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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome.

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Speaker 2: That's my favorite murder.

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Speaker 1: That's Georgia Hart the Mini. So that's right, God, damn it,

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Speaker 1: ten years of this, that's right. God, do you want

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Speaker 1: me to go first? Okay? The subject line of this

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Speaker 1: email is my dad was almost John Wayne Gacy's first

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Speaker 1: murder victim.

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Speaker 2: Holy shit.

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Speaker 1: We covered John Wayne Gacy when we did the Chicago

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Speaker 1: Podcast Festival way back in November of twenty sixteen. So

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Speaker 1: do you want to hear that? You can? Hello? All,

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Speaker 1: there was only one way to tell the story, and

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Speaker 1: that's to get straight to the point. By the way,

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Speaker 1: my name is Kristin Murphy. Feel free to use my name.

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Speaker 1: My father told me this vague story of him in

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Speaker 1: the seventies, about his incident with a sketchy hitchhiker, because

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Speaker 1: that's what they did in the seventies. I finally asked

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Speaker 1: him the whole story now that I'm older, and he

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Speaker 1: told me everything. It was such an intense experience for

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Speaker 1: him that he remembers it in grave detail to this day.

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Speaker 1: It was the fall of nineteen seventy two and my

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Speaker 1: dad was eighteen, trying to find a ride to the

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Speaker 1: Cheech and Chong concert.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, that's such a time and place I

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Speaker 2: could smell it.

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Speaker 1: Those guys doing comedy to probably a huge, you know, stoned,

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Speaker 1: a huge stoned audience somewhere I would love to know.

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Speaker 1: Oh way, I'll just finish reading it, mind you. John

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Speaker 1: Wayne Gacy's first murder was in nineteen seventy two. He

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Speaker 1: said it happened September twenty second, nineteen seventy two, on

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Speaker 1: Interstate ninety four. My dad, Jeff, was standing on the

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Speaker 1: guy as being smaller and stockier. The car ride was

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Speaker 1: normal at first, talking about partying and nightlife. The driver

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Speaker 1: I asked my dad if he liked to party at night.

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Speaker 1: My dad didn't fully understand what he meant, but my

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Speaker 1: hippy dad was like, yeah, I like to party.

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Speaker 2: Sure, Yeah, I'm in on start cap okay.

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Speaker 1: The next moment, the man put his hand on my

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Speaker 1: My dad panic knocked his arm off and yelled at

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Speaker 1: him to pull the car over immediately or he would

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Speaker 1: to calm him down and ended up pulling over and

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Speaker 1: letting my dad out of the car. A few years later,

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Speaker 1: when John Wayne Gacy's picture was released on the news,

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Speaker 1: my father knew one hundred percent he was the man

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Speaker 1: who picked him up. Back in the fall of nineteen

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Speaker 1: seventy two, the year Gasey committed his first murder. Jesus

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Speaker 1: SSDGM fuck politeness.

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Speaker 2: Kristin Murphy, Wow, I had been reading a lot about

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Speaker 2: Gasey lately, just because there's been some books that have

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Speaker 2: been written that I like. There's one where the daughter

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Speaker 2: of the girl put the photograph receipt in the pocket

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Speaker 2: of the last victim at the pharmacy they worked at together. Yes,

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Speaker 2: that like led to Gaysey being finally caught victim. Her

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Speaker 2: daughter wrote a book about Gaysey and about that her

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Speaker 2: by Courtney Lund O'Neill. Wow, and it's really incredible.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Anyway, Gasey because I never really knew about gaycy

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Speaker 1: He was kind of one of my entrees in and

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Speaker 2: The Boys Under the House is an incredible book about

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Speaker 2: it as well. Okay, mine's called I'm not going to

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Speaker 2: tell you, it's called Hi Ladies. Longtime listener, first time writer.

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Speaker 2: I just finished listening to Minnieso for sixty two, which

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Speaker 2: I figured it was time to write in. I grew

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Speaker 2: As always, my dad's parting words of wisdom were don't

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Speaker 2: When the police investigated the fire, they found traces of

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Speaker 2: several others on our quiet San Francisco block. One of

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Speaker 2: soon after these incidents, a group of guys had been

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Speaker 2: threatened from prison. Our neighbor hired these guys to attack

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Speaker 2: yet another neighbor had been swatting our house for years,

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Speaker 2: which is prank calling the police on our house. The

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Speaker 2: My parents were able to de escalate the situation, and

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Speaker 1: Thank God, I know.

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Speaker 2: My dad went full Murderino and collected all of the

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Speaker 2: nine one one calls from the neighbor and hired a

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Speaker 2: My parents both struggled to recount the story when I

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Speaker 2: terrifying and infuriating for them. Thank you so much for

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Speaker 2: all you do. You are both inspirations stay sexy and

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Speaker 2: don't burn the house down.

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Speaker 1: God, that's like so violent. And then like it happening

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Speaker 1: there's cops in your house, like horrifying.

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Speaker 2: I know it makes me like, you know that neighbor's

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Speaker 2: dog barking all the time isn't such a bad thing, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it could be so like bad neighbors just ruin your life.

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Speaker 2: Care plugs. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And then I think when we lived because we kind

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, you were the problem neighbor. We were.

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Speaker 2: You've always been the problem neighbor, always at some point

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Speaker 1: I mean, just standard volume alone is not great, but yeah, god, horrible. Okay,

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Speaker 1: subject line of this email is Mafia Banjo. Okay, greetings

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Speaker 1: and hello to Karen Georgia. Exactly right. Media and furry,

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Speaker 1: unpaid interns. I am a professional banjo player who specializes

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Speaker 1: in the four string banjo, which is not the style

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Speaker 1: that everybody is most familiar with. All of my banjos

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Speaker 1: are well over one hundred years old. Some of them

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Speaker 1: have really interesting stories, while the others have stories that

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Speaker 1: have been lost to time. As well as playing the banjo,

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Speaker 1: I also restore and set up banjos for people who

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Speaker 1: want theirs to be like how they were when they

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Speaker 1: older people come to me and share that they inherited

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Speaker 1: their father or grandfather's banjo and would love to hear

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Speaker 1: it play again.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 1: Some of these instruments come with a mix of fascinating stories,

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Speaker 1: sad stories, or no story at all. One of my

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Speaker 1: favorite moments happened about three years ago when a woman

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Speaker 1: reached out to my friend about inheriting a banjo. My

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Speaker 1: friend told me about it and I got in contact

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Speaker 1: and it was an incredibly nice nineteen twenty eight Bacon

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Speaker 1: and Day Silver Bell Nay plus Ultra nine tenor banjo

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Speaker 1: Jesus to those who don't know what that is, it's

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Speaker 1: basically like the rolls Royce of banjo. Wow, fancy engravings,

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Speaker 1: to top it off, an elephant head carving with real

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Speaker 1: Its original cost was nine hundred dollars holy which today.

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Speaker 2: Nineteen twenty nine eight twenty eight nine hundred dollars would

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Speaker 1: But all those gems and things, you know, makes sense

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Speaker 1: to make it even better. It was common to request

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Speaker 1: your name or initials to be engraved onto the banjo

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Speaker 1: when you ordered the instrument. The original owner's name was

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Speaker 1: engraved on the back. Sammy Musmano. One of my favorite

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Speaker 1: things to do is research the original owner of any

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Speaker 1: antique instrument, especially banjo's. I asked the woman if she

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Speaker 1: husband's great uncle and played banjo in various bands and

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Speaker 1: orchestras around the Chicago area. This was a great lead

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Speaker 1: more basic info where when he was born, where he lived,

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Speaker 1: where when he died. He played all over the world

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Speaker 1: on banjo, mandolin, guitar, and even harp. I was itching

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Speaker 1: to know more, so I asked if she could send

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Speaker 1: me more pictures, like what was inside the case and such.

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Speaker 1: Apart from some picks and a couple of small wrenches,

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Speaker 1: there was a picture of Sammy with a man in

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Speaker 1: a long coat, a snappy hat, and a cigar in

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Speaker 1: his mouth. I said, wow, oh, that looks a lot

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Speaker 1: like al.

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Speaker 2: Capone, thinking that, oh my god, it was, Oh my god.

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Speaker 1: Apparently Sammy Musmano had quite the career. He was involved

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Speaker 1: with the Chicago Mafia and played with orchestras hired by

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Speaker 1: al Capone for his parties. Alan Sammy were very good friends.

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Speaker 1: Sammy tadd al Capone how to play the bad This

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Speaker 1: whole thing is just a lie. Yeah, this sounds like

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Speaker 1: just like the best creative writing of all time. I'd

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Speaker 1: take it. Yeah, it's so funny, Okay. Sammy taught al

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Speaker 1: Capone how to play the banjo in his free time

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Speaker 1: until al went to prison. Sammy's brother, Michael Musmano, was

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Speaker 1: early thirties. Al made sure to stay on Sammy's good side.

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Speaker 1: One time, after a gig, a rival gang mugged Sammy

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Speaker 1: and stole his gig money from that night. The woman

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Speaker 2: At that point, our parents accepted that he was just

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Speaker 2: us were upset about the reverse kidnapping situation. I don't

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Speaker 2: I like to think the founder knew it was time

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Speaker 2: for eight years before passing away in twenty twenty, surrounded

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Speaker 2: when fate or determined, rescue brings a dog into your

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Speaker 2: life except the blessing much love, Amanda. I love it

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Speaker 2: Italian greyhound. Like if you ever get a chance to

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Speaker 1: The way they trot around like they're so supernatural, like

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Speaker 1: a little dough.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and they love to be held.

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Speaker 1: They're all like they don't want to walk.

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Speaker 2: Or do anything. They want to wear sweaters, Like what

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Speaker 2: more do you want out of a pet?

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Speaker 1: It is so genius of a dog wress you'd be like,

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Speaker 1: oh yeah, it's almost over real quick.

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Speaker 2: Hey we know you have a dog right now. Can

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Speaker 2: you just keep an eye like as if anyone'd ever like,

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Speaker 2: let a dog go I know for six months? Nice move, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: all right, send us any story you want.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you guys are doing great.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you for listening, and stay sexy and don't

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Speaker 2: get murdered. Goodbye, Elvis, Do you want a cookie?

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Speaker 1: This has been an exactly right production.

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Speaker 2: Our senior producer is Molly Smith and our associate producer

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Speaker 2: is Tessa Hughes.

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Speaker 1: Our editor is Aristotle Ascevedo.

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Speaker 2: This episode was mixed by Leona Squalacci.

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