1 00:00:00,960 --> 00:00:04,920 Speaker 1: Look mare, Oh, I see you my own look over 2 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:10,559 Speaker 1: there is that culture. Yes, goodness, wow, lost culture ding 3 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 1: dong last Culturista's calling. This actually is another in the 4 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: series of recording at homes. 5 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 2: Recording at homes. Wonder what that's about. It's cozy, it's fall, happy, 6 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 2: Scorpio season, my sister. 7 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, we're in Bowen's house and at scorpio season. 8 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 1: You kind of have the floor. What do you want 9 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: to say? 10 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 2: I say, everyone dress in all dark colors. Everyone shoplift 11 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 2: a little yes, fuck your boss. 12 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 1: Just kidding. Don't do any of those things, especially not 13 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:45,240 Speaker 1: wear dark clothes. Let's break that, break the pattern pattern. 14 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 1: I am loving dressing for the fall. 15 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 2: I have not heard you so clearly state your not 16 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 2: only distaste for summer, but love of the colder season. 17 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 1: It has been the highlight of my year being here 18 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 1: in New York City. Now, like the October flesh and 19 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: the flannel cure. November sorry, fuck well, I'm sure November 20 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:10,039 Speaker 1: will be grade too. Untilor was right about that one. 21 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 1: When I got here, Bowen was playing Cruel Summer, contributing 22 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 1: to the number one hit. 23 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't have to contribute anymore. I'm doing 24 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 2: it for my own enjoyment period. 25 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 1: I mean, congrats to her, by the way, ten number ones, 26 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: and later we will rank all ten number ones. Look 27 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 1: forward to that one later. 28 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 2: Brother, let's talk about my sister's huge, huge ALP musical release. 29 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 2: I was gonna say album released, but not yet album incoming. 30 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 2: I mean, let's talk about it. I have a song 31 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 2: with Muna that is so sligh. You know, they say 32 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 2: I can die now. I genuinely if I if I 33 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 2: were to be hit by let's say of us, at 34 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 2: least let's just say of us, I at least would 35 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 2: have probably in my you know, what do they call 36 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 2: the post mortem when they write about you and the obituary? Girl, 37 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 2: obituary or do you mean like the autopsy? 38 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: Okay, well, if they cut open my body and could 39 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 1: see my heart, it would be a flow gratitude. Yeah, 40 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 1: but in my obituary it probably would read he had 41 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 1: a song with Muna and then I I could die now, 42 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 1: because I know it will say. 43 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:21,839 Speaker 2: In the first sentence. Yeah, period, he had a song 44 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 2: with Muna. Matt Rogers, age thirty three, was struck by 45 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 2: an energy efficient city bus. 46 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:33,919 Speaker 1: At least that at least at least you helped. I mean, 47 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 1: at least I know that while the energy that was 48 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 1: being used to run me over, Yeah, at least it 49 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:40,639 Speaker 1: was clean. At least it's not going to be a 50 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 1: harmful I don't think you should even joke about this, 51 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:47,920 Speaker 1: because you would be distraught if I were to get 52 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: hit by a bus out there. 53 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:51,519 Speaker 2: Oh my god, No, I can't even think about this. 54 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:53,959 Speaker 2: I would be so sad. At least it would be 55 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 2: durting the fall, knowe, No, no, yeah, you're right, we 56 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 2: can't know. I mean reader Katie's publics as finalists. I'm 57 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 2: genuinely so immediately sad now that I'm thinking about this. 58 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:05,359 Speaker 2: By the way, I am not feeling my best. And 59 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 2: the one has what we think is an ear infection. 60 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:09,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I've come to his home and he's wearing 61 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 1: all sweats and the lights were damn. He was eating 62 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 1: what was it you were having Kung shu fu ramen? 63 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 2: There we go to the famous Chinese ramen that is 64 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:21,359 Speaker 2: I think better than some of the Korean and Japanese stuff. 65 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 1: Sorry, looks like you meant to start with that statement. 66 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 1: But things were feeling cozy in here, like a sick 67 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: boy was living here. So I've come over and I 68 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: of course smoked a little weed and then handed him 69 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 1: the joint and then I smoked at myself. So that's 70 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 1: how we sisters do. We get each other sick. And 71 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 1: you did give me COVID recently, I did, And by 72 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 1: you gave me COVID, I mean I got COVID directly 73 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 1: after you. It could have been the other way around. 74 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 1: So it was would you rather have been from someone else? No, 75 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get covid. I wanted. I want at least 76 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 1: contracted from you. But you were doing that thing of apologizing, 77 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 1: and I was like, no one should ever apologize at 78 00:03:58,760 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 1: this point, It's out there. 79 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 2: I apologizing that I was around you guys that you 80 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 2: knew I didn't know. 81 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 1: You knew well. You tested positive. Look to the stick 82 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 1: and you looked devilishly in the mirror at your reflection 83 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:16,599 Speaker 1: and said coming to me and Sudie. And you walked 84 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 1: in and said, give me a hugs, sister, smiling all 85 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:25,039 Speaker 1: the way. As I contracted the virus, the curl virus 86 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 1: nineteen nineteen. 87 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 2: You got to do a song with your favorite band. 88 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 2: Is that a true statement? 89 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 1: It is? Do you know what I was so nervous 90 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 1: and scared to call them up, and Brett was like, Oh, 91 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:38,839 Speaker 1: we should FaceTime her right now. We should FaceTime Katie 92 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 1: right now. And I was just like I had been 93 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 1: through like four drafts of like a notesapp thing to 94 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:46,839 Speaker 1: like send them, and I was like, we can't just 95 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 1: call and he was like, you know we can. We're 96 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:51,160 Speaker 1: gonna do it right now, huh. And I was like okay, 97 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:53,599 Speaker 1: because he's one of those people that's like such a 98 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:55,919 Speaker 1: we're gonna do it self starter, right And I'm the 99 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 1: kind of person I don't know how you feel, but 100 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:00,599 Speaker 1: I'll put her around anxiously before I do anything. Between 101 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: you and Brett. 102 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, you guys are a great team because you get 103 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 2: to pull the other in a direction of your choice. 104 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. Brett is Leland, by the way, who produced and 105 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 1: co wrote the track with me, and we called she 106 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:18,600 Speaker 1: said yes immediately, and then she sent over the track 107 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: like pretty much the next day, and we heard her 108 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 1: voice on it and literally just collapsed in each other's arms. 109 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 1: I was like, because this is his second Moon of 110 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:29,279 Speaker 1: feature and it was obviously my first, and I was 111 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 1: just like, oh my god, it just made the song 112 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:33,479 Speaker 1: so much better. I'm so happy, and then she was 113 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 1: in the video. 114 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 2: Comedy performance Kick she should act the direct like it 115 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:43,479 Speaker 2: was Chris miss right right, she killed it. She killed it, 116 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 2: but just that move on here, yeah. 117 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,720 Speaker 1: Giving pop star the whole time. It was so good 118 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 1: and I loved the discussion and the lead up about 119 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 1: what she would wear. And she she texted me and 120 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 1: she goes, should I just be like a slutty pop 121 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 1: girly version of you? I was like, yeah, yeah, you should, 122 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 1: that's exactly you should shop and she did. She looks unbelievable, 123 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:06,479 Speaker 1: was so funny. She should act and made the whole 124 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 1: thing better and Jared Frieder crushed it. We co directed it. 125 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 1: Now talk about this part. How'd it feel to be 126 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 1: in the director's chair? We Love We Love because I 127 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 1: wrote up the treatment. So basically my two favorite music 128 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 1: videos of all time are Gwen Stefani Cool, which we've 129 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 1: talked about. I'd nause him on this podcast, definitely inspired 130 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: the video, and then also Moon five She Will Be 131 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 1: Love with Iconic Star turn by Kelly Preston. Yes, it's 132 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:33,359 Speaker 1: like narrative in the way that I didn't know I 133 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:35,359 Speaker 1: could do by myself. So brought Jared in and he 134 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:37,839 Speaker 1: just like crushes. He's so good at what he does. 135 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 1: Jared frieda direct that. 136 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 2: Direct that previous guest on the podcast. 137 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 1: If you're not familiar, He's eatened to come over again tonight. 138 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 1: He threatened to I can't have guests, no, only me, 139 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:50,839 Speaker 1: so sorry. He did the Jared thing, which was I 140 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:53,040 Speaker 1: was like, I'm going over to Bones to record the episode. 141 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 1: He goes, okay, I'll come. Uh huh. I was like okay, 142 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: and then he was like he looked at me, like really, 143 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 1: and I was like, no, but he can come another time. 144 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 1: I would have loved to have had him if I 145 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: wasn't ill. Do you know what I mean? Yes, it's 146 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 1: actually very sort of I'm not gonna say chic, but 147 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 1: it's apt of you to be sick now in the 148 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 1: fall time, because this is when this is when it 149 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 1: goes around. Girl. Look at you getting your liquids. He's 150 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: absolutely sucking down water. 151 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 2: By the way, are you on these Stanley cups? 152 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 1: Babe? I'm a Stanley girl. I've earned money from Stanley. 153 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 1: They took me to Sundance. Really, girl, I speak for Stanley. 154 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 1: I have a partner. I had no idea girl, get 155 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 1: in on this with me. Are you obsessed. First of all, 156 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 1: they set me their sixty four ounce cup that is 157 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 1: all the water you need in a day. And I'm 158 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 1: looking over there and there is clearly whatever is in 159 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 1: that huge canister is all you would need in today 160 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 1: is all I would need a day. And you want 161 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 1: to know something, I drink more period because you get 162 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 1: excited to drink it because you what feel like a 163 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 1: Stanley girl? Can I tell you what I wanted to 164 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:00,120 Speaker 1: say when you and Sudy were talking about the but 165 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 1: and I love that for you who had those huge, 166 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 1: huge bottles, the sixty four rounds bottles that had like 167 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 1: the markers and the little like stupid little pep talks 168 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 1: on the side. What what were you wanted to say 169 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 1: to us celest. 170 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 2: Sarah and I got them at the office. Yes, tried 171 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 2: it for a week. We were both like, this isn't fun. 172 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 1: Oh why because it's like it feels like a chore. 173 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 2: It feels like a chore aesthetically those bottles are discussed 174 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 2: to know, no, and like I don't need to be 175 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 2: like patronized, infantilized by this fucking water bottle with its words. 176 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:36,679 Speaker 1: And then when this came mm hmm, I thought Wow, yeah, 177 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 1: like this is I'm sorry. I'm all about the style, 178 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 1: and this has the style. It will never go out 179 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 1: of style. It's classic, it's clean. I know you love 180 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 1: that logo. It's a gorgeous logo and I bear with 181 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 1: the wings. It's exciting to see you so immediately taken 182 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 1: by an enthusiastic about a logo on a fond because 183 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 1: that's how I know the product is top notched, because you, 184 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 1: my sister, have a discerning eye when it comes to that. 185 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 1: I just want kind of can you head it to me? 186 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 1: Can I just look at it and hold it? 187 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 2: Stanley not not sponsored by the way. 188 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 1: Unpaid, unpaid. Look at that Gorgia. Hear her saying, this 189 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:24,479 Speaker 1: is sounds of Staley. Oh, this sounds of Stalica. Oh 190 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 1: more to come later. That one is gonna become a 191 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 1: full bop. Wait what it calls? What this song? Which song? 192 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 1: My song? This is the sound of the song. This 193 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 1: is the sound of the Staley cup. I think we're 194 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 1: gonna find it. 195 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:40,679 Speaker 2: My god, I think you have like a Paul Diamond 196 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 2: Graceland ESK album. 197 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:45,680 Speaker 1: And you you are too kind to me. What are 198 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 1: you gonna do next? Handy twenty thousand dollars or just mine. 199 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:53,679 Speaker 1: This one is too good to me. I literally, I 200 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 1: am so happy to see you enjoying the stand life. 201 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 1: It makes me so It looks so pathetic and sick 202 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 1: right now. You don't look like you could take on 203 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:06,439 Speaker 1: the world, but I'm here with you. Describe my posture. 204 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 1: I'm like, shoulders, you look like someone in a rom 205 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 1: com who gets broken up with you. Look like Diane 206 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:15,959 Speaker 1: Lane In like before she starts to like take her 207 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 1: own life by the balls. You know what I mean. 208 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:23,199 Speaker 1: Like it's giving Gracie heart Not yet, Gracie Lufrey Bush right, 209 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 1: Oh wow? 210 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 2: Not in like I look like I look like a 211 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 2: fucking butch FBI agent in the form of Sandra Bulla. 212 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 1: You really do, Honestly, this is giving I'm off due 213 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 1: to FBI. 214 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 2: You know what I always loved Miss Congeniality is that 215 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 2: scene that you see her go home, like in the beginning, 216 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 2: in the first time, where you see her go home. 217 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 1: To a shithole, to a shithole. 218 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 2: She takes out a TV dinner, pokes holes in it 219 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:48,439 Speaker 2: with her fork, puts in the microwave, punches a little 220 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 2: punching bag, and sleeps in her shitty disgustings. 221 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 1: And her hair is like massy. 222 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 2: I say, filming I'm getting home scenes must be very difficult. 223 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 2: I have not had to do that, girl. 224 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 1: I think it would be easy, because you know, all 225 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 1: you have to do is channel how tired you are. 226 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 2: But I think it's so hard to like fake familiarity. 227 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 2: And this is just what I'm thinking, Like it's like, Okay, 228 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 2: I need to spend at least four days on this 229 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 2: apartment set, yeah, before we roll, because I need to. 230 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 2: I need to make this feel like. 231 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 1: You need to marry in the atmosphere. You're actually making 232 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 1: an incredible point about that scene. And I know she 233 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 1: is and I had never really thought of this before, 234 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:34,679 Speaker 1: but she is not discovering at all. She is totally 235 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 1: at home. There is no doubt that that shit box 236 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:41,719 Speaker 1: is her apartment. She is at home there. This is 237 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 1: why Sandra Bullock is being given the award that she's 238 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:49,200 Speaker 1: being given today by us, which is Sandra Bullock, you 239 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 1: are the Actress of the Millennium. 240 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 2: You will be awarding and honoring you at next year's 241 00:11:57,520 --> 00:11:59,359 Speaker 2: Last Cultures Culture Awards. 242 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 1: Be there, Sandra, you are the Actress of the Millennium. 243 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 1: And this is a developing story. 244 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 2: The way that woman carries herself. Oh yeah, what an 245 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 2: honor to be alive at the same time she is. 246 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 1: Babe. Let me tell you something. One word that doesn't 247 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 1: get said enough in this context. Gravity Gravity. We talked 248 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 1: about gravity all the time. Things might be falling down, 249 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 1: things might be falling down all around us. But I 250 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 1: want to hear the word gravity use more in context 251 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 1: with this film. Yes, it should be the number one 252 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 1: thing when you search gravity in Wikipedia. Should be this 253 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:37,080 Speaker 1: film and her performance, not what happens when you drop 254 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:38,440 Speaker 1: something from the air. 255 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 2: I want the tiktoks to be not about you know, 256 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 2: it's not like a video of some woman and then 257 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 2: it says gravity. Be like, yeah, woman goes, that's right, 258 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 2: put down for real, for real, real, for real if 259 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 2: you know you now. But I think that's one of 260 00:12:57,920 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 2: the funniest memes ever. 261 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 1: Men, not us being on this podcast being like, you 262 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 1: know what we're gonna talk about and spend energy on 263 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 1: memes and the Stanley Girl. I did not expect this 264 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 1: going on. Katies are eating this week. I have I 265 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 1: have an earth shattering and I don't think so, honey, 266 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 1: you do, yes, stay tuned to think that is still 267 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 1: to come, and we're gonna rank the tailor swift number 268 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 1: one hits. Wow. 269 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:31,319 Speaker 2: You literally don't know what's coming for you, all of you. 270 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 2: I'm looking at my sister. You don't know what's coming. 271 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:37,719 Speaker 1: It's like Sweeps. It's like November Sweep and it's like 272 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:39,719 Speaker 1: the trailers leading up to like a big moment. You 273 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 1: will never be the same. 274 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 2: I will I miss sweeps and sweeps culture. We wouldn't 275 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 2: have gone code black. 276 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 1: If a word for sweeps, there would not be any 277 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 1: of the most memorable episodes of any of these shows 278 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 1: had it not been for Sweeps. And that is sweeps culture. 279 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 1: Sweeps culture was TV culture, and that's rule of culture 280 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 1: Umber six. Sweeps culture was TV culture. I think. 281 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 2: I said this recently and it's staying with me. And 282 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 2: I hate to talk about work, but like you know, 283 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:13,679 Speaker 2: I was doing like final interviews for Dix and then 284 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 2: like people were asking me, like, oh my god, what 285 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 2: was Travis and Taylor like when they came Yesta No, 286 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 2: And my answer was like, you know what, it reminds 287 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 2: me that like live TV, lets you do things like that, Yeah, 288 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 2: and like really surprise people and like and I said, 289 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 2: quite literally, streaming could. 290 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 1: Never Yeah, you know what I mean, literally could never work. 291 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 2: So is it so crazy? I don't even watch Love 292 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 2: Is Blind anymore. But the fact that they couldn't get 293 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 2: that Live finale right, that Ritian right is so embarrassing. 294 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 2: I know it's been like a couple of years at 295 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 2: this point, or like a year and a half. That 296 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 2: is a huge embarrassment for Netflix. Oh yeah, anyway, not 297 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 2: to be. 298 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 1: No, I mean, like I think, and also not for nothing, 299 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 1: but you know what would have been a huge moment 300 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 1: if we had sweeps culture even like event dies television 301 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 1: culture anymore. The Aiden thing on and just like that 302 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 1: wouldn't have been really, the Samantha thing, this thing wouldn't 303 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 1: have been really And then those would have been moments 304 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 1: and we can never get those. No, it's sad, It's 305 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 1: really sad. 306 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, we're genuinely like, if I think too hard 307 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 2: about it, I'm like, I cry why hard? 308 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 1: First of all, can I say you literally, also, you 309 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 1: took a fall, You took a tumble, bo went hurt 310 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 1: his shoulder, and the circumstances, the circumstances are not necessarily important, 311 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 1: but he took a fall. I took a fall at work. 312 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 1: Let's just say that. 313 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 2: Let's just say there was a sketch where there's pandemonium 314 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 2: going on in the background and I was told to 315 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 2: run away and check Molly Carney in the shoulder, and 316 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 2: guess what happened. I spun into a fall. 317 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 1: You ever hear that done into a fall? Like I 318 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 1: was a damn fucking pinwheel? You know what? Though, at 319 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 1: least like if it had gone really wrong, yeah, I 320 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 1: could have gone much worse. The headline would have been 321 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 1: Bowen Yang spills into fall in your cell face all 322 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 1: for SNL sketch, mostly background role. I don't mind that. No, 323 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 1: I know there are no small parts. There are no 324 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 1: small parts. You say that every single day you call 325 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 1: me like, and you somehow work into every every conversation 326 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 1: we have, every single one. You say you know there's 327 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 1: no small part. I don't know. It applies to a 328 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 1: lot I I do incorporate into every conversation we have. Listen, 329 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 1: was there anything you want to say on this podcast 330 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 1: about the after party and the experience of being around 331 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 1: Lady Gaga? Because we said it in our ninety two 332 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 1: Street and why but we do not say here? Do 333 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 1: you want to tell the readers about something that happened 334 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 1: momentous in your life. 335 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 2: It was a momentous. I haven't even really processed it. 336 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 2: We even talked about this exact scenario a few episodes ago. Yes, 337 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:05,200 Speaker 2: this is me meeting the person that I cannot imagine 338 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:07,879 Speaker 2: meeting because I don't know how I would behave meeting. 339 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:15,119 Speaker 2: And interestingly, right now I know. So we're at the 340 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 2: meeting between Dress and Air. We're on the studio floor. 341 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 2: It's like two three hundred people who work there, all 342 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 2: listening to Lauren talk about the sketches that are making 343 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 2: it to air. Mine got cut, no problem. I was 344 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 2: totally fine with it. Actually, I was like, you know what, 345 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:31,920 Speaker 2: I don't need to have a little thing in this. 346 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 2: This is such a strong show for other people. It's 347 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 2: an amazing show overall. Anyway, lor goes and Lady Gaga 348 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 2: will be introducing the first song, and then I screamed, 349 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:46,400 Speaker 2: in my baggiest moment in my entire time working there. 350 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:52,439 Speaker 1: Lady Gaga. Everyone gassed, giggled, screamed. 351 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:58,880 Speaker 2: Lurne was like, well, she's not the Lady Gaga, She's 352 00:17:59,000 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 2: Lady Gaga. 353 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 1: Was like, I think he was just trying to you 354 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:01,640 Speaker 1: know what. 355 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:07,159 Speaker 2: Lauren loves to be a little little zinger. 356 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 1: He was like, she's not do Larry to Gars. Larry 357 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 1: Gar like basically say, I'm like, yeah, she's a normal girl. 358 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:14,639 Speaker 1: I know. 359 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 2: I think he was trying to like he was telling me, like, 360 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:21,880 Speaker 2: you're saying, Bowen, calm down, up, he's Meryl streetened out. 361 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:28,120 Speaker 1: He was saying, he's streeting. Sorry, go ahead, No, that's 362 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 1: and then later later I have doubts, no girl later 363 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 1: in the night when you met the girl, I thought 364 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:38,440 Speaker 1: he was saying, later later in the movie, what else 365 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:41,920 Speaker 1: was another line and say the rest of us, friend 366 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:47,400 Speaker 1: have to set doubts. Later she comes out, she introduces 367 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:47,920 Speaker 1: bad buddy. 368 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 2: She said, wait, are never yorco The reason why she 369 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:54,159 Speaker 2: did that is very clever and I can't really get 370 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:56,640 Speaker 2: into it. Yeah, but the reason she did that is genius. 371 00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. 372 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 2: Anyway, we go to the after party. Matt and I 373 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:04,920 Speaker 2: actually saw Titanice once with Bobby Campbell, her amazing, incredible manager, 374 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:10,119 Speaker 2: he's so lovely, and his partner Robert, and then Bobby 375 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:10,679 Speaker 2: grabs me. 376 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 1: Well, actually Bobby did not grab me. Was Robert who 377 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 1: grabs me. Robert's like, you have to meet Stephanie. I said, 378 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:22,680 Speaker 1: oh no, I literally was like, no, no response, No 379 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:23,680 Speaker 1: true your response. 380 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 2: I was like, oh no, that's okay. I really can't. 381 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 2: I wasn't even gawking at her, like she was sitting 382 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 2: in my eyeline, like from my table. I was like, 383 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:36,199 Speaker 2: I can't look at her. I can't like I can 384 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 2: acknowledge that she's here. I just this is really overwhelming. 385 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 2: But then Robert dragged me over in the nicest ways. 386 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 1: I will, but then. 387 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 2: I feel like I feel that feeling she was deep 388 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 2: in conversation with someone else, and then she says hello. 389 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:55,879 Speaker 2: She says it's so nice to meet you, and she 390 00:19:56,000 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 2: says you're so funny. I think she just like knew 391 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:01,400 Speaker 2: me as a cast member, but. 392 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, didn't really. She doesn't know that you stand, so. 393 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:06,400 Speaker 2: She doesn't know that I stand. So I don't think 394 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 2: she has ever clocked me being on the show other 395 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:12,680 Speaker 2: than that night. She had no idea what I was about. 396 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 2: In terms of her, Well. 397 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 1: She lives on Chromatica and she's been she's been Harley 398 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:18,680 Speaker 1: Quinn for about a year and a half, so she's 399 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:23,920 Speaker 1: been Lee Lee, Sorry Lee. And I immediately launched to 400 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:26,640 Speaker 1: the story that I told earlier about Lourene and I said, 401 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 1: oh my god, Gaga, my faggiest moment in my time 402 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:33,200 Speaker 1: working here, my six years working here, five years whatever. 403 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:35,879 Speaker 1: Basically told her that story, and I screamed to her 404 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 1: face in a crowded restaurant, and I screamed, Lady Gotta. 405 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 2: She kind of like gasped a little and then like 406 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:44,680 Speaker 2: kind of like looked around the restaurant in a way 407 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 2: that like wasn't she was being polite, she wasn't making 408 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:50,120 Speaker 2: it so conspicuous, but like I definitely felt self conscious, 409 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:52,640 Speaker 2: Like I was like, oh no, she giggled through it, 410 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:54,920 Speaker 2: was nervously laughing through it. But I was like, oh, 411 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:56,920 Speaker 2: I've actually made her uncomfortable. 412 00:20:57,000 --> 00:21:00,400 Speaker 1: You know what? Can I say? Yeah, that is good. 413 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 1: You made Lady Gaga uncomfortable. This woman turned into other people. Okay, 414 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 1: she is Lady Gogga who came down like a spider 415 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:13,959 Speaker 1: into the super Bowl. She is Lady Gaga, Patrizia Tria, 416 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 1: and she was shook by something that you did. Girl, 417 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 1: the way you are one of the most legendary icons. 418 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:28,439 Speaker 1: You shook Gaga, shook Gaga. That's true. I didn't think 419 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 1: of it that way. The title of that Gaga Shook. 420 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 2: Goga Shook I was Gaga shook in that moment, Gaga shook. 421 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:38,959 Speaker 1: I think it should be you shook Gaga. You shook Gaga. 422 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:42,640 Speaker 2: I didn't physically shake. I did not touch her besides 423 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 2: like a hug, and that was it. Yeah, that's good 424 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 2: that you made that clear. Well, so I guess the 425 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:48,879 Speaker 2: first moment was technically good nights when I hugged her 426 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 2: and that. 427 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 1: Oh so that was literally the first moment you hugged her? 428 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:53,200 Speaker 1: And then what were you thinking? What was happening? 429 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 2: I was like that experience that what just happened is 430 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,119 Speaker 2: on a lightning fast conveyor belt. 431 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 1: Let it go, don't grab it, don't think about it. Okay, okay, 432 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 1: I don't think that counts. No. 433 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 2: So then at the after party I sit next to 434 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:07,880 Speaker 2: her at our table for like fifteen minutes this she's 435 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 2: literally fully turned the other way, like talking to someone else. 436 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 1: But I was talking to. 437 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 2: Bobby and Roberts, and gosh, that was it. I was like, there, 438 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 2: I apologized her. I was like, I fully embarrassed her earlier. 439 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 2: She's like, no, you didn't, So I was like, oh, youkees, 440 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 2: that could have gone better. 441 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:25,400 Speaker 1: Listen, the rest is still unwritten. I think it's actually 442 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 1: one of the most beautiful lines in a song. I 443 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:30,680 Speaker 1: think that there is a great future, and I think 444 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 1: that what you have done is you've both shaken and 445 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 1: you've shaken her, but humanized yourself. And it's because you 446 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:40,399 Speaker 1: showed up honestly that night. Yes, my sister only shows 447 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 1: up as herself. She deserves zaccolades. That would never happen 448 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 1: with anyone else in the world. Do you know? We 449 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:53,119 Speaker 1: were supposed to be there, and Dave was kicking himself, 450 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 1: but we did have a fun time because his two 451 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,439 Speaker 1: favorite artists are in fact Bad Bunny and Lady Kaka. 452 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:00,640 Speaker 1: We were out of Long Island, were a fall Dad. 453 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:02,639 Speaker 1: Guys had a gorgeous fall day. We went to go 454 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:07,479 Speaker 1: see my parents. We we lost the family dog, Bailey, 455 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,359 Speaker 1: so that was a rough one for Richie and Trina 456 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 1: and you know, put the lighters in the air for Bailey, 457 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 1: who was fourteen and a half. She was a queen. 458 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 1: She was a queen and a legend. But reaching out 459 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:22,359 Speaker 1: to anyone out there that goes through like the loss 460 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:24,679 Speaker 1: of a pet, because it is tough. But we went 461 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,879 Speaker 1: out to see them. I took house Jared, Dave and 462 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 1: Dave and we went out and we had Pumpkin Beers 463 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:34,639 Speaker 1: girl and you know I crave him. And then we 464 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 1: went to a hunted escape room them to the film 465 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:42,879 Speaker 1: it on Long Island. Did you go into the damn sewer? Honey? 466 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:45,439 Speaker 1: What happened was we basically wore up in the sewer, 467 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:48,879 Speaker 1: and up in the sewer, little boy's jacket, his yellow 468 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 1: jacket was there, covered in blood. It was a hard 469 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 1: escape room and there was a live actor no as 470 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,920 Speaker 1: penny Wise, No no, so as if that wasn't enough terror. 471 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 1: And yes we did get out with I think seven man. 472 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:05,120 Speaker 1: It's the spare we got out penny Wise. Yeah, yeah, hon, 473 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:09,200 Speaker 1: they were han, I'm not getting solving no puzzle when 474 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 1: penny Wise is a foot away from me, one of 475 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:17,160 Speaker 1: film's scariest monsters and a front runner for that category 476 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 1: next year at the last Culture Races Culture Awards, because 477 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 1: penny Wise has been under rewarded at that ceremony and 478 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 1: it's time that we take accountability. 479 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:29,680 Speaker 2: Year three were breaking the terrible standards we've set for ourselves. 480 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 2: In years one and two. 481 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 1: The standards from before are no longer. The standards. The 482 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:40,959 Speaker 1: lost Culture is to Culture Awards are a dusty, stodgy institution, 483 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 1: used up, used up. We know it's rigged. It's time 484 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:47,359 Speaker 1: we change it. I have a feeling that if a 485 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:49,880 Speaker 1: celebrity says they're going to be on the show, they win. 486 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 1: What do you mean I think it's fixed. I think 487 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 1: that Matt and Bowen fix it. I think that they 488 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:57,639 Speaker 1: wait to see if a celebrities like I think that. 489 00:24:58,080 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 1: Do you think that they would have give Ariana Matter 490 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 1: the Coolest Girl Award if Ariana Grande had said that 491 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:05,360 Speaker 1: she would show up, what would they have done? Then 492 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:12,119 Speaker 1: that's hard fake. That's both of them. I hate them, 493 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 1: Matton Bowen, I hate them. They're so annoying faggots. They're 494 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 1: such friends. Where did we drift from? Oh? The Fall Day? 495 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:25,440 Speaker 1: So then after the Escape Room we went to in Hoppog, 496 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:28,920 Speaker 1: Long Island, New York. It was rated thirty ninth out 497 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 1: of all haunted attractions in the country, number one in 498 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:36,920 Speaker 1: New York. The Chambers of Hell, Girl, the Chambers of Hell? 499 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 1: Who did you see? 500 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 3: Girl? 501 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 1: Beelzebub basically her and a lot of her friends that 502 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 1: are no fun to be around. Sweetie the Incubi, the 503 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 1: Sucuby for everyone saying that I was skipping right to 504 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:53,879 Speaker 1: Christmas I want you to know I went to the 505 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:57,679 Speaker 1: Chambers of Hell for you so that I wouldn't skip Sorry, 506 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 1: but y'all's favorite holiday. I went into the Chambers of Hell. 507 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,360 Speaker 1: I'm not even kidding you. I've never experienced a walk 508 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 1: through haunted house like this. There was a point oh no, 509 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 1: where we had to get on our hands and knees 510 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,919 Speaker 1: and crawl under shit. Then I had to climb up 511 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 1: in like literally this it's like crawl spaces. The actors 512 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:21,639 Speaker 1: are dressed down, they're jumping, they're screaming, they're carrying on, 513 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 1: playing for team too much, chasing it's hell, girl. It 514 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,160 Speaker 1: was the Chambers of Hell, and there were three of them. 515 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:35,119 Speaker 1: This was a forty minute experience what we were so shook. 516 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 1: I swear to god, you were having a heart attack throughout. Kudos. 517 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 1: Can I bang the standing lay to them? Let's just 518 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 1: play the Stanley song for all the girls in the 519 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,359 Speaker 1: Chambers of El and Hotbog. We were so shook we 520 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,359 Speaker 1: had to eat. We went to Patricia's on Long Island. 521 00:26:55,800 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 1: It's an Italian restaurant where it's a party all like 522 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 1: a damn party. I swear to god. They were serving 523 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:08,680 Speaker 1: towers espress on martinis with sparklers on the top, and 524 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:13,680 Speaker 1: I said team too much. It was World champions. Yeah, 525 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,680 Speaker 1: watch out, Well I can think Whitney is more team 526 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 1: too much this season. Oh yeah, Whitney's. But anyways, so 527 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:23,439 Speaker 1: then we eat this vicious Italian meal, get them the 528 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 1: Long Island Railroad. We are full of cheese. I wake 529 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 1: up in the morning and at that point I was 530 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 1: not making it to snl. I wasn't taking my full 531 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:36,959 Speaker 1: of cheese body to go like, you know, wink at 532 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 1: bad Bunny from across the room. Right, you know what 533 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 1: I'm saying. Totally, But we wish we could have been 534 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 1: there with you, beloved. 535 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 2: It would have been such a fun shared moment. But 536 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 2: it was a nice night. 537 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 1: And we missed John on the island to slurping back 538 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:50,679 Speaker 1: pumpkin beers. Oh I wish I was. 539 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 2: I have not See The thing about this job is 540 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 2: I have not had a nice proper fall get away 541 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:56,680 Speaker 2: in so long. 542 00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 1: I know that. Remember that year we went to Tarry 543 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 1: Oh my god, of course that was revolutionary. And I 544 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:04,159 Speaker 1: mean we did the sleepy holl of Haunted House. That 545 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,200 Speaker 1: was so much fun. That was a little too Here's 546 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,199 Speaker 1: what I loved about this hunted house. That one was 547 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 1: really crowded, and the crowd it was like you could 548 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:13,440 Speaker 1: barely move the records. It got backed up. This one 549 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 1: they were doing like crowd control wo so that you 550 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 1: were really in every room by yourself with your party. 551 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 1: And I was like, give it up for production. 552 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, I get producing literally is thinking about the experience. 553 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 1: MetLife Stadium should talk to them about moving people through 554 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:29,959 Speaker 1: a space. 555 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:34,680 Speaker 2: There is no hope there and listen, no y'all listening. 556 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 2: If you live in the Tri State area. It's just 557 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 2: it's the worthiest investment ever to just get the party bus. Honey, honey, 558 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 2: that is the best money you will have ever spent. 559 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 1: Go online, find a bunch of people who are going, 560 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 1: especially if it's one of these big artists. You know, 561 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 1: there's big fan communities where you'd want to carpool and 562 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 1: go in on one of these buses. You can get 563 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 1: in and out and. 564 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 2: Then they guess what, they get to stay in the 565 00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 2: parking lot for the entire show, and then you just 566 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 2: go back to where you came from. And then these 567 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 2: huge vehicles plow through. 568 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:09,959 Speaker 1: The lines that are leaving zee. It's beautiful, beautiful, big 569 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 1: and bold is how you feel when you roll up 570 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 1: in the automobile. That's big. That one doesn't work as 571 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 1: well as a lot of my other songs. I disagree 572 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 1: with something about it in the beginning, and then I 573 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 1: don't know, girl, that's how you feel in the automobile. 574 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 1: That's how you feel in the automobile. There's something there. 575 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, what if we just did a gem sash? 576 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 1: What if you and I just wrote a fucking pop banger? Okay, okay, 577 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 1: we'll do it. Well, what's what mood are you in 578 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 1: right now? 579 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 2: I'm so awful and you feel awful because you're sick. 580 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 2: But I'm here with my friends, so maybe it's a 581 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 2: song about that. 582 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 1: I think that's definitely part of the texture. But like, 583 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 1: I feel like your emotion right now is like, yeah, 584 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 1: you know it's gonna be okay, but you really don't 585 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 1: feel good. And what do you think is the tempo? 586 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 1: If you could musically express how you feel? Mm hmm, 587 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 1: this is wonderful. And now just. 588 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 3: Oh, I have headache, but I'm with my girl, so 589 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 3: it's okay. 590 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 1: Another day in this world. Wait, this is good. Okay, 591 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 1: I have a head It's sort of like rolling in 592 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 1: the deep. Oh my God, I have headache, but I'm 593 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 1: with my girl, trying to hate it another day in 594 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:48,480 Speaker 1: this world. This is good, this song that is driving 595 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 1: through it keeping things are bad, like you know what 596 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 1: I mean? Like its helpless. It's a really hopeless song. 597 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 1: It is about rising up to do the podcast episode. 598 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 1: That's what it's about. It's about I know I'm sick, 599 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 1: but we need an episode this week. Right. I'm not 600 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 1: gonna let this stop me from doing my job and 601 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 1: get into the day. And that's what makes the song 602 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 1: connect to anyone listening. I will not let my circumstances 603 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 1: stop me from getting through this day. You will not 604 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 1: hold me down. Katie Perry needs to sing this. Katie. 605 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 1: It's Katie. We'll see you on your next album. Can 606 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 1: my label mate Capital Girl. That'll be easy to get 607 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 1: it over to her. Yeah? Is that how it works? 608 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 1: I think that it would be a lot easier to 609 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 1: work for someone on the same label. Yeah. Yeah, Troy 610 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 1: Sevon my label mate, let's discuss her. 611 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 2: I think this album is so sublime. I mean, it's 612 00:31:53,640 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 2: certainly this era of Troy just well done. A plus, confident, 613 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 2: comfortable songwriting, amazing production and swings. Swings the music videos 614 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 2: are unforgettable. Yeah, it feels like I'm in the damn 615 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 2: early odds. 616 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. The whole album, I mean, Honey is fantastic. 617 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 2: Honey is so good. I think it's called how to 618 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 2: Stay with You? The closing track. 619 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, what time is it where you are? I mean, like, 620 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 1: what time is it where you are? Wow, that has 621 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 1: gotten I've contributed to half of those plays. Yeah. I 622 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 1: think she's racking up streams and that's for sure. 623 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 2: Still, God, it is so good. Yeah, Oh silly got 624 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 2: me started. Yeah, it's all great. 625 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 1: And shout out to Brett Leland, who's like so fucking good. 626 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 2: So good, I mean, excellent album. We I think people 627 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 2: have been chomping at the bit for us to talk 628 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 2: about this album that we've been hyping for months and months. 629 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 1: Oh Chapel, Yeah, absolutely. We went to go see here 630 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 1: at Brooklyn Steel too. 631 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 2: I saw both the night you in Brooklyn and I 632 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 2: did not plan to and I have no regrets. 633 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 1: No, I mean that show was fucking fun. And also 634 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,480 Speaker 1: it's just I called it when I saw her back 635 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 1: earlier in the year. Her following it was twice as 636 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,760 Speaker 1: intense as it was then, and it's gonna keep growing 637 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 1: like this girl puts on a fun fucking show and 638 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 1: all of the songs translate live in a really powerful way. 639 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 1: No kidding. 640 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:22,560 Speaker 2: They hit on Tuesdays with people from work and they 641 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 2: get to go to these concerts for free and stuff 642 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:26,720 Speaker 2: because they sometimes they handle some of the bookings. 643 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 1: And one girl turns to me and goes, she's special. Yeah. 644 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 1: I was like, yes, oh my god, you connected the 645 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:37,280 Speaker 1: bookers of SNL to her show. That's made shows. I mean, 646 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 1: that's not me like. 647 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 2: On Saturday Live, like t went on an SNL or 648 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 2: when when like I'm gonna say, like Marin Morris, when 649 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 2: a SNL. It's like I love when SNL has like 650 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 2: a discovery oh. 651 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,000 Speaker 1: Back in the day, Like you could argue, we've discussed 652 00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 1: it on this pod, but like you could argue, Adele 653 00:33:56,600 --> 00:34:00,240 Speaker 1: became Adele because of her Saturday Night Live perform when 654 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 1: she did Chasing Pavements the same night. I believe that 655 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:08,120 Speaker 1: it was like the second time Tina fe was doing 656 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:08,840 Speaker 1: Sarah Pale. 657 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:10,960 Speaker 2: It was Josh Brolin and yeah, right, it was when 658 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:12,359 Speaker 2: Sarah Palin herself showed up. 659 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,360 Speaker 1: Oh that one, right, right, right, right right. 660 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:16,160 Speaker 2: And Adele has a funny story where she sees Sarah 661 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:17,440 Speaker 2: Palin in the hall and she goes. 662 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:22,960 Speaker 1: Tana, Yeah, like she thought that is you're saying that? Yeah, Like, 663 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 1: remember she won Best at the Grammys and that was 664 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:28,759 Speaker 1: Grammy voting time, I think, and like it was literally 665 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:32,640 Speaker 1: like that election year where everyone's eyes were turned to 666 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,239 Speaker 1: and then I remember, like she even says that she's 667 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:43,160 Speaker 1: like now and she she kind of says like that 668 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,879 Speaker 1: in that same exact voice I just did. That is 669 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 1: an amazing impression. The fact that I lost control of 670 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 1: my adele. I'm worthless. I should walk into the street 671 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:55,279 Speaker 1: and you think it's a requirement that you have in 672 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:57,719 Speaker 1: adele impression. It's the easiest accent to do in the world, 673 00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 1: and I'm world famous for it. You know what Cockney 674 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:02,120 Speaker 1: break it down? 675 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:04,880 Speaker 2: Well, it's like, you know how when you ask British 676 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,399 Speaker 2: people to do an American accent, or when you see 677 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,040 Speaker 2: a British person like an actor. 678 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,799 Speaker 1: Yea, and they go hi, y'all, hey, y'all, they go 679 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:15,960 Speaker 1: into like the most regionally chaotic Southern accent. You guys 680 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:19,240 Speaker 1: are so fucking chaotic. O We're in the UK, dude. 681 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:23,240 Speaker 2: I feel like the equivalent for us is doing Coffney 682 00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:24,319 Speaker 2: like that you know what I mean. 683 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:26,319 Speaker 1: I want one hundred percent I know what you mean. 684 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:30,040 Speaker 1: So it's like it's a very delicate accent to nail. 685 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:32,760 Speaker 1: So I'm sorry to Adele, and I'm sorry to myself 686 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,080 Speaker 1: for being so hard on myself about my adel and 687 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,960 Speaker 1: my therapist to be proud of me for saying apologizing 688 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:38,520 Speaker 1: to myself. 689 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:40,759 Speaker 2: Did she say recently, just another way to be cruel 690 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:43,600 Speaker 2: to yourself? Said, I love this, by the way I 691 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 2: talk about it. 692 00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, totally. I mean I was beating up on myself 693 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:51,160 Speaker 1: about I think I was nervous about the music coming up, 694 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 1: of course, and I was nervous about the music videos, which, 695 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 1: by the way, I'm so thrilled. Wasn't happy to do it, 696 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,840 Speaker 1: and everything has been incredible, but I stress out and 697 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:02,799 Speaker 1: I beat myself up, and she was just listening to me, 698 00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:04,560 Speaker 1: and she just takes a beat, and my therapist just 699 00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,800 Speaker 1: goes another way for you to be cruel to yourself, 700 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,440 Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, And then I actually laughed 701 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 1: because I was like, when you put it like that, 702 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:16,440 Speaker 1: it makes it sound almost like when it's so easily 703 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:20,279 Speaker 1: clocked by someone else, You're like, now it just feels like, well, now, 704 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,560 Speaker 1: that you'm boring and annoying for me to be like, 705 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:26,040 Speaker 1: it's beyond self awareness and it's like someone calling your therapist, 706 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:27,640 Speaker 1: calling you in and so that now you know, it's 707 00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 1: like in this external awareness that other people can clock it. 708 00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:32,839 Speaker 1: She just texted me your therapist. Yes, Oh my god, 709 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,200 Speaker 1: do we have a psychic connection? Oh? I asked for 710 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,800 Speaker 1: an emergency session this week and she just I said, 711 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:42,200 Speaker 1: she said nothing yet, Oh no, are you? Are you okay? 712 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,920 Speaker 1: Everything's fine? I think okay. Just to be totally real, like, 713 00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:49,120 Speaker 1: there was more attached to that song I just released 714 00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,040 Speaker 1: than just like it's a funny song, you know what 715 00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:54,200 Speaker 1: I mean, Like, yeah, I wrote that like sort of 716 00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:56,840 Speaker 1: to deal with what I was going through earlier in 717 00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:58,959 Speaker 1: the year. So I had a degree of anxiety about 718 00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:01,160 Speaker 1: it coming out, and when it came out and it 719 00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:04,400 Speaker 1: just brought things up. So I reached out to the 720 00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:07,960 Speaker 1: old therapist. It was the first time I ever like did. 721 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,480 Speaker 1: I think probably with you with Fire Island, you may 722 00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:12,040 Speaker 1: have felt this way, but like it's the first time 723 00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,880 Speaker 1: you feel like you give a little part of yourself 724 00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,600 Speaker 1: into a thing, because usually we just usually do like 725 00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,440 Speaker 1: sketches and characters and silly songs and stuff, and then 726 00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:22,480 Speaker 1: all of a sudden you actually show up in something 727 00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,920 Speaker 1: and it's like it's different, it's very strange. 728 00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I can't imagine what this feels like, because 729 00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:31,960 Speaker 2: would you say, this is the first thing you've put 730 00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:37,640 Speaker 2: out that has a significant degree of like, oh, this 731 00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:42,719 Speaker 2: is funny, yes, but like very me very diaristic, very. 732 00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:45,279 Speaker 1: Like it's the first thing I've successfully wrote about my 733 00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:48,480 Speaker 1: own pain. Oh, it's like and that that actually feels 734 00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:51,040 Speaker 1: like so cool, really cool, because I remember, like I 735 00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:52,800 Speaker 1: don't know how you feel. But sometimes I feel like 736 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:56,239 Speaker 1: the kind of writer that feels lame because I never 737 00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:59,239 Speaker 1: can really put on paper what I'm going through emotionally. 738 00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:02,080 Speaker 1: I can be funny and I can like explore like 739 00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:05,880 Speaker 1: comedic scenarios, but I've just never been good at like using, 740 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:09,480 Speaker 1: for lack of better term, like taking my broken heart 741 00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:11,319 Speaker 1: and making it into art like that. It's not a 742 00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:14,200 Speaker 1: thing for me. It's I usually create from joy. And 743 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:18,399 Speaker 1: I think when you are sad that makes it even 744 00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:20,600 Speaker 1: more frustrating because you're like, why do I feel all 745 00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:23,239 Speaker 1: these big fucking emotions and I can't do anything with 746 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,719 Speaker 1: them now? I feel pathetic. And then I'd bet a 747 00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:29,560 Speaker 1: shit out of myself because it feels like, yeah, sure, 748 00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:31,719 Speaker 1: like comedy is one thing, but then actually saying how 749 00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:34,680 Speaker 1: I feel. It's sometimes harder to funnel that into the 750 00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,759 Speaker 1: comedy without feeling you're trying too hard or you know, 751 00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:39,000 Speaker 1: getting in your own way. 752 00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:40,960 Speaker 2: You know, but you feel some obligation to be like 753 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,960 Speaker 2: in that moment, to be like creative, generative, whatever when 754 00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:45,000 Speaker 2: you're feeling sad. 755 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:47,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you can't, and that's frustrated you can't. So 756 00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:51,080 Speaker 1: this was the first time I ever successfully ended up 757 00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:53,560 Speaker 1: with something where I was like, I believe that says 758 00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:55,960 Speaker 1: something about what I went through. And also I stand 759 00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:58,520 Speaker 1: by comedically and as a song well comedic. 760 00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:01,280 Speaker 2: The comedy of it is so inseparable from the emotion 761 00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:05,319 Speaker 2: of it, which is like, Wow, I felt so many 762 00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:08,480 Speaker 2: things with you, the person you're saying to in the song, 763 00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:11,239 Speaker 2: but I don't really know that much about you, which 764 00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:14,399 Speaker 2: is such I'm gonna go as far as to say 765 00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:17,040 Speaker 2: that like it's a universal feeling and Yeh've all had 766 00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:17,720 Speaker 2: those people. 767 00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:22,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's about that thing that feels so big but 768 00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:25,200 Speaker 1: occupies such a moment, you know what I mean, And 769 00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:27,279 Speaker 1: then all of a sudden time does its thing where 770 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:30,000 Speaker 1: you like literally start to forget, and there is something 771 00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:33,719 Speaker 1: funny about that, like like when a star explodes, like 772 00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:36,960 Speaker 1: a big bang of emotion and then everything just starts 773 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,239 Speaker 1: to sort of settle, and then you're like, oh, wow, 774 00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:42,640 Speaker 1: I went through that, and I can't really say much 775 00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:46,560 Speaker 1: specifically about it because time just starts to do that 776 00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:48,920 Speaker 1: thing that they say is gonna make things better. But 777 00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:51,759 Speaker 1: then there's also something sad about it too, because you're like, 778 00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:55,160 Speaker 1: oh man, the specificity of it is going away. That's 779 00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:58,200 Speaker 1: also part of the heartbreak. So I guess that's like 780 00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:02,439 Speaker 1: the best distillation of how I'm feeling. How I feel 781 00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:05,880 Speaker 1: about the whole thing is that, Like it's worthy of 782 00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:10,239 Speaker 1: a song, but I've truly I can't say much specifically 783 00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:13,839 Speaker 1: about it. Yeah, but that thing makes the song right, 784 00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:17,640 Speaker 1: And that's really incredible that you took it a meta 785 00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:20,560 Speaker 1: layer above that and then you're like, this is what 786 00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:23,400 Speaker 1: the song that's about. It's excellent. It feels good to 787 00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:25,799 Speaker 1: create something that you think like says something about how 788 00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:29,759 Speaker 1: you feel. You know what I mean? Like that is girl, 789 00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:32,000 Speaker 1: when we get our. 790 00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:35,680 Speaker 2: Pens to paper, you know what, I can't quite tell 791 00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:37,920 Speaker 2: where I'm at in terms of talking about my own emotions. 792 00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:41,640 Speaker 2: I will say when I'm in therapy and I I 793 00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:45,319 Speaker 2: go off, I'm like, well, I should be writing every 794 00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:48,439 Speaker 2: word of this time because I'm writing a fucking I'm 795 00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:50,160 Speaker 2: writing like Jerry Maguire the movie too. 796 00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:52,600 Speaker 1: You know what I mean. You should be journaling. I 797 00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:55,520 Speaker 1: should be journal my journaling. It helps well. 798 00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:57,279 Speaker 2: I go back to meet some of my entries from 799 00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:00,239 Speaker 2: like last year, and I'm like, today was fine, went 800 00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:02,000 Speaker 2: to the gym, had a smoothie. 801 00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,680 Speaker 1: I'm like, this is so boding. Then maybe there's something 802 00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:07,480 Speaker 1: there and make fun of yourself like that. I mean, honestly, 803 00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:11,040 Speaker 1: that's kind of what ultimately everything you want song is 804 00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:13,640 Speaker 1: is like I literally sat down to like do this 805 00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:16,480 Speaker 1: earnest exercise of like what do I wish him for Christmas? 806 00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:19,520 Speaker 1: This year? I couldn't remember shit, and I was like, Okay, well, 807 00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:21,879 Speaker 1: I'm gonna drag myself. Wow, you know what I mean, 808 00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:25,040 Speaker 1: Like there's something. I think. It's just like you literally 809 00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:28,160 Speaker 1: just write those things down, not so that like it 810 00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:29,840 Speaker 1: can be something in the moment, but so that you 811 00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,680 Speaker 1: can have a reaction to it later. That's I think 812 00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:37,160 Speaker 1: something about writing I didn't realize or remember, but is something. 813 00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:43,880 Speaker 1: Writing is so hard. It's hard, Yeah, very difficult, especially 814 00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,400 Speaker 1: when you train yourself to think in a short form 815 00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:47,399 Speaker 1: again and again and again. 816 00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:51,360 Speaker 2: I would imagine, Well, I am always like so paralyzed 817 00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:54,240 Speaker 2: whenever the season's off at SNL. I'm like, I think 818 00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:57,279 Speaker 2: my creative process is a writing process at least is 819 00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:59,640 Speaker 2: like purely sight specific. 820 00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:01,239 Speaker 1: Like you're just you just feel like it's now when 821 00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:04,680 Speaker 1: you think writing, you think that type of specific. 822 00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:07,319 Speaker 2: Which I really need to start like untangling, because it's 823 00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:09,200 Speaker 2: like I can't be locked into this. I cannot have 824 00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:14,000 Speaker 2: the paralysis around this, around anything else because I'm always 825 00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:18,120 Speaker 2: used to this one way of posturing myself. But I'm 826 00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:21,520 Speaker 2: excited to work on longer form things in the future woo. 827 00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,080 Speaker 1: But also LOLBB, I'm like, you know what you should 828 00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:29,920 Speaker 1: do in journal? Like sorry, but as if I journal, Yeah, 829 00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:31,600 Speaker 1: I have journal, That's all I'm saying. 830 00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:33,760 Speaker 2: I hit a plateau with it, like over the summer. 831 00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:34,960 Speaker 2: I was like, this isn't really helping me. 832 00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:38,040 Speaker 1: Mm hmm. So I have been off of that ah 833 00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:41,279 Speaker 1: and it's been fine. Well, you're spinning yourself out. It 834 00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:43,280 Speaker 1: just felt like I made. 835 00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:45,080 Speaker 2: It feel like such a chore because it was on 836 00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:47,200 Speaker 2: like my checklist of things to do every day. 837 00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:47,759 Speaker 1: M hmm. 838 00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:50,640 Speaker 2: And I always came with such a weird attitude around. 839 00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:52,879 Speaker 2: I was like, this is compulsory, like I don't really 840 00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:55,319 Speaker 2: want to do this. Instead that kind of like it's 841 00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:56,080 Speaker 2: just waste of time. 842 00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:58,160 Speaker 1: Time. Can I ask you a question? Were you typing it? 843 00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:00,480 Speaker 1: Typing it? You have to write it and then it 844 00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:03,440 Speaker 1: will feel so much easier and actually more fun. And 845 00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:04,880 Speaker 1: when you feel like you have to sit down and 846 00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:08,160 Speaker 1: type something, I think there's this message you sent to yourself, 847 00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:09,960 Speaker 1: which is it has to be a thing and long. 848 00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:12,240 Speaker 1: Right now. I never think I can just like jot 849 00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:15,280 Speaker 1: something down typing, But when I write, I can write 850 00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:17,880 Speaker 1: just like a couple sentences down and then put it 851 00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:20,759 Speaker 1: down and then news for you when you add to 852 00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:23,400 Speaker 1: that later you are writing something totally or you're just 853 00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:26,480 Speaker 1: collecting whatever it is. But like your process, I think, 854 00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:29,960 Speaker 1: take it out of the computer, girl, Where do you 855 00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:35,040 Speaker 1: think you go to the damn notebook with a pen? Girl? 856 00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:37,080 Speaker 1: You want to do? I don't think so, honey, And 857 00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:40,120 Speaker 1: you know it is time. I'm so sorry. I'm feeling 858 00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:42,800 Speaker 1: really sick. The first thing we have to do before 859 00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:45,800 Speaker 1: we do that, because we promised is rank Taylor Swift's 860 00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:47,319 Speaker 1: top ten number ones, and I'm going to do it 861 00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:49,400 Speaker 1: really quickly so you don't have to because you're going 862 00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:51,359 Speaker 1: to agree with me when I say it. Number one 863 00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:53,799 Speaker 1: is all too well ten minute version. Number two is 864 00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:57,920 Speaker 1: plank Space. Number three is cruel Summer. Number four is Willow. 865 00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:00,840 Speaker 1: Number five is look what you made me do. Number 866 00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:03,359 Speaker 1: six you've already done. This is we are never ever 867 00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:07,319 Speaker 1: getting back together. Number seven is you think that's worse 868 00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:09,000 Speaker 1: than Look what you made me do? Oh after the movie? 869 00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:13,040 Speaker 1: You rank it about that? Yeah? Sorry? Number seven is 870 00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:16,960 Speaker 1: stop you're losing me. That's not me saying that one, 871 00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:20,680 Speaker 1: but I'm losing What it is, it's we should know that, 872 00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:28,240 Speaker 1: go shake it off, Shake it off. Then it's bad Blood. 873 00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:35,319 Speaker 1: Then it's Cardigan. That's only nine. I'm forgetting one, but 874 00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:37,640 Speaker 1: that's okay. I think you got all of them. No 875 00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:40,480 Speaker 1: I didn't because I only had nine fingers raised anti 876 00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:43,480 Speaker 1: hero anti hero? Okay, then put anti hero in between 877 00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:46,560 Speaker 1: look what you made me do? And you're never getting 878 00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:49,560 Speaker 1: back together and we're never ever going that low. I 879 00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:52,959 Speaker 1: think that. I think that's one of her most incredible songs. 880 00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:56,040 Speaker 1: It's better than all too well ten and version blank Space, 881 00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:58,879 Speaker 1: Cruel Summer and then what did you do between Cruel 882 00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:01,880 Speaker 1: Summer and Willow? But that's personal to me. Oh, I 883 00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:04,279 Speaker 1: do love Willow. Willow is that girl. And when she 884 00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:08,760 Speaker 1: came out with those orbs and said, wait for this signal, 885 00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:17,239 Speaker 1: n O me you after dark, I'm gonna put that 886 00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:19,200 Speaker 1: below will I'm gonna put anty here below Willow better 887 00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:20,239 Speaker 1: than Look what do you mean me do? Is that 888 00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:22,799 Speaker 1: the ranking? You have seen the Aerostor movie. I know 889 00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:26,400 Speaker 1: you have, and you still want to do that. You 890 00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:28,200 Speaker 1: still won't Look what you made me do to be 891 00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:31,960 Speaker 1: that loud after you saw the Aerostar movie and you 892 00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:35,359 Speaker 1: saw the slagage and the carnage pop carnage. 893 00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:39,320 Speaker 2: I think that's an amazing production moment in the concert. 894 00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:42,200 Speaker 1: I respect your sister, sister, And do you understand what 895 00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:44,560 Speaker 1: I'm saying I do now? Honest? Are we ranking them 896 00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:48,520 Speaker 1: by song quality? Girl? Yes? And I understand now I 897 00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:49,279 Speaker 1: think I do. 898 00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:51,439 Speaker 2: I admire Look what Jimimi do because it is such 899 00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:53,319 Speaker 2: a swing and she was like, bucket, this is my 900 00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:57,200 Speaker 2: first single. It's I'm basically doing right, said Fred unto Sexy, 901 00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:01,400 Speaker 2: who fucking cares? I think that's actually so so amazing. 902 00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:02,880 Speaker 1: It's literally so amazing. 903 00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:05,239 Speaker 2: Like I'm one of the best songwriters. I'm the best 904 00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:09,359 Speaker 2: songwriter my generation. I'm putting this fucking crazy ass song 905 00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:09,799 Speaker 2: out there. 906 00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:13,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, for my like No Press Vengeance album, Don't Talk 907 00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:17,960 Speaker 1: to Me album, Taylor, Way to Go, Way to Go. 908 00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:28,160 Speaker 1: This is I don't think so Honey. It's where we 909 00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:30,759 Speaker 1: take one minute to rants rail and more against something 910 00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:34,480 Speaker 1: in Colaster that we absolutely want to drag, discredit and more. 911 00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:37,680 Speaker 1: I have something that is actually based on my evening 912 00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:42,040 Speaker 1: at Patrizia's. It references something that I discussed earlier, and 913 00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:44,360 Speaker 1: I think this one's going to be tough, especially for 914 00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:46,080 Speaker 1: the katies. But I have to say this because I 915 00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:47,960 Speaker 1: feel it. Oh oh, this is Matt Ronders. I don't 916 00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:49,719 Speaker 1: think so Honey as ten starts now, I don't think 917 00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:53,240 Speaker 1: so Honey Espressomarzini's. I'm sorry. I think that the moment 918 00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:56,600 Speaker 1: burnt bright. Yeah, but I think that moment has passed. 919 00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:58,960 Speaker 1: I think that it's now gotten out of control because 920 00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:02,279 Speaker 1: I don't think so Honey, an espresso martini before your 921 00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:05,680 Speaker 1: meal unless that meal is gonna be like also some 922 00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:10,080 Speaker 1: kind of dessert. You are absolutely ruining your palette. I 923 00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:13,040 Speaker 1: don't think so, honey, that you can really enjoy, like, 924 00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:17,080 Speaker 1: for example, at an Italian place like chicken parmesan after 925 00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:20,280 Speaker 1: an espresso martini. I'm sorry, I don't think so, honey. 926 00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:23,719 Speaker 1: I want to throw up when I think about that combination. 927 00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:30,120 Speaker 1: And you will see these girls sucking down espresso martinis 928 00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:35,280 Speaker 1: with meals and ruining their dinners. Meanwhile, post dinner. Fine, 929 00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:37,680 Speaker 1: but as a cultural moment, we've moved on from just 930 00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:39,920 Speaker 1: post dinner drinks. And also, you can't use it in 931 00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:42,040 Speaker 1: the place of a red Bull anymore. I don't think so, honey, 932 00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:46,000 Speaker 1: because culturally now we're confused. We've let espresso martini go 933 00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:48,440 Speaker 1: too far. It's time to go back to Redville. And 934 00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:51,600 Speaker 1: if you're this type of girl, cocaine, I don't think 935 00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:53,680 Speaker 1: so amazing now. 936 00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:56,560 Speaker 2: I want to say that, don't do cocaine. Don't do 937 00:47:56,640 --> 00:48:01,319 Speaker 2: cocaine like an espresso. This peaked an amazing but it 938 00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:02,040 Speaker 2: is no crashing. 939 00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:04,439 Speaker 1: I don't really know what's set. 940 00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:06,680 Speaker 2: You're saying that we as a culture have moved on 941 00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:07,880 Speaker 2: from post dinner drinks. 942 00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:11,480 Speaker 1: No, I'm saying we as a culture can't handle espressal martini. 943 00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:14,040 Speaker 1: This is why we can't have nice things because they've 944 00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:17,239 Speaker 1: moved too far beyond being a post dinner drink to 945 00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:20,799 Speaker 1: like give us a second win, like now culturally, like 946 00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:25,120 Speaker 1: I see them at all hours of the day. And 947 00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:29,359 Speaker 1: also there's this crazy thing happening and Jessel, I love 948 00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:32,840 Speaker 1: you girl. But earlier in the season of Rony, my Girl, 949 00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:37,279 Speaker 1: My Diva, Jessel tank, I am a tank top. She 950 00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:42,160 Speaker 1: ordered a espresso martini with tequila. Oh, I do remember that. 951 00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:44,359 Speaker 2: That was when I didn't really wasn't a big fan 952 00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:45,640 Speaker 2: of hers anyway. 953 00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:47,680 Speaker 1: And now I look back and I'm like, go off, 954 00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:53,319 Speaker 1: queen with your weird ass cocktail. But no, no, no, no, no, no, 955 00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:55,799 Speaker 1: we can't be trusted with this anymore. We can't. Did 956 00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:57,319 Speaker 1: you watch the Me Union last name? I have to 957 00:48:57,320 --> 00:49:00,360 Speaker 1: tell you I didn't, but I will. But I heard 958 00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:02,920 Speaker 1: that it was boring, and that's making it hard to like. 959 00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:05,360 Speaker 1: It's only in two parts. It's only in two parts, 960 00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:07,480 Speaker 1: and the first part, you would say, was kind of boring. 961 00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:10,319 Speaker 2: Pretty boring, although there are interesting dynamics happening where you 962 00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:14,160 Speaker 2: can clearly see it's so obvious that Si and Aaron 963 00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:17,359 Speaker 2: have come into that union being like a week came 964 00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:20,920 Speaker 2: off really bad. Yeah, but then Sigh of course is 965 00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:23,279 Speaker 2: fucking insufferable and does this thing where she's like, I'm 966 00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:25,320 Speaker 2: taking full accountability and I'm sorry Brandon for what I 967 00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:27,919 Speaker 2: said to you, and I'm sorry Jessel for what I said. 968 00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:30,120 Speaker 2: Blah blah blah, I'm sorry. I'm taking full accountability. And 969 00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:33,960 Speaker 2: then the within her next breath is like, but also 970 00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:37,000 Speaker 2: like I was right, and your husband's cheating on you 971 00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:39,719 Speaker 2: and blah blah blah, no one suffered more than me 972 00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:42,400 Speaker 2: all this shit. Aaron does the same thing. She has 973 00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:45,400 Speaker 2: a tearful moment out of nowhere about being the older sister, 974 00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:51,080 Speaker 2: the eldest sister. Fucking Jenna starts sobbing ten minutes and 975 00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:52,360 Speaker 2: it was a weird one. 976 00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:56,560 Speaker 1: But I heard Uba was kind of acting. Uba was 977 00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:59,880 Speaker 1: misunderstanding things. I did not understand what. 978 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:05,640 Speaker 2: But to bring to that scenario was like totally derailing 979 00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:08,480 Speaker 2: a conversation that Andy was starting and where like everyone 980 00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:10,319 Speaker 2: would be like, what are you talking about? Yeah, it 981 00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:13,640 Speaker 2: was not great, and then it ends with sign Jessel 982 00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:15,560 Speaker 2: and then like Jessel came off great, Andessel is a 983 00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:16,520 Speaker 2: great moment where. 984 00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:18,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, she looks good next to Andy, he looks. 985 00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:20,080 Speaker 2: Good next to Andy, but then sigh in one of 986 00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:23,520 Speaker 2: her like you know moments. Her her words silence was like, 987 00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:27,239 Speaker 2: I apologize. I should have never commented on your marriage. 988 00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:29,120 Speaker 2: I don't think you and your husband have a connection, 989 00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:30,520 Speaker 2: but I should never comment on someone's ma And the 990 00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:32,000 Speaker 2: JUSTL was like, you just did. 991 00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:33,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, unbelievable. 992 00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:34,920 Speaker 2: And but the way Jessell does it is like, well 993 00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:36,880 Speaker 2: you're fucking stupid. 994 00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:40,000 Speaker 1: It was great. I think Justll clear winner, I shouldn't 995 00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:42,640 Speaker 1: have said anything. I apologize for saying so. I don't. 996 00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:45,040 Speaker 1: I don't think you and your husband have a connection, 997 00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:48,560 Speaker 1: but I'm sorry. I shouldn't have said anything. But I 998 00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:51,799 Speaker 1: don't think you and your husband have a connection. But 999 00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:54,640 Speaker 1: I shouldn't be commenting on your marriage. Well you just did. 1000 00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:57,120 Speaker 1: Can I ask? What do you think it is about 1001 00:50:57,239 --> 00:51:00,239 Speaker 1: Sy that stops her from being a villain we love 1002 00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:02,840 Speaker 1: and is making her more of a villain that we're irritated? 1003 00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:03,600 Speaker 1: Not funny? 1004 00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:07,200 Speaker 2: She actually Hunter Harris is actually talking about this in 1005 00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:13,680 Speaker 2: her substack. Like Brandon and Jenna have style, Cy has brands. Yes, 1006 00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:16,319 Speaker 2: I doesn't really. I don't think she like knows how 1007 00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:17,280 Speaker 2: to dress herself. 1008 00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:20,440 Speaker 1: I will say I think she always looks amazing, But 1009 00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:23,440 Speaker 1: you're right, it might be for the reasons you're saying, 1010 00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:26,840 Speaker 1: because I think that there's a lack of like individuality 1011 00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:28,160 Speaker 1: in what she brings. 1012 00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:31,520 Speaker 2: And well, she was harping on the same things all season. 1013 00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:34,279 Speaker 2: The food, Yeah, her mother, which is of course the 1014 00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:36,520 Speaker 2: tragic thing, but like constantly bringing it up as a 1015 00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:39,080 Speaker 2: way to like put down other people, so bizarre. 1016 00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:42,399 Speaker 1: I wonder if she feels really embarrassed about the food thing. 1017 00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:46,840 Speaker 1: I'm sure because it's really it got really diring. 1018 00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:49,440 Speaker 2: Well, you can tell that she is someone who embarrassment 1019 00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:52,920 Speaker 2: is adjoined to anger, Like when she like in the 1020 00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:53,480 Speaker 2: finale and she. 1021 00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:56,480 Speaker 1: Was like lash out, like she lashes out when. 1022 00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:59,160 Speaker 2: She when she's been caught in something, she fucking explodes, 1023 00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:02,600 Speaker 2: And you're like, yikes, that is not something that anyone 1024 00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:04,480 Speaker 2: likes to see on TV from any gender, you know 1025 00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:05,959 Speaker 2: what I mean. I don't think it's like a oh 1026 00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:08,440 Speaker 2: or she's a woman, she's not a lot to be angry. 1027 00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:10,480 Speaker 2: She's a woman of color. I think it literally is 1028 00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:12,680 Speaker 2: something that like that's not fun on reality television. 1029 00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:16,960 Speaker 1: I think it just needs to feel like justified and 1030 00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:20,880 Speaker 1: it's just she got so here's my thing. I literally 1031 00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:24,920 Speaker 1: I don't even dislike her. I think they're all figuring out. 1032 00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:26,840 Speaker 1: I don't know why I have like a compassion for 1033 00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:29,520 Speaker 1: this cast. Maybe it's because I'm doing their Bravo Con 1034 00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:32,840 Speaker 1: panel and I'm really trying to because I'm no, I 1035 00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:34,719 Speaker 1: think what it is it's not even about fair is. 1036 00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:37,640 Speaker 1: I'm just really trying to see the best in all 1037 00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:39,840 Speaker 1: of them. That's because I'm trying not to make a 1038 00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:42,240 Speaker 1: decision about one of them before I like go into 1039 00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:44,520 Speaker 1: this thing where I have to like, you know, talk 1040 00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:47,160 Speaker 1: with all of them, et cetera. But I will say 1041 00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:50,799 Speaker 1: it is tough with side because it's that thing of 1042 00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:54,080 Speaker 1: like her behavior just isn't very grounded. Yeah, and I 1043 00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:56,759 Speaker 1: just you know, it could be the editing, but like 1044 00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:59,560 Speaker 1: it's just you can't really fake it. That's such a 1045 00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:00,399 Speaker 1: rooky move. 1046 00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:03,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, for her, It's both sign Aaron being on, like 1047 00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:06,480 Speaker 2: the Bravo Instagram commenting being like stay tuned for the 1048 00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:08,640 Speaker 2: beginning and the editing did as dirty blah blah blah, 1049 00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:11,880 Speaker 2: and then like people dragging them in the Yeah, I 1050 00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:14,200 Speaker 2: had to get in there and be like, girl, you're 1051 00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:17,800 Speaker 2: not cut out for this. I really don't think Aaron 1052 00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:19,440 Speaker 2: is cut out for reality television. 1053 00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:22,400 Speaker 1: She seems very sensitive in a way where it's like 1054 00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:24,680 Speaker 1: it's fine, it's not like a yeah, it's just sensitive. 1055 00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:27,080 Speaker 1: If you're able to dish it out, you have to 1056 00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:29,280 Speaker 1: be able to take it. And it seems like taking 1057 00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:31,799 Speaker 1: it for her means like full meltdown in a way 1058 00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:34,120 Speaker 1: where it's like, Okay, cute. We can watch that, for sure, 1059 00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:36,720 Speaker 1: we can adjust to that. I just it's not clear 1060 00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:39,440 Speaker 1: at the end of it, like and I think their 1061 00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:41,759 Speaker 1: first season and second season, for better or worse are 1062 00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:44,319 Speaker 1: going to be very different because these women now have 1063 00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:46,680 Speaker 1: been in the machine and the cooker, which is why 1064 00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:48,440 Speaker 1: I don't think we should get rid of any of them. 1065 00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:50,719 Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna double down on this. We keep 1066 00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:52,960 Speaker 1: them all and bring in Leah. I think that is 1067 00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:55,279 Speaker 1: the best move, if Lee even wants to do it right. 1068 00:53:55,400 --> 00:54:00,879 Speaker 1: But start the campaign anyway. Espresso Martini's I'm just noticing 1069 00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:04,080 Speaker 1: it's excess, That's all I'm saying. Bowen, do you haven't? 1070 00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:06,160 Speaker 1: I don't think so any topic, Yes you do. You 1071 00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:07,960 Speaker 1: said it was going to be a barn burner, and 1072 00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:11,720 Speaker 1: this is the moment we've all been waiting for. Bowen 1073 00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:15,279 Speaker 1: Yang your I don't think so honey, time starts now. 1074 00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:19,240 Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. The word earnestness. Why aren't 1075 00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:24,160 Speaker 1: you earnesty? Why aren't you earnesty? The English language is 1076 00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:27,080 Speaker 1: a lie, y'all. We are breaking the lang. I just 1077 00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:30,239 Speaker 1: broke the language. Earnesty is not a word, but it 1078 00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:31,000 Speaker 1: should be right. 1079 00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:35,160 Speaker 2: It's not honestness, it's honesty, and honesty is the word 1080 00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:38,480 Speaker 2: that is the most important, not earnest ness, and therefore 1081 00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:42,640 Speaker 2: honesty should set the model for earnesty. We need to 1082 00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:47,600 Speaker 2: write legislation to make earnesty a word in America at least. 1083 00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:49,719 Speaker 2: I don't want to speak for other countries, for other 1084 00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:53,719 Speaker 2: countries that speak English, but in America it should be earnesty. 1085 00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:55,839 Speaker 2: That is something that we can all get behind. It's 1086 00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:57,480 Speaker 2: a bipartisan effort. 1087 00:54:57,400 --> 00:55:01,479 Speaker 1: That will pass fifty Let contrarian out there and being 1088 00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:04,240 Speaker 1: fucking oh it's earnestness, blah blah blah. 1089 00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:06,200 Speaker 2: No, I don't want to hear from you. You should not 1090 00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:08,319 Speaker 2: participate in our democracy. 1091 00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:10,920 Speaker 1: You should only vote if you think the words should 1092 00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:15,520 Speaker 1: be earnesty, because otherwise the English language is a fucking grift. 1093 00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:17,960 Speaker 1: And that's one minute. I have to say. There's another 1094 00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:21,200 Speaker 1: example of this, which is it's not jealousness. It's not 1095 00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:28,759 Speaker 1: just jealousy that you add a y to the word honesty. Jealousy, Earnesty, 1096 00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:33,960 Speaker 1: it's not irons, it's irony. It's irony. I don't like 1097 00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:41,640 Speaker 1: on any word. No, oh, you just watching people bowen. 1098 00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:45,839 Speaker 1: Just literally physically, you were like Yoda at the end 1099 00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:49,759 Speaker 1: of I think it's what he's done. He does, and 1100 00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:52,280 Speaker 1: I think empires are spelled yeah, yeah, no, no, no, 1101 00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:55,680 Speaker 1: he does Jedi. Yeah, you literally just did that his 1102 00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:56,600 Speaker 1: final breath. 1103 00:55:57,560 --> 00:56:00,880 Speaker 2: I was gonna say, I looked like I look like 1104 00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:04,280 Speaker 2: anytime rogue would like touch someone. 1105 00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:06,760 Speaker 1: You need a moment of like coming back together, because 1106 00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:12,240 Speaker 1: you spent all your energy on that one. I agree 1107 00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:14,279 Speaker 1: with you, sister, Earnesty down. 1108 00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:17,880 Speaker 2: Earnesty, Earnestness don't sound right, That's all I'm saying. 1109 00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:22,960 Speaker 1: Ness offends you. Ness is so gross. Get out of here, nessy, 1110 00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:28,840 Speaker 1: get out of here. Fucking well. This has been I 1111 00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:32,080 Speaker 1: think a very healing episode. Your energy seems much lighter 1112 00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:34,080 Speaker 1: and better now than when I came in and I 1113 00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:37,680 Speaker 1: thought you were dead man walking sister with the lights 1114 00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:44,840 Speaker 1: start low. I'm gonna get better. I guess we should 1115 00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:50,240 Speaker 1: end every episode with a song. Soon you good, better, 1116 00:56:52,840 --> 00:57:01,520 Speaker 1: Soon you get better, You're get better, m H, could 1117 00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:06,040 Speaker 1: you have to? For more on that? Listen to and 1118 00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:12,400 Speaker 1: You'll Get Better featuring the checks off the album Love Bye,