1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 1: Morning. Well brings me great sorrow to think this is 2 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 1: the last one of the off season. You just talked 3 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: about what you accomplished this week in minicamp and why 4 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:17,280 Speaker 1: was reduced. Yeah, definitely. I think the biggest thing is, 5 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 1: you know, you have a starting line in the finish line. 6 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:21,919 Speaker 1: I just felt like we crossed the finish line, you know, 7 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 1: particularly with the veterans um. And really today's focus was 8 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 1: just really spending final time with the rookies. You know, 9 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 1: they had their opportunities to to get the final lifting 10 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 1: for this week, UM, and just from that to spend 11 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:38,880 Speaker 1: a bunch of individual time with the with the coordinators 12 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: and assistant coaches, and really frankly focused on the five 13 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: week plan. That's what's in front of them. So everything 14 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:48,160 Speaker 1: we wanted to accomplish in the off season was completed, 15 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 1: and you know, really the focus turns to their individual 16 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 1: five week plan. You know, basically to hit the championship conditioning. 17 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 1: You need to answer that mil was there, you clars, 18 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 1: we can hold it. We can hold this thing up. 19 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 1: I mean, signs important. Micky know, I think yeah, I 20 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 1: can step out. I mean, but uh, you know, five 21 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 1: weeks and what's in front of them. And frankly just 22 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 1: you know, not only get ready physically, but emotionally and 23 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 1: fill up their tank for what's in front of them 24 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 1: and mentally keep their you know, keep their keep their 25 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:27,680 Speaker 1: eyes on their iPad. Let you go yesterday and you 26 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:30,559 Speaker 1: just workers here today. I'm sorry the veteran's here today 27 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:32,639 Speaker 1: as well, just working the veteran. I mean there's veterans 28 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:34,559 Speaker 1: have been in here. You know, I'm catching a lift. 29 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 1: But no, the veterans were excused after the group dynamic 30 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:42,319 Speaker 1: event yesterday. How was yesterday's a event? Hit the ball? Well, 31 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:45,040 Speaker 1: actually I was. I felt good. It felt good out there. 32 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 1: Four was working I recommended at top Golf. Just hit 33 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 1: it straight, you get some points, was the plan. Um. 34 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 1: Curious to see how it how it shakes out. But no, 35 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 1: it's fun. We have something. I really haven't spend much 36 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 1: time there, um, but I know the players really enjoyed it, 37 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 1: just the way we know coordinated everything and the interaction, 38 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 1: and you know, we had the officials uh join us. 39 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 1: I don't think we're gonna have calls, but it's uh, 40 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: it was a good day. So it's clearly one of 41 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 1: the better ones I've been a part of. Talk a 42 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 1: lot about I want to practice outside a lot and 43 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 1: he has the weather earlier in the camp, Well, awesome. 44 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 1: Did you get outside of the the um And that's a 45 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: great question. I think you can never get outside enough. 46 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 1: You know, wind was really a challenge this year, you know, 47 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 1: more than the heat. I mean, the heat's never really 48 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 1: you know, hopefully it doesn't doesn't you know, keep us 49 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 1: from going outside. I just think, you know, particularly you know, 50 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 1: with our setup. You know, when you you know, you 51 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 1: get up eighteen nineteen twenty mile in our winds, it's 52 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 1: just it's a bit kind of productive. So but yeah, 53 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:46,800 Speaker 1: I think you know, going to ox and Ards, you know, 54 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: I think we're very fortunate to have that as a 55 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 1: training you know, a training camp area. UM love the 56 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:54,519 Speaker 1: weather out there. I think, you know, as far as 57 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 1: your ability to challenge and stretch your team out, which 58 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:58,920 Speaker 1: you need to get done in training camp. You know, 59 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 1: obviously our time winds are in place, you know, as 60 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 1: far as the CBA rules, but Auxner gives you that opportunity, 61 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 1: you know, I think going up to Denver and spending 62 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 1: our next a couple of days up for practicing and 63 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 1: you know in the male high climate will will be 64 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 1: another nice factor and then the competitive work down there 65 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: in Irvine will be another opportunity. So I feel good 66 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 1: about our plan um and looking forward to that. What's 67 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: your message to the team when they have this time 68 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:28,119 Speaker 1: off between now and start training camp? Well, he break 69 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 1: we break it down. I mean, you know, from the 70 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: first eighty off season program. You know, we have our 71 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 1: timeline and what we wanted to get done, and you 72 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 1: know season program and you know this this next this 73 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 1: next segment is five five weeks of their individual plans. 74 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 1: So I mean there's you know, most guys are staying here. 75 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 1: I mean when we're very fortunate to have an incredible 76 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: training facility and you know, the love of the city 77 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 1: of Dallas, so um, just more people will be here 78 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 1: in Townton. I think I can I can recall in 79 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 1: my time, you know, in this league over the last 80 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 1: three decades, so uh, and that's and that's a great 81 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 1: you know that that's a great way to go. So 82 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: they won't be too far away. And you know, you know, 83 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: I think today with the coaches having the extra time 84 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 1: to spend with the rookies in their one on one, 85 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 1: we feel really good about every guy's individual plan important 86 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:17,719 Speaker 1: Basically your experience and group bay. We have the players 87 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:19,840 Speaker 1: to come over to your house and he like Olympics 88 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 1: are these group dynamic events and how much do you 89 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: feel like that was in this Durien Oh, I think 90 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 1: normality is very important in developing relationships and genuineness of 91 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:35,160 Speaker 1: you know, understanding and appreciating each other. So I think 92 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:38,040 Speaker 1: it goes a long way. Um, when you look at culture, 93 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:41,160 Speaker 1: you look at relationship development, and you see when you 94 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:44,159 Speaker 1: look at people that are particularly excellent at that in 95 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 1: their profession. Uh, it's something that doesn't show up in 96 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 1: a box score and it's hard to put a numerical 97 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 1: value on that. And it's you know, something that I 98 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:56,719 Speaker 1: think you have to recognize through experience and continue to 99 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 1: try to grow. I mean, group dynamics is something that 100 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 1: we're you know, the growth through group dynamics to improve 101 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:06,480 Speaker 1: your culture. There's something every team is after and it's 102 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:09,040 Speaker 1: clearly taken the time to develop it. You want it 103 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 1: to be as organic as possible. So I think you're 104 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 1: gonna watch. I think you've got to watch try not 105 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 1: to be too organized, too structured, because at the end 106 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 1: of the day, it's about the interior interaction of the individuals. 107 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: That's why I've always viewed it. And so I think 108 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:25,279 Speaker 1: it goes a long way and just you know, thankful 109 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: that we have the resources to you know, go out 110 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 1: and spend some money and have a great time doing it, 111 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:33,480 Speaker 1: and you know, laugh a lot, and and you know, 112 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:36,279 Speaker 1: and you always learn more about the the next god 113 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 1: you than you knew, you know, going into those those opportunities. 114 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 1: My comments, do you have to emphasize with these guys, 115 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 1: here's this five weeks of unstructured time, and maybe it 116 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:47,840 Speaker 1: goes about saying or maybe it needs to be understood 117 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 1: and be careful during this period. Oh yeah, travel safe, 118 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:53,280 Speaker 1: be smart, be safe. I think, like anything, you know, 119 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 1: it's it's it's part of our plan to get ready. 120 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 1: I mean, there's you know, what we've accomplished in the offseason. 121 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 1: We need to move forward. We can't go backwards. And 122 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 1: I think they clearly understand that that's been the messaging throughout. 123 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 1: I Mean, this isn't something we just you know, just 124 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:09,839 Speaker 1: didn't just talk about yesterday or today. Uh, you know, 125 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 1: this is something we've been preparing for. Uh. You know, 126 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 1: the coordinators and assistant coaches have been a lot of 127 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:18,039 Speaker 1: one on ones, a lot of extra time, particularly with 128 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 1: the younger guys in the afternoon. I think you've got 129 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:25,039 Speaker 1: to really commend today's athlete, particularly you know, I'm talking 130 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:28,040 Speaker 1: about the NFL players. Uh, there's a lot of interacts 131 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 1: and that goes on. You know, they you know, whether 132 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:32,280 Speaker 1: it's stack with the receivers at his house and the 133 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:34,599 Speaker 1: perimeter groups. You know, guys will still be working out 134 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:37,599 Speaker 1: here all the time. So you know, I do think 135 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 1: there's structure to it um and but it's you know, 136 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 1: it's obviously not all of us here together. And I 137 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:48,479 Speaker 1: think really this time is really beneficial because I think 138 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: we all could use a little bit of a break 139 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:51,840 Speaker 1: from one another. I think it gives you a chance 140 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:54,839 Speaker 1: to get around your family, your friends, you know, to 141 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: get personally charged, emotionally and mentally. And at the end 142 00:06:58,440 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: of the day, we all have to do the physical 143 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:02,599 Speaker 1: work that needs to be done to make sure we're 144 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:04,280 Speaker 1: ready to go in auxtern. A lot of guys you 145 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 1: use personal position coaches and different things. How much interaction 146 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 1: do you have with those coaches or with the players 147 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 1: to say we'd like you to do this, and make 148 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 1: sure they're telling you they're re entering the same messages 149 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 1: to those guys. Yeah, definitely, I think it's an excellent 150 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 1: outlook and perspective. And I think, you know, experience definitely 151 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 1: teaches you to embrace it and if if anything, I 152 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 1: think you have to watch maybe too much, you know, 153 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 1: too much. I think outsourcing is very important, always encouraged it. 154 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 1: And living in and you know, in the city of Dallas, 155 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 1: I mean, the resources are I mean, I mean, I'm 156 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 1: just going back through my career. I think our resources 157 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 1: are over the top pair so a guy really has 158 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 1: a chance to get get what he needs away from here. 159 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 1: And I'm not just talking about these these next five weeks. 160 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 1: I'm talking about throughout we go. I think we've talked 161 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 1: about this in a pass when you get into the 162 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 1: in season. The whole state program was initially developed because 163 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 1: you wanted to make sure that the players had the 164 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 1: resources to rest and recovery and regenerate their bodies. But 165 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 1: you know, coming here the veterans that they were already here, 166 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 1: that's in place, that they have tremendous program and networking 167 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 1: already in place, you know, So I think it's important 168 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 1: to be in tune with you know, with Dak's quarterback coach, 169 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 1: with his throwing coach, and and that's all part of 170 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 1: it because the end of the day, we all want 171 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 1: the same goal, you know, we're all off to the 172 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 1: same the same thing, and everything we do is about 173 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 1: making every one of these players successful, both on and 174 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 1: off the field. He expects ze to have he's best 175 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 1: season in the NFL yet now and he's healthy. I 176 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:45,839 Speaker 1: know it's early, but you see changes in z Well. 177 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 1: I think the biggest thing with Zeke is he's completely 178 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 1: healthy now and he's had a tremendous offseason. I mean, 179 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 1: the weight that he's been pushing in the weight room 180 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 1: just you know, the numbers that he's been cranking out, 181 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 1: you know, have been very, very impressive. You know, I 182 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 1: can't stand it's been the best of his career. But 183 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:04,199 Speaker 1: he's he's in top shape and you know, at the 184 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 1: end of the days and extremely instinctive, tough, smart football player, 185 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 1: great teammate. So I think he's definitely has set himself 186 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 1: up for that. The guy when you go to Oxnar 187 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:16,319 Speaker 1: or the guys that won't be ready to practice obviously 188 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:19,199 Speaker 1: Gallant won't be, but are to Row College James Washington 189 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 1: expecting these guys to be ready either. It started or 190 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 1: at some point in Oxnar at some point, you know, 191 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: even if it's in a limited fashion. You know, I 192 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 1: think that, you know, I think we feel really good 193 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 1: about the you know, the progress of all the players 194 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 1: that are going through rehab and everything's been very encouraging. 195 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 1: You've had your rookies for six weeks at this point. 196 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 1: How's your impression of those guys changed during this officeton program? Um? 197 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 1: You know, probably not fair to the first draft class, um, 198 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 1: and probably even the second draft classes because you know, 199 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 1: their introduction into the Dallas Cowboys, whether it's through a 200 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 1: pandemic or you know, certain protocols last year. But it's 201 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 1: clearly um. And it's just so hard to stay here 202 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:01,559 Speaker 1: in front of you and compliments somebody and not being 203 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 1: taken like I'm trying to solve somebody else. So see, 204 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 1: I'm getting sensitive. I've been out for too long. But 205 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:09,559 Speaker 1: so it's clearly the most mature group that we've had. 206 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 1: I'm very, very, very impressed with the extra time that 207 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:16,679 Speaker 1: these young men are here. I mean, they're here throughout 208 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 1: the afternoon, you know, the extra meetings, the Zoom meetings, 209 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 1: they're here on the weekends, so that I mean, you know, 210 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: I have not been in here over the weekend and 211 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:29,199 Speaker 1: have not run in the five, six, seven rookies up Sunday, 212 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 1: there's six or seven. I'm in here. So I think 213 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:33,959 Speaker 1: that's and that's what you're looking for. I mean, it's 214 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 1: just everybody talks about work ethic, everybody talks about the 215 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:39,719 Speaker 1: ability to have a high workload capacity. But at the 216 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 1: end of the day, I think it's you have to 217 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 1: emphasize it, but you've got to create the opportunity. And 218 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 1: I think our rookie class has done a tremendous job 219 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 1: of getting themselves ready for training camp because at the 220 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 1: end of the day, that's what the offseason program is. 221 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 1: It's about getting ready for a great training camp and 222 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 1: you know with that, the five week plan is part 223 00:10:57,000 --> 00:11:00,200 Speaker 1: of that. On those lines, with certain impressions, seeing Willie's 224 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 1: established the star, Sam's done some eximum things. Obviously had 225 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:06,080 Speaker 1: to dreams sometimes, but I mean you can definitely see 226 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:08,439 Speaker 1: the the you know, the past rush ability. You know, 227 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:10,319 Speaker 1: he's you know, he's he's raw, which is to be 228 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 1: expected and uh and I think that's it. That's it. 229 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:15,719 Speaker 1: That's a positive for where he is and I think 230 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 1: it clearly gets you excited about his upside. So yeah, 231 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 1: we're all everybody's been impressed with saying you guys like, 232 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 1: guy's feeling new to the position. You know, if you 233 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 1: don't do teach him any bad habits, you kind of 234 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 1: just start somewhat and new. Yeah, I agree with I 235 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:32,199 Speaker 1: think that's I've always looked at that. I mean, I 236 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 1: think when a guy's closer to his to his floor 237 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 1: than his sailing, I've I've always looked at that as 238 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 1: a as a positive because you had offseason program and 239 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 1: you know, you haven't had the pandemic restrictions. This is 240 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 1: the best you've talked about a team since you've been 241 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:48,719 Speaker 1: here going into training camp. Absolutely, it's the best I 242 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 1: felt about the football team in a preparation. You know, 243 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:54,319 Speaker 1: focus that clearly. I mean it's not it's not like 244 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 1: you really really have to throw the first year out, 245 00:11:57,679 --> 00:11:59,839 Speaker 1: but we're clearly ahead of where we were at this time, 246 00:11:59,880 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 1: like uster with guys like Sam Williams, you know, edge 247 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 1: rushers like that, and how little contact you guys are 248 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 1: able to have in the is it more Is it 249 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 1: more difficult to bring along edge rushers nowadays because of that? 250 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 1: Or can they make up the gas because of they 251 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 1: work with individual coaches and things like that. I think 252 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 1: it clearly, uh, you know this this this structure, the 253 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 1: off season program, you still have the ability to really 254 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 1: work the pass rush. Yeah, So I don't feel like 255 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 1: we're tremendously limited there. I think really the the biggest 256 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 1: restriction for for the pass rushing and the defensive lineman 257 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:39,439 Speaker 1: it's not going against a padded offensive linement. So I 258 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 1: mean that's that that will be obviously the next step 259 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:43,199 Speaker 1: when we get the training camp. But you know, the 260 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 1: ability to you know, to get the techniques, the alignments, 261 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:49,320 Speaker 1: you know, and particularly the drill work, get that taught, 262 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 1: get the speed of it taught. Um, you know, and 263 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 1: that's all obviously, but you have to you know, you 264 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:56,079 Speaker 1: have to shut it down at the at the top 265 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:59,439 Speaker 1: of the rush just because of restrictions you have in practice. 266 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 1: So I feel, you know, I felt it's always had. 267 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 1: I still feel that we we did able to accomplish 268 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 1: a law, particularly Sam or the whole defensive front. So 269 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 1: feel good about what we're able to get done pass 270 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:12,679 Speaker 1: for us wise. But you know, the padent work is 271 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:15,719 Speaker 1: you know, for for everybody is obviously the premium and 272 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 1: training camp. Mike he said a couple of weeks ago 273 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 1: with Kelvin, Joseph was doing good work in the building. 274 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:21,199 Speaker 1: Last couple of times we've had a jest to see 275 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 1: he's suited up, but on the sideline, where is he 276 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 1: at physically? You know, I think he's gonna be okay. 277 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:28,559 Speaker 1: You know, it's it's it's it's a minor injury that 278 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 1: he's working through. So I don't think, you know, I 279 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 1: think after the five weeks off that I anticipate he'll 280 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 1: be full going training camp within the restrictions that you're 281 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 1: talking about, how the practices and stuff. Is the structure 282 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 1: of camp going to be different in terms of that 283 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:45,680 Speaker 1: they'll be working up towards those joint practices as well 284 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 1: as the preseason games different you're talking about differ from 285 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 1: last year. Um, I think it looks same. I think 286 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:56,599 Speaker 1: it'll look the same to everybody here. You know, you 287 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 1: have the first four practices a ramp up, so and 288 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:01,679 Speaker 1: I think that you know, the stress point there is 289 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 1: is you know we're gonna go four in a row, so, uh, 290 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:06,439 Speaker 1: you know we won't be on the field longer in 291 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 1: an hour. You know, it'll it'll be a tremendous model 292 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:12,839 Speaker 1: walk through jog throughs, and that will really focus on 293 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 1: to get that you get that really we're gonna take 294 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 1: the first two installs just make sure we really got 295 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 1: it tuned up and ready to go, and uh you 296 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 1: know it then really you know the install three and 297 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 1: four which is the fifth and sixth practice that you 298 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 1: know that it's kind of you know, you still have 299 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 1: some time restraints here and the padded work. So I 300 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 1: think you're gonna see it more of a client this 301 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 1: year because you know, this is the first year in 302 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 1: the new CBA, so the practice time is less than 303 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 1: it's been as far as even in the padded work 304 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 1: because you really don't get into the full padded work 305 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 1: that we're accustomed to. I call it a traditional install 306 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 1: training camp practice, but you really don't get into that 307 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 1: until the seventh practice. So so you're going to see 308 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 1: more of a progression like this as as as far 309 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 1: as the time on the field and competitive drills. So um, 310 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 1: so that part is but we'll we'll be able to 311 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 1: get the eight installs done, you know before we go 312 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 1: to Denver, and then once we hit Denver, we're really 313 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 1: into a kind of a preseason you know mode of 314 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 1: getting ready for Denver and then the same thing as well. 315 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 1: We'll clean up the Denver game on that Monday, and 316 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 1: then Tuesday we're gonna you know, we'll have more of 317 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 1: a job through and then head down the Irvine. He 318 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 1: always the number installs or barrier with the six, you know, 319 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 1: the number of installs. It hasn't spread that out, of course, 320 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 1: does it vary the eight? I think really the um 321 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 1: the way we're set up, it's you know, when I 322 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 1: first got in the league, I think we had fifteen 323 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 1: you know, nineteen ninety three is you know we had 324 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 1: fifteen installs? Um, I'm trying to I think I went 325 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 1: to twelve. I know my first year as a head coach, 326 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 1: I think I had ten, and in probably around two 327 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 1: thousand and elevens when I went to eight just because 328 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 1: it had a fit. You know, we're we're all And frankly, 329 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 1: I think is as the longer year in this league, 330 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 1: I think you clearly get more control your volume volume. 331 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 1: You know, I'm a big believer in less volume, more creativity. 332 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 1: That's it's you know, it's a coaching principle of mine 333 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 1: that I've adhered to for good fifteen twenty years. So 334 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 1: it makes you work harder to get it tight and 335 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 1: efficient going into it. But I've been in the eight 336 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 1: install mode for probably a decade now, and it works. 337 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 1: It definitely works in this new CBA environment. I don't 338 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 1: know what you're saying about players being closer to therefore 339 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 1: than the sailing. When you have a player ling Jalan 340 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 1: Tilbert who didn't start playing football Stall high school, how 341 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 1: does that show up when they get to camp and 342 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 1: even if they kind of cause your career, what types 343 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 1: of waste that evidence and the way they play the dam? 344 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 1: I think it goes back to the floor ceiling conversation. 345 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 1: But you know, I think the other thing too is, 346 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 1: you know which you have to really pay attention to 347 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 1: is instincts and awareness. You know, even for the young 348 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 1: man that didn't play football that long obviously you know 349 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 1: he's a multi sport athlete, and you know you can 350 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 1: cross training and gain those types of experience in spacing, 351 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 1: interactions and other sports. So and I think it all 352 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 1: applies to, you know, whatever sports you go to and 353 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 1: at that level. So I'm I feel very good about 354 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 1: where he is because he's he's very detail minded, very 355 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 1: focused young man. Um picks it up quickly. You know 356 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 1: his learning is you know, I definitely put him in 357 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:09,639 Speaker 1: a higher higher level there too. So but just like 358 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 1: any rookie, he's got across that threshold of getting out 359 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 1: the competitive drills and really get going, particularly put the 360 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:17,440 Speaker 1: pads on and and you know, in that ale current 361 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 1: ofxer get back, how's he transitioned to the how looking 362 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:25,879 Speaker 1: potentially be here primary Coperturner this year? We'll see. I mean, 363 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 1: you know, I think he's done a nice job with 364 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 1: the limited rest he's had. Obviously he missed some time 365 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:32,879 Speaker 1: with the hamstrings, so but he's you know, seems pretty 366 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 1: natural back there when you look at these five weeks 367 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:37,399 Speaker 1: where I'm sure you're looking forward to it in the 368 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 1: time office or a time during that period where you're like, okay, 369 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 1: let's go. It's having to get back to football people 370 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 1: before it I want to fight it this year. And 371 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 1: that's a very insightful question. But you thought it's about time, 372 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 1: by the way, but don't just kidding. It's uh yeah, yeah, 373 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 1: here you but really kind of what happens to me 374 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 1: and and and uh you know your kids test you 375 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 1: on this, but really, you know, once I get past 376 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:02,400 Speaker 1: the fourth of je you know, it's about July eighth, nineteenth, 377 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:05,360 Speaker 1: and I think most coaches are like this. You start 378 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 1: getting the itch, you know, you know, you get up, 379 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 1: you know, just from my structure, vacation of my family. 380 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 1: You know, the mornings are my free time because you know, 381 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:16,120 Speaker 1: kids stay up a little later in order to get 382 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 1: and you know, and get their butt out of bed 383 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 1: till eleven o'clock. So you know, I get a good 384 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 1: six hours of freedom before I get going. So and 385 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 1: that's you know, that's when I really dive back into it. 386 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 1: So it's kind of you know, it's fun, you know, 387 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 1: a lot of family time looking forward to it. Family 388 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 1: from Pittsburgh's coming and so but I think once you 389 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 1: get past that fourth July week, and I know that's 390 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 1: kind of been my trigger. So I'll definitely spend those 391 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 1: last two weeks getting ready getting back to Joseph. Just 392 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:44,680 Speaker 1: for a second, any clarity on this situation with doubt 393 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:48,160 Speaker 1: with the Dallas PDE. I have nothing. Yeah, I haven't 394 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:51,120 Speaker 1: been told anything for at least a month, So yeah, 395 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 1: I have nothing to report. Is it says Dawn was 396 00:18:54,520 --> 00:19:00,199 Speaker 1: here that you know he'll be accountful? Great question? Business question? Um, 397 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:03,160 Speaker 1: I'm you know, I think we're all hopeful and um 398 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 1: and I think it'd be you know, it'd be great 399 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 1: for everybody developed doing well. I think I think Sean 400 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:12,680 Speaker 1: just you know, his his continued progression, you know in 401 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 1: the weight room and the conditioning part of it. You know, 402 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 1: he's had some injuries that he's had overcome in the past, 403 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:19,360 Speaker 1: and I think he's done a really good job there 404 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:21,680 Speaker 1: getting his ready, you know, getting his body ready for 405 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 1: a very very resourceful, very versatile you know, both on 406 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 1: special teams and obviously you know, at the tight end 407 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 1: petition position. But I think he's had an excellent offseason. 408 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:33,639 Speaker 1: You mentioned guys, most guys are around here and they 409 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 1: have this facility. How much, if at all, does that 410 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:39,359 Speaker 1: play into cutting many camp a little bit short in 411 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 1: terms of you know, not not taking all that time, 412 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:45,400 Speaker 1: knowing guys are around and just kind of a little 413 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:48,119 Speaker 1: fill in the gaps a little bit. Will I'll tell 414 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:49,879 Speaker 1: you it's it's that And I'll be honestly, I think 415 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:52,360 Speaker 1: it's the virtual learning too. I mean for me personally, 416 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:54,879 Speaker 1: I think he you know, when you go through it 417 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 1: in the pandemic, um clearly learned a lot, you know, personally, 418 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 1: and you know, as a coach staff prospective perspective of 419 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:06,159 Speaker 1: the workload capacity ability. Uh So, I mean there's a 420 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 1: lot of work that gets done that's that's really not 421 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 1: on a daily schedule. So I think that's you know, 422 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:13,879 Speaker 1: that really plays into it. And the fact that the 423 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 1: guys are here, um and and they do interact with 424 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 1: their coaches, you know, on a on a different level, 425 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 1: um than to my experience in the past. That's that's 426 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:27,640 Speaker 1: all part of it. So I can't tell you how 427 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:30,639 Speaker 1: how proud I am of our young players, but just 428 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 1: to complement the coaching staff, and that's really you know 429 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:35,680 Speaker 1: what I echoed in the last staff meeting. I thought 430 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:37,199 Speaker 1: they knocked it out of park. I thought they hit 431 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 1: a home run as far as maximizing the time with 432 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 1: our players and you know, the veterans. You know, we 433 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:46,200 Speaker 1: had excellent participation from phase one, really the Captain's workouts 434 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 1: Phase one all the way through, so we were able 435 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:50,920 Speaker 1: to go through all the concepts with the Vets, and 436 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:53,719 Speaker 1: then the Vets also got all eight install so um, 437 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:55,920 Speaker 1: like I said, I think we clearly crossed the finish 438 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 1: line of what we were trying to get done this 439 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 1: year approach. You know, it's it's it's June early June, 440 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:05,159 Speaker 1: and there's still some preset penalties. Do you look at 441 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 1: it like all, it's a part of the ring process 442 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:08,440 Speaker 1: that you get to time to fit it up. Where 443 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:10,680 Speaker 1: are you you really militant about it? How do you 444 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:12,439 Speaker 1: how do you balance the big picture of the offseason 445 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 1: with the physical point of this is I mean, just 446 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:17,159 Speaker 1: just when you think you're seeing it, honestly, something else happens. 447 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 1: You know, the Guardian caps show up. So I mean, 448 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 1: you know I I you know, telling Jerry Bergman, I said, 449 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:25,399 Speaker 1: you gotta put that flag in your pocket when you 450 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 1: got there's the biggest damn helmets I've ever seen in 451 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 1: my life. So I so you had some of that, Uh, 452 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:32,119 Speaker 1: you know, I think it kind of you know, I 453 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:35,119 Speaker 1: know it through our our young guarden tackle off as 454 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:37,919 Speaker 1: far as their alignments and so forth. So you got 455 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 1: to sort through that. But you know, I thought it 456 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 1: was great to have the officials, um, and really the 457 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:46,160 Speaker 1: biggest benefit that I've always felt that you have officials 458 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 1: that your practices, not as much have them on the field, 459 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 1: but having them in your meetings. So the ability to 460 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 1: you know, talk about the technique that we're teaching what 461 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:57,879 Speaker 1: they're looking for because all those all those guys the 462 00:21:57,960 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 1: whole you know, Bill Vinovitch all the way through his 463 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 1: whole crew. I thought they did a great job of 464 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 1: communicate and interacting with our players, um and just you know, 465 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 1: tell them what they see, you know, And I think, 466 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 1: like anything, you know, it's great. Dynamics is about building 467 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:13,680 Speaker 1: relationships and not that you know you're going to build 468 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:16,680 Speaker 1: a relationship that's going to benefit you U with the 469 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 1: referees as far as how they call, but it does 470 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 1: help you talk to them about hey, you know, because 471 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 1: it's all about getting as close to the line as 472 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,639 Speaker 1: you can without getting the flag called. I mean, that's 473 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:30,440 Speaker 1: that's part of competing in sports. So the ability to 474 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:33,160 Speaker 1: have those conversations and understanding, I think it's really good 475 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 1: for our younger players or veterans understand that. So just 476 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 1: the interaction that they had there. So yeah, definitely, I 477 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:42,120 Speaker 1: mean to have that many flagstone in a practice, I mean, yeah, 478 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:45,680 Speaker 1: I glad of it crossed my mind about practicing today. 479 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:49,440 Speaker 1: But that's that that I didn't think that was necessary, Um, 480 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 1: but I think it was a really good experience. But 481 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 1: you know, we're in those guarding caps. It's the first 482 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 1: time we had them on. It's exactly I wanted to 483 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:59,120 Speaker 1: wear them, you know in the mini camp, just more 484 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 1: for the maintenance and the adjustment of it. But you know, 485 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:05,920 Speaker 1: I really wasn't expecting you know, encroachment and you know, 486 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 1: in the illegal formations at the level that we had them. 487 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 1: But but I'm glad we've got to take because we 488 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 1: were able to coach it. Like you said, at the 489 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 1: end of the year, the job one was cleaning up 490 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:19,160 Speaker 1: penalties discippline, maybe silly penalties. How much do these referees 491 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 1: their involvement and maybe maybe there's more reps involved with 492 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 1: you during practices. How much is that part of that plan. Yeah, 493 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:27,160 Speaker 1: I think we got a much better plan than we've had. 494 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:29,399 Speaker 1: I think, you know, we obviously you know Gary Slaughter, 495 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 1: he's our local, our local repairs. So just the fact 496 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 1: that we can have him more involved, you know, without 497 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:38,159 Speaker 1: the protocols, I think that clearly will be an excellent 498 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 1: addition for us. His involvement, you know, as far as 499 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 1: the communication and training of the of the local you know, 500 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 1: referees that we do use a practice, I think we'll 501 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 1: definitely will be better served there. Uh, you look at 502 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 1: our training camp. You know, we'll probably have the NFL 503 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 1: officials at our training camp to two different times. We're 504 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:00,040 Speaker 1: normally have them once we're going to be involved and 505 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 1: practicing against the Broncos, So you have two sets of 506 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,959 Speaker 1: officials there on both fields, no different than down there 507 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,400 Speaker 1: and Irvine against the charges. So I think our exposure, 508 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:12,880 Speaker 1: I think clearly, our exposure to NFL officials, the interaction 509 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 1: and NFL officials throughout training camp is clearly a highest 510 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 1: that I've ever experienced in my career. So I think 511 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:21,359 Speaker 1: there'll definitely be some benefits from that. Why having them 512 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:24,680 Speaker 1: twice this year, just because of the practice it was offered, Yeah, 513 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 1: I mean it's you know, it was offered, not that 514 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:30,479 Speaker 1: you know, just uh, it was. I think they were 515 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:32,440 Speaker 1: here about three weeks ago, so we had our our 516 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 1: annual officiating meeting with the coaches, So that's something that 517 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 1: came up in the meetings. So we're you know, we've 518 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:41,119 Speaker 1: we've requested it. So I think, like I said, I 519 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 1: think the interaction. I get more out of the conversations 520 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,879 Speaker 1: with the officials off to the side or in the 521 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:50,640 Speaker 1: meetings than anything else. So you get to talk about situations, 522 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 1: you can talk about how we're teaching game management situations 523 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:55,680 Speaker 1: and how they view them and so forth, and you 524 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 1: know all these You know, we obviously talked about our 525 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:00,879 Speaker 1: last play against the forty nine, so you get a 526 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 1: chance to go back and review the mechanics, and they 527 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:05,159 Speaker 1: they've obviously had a chance to review their mechanics. So 528 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 1: I just think it makes us all better. Means that 529 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:10,440 Speaker 1: based on practice, when you guys are in a situational 530 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 1: or fin limit being changed, is that fair or there 531 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:14,920 Speaker 1: any tweaks the mechanics in that situation where you guys 532 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 1: are running and trying to get a playoff, Well, it's fine. 533 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,719 Speaker 1: I think it's the thing is not. I don't think 534 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:22,400 Speaker 1: it's really as much as how much we have to change. 535 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:25,359 Speaker 1: It's just we just got to be better at the execution. 536 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:29,120 Speaker 1: And I think the awareness on both sides of exactly 537 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:31,919 Speaker 1: what the umpire is trying to do or win them. 538 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:36,360 Speaker 1: You know that the officials coming to spot the ball 539 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 1: or bless the ball. I think, you know, the ability 540 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 1: to just continue because really our training tapes haven't changed much, 541 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 1: you know, because you know, you only get so many 542 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:47,920 Speaker 1: reps where you have one of thirteen seconds, you have 543 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 1: one of seventeen seconds, so you know, the ability to 544 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:52,440 Speaker 1: go back through those and just you know, enhance it. 545 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,920 Speaker 1: I think it's like anything when you look at situational football, 546 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 1: you know, and game management's part of that, you know. 547 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 1: I mean there's been years where hey, I did feel 548 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 1: like we're very good in the red zone, you know, 549 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,399 Speaker 1: whether it's offensive defense. So what do you do? Do 550 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:07,399 Speaker 1: more red zone reps and practice in training camp? Well, 551 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:09,880 Speaker 1: then you got to give something up. So but that's 552 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:13,120 Speaker 1: not the case in game management. You know, there's there's 553 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 1: a criteria and a quota from my perspective as far 554 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 1: as how I plan it of how many times you 555 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 1: need to do it. So I thought last year we 556 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 1: did it clearly more than I ever have um. But 557 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, you know, that's we 558 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:25,919 Speaker 1: want to We want to be better at the teaching 559 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:27,679 Speaker 1: and the training at it, and I think that ultimately 560 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 1: makes our players better. For clarification, for the dune to 561 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:36,880 Speaker 1: make me, uh, did you does that on camera? There's 562 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 1: so much conjection about you guys did it wrong? You know, 563 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:43,200 Speaker 1: get headed about the consenter. Instead of give it to 564 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,880 Speaker 1: the referee, you're saying we didn't do it wrong, which 565 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 1: the team to do it the same way is that 566 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 1: I'm just trying to know. And so because please don't 567 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 1: make it out a headline. No, I'm just trying to 568 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 1: because I'm not running DAK twenty times either, Okay, so 569 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 1: I don't I don't know where to La came from 570 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,359 Speaker 1: because I yeah, but I'm just trying to you know, 571 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 1: you're not changing the operation. How you having me have 572 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,399 Speaker 1: a whole situation at Our focus is more on the 573 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 1: specifics and the details and the execution. So, uh, you know, 574 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 1: when you look at clock in the play you know, 575 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 1: as far as we call it church clock, you know, 576 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 1: because we have a church family of situations. Um, that 577 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 1: that we that we reps are. We have four playbooks. 578 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:28,160 Speaker 1: We have an offensive playbook, we have a defensive playbook, 579 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:29,680 Speaker 1: we have a special team's playbook, we have a game 580 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 1: management playbook. And so that's the way I've done it 581 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 1: as a head coach. Um. So when I first got 582 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:38,439 Speaker 1: into the league, you know, the threshold was seventeen seconds 583 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 1: of when you when you attempt the clock to play. 584 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 1: I think through training emphasis over the years, Um, most 585 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,480 Speaker 1: people now teach it at sixteen, but there is a 586 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 1: situation at thirteen fourteen and fifteen, which we were in 587 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 1: at fourteen. Um, there's evidence clearly, you know our training tapes, 588 00:27:56,200 --> 00:28:00,200 Speaker 1: uh Jacksonville, you know, at at Minnesota. So it's it's 589 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:01,920 Speaker 1: all there for you and they run a draw play. 590 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 1: But you know, you have you know, coaching emphasis and 591 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 1: and and awareness as far as how much yards you 592 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:09,920 Speaker 1: can get, you know, as far as me being to 593 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 1: communicate maybe with it instead of the aldern reff you know, 594 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 1: to the side judgets and so you go back and 595 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 1: review all the things. Hey, how can we all be 596 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 1: better on this play? So I think you know, obviously 597 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 1: it's the accountability of it. But you know, as far 598 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,439 Speaker 1: as what we are trying to get done, we were 599 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 1: trying to get the ball moved up, you know, another 600 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,440 Speaker 1: ten to twelve yards to put us in another place 601 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:35,159 Speaker 1: selection for the last play. So as far as the 602 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 1: thought design, you know, because I don't want to open 603 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 1: up this can of worms again because I'm going on 604 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 1: vacation today, Clarence, and you know, we will be better 605 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:49,240 Speaker 1: is our focus. Okay, that needs to be the headline. 606 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 1: We will be better. That's our focus. Everybody have a 607 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 1: great break, huh,