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Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus

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Speaker 1: in Barria, Ohio. This is Cleveland Browns Dalley brought to

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Speaker 1: you by Bally Bett coming soon to Ohio on eight

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Speaker 1: fifty ESPN Cleveland. Here are your hosts, Bo Bishop and

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Speaker 1: Nathan Zegura.

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Speaker 2: Ah, it's a live on a Thursday that feels like

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Speaker 2: a Friday edition. Feels like a Friday edition. Merely Bo.

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Speaker 2: The Great Sea school's out for summer. This is what

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Speaker 2: it feels like.

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Speaker 3: Another day of school tomorrow. It feels like it should

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Speaker 3: be on a Friday. I think, in fact, i'd say

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Speaker 3: bad job by the NFL to have this always be

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Speaker 3: a Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday affair, because ending on Friday it

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Speaker 3: would be it would be joyous. And it was fun.

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Speaker 3: It was a fun day out there. The Browns had

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Speaker 3: a ton of alumni out there, a spirited practice there was.

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Speaker 3: It was a lot of jocularity. Yeah, good day for

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Speaker 3: the d Watson had some great balls again. It was

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Speaker 3: a it was a fun a fun day. But the

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Speaker 3: highlight for me, and I think for Gibbet as well,

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Speaker 3: and you vicariously threw us, was seeing the great Jim

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Speaker 3: Donovan was out of practice today looking good, looking strong.

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Speaker 3: You know, that's what you that's what you worry about,

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Speaker 3: right that he starts to look frail. He looked very

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Speaker 3: very strong and said he was feeling good and he's

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Speaker 3: so far everything's responded very well for him, and it

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Speaker 3: was just great to see him. And then you know,

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Speaker 3: after he said kind of how are you doing, he said,

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Speaker 3: you know, it's surprisingly much better than I thought. Then

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Speaker 3: we just were hanging out talking about the Browns and

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Speaker 3: it was it was great and couldn't be happier.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I would have loved to have seen him.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's that's something that you just want to brace.

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Speaker 3: The guys.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, best, absolutely absolutely best to see the voice and

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Speaker 2: see him out here. Today was obviously very very special

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Speaker 2: for you guys. Yeah, and had I up in en route,

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Speaker 2: would have been for me as well.

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Speaker 3: Of course.

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Speaker 2: Give me a feeling on from an intensity standpoint one

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Speaker 3: The days, Yeah, I think today was probably not the

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Speaker 3: least intense of the three days. Yeah, Day one was

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Speaker 3: the most intense. Day two. I thought the defense really

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Speaker 3: have tried to up their intensity a little bit. Here's

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Speaker 3: the bottom line, and I've said it before, and I'm

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Speaker 3: gonna keep saying it because it's really all we can

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Speaker 3: do at this point. You talk to anybody on this team,

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Speaker 3: you talked to any coach on this team, you start

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Speaker 3: talking about this football team, they are smiling ear to year.

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Speaker 3: They know what this team can be. It's gonna be

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Speaker 3: a matter of two things, right. Number one, staying healthy.

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Speaker 3: Things can change very quickly if certain people get injured. Okay,

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Speaker 3: so staying healthy. And number two just executing just being

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Speaker 3: what we clearly are capable of being. And that comes

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Speaker 3: through coming through when it matters. Right, this is a

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Speaker 3: talented football team you're talking about. You know the questions

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Speaker 3: that you may have. You know what's weighing on your

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Speaker 3: mind going to the Greenbrier. Obviously you want to continue

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Speaker 3: to see de Sean be what we've seen and the

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Speaker 3: fact that it feels like he is back.

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Speaker 2: What would be weighing on my mind as if the

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Speaker 2: updated the bathrooms.

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Speaker 3: That would be an important thing at the Greenbrier as well.

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Speaker 3: Will there be a variety of food offerings or are

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Speaker 3: we going to be just just Jerry West and a

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Speaker 3: few cafes the pizza place.

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Speaker 4: Gerard was very concerned about the food already. I'm aware

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Speaker 4: of the food situation. That's a conversation for off year.

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Speaker 3: Okay, all right, I'm sure we're gonna be in with

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Speaker 3: the team. I mean, it just feels like the most

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Speaker 2: You would think. That doesn't seem like the most likely.

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Speaker 2: I'm just gonna throw that out and we'll be at

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Speaker 2: Jerry West's. Fine, you can run down to Sneeds for

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Speaker 2: breakfast or life. Yeah, absolutely, for a great lunch right

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Speaker 3: I'm expensive, Jerry West. You can go take home a

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Speaker 2: So yeah, we did that and felt like a hell

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Speaker 3: Felt like a great deal. It was about the price

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Speaker 3: you'd expect to pay for like a reasonably overpriced cab

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Speaker 2: I want to say it was like one hundred and

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Speaker 2: just so perfectly described by you reasonably reasonably overpriced cab

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Speaker 2: is what they do with the wine. It's they got

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Speaker 2: it more than in anything else. It's out of control, out.

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Speaker 3: Of control, out of control, and it's one of those

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Speaker 3: things that is somebody who is worked hard to cultivate

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Speaker 3: a collection at my house. Yeah, like the fact like

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Speaker 3: that more places don't have a corkage fee, and I

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Speaker 3: understand why they don't have a corkage fee. But at

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Speaker 3: the end of the day, if you have a corkage

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Speaker 3: You're not buying any inventory nothing, You're literally getting here,

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Speaker 3: and I'd be a lot happier.

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Speaker 2: The amount of time that I that I spend between

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Speaker 2: be unless it's something special, then you go. But for

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Speaker 3: If you variating infuriate, it's infuriate and one if forty

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Speaker 3: to go to one twenties, and that's that's the right.

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Speaker 3: In Mexico, it's ten x if it's a town in California,

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Speaker 3: wine like a wine that you would recognize, really ten x. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Camis was over one thousand dollars. The the I gotta go,

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Speaker 3: the way, hold on, what was this? If you like Camis,

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Speaker 3: I do like Camos. The it was like not even

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Speaker 3: ten dollars bottle of wine, that's right, was one hundred

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Speaker 3: for American French wines. Those were not. But if you

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Speaker 3: It's over ageous. I think that as outrageous as that is.

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Speaker 2: You can't make sense of some things that happened in

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Speaker 2: I think that's a joke.

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Speaker 3: When you have to get like a sixty dollars bottle

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're at the bottom of the barrel. Brother, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: all right. So you were going through your concerns and

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Speaker 2: I interrupted been Internet.

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Speaker 3: I don't even know how, I don't know where.

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Speaker 2: Oh you had your concerns, you said, as you go

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Speaker 3: Your concerns are, is Jerome Ford ready to be the

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Speaker 3: number two? Is marginal? Who's going to make this team

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Speaker 3: as the fifth, sixth, seventh linebacker? Who's going to be,

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Speaker 3: you know, the fifth, sixth defensive end? How's the defensive

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Speaker 3: tackle battle? You know for the fourth, third, fourth defensive

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Speaker 3: tackle gonna shakeout? Is the Anthony Bell hold off? Ronnie

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Speaker 3: Hickman to be the fourth safety. You know who ends

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Speaker 3: up being the fifth, sixth corners. That's that's all we're

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Speaker 3: talking about. Let me, can we one of the other concerns.

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Speaker 3: Can we get to the practice squad the guys we

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Speaker 3: want to get to the practice squad.

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Speaker 2: That's the difference in this rosters where you're at. I

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Speaker 2: Like one of those guys has to be a dude,

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Speaker 2: be really nice. If they were a dude. It's not necessary,

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Speaker 2: but I would love for Jordan Elliott, Perry and Winfrey

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Speaker 3: Eye On Mohurst.

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Speaker 2: He's a Michigan kid who is highly highly regarded ductive

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Speaker 2: when healthy. Yeah, so if he can stay healthy, he

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Speaker 2: would be That might be the answer of the little

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Speaker 3: I like that. I like that. I like that.

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Speaker 2: I was curious how he looks. So that's a nice

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Speaker 2: job out of you get strap a little scores for

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Speaker 2: the kid on what should feel like.

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Speaker 3: It's hard, right, This isn't. Yeah, none of this is football,

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Speaker 2: Friday score that you gave us almost makes me think

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Speaker 2: today is Friday. In fact, by the time this show

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Speaker 2: that it's Friday. I'm just accordingly the other thing, I

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Speaker 2: would say, we'll see how the day goes. The other

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Speaker 2: And then I think the only other thing is like

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Speaker 2: a it's just the health. Can the linebacker room stay

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Speaker 2: can Jacob Phillips stay healthy for a full year? Anthony

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Speaker 2: J ok talky? Like, is that linebacker room healthy enough?

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Speaker 2: But that's it. I mean, it's and those are.

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Speaker 3: Here's And here's another thing just to kind of ponder

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Speaker 3: as you think about that holistically, is that this is

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Speaker 3: three linebackers on the field maybe ten plays a game, right, right,

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Speaker 3: maybe right, You're gonna be in the two linebacker world.

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Speaker 3: Kashiks had a great camp. I believe next Wednesday, I'm

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Speaker 3: told you'll you'll get you got a date Wednesday, Baby,

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Speaker 3: I'm told next Wednesday, you got a date Wednesday with

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Speaker 3: a with a twenty minute kunashik bomb. You're welcome.

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Speaker 2: Jeez, so far just gifts from afar.

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Speaker 3: Come on, shower and you shower in you. Uh, he's

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Speaker 3: had a very good camp. Yeah, and so you know,

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Speaker 3: Tony Fields has progressed. Jokay's looks good. They're in this defense.

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Speaker 3: Their job, so the guys up front, their job is

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Speaker 3: Obviously there are some constraints. It's not just a complete

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Speaker 3: the linebackers are supposed to clean it up. So the linebackers,

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Speaker 3: What's crazy though, It's coming like and it blew the

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Speaker 2: It's not just coming from there, it's coming from Quebec to.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there's four hundred and twenty fires. Yeah, Quebec makes

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Speaker 2: It's burning like crazy. Sweet Miss Kay was unaware of

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Speaker 3: She just was stunned that how is this getting through

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Speaker 4: At ten o'clock last night, Philadelphia had the had the

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Speaker 4: They say, they said I read somewhere they get forest fires.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that these happened, and because it's so dry. Well,

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Speaker 2: Normally I'm guessing they have it just like we do, Curtana,

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Speaker 2: Plus we're usually not this dry this time of year.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's occurrents whole week of vacation. It's now five

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Speaker 3: When we go up to Michigan Wednesday, Thursday, Friday in

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Speaker 3: that'll keep Actually, that'll fit out the park. Yes, that's

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Speaker 2: To the park.

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Speaker 4: Not if it's like steady raining, No, but overcast with

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Speaker 2: It looks like Monday, Tuesday or the bombs and those

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And I'm great with that because I'm tired of

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Speaker 3: It's not ideal. No, that's like Gibb would thrive with

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Speaker 2: the sprinkler system. Yeah, is running out every time Lo

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Speaker 4: Ceciliano was, uh, he was here, he's here, he's in town.

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Speaker 2: Oh is there will he share that or is that just.

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Speaker 3: A tea yes, it's in the notes. It's in the tees.

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Speaker 2: Oh, very good. Oh there it is. It's a very

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Speaker 2: big moment for him, so we'll ask him about that.

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Speaker 2: logo contest. Make sure to let your voice be heard.

435
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Speaker 2: Vote for your favorite one one per day, basically than

436
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Speaker 2: Browns dot com slash dog load cast your vote.

437
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Speaker 3: Well, since this is Friday, this is the last day

438
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Speaker 3: to vote, last day to vote. Yeah, it's all over.

439
00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:28,040
Speaker 3: That's true. He wasn't up.

440
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Speaker 2: Its shame to start promoting. No, it's not the last

441
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Speaker 2: day Friday.

442
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Speaker 3: To me, you can't say that. F L left brother

443
00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:37,119
Speaker 3: feels like is.

444
00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:39,160
Speaker 4: Going to be in meetings. You may not be going home.

445
00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:41,719
Speaker 4: Keep up with it, Keep up with that.

446
00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:43,480
Speaker 2: Why are you being meetings for saying it feels like

447
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Speaker 2: Friday let's ask Siciliana. We joined us on the Twisted

448
00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:50,240
Speaker 2: Tea Hotline u NFL network. Great friend of the program, Andrews,

449
00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:51,360
Speaker 2: it feel like Friday.

450
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Speaker 5: To you, guys, I was on a red eye last night.

451
00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:56,879
Speaker 5: I have no concept of what day it is.

452
00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:01,280
Speaker 2: Feels like a Friday. Then to me, that's a Friday explanation.

453
00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:03,640
Speaker 2: You were out here, Davin, What do you think.

454
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Speaker 5: When I think? I mean, I think it was a nice, fun,

455
00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:10,959
Speaker 5: quick last day of school kind of practice, you know,

456
00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:14,480
Speaker 5: like it like it should be. School's out for summer,

457
00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:19,040
Speaker 5: go out there for the next month, relax, stay fresh,

458
00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:22,480
Speaker 5: don't do anything silly, and be in West Virginia in

459
00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:24,919
Speaker 5: five weeks that or six weeks whatever it is. That

460
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Speaker 5: kind of was that kind of good.

461
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's hard to wrap my head around. He's right though,

462
00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:32,440
Speaker 3: six Oh, I'm quick, very quick.

463
00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:35,800
Speaker 5: I mean, Andrew, you guys, you guys know that like

464
00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:37,960
Speaker 5: this is you know, mini camp this week or Mini

465
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Speaker 5: Caamp next week. There are twenty two teams. I think

466
00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:42,520
Speaker 5: of the mini camps next week and then it's it's

467
00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:45,440
Speaker 5: the league shuts down for a month. So I think

468
00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:47,520
Speaker 5: there is whether it's with the Browns or any of

469
00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:53,400
Speaker 5: the other teams, a sense of relief that you get

470
00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:56,359
Speaker 5: a big break at the same time also realizing you

471
00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:59,280
Speaker 5: got to get some good work in because you know

472
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Speaker 5: the the days are limited and the season's actually a

473
00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:05,080
Speaker 5: lot closer than you would think.

474
00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:09,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it starts with the Bengals at the Steelers

475
00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:10,920
Speaker 3: and you get the Ravens at home in your first

476
00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:12,720
Speaker 3: four games, So you got to be ready to roll

477
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Speaker 3: when it is time to go. Deshaun Watson has been

478
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Speaker 3: looking great, Andrew I thought his Tuesday practice was simply sensational.

479
00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:22,000
Speaker 3: I had a nice dime to DPJ today as well

480
00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,200
Speaker 3: as some others. But you know, you've got to throw

481
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Speaker 3: a dime and tomorrow night, which I guess could be

482
00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:29,840
Speaker 3: Saturday maybe fine night. Either way, you got to throw

483
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Speaker 3: a dime tomorrow night at the Guardians. Baby, how are

484
00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:35,760
Speaker 3: you feeling? What's the mindset? Have there been practice pictures made?

485
00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:38,000
Speaker 3: Are you bringing the heat or you're throwing a curve?

486
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Speaker 3: What's the thought process here?

487
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Speaker 5: All right? So the fact is, Nathan, I didn't expect

488
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Speaker 5: this to become public, but evidently it is now public.

489
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Speaker 3: I'm giving.

490
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Speaker 5: I am I'll be honest, I'm I'm a little bit anxious. Yeah,

491
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Speaker 5: a little bit anxious. Yes I did. I did yesterday,

492
00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:04,159
Speaker 5: you know back in la Uh worked the arm out

493
00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,680
Speaker 5: a little bit and played some cash with a bun

494
00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:10,439
Speaker 5: and you know, it felt fine. Like last time I

495
00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:12,000
Speaker 5: played catch about a month ago. It is with my

496
00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:15,480
Speaker 5: eight year old nephew a little bit different. So I'm

497
00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:17,439
Speaker 5: feeling okay. But like I was talking about it with

498
00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:19,720
Speaker 5: some people today, your something included like do you do

499
00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:22,560
Speaker 5: you wing it in there? Or ye, do it just

500
00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:26,680
Speaker 5: kind of make sure it gets there. And here's and

501
00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:29,439
Speaker 5: no one's gonna no one's gonna care if you just

502
00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:31,520
Speaker 5: make sure it gets there, right.

503
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:33,480
Speaker 3: That's true. Yeah, you definitely want to make sure it

504
00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:36,720
Speaker 3: gets there. But if you do it before.

505
00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:41,080
Speaker 5: I did it like twelve years ago, and it got there.

506
00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:45,000
Speaker 5: But it like it hit the plate like you had

507
00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:47,520
Speaker 5: a little third on it. It got it. It wasn't

508
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:50,400
Speaker 5: like a three hopper. It wasn't like a Travis Kelsey.

509
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Speaker 5: I mean it was right down the middle. It was

510
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Speaker 5: just it was, yes, sixty feet and not six inches,

511
00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:58,200
Speaker 5: just sixty feet.

512
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Speaker 3: I like it. Here's how I feel about it. You've

513
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,159
Speaker 3: done it before. Let's go ahead and let's bring a

514
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:03,720
Speaker 3: little bit of that. She's give him the high hard one,

515
00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,800
Speaker 3: you know, a little shoulder high fastball. Bring it. That's safe,

516
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 3: it's going to get there. They'll catch it. Number two.

517
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:11,639
Speaker 3: The goal in my mind, if I ever get an

518
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Speaker 3: opportunity to do this, my goal is to finish somewhere

519
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,920
Speaker 3: on the spectrum between fa fa fu high slash Travis

520
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Speaker 3: Kelcey on one end and then each he Row on

521
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Speaker 3: the other. When he came back in full uniform and

522
00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:25,399
Speaker 3: piped it like ninety three after not playing baseball for

523
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Speaker 3: a lot, all you have to do is coming between

524
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Speaker 3: those two. That's it.

525
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:34,359
Speaker 5: Look, each Row at sixty years old can roll out

526
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Speaker 5: of bed and get three hits. I guarantee you no

527
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Speaker 5: doubt we'll be able. He's unreal, So to compare me

528
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Speaker 5: to each he Row is rough.

529
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Speaker 3: But you just gotta be below each he Row and

530
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Speaker 3: above Kelsey and faa fu hi. Yeah, and you can

531
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Speaker 3: do that.

532
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:49,959
Speaker 5: You gotta confidence right now. Like I think we had

533
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Speaker 5: Kelsey on the network a couple of weeks ago. He

534
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Speaker 5: was trying to tell me that like he wasn't supposed

535
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Speaker 5: to do it, like it was supposed to be mom,

536
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Speaker 5: and he stepped in because Mom didn't want to do it.

537
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Speaker 5: And he didn't warm up, and I'm like, come on, man,

538
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Speaker 5: like seriously. But at the same time, like it's not like,

539
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:10,879
Speaker 5: you know, I could say tomorrow, hey, can we go

540
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 5: down to the tunnel and loosen up. I don't know

541
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Speaker 5: that I'm going to get.

542
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Speaker 3: I think you might be able to say, yeah, I

543
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Speaker 3: think you could think that. I think you can say that.

544
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Speaker 2: I think you could uncoordiate him.

545
00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:21,760
Speaker 3: They have an indoor like throwing. I think you can

546
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 3: do that. Back when the myths did it, I was

547
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,520
Speaker 3: with him and he threw plenty of pitches and there

548
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:29,320
Speaker 3: actually threw a nice, a nice first pitch in there. Yeah,

549
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:30,680
Speaker 3: you can absolutely do that.

550
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Speaker 5: He's the miss.

551
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Speaker 2: So again, you know, I think there are two things

552
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Speaker 2: that I would haven't this would be These would be

553
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Speaker 2: the two things.

554
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Speaker 3: I'd think.

555
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Speaker 2: Number one, I would aim high, because what you what

556
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:45,520
Speaker 2: happened to you the last time is what happened to

557
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:48,520
Speaker 2: me when where my my pitch hit the back end

558
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 2: of the plate. It was over the middle, but it

559
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:54,240
Speaker 2: was it was hit the back point of the plate,

560
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 2: and I wished that I had aimed higher because you

561
00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 2: don't realize how far sixty feet six inches is until

562
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Speaker 2: you're out there. And you're like, wow, that's a lot

563
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,880
Speaker 2: further than I thought, especially je exposed to a stadium,

564
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:07,159
Speaker 2: so that would be the first thing, and then this

565
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,199
Speaker 2: would be my other thing. And this is just the

566
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Speaker 2: reality of it. Not that many people are paying attention.

567
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:18,920
Speaker 5: I know, you're you're totally right. If you just lob

568
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 5: it in there, they're like, hey, we're not going viral.

569
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 5: Everyone applaud and you walk out of there. And but

570
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 5: like yesterday, I'm playing cash and by the way, this

571
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:32,200
Speaker 5: is far too much overthinking of this thing. We're playing

572
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:35,239
Speaker 5: cash somebody and ey yesterday, and like you know, when

573
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Speaker 5: you're getting a good rhythm and you're going like three

574
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 5: quarters and you're just you know, you're winging it, like

575
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 5: it's the easiest thing. You're on autopilot. Right when he

576
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:48,719
Speaker 5: decides to get down crouch be the catcher. And then

577
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 5: you're like, all right, now I'm throwing downhill. Now you

578
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,480
Speaker 5: got to hit a target. Now you're thinking about it,

579
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:57,400
Speaker 5: and like, there's a reason I haven't played baseball since

580
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Speaker 5: high school.

581
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Speaker 2: You know, yeah, I think gonna be great. I get

582
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 2: the right mind frame for it. I think it's gonna

583
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:04,920
Speaker 2: be I think it's gonna be pretty special, Hey, Bud,

584
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 2: speaking of this is gonna be a pretty special by

585
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 2: the time we get back to work. And I don't

586
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:09,919
Speaker 2: know if I have time to talk to you and

587
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,920
Speaker 2: tell this, but uh, this team going to the Greenbrier, obviously,

588
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,119
Speaker 2: so there will be something special about that. And then

589
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 2: when it gets back, it's it's half week, It's Joe Thomas,

590
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 2: it's the hoff going in and getting his actual gold jacket.

591
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 2: You've worked with Joe a lot, know him well, Uh,

592
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,679
Speaker 2: one of the one of the greatest, the Doctor Evil photo,

593
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:27,920
Speaker 2: one of the great photos.

594
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 3: Of all times.

595
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,679
Speaker 2: Have you wrapped your head around with that? You know

596
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:34,160
Speaker 2: Joe well?

597
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:34,639
Speaker 3: Like we do?

598
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 2: What that that week's gonna be like for him and

599
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 2: for all of us that know him and love him.

600
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 5: I am so happy for him because honestly, not only

601
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 5: is Joe one of my favorite people, they're like one

602
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,119
Speaker 5: of my favorite families and one of the cool u

603
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,920
Speaker 5: as well. So I am so happy for all of them.

604
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 5: I'm I don't I've been very fortunate to go to

605
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,359
Speaker 5: a whole bunch of these things, and I know for

606
00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 5: me as a stand I myself every time I'm there,

607
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 5: I cannot stab them. What it would be like to

608
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 5: actually stand up there and say this is my football life.

609
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 5: And the coolest thing for me going to the Hall

610
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 5: is to see these great men and these great athletes

611
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 5: welcome everyone back in that help them on this journey.

612
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 5: Every tee week coach and every teacher and every high

613
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 5: school coach, and mom and dad who drove you to

614
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 5: practice every day, and just the aunts and the uncles

615
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 5: and the cousins and the nieces and the nephews, the

616
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 5: family part of it, and the culmination and the celebration

617
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 5: of all that work. Honestly, it gets me every time.

618
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 5: And I am so happy that a guy like Joe,

619
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 5: who so deserves this, is getting that moment. He deserves

620
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 5: to be a first ballot. He is an extra special

621
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 5: honor to being a first ballot Hall of Famer, and

622
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:08,719
Speaker 5: the fact that this guy is going in as the

623
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 5: first guy since the rebirth in ninety nine means that

624
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 5: much more and he deserves it.

625
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 3: Do you miss that Thursday night show as much as

626
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 3: we do?

627
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 5: I do, actually do. It's kind of not to not

628
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 5: to get too much into work, but yeah, it did.

629
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 5: It did kind of sucked it out the other road

630
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 5: last year. We had a lot of fun. You know,

631
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 5: they had a lot of fun doing that show in

632
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 5: the studio last year as well, so uh, it's not

633
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 5: the same as being in the building. They still did

634
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 5: a great show Colleen and everyone and Steve and Joe

635
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 5: and they did a great job in the studio. But

636
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,719
Speaker 5: it is Nathan, as you guys both know, it is

637
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 5: fun to be out there on the road everywhere.

638
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 3: Oh man, you guys had I felt like it was

639
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 3: lightning in a bottle. It was in my opinion, it

640
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 3: was the inside the NBA of NFL coverage. Basically that

641
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 3: show was the most fun. So obviously Mini Me was one.

642
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 3: What was your what's your favorite thing that you did

643
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 3: with Joe outside of Mini Me because you guys would

644
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:05,719
Speaker 3: be together often outside the building.

645
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, the Mini Me thing was fun. I would say

646
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 5: the indie the indie thing we did. You've seen like

647
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 5: the Hot Wing or the Hot Things, but you know

648
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 5: the interview show with the Hot Wings. We were in

649
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 5: Indianapolis and we did the Saint Almost Cocktail sauce and

650
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 5: we did shrimp Cocktail with the three different levels of

651
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 5: San Almo sauce. In reality, there is only one level.

652
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 5: It's in one rattle, and you guys have been there,

653
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 5: and it's great stuff. It clears the sinuses out, it's awesome.

654
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 5: It's like gasoline. But they made two other ones where

655
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 5: they actually added extra horseradish for us and Joe was

656
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 5: sweating through his bald skull and it was fantastic. I mean, granted,

657
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 5: I would remember, well Joe played for the camera and

658
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 5: that that was fun.

659
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 3: That was but by the way, we almost lost bo Bishop.

660
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 3: It s almost it was.

661
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 2: It almost got me the There was a big chunk, Buddy,

662
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 2: A big chunk went in and I would I'd had

663
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 2: it a lot, so I was prepared that I was

664
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 2: having it. Didn't It's never bothered me before. But I

665
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 2: got a big chunk and it felt like an Adam

666
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 2: bomb went off behind in the middle of my brain.

667
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 2: It was just, oh, almost tuck me out.

668
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 5: I had some of it at home. I I to

669
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 5: almost everything at home. The other fun one was, I mean,

670
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 5: let's tip the catter the Browns here the Dearanis Johnson

671
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 5: game year against who was a couple of years ago. Yeah, huh,

672
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 5: just because it was here and just because it was fun,

673
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 5: and just because uh, you know, case Keenum and Dad

674
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 5: bought and Deuranus Johnson. He got a win.

675
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 3: Yes, that was great, And that was the I when

676
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 3: I was doing the kind of like the pregame hype,

677
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 3: we had Joe down there and I gave it to

678
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:51,959
Speaker 3: him and he screamed at the top of his lungs,

679
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 3: let's stop those ponies, And I thought it was just

680
00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,240
Speaker 3: all time of it.

681
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 5: No, I hold on. In twenty nineteen, Nathan I interviewed Swagger.

682
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 3: I'm sure that was.

683
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 2: An illuminating dog or the guy running around?

684
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, the Actually I interviewed the dog.

685
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 2: May r I p R P one Swagger one jigger.

686
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 5: I don't remember the first swagger one was twenty nineteen,

687
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 5: so which one would have been?

688
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 2: It would have been the originally Iridge, that's the O G.

689
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, all right, p Well I was up there.

690
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 5: We have the moment with with the O G.

691
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 2: He was, what do you think of the dog logos?

692
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 2: You like either? You like one of those better than

693
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 2: the other? The last two?

694
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 5: I gotta see him to remember which one I like that.

695
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 5: I think I like the one of them write better.

696
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 3: Okay, the one's a little darker. Yeah, I didn't didn't

697
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 3: really have iesa. Yeah, it's a strong look at the strong.

698
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 5: Is that one gonna win?

699
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 3: We don't know.

700
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 2: We don't voting against today allegedly, come.

701
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 6: On, you know, you know, yeah, we don't have scores

702
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 6: because they're doing renovations, so we're an undisclosed location, off site,

703
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 6: so we're not you don't get those normal office interaction

704
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 6: because they're renovating second.

705
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 3: Flor So everybody that would it be in the know

706
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 3: of that is elsewhere. I know that it's a tight race.

707
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 3: So if you actually are listening right now and you

708
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 3: do care about one logo versus the other, now's the time.

709
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 3: Now is the time to vote? Is there?

710
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 5: Is there gonna be a big reveal?

711
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, oh yeah, big reveal. I don't know. I'm

712
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 3: sure it'll be a stupendous.

713
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would think so for sure. Gargantuan, Hey man,

714
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 2: do you ever pitch yourself with all this? As a

715
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 2: kid growing up a Cleveland sports fan, you're thrown out

716
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 2: a pitch at the it was, you know, a team

717
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 2: that you rooted for an Indians game, and you've done

718
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 2: all this stuff with us with Joe. I mean, you're

719
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 2: interviewing the dog like you ever, Like holy hell man,

720
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 2: like I'm crushing this.

721
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, every every I don't know, I don't know what

722
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 5: I'm crushing, but every single time yet, like truly absolutely,

723
00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 5: like the I graduated Heights cool with an Indian jersey

724
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 5: on under my gown. So yeah, absolutely I pinched myself.

725
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 5: And hey, I don't miss an Indians game or a

726
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 5: Guardians game, or I didn't miss either. I like, I

727
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 5: have them wherever I am they're on period, So I

728
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 5: am a fan first and foremost. And yeah, the ability

729
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 5: to be there, yes, the ability to just stand there

730
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 5: and watch practice, hang with you guys, even even you know,

731
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,879
Speaker 5: talking to Bernie today for example. Yeah, of course, yeah,

732
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:35,759
Speaker 5: talk to Bernie a thousand times, but he still is

733
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 5: the guy that you know posters on my wall as

734
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:38,839
Speaker 5: a kid.

735
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:42,240
Speaker 3: So, yeah, are you going to bring hats for bats?

736
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,879
Speaker 3: Taking a page out of Patro's playbook to try to wait,

737
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 3: wake these bats up, keep the bats warm?

738
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,880
Speaker 5: Uh No, no hats, No hats for bats. But I

739
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 5: was watching my buddy to play Cats with yesterday is

740
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:57,360
Speaker 5: a big Red fan, and we did have for class

741
00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 5: in the ninth and Will Benson's walk off last night

742
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 5: of all people, so you know what could have been?

743
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, certainly, Hey, real quick, you have to get one,

744
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 2: and you may actually own one of these. What is

745
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 2: the correct Major League.

746
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:14,880
Speaker 3: From the movie.

747
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 2: If you're to own one jersey from a player in

748
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,359
Speaker 2: that game, what is the correct one to own?

749
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:26,800
Speaker 5: And I do think that's.

750
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 3: In correct, that's incorrect. We're looking for Dorn, looking.

751
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:35,319
Speaker 2: For Roger Dorn. What Jersey's unbelievable. I saw someone when

752
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 2: it was jacobield to the door and I died. That's

753
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 2: the funniest thing. You see, Hayes, you see wild but

754
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:45,239
Speaker 2: Mike Srano even I have a guy and a guy

755
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:45,840
Speaker 2: in a Dorn.

756
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 3: I died.

757
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 5: It's like a brook Jakobe jersey.

758
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 2: Right, so great, so specific. Hey man, thanks for your time.

759
00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 2: Have fun with it. We know that you will, and

760
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:01,720
Speaker 2: we alway appreciate your time and seeing you here today.

761
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, hey, gentlemen, it's been fun. We'll do it again soon.

762
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 5: I back together Saturday.

763
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:09,760
Speaker 2: Okay.

764
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 3: I like that. I like it.

765
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 2: I like where your head's at. Give him the heater.

766
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:14,799
Speaker 3: That would be a good one too.

767
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 5: Lou Brown, All right, Brown, Hey, I got a guy

768
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,320
Speaker 5: in a line about a set of white walls.

769
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:26,880
Speaker 2: I'm saying, man. Iconic NFL network analysts calling in on

770
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:27,840
Speaker 2: the twisted tea hotline.

771
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 3: The Dorn is we didn't even get a Jake Taylor.

772
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 3: Jake Taylor be a nice er.

773
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 2: Jake Taylor may have been a stock. They did show

774
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 2: up in her apartment. Showing up in her apartment like

775
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 2: walks in, Come on, what was.

776
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 3: Your event in the bullpen car?

777
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I thought I thought he was uh yeah,

778
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 2: Now I'm a big Dorn guy. I think Dorn's where

779
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:49,839
Speaker 2: it's at.

780
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:54,840
Speaker 3: I love that twenty four Dorn. That's kind of an increase.

781
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 3: That is pretty good. I I do have a wild

782
00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 3: thing Rick Von.

783
00:36:57,960 --> 00:36:59,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be. That's the one that I think

784
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 2: most most would have that in Willie May says, I

785
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 2: do see a serrano every once in a while, seen

786
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 2: one do. I'll never forget it. I'll never forget it.

787
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 2: He was sitt in two rows in front of me

788
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:10,279
Speaker 2: at the stadium, and I just wanted to hug the

789
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 2: guy and just go I just I just think that's.

790
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 3: I'm gonna give a reference that you don't even recognize.

791
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,800
Speaker 3: But Dorn's like the Tom Sand of all of Major League.

792
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 3: I feel like he would have been involved in the

793
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 3: big and in fact, he was involved in a big scandal.

794
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 2: He was you know, yeah, towards the end, back when

795
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 2: television cameras were allowed in.

796
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:27,879
Speaker 3: Parties, apparently they were. Yeah, yeah, and you saw Son

797
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 3: did a little bit there. Then well the wild thing, Yeah,

798
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 3: it happens. It's going to have handled it. They handled

799
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:35,840
Speaker 3: it old school. I'm gonna punch it.

800
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 2: And then I still think that movie's is other than

801
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 2: other than Taylor being perhaps a stoker, I think everything

802
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 2: else is perfect. Oh, I think it's the perfect sports movie. Great, yeah, yeah,

803
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 2: it really has everything that you.

804
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 3: All you want.

805
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:54,280
Speaker 2: It does way better than that Rudy Rudy sucks, couldn't

806
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 2: suck garbage. We'll go around.

807
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 3: I wouldn't even watch that on a fake Friday.

808
00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 2: Same me either. We'll go around the league among other things.

809
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,279
Speaker 2: Coming up next, he listened to Cleveland Browns Daily on

810
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:03,240
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811
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:08,879
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812
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:17,880
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813
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 2: All right, welcome again to Cleveland Browns Daily on a

814
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 2: fifty ESPN Cleveland. Time to go around the league? This

815
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 2: coming in. In the last hour or so, the Vikings

816
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 2: released running back Dalvin Cook. That will happen later this week.

817
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 2: They tried pretty desperately to find a trade for him,

818
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 2: but they could not find one, and so he will

819
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 2: be he will be released, and then yeah, he's already

820
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 2: been asked about I saw Mike mc daniels already been

821
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 2: asked about it in Miami, had a funny couple of

822
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 2: funny lines about it.

823
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 3: He wants to go to one of two places, is

824
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 3: what I heard was Miami, yep, and Buffalo. Everybody wants

825
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 3: to go to Buffalo. Well, for him, there multitude of reasons.

826
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 3: Ago brothers there. His brother would be there and be

827
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 3: able to kind of take him under his wing. Obviously

828
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 3: there've been a Dalvin Cookie type running back away from

829
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:12,360
Speaker 3: being ye very scary on offense. So we'll see what

830
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 3: happens there. But the Vikings are going all into rollover

831
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 3: cap room for the following season when they're obviously going

832
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 3: to try to He's gonna try to, you know, go

833
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:26,360
Speaker 3: down to come back up. This is what it feels like.

834
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 2: I'll punt on Cousins after this year.

835
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 3: And my guess, but you got Justin Jefferson, you got

836
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 3: Jordan Addison.

837
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 2: Now you can flip it quick with the right quarterback.

838
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:35,840
Speaker 3: I mean Cincinnati did Patkinson.

839
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can flip it quick. You just have to

840
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:39,319
Speaker 2: land the quarterback at the top.

841
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 3: You probably Cousins is too good. That's probably for them

842
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 3: to be.

843
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 2: Trade him now or find a way to get out

844
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 2: from under him now to where that they could go

845
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 2: to the bottom and then you could pick one of

846
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 2: those three quarterbacks the next year that are all going

847
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:53,319
Speaker 2: to be really good. But if you don't do that,

848
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 2: then you're it's really hard, and then you're gonna have

849
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,319
Speaker 2: Justin Jefferson going like what am I doing?

850
00:39:58,719 --> 00:39:59,800
Speaker 3: I don't need to sign here.

851
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:01,839
Speaker 2: No interest in being a part of this, Daniel Hunter

852
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:04,320
Speaker 2: apparently being another guy who could be on this.

853
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 3: So they're gonna get rid of their two guys who

854
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 3: are double digit sack edge rushers. Yeah. Yeah, and that

855
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 3: was already a bad defense, despite the fact that they had

856
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 3: a good defensive line.

857
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:17,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's hard. I mean we saw it here with Sashi.

858
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 2: It's hard to be the guy who oversees that to

859
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 2: get through it.

860
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 3: Agreed. And here's the other thing that would be just

861
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:25,800
Speaker 3: you know, obviously if we were able to truse Seram Quacy,

862
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:27,799
Speaker 3: we've interviewed him before. The I think generally and we

863
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 3: were the first action. Maybe we could bring him back

864
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 3: on in the off season and talk to him again

865
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 3: and just get his thoughts, because look, the NFC isn't

866
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 3: that good. No, so you do have a chance. If

867
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 3: you get in the dance, anything can happen. And then

868
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 3: in a one game scenario, you've got if they had

869
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 3: their full compliment of horse Inn, they kept Zidarius and Hunter,

870
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 3: you know, you could have a game where they just

871
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:48,800
Speaker 3: wreck a game for the for you know, an offensive

872
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 3: line or in a quarterback, and with Jefferson and Cousin

873
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:53,880
Speaker 3: they could put a thirty no problem. They did it

874
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:54,400
Speaker 3: many times.

875
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, he obviously feels strongly that there's not a path

876
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 2: for a Super Bowl contender there And in a we

877
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,400
Speaker 2: talk about this much throughout a lot of the offseason.

878
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 2: There is no middle class anymore. That nobody wants to

879
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 2: be middle class. They don't want to be upper middle class.

880
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:09,840
Speaker 2: They don't want to win ten eleven games, win a division,

881
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,240
Speaker 2: getting the playoffs, lose, they don't want to be basically

882
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 2: what the Bengals were under Andy Dalton for the longest time,

883
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:17,839
Speaker 2: or what the Vikings have been for a great many

884
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 2: years of their the time that you and I have

885
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 2: been following and paying attention to the NFL, which is

886
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 2: not serious team. You're not a serious person and you're

887
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:26,839
Speaker 2: not a serious team, so they don't want to be that.

888
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 2: So if you're not that, you almost would you would

889
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 2: rather go to the bottom and then try to build

890
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:34,240
Speaker 2: it back up. It's just hard for the general manager

891
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:36,719
Speaker 2: to survive all of that, and it's very difficult to

892
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 2: land the quarterback exactly. The timing has to work out.

893
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:44,279
Speaker 2: You have to be picking first in a draft that

894
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 2: it's known. It's hard. It's really difficult. Go look at

895
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 2: Jamis and Mariota and I mean there's countless of these

896
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 2: guys in the recent years that were first second picks

897
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 2: and flat lined yep, Bake, I mean it's it's hard.

898
00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:02,880
Speaker 2: It's really difficult. Did you guys see the Jaguars plans

899
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:03,919
Speaker 2: for their stadium.

900
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:12,720
Speaker 3: We didn't talk about that. Yes, that is what you do. Yep,

901
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 3: that's what you do. That's it. That's the answer. And

902
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:21,799
Speaker 3: anybody who's not doing that, especially in Buffalo Chicago here,

903
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 3: you have to do that. You do that. That's what

904
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 3: you do. That's the game changer. That is events coming

905
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 3: to our area. That is money folks.

906
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 2: If you haven't seen it, it's it's basically so fi.

907
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:36,320
Speaker 2: It's what I mean, it's their version.

908
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 3: Is so fi.

909
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 2: It is, you know, the huge areas around the concourses,

910
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:45,879
Speaker 2: an ability to close the roof and open air, which

911
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 2: you can do in their climate. You could not do

912
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:51,400
Speaker 2: that here, not as well anyway. And in fact, in

913
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:55,959
Speaker 2: the renderings they show them for Jaguars games, they show

914
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:58,839
Speaker 2: them for Florida, Georgia, they show them for the Gator Bowl,

915
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 2: and they show them for the College Ball Final. By

916
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:03,359
Speaker 2: the way, Jackson's already had a Super Bowl. I see

917
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 2: no reason to believe why they would get another one

918
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 2: if they wanted it. It opens you up. They wouldn't

919
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:09,719
Speaker 2: do WrestleMania. I wouldn't think they're because they're aw but

920
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 2: maybe who knows?

921
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 3: That be a total thing that they would want to do,

922
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 3: you think even though the kid, yeah, I don't know

923
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 3: that it would be possible. I think it wouldn't be possible.

924
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 3: But I'm saying that's something that the WW would love

925
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 3: to do.

926
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 2: That no, I know, but I don't know that the

927
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 2: CON I don't think would because are the cons owning it?

928
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 3: Are they building it? Kronky style?

929
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're building a Kronky style their own. Then yeah,

930
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:33,840
Speaker 2: well not entirely their own. There's it seems like con

931
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 2: shot CON's willing to spend a billion. Well this is

932
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 2: going to be and it's going to be more like well,

933
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 2: what they're doing is though they're gutting the old stadium

934
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 2: and they're building this around it.

935
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 4: So yeah, it's sixty two thousand seat open air stadium,

936
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 4: but it's open, includes a shaded canopy the team says

937
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 4: will reduce the heat factor by more than seventy percent,

938
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 4: lookout decks that offer views of the city.

939
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 2: Two pools.

940
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 3: Gotta keep the pools. Yep.

941
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 4: The stadium can expand a seat seventy one five hundred.

942
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 4: It mentions hosting a Final four, so then it's got

943
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 4: a roof.

944
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:20,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, it has to qu you can't have a Final four.

945
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:23,839
Speaker 3: I don't see. I can't see anything on the It.

946
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 2: Looked to me like there was like a retractable.

947
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 4: Entire cost of the project could be as much as

948
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:34,399
Speaker 4: two billion, would the stadium improvements costing between one point

949
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:36,320
Speaker 4: three billion and one point four billion.

950
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:38,400
Speaker 2: Okay, So what I had read is that he was

951
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 2: con was willing to shoulder the billion for the stadium

952
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 2: improvements and then the total cost of the project the

953
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:49,360
Speaker 2: two point whatever that's for the land around it for

954
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 2: him to develop upon.

955
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:54,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's per memorandum of understanding. The city in Jags

956
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:57,320
Speaker 4: under Shat Khan would split the cost of the entire project,

957
00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 4: including development around the stadium, which is great because they

958
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:02,800
Speaker 4: don't even open their tailgate lots till three hours before

959
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 4: kick which is just a joke.

960
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,839
Speaker 2: People don't realize how small that city is. Yeah, yep,

961
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 2: it's the biggest, I think in the country in terms

962
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 2: of area because it's basically all of Duval County, but

963
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:17,320
Speaker 2: it's the actual city is pretty small with the downtown.

964
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:22,239
Speaker 4: If the city and Jags agree on a two year

965
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 4: stadium renovation plan, they got to play.

966
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 3: Yes.

967
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 4: Options include the University of Florida's Ben Hill Griffin Stadium

968
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:35,400
Speaker 4: Orlando's Camping World Stadium. Other sites mentioned include the nearby

969
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 4: eleven thousand seat baseball stadium that houses the Triple A affiliate.

970
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 3: Of the Marlins.

971
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 4: That's not possible, no, but Lamping said it would cost

972
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 4: one hundred and twenty five million to add twenty thousand

973
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:50,280
Speaker 4: seats either to the facility to get them NFL ready,

974
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:53,240
Speaker 4: so it would be like a thirty thousand seat stadium

975
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:55,280
Speaker 4: like we played in La.

976
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 3: Or they can do it over four years, which adds

977
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:00,319
Speaker 3: about two hundred million the project, and they we could

978
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 3: play all their games at home if they renovated over

979
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:03,360
Speaker 3: forty in the off season.

980
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 4: This is what I would say though, if I'm the

981
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 4: city of Jacksonville, I'm all for it. But you're gonna

982
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 4: stop giving up home games to go play in London. Yeah, yeah,

983
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 4: Like I'm happy to help you. Yeah, but we're not

984
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:20,400
Speaker 4: going to take away home games so you can go

985
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:22,239
Speaker 4: play overseas. We're not doing this.

986
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 2: Then it's a lovely like Jacksonville Beach is really nice,

987
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 2: forty Ponnavidra is really nice.

988
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:31,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, that is not Jacksonville. It is. No.

989
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:35,360
Speaker 2: It is pretty hard to wrap your head around in

990
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 2: the mid nineties that they were like, let's go here,

991
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 2: let's do this. I mean, it's a strange thing in

992
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:44,399
Speaker 2: retrospect that was done, especially with the cities that did

993
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 2: not have teams at the time, that they would do

994
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:50,760
Speaker 2: so that they would put it there is pretty wild.

995
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:53,840
Speaker 2: They obviously wanted to go south to Carolina and Jacksonville,

996
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:55,400
Speaker 2: you know, to go to that part of the country

997
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 2: because it was just the Falcons representing that whole South.

998
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 2: But I think with their hope was that Jacksonville would

999
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:06,839
Speaker 2: somehow pull Orlando. It just was never going to. They

1000
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:08,880
Speaker 2: were never going to. Well, they the thing there was

1001
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:12,240
Speaker 2: Tampa block that because Tampa didn't.

1002
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 3: They don't want any part of it.

1003
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 2: You know, they didn't want it there, so they don't

1004
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 2: really have I mean, he could easily do all of

1005
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:21,359
Speaker 2: this in London if he wanted to, or he could

1006
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:23,840
Speaker 2: do it somewhere else, Like you know, he's chosen to

1007
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 2: do it there. I think they' laqu we asked everything

1008
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:27,799
Speaker 2: he wants. I think it's a game changer for the city.

1009
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 2: They'll have, they'll be able to have. I mean, the

1010
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 2: thing that would honestly matter most of that city, I

1011
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 2: would bet more than a super Bowl is a college

1012
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 2: football playoff final. That's what they would want to be in.

1013
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:38,879
Speaker 2: That is a college football town at heart.

1014
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 3: Can you do the SEC Championship there? Sure?

1015
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:42,800
Speaker 2: I mean you have to get it out of Atlanta,

1016
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 2: but you could, yeah, I mean you'd be You're talking

1017
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 2: about what matters most there. When I was down there

1018
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 2: was Florida State, Florida and Georgia.

1019
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:52,880
Speaker 3: That's what ran that town. It was an sec town.

1020
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 2: It was not at that point. And that was coming

1021
00:47:55,680 --> 00:48:00,319
Speaker 2: off of Brunell and Fred Taylor and BASSELLI like it.

1022
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:01,760
Speaker 3: Was that Jimmy Smith.

1023
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, they they had a lot of dudes.

1024
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:05,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they were very good. But it wasn't quickly.

1025
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 2: It wasn't ever like anything close to going to like

1026
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 2: Florida Georgia.

1027
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:13,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, well Rich the count never lost in that stadium

1028
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 3: when he never lost those two picks.

1029
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, well when I was there, Georgia never won. Florida

1030
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 2: beat him over and over and over in that thing.

1031
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:23,359
Speaker 2: But it is what you ought to do.

1032
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:27,399
Speaker 3: Speaking of those Florida of those teams, I think it's

1033
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:30,919
Speaker 3: August the twenty third the documentary is coming out about

1034
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 3: those teams. So here's what I would say about that.

1035
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:34,799
Speaker 3: It's really two thousand and seven.

1036
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:40,840
Speaker 2: It has everything, the reality around that time in Florida history,

1037
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:43,719
Speaker 2: has everything that you would want in sports documentary. If

1038
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 2: they tell the real truth, Bootsy, if they tell the

1039
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 2: real truth and they tell the stories, the fact that

1040
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 2: Aaron Hernandez, that Urban Meyer put Aaron Hernandez with Tim

1041
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:56,359
Speaker 2: Tebow as a roommate, if those stories are told, then

1042
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:58,240
Speaker 2: it's got a potentially be one of the greatest sports

1043
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 2: doovers of all time. If it sportswashing Urban's legacy at Florida,

1044
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 2: then I'm not interested.

1045
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 3: I don't need that sports washing at it like that.

1046
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 3: That's a term on the rise.

1047
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 2: It is speaking of a little That's what it would

1048
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 2: be if that. If they do that, then it's just

1049
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:15,920
Speaker 2: if he If it's that from that point of reference.

1050
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:20,319
Speaker 3: No, the did you watch the Aaron Hernandez documentary? No?

1051
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:23,400
Speaker 3: I didn't. I did it, and they were pretty The

1052
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 3: Florida part was very interesting, all the trouble he got into,

1053
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 3: all the things that were going on around him. I

1054
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:30,280
Speaker 3: don't know if they mentioned the Tibo thing. That didn't

1055
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:32,400
Speaker 3: strike me as something that I remember, But just that

1056
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:36,440
Speaker 3: document was wild. But even the Florida portion of it

1057
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 3: was wild, and you felt like, how did this guy

1058
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:43,319
Speaker 3: you ever get drafted? He's a hell football player, that's

1059
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:43,880
Speaker 3: the answer.

1060
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:50,880
Speaker 4: A little more college football news media wise from Andrew Marchin.

1061
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:54,920
Speaker 4: Reggie Bush expected to be out at Fox over a

1062
00:49:54,960 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 4: contract dispute, mark Ingram close to signing with Fox to

1063
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 4: replace him on Big Noon and retiring from the National

1064
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:09,759
Speaker 4: Football League Mark Chan also reporting.

1065
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:13,400
Speaker 2: Why would they hire Ingram, who played at Alabama to

1066
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:18,120
Speaker 2: do lead in for Ohio State Iowa football.

1067
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 4: At the Fox has looked into alternatives, including ESPN's Desmond

1068
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:24,760
Speaker 4: Howard and RG three, but never made a formal offer

1069
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:25,400
Speaker 4: to either.

1070
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:26,440
Speaker 3: They just don't want to spend.

1071
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 2: The big problem with their coverage is they act like

1072
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 2: they act like them Their first time seeing like a

1073
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 2: white out at Penn State is the first time anybody's

1074
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 2: seen a white out at Penn State because none of

1075
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:40,319
Speaker 2: them are big ten people, so they don't understand the

1076
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:44,279
Speaker 2: tradition of idea. Like every time they see you know,

1077
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:46,839
Speaker 2: dotting the ie, they're like explaining it. Now, we know

1078
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 2: what dotting the eye is. We're oh high state football

1079
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:52,239
Speaker 2: fays are watching Misister for goods. You don't need a descripture.

1080
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:56,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, So he's saying it's it is not official yet,

1081
00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 4: but all signs are pointing that that is going to

1082
00:50:59,000 --> 00:50:59,759
Speaker 4: indeed be the case.

1083
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:01,959
Speaker 2: It's long as Urban's on that show and say whatever

1084
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 2: you want about him about everything else. He's really good

1085
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 2: at that. As long as he's there, it doesn't matter

1086
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 2: the rest of them. The rest of them can come

1087
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:12,799
Speaker 2: and go. It's Lioner, Brady and Reggie. But as long

1088
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:15,359
Speaker 2: as Urban's there, they got it shot. But it will

1089
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 2: never be game day. There's no mark Ingram's moving the

1090
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 2: needle on them being beating game No, no, not.

1091
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 3: In any way.

1092
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:25,239
Speaker 2: It's a weird hire to hire an Alabama guy to

1093
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 2: do what's going to amount to pre game of Big

1094
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:29,480
Speaker 2: Ten football games.

1095
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:34,840
Speaker 4: I'm a little confused, like, why not go after Desmond?

1096
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:37,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I don't know.

1097
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 2: I mean, there's plenty of former Buckeyes that are doing.

1098
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:43,000
Speaker 3: Those jobs right in your backyard you can pick for.

1099
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:44,719
Speaker 2: There's all sorts of guys that would be good.

1100
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 3: Who would be? Yeah, who would do you say if

1101
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 3: you were going to get the best person you think

1102
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:52,880
Speaker 3: that could be a Big Ten pre game for a Fox.

1103
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:54,040
Speaker 3: Who would be? Who would that be?

1104
00:51:56,640 --> 00:52:01,440
Speaker 2: M you know, who would bring who wouldn't be afraid

1105
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 2: to play the heel and wouldn't be afraid to like

1106
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:06,360
Speaker 2: go at Urban and wouldn't you can't go to Buckeye

1107
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:08,360
Speaker 2: heavy though, would be the only reason I would hesitate

1108
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:11,319
Speaker 2: on this. Bobby Carpenter would be damn good at it

1109
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:14,840
Speaker 2: because he would he would play a role, He'd be

1110
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 2: willing to play a role, and that's something that they

1111
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:19,839
Speaker 2: there got. They take themselves way too seriously on that show.

1112
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:22,879
Speaker 2: And Bob would be willing to do that.

1113
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:24,319
Speaker 3: Where's Chucky would.

1114
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:26,719
Speaker 2: Well, he didn't want to do the work like that,

1115
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:28,160
Speaker 2: Like he doesn't want to do that work.

1116
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:29,839
Speaker 3: He doesn't want to do it. No, I mean he's

1117
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:31,919
Speaker 3: got the winery. He would be the best though.

1118
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, like him, and you need you need an High

1119
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:36,840
Speaker 2: State guy. You need a Michigan guy. They currently have none.

1120
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 2: I mean, if Urban's there, they have a sort of

1121
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 2: an Ohio State guy, like, they don't have any of those.

1122
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 2: I mean they have two USC guys and a Notre

1123
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 2: Dame guy doing Big ten pregame.

1124
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 3: I wonder what if they'd ever if they'd force Brady

1125
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 3: to do just like a little something with.

1126
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:54,880
Speaker 2: That, I could see him doing something for like the

1127
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 2: Ohio State Michigan game, like doing doing a pop in

1128
00:52:58,239 --> 00:52:59,920
Speaker 2: on something like that. But yeah, you got to have

1129
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:03,440
Speaker 2: those are the teams that draw the whole thing. By

1130
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:05,920
Speaker 2: the way, pretty big hint that there will be more

1131
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:08,320
Speaker 2: expansion of the Big Ten. Jeane Smith doubled down the

1132
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 2: athletic director of High State. They're playing one time at

1133
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:13,840
Speaker 2: seven thirty in November. They're doing it this year and

1134
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:16,760
Speaker 2: that's it. If that's going to continue to be the case,

1135
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:19,280
Speaker 2: then they have got to add more teams out west

1136
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:21,880
Speaker 2: or in warmer climate because all the rest of the Big

1137
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:23,920
Speaker 2: Ten fields that way as well. And you can't just

1138
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:26,799
Speaker 2: rely on home games with USC and UCLA for four

1139
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:29,360
Speaker 2: dates every single November. So they're going to have to

1140
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 2: add more teams.

1141
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:32,120
Speaker 3: Such thing. Ohio State only wants to play one night game,

1142
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 3: They're only going to do it once.

1143
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:35,280
Speaker 2: They're doing it this year against Michigan State is a bailout,

1144
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:36,280
Speaker 2: but they're not doing it again.

1145
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 3: Why don't they want to play prime time because it's

1146
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:39,799
Speaker 3: the SEC.

1147
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:42,279
Speaker 2: Tradition, too big, No, no, no, it's just tradition and

1148
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:44,200
Speaker 2: too cold. I just think they don't want to night

1149
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 2: games in the Big Ten in November. Then the Big

1150
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 2: Ten has never played night games in November until television

1151
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:49,959
Speaker 2: came into play and then they.

1152
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 3: Forced them to. But it's usually at Rutgers.

1153
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:55,719
Speaker 2: At Maryland at Illinois those type of games, like the

1154
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 2: Big Boys don't do it, Michigan doesn't do it.

1155
00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:01,759
Speaker 3: Ohio States, that l a USC, and that's why you

1156
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 3: need Stanford And if you can.

1157
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:04,720
Speaker 2: Take Stanford, Cal, Oregon, Washington.

1158
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:07,720
Speaker 3: There's they're going Big twelve.

1159
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 4: I don't know what's going on outside, but the sky

1160
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 4: is changing colors.

1161
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 2: Is it gonna rain or is it smoke?

1162
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:16,560
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure it's smoke.

1163
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:21,360
Speaker 2: All right, very good colors to what I don't It

1164
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:24,320
Speaker 2: is a UFOs, not yellow, though right might be UFOs.

1165
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:29,280
Speaker 4: It's great. It's not green. No, no, no, green is bad things.

1166
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:31,479
Speaker 4: We're well, you're their weather guy. That's I'm asking.

1167
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:33,320
Speaker 3: No, no, no, are you just observing?

1168
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 4: No, no, no, no. It's starting to look a little like

1169
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:40,839
Speaker 4: I don't want It's not like anything like New York.

1170
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:44,360
Speaker 4: But it is a weird sky that's blowing.

1171
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 2: Fantastic, great news. Thank god it's Friday. Yeah, Final hour,

1172
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:50,879
Speaker 2: Final hour. The program up next shs to Cleveland Browns

1173
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:51,479
Speaker 2: Daily on eight.

1174
00:54:51,360 --> 00:55:01,360
Speaker 1: Fifty ESPN Cleveland, Cleveland Browns Daily, Bronte bally Bet coming

1175
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:05,000
Speaker 1: soon to Ohio on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland.

1176
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:12,239
Speaker 2: All right, welcome back to Cleveland Browns. Zaley brought you

1177
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:15,840
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1178
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:18,680
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1179
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:20,800
Speaker 2: we head to the podium in Chattoshay.

1180
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:23,919
Speaker 3: Elijah just the versatility in the way you can kind

1181
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:26,960
Speaker 3: of in flexibility have them have you had I mean,

1182
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:29,759
Speaker 3: is there a comp to somebody you've worked with in

1183
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:31,799
Speaker 3: the past, but what you can do with them.

1184
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:34,480
Speaker 7: Yeah, Elijah's very unique and that he can play in

1185
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 7: a multiple role position. He has a great skill set physically,

1186
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:42,239
Speaker 7: but the thing that's been most impressive about Elijah is

1187
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:45,359
Speaker 7: his ability to function mentally across all the spots we've

1188
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:47,759
Speaker 7: put him. We've asked a lot of him, We put

1189
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:51,320
Speaker 7: a lot of responsibility on him, not only physically and

1190
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:54,000
Speaker 7: putting them in different spots, but mentally he's been able

1191
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:57,600
Speaker 7: to handle that. So he increases his value for us

1192
00:55:57,640 --> 00:56:00,160
Speaker 7: if he increases his role and he certainly plays in

1193
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:00,959
Speaker 7: a multiple role.

1194
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:05,319
Speaker 3: Position for his size him.

1195
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:08,760
Speaker 7: Yeah, Cedric, the first thing I'll say is the person

1196
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:11,319
Speaker 7: he's Uh, he's been great to work with. He's been

1197
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:15,320
Speaker 7: very coachable, He's worked extremely hard. Uh, but it's great

1198
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:18,880
Speaker 7: to have a player of his size, and we've just

1199
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:22,319
Speaker 7: been so impressed with the way he's carried uh, you know,

1200
00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:26,920
Speaker 7: himself as a professional. He's really accepted the mentorship of

1201
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:29,759
Speaker 7: some of our veteran players and and listen closely to

1202
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:32,720
Speaker 7: what they've said. And I think that's helped him greatly

1203
00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 7: in the process. But he's improved every day and he's

1204
00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:38,640
Speaker 7: worked extremely hard.

1205
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:41,000
Speaker 5: Himself as a professional. Like can you just tell he's

1206
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:43,359
Speaker 5: a guy who's a former of like NFL players kid

1207
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:43,960
Speaker 5: and just.

1208
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:46,400
Speaker 7: Yeah, do you know, I've I've had the opportunity to

1209
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:49,160
Speaker 7: be around his parents, and it's it's evident and very

1210
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:51,440
Speaker 7: clear to me on why he is the person he is.

1211
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:54,759
Speaker 7: He has outstanding parents and I really have enjoyed my

1212
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:58,719
Speaker 7: time being around them. And uh, he's just a quality

1213
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:02,000
Speaker 7: person that brings a lot to us as as a player,

1214
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 7: but he brings a lot to us as a person. Also,

1215
00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:08,799
Speaker 7: how do you you have so many guys out there

1216
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:13,800
Speaker 7: who want that ball and especially Hopkins, how.

1217
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:17,120
Speaker 8: Do you keep everybody happy?

1218
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:19,240
Speaker 3: Yet? How's that part of your job?

1219
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:19,400
Speaker 5: Go?

1220
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's it's it's easy to keep everybody happy on

1221
00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:25,000
Speaker 7: the Cleveland Browns in our receiver room because they are

1222
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:28,720
Speaker 7: very unselfish. We have an unselfish group that puts the

1223
00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:31,880
Speaker 7: team first and everything they do. And as we talked about,

1224
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:35,480
Speaker 7: competition brings out the best in us, and competition is

1225
00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:37,640
Speaker 7: an advantage that we have if we use it that

1226
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 7: way to be better, and they've they've really embraced the competition.

1227
00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:47,360
Speaker 3: Uh. We've had a great uh work so far this spring.

1228
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:49,840
Speaker 7: They worked hard, but the competition really brings out the

1229
00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:50,680
Speaker 7: best in all of us.

1230
00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:53,600
Speaker 9: I think I asked you training camp to describe the

1231
00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:59,120
Speaker 9: personality of this receiver real because we're going for you know,

1232
00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:02,600
Speaker 9: not which has outspoken, but we have some new characters

1233
00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:04,080
Speaker 9: like Elijah and Marquise.

1234
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:05,680
Speaker 5: How would you just start all?

1235
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:08,360
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think that the room I would still describe

1236
00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:11,400
Speaker 7: as very business like, very professional, and that's not a

1237
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:14,120
Speaker 7: bad thing. They don't say much of anything, but they

1238
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:16,520
Speaker 7: come out here and they really do try to do

1239
00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:18,800
Speaker 7: what's asked of them. So that's been the joy for

1240
00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:22,160
Speaker 7: me in coaching this group is that they truly they

1241
00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:25,080
Speaker 7: listen to what you say. They're very coachable, and there's

1242
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:26,840
Speaker 7: not a lot said in the meetings. You know, we've

1243
00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:29,959
Speaker 7: brought some different personalities and some different players to our team,

1244
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:32,440
Speaker 7: which I think is always great as you move forward,

1245
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:35,960
Speaker 7: but they've been outstanding in the meeting room. They're very

1246
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:39,320
Speaker 7: all professional coach go ahead.

1247
00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:42,480
Speaker 9: Also when you look at Marquis, good Winesk. I mean,

1248
00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:44,120
Speaker 9: how much do you just see that.

1249
00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 5: Intentional for this work?

1250
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 7: Marquise is something I've been so impressed with because as

1251
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:52,640
Speaker 7: he is an older veteran wide receiver, he can still

1252
00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:55,720
Speaker 7: really run and that's been so impressive. And that's really

1253
00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:58,560
Speaker 7: a testimony to what he's done with his body and

1254
00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:01,760
Speaker 7: his preparation that he's taken and you know, and been

1255
00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:04,600
Speaker 7: very consistent in that area over the years. But it's

1256
00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:07,560
Speaker 7: been so impressive to see him run and be able

1257
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:10,640
Speaker 7: to threadn the defense with his vertical speed.

1258
00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:13,959
Speaker 4: Coach, there was that period last year when the shot

1259
00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:17,600
Speaker 4: played that there was that kind of feeling of.

1260
00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:20,480
Speaker 3: What's he doing? Is he going to throw it? Is

1261
00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:23,880
Speaker 3: he going to run? And that translates through do you

1262
00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:25,520
Speaker 3: have to work on that? Absolutely?

1263
00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:27,320
Speaker 7: And it's it's a great point you bring up, and

1264
00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:30,240
Speaker 7: it's something that we've worked really hard on this spring.

1265
00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:33,360
Speaker 7: Is you know, there's the play that's called in the

1266
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:36,040
Speaker 7: huddle and then there's that second play where the play

1267
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:39,960
Speaker 7: extends and you're really into a scramble mode. And we've

1268
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:43,000
Speaker 7: worked really hard on the fundamentals of that. We've had

1269
00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:46,080
Speaker 7: some execution on the field that has been very positive

1270
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:49,280
Speaker 7: and I think it's a it's a learning process, and

1271
00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:51,240
Speaker 7: it's something that you need to learn how to do

1272
00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:53,760
Speaker 7: when you have a player with the skill set of

1273
00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:56,240
Speaker 7: the Shawn that's able to have the ability to extend

1274
00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:58,880
Speaker 7: plays and do it so well that we need to

1275
00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:01,840
Speaker 7: be fundamentally sound in that area also, and I think

1276
01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:05,360
Speaker 7: there's some teaching involved in that. We've definitely invested time

1277
01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:08,000
Speaker 7: and the players have embraced that and it's been good

1278
01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:11,000
Speaker 7: to see them put that into action and be able to,

1279
01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:14,120
Speaker 7: you know, keep up with DeShawn when he takes.

1280
01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:16,000
Speaker 3: Off and scramble. It's over time too.

1281
01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:20,680
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's definitely something that is It doesn't happen, you know,

1282
01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:23,000
Speaker 7: just overnight. It really is something you need, we need

1283
01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:25,720
Speaker 7: to work on, and it's something that we've emphasized this spring.

1284
01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:26,680
Speaker 3: I have another.

1285
01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:31,280
Speaker 5: Marquise's questions, but you're not He's played nine seasons, but

1286
01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:34,520
Speaker 5: he only has eighteen touchdowns. Now you're thinking guy with

1287
01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:36,680
Speaker 5: that mut's speed would.

1288
01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:37,240
Speaker 3: Have more than that.

1289
01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:40,919
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think I think Marquise has done an outstanding

1290
01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:44,720
Speaker 7: job in his career of playing whatever role that he's

1291
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:47,000
Speaker 7: asked of him. You know, he's been in different roles

1292
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:49,400
Speaker 7: throughout his career. And I think the best part of

1293
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:51,400
Speaker 7: that is, you know, he might have he might have

1294
01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:54,120
Speaker 7: not been a starting receiver at all points in his career,

1295
01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:57,200
Speaker 7: but he's played so well within his role, so I

1296
01:00:57,240 --> 01:00:59,560
Speaker 7: know that when he has the opportunity to make plays

1297
01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:02,120
Speaker 7: this spring, he has made those and that's been that's

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Speaker 7: been great to see. So I'm excited about him and

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Speaker 7: whatever role we have for him, and it certainly he's

1300
01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:09,760
Speaker 7: going to create his own role. If he keeps catching

1301
01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:11,800
Speaker 7: the ball behind the defense, then he's going to have

1302
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Speaker 7: a role for this team.

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Speaker 10: More.

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01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:17,400
Speaker 7: Uh, you know, I don't even look at this the

1305
01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:19,240
Speaker 7: past stats. I just kind of look at where he

1306
01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:21,160
Speaker 7: is for us right now and I see a player

1307
01:01:21,240 --> 01:01:24,120
Speaker 7: that can contribute to our offense and and he is

1308
01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:26,760
Speaker 7: a unique skill set, can really run and catch the ball.

1309
01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:30,479
Speaker 7: So we're excited about him real quick.

1310
01:01:31,160 --> 01:01:33,960
Speaker 3: What you know, his skill set.

1311
01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:38,760
Speaker 7: So compatible with Yeah, I think Elijah's unique in his

1312
01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:42,760
Speaker 7: skill set. He has a great athleticism, both short area

1313
01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:46,120
Speaker 7: athleticism and his ability to run and have great speed.

1314
01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:49,280
Speaker 7: And the thing that I've been most impressed with him

1315
01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:52,200
Speaker 7: physically is his ability to catch the ball. He has

1316
01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:56,160
Speaker 7: exceptional ball skills and very strong hands, So as well

1317
01:01:56,200 --> 01:01:59,120
Speaker 7: as Deshaun throws the ball, and as well as DeShawn

1318
01:01:59,160 --> 01:02:01,840
Speaker 7: throws the ball down on the field, He's Elijah's able

1319
01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:03,800
Speaker 7: to track the ball at all levels of the of

1320
01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:06,120
Speaker 7: the offense. He can track the ball in that short

1321
01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:08,360
Speaker 7: area and take a ball and catch and run. He

1322
01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:10,720
Speaker 7: can get behind the defense and track the deep ball

1323
01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:14,200
Speaker 7: very well. And especially at his size being a smaller receiver,

1324
01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:17,520
Speaker 7: he's he really plays big. In my opinion, He's got

1325
01:02:17,560 --> 01:02:20,080
Speaker 7: exceptional ball skills. So it fits fits really well with

1326
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Speaker 7: our quarterback.

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Speaker 10: And with you know, not giving away some of these

1328
01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:24,800
Speaker 10: things that we've been seeing, you guys can do some

1329
01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:25,960
Speaker 10: really cool and.

1330
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Speaker 5: Creative things with him.

1331
01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:30,400
Speaker 7: Yeah, Elijah's been been great because his skill set, both

1332
01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:34,400
Speaker 7: mentally and from a physical standpoint, has allowed us to

1333
01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:36,640
Speaker 7: do a lot of different things with him. It's been

1334
01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:39,240
Speaker 7: really a fun guy to coach and to scheme for

1335
01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:42,040
Speaker 7: because of his ability to play in a lot of

1336
01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:43,040
Speaker 7: different positions.

1337
01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:45,360
Speaker 3: And then I wanted to ask.

1338
01:02:45,160 --> 01:02:46,360
Speaker 2: You a little bit about MARII.

1339
01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:48,760
Speaker 3: He seems, you know, lighter, happier.

1340
01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:50,959
Speaker 4: I think that, you know, normals, the thing was probably

1341
01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:53,000
Speaker 4: weighing out him a lot less, right, He just seems

1342
01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:56,120
Speaker 4: like he's kind of in his career that he's himself here.

1343
01:02:56,360 --> 01:02:58,160
Speaker 7: I think that last year looking at a Mari was

1344
01:02:58,160 --> 01:03:00,240
Speaker 7: like a tale of two seasons when you saw him

1345
01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:02,560
Speaker 7: physically at the front end of the season. It was

1346
01:03:02,560 --> 01:03:04,720
Speaker 7: obviously different at the end because he was dealing with

1347
01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:07,040
Speaker 7: an injury. And we we have a lot of respect

1348
01:03:07,040 --> 01:03:08,520
Speaker 7: and I know I have a lot of admiration for

1349
01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:10,200
Speaker 7: what he played through at the end of the season

1350
01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:13,160
Speaker 7: because he played and he was injured and that that

1351
01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:15,680
Speaker 7: means a lot, and he cares about the team. But

1352
01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:18,080
Speaker 7: he goes and has the surgery. I think he feels

1353
01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:20,960
Speaker 7: he feels great. It's good to see him back on

1354
01:03:21,160 --> 01:03:23,600
Speaker 7: the grass and good to see him in really good

1355
01:03:23,600 --> 01:03:25,880
Speaker 7: spirits and confident about where he is physically.

1356
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Speaker 3: Appreciate.

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01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:31,200
Speaker 11: I actually asked year during frame of camp about the

1358
01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:34,080
Speaker 11: variety of weapons.

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Speaker 3: That you had.

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01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:36,600
Speaker 11: Yeah, and it seems like this offseason you guys have

1361
01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:40,400
Speaker 11: maybe even increased that a little bit more. From your perspective,

1362
01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:43,200
Speaker 11: what does that look like and how beneficial had these

1363
01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:45,400
Speaker 11: additions been to the roster and to what the offense

1364
01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:45,680
Speaker 11: could be.

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01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:48,000
Speaker 7: It's been great to add the pieces that we have

1366
01:03:48,040 --> 01:03:51,360
Speaker 7: at receiver. I mean they have been so impressive this spring,

1367
01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:53,800
Speaker 7: you know, and their ability to work with each other

1368
01:03:53,840 --> 01:03:55,920
Speaker 7: has been great. So they're they're really coming in as

1369
01:03:55,960 --> 01:03:56,920
Speaker 7: accomplished players.

1370
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Speaker 3: You know.

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01:03:57,160 --> 01:03:59,760
Speaker 7: He has done a great job of coming in learning

1372
01:03:59,800 --> 01:04:02,720
Speaker 7: the offense. Marquise great job of coming and learning the offense.

1373
01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:05,320
Speaker 7: But they have a skill set that's very unique, both

1374
01:04:05,320 --> 01:04:07,560
Speaker 7: of them. They can run, they can get open, they

1375
01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:09,320
Speaker 7: can catch the ball. So it's been a lot of

1376
01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:13,000
Speaker 7: fun to see them kind of integrate with our other

1377
01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:15,720
Speaker 7: players and see them just kind of fit right in.

1378
01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:17,760
Speaker 11: I wanted to ask you about Marquise because we also

1379
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:20,439
Speaker 11: talked about the chemistry, the kind of the personalities. Yeah,

1380
01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:22,680
Speaker 11: the different guys that different personalities. Marquise seems like that

1381
01:04:22,680 --> 01:04:23,800
Speaker 11: guy he's out there, he's chippy.

1382
01:04:23,960 --> 01:04:27,120
Speaker 7: Yeah, I would say right now, he's He's definitely said

1383
01:04:27,160 --> 01:04:29,479
Speaker 7: more than our other guys all together, you know, which

1384
01:04:29,520 --> 01:04:32,360
Speaker 7: is fine. I mean, my philosophy on that is as

1385
01:04:32,360 --> 01:04:34,040
Speaker 7: long as they come out here and do their job

1386
01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:37,840
Speaker 7: and you know, do what's best for the team, and

1387
01:04:39,040 --> 01:04:40,120
Speaker 7: you know, we want them to have fun.

1388
01:04:40,160 --> 01:04:41,400
Speaker 3: We want them to have some energy.

1389
01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:44,680
Speaker 7: We like that and it's been good for our group

1390
01:04:44,760 --> 01:04:46,320
Speaker 7: because we do have a quiet group.

1391
01:04:46,360 --> 01:04:47,200
Speaker 3: Personality wise.

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01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:48,920
Speaker 11: Do you see that on the other side of the

1393
01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:50,960
Speaker 11: wall that you're on, they're chipping at the defense and

1394
01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:51,880
Speaker 11: they're getting each other fires.

1395
01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:52,200
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1396
01:04:52,280 --> 01:04:54,400
Speaker 11: Is that something that you guys talk about as coaches,

1397
01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:56,280
Speaker 11: like these guys will get each other fires, And.

1398
01:04:56,360 --> 01:04:57,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're aware of it.

1399
01:04:57,560 --> 01:05:00,200
Speaker 7: You know, we describe it as energy, and in a

1400
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:02,240
Speaker 7: lot of times it's very positive energy. And I think

1401
01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:04,560
Speaker 7: the main thing as long as it doesn't take away

1402
01:05:04,560 --> 01:05:07,760
Speaker 7: from their job, it's what's most important, and it certainly hasn't.

1403
01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:10,200
Speaker 7: They've been very professional and are able to have fun

1404
01:05:10,240 --> 01:05:10,919
Speaker 7: at the same time.

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01:05:11,760 --> 01:05:13,760
Speaker 2: You have no idea what's going to happen by the

1406
01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:16,680
Speaker 2: time you get to next season, But for now, on

1407
01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:20,320
Speaker 2: June eighth, it is pretty remarkable what Andrew Berry was

1408
01:05:20,360 --> 01:05:22,240
Speaker 2: able to do this offseason to that room.

1409
01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:27,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, transformed, and it was it was priority I think

1410
01:05:27,240 --> 01:05:29,560
Speaker 3: clearly number one user second round pick on it. You

1411
01:05:29,600 --> 01:05:31,240
Speaker 3: got a third back, you use that first pick on

1412
01:05:31,280 --> 01:05:33,920
Speaker 3: the wide receiver room. You brought in the speed veteran

1413
01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:36,960
Speaker 3: Marquise Goodwin, and you know, I think ultimately that's going

1414
01:05:37,000 --> 01:05:38,560
Speaker 3: to look like because it was Remember there's a lot

1415
01:05:38,560 --> 01:05:40,440
Speaker 3: of time about Mimole Hardman. Yeah, Cole Harmon I think

1416
01:05:40,440 --> 01:05:41,880
Speaker 3: would have been a great addition to our team. But

1417
01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:43,800
Speaker 3: I think you're gonna get a lot of what you

1418
01:05:43,800 --> 01:05:48,120
Speaker 3: would have gotten out of Hardman from Goodwin for significantly

1419
01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:52,120
Speaker 3: cheaper and Hardman going to the Jets I think made

1420
01:05:52,160 --> 01:05:54,160
Speaker 3: it a lot easier for you to get Elijah Moore right.

1421
01:05:54,320 --> 01:05:56,040
Speaker 2: Well, you said that when that happened. I remember you

1422
01:05:56,040 --> 01:05:58,160
Speaker 2: bringing that up about watch out for Elijamore. You knew

1423
01:05:58,160 --> 01:06:00,680
Speaker 2: that they liked him, and that was very impression of you.

1424
01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:01,880
Speaker 3: Beyond the world.

1425
01:06:02,520 --> 01:06:05,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you feel that feels like a really dynamic

1426
01:06:05,520 --> 01:06:09,120
Speaker 2: room in the early parts of June, and it feels

1427
01:06:09,120 --> 01:06:11,640
Speaker 2: like there's a lot of diversity and weapons there.

1428
01:06:12,040 --> 01:06:14,720
Speaker 3: It is, and I can tell you from talking to

1429
01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:18,960
Speaker 3: our dbs. Yeah, it is a noticeable difference in the

1430
01:06:19,040 --> 01:06:21,560
Speaker 3: quality of the arsenal that we are that were trotting

1431
01:06:21,640 --> 01:06:24,200
Speaker 3: out there right now, from like top to bottom. I mean,

1432
01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:25,960
Speaker 3: i'd say in the past we didn't have good receivers.

1433
01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:27,040
Speaker 3: We did O'Dell. Yeah, it was.

1434
01:06:27,080 --> 01:06:30,240
Speaker 2: Excellent Hodel and Jarvis Or they were both healthy, were sensational.

1435
01:06:30,360 --> 01:06:33,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is now, it's like a way it's waves.

1436
01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:37,360
Speaker 3: Amari Donovan DBJ has become a legit, dude.

1437
01:06:38,080 --> 01:06:40,800
Speaker 2: It's only because of where he was drafted. I think

1438
01:06:41,240 --> 01:06:45,000
Speaker 2: that he If Donovan Peoples Jones had gone to Ohio State,

1439
01:06:45,520 --> 01:06:48,280
Speaker 2: he would have been a first or high second round pick,

1440
01:06:48,520 --> 01:06:51,440
Speaker 2: and he would be viewed entirely differently by the public

1441
01:06:51,640 --> 01:06:53,520
Speaker 2: at large, and he would have come to the league

1442
01:06:53,520 --> 01:06:55,960
Speaker 2: with more opportunity. He'd begins where I was going. Yes,

1443
01:06:56,040 --> 01:06:59,240
Speaker 2: you would have gotten at bats right away. But because

1444
01:06:59,280 --> 01:07:01,320
Speaker 2: he was a sixth because he felt this was the

1445
01:07:01,400 --> 01:07:03,800
Speaker 2: number one receiver in the country coming out of high school.

1446
01:07:04,280 --> 01:07:05,880
Speaker 3: Like he is a dude.

1447
01:07:05,960 --> 01:07:08,800
Speaker 2: And the fact every way the first time he did

1448
01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:10,959
Speaker 2: any meaningful I mean the block we noticed right away

1449
01:07:10,960 --> 01:07:14,240
Speaker 2: that game in Dallas, but then in Cincinnati, I mean

1450
01:07:14,240 --> 01:07:17,000
Speaker 2: those catches he makes. Is a rookie like he's always

1451
01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:19,720
Speaker 2: been a gamer. Like I don't know why people think

1452
01:07:19,760 --> 01:07:21,720
Speaker 2: that he's he says, odd, we got we got it

1453
01:07:21,800 --> 01:07:24,400
Speaker 2: up now. No, you don't need to He's good.

1454
01:07:24,840 --> 01:07:27,320
Speaker 3: He's a dude. Give a trivia. Who completed the first

1455
01:07:27,560 --> 01:07:29,760
Speaker 3: who threw the first pass down People's Jones ever caught

1456
01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:37,640
Speaker 3: in the NFL? Baker Mayfield Jarvis, wasn't it? Yes, Jervis

1457
01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:42,240
Speaker 3: those Jarvis against Cincinnati, those first catches Jervis. I do

1458
01:07:42,320 --> 01:07:44,840
Speaker 3: love I love Jarvis, Oh my god, I love him.

1459
01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:47,200
Speaker 2: So yeah, all right, what do we got?

1460
01:07:47,240 --> 01:07:49,240
Speaker 3: What do we got? Peopa? Gibby? What do we got

1461
01:07:49,240 --> 01:07:51,840
Speaker 3: coming out? People? He's taking a nap over there, and

1462
01:07:51,840 --> 01:07:53,640
Speaker 3: he just chimes in with the wrong answer and then

1463
01:07:53,680 --> 01:07:54,880
Speaker 3: goes right back to du.

1464
01:07:56,400 --> 01:07:57,160
Speaker 2: He's got his work.

1465
01:07:57,200 --> 01:08:00,280
Speaker 3: I'm trying to trying to add more to your played

1466
01:08:00,280 --> 01:08:01,120
Speaker 3: here for three o'clock.

1467
01:08:01,240 --> 01:08:04,600
Speaker 2: Gibbe was by the way, Gibbe was terrified about the smoke.

1468
01:08:04,680 --> 01:08:06,760
Speaker 2: The situation in terms of the sky, that is for

1469
01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:09,760
Speaker 2: sure smokes.

1470
01:08:10,080 --> 01:08:12,840
Speaker 3: That's the smoke. You guys are worried about smoke. Do

1471
01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:14,640
Speaker 3: you read that? You read that thing I sent you

1472
01:08:14,640 --> 01:08:17,840
Speaker 3: about the UFOs? Yeah, I'm not hard of reading. Okay,

1473
01:08:17,880 --> 01:08:20,760
Speaker 3: And what'd you come? Did you see the one that

1474
01:08:20,800 --> 01:08:23,240
Speaker 3: looks like it just crashed in Vegas? I know, and

1475
01:08:23,280 --> 01:08:25,040
Speaker 3: they got the footage of it. I know, I know.

1476
01:08:25,720 --> 01:08:27,120
Speaker 3: I don't know what to do with this? What are

1477
01:08:27,120 --> 01:08:29,040
Speaker 3: we going to do with this? Hope? Hope they come

1478
01:08:29,080 --> 01:08:29,400
Speaker 3: in peace.

1479
01:08:29,439 --> 01:08:32,559
Speaker 2: It seems like every three or four whatever, stuff pops

1480
01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:34,280
Speaker 2: up and then but I don't know, this does feel

1481
01:08:34,280 --> 01:08:35,240
Speaker 2: like there's more smoke to.

1482
01:08:35,240 --> 01:08:39,360
Speaker 3: This let's hope they come in peace. Yeah. Whatever, be

1483
01:08:39,439 --> 01:08:40,000
Speaker 3: our buddies.

1484
01:08:40,920 --> 01:08:43,960
Speaker 2: We have things to give them.

1485
01:08:44,080 --> 01:08:45,120
Speaker 3: I'll go hang out with them.

1486
01:08:45,400 --> 01:08:52,519
Speaker 2: He would bed into right into it. There's no doubt

1487
01:08:52,720 --> 01:08:56,040
Speaker 2: you'd be doing that. There's zero, zero doubt in that.

1488
01:08:57,080 --> 01:08:59,320
Speaker 2: We go around the sports world. Plenty more to come.

1489
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Speaker 2: you watch any of the hoops last night?

1497
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Speaker 3: Yeah, for a few seconds, and my question to you

1498
01:09:42,040 --> 01:09:44,400
Speaker 3: is this, I'll answer, and I realize he's got one

1499
01:09:44,479 --> 01:09:46,080
Speaker 3: now back to back MVPs.

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Speaker 2: He won, He did win back to back.

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01:09:48,439 --> 01:09:50,720
Speaker 3: He didn't win this this year. He lost the NB one. Yeah,

1502
01:09:51,560 --> 01:09:56,840
Speaker 3: I don't think. I don't think Jen pub he gets

1503
01:09:56,880 --> 01:10:00,080
Speaker 3: the do that he deserves like NBA.

1504
01:10:00,040 --> 01:10:03,200
Speaker 2: People do, Like people watch all the time. But no,

1505
01:10:03,280 --> 01:10:05,120
Speaker 2: I mean he's he's usually the last pick in the

1506
01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:08,400
Speaker 2: All Star Game. Even amongst his peers, he's usually the

1507
01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:10,240
Speaker 2: second two or last or second to last pick in

1508
01:10:10,280 --> 01:10:15,200
Speaker 2: the All Star Game. Yeah, it's a it's strange. He's

1509
01:10:15,280 --> 01:10:16,080
Speaker 2: so dominant.

1510
01:10:16,200 --> 01:10:18,559
Speaker 3: He should be, like, not obviously on the level of

1511
01:10:18,640 --> 01:10:22,240
Speaker 3: Jordan or Lebron, but he should be I feel like

1512
01:10:22,240 --> 01:10:24,840
Speaker 3: a much more of a household name and people having

1513
01:10:24,840 --> 01:10:26,880
Speaker 3: an understanding of his game than they do. The guy

1514
01:10:26,920 --> 01:10:31,240
Speaker 3: just think it's Denver ten Yeah, and he does stuff

1515
01:10:31,280 --> 01:10:34,800
Speaker 3: like that on the reg Yeah, the Unicorn. Yeah, yeah,

1516
01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:36,559
Speaker 3: he's so skilled.

1517
01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:38,880
Speaker 2: I think it's Denver. A lot of their games at

1518
01:10:38,880 --> 01:10:42,040
Speaker 2: ten o'clock and I think, you know, yeah. The other

1519
01:10:42,040 --> 01:10:43,840
Speaker 2: thing you got to remember about them is they this

1520
01:10:43,880 --> 01:10:46,240
Speaker 2: is really the first year that they've had Jamal Murray back,

1521
01:10:46,520 --> 01:10:48,720
Speaker 2: and he's a star. He had a triple double last night.

1522
01:10:49,720 --> 01:10:50,519
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, So.

1523
01:10:52,320 --> 01:10:54,800
Speaker 2: Now that they have Murray back, now they're like that

1524
01:10:54,920 --> 01:10:57,240
Speaker 2: complete team. The crazy thing about them is they're not

1525
01:10:57,280 --> 01:11:01,080
Speaker 2: going anywhere like their length with Porter and Gordon and Bron.

1526
01:11:01,080 --> 01:11:02,600
Speaker 2: The kid out of the rookie out of Kansas was

1527
01:11:02,720 --> 01:11:06,920
Speaker 2: Brown was great last night. Yeah, so they've got they

1528
01:11:06,920 --> 01:11:08,719
Speaker 2: are going to be in the mix for a while.

1529
01:11:09,160 --> 01:11:12,519
Speaker 2: And with their length and with Murray becoming back to

1530
01:11:12,520 --> 01:11:14,160
Speaker 2: what he was in the bubble, which is a star,

1531
01:11:14,960 --> 01:11:17,639
Speaker 2: then it's hard to imagine them not having this perch

1532
01:11:17,680 --> 01:11:20,080
Speaker 2: for three to four years. They're really very sustainable.

1533
01:11:20,160 --> 01:11:21,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, Cauled of Popes a solid.

1534
01:11:22,280 --> 01:11:23,160
Speaker 2: They'll always get guys.

1535
01:11:23,479 --> 01:11:26,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, just get that lengthy lank, you know, lanky defender.

1536
01:11:27,200 --> 01:11:31,439
Speaker 3: It's amazing that the Heat won Game two. Again, I

1537
01:11:31,479 --> 01:11:33,680
Speaker 3: feel like if they had, maybe because the Nuggets could

1538
01:11:33,680 --> 01:11:35,879
Speaker 3: have closed that game out. He basically played a flawless

1539
01:11:35,880 --> 01:11:38,320
Speaker 3: fourth quarter. Yeah, come back from down eight to win

1540
01:11:38,360 --> 01:11:41,680
Speaker 3: that game. The Nuggets are the better team. I just

1541
01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:47,160
Speaker 3: think it's going five and it almost feels like where

1542
01:11:47,200 --> 01:11:49,920
Speaker 3: we are right now with sports, and it's great for

1543
01:11:50,120 --> 01:11:53,040
Speaker 3: you know, us because we deal with the Browns and

1544
01:11:53,080 --> 01:11:54,960
Speaker 3: you deal with the Browns and then the Buckeyes college

1545
01:11:54,960 --> 01:11:59,760
Speaker 3: football that, like many camps, are a bigger deal, and

1546
01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:01,920
Speaker 3: Dalvin Cook getting released is a bigger deal. In the

1547
01:12:01,960 --> 01:12:04,960
Speaker 3: fact that Jokics just dropped triple double in the Game

1548
01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:06,840
Speaker 3: three of the NBA Finals.

1549
01:12:07,120 --> 01:12:09,720
Speaker 2: Some of it is a product probably of our circumstances.

1550
01:12:10,880 --> 01:12:12,840
Speaker 2: But I will I always do the kid test, like

1551
01:12:12,880 --> 01:12:15,760
Speaker 2: what are my are my kids into it? So last

1552
01:12:15,880 --> 01:12:17,880
Speaker 2: night I said to NBC, I said, you want to

1553
01:12:17,880 --> 01:12:19,400
Speaker 2: watch some of the finals. He's like, I'm just not

1554
01:12:19,560 --> 01:12:22,000
Speaker 2: interested in this, And he watched all of it leading

1555
01:12:22,080 --> 01:12:25,080
Speaker 2: up to it, but he has not had much interest

1556
01:12:25,120 --> 01:12:26,880
Speaker 2: in these finals. And I don't know why because we

1557
01:12:26,920 --> 01:12:29,040
Speaker 2: watched all of the playoffs leading up to it. Obviously

1558
01:12:29,080 --> 01:12:31,320
Speaker 2: have a vested interest in the Cavs, and he's like

1559
01:12:31,360 --> 01:12:33,120
Speaker 2: the Lakers because I grew up a Lakers fan, so

1560
01:12:33,400 --> 01:12:35,000
Speaker 2: there's a little bit of that. But then once that

1561
01:12:35,200 --> 01:12:35,719
Speaker 2: died out.

1562
01:12:35,960 --> 01:12:38,640
Speaker 4: I feel like once the first and second round of

1563
01:12:38,680 --> 01:12:44,280
Speaker 4: the playoffs wrapped, it hasn't been great, like the conference championship,

1564
01:12:44,520 --> 01:12:49,400
Speaker 4: like Miami, like the Celtics. Yeah, but like for the

1565
01:12:49,439 --> 01:12:52,679
Speaker 4: first three games, Game.

1566
01:12:52,520 --> 01:12:54,599
Speaker 3: Seven was a bad game and then the Nuggets swept

1567
01:12:54,600 --> 01:12:55,120
Speaker 3: the Lakers.

1568
01:12:55,760 --> 01:12:58,760
Speaker 2: Did the Lakers get one?

1569
01:12:59,280 --> 01:13:00,559
Speaker 3: I think they swapt them.

1570
01:13:01,040 --> 01:13:03,720
Speaker 2: The games are all competitive though, they were all competitive

1571
01:13:03,760 --> 01:13:04,479
Speaker 2: down to the last.

1572
01:13:04,720 --> 01:13:07,080
Speaker 3: But like after that second round when it was.

1573
01:13:08,680 --> 01:13:14,240
Speaker 4: Warriors like conference, Yeah, you had some Celtic sixers, Yeah,

1574
01:13:14,439 --> 01:13:16,800
Speaker 4: you had good stuff, like I just don't think the

1575
01:13:16,920 --> 01:13:18,040
Speaker 4: quality has been there.

1576
01:13:18,400 --> 01:13:23,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think also like Miami, Miami has they're

1577
01:13:23,320 --> 01:13:25,280
Speaker 2: knocking their head up against the ceiling. They can't. They

1578
01:13:25,280 --> 01:13:27,880
Speaker 2: don't have anything else they can do. They've thrown everything

1579
01:13:27,880 --> 01:13:31,120
Speaker 2: at him, bargain injury to yok at your murray. There's

1580
01:13:31,200 --> 01:13:33,160
Speaker 2: really no path for them to get back in the

1581
01:13:33,200 --> 01:13:35,560
Speaker 2: series and win more games. They had they played the

1582
01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:38,000
Speaker 2: perfect game and made the perfect adjustments in game two.

1583
01:13:38,240 --> 01:13:40,200
Speaker 2: They threw everything at him. Yesterday and the third like

1584
01:13:40,200 --> 01:13:42,640
Speaker 2: they were pressing them. They played zone every time they

1585
01:13:42,640 --> 01:13:44,840
Speaker 2: got into something, Denver just ping, ping, ping out of it,

1586
01:13:44,920 --> 01:13:47,040
Speaker 2: and it's like, well, we can't do this, so there's

1587
01:13:47,080 --> 01:13:48,200
Speaker 2: no real move.

1588
01:13:48,320 --> 01:13:52,120
Speaker 3: I don't think he's just for them. He's good, really good.

1589
01:13:52,439 --> 01:13:54,960
Speaker 3: It feels to me, and maybe this is you could

1590
01:13:54,960 --> 01:13:57,519
Speaker 3: tell me if this is off or this is my age,

1591
01:13:57,560 --> 01:14:00,400
Speaker 3: which we share, we're in the similar ballpark. Sure, it

1592
01:14:00,400 --> 01:14:04,200
Speaker 3: feels to me that if Jokic was doing what he's

1593
01:14:04,280 --> 01:14:09,400
Speaker 3: doing now, and he was doing this in the eighties

1594
01:14:09,439 --> 01:14:15,519
Speaker 3: and nineties, he would be a much bigger deal. As

1595
01:14:15,560 --> 01:14:18,639
Speaker 3: I'm talking household name, I'm talking not in NBA circles,

1596
01:14:18,680 --> 01:14:20,400
Speaker 3: I'm talking just in public circles.

1597
01:14:20,800 --> 01:14:24,040
Speaker 2: He's I guess probably the most similar apples to apples

1598
01:14:24,040 --> 01:14:28,240
Speaker 2: for him from a previous generation is probably Davitsky because

1599
01:14:28,320 --> 01:14:29,120
Speaker 2: Davitsky had that.

1600
01:14:29,080 --> 01:14:30,720
Speaker 3: Feel like Davinski was a big deal.

1601
01:14:30,800 --> 01:14:33,519
Speaker 2: He was, but it really wasn't until he won that

1602
01:14:34,040 --> 01:14:38,400
Speaker 2: championship that he really elevated and it was like, Oh,

1603
01:14:38,439 --> 01:14:40,720
Speaker 2: he's unbelievable. It's a seven footer who can get a

1604
01:14:40,720 --> 01:14:43,280
Speaker 2: shot off from anywhere, like one of the best shooters

1605
01:14:43,280 --> 01:14:46,760
Speaker 2: of all time, Like that didn't happen until he won it.

1606
01:14:46,800 --> 01:14:48,519
Speaker 2: So I think this is what I think this has

1607
01:14:48,560 --> 01:14:51,800
Speaker 2: all been. This whole playoffs has been a coronation of

1608
01:14:51,880 --> 01:14:55,240
Speaker 2: Jokic of for the casual fan to be like, oh,

1609
01:14:56,000 --> 01:14:58,000
Speaker 2: this is what the two MVPs are about.

1610
01:14:58,920 --> 01:15:02,920
Speaker 3: Am I wrong to say that if he does what

1611
01:15:02,960 --> 01:15:04,960
Speaker 3: he's doing, let's call it for another two years where

1612
01:15:04,960 --> 01:15:08,800
Speaker 3: he's a legit five straight year MVP candidate his size,

1613
01:15:08,840 --> 01:15:12,960
Speaker 3: wins a championship, maybe wins another. Like is he a

1614
01:15:12,960 --> 01:15:16,040
Speaker 3: guy who's because of what he is able to do?

1615
01:15:16,120 --> 01:15:19,639
Speaker 3: Is he putting himself on the greatest basketball team ever assembled?

1616
01:15:20,960 --> 01:15:23,839
Speaker 2: So he'd have to like nudge out Duncan.

1617
01:15:24,360 --> 01:15:25,880
Speaker 3: That's exactly why I had in my mind.

1618
01:15:26,160 --> 01:15:28,200
Speaker 2: You know, that's like what you're talking about. You're talking

1619
01:15:28,200 --> 01:15:31,640
Speaker 2: about like Tim Duncan is where you you have to

1620
01:15:31,680 --> 01:15:32,800
Speaker 2: push Duncan out of the way.

1621
01:15:32,880 --> 01:15:33,639
Speaker 3: So Duncan won.

1622
01:15:33,600 --> 01:15:39,639
Speaker 2: Five titles with the Spurs, three MVPs. So the one

1623
01:15:39,640 --> 01:15:40,560
Speaker 2: thing that yoga.

1624
01:15:40,360 --> 01:15:45,439
Speaker 3: Than today's today, Yeah, is Yokicic more dangerous because of

1625
01:15:45,479 --> 01:15:48,960
Speaker 3: his floor complete using every inch of the floor skill

1626
01:15:48,960 --> 01:15:50,280
Speaker 3: set than Duncan and Duncan.

1627
01:15:50,160 --> 01:15:57,400
Speaker 2: I can't I reject trying to compare generations in that sport, yeah,

1628
01:15:57,439 --> 01:16:01,160
Speaker 2: because I just think it's impossible because you can't take.

1629
01:16:02,120 --> 01:16:05,760
Speaker 2: You cannot take. I mean, is a center, Okay, can

1630
01:16:05,800 --> 01:16:10,040
Speaker 2: you imagine if he had to body Shaquille O'Neal, or

1631
01:16:10,080 --> 01:16:12,240
Speaker 2: if he played in the nineties and it was David

1632
01:16:12,320 --> 01:16:15,160
Speaker 2: Robinson a chem Olajuan Shaquil O'Neil or Vitas a Bonus,

1633
01:16:15,360 --> 01:16:19,680
Speaker 2: all those big, powerful offensive low post. If he had

1634
01:16:19,680 --> 01:16:23,360
Speaker 2: to do that, what is that that allowed physical play

1635
01:16:23,360 --> 01:16:24,800
Speaker 2: that encouraged to cover him.

1636
01:16:24,920 --> 01:16:27,479
Speaker 3: Jack's not running around with him young shack, Sure, but no.

1637
01:16:27,520 --> 01:16:28,920
Speaker 2: But I mean he could go out there and get

1638
01:16:28,920 --> 01:16:32,360
Speaker 2: an arm out. Like I just you can't really compare

1639
01:16:33,479 --> 01:16:36,720
Speaker 2: and at all. I'll tell you what it is is.

1640
01:16:37,800 --> 01:16:44,240
Speaker 2: I mean, what's happened is European uh, European influenced basketball

1641
01:16:45,600 --> 01:16:49,160
Speaker 2: is being taught at a superior level than American influenced

1642
01:16:49,160 --> 01:16:52,880
Speaker 2: basketball is being taught. American influenced basketball is being taught

1643
01:16:53,040 --> 01:16:57,080
Speaker 2: primarily at the AAU level. It's being primarily taught via

1644
01:16:57,120 --> 01:17:00,960
Speaker 2: the use of one on one and isolation. And what

1645
01:17:01,000 --> 01:17:05,479
Speaker 2: you're seeing is in European basketball, you are seeing movement,

1646
01:17:05,720 --> 01:17:09,320
Speaker 2: You're seeing skill development in terms of shooting. I mean,

1647
01:17:09,840 --> 01:17:13,879
Speaker 2: those things are not being taught to American basketball players anymore.

1648
01:17:13,960 --> 01:17:15,479
Speaker 3: They're not. They haven't been for a long time.

1649
01:17:15,960 --> 01:17:20,120
Speaker 2: So, like, I mean, just do this, like try to

1650
01:17:20,400 --> 01:17:23,800
Speaker 2: try to name, like who you think could be the

1651
01:17:23,800 --> 01:17:29,920
Speaker 2: next American face of the league. I'll wait, it's gonna

1652
01:17:29,920 --> 01:17:34,599
Speaker 2: take you a while, because it's right now. It's Jokic,

1653
01:17:35,120 --> 01:17:40,559
Speaker 2: Jannis Embiid, all foreign answers, if wembin Yama, if Tatum

1654
01:17:40,600 --> 01:17:41,760
Speaker 2: gets it together.

1655
01:17:42,880 --> 01:17:45,360
Speaker 3: He's gotta go. Well yeah, no doubt, he's gotta go.

1656
01:17:46,280 --> 01:17:50,240
Speaker 2: If Donovan Mitchell were twenty two, you know, but he's

1657
01:17:50,240 --> 01:17:53,880
Speaker 2: twenty seven. Yeah, like you know, because it was Steph

1658
01:17:53,920 --> 01:17:57,680
Speaker 2: and it was Lebron, but there's not a there's not

1659
01:17:57,760 --> 01:18:01,519
Speaker 2: a guy there waiting, Like Tatum's not going to be Kobe.

1660
01:18:03,120 --> 01:18:05,200
Speaker 2: He's a nice player, but he's not going to be Kobe.

1661
01:18:05,240 --> 01:18:08,519
Speaker 2: He's more like McGrady and he's got to be able

1662
01:18:08,520 --> 01:18:10,720
Speaker 2: to prove that he can have the playoff toughness. You

1663
01:18:10,800 --> 01:18:13,880
Speaker 2: got to hutzpah stack those things like it's hard to

1664
01:18:14,080 --> 01:18:16,559
Speaker 2: find who that would be.

1665
01:18:16,880 --> 01:18:20,519
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think what's interesting is that this is again

1666
01:18:20,560 --> 01:18:22,720
Speaker 3: I'm very casual in it, but the guys that have

1667
01:18:22,800 --> 01:18:27,560
Speaker 3: come out super hyped out of college have not materialized

1668
01:18:27,640 --> 01:18:30,000
Speaker 3: in the NBA. And I'll just give you a few

1669
01:18:30,080 --> 01:18:32,800
Speaker 3: names that popped away my mind. Zion obviously, yeah, was

1670
01:18:32,880 --> 01:18:35,559
Speaker 3: ready made, sup megastar. Nothing he's getting he's got his

1671
01:18:35,600 --> 01:18:39,400
Speaker 3: own issues now. Yeah, like Jabari Parker, Oh yeah, yeah.

1672
01:18:39,240 --> 01:18:40,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1673
01:18:41,040 --> 01:18:42,720
Speaker 3: I'll even go back and the guy stay in the

1674
01:18:42,760 --> 01:18:43,920
Speaker 3: league for a long time. But I want to say he

1675
01:18:43,960 --> 01:18:47,240
Speaker 3: say Marvin Williams. Yeah, the kid out of North Carolina. Yeah, yeah,

1676
01:18:47,280 --> 01:18:48,559
Speaker 3: he's stay in the league for a long time, but

1677
01:18:48,640 --> 01:18:49,280
Speaker 3: was never well.

1678
01:18:49,360 --> 01:18:50,720
Speaker 2: There are a lot of guys who are just what

1679
01:18:50,760 --> 01:18:54,120
Speaker 2: happens is is like you are picking. So what makes

1680
01:18:54,160 --> 01:18:57,160
Speaker 2: a kid a five star prospect out of coming out

1681
01:18:57,200 --> 01:18:59,240
Speaker 2: of high school. There's a great example of this. Chris

1682
01:18:59,280 --> 01:19:02,280
Speaker 2: Livingston was a kid. He's an acron kid. I think

1683
01:19:02,280 --> 01:19:04,439
Speaker 2: he played a year at Western Reserve and maybe a

1684
01:19:04,479 --> 01:19:06,040
Speaker 2: year at Buckdal and then maybe he ended up at

1685
01:19:06,040 --> 01:19:07,840
Speaker 2: Oak Hill and then he was he was a five

1686
01:19:07,840 --> 01:19:09,920
Speaker 2: star kid. He ended up at Kentucky, played last year

1687
01:19:09,920 --> 01:19:13,000
Speaker 2: a Kentucky didn't was kind of a bit player at Kentucky,

1688
01:19:13,280 --> 01:19:17,000
Speaker 2: was a six man. Sometimes started, good player, but was

1689
01:19:17,080 --> 01:19:19,680
Speaker 2: done by no means dominant. Well, he declared for the

1690
01:19:19,760 --> 01:19:22,599
Speaker 2: NBA Draft. It's like the fifty ninth player or fifty

1691
01:19:22,800 --> 01:19:25,760
Speaker 2: somewhere between forty five and fifty five in terms of rank.

1692
01:19:25,800 --> 01:19:27,360
Speaker 2: He's gonna be a second round pick. He declared for

1693
01:19:27,360 --> 01:19:30,280
Speaker 2: the draft. Why because he didn't come here to play school, right,

1694
01:19:30,400 --> 01:19:32,679
Speaker 2: So he's gonna he wants to He'll play G league,

1695
01:19:32,720 --> 01:19:34,599
Speaker 2: he'll do whatever, but that's gonna be his path.

1696
01:19:34,640 --> 01:19:36,240
Speaker 3: He wants to be a professional basketball player.

1697
01:19:36,479 --> 01:19:42,439
Speaker 2: So how do you as a team project what he

1698
01:19:42,520 --> 01:19:47,280
Speaker 2: will be. He's really raw, He's got the physical tools

1699
01:19:47,280 --> 01:19:50,439
Speaker 2: that you like, but it's trying to project it he's

1700
01:19:50,439 --> 01:19:53,640
Speaker 2: gonna be at twenty four is so brutal. So like

1701
01:19:53,680 --> 01:19:55,320
Speaker 2: that's when you see like a Marvin Williams, Like the

1702
01:19:55,320 --> 01:19:58,040
Speaker 2: guys you mentioned. Marvin Williams played two years at Carolina.

1703
01:19:58,200 --> 01:20:01,000
Speaker 2: He's six ' ten and you, Oh, well, he's got

1704
01:20:01,160 --> 01:20:03,400
Speaker 2: the skill. He was on the team of Sean May

1705
01:20:03,439 --> 01:20:06,519
Speaker 2: and McCants and those guys like he's there's this physical

1706
01:20:06,560 --> 01:20:08,400
Speaker 2: stuff that he has. We can maybe work on the

1707
01:20:08,400 --> 01:20:10,640
Speaker 2: other stuff. But again, you don't know. And also you

1708
01:20:10,640 --> 01:20:13,280
Speaker 2: don't know what those kids' motivation are you taking so young?

1709
01:20:13,400 --> 01:20:14,880
Speaker 2: You don't know what do you do? What's up here?

1710
01:20:15,000 --> 01:20:16,320
Speaker 3: What drives them?

1711
01:20:16,439 --> 01:20:18,600
Speaker 2: What you know? Look at Jaw, Jaw was.

1712
01:20:20,080 --> 01:20:21,120
Speaker 3: He could be the answer.

1713
01:20:21,200 --> 01:20:23,400
Speaker 2: He would have been the answer to that. I think

1714
01:20:23,400 --> 01:20:25,080
Speaker 2: he is the answer to that if all of this

1715
01:20:25,120 --> 01:20:28,759
Speaker 2: hadn't blown up in his face. Is LaMelo Ball doing anything?

1716
01:20:29,080 --> 01:20:32,160
Speaker 2: He's okay, but he's heard a lot. Yeah, but they're

1717
01:20:32,200 --> 01:20:36,519
Speaker 2: not like Jaw was the one, the one. But it's

1718
01:20:36,560 --> 01:20:38,720
Speaker 2: also the way he plays is how sustainable?

1719
01:20:38,760 --> 01:20:41,080
Speaker 3: Is that? It also feels and maybe I've missed it,

1720
01:20:41,120 --> 01:20:42,519
Speaker 3: but I feel like we would have talked about it

1721
01:20:42,560 --> 01:20:45,080
Speaker 3: on this show. It feels like Adam Silver is constantly

1722
01:20:45,200 --> 01:20:49,240
Speaker 3: dropping hints about how severe he's gonna punish John Morant

1723
01:20:49,240 --> 01:20:50,719
Speaker 3: at some point, but then nothing's happening.

1724
01:20:50,880 --> 01:20:54,520
Speaker 4: Well, so after the finals he has announced the punishment

1725
01:20:54,560 --> 01:20:57,640
Speaker 4: will come down after the NBA. He doesn't want to

1726
01:20:57,680 --> 01:20:58,920
Speaker 4: take away from there.

1727
01:20:58,680 --> 01:21:01,240
Speaker 2: I think unless they're going to say, here's everything else

1728
01:21:01,280 --> 01:21:03,760
Speaker 2: he's done, Like, if it's just what it is, I

1729
01:21:03,800 --> 01:21:05,840
Speaker 2: think he's on a very slippery slope if he goes

1730
01:21:05,840 --> 01:21:09,439
Speaker 2: harsh on him and every reindication is that they that

1731
01:21:09,479 --> 01:21:12,439
Speaker 2: he's going to Yeah, because because the behavior is legal

1732
01:21:12,479 --> 01:21:12,920
Speaker 2: in the state.

1733
01:21:13,080 --> 01:21:16,639
Speaker 4: He came out and said, like, I'm not going off

1734
01:21:16,680 --> 01:21:19,680
Speaker 4: of a legal precedent. This is an NBA league precedent.

1735
01:21:19,920 --> 01:21:21,280
Speaker 4: And how you make the league?

1736
01:21:21,360 --> 01:21:25,840
Speaker 2: Look, there are politicians in this country who do that

1737
01:21:26,120 --> 01:21:29,479
Speaker 2: all the time, flash guns. Are you gonna not let

1738
01:21:29,520 --> 01:21:32,040
Speaker 2: him go to an NBA game? Like, I don't understan.

1739
01:21:32,040 --> 01:21:34,519
Speaker 2: I just don't understand how Christmas cards, right, I just

1740
01:21:34,560 --> 01:21:35,839
Speaker 2: don't understand how that's.

1741
01:21:36,240 --> 01:21:37,680
Speaker 3: I don't know. But that's a whole nother ring.

1742
01:21:37,720 --> 01:21:40,240
Speaker 2: But he was the answer, probably, Yeah, He's.

1743
01:21:40,439 --> 01:21:44,840
Speaker 3: Probably the answer on that. All Right, what do we have, gibbe? Uh,

1744
01:21:44,960 --> 01:21:47,960
Speaker 3: good morning football Club? There you go.

1745
01:21:48,120 --> 01:21:49,960
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1747
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1750
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1751
01:22:10,800 --> 01:22:12,800
Speaker 2: They asked the question, should we be talking more about

1752
01:22:12,840 --> 01:22:13,759
Speaker 2: the Cleveland Browns.

1753
01:22:14,040 --> 01:22:14,719
Speaker 3: Let's have a listen.

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01:22:15,200 --> 01:22:19,960
Speaker 10: So about that segue, time for the lead balls. I'm

1755
01:22:19,960 --> 01:22:21,280
Speaker 10: giving credit to McGarty.

1756
01:22:21,640 --> 01:22:22,320
Speaker 3: Nice segue.

1757
01:22:22,400 --> 01:22:27,120
Speaker 10: Cleveland continued mandatory mini camp yesterday as Deshaun Watson prepares

1758
01:22:27,200 --> 01:22:30,960
Speaker 10: for his first full season on the field for the Browns.

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01:22:33,040 --> 01:22:35,240
Speaker 8: I'm pretty far ahead of where I was last year.

1760
01:22:35,280 --> 01:22:37,360
Speaker 8: Last year it was, you know, as far as football

1761
01:22:37,439 --> 01:22:40,479
Speaker 8: been on the field, just on a new system, trying

1762
01:22:40,479 --> 01:22:43,200
Speaker 8: to adapt to you know, different teammates, different players, how

1763
01:22:43,240 --> 01:22:46,280
Speaker 8: guys run routes, you know, how Kevin calls the place,

1764
01:22:46,760 --> 01:22:48,880
Speaker 8: and just being able to you know, process the game

1765
01:22:49,320 --> 01:22:51,280
Speaker 8: at the speed I know. I'm very excited.

1766
01:22:51,400 --> 01:22:51,559
Speaker 3: You know.

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01:22:51,600 --> 01:22:54,920
Speaker 8: It's just a lot more responsibility for myself. But I

1768
01:22:55,040 --> 01:22:56,960
Speaker 8: like the weight on my shoulders and for me to

1769
01:22:57,000 --> 01:22:59,000
Speaker 8: be able to go out there and you know, show

1770
01:22:59,040 --> 01:23:01,360
Speaker 8: what I what I got and helped me lead this

1771
01:23:01,400 --> 01:23:03,760
Speaker 8: team to a lot of victories. As to that's where

1772
01:23:03,760 --> 01:23:04,360
Speaker 8: I want to get to.

1773
01:23:04,760 --> 01:23:05,280
Speaker 3: I gotta talk.

1774
01:23:05,320 --> 01:23:09,680
Speaker 10: For so far this offseason, we have talk Jets. We

1775
01:23:09,720 --> 01:23:12,320
Speaker 10: have talk Steelers and teams who have missed the playoffs

1776
01:23:12,360 --> 01:23:16,120
Speaker 10: in twenty two but have promising outlooks for this season,

1777
01:23:16,200 --> 01:23:18,160
Speaker 10: guys that are going to rebound, but we haven't really

1778
01:23:18,479 --> 01:23:22,000
Speaker 10: focused on Cleveland. Should we be talking more about the

1779
01:23:22,040 --> 01:23:23,759
Speaker 10: twenty twenty three round.

1780
01:23:24,720 --> 01:23:25,439
Speaker 1: I think we should.

1781
01:23:25,640 --> 01:23:27,559
Speaker 3: It's unusual. Let's get into it.

1782
01:23:28,439 --> 01:23:29,920
Speaker 12: I love the coach, I love what they're doing with

1783
01:23:29,960 --> 01:23:32,559
Speaker 12: the d line. Let's talk about the quarterback Deshaun Watson.

1784
01:23:32,720 --> 01:23:34,360
Speaker 12: The fact of the matter is he came back last

1785
01:23:34,439 --> 01:23:36,960
Speaker 12: year and played six games, and they were mostly against

1786
01:23:37,000 --> 01:23:39,080
Speaker 12: bad teams and weren't very well watched. He didn't play

1787
01:23:39,160 --> 01:23:41,559
Speaker 12: very well, but they went three and three and that's

1788
01:23:41,560 --> 01:23:43,320
Speaker 12: how they ended the season. Instead of bringing up those

1789
01:23:43,360 --> 01:23:45,080
Speaker 12: clips and say look how bad he was, I think

1790
01:23:45,080 --> 01:23:47,160
Speaker 12: it's important at this point on the football field to

1791
01:23:47,240 --> 01:23:51,559
Speaker 12: remember what he was before, before the world changed, before

1792
01:23:51,600 --> 01:23:52,200
Speaker 12: he changed.

1793
01:23:52,520 --> 01:23:53,639
Speaker 3: This is from twenty twenty.

1794
01:23:54,560 --> 01:23:58,639
Speaker 12: He went seven hundred days, seven hundred between playing for the.

1795
01:23:58,560 --> 01:23:59,640
Speaker 1: Texans and playing.

1796
01:23:59,360 --> 01:23:59,880
Speaker 3: For the Browns.

1797
01:24:00,000 --> 01:24:02,720
Speaker 12: Imagine right now, we leave the table today and we

1798
01:24:02,760 --> 01:24:04,960
Speaker 12: don't do another Go Mornay football show till May of

1799
01:24:05,040 --> 01:24:09,640
Speaker 12: twenty twenty five. Peter, it sounds like your dream. That's

1800
01:24:09,680 --> 01:24:12,080
Speaker 12: what Deshaun Watson did seven hundred days.

1801
01:24:12,280 --> 01:24:13,120
Speaker 3: But I want you to look at.

1802
01:24:13,040 --> 01:24:15,920
Speaker 12: These Texans high This is the COVID season, empty stands.

1803
01:24:16,000 --> 01:24:18,960
Speaker 12: It was a terrible, terrible Texans team. They were four

1804
01:24:19,000 --> 01:24:22,240
Speaker 12: and twelve. JJ Watt walks off the field with Deshaun

1805
01:24:22,240 --> 01:24:23,840
Speaker 12: in the last game and tells him, I'm sorry, we

1806
01:24:23,960 --> 01:24:26,439
Speaker 12: wasted one of your years of your prime. You know

1807
01:24:26,479 --> 01:24:29,720
Speaker 12: how good Deshaun Watson was at year was amazing, amazing.

1808
01:24:29,880 --> 01:24:31,559
Speaker 3: You won't believe this. This is a forgotten thing.

1809
01:24:31,840 --> 01:24:34,600
Speaker 12: That year passer rating, you know your efficiency all that

1810
01:24:34,680 --> 01:24:37,160
Speaker 12: number one staff for quarterbacks, Aaron Rodgers was number one

1811
01:24:37,160 --> 01:24:39,240
Speaker 12: in the league. Okay, he won the MVP of that year.

1812
01:24:39,640 --> 01:24:42,360
Speaker 12: Jason mccordy, I'll go back at you. Yeah, thirty one

1813
01:24:42,400 --> 01:24:44,280
Speaker 12: other starters that your full time starters.

1814
01:24:44,600 --> 01:24:45,360
Speaker 3: Rogers was one.

1815
01:24:45,439 --> 01:24:48,040
Speaker 12: Where do you think Deshaun Watson ranked in passer rating

1816
01:24:48,080 --> 01:24:50,920
Speaker 12: on a four and twelveating four and twelve?

1817
01:24:51,000 --> 01:24:53,719
Speaker 13: Yeah, you said he was really good, I'll goal twelve.

1818
01:24:54,160 --> 01:24:54,920
Speaker 3: He was second.

1819
01:24:55,360 --> 01:24:58,920
Speaker 12: Wow, Deshaun Watson passed better than Mahomes that year than

1820
01:24:58,920 --> 01:25:01,920
Speaker 12: Brady that year. He had seven interceptions and flirted with

1821
01:25:02,000 --> 01:25:05,280
Speaker 12: five thousand yards on a four and twelve team. He

1822
01:25:05,439 --> 01:25:09,640
Speaker 12: was absolutely phenomenal, just phenomenal, excellent, excellent, excellent season on

1823
01:25:09,680 --> 01:25:12,120
Speaker 12: a terrible year for the team. So listen, we've chewed

1824
01:25:12,120 --> 01:25:14,320
Speaker 12: on a million times why the Browns went and got him,

1825
01:25:14,320 --> 01:25:16,599
Speaker 12: why they paid him, what all the unsavory factors of it.

1826
01:25:17,000 --> 01:25:18,160
Speaker 3: The Browns were looking at him.

1827
01:25:18,040 --> 01:25:20,400
Speaker 12: Like, God, this guy is good and it's easy to

1828
01:25:20,479 --> 01:25:23,160
Speaker 12: forget with all of the gross stuff and all of

1829
01:25:23,160 --> 01:25:24,840
Speaker 12: the bad football that we saw at the end of year.

1830
01:25:24,880 --> 01:25:27,479
Speaker 12: Last year, Sean Watson was like a top five player

1831
01:25:27,520 --> 01:25:29,439
Speaker 12: in the league that year on one of the worst.

1832
01:25:29,240 --> 01:25:30,000
Speaker 3: Teams in football.

1833
01:25:30,000 --> 01:25:33,800
Speaker 12: He's fantastic and full off season, full time with the Browns, like,

1834
01:25:33,880 --> 01:25:35,040
Speaker 12: he's probably gonna be really good.

1835
01:25:35,040 --> 01:25:38,280
Speaker 14: Peter, I know, and I think people you know, just

1836
01:25:38,280 --> 01:25:40,000
Speaker 14: figured he would just shake the rust off of not

1837
01:25:40,080 --> 01:25:40,840
Speaker 14: playing and like here.

1838
01:25:40,800 --> 01:25:41,639
Speaker 1: To throw him at the mix.

1839
01:25:41,680 --> 01:25:42,200
Speaker 3: It was really hard.

1840
01:25:42,240 --> 01:25:42,800
Speaker 2: I remember talking to.

1841
01:25:42,800 --> 01:25:45,720
Speaker 14: Michael Vick last year about this, after he took so

1842
01:25:45,760 --> 01:25:47,439
Speaker 14: much time away from football on comedy. He's like, it's

1843
01:25:47,479 --> 01:25:50,400
Speaker 14: really hard to adjust and just like get back into it.

1844
01:25:50,400 --> 01:25:51,680
Speaker 2: It's a year process.

1845
01:25:52,360 --> 01:25:55,679
Speaker 14: Now is the time and this team, now is the time.

1846
01:25:55,760 --> 01:25:55,960
Speaker 3: I know.

1847
01:25:56,000 --> 01:25:58,960
Speaker 14: The AFC's loaded and Sarah, you started this off saying, like,

1848
01:25:59,280 --> 01:26:01,280
Speaker 14: talk about the Jazz's talk about this. We talk a

1849
01:26:01,280 --> 01:26:04,000
Speaker 14: lot about the Colts, we talk a lot about the Ravens.

1850
01:26:04,040 --> 01:26:05,599
Speaker 2: Now, these teams made the playoffs last year.

1851
01:26:05,600 --> 01:26:07,680
Speaker 14: It is going to be so hard to make the

1852
01:26:07,720 --> 01:26:10,680
Speaker 14: playoffs this year. And yet the Browns have as good

1853
01:26:10,720 --> 01:26:13,439
Speaker 14: a roster. It's just about anybody outside of Kansas City.

1854
01:26:13,479 --> 01:26:15,800
Speaker 14: You look up and down this roster. Chub might be

1855
01:26:15,800 --> 01:26:18,439
Speaker 14: the best running back in the league. You know, Lamari

1856
01:26:18,520 --> 01:26:21,400
Speaker 14: Cooper is a number one wide receiver. Miles Garrett might

1857
01:26:21,439 --> 01:26:23,960
Speaker 14: be the best defensive lineman in this league. They're loaded,

1858
01:26:24,439 --> 01:26:26,599
Speaker 14: and they added someone this offseason.

1859
01:26:26,720 --> 01:26:28,840
Speaker 1: Jim Schwartz defensive Let's go.

1860
01:26:29,360 --> 01:26:30,439
Speaker 2: It's kind of interesting.

1861
01:26:30,760 --> 01:26:34,719
Speaker 14: Schwartz has this this great term that he talked about

1862
01:26:34,760 --> 01:26:37,320
Speaker 14: for his interior defensive lineman. He's looking for ferraris not

1863
01:26:37,439 --> 01:26:40,240
Speaker 14: dump trucks, and he wants to go and remember when

1864
01:26:40,240 --> 01:26:42,839
Speaker 14: they were in Philadelphia, when they were good then in Detroit,

1865
01:26:43,000 --> 01:26:45,200
Speaker 14: he would have waves of different defensive lineman.

1866
01:26:45,200 --> 01:26:45,720
Speaker 12: They would just come.

1867
01:26:46,080 --> 01:26:49,439
Speaker 14: You look at this defensive lineman. Now Dalvin Tomlinson, obviously

1868
01:26:49,520 --> 01:26:52,320
Speaker 14: you have now Zadarius Smith, that you have Miles Garrett.

1869
01:26:52,560 --> 01:26:53,880
Speaker 2: They have waves and waves of guys.

1870
01:26:53,880 --> 01:26:56,680
Speaker 14: And if I look at Stefanski, hey Coach of the

1871
01:26:56,760 --> 01:26:59,680
Speaker 14: Year a couple of years ago, understandable things got a

1872
01:26:59,720 --> 01:27:00,519
Speaker 14: little weird.

1873
01:27:00,360 --> 01:27:01,280
Speaker 3: The last two years.

1874
01:27:01,439 --> 01:27:05,080
Speaker 14: Obviously, the Watson thing is the giant shadow over all

1875
01:27:05,120 --> 01:27:09,360
Speaker 14: this stuff. But this, to me, I look, as much

1876
01:27:09,360 --> 01:27:11,559
Speaker 14: as we're talking about the Jets and the Ravens and

1877
01:27:11,600 --> 01:27:14,360
Speaker 14: the Steelers of the teams that are gonna go from.

1878
01:27:13,920 --> 01:27:16,639
Speaker 12: Not making the pen, that Browns have no excuse either.

1879
01:27:17,080 --> 01:27:19,439
Speaker 14: They're really good and they have a Coach of the

1880
01:27:19,560 --> 01:27:22,920
Speaker 14: Year as their coach, and they added Jim Schwartz, who

1881
01:27:23,000 --> 01:27:25,519
Speaker 14: is one of the great defensive masterminds of all times,

1882
01:27:25,560 --> 01:27:26,519
Speaker 14: who came back.

1883
01:27:26,439 --> 01:27:28,000
Speaker 1: And said, yeah, I'll do it again.

1884
01:27:28,080 --> 01:27:29,080
Speaker 13: Let's go one more ride.

1885
01:27:29,479 --> 01:27:31,599
Speaker 14: Arnold, maybe we should be talking more about the Browns,

1886
01:27:31,600 --> 01:27:34,479
Speaker 14: but we haven't, and maybe that's just how they want it.

1887
01:27:34,920 --> 01:27:36,840
Speaker 13: The Jim Schwartz is really good to me because you

1888
01:27:36,880 --> 01:27:39,160
Speaker 13: watched Cleveland last year and they had a ton of

1889
01:27:39,200 --> 01:27:40,599
Speaker 13: talent on defense last year.

1890
01:27:40,800 --> 01:27:41,599
Speaker 3: And remember that.

1891
01:27:41,640 --> 01:27:44,120
Speaker 13: Jets game where it just looks like Cleveland's gonna win

1892
01:27:44,160 --> 01:27:45,960
Speaker 13: the game and the defense kind of falls apart giving

1893
01:27:46,040 --> 01:27:48,439
Speaker 13: up big plays. Adding a guy like him can go

1894
01:27:48,479 --> 01:27:50,160
Speaker 13: a long way, so I'm interested to see all that

1895
01:27:50,200 --> 01:27:50,879
Speaker 13: goals based.

1896
01:27:50,800 --> 01:27:53,080
Speaker 3: Kya Up'm sorry he's been thinking about the color thing.

1897
01:27:53,760 --> 01:27:56,160
Speaker 12: Oh wow, I think I have it. I think I

1898
01:27:56,200 --> 01:28:01,080
Speaker 12: have one. Okay, does this count? Yeah Navy maybe? Yeah,

1899
01:28:01,160 --> 01:28:04,320
Speaker 12: the color, but it doesn't have to be navy blue.

1900
01:28:04,439 --> 01:28:07,320
Speaker 3: Is Navy a color? Maybe he's a color. I got too.

1901
01:28:08,800 --> 01:28:11,120
Speaker 12: There's still too that I love doing.

1902
01:28:10,960 --> 01:28:14,080
Speaker 2: A dissertation on Dalas Thomas. Kyle's thinking about the Nava

1903
01:28:14,120 --> 01:28:14,920
Speaker 2: like I love him.

1904
01:28:14,960 --> 01:28:17,240
Speaker 13: Shorts ferraris not dump trucks.

1905
01:28:17,800 --> 01:28:19,719
Speaker 3: Great, I'm going around the count all.

1906
01:28:19,600 --> 01:28:21,800
Speaker 12: The conferences, be like they're out there, out there, out there,

1907
01:28:21,840 --> 01:28:24,559
Speaker 12: and hold on Navy like it's acron a color because

1908
01:28:24,640 --> 01:28:26,760
Speaker 12: Navy is a weird one. It's one of the service academies.

1909
01:28:26,800 --> 01:28:28,720
Speaker 12: That's you know, it's it's like a monopoly. It's like

1910
01:28:28,720 --> 01:28:30,360
Speaker 12: the utilities. You don't think of him as part of

1911
01:28:30,360 --> 01:28:30,679
Speaker 12: the fens.

1912
01:28:30,720 --> 01:28:33,360
Speaker 13: Great, I got and still you nailed your Jashaun watch

1913
01:28:33,439 --> 01:28:34,280
Speaker 13: and take and did.

1914
01:28:34,400 --> 01:28:37,080
Speaker 2: So like he did his homework. Yeah, you have his recess.

1915
01:28:37,160 --> 01:28:39,040
Speaker 12: There's no all the weeds about some coordinator. I'm thinking,

1916
01:28:39,080 --> 01:28:41,360
Speaker 12: like I like to you put up Jim Swartz. I'm

1917
01:28:41,360 --> 01:28:42,679
Speaker 12: a big too, Shorts fan Navy.

1918
01:28:42,800 --> 01:28:45,400
Speaker 13: Yeah, Deshaun Watson great, And I think when you talk

1919
01:28:45,439 --> 01:28:47,640
Speaker 13: about him coming back, segue into that, would you have

1920
01:28:47,640 --> 01:28:48,840
Speaker 13: a color for me to go back to?

1921
01:28:48,960 --> 01:28:51,000
Speaker 10: Actually, I was about to just google a color idea

1922
01:28:51,040 --> 01:28:51,320
Speaker 10: I had.

1923
01:28:51,439 --> 01:28:54,160
Speaker 13: Keep going, keep watching, and I look at him now

1924
01:28:54,240 --> 01:28:56,000
Speaker 13: coming back. You talked about twenty twenty.

1925
01:28:56,000 --> 01:28:57,560
Speaker 3: Oh what I was twenty twenty.

1926
01:28:57,400 --> 01:28:59,640
Speaker 13: But I look at the surrounding cast around him on

1927
01:28:59,760 --> 01:29:02,000
Speaker 13: all and you talked about Amari Cooper.

1928
01:29:02,000 --> 01:29:03,639
Speaker 3: They brought in Elijah More hoping that.

1929
01:29:03,600 --> 01:29:05,760
Speaker 13: He can take off or coming from the Jets on

1930
01:29:05,800 --> 01:29:08,320
Speaker 13: that side. And then also on the offensive line, whether

1931
01:29:08,320 --> 01:29:11,280
Speaker 13: there's Joel Botonio wiat telor two Pro bowlers last year,

1932
01:29:11,479 --> 01:29:14,040
Speaker 13: Jack Conklin was an All Pro with the Tennessee Titans.

1933
01:29:14,320 --> 01:29:16,559
Speaker 13: Nick Chubb is there and to be able to hand

1934
01:29:16,560 --> 01:29:18,720
Speaker 13: the ball off to a running back and let him

1935
01:29:18,800 --> 01:29:22,680
Speaker 13: just do his thing makes things incredibly easy on a quarterback.

1936
01:29:22,800 --> 01:29:24,840
Speaker 13: And so for Deshaun Watson, you come back last year,

1937
01:29:24,840 --> 01:29:26,720
Speaker 13: you knocked the rust off, and now you come back,

1938
01:29:26,760 --> 01:29:29,080
Speaker 13: you have an entire offseason not only to improve your

1939
01:29:29,120 --> 01:29:31,880
Speaker 13: skill set, but now to get to know the guys

1940
01:29:31,920 --> 01:29:32,439
Speaker 13: around you.

1941
01:29:32,520 --> 01:29:34,080
Speaker 3: Think about what this locker.

1942
01:29:33,960 --> 01:29:36,360
Speaker 13: Room had to be like last year, Deshaun Watson joins

1943
01:29:36,400 --> 01:29:38,640
Speaker 13: your team all off season we're talking about we're not

1944
01:29:38,680 --> 01:29:40,840
Speaker 13: talking about the Browns this year right now. In the offseason,

1945
01:29:41,040 --> 01:29:44,160
Speaker 13: all we talked about was the was the Browns last offseason.

1946
01:29:44,200 --> 01:29:46,720
Speaker 13: So for the players, you had Jacoby Brissett, there the

1947
01:29:46,720 --> 01:29:49,760
Speaker 13: awkwardness alright Now Deshaun's back. Well, Jacoby's been leading us

1948
01:29:49,800 --> 01:29:52,400
Speaker 13: the whole time. There's been no question Mars this offseason.

1949
01:29:52,600 --> 01:29:54,960
Speaker 13: Deshaun's the guy. He's improving each and every day.

1950
01:29:55,160 --> 01:29:55,800
Speaker 3: We know him.

1951
01:29:55,840 --> 01:29:58,720
Speaker 13: Now, we're not answering questions about him after every practice.

1952
01:29:58,880 --> 01:30:00,760
Speaker 13: Now we can focus on football. And I think the

1953
01:30:00,800 --> 01:30:03,760
Speaker 13: Browns are a team that once the game start, we're saying, oh,

1954
01:30:03,760 --> 01:30:06,320
Speaker 13: we're not talking about him now, we'll be talking about Incember.

1955
01:30:06,439 --> 01:30:08,240
Speaker 10: I actually think they're in a really good spot here

1956
01:30:08,280 --> 01:30:11,080
Speaker 10: because so much attention goes to the Bengals and that's fine,

1957
01:30:11,160 --> 01:30:14,880
Speaker 10: right and Baltimore and Baltimore, and especially with the Lamar

1958
01:30:14,960 --> 01:30:17,439
Speaker 10: Jackson offseason and then he gets the big contract. You know,

1959
01:30:17,439 --> 01:30:19,840
Speaker 10: we're talking about the Shaun Watson contract a year ago

1960
01:30:20,080 --> 01:30:22,280
Speaker 10: and now we're talking about Lamar Jackson and his contract.

1961
01:30:22,439 --> 01:30:24,320
Speaker 10: I think they're in a great position sort of being

1962
01:30:24,360 --> 01:30:26,920
Speaker 10: the they are the under the radar team. But they

1963
01:30:26,920 --> 01:30:29,360
Speaker 10: had seven wins a year ago, and that was with

1964
01:30:29,680 --> 01:30:33,840
Speaker 10: the controversy chaos, and if you go, they had seven.

1965
01:30:34,400 --> 01:30:36,120
Speaker 12: I had no idea how many games they won last year.

1966
01:30:36,600 --> 01:30:37,679
Speaker 14: Watson only played.

1967
01:30:37,479 --> 01:30:38,040
Speaker 2: The last few.

1968
01:30:38,040 --> 01:30:40,040
Speaker 14: But we think of it as like him, like tripping.

1969
01:30:39,800 --> 01:30:40,240
Speaker 2: All over him.

1970
01:30:40,280 --> 01:30:42,280
Speaker 12: Sign Now, see, so what's the strangest season?

1971
01:30:42,520 --> 01:30:45,960
Speaker 10: Seven wins? Take those seven wins over to another division,

1972
01:30:46,000 --> 01:30:47,719
Speaker 10: the NFC South, and your one game off.

1973
01:30:47,760 --> 01:30:48,439
Speaker 3: Winning the division.

1974
01:30:48,479 --> 01:30:51,200
Speaker 10: I mean, the NFC South sort of skews everything. But

1975
01:30:51,240 --> 01:30:53,200
Speaker 10: I think we're not talking about this wasn't a two

1976
01:30:53,200 --> 01:30:54,880
Speaker 10: win team a year ago. This was a seven win

1977
01:30:54,960 --> 01:30:57,080
Speaker 10: team and to that point, call it was sort of

1978
01:30:57,160 --> 01:30:58,240
Speaker 10: quietly seven wins.

1979
01:30:58,360 --> 01:31:01,000
Speaker 2: Right, We've talked about it many times. It's it's one

1980
01:31:01,040 --> 01:31:03,400
Speaker 2: of those things where it's not going to be until

1981
01:31:03,760 --> 01:31:06,520
Speaker 2: this season that there will be everybody's.

1982
01:31:06,040 --> 01:31:06,519
Speaker 3: Just stayed away.

1983
01:31:06,560 --> 01:31:08,920
Speaker 2: It's fine, stay away, let's fine. See on down the road.

1984
01:31:08,920 --> 01:31:11,920
Speaker 3: We'll see on down the road. And listen, you're gonna

1985
01:31:11,960 --> 01:31:15,720
Speaker 3: get your answers quickly, right away, quickly. This is a

1986
01:31:15,760 --> 01:31:17,120
Speaker 3: good team. Now they got to go out there and

1987
01:31:17,120 --> 01:31:18,880
Speaker 3: they got to do it. They got to prove it.

1988
01:31:18,960 --> 01:31:21,960
Speaker 3: School's out for summer. It's been a great Friday. It

1989
01:31:22,000 --> 01:31:25,000
Speaker 3: has been a fantastic I'll just say that tomorrow. So, uh,

1990
01:31:25,360 --> 01:31:26,440
Speaker 3: we don't work Saturdays.

1991
01:31:26,560 --> 01:31:28,880
Speaker 2: The big ten twenty twenty four schedules coming out, so

1992
01:31:28,960 --> 01:31:32,240
Speaker 2: this is when USC and UCLA come in. I am

1993
01:31:32,320 --> 01:31:37,000
Speaker 2: hearing that in year one, Ohio State will not play USC,

1994
01:31:38,040 --> 01:31:41,760
Speaker 2: and if that is the case, that is the greatest

1995
01:31:42,760 --> 01:31:46,439
Speaker 2: dere election of duties ever. They will be playing one

1996
01:31:47,040 --> 01:31:50,720
Speaker 2: job at all, play those two teams in year one,

1997
01:31:50,760 --> 01:31:53,000
Speaker 2: and from what I'm hearing, they're not going to.

1998
01:31:53,080 --> 01:31:54,720
Speaker 3: They should be playing like Ohio State.

1999
01:31:54,760 --> 01:31:56,479
Speaker 2: From when I'm hearing, Ohio State is going to play

2000
01:31:56,520 --> 01:32:01,200
Speaker 2: at UCLA. Michigan is going to play at USC, but

2001
01:32:01,240 --> 01:32:03,839
Speaker 2: they are not going to play Ohio State against USC.

2002
01:32:03,720 --> 01:32:07,759
Speaker 3: And year one. USC needs to play Michigan and Ohio

2003
01:32:07,760 --> 01:32:10,240
Speaker 3: State of course every year of course, period.

2004
01:32:10,400 --> 01:32:15,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, especially in your one. All right, have a great weekend, everybody.

2005
01:32:16,240 --> 01:32:17,719
Speaker 2: I will see you on Monday.

2006
01:32:18,360 --> 01:32:22,680
Speaker 4: There is a show tomorrow Friday.

2007
01:32:22,760 --> 01:32:24,600
Speaker 2: Trust the smoke at the undisclosed.

2008
01:32:24,640 --> 01:32:27,240
Speaker 4: Look, we're taking plenty of days off over the next

2009
01:32:27,320 --> 01:32:30,599
Speaker 4: few weeks, just asking not me, not you. Yeah, he's

2010
01:32:30,640 --> 01:32:32,720
Speaker 4: off for an entire week. Next week supposed to rain though,

2011
01:32:32,760 --> 01:32:33,280
Speaker 4: so that's.

2012
01:32:33,080 --> 01:32:33,760
Speaker 3: Good, all right.

2013
01:32:34,120 --> 01:32:37,200
Speaker 2: The next level, so that's good. The next level is next.

2014
01:32:38,640 --> 01:32:39,439
Speaker 3: Esp Cleveland.

2015
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2016
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