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Speaker 1: And that's what you really missed with Jenna.

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Speaker 2: And Kevin an iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 1: Podcast Welcome to you, and that's what you really miss podcasts.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, you have the original, original, original original

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Speaker 1: Tracy Turnbot here.

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Speaker 2: When we emailed her, she emailed our producer and was like,

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Speaker 2: you know I'm not in the film, right, Like.

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Speaker 1: Yes, they know that I'm not in the film.

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Speaker 2: Yes, we want to talk to you, O g Tracy.

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Speaker 1: We know.

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Speaker 2: Because that's what we're doing. We can talk to whoever

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Speaker 2: we want and we're going full out on hairspray here.

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Speaker 3: Hello.

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Speaker 1: Yes, it's just a good conversation. She's amazing. The journey

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Speaker 1: is crazy. She's now directing a production as well. You

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Speaker 1: have to go see it if you're in the LA

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Speaker 1: area and enjoy.

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Speaker 3: Hi guys, Hi, how are you?

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Speaker 2: You were so excited to talk to you because one

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Speaker 2: just massive fans of you in general, Yeah, thank you,

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Speaker 2: and massive fans of all forms of hairspray.

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Speaker 4: I mean there's so many now, it's like literally I

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Speaker 4: always say, it's like the gift that keeps on giving.

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Speaker 3: Man, it like never happen.

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Speaker 5: That's what we say about Glee, so right, like it

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Speaker 5: like never it's like it just never stops. Oh no,

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Speaker 5: like just when you think you can't do anything more,

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Speaker 5: you're like, oh, now there's a reunion special or like right,

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Speaker 5: or like no, I totally feel that where like somebody

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Speaker 5: wins a Tony and then they're.

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Speaker 3: Like everybody in Glee has wanted copy.

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Speaker 4: Right, Like every like no matter what, it's like when one,

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Speaker 4: when one succeeds, all succeeds.

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Speaker 2: Right exactly. It's like when you're part of something, like

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Speaker 2: it's the biggest well, like Matty came into like Matt

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Speaker 2: and Jane came into it having done bigger things, Like

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Speaker 2: for all of us, it was like the biggest thing

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Speaker 4: No, Lee was the I mean sure Matt had done

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Speaker 4: But really no, like think about it, like, yes, she

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Speaker 4: done big things, but like it's like, yeah, that's like

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Speaker 4: from my generation. It's like that's nine two and oh

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Speaker 4: Tory Spelling and like that that was always going to

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Speaker 4: like it will never be you know for me Marissa,

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Speaker 4: and you know what I mean, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Well, speaking of yes, we have to go back to

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Speaker 2: Let's go take us back.

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Speaker 1: You're still in it now, but yeah.

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Speaker 4: We're going to get it's always right, It's always life.

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Speaker 4: I literally like mark date like I can mark times

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Speaker 3: Like it's so crazy.

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Speaker 1: So I mean dig us back to earlier like cre Hairspray?

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Speaker 4: I was like the crazy person who literally I was

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Speaker 4: I did Greece on Broadway for four years. I was

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Speaker 4: I've never seen anything like at Covid ruined that bar

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Speaker 2: This is what you're here for. This is great.

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Speaker 1: But how many musicals do you now workshop where you

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Speaker 4: They It was like they're so I mean, market Scott

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Speaker 4: Thank god, I have the most amazing choreographer with me,

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Speaker 3: Because it's like, wow, that's all.

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Speaker 3: Choreographed the movie as well? Yeah, like he did.

443
00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:39,760
Speaker 1: Well, he had choreographed the whole thing before they started,

444
00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:43,680
Speaker 1: and that way he wasn't waiting like you because it

445
00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:48,000
Speaker 1: is so music heavy with the ensemble. It's crazy.

446
00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:52,000
Speaker 4: It's so it's so every it's like a banger after banger,

447
00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:54,960
Speaker 4: and it's funny because you're like after Baltimore, You're like, well, Okay,

448
00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:56,880
Speaker 4: that's the best number ever, and then you're like wait,

449
00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:59,360
Speaker 4: we're following up that with nicest kids in town. That's

450
00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:02,119
Speaker 4: the next number that's not even like the big number.

451
00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:04,200
Speaker 4: And then you're like, oh my god, and I'm Niceana.

452
00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:04,840
Speaker 3: Now it goes right in.

453
00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:06,200
Speaker 4: And then you're like, oh my god. And now we're

454
00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:07,920
Speaker 4: at sixties, and now we're it was like mama and

455
00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:10,600
Speaker 4: a big girl. Now then sixties. Then you're like literally

456
00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:12,600
Speaker 4: run until that and you're like, oh my god, and

457
00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:14,600
Speaker 4: a big blond and beautiful, and you're like one is over.

458
00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:17,280
Speaker 3: And you're like nobody said anything.

459
00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:20,720
Speaker 4: Moving, Like I'm like, oh my gosh, I'm like, hey,

460
00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:22,240
Speaker 4: can I poel you guys for seen? Then I'll be

461
00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:25,560
Speaker 4: like here's a half a page. Okay, that's you're blocking, great,

462
00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:29,960
Speaker 4: go back to Clarice. Like I'm like, this is crazy.

463
00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:32,720
Speaker 2: But it's crazy that it works. So you get the

464
00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:35,920
Speaker 2: full story. You feel like you know every character, every

465
00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:38,840
Speaker 2: character's intention, what they all add to the group. And

466
00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:42,440
Speaker 2: yet there's it's so efficient and all music really.

467
00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:45,199
Speaker 1: Does move the story. There's a lot of musicals you're like, right,

468
00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:47,880
Speaker 1: there's nowhere else to go but to sing, but like

469
00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:52,600
Speaker 1: this moves the story in such a beautiful way, and

470
00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:55,800
Speaker 1: like that's the thing with like TV, uh, you know,

471
00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:58,720
Speaker 1: musical TV shows that you kind of run into where

472
00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:02,120
Speaker 1: you're like, right, stuck this one in because you know whatever,

473
00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:05,640
Speaker 1: they like the song. But like Hairspray, it's just it's perfect,

474
00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:08,600
Speaker 1: it's perfect. The film was perfect, this age person's perfect.

475
00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:11,760
Speaker 3: It's perfect. It's perfectly perfect.

476
00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:16,960
Speaker 4: And so it's like it just never it's it doesn't stop,

477
00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:19,480
Speaker 4: like I just don't understand it. Like it's funny because

478
00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:22,199
Speaker 4: like when I actually feel like being in it is

479
00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:24,480
Speaker 4: less exhausting than directing it because I'm just like staring

480
00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:27,280
Speaker 4: at it like, oh my god, this is so exhaust

481
00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:32,840
Speaker 4: Like I'm literally like I'm so ignausted, Like you guys

482
00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:33,720
Speaker 4: are working.

483
00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:34,720
Speaker 2: So so hard.

484
00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:38,600
Speaker 1: I want to talk about the directing more too, But

485
00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:42,520
Speaker 1: I'm curious, like along the way the process of you know,

486
00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:45,200
Speaker 1: doing the readings out of town, coming to New York,

487
00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,159
Speaker 1: when did it hit for you that you were like,

488
00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:51,000
Speaker 1: oh this is really special or did it like when

489
00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:51,840
Speaker 1: was that moment?

490
00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:52,280
Speaker 3: Right?

491
00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:57,159
Speaker 4: Well, Like it's funny because through my journey of Hairspray,

492
00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:59,120
Speaker 4: like it's such a like and I don't want I

493
00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:01,680
Speaker 4: do not want to lie like sidebar and deep dive

494
00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:04,800
Speaker 4: into this but it's like during like between the third

495
00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:08,080
Speaker 4: reading and the fourth reading, I got cancer, so that

496
00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:11,160
Speaker 4: like I know, it's like I'm like and I talk

497
00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:13,480
Speaker 4: about it a lot, and it's like it's not boring,

498
00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:15,600
Speaker 4: but it's just like a part of my story. But

499
00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:18,000
Speaker 4: it's like between the reading three and reading four, I

500
00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:20,200
Speaker 4: got cancer. So then all of a sudden, I was like,

501
00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:24,720
Speaker 4: I was like I had done reading three and I'm like, oh,

502
00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:26,240
Speaker 4: I love this show and I love it and this

503
00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:27,560
Speaker 4: is great and this is so much fun. And I

504
00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:29,160
Speaker 4: live in Los Angeles and I fly to New York

505
00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:30,520
Speaker 4: and I do this little music hall and then I

506
00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:32,879
Speaker 4: fly home. Then I got cancer, and I was like,

507
00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:37,720
Speaker 4: oh my gosh, all my dreams, everything I want to do.

508
00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:40,440
Speaker 4: My purpose on this planet was to do musical theater,

509
00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:42,480
Speaker 4: like I grew up wanting to be ethel Mermon, like

510
00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:44,560
Speaker 4: that is all I wanted to do. Like TV and

511
00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:46,600
Speaker 4: film was like because of the bar Mitzva food right,

512
00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:48,679
Speaker 4: like it was like like you were getting paid, you

513
00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:49,760
Speaker 4: could live better.

514
00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:52,640
Speaker 2: And I was I was like, yeah, I was so.

515
00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:54,879
Speaker 4: Happy, you know, like so it was so much more

516
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:58,560
Speaker 4: like exciting. And then all of a sudden, like I remember,

517
00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:01,480
Speaker 4: like I would be doing like treatments or MRIs and

518
00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:03,160
Speaker 4: I would like just start at the beginning of hair

519
00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,960
Speaker 4: Spray in my head, and I would like do the

520
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:06,360
Speaker 4: whole show.

521
00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:07,680
Speaker 3: I would start a Good Morning Baltimore.

522
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:09,240
Speaker 4: I would like sing the whole show in my head,

523
00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:10,679
Speaker 4: like and I'd be in there for like, you know,

524
00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:13,199
Speaker 4: sometimes three hours, sometimes four hours, like just and I

525
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:16,639
Speaker 4: would literally just start at the show, get through the

526
00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,399
Speaker 4: whole show. I would like try to remember what I forgot,

527
00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:21,199
Speaker 4: you know, like I would just like in my headwork

528
00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,320
Speaker 4: on the show. And during that time, I really was

529
00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:26,399
Speaker 4: working with Eric Vitro on finding Tracy's voice because I

530
00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:30,400
Speaker 4: knew I couldn't sustain a turn half hour show at

531
00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,600
Speaker 4: my like Broadway Belting of like Jam like Jan just

532
00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:36,120
Speaker 4: who cares? When Jan, you know, in Grease Belts, You're

533
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:37,720
Speaker 4: like she's sayings who cares? Like if I could go

534
00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,200
Speaker 4: in Jan with one hundred and two fever, you know

535
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:42,320
Speaker 4: what I mean. But like I knew, I knew I

536
00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:44,239
Speaker 4: had to like fight for the role too, because they

537
00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:46,920
Speaker 4: were auditioning through all this time, and I knew I

538
00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:49,359
Speaker 4: couldn't tell anybody I had cancer because if I told anybody,

539
00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:50,040
Speaker 4: they would one.

540
00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:50,919
Speaker 3: Hundred percent replace me.

541
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,600
Speaker 4: Like by the way, I like now that I am

542
00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:55,480
Speaker 4: like producing and directing, I'm like, oh yeah, I would

543
00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,480
Speaker 4: want one hundred percent replace that girl. If she's like, oh,

544
00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:00,680
Speaker 4: like anything like I might have have a little surgery,

545
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:02,320
Speaker 4: I'd be like, you're relace, Like I don't have that

546
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:05,639
Speaker 4: for it, you know, Like I totally understand, like like

547
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:09,840
Speaker 4: my thought process was correct, but so all of a sudden,

548
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:12,480
Speaker 4: it's it's interesting, Like it went from like, yay, I

549
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:13,960
Speaker 4: want to do hair Spaces, I want to be a star,

550
00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,159
Speaker 4: to like, I need to do this show.

551
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:18,040
Speaker 3: It literally was the thing.

552
00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:21,720
Speaker 4: That like like even talking about like it made me

553
00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:25,080
Speaker 4: like half like I had to do the show and

554
00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:27,840
Speaker 4: it was like what kept me healthy and strong and

555
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:31,000
Speaker 4: pushing through anything I had to get through physically through,

556
00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:33,120
Speaker 4: you know, and I was like I have to get better.

557
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:35,360
Speaker 4: My eye was on the prize and I and then

558
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,159
Speaker 4: so everything like shifted. Then so by the time we

559
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:41,520
Speaker 4: did the fourth Hairspray reading and then went into rehearsal

560
00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:45,240
Speaker 4: of it, it was like every like I had such

561
00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:47,959
Speaker 4: a deeper feeling about the show. Then it was just

562
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,200
Speaker 4: like I want to be a star like Marissa before

563
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:51,880
Speaker 4: cancer and Marissa after cancer.

564
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:53,760
Speaker 3: Are like two very different beings.

565
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:55,960
Speaker 4: Like the girl who showed up in American beauty parties

566
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:57,520
Speaker 4: with like flowers in her hair because you just thought

567
00:24:57,560 --> 00:24:59,560
Speaker 4: she needed to, you know, could do that.

568
00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 3: This this person was like, oh my gosh.

569
00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:05,199
Speaker 4: The reason that I bought the cancer in time, the

570
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 4: reason I was is because I meant to do this,

571
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,160
Speaker 4: and I like, I'm gonna do this, you know, And

572
00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:17,120
Speaker 4: so everything became so much less about less about being

573
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 4: like a Broadway star and more about like living out

574
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:20,359
Speaker 4: my dream.

575
00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 3: Yeah you know, you know.

576
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:23,200
Speaker 7: Yeah.

577
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:26,399
Speaker 4: And so so when we were in Seattle, we were

578
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:28,919
Speaker 4: out of town in Seattle, and always always we were like,

579
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 4: I mean, it's hair spray. Who's gonna really like are

580
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:33,639
Speaker 4: we anyone going to really take this seriously? Like we

581
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:35,639
Speaker 4: all were like, I mean, this is fun and the

582
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,679
Speaker 4: music is amazing, but like our who knows what the

583
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 4: audience is going to think? You know, And like if

584
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:43,360
Speaker 4: you link back to times two just for your audience,

585
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 4: like this is like we're not even a year from

586
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:49,240
Speaker 4: September eleventh, Like we like September eleventh with two thousand

587
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:51,560
Speaker 4: and one, so we were opening not even a We

588
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:53,960
Speaker 4: opened like eight months later. Like it was like we

589
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,360
Speaker 4: were like the first like we were like coming back

590
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 4: to New York in a time that New York was.

591
00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 3: Like depressed and sad and scared. So Hairspray really was

592
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:04,159
Speaker 3: like a lightning bolt, you know.

593
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,639
Speaker 4: It was really like everything lined up in the stars

594
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 4: the right timing. People wanted to feel good, people cared

595
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,120
Speaker 4: about what was going on in the world, but also

596
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:16,119
Speaker 4: wanting to like laugh and have fun. So we were

597
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:20,720
Speaker 4: in Seattle and we opening night of Seattle. I did

598
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:24,359
Speaker 4: Good Morning Baltimore and literally, like Carrie always tells the story,

599
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:29,159
Speaker 4: like we were literally the audience stop and jump to

600
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 4: its feet after just Good Morning Baltimore, and literally we

601
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,360
Speaker 4: were all like, oh my god, we're in.

602
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 3: A hit, Like we like knew it at that exact home.

603
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:39,919
Speaker 3: It was like, yeah it was.

604
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:43,240
Speaker 4: And I don't really remember that because I was so

605
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 4: in it and just being Tracy, But Carrie and Laura

606
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 4: tell the story all the time like they were like

607
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:51,479
Speaker 4: everybody was just on stage like oh my god, Like

608
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,560
Speaker 4: the audience was like on its feet for like in

609
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:57,640
Speaker 4: the first preview after Good Morning Baltimore, and like after

610
00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 4: that it was just like go go, go, go go,

611
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:03,119
Speaker 4: you know, so like we all knew at that moment

612
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 4: that it was like the most special thing any of

613
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 4: us had ever done and we're ever going to.

614
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 2: Do, you know, Oh my god, it's yeah, it's so

615
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 2: wow beautiful to be able to, even if you were

616
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 2: in it, to have other people like witnessing that moment,

617
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 2: because it's so hard to be present, especially when you've

618
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 2: done for readings or whatever it may be, you've gone cancer,

619
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 2: gotten through the cancer, like your journey, just to even

620
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 2: get to that first preview, yeah, was so intense.

621
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 4: And then and then like also like I mean, you

622
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:37,000
Speaker 4: guys all know, I mean all Glee fans know the

623
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 4: Laura of Matt Morrison, who like literally we.

624
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:41,920
Speaker 3: Like had a different link.

625
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 4: And then when we were in Seattle, like two weeks

626
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:48,160
Speaker 4: before we opened in Seattle, that link was like I'm

627
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,359
Speaker 4: leaving to go do a Spielberg movie or something. I

628
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:53,359
Speaker 4: don't know, it was like a movie. And then literally Matt.

629
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 4: I was like, I think Matt is really hot. You

630
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 4: should make him link and they were like, honestly, they

631
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 4: were just trying to make me happy at that time,

632
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,399
Speaker 4: because I was like a bundle of anxiety and I

633
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 4: was like.

634
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 3: I like Matt, he's hot. He's hot.

635
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 4: That's hot, Like it's so crazy like that always talks

636
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,160
Speaker 4: about He's like Marissa literally like made them make me Link.

637
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 3: Like I was like, he's so hot. Look at his hair.

638
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 3: Isn't he cute? Like make him just being like rushy

639
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 3: on the chorus boy.

640
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,119
Speaker 4: So then they made Matt Link for me, Like I

641
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 4: honestly think that was like Margot Lyon's gift to me

642
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,440
Speaker 4: to be like, well, yeah, he's totally hot, so bring

643
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 4: him up to Link and he like nobody danced better than.

644
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 3: Thatt, Like no, yeah, you know.

645
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 4: So then like and then that's how we got John Hill,

646
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 4: who like came in to like be Fender Link's part.

647
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 3: You know. But it was like two weeks. I remember

648
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 3: like going out for.

649
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 4: Dinner with Matt in some like steakhouse, just trying to

650
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 4: be like, oh, we have to like know each other

651
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 4: now because we're about to do this show together.

652
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 3: You know. It's like so silly, so fun.

653
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then like Matt and all of that, it's like,

654
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 4: you know, it's like where Matt took off from that

655
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 4: because of you know.

656
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 3: It's like so like I always say to.

657
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 4: People, I'm like, you never know what your job is

658
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 4: and your job, like just do your job because like

659
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 4: you don't know, you.

660
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Speaker 2: Know, I was just thinking about that because you know,

661
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 2: as naive or like as silly as it may be

662
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 2: to like think about yourself as the girl from American

663
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 2: Beauty or who like went out for a wedding and

664
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Speaker 2: like booked a movie or a TV role, and like

665
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 2: how and you know, looking back as full grown adults,

666
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 2: of like how insane that might have been of how

667
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 2: we acted in that time. But had you not done

668
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 2: any of those things, have you not had the gall

669
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Speaker 2: to show up to those parties to be your full self,

670
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 2: Like you would not have gotten into hairspray and had

671
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 2: not taken whatever journey he did to be in a

672
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 2: chorus boy? Yeah, you know, and like you just it's

673
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 2: it's very true, and it's I think you paint such

674
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 2: a like a clear picture of that the meaning of

675
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 2: like you just never ever know and also like being

676
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 2: good to people. It's like you when you're in a

677
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 2: position to like, oh, we all of a sudden need

678
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 2: someone to play this part.

679
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 3: Yeah you know he's right here.

680
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh no, I feel like that's like my like

681
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 4: I don't know, like and I wouldn't say gift, but

682
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 4: my like, I feel like I'm always the person who's

683
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 4: like trying, always trying to like you know, and I wait,

684
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 4: I'm sure like that, you know you see it in

685
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 4: like why like you'll like you'll see a movie and

686
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 4: you're like, oh, I can't believe they're working together again.

687
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 4: But I'm always like if I'm doing like a silly

688
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 4: show somewhere, I'm always bringing my friends, Like I'm like,

689
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 4: how do my friends, Like how do we all keep

690
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 4: working together?

691
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 3: And I always tell like young kids.

692
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 4: Like work with people your age and have fun with

693
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 4: them and then all you'll all grow together, Like you

694
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 4: can just keep growing together. And like Laura Belle and

695
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 4: me and Carrie like did our like we wrote that

696
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 4: show Mam and Big Girl Now that we like toured

697
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 4: and then we did it off Broadway last year, you know,

698
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 4: and got a Drama Desk nomination for which we're ridiculously

699
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 4: proud of because we didn't even know that was a thing.

700
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 4: I was getting my hair colored and they were like,

701
00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 4: we just got nominated for a drama desk.

702
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 3: I'm like what, cat Like I was so confused. I

703
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 3: would like I didn't even know that we could be

704
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 3: like like.

705
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 4: I like love doing the show with them because for

706
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 4: my thing, like I just love showing other like performers

707
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 4: and girls, even young girls out there that like And

708
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 4: they always make fun of me because I say this

709
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 4: a lot, But it's like the three of us are

710
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 4: like such shiny pennies, all three of us, right, Like

711
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 4: Laura Bell is such a.

712
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 3: Diva, and carry Butler is such an icon.

713
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 4: And then I'm you know, a lunatic, but like the

714
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 4: three of us together, I'm like, but you can. I'm

715
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 4: like showing that, like women can like support and love

716
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 4: each other and work together and have friendships and like

717
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 4: carry them through. And even though like we've all been

718
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 4: up for same roles and one of us gets it

719
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 4: and like for TV, it's crazy Laura and I have

720
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 4: been up for so many of the same roles, and

721
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 4: like for for Broadway, like Carrie's like dumb the reading and.

722
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 3: Laura's dumb the show, like you know what I mean.

723
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 4: Like and it's like, but we still are like so

724
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 4: supportive and love each other that I like feel like

725
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 4: it's so important to show that. Like it's not about

726
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 4: like we're not against each other. It's like obviously if

727
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 4: you want me or don't want Laura Bell, like it

728
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 4: has nothing to do with Laura Bell, or if you

729
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 4: want Laura Bell, like if you're hiring Carrie Butler for something,

730
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 4: like I was never right in for yeah you know

731
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 4: what I mean. And you were like, I want a type,

732
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 4: so you're like, here's a type. But I like love

733
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 4: touring with it and like showing young girls in theater,

734
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 4: like and I always talk about it that, like, because

735
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 4: theater is such a it's such a competitive sport in

736
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 4: a way that like tennis is like you're always up

737
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 4: against your best friend. Like you know, my son plays tennis,

738
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 4: so I'm I always think compare it to tennis.

739
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 2: But it's like that is a great comparison you want.

740
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 4: You're like, oh my gosh, I want him to win.

741
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 4: But then if he wins, I've got to play, you know.

742
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 4: It's like I want her to I want her to

743
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 4: get that part and death becomes her. But if she

744
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 4: gets that part, you know.

745
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 3: But like there's a room for everybody, Like there really is.

746
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 1: And if you understand like the business model side of things, right,

747
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 1: you can support each other on the other side, right,

748
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 1: like tennis, you know how it works. You know, when

749
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 1: you get on you know court, you know, all everything

750
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 1: goes out the window. But like right, right, yeah.

751
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 2: Today's not your day. Then, like there's going to be

752
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 2: another match, There's going to be another audition, another show.

753
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 4: There's going to be twenty more Broadway shows next year

754
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 4: exactly that are not going to that are going to

755
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 4: be closed in a week, you know what.

756
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 3: Exactly?

757
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that takes I think just like maturity

758
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 2: and time working in there. And so I feel like

759
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 2: we talked about it a little bit earlier about you

760
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 2: directing another version of Hairspray, which I want to talk about,

761
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 2: but I also feel like you as a director, because

762
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 2: you have this history of that of working with your friends,

763
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 2: supporting people working with their friends, encouraging that that you

764
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 2: must I feel like you must be like a really

765
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 2: wonderful director for these kids, for the people coming in

766
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 2: to do this. So tell us about this production of

767
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 2: Parispury you're directing.

768
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Speaker 4: Well, I mean I like to I would like, I mean,

769
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 4: I like to think I'm awesome. Now though that I

770
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 4: realize how much it's about choreography and less about direction,

771
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 4: I'm like, oh I'm not nearly doing now. I just

772
00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 4: feel like I'm like a line producer because I think

773
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 4: gizing all day long, like.

774
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 3: I'm like what we need in Facebook?

775
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm And also just like like figuring out the

776
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 4: schedule of like if we get this done today, then

777
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 4: we can get that done.

778
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:11,440
Speaker 3: And who I need and who I don't need.

779
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:14,280
Speaker 4: Like what I'm really really good at is and I'm

780
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:17,280
Speaker 4: sure you both understand this well, is like never calling

781
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,440
Speaker 4: someone in to sit, like I'm very good at like

782
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 4: I would.

783
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 2: Yes, director, people would rather have to.

784
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 4: Put somebody in because I should have called them in

785
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 4: them have someone sit there for four hours and be

786
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 4: like what am I doing here?

787
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 6: You know?

788
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 4: So like I'm very conscious of my call of my

789
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 4: schedule like that I'm very good at. I'm very good

790
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 4: at in hairspray, particular like being able to like bring

791
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 4: it back to like like I think hairspray. What's most

792
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 4: important about hairspray is like like I know where I've

793
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:50,399
Speaker 4: been that number when motormouth sings that number, I I

794
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,759
Speaker 4: believe that all of the pretty colors and all of

795
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 4: you know, the fact girl wanting to dance with the

796
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 4: boy is all just the trojan horse to get to

797
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,760
Speaker 4: I know where I've been, right, So like I believe

798
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:04,320
Speaker 4: the entire show is to teach the lesson of segregation

799
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 4: in the sixties and like, holy shit, like I know

800
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 4: where I've been, Like I've got I've come so far,

801
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 4: but we have so far to go. And of course,

802
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 4: in the climate we're in right now, it's like the

803
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 4: story is completely the same, nothing has changed, right, So

804
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,799
Speaker 4: I believe that, like in the like Candy Apple of

805
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 4: like Tracy Turnblad with Silly Mom, really the importance of

806
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 4: Hairspray is getting to the story of the set of

807
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:31,400
Speaker 4: segregation and teaching the new audiences through the comedy and

808
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 4: fun learning, right, That's what the story is about. So

809
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:38,400
Speaker 4: I think that a lot of times, a lot of

810
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 4: a lot of companies will skate by that because it's

811
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 4: like hard, or they don't really know what to do,

812
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 4: or we're scared.

813
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:46,359
Speaker 3: To talk about it.

814
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 4: And I'm not saying that I'm like leaning into it

815
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,280
Speaker 4: any more than we leaned into it, but I'm definitely

816
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 4: not letting the company not know, like this is the

817
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:56,879
Speaker 4: this is the important part of the show. So we

818
00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 4: like this is like everything is up in the up

819
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 4: to this part of the show, or like detention when

820
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 4: Tracy and see we'd meet for the turry first time

821
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,400
Speaker 4: and dance, and Tracy's literally like, well, why aren't you

822
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:08,840
Speaker 4: can't we dance on the show together?

823
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 3: And it's she's not trying to change the world.

824
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 4: She's actually doesn't understand and what's so what I find

825
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 4: and like being able to direct it. It's like remembering

826
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:23,360
Speaker 4: those nuances of Hairspray, like where yes where It's like,

827
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 4: it's not like we're not hitting you over the head

828
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 4: with a story.

829
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:28,880
Speaker 3: Just trust the words and say the words.

830
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 4: Because Tracy doesn't mean to change the world until she

831
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 4: like is oh, okay, I'm changing the world because there's

832
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:40,799
Speaker 4: something so much more beautiful about a teenage girl who

833
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:43,760
Speaker 4: doesn't think there's anything to change.

834
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:45,799
Speaker 3: And then it's like, oh there is. She learns and

835
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 3: then she's like, well, let's fix that.

836
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 4: Rather than like she's not a suffer jette, she's not

837
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 4: like she really does want to dance.

838
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:55,880
Speaker 2: She's like, oh, this seems wrong, let's just fix it.

839
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:57,799
Speaker 3: Like that seems wrong. How do we take that?

840
00:36:57,920 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 2: Okay?

841
00:36:58,480 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 6: You know?

842
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 3: Like and I love that n like the naivete.

843
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 4: Naivity is the word, like whatever that word is for

844
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 4: like a sixteen year old and I have I'm like

845
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:10,359
Speaker 4: my son's now seventeen, and like I see it in

846
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,879
Speaker 4: those kids and like that generation where they're like, well,

847
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 4: why don't we just fix it?

848
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,280
Speaker 3: Like why are we? Why aren't we just changing things?

849
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:17,879
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

850
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:22,400
Speaker 4: But not like posting a thousand posts and not quotes

851
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 4: after quotes after they're like, well why don't we?

852
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 3: Why is it like that? You know?

853
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 4: And I think that there's something like I tried to

854
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:30,840
Speaker 4: go as young as I could when my cast. I

855
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 4: actually in this cast have a fifteen year old who's

856
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 4: playing Ipew, a sixteen year old who's playing Shelley, and

857
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:39,840
Speaker 4: a twelve year old that's playing Little i Nes And

858
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 4: I like love having these kids in a very safe

859
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 4: theatrical environment, getting to work with a little older but

860
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 4: not like everyone's really young, really really young in my cast,

861
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 4: because that's when it's shown me, you know.

862
00:37:54,600 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. I'm curious, Like, because you've been so deeply

863
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 1: embedded in Hairspray for so long as Tracy, how do

864
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 1: you remove yourself from allowing her to play Tracy like

865
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 1: and allowing Lexi to just do what she does right, well,

866
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:18,399
Speaker 1: do best news?

867
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 4: She Well, I went in like day one and I

868
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:22,800
Speaker 4: was like, well, I'm gonna have to get her a

869
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,360
Speaker 4: known on that, because that's not right, you know, Like

870
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:28,719
Speaker 4: literally day one, I was like, well, i mean she

871
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 4: like that's like or like or she'll do a line

872
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 4: reading and I'm like, well, that's not the intention. And

873
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 4: then like I started realizing, I'm like, oh my god,

874
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 4: not realizing, but like letting, like I wasn't giving because

875
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 4: I'm also a person who's like if you come in

876
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 4: and give line readings and know it's day one, day two,

877
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,759
Speaker 4: day three, people get scared to try. And I'm like, yeah,

878
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 4: I even keep saying to them, I'm like, I'd rather

879
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 4: you guys try.

880
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:52,400
Speaker 3: Like crazy big swings.

881
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then I'll and then then then be scared,

882
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 4: like because yeah, there's nothing worse than a timid actor

883
00:38:57,719 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 4: or performer, right, So, like I don't get I have

884
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 4: very like I really wait to give notes until every

885
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 4: time I've ever directed, and this in particular and this specifically,

886
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 4: I kind of wait until we're like running the show

887
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 4: unless it's like really like you're really.

888
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,239
Speaker 3: Off, because I don't want to know as.

889
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 4: An actress, like it's intimidating because then it's now I'm

890
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:18,439
Speaker 4: just performing for the director, and it's like, I don't

891
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 4: even know my lines yet, you know.

892
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 1: You let me figure it out.

893
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah.

894
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 4: Like and you and usually if you hire the right

895
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 4: I mean, if you hire the you're you're directing, If

896
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 4: you hire the right actors, you're gonna get what you want.

897
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 3: That being said as being Tracy.

898
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 4: It's very hard because I'm like my ear it wants

899
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 4: to hear a line like for example, like like like,

900
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 4: oh Link, if if fate makes you throw a ball

901
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:47,319
Speaker 4: at me today, seal it with a kiss, right, And

902
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:50,279
Speaker 4: I did it very like, oh Nate, oh Link, you know,

903
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 4: oh god, if they it makes you throw a bullet

904
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:54,879
Speaker 4: me today, seal it with a kiss.

905
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:58,799
Speaker 3: Like very dreamy and quiet and to myself. And she's

906
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,800
Speaker 3: like for got like super like if they makes you

907
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 3: throw a ball at me today, stealing with the kids.

908
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:05,800
Speaker 3: And I'm like, oh my god, that's totally crazy.

909
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:09,439
Speaker 4: But then literally i want to say like three days

910
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 4: then I'm like, oh my god, that's hilarious. Like what

911
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 4: she's doing is so funny and like it's a and

912
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:17,840
Speaker 4: her Tracy is going through a different journey than my Tracy,

913
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 4: and she's so like resent in a like I'm again

914
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 4: like I always come at things like from a I

915
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 4: think through everything, like I'm such a planned actress, like

916
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 4: especially in musicals or plays like a TV. You know,

917
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 4: we're just like, oh, we just do it and hope

918
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 4: they got it right. But I like I flipped my

919
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 4: purse the same way every time, Like I'm like, I

920
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 4: like my mom tells me, no, my feet tell me go,

921
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 4: Like I know exactly what I did, you know what

922
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:48,399
Speaker 4: I mean, Like I can do it today, yes, And

923
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 4: she's coming from such a like different place of like

924
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 4: just like like I can't even it's like honesty and

925
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:01,359
Speaker 4: like like she's just so sweet and fun and like

926
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 4: and honestly like a little more like gen Z, you

927
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 4: know what I mean. Like she's just like much more

928
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:10,360
Speaker 4: like like confident. And then sometimes I was like, you know,

929
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:13,400
Speaker 4: I chose I would be like I would choose to

930
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:15,319
Speaker 4: not hear Amber say that, because then I would feel

931
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:17,240
Speaker 4: like I'd have to react to that. So as an actress,

932
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 4: I was like, if I don't hear her, I don't

933
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,400
Speaker 4: have to react, and She's like, or I just don't react,

934
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 4: and I was like, yeah, let's try it that way,

935
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 4: like and I'm like, right, because you are in a

936
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:30,320
Speaker 4: different body in a different world, coming from a different place,

937
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 4: and you maybe don't find that as offensive as I'm Marisa,

938
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 4: you know what i mean. Like so many times, like

939
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 4: my like Edna would say something mean to me, and

940
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 4: I'm like, if I hear that and understand that, I

941
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 4: have to respond to that, So I would like choose

942
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 4: to like be looking at plenty and missing it sometimes,

943
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 4: you know, like there were different things and I'm like,

944
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 4: you know what, so as Tracy, it's been like a

945
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:55,479
Speaker 4: very interesting like everybody else, I can like, oh my god,

946
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 4: I'm that's hilarious.

947
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 3: I've never seen it like that. I love that choice.

948
00:41:58,160 --> 00:41:59,839
Speaker 4: But she's like it took me a couple of days

949
00:41:59,880 --> 00:42:03,400
Speaker 4: and now I'm like I'm obsessed with her, like just

950
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 4: nitivity and her like optimism in a different and just

951
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 4: like and she's like, well break like she's like ready

952
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 4: to rumble and like.

953
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 3: I love it.

954
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 4: So like it's been really like interesting being able to

955
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 4: be like that's it.

956
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 3: It's a great choice. I didn't see it that way.

957
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 3: That's a great choice.

958
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:21,879
Speaker 4: Like good, like good on you, you know what I mean,

959
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 4: Like it's cool, it's so fun.

960
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah, it's also like a testament of how good

961
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 2: the show is is that people can come in in

962
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 2: their own bodies and experiences and love these parts in

963
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:36,360
Speaker 2: a very different way and it still works. Yeah.

964
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.

965
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 4: I mean it's so funny because I'm like, yeah, there's

966
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 4: like eighty thousand traces now the one thing that I

967
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 4: wanted to like make sure there was only one me.

968
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 4: Now I'm like, oh my god, this could be done

969
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 4: by like it's so beautiful. It's like, so there's so many.

970
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 4: And I remember doing the show and thinking, oh my god,

971
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 4: one day they're going to do this in high school

972
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:56,719
Speaker 4: and like like when I was in high school, like

973
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 4: I wasn't getting Rizzo. I was getting like I played

974
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:00,840
Speaker 4: jan and high school too, you.

975
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:01,319
Speaker 3: Know what I mean.

976
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:03,400
Speaker 4: Like, and I was like I should have been Rizzo,

977
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 4: like I was ten times I was. I was like

978
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:09,839
Speaker 4: like not to be, like I was clearly a Broadway star,

979
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 4: Like why was I jammed?

980
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 3: Like ye me Rizzo?

981
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:12,880
Speaker 7: You know?

982
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:14,439
Speaker 3: But I wasn't Rizzo because of.

983
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 4: Like my body size, you know. And I remember thinking like, oh,

984
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:19,320
Speaker 4: this is so cool. There's going to be a show

985
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 4: that like that girl who never gets.

986
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 3: To do it gets to do it.

987
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 4: And then here I am and I'm like, Oh, it's happening,

988
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:28,359
Speaker 4: you know, like live in.

989
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:29,879
Speaker 3: Color, you know what I mean, It's cool.

990
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:34,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is your directorial debut, correct for like a

991
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 1: massive theater like this with this many people. Yeah, I've

992
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 1: directed a lot, like I've been directing like smaller shows

993
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 1: like six.

994
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 4: People, seven people, fun stuff at the rock. Well, everybody's

995
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:49,439
Speaker 4: what I mean. I did John Hill's one man Show,

996
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 4: Ryan o Connor's one man Show.

997
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 3: I did Ali.

998
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:53,359
Speaker 4: Miller's one you know when she did like I've done

999
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:55,360
Speaker 4: a lot of that, and then I directed. My first

1000
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 4: feature was in January, and that was like my I

1001
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 4: was like, oh, this is what I mean.

1002
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 3: The food's better, it's better.

1003
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 4: So so like that's been really fun, but this is

1004
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 4: like it was I when they asked me to do this,

1005
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:14,720
Speaker 4: I was like, well, if I ever want to direct

1006
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 4: in big theaters, in proper houses, with big companies with yeah,

1007
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 4: you know, with with you know, equity actors, I'm like,

1008
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 4: this might be my this is my way in like

1009
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:27,399
Speaker 4: you don't get to do it until you do it.

1010
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 4: And I'm like, and me doing hairspray is exciting and fun.

1011
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 4: But then like I've already been like what what are

1012
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 4: we going to do next year? Like like what show

1013
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:35,839
Speaker 4: can I do next year? What's on your roster next year?

1014
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 4: So that it's like to do something that's not hairspray

1015
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 4: but I love doing. Or then I'm also like or

1016
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 4: do I just like Paul, every theater in America be

1017
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 4: like put up hairspray in the you know what I mean?

1018
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:50,280
Speaker 3: Like I'm like, it's like the best move ever.

1019
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:53,880
Speaker 4: Was like like that's so much pressent, Like do you

1020
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 4: want me to come do hairspray at your theater? And

1021
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 4: now I have like a choreographer and a you know,

1022
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:00,360
Speaker 4: a music director. Literally take this. I can tell you

1023
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 4: where to get the sets and the costumes. Will just

1024
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 4: put this up and everything right Like that seems like

1025
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 4: an idea, send an assistance. Start it off, coming, yeah,

1026
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 4: coming with the baby, be ready to go?

1027
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:17,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, figured out?

1028
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 3: Thanks? And you like to produce that, you guys? Start?

1029
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 3: Can you make.

1030
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 2: Anything?

1031
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 3: I'll put it in every theater, in every dinner.

1032
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:29,920
Speaker 1: I got it. I've got a thing for you.

1033
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 3: I've got it, and every town I'll bring it ed.

1034
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 1: So funny, it's so funny.

1035
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 4: Do you to have a Tracy I'll be the judge

1036
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:44,400
Speaker 4: of that.

1037
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 2: I mean you opened soon. How how are you feeling

1038
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 2: you've been October tenth.

1039
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:52,799
Speaker 3: I'm so exhausted. I've never been more tired in my life.

1040
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 4: And I'm literally like I'm having anxiety every day about

1041
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 4: like are they going to get it? But I'm sure

1042
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 4: that that that's what like every direct feels I have learned,

1043
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 4: So like I'm going to I'm going to New York

1044
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 4: to do bat Boy because i'll uh with Alex and

1045
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 4: carry Butler.

1046
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 3: But so literally, I like was reading this.

1047
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:12,800
Speaker 4: I had my day off of Monday yesterday or whatever

1048
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:14,399
Speaker 4: day that was a couple of days ago, and I

1049
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 4: was like, I'm going to read this script because I'm like,

1050
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 4: oh my god, I'm leaving in like four weeks to

1051
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 4: do this and I haven't read the script really. So

1052
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 4: I read it and I was like, God, I wonder

1053
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 4: if he wants me to do it this way or

1054
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 4: this way? And I was like, maybe I'll call him.

1055
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:26,840
Speaker 4: And then I was like, because I'm like now doing

1056
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:29,360
Speaker 4: this with the hairspray, I'm like, Alex Timber does not

1057
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:31,239
Speaker 4: want me to call him and ask him what he

1058
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 4: was I was like.

1059
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:33,880
Speaker 3: Because everyone with me is like should I do this

1060
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 3: or do this? And I'm like, oh my god, just

1061
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:36,359
Speaker 3: make a choice. I don't care.

1062
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:40,440
Speaker 4: I will tell you the best lesson I have learned

1063
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:42,440
Speaker 4: as an actress. I was like, I am going to

1064
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 4: and I'm just directing now in the theater. I was like,

1065
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:48,440
Speaker 4: I am not going to call Alex Timber and ask

1066
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 4: him if he wants me to do it with a

1067
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 4: Southern accent or not.

1068
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 3: I'm gonna just show up and make a choice and

1069
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 3: let him tell me no. I was so that was

1070
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 3: that same.

1071
00:46:56,200 --> 00:47:01,319
Speaker 4: So don't call and ask them.

1072
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:02,439
Speaker 3: That just will scare them.

1073
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 1: Just do it. Just do it four weeks in advance,

1074
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 1: like I'm preparing. I'm prepared. So you're very busy and

1075
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 1: we're so appreciative. I have one more question for you.

1076
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 1: We ask everybody who comes on the show, what is

1077
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:18,799
Speaker 1: the feeling that Glee leaves you with? Since you're not

1078
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 1: E didn't Dukeallee, I'm gonna ask you what hair spray

1079
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 1: leaves you with? What is the feeling that hairspray leaves

1080
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 1: you with?

1081
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, with hope and joy and just oh

1082
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 4: my gosh. Like well, for me, it's like it gave

1083
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 4: me my life, so it like leaves me with just

1084
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 4: like such gratitude and like I'm so so honored to

1085
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:40,280
Speaker 4: be a part of something.

1086
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:42,839
Speaker 3: That, like I feel like I just love it so much.

1087
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 4: But like, let me tell you, Lee left me with

1088
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:47,839
Speaker 4: a lot of stuff too. Let's be clear, Like Glee

1089
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 4: left me with like how was I never on Glee?

1090
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 4: And was literally literally but also like I loved Blease

1091
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 4: so much and I was so happy that it happened.

1092
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:58,320
Speaker 3: It's like how Hairspray happened? Like I was so happy

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Speaker 3: Glee was happening.

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Speaker 4: So I can answer that one too, Like I like

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00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:04,239
Speaker 4: I loved Glee. I thought it like changed such like

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00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:07,279
Speaker 4: a generation, Like I like, I think that like so

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00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:09,680
Speaker 4: many people got into musical theater because of Glee, like

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00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:12,239
Speaker 4: so many people, like you know, like it changed so

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Speaker 4: many many people's lives and careers that I just like

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00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:16,719
Speaker 4: I always like had such a song, like I just

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00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 4: love Glee. So I think they both leave me with

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00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 4: such joy. I mean Glee is like how was I

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Speaker 4: never on?

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Speaker 2: That?

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00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:23,320
Speaker 3: That makes no sense?

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00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:26,400
Speaker 1: Really is actually very confusing, Yeah, it is very confusing.

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Speaker 2: A Mat Yeah, yeah, you're like man, I created you.

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00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 4: No, You're just hot, Matt, you were just hot, Like

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Speaker 4: what if he like, what if he didn't have his

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Speaker 4: curly hair at the time, Like, I might not have

1111
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:40,919
Speaker 4: thought he was as hot, and then who knows.

1112
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Speaker 3: What would have happened not even cut his hair.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, that hair really has gotten him far.

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Speaker 1: No, he really has good hair privilege.

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Speaker 4: And then when he like and then when he like

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00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 4: cut it short, it was like also hot and like yeah,

1117
00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:57,879
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, like but no his hair.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Anyways, mad Well, we're looking out and we're thinking

1119
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Speaker 1: about you and you guys and telling you to break

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Speaker 1: all the legs for your exciting Thank you, have the

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Speaker 1: best time. Congratulations, it's going.

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Speaker 3: To be great. Thank you guys so much.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for coming on the show and gabbing.

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Speaker 2: With Thank you. I love her. Oh my god. Go

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Speaker 2: to Ticketmaster, go get your tickets to see Marissa's production

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Speaker 2: of Hairspray. If you're in California, if you're in La.

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Speaker 2: It starts October tenth and thousand oaks. It's going to

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Speaker 2: be incredible. I'm sad I'm missing it, but jenlemen, you

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Speaker 2: should go see it.

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Speaker 1: No, I have to. I have to go see it.

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Speaker 2: It's missing.

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Speaker 1: And she's so wonderful and so everybody go buy your tickets.

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Speaker 2: And if you're in entertainment, you're you're trying to be

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Speaker 2: an actor or writer, producer, director, anything. A lot of

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Speaker 2: lessons from her in this episode, Yeah, a lot of

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Speaker 2: a lot of very good lessons in Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Marsa for coming on the show and joining us.

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Speaker 1: We hope you guys enjoyed the conversation and that's what really.

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Speaker 2: Miss Thanks for listening and follow us on Instagram at

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Speaker 2: write us a review and leave us five stars. See

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Speaker 2: you next time.