01:35:52,040 --> 01:35:55,000
Speaker 2: border of Idaho, a state that's almost ninety percent white,

1863
01:35:55,160 --> 01:35:57,799
Speaker 2: I was half sure that this interview was my worst career.

1864
01:35:57,640 --> 01:35:58,320
Speaker 3: Decision to date.

1865
01:35:58,479 --> 01:36:01,759
Speaker 2: Initially, I hoped that my research on Dolahsau would reassure

1866
01:36:01,840 --> 01:36:04,240
Speaker 2: me that there was a way to find real value

1867
01:36:04,280 --> 01:36:06,160
Speaker 2: in this conversation, that there would be a way to

1868
01:36:06,280 --> 01:36:08,640
Speaker 2: actually turn this circus into a productive discussion on.

1869
01:36:08,720 --> 01:36:13,280
Speaker 3: Race in America. But then I read her book Ah.

1870
01:36:14,560 --> 01:36:16,840
Speaker 2: Shortly after I announced the deal from my first book,

1871
01:36:16,880 --> 01:36:19,480
Speaker 2: a primer on how we could have more productive conversations

1872
01:36:19,520 --> 01:36:21,559
Speaker 2: on race, a friend posted a link on my Facebook

1873
01:36:21,600 --> 01:36:23,960
Speaker 2: page with a joking comment along the lines of oh no,

1874
01:36:24,479 --> 01:36:25,840
Speaker 2: looks like Rachel beat you to it.

1875
01:36:26,280 --> 01:36:27,400
Speaker 3: She linked to an article.

1876
01:36:27,920 --> 01:36:30,679
Speaker 2: She linked to an article announcing that Rachel Dolarsau would

1877
01:36:30,720 --> 01:36:33,320
Speaker 2: also be publishing her first book on race in full color,

1878
01:36:33,400 --> 01:36:35,960
Speaker 2: Finding My Place in a Black and White World. Throughout

1879
01:36:36,000 --> 01:36:38,640
Speaker 2: the week, at least five other friends sent me a

1880
01:36:38,720 --> 01:36:40,519
Speaker 2: similar link with similar comments.

1881
01:36:40,880 --> 01:36:43,080
Speaker 3: A look through my social media feed shows that I

1882
01:36:43,200 --> 01:36:43,759
Speaker 3: was not alone.

1883
01:36:43,800 --> 01:36:46,000
Speaker 2: Black women writers around the country were all being sent

1884
01:36:46,120 --> 01:36:48,840
Speaker 2: links to articles on Dolarsau's book, Deal, the memoir of

1885
01:36:48,920 --> 01:36:51,799
Speaker 2: a Black woman who chose fame not being.

1886
01:36:51,720 --> 01:36:55,240
Speaker 3: Actually black, who's claim to fame was not actually in black.

1887
01:36:55,320 --> 01:36:55,479
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1888
01:36:55,680 --> 01:36:57,519
Speaker 2: Now here's the thing I will mention to say about this.

1889
01:36:58,280 --> 01:37:00,719
Speaker 2: People often say to black women like, why don't.

1890
01:37:00,520 --> 01:37:02,000
Speaker 3: You just ignore? Just ignore it?

1891
01:37:02,080 --> 01:37:02,439
Speaker 4: You can?

1892
01:37:02,960 --> 01:37:05,920
Speaker 2: How do you ignore someone when people are actively sending

1893
01:37:05,960 --> 01:37:08,919
Speaker 2: you this shit because they're like, look at this ridiculous bullshit,

1894
01:37:09,120 --> 01:37:11,000
Speaker 2: be cause there's a lot of people that are outraged

1895
01:37:11,040 --> 01:37:13,320
Speaker 2: by And if you don't care about it, then just

1896
01:37:13,360 --> 01:37:15,640
Speaker 2: don't care when people respond to it as well. Just

1897
01:37:15,720 --> 01:37:18,760
Speaker 2: don't ever care, like, don't try to hop in to

1898
01:37:18,880 --> 01:37:25,280
Speaker 2: protect this white woman on something like y'all care? Yeah, yeah, yes,

1899
01:37:25,439 --> 01:37:28,240
Speaker 2: people care because it's fucking annoying. And do you care

1900
01:37:28,280 --> 01:37:31,559
Speaker 2: about your favorite football team? Do you care about your

1901
01:37:31,560 --> 01:37:34,000
Speaker 2: favorite basketball team? Do you care about your favorite sport

1902
01:37:34,240 --> 01:37:36,880
Speaker 2: like your favorite comic book character? Somebody ar you with

1903
01:37:36,960 --> 01:37:39,479
Speaker 2: me about Captain America this morning? You care when you

1904
01:37:39,640 --> 01:37:43,639
Speaker 2: care this and Captain America don't affect my fucking world view,

1905
01:37:43,680 --> 01:37:47,479
Speaker 2: like I ain't never felt threatened or erased by Captain America.

1906
01:37:48,080 --> 01:37:51,200
Speaker 2: Motherfuckers do use Rachel dollars out as a culdgel against

1907
01:37:51,240 --> 01:37:54,519
Speaker 2: black women. They often say your activism doesn't count. They

1908
01:37:54,600 --> 01:37:57,400
Speaker 2: try to upgrade her activism. They try to put i've

1909
01:37:57,439 --> 01:37:59,840
Speaker 2: seen her compare to the people who create it and

1910
01:38:00,160 --> 01:38:01,200
Speaker 2: lead the movement.

1911
01:38:00,960 --> 01:38:04,439
Speaker 3: For black lives? What are we talking about? Because she's

1912
01:38:04,479 --> 01:38:06,960
Speaker 3: a white woman. That's why overrating her?

1913
01:38:07,120 --> 01:38:08,840
Speaker 2: You know, it's like that great thing that ass on

1914
01:38:08,920 --> 01:38:14,280
Speaker 2: the curve, but for activism, like stop anyway, do you

1915
01:38:14,400 --> 01:38:16,479
Speaker 2: mind if I fold laundry while we talk, then we'll

1916
01:38:16,520 --> 01:38:19,080
Speaker 2: go down to dark studio, to the art studio later

1917
01:38:19,439 --> 01:38:21,360
Speaker 2: and look at some of my work, Dolozoul says to me.

1918
01:38:21,439 --> 01:38:23,559
Speaker 2: After I arriving her home. The laundry basket is already

1919
01:38:23,560 --> 01:38:26,840
Speaker 2: sitting in front of the fireplace ledge. Dolos Out takes

1920
01:38:26,880 --> 01:38:29,240
Speaker 2: a seat and begins folding while I dig my notebook

1921
01:38:29,280 --> 01:38:29,600
Speaker 2: out of my.

1922
01:38:29,600 --> 01:38:32,559
Speaker 3: Backpack and set up my recorder. The scene is eerily normal.

1923
01:38:32,880 --> 01:38:34,160
Speaker 2: The woman who has been at the center of a

1924
01:38:34,200 --> 01:38:36,479
Speaker 2: controversy that has captivated the country for two years is

1925
01:38:36,520 --> 01:38:40,120
Speaker 2: doing chores and lovingly soothing her toddler after he falls

1926
01:38:40,200 --> 01:38:42,599
Speaker 2: down while trying to pick up a toy. Dolos Out asked,

1927
01:38:42,680 --> 01:38:44,720
Speaker 2: almost defensively, if I read her book, and when I

1928
01:38:44,760 --> 01:38:48,000
Speaker 2: say yes, she looks visibly relieved. And you think when

1929
01:38:48,000 --> 01:38:50,560
Speaker 2: she was folding clothes, she actually put her colors in

1930
01:38:50,680 --> 01:38:53,320
Speaker 2: with her whites when she watched them, like, I hope.

1931
01:38:53,160 --> 01:38:57,479
Speaker 3: They get all blended together. I hate whites. Put some

1932
01:38:57,520 --> 01:38:59,679
Speaker 3: bleach in here with these colors. Let's get it popping.

1933
01:39:00,160 --> 01:39:01,160
Speaker 3: You will get it popping.

1934
01:39:01,520 --> 01:39:05,599
Speaker 2: Te Die shirts everywhere when the den of the television set,

1935
01:39:05,720 --> 01:39:07,960
Speaker 2: with the din of the television set playing in the background,

1936
01:39:08,000 --> 01:39:10,800
Speaker 2: or with the occasional interruptions for her busy title of

1937
01:39:10,880 --> 01:39:12,200
Speaker 2: Dola's Island, I began talking.

1938
01:39:13,280 --> 01:39:14,840
Speaker 3: She has just returned from New York City. What she

1939
01:39:14,920 --> 01:39:15,920
Speaker 3: has done rounds.

1940
01:39:15,960 --> 01:39:18,400
Speaker 2: During the media tour for her book, appearing on Facebook Live,

1941
01:39:18,479 --> 01:39:20,599
Speaker 2: interview with New York Times, and giving interviews the Vice

1942
01:39:20,640 --> 01:39:23,240
Speaker 2: in the Today Show. She is currently jobless and spends

1943
01:39:23,240 --> 01:39:25,599
Speaker 2: her days looking after her sons, ferrying them to school

1944
01:39:25,640 --> 01:39:28,240
Speaker 2: and appointments. She brais hair for cash and is still

1945
01:39:28,280 --> 01:39:30,200
Speaker 2: looking for work. Her rental houses a month to month.

1946
01:39:30,320 --> 01:39:30,599
Speaker 3: Leafs.

1947
01:39:31,360 --> 01:39:33,880
Speaker 2: Hopefully after the book released and this round the media,

1948
01:39:33,920 --> 01:39:36,400
Speaker 2: maybe everyone's question the curiosities will be satisfied and then

1949
01:39:36,400 --> 01:39:38,719
Speaker 2: I can reintegrate into society, she says, with a smile,

1950
01:39:39,680 --> 01:39:43,439
Speaker 2: like that's what she wants. We visit Lolas our studio.

1951
01:39:43,640 --> 01:39:46,920
Speaker 2: She is, in our honesty, a very very talented painter.

1952
01:39:47,280 --> 01:39:50,000
Speaker 2: The majority of her paintings feature Black people. Other than

1953
01:39:50,040 --> 01:39:53,200
Speaker 2: the paintings of her children. Most of the black people

1954
01:39:53,240 --> 01:39:54,599
Speaker 2: depicted the pill to be dressed as.

1955
01:39:54,560 --> 01:40:03,479
Speaker 3: Slaves or tribes people extreme choice black people slaves and dropsy.

1956
01:40:03,920 --> 01:40:06,080
Speaker 2: Breaking this pattern was a series of portraits hanging on

1957
01:40:06,280 --> 01:40:09,960
Speaker 2: the wall of dolars out herself. They were done Warhol

1958
01:40:10,160 --> 01:40:12,719
Speaker 2: war hollstyle, like each painting duplicated a different color.

1959
01:40:12,920 --> 01:40:14,120
Speaker 3: Dozala's plains and the me.

1960
01:40:14,520 --> 01:40:16,640
Speaker 2: You know, people are always saying to me, Rachel, I

1961
01:40:16,680 --> 01:40:18,400
Speaker 2: don't care if you're red, green, blue, or purple.

1962
01:40:18,439 --> 01:40:20,360
Speaker 3: So I decided to paint myself as red, green, blue,

1963
01:40:20,439 --> 01:40:20,800
Speaker 3: or purple.

1964
01:40:21,240 --> 01:40:23,639
Speaker 2: Those our chuckles that she says this as if it's

1965
01:40:23,640 --> 01:40:27,160
Speaker 2: the most clever and original idea anybody ever had. I

1966
01:40:27,200 --> 01:40:29,040
Speaker 2: don't know how many times a white person has told

1967
01:40:29,080 --> 01:40:30,880
Speaker 2: me they don't care if I'm red, green, blue, or

1968
01:40:30,920 --> 01:40:33,160
Speaker 2: purple when they are trying to explain to me just

1969
01:40:33,240 --> 01:40:37,320
Speaker 2: how not racist they are. I've lost count. I do

1970
01:40:37,600 --> 01:40:41,479
Speaker 2: know that I rolled my eyes every time as my

1971
01:40:41,600 --> 01:40:44,559
Speaker 2: brother Ali made foule. I hope I'll pronounce that right

1972
01:40:44,600 --> 01:40:47,439
Speaker 2: and if not, sorry, said to me once they may

1973
01:40:47,520 --> 01:40:49,519
Speaker 2: not care if I'm red or green, or blue or purple,

1974
01:40:49,800 --> 01:40:50,160
Speaker 2: but they.

1975
01:40:50,080 --> 01:40:52,200
Speaker 3: Sure's haircut it on black right.

1976
01:40:53,240 --> 01:40:56,000
Speaker 2: I asked her specifically about the problematic sections of the book,

1977
01:40:56,080 --> 01:40:58,960
Speaker 2: explaining that her discriptions are falling in love with blackness

1978
01:40:59,040 --> 01:41:01,519
Speaker 2: based on a National gear Graphic and Sports Illustrated seemed

1979
01:41:01,520 --> 01:41:04,120
Speaker 2: fetishizing to me as a black person. As a kid,

1980
01:41:04,160 --> 01:41:07,120
Speaker 2: I say, I remember National Geographic being something that we

1981
01:41:07,280 --> 01:41:10,120
Speaker 2: used to mock me, that that was used to mock

1982
01:41:10,240 --> 01:41:12,479
Speaker 2: me regularly. A lot of images of black people in

1983
01:41:12,560 --> 01:41:16,040
Speaker 2: National geo Geographic have been credibly fetishizing over the years.

1984
01:41:16,600 --> 01:41:19,720
Speaker 2: Is there a reason why you chose the language that

1985
01:41:19,800 --> 01:41:22,240
Speaker 2: you chose, Because, honestly, if anybody came up to me

1986
01:41:22,320 --> 01:41:25,040
Speaker 2: and said that first encounter with blackness was through National

1987
01:41:25,120 --> 01:41:28,040
Speaker 2: Geographic and they loved it, I would end the conversation immediately.

1988
01:41:28,720 --> 01:41:29,840
Speaker 3: Those our scenes offended.

1989
01:41:29,840 --> 01:41:31,479
Speaker 2: I would even ask that reminded me that she was

1990
01:41:31,520 --> 01:41:34,320
Speaker 2: writing about her experience with blackness as a child, Well,

1991
01:41:34,360 --> 01:41:37,240
Speaker 2: my older brothers was fetishizing black women in National Geographic,

1992
01:41:37,320 --> 01:41:39,800
Speaker 2: she says, looking at me curiously as she falls closed,

1993
01:41:39,800 --> 01:41:41,880
Speaker 2: And I talk about that in the book. I felt

1994
01:41:41,960 --> 01:41:45,479
Speaker 2: my gaze was more humanizing and more of again black

1995
01:41:45,479 --> 01:41:46,920
Speaker 2: ast beautiful, black as inspirational.

1996
01:41:47,000 --> 01:41:49,200
Speaker 3: I had a different gaze than he did. I understand

1997
01:41:49,280 --> 01:41:50,920
Speaker 3: National Geographic has been exploitative.

1998
01:41:50,960 --> 01:41:53,280
Speaker 2: I understand that, but as a five or eight year

1999
01:41:53,280 --> 01:41:55,559
Speaker 2: old child looking at images of people, you're not looking

2000
01:41:55,640 --> 01:41:58,800
Speaker 2: at what a doctoral degree of sociology and anthropology and

2001
01:41:58,840 --> 01:42:02,800
Speaker 2: parceling this stuff. Part, you're just you're looking at representations

2002
01:42:02,840 --> 01:42:04,800
Speaker 2: of the human experience. And to try, I try to

2003
01:42:04,840 --> 01:42:07,200
Speaker 2: clarify that it is the fact that she thinks her

2004
01:42:07,240 --> 01:42:11,280
Speaker 2: connection to blackness represented via national geographic no matter how inspirational,

2005
01:42:11,600 --> 01:42:15,479
Speaker 2: could be authentic, is itself the problem. But you are

2006
01:42:15,520 --> 01:42:18,240
Speaker 2: looking at representations crafted by white supremacy. I mean, it's

2007
01:42:18,280 --> 01:42:20,920
Speaker 2: not actually black people you're looking at, just like when

2008
01:42:20,960 --> 01:42:23,240
Speaker 2: people are watching TV, dollars I says in her defense.

2009
01:42:23,560 --> 01:42:25,360
Speaker 3: Then she seems to remember the interview.

2010
01:42:25,800 --> 01:42:29,200
Speaker 2: Is in what she bragged that growing up without television

2011
01:42:29,240 --> 01:42:31,960
Speaker 2: saved from viewing blackness through a white lens, and her

2012
01:42:32,040 --> 01:42:32,599
Speaker 2: tone changes.

2013
01:42:32,640 --> 01:42:35,280
Speaker 3: It sounds almost bitter in that sense.

2014
01:42:35,360 --> 01:42:38,160
Speaker 2: Maybe I wasn't entirely sheltered from the whole propaganda, she says,

2015
01:42:38,400 --> 01:42:42,479
Speaker 2: she sighs or whatever. There was a moment before meeting

2016
01:42:42,520 --> 01:42:44,040
Speaker 2: dolohs out and reading her book that I thought she

2017
01:42:44,160 --> 01:42:46,280
Speaker 2: genuinely loves black people, but took it a little too far.

2018
01:42:46,400 --> 01:42:47,960
Speaker 3: But now I can see that as not the case.

2019
01:42:48,240 --> 01:42:49,840
Speaker 3: That is not a this is not a love.

2020
01:42:49,800 --> 01:42:52,439
Speaker 2: Gonna mad something else, something even sinister is at work

2021
01:42:52,479 --> 01:42:55,200
Speaker 2: in her relationship and understanding the blackness. There's a chapter

2022
01:42:55,240 --> 01:42:58,280
Speaker 2: where she compares herself to black slaves. Dolos out describe

2023
01:42:58,360 --> 01:43:00,680
Speaker 2: selling crafts to buy new clothes, and she compares her

2024
01:43:00,760 --> 01:43:03,560
Speaker 2: quest to a craft her way into new clothes with

2025
01:43:03,720 --> 01:43:07,360
Speaker 2: chattle slavery. When I asked her what she has to

2026
01:43:07,360 --> 01:43:09,360
Speaker 2: say to people who might be offended by her comparison

2027
01:43:09,520 --> 01:43:13,320
Speaker 2: comparing herself to slaves those I was indignant, almost to exasperation.

2028
01:43:13,439 --> 01:43:14,679
Speaker 3: She is done folding clothes.

2029
01:43:15,240 --> 01:43:18,240
Speaker 2: I'm not comparing the struggles, okay, because I never said

2030
01:43:18,320 --> 01:43:19,479
Speaker 2: that my life was the same.

2031
01:43:19,560 --> 01:43:21,439
Speaker 3: I never said that it was the equivalent of slavery

2032
01:43:21,520 --> 01:43:22,280
Speaker 3: or chattle slavery.

2033
01:43:22,600 --> 01:43:25,800
Speaker 2: I did work and brought all my clothes, all clothes

2034
01:43:25,800 --> 01:43:27,640
Speaker 2: and shoes as I was nine years old. That's not

2035
01:43:27,720 --> 01:43:30,920
Speaker 2: a typical American childhood. Like she said, I worked very hard,

2036
01:43:31,000 --> 01:43:34,120
Speaker 2: but I didn't resonate with white women who were born

2037
01:43:34,200 --> 01:43:36,479
Speaker 2: with a silver spoon. I didn't find a sentence of

2038
01:43:36,680 --> 01:43:39,400
Speaker 2: connection in those stories, or connection with the story of

2039
01:43:39,520 --> 01:43:41,479
Speaker 2: princess who was looking for a night and shine in

2040
01:43:41,560 --> 01:43:42,080
Speaker 2: our armor.

2041
01:43:43,640 --> 01:43:47,040
Speaker 3: Well, I don't know, man, couldn't. Wasn't that the story

2042
01:43:47,080 --> 01:43:50,519
Speaker 3: for Cinderella. I mean she was working hard with the clothes.

2043
01:43:51,240 --> 01:43:55,800
Speaker 2: Okay, even still, Mama, there's no stories of white people

2044
01:43:55,880 --> 01:43:57,800
Speaker 2: working hard for and being poor guys.

2045
01:43:58,760 --> 01:44:00,519
Speaker 3: She almost fits out the last sentences.

2046
01:44:00,800 --> 01:44:03,200
Speaker 2: I'm beginning to wonder if it isn't blackness that Dolazau

2047
01:44:03,240 --> 01:44:06,040
Speaker 2: doesn't understand, but whiteness, because growing up poor on a

2048
01:44:06,120 --> 01:44:10,240
Speaker 2: family farm in Montana being homeschool by fundamentalist Christian parents

2049
01:44:10,320 --> 01:44:14,439
Speaker 2: doesn't sound I mean, by fundamentalist Christian parents sounds whiter

2050
01:44:14,880 --> 01:44:18,400
Speaker 2: than this silver spoon whiteness she claims to be rejecting. Dolohs,

2051
01:44:18,439 --> 01:44:20,920
Speaker 2: I feel she is different from others who would genuinely

2052
01:44:20,960 --> 01:44:25,240
Speaker 2: compare her their hardships to slavery. But those people are

2053
01:44:25,320 --> 01:44:28,320
Speaker 2: not aware, they haven't been black history professor, she says,

2054
01:44:28,360 --> 01:44:31,680
Speaker 2: with a voice trembling with the indignation. Oh okay, well,

2055
01:44:31,680 --> 01:44:33,160
Speaker 2: as long as you did that, and I guess you

2056
01:44:33,240 --> 01:44:35,839
Speaker 2: can say it with slavery. I want to remind Dolzeu

2057
01:44:35,920 --> 01:44:38,400
Speaker 2: she's a former black history professor who has degrees in art,

2058
01:44:38,520 --> 01:44:40,800
Speaker 2: not Black history, African history, or American history.

2059
01:44:40,840 --> 01:44:41,240
Speaker 3: But I don't.

2060
01:44:41,479 --> 01:44:43,360
Speaker 2: I'm trying not to get kicked out of her place early.

2061
01:44:44,560 --> 01:44:46,640
Speaker 2: It's only been an hour, and I still need to

2062
01:44:46,680 --> 01:44:50,280
Speaker 2: ask the question. Dolozau has argued many times that her

2063
01:44:50,320 --> 01:44:52,880
Speaker 2: insistence on the black identity will not only allow her

2064
01:44:52,880 --> 01:44:54,720
Speaker 2: to live in the culture that she says matches her

2065
01:44:54,720 --> 01:44:58,080
Speaker 2: true self, but will also help free visibly black people

2066
01:44:58,160 --> 01:45:01,000
Speaker 2: from racial oppression by her hoping to destroy the social

2067
01:45:01,040 --> 01:45:04,240
Speaker 2: construct of race. I am more than a little skeptical

2068
01:45:04,320 --> 01:45:07,439
Speaker 2: that Doloza's identity as a revolutionary strike against the myth

2069
01:45:07,479 --> 01:45:10,160
Speaker 2: of race is anything more than a practical white saviorism,

2070
01:45:10,600 --> 01:45:12,920
Speaker 2: at least when it comes to the ways in which.

2071
01:45:12,880 --> 01:45:14,080
Speaker 3: Race oppresses black people.

2072
01:45:14,479 --> 01:45:17,240
Speaker 2: Even if there were thousands of Rachel Dolozos in the country,

2073
01:45:17,680 --> 01:45:20,360
Speaker 2: would their claims of blackness do anything to open up

2074
01:45:20,360 --> 01:45:23,519
Speaker 2: the definition of whiteness to those with darker skin, courser hair,

2075
01:45:23,560 --> 01:45:26,919
Speaker 2: and racialized features. The degree to which you are excluded

2076
01:45:26,960 --> 01:45:29,639
Speaker 2: from white privileges largely dependent on the degree to which

2077
01:45:29,640 --> 01:45:33,360
Speaker 2: your appearances appearance deviates from whiteness. You can be extremely

2078
01:45:33,439 --> 01:45:35,280
Speaker 2: light skin and still be black, but you cannot be

2079
01:45:35,400 --> 01:45:38,360
Speaker 2: extremely or even moderately dark skin and be treated as white.

2080
01:45:38,560 --> 01:45:38,760
Speaker 3: Ever.

2081
01:45:39,880 --> 01:45:42,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the only reason I always find her racist

2082
01:45:42,400 --> 01:45:46,519
Speaker 2: and social construct things stupid, because, like trust if there

2083
01:45:46,680 --> 01:45:50,559
Speaker 2: was just I mean, Atlanta did it best that episode

2084
01:45:51,760 --> 01:45:53,880
Speaker 2: was It's.

2085
01:45:53,040 --> 01:45:58,000
Speaker 3: Like band b An the dude who was like, I'm

2086
01:45:58,000 --> 01:46:00,200
Speaker 3: gonna be transracial and I'm an white.

2087
01:46:01,520 --> 01:46:03,679
Speaker 2: Was the reason it was played for funny was because

2088
01:46:03,720 --> 01:46:06,120
Speaker 2: we all know in America you can't be a dark

2089
01:46:06,160 --> 01:46:08,320
Speaker 2: skinned black dude with dreads talk Madama white man.

2090
01:46:09,640 --> 01:46:10,759
Speaker 3: It's funny though, which.

2091
01:46:10,640 --> 01:46:13,360
Speaker 2: Is like this is a ridiculous point of view Like

2092
01:46:13,520 --> 01:46:17,400
Speaker 2: that pointed out the redictlessness of Rachel dolarz Ow's shit too.

2093
01:46:18,320 --> 01:46:22,479
Speaker 2: By turning herself into a very very, very very light

2094
01:46:22,560 --> 01:46:25,280
Speaker 2: skinned black woman, Dolazau open herself up to be treated

2095
01:46:25,320 --> 01:46:28,320
Speaker 2: as black by white society only to the extent that

2096
01:46:28,439 --> 01:46:30,920
Speaker 2: they can visually identify her as such, and no amount

2097
01:46:30,920 --> 01:46:33,479
Speaker 2: of visual change will provide dolas Ou with the inherited

2098
01:46:33,840 --> 01:46:37,360
Speaker 2: trauma and socioeconomic disadvantage of racial oppression in this country.

2099
01:46:38,120 --> 01:46:40,120
Speaker 2: I asked her some easy questions, but she answered them

2100
01:46:40,160 --> 01:46:44,559
Speaker 2: with increasing irritation. When we have been together for three hours,

2101
01:46:44,640 --> 01:46:46,400
Speaker 2: I feel like it's time to ask the question. It's

2102
01:46:46,400 --> 01:46:48,599
Speaker 2: the same question that other black interviewers have asked her,

2103
01:46:48,880 --> 01:46:51,400
Speaker 2: a question she seems to deeply dislike, so much that

2104
01:46:51,479 --> 01:46:53,800
Speaker 2: she complains about the question in her book, but even

2105
01:46:53,840 --> 01:46:54,479
Speaker 2: in the book, it's.

2106
01:46:54,400 --> 01:46:56,080
Speaker 3: Not a question she actually answers.

2107
01:46:56,479 --> 01:46:58,960
Speaker 2: How is her racial fluidity anything more than a function

2108
01:46:59,040 --> 01:47:02,400
Speaker 2: of her privilege as a white right. If Dolazao's identity

2109
01:47:02,479 --> 01:47:05,880
Speaker 2: only helps other people born white become black while still

2110
01:47:06,000 --> 01:47:08,679
Speaker 2: shielding them from the majority of the oppression of visible blackness,

2111
01:47:08,920 --> 01:47:11,360
Speaker 2: and does nothing to help those born black become white,

2112
01:47:11,400 --> 01:47:14,519
Speaker 2: how is this not just more white privilege. Dolazole takes

2113
01:47:14,600 --> 01:47:16,719
Speaker 2: issue with the idea racial fluid and he only travels

2114
01:47:16,760 --> 01:47:17,080
Speaker 2: one way.

2115
01:47:17,560 --> 01:47:19,280
Speaker 3: Well, I would respectfully disagree that.

2116
01:47:19,280 --> 01:47:21,240
Speaker 2: It only goes one way, she says. I mean people

2117
01:47:21,360 --> 01:47:23,120
Speaker 2: all the time who went the other way. I meet

2118
01:47:23,160 --> 01:47:25,120
Speaker 2: people all the time who went the other way. I

2119
01:47:25,200 --> 01:47:27,880
Speaker 2: meet people who have passed or identified as Latina their

2120
01:47:28,040 --> 01:47:30,680
Speaker 2: entire life, who were born to categorize as black, who

2121
01:47:30,800 --> 01:47:34,000
Speaker 2: pass white and have a black parent because that's how

2122
01:47:34,080 --> 01:47:36,280
Speaker 2: they look, or that's how they have kind of.

2123
01:47:36,280 --> 01:47:36,800
Speaker 3: Come to look.

2124
01:47:37,240 --> 01:47:40,400
Speaker 2: Stories of people of color passing for white have been

2125
01:47:40,479 --> 01:47:42,679
Speaker 2: well known since the time of slavery. Almost any person

2126
01:47:42,720 --> 01:47:45,000
Speaker 2: of color in the United States has a relative in

2127
01:47:45,120 --> 01:47:47,320
Speaker 2: the past or president who has passed for white. But

2128
01:47:47,439 --> 01:47:50,160
Speaker 2: passing was a ticket out of the worst injustices of

2129
01:47:50,320 --> 01:47:54,599
Speaker 2: racial impression, of oppression that has been open to only

2130
01:47:54,640 --> 01:47:56,559
Speaker 2: a select few. The history of passing in the United

2131
01:47:56,600 --> 01:47:59,000
Speaker 2: States is a story filled with pain and separation. It

2132
01:47:59,080 --> 01:48:01,000
Speaker 2: has never been a story of liberation in the way

2133
01:48:01,080 --> 01:48:03,240
Speaker 2: dolars I was trying to describe it. I point out

2134
01:48:03,280 --> 01:48:05,240
Speaker 2: that there's a difference between dolars OU's claim of racial

2135
01:48:05,280 --> 01:48:07,880
Speaker 2: liberation and the forced denial of race in order to

2136
01:48:08,000 --> 01:48:11,240
Speaker 2: escape oppression. I'm only bringing that up because you said

2137
01:48:11,320 --> 01:48:13,439
Speaker 2: it can only go one way, and yet it has

2138
01:48:13,520 --> 01:48:15,800
Speaker 2: still it still does go the other way. Dolars Out

2139
01:48:15,840 --> 01:48:18,320
Speaker 2: snaps as if this defense was pulled out of her

2140
01:48:18,439 --> 01:48:20,120
Speaker 2: and its limitations are my fault.

2141
01:48:20,400 --> 01:48:23,000
Speaker 3: But not only have I heard her invoke the historical.

2142
01:48:22,720 --> 01:48:25,799
Speaker 2: Passing of light skin people of color in previous interviews

2143
01:48:26,160 --> 01:48:28,320
Speaker 2: when any question about the one way street of her

2144
01:48:28,400 --> 01:48:30,920
Speaker 2: racial fluidity was brought up. She even included this argument

2145
01:48:31,000 --> 01:48:32,960
Speaker 2: in her book. She has had plenty of time to

2146
01:48:33,000 --> 01:48:34,920
Speaker 2: come up with a better answer to that question. I

2147
01:48:35,040 --> 01:48:36,680
Speaker 2: try one more time to get an answer this question,

2148
01:48:36,760 --> 01:48:38,840
Speaker 2: but from a different angle. What is the function of

2149
01:48:38,880 --> 01:48:41,240
Speaker 2: privilege of still appearing to the world as white a

2150
01:48:41,320 --> 01:48:41,840
Speaker 2: white person.

2151
01:48:41,920 --> 01:48:42,640
Speaker 3: Play into this.

2152
01:48:43,040 --> 01:48:46,280
Speaker 2: And into your identity as affiliating with black culture. Dooz

2153
01:48:46,320 --> 01:48:48,560
Speaker 2: Ouse seems the struggle for a moment before answering, I

2154
01:48:48,640 --> 01:48:50,960
Speaker 2: don't know. I guess I do have light skin, but

2155
01:48:51,120 --> 01:48:53,240
Speaker 2: I don't know that I necessarily appear to the world

2156
01:48:53,240 --> 01:48:55,960
Speaker 2: as a white person. I think that since the white uh,

2157
01:48:57,040 --> 01:48:59,440
Speaker 2: I think that since the white parents.

2158
01:48:59,200 --> 01:49:02,760
Speaker 3: Did their tea on everything. Wait did she say the

2159
01:49:02,880 --> 01:49:07,080
Speaker 3: white parents, don't you mean my white parents? Just when

2160
01:49:07,120 --> 01:49:08,040
Speaker 3: they just be my parents?

2161
01:49:08,160 --> 01:49:10,519
Speaker 2: And I think that since the white parents did that

2162
01:49:10,600 --> 01:49:13,200
Speaker 2: TV tour on every national network, some people will forever

2163
01:49:13,320 --> 01:49:15,920
Speaker 2: see me as my birth category, as a white woman.

2164
01:49:16,000 --> 01:49:18,800
Speaker 2: But people who see me as that don't really see

2165
01:49:19,120 --> 01:49:21,880
Speaker 2: see don't really see me for who I am, and

2166
01:49:22,000 --> 01:49:25,280
Speaker 2: I probably am not in a way who I am,

2167
01:49:25,400 --> 01:49:27,160
Speaker 2: and probably are not seeing me as a white woman

2168
01:49:27,240 --> 01:49:27,840
Speaker 2: in some kind.

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01:49:27,680 --> 01:49:28,479
Speaker 3: Of privileged sense.

2170
01:49:28,920 --> 01:49:33,040
Speaker 2: If that makes sense, it doesn't. I am nothing if

2171
01:49:33,120 --> 01:49:35,360
Speaker 2: not stubborn. So I clarify my questions. I mean, if

2172
01:49:35,439 --> 01:49:37,280
Speaker 2: you were walking out the street in New York, just

2173
01:49:37,320 --> 01:49:39,120
Speaker 2: as an anonymous person to a lot of people, you

2174
01:49:39,120 --> 01:49:40,920
Speaker 2: would appear as a white woman. That's a function of

2175
01:49:40,960 --> 01:49:44,040
Speaker 2: privilege to that right, the way in which you would

2176
01:49:44,040 --> 01:49:45,960
Speaker 2: be able to walk through the street, how people will

2177
01:49:46,000 --> 01:49:49,559
Speaker 2: reinteract with you, the level of services you will receive,

2178
01:49:49,680 --> 01:49:51,439
Speaker 2: your ability to get a cab, all of that will

2179
01:49:51,439 --> 01:49:54,360
Speaker 2: be impacted. Does that privilege factor in your identity? Those

2180
01:49:54,400 --> 01:49:57,040
Speaker 2: out looks at me as if my question is completely ludicrous. Well,

2181
01:49:57,080 --> 01:49:59,200
Speaker 2: I understand your questions, but once again, that's not what

2182
01:49:59,280 --> 01:50:01,120
Speaker 2: I experience. I don't experience people treat me as a

2183
01:50:01,160 --> 01:50:05,000
Speaker 2: white woman in New York or elsewhere, an anonymous white woman.

2184
01:50:05,080 --> 01:50:06,599
Speaker 3: That's what I'm trying to explain.

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01:50:06,680 --> 01:50:08,479
Speaker 2: People either treat me like a freak because I'm a

2186
01:50:08,479 --> 01:50:10,599
Speaker 2: white woman that's pretending to be black in their eyes,

2187
01:50:10,680 --> 01:50:12,160
Speaker 2: or they treat me as a light skinned black woman.

2188
01:50:12,200 --> 01:50:13,040
Speaker 3: That's how people see me.

2189
01:50:13,479 --> 01:50:15,800
Speaker 2: I'm confused as to whether Dollah's eyes claiming she's never

2190
01:50:15,920 --> 01:50:18,920
Speaker 2: seen as white because she simply recognized Rachel Dolars however

2191
01:50:19,040 --> 01:50:21,639
Speaker 2: she goes, or she doesn't look white the strangers because

2192
01:50:21,640 --> 01:50:23,519
Speaker 2: her physical appearance is not that of a white woman.

2193
01:50:24,479 --> 01:50:26,639
Speaker 2: I'm slightly shocked that this is an argument she would

2194
01:50:26,640 --> 01:50:30,559
Speaker 2: make in person. Maybe in a dusty Eastern Washington town

2195
01:50:30,680 --> 01:50:33,679
Speaker 2: like Spokane, where one where only two percent of people

2196
01:50:33,680 --> 01:50:36,080
Speaker 2: are black, something that's exotic as box brades might be

2197
01:50:36,240 --> 01:50:38,240
Speaker 2: enough to convince the locals you are not white, right,

2198
01:50:38,600 --> 01:50:41,120
Speaker 2: But I cannot imagine this working elsewhere. I'm looking right

2199
01:50:41,200 --> 01:50:43,280
Speaker 2: at her. I know what white people look like. I

2200
01:50:43,360 --> 01:50:46,400
Speaker 2: decided to say so really like if you don't say

2201
01:50:46,560 --> 01:50:48,640
Speaker 2: I'm black, because I've read a lot of interviews with

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01:50:48,720 --> 01:50:51,200
Speaker 2: other people who said when they first encountered you, people

2203
01:50:51,240 --> 01:50:53,599
Speaker 2: who work with you, they automatically assumed you were white

2204
01:50:53,640 --> 01:50:56,920
Speaker 2: until you have a certain otherwise. Vocally, I personally like,

2205
01:50:56,960 --> 01:50:58,320
Speaker 2: if I would have run across you in the street,

2206
01:50:58,320 --> 01:51:00,960
Speaker 2: I would assume you were white our side and looks

2207
01:51:01,000 --> 01:51:02,479
Speaker 2: at me as if I am truly all that is

2208
01:51:02,520 --> 01:51:04,840
Speaker 2: wrong with America. Well, I guess it's like in the

2209
01:51:04,920 --> 01:51:08,120
Speaker 2: eye of the beholder. It's obvious by then that dolars

2210
01:51:08,120 --> 01:51:09,680
Speaker 2: Ou does not like me. But I do appear to

2211
01:51:09,760 --> 01:51:11,400
Speaker 2: be alone in that feeling. I don't appear to be

2212
01:51:11,479 --> 01:51:13,960
Speaker 2: alone in that feeling. Throughout our conversation, I get the

2213
01:51:14,000 --> 01:51:16,519
Speaker 2: increasing impression for someone who claims a love blackness, Rachel

2214
01:51:16,560 --> 01:51:18,559
Speaker 2: dolars Eye has little more than contempt for many black

2215
01:51:18,600 --> 01:51:21,639
Speaker 2: people in their own black identities. The dismissive and condescend

2216
01:51:21,640 --> 01:51:24,439
Speaker 2: and attitude toward any black people who see blackness differently

2217
01:51:24,520 --> 01:51:28,000
Speaker 2: than she does is woven throughout her comments in our conversation.

2218
01:51:28,560 --> 01:51:30,680
Speaker 2: And it's not just our pettiness, it's also our lack

2219
01:51:30,720 --> 01:51:33,240
Speaker 2: of education that's preventing us from getting on Rachel dolars

2220
01:51:33,240 --> 01:51:35,440
Speaker 2: I's level of racial understanding.

2221
01:51:36,560 --> 01:51:38,160
Speaker 3: I love that she has never referred to her as

2222
01:51:38,200 --> 01:51:38,679
Speaker 3: in Kichi.

2223
01:51:39,560 --> 01:51:42,879
Speaker 2: She informs me multiple times that black people have rejected

2224
01:51:42,920 --> 01:51:45,560
Speaker 2: her because they simply haven't learned yet that racist a

2225
01:51:45,600 --> 01:51:48,720
Speaker 2: social contract construct created by white supremacists.

2226
01:51:49,720 --> 01:51:50,439
Speaker 3: That's the whitest thing.

2227
01:51:50,520 --> 01:51:52,639
Speaker 2: Ever, they still be don't know any better and don't

2228
01:51:52,640 --> 01:51:54,360
Speaker 2: want to. I've done my research. I think a lot

2229
01:51:54,400 --> 01:51:57,679
Speaker 2: of people though haven't probably read those books and maybe

2230
01:51:57,760 --> 01:51:58,200
Speaker 2: never will.

2231
01:51:58,920 --> 01:52:01,240
Speaker 3: If you really think black people.

2232
01:52:01,040 --> 01:52:05,639
Speaker 2: Are sitting around going I just didn't know it races

2233
01:52:05,760 --> 01:52:07,920
Speaker 2: or a social construct, and that's what's holding me back.

2234
01:52:08,680 --> 01:52:13,519
Speaker 2: You couldn't be more white, like, I can't imagine using

2235
01:52:13,600 --> 01:52:17,240
Speaker 2: that in any sitution. Hey, officer, I know what you think.

2236
01:52:17,320 --> 01:52:20,120
Speaker 2: You're pulling me over because because I'm a black guy

2237
01:52:20,160 --> 01:52:22,960
Speaker 2: in a nice car. I don't know how I tell

2238
01:52:22,960 --> 01:52:23,799
Speaker 2: you this, but race.

2239
01:52:23,760 --> 01:52:25,800
Speaker 3: Is a social construct and you're gonna have to.

2240
01:52:25,840 --> 01:52:26,160
Speaker 4: Let me go.

2241
01:52:26,320 --> 01:52:28,720
Speaker 3: This shit is all made up, bro, You know, like

2242
01:52:28,800 --> 01:52:29,799
Speaker 3: that's not how that works.

2243
01:52:30,640 --> 01:52:32,240
Speaker 2: I know you don't want to hire me for this job,

2244
01:52:32,280 --> 01:52:33,920
Speaker 2: but before you kick me out of this interview, let

2245
01:52:33,960 --> 01:52:37,240
Speaker 2: me just tell you, guys, race is a social construct,

2246
01:52:37,320 --> 01:52:40,400
Speaker 2: so keep that in mind when you're making your decision

2247
01:52:40,400 --> 01:52:41,240
Speaker 2: about who you're gonna hire.

2248
01:52:41,240 --> 01:52:43,839
Speaker 3: All right, guys, I point.

2249
01:52:43,680 --> 01:52:45,639
Speaker 2: Out that I'm a black woman with a political science

2250
01:52:45,680 --> 01:52:48,200
Speaker 2: degree who writes about race and culture for a living,

2251
01:52:48,240 --> 01:52:51,160
Speaker 2: who has indeed read those books. I find her blanket

2252
01:52:51,280 --> 01:52:54,040
Speaker 2: justification of racist a social construct overly simplistic.

2253
01:52:54,760 --> 01:52:56,160
Speaker 3: Race is just a social construct.

2254
01:52:56,160 --> 01:52:58,280
Speaker 2: As a result, I get quite often from white people

2255
01:52:58,520 --> 01:52:59,759
Speaker 2: who don't want to talk about.

2256
01:52:59,520 --> 01:53:00,519
Speaker 3: Black issue anymore.

2257
01:53:00,880 --> 01:53:03,599
Speaker 2: A lot of things in our society are social constructs, money,

2258
01:53:03,680 --> 01:53:06,040
Speaker 2: for example, but the impact they have on our lives

2259
01:53:06,080 --> 01:53:08,120
Speaker 2: and the rules by which they operate are very real.

2260
01:53:08,520 --> 01:53:11,559
Speaker 2: I cannot undo the evils of capitalism simply by pretending

2261
01:53:11,600 --> 01:53:14,800
Speaker 2: to be a millionaire. Yeah, you can't. Money is a

2262
01:53:14,840 --> 01:53:17,519
Speaker 2: social construct. You can't pretend that you can just live

2263
01:53:17,600 --> 01:53:20,320
Speaker 2: without it. It's clear I pushed her to the edge

2264
01:53:20,320 --> 01:53:22,280
Speaker 2: of frenzy, so I decided to discuss something about the

2265
01:53:22,320 --> 01:53:23,880
Speaker 2: book that will not push her over the edge. I

2266
01:53:23,920 --> 01:53:26,360
Speaker 2: talked to her about her forward by her adopted dad,

2267
01:53:26,439 --> 01:53:28,440
Speaker 2: Albert Wickinson Junior, is sympathetic.

2268
01:53:28,880 --> 01:53:30,840
Speaker 3: You have a community that's stuck by you through this,

2269
01:53:31,040 --> 01:53:31,360
Speaker 3: I say.

2270
01:53:31,520 --> 01:53:35,120
Speaker 2: At that point, she breaks down the Star's crime for

2271
01:53:35,200 --> 01:53:37,439
Speaker 2: a white woman who has grew up with, who has

2272
01:53:37,479 --> 01:53:40,160
Speaker 2: grown up with only a few magazines of stylelized images

2273
01:53:40,200 --> 01:53:42,839
Speaker 2: of blackness, to imagine herself in a real life black identity,

2274
01:53:42,880 --> 01:53:45,560
Speaker 2: without any lived Black experience, to turn herself into a

2275
01:53:45,600 --> 01:53:48,200
Speaker 2: black history professor without a history degree, to place uself

2276
01:53:48,200 --> 01:53:50,759
Speaker 2: at the forefront of local black society that has adopted

2277
01:53:51,280 --> 01:53:54,479
Speaker 2: that she had adopted less than a decade earlier, all

2278
01:53:54,560 --> 01:53:57,559
Speaker 2: while seeming to claim to do it better and more

2279
01:53:57,640 --> 01:54:00,360
Speaker 2: authentically than any Black person who wouldare challenge her. Well,

2280
01:54:00,800 --> 01:54:02,880
Speaker 2: that's the ultimate you can be anything success story of

2281
01:54:02,920 --> 01:54:06,320
Speaker 2: white America, another branch of manifest destiny. No wonder America

2282
01:54:06,360 --> 01:54:09,120
Speaker 2: couldn't get enough of the dolars Our story. Perhaps it

2283
01:54:09,200 --> 01:54:11,439
Speaker 2: really was that simple. I couldn't escape Rachel dolars Out

2284
01:54:11,439 --> 01:54:13,439
Speaker 2: because I can't escape white supremacy. And it is white

2285
01:54:13,439 --> 01:54:16,680
Speaker 2: supremacy that told an unhappy and outcast white woman that

2286
01:54:16,760 --> 01:54:19,360
Speaker 2: black identity was hers for the taking. It is white

2287
01:54:19,400 --> 01:54:21,559
Speaker 2: supremacy that told her that any Black people who questioned

2288
01:54:21,560 --> 01:54:24,400
Speaker 2: her were obviously uneducated and unmotivated to rise.

2289
01:54:24,280 --> 01:54:25,360
Speaker 3: To her level of wokeness.

2290
01:54:25,720 --> 01:54:28,879
Speaker 2: It is white supremacy that then elevated display of privilege

2291
01:54:28,920 --> 01:54:32,240
Speaker 2: into the dominating conversation on black female identity in America.

2292
01:54:32,520 --> 01:54:34,720
Speaker 2: It is white supremacy that decided that it was worth

2293
01:54:34,760 --> 01:54:37,560
Speaker 2: a book deal, national news coverage, and yes, even this interview,

2294
01:54:38,120 --> 01:54:40,080
Speaker 2: and with that the anger that I had toward her

2295
01:54:40,120 --> 01:54:42,320
Speaker 2: begain to melt away. Dolars ou simply a white woman

2296
01:54:42,360 --> 01:54:45,080
Speaker 2: who cannot help but center herself in all that she does,

2297
01:54:45,200 --> 01:54:48,040
Speaker 2: including her fights for racial justice, and if racial justice

2298
01:54:48,040 --> 01:54:51,000
Speaker 2: doesn't center her, she will redefine racistself in order to

2299
01:54:51,080 --> 01:54:53,240
Speaker 2: make that happen. Is a bit extreme, but it is

2300
01:54:53,320 --> 01:54:55,760
Speaker 2: in no way new for white people to take what

2301
01:54:55,840 --> 01:54:58,120
Speaker 2: they want from other culches in the name of love

2302
01:54:58,160 --> 01:55:01,839
Speaker 2: and respect, while distorting or discarding the remainder of that comfort,

2303
01:55:02,320 --> 01:55:05,200
Speaker 2: that culture for their comfort. What else is national geographic

2304
01:55:05,280 --> 01:55:07,600
Speaker 2: but a long history of this practice. Maybe, now that

2305
01:55:07,640 --> 01:55:10,160
Speaker 2: I've seen the unoriginality of it all, even with my

2306
01:55:10,320 --> 01:55:13,360
Speaker 2: sister's name that she has claimed as her own, she

2307
01:55:13,480 --> 01:55:15,920
Speaker 2: will haunt me no more and simply blending to the

2308
01:55:15,960 --> 01:55:19,400
Speaker 2: rest of white supremacy that I battle every day. Before

2309
01:55:19,400 --> 01:55:21,400
Speaker 2: I left dodos Out, I remember that my editors had

2310
01:55:21,400 --> 01:55:23,000
Speaker 2: told me to make sure the photographer got a few

2311
01:55:23,040 --> 01:55:25,360
Speaker 2: pictures of us together. We were both sitting at the

2312
01:55:25,440 --> 01:55:28,240
Speaker 2: kitchen table, which provided us an ideal photo opportunity. The

2313
01:55:28,360 --> 01:55:30,680
Speaker 2: natural light from the sliding door by the kitchen was

2314
01:55:30,720 --> 01:55:33,240
Speaker 2: great for photography, but with our current seating.

2315
01:55:33,040 --> 01:55:35,160
Speaker 3: Arrangement, that light was falling on me and leaving her

2316
01:55:35,200 --> 01:55:35,680
Speaker 3: in the shadow.

2317
01:55:37,200 --> 01:55:39,520
Speaker 2: It is a standard practice to have interviewe sit in

2318
01:55:39,560 --> 01:55:41,440
Speaker 2: the best lights, so I asked her to switch seats.

2319
01:55:41,720 --> 01:55:44,720
Speaker 2: The photographer photographer thanked me for the suggestion, and I

2320
01:55:44,760 --> 01:55:47,000
Speaker 2: stood to allow doors Out to take the chair I've

2321
01:55:47,000 --> 01:55:48,520
Speaker 2: been in doose Ou looked at me with a smirk

2322
01:55:48,560 --> 01:55:51,400
Speaker 2: and set accusing me. Then you'll look darker and I'll

2323
01:55:51,440 --> 01:55:53,080
Speaker 2: look lighter because the lights on me.

2324
01:55:53,360 --> 01:55:53,760
Speaker 3: I get it.

2325
01:55:54,480 --> 01:55:56,560
Speaker 2: I realized that, like all other black people who are

2326
01:55:56,640 --> 01:55:58,720
Speaker 2: challenged dollors Out, I have been written off as a bitter,

2327
01:55:58,800 --> 01:55:59,840
Speaker 2: petty black woman.

2328
01:56:00,400 --> 01:56:02,600
Speaker 3: She was concerned that the wrong lighting would make her

2329
01:56:02,640 --> 01:56:03,120
Speaker 3: look white.

2330
01:56:03,680 --> 01:56:05,520
Speaker 2: She could not see that there was no amount of

2331
01:56:05,600 --> 01:56:08,000
Speaker 2: lighting that would make her look whiter than the interaction had.

2332
01:56:10,120 --> 01:56:12,040
Speaker 2: Perhaps that itself was a secret to the power, the

2333
01:56:12,080 --> 01:56:14,600
Speaker 2: dolar's out phenomenon, the overwhelming whiteness of it all.

2334
01:56:16,360 --> 01:56:21,360
Speaker 3: Whoo, thank you, that was you did the law's work

2335
01:56:21,400 --> 01:56:23,440
Speaker 3: over there. I appreciate that article.

2336
01:56:23,840 --> 01:56:27,120
Speaker 2: Shout out to And then she went on Twitter later

2337
01:56:27,280 --> 01:56:32,360
Speaker 2: and Egiama and explain like this why you need black editors,

2338
01:56:32,400 --> 01:56:33,800
Speaker 2: This is why you need black writers, this is why

2339
01:56:33,840 --> 01:56:36,360
Speaker 2: you need people that in positions of power diesel, because

2340
01:56:36,440 --> 01:56:39,000
Speaker 2: this is an interview that I've seen so many people

2341
01:56:39,600 --> 01:56:42,840
Speaker 2: be like thank you. Finally, like why did it take

2342
01:56:42,880 --> 01:56:45,080
Speaker 2: two years to get someone to sit down in the

2343
01:56:45,160 --> 01:56:48,240
Speaker 2: room with her that wasn't on that bullshit that was black.

2344
01:56:48,320 --> 01:56:51,320
Speaker 2: That was like, No, I'm not here too bad to

2345
01:56:51,400 --> 01:56:52,880
Speaker 2: you and be mean to you, but I'm here to

2346
01:56:52,960 --> 01:56:56,480
Speaker 2: ask you these questions that you keep avoiding and that

2347
01:56:56,560 --> 01:56:59,080
Speaker 2: people keep letting you slide on like their real answers

2348
01:56:59,120 --> 01:57:00,640
Speaker 2: when you're not answering these questions.

2349
01:57:00,960 --> 01:57:01,920
Speaker 3: And I'm not here to be.

2350
01:57:02,360 --> 01:57:04,680
Speaker 2: Amused by the phenomenon of it, which is what we

2351
01:57:04,840 --> 01:57:08,640
Speaker 2: got on like so many publications, so many Today shows,

2352
01:57:08,680 --> 01:57:10,840
Speaker 2: and shit, they're just amused. They're just like, oh, look

2353
01:57:10,880 --> 01:57:12,600
Speaker 2: at this poor It's like look at this kitting and

2354
01:57:12,680 --> 01:57:14,920
Speaker 2: thinks as a dog like that's how they treat her,

2355
01:57:15,400 --> 01:57:18,680
Speaker 2: which is not the proper I don't think it's a

2356
01:57:18,760 --> 01:57:21,680
Speaker 2: proper amount of levity that needs to be given to

2357
01:57:21,960 --> 01:57:24,800
Speaker 2: the situation at hand. And I mean no offense, but

2358
01:57:25,600 --> 01:57:28,080
Speaker 2: many black mail journalists let people down.

2359
01:57:28,160 --> 01:57:29,120
Speaker 3: Man. They fail.

2360
01:57:29,200 --> 01:57:31,400
Speaker 2: They fail a hook line of syncer into the it's

2361
01:57:31,440 --> 01:57:34,960
Speaker 2: a distraction, what about this? Why y'all mad about that

2362
01:57:35,120 --> 01:57:38,000
Speaker 2: when we when this could be happening everything other than

2363
01:57:38,080 --> 01:57:41,360
Speaker 2: to be like this is why this is stupid, because

2364
01:57:41,360 --> 01:57:44,120
Speaker 2: they'll break down some other stupid shit, you know, like

2365
01:57:44,320 --> 01:57:47,240
Speaker 2: Colin Kaepernicks is a sports story, y'all. Niggas don't cover sports.

2366
01:57:47,320 --> 01:57:50,400
Speaker 2: But that niggas start kneeling all of a sudden, motherfuck

2367
01:57:50,520 --> 01:57:53,080
Speaker 2: everybody that was writing about everyone was writing about.

2368
01:57:53,080 --> 01:57:54,760
Speaker 3: It ain't no matter if you knew football or not.

2369
01:57:55,760 --> 01:57:57,640
Speaker 2: The fact that you know, at the end of the day,

2370
01:57:57,720 --> 01:58:00,160
Speaker 2: Colin Kaepernick is gonna go on to do what whatever

2371
01:58:00,200 --> 01:58:01,760
Speaker 2: the fuck else he wants to do in his life.

2372
01:58:02,200 --> 01:58:04,160
Speaker 2: We didn't go it's a distraction from the fact that

2373
01:58:04,280 --> 01:58:06,640
Speaker 2: the government did this. So my friend died last week

2374
01:58:07,000 --> 01:58:08,920
Speaker 2: or the cop shot another dude, we don't say that,

2375
01:58:09,760 --> 01:58:12,440
Speaker 2: So it clearly was about the fact that we don't

2376
01:58:12,480 --> 01:58:16,040
Speaker 2: empathize or care enough about black women to even get

2377
01:58:16,080 --> 01:58:17,959
Speaker 2: them in the room to do these interviews.

2378
01:58:18,200 --> 01:58:20,520
Speaker 3: That which is a sad fact. It took this long.

2379
01:58:20,600 --> 01:58:24,080
Speaker 3: But yeah, that's the definitive dollars our interview right there. Man,

2380
01:58:24,960 --> 01:58:27,840
Speaker 3: it was good, all right?

2381
01:58:28,040 --> 01:58:28,160
Speaker 5: Uh?

2382
01:58:28,320 --> 01:58:30,560
Speaker 3: No more fucking with black people, guys. Oh wait, no,

2383
01:58:30,920 --> 01:58:31,320
Speaker 3: one more?

2384
01:58:31,840 --> 01:58:32,120
Speaker 4: Okay.

2385
01:58:32,680 --> 01:58:35,760
Speaker 2: Seven new employees joined the Fox News racial discrimination suit

2386
01:58:35,760 --> 01:58:36,560
Speaker 2: against New York.

2387
01:58:37,920 --> 01:58:43,280
Speaker 3: Good mm hmmm, yep. Apparently.

2388
01:58:43,880 --> 01:58:44,000
Speaker 4: Uh.

2389
01:58:44,200 --> 01:58:47,200
Speaker 2: There's a recent letter from employees lawyers which allege, in

2390
01:58:47,240 --> 01:58:50,080
Speaker 2: addition to the years of verbal abuse, they also subjected

2391
01:58:50,160 --> 01:58:53,200
Speaker 2: black employees to degrading arm wrestling matches held in the

2392
01:58:53,320 --> 01:58:55,440
Speaker 2: office of that mean woman slater.

2393
01:58:56,160 --> 01:58:58,240
Speaker 3: That was racist arm wrestling.

2394
01:58:58,320 --> 01:58:58,560
Speaker 4: Y'all?

2395
01:58:59,360 --> 01:59:01,720
Speaker 2: What kind of mans and dingo fights? What's going on

2396
01:59:01,840 --> 01:59:04,840
Speaker 2: at five? How do you still work there after that?

2397
01:59:05,000 --> 01:59:07,840
Speaker 2: That's difficult. Like I'm not trying to blame the victim,

2398
01:59:07,880 --> 01:59:10,240
Speaker 2: but damn, that's a hard one to get my head around.

2399
01:59:10,280 --> 01:59:12,640
Speaker 2: If you told me I got to arm wrestle some

2400
01:59:12,760 --> 01:59:16,720
Speaker 2: other nigga for your entertainment, Hey, dog, we are at work.

2401
01:59:17,680 --> 01:59:22,560
Speaker 3: What is this? Was this in the interview? What's your nigga?

2402
01:59:23,920 --> 01:59:27,960
Speaker 3: Neither here nor there. Yeah, neither here nor there. How

2403
01:59:28,040 --> 01:59:30,200
Speaker 3: much you bench, bro, Like, come on man.

2404
01:59:30,840 --> 01:59:34,839
Speaker 2: The attorneys compared the practice to Jim crow erab Battle Royales,

2405
01:59:35,360 --> 01:59:39,240
Speaker 2: where white people forced black people to box wine folded

2406
01:59:39,320 --> 01:59:43,200
Speaker 2: for the amusing the white crowds, and called Slater matches horrifying,

2407
01:59:43,320 --> 01:59:46,800
Speaker 2: offensive and humiliating and the wake of the original lawsuit

2408
01:59:47,040 --> 01:59:49,960
Speaker 2: Fox Fire Slater. But according to intelligence her she had

2409
01:59:49,960 --> 01:59:52,800
Speaker 2: an accomplised accounting director, Tammy Effinger.

2410
01:59:53,360 --> 01:59:55,280
Speaker 3: Two black women, I mean two white women did this

2411
01:59:55,920 --> 01:59:56,320
Speaker 3: coming out?

2412
01:59:56,360 --> 01:59:58,320
Speaker 5: They were like, no, she ain't the only one. So Tammy,

2413
01:59:58,360 --> 02:00:01,640
Speaker 5: gonna lose your job too, baby already gone.

2414
02:00:02,320 --> 02:00:06,520
Speaker 3: It was up there running some now Friday night mandingo

2415
02:00:06,640 --> 02:00:07,040
Speaker 3: fights and.

2416
02:00:07,040 --> 02:00:09,760
Speaker 5: Ship the whole bars like this. This is what happened

2417
02:00:10,000 --> 02:00:12,160
Speaker 5: when you have people that are unchecked.

2418
02:00:12,480 --> 02:00:17,400
Speaker 2: Mm hmm, well yeah this is sick ship man. But yeah,

2419
02:00:17,440 --> 02:00:20,400
Speaker 2: they was making these niggas arm wrestle. I hope they

2420
02:00:20,480 --> 02:00:24,760
Speaker 2: lose everything, all right, zero to one hundred?

2421
02:00:24,800 --> 02:00:27,800
Speaker 4: Can I'm not fucking lawsuit against Fox?

2422
02:00:27,920 --> 02:00:27,960
Speaker 5: No?

2423
02:00:28,160 --> 02:00:28,440
Speaker 3: Okay?

2424
02:00:28,680 --> 02:00:28,880
Speaker 4: Zero?

2425
02:00:29,120 --> 02:00:31,280
Speaker 2: Well you know what I'll do one more then zero

2426
02:00:31,360 --> 02:00:33,800
Speaker 2: for me as well. Then controversy. Well, now I'm a

2427
02:00:33,800 --> 02:00:35,520
Speaker 2: little fucked with by that arm wrestling story. I'm not

2428
02:00:35,560 --> 02:00:39,280
Speaker 2: gonna lie fifty because I'm like, really, your niggas arm

2429
02:00:39,520 --> 02:00:41,640
Speaker 2: like it was bad enough y'all was making the racial jokes.

2430
02:00:41,720 --> 02:00:43,720
Speaker 2: Now I gotta come here and arm wrestle for real,

2431
02:00:43,840 --> 02:00:46,360
Speaker 2: like serious, love that you put your swim too.

2432
02:00:47,120 --> 02:00:47,240
Speaker 6: Uh.

2433
02:00:47,400 --> 02:00:50,760
Speaker 2: Controversy likely hurt Gorilla at Showtime series debut draws at

2434
02:00:50,760 --> 02:00:52,720
Speaker 2: dismal one hundred and eighty two thousand viewers.

2435
02:00:56,160 --> 02:01:05,280
Speaker 3: Huh, well that is a thing that happened. I ain't

2436
02:01:05,320 --> 02:01:09,360
Speaker 3: playing on watching no way. Mm hmm yep. His what's funny?

2437
02:01:09,520 --> 02:01:11,680
Speaker 2: I wanted to watch that when I first heard it announced,

2438
02:01:12,440 --> 02:01:14,880
Speaker 2: and then when I heard about the the I guess

2439
02:01:14,920 --> 02:01:17,280
Speaker 2: it's not whitewashing but brown washing or whatever of it.

2440
02:01:18,080 --> 02:01:21,200
Speaker 2: And then when I heard his defense somehow, I was like, ooh,

2441
02:01:21,880 --> 02:01:23,760
Speaker 2: this seems like no reason to watch this now.

2442
02:01:23,920 --> 02:01:25,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, I defy to watch it ten years later, but

2443
02:01:25,800 --> 02:01:26,960
Speaker 4: now it's not even on my list.

2444
02:01:27,080 --> 02:01:29,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, you definitely want to replace the black man with

2445
02:01:29,240 --> 02:01:31,560
Speaker 2: just somebody from another racetop might it don't matter.

2446
02:01:31,640 --> 02:01:33,640
Speaker 3: You wouldn't have done that, like, come on.

2447
02:01:33,760 --> 02:01:36,200
Speaker 4: Dont Latino man play Martin Luther? King Nigga would have

2448
02:01:36,240 --> 02:01:36,560
Speaker 4: had a fit.

2449
02:01:36,720 --> 02:01:39,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, tell the story of don't but don't half step

2450
02:01:39,520 --> 02:01:42,040
Speaker 2: to the story. But yeah, ain't nobody watched that shit?

2451
02:01:44,360 --> 02:01:47,880
Speaker 3: So because it aired in UK first? Right? Yeah?

2452
02:01:48,320 --> 02:01:51,560
Speaker 2: I mean, but well they previewed it in the UK first,

2453
02:01:51,640 --> 02:01:55,200
Speaker 2: I think, but because for like the press tour. But

2454
02:01:56,480 --> 02:01:58,680
Speaker 2: I think he just came on regular ass TV now

2455
02:02:00,400 --> 02:02:04,440
Speaker 2: and well one hundred and eight to eighty two thousand viewers.

2456
02:02:04,920 --> 02:02:07,960
Speaker 2: To put that into perspective, Homeland gets over a million.

2457
02:02:08,240 --> 02:02:11,440
Speaker 2: Ray Donovan averages over a million billions, is averaging around

2458
02:02:11,480 --> 02:02:14,640
Speaker 2: nine hundred thousand. Shameless gets around one point five millions

2459
02:02:14,640 --> 02:02:18,600
Speaker 2: of viewers of episode comparing to to HBO. The Leftovers

2460
02:02:18,600 --> 02:02:22,000
Speaker 2: gets nine hundred thousand viewers, Veep gets a million. Uh

2461
02:02:22,200 --> 02:02:24,880
Speaker 2: Easter the Rays in Security even drawing four hundred and

2462
02:02:24,960 --> 02:02:28,720
Speaker 2: ten thousand. Uh So this is uhh, this is like

2463
02:02:28,800 --> 02:02:30,480
Speaker 2: the lowest of the low.

2464
02:02:31,240 --> 02:02:35,400
Speaker 3: Really stratch the DVD numbers, and there's still five episodes ago.

2465
02:02:35,800 --> 02:02:38,560
Speaker 2: Wonder if the I mean, I guess so unlike regular

2466
02:02:38,640 --> 02:02:41,720
Speaker 2: network television, they'll probably get all all the episodes out,

2467
02:02:42,000 --> 02:02:44,280
Speaker 2: but I doubt this is getting renewed.

2468
02:02:44,360 --> 02:02:45,360
Speaker 3: He fucked all the way.

2469
02:02:45,280 --> 02:02:49,160
Speaker 2: Up, Hey man, downplay these black women to your detriment. Man,

2470
02:02:49,480 --> 02:02:51,720
Speaker 2: like you ain't getting nowhere if you black. You ain't

2471
02:02:51,720 --> 02:02:55,080
Speaker 2: getting nowhere without black women, dog unless you completely racistly

2472
02:02:55,240 --> 02:02:58,160
Speaker 2: sell the fuck out like black men do not spend

2473
02:02:58,240 --> 02:02:59,960
Speaker 2: that kind of money or support that kind of shit.

2474
02:03:00,280 --> 02:03:01,840
Speaker 2: Like they will sit up there and take your ship

2475
02:03:01,880 --> 02:03:04,360
Speaker 2: for free every week and not give a DoD damn

2476
02:03:04,520 --> 02:03:07,720
Speaker 2: dime back and expect your ass to do better every

2477
02:03:07,760 --> 02:03:11,400
Speaker 2: week for free. And uh, yes, sisters will support you

2478
02:03:11,800 --> 02:03:15,240
Speaker 2: and even if they criticize you and uh you know,

2479
02:03:15,320 --> 02:03:17,200
Speaker 2: try to get you on the right path, like they'll

2480
02:03:17,240 --> 02:03:19,200
Speaker 2: still love you and be the last people to fucking

2481
02:03:19,360 --> 02:03:21,200
Speaker 2: leave even when they probably should have been left.

2482
02:03:21,240 --> 02:03:24,320
Speaker 3: Sometimes there's a lot of there's a lot of sisters

2483
02:03:24,360 --> 02:03:25,480
Speaker 3: that hold without hope.

2484
02:03:25,840 --> 02:03:28,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like it's all no matter how fucked up some

2485
02:03:28,400 --> 02:03:30,920
Speaker 2: dude is always if they black, it's always.

2486
02:03:30,680 --> 02:03:32,880
Speaker 3: Some sister somewhere being like, well hold up, let's hear

2487
02:03:32,880 --> 02:03:33,160
Speaker 3: it out.

2488
02:03:33,720 --> 02:03:38,400
Speaker 2: So yeah, if you alienate them like nigga, you just

2489
02:03:38,480 --> 02:03:40,000
Speaker 2: might as well just cancel Christmas?

2490
02:03:40,040 --> 02:03:41,080
Speaker 3: What else are you gonna do?

2491
02:03:42,320 --> 02:03:45,640
Speaker 5: Because one thing about black women and non't know, we

2492
02:03:45,720 --> 02:03:48,680
Speaker 5: said this before, and it's kind of uh saying what

2493
02:03:48,840 --> 02:03:51,080
Speaker 5: you said again. As far as black women, black women

2494
02:03:51,160 --> 02:03:53,880
Speaker 5: support and now only that they support with their time.

2495
02:03:54,120 --> 02:03:57,600
Speaker 4: Thet's put their money and shit needs money, and black

2496
02:03:57,640 --> 02:03:58,320
Speaker 4: women will give.

2497
02:03:58,400 --> 02:04:01,080
Speaker 5: A Black woman give above and a lot of times

2498
02:04:01,200 --> 02:04:05,960
Speaker 5: beyond what they should, just because they support your calls

2499
02:04:06,080 --> 02:04:08,960
Speaker 5: or your purpose or whatever it is you're doing. I've

2500
02:04:09,000 --> 02:04:11,680
Speaker 5: given the black women, you know when they do them paypalings,

2501
02:04:11,720 --> 02:04:13,400
Speaker 5: and sometimes I'm like, I don't know what the fuck

2502
02:04:13,480 --> 02:04:15,640
Speaker 5: you do? Here is the axt a few dollars because

2503
02:04:15,640 --> 02:04:17,240
Speaker 5: you black and you're trying to do something. You might

2504
02:04:17,280 --> 02:04:20,040
Speaker 5: be trying to pay your rent accomplish something, but black

2505
02:04:20,080 --> 02:04:22,120
Speaker 5: women do that. Black men have a tendency not to

2506
02:04:22,200 --> 02:04:24,080
Speaker 5: do that because overall, a lot of black men, not

2507
02:04:24,160 --> 02:04:26,920
Speaker 5: your honey, not talk and raised to give. Black men

2508
02:04:27,080 --> 02:04:30,040
Speaker 5: just aren't taught men period, but particular backman, you're not

2509
02:04:30,120 --> 02:04:33,320
Speaker 5: talked to give. You're not really taught to be considerate

2510
02:04:33,480 --> 02:04:36,760
Speaker 5: of other people outside I'm mean your immediate family, right.

2511
02:04:36,840 --> 02:04:39,440
Speaker 2: I just think so much shit caters to certain people

2512
02:04:39,480 --> 02:04:44,320
Speaker 2: that are entitlement doesn't allow us to think of ourselves as, oh,

2513
02:04:44,400 --> 02:04:46,960
Speaker 2: I need to support this, like you damn got a

2514
02:04:47,040 --> 02:04:51,240
Speaker 2: beg sometimes to get people to support. Whereas if you know,

2515
02:04:51,640 --> 02:04:53,760
Speaker 2: like you said, if they used to support it. It's like, oh, well,

2516
02:04:53,800 --> 02:04:55,720
Speaker 2: of course it hass money to do shit like this,

2517
02:04:55,880 --> 02:04:57,720
Speaker 2: and I appreciate.

2518
02:04:57,240 --> 02:04:58,680
Speaker 3: You, and I want you to have money, and I

2519
02:04:58,760 --> 02:04:59,280
Speaker 3: want you to have.

2520
02:04:59,800 --> 02:05:02,120
Speaker 2: The the ability and the time to continue to produce

2521
02:05:02,200 --> 02:05:06,000
Speaker 2: this thing that I enjoyed, whereas you know, and and that,

2522
02:05:06,120 --> 02:05:08,480
Speaker 2: and like I said, there's still women that tolerate kind

2523
02:05:08,520 --> 02:05:12,240
Speaker 2: of like it's like, well, you ain't actively playing me

2524
02:05:12,320 --> 02:05:15,960
Speaker 2: to my face, but I'll watch your ship anyway, like

2525
02:05:16,040 --> 02:05:17,400
Speaker 2: you don't really cater towards me.

2526
02:05:18,160 --> 02:05:20,080
Speaker 3: And then there's my man coming out and being like,

2527
02:05:20,360 --> 02:05:22,120
Speaker 3: basically I'm.

2528
02:05:22,040 --> 02:05:25,000
Speaker 2: Married to any woman and this is really crying and shit,

2529
02:05:25,720 --> 02:05:28,320
Speaker 2: I was like, he fucked all the way up.

2530
02:05:28,480 --> 02:05:28,640
Speaker 6: Dog.

2531
02:05:28,760 --> 02:05:30,160
Speaker 3: You can't fuck up worse.

2532
02:05:30,000 --> 02:05:32,240
Speaker 5: Than that, right, because to be funny to a lot

2533
02:05:32,320 --> 02:05:34,040
Speaker 5: of black women, you know what the other like white

2534
02:05:34,040 --> 02:05:35,680
Speaker 5: women tears and we didn't want to see it and

2535
02:05:35,760 --> 02:05:37,560
Speaker 5: we didn't want to care here it and we didn't care.

2536
02:05:38,520 --> 02:05:41,240
Speaker 4: This was real with dad, because you're crying because.

2537
02:05:40,960 --> 02:05:43,440
Speaker 5: You got addressed, just like when white people white women

2538
02:05:43,520 --> 02:05:46,280
Speaker 5: fuck up, and black women be like, hey, you fucked up, doll.

2539
02:05:46,360 --> 02:05:47,720
Speaker 4: I'm not trying to get on you, but can we

2540
02:05:47,800 --> 02:05:49,200
Speaker 4: talk about this and all you hear.

2541
02:05:49,320 --> 02:05:52,360
Speaker 5: All you hear is waters washed across the timeline and

2542
02:05:52,480 --> 02:05:55,560
Speaker 5: you're like, nigga, we don't care, don't care about you know,

2543
02:05:55,720 --> 02:05:59,600
Speaker 5: your wife. We're asking about your your covering something this

2544
02:05:59,760 --> 02:06:01,120
Speaker 5: baby off of blackness?

2545
02:06:01,560 --> 02:06:03,440
Speaker 4: Why is there more black women?

2546
02:06:03,480 --> 02:06:06,400
Speaker 5: And instead of you telling me, hey, you know what

2547
02:06:06,560 --> 02:06:10,080
Speaker 5: if for the episodes is coming, you know, you give

2548
02:06:10,120 --> 02:06:12,840
Speaker 5: me some have ass, But what about my wife?

2549
02:06:13,160 --> 02:06:13,800
Speaker 3: I don't care.

2550
02:06:13,960 --> 02:06:16,160
Speaker 5: I didn't ask about her. I asked about the work

2551
02:06:16,200 --> 02:06:18,640
Speaker 5: that you've done. And that's what mattered at the time.

2552
02:06:18,920 --> 02:06:22,080
Speaker 5: And it's one of those things where if you make

2553
02:06:22,240 --> 02:06:25,920
Speaker 5: black women upset, a lot of times, the shit won't succeed.

2554
02:06:26,040 --> 02:06:30,720
Speaker 5: And that's something that's hard for people to understand because I.

2555
02:06:30,720 --> 02:06:33,760
Speaker 4: Think about black women. When we support, we support, We

2556
02:06:33,880 --> 02:06:36,840
Speaker 4: tell our families, we tell our friends. We'll spend the

2557
02:06:36,960 --> 02:06:41,800
Speaker 4: word on social media on multiple platforms, like everybody knows

2558
02:06:41,920 --> 02:06:43,160
Speaker 4: this thing that we're into.

2559
02:06:43,680 --> 02:06:46,040
Speaker 5: We'll be like somebody, but I ain't heard of that you,

2560
02:06:46,120 --> 02:06:48,320
Speaker 5: but I go, girl, here's the link. We'll talk about

2561
02:06:48,320 --> 02:06:52,480
Speaker 5: it in whatever a private chat we own, like, we

2562
02:06:52,680 --> 02:06:54,720
Speaker 5: gonna let it. We even talk to the people that

2563
02:06:54,800 --> 02:06:56,840
Speaker 5: ain't even got social media. We'll go to our mom man,

2564
02:06:56,920 --> 02:06:59,200
Speaker 5: my grandma and my aunt and be like, girl, I

2565
02:06:59,360 --> 02:07:00,960
Speaker 5: know you ain't got at the internet, but let me

2566
02:07:01,080 --> 02:07:02,280
Speaker 5: come on head and tell you about it.

2567
02:07:02,360 --> 02:07:04,160
Speaker 4: This is what time they come on I girl, I

2568
02:07:04,240 --> 02:07:04,960
Speaker 4: set it up for you.

2569
02:07:05,720 --> 02:07:08,200
Speaker 5: We'll go really go out our way so for you

2570
02:07:08,360 --> 02:07:10,800
Speaker 5: to for you to make it where this probably could

2571
02:07:10,840 --> 02:07:14,600
Speaker 5: have had decent to excelement ratings. But once you pissed

2572
02:07:14,600 --> 02:07:17,880
Speaker 5: that group off, I'm not watching it, nor am I

2573
02:07:17,920 --> 02:07:20,000
Speaker 5: gonna tell anybody else to watch it, because I saw

2574
02:07:20,400 --> 02:07:21,720
Speaker 5: how y'all treated them.

2575
02:07:22,200 --> 02:07:22,400
Speaker 6: Then.

2576
02:07:22,640 --> 02:07:25,640
Speaker 4: I even seen how another actor who didn't have shit

2577
02:07:25,760 --> 02:07:27,240
Speaker 4: to do with the conversation another.

2578
02:07:27,120 --> 02:07:29,720
Speaker 5: Man pulled his penis out and try to act like

2579
02:07:30,040 --> 02:07:31,800
Speaker 5: y'all bitches don't know what y'all talking about.

2580
02:07:31,920 --> 02:07:33,480
Speaker 4: Okay, niggas, you ain't gonna rine about me?

2581
02:07:33,560 --> 02:07:38,600
Speaker 3: Then, yep, yeah they I mean Vato Margulis.

2582
02:07:39,960 --> 02:07:40,080
Speaker 6: Uh.

2583
02:07:40,160 --> 02:07:43,240
Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean zero zero for nobody watching this show,

2584
02:07:43,360 --> 02:07:43,720
Speaker 3: I ain't.

2585
02:07:44,280 --> 02:07:45,680
Speaker 5: I bet you the next time he won't do that

2586
02:07:45,720 --> 02:07:47,640
Speaker 5: shit and he'll think twice for it, open up his mouth,

2587
02:07:47,800 --> 02:07:49,680
Speaker 5: because that's the thing people need to be punished for

2588
02:07:49,840 --> 02:07:51,360
Speaker 5: doing stupid fuck shit like this.

2589
02:07:52,240 --> 02:07:56,640
Speaker 2: Mm hmm, all right, let's go to uh no time

2590
02:07:56,680 --> 02:07:59,360
Speaker 2: for white people new today. We'll get to it tomorrow.

2591
02:08:00,560 --> 02:08:05,320
Speaker 2: Let's go and do some guests the race now that

2592
02:08:05,600 --> 02:08:09,600
Speaker 2: it's time for some guests the race. That's right, it's

2593
02:08:09,680 --> 02:08:14,240
Speaker 2: guest the race time. Now, that is time for some

2594
02:08:14,480 --> 02:08:18,680
Speaker 2: guests the race. That's right, it's guest the race time.

2595
02:08:20,640 --> 02:08:24,440
Speaker 2: That's right, it's time for guest The race. The number

2596
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Speaker 2: one game show going across all the podcasts, and we

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02:08:26,400 --> 02:08:28,320
Speaker 2: read the play news arts all over the globe, and

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02:08:28,440 --> 02:08:31,360
Speaker 2: we asked our contestants today caring in the chatterol to

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Speaker 2: guests the race, and of course everybody playing is racist,

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02:08:36,040 --> 02:08:41,240
Speaker 2: all right, as if there weren't enough reasons already. Hay

2601
02:08:41,320 --> 02:08:44,120
Speaker 2: being a police officer, and Dallas cops now are apparently

2602
02:08:44,640 --> 02:08:48,560
Speaker 2: tasked with facing ilicentious sea punks peeing on their stuff.

2603
02:08:49,240 --> 02:08:54,360
Speaker 2: There are the cases past Saturday, anyway, when a couple

2604
02:08:54,440 --> 02:08:59,880
Speaker 2: of officers launching at downtown tie spot Zenna were flagged down.

2605
02:08:59,880 --> 02:09:02,080
Speaker 3: The told that wiley blue hair.

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02:09:02,000 --> 02:09:05,720
Speaker 2: Dude later identified as twenty seven year old William Alexander Holmes,

2607
02:09:06,360 --> 02:09:08,840
Speaker 2: had been spotted taking a leak on their squad car

2608
02:09:10,000 --> 02:09:12,000
Speaker 2: at the pen on the black and white right out

2609
02:09:12,000 --> 02:09:16,480
Speaker 2: in the street in broad daylight. The dude began punching

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02:09:16,520 --> 02:09:19,560
Speaker 2: the driver's side window of the car. He then stepped

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02:09:19,600 --> 02:09:21,920
Speaker 2: inside of Zena where he confronted where he was confronted

2612
02:09:21,920 --> 02:09:24,640
Speaker 2: about officers whose car he had just urinated on, and

2613
02:09:24,840 --> 02:09:28,800
Speaker 2: he started swinging on them too. He got arrested pretty quickly.

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02:09:29,040 --> 02:09:31,200
Speaker 2: Now faces failing charges of us at on the officer

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02:09:31,280 --> 02:09:32,120
Speaker 2: and criminal mischief.

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02:09:33,040 --> 02:09:34,320
Speaker 3: I guess the race.

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02:09:35,600 --> 02:09:36,520
Speaker 4: I'm white.

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02:09:37,000 --> 02:09:39,280
Speaker 2: All right, let's check the ray, check the chat room

2619
02:09:39,280 --> 02:09:42,000
Speaker 2: and see what you guys leave for. What was his name,

2620
02:09:42,040 --> 02:09:45,400
Speaker 2: William Alexander Holmes. All right, let's see what you guys think.

2621
02:09:46,640 --> 02:09:52,200
Speaker 2: White and not shot instantly, White, White making his territory,

2622
02:09:52,440 --> 02:09:55,920
Speaker 2: marking his territory. White, lived to tail, tell the tail, White,

2623
02:09:56,040 --> 02:09:57,640
Speaker 2: still alive, White made it to jail.

2624
02:09:57,720 --> 02:10:01,680
Speaker 3: White. White. Everybody's going white on this joint. Everyone, you're correct?

2625
02:10:01,760 --> 02:10:02,320
Speaker 3: Who's white?

2626
02:10:14,640 --> 02:10:19,160
Speaker 2: Somebody said, legends of white, Legends of whiteness, legend of

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02:10:19,240 --> 02:10:23,560
Speaker 2: chill Chamberlain White. I'll show you a picture of them,

2628
02:10:25,400 --> 02:10:27,320
Speaker 2: and uh, it is ridiculous.

2629
02:10:29,840 --> 02:10:32,000
Speaker 3: Is it showing up? Hit share?

2630
02:10:33,480 --> 02:10:39,280
Speaker 2: See if it shows up now? I might take a

2631
02:10:39,360 --> 02:10:43,040
Speaker 2: few seconds. Okay, it shows that I'm sharing it.

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02:10:43,120 --> 02:10:45,680
Speaker 3: I don't know. Uh, let me try sharing it with

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02:10:45,760 --> 02:10:46,880
Speaker 3: my time. Got sorry about that.

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02:10:49,520 --> 02:10:54,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm a fucker pissed off something publishing the screen. Okay, yeah,

2635
02:10:54,200 --> 02:10:57,360
Speaker 2: that's no fucking pissed on the car. Then went into

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02:10:57,440 --> 02:11:02,040
Speaker 2: the restaurant to to to fight the cop like he

2637
02:11:02,200 --> 02:11:05,360
Speaker 2: was determined to get arrested, you know, like maybe he

2638
02:11:05,520 --> 02:11:07,880
Speaker 2: just wanted to spend a night in jail. Things at

2639
02:11:07,920 --> 02:11:10,720
Speaker 2: home are tough for the man or something. You never

2640
02:11:10,840 --> 02:11:16,120
Speaker 2: know people these days, right, all right, still taking this

2641
02:11:16,160 --> 02:11:21,400
Speaker 2: sweet ass time. Okay, I might have to refresh, guys,

2642
02:11:21,760 --> 02:11:24,480
Speaker 2: I don't know why. All right, let me refresh this.

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02:11:25,360 --> 02:11:27,600
Speaker 2: Oh wait there it is all right, cool, y'all see him.

2644
02:11:28,680 --> 02:11:31,880
Speaker 2: This is like rainbow bright or something like that. It's

2645
02:11:31,960 --> 02:11:35,280
Speaker 2: not a wig, all right? What the fuck is on

2646
02:11:35,440 --> 02:11:36,120
Speaker 2: his head?

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02:11:36,280 --> 02:11:36,480
Speaker 4: Man?

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02:11:37,480 --> 02:11:42,760
Speaker 3: That's terrible. This is terrible. All right, let's go to

2649
02:11:43,040 --> 02:11:49,120
Speaker 3: the next one. But yeah, that was horrible. How about

2650
02:11:49,200 --> 02:11:49,640
Speaker 3: this one?

2651
02:11:51,080 --> 02:11:54,840
Speaker 2: A woman buys a duck from the market, only to

2652
02:11:54,920 --> 02:11:57,320
Speaker 2: be hard fired that his head was still attached and

2653
02:11:57,400 --> 02:11:58,080
Speaker 2: smiling at her.

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02:12:01,000 --> 02:12:01,400
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.

2655
02:12:02,760 --> 02:12:05,800
Speaker 2: A twenty one year old purchased a frozen duck at

2656
02:12:05,880 --> 02:12:09,640
Speaker 2: the market. Only did you put off of her appetite

2657
02:12:09,720 --> 02:12:11,880
Speaker 2: when she found the dead animal? Stare back at her

2658
02:12:11,960 --> 02:12:13,440
Speaker 2: with a seemingly sly smile.

2659
02:12:15,160 --> 02:12:17,520
Speaker 3: Oh this is sad because it happened here.

2660
02:12:18,520 --> 02:12:22,920
Speaker 2: Ah. Tierra Duncan, twenty one, Charlotte, North Carolina, assumed the duck.

2661
02:12:25,600 --> 02:12:27,560
Speaker 2: Assume the ducks she bought from the market would come

2662
02:12:27,680 --> 02:12:30,640
Speaker 2: with that without the legs and feet. When she was

2663
02:12:31,400 --> 02:12:34,560
Speaker 2: ready in herself to make dinner on Sunday, she shared

2664
02:12:34,600 --> 02:12:37,000
Speaker 2: an image of the duck's head with the caption, I

2665
02:12:37,080 --> 02:12:38,760
Speaker 2: didn't know it was a whole fucking duck.

2666
02:12:38,960 --> 02:12:42,000
Speaker 3: Nah, I just now stopped. I just now stopped screaming.

2667
02:12:42,800 --> 02:12:45,600
Speaker 3: Her post fired it to a meme at the Social.

2668
02:12:45,400 --> 02:12:48,959
Speaker 2: Media users were amused by the dead duck's facial expression,

2669
02:12:49,760 --> 02:12:52,720
Speaker 2: while vegetarians jumped in to criticize her post.

2670
02:12:53,160 --> 02:12:55,320
Speaker 3: What why cook that?

2671
02:12:55,400 --> 02:12:55,920
Speaker 4: The shit they do?

2672
02:12:56,400 --> 02:12:58,880
Speaker 2: Duncan went shopping at a market in anticipation of making

2673
02:12:58,960 --> 02:13:02,960
Speaker 2: orange ginger braised on Sunday. She shared excitement on Snapchat.

2674
02:13:03,080 --> 02:13:04,680
Speaker 2: It took a photo of the package meat with the

2675
02:13:04,760 --> 02:13:06,000
Speaker 2: caption I'm having duck.

2676
02:13:05,840 --> 02:13:06,800
Speaker 3: The knight for her.

2677
02:13:06,840 --> 02:13:09,200
Speaker 2: Excitement soon turned the terror when she removed a plastic

2678
02:13:09,240 --> 02:13:11,360
Speaker 2: package in and found a duck start staring back at

2679
02:13:11,400 --> 02:13:12,720
Speaker 2: her with its eyes half open.

2680
02:13:13,200 --> 02:13:14,160
Speaker 3: She told BuzzFeed.

2681
02:13:14,280 --> 02:13:15,920
Speaker 2: I was not expecting it to look like a whole

2682
02:13:16,000 --> 02:13:18,120
Speaker 2: chicken or turkey does when you buy it. No head,

2683
02:13:18,280 --> 02:13:22,040
Speaker 2: no feet, She shared her shot on social media right

2684
02:13:22,120 --> 02:13:24,840
Speaker 2: in my fucking awesome dinner turn to a hard story

2685
02:13:24,880 --> 02:13:27,640
Speaker 2: of the day. The duck's facial expression soon captured the

2686
02:13:27,680 --> 02:13:30,600
Speaker 2: imagination of social media users, and her photographs spout.

2687
02:13:30,400 --> 02:13:33,440
Speaker 4: Into a mean black photoshop.

2688
02:13:33,120 --> 02:13:34,280
Speaker 3: Black photoshop okay.

2689
02:13:34,680 --> 02:13:38,080
Speaker 2: While some people sympathized with duck and saying they would

2690
02:13:38,120 --> 02:13:41,200
Speaker 2: have responded similarly to the discovery of the duck head,

2691
02:13:42,080 --> 02:13:44,360
Speaker 2: others were not understanding.

2692
02:13:44,480 --> 02:13:45,600
Speaker 3: One Twitter reser wrote, so.

2693
02:13:45,640 --> 02:13:47,600
Speaker 2: You can eat meat as long as you don't have

2694
02:13:47,680 --> 02:13:51,320
Speaker 2: to look them in the eye, right, yep, yeah, that

2695
02:13:51,480 --> 02:13:55,080
Speaker 2: is correct. A woman tweeting under the handle at vegan

2696
02:13:55,360 --> 02:13:59,040
Speaker 2: nature Baby wrote at intoxicated Underscore, if you're a real

2697
02:13:59,160 --> 02:14:02,320
Speaker 2: meat either, that shouldn't phrase you right, My dog would

2698
02:14:02,360 --> 02:14:06,600
Speaker 2: be thrilled us her give me the Urio tweeted at

2699
02:14:06,640 --> 02:14:09,200
Speaker 2: its kunt score. Did you forget the animals have heads?

2700
02:14:09,480 --> 02:14:11,120
Speaker 2: Or did you forget you or eating an animal that

2701
02:14:11,280 --> 02:14:14,840
Speaker 2: was murdered for your awesome meal? I guess the race

2702
02:14:15,040 --> 02:14:20,040
Speaker 2: of the original person that put it on social media.

2703
02:14:20,760 --> 02:14:22,440
Speaker 2: Tierra duncan Tia dunk and black.

2704
02:14:22,520 --> 02:14:23,880
Speaker 4: But the people ras were white.

2705
02:14:24,280 --> 02:14:26,120
Speaker 2: All right, let's check the chat room, see what they

2706
02:14:26,160 --> 02:14:34,000
Speaker 2: would leave. Uh uh uh, that's a sister. I can't

2707
02:14:34,040 --> 02:14:37,440
Speaker 2: think of anything funny but black white. I felt like

2708
02:14:37,600 --> 02:14:41,680
Speaker 2: that wouldn't scare anyone else off black attacked by vegan whiteness,

2709
02:14:42,600 --> 02:14:45,080
Speaker 2: white folks in the mentions being sassy, So you know

2710
02:14:45,240 --> 02:14:50,720
Speaker 2: she black. Apparently the duck the duck duck nick knacked

2711
02:14:50,800 --> 02:14:51,680
Speaker 2: Patty Quack.

2712
02:14:51,560 --> 02:14:54,760
Speaker 3: Black suffered, suffering sucotash black.

2713
02:14:55,360 --> 02:14:58,720
Speaker 4: Somebody said that duck shout out a black black.

2714
02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:01,760
Speaker 2: I had to play duck duck goose to season to

2715
02:15:01,840 --> 02:15:06,880
Speaker 2: meet black black. Didn't know it came, but she can

2716
02:15:07,280 --> 02:15:27,720
Speaker 2: probably cook it well. The correct answer is she was black. Yeah,

2717
02:15:28,600 --> 02:15:30,120
Speaker 2: I think one person did say white.

2718
02:15:30,160 --> 02:15:39,040
Speaker 3: I think ooh your ass.

2719
02:15:40,160 --> 02:15:43,400
Speaker 2: Of course she was black, like Ken said, she knew

2720
02:15:43,440 --> 02:15:47,120
Speaker 2: black photoshop was on it. So you called it early.

2721
02:15:49,200 --> 02:15:52,720
Speaker 4: So yep, you're talking about when you're talking means because

2722
02:15:52,760 --> 02:15:55,480
Speaker 4: not time funny. White people normally not known for their

2723
02:15:55,560 --> 02:16:01,320
Speaker 4: creative means skills. You too, ain't she pretty?

2724
02:16:01,440 --> 02:16:02,840
Speaker 3: I don't know why they was hating.

2725
02:16:07,200 --> 02:16:10,120
Speaker 2: The smiling baby, because that's how the duck was let

2726
02:16:10,160 --> 02:16:11,120
Speaker 2: me see why I make it big.

2727
02:16:11,600 --> 02:16:13,200
Speaker 3: But if you zooming on the duck's.

2728
02:16:13,000 --> 02:16:15,520
Speaker 2: Head, it was like it's smiling and like the eyes

2729
02:16:15,560 --> 02:16:18,560
Speaker 2: looking at you. So she was like, I ain't fake

2730
02:16:18,640 --> 02:16:19,000
Speaker 2: to see this.

2731
02:16:21,800 --> 02:16:23,120
Speaker 4: I'd have been like, what the fuck is this?

2732
02:16:23,320 --> 02:16:28,840
Speaker 3: Stew Yeah, so I don't know bottom door I ateed

2733
02:16:28,920 --> 02:16:29,320
Speaker 3: up before.

2734
02:16:29,440 --> 02:16:31,840
Speaker 4: But so when you buy the head tashed, I don't know.

2735
02:16:31,960 --> 02:16:36,320
Speaker 2: I'd black underscaled of viewler foot, I bet your ass

2736
02:16:36,360 --> 02:16:36,840
Speaker 2: and not hungry.

2737
02:16:36,920 --> 02:16:40,800
Speaker 3: Now went the picture of the duck head. I've been

2738
02:16:40,840 --> 02:16:45,840
Speaker 3: waiting to get deep in these guts. When you get it, says,

2739
02:16:46,000 --> 02:16:47,640
Speaker 3: when you get that, two am you up?

2740
02:16:47,800 --> 02:16:48,080
Speaker 6: Text?

2741
02:16:49,600 --> 02:16:50,640
Speaker 3: Making duck great again?

2742
02:16:50,680 --> 02:16:53,120
Speaker 2: They put the Donald Trump we on it, make it

2743
02:16:53,280 --> 02:16:56,600
Speaker 2: duck again. They really photo shot this Donald Trump with

2744
02:16:56,720 --> 02:16:58,560
Speaker 2: hair on this fucking duck. Y'all a.

2745
02:17:00,240 --> 02:17:02,280
Speaker 3: Man black photoshop. Careen called it.

2746
02:17:03,080 --> 02:17:06,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, you told the mean game, mean game, bedight.

2747
02:17:07,720 --> 02:17:13,000
Speaker 3: Meanwhile, white folks mad as fuck pictures of cabbage heads

2748
02:17:13,080 --> 02:17:15,160
Speaker 3: and ship you ate a duck? Would you eat a

2749
02:17:15,240 --> 02:17:19,160
Speaker 3: human baby? You discussed me bitch that people talk.

2750
02:17:19,240 --> 02:17:20,840
Speaker 4: Don't don't get to having time. I bacon them.

2751
02:17:20,879 --> 02:17:23,840
Speaker 3: People come I know where too. Meanwhile, black lives don't

2752
02:17:23,879 --> 02:17:24,320
Speaker 3: matter to me.

2753
02:17:27,200 --> 02:17:29,320
Speaker 4: We know they got faces on them. Mm hm.

2754
02:17:30,840 --> 02:17:34,039
Speaker 2: All right, let's get to the bonus round here. Let's

2755
02:17:34,040 --> 02:17:48,840
Speaker 2: see here, up saying the race, doub up saying the race.

2756
02:17:49,720 --> 02:17:51,640
Speaker 2: That's right, double the points, double the race and the

2757
02:17:51,720 --> 02:17:54,040
Speaker 2: bonus round. I guess the race so far caring it's

2758
02:17:54,080 --> 02:17:58,760
Speaker 2: two for two, I believe, and uh the rest of

2759
02:17:58,760 --> 02:18:00,600
Speaker 2: the chat room, y'all are mostly two for two. But

2760
02:18:00,760 --> 02:18:02,720
Speaker 2: we'll see how you do it in a bonus round.

2761
02:18:03,600 --> 02:18:09,120
Speaker 2: All right, here's a story. A man parks truck on

2762
02:18:09,280 --> 02:18:11,240
Speaker 2: top of a car to defend a family in a

2763
02:18:11,360 --> 02:18:16,800
Speaker 2: road rage incident. Police say, uh, just happen in Florida,

2764
02:18:16,879 --> 02:18:19,360
Speaker 2: of course, with an au driver in front of the

2765
02:18:19,440 --> 02:18:21,360
Speaker 2: young Florida father. He did what he had to do

2766
02:18:21,440 --> 02:18:23,640
Speaker 2: to protect his family and that man parking his pickup

2767
02:18:23,680 --> 02:18:26,160
Speaker 2: truck on top of the driver's car. According to the

2768
02:18:26,200 --> 02:18:30,400
Speaker 2: Old Cala Police Department, Al Deberto Aponte fifty three was

2769
02:18:30,480 --> 02:18:31,679
Speaker 2: driving this Toyota.

2770
02:18:31,360 --> 02:18:36,200
Speaker 3: Cameray recklessly Wednesday afternoon. Wait, do I know I had

2771
02:18:36,240 --> 02:18:40,200
Speaker 3: a picture? What a dude picture? Might not even had

2772
02:18:40,240 --> 02:18:45,800
Speaker 3: to do this? Hard up son a bitch. Yeah, I

2773
02:18:45,840 --> 02:18:47,600
Speaker 3: don't even have his picture anymore. I guess he took

2774
02:18:47,640 --> 02:18:48,959
Speaker 3: it off the article. This is the old one.

2775
02:18:49,120 --> 02:18:52,440
Speaker 2: Okay, anyway, that's crazy. Motherfucking drove his truck on top

2776
02:18:52,480 --> 02:18:56,000
Speaker 2: of the car road rage nowhere.

2777
02:18:58,080 --> 02:18:59,840
Speaker 3: All right, let's see. How about.

2778
02:19:03,959 --> 02:19:06,160
Speaker 2: How about this one? Let me see if I see

2779
02:19:06,480 --> 02:19:09,960
Speaker 2: make sure I got the picture with his race. I

2780
02:19:10,040 --> 02:19:11,480
Speaker 2: can't believe I tanked that last one.

2781
02:19:11,560 --> 02:19:16,040
Speaker 3: God, sorry, it's all good. No, no, not, make sure

2782
02:19:16,040 --> 02:19:17,800
Speaker 3: to have that picture. I save it.

2783
02:19:19,080 --> 02:19:19,440
Speaker 4: All right?

2784
02:19:19,520 --> 02:19:23,480
Speaker 3: What about this guy? You have his picture? Maybe it's

2785
02:19:23,520 --> 02:19:26,840
Speaker 3: in the video. I guess I gotta play the video

2786
02:19:26,920 --> 02:19:32,440
Speaker 3: to see if I have his picture? Uh all right?

2787
02:19:32,720 --> 02:19:32,840
Speaker 6: Uh.

2788
02:19:33,600 --> 02:19:36,560
Speaker 2: One Florida man proved Halloween is never out of season

2789
02:19:36,640 --> 02:19:39,920
Speaker 2: in Florida, police say, yeah, I do got his picture.

2790
02:19:40,320 --> 02:19:46,760
Speaker 2: James James disney Fields fifty eight a Port Saint Lucy,

2791
02:19:46,920 --> 02:19:49,480
Speaker 2: wore a mop on his head like a mask while

2792
02:19:49,600 --> 02:19:52,680
Speaker 2: banging on a neighbor's door January thirteenth. According to the

2793
02:19:52,720 --> 02:19:54,680
Speaker 2: police report, when a neighbor open the door, he saw

2794
02:19:54,720 --> 02:19:57,640
Speaker 2: the mop of doorm Fields and couldn't understand, so he

2795
02:19:57,720 --> 02:19:59,880
Speaker 2: closed and like the door feels, continue his door knocking

2796
02:20:00,000 --> 02:20:02,200
Speaker 2: antics and added in some doorbell ringing and end up

2797
02:20:02,280 --> 02:20:04,920
Speaker 2: with the end of the mop. The neighbor identified feels

2798
02:20:04,920 --> 02:20:07,160
Speaker 2: as a man who terrified his entire family. When police

2799
02:20:07,200 --> 02:20:10,279
Speaker 2: found Phils and ask them what he's up to, reportite officers,

2800
02:20:10,720 --> 02:20:12,760
Speaker 2: I was short of an egg and needed eggs to

2801
02:20:12,840 --> 02:20:16,320
Speaker 2: make a cake. Phils was arrested for disturbing the piece.

2802
02:20:16,360 --> 02:20:18,720
Speaker 2: He remains in jail of the nine thousand dollars bell

2803
02:20:18,800 --> 02:20:23,000
Speaker 2: on January thirteen, Oh what the fuck, No, that's enough.

2804
02:20:25,080 --> 02:20:27,760
Speaker 2: Phils is arrested for the disturbing piece. He remains in jail.

2805
02:20:27,760 --> 02:20:30,279
Speaker 2: He charged with and he also has charges from a previous,

2806
02:20:30,360 --> 02:20:34,160
Speaker 2: unrelated incident. Karen, guess the race of mister Jane Disney Fields.

2807
02:20:35,120 --> 02:20:37,160
Speaker 3: Karen's going white. Let's check the chat room and see

2808
02:20:37,160 --> 02:20:42,280
Speaker 3: what you guys believe. Whiter than white. Black people do

2809
02:20:42,440 --> 02:20:44,960
Speaker 3: not aggressively knock on doors without getting shot and killed.

2810
02:20:45,000 --> 02:20:50,600
Speaker 3: White as fuck. White nonsense. He is white. White, Let's

2811
02:20:50,720 --> 02:20:52,039
Speaker 3: go down white.

2812
02:20:52,800 --> 02:20:56,200
Speaker 2: Everybody going white on this one or named that kid

2813
02:20:56,280 --> 02:20:58,600
Speaker 2: is Disney ha Disney is his middle name.

2814
02:20:58,680 --> 02:21:01,879
Speaker 3: White, happiest, it's on Earth. White. Wasn't shot by the neighbor,

2815
02:21:01,879 --> 02:21:05,240
Speaker 3: It wasn't shot by police. He hell a white. Let

2816
02:21:05,320 --> 02:21:06,160
Speaker 3: me tell you guys something.

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02:21:06,760 --> 02:21:09,760
Speaker 2: I didn't give you this information, but if y'all would

2818
02:21:09,760 --> 02:21:11,680
Speaker 2: have asked or told you Disney has spelled d I

2819
02:21:11,840 --> 02:21:28,600
Speaker 2: Z any why but the correct answer is still white. Yeah,

2820
02:21:28,760 --> 02:21:31,199
Speaker 2: that's why I didn't tell you guys how it was felled,

2821
02:21:31,200 --> 02:21:34,000
Speaker 2: because that that that right there would have made me

2822
02:21:34,120 --> 02:21:38,000
Speaker 2: go black me do you know like Disney with a

2823
02:21:38,120 --> 02:21:41,360
Speaker 2: Z Like only niggas do creative ship like that with names.

2824
02:21:42,160 --> 02:21:45,840
Speaker 2: But apparently a white person figured out our secret and

2825
02:21:45,959 --> 02:21:48,320
Speaker 2: said I'm I'm gonna do it.

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02:21:48,760 --> 02:21:50,760
Speaker 3: And he's like an old white man too, like no

2827
02:21:50,879 --> 02:21:51,440
Speaker 3: excuse for this.

2828
02:21:52,840 --> 02:21:56,760
Speaker 4: Maybe he's maybe his grand baby or somebody gave him

2829
02:21:57,320 --> 02:21:58,599
Speaker 4: that the Disney.

2830
02:21:58,720 --> 02:22:01,039
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know, but it wasn't a nickname.

2831
02:22:01,080 --> 02:22:02,080
Speaker 3: It's his real middle name.

2832
02:22:02,400 --> 02:22:08,080
Speaker 2: Oh wow, all right, let's go to uh sore ratchetness

2833
02:22:08,200 --> 02:22:09,280
Speaker 2: and we'll get out of here.

2834
02:22:09,360 --> 02:22:09,680
Speaker 4: Guys.

2835
02:22:11,320 --> 02:22:13,000
Speaker 2: As soon as I found it, what was it that

2836
02:22:13,680 --> 02:22:36,840
Speaker 2: there we go? I guess they should have got out

2837
02:22:36,879 --> 02:22:39,679
Speaker 2: of the house because it was Disney's.

2838
02:22:39,280 --> 02:22:48,000
Speaker 4: Land, all right. Yeah, that's what happened when you mess

2839
02:22:48,000 --> 02:22:49,520
Speaker 4: around with the Magical World of Disney.

2840
02:22:55,840 --> 02:22:57,720
Speaker 3: When the police came over, he was trying to run.

2841
02:22:57,800 --> 02:23:04,600
Speaker 3: They was like, halt Disney, all right.

2842
02:23:08,760 --> 02:23:11,879
Speaker 2: A man cut a man cuts his brother with a sword.

2843
02:23:12,360 --> 02:23:16,119
Speaker 2: All yeah, blood sticking in water, but it ain't thick

2844
02:23:16,160 --> 02:23:20,680
Speaker 2: it in swords. Police have a twenty two year old

2845
02:23:20,720 --> 02:23:22,960
Speaker 2: man in cussy after stand off in West Bend. According

2846
02:23:22,959 --> 02:23:25,520
Speaker 2: to authority's suspect cut his brother with a sword and

2847
02:23:25,600 --> 02:23:27,640
Speaker 2: threatening with a gun around two am on Sunday. The

2848
02:23:28,920 --> 02:23:31,480
Speaker 2: victim was found outside the home by police would have

2849
02:23:31,520 --> 02:23:34,600
Speaker 2: cut to his stomach. The West ben PD Special Response

2850
02:23:34,760 --> 02:23:37,840
Speaker 2: Unit was dispatched to the scene at Hand Street. As

2851
02:23:37,959 --> 02:23:40,360
Speaker 2: officers arrived, the suspect refused to come out and threaten

2852
02:23:40,400 --> 02:23:42,959
Speaker 2: to kill any people that entered the house. He texted

2853
02:23:43,080 --> 02:23:45,120
Speaker 2: a picture of himself the police holding a hand gun

2854
02:23:46,000 --> 02:23:48,920
Speaker 2: he texted to him. Police evacuated the neighborhood homes with

2855
02:23:48,959 --> 02:23:50,520
Speaker 2: our incident. He's a rented and was taken in the

2856
02:23:50,560 --> 02:23:53,960
Speaker 2: custry around five thirty am. Police recovered three handguns, two

2857
02:23:54,040 --> 02:23:56,520
Speaker 2: long guns and a sword from the house. Suspects charged

2858
02:23:56,600 --> 02:23:58,640
Speaker 2: reckless endangerment and fell into a bay.

2859
02:23:58,640 --> 02:24:02,560
Speaker 3: Officer. That's it. His name will be made public during

2860
02:24:02,560 --> 02:24:03,680
Speaker 3: the quarter pairs on Monday.

2861
02:24:03,800 --> 02:24:04,680
Speaker 4: Oh white, his.

2862
02:24:04,800 --> 02:24:07,160
Speaker 3: Name will be made public. Yeah, I don't have a race,

2863
02:24:07,280 --> 02:24:10,879
Speaker 3: but probably all right. We'll be back tomorrow.

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02:24:11,040 --> 02:24:11,360
Speaker 6: Guys.

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02:24:11,440 --> 02:24:13,400
Speaker 3: Thank you so much for listening to the show. We

2866
02:24:13,480 --> 02:24:14,520
Speaker 3: really appreciate y'all.

2867
02:24:15,600 --> 02:24:21,960
Speaker 2: Until then, People Magazine is bullshit because Karen should be

2868
02:24:22,000 --> 02:24:23,480
Speaker 2: on the cover because you're the most beautiful woman in

2869
02:24:23,560 --> 02:24:23,879
Speaker 2: the world.

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02:24:24,040 --> 02:24:27,280
Speaker 3: Oh, we'll talk to you all tomorrow. I love you.