1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:04,000 Speaker 1: Welcome everybody. Third hour play and buck Kicksoff now plays 2 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: off today back tomorrow. He sends his regards to all 3 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:11,559 Speaker 1: of you, and we have much to discuss here. We 4 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:16,480 Speaker 1: started the first hour with the biggest story, I would say, 5 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 1: in the country right now, despite the extensive efforts by 6 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: the Democrat media to make this story go away, despite 7 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 1: efforts by Wikipedia editors to remove the article from Wikipedia. 8 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:38,560 Speaker 1: Despite all of that, because we have shows like this one, 9 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 1: and because we have X, where there is not the 10 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 1: left wing elbow on this scale all the time, as 11 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 1: there are on so many of these other social media platforms, 12 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 1: and I'm curious. I basically stopped using for anything other 13 00:00:56,480 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 1: than just posting photos of ginger or speed like Instagram 14 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 1: and Facebook. I don't know if there's I assume they're 15 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 1: still doing the kind of political nonsense that they've always 16 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 1: been doing. But at least on X you can share 17 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 1: the truth. At least on X there's some chance of 18 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 1: finding out what's really going on. And so this story 19 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 1: of a Ukrainian refugee, Irena Zarutska, twenty three years old. 20 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 1: She's a beautiful young woman. On August twenty second, she 21 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 1: is heinously murdered by a maniac with a knife sitting 22 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 1: behind her. It's all on video, and it's just it 23 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 1: is true nightmare fuel. It's the worst kind of situation 24 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 1: because any one of us can be sitting anywhere and 25 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 1: there's supposed to be some belief that the system is 26 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 1: protecting us. I know it doesn't, but we're supposed to 27 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: believe at some level the system protects us, that dangerous 28 00:01:57,240 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 1: psychopaths who have proven themselves over and over to be 29 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 1: a danger of the public will be incarcerated, will no 30 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 1: longer be able to threaten the general public. But what 31 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: you say is that you have a situation like this 32 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 1: where the alleged murderer to Carlos Brown, a black man 33 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 1: who has been arrested thirteen times, including assaults previous assaults 34 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 1: against women, This man murdered this woman. She's a you 35 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:31,920 Speaker 1: can see in the video with the video is just 36 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:36,360 Speaker 1: harrowing to watch. She's a blonde haired, white girl. And 37 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 1: the media doesn't want to talk about this, even though 38 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 1: it's all over the internet. I mean, if you're judging 39 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 1: it by Internet focus, this is the biggest story in 40 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 1: the country right now. And one thing we talked about 41 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 1: in that first down, and if you missed it, I 42 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 1: would advise it please go back and listen, because I really, 43 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 1: I think laid it out and got into all the 44 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 1: different layers of the story. But one component of that 45 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 1: is when is it indicative of a broad When is 46 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 1: an incident? Let's put this say, when is a murder 47 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 1: national news? When is a murder national news? If it's 48 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: particularly heinous, as this clearly was, you tend to think 49 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: that maybe it will be national news. Depence, if it 50 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 1: is a murder of a black person by a white 51 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 1: person that is also heinous, the chance of it being 52 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 1: national news is essentially one hundred percent right. It will 53 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 1: turn into a story. In fact, it could just be 54 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:33,799 Speaker 1: a hoax hate crime, as we talked about with Jesse Smolett. 55 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 1: But if it is alleged that two white Trump voters 56 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 1: did something mean to a gay black man in Chicago, 57 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 1: it's it is walthall coverage national news. This happens again 58 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 1: and again. I understand we're not supposed to notice, but 59 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 1: the Democrats war on noticing has gone on law long enough. 60 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 1: We've noticed, we get this, we understand this dynamic. When 61 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 1: is something indicative of a broader problem? We have to 62 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 1: have a nation conversation about I talked to you about 63 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: all of the BLM cases. They'll discuss, Oh, this is 64 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 1: indicative of police and how police are racist and our 65 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 1: society is racist. And you say, well, hold on, no, 66 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 1: it's not. And first of all, on some of the 67 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 1: BLM cases, it was completely lawful use of force. But 68 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: put that aside. In what way is the elevation of 69 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:22,840 Speaker 1: George Floyd to near sainthood by the left, a career 70 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:25,159 Speaker 1: criminal who died of a fental overdose with a cop 71 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 1: with a knee on his back, his neck. In what 72 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: way does that advanced society's interest? It doesn't by telling 73 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 1: this story about us. Oh, it's that one incident in 74 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:37,719 Speaker 1: Minnesota means there should be riots all over the country, 75 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: race riots all over the country based on what It's 76 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: very rare for an unarmed black men to be killed 77 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,279 Speaker 1: by law enforcement in this country. This is a fact, 78 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 1: people can argue, but it's a fact very rare by 79 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 1: the numbers, And so why is it indicative of a 80 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:55,159 Speaker 1: broader conversation? You'll notice on the other side of things, 81 00:04:56,240 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 1: why is it that when a white woman is murdered 82 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 1: by a career criminal who is a black man. Why 83 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 1: is this not something that gets more attention? That is 84 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: what everyone is asking right now. That is what the 85 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:11,600 Speaker 1: conversation is, at least among people that want to take 86 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 1: a look at criminal justice with seriousness. And so that 87 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 1: brings me to this story of the Ukrainian girl who 88 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 1: was killed by this man who was again career criminal, 89 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 1: should not have been on the streets. Judges saw that 90 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 1: this was a problem, they decided not to act on it. 91 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 1: This isn't even the only story like this out there 92 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 1: right now. Again, this goes to our when is it 93 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 1: in dick When is there a bigger problem? When is 94 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 1: a systemic failure versus it's just a thing, a random 95 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 1: thing that happened, right If somebody is walking their dog 96 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 1: in my neighborhood and they are truly struck and we 97 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 1: get a lot of thunderlight lightning storms here, now they're 98 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 1: struck by lightning. Am I going to march out on 99 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 1: the streets and be angry about thunder and lightning? No, 100 00:05:56,920 --> 00:06:00,719 Speaker 1: it's a horrible random event, a sad event, tragic event. 101 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:03,359 Speaker 1: And I'd say, well sometimes people get struck by lightning. 102 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 1: You know, there's no systemic change to be had as 103 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:09,479 Speaker 1: a result of that other than you know, try to 104 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: not be out there in a really serious lightning storm. 105 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 1: But you know, who knows, right, Sometimes it's fine. Okay. 106 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 1: So we had that story about the Ukrainian girl, this 107 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 1: white Ukrainian girl. She's murdered by this guy. He's a 108 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:22,919 Speaker 1: career criminal. He's a black guy. He was known to 109 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 1: authorities for a long time. And okay, you say, well, Buck, 110 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 1: that's that's just one incident. Well, here's another incident from 111 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 1: over the weekend. A beloved This is from the New 112 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 1: York Post. A belove ex veterinary professor, was hacked to 113 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 1: death while walking her dog in an Alabama park where 114 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 1: she took her pet to exercise almost daily. The killer 115 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: stole her truck and fled, but was caught by cops 116 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 1: a short distance away. The next day. The body of 117 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:58,679 Speaker 1: doctor Julie Schnuell, fifty nine, a former professor of large 118 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 1: animal Medicine at Auburn University College of Veterinary Medicine, was 119 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:07,239 Speaker 1: discovered in a wooded area on Saturday afternoon. The truck 120 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 1: was recovered on Sunday. By the way, the dog, I 121 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 1: mean like cry even it's a horrible, you know story, 122 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 1: it's such a tragedy. Dog was okay, the dog stayed 123 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 1: by the owner's body the whole time. I'm you know, 124 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: dogs amazing, you know, a gift from God for for 125 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 1: all of us who have dogs. But uh, just anyway, 126 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 1: So the guy arrested for this capital murder, Harold Rashad 127 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 1: Dabney A. He's a black man with a history of 128 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 1: you know, a history of uh crime. And so you 129 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 1: sit there and you go, all right, is this now 130 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 1: a story for the national media? Why not tainous? Why 131 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: isn't it a bigger thing? Isn't this you know, you 132 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 1: you hear this old phrase for the for the news media, 133 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 1: if it bleeds at lee right, horrible? But it's true. 134 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 1: I mean that's the way it generally goes. You turn 135 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 1: on local news and an'ty given a night there's a shooting, 136 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 1: that's usually the number one story in the local news, 137 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 1: national news. Why isn't this a bigger story? Why isn't 138 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 1: this situation something that we're supposed to have a national 139 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 1: conversation about. I mean, here's another white woman who was 140 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 1: stabbed to death by a black man, and nobody wants 141 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: to talk about it. It at CNN MSNBC, the New 142 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 1: York Times, a Washington Post. Now you could just say, well, uh, 143 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 1: that's just about media focus, you know, because so what's 144 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 1: the takeaway from this? Because if it's just about the 145 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 1: media focus and about you're not supposed to notice that 146 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 1: when the race is this is where you go. What 147 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 1: if the races were different? Right? What if it was 148 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 1: if it was a young black woman who was stabbed 149 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:49,719 Speaker 1: to death by a white guy, would this be the 150 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 1: biggest story in the country in every news outlet out there? Yes, 151 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: yes it would. And so you say, well, why is 152 00:08:56,480 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 1: that happening? You change the races, and you change the 153 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:04,319 Speaker 1: national media's interest in the story. This is something you 154 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:06,199 Speaker 1: wanted to talk about a national conversation. This is a 155 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 1: national conversation that should be had. Why does that Why 156 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 1: do we all know that that is the case. Why 157 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 1: do we know that the New York Times is not 158 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 1: covering this or the Ukrainian refugee being stabbed to death 159 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 1: at all. We know they're doing it for ideological reasons. 160 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 1: We know they're doing it because of the narrative and 161 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 1: because of their desire to suppress. And you can say, 162 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 1: well is this important? Right, that's another layer of this 163 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:33,719 Speaker 1: one is understanding why the media covers us the way 164 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:37,319 Speaker 1: that they do. Right, any violence against a black person 165 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 1: by a non black, particularly by a white person, is 166 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 1: national news by its very nature. According to The New 167 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 1: York Times Washington Post, you'll see this over and over again, 168 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: or is certainly much more likely to be national news 169 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 1: than when it is the reverse. This is just observable, 170 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:54,680 Speaker 1: observable fact by everybody. Why is that? Isn't it just 171 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:56,680 Speaker 1: a human being a stabbed the death in a heinous way. 172 00:09:56,679 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 1: We should treat the action as worthy of public notice 173 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 1: the same, irrespective of what the victim's race would be. 174 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 1: Why is one more important to the media than another, 175 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 1: or at least the Democrat media. You asked that question. 176 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 1: And then the other part of it is, so, here 177 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 1: we have two cases of women stabbed to death, white 178 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 1: women stabbed to death by black men in recent in 179 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 1: you know, this just happened over the weekend. The other 180 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 1: one happened a few weeks ago in the most grizzly 181 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 1: and horrific fashion. And there's just an absolute lack of 182 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 1: interest in this. And then we compare from a lot 183 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 1: of the media, and then we compare it to the 184 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 1: jussy's a small let case. We compare it to George Floyd, 185 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 1: We compare it to Mike Brown BLM, hands up all 186 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 1: the or Trayvon Martin. We're the president at the time, 187 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 1: Barack Obama said, if I had a son, he would 188 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 1: look like Trayvon. I mean, that was That's the level 189 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 1: of attention those stories got. Why why Trayvon Martin shouldn't 190 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 1: have jumped on a guy and pounded his head into 191 00:10:57,320 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 1: the pavement because they had some kind of a disagreement. 192 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 1: The guy had a it wasn't a good idea. Why 193 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 1: did the president have to weigh in on that one? 194 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 1: Because it became a story transformed into a story of 195 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 1: white racism in the Trayvon Martin case, that was remarkable. Right, 196 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 1: a Latino guy gets into a fight with a black 197 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 1: guy and it's about white racism. I mean, this is 198 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 1: what they do. This is what the media does. But 199 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 1: the other part of it is we want this to stop, 200 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:29,320 Speaker 1: and we wanted to stop because when we see or 201 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 1: how we want it to stop is when you see 202 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 1: these cases and you see these people that have been 203 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 1: through the system, they are a clear and present danger 204 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 1: to the society that they are in and they need 205 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 1: a lengthy period of incarceration and rehabilitation would be nice. 206 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 1: But more importantly, they can't stab any ladies to death, 207 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:51,719 Speaker 1: walking their dogs, or taking the subway if they're in 208 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:56,200 Speaker 1: a prison cell. And we've tried the other way. We 209 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:59,319 Speaker 1: didn't want to, but the country has been put through this. 210 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 1: We have seen the Democrat soorros prosecutor way, which is, 211 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 1: you know, in the interests of social justice and the 212 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 1: interests of racial justice and the interest of you know, 213 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 1: righting historical wrongs, or however they want to frame this, 214 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:17,959 Speaker 1: we're going to go soft on people who have no 215 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 1: sense of respect for the law, who have no accountability, 216 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 1: and who are a danger to those around them. And 217 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 1: enough is enough. And this brings me, of course to 218 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 1: the Daniel Penny case in New York City on the subway. Authorities, 219 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 1: prosecute authorities wanted to lock him up because there was 220 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:37,559 Speaker 1: a maniac. In this case, the maniac was a black 221 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 1: guy and the guy who stepped in was a white guy. 222 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 1: There was a maniac who had been arrested, who had 223 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 1: assaulted people, who'd over and over and over again, and 224 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:47,960 Speaker 1: someone Daniel Penny stepped up and was like, we're I 225 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 1: can't allow this threat against these women in this way. 226 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 1: And the jury had defined in his favor, not the system. 227 00:12:56,000 --> 00:13:00,199 Speaker 1: The system wanted to destroy his life. The jury had 228 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 1: defined in his favor because there were enough people on 229 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 1: that jury that are sick of the system failing and 230 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 1: saying it is about justice. They are sick of the 231 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 1: injustice that this system perpetuates over and over again, allowing 232 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 1: the constant victimization of people, by the way, the disproportionate 233 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 1: victimization of the Black community, by the very small percentage 234 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 1: within that community who are black. What could be better 235 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 1: for neighborhoods that have too much crime then making them 236 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:37,080 Speaker 1: relatively crime free, making them safe, so that you know, 237 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 1: the black moms and black dads and black residents can 238 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 1: go to their jobs, can go to their work, and 239 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 1: go to the park, do whatever they want to do 240 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 1: in peace, safety and tranquility. That's the way it's supposed 241 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 1: to be for all of us. And I think we've 242 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:51,959 Speaker 1: just reached a point where whoever it is that has 243 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:54,960 Speaker 1: to get locked up. The small part I told you 244 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 1: about the end the New York City stats about the subway, 245 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 1: sixty three people, thousand arrests. We're not saying lock up. 246 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 1: You know, millions of people here, you're saying lock up 247 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 1: to sixty three, save yourself. Thousands of arrests, make the 248 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 1: subway safer for everybody. What is the counter argument to this? 249 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 1: There's some kind of a sickness in the liberal mind. 250 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:18,680 Speaker 1: What is the counter argument to this? Other than you know, 251 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 1: social justice. We're all you're racist. It's like, it's not racist. 252 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 1: You know what's horrible. What's horrible is to leave minority 253 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 1: of you know, dominant communities to hide crime rates because 254 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 1: you're unwilling to take the one percent that's committing all 255 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 1: the crimes and lock them up. That's horrible, that's wrong, 256 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 1: that's inhumane. Actually, and I think the Republicans see this. 257 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 1: I think Trump sees this, and I think it's time 258 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 1: for a real national conversation about it. How about that 259 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 1: when you decide it's time you had more energy every day, 260 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 1: you got to check out what I'm doing. 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Clay Travis at Buck Sex. 279 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 2: Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you 280 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 2: get your podcasts. 281 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 1: So Trump has been speaking this morning about a lot 282 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 1: of issues, including crime, and he said some words about 283 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 1: the terrible murder on video of that beautiful young Ukrainian refugee, 284 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 1: twenty three year old woman. Just absolutely the most heinous 285 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 1: and just horrific kind of crime. But Trump is also 286 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 1: saying he's going to do stuff about it. He's not 287 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 1: just expressing his sense of shared grief and prayers and 288 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 1: love for the families. Here, he's saying, we're going to 289 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 1: do something. This is cut five. He's talking about going 290 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 1: into cities and just cleaning out the criminal rot play five. 291 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 3: You know, when you have horrible killings, you have to 292 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 3: take horrible actions. And the actions that we take are nothing. 293 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 3: This cashless veil started a wave in our country where 294 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 3: a killer kills somebody and has out on the street 295 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 3: by the afternoon, in many cases going out and killing again. 296 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 1: Cashless veil. 297 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 3: And you try and reason with people, like in Chicago 298 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 3: with the governor and the mayor, you try and reason 299 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 3: with them, it's like you're talking to a wall. It's 300 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 3: just doesn't I assume it's just a political ideology. 301 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 1: They're not stupid. 302 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 3: People must be an ideology that's just buried in the 303 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 3: head and you can't do a damn thing about it. 304 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 3: And we'd love to go into Chicago and straighten the dead. 305 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 1: Going to Chicago and straightened out, going to other places 306 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 1: and straighten it out. 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So 338 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 4: during the first few weeks, of course, we've seen these 339 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 4: radical reductions of violent crime or just get start a 340 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:05,879 Speaker 4: daatf FBI. I've only just begun to identify, disrupt and 341 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 4: dismantle the criminal organizations that have been wreaking havoc on 342 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 4: the city for so long. We're going to take him apart, 343 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:13,920 Speaker 4: member by member, group by group, peace by peace. 344 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 1: That is Stephen Miller saying that the law enforcement deployment 345 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 1: to bring down crime is just beginning. On of course, 346 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:26,919 Speaker 1: the issue of immigration, but also on violent crime. We're 347 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 1: joined out by Heather MacDonald. She's a fellow at the 348 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 1: Manhattan Institute and also author of Well, the War on 349 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:36,159 Speaker 1: Cops and When Race Trump's Merit. Heather, always good to 350 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 1: have you on the program. 351 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 5: Thank you so much, Bud. 352 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:41,959 Speaker 1: I have to say, I expect a certain degree of 353 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 1: what we're going to talk about, but Heather, for two 354 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 1: heinous murders to occur within pretty close proximity in terms 355 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 1: of time, a couple of weeks of each other. The 356 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:55,440 Speaker 1: New York Times hasn't covered either of them. The Washington 357 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 1: Post hasn't covered either, the murder of this veterinary professor 358 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 1: in Alabama and also the murder in North Carolina of 359 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 1: this Ukrainian refugee. People see this and our outrage understandably 360 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:09,160 Speaker 1: what's going on here? 361 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 5: Well, sadly, it's all about race. The black on white 362 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:18,199 Speaker 5: crime gets virtually no attention. And we're supposed to believe 363 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:22,119 Speaker 5: that white on black crime is the dominant reality in 364 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 5: our country today. It is not. A twenty twenty three 365 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 5: study from the National Academy of Sciences left wing group. 366 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 5: Left wing professors involved in it said that there is 367 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 5: virtually zero white on black homicides in this country, and 368 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 5: that blacks are thirty five times more likely to commit 369 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:45,119 Speaker 5: an act of violence against whites than vice versa. That 370 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:48,399 Speaker 5: is a narrative that is simply not allowed into the 371 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 5: public sphere. And we have allowed this crime to get 372 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 5: out of control for the absolutely phony reason that we 373 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 5: don't if we incarcerate people will put more black criminals 374 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:06,400 Speaker 5: in jail. Of course, the answer to that is yes, 375 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:10,679 Speaker 5: but blacks are overwhelmingly the victims of crime, but they 376 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:14,879 Speaker 5: don't count because we only care about black victims in 377 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:19,880 Speaker 5: the excruciatingly rare instances when they're killed by a police 378 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 5: officer or even more rarely, a non official white person. 379 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 5: We have completely forgotten the purpose of government, buck which 380 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:36,679 Speaker 5: is to protect the law abiding. We're living through the 381 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 5: Great inversion, where government has decided that its priorities are 382 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:46,920 Speaker 5: for the dysfunctional, the criminal, the antisocial. It loads rights 383 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 5: on people that are a threat to society, and it 384 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 5: treats the law abiding merely as ATMs for government's effeckless 385 00:21:56,800 --> 00:22:00,479 Speaker 5: social policies from now on, and Trump is leading us 386 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 5: in this direction. We had the government has one obligation, 387 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 5: and one obligation only protect life. Protect property, protect safety. 388 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:13,439 Speaker 1: You know, Heather, I'm sure you might have seen this. 389 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 1: There's already some very interesting and somewhat or very troubling 390 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 1: conversations around particularly the Ukrainian, the Ukrainian refugee who was 391 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:27,359 Speaker 1: murdered on video on the North Carolina light rail and Charlotte. 392 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 1: People just starting to GoFundMe. Those have been taken down 393 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 1: Wikipedia trying to take this off the case off of Wikipedia. 394 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:38,159 Speaker 1: That obviously is getting attention. But this from Axios. You know, 395 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 1: bodycams I think are the single biggest impediment that BLM 396 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,160 Speaker 1: has to three point zero. I mean, I've been tech 397 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 1: talking to this for a while that the more familiar 398 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 1: people become with body camera footage in general but also 399 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:53,479 Speaker 1: in specific incidents, the less likely they are to believe 400 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 1: some of these tales and some of these initial narratives 401 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:59,159 Speaker 1: that are put out there. Axios wrote, the rising this 402 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:02,160 Speaker 1: is just this more the big picture. The rising number 403 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 1: of surveillance cameras in public spaces, including on Charlotte's light rail, 404 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 1: has become a big accelerate. In these cases, the video 405 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 1: is easily shared or leaked and can pollinate across social media. 406 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 1: I'm starting to feel like they don't want us to 407 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:17,680 Speaker 1: see what's going on. 408 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 5: It's hilarious. I found that that headline simply stunning. It 409 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:26,919 Speaker 5: is about as clarifying as it gets. They had control 410 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:31,199 Speaker 5: of the narrative. They decided what the public was allowed 411 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:34,920 Speaker 5: to know and what it wasn't. The public is completely 412 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 5: in the dark about the reality of inner city crime 413 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:41,359 Speaker 5: because the media has decided we don't dare to know 414 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 5: it because we might become racists and axios. And the 415 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 5: mainstream media is terrified that they are losing control of 416 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 5: the narrative. That's why, of course Biden tried, through the 417 00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:01,200 Speaker 5: collusion of the pressure on social media companies to shut 418 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:05,680 Speaker 5: down x for once. You know, we were also optimistic 419 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 5: about the web when it came into being. We thought 420 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:10,880 Speaker 5: it's going to crowdsource knowledge, and then it turned out 421 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 5: to have many many downsides as far as social addiction 422 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 5: to this. But here again is one of the great 423 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:22,639 Speaker 5: upsides is it does give the people a way to 424 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 5: fight back against the censorship of the elite media establishment 425 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:30,200 Speaker 5: and the elite political establishment as well. 426 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 1: When President Trump was speaking about this is year recently 427 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 1: talked about no cash bail and just the out. Can 428 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 1: you just take us back a little bit in time. 429 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 1: Here heather to the argument that we had to have 430 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 1: no cash bail in places like New York, and then 431 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 1: what has this what have the numbers told us this 432 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 1: has resulted? Enemy, what has that carnage looked like? 433 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 5: Well, the argument, and I'm going to be honest here, Buck, 434 00:24:56,680 --> 00:25:00,200 Speaker 5: I'm somewhat sympathetic to the anti bail argument because as 435 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 5: it is sort of a form of preemptive detention before 436 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:09,399 Speaker 5: you have made a judgment that under a probable cause 437 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:15,400 Speaker 5: standard of criminal guilt. But the argument is, the non 438 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:20,159 Speaker 5: race argument, is that it's unfair to the poor. It 439 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 5: is economically discriminatory because if you don't have the money 440 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:27,639 Speaker 5: to make cash bail, you're going to be held, and 441 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 5: if you have the money, you're going to be out. 442 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 5: The real argument, again, everything, I'm sorry to say it 443 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 5: is depressing, it's disheartening, but everything in our criminal justice 444 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 5: system today is driven by race. And that means it's 445 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 5: driven by the fact that the crime rate among blacks 446 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 5: is exponentially higher than among whites. Again, we're not supposed 447 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 5: to say these things, but that's why we are not 448 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,920 Speaker 5: enforcing the law. That is why we are not imposing bail. 449 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 5: It is why judges are letting people go, and above all, 450 00:25:56,080 --> 00:26:00,879 Speaker 5: it's why prosecutors are not prosecuting crimes. And it's also 451 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 5: driving our mental health system. I mean, in New York 452 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 5: you can see it. These schizophrenics. De Carlos Brown was 453 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 5: a schizophrenic. They're all out on the streets. It's like 454 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:16,159 Speaker 5: a scene out of Bedlam. And that too, we're not 455 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:19,639 Speaker 5: going to incarcerate the mentally ill or take them off 456 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 5: the streets because again the racial disproportionality. And so there 457 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:30,199 Speaker 5: is some argument that the failure to impose bail is 458 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 5: allowing a lot of recidivism. I think the solution is 459 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:37,920 Speaker 5: to just give judges power with regards would I would 460 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 5: get rid of the cash component and just give judges 461 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:43,880 Speaker 5: the ability to say, no, you're risk. 462 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 1: You're being held. 463 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 5: Ye, And you know, again this is where the great 464 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:52,640 Speaker 5: inversion comes in. But you get at most one free 465 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 5: bite of the apple and then that's it. This is 466 00:26:55,760 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 5: a statistical certainty. It was a known certainty that something 467 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:05,119 Speaker 5: like this horrific stabbing and the stabbing in Alabama was 468 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 5: going to happen. When you will allow criminals, when you 469 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,879 Speaker 5: allow the mentally ill, drug addicted on the streets. It 470 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 5: will happen. That is no longer acceptable. We have to 471 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 5: put the burden on the criminal to justify himself. The 472 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 5: responsibility is to protect the public. If somebody has committed 473 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:31,719 Speaker 5: one crime that is putting the establishment, the government officials unnoticed, 474 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:34,679 Speaker 5: they will likely commit it again. We have to be 475 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 5: much more safe to protective. Right now, all we care 476 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 5: about is protecting the rights of the mentally ill, the 477 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 5: vagrants and the criminals. That has got to end. 478 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 1: You know, there's this story Heather in the New York Post. 479 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,879 Speaker 1: I'm sure you saw it, your New Yorker, about sixty 480 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,359 Speaker 1: three people who are responsible. And I would not have 481 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,199 Speaker 1: I would have guessed that it was six hundred and 482 00:27:55,200 --> 00:28:00,399 Speaker 1: thirty arrests. No, No, five thousand, five thousand arrests, sixty 483 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 1: three people. You hear this? How is that even? How 484 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,640 Speaker 1: is it even possible? Well, they've got people like this guy, 485 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 1: sixty twenty eight year old Kenny Mitchell. This is the 486 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:12,199 Speaker 1: New York Post arrested a total of one hundred and 487 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:16,120 Speaker 1: forty nine times eighteen times since May of this year 488 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 1: for alleged theft and forgery. Found lying on the sea 489 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 1: train platform with pockets full of crack viiles one hundred 490 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,200 Speaker 1: and fifty someone's arrested one hundred and fifty times. What 491 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 1: is a judge doing when this person the one hundred 492 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 1: and forty ninth time goes in front of them, Like, 493 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 1: what is the thought process? 494 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 5: The thought process is I am. My responsibility is to 495 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:46,479 Speaker 5: the down trodden, the allegedly downtrodden, the discriminated against the 496 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 5: people that are the victims of racial injustice. That's who 497 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 5: I care about. The public is not before me. Again, 498 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 5: this has to end. If there's any excuse about we 499 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 5: don't have the jail space to hold people, we don't 500 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 5: have the mental institutions to hold people. Build them Trump, 501 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 5: build them. You know, I'm not a big fan of 502 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 5: distributing federal tax dollars to localities because it's just a 503 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 5: shell game. It's the same tax dollars that began in 504 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,239 Speaker 5: the locality that come back to it minus you know, 505 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 5: fifty percent of red tape cause having gone to Washington 506 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 5: and back. Nevertheless, if there's anything that deserves federal funding, 507 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 5: build the jails, build of the facilities, get rid of 508 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 5: the damn laws that give priority to keeping the homeless 509 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:42,280 Speaker 5: people on the streets. Get rid of the homeless outreach teams. 510 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:46,320 Speaker 5: This is not housing. Everybody on the street has been 511 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 5: offered shelter multiple times. They do not have the right 512 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 5: to say no. They do not have the right to colonize. 513 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 5: You can go to Penn Station. You will see dozens 514 00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:00,720 Speaker 5: of de Carlos Browns. They are walking to I'm bombs. 515 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 5: They are going to explode, and every time they explode. 516 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 5: That is on the hands of our government officials. They 517 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 5: have one duty and one duty only protect the public. 518 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 5: Their duty is not to protect the dysfunctional and the 519 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 5: anti social. 520 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 1: You know, Heather, I just another staff from this New 521 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 1: York Post piece. Ten years ago, eighty one percent of 522 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 1: transit felony arrests in New York City resulted in convictions. 523 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 1: It's thirty six percent today. It's not because they're arresting 524 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 1: all the wrong people. 525 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 5: It's because, again, we feel guilty wrongly as a society. 526 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 5: We have historical guilt. We are not guilty today. This 527 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 5: is not a white supremacist society. It is just the opposite. 528 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 5: We are giving benefits and opportunities and preferences to underrepresented 529 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 5: minorities all the time. It is time to end the 530 00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 5: racial grift. To end the racial guilt again. If you 531 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 5: want to play this black victims by all means. 532 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 3: Do it. 533 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 5: When we allow criminals to stay on the streets, it's 534 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 5: the it's the safe. The safety observing hard working residents 535 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 5: of East Harlem, the South Side of Chicago that are 536 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 5: finding their children gunned down. The media and the activists 537 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 5: tell them hilariously that they should fear white people or 538 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 5: they should fear the National Guard. Are you kidding me? 539 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 5: The National Guard is their only hope. And we have 540 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 5: this completely contradictory message on the one hand that comes 541 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 5: out of the New York Times and everybody else in 542 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 5: the Washington Post wle the national Guard is making everybody scared. 543 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 5: They're like so traumatized. And yet the National Guard is 544 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 5: going to the mall. It is going to the Washington Mall, 545 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 5: it is going to the Smithsonian. It isn't going to Anacostia. 546 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 5: So you know, decide do you want Do you want 547 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 5: them in the high crime neighborhoods or not? Are you 548 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 5: scared of them or not? The fact is is that 549 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 5: law enforcement works. As you were saying earlier today, we 550 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 5: know how to do this. As you were saying, earlier. Today, 551 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 5: this is a choice. It is not an inevitability. Homelessness, 552 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 5: vagrancy street colonization choice policy outcome, not a naturally occurring phenomenon. 553 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 5: Policy choices. We knew how to do this a century ago. 554 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 5: We did not allow people to colonize city streets. When 555 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,800 Speaker 5: you do do that, you're going to get more of this. 556 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 5: Because these people, they have shown themselves to be threats. 557 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 5: They have to be off the streets. We have to 558 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 5: say no more. And thank Heavens, we have a president 559 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 5: who understands one murder is too many. I cannot believe 560 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 5: in the Axio story. They're also trotting out the usual. Well, 561 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 5: the problem with these videos is it's giving people a 562 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 5: way to not believe that crime is dropping. If I 563 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:01,959 Speaker 5: hear the crime is dropped meme one more time, I 564 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 5: am going to go nuts because it doesn't matter. It's 565 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:10,960 Speaker 5: a non sequitor. Crime is dropping a little bit, since 566 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:16,240 Speaker 5: it's post George Floyd Race ride astronomical high, it doesn't matter. 567 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 5: One is too many. It is still way too high. 568 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:24,760 Speaker 5: Our homicide rate is sixty times that of Switzerland, twenty 569 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 5: seven times that of London. In Washington, DC. This is 570 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 5: not acceptable in a civilized society. 571 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:34,480 Speaker 1: Nathan MacDonald, author of The War on Cops and When 572 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 1: Race Trump's Merit. Heather always appreciate you. 573 00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 5: Thank you for having me on Buck. 574 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 1: Have you caught football fever after a week in the 575 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 1: college and NFL games, You're not alone. Football is back 576 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,080 Speaker 1: and America runs on football in any number of ways. 577 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 1: I'll tell you. Actually, I saw one of my neighbors yesterday. 578 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,480 Speaker 1: He was like, big, big, big day to day, big 579 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,400 Speaker 1: game today, and I said, yeah, I'm really excited to 580 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 1: see what Alca Alcaraz does. He's like, what's like, Buck, 581 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:01,680 Speaker 1: I'm talking about the Miami Dolphins. I was like, oh, yeah, 582 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 1: that's happening too, because you know, I was thinking about 583 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:07,240 Speaker 1: basket I mean a tennis. So yeah, Prize picks. 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Find it on the 601 00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:01,520 Speaker 2: iHeartRadio app or where whatever you get your podcasts. 602 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,279 Speaker 1: We're gonna be closing up shop here shortly on Clay 603 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,719 Speaker 1: and Buck for the day. Thanks for being here with us. 604 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,480 Speaker 1: Clay is if you would find he'll be back tomorrow. 605 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:13,839 Speaker 1: You just had the day off today and we will 606 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,399 Speaker 1: dive into all the latest news and we'll get into more. 607 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:18,080 Speaker 1: I'm sure of many of the conversations we had to 608 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,879 Speaker 1: day probably get into some of the economies. Really talk 609 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:25,160 Speaker 1: much about that one Heather McDonald always just brings so 610 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:31,880 Speaker 1: much clarity and forceful thinking, strong thinking to the conversation. 611 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,880 Speaker 1: VIP email from Edgar here. The question that needs to 612 00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,640 Speaker 1: be asked is if it was a black Muslim woman 613 00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:40,840 Speaker 1: stabbed by a white man, what would the outcome be? 614 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,160 Speaker 1: I can tell you riots twenty four to seven liberal 615 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:46,040 Speaker 1: media coverage forever. Yeah, of course, we just run this 616 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:49,560 Speaker 1: experiment over and over again. Just find me, I mean, 617 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:53,200 Speaker 1: any any number of cases where this is, this is 618 00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:57,879 Speaker 1: what has happened. And then a VIP email here from 619 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,480 Speaker 1: Mike in Alabama, say, is the suspect in that stabbing 620 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:03,279 Speaker 1: was arrested three hundred yards from my house. The vet 621 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:07,239 Speaker 1: doctor who was murdered in Auburn was a beloved was 622 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:09,920 Speaker 1: beloved by many vet school staff. My wife worked at 623 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,799 Speaker 1: the vet school, knew the victim. Kudos the Auburn Police 624 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,880 Speaker 1: department for identifying the suspect. He deserves capital punishment for 625 00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:21,320 Speaker 1: this murder. And uh yeah, I agree, and uh I 626 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:24,360 Speaker 1: just you know, pray for the pray for this, for 627 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:27,279 Speaker 1: that woman's soul and for those who knew and loved her. 628 00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:30,040 Speaker 1: And you know, look, it's a tough day today talking 629 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:31,680 Speaker 1: about these things. But we have to. We have to 630 00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:34,719 Speaker 1: do so honestly and sincerely here on the show, and 631 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:36,920 Speaker 1: we do. We'll come back tomorrow, We'll get to you 632 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,480 Speaker 1: with all the latest news of the day. Appreciate your 633 00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:42,160 Speaker 1: being here and looking forward to talking to you some 634 00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:42,520 Speaker 1: more then