Speaker 1: All right, Scott are you ready?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 3: I'm so ready today, I'm.
Speaker 1: Just raring to go here. It is potatoes are better
Speaker 1: than human blood for making space bricks, scientists.
Speaker 3: Say, And what else would you think of besides human
Speaker 3: blood and potatoes when you're talking bricks? You know what, everybody,
Speaker 3: Today's going to be an interesting day in all of
Speaker 3: our lives. So no puns. Let's just invite everybody to
Speaker 3: jump ears first into a little bliss pit that we
Speaker 3: call bananas World.
Speaker 4: Would your mindsillion pieces.
Speaker 1: Guys, gals, non binary pals, Welcome to Bananas I am
Speaker 1: kerk Brown Owler.
Speaker 3: I am banana Boy number two. Scotti Landis. Thank you
Speaker 3: for listening to the silliest little podcast ever was. We're
Speaker 3: glad to have you. It's just gonna be an extra
Speaker 3: good episode today for many reasons. Kurt, do you have
Speaker 3: any stand up but you need to announce or anything
Speaker 3: ahead of this?
Speaker 1: We're getting right into our guests. Scottie, our guest today
Speaker 1: is an author, a wild plant expert, a James Beard
Speaker 1: Award winner, an Emmy Award winner, but most of all,
Speaker 1: she is a forager. Her social media accounts under Black
Speaker 1: Forager have millions of followers, and she has a cookbook
Speaker 1: coming out next year. Please welcome Alexis Nicole Nelson.
Speaker 2: Hello, hypen Animals.
Speaker 3: I like I told you before we start recording, we
Speaker 3: are fans, are wonderful people who often recommend people. And
Speaker 3: your name kept coming up over and over and over,
Speaker 3: and then there was almost like a tip point moment
Speaker 3: where and I think you'll remember this story. Alicia Silverstone
Speaker 3: was in England walking around and ate something off a
Speaker 3: tree and everybody, oh, yeah, congratulations, you're about to die.
Speaker 3: And then everybody's like, talk to the black Forger, she
Speaker 3: will know. So what do you remember that? What was that?
Speaker 2: Oh? I remember it extraordinarily clearly. They were Jerusalem cherries,
Speaker 2: which are not cherries. They are in the night shade family,
Speaker 2: just like tomatoes, potatoes and also deadly nightshade. Okay, it
Speaker 2: has some of the tastiest treats. It also has some
Speaker 2: of the most dangerous tricksters in the plant world.
Speaker 3: Oh, I see.
Speaker 2: So. Unfortunately, despite their name sounding delicious, uh, not edible,
Speaker 2: but also not deadly, a lot of people were just
Speaker 2: like rip sham Horowitz, like I love your work. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's been it's been real. And I was like, if anything,
Speaker 2: she's gonna have a stomach ache, and that's like the
Speaker 2: worst it's going to get. She's gonna be so fine.
Speaker 2: If you've ever eaten a potato chip with a little
Speaker 2: green still on it, of course you've also had a
Speaker 2: little bit of solinine and you lived to tell.
Speaker 1: The tale because it's the same, right, because it's the
Speaker 1: same same family. Oh it's potatoes, need to eat?
Speaker 3: Oh that's so interesting. Well, you must have to encounter
Speaker 3: that quite a bit. The Internet is often almost right
Speaker 3: about so many things. But what I'm really saying is
Speaker 3: they're often wrong about nearly everything. And you are an expert,
Speaker 3: you're an aficionado. So do people come to you constantly
Speaker 3: in your regular life too, and go is this good?
Speaker 3: Is this bad? Can I eat this? Can I not
Speaker 3: eat that?
Speaker 2: Oh? Absolutely? I don't think a day passes without someone
Speaker 2: a former co worker, second cousin twice removed, reaching out
Speaker 2: and saying, this mysterious fungus slash berries slash leaf has
Speaker 2: appeared in or around by home, and I want to
Speaker 2: know if I can put it into my mouth hole
Speaker 2: without consequence. Which it's so funny, but that's always everyone's
Speaker 2: first question. Mushroom aficionado Michael Kuo, who I love, was like,
Speaker 2: it's so wild that that's the first thing you ask,
Speaker 2: because if someone sees a cool bird, you never go
Speaker 2: and ask a burder. Oh can I eat this barn?
Speaker 3: That's so true, that is so funny, But that is
Speaker 3: you know what. Ever, since I started watching your Instagram,
Speaker 3: I have been thinking about you so much because you're
Speaker 3: so funny. You're basically a stand up comedian who just
Speaker 3: uses digital media instead, but so smart, and yet you're
Speaker 3: like a daredevil to me because my entire life, the
Speaker 3: one thing it's like, do not eat mushrooms. Do not Like,
Speaker 3: if you eat one, you'll anything out of the forest.
Speaker 3: And in your videos you'll start screaming that you see
Speaker 3: something really excited about, I cook it up and eat it.
Speaker 3: And that to me is like stunt woman level of crazy.
Speaker 3: Just because I'm an ignorant fool, that's the problem.
Speaker 2: No, No, because you recognize your strengths and your weaknesses,
Speaker 2: and that is that is very important.
Speaker 3: Yes, staying alive? Yeah true?
Speaker 1: Did you have like growing did you coming up? Did
Speaker 1: you have a mentor who knew all about wild and
Speaker 1: medicinal plants?
Speaker 2: Yeah? For me. That was my mom, my mom who
Speaker 2: I used to just trail along behind her whenever she
Speaker 2: was working in the yard. And I was not very helpful,
Speaker 2: as most children are not when you give them a
Speaker 2: task in the outdoors. There's just so much to see,
Speaker 2: there's so much to do. But my favorite times would
Speaker 2: be when we'd be like planting something or pulling something up,
Speaker 2: and she'd be like, Oh, this is Econasia purple cone flower,
Speaker 2: and the roots are a great tea that helps strengthen
Speaker 2: your immune system. And in my little brain rolodex, I'd
Speaker 2: be like, oh, okay, gotta write that down, store that
Speaker 2: away for safe keeping for later.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. And then and then you So it
Speaker 1: started with your mom? And then did you have did
Speaker 1: you take classes or was it online? Like how did
Speaker 1: you kind of get fully immersed into the forging world.
Speaker 2: It's been a multi decade hyperfounxation. I think I inhaled
Speaker 2: every plant book first in my mom's library, then every
Speaker 2: plant book at my school's library, then every plant book
Speaker 2: at my local library branch. And I also went to
Speaker 2: overnight camp, got like shipped out to the woods during
Speaker 2: the summertime so my parents could have a couple weeks peace,
Speaker 2: and I was obsessed with all of the outdoor classes,
Speaker 2: the plan identification, animal tracking, orienteering, mountain biking. If it
Speaker 2: involved like being out and about interacting with the natural world,
Speaker 2: that was like all I ever wanted to do. And
Speaker 2: so I later ended up becoming one of those camp
Speaker 2: counselors and getting to that knowledge on to a new generation,
Speaker 2: which is just the best.
Speaker 1: Oh man, that is so fantastic. It's so great to
Speaker 1: be able to pass out. I had him. I had
Speaker 1: kind of a mentor of sort. His name was Steve Lee,
Speaker 1: and he lived in upstate, in upstate New York. For
Speaker 1: he lived in a yurt for twenty five years in
Speaker 1: upstate New York with no running water or electricity.
Speaker 2: I love that for him, Oh my.
Speaker 1: Gosh, he was real. I mean, he was the real thing.
Speaker 1: And he used to teach at this school called, oh
Speaker 1: my god, Dan Brown, Dan Brown sur and so it
Speaker 1: was all just like primitive survival skills, plants, identification, all
Speaker 1: that sort of stuff. And so he used to be
Speaker 1: a teacher there and so he would just teach us
Speaker 1: as kids, and it was I mean, it was like
Speaker 1: it just so once you to go for a walk,
Speaker 1: I find with someone like yourself, who note like who
Speaker 1: to the to a walk through the woods is not
Speaker 1: just simply I see trees and leaves, but seeing like
Speaker 1: a corncopia of medicinal plants, a cornucopia of food available.
Speaker 3: It is.
Speaker 1: It is the most beautiful thing in the world. And
Speaker 1: I'm so very happy to have you on this show.
Speaker 2: Also, cornucopia, great word that doesn't get used outside of
Speaker 2: the month of November enough.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it is sort of a horn of plenty.
Speaker 3: I've described him that before on the pot.
Speaker 1: But it's Thanksgiving or the Hunger Games, and those the
Speaker 1: only times you see that.
Speaker 3: True. Also, Kurt, that is true. I was thinking about
Speaker 3: that also when we when we booked alexis like, Kurt's
Speaker 3: a big loves the outdoors, camping, hiking, that sort of
Speaker 3: thing too, And I was thinking, because in some of
Speaker 3: your videos, alexis you you'll you'll jokingly be like, I'm
Speaker 3: the most annoying person to take a walk with, even
Speaker 3: in like city scapes, because it's like you can eat
Speaker 3: that crack on the sidewalk, so you can eat that.
Speaker 3: But Kurt would be the perfect person to walk alongside,
Speaker 3: like eyes wide open, ears wide open, and to hear you.
Speaker 3: So if you ever do a guided tour in southern California,
Speaker 3: you have two people that will sign them immediately. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh my gosh. And southern California has such cool flora.
Speaker 2: Oh man, you guys have some of the coolest plants.
Speaker 3: Good a right, great when they're not on fire, when.
Speaker 2: They are not on fire. Very important addendum. I know
Speaker 2: all of us in like North America kind of have
Speaker 2: the dice roll of our own particular natural disaster. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and while tornadoes are terrifying, I do think I would
Speaker 2: take our tornadoes over everyone else's everything. I was in
Speaker 2: southern California for that earthquake back in March, and it
Speaker 2: was Baby's first earthquake, and I was not all right.
Speaker 3: I like them, like, I fought them so interesting because
Speaker 3: they're like, there's a great reminder that we do live
Speaker 3: on a dynamic planet that can kill us at any time.
Speaker 3: So it's important to be present and to go, yeah,
Speaker 3: we're not the top of the galactic food chain.
Speaker 1: We're not in charge. We're not in charge. It's a
Speaker 1: nice reminder.
Speaker 3: I agree.
Speaker 1: I don't like the I don't like the wildfires. I
Speaker 1: would take tornadoes over wildfires because they're just so it's
Speaker 1: just every it affects so much of the state.
Speaker 2: It's exactly.
Speaker 3: I don't know nature's baptism. That's what I say.
Speaker 1: All right. I love that we were talking about night
Speaker 1: shades before. Should we get into this story real quick.
Speaker 3: Some potato stuff, some potato stuff.
Speaker 2: Love potatoes stuff. That's what they called me in.
Speaker 3: The words.
Speaker 1: This was sent in by Jessica Hawks. Thank you, Jessica.
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Speaker 1: atmail dot com. This was on space dot com, classic
Speaker 1: place to get your Space news. Potatoes are better than
Speaker 1: human blood for making space bricks, scientists say, and this
Speaker 1: is published by Josh Dinner.
Speaker 3: Serving them up hot in there it is.
Speaker 1: Scientists have created an intriguing concrete alternative using simulated simulated
Speaker 1: Martian or Lunar soil, potato, starch, and salt. The space
Speaker 1: concrete is twice as strong as conventional concrete. The researchers
Speaker 1: say they hope the new material will eventually facilitate construction
Speaker 1: efforts on the Moon and Mars. Okay, so those are
Speaker 1: a great that's a great opening paragraph.
Speaker 3: Right, couldn't love it more?
Speaker 1: Couldn't love it more? Based on the title potatoes are
Speaker 1: better than human blood, the next paragraph should be about human.
Speaker 2: Blood, human hemoglobin.
Speaker 1: Right, there we go. Let's count. Let's count the paragraphs
Speaker 1: Josh Dinner puts before he mentions human blood. One, two,
Speaker 1: There's three, four, five, six. It is the sixth paragraph down.
Speaker 1: It's just talking about how strong potatoes are as bricks.
Speaker 1: That's the whole Thing's talking about it for six paragraphs
Speaker 1: and big paragraphs.
Speaker 3: Weird as astronauts. Okay, here we go. Sorry.
Speaker 1: Potato starch wasn't the first medium that University of Manchester
Speaker 1: scientists tested in their search for ISRU building supplies. In
Speaker 1: a previous study. Previous study, the same team explore the
Speaker 1: possibility of using human blood and urine as binding agents
Speaker 1: for their extraterrestrial concrete. They didn't go to potatoes first.
Speaker 1: They went to potatoes second. They went to blood and
Speaker 1: piss first. Okay, And the reason is the blood and
Speaker 1: urine of astronauts, after all, are renewable resources, and they're
Speaker 1: available wherever an astronauts mission might take them. Concrete from
Speaker 1: the researcher's trials using blood and urine also produced straints
Speaker 1: above traditional mixtures these bricks. Construction, however, would require that
Speaker 1: astronauts replet repeatedly drained their own bodily fluids, which was
Speaker 1: viewed as a drawback.
Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you, Josh. Okay. Yeah, wasn't this in the
Speaker 3: Martian the book in the movie. Wasn't he growing potatoes
Speaker 3: to build? Wasn't he? I thought that was a part.
Speaker 3: It was growing.
Speaker 2: It was definitely growing potatoes. I think it was to
Speaker 2: try and see, like what sustenance can be grown in
Speaker 2: the soil on Mars. But now we know you can
Speaker 2: also use it for building materials. I love a starch.
Speaker 1: Also, the fact that it's stronger than concrete is very interesting.
Speaker 1: Like that's okay, I'm interested, I'm listening.
Speaker 2: I'm now suddenly like, oh my god, State of Idaho,
Speaker 2: I have a crazy proposition for you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, build a wall at the very top between us
Speaker 3: and Canada. That really weird little.
Speaker 2: Part of this little tiny strip.
Speaker 3: That nobody I've ever met in my entire life has
Speaker 3: ever been to, probably for great reason, but build a
Speaker 3: potato wall between US and Canada. Just as a google, just.
Speaker 1: As soon as a and we're talking about a three
Speaker 1: foot wall. You can step over it. You can step
Speaker 1: over it.
Speaker 2: We mean no harm with it. We're not trying to
Speaker 2: keep anybody out with it, but just to say that
Speaker 2: we did it, they should do it.
Speaker 3: And we know it's not going to go anywhere. So
Speaker 3: I also read once the coffee grinds make cement like
Speaker 3: twice as strong too. So what I'm asking is why
Speaker 3: are we making this week ass cement? Should we be
Speaker 3: using all this stuff?
Speaker 2: I find nothing about questions. It's time to hold construction
Speaker 2: on trial.
Speaker 3: It's just a mafia thing. What's going on this?
Speaker 2: Exactly?
Speaker 1: Why was the first move asbestos? Why was that like
Speaker 1: the first choice to get the most the most toxic ingredients.
Speaker 2: An asbestosis defense, which is not something you will hear
Speaker 2: me say often. It's very good at stopping fires, Oh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why there, it is.
Speaker 2: Very bad for literally everything else.
Speaker 3: Yeah. We every generation has its things. Our grandparents had
Speaker 3: as fast as our parents had lead, and we have microplastics.
Speaker 3: We all have things that are just killing us that
Speaker 3: we readily welcome into our walls and homes.
Speaker 2: Exactly. Oh man, I can't wait for Gen Alpha to
Speaker 2: turn and look backwards at us with our microplastics, and
Speaker 2: I can't wait to find out what their weird, small
Speaker 2: bad will be.
Speaker 1: I mean, like I really didn't expect it to be that.
Speaker 1: I mean like when we were like the water coming
Speaker 1: out of the tap is bad. So everybody, this is
Speaker 1: a new healthy thing to do. Drink water out of
Speaker 1: plastic bottles. Oh turns out no, don't do it. That
Speaker 1: kills you faster.
Speaker 3: Way worse in New Okay. So you're out. You know
Speaker 3: you can. You can do all the stuff in the woods.
Speaker 3: If you had to bind something you're building, you need
Speaker 3: to stick one thing to another thing. What would be
Speaker 3: your dream discovery in the woods? What is a natural
Speaker 3: glue or ceiling? Or we're building ooh Oxy.
Speaker 2: What part of the country do both of you hail from?
Speaker 2: I know, Kurt, so you are from my side of
Speaker 2: the of the woods, or at least you did stuff
Speaker 2: in upstate New York.
Speaker 1: Yes, upstate New York, New Jersey. Scotti's from Maryland. You're
Speaker 1: in Ohio?
Speaker 3: Correct?
Speaker 2: Oh okay. So have you guys seen osage oranges aka
Speaker 2: monkey balls? Those big, oblong green balls that you sometimes
Speaker 2: find in the woods and kids love to throw them
Speaker 2: at things. Y yeah, yes, yeah, those.
Speaker 3: Guys and eggs or something.
Speaker 2: Yes, they look like big old alien eggs, like wrinkly
Speaker 2: little alien brains. I guess in the South they call
Speaker 2: them horse apples. Please don't feed them to your horse.
Speaker 2: They are filled with latexy goo. And when I was
Speaker 2: a small feral child at my Montssori school, we were
Speaker 2: allowed to build forts during recess, and that goop was
Speaker 2: liquid gold. Every fall, people people ran businesses, stabbing them
Speaker 2: and bleeding them of their late taxi glue. So I
Speaker 2: don't know. We could glue leaves to the walls of
Speaker 2: our forts.
Speaker 1: Oh that's so awesome, so.
Speaker 2: Much so yes, O sh orange mclaura palmifera. If you're
Speaker 2: nasty or a.
Speaker 1: Botanist, and now do you have a do you have
Speaker 1: a botany degree at all?
Speaker 2: So I studied environmental science and theater, which makes me
Speaker 2: make perfect sense.
Speaker 1: It does, yes, it does. That's amazing.
Speaker 2: Honestly, go bucks. If I don't say it, they take
Speaker 2: my degrees away if I don't take a box every
Speaker 2: time they're mentioned big school, big into the sportball. My
Speaker 2: like big secret is that I am low key such
Speaker 2: a huge college football fan. I did not miss a
Speaker 2: home game my entire undergraduate career at the Ohio State University.
Speaker 1: Nice. My mother in law is a huge college football fan,
Speaker 1: and so now my seven year old has become a
Speaker 1: college football.
Speaker 2: Start on.
Speaker 1: But I'm just like in the middle, just being like,
Speaker 1: all right, let's do it. That's fine.
Speaker 3: But those big programs, especially Ohio State, University of Georgia,
Speaker 3: the big ones, the ones that sell those one hundred
Speaker 3: thousand seat stadiums on every other weekend. When you go
Speaker 3: to those universities, they always are building new labs, new gyms,
Speaker 3: new dorms, Like it does fund academian this way, Like
Speaker 3: I'm sure your environmentals I would hope your environment studies
Speaker 3: buildings were new or more modern buildings. Because there goes
Speaker 3: that football team like going ten and one every season,
Speaker 3: sometimes eleven or zero. It does weird, Like I was
Speaker 3: always envious I went to state school. I went to
Speaker 3: UMass who used to have a great basketball team, but
Speaker 3: the years I were there did not, And you could
Speaker 3: feel the budget cuts of a D one school without
Speaker 3: huge athletic department, which is a shame, but it does
Speaker 3: fund other things on campus for people that hate spores.
Speaker 3: Oh big exactly.
Speaker 2: Any if any sports haters are out there, rest assured
Speaker 2: that the theater department. The theater department got a brand
Speaker 2: new building exactly at the end of my time at
Speaker 2: Ohio State. And that's not a thing that a lot
Speaker 2: of theater programs say these.
Speaker 3: No, maybe at Amber's College the theater departments getting the
Speaker 3: football team some helmets, but I don't think they've won
Speaker 3: a game in like thirty five years. So that's fine too.
Speaker 3: We're all different, different strokes for different folks. I have
Speaker 3: a fun one for you. So part of being a vegan,
Speaker 3: you know, not the main thing about being a vegan,
Speaker 3: but part of it is loving animals and not wanting
Speaker 3: bad things to happen to them. So Corey Corey the
Speaker 3: Steel Feather sent this in thank you, Corey Corey the
Speaker 3: steel Feather. I mean, I think if Corey Corey something
Speaker 3: and then their handle is the steel Feather, the steel Feather.
Speaker 3: This was in People dot Com, hilariously written by maryon Watts,
Speaker 3: who is the best in the biz. She's really good.
Speaker 3: Woman says she won the lottery, then dumped her boyfriend
Speaker 3: who insisted his dog deserved a trust fund.
Speaker 2: What yeah, yeah, yeah, that there was so much to unpack.
Speaker 1: There's a lot to unpack.
Speaker 3: A good, good story, Thank you the steel feather.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: A woman says her relationship with her ex boyfriend ended
Speaker 3: after he got barking mad. She didn't want to share
Speaker 3: her lottery winnings with his dog again maryon Watts Best
Speaker 3: in the bizz So in a recent post online, a
Speaker 3: woman claimed that her relationship soured after she won a lottery.
Speaker 3: This is the most interesting detail this whole thing, because
Speaker 3: I bet you were thinking it was millions of dollars
Speaker 3: she won.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was assuming, yes.
Speaker 3: After she won the lottery, netting fifty thousand dollars.
Speaker 2: Okay, so that's less than a lot of human trust funds. Yeah,
Speaker 2: were there children also vuying for this money? I'm starting
Speaker 2: to understand.
Speaker 3: Yes, exactly. After taxes, you're bringing home a cool twenty
Speaker 3: eight k. That's a good amount of money. That can
Speaker 3: get a lot of people out of a lot of debts.
Speaker 3: That gets you your car fixed, that gets all your
Speaker 3: bills paid, that gets your credit cards debt.
Speaker 1: But it doesn't get your dog a trust fund. No,
Speaker 1: that's not dog trust fund money. Dog trust fund money's
Speaker 1: over ten million. That's where exact dog Trust fund money starts.
Speaker 2: Yeah, unless your pet will be living like the cats
Speaker 2: and the aristocrats. Okay, it isn't don't do it. It's
Speaker 2: not worth it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and we love we love dogs, we love all.
Speaker 3: Oh yes, pigs versus people. I'm going pigs all day.
Speaker 3: Are you kidding?
Speaker 2: They're so smart?
Speaker 3: They're so smart. So here quote she says, before I won,
Speaker 3: my boyfriend, who's a twenty nine year old male, and
Speaker 3: I would always joke about how if I ever hit
Speaker 3: hit it big, I had split it three ways between
Speaker 3: me and him and his dog, Baxter. She wrote, Baxter
Speaker 3: is a golden tree, great dog, and I love it.
Speaker 3: Great dogs, and I love him. But I always thought,
Speaker 3: you know, it was just a joke. However, once she won,
Speaker 3: she said her boyfriend became dead serious about Baxter getting
Speaker 3: a share of the money.
Speaker 1: He wants a third of the money to go to Baxter. Correct,
Speaker 1: he is Baxter doing?
Speaker 3: What is he doing? He's living fourteen defensive habits?
Speaker 2: Has Baxter developed?
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, you could feed dogs just cheap good
Speaker 3: food and they go, thank you, thank you so much exactly.
Speaker 2: No, Baxter is like, I don't know. They gave him
Speaker 2: wagu or something, and now he's just like Kimball.
Speaker 3: He's a foodie for whom.
Speaker 1: But also he's a golden retrieve, you pope on the ground,
Speaker 1: he's gonna eat it and wag his tail.
Speaker 3: Dogs, they sure are. My boyfriend insisted that I had
Speaker 3: promised that Baxter deserves ten thousand dollars in a dog
Speaker 3: trust fund for future vet visits, Bill's toys and whatever
Speaker 3: he needs. She writes, I told him that's ridiculous. Baxter's dog,
Speaker 3: he doesn't need a trust fund. I'm I'm leaning in
Speaker 3: her direction. I'll say it that way instead, she said,
Speaker 3: her boyfriend started calling her selfish. He says, it's not
Speaker 3: about the dog. It's about me keeping promises, and it
Speaker 3: shows that I don't take our relationship seriously. This is
Speaker 3: a red flag machine gun that is just firing a
Speaker 3: spray into the air.
Speaker 2: For a second. He had me because I'm like, oh,
Speaker 2: you guys joked about it, Like, yeah, you can say
Speaker 2: it was a joke, but like the idea of you
Speaker 2: winning the lottery was also a joke. You know, strange
Speaker 2: things happen all the time. But no, no, the selfish
Speaker 2: and okay, no back on her side.
Speaker 3: Also, if I won fifty million dollars. Maybe I would
Speaker 3: give a dog a ten thousand dollars trust fund. Absolutely,
Speaker 3: medical bills are coming one day.
Speaker 2: One way, fine one or another.
Speaker 3: Fifty k trust fund for anybody that's trust fun.
Speaker 1: You can't all you.
Speaker 2: Can't go to college on that money anymore, not the
Speaker 2: whole thing.
Speaker 3: That's one year of college. Yeah, that's so depressing. By
Speaker 3: the way, that is so depressing. Send this dog to college.
Speaker 3: Maybe this guy's got the wrong idea if he said,
Speaker 3: I want my dog to go to the Ohio State University.
Speaker 2: Honestly, we could use an air bud situation on our
Speaker 2: basketball team.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no rule that says the dog can't play
Speaker 1: precisely precisely.
Speaker 3: What a great conceit of an entoi. There's nothing in
Speaker 3: the rule book that says. Still, the woman says she
Speaker 3: did treat backs her to a pretty fancy dog bed
Speaker 3: and some expensive treats with the money. That's see, that's
Speaker 3: how she sees the deal. Yes, we're on her side,
Speaker 3: but she said her ex demand said that doesn't count
Speaker 3: because it wasn't an official part of the ten thousand
Speaker 3: dollars I supposedly promised. No, No, the original poster even
Speaker 3: said that her boyfriend mentioned going to a lawyer to
Speaker 3: set up a trust fund for the dog to make
Speaker 3: this official. What she says, I feel like I'm living
Speaker 3: in the Twilight zone, she concluded, going on to ask
Speaker 3: others if they really thought she was in the wrong.
Speaker 3: The answer from social media was a resounding no. The
Speaker 3: woman read it, Yeah, I know, Reddit got in there.
Speaker 3: The woman updated her claim, saying that her boyfriend double
Speaker 3: down on his way of thinking and that ultimately she
Speaker 3: broke up with him. Quote. I told him that this
Speaker 3: whole situation raised huge red flags, and after two years together,
Speaker 3: I can't believe he's acting like this, she wrote. If
Speaker 3: he's this unreasonable about something so absurd, I cannot imagine
Speaker 3: dealing with more serious issues down the road.
Speaker 2: Exactly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the two year the two year mark is where
Speaker 1: you make calls like that, exactly. Have definitely made calls
Speaker 1: like that at the two year mark, where something happens
Speaker 1: and I go that is I'm just taking that as
Speaker 1: an example of how you will act in the future.
Speaker 1: And we are no.
Speaker 2: Longer going to be together, right, because I don't know
Speaker 2: people can can hide their kookiness for a year or so.
Speaker 2: Once you hit year two, it just gets exhausting. Everybody's
Speaker 2: showing their true colors. Everyone's putting their cards on the table,
Speaker 2: and his cards were dull. Trust fun And that is
Speaker 2: a wild card.
Speaker 1: It's a wild wild card because if he went to
Speaker 1: a lawyer, a lawyer would say a dog cannot have
Speaker 1: a trust fund.
Speaker 2: I cannot wait to ask my attorney fiance about this
Speaker 2: when he gets home from work.
Speaker 3: I mean, you might be able to open one. But again,
Speaker 3: fifty thousand dollars after taxes is if they gave ten
Speaker 3: thousand dollars. Yeah, they each get ten thousand dollars. So
Speaker 3: she should even give her boyfriend ten thousands, should give me?
Speaker 1: No, it's her money. She shouldn't be like, if you
Speaker 1: will have we'll go on vacation or something like that.
Speaker 1: So this is how you handle this. You go, let's
Speaker 1: make the dog trust fund. She goes, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I'm not doing that, and you're like, oh, yeah, I guess.
Speaker 1: So that's it.
Speaker 2: That's it. Conversation terminated. They could I don't know, they
Speaker 2: could make a thousand dollars health savings account for that dog. Great,
Speaker 2: just for future vet things. Yeah, because that is just
Speaker 2: a smart thing. To do. Invest it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then you can laugh, buy thirty thousand dollars
Speaker 3: worth of scratch tickets and quadruple your money overnight. It
Speaker 3: would be fun for the dog to scratch at them too.
Speaker 3: Get the whole family out there with pennies in their paws.
Speaker 1: Here's what you do. Here is what you do.
Speaker 3: You get.
Speaker 1: You go to the pet insurance people and you say
Speaker 1: how much for a lifetime insurance plan for this dog? Yes,
Speaker 1: I bet you it's fifteen hundred dollars exactly.
Speaker 2: And then you go to that dog and say, okay, sweetie,
Speaker 2: get as sick as you want.
Speaker 1: I canceled my I had pet insurance for I had
Speaker 1: pet insurance for ten years. I canceled it three months
Speaker 1: before my dog needed knee surgery on both knees.
Speaker 2: That is the way, as someone who used to work
Speaker 2: for a dog company, that is the way it always goes.
Speaker 1: Because they start upping the premiums and I was like,
Speaker 1: I can't pay this much money for the dog. We've
Speaker 1: never used the insurance. And I should have thought, no,
Speaker 1: this is when you'll start using the insurance. That's your
Speaker 1: dog more Now.
Speaker 2: Opotello was like, it's my time to shine.
Speaker 3: Go my goodness, Curdie. But you want to tease us
Speaker 3: into some thumbs ups.
Speaker 1: Bud, Yeah, I will.
Speaker 3: Here we go.
Speaker 1: Bing and look at this. I will continue the lottery
Speaker 1: with a man who found twenty dollars on the ground
Speaker 1: uses it to buy a one million dollar winning lottery ticket.
Speaker 3: See that's all these people needed to do.
Speaker 2: It's just see it's just that easy.
Speaker 3: Uh okay. So these are our thumbs up. These are
Speaker 3: real user submissions where they just root somebody else on.
Speaker 3: It's always nice. Kayla is thumbing herself up for graduating
Speaker 3: with two master's degrees, one in legal studies, the other
Speaker 3: in psychology. Bananas helped her get through grad school and
Speaker 3: she's continuing on to get her PhD. Thumbs up, Kayla.
Speaker 2: Thumbs up, Kayla, that is that is awesome.
Speaker 3: Were you a double major Alexis or just a major minor?
Speaker 2: I was a double major A lot of long days.
Speaker 2: I can only imagine what double master's degrees.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it would make.
Speaker 2: Your day look like because double undergrad degrees was already
Speaker 2: five hours of sleep maximum A lot.
Speaker 3: Yes, I just wanted to thumbs up. Tina and Liam Williams.
Speaker 3: They came to our banios live in Seattle. Kurt and Tina.
Speaker 3: I hope everything's looking good and you're doing well feeling healthy.
Speaker 3: Thumbs up to Sarah Painter, who is my bestie, and Boulder,
Speaker 3: who completed her poll watching training so she'll be watching
Speaker 3: on election day to make no on her words, sananers
Speaker 3: take place, so good forew Sarah Painter, go Maple leaves
Speaker 3: thumbs up. Meredith Malarch cool name. What's the thumb her
Speaker 3: boyfriend r J reins up. Now, that's a good name.
Speaker 2: That's a good name. That's a comic book character.
Speaker 3: Name, mar Jay rains. He is an incredible tattoo artist.
Speaker 3: She's thumbing up his incredible tattoo art. Mayor, that's what
Speaker 3: she wrote. Mayor says that Kurt, you and I should
Speaker 3: visit Traverse City, Michigan or yeah.
Speaker 1: I guess Traverse.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Traverse City, Michigan for the local wine, local beer,
Speaker 3: and local spirit industries there, and for Sleeping Bear National Park.
Speaker 1: I've been to Traverse City many, many times. It is
Speaker 1: a delightful little town.
Speaker 3: Well, I bet it's a good place to forage too.
Speaker 3: Sleeping Bear right goes wrong? Right?
Speaker 2: Absolutely beautiful.
Speaker 3: Oh, and last but not least, another great name Samantha
Speaker 3: Joy is thumbing her retired dad Joey Walker up so
Speaker 3: murder bananas are murdering no bananimals. He is listened to this.
Speaker 3: He has a new true crime podcast. He is a
Speaker 3: two time Karate World champion, retired police officer in Total Badass.
Speaker 3: He as a true crime podcast and I checked they
Speaker 3: posted a new episode four days ago, so it's still active.
Speaker 3: It is called Serial Defense and it reviews cases from
Speaker 3: law enforcement perspectives. As I said, he's a retired cop,
Speaker 3: and then he provides life saving tactics that could be
Speaker 3: used in those type of crimes if any of us
Speaker 3: were ever in danger. Look at that now, that is
Speaker 3: a great idea for a true crime podcast. So if
Speaker 3: you're a victim of this type of crime, he provides
Speaker 3: you with the way to fight your way out of it.
Speaker 3: Samantha wants she wanted to.
Speaker 1: Know everyone run away what I do for every single
Speaker 1: one or my grab my put my hands on my
Speaker 1: hips and bend at the knees and moan because that
Speaker 1: is what I did the last time.
Speaker 3: Some would.
Speaker 1: Just act weird and they will leave you alone.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Mine is the verse psychology where I get too
Speaker 3: excited about the crime happening for me and act like
Speaker 3: I'm a part of it, and we go try to
Speaker 3: get somebody else. And then I run away, like, yeah,
Speaker 3: while you're kidnapping me, let's go get somebody else. This
Speaker 3: is cool, man, I've always wanted to do this. I'm
Speaker 3: pretty strong. Let's go for a big guy. And then
Speaker 3: I run away. And Samantha wanted to know what we
Speaker 3: record bananas on so her dad can sound even better.
Speaker 3: Our mics are sure SM seven dbs and we record.
Speaker 3: We plug those into zoom H four n pros. So
Speaker 3: there you go, sure SM seven dbs and into zoom
Speaker 3: h fourn pros and we sound pretty good. I think,
Speaker 3: I think so.
Speaker 1: And so I got a recommendation for microphone companies. Why
Speaker 1: don't you name your microphone like the good One. E's
Speaker 1: a name, especially for podcasters.
Speaker 3: This is the good one.
Speaker 1: Just get that, sure the good one, quote unquote.
Speaker 3: I agree.
Speaker 1: All right, here it is, and of course we are
Speaker 1: here with Alexis Nicole Nelson. You can find her online,
Speaker 1: of course, at Black Forager, on Instagram and on TikTok.
Speaker 2: Correct that's me, oh on TikTok, it's at Alexis Nicole
Speaker 2: because I didn't think the kids liked plants when I
Speaker 2: started it.
Speaker 3: All right, but they do. And I watched your Ted
Speaker 3: Talk earlier this week. If the animals out there who
Speaker 3: liked Ted Talks, Alexis is possibly the funniest one ever made.
Speaker 1: That's awesome.
Speaker 3: Oh it's good. And it's also good because the audience
Speaker 3: are a bunch of smarty pants people who I wouldn't
Speaker 3: say are the world's greatest comedy crowd. No, Alexis's sense
Speaker 3: of humor was rising so far above their heads that
Speaker 3: I was laughing at them, not laughing at some of
Speaker 3: the jokes because in their head they're trying to outsmart
Speaker 3: silly and you just can't do it.
Speaker 2: You just can't do it. You just can't do it.
Speaker 2: Sometimes you just got a high kick at Bill Gates.
Speaker 3: Yes, it was great. Anyways, it's a great, great Ted Talk.
Speaker 3: If you're the kind of person that likes those, make
Speaker 3: sure you look it up. It's a really good one.
Speaker 1: That's got to be a hard room.
Speaker 2: It is. Yeah, I have never been more nervous in
Speaker 2: my life. Also, when they asked me if I wanted
Speaker 2: to do it, I was like, yes, let me take
Speaker 2: this thing. That is famously hard and make it harder.
Speaker 2: I'm going to cook a dish in real time while
Speaker 2: I'm giving my talk with a recipe that has to
Speaker 2: do with what I'm giving my talk on, So don't
Speaker 2: do that.
Speaker 3: It was good because it was not. It really wasn't
Speaker 3: even so much about forging. It was about veganism, and
Speaker 3: I thought that you were extremely consider it about a
Speaker 3: lot of people when they think vegan, they think of
Speaker 3: like you said, that's sort of an amalgamation of all
Speaker 3: the annoying vegans they've ever met, telling them that they're
Speaker 3: bad people and wrong, and then comparing real bacon to
Speaker 3: vegan bacon, and you're never going to win that debate.
Speaker 3: It's never So introduce a brand new vegan food that
Speaker 3: tastes great, that can't be compared.
Speaker 2: Exactly, and encourage people to make little changes, because anytime
Speaker 2: that you are like, hey, change your entire life and livelihood,
Speaker 2: people are gonna be like, whoa there, Tiger. I actually
Speaker 2: want to do that, even less than I already did,
Speaker 2: because you told me to.
Speaker 3: That's right. I remember when the TV industry tried to
Speaker 3: get us to buy curve TVs and I was like, oh,
Speaker 3: fuck yourself, there's no way, you know what, I was
Speaker 3: right about that way?
Speaker 1: Why would we I don't never have they even give
Speaker 1: us a reason why. They're just like this is it?
Speaker 3: By it?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 3: New thing?
Speaker 2: Do it? Do it?
Speaker 3: They just ran out of new ideas. But also it's like,
Speaker 3: you're probably living alone. You don't have anybody sitting to
Speaker 3: the left and right of you more than four feet.
Speaker 3: This was just you and me.
Speaker 2: Oh that's how I thought about Quibbi. Everyone was like, no, no,
Speaker 2: do it. No, I know, I think I'll be okay.
Speaker 1: It was so fascinating the amount of money that it was.
Speaker 1: I was like, I kept saying, I was like, because
Speaker 1: that idea specifically had been tried by three to four
Speaker 1: other companies who had then gone under within one or
Speaker 1: two years. And I was like, they got to these
Speaker 1: people have so much money, they gotta have thought that
Speaker 1: they must know something we don't know, and they did.
Speaker 1: They're just dumb.
Speaker 2: It was just just a bunch of groups of people
Speaker 2: being like, no, no, but we're better than the last people.
Speaker 3: Yeah, were amazing.
Speaker 1: It was absolutely amazing. And anyway, everybody pick up Scotty's
Speaker 1: Quibbi show.
Speaker 3: Yeah, bad Ideas. It's onku right now, bad ideas.
Speaker 2: Ten straight minutes of bad ideas.
Speaker 3: That's about all it was worth, to be honest, it
Speaker 3: was great. They did send us around the world. We
Speaker 3: went to Peru and to the Bahamas. We went up
Speaker 3: the end.
Speaker 2: That's amazing on.
Speaker 3: Quibi and we knew it wasn't gonna work. But they
Speaker 3: took an hour long format that we had been pitching
Speaker 3: the NBC, to Fox, to all the streamers, and we
Speaker 3: walked into Quibi and they said, we'll buy ten right now,
Speaker 3: but they have to be seven to ten minutes. And
Speaker 3: so imagine taking an hour episode pitch and going, how
Speaker 3: do we just do one thing and keep it interesting?
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3: So we knew. Thank god, when Quibi fell, they sold
Speaker 3: all their nonscripted all the reality shows to Roku, where
Speaker 3: it found a new audience that was a much better audience.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Roku is Roku thirty flirty and thriving.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I really only wanted to say thriving, but I can't
Speaker 2: say it without saying.
Speaker 3: Golly, yeah, exactly, I get it. But we knew going in,
Speaker 3: so we like looked at you, Adam and I were like, Okay,
Speaker 3: this thing's gonna fold let's get paid, let's travel as friends,
Speaker 3: and yeah we won Quibi. We did the best thing
Speaker 3: you could do. We traveled with friends around the world
Speaker 3: and never had to pay a penny out of pocket.
Speaker 2: No, you're an American hero. You did what I wish
Speaker 2: I could have also time, which is like, well, while
Speaker 2: they are throwing just groundles of dollars, let's just go
Speaker 2: have a guitime.
Speaker 3: That is forrigin the Seychelles. How about that?
Speaker 2: Yeah that sounds that sounds perfect and very necessary.
Speaker 1: That's why whenever I hear of a new thing. But
Speaker 1: I'm just like, get in early, get in early when
Speaker 1: they have that first round of investor money, get them
Speaker 1: money and get out.
Speaker 3: That is all you need to do. Bingo all right?
Speaker 1: So right, yeah, I'm making TV for watches right.
Speaker 2: Now, just kidd.
Speaker 3: Television, all right.
Speaker 1: So, uh, we had that man who found twenty dollars
Speaker 1: on the ground used to buy a million dollar winning
Speaker 1: lottery ticket. The story is in the title, That's what happened.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go and do another one because this
Speaker 1: one I've been wanting to talk about. But it feels
Speaker 1: like what used to what what what my old English
Speaker 1: teacher used to call a brown paper bag book. It
Speaker 1: is not something you show that you're reading to other people.
Speaker 1: This is in Mashable dot Com. I don't know if
Speaker 1: this is legit, like I searched for many different places
Speaker 1: where it was re published. It is a real company.
Speaker 1: But here's the here's the title, talking in Dreams. Question
Speaker 1: Mark scientists achieve first ever communication between two people in
Speaker 1: their sleep.
Speaker 3: Huh.
Speaker 1: This was written by the Mashable News staff. Nobody wanted
Speaker 1: to Nobody wanted to take of this.
Speaker 2: It was a group effort.
Speaker 1: Scientists of California have turned a sci fi idea into
Speaker 1: a reality. A company called rem Space has successfully achieved
Speaker 1: two way communication between two people who were both asleep
Speaker 1: and lucid dreaming. Lucid dreamings, when someone becomes aware that
Speaker 1: they are dreaming, can even control parts of the dream.
Speaker 1: This happens during rem stage of sleep, which is when
Speaker 1: our dreams are the most vivid. The two participants in
Speaker 1: the experiment were both experienced lucid dreamers, meaning they had
Speaker 1: developed the skill to be aware that they were dreaming.
Speaker 1: The experiment took place on September twenty fourth. Daily Mail
Speaker 1: reported see it's being reported by the Daily Mail.
Speaker 3: It's already suspicions.
Speaker 1: Before falling asleep, the participants were hooked up to special
Speaker 1: equipment that tracked their brain activity and sleep patterns in
Speaker 1: real time. This data was sent to a central system
Speaker 1: that monitored their dreams as they unfolded. I don't know
Speaker 1: if you can monitor dreams. That's already the first question.
Speaker 2: The first thing. I'm just like, we're so much closer
Speaker 2: to inception than I thought we were.
Speaker 1: All of this, yeah, exactly, I read, let's go. The
Speaker 1: first participant entered a lucid dream in the system, recognizing
Speaker 1: the brain activity linked to this state, sent a random
Speaker 1: word to the dreamer. The word was from a language
Speaker 1: created specifically for the experiment.
Speaker 3: This is why no way call.
Speaker 1: The language is called remio. The word jollick was transmitted
Speaker 1: through earbuds while earbuds while the participant was still dreaming.
Speaker 1: In this dream, the person heard the word and repeated
Speaker 1: it out loud. Sensors captured this spoken word and sent
Speaker 1: it back to the system. I don't know what censors
Speaker 1: can capture a word spoken in a dream, So this
Speaker 1: is where its sentenced like it falls apart. A few
Speaker 1: minutes later, the second participant also entered a lucid dream.
Speaker 1: The system detected the brain activity indicating this and sent
Speaker 1: the same word jolick to her through earbuds. In her dream,
Speaker 1: she heard the word and repeated it as well. When
Speaker 1: she woke up, she confirmed that the word she heard
Speaker 1: in her dream was jeollic, marking the first second the
Speaker 1: first successful communication between two people in their dreams.
Speaker 3: I see that, I think so. I thought you meant
Speaker 3: they were talking.
Speaker 2: To each other to each other same and I was
Speaker 2: like what I thought.
Speaker 3: But what they're saying is they can here understand and
Speaker 3: respond and see lucid dreaming. That kind of makes sense
Speaker 3: to me. That seems that seems possible.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know, this doesn't because it also it
Speaker 1: almost seems like this is not what the they said happened.
Speaker 1: This is just someone saying a word while someone dreams,
Speaker 1: and then they wake up and they know what word
Speaker 1: was said. They're suggesting that these two people somehow communicated,
Speaker 1: and then then the Mashable staff actually correctly report on this.
Speaker 3: I look.
Speaker 1: The thing is I look up rem space and remspace
Speaker 1: is a real company. It has a you know, a website.
Speaker 1: You know also, I have a website.
Speaker 2: Means it's real. There's no lying allowed on.
Speaker 1: The internet, right exactly. I have Scotty's getting petent dot org.
Speaker 1: Yeah it's doing fine, but that doesn't mean that I've
Speaker 1: updated it.
Speaker 2: Also, I really wish they had chosen a real word,
Speaker 2: because that's giving. Oh they said something in gibberish while
Speaker 2: they were a spape and everyone's like, no, no, that
Speaker 2: was the word, right, a language. It was a language
Speaker 2: you've never heard.
Speaker 3: Really wrote that sounds like somebody snoring a little bit.
Speaker 3: It sounds a little bit. It sounds a little bit
Speaker 3: like a snoring sound. Okay, Because we've gotten stories in
Speaker 3: the past about people that were in comas, both medically
Speaker 3: induced and non medically induced, who were able to communicate
Speaker 3: using brain waves, and that was sort of mind blowing
Speaker 3: to prove they were there was a consciousness in there
Speaker 3: even though they were asleep or in comatose. So I
Speaker 3: guess I could see what they're doing here.
Speaker 1: They did do that, did They did have that one
Speaker 1: story that we did do, which was a person listening
Speaker 1: to Pink Floyd while they slept and their brain waves
Speaker 1: actually showed the music on there and then they played
Speaker 1: the music. They played the music that was in the
Speaker 1: brain waves and you could act and it was so crazy.
Speaker 1: It sounded like a very faint, underwater version of Pink Floyd.
Speaker 1: It was pretty crazy. So the fact that they can
Speaker 1: do that, maybe they're using that tex I don't know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess I'm too dumb to see what the
Speaker 3: next phase of this is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and why we would want it exactly, I
Speaker 1: know exactly what it is. Okay, it's advertising.
Speaker 3: While we said no.
Speaker 5: Immediately, they're just trying to ruin everything. It's honey, wake up,
Speaker 5: I want Arby's right now. Damn, that's very interesting.
Speaker 2: You just wake up singing the Chili's baby back ribs.
Speaker 3: So see that. I'm okay with that.
Speaker 2: It is really catchy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's if anybody's ever dated, or or has
Speaker 3: ever slept next to somebody who has night terrors, who
Speaker 3: who's a sleepwalker, who is a sleep eater, who's like
Speaker 3: I've had, or just a talker. Like the conversations I've
Speaker 3: had with people that are sleep talkers are fascinating. I've
Speaker 3: definitely talked about a couple on the pods. But yeah,
Speaker 3: I dated someone that would eat entire meals while they
Speaker 3: were asleep and not know it in the morning, and
Speaker 3: then I'd be like, you want to go get breakfast
Speaker 3: or lunch and they'd be not hungry. And see, I
Speaker 3: didn't know at first because I was asleep that they
Speaker 3: had gone and eat an entire meals And they didn't
Speaker 3: really know either because they would just come back to
Speaker 3: ben go to sleep, and the wake up feeling full.
Speaker 1: And then you have you have very angry roommates at
Speaker 1: you and you don't understand why they're so angry because
Speaker 1: they're not good at communicating.
Speaker 3: That's right, and that's very aggressive.
Speaker 2: Post it notes can look at you so far.
Speaker 3: That is real. Kurt knows that that is from a
Speaker 3: real experience, and nobody's making fun of this person at all.
Speaker 3: I'm not making fun of this XXX from years ago.
Speaker 3: But yeah, she would eat a dozen eggs at one
Speaker 3: am without knowing, or one time an entire barrel inter sleep,
Speaker 3: completely unconscious. A loaf of bread, just a whole loaf
Speaker 3: of bread bread. We were asleep, and then my roommate
Speaker 3: like a week later would be like, hey, man, can
Speaker 3: you just pay me for that bread? And I was like, oh,
Speaker 3: I didn't eat any bread, and he's like, well, there's
Speaker 3: a whole loaf missing. Uh. Oh, the eggs is even
Speaker 3: better example because the person I was hating was a
Speaker 3: vegan and so she didn't eat eggs or meat at all,
Speaker 3: and that was what was going miss cover. Yeah, and
Speaker 3: so I'm like, I'm like, am I drinking so hard
Speaker 3: that I'm eating twelve egg omelets? Like I couldn't figure
Speaker 3: out what's going on? Whole meals, I mean whole orders
Speaker 3: of Chinese food and stuff. And so what happened is, uh,
Speaker 3: it was an honest mystery that we were like, is
Speaker 3: somebody coming up the fire escape and eating food?
Speaker 2: Like I'm eating food and then escaping into the night right?
Speaker 3: And then I read all the no sleeps and creepy
Speaker 3: pastas and stuff. So I'm like, is somebody frogging in
Speaker 3: my house? Is somebody living in the walls or behind
Speaker 3: the cabinets, are in the ceiling? Like it was a
Speaker 3: true mystery.
Speaker 2: And then slender Man is eating your eggs?
Speaker 1: Yeah, honestly staying so slender.
Speaker 3: Wait, Kurt, you should be slender Man extual for Halloween,
Speaker 3: but just just a median version of slender Man. And
Speaker 3: so one night in the middle of the night, I
Speaker 3: was like, I gotta figure this out. And so I
Speaker 3: was sleeping more lightly, and then I heard like pots
Speaker 3: and pans and stuff in the kitchen. So I woke up.
Speaker 3: My girlfriend at the time was not sleeping next to me,
Speaker 3: and I like walked carefully into the kitchen and she
Speaker 3: was there in what she had fallen asleep in, which
Speaker 3: was like just underwear nothing else and eating an entire meal.
Speaker 3: And I was like hey, and she didn't respond. I
Speaker 3: was like, hey, are you okay? And she like looked
Speaker 3: up at me, totally confused, like absolutely sleepwalking, like not
Speaker 3: didn't remize me, walked directly by me, walked back in
Speaker 3: the bedroom, and went to sleep. But it took it
Speaker 3: took like three or four months to figure this out.
Speaker 3: I know that seems like a long time, but I
Speaker 3: just did not think it was coming from inside the house.
Speaker 3: So I wrote my roommate a check for four hundred
Speaker 3: dollars and apologized profusely, and yeah again, like this is
Speaker 3: a real affliction that she had, But it was like
Speaker 3: a mystery. It was a mystery. It was just nothing
Speaker 3: but empathy and support for people going through those. But
Speaker 3: all that being said is I witnessed somebody preparing meals unconscious,
Speaker 3: So why couldn't they talk in their un conscious if
Speaker 3: they can function.
Speaker 2: That's so fair, that's so fair. Crazy, right, did she
Speaker 2: ever dream about eating the meals or it was just.
Speaker 3: Like nothing she did, And so we ended up figuring out.
Speaker 3: She ended up talking to I think a psychiatrist, but
Speaker 3: she ended up like talking through it, and they were like, yeah,
Speaker 3: this can happen. People have this thing, and so that
Speaker 3: I know this is crazy. But the first thing they
Speaker 3: told us was to kind of hide the nonperishables in
Speaker 3: the house. So box of cereal you would take it
Speaker 3: from the cereal cupboard and put it in the living
Speaker 3: room where I know, like on a bookshelf, so without
Speaker 3: telling her. So it kind of like they go in,
Speaker 3: they look around, they don't find what they're sleep looking for,
Speaker 3: and then they just go back to bed. And then
Speaker 3: eventually she worked her way out of it. But it
Speaker 3: was so weird to wake up with somebody like do
Speaker 3: you want to go to that cute little cafe and
Speaker 3: get a coffee and breakfast? Like nope, in the least, sir,
Speaker 3: very interesting.
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, that's a while.
Speaker 3: Bless her. I have a question for you, Alexis, before
Speaker 3: we get out of here. So let's talk bananas a
Speaker 3: great foraging food, right, I mean that must be one
Speaker 3: of the great things you can find and eat in
Speaker 3: this world. So any in America.
Speaker 2: I have some good news and I have some bad news.
Speaker 3: Great.
Speaker 2: The good news is for all of our friends in
Speaker 2: southern California and in southern Florida, people love growing bananas
Speaker 2: as ornamentals. In those areas. You have likely walked past
Speaker 2: a banana flower in bloom and maybe not even noticed it.
Speaker 2: So make friends with your neighbors. A lot of times
Speaker 2: they're not even like the specific cultivar that we have
Speaker 2: in our grocery store, so you might even get to
Speaker 2: try a new banana which is ooh fun and shiny.
Speaker 2: The bad news is I'm allergic to bananas, so I
Speaker 2: can't speak on banana forgin. Not allergic to the podcast otherwise,
Speaker 2: I mean, I have my EpiPen beside me just in case.
Speaker 2: It would have been really rough to figure that out
Speaker 2: in real time. I'm glad no anafleaxis has happened during
Speaker 2: the course of the recording. I know, and I loved
Speaker 2: them as a little kid, and then one day, as
Speaker 2: like an eleven year old, I ate one with lunch,
Speaker 2: and bad things happened, and I've been afraid to try
Speaker 2: because I know. I know sometimes people grow out of allergies,
Speaker 2: but epipenz are really expended. Until that changes, I feel
Speaker 2: like I'm not going to test.
Speaker 3: The water will be your bananas. If that's okay, well
Speaker 3: your sbstitute bananas.
Speaker 2: Moving forward, Honestly, my life has gotten better and brighter
Speaker 2: for this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we better end it right now.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Tell everybody. Tell everybody where they can find you online,
Speaker 1: tell them everything about plug plug.
Speaker 3: Plug plug plug plug plug plug.
Speaker 2: If you are on Instagram or Facebook or that one
Speaker 2: app that used to be called Twitter, or any of
Speaker 2: the Twitter copycats, I am black Forager, no spaces, and
Speaker 2: that's Forger, not Forger. I wish I knew how to
Speaker 2: smell alas I do not, and that confuses a lot
Speaker 2: of people when I tell them my handle. If you
Speaker 2: are on the Tiki Talkies, I am Alexis and Nicole,
Speaker 2: and that is Nicole with a K, not a C.
Speaker 2: Thank you, mom.
Speaker 3: Oh, come on back when your book's coming out.
Speaker 2: We'd love to have you, please, I would love to
Speaker 2: I'll have to send you, guys some acorn cookies or
Speaker 2: some other hoodies from the book.
Speaker 1: Oh, that would be exciting.
Speaker 2: Oh, you guys have some of the best acorns in
Speaker 2: southern California.
Speaker 3: H I know, tell me about it. That's good to know.
Speaker 3: And Bananas. There you go. Bananas is an exactly right
Speaker 3: media production.
Speaker 1: Our producer and engineer is Katie Levine.
Speaker 3: The catchy Bananas theme song was composed and performed by Kahan.
Speaker 1: Artwork for Bananas was designed by Travis Millard, and.
Speaker 3: Our benevolent overlords are the great Karen Kilgareff and Georgia Hartstart.
Speaker 1: And Lisa Maggott is our full human, not a robot intern.
Speaker 3: My never, no,