Speaker 1: Look mare, Oh, I see you my own look over
Speaker 1: there is that culture. Yes, goodness, wow, lost culture ding
Speaker 1: dong last Culturista's calling. This actually is another in the
Speaker 1: series of recording at homes.
Speaker 2: Recording at homes. Wonder what that's about. It's cozy, it's fall, happy,
Speaker 2: Scorpio season, my sister.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, we're in Bowen's house and at scorpio season.
Speaker 1: You kind of have the floor. What do you want
Speaker 1: to say?
Speaker 2: I say, everyone dress in all dark colors. Everyone shoplift
Speaker 2: a little yes, fuck your boss.
Speaker 1: Just kidding. Don't do any of those things, especially not
Speaker 1: wear dark clothes. Let's break that, break the pattern pattern.
Speaker 1: I am loving dressing for the fall.
Speaker 2: I have not heard you so clearly state your not
Speaker 2: only distaste for summer, but love of the colder season.
Speaker 1: It has been the highlight of my year being here
Speaker 1: in New York City. Now, like the October flesh and
Speaker 1: the flannel cure. November sorry, fuck well, I'm sure November
Speaker 1: will be grade too. Untilor was right about that one.
Speaker 1: When I got here, Bowen was playing Cruel Summer, contributing
Speaker 1: to the number one hit.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't have to contribute anymore. I'm doing
Speaker 2: it for my own enjoyment period.
Speaker 1: I mean, congrats to her, by the way, ten number ones,
Speaker 1: and later we will rank all ten number ones. Look
Speaker 1: forward to that one later.
Speaker 2: Brother, let's talk about my sister's huge, huge ALP musical release.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say album released, but not yet album incoming.
Speaker 2: I mean, let's talk about it. I have a song
Speaker 2: with Muna that is so sligh. You know, they say
Speaker 2: I can die now. I genuinely if I if I
Speaker 2: were to be hit by let's say of us, at
Speaker 2: least let's just say of us, I at least would
Speaker 2: have probably in my you know, what do they call
Speaker 2: the post mortem when they write about you and the obituary? Girl,
Speaker 2: obituary or do you mean like the autopsy?
Speaker 1: Okay, well, if they cut open my body and could
Speaker 1: see my heart, it would be a flow gratitude. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but in my obituary it probably would read he had
Speaker 1: a song with Muna and then I I could die now,
Speaker 1: because I know it will say.
Speaker 2: In the first sentence. Yeah, period, he had a song
Speaker 2: with Muna. Matt Rogers, age thirty three, was struck by
Speaker 2: an energy efficient city bus.
Speaker 1: At least that at least at least you helped. I mean,
Speaker 1: at least I know that while the energy that was
Speaker 1: being used to run me over, Yeah, at least it
Speaker 1: was clean. At least it's not going to be a
Speaker 1: harmful I don't think you should even joke about this,
Speaker 1: because you would be distraught if I were to get
Speaker 1: hit by a bus out there.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, No, I can't even think about this.
Speaker 2: I would be so sad. At least it would be
Speaker 2: durting the fall, knowe, No, no, yeah, you're right, we
Speaker 2: can't know. I mean reader Katie's publics as finalists. I'm
Speaker 2: genuinely so immediately sad now that I'm thinking about this.
Speaker 2: By the way, I am not feeling my best. And
Speaker 2: the one has what we think is an ear infection.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I've come to his home and he's wearing
Speaker 1: all sweats and the lights were damn. He was eating
Speaker 1: what was it you were having Kung shu fu ramen?
Speaker 2: There we go to the famous Chinese ramen that is
Speaker 2: I think better than some of the Korean and Japanese stuff.
Speaker 1: Sorry, looks like you meant to start with that statement.
Speaker 1: But things were feeling cozy in here, like a sick
Speaker 1: boy was living here. So I've come over and I
Speaker 1: of course smoked a little weed and then handed him
Speaker 1: the joint and then I smoked at myself. So that's
Speaker 1: how we sisters do. We get each other sick. And
Speaker 1: you did give me COVID recently, I did, And by
Speaker 1: you gave me COVID, I mean I got COVID directly
Speaker 1: after you. It could have been the other way around.
Speaker 1: So it was would you rather have been from someone else? No,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get covid. I wanted. I want at least
Speaker 1: contracted from you. But you were doing that thing of apologizing,
Speaker 1: and I was like, no one should ever apologize at
Speaker 1: this point, It's out there.
Speaker 2: I apologizing that I was around you guys that you
Speaker 2: knew I didn't know.
Speaker 1: You knew well. You tested positive. Look to the stick
Speaker 1: and you looked devilishly in the mirror at your reflection
Speaker 1: and said coming to me and Sudie. And you walked
Speaker 1: in and said, give me a hugs, sister, smiling all
Speaker 1: the way. As I contracted the virus, the curl virus
Speaker 1: nineteen nineteen.
Speaker 2: You got to do a song with your favorite band.
Speaker 2: Is that a true statement?
Speaker 1: It is? Do you know what I was so nervous
Speaker 1: and scared to call them up, and Brett was like, Oh,
Speaker 1: we should FaceTime her right now. We should FaceTime Katie
Speaker 1: right now. And I was just like I had been
Speaker 1: through like four drafts of like a notesapp thing to
Speaker 1: like send them, and I was like, we can't just
Speaker 1: call and he was like, you know we can. We're
Speaker 1: gonna do it right now, huh. And I was like okay,
Speaker 1: because he's one of those people that's like such a
Speaker 1: we're gonna do it self starter, right And I'm the
Speaker 1: kind of person I don't know how you feel, but
Speaker 1: I'll put her around anxiously before I do anything. Between
Speaker 1: you and Brett.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you guys are a great team because you get
Speaker 2: to pull the other in a direction of your choice.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Brett is Leland, by the way, who produced and
Speaker 1: co wrote the track with me, and we called she
Speaker 1: said yes immediately, and then she sent over the track
Speaker 1: like pretty much the next day, and we heard her
Speaker 1: voice on it and literally just collapsed in each other's arms.
Speaker 1: I was like, because this is his second Moon of
Speaker 1: feature and it was obviously my first, and I was
Speaker 1: just like, oh my god, it just made the song
Speaker 1: so much better. I'm so happy, and then she was
Speaker 1: in the video.
Speaker 2: Comedy performance Kick she should act the direct like it
Speaker 2: was Chris miss right right, she killed it. She killed it,
Speaker 2: but just that move on here, yeah.
Speaker 1: Giving pop star the whole time. It was so good
Speaker 1: and I loved the discussion and the lead up about
Speaker 1: what she would wear. And she she texted me and
Speaker 1: she goes, should I just be like a slutty pop
Speaker 1: girly version of you? I was like, yeah, yeah, you should,
Speaker 1: that's exactly you should shop and she did. She looks unbelievable,
Speaker 1: was so funny. She should act and made the whole
Speaker 1: thing better and Jared Frieder crushed it. We co directed it.
Speaker 1: Now talk about this part. How'd it feel to be
Speaker 1: in the director's chair? We Love We Love because I
Speaker 1: wrote up the treatment. So basically my two favorite music
Speaker 1: videos of all time are Gwen Stefani Cool, which we've
Speaker 1: talked about. I'd nause him on this podcast, definitely inspired
Speaker 1: the video, and then also Moon five She Will Be
Speaker 1: Love with Iconic Star turn by Kelly Preston. Yes, it's
Speaker 1: like narrative in the way that I didn't know I
Speaker 1: could do by myself. So brought Jared in and he
Speaker 1: just like crushes. He's so good at what he does.
Speaker 1: Jared frieda direct that.
Speaker 2: Direct that previous guest on the podcast.
Speaker 1: If you're not familiar, He's eatened to come over again tonight.
Speaker 1: He threatened to I can't have guests, no, only me,
Speaker 1: so sorry. He did the Jared thing, which was I
Speaker 1: was like, I'm going over to Bones to record the episode.
Speaker 1: He goes, okay, I'll come. Uh huh. I was like okay,
Speaker 1: and then he was like he looked at me, like really,
Speaker 1: and I was like, no, but he can come another time.
Speaker 1: I would have loved to have had him if I
Speaker 1: wasn't ill. Do you know what I mean? Yes, it's
Speaker 1: actually very sort of I'm not gonna say chic, but
Speaker 1: it's apt of you to be sick now in the
Speaker 1: fall time, because this is when this is when it
Speaker 1: goes around. Girl. Look at you getting your liquids. He's
Speaker 1: absolutely sucking down water.
Speaker 2: By the way, are you on these Stanley cups?
Speaker 1: Babe? I'm a Stanley girl. I've earned money from Stanley.
Speaker 1: They took me to Sundance. Really, girl, I speak for Stanley.
Speaker 1: I have a partner. I had no idea girl, get
Speaker 1: in on this with me. Are you obsessed. First of all,
Speaker 1: they set me their sixty four ounce cup that is
Speaker 1: all the water you need in a day. And I'm
Speaker 1: looking over there and there is clearly whatever is in
Speaker 1: that huge canister is all you would need in today
Speaker 1: is all I would need a day. And you want
Speaker 1: to know something, I drink more period because you get
Speaker 1: excited to drink it because you what feel like a
Speaker 1: Stanley girl? Can I tell you what I wanted to
Speaker 1: say when you and Sudy were talking about the but
Speaker 1: and I love that for you who had those huge,
Speaker 1: huge bottles, the sixty four rounds bottles that had like
Speaker 1: the markers and the little like stupid little pep talks
Speaker 1: on the side. What what were you wanted to say
Speaker 1: to us celest.
Speaker 2: Sarah and I got them at the office. Yes, tried
Speaker 2: it for a week. We were both like, this isn't fun.
Speaker 1: Oh why because it's like it feels like a chore.
Speaker 2: It feels like a chore aesthetically those bottles are discussed
Speaker 2: to know, no, and like I don't need to be
Speaker 2: like patronized, infantilized by this fucking water bottle with its words.
Speaker 1: And then when this came mm hmm, I thought Wow, yeah,
Speaker 1: like this is I'm sorry. I'm all about the style,
Speaker 1: and this has the style. It will never go out
Speaker 1: of style. It's classic, it's clean. I know you love
Speaker 1: that logo. It's a gorgeous logo and I bear with
Speaker 1: the wings. It's exciting to see you so immediately taken
Speaker 1: by an enthusiastic about a logo on a fond because
Speaker 1: that's how I know the product is top notched, because you,
Speaker 1: my sister, have a discerning eye when it comes to that.
Speaker 1: I just want kind of can you head it to me?
Speaker 1: Can I just look at it and hold it?
Speaker 2: Stanley not not sponsored by the way.
Speaker 1: Unpaid, unpaid. Look at that Gorgia. Hear her saying, this
Speaker 1: is sounds of Staley. Oh, this sounds of Stalica. Oh
Speaker 1: more to come later. That one is gonna become a
Speaker 1: full bop. Wait what it calls? What this song? Which song?
Speaker 1: My song? This is the sound of the song. This
Speaker 1: is the sound of the Staley cup. I think we're
Speaker 1: gonna find it.
Speaker 2: My god, I think you have like a Paul Diamond
Speaker 2: Graceland ESK album.
Speaker 1: And you you are too kind to me. What are
Speaker 1: you gonna do next? Handy twenty thousand dollars or just mine.
Speaker 1: This one is too good to me. I literally, I
Speaker 1: am so happy to see you enjoying the stand life.
Speaker 1: It makes me so It looks so pathetic and sick
Speaker 1: right now. You don't look like you could take on
Speaker 1: the world, but I'm here with you. Describe my posture.
Speaker 1: I'm like, shoulders, you look like someone in a rom
Speaker 1: com who gets broken up with you. Look like Diane
Speaker 1: Lane In like before she starts to like take her
Speaker 1: own life by the balls. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Like it's giving Gracie heart Not yet, Gracie Lufrey Bush right,
Speaker 1: Oh wow?
Speaker 2: Not in like I look like I look like a
Speaker 2: fucking butch FBI agent in the form of Sandra Bulla.
Speaker 1: You really do, Honestly, this is giving I'm off due
Speaker 1: to FBI.
Speaker 2: You know what I always loved Miss Congeniality is that
Speaker 2: scene that you see her go home, like in the beginning,
Speaker 2: in the first time, where you see her go home.
Speaker 1: To a shithole, to a shithole.
Speaker 2: She takes out a TV dinner, pokes holes in it
Speaker 2: with her fork, puts in the microwave, punches a little
Speaker 2: punching bag, and sleeps in her shitty disgustings.
Speaker 1: And her hair is like massy.
Speaker 2: I say, filming I'm getting home scenes must be very difficult.
Speaker 2: I have not had to do that, girl.
Speaker 1: I think it would be easy, because you know, all
Speaker 1: you have to do is channel how tired you are.
Speaker 2: But I think it's so hard to like fake familiarity.
Speaker 2: And this is just what I'm thinking, Like it's like, Okay,
Speaker 2: I need to spend at least four days on this
Speaker 2: apartment set, yeah, before we roll, because I need to.
Speaker 2: I need to make this feel like.
Speaker 1: You need to marry in the atmosphere. You're actually making
Speaker 1: an incredible point about that scene. And I know she
Speaker 1: is and I had never really thought of this before,
Speaker 1: but she is not discovering at all. She is totally
Speaker 1: at home. There is no doubt that that shit box
Speaker 1: is her apartment. She is at home there. This is
Speaker 1: why Sandra Bullock is being given the award that she's
Speaker 1: being given today by us, which is Sandra Bullock, you
Speaker 1: are the Actress of the Millennium.
Speaker 2: You will be awarding and honoring you at next year's
Speaker 2: Last Cultures Culture Awards.
Speaker 1: Be there, Sandra, you are the Actress of the Millennium.
Speaker 1: And this is a developing story.
Speaker 2: The way that woman carries herself. Oh yeah, what an
Speaker 2: honor to be alive at the same time she is.
Speaker 1: Babe. Let me tell you something. One word that doesn't
Speaker 1: get said enough in this context. Gravity Gravity. We talked
Speaker 1: about gravity all the time. Things might be falling down,
Speaker 1: things might be falling down all around us. But I
Speaker 1: want to hear the word gravity use more in context
Speaker 1: with this film. Yes, it should be the number one
Speaker 1: thing when you search gravity in Wikipedia. Should be this
Speaker 1: film and her performance, not what happens when you drop
Speaker 1: something from the air.
Speaker 2: I want the tiktoks to be not about you know,
Speaker 2: it's not like a video of some woman and then
Speaker 2: it says gravity. Be like, yeah, woman goes, that's right,
Speaker 2: put down for real, for real, real, for real if
Speaker 2: you know you now. But I think that's one of
Speaker 2: the funniest memes ever.
Speaker 1: Men, not us being on this podcast being like, you
Speaker 1: know what we're gonna talk about and spend energy on
Speaker 1: memes and the Stanley Girl. I did not expect this
Speaker 1: going on. Katies are eating this week. I have I
Speaker 1: have an earth shattering and I don't think so, honey,
Speaker 1: you do, yes, stay tuned to think that is still
Speaker 1: to come, and we're gonna rank the tailor swift number
Speaker 1: one hits. Wow.
Speaker 2: You literally don't know what's coming for you, all of you.
Speaker 2: I'm looking at my sister. You don't know what's coming.
Speaker 1: It's like Sweeps. It's like November Sweep and it's like
Speaker 1: the trailers leading up to like a big moment. You
Speaker 1: will never be the same.
Speaker 2: I will I miss sweeps and sweeps culture. We wouldn't
Speaker 2: have gone code black.
Speaker 1: If a word for sweeps, there would not be any
Speaker 1: of the most memorable episodes of any of these shows
Speaker 1: had it not been for Sweeps. And that is sweeps culture.
Speaker 1: Sweeps culture was TV culture, and that's rule of culture
Speaker 1: Umber six. Sweeps culture was TV culture. I think.
Speaker 2: I said this recently and it's staying with me. And
Speaker 2: I hate to talk about work, but like you know,
Speaker 2: I was doing like final interviews for Dix and then
Speaker 2: like people were asking me, like, oh my god, what
Speaker 2: was Travis and Taylor like when they came Yesta No,
Speaker 2: And my answer was like, you know what, it reminds
Speaker 2: me that like live TV, lets you do things like that, Yeah,
Speaker 2: and like really surprise people and like and I said,
Speaker 2: quite literally, streaming could.
Speaker 1: Never Yeah, you know what I mean, literally could never work.
Speaker 2: So is it so crazy? I don't even watch Love
Speaker 2: Is Blind anymore. But the fact that they couldn't get
Speaker 2: that Live finale right, that Ritian right is so embarrassing.
Speaker 2: I know it's been like a couple of years at
Speaker 2: this point, or like a year and a half. That
Speaker 2: is a huge embarrassment for Netflix. Oh yeah, anyway, not
Speaker 2: to be.
Speaker 1: No, I mean, like I think, and also not for nothing,
Speaker 1: but you know what would have been a huge moment
Speaker 1: if we had sweeps culture even like event dies television
Speaker 1: culture anymore. The Aiden thing on and just like that
Speaker 1: wouldn't have been really, the Samantha thing, this thing wouldn't
Speaker 1: have been really And then those would have been moments
Speaker 1: and we can never get those. No, it's sad, It's
Speaker 1: really sad.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, we're genuinely like, if I think too hard
Speaker 2: about it, I'm like, I cry why hard?
Speaker 1: First of all, can I say you literally, also, you
Speaker 1: took a fall, You took a tumble, bo went hurt
Speaker 1: his shoulder, and the circumstances, the circumstances are not necessarily important,
Speaker 1: but he took a fall. I took a fall at work.
Speaker 1: Let's just say that.
Speaker 2: Let's just say there was a sketch where there's pandemonium
Speaker 2: going on in the background and I was told to
Speaker 2: run away and check Molly Carney in the shoulder, and
Speaker 2: guess what happened. I spun into a fall.
Speaker 1: You ever hear that done into a fall? Like I
Speaker 1: was a damn fucking pinwheel? You know what? Though, at
Speaker 1: least like if it had gone really wrong, yeah, I
Speaker 1: could have gone much worse. The headline would have been
Speaker 1: Bowen Yang spills into fall in your cell face all
Speaker 1: for SNL sketch, mostly background role. I don't mind that. No,
Speaker 1: I know there are no small parts. There are no
Speaker 1: small parts. You say that every single day you call
Speaker 1: me like, and you somehow work into every every conversation
Speaker 1: we have, every single one. You say you know there's
Speaker 1: no small part. I don't know. It applies to a
Speaker 1: lot I I do incorporate into every conversation we have. Listen,
Speaker 1: was there anything you want to say on this podcast
Speaker 1: about the after party and the experience of being around
Speaker 1: Lady Gaga? Because we said it in our ninety two
Speaker 1: Street and why but we do not say here? Do
Speaker 1: you want to tell the readers about something that happened
Speaker 1: momentous in your life.
Speaker 2: It was a momentous. I haven't even really processed it.
Speaker 2: We even talked about this exact scenario a few episodes ago. Yes,
Speaker 2: this is me meeting the person that I cannot imagine
Speaker 2: meeting because I don't know how I would behave meeting.
Speaker 2: And interestingly, right now I know. So we're at the
Speaker 2: meeting between Dress and Air. We're on the studio floor.
Speaker 2: It's like two three hundred people who work there, all
Speaker 2: listening to Lauren talk about the sketches that are making
Speaker 2: it to air. Mine got cut, no problem. I was
Speaker 2: totally fine with it. Actually, I was like, you know what,
Speaker 2: I don't need to have a little thing in this.
Speaker 2: This is such a strong show for other people. It's
Speaker 2: an amazing show overall. Anyway, lor goes and Lady Gaga
Speaker 2: will be introducing the first song, and then I screamed,
Speaker 2: in my baggiest moment in my entire time working there.
Speaker 1: Lady Gaga. Everyone gassed, giggled, screamed.
Speaker 2: Lurne was like, well, she's not the Lady Gaga, She's
Speaker 2: Lady Gaga.
Speaker 1: Was like, I think he was just trying to you
Speaker 1: know what.
Speaker 2: Lauren loves to be a little little zinger.
Speaker 1: He was like, she's not do Larry to Gars. Larry
Speaker 1: Gar like basically say, I'm like, yeah, she's a normal girl.
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 2: I think he was trying to like he was telling me, like,
Speaker 2: you're saying, Bowen, calm down, up, he's Meryl streetened out.
Speaker 1: He was saying, he's streeting. Sorry, go ahead, No, that's
Speaker 1: and then later later I have doubts, no girl later
Speaker 1: in the night when you met the girl, I thought
Speaker 1: he was saying, later later in the movie, what else
Speaker 1: was another line and say the rest of us, friend
Speaker 1: have to set doubts. Later she comes out, she introduces
Speaker 1: bad buddy.
Speaker 2: She said, wait, are never yorco The reason why she
Speaker 2: did that is very clever and I can't really get
Speaker 2: into it. Yeah, but the reason she did that is genius.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Anyway, we go to the after party. Matt and I
Speaker 2: actually saw Titanice once with Bobby Campbell, her amazing, incredible manager,
Speaker 2: he's so lovely, and his partner Robert, and then Bobby
Speaker 2: grabs me.
Speaker 1: Well, actually Bobby did not grab me. Was Robert who
Speaker 1: grabs me. Robert's like, you have to meet Stephanie. I said,
Speaker 1: oh no, I literally was like, no, no response, No
Speaker 1: true your response.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh no, that's okay. I really can't.
Speaker 2: I wasn't even gawking at her, like she was sitting
Speaker 2: in my eyeline, like from my table. I was like,
Speaker 2: I can't look at her. I can't like I can
Speaker 2: acknowledge that she's here. I just this is really overwhelming.
Speaker 2: But then Robert dragged me over in the nicest ways.
Speaker 1: I will, but then.
Speaker 2: I feel like I feel that feeling she was deep
Speaker 2: in conversation with someone else, and then she says hello.
Speaker 2: She says it's so nice to meet you, and she
Speaker 2: says you're so funny. I think she just like knew
Speaker 2: me as a cast member, but.
Speaker 1: Yeah, didn't really. She doesn't know that you stand, so.
Speaker 2: She doesn't know that I stand. So I don't think
Speaker 2: she has ever clocked me being on the show other
Speaker 2: than that night. She had no idea what I was about.
Speaker 2: In terms of her, Well.
Speaker 1: She lives on Chromatica and she's been she's been Harley
Speaker 1: Quinn for about a year and a half, so she's
Speaker 1: been Lee Lee, Sorry Lee. And I immediately launched to
Speaker 1: the story that I told earlier about Lourene and I said,
Speaker 1: oh my god, Gaga, my faggiest moment in my time
Speaker 1: working here, my six years working here, five years whatever.
Speaker 1: Basically told her that story, and I screamed to her
Speaker 1: face in a crowded restaurant, and I screamed, Lady Gotta.
Speaker 2: She kind of like gasped a little and then like
Speaker 2: kind of like looked around the restaurant in a way
Speaker 2: that like wasn't she was being polite, she wasn't making
Speaker 2: it so conspicuous, but like I definitely felt self conscious,
Speaker 2: Like I was like, oh no, she giggled through it,
Speaker 2: was nervously laughing through it. But I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: I've actually made her uncomfortable.
Speaker 1: You know what? Can I say? Yeah, that is good.
Speaker 1: You made Lady Gaga uncomfortable. This woman turned into other people. Okay,
Speaker 1: she is Lady Gogga who came down like a spider
Speaker 1: into the super Bowl. She is Lady Gaga, Patrizia Tria,
Speaker 1: and she was shook by something that you did. Girl,
Speaker 1: the way you are one of the most legendary icons.
Speaker 1: You shook Gaga, shook Gaga. That's true. I didn't think
Speaker 1: of it that way. The title of that Gaga Shook.
Speaker 2: Goga Shook I was Gaga shook in that moment, Gaga shook.
Speaker 1: I think it should be you shook Gaga. You shook Gaga.
Speaker 2: I didn't physically shake. I did not touch her besides
Speaker 2: like a hug, and that was it. Yeah, that's good
Speaker 2: that you made that clear. Well, so I guess the
Speaker 2: first moment was technically good nights when I hugged her
Speaker 2: and that.
Speaker 1: Oh so that was literally the first moment you hugged her?
Speaker 1: And then what were you thinking? What was happening?
Speaker 2: I was like that experience that what just happened is
Speaker 2: on a lightning fast conveyor belt.
Speaker 1: Let it go, don't grab it, don't think about it. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: I don't think that counts. No.
Speaker 2: So then at the after party I sit next to
Speaker 2: her at our table for like fifteen minutes this she's
Speaker 2: literally fully turned the other way, like talking to someone else.
Speaker 1: But I was talking to.
Speaker 2: Bobby and Roberts, and gosh, that was it. I was like, there,
Speaker 2: I apologized her. I was like, I fully embarrassed her earlier.
Speaker 2: She's like, no, you didn't, So I was like, oh, youkees,
Speaker 2: that could have gone better.
Speaker 1: Listen, the rest is still unwritten. I think it's actually
Speaker 1: one of the most beautiful lines in a song. I
Speaker 1: think that there is a great future, and I think
Speaker 1: that what you have done is you've both shaken and
Speaker 1: you've shaken her, but humanized yourself. And it's because you
Speaker 1: showed up honestly that night. Yes, my sister only shows
Speaker 1: up as herself. She deserves zaccolades. That would never happen
Speaker 1: with anyone else in the world. Do you know? We
Speaker 1: were supposed to be there, and Dave was kicking himself,
Speaker 1: but we did have a fun time because his two
Speaker 1: favorite artists are in fact Bad Bunny and Lady Kaka.
Speaker 1: We were out of Long Island, were a fall Dad.
Speaker 1: Guys had a gorgeous fall day. We went to go
Speaker 1: see my parents. We we lost the family dog, Bailey,
Speaker 1: so that was a rough one for Richie and Trina
Speaker 1: and you know, put the lighters in the air for Bailey,
Speaker 1: who was fourteen and a half. She was a queen.
Speaker 1: She was a queen and a legend. But reaching out
Speaker 1: to anyone out there that goes through like the loss
Speaker 1: of a pet, because it is tough. But we went
Speaker 1: out to see them. I took house Jared, Dave and
Speaker 1: Dave and we went out and we had Pumpkin Beers
Speaker 1: girl and you know I crave him. And then we
Speaker 1: went to a hunted escape room them to the film
Speaker 1: it on Long Island. Did you go into the damn sewer? Honey?
Speaker 1: What happened was we basically wore up in the sewer,
Speaker 1: and up in the sewer, little boy's jacket, his yellow
Speaker 1: jacket was there, covered in blood. It was a hard
Speaker 1: escape room and there was a live actor no as
Speaker 1: penny Wise, No no, so as if that wasn't enough terror.
Speaker 1: And yes we did get out with I think seven man.
Speaker 1: It's the spare we got out penny Wise. Yeah, yeah, hon,
Speaker 1: they were han, I'm not getting solving no puzzle when
Speaker 1: penny Wise is a foot away from me, one of
Speaker 1: film's scariest monsters and a front runner for that category
Speaker 1: next year at the last Culture Races Culture Awards, because
Speaker 1: penny Wise has been under rewarded at that ceremony and
Speaker 1: it's time that we take accountability.
Speaker 2: Year three were breaking the terrible standards we've set for ourselves.
Speaker 2: In years one and two.
Speaker 1: The standards from before are no longer. The standards. The
Speaker 1: lost Culture is to Culture Awards are a dusty, stodgy institution,
Speaker 1: used up, used up. We know it's rigged. It's time
Speaker 1: we change it. I have a feeling that if a
Speaker 1: celebrity says they're going to be on the show, they win.
Speaker 1: What do you mean I think it's fixed. I think
Speaker 1: that Matt and Bowen fix it. I think that they
Speaker 1: wait to see if a celebrities like I think that.
Speaker 1: Do you think that they would have give Ariana Matter
Speaker 1: the Coolest Girl Award if Ariana Grande had said that
Speaker 1: she would show up, what would they have done? Then
Speaker 1: that's hard fake. That's both of them. I hate them,
Speaker 1: Matton Bowen, I hate them. They're so annoying faggots. They're
Speaker 1: such friends. Where did we drift from? Oh? The Fall Day?
Speaker 1: So then after the Escape Room we went to in Hoppog,
Speaker 1: Long Island, New York. It was rated thirty ninth out
Speaker 1: of all haunted attractions in the country, number one in
Speaker 1: New York. The Chambers of Hell, Girl, the Chambers of Hell?
Speaker 1: Who did you see?
Speaker 3: Girl?
Speaker 1: Beelzebub basically her and a lot of her friends that
Speaker 1: are no fun to be around. Sweetie the Incubi, the
Speaker 1: Sucuby for everyone saying that I was skipping right to
Speaker 1: Christmas I want you to know I went to the
Speaker 1: Chambers of Hell for you so that I wouldn't skip Sorry,
Speaker 1: but y'all's favorite holiday. I went into the Chambers of Hell.
Speaker 1: I'm not even kidding you. I've never experienced a walk
Speaker 1: through haunted house like this. There was a point oh no,
Speaker 1: where we had to get on our hands and knees
Speaker 1: and crawl under shit. Then I had to climb up
Speaker 1: in like literally this it's like crawl spaces. The actors
Speaker 1: are dressed down, they're jumping, they're screaming, they're carrying on,
Speaker 1: playing for team too much, chasing it's hell, girl. It
Speaker 1: was the Chambers of Hell, and there were three of them.
Speaker 1: This was a forty minute experience what we were so shook.
Speaker 1: I swear to god, you were having a heart attack throughout. Kudos.
Speaker 1: Can I bang the standing lay to them? Let's just
Speaker 1: play the Stanley song for all the girls in the
Speaker 1: Chambers of El and Hotbog. We were so shook we
Speaker 1: had to eat. We went to Patricia's on Long Island.
Speaker 1: It's an Italian restaurant where it's a party all like
Speaker 1: a damn party. I swear to god. They were serving
Speaker 1: towers espress on martinis with sparklers on the top, and
Speaker 1: I said team too much. It was World champions. Yeah,
Speaker 1: watch out, Well I can think Whitney is more team
Speaker 1: too much this season. Oh yeah, Whitney's. But anyways, so
Speaker 1: then we eat this vicious Italian meal, get them the
Speaker 1: Long Island Railroad. We are full of cheese. I wake
Speaker 1: up in the morning and at that point I was
Speaker 1: not making it to snl. I wasn't taking my full
Speaker 1: of cheese body to go like, you know, wink at
Speaker 1: bad Bunny from across the room. Right, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Totally, But we wish we could have been
Speaker 1: there with you, beloved.
Speaker 2: It would have been such a fun shared moment. But
Speaker 2: it was a nice night.
Speaker 1: And we missed John on the island to slurping back
Speaker 1: pumpkin beers. Oh I wish I was.
Speaker 2: I have not See The thing about this job is
Speaker 2: I have not had a nice proper fall get away
Speaker 2: in so long.
Speaker 1: I know that. Remember that year we went to Tarry
Speaker 1: Oh my god, of course that was revolutionary. And I
Speaker 1: mean we did the sleepy holl of Haunted House. That
Speaker 1: was so much fun. That was a little too Here's
Speaker 1: what I loved about this hunted house. That one was
Speaker 1: really crowded, and the crowd it was like you could
Speaker 1: barely move the records. It got backed up. This one
Speaker 1: they were doing like crowd control wo so that you
Speaker 1: were really in every room by yourself with your party.
Speaker 1: And I was like, give it up for production.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I get producing literally is thinking about the experience.
Speaker 1: MetLife Stadium should talk to them about moving people through
Speaker 1: a space.
Speaker 2: There is no hope there and listen, no y'all listening.
Speaker 2: If you live in the Tri State area. It's just
Speaker 2: it's the worthiest investment ever to just get the party bus. Honey, honey,
Speaker 2: that is the best money you will have ever spent.
Speaker 1: Go online, find a bunch of people who are going,
Speaker 1: especially if it's one of these big artists. You know,
Speaker 1: there's big fan communities where you'd want to carpool and
Speaker 1: go in on one of these buses. You can get
Speaker 1: in and out and.
Speaker 2: Then they guess what, they get to stay in the
Speaker 2: parking lot for the entire show, and then you just
Speaker 2: go back to where you came from. And then these
Speaker 2: huge vehicles plow through.
Speaker 1: The lines that are leaving zee. It's beautiful, beautiful, big
Speaker 1: and bold is how you feel when you roll up
Speaker 1: in the automobile. That's big. That one doesn't work as
Speaker 1: well as a lot of my other songs. I disagree
Speaker 1: with something about it in the beginning, and then I
Speaker 1: don't know, girl, that's how you feel in the automobile.
Speaker 1: That's how you feel in the automobile. There's something there.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, what if we just did a gem sash?
Speaker 1: What if you and I just wrote a fucking pop banger? Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: we'll do it. Well, what's what mood are you in
Speaker 1: right now?
Speaker 2: I'm so awful and you feel awful because you're sick.
Speaker 2: But I'm here with my friends, so maybe it's a
Speaker 2: song about that.
Speaker 1: I think that's definitely part of the texture. But like,
Speaker 1: I feel like your emotion right now is like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know it's gonna be okay, but you really don't
Speaker 1: feel good. And what do you think is the tempo?
Speaker 1: If you could musically express how you feel? Mm hmm,
Speaker 1: this is wonderful. And now just.
Speaker 3: Oh, I have headache, but I'm with my girl, so
Speaker 3: it's okay.
Speaker 1: Another day in this world. Wait, this is good. Okay,
Speaker 1: I have a head It's sort of like rolling in
Speaker 1: the deep. Oh my God, I have headache, but I'm
Speaker 1: with my girl, trying to hate it another day in
Speaker 1: this world. This is good, this song that is driving
Speaker 1: through it keeping things are bad, like you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? Like its helpless. It's a really hopeless song.
Speaker 1: It is about rising up to do the podcast episode.
Speaker 1: That's what it's about. It's about I know I'm sick,
Speaker 1: but we need an episode this week. Right. I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna let this stop me from doing my job and
Speaker 1: get into the day. And that's what makes the song
Speaker 1: connect to anyone listening. I will not let my circumstances
Speaker 1: stop me from getting through this day. You will not
Speaker 1: hold me down. Katie Perry needs to sing this. Katie.
Speaker 1: It's Katie. We'll see you on your next album. Can
Speaker 1: my label mate Capital Girl. That'll be easy to get
Speaker 1: it over to her. Yeah? Is that how it works?
Speaker 1: I think that it would be a lot easier to
Speaker 1: work for someone on the same label. Yeah. Yeah, Troy
Speaker 1: Sevon my label mate, let's discuss her.
Speaker 2: I think this album is so sublime. I mean, it's
Speaker 2: certainly this era of Troy just well done. A plus, confident,
Speaker 2: comfortable songwriting, amazing production and swings. Swings the music videos
Speaker 2: are unforgettable. Yeah, it feels like I'm in the damn
Speaker 2: early odds.
Speaker 1: Yeah. The whole album, I mean, Honey is fantastic.
Speaker 2: Honey is so good. I think it's called how to
Speaker 2: Stay with You? The closing track.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what time is it where you are? I mean, like,
Speaker 1: what time is it where you are? Wow, that has
Speaker 1: gotten I've contributed to half of those plays. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: think she's racking up streams and that's for sure.
Speaker 2: Still, God, it is so good. Yeah, Oh silly got
Speaker 2: me started. Yeah, it's all great.
Speaker 1: And shout out to Brett Leland, who's like so fucking good.
Speaker 2: So good, I mean, excellent album. We I think people
Speaker 2: have been chomping at the bit for us to talk
Speaker 2: about this album that we've been hyping for months and months.
Speaker 1: Oh Chapel, Yeah, absolutely. We went to go see here
Speaker 1: at Brooklyn Steel too.
Speaker 2: I saw both the night you in Brooklyn and I
Speaker 2: did not plan to and I have no regrets.
Speaker 1: No, I mean that show was fucking fun. And also
Speaker 1: it's just I called it when I saw her back
Speaker 1: earlier in the year. Her following it was twice as
Speaker 1: intense as it was then, and it's gonna keep growing
Speaker 1: like this girl puts on a fun fucking show and
Speaker 1: all of the songs translate live in a really powerful way.
Speaker 1: No kidding.
Speaker 2: They hit on Tuesdays with people from work and they
Speaker 2: get to go to these concerts for free and stuff
Speaker 2: because they sometimes they handle some of the bookings.
Speaker 1: And one girl turns to me and goes, she's special. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was like, yes, oh my god, you connected the
Speaker 1: bookers of SNL to her show. That's made shows. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's not me like.
Speaker 2: On Saturday Live, like t went on an SNL or
Speaker 2: when when like I'm gonna say, like Marin Morris, when
Speaker 2: a SNL. It's like I love when SNL has like
Speaker 2: a discovery oh.
Speaker 1: Back in the day, Like you could argue, we've discussed
Speaker 1: it on this pod, but like you could argue, Adele
Speaker 1: became Adele because of her Saturday Night Live perform when
Speaker 1: she did Chasing Pavements the same night. I believe that
Speaker 1: it was like the second time Tina fe was doing
Speaker 1: Sarah Pale.
Speaker 2: It was Josh Brolin and yeah, right, it was when
Speaker 2: Sarah Palin herself showed up.
Speaker 1: Oh that one, right, right, right, right right.
Speaker 2: And Adele has a funny story where she sees Sarah
Speaker 2: Palin in the hall and she goes.
Speaker 1: Tana, Yeah, like she thought that is you're saying that? Yeah, Like,
Speaker 1: remember she won Best at the Grammys and that was
Speaker 1: Grammy voting time, I think, and like it was literally
Speaker 1: like that election year where everyone's eyes were turned to
Speaker 1: and then I remember, like she even says that she's
Speaker 1: like now and she she kind of says like that
Speaker 1: in that same exact voice I just did. That is
Speaker 1: an amazing impression. The fact that I lost control of
Speaker 1: my adele. I'm worthless. I should walk into the street
Speaker 1: and you think it's a requirement that you have in
Speaker 1: adele impression. It's the easiest accent to do in the world,
Speaker 1: and I'm world famous for it. You know what Cockney
Speaker 1: break it down?
Speaker 2: Well, it's like, you know how when you ask British
Speaker 2: people to do an American accent, or when you see
Speaker 2: a British person like an actor.
Speaker 1: Yea, and they go hi, y'all, hey, y'all, they go
Speaker 1: into like the most regionally chaotic Southern accent. You guys
Speaker 1: are so fucking chaotic. O We're in the UK, dude.
Speaker 2: I feel like the equivalent for us is doing Coffney
Speaker 2: like that you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I want one hundred percent I know what you mean.
Speaker 1: So it's like it's a very delicate accent to nail.
Speaker 1: So I'm sorry to Adele, and I'm sorry to myself
Speaker 1: for being so hard on myself about my adel and
Speaker 1: my therapist to be proud of me for saying apologizing
Speaker 1: to myself.
Speaker 2: Did she say recently, just another way to be cruel
Speaker 2: to yourself? Said, I love this, by the way I
Speaker 2: talk about it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, totally. I mean I was beating up on myself
Speaker 1: about I think I was nervous about the music coming up,
Speaker 1: of course, and I was nervous about the music videos, which,
Speaker 1: by the way, I'm so thrilled. Wasn't happy to do it,
Speaker 1: and everything has been incredible, but I stress out and
Speaker 1: I beat myself up, and she was just listening to me,
Speaker 1: and she just takes a beat, and my therapist just
Speaker 1: goes another way for you to be cruel to yourself,
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, And then I actually laughed
Speaker 1: because I was like, when you put it like that,
Speaker 1: it makes it sound almost like when it's so easily
Speaker 1: clocked by someone else, You're like, now it just feels like, well, now,
Speaker 1: that you'm boring and annoying for me to be like,
Speaker 1: it's beyond self awareness and it's like someone calling your therapist,
Speaker 1: calling you in and so that now you know, it's
Speaker 1: like in this external awareness that other people can clock it.
Speaker 1: She just texted me your therapist. Yes, Oh my god,
Speaker 1: do we have a psychic connection? Oh? I asked for
Speaker 1: an emergency session this week and she just I said,
Speaker 1: she said nothing yet, Oh no, are you? Are you okay?
Speaker 1: Everything's fine? I think okay. Just to be totally real, like,
Speaker 1: there was more attached to that song I just released
Speaker 1: than just like it's a funny song, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Like, yeah, I wrote that like sort of
Speaker 1: to deal with what I was going through earlier in
Speaker 1: the year. So I had a degree of anxiety about
Speaker 1: it coming out, and when it came out and it
Speaker 1: just brought things up. So I reached out to the
Speaker 1: old therapist. It was the first time I ever like did.
Speaker 1: I think probably with you with Fire Island, you may
Speaker 1: have felt this way, but like it's the first time
Speaker 1: you feel like you give a little part of yourself
Speaker 1: into a thing, because usually we just usually do like
Speaker 1: sketches and characters and silly songs and stuff, and then
Speaker 1: all of a sudden you actually show up in something
Speaker 1: and it's like it's different, it's very strange.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I can't imagine what this feels like, because
Speaker 2: would you say, this is the first thing you've put
Speaker 2: out that has a significant degree of like, oh, this
Speaker 2: is funny, yes, but like very me very diaristic, very.
Speaker 1: Like it's the first thing I've successfully wrote about my
Speaker 1: own pain. Oh, it's like and that that actually feels
Speaker 1: like so cool, really cool, because I remember, like I
Speaker 1: don't know how you feel. But sometimes I feel like
Speaker 1: the kind of writer that feels lame because I never
Speaker 1: can really put on paper what I'm going through emotionally.
Speaker 1: I can be funny and I can like explore like
Speaker 1: comedic scenarios, but I've just never been good at like using,
Speaker 1: for lack of better term, like taking my broken heart
Speaker 1: and making it into art like that. It's not a
Speaker 1: thing for me. It's I usually create from joy. And
Speaker 1: I think when you are sad that makes it even
Speaker 1: more frustrating because you're like, why do I feel all
Speaker 1: these big fucking emotions and I can't do anything with
Speaker 1: them now? I feel pathetic. And then I'd bet a
Speaker 1: shit out of myself because it feels like, yeah, sure,
Speaker 1: like comedy is one thing, but then actually saying how
Speaker 1: I feel. It's sometimes harder to funnel that into the
Speaker 1: comedy without feeling you're trying too hard or you know,
Speaker 1: getting in your own way.
Speaker 2: You know, but you feel some obligation to be like
Speaker 2: in that moment, to be like creative, generative, whatever when
Speaker 2: you're feeling sad.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you can't, and that's frustrated you can't. So
Speaker 1: this was the first time I ever successfully ended up
Speaker 1: with something where I was like, I believe that says
Speaker 1: something about what I went through. And also I stand
Speaker 1: by comedically and as a song well comedic.
Speaker 2: The comedy of it is so inseparable from the emotion
Speaker 2: of it, which is like, Wow, I felt so many
Speaker 2: things with you, the person you're saying to in the song,
Speaker 2: but I don't really know that much about you, which
Speaker 2: is such I'm gonna go as far as to say
Speaker 2: that like it's a universal feeling and Yeh've all had
Speaker 2: those people.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's about that thing that feels so big but
Speaker 1: occupies such a moment, you know what I mean, And
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden time does its thing where
Speaker 1: you like literally start to forget, and there is something
Speaker 1: funny about that, like like when a star explodes, like
Speaker 1: a big bang of emotion and then everything just starts
Speaker 1: to sort of settle, and then you're like, oh, wow,
Speaker 1: I went through that, and I can't really say much
Speaker 1: specifically about it because time just starts to do that
Speaker 1: thing that they say is gonna make things better. But
Speaker 1: then there's also something sad about it too, because you're like,
Speaker 1: oh man, the specificity of it is going away. That's
Speaker 1: also part of the heartbreak. So I guess that's like
Speaker 1: the best distillation of how I'm feeling. How I feel
Speaker 1: about the whole thing is that, Like it's worthy of
Speaker 1: a song, but I've truly I can't say much specifically
Speaker 1: about it. Yeah, but that thing makes the song right,
Speaker 1: And that's really incredible that you took it a meta
Speaker 1: layer above that and then you're like, this is what
Speaker 1: the song that's about. It's excellent. It feels good to
Speaker 1: create something that you think like says something about how
Speaker 1: you feel. You know what I mean? Like that is girl,
Speaker 1: when we get our.
Speaker 2: Pens to paper, you know what, I can't quite tell
Speaker 2: where I'm at in terms of talking about my own emotions.
Speaker 2: I will say when I'm in therapy and I I
Speaker 2: go off, I'm like, well, I should be writing every
Speaker 2: word of this time because I'm writing a fucking I'm
Speaker 2: writing like Jerry Maguire the movie too.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. You should be journaling. I
Speaker 1: should be journal my journaling. It helps well.
Speaker 2: I go back to meet some of my entries from
Speaker 2: like last year, and I'm like, today was fine, went
Speaker 2: to the gym, had a smoothie.
Speaker 1: I'm like, this is so boding. Then maybe there's something
Speaker 1: there and make fun of yourself like that. I mean, honestly,
Speaker 1: that's kind of what ultimately everything you want song is
Speaker 1: is like I literally sat down to like do this
Speaker 1: earnest exercise of like what do I wish him for Christmas?
Speaker 1: This year? I couldn't remember shit, and I was like, Okay, well,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna drag myself. Wow, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like there's something. I think. It's just like you literally
Speaker 1: just write those things down, not so that like it
Speaker 1: can be something in the moment, but so that you
Speaker 1: can have a reaction to it later. That's I think
Speaker 1: something about writing I didn't realize or remember, but is something.
Speaker 1: Writing is so hard. It's hard, Yeah, very difficult, especially
Speaker 1: when you train yourself to think in a short form
Speaker 1: again and again and again.
Speaker 2: I would imagine, Well, I am always like so paralyzed
Speaker 2: whenever the season's off at SNL. I'm like, I think
Speaker 2: my creative process is a writing process at least is
Speaker 2: like purely sight specific.
Speaker 1: Like you're just you just feel like it's now when
Speaker 1: you think writing, you think that type of specific.
Speaker 2: Which I really need to start like untangling, because it's
Speaker 2: like I can't be locked into this. I cannot have
Speaker 2: the paralysis around this, around anything else because I'm always
Speaker 2: used to this one way of posturing myself. But I'm
Speaker 2: excited to work on longer form things in the future woo.
Speaker 1: But also LOLBB, I'm like, you know what you should
Speaker 1: do in journal? Like sorry, but as if I journal, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I have journal, That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I hit a plateau with it, like over the summer.
Speaker 2: I was like, this isn't really helping me.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. So I have been off of that ah
Speaker 1: and it's been fine. Well, you're spinning yourself out. It
Speaker 1: just felt like I made.
Speaker 2: It feel like such a chore because it was on
Speaker 2: like my checklist of things to do every day.
Speaker 1: M hmm.
Speaker 2: And I always came with such a weird attitude around.
Speaker 2: I was like, this is compulsory, like I don't really
Speaker 2: want to do this. Instead that kind of like it's
Speaker 2: just waste of time.
Speaker 1: Time. Can I ask you a question? Were you typing it?
Speaker 1: Typing it? You have to write it and then it
Speaker 1: will feel so much easier and actually more fun. And
Speaker 1: when you feel like you have to sit down and
Speaker 1: type something, I think there's this message you sent to yourself,
Speaker 1: which is it has to be a thing and long.
Speaker 1: Right now. I never think I can just like jot
Speaker 1: something down typing, But when I write, I can write
Speaker 1: just like a couple sentences down and then put it
Speaker 1: down and then news for you when you add to
Speaker 1: that later you are writing something totally or you're just
Speaker 1: collecting whatever it is. But like your process, I think,
Speaker 1: take it out of the computer, girl, Where do you
Speaker 1: think you go to the damn notebook with a pen? Girl?
Speaker 1: You want to do? I don't think so, honey, And
Speaker 1: you know it is time. I'm so sorry. I'm feeling
Speaker 1: really sick. The first thing we have to do before
Speaker 1: we do that, because we promised is rank Taylor Swift's
Speaker 1: top ten number ones, and I'm going to do it
Speaker 1: really quickly so you don't have to because you're going
Speaker 1: to agree with me when I say it. Number one
Speaker 1: is all too well ten minute version. Number two is
Speaker 1: plank Space. Number three is cruel Summer. Number four is Willow.
Speaker 1: Number five is look what you made me do. Number
Speaker 1: six you've already done. This is we are never ever
Speaker 1: getting back together. Number seven is you think that's worse
Speaker 1: than Look what you made me do? Oh after the movie?
Speaker 1: You rank it about that? Yeah? Sorry? Number seven is
Speaker 1: stop you're losing me. That's not me saying that one,
Speaker 1: but I'm losing What it is, it's we should know that,
Speaker 1: go shake it off, Shake it off. Then it's bad Blood.
Speaker 1: Then it's Cardigan. That's only nine. I'm forgetting one, but
Speaker 1: that's okay. I think you got all of them. No
Speaker 1: I didn't because I only had nine fingers raised anti
Speaker 1: hero anti hero? Okay, then put anti hero in between
Speaker 1: look what you made me do? And you're never getting
Speaker 1: back together and we're never ever going that low. I
Speaker 1: think that. I think that's one of her most incredible songs.
Speaker 1: It's better than all too well ten and version blank Space,
Speaker 1: Cruel Summer and then what did you do between Cruel
Speaker 1: Summer and Willow? But that's personal to me. Oh, I
Speaker 1: do love Willow. Willow is that girl. And when she
Speaker 1: came out with those orbs and said, wait for this signal,
Speaker 1: n O me you after dark, I'm gonna put that
Speaker 1: below will I'm gonna put anty here below Willow better
Speaker 1: than Look what do you mean me do? Is that
Speaker 1: the ranking? You have seen the Aerostor movie. I know
Speaker 1: you have, and you still want to do that. You
Speaker 1: still won't Look what you made me do to be
Speaker 1: that loud after you saw the Aerostar movie and you
Speaker 1: saw the slagage and the carnage pop carnage.
Speaker 2: I think that's an amazing production moment in the concert.
Speaker 1: I respect your sister, sister, And do you understand what
Speaker 1: I'm saying I do now? Honest? Are we ranking them
Speaker 1: by song quality? Girl? Yes? And I understand now I
Speaker 1: think I do.
Speaker 2: I admire Look what Jimimi do because it is such
Speaker 2: a swing and she was like, bucket, this is my
Speaker 2: first single. It's I'm basically doing right, said Fred unto Sexy,
Speaker 2: who fucking cares? I think that's actually so so amazing.
Speaker 1: It's literally so amazing.
Speaker 2: Like I'm one of the best songwriters. I'm the best
Speaker 2: songwriter my generation. I'm putting this fucking crazy ass song
Speaker 2: out there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for my like No Press Vengeance album, Don't Talk
Speaker 1: to Me album, Taylor, Way to Go, Way to Go.
Speaker 1: This is I don't think so Honey. It's where we
Speaker 1: take one minute to rants rail and more against something
Speaker 1: in Colaster that we absolutely want to drag, discredit and more.
Speaker 1: I have something that is actually based on my evening
Speaker 1: at Patrizia's. It references something that I discussed earlier, and
Speaker 1: I think this one's going to be tough, especially for
Speaker 1: the katies. But I have to say this because I
Speaker 1: feel it. Oh oh, this is Matt Ronders. I don't
Speaker 1: think so Honey as ten starts now, I don't think
Speaker 1: so Honey Espressomarzini's. I'm sorry. I think that the moment
Speaker 1: burnt bright. Yeah, but I think that moment has passed.
Speaker 1: I think that it's now gotten out of control because
Speaker 1: I don't think so Honey, an espresso martini before your
Speaker 1: meal unless that meal is gonna be like also some
Speaker 1: kind of dessert. You are absolutely ruining your palette. I
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey, that you can really enjoy, like,
Speaker 1: for example, at an Italian place like chicken parmesan after
Speaker 1: an espresso martini. I'm sorry, I don't think so, honey.
Speaker 1: I want to throw up when I think about that combination.
Speaker 1: And you will see these girls sucking down espresso martinis
Speaker 1: with meals and ruining their dinners. Meanwhile, post dinner. Fine,
Speaker 1: but as a cultural moment, we've moved on from just
Speaker 1: post dinner drinks. And also, you can't use it in
Speaker 1: the place of a red Bull anymore. I don't think so, honey,
Speaker 1: because culturally now we're confused. We've let espresso martini go
Speaker 1: too far. It's time to go back to Redville. And
Speaker 1: if you're this type of girl, cocaine, I don't think
Speaker 1: so amazing now.
Speaker 2: I want to say that, don't do cocaine. Don't do
Speaker 2: cocaine like an espresso. This peaked an amazing but it
Speaker 2: is no crashing.
Speaker 1: I don't really know what's set.
Speaker 2: You're saying that we as a culture have moved on
Speaker 2: from post dinner drinks.
Speaker 1: No, I'm saying we as a culture can't handle espressal martini.
Speaker 1: This is why we can't have nice things because they've
Speaker 1: moved too far beyond being a post dinner drink to
Speaker 1: like give us a second win, like now culturally, like
Speaker 1: I see them at all hours of the day. And
Speaker 1: also there's this crazy thing happening and Jessel, I love
Speaker 1: you girl. But earlier in the season of Rony, my Girl,
Speaker 1: My Diva, Jessel tank, I am a tank top. She
Speaker 1: ordered a espresso martini with tequila. Oh, I do remember that.
Speaker 2: That was when I didn't really wasn't a big fan
Speaker 2: of hers anyway.
Speaker 1: And now I look back and I'm like, go off,
Speaker 1: queen with your weird ass cocktail. But no, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: we can't be trusted with this anymore. We can't. Did
Speaker 1: you watch the Me Union last name? I have to
Speaker 1: tell you I didn't, but I will. But I heard
Speaker 1: that it was boring, and that's making it hard to like.
Speaker 1: It's only in two parts. It's only in two parts,
Speaker 1: and the first part, you would say, was kind of boring.
Speaker 2: Pretty boring, although there are interesting dynamics happening where you
Speaker 2: can clearly see it's so obvious that Si and Aaron
Speaker 2: have come into that union being like a week came
Speaker 2: off really bad. Yeah, but then Sigh of course is
Speaker 2: fucking insufferable and does this thing where she's like, I'm
Speaker 2: taking full accountability and I'm sorry Brandon for what I
Speaker 2: said to you, and I'm sorry Jessel for what I said.
Speaker 2: Blah blah blah, I'm sorry. I'm taking full accountability. And
Speaker 2: then the within her next breath is like, but also
Speaker 2: like I was right, and your husband's cheating on you
Speaker 2: and blah blah blah, no one suffered more than me
Speaker 2: all this shit. Aaron does the same thing. She has
Speaker 2: a tearful moment out of nowhere about being the older sister,
Speaker 2: the eldest sister. Fucking Jenna starts sobbing ten minutes and
Speaker 2: it was a weird one.
Speaker 1: But I heard Uba was kind of acting. Uba was
Speaker 1: misunderstanding things. I did not understand what.
Speaker 2: But to bring to that scenario was like totally derailing
Speaker 2: a conversation that Andy was starting and where like everyone
Speaker 2: would be like, what are you talking about? Yeah, it
Speaker 2: was not great, and then it ends with sign Jessel
Speaker 2: and then like Jessel came off great, Andessel is a
Speaker 2: great moment where.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she looks good next to Andy, he looks.
Speaker 2: Good next to Andy, but then sigh in one of
Speaker 2: her like you know moments. Her her words silence was like,
Speaker 2: I apologize. I should have never commented on your marriage.
Speaker 2: I don't think you and your husband have a connection,
Speaker 2: but I should never comment on someone's ma And the
Speaker 2: JUSTL was like, you just did.
Speaker 1: Yeah, unbelievable.
Speaker 2: And but the way Jessell does it is like, well
Speaker 2: you're fucking stupid.
Speaker 1: It was great. I think Justll clear winner, I shouldn't
Speaker 1: have said anything. I apologize for saying so. I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't think you and your husband have a connection,
Speaker 1: but I'm sorry. I shouldn't have said anything. But I
Speaker 1: don't think you and your husband have a connection. But
Speaker 1: I shouldn't be commenting on your marriage. Well you just did.
Speaker 1: Can I ask? What do you think it is about
Speaker 1: Sy that stops her from being a villain we love
Speaker 1: and is making her more of a villain that we're irritated?
Speaker 1: Not funny?
Speaker 2: She actually Hunter Harris is actually talking about this in
Speaker 2: her substack. Like Brandon and Jenna have style, Cy has brands. Yes,
Speaker 2: I doesn't really. I don't think she like knows how
Speaker 2: to dress herself.
Speaker 1: I will say I think she always looks amazing, But
Speaker 1: you're right, it might be for the reasons you're saying,
Speaker 1: because I think that there's a lack of like individuality
Speaker 1: in what she brings.
Speaker 2: And well, she was harping on the same things all season.
Speaker 2: The food, Yeah, her mother, which is of course the
Speaker 2: tragic thing, but like constantly bringing it up as a
Speaker 2: way to like put down other people, so bizarre.
Speaker 1: I wonder if she feels really embarrassed about the food thing.
Speaker 1: I'm sure because it's really it got really diring.
Speaker 2: Well, you can tell that she is someone who embarrassment
Speaker 2: is adjoined to anger, Like when she like in the
Speaker 2: finale and she.
Speaker 1: Was like lash out, like she lashes out when.
Speaker 2: She when she's been caught in something, she fucking explodes,
Speaker 2: And you're like, yikes, that is not something that anyone
Speaker 2: likes to see on TV from any gender, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean. I don't think it's like a oh
Speaker 2: or she's a woman, she's not a lot to be angry.
Speaker 2: She's a woman of color. I think it literally is
Speaker 2: something that like that's not fun on reality television.
Speaker 1: I think it just needs to feel like justified and
Speaker 1: it's just she got so here's my thing. I literally
Speaker 1: I don't even dislike her. I think they're all figuring out.
Speaker 1: I don't know why I have like a compassion for
Speaker 1: this cast. Maybe it's because I'm doing their Bravo Con
Speaker 1: panel and I'm really trying to because I'm no, I
Speaker 1: think what it is it's not even about fair is.
Speaker 1: I'm just really trying to see the best in all
Speaker 1: of them. That's because I'm trying not to make a
Speaker 1: decision about one of them before I like go into
Speaker 1: this thing where I have to like, you know, talk
Speaker 1: with all of them, et cetera. But I will say
Speaker 1: it is tough with side because it's that thing of
Speaker 1: like her behavior just isn't very grounded. Yeah, and I
Speaker 1: just you know, it could be the editing, but like
Speaker 1: it's just you can't really fake it. That's such a
Speaker 1: rooky move.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for her, It's both sign Aaron being on, like
Speaker 2: the Bravo Instagram commenting being like stay tuned for the
Speaker 2: beginning and the editing did as dirty blah blah blah,
Speaker 2: and then like people dragging them in the Yeah, I
Speaker 2: had to get in there and be like, girl, you're
Speaker 2: not cut out for this. I really don't think Aaron
Speaker 2: is cut out for reality television.
Speaker 1: She seems very sensitive in a way where it's like
Speaker 1: it's fine, it's not like a yeah, it's just sensitive.
Speaker 1: If you're able to dish it out, you have to
Speaker 1: be able to take it. And it seems like taking
Speaker 1: it for her means like full meltdown in a way
Speaker 1: where it's like, Okay, cute. We can watch that, for sure,
Speaker 1: we can adjust to that. I just it's not clear
Speaker 1: at the end of it, like and I think their
Speaker 1: first season and second season, for better or worse are
Speaker 1: going to be very different because these women now have
Speaker 1: been in the machine and the cooker, which is why
Speaker 1: I don't think we should get rid of any of them.
Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna double down on this. We keep
Speaker 1: them all and bring in Leah. I think that is
Speaker 1: the best move, if Lee even wants to do it right.
Speaker 1: But start the campaign anyway. Espresso Martini's I'm just noticing
Speaker 1: it's excess, That's all I'm saying. Bowen, do you haven't?
Speaker 1: I don't think so any topic, Yes you do. You
Speaker 1: said it was going to be a barn burner, and
Speaker 1: this is the moment we've all been waiting for. Bowen
Speaker 1: Yang your I don't think so honey, time starts now.
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. The word earnestness. Why aren't
Speaker 1: you earnesty? Why aren't you earnesty? The English language is
Speaker 1: a lie, y'all. We are breaking the lang. I just
Speaker 1: broke the language. Earnesty is not a word, but it
Speaker 1: should be right.
Speaker 2: It's not honestness, it's honesty, and honesty is the word
Speaker 2: that is the most important, not earnest ness, and therefore
Speaker 2: honesty should set the model for earnesty. We need to
Speaker 2: write legislation to make earnesty a word in America at least.
Speaker 2: I don't want to speak for other countries, for other
Speaker 2: countries that speak English, but in America it should be earnesty.
Speaker 2: That is something that we can all get behind. It's
Speaker 2: a bipartisan effort.
Speaker 1: That will pass fifty Let contrarian out there and being
Speaker 1: fucking oh it's earnestness, blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: No, I don't want to hear from you. You should not
Speaker 2: participate in our democracy.
Speaker 1: You should only vote if you think the words should
Speaker 1: be earnesty, because otherwise the English language is a fucking grift.
Speaker 1: And that's one minute. I have to say. There's another
Speaker 1: example of this, which is it's not jealousness. It's not
Speaker 1: just jealousy that you add a y to the word honesty. Jealousy, Earnesty,
Speaker 1: it's not irons, it's irony. It's irony. I don't like
Speaker 1: on any word. No, oh, you just watching people bowen.
Speaker 1: Just literally physically, you were like Yoda at the end
Speaker 1: of I think it's what he's done. He does, and
Speaker 1: I think empires are spelled yeah, yeah, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: he does Jedi. Yeah, you literally just did that his
Speaker 1: final breath.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, I looked like I look like
Speaker 2: anytime rogue would like touch someone.
Speaker 1: You need a moment of like coming back together, because
Speaker 1: you spent all your energy on that one. I agree
Speaker 1: with you, sister, Earnesty down.
Speaker 2: Earnesty, Earnestness don't sound right, That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Ness offends you. Ness is so gross. Get out of here, nessy,
Speaker 1: get out of here. Fucking well. This has been I
Speaker 1: think a very healing episode. Your energy seems much lighter
Speaker 1: and better now than when I came in and I
Speaker 1: thought you were dead man walking sister with the lights
Speaker 1: start low. I'm gonna get better. I guess we should
Speaker 1: end every episode with a song. Soon you good, better,
Speaker 1: Soon you get better, You're get better, m H, could
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