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Speaker 1: a couple of races that she was expected to win

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Speaker 1: We have been doing pretty well the swimming. Let's check

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Speaker 1: it on the Olympic story with Sally Jenkins. She's the

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Speaker 1: sports columnist for the Washington Post. We've had her on

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Speaker 1: the show before. She's won all kinds of awards and

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Speaker 1: honors for being a sports uh columnists. How are you

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Speaker 1: this morning? Sally? Doing great? Thank you? Um. Just in general,

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Speaker 1: rows of Olympics to a certain extent. Um. I don't

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Speaker 1: feel like people are paying as much attention as they

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Speaker 1: have an Olympics past. I grew up with it being

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Speaker 1: just a monumentally huge event. You know, the world would

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Speaker 1: the Olympics was going on. I don't feel like that's

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Speaker 1: happening now. Is that just my own life or do

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Speaker 1: you feel that. I think there's something to that. I

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Speaker 1: think part of it is some disillusion with the International

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Speaker 1: Olympic Committee and the way they've gone about their business.

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Speaker 1: I think people have some real objections to, you know,

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Speaker 1: know that doing business with dictators is not great for

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Speaker 1: the Olympics. You know. I think it's a combination too

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Speaker 1: been talking about how things just change. You know. American

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Speaker 1: years and forty million people have tune in and then

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Speaker 1: they just saw enough of it. And when I was

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Speaker 1: a kid, boxing was the biggest sport in the world.

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Speaker 1: Every kid in my class always knew who the world

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Speaker 1: heavyweight champion was. There's nobody in my son's class that

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Speaker 1: would know that. I mean, so, you know, things come

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Speaker 1: and go, and popularity, it's just a fact they do.

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Speaker 1: What doesn't go out of style is the excitement of,

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Speaker 1: you know, watching a really great performance. You know, watch

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Speaker 1: watch somebody win a medal. Michael Phelps, I think, was

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Speaker 1: you know, just an epic an epic athlete to watch.

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Speaker 1: And um, you know, the athletes always cleanse the Olympics.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's the thing. The performances take over and

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Speaker 1: they start exercising a charm over the whole affair that

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Speaker 1: give it that much attention. Yeah, I'm I'm mostly speaking

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Speaker 1: for the ratings and just other people I talked to.

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Speaker 1: I love the Olympics. My my son and I we

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Speaker 1: I I've always liked the Olympics, and we're gonna we're

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Speaker 1: gonna take in a lot of the stuff this this weekend. Um,

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Speaker 1: We're talking with Sally Jenkins, sports columnist the Washington Post.

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Speaker 1: It's interesting you got a column about what people are wearing.

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Speaker 1: We got off on a thing the other day about

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Speaker 1: why do they make the women beach volleyball people playing

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Speaker 1: their underwear because it looks like it's women playing in

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Speaker 1: feel uncomfortable with that, and I think, why are they

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Speaker 1: doing that? I agree? And then you watch the men,

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Speaker 1: a minute, you're not doing this to the guys. You're silly. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: affect the dudes. No, No, that's silly. No, No, if

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Speaker 1: volleyball rules, you can't believe the difference in the instructions.

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Speaker 1: The uniform instructions for the women then the men. Seven

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Speaker 1: times it says that the women must wear closely fitting

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Speaker 1: it's hot women in their their panties exactly with very

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Speaker 1: Like one of the one of the rules is like,

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Speaker 1: the sport, I mean it's like it's like sixteen men

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Speaker 1: on the on the executive committee of twenty three people.

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Speaker 1: I mean it's overwhelmingly male eight year old men who

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Speaker 1: are taking cash handouts from the Chinese and the Russians.

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Speaker 1: not you're not exaggerating when you say that. I know,

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Speaker 1: just jump in with the Simone Biles thing, what what what? What? What?

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Speaker 1: need to understand the term twisties. It's a phenomenon in gymnastics,

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Speaker 1: instantly understood what it was. The twisties is when you

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Speaker 1: develop disorientation in the air. It's like a pie let

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Speaker 1: really appreciate you jumping on the air with US Today.

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Speaker 1: Sally Jenkins, sports columnists, Washington Post read or Stock Armstrong

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