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Speaker 2: New Yorker's bid farewell to their president and to their

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Speaker 2: New York became the official meeting place for the first

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Speaker 2: Congress under the Constitution. Yet behind closed doors, some members

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Speaker 2: they developed plans to create a federal city that was

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Speaker 2: Southerners like James Madison's led to charge in, which would

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Speaker 2: within a southern orbit. The federal city would be splendid

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Speaker 2: and the hands of slaves would build it. The new

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Speaker 2: making way for paved streets and thoroughfares. These same slaves

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Speaker 2: what would become the seat of America's power. Hey, welcome

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Speaker 2: to the Black Autels podcast. I'm your host, Rod Jordan

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Speaker 2: all that stuff. It's fun. Today's excerpt is from never

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Speaker 2: caught the Washington's relentless pursuit of their runaway slave.

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Speaker 3: On a judge by Erica Armstrong Dunbar.

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Speaker 2: So that's near the beginning of the book where they

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Speaker 2: thought the institution of slavery was a question brought to

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Speaker 2: and then the Civil War started and they were like, oh,

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Speaker 2: the slavery thing, maybe that's the problem, right, But obviously

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Speaker 2: that's makes sense, you know. One of the reasons they

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Speaker 2: pushed back against sixteen nineteen projects because sixteen nineteen is like,

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Speaker 2: that's when the first slaves was brought to America. So

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Speaker 2: that's when that that means America was founded on slavery,

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Speaker 2: Like correct, before America was ratified as a country, slaves

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Speaker 2: were here and people were enslaving other people. But and

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Speaker 2: talking about the president George Washington, who owned slaves while

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Speaker 4: Come on, uh tearrann at tea party for nothing?

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Speaker 2: High taxes for white people? Was tyranny enough for them

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Speaker 2: And this book is so wild and I'll get to

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Speaker 2: black people who act. The first black organization that actively

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Speaker 2: there because the forget what they're denominated Quakers, the Quakers religiously,

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Speaker 2: And shit, it was still some bullshit, but essentially George

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Speaker 2: so they can get that actual freedom right. So it

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Speaker 2: that's the dude that we were taught. Their first president

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Speaker 2: you know, like this is the dude we were taught.

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Speaker 2: These are when white people worship our founding fathers with

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Speaker 2: When they say stuff like I'm a a I forget

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Speaker 2: these people that's like, I'm a direct believer in the

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Speaker 2: Founding Fathers or something. I don't remember his federalist or

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Speaker 2: whatever the word is, but it's some type of like

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Speaker 2: I am a traditionalist that believes in what they say,

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Speaker 2: and I'm like the slave owning the slave owning people.

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Speaker 2: That's who you think I should in twenty twenty one

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Speaker 2: what I should be thinking about. Those people, A right

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Speaker 2: o federalist. Okay, thanks Yeatty. So yeah, man, just you know,

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Speaker 2: it's an interesting read and uh and stuff like that

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Speaker 4: We got to build the bricks, we got to shape

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Speaker 2: At Yes, for for white people to then go inside

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Speaker 2: end of the day, oppression Olympics versus all it distracts

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Speaker 7: Like endangered species and life expectancy is this and if

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Speaker 2: You know, you're supposed to have as supposed to be

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Speaker 2: you know, you black king. It was a lot of this, like, Nigga,

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Speaker 2: that later. A lot of people were saying that shit

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Speaker 4: Right, nigga, They was arresting us too.

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Speaker 3: It was like that for black women too, It's like,

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Speaker 4: Everything was your fault. You got ripe, that's your fault. Man,

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Speaker 2: Right, and someone if you raise your kid without a father,

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Speaker 2: That you get cheated on, if you get abused, if whatever,

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Speaker 2: So like there's an empathy that doesn't always get returned.

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Speaker 2: And so it's not reciprocated, and so they can never

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Speaker 2: idea that people don't see it as a straight black

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Speaker 2: because there are some things that are just so fucked

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Speaker 2: Like that's really what I think is happening with Chappelle

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Speaker 2: I'm calling balls and strikes here. I'm not. This isn't allegiance,

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Speaker 2: This isn't a ward, this isn't a team, this isn't

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Speaker 2: They say it is like, this motherfucker right here is

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Speaker 2: And if you don't want to do that, then you

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Speaker 2: with impunity because so much bad shit has happened to

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Speaker 4: Right, And the generations have changed, Like I don't think

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Speaker 4: fuck that and fuck you. Yes, I'm getting my goddamn degrease.

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Speaker 4: Not a goddamn thing you could do a boy a

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Speaker 4: I will not stay with you just because you're a

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00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:12,600
Speaker 4: black Know what. I will not support your timefoery and

432
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:16,200
Speaker 4: your stupidity. I will demand more of you. I will

433
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 4: raise the standards I said, not have to throw out

434
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:23,200
Speaker 4: my standards because you're suffering, bitch. We all suffering. We're

435
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:26,679
Speaker 4: all suffering. And it's one of those things where that

436
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,240
Speaker 4: pushback and all of a sudden, y'all want to call

437
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 4: them winches and kick them out of the black community

438
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:33,480
Speaker 4: because they was like, I will not support an abuser.

439
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,840
Speaker 4: I will not support somebody that don't support me. You know,

440
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:38,440
Speaker 4: I will not. You know, I don't have to have

441
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:42,240
Speaker 4: this empathy for somebody that there's some fucked up shit

442
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,920
Speaker 4: to somebody just because they're black, Like I have drawn

443
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:46,959
Speaker 4: my lines, and all of a sudden, I'm the motherfucker

444
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 4: problem because I don't because I said, I'm not marching

445
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 4: for that, nigga, I don't. I'm not going out in

446
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:53,840
Speaker 4: the street, you know, all of a sudden, I'm a

447
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:56,040
Speaker 4: goddamn trader and you're kicking me out of the black community.

448
00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 4: I won't take my motherfucking black card. But at the

449
00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:00,320
Speaker 4: same time, just like y'all fed up a way people

450
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 4: whooping y'all lass, we fed up with y'all. But niggas

451
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 4: don't want to hear that.

452
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 2: Right, And so that anger and that animosity that comes out,

453
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:11,679
Speaker 2: which is I think reciprocated, right that like that is

454
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:15,920
Speaker 2: a result of decades and years of being like, shut

455
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 2: the fuck up, You'll get yours when we get ours.

456
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:20,880
Speaker 2: We'll tell you when it's okay for you to speak up.

457
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:24,439
Speaker 2: We're gonna take advantage of your labor. You know, every

458
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 2: leader of the black community for a long period of

459
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,199
Speaker 2: time had to be a dude you know, there were

460
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 2: race women that wrote about race and shit, but it

461
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,439
Speaker 2: had to be a dude that up front or nobody

462
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:37,679
Speaker 2: wanted to hear that shit. And then of course, you

463
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,400
Speaker 2: know a lot of patriarchal thinking that we got from

464
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,400
Speaker 2: white people that you know, I mean, or just even

465
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 2: if we didn't get it from white it could have

466
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:47,160
Speaker 2: been like that Africa. I don't know, but just in general,

467
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 2: a lot of that thinking of like, even though we

468
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,360
Speaker 2: see the matrix of how shit is fucked up with oppression,

469
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 2: we want to have some of that, Like we want

470
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 2: to have that in our households and in our communities.

471
00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:00,920
Speaker 2: And I think a lot of black women in order

472
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 2: to survive, assimilate or whatever they adopted. And also just

473
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:09,639
Speaker 2: you know, one of the things I've said on the

474
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:14,400
Speaker 2: show before, which is just not everybody in some marginalized

475
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 2: group is just a good person. And when I talk

476
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 2: about these terms, I try to be careful to not

477
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 2: just group it all into like black men, black women,

478
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 2: black does black that, because honestly, I've met people that

479
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:32,399
Speaker 2: are of every stripe that of whatever representational politics you apply,

480
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 2: there's people in groups that are just like I'm gonna

481
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:38,880
Speaker 2: be fucked up like yes, I'm a black woman, and

482
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:42,440
Speaker 2: yes I'm fucking transphobic, and Nope, I don't feel bad

483
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:47,679
Speaker 2: about it, and fuck you. You know. I remember when, like

484
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 2: when the Dave Chappelle shit came out, there's a lot

485
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 2: of people that wrote pieces about it, and there was

486
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 2: all through the osices of these black men. You know,

487
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:58,359
Speaker 2: that's just how they are. And I was like, fam,

488
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 2: a lot of people defending him are black women telling

489
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,879
Speaker 2: people trans people need to take a joke, which is

490
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:10,439
Speaker 2: essentially them being like nigga sectionality, Like yes, like I

491
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 2: get called bitch or I don't get respected, and I

492
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:14,680
Speaker 2: laugh about the ship, so now you got to laugh

493
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 2: about it.

494
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:19,679
Speaker 4: That just and it was fucked up. The ship to

495
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 4: happen to black man is wrong, This ship to happen

496
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 4: to black women is wrong. This ship happenn lb lgbt Q,

497
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:30,239
Speaker 4: plus it's all wrong, Like like instead of us just

498
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 4: saying accepting this ship and going, well, I took it,

499
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 4: you should have to take it like, oh, this ship

500
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,920
Speaker 4: is just wrong. But nobody wants to say that because

501
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 4: nobody wants to look at themselves and and and be like,

502
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 4: y'all know what what we should do is fight against

503
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,719
Speaker 4: this fucked up system that we were kind of put into,

504
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 4: you know, without our permission, and and and and and

505
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 4: and bought across the seas into this fucked up situation. Uh,

506
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:58,479
Speaker 4: because that's something that's a lifelong battle and ship like that.

507
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 4: And so people don't look at the individual lives and

508
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 4: they be like, well, it's just easy with me just

509
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 4: to accept it and just be like, well, it is

510
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 4: what it is, and I can't do nothing about it,

511
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 4: and nothing's out of everything's out of my control. And

512
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 4: it's very frustrating because there are some things that you

513
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 4: can control. It doesn't have to be on a huge level.

514
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 4: It could be small and itty bitty, but showing empathy

515
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 4: to somebody that does not look like you is part

516
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 4: of that growth process too. You know, it's not just

517
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 4: MEMI me, all about me and fuck everybody else, and

518
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 4: everybody can be in that. You can be in a

519
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 4: part of a moginalized group and still be a fucked up,

520
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 4: hup being and still the same thing that's oppressed upon you,

521
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 4: hurt people, hurt people, the same oppression in the same

522
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 4: tactics that's used upon you to put you in your place.

523
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 4: You've learned them because You've seen your abuser do these things,

524
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 4: so you will take these same tactics and use it

525
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 4: against somebody else, because no matter what, everybody has a

526
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 4: nigga in their life. You don't have to be black,

527
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 4: but everybody has a nigga group in their life. Somebody

528
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 4: else I can turn around and punch because I'm tired

529
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 4: of being punched.

530
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, And so that's why I think it comes from.

531
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 2: It's for that stuff about her not having black women

532
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:07,480
Speaker 2: around her. I don't think that means shit. I think

533
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 2: a lot of the black women that I see and

534
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 2: that I'm around are these like women is type, you know,

535
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 2: like women that are like very savvy online, a lot

536
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 2: read have you know, read books, have you know, pay attention,

537
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 2: are very vocal about, you know, their own stuff. There's

538
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 2: a contingent of women that just are not represented in

539
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 2: these spaces. You know, your women that are very churched up,

540
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 2: Your women that you know you're Tyler Perry people, Your

541
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 2: women that aren't like trying to read the next fucking

542
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 2: New Way feminist book and shit and online.

543
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 3: Of course this shit is overrepresented.

544
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 2: And that's why I'm like, I try to constantly remind

545
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 2: people that my I always feel like my opinion is

546
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 2: a rare opinion amongst men black men. Whoever, because I'm

547
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 2: reading all this shit, I care about this stuff. I

548
00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 2: have time to to give a fuck. I you know,

549
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 2: I wasn't really indoctrinated heavily the way that a lot

550
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 2: of my friends were growing up. You know, my father

551
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 2: just wasn't one of them type of dudes that you know, like,

552
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 2: So I just I feel differently and I know I'm

553
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 2: different than a lot of dudes. And I'm not here

554
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 2: to like lecture them and teach them because I know

555
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 2: that you really can't like them. Niggas either come around

556
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 2: because they heard some shit and or they don't. But

557
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 2: you know, I see a think piece director, they're like,

558
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 2: let me teach you how to be a good black man.

559
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 2: It nearly just comes off like I'm a better than

560
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 2: you niggas. I ain't like them, y'all like, and it's

561
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 2: and I'm like, there's no value in that for me,

562
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, because to me is more

563
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 2: lonely than anything. It sucks to be the motherfucker. That's like, yeah, guys,

564
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 2: but I mean, like this video y'all sent me, and

565
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 2: this dude punching this woman that slept him on the train,

566
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 2: Like I actually am not.

567
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 4: Entertained by that, you know what I mean, it's hard,

568
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 4: it's funny, right while y'all it's cracking, y'all a fuck

569
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 4: up to see this black woman get punched in the

570
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 4: face and all that is not.

571
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 2: Funny for me. And I don't want to be the

572
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 2: guy on with you, right, I don't want to be

573
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 2: the motherfucker that that that that that makes that ruins

574
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 2: the party. But that is how I feel, and I've

575
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 2: gotta be honest with you, you know. Or and like

576
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 2: I said, I think if you sent that same thing

577
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 2: to a group of black women, there's a large contingent

578
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 2: on with black women and being like, yeah, that shit

579
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 2: is funny. She got what she deserves. She shouldn't have

580
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 2: been because we don't. People don't have time to think

581
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 2: about that ship and like how we've been programmed to

582
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 2: dehumanized and desensitive. We don't have people just trying to

583
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 2: survive day to day, check the check, and a lot

584
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 2: of people haven't processed this ship. You know. When I

585
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 2: have you know, Thanksgiving or Christmas with my aunts and uncles,

586
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 2: they get across the table start yelling out black men,

587
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 2: black women that I mean, even with it being love

588
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 2: in that room, it's still a lot of like, and

589
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 2: y'all do this, and y'all do that, and we gotta

590
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 2: get one, y'all get one, and I don't think we're

591
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 2: ever going to overcome that. So anyway, all that shit

592
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 2: to say, Like, the reason that people fall into that.

593
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 3: Shit is because they need that belief system.

594
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 2: Because if she has to stop saying, you know, black

595
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 2: men have it hard and that's sada da, then she'll

596
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 2: feel like I got to stop saying I got it

597
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 2: hard and I can't shit on the people I want

598
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 2: to shit on, and vice versa. That's why I think

599
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 2: a lot of that comes from with it. And then

600
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 2: the last thing I'll say before we move on. I

601
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 2: know this is long, but there's also a huge part

602
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 2: of this that is patronizing, which is another reason I

603
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 2: don't like it. I don't think patronizing is love, and

604
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 2: I refuse to do it on our show.

605
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 3: I refuse to do it in real life. I just

606
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 3: prefer you to be real with me.

607
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 2: You don't got to be mean or anything. But I

608
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 2: don't like being patronized too. I think that that's something

609
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 2: you do when you are condescending and look down on people,

610
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 2: and a lot of.

611
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 3: Stuff, uh, in the online world, in the academic.

612
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:08,800
Speaker 2: World, in the charity world is black people are real

613
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 2: fucked up charity cases, and they can't learn to do better,

614
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, And they can't fit in,

615
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:20,840
Speaker 2: they can't possibly fit in. And so there's this idea

616
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 2: of like, well, of course black men are bad fathers

617
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 2: or beat their beat their women, or go to prison,

618
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 2: because how could they life is so hard, how could

619
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 2: they possibly ever be shit? They ain't shit. I mean,

620
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 2: it's a miracle. You meet a black man and some

621
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 2: shit you just applot form and they just ignore anything

622
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 2: he's doing is fucked up because hey, at least he

623
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 2: ain't And it's that such a low fucking bar. And

624
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 2: to me, it feels like the racism of lowered expectations,

625
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 2: Like there's one thing to acknowledge the environment on a

626
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 2: macro level, but on a micro level, there's choices that

627
00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 2: we have to make that It's like, okay, bro, but

628
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 2: you you don't have to be transphobic because people are racist.

629
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 2: You don't have to be you know, you don't have

630
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:10,319
Speaker 2: to because life is kicking your ass. You don't have

631
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 2: to come home and be emotionally abusive to your family.

632
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 2: That's not that's not that's not black. That's not inherent

633
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,360
Speaker 2: to my culture. You know when the baby made that

634
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:24,400
Speaker 2: argument of basically being homophobic is inherent to my black culture.

635
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 2: And if you want to have me at your shows,

636
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 2: white people, y'all just need to tolerate my homophobia, which

637
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:32,360
Speaker 2: I thought was that's that's anti black to me.

638
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 3: That's that lowered expectations saying we can't do better.

639
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:39,359
Speaker 2: When white people always bring up how poor, oh, poor

640
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 2: Kevin Hart. I mean, he's just a nice guy. It's like, yeah,

641
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 2: he's a nice guy. He's savvy, he's a mogul. He

642
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 2: can understand. He shouldn't be saying that shit, right.

643
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Speaker 4: Because he stopped doing the comedy.

644
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 2: You know. I like it's so it's that kind of

645
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,759
Speaker 2: thing that that makes it really confusing to me, and

646
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:56,360
Speaker 2: a lot of times.

647
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,360
Speaker 3: Even from our own black people.

648
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 2: People that have certain privileges within the whether it be colorism,

649
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 2: whether it be you know, the bio raciality, whether it

650
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 2: be moneyed black people. Sometimes they even look at other

651
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 2: black people it's like charity. It's like, well, Yeah, that's

652
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 2: how niggas are because they can't be no better. But

653
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:18,400
Speaker 2: I'll you know, we just have to support them, you know,

654
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 2: as a black person, you know they can't help themselves,

655
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 2: and I think that can go too far sometimes. All Right.

656
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:30,439
Speaker 2: The poll was the squad voting no on the infrastructure deal,

657
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 2: good luck or bad look. Ka.

658
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 4: I think it's bad look, but you know that's that's no.

659
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 4: That's what they do, you know, on certain things. But

660
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 4: you know it's one of these things that we're trying

661
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,360
Speaker 4: to get shit done, like with fucking Around.

662
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 2: Eighty eight percent of the audience bad look. I was

663
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:51,879
Speaker 2: a little surprised by this far. I thought it would

664
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Speaker 2: be a lot. I would have I would not have

665
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 2: been surprised if it been the other way, Like if

666
00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:59,359
Speaker 2: it would been eighty eight percent of people saying it's

667
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 2: a good look, twelve percent say it's a good look.

668
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 2: Angela says, I'm gonna say mostly a bad look. I

669
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:08,800
Speaker 2: understand the purpose of the squad. You do want to

670
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 2: push and stare up awareness, but the purity test all

671
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 2: or nothing stances are crazy making. The culture does not

672
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,919
Speaker 2: hold white folks accountable for their racist voting or how

673
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 2: we do race in this country. My mom wrote a

674
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 2: book called When Getting Along is Not Enough, Reconstructing Race

675
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 2: in our lives and relationships. She says race is done

676
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 2: in this country. She says, we focus on the form

677
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,840
Speaker 2: of race instead of the function. In this country. The

678
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 2: way we do race is how we end up with

679
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:37,280
Speaker 2: the VA government election results, governor election results, and Trump

680
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:39,720
Speaker 2: and people complaining about Dems not appealing to those GOP

681
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,400
Speaker 2: white voters. It also is how we end up with

682
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 2: the popular mainstream media question of late how early should

683
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 2: kids learn about race? Yeah? I saw that bullshit the GOP.

684
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 2: I didn't cover on the show because I think everyone

685
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 2: is sufficiently duncked on that. I don't know what them

686
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 2: retweets look like, but they left that shit up because

687
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 2: that's what they wanted, right, Like.

688
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, my kid is called a nigga at five right.

689
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:07,240
Speaker 2: The missing word was white from almost all these titles

690
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 2: of these articles. The missing word is white. The GOP

691
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:14,359
Speaker 2: takes issues the squad like another tacit racist thing.

692
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 3: I think about a lot good white people.

693
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,279
Speaker 2: This is not me talking about Republicans good The good

694
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 2: white people say this all the time. Democrats just need

695
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 2: to make in roads with the working class about white people,

696
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 2: the white working class, and they never specify and they

697
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:35,880
Speaker 2: never will have to. We just apparently nobody is working

698
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:39,919
Speaker 2: class but white people. Bernie Sanders is going a long

699
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:44,879
Speaker 2: time without issuing that correction, with all that explanation and it,

700
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 2: and honestly, when they do specify, it just makes it

701
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 2: worse because then they're going a flat out. I don't

702
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 2: see anybody but white working class people as important when

703
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 2: it comes to demographics. I need to serve with.

704
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 4: My policies, and they act like black and brown people

705
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:02,359
Speaker 4: can't read between them lines right, and like, bitch, I'm

706
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 4: not voting for you.

707
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 2: But yeah, that's it's It just sucks. That's our country

708
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,279
Speaker 2: and it's terrible the geo and no, like I said,

709
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 2: those are the good white people. I think burn Sands

710
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:11,799
Speaker 2: is one of the good white people. I don't think

711
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Speaker 2: I wouldn't put him up there with uh, some of

712
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 2: these fucking Republicans and shit that I think are just

713
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 2: you know, can be even like way more fucked up.

714
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:23,839
Speaker 2: I'm you know, I think his policies, whether he thinks

715
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:25,840
Speaker 2: they're race neutral or not, would end up helping a

716
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:27,719
Speaker 2: lot of people. So it's not you know, black and

717
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 2: brown people, not just white people. But yeah, man, like

718
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,800
Speaker 2: w I know what you're saying, I understand it. Everybody

719
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 2: else can hear what you're saying and most importantly, what

720
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 2: you're not saying, and that's white. The GOP takes issue

721
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 2: with the squad supporters codes and twist them for their

722
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:44,439
Speaker 2: white and coon supporters. Sometimes I wish the Squad would

723
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:47,760
Speaker 2: stop walking into these obvious traps. However, they're being quiet

724
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 2: won't shift the races off of their goals. Due to

725
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 2: the function of race, the blendest non squad damns will

726
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 2: always be a villain to those folks and will always

727
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 2: service something for them to vote against. I don't know

728
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 2: how much affect the Squad on them it has on

729
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 2: them in the end, but I still think it's a

730
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 2: bad look as it encourages other Dems to do stupid

731
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 2: shit like not voting power over compromise. We do have

732
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 2: to keep working though, Like Karen said, my ancestor didn't

733
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 2: suffer in dignities and die so I could sit on

734
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,400
Speaker 2: my ass and not vote. So the GOP can further

735
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 2: act upon the belief that black folks and others they

736
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 2: disdain aren't people and continue to decide that we don't

737
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 2: get right right, Yeah, I hear you, Angela. I mean, like,

738
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 2: maybe I should have offered another answer because it is

739
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 2: my poll, but you know, I really wanted to fly out,

740
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 2: like do y'all think it's good or bad? You know?

741
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 2: And I'm conflicted because I think it's ultimately for the good.

742
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 2: I guess we'll see if they retain their seats. But

743
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 2: if that's what keeps them in their seats and their

744
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 2: voters support that and they see it as a positive,

745
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:52,400
Speaker 2: like oh, you're doing what we sent you to do

746
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:55,760
Speaker 2: to challenge the Democrats to go more to the left,

747
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:59,360
Speaker 2: I think that's ultimately for the good. It didn't really

748
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 2: hurt any body because Nancy don't put shit to the

749
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 2: floor unless she got the vote. And it turns out

750
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 2: that I was right, and Biden delivered on his promise

751
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 2: with hey, I actually can work with these Republicans and

752
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 2: got sixteen of them to flip, which nobody saw coming

753
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 2: and everyone said it was a fool's erran and he

754
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 2: didn't know, but he went in there and white Man

755
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 2: died and it worked, and nobody's gonna go back and

756
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:29,720
Speaker 2: be like, I guess I was wrong, But It's the truth.

757
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 2: They didn't get everything they wanted, but they never have

758
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:34,839
Speaker 2: and they never will. That's never how any of these

759
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:41,360
Speaker 2: fucking things have ever gone with Democrats, period. But and honestly,

760
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:44,279
Speaker 2: to get what you want and not have to compromise,

761
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 2: you need more seats and you need more progressives in

762
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 2: there that that could have a bigger voice, because essentially

763
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 2: they were able to go around the squad, which you know,

764
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 2: which is the part where I said, I can see

765
00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 2: how it's a bad look, but not in the way

766
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 2: that Angela described, just a bad looking like, Oh, y'all

767
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 2: don't have as much power as y'all made it seem

768
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 2: like y'all had. And there's gonna be a lot of

769
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:09,360
Speaker 2: people that voted for them that may be disappointed in

770
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 2: like the lack of like, Oh, I thought y'all could

771
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 2: just go in there and change it. You've been doing

772
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 2: all these speeches telling us this was very easy to change.

773
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 2: All these answers are very popular, and it seems like

774
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 2: you don't really have enough pull to do it yet,

775
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 2: Joe says, at the end of the day, Democrats are

776
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 2: not Republicans, which is good news. People talk about how

777
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 2: Republicans are so locked up. But the only thing that

778
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 2: really brings them together is that fear, anxiety, and hatred

779
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 2: of quote unquote them. Y'all know who I'm referring to here.

780
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:36,800
Speaker 2: Democrats don't like Republicans, but not all to the same degree.

781
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:39,399
Speaker 2: The further Democrat thinks they are from them, the more

782
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 2: chill their relationship with conservatives. The discord can look combative,

783
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:46,720
Speaker 2: but it's how Democrats make sure that all views are heard.

784
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,239
Speaker 2: If the squad ki's quiet, can we expect the more

785
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 2: moderate members to include progressive needs. Nope. And that's why

786
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 2: I'll say I don't think it's necessarily a bad look.

787
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 2: What we all need is to be able to tell

788
00:42:56,239 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 2: constructive information and feedback from just plain noise. Yeah. Another thing,

789
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 2: I don't think people haven't noticed Nancy and Body and

790
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 2: all them and Schumer. There hasn't been no back and

791
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:11,879
Speaker 2: forth with the squad or anybody like. It hasn't been

792
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:15,359
Speaker 2: like they sold them out, you know. It's been very

793
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:20,720
Speaker 2: much like, yeah, okay, like they didn't vote. That's fine,

794
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 2: we're not talking about them. They did what they gotta do.

795
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 2: We'll see what's up later.

796
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 4: Yeah. And also the thing is, you know what Nancy

797
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 4: was the one that was like, hey, y'all need to

798
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:34,400
Speaker 4: get them security. They like, like you know, people that

799
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:36,880
Speaker 4: act like it's a beef deal. But Nancy was like, Okay,

800
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 4: that they're here, they need to push us. I understand

801
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:43,400
Speaker 4: their purpose. I'm not gonna shit on them, you know,

802
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 4: public or anything like that. But at the same time,

803
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 4: it's one of these things to where she's like, Okay,

804
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 4: y'all can do it on this one, but you know,

805
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:54,319
Speaker 4: some other shit come up. I need y'all votes. Y'all

806
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 4: gonna have to vote.

807
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:58,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like I said, not I can see all

808
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:00,320
Speaker 2: people find it to be a bad one, and I

809
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 2: guess ultimately find out if they get reelected, right, Because

810
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 2: you know, I do think that demotivational politics is so shortsighted.

811
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 2: I can't emphasize that enough. And like I said, at

812
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:17,919
Speaker 2: this point, I've lost relationships over saying that I don't care.

813
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:22,239
Speaker 2: I don't care, honestly, Like if a motherfucker waiting on

814
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 2: me to blink and be like nah, man, I'd rather

815
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:25,919
Speaker 2: we would have lost just to make a point. I'm

816
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 2: never gonna feel that way, and I know that Republicans

817
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 2: will never be have our best interest in mind. And

818
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:34,799
Speaker 2: if they're in power, we will always suffer more. And

819
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:40,880
Speaker 2: so I don't care, but yeah, I do hate this tactic,

820
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 2: and it feels like an online tactic that's taking a

821
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 2: hold of certain members of Congress, and I do wonder

822
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:51,440
Speaker 2: if what the endgame will be for them, because you

823
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:55,840
Speaker 2: can genuflect and represent for social media all them people

824
00:44:55,880 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 2: not in your district, and I assume because I don't

825
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:02,359
Speaker 2: lived there, and so on wrote in about this, but

826
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:05,240
Speaker 2: I've just realized, Hey, I've been running on the assumption

827
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 2: this shit plays well in all these people's district. I

828
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 2: actually don't know that. I just know it plays well

829
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 2: on Twitter, you know what I'm saying. I don't know

830
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 2: what their district thinks about them, and we're gonna find

831
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:16,280
Speaker 2: out when it's time to reelect.

832
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 4: Yes, all right?

833
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 2: And then the Spotify the poe was almost the same

834
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Speaker 2: eighty four percent bad sixteen goods. So yeah, and like

835
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:26,880
Speaker 2: I said, I could just see the argument of his

836
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 2: bad look because y'all flexed and it didn't work, which

837
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 2: is a which is kind of a bad look because like, oh,

838
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 2: y'all signified, but nigga, y'all niggas a week. You know,

839
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:41,360
Speaker 2: we've been. Everybody's been talking about how powerful and strong

840
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:43,759
Speaker 2: and this new thing, and it's been a lot of

841
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 2: media hype and branding for this because y'all haven't built

842
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:49,799
Speaker 2: enough coalition to actually affect shit yet. It's like five

843
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 2: or six of y'all. Right. Anyway, the comment was smoking

844
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Speaker 2: on your top five tonight tonight, and people left comments.

845
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Speaker 2: I am the Omega, says iular veins, BGRS seventy nine says,

846
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Speaker 2: I'm the Omega. Music horder says, I repeat this track

847
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Speaker 2: with lifting weights. It helps me push through baby, and

848
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:13,239
Speaker 2: Angela says, I love how every time Rod asked if

849
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 2: they've already done the official weapon of the show, Care

850
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:17,799
Speaker 2: says tasers, she never answers that they've already done it,

851
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 2: and I haven't done it. I think she don't know either.

852
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Speaker 4: No, I forget y'all. I'm ready to go.

853
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Speaker 2: Lie, Let's go to the next episode, Hot Takes for

854
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 2: Hot Topics. This is when I was feeling spicy. The

855
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:33,359
Speaker 2: extra days off be making me feel spicy. But let

856
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:35,240
Speaker 2: me get on here and just give y'all my points

857
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 2: of view and let them lift the the trees fall

858
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 2: what it may. We had four comments on this episode

859
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 2: Hot Takes for Hot Topics, Eve says, I don't know.

860
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 2: I didn't know Astro World was a place, and I'm

861
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:52,479
Speaker 2: not familiar with any of Travis Scott's music, mainly because

862
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 2: I'm old.

863
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 4: I thought Astro was a baseball stadium show you how

864
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:56,880
Speaker 4: much the fuck I know.

865
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 2: The extent of my knowledge about him is that he's

866
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:02,839
Speaker 2: a rapper, he's had a McDonald's mill, and he dates

867
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 2: Kylie Jenner. That's really the extent of most of the

868
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:08,439
Speaker 2: people on Twitter know about him, to be honest, and

869
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:11,360
Speaker 2: that last one is why they really really hate his ass.

870
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 2: But when I went on Twitter, I saw a lot

871
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:15,880
Speaker 2: of people bringing up his baby and Kylie Jenner.

872
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 3: I honestly think people are so mad because who his

873
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:18,799
Speaker 3: baby mama is.

874
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:22,840
Speaker 2: Other than that, I don't know if Travis is a

875
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:24,799
Speaker 2: huge piece of shit as they claim he is, But

876
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 2: these comments have been so out of pocket. Yeah, and

877
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:34,320
Speaker 2: like I said, it's been a lot of like weird.

878
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 2: I think it's interesting that so much of what's happening

879
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 2: with him is people going from I don't know much

880
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:48,399
Speaker 2: about him or keep up with him, to learning two

881
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 2: or three facts about him. Two oh this nigga murdered

882
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 2: them people. That's a lot to me.

883
00:47:56,960 --> 00:48:00,799
Speaker 4: Yes, I'm not saying a few hours, And I think.

884
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:06,879
Speaker 2: Is ironic that saying I don't know, I guess we'll

885
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 2: see is like some sort of is the hot is

886
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:14,759
Speaker 2: the hot take? Like the hot take of the moment is, Yeah,

887
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:17,839
Speaker 2: I've just learned all this shit about this dude. Maybe

888
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 2: it's as fucked up as y'all say. I don't know,

889
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 2: because I can also think a way is that it's

890
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:25,319
Speaker 2: not fucked up as y'all say, and he won't get

891
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 2: in as much trouble as y'all think, and we'll find out.

892
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:30,880
Speaker 2: You know, it's not like it's not like if the

893
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:33,240
Speaker 2: nig go to prison, be like, oh no, I can't

894
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 2: believe went to It's just gonna be like, oh, I

895
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 2: guess you can go to prison for that. But this

896
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 2: Rolling Stone, I was talking to three guys on the

897
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:46,760
Speaker 2: day and he said, Pearl Jam had someone died a concert.

898
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:50,920
Speaker 2: Uh you know that that fire at that at that

899
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 2: one place that the band was performing and the fucking

900
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:56,279
Speaker 2: people got killed in the stampede. Like somebody will get

901
00:48:56,320 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 2: in trouble because something, you know, some terrible happened. Will

902
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:05,359
Speaker 2: it be Travis Scott was inciting a riot that night

903
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:08,839
Speaker 2: or made an environment where a riot should pop off,

904
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:13,920
Speaker 2: and he's the reason there wasn't enough security or barriers

905
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:15,880
Speaker 2: or any of that stuff. And he will go to

906
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:18,759
Speaker 2: jail maybe, but I'm willing to wait to find out.

907
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, I wouldn't the way to find out. And I

908
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 4: remember Ariota Grande, somebody ended up getting shot. She ended

909
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 4: up having like a big ass thing with like.

910
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 2: A terrorist thing. Though I thought it was like a

911
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 2: terrorist like bombs went off of a concert or something.

912
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:33,719
Speaker 4: I thought people got shot. I don't remember, but I

913
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 4: know it was a big thing. I want to hear

914
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 4: concerts and and you know, it's one of these things where.

915
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:44,360
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, but it's just you know, like I said,

916
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:47,759
Speaker 2: I'm not this. This is not exonerating the dude. Like

917
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:50,319
Speaker 2: that's what was funny to me, was like you know

918
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:52,399
Speaker 2: that y'all not being too hard, y'all not being hard

919
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 2: enough on him? What what what would me being hard

920
00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:59,800
Speaker 2: on him change? What would it matter? I'm allowed to

921
00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 2: be I can wait. You know, it's not like this

922
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 2: nigga listening to us like man Rod and Karen Matt,

923
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:08,440
Speaker 2: I fucked up, Like okay, we'll see man, you know,

924
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:12,760
Speaker 2: but off top, I'm not you Like like I said,

925
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 2: when people shared clips of other artists stopping their concerts

926
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:19,320
Speaker 2: to make sure people are okay, and then.

927
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:22,360
Speaker 3: Being like, he didn't even do this, and then.

928
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:24,840
Speaker 2: Later the clip comes out of him stopping a concert

929
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:28,760
Speaker 2: because someone did pass out. I was just like, yeah, okay,

930
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:30,920
Speaker 2: this just justifies me and saying I don't know what

931
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 2: the fuck happened. And with all them cell phones and

932
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 2: all them cameras, we'll find out. If he was up

933
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:39,319
Speaker 2: there going fuck security boom versus the stage he going,

934
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:41,840
Speaker 2: then he going get in trouble. But if he was

935
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:44,319
Speaker 2: up there just doing his show and motherfuckers decided to

936
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:47,399
Speaker 2: go crazy, then he probably won't get in trouble, not

937
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 2: not as much as people think.

938
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:50,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's all going to pen And I am willing too,

939
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 4: mid I don't know, and I am willing to admit

940
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 4: I will wait for more information to come out, like

941
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 4: I am willing, you know, to admit these things. In

942
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:01,359
Speaker 4: an age of social media where everybody wants to put

943
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:03,719
Speaker 4: a microphone and everybody facing everybody gotta have a hot

944
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 4: take right now, you know, this is the end result

945
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 4: of everybody just finding out everything and being their own

946
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:11,239
Speaker 4: private I investigators.

947
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:15,319
Speaker 2: Was also it's also just being online constantly surrounded by

948
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:17,960
Speaker 2: people that one are looking for some shit to be

949
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 2: mad about, and then two completely reinforced their opinions on

950
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:25,839
Speaker 2: each other over and over and over and suddenly there

951
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:28,920
Speaker 2: can be no truth. But this the same way some

952
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:31,279
Speaker 2: people watching it, and when it's the Illuminati, it's the

953
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:33,840
Speaker 2: satan Q and non shit because they were sitting in

954
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:38,880
Speaker 2: them sucking fucking forums and reddits, just circling and know

955
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 2: what about this? And what about ay dog, take a breath?

956
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 2: We're not The people were saying, well, the police said

957
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:50,399
Speaker 2: the police, so now we believe the police. Because they

958
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 2: also found out already that the police was wrong about

959
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 2: some ship where they said someone got drugged. They were

960
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 2: drugging people with needles at the concert, and then it

961
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 2: turned out they weren't drugging people. It was one security

962
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 2: guard to say he got stabbed with a needle, and

963
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:05,799
Speaker 2: then it turns out that security guard said he didn't

964
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:08,160
Speaker 2: get stabbed with a needle, something about just his neck

965
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 2: was hurt or something like, come on, man, I can wait.

966
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:18,440
Speaker 2: I don't need to conduct a trial in public based

967
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 2: off of just tweets in people's rumors. I can wait,

968
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:23,680
Speaker 2: I don't know what happened, and neither do you if

969
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:27,000
Speaker 2: we're being honest about it. But yeah, so that's how

970
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 2: I felt about that hot take. And then she says

971
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:34,279
Speaker 2: I thought I was crazy. I was the crazy one.

972
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 2: From the way people go after Chris Pratt. He's like

973
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:38,799
Speaker 2: the male Gina Rodriguez. He just breeze and people are

974
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 2: like fuck you. Other than following canvas owners, he really

975
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:44,359
Speaker 2: hasn't done anything offensive. In my opinion, I didn't see

976
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 2: anything wrong with his post about his daughter who doesn't

977
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:51,280
Speaker 2: want a healthy baby. Yeah, man, And like I think

978
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:53,759
Speaker 2: I think I was talking about this on the nerd

979
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 2: off or something. But is it pre game yea something Yeah,

980
00:52:57,719 --> 00:52:59,880
Speaker 2: maybe pre game, but because yeah, because Justin asked me

981
00:52:59,880 --> 00:53:02,759
Speaker 2: about what was happening, and I think this is what

982
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:09,120
Speaker 2: my ultimate thought is. I assume there's gonna be white

983
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 2: people who are conservatives in full stop. So once I

984
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 2: assume that, because I'm not a fucking idiot, and neither

985
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 2: are you, they're gonna exist. They're gonna work, they're gonna

986
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 2: make products, they're gonna do things that I enjoy. They're

987
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 2: gonna own restaurants. They're gonna do all this shit, and

988
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:38,239
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, all that I ask

989
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:41,919
Speaker 2: of those people is that they shut the fuck up.

990
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:48,000
Speaker 2: That's all I ask. I'm not some idealist where I

991
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:50,800
Speaker 2: think the world is only good people make good products.

992
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:56,120
Speaker 2: Hey man, you go vote for your Republicans. I hope

993
00:53:56,120 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 2: you lose, but then you just keep it to yourself.

994
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:03,839
Speaker 2: Just keep it to yourself, doc, That's all I ask.

995
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:05,880
Speaker 2: And maybe that's some gen X shit of me. I

996
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 2: don't know, maybe that's right. Maybe it's just because I'm

997
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:10,799
Speaker 2: forty something now, but I just grew up that way.

998
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:13,680
Speaker 2: I've always felt that way. I don't care what you

999
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:16,120
Speaker 2: make that I enjoy. I don't give a fuck if

1000
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 2: you agree with me politically or not. Not really my business.

1001
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:22,240
Speaker 2: But I would ask that you leave me the fuck

1002
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:25,200
Speaker 2: out of it, right and just make it easy for me.

1003
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 2: You want to go, you super religious, and you want

1004
00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:31,600
Speaker 2: to fucking you don't got this marvel job, and you

1005
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:33,800
Speaker 2: know that that's an environment where if you start tweeting

1006
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:36,000
Speaker 2: that bullshit, you're gonna be up out of there. And

1007
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:39,799
Speaker 2: you don't. That's all I'm asking, baby, that's smart. I

1008
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:43,520
Speaker 2: respect that, like, don't I don't need you to go

1009
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 2: Gina Corono for me. Gina Toronto fucked up the Mandalorian

1010
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:50,320
Speaker 2: For me, I'm just like, oh God, why caundn't you

1011
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:55,000
Speaker 2: be a quiet, meathead conservative conspiracy nut like you were before?

1012
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:57,240
Speaker 4: Played that role so well and I was like, Fuck,

1013
00:54:57,280 --> 00:54:59,440
Speaker 4: we're not even gonna get a fucking series. And it

1014
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:00,560
Speaker 4: would have been Flames.

1015
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:00,920
Speaker 2: I was like.

1016
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:02,759
Speaker 4: And the thing is they tried to work with her.

1017
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 4: She wouldn't shut the fuck up.

1018
00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:07,839
Speaker 2: So he don't say shit, you know what I mean?

1019
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 2: Like he so to me. I can see how people

1020
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 2: think he's a bad person because he might be. He

1021
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:16,239
Speaker 2: might be fucked up. I don't know. I think they're

1022
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:19,960
Speaker 2: trying to go to them into saying something and he won't.

1023
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:23,520
Speaker 2: He's just gonna keep being like I'm gonna be a corny,

1024
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:29,480
Speaker 2: corny white guy conservative that doesn't say shit. Fine, Fine.

1025
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:31,839
Speaker 2: I think he's great at Star Lord. I think he's great.

1026
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:34,240
Speaker 2: One of my favorite parts of that movie ain't Guardian

1027
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:37,160
Speaker 2: of Galaxy. Don't give a fuck about his politics, don't care.

1028
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:40,879
Speaker 2: He is even better because he don't say shit, because

1029
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:43,440
Speaker 2: he could be worse. He could be out here stumping

1030
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:47,879
Speaker 2: for them and giving those conservatives somebody to root, because

1031
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:50,360
Speaker 2: you know, they would love if he started being like

1032
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:53,120
Speaker 2: people are bullying me because I'm a Republican and it's

1033
00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:56,080
Speaker 2: not right. They would love a hero like that, someone

1034
00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:58,919
Speaker 2: that's integral to that universe, that Disney won't get rid

1035
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:02,480
Speaker 2: of for just being a conservative. They gonna they'll be like, well,

1036
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:05,280
Speaker 2: we can't just fire people because they Democrats are conservatives,

1037
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 2: because then what we're gonna do, right, So, so like,

1038
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:09,680
Speaker 2: I'm glad he just just to fuck up and gets

1039
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:12,799
Speaker 2: money and goes back to his house and goes to

1040
00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:14,680
Speaker 2: his church and do whatever the fuck he do. I'm

1041
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 2: happy with that. And when I read that list of

1042
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:18,440
Speaker 2: the motherfuckers like we at that church, I was like, oh,

1043
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:22,680
Speaker 2: this ain't even about that. Y'all full of shit, Like

1044
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:26,520
Speaker 2: so yeah, that stuff about his baby, I honestly don't

1045
00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:30,120
Speaker 2: see how anybody doesn't understand how fucked up they are

1046
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:35,239
Speaker 2: to throw his child in his face, like we're really

1047
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:41,360
Speaker 2: supporting your not healthy, bad child. That's what y'all saying. Tactically,

1048
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:46,520
Speaker 2: you're saying he's a fucking sociopath that would wink at

1049
00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:48,880
Speaker 2: the camera and be like this is really just a

1050
00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:54,239
Speaker 2: negative post about my other child, and y'all can believe that.

1051
00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:59,799
Speaker 2: But in order for me to believe that, I when

1052
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:03,360
Speaker 2: I that, I can only think of two things. One either.

1053
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:05,840
Speaker 2: He is one of the sickest people on the fucking

1054
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:10,879
Speaker 2: planet and he's so smart and so clever that he

1055
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:13,920
Speaker 2: wants to vilify his own child and put it in

1056
00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:17,480
Speaker 2: his Instagram post for the world to see. And he

1057
00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:19,680
Speaker 2: was hoping everybody would see it so he could go

1058
00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:21,440
Speaker 2: home and go more ha ha ha, I hate my

1059
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:29,440
Speaker 2: child or b you motherfuckers are crazy, And I'm thinking

1060
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 2: it's because we don't know that child. We didn't raise

1061
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:37,960
Speaker 2: that child. He I don't know that child's name. He does, right,

1062
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:40,360
Speaker 2: everything we know about that child because of him and

1063
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:44,080
Speaker 2: his famous mama and his famous dad. Like that child

1064
00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:49,640
Speaker 2: to us is nothing but that batar. It's an avatar

1065
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:52,800
Speaker 2: for people to say you don't care about your own child.

1066
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 2: And if it's true, I'm gonna need a lot more

1067
00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:58,840
Speaker 2: evidence than that post. Yes, sir, you know I understand

1068
00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:00,680
Speaker 2: if you just got the post, is was whack because

1069
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:02,600
Speaker 2: it wasn't that funny as kind of corny as that

1070
00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:05,120
Speaker 2: patriarchal like look at how she looked at me. Yeah,

1071
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:07,960
Speaker 2: that's cool, but it was another level for people to

1072
00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:10,680
Speaker 2: be like, well, what this is really your belt? I'm like, oh,

1073
00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:13,520
Speaker 2: you be on the internet a lot because it ain't

1074
00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:15,280
Speaker 2: no same person. I could just show that to in

1075
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 2: the world and be like, what do you think about this?

1076
00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:20,520
Speaker 2: Clearly this man is hiding another child that is not healthy,

1077
00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:24,040
Speaker 2: which is a word we decided. And also you mad

1078
00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:28,040
Speaker 2: able list to be you mad ablest to act like

1079
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:31,040
Speaker 2: you putting on for people to be like, yeah, what

1080
00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:33,760
Speaker 2: this really means is he sees his child this way.

1081
00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 2: We don't know that. At least catch him saying it.

1082
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:41,880
Speaker 4: Damn at least have the ex wife come out and

1083
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:45,160
Speaker 4: say he's done something directly or something like she's been quiet,

1084
00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:47,480
Speaker 4: Yeah I'm making sit up.

1085
00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:50,400
Speaker 2: That's like when that's like if you like That's like

1086
00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:52,880
Speaker 2: if they took that same post and said, actually, this

1087
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:55,040
Speaker 2: is about Anna Faris, which no one did, by the way,

1088
00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:57,520
Speaker 2: which is interesting, right because he's talking about his new wife.

1089
00:58:58,040 --> 00:59:01,160
Speaker 2: He has an ex wife. No one went see what

1090
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:03,760
Speaker 2: he's saying is Anna Fairs didn't look at him that

1091
00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:06,160
Speaker 2: way and she didn't love him, and that's the real thing.

1092
00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:08,680
Speaker 2: No one they went straight to that baby because they

1093
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:12,040
Speaker 2: knew that you can't argue when someone throws something that

1094
00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:14,400
Speaker 2: evil in your face, you just gotta go yep, he

1095
00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:17,800
Speaker 2: must be evil. I don't want no smoke anyway. I

1096
00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:20,600
Speaker 2: think that's really fucked up. I don't know how people

1097
00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:24,840
Speaker 2: just do shit like that. Ali says, there's one other

1098
00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:27,040
Speaker 2: industry where people are allowed to operate without knowing how

1099
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:29,840
Speaker 2: to work with black people. Tattoos work on black people.

1100
00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:33,120
Speaker 2: I had one o FA artist who turned me away

1101
00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:34,840
Speaker 2: when she saw I was black, and she refused to

1102
00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:41,320
Speaker 2: return my deposit. Ooh, return your deposit? How's that legal?

1103
00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:41,880
Speaker 8: Yeah?

1104
00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:45,720
Speaker 4: Because and I was watched I've watched the documentary on

1105
00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:52,720
Speaker 4: uh tattoos and tattoo artists. And the thing is is

1106
00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:57,160
Speaker 4: that because of the pigmentation of our skin, it's a

1107
00:59:57,200 --> 00:59:59,720
Speaker 4: certain way that you have to kind of tattoo on

1108
00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:02,320
Speaker 4: our skin to make make our ink lass and things

1109
01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:05,560
Speaker 4: like that. Because a lot of times people see tattoos,

1110
01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:09,040
Speaker 4: they see white tattoos, tattoos done only kind of like

1111
01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:10,919
Speaker 4: almost like a white surface. So when they have those

1112
01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:14,720
Speaker 4: colors and those very very details and they popp and

1113
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:17,600
Speaker 4: shit like that, when you do our skin, it doesn't

1114
01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:20,680
Speaker 4: come out the same way or it fades because our skin.

1115
01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:24,000
Speaker 4: It was a black lady who's the tattoo artist, and

1116
01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:26,880
Speaker 4: she was showing like her tattoos that she has when

1117
01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:29,400
Speaker 4: she was younger, and she was like, yeah, these tattoos

1118
01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:32,000
Speaker 4: didn't last because for a lot of black skin tones,

1119
01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:35,800
Speaker 4: the tattoos actually need to be bigger and larger because

1120
01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:37,960
Speaker 4: of our skin tone. And then they was like, it

1121
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:40,760
Speaker 4: actually will last longer over time the larger it is

1122
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:43,880
Speaker 4: and not the less the less details it is. And

1123
01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:48,120
Speaker 4: you know certain ink you have to use on our

1124
01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:50,160
Speaker 4: skin to make it last, and things like that, and

1125
01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:52,560
Speaker 4: so it's almost like hair a lot of time. That

1126
01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:55,760
Speaker 4: time's funny. Who knows if they even tattoo on brown's

1127
01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:58,160
Speaker 4: skin when they learn how to tattoo.

1128
01:00:58,120 --> 01:01:00,600
Speaker 2: Right, right, So I think that's why they said that

1129
01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:03,800
Speaker 2: actually because of reminder of the hair thing. But yeah,

1130
01:01:03,840 --> 01:01:08,040
Speaker 2: I mean that is foul and I can't I can't

1131
01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:11,560
Speaker 2: even imagine not getting the deposit back. I'm taking something

1132
01:01:11,560 --> 01:01:13,360
Speaker 2: out of that, out of that tattoo shop.

1133
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:15,000
Speaker 4: There, I'm soon the fut of you give me my

1134
01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:16,560
Speaker 4: goddamn money back. You didn't do shit.

1135
01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:19,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, And just from the picture Alice has as her avatar,

1136
01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:23,280
Speaker 2: she's not even that dark for them to be like,

1137
01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:26,520
Speaker 2: give me your motherfucking money back. You can't have your

1138
01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:30,080
Speaker 2: money back? You crazy? What you crazy say? Like Agney says,

1139
01:01:30,080 --> 01:01:32,760
Speaker 2: I'm like you ride with this stupid performative hated Chris Pratt.

1140
01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:35,040
Speaker 2: I mean the worst or best Chris game was funny

1141
01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:37,040
Speaker 2: for a bit, but people are taking it to this

1142
01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:39,480
Speaker 2: that this that this day for due too far. You

1143
01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:42,800
Speaker 2: mentioned actors who were fucked up inside the MCU, be

1144
01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:45,520
Speaker 2: it prior, during, or even after their runs. For instance,

1145
01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:47,919
Speaker 2: I love Robert Downey Jr. And his Tony Stark run,

1146
01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:50,280
Speaker 2: but he rarely gets a peep thrown at him about

1147
01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:53,280
Speaker 2: his friendship to Mel Gibson. Matter of fact, for much

1148
01:01:53,280 --> 01:01:56,080
Speaker 2: of the hell raised on Pratt, Robert Downey Jr. Took

1149
01:01:56,120 --> 01:01:58,760
Speaker 2: a photo with George W. Bush and Lord Bush. It

1150
01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:01,520
Speaker 2: was many years ago before career resurgence, and he was

1151
01:02:01,560 --> 01:02:04,200
Speaker 2: in a magazine that dealt with coming back into the limelight.

1152
01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:07,880
Speaker 2: Never comes up though, doesn't even come up that he's

1153
01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:10,560
Speaker 2: an independent. Essentially, he was a liberal a while back,

1154
01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:13,120
Speaker 2: but not now, or that he was on an episode

1155
01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:16,320
Speaker 2: of Joe Rogan's podcast in twenty twenty promoting the movie Doolittle.

1156
01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:20,120
Speaker 2: Nobody sends those pitchforks at William Hurt, Josh Brolin, Tia,

1157
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:24,640
Speaker 2: Samuel Jackson, Evangeline Lily, Michael Douglass, Kate Blanchet, etc.

1158
01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:25,440
Speaker 1: Hm.

1159
01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:28,600
Speaker 2: They all got different shit. You already mentioned. Zoe's our

1160
01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:31,440
Speaker 2: daughter in Chris Hilburk. Yeah, Zoe's the one for me

1161
01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:34,680
Speaker 2: because she be in She's in Guardians of the Galaxy.

1162
01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:37,240
Speaker 2: They don't even come for Zoe. She was the one

1163
01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:39,360
Speaker 2: told us we need to feel bad for Trump and

1164
01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:42,600
Speaker 2: that was like two years into his administration. She did

1165
01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:46,080
Speaker 2: the black face needed some ow shit. They don't even

1166
01:02:46,120 --> 01:02:49,040
Speaker 2: come for her like they come for Chris Pratt. Like,

1167
01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:53,520
Speaker 2: I honestly do not understand how people do not see

1168
01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:56,840
Speaker 2: how fundamentally evil it was to throw that shit up

1169
01:02:56,840 --> 01:03:00,400
Speaker 2: about his child. You are just a fucked up person.

1170
01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:03,880
Speaker 2: You are fucked up man. You need to stop breathe

1171
01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:06,120
Speaker 2: and think about that shit. Why did you get caught

1172
01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:09,800
Speaker 2: up in that level of fuckery? Man? That's a fucking child.

1173
01:03:10,760 --> 01:03:14,720
Speaker 2: Can you imagine? And then laughed when it was like, yeah, man,

1174
01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:18,360
Speaker 2: I couldn't even fucking sleep last night, and you know

1175
01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:20,680
Speaker 2: I went out and jogged and people was like we

1176
01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:25,680
Speaker 2: made him cry, like you're fucking in that is so insensitive.

1177
01:03:25,160 --> 01:03:27,840
Speaker 4: And they see blood in the water that that's not right.

1178
01:03:29,160 --> 01:03:30,440
Speaker 2: What the fuck is wrong with you?

1179
01:03:30,520 --> 01:03:30,720
Speaker 1: Man?

1180
01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:34,720
Speaker 2: It's like it's one of those times where like when

1181
01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:37,520
Speaker 2: when people talk about the whole cancel culture thing, when

1182
01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:42,840
Speaker 2: they talk about the people being online and how toxic

1183
01:03:42,880 --> 01:03:45,480
Speaker 2: and shit it can be, and you know, and and

1184
01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:47,439
Speaker 2: it's easy to push back and like shut the fuck

1185
01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:49,200
Speaker 2: up and that you know, it's not that bad. People

1186
01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:51,960
Speaker 2: ain't getting canceled. But then there's moments like that where

1187
01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:55,760
Speaker 2: you're like, there is something vile there, and that's from

1188
01:03:55,800 --> 01:03:59,000
Speaker 2: people claiming to be good. That's not from people, that's

1189
01:03:59,040 --> 01:04:01,360
Speaker 2: not from the people that y'are typically throw up. There's like,

1190
01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:05,360
Speaker 2: look at these motherfucking mag and motherfuckers, Like, nah, that's

1191
01:04:05,480 --> 01:04:09,120
Speaker 2: some weird energy right there, and I don't fuck with it,

1192
01:04:09,720 --> 01:04:13,200
Speaker 2: you know. Uh yeah, And Chris Hansworth so I won't

1193
01:04:13,240 --> 01:04:16,480
Speaker 2: rehash those, but these people I've named have drug battles,

1194
01:04:16,520 --> 01:04:19,600
Speaker 2: domestic violence, settlement, et cetera. On the resume, no one.

1195
01:04:19,480 --> 01:04:21,280
Speaker 3: Cares, and all Pratt does is work and keep it

1196
01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:21,760
Speaker 3: to himself.

1197
01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:23,400
Speaker 2: A lot of our favorite actors at the beginning of

1198
01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:26,640
Speaker 2: the profession weren't leftists and we never stopped watching that shit.

1199
01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:29,880
Speaker 2: But I gotta stop watching. I gotta stop watching Want

1200
01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:32,800
Speaker 2: It because Pratt seying it with Angelina Jolee and James McAvoy.

1201
01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:35,920
Speaker 2: Or stop watching Glengarry glen Ross because it's written by

1202
01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:38,360
Speaker 2: Republican and David Mammott and has Alec Boling in it.

1203
01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:41,840
Speaker 2: People truly need a hug and hobby. Yeah, and another

1204
01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:44,600
Speaker 2: one you didn't mention. I don't think Yeah, I don't

1205
01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:47,800
Speaker 2: think you mentioned Letitia Wright. They're about that have to

1206
01:04:47,840 --> 01:04:50,560
Speaker 2: shut down the whole fucking filming of that shit. She's

1207
01:04:50,600 --> 01:04:54,680
Speaker 2: she shared a fucking uh, she shared a conspiracy theory

1208
01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:58,520
Speaker 2: of anti vaxster shit and it was from some transphobic

1209
01:04:58,640 --> 01:05:03,400
Speaker 2: ass uh pastors and shit and people just on some

1210
01:05:03,600 --> 01:05:05,840
Speaker 2: like she Man, they just need to hurb and get

1211
01:05:05,840 --> 01:05:07,720
Speaker 2: this movie done and none of that. And it's like,

1212
01:05:09,560 --> 01:05:13,480
Speaker 2: she literally gave y'all the fuel to be like you

1213
01:05:13,640 --> 01:05:15,760
Speaker 2: piece of shit, and y'all, I'm not gonna do that

1214
01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:18,080
Speaker 2: to that woman. And I get why because she's a

1215
01:05:18,120 --> 01:05:20,960
Speaker 2: black girl, black woman, and we all rooting for her

1216
01:05:21,040 --> 01:05:23,280
Speaker 2: and we even with her being fouless, like man, I

1217
01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:24,960
Speaker 2: hope she can figure that out. We don't want to

1218
01:05:25,040 --> 01:05:27,320
Speaker 2: have to like put that. You know, we were all

1219
01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:30,760
Speaker 2: just happy, like oh Black Panther Surry and Latitia Wright,

1220
01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:33,720
Speaker 2: this young powerful actress, and now it's like this Ohn shit,

1221
01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:37,880
Speaker 2: she might be found the vitriy'all is never gonna be

1222
01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:40,160
Speaker 2: the same. And so it's something about the fact that

1223
01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:43,760
Speaker 2: it was like the internet hive mind of we can

1224
01:05:43,880 --> 01:05:46,880
Speaker 2: jump on this person. We're all jumping them, and these

1225
01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:49,680
Speaker 2: motherfuckers are not better. And it's one of the things

1226
01:05:49,720 --> 01:05:52,840
Speaker 2: that it's really giving me a lot of pause about

1227
01:05:52,840 --> 01:05:55,320
Speaker 2: some of this shit, cause it's like, I don't think

1228
01:05:55,520 --> 01:06:00,640
Speaker 2: us hopping on this group shit is always good and

1229
01:06:00,720 --> 01:06:02,880
Speaker 2: it's okay to stop and think. And if they won't

1230
01:06:02,960 --> 01:06:05,040
Speaker 2: let you stop and think, if they won't let you

1231
01:06:05,080 --> 01:06:08,120
Speaker 2: be like, hold up, man, I don't know, then what

1232
01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:09,200
Speaker 2: fucking grod is that?

1233
01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:15,000
Speaker 4: Yeah? And the thing is people do fucked up shit,

1234
01:06:15,080 --> 01:06:17,240
Speaker 4: not understanding people have the right to be angry about

1235
01:06:17,240 --> 01:06:20,560
Speaker 4: shit they did. But sometimes people compare apples to oranges

1236
01:06:20,640 --> 01:06:25,440
Speaker 4: sometimes and sometimes he did a post and I'm not

1237
01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:27,200
Speaker 4: saying he might have things to be past. I don't

1238
01:06:27,240 --> 01:06:29,000
Speaker 4: know about that. And some of y'all know and I

1239
01:06:29,080 --> 01:06:31,880
Speaker 4: understand you being angry, but that shit right there has

1240
01:06:31,920 --> 01:06:34,560
Speaker 4: nothing to do with this motherfucking post. And so y'all

1241
01:06:34,600 --> 01:06:36,600
Speaker 4: take all this other shit and y'all apply it to

1242
01:06:36,640 --> 01:06:39,520
Speaker 4: that like they are all one thing. And sometimes shit

1243
01:06:39,680 --> 01:06:42,560
Speaker 4: just happens individually and it doesn't need to be all

1244
01:06:42,600 --> 01:06:45,760
Speaker 4: rumped up, because sometimes it does, but in this situation, no,

1245
01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:48,040
Speaker 4: it doesn't. And you know, and I feel like it's

1246
01:06:48,120 --> 01:06:51,040
Speaker 4: unrealistic for people to think that everybody else should be

1247
01:06:51,080 --> 01:06:52,960
Speaker 4: as mad as them just because they're mad.

1248
01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:56,800
Speaker 2: Yeah. Man, it's just I don't know, man, But that's

1249
01:06:56,840 --> 01:06:59,439
Speaker 2: why you really can't have a lot of faith in people.

1250
01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:02,080
Speaker 2: You can't pull you know, it's just like people. It's

1251
01:07:02,120 --> 01:07:04,760
Speaker 2: still high school for a lot of people. It secure.

1252
01:07:04,840 --> 01:07:06,680
Speaker 2: Pen Dragon says, Hey, Karen and Rod, thank you for

1253
01:07:06,680 --> 01:07:08,200
Speaker 2: putting in the words how I felt about the Chris

1254
01:07:08,200 --> 01:07:10,960
Speaker 2: Pratt situation. I'm surprised because I thought this was the

1255
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:14,120
Speaker 2: hottest of the hot takes. I didn't realize that this

1256
01:07:14,160 --> 01:07:16,080
Speaker 2: would be the one that y'all people would be like, oh,

1257
01:07:16,080 --> 01:07:19,160
Speaker 2: you see it too. Thank God. I've only really been

1258
01:07:19,200 --> 01:07:21,000
Speaker 2: active on Twitter for a few years, and I always

1259
01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:23,840
Speaker 2: remember when flying that flying monkey syndrome was discussed on

1260
01:07:23,880 --> 01:07:29,040
Speaker 2: the podcast, so I checked myself before joining Palms Child. Yes,

1261
01:07:29,360 --> 01:07:33,920
Speaker 2: changed everything I see about the Internet, about people online everything.

1262
01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:36,720
Speaker 2: When I found out about that narcissists and the flying monkeys,

1263
01:07:37,160 --> 01:07:39,840
Speaker 2: especially the flying monkeys, that was when I was like

1264
01:07:40,080 --> 01:07:45,000
Speaker 2: at one. It really helped me form boundaries. I would

1265
01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:47,280
Speaker 2: even say reading that was the start of like a

1266
01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:53,200
Speaker 2: new way of me viewing life, because I definitely was

1267
01:07:53,320 --> 01:07:56,960
Speaker 2: on that list of people that a narcissists would see

1268
01:07:56,960 --> 01:08:02,880
Speaker 2: as a valuable resource and the EmPATH in me and

1269
01:08:02,920 --> 01:08:05,120
Speaker 2: the like gotta give them the benefit of the doubt.

1270
01:08:05,120 --> 01:08:11,760
Speaker 2: Shit was sucker all day, sucker all day. And I

1271
01:08:11,840 --> 01:08:14,760
Speaker 2: never got to the point because you know, Roddy and

1272
01:08:14,800 --> 01:08:18,439
Speaker 2: Judy ain't ain't raised no no, no, no sheep or

1273
01:08:18,479 --> 01:08:20,920
Speaker 2: bully or whatever the fuck. But I never got to

1274
01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:23,200
Speaker 2: the point where I was going online of harassing people,

1275
01:08:24,040 --> 01:08:27,080
Speaker 2: thank god, because I don't. I think I would be

1276
01:08:27,280 --> 01:08:29,639
Speaker 2: so remorseful and regretful for that shit. I don't even

1277
01:08:29,640 --> 01:08:31,840
Speaker 2: know what I would do with myself. But I never

1278
01:08:31,880 --> 01:08:34,759
Speaker 2: got to the point where I was like finding people

1279
01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:39,360
Speaker 2: and tagging them and starting ship with them necessarily, but

1280
01:08:39,560 --> 01:08:42,320
Speaker 2: I definitely was like, well everybody else is talking about

1281
01:08:42,320 --> 01:08:44,880
Speaker 2: this person, might as well join in with the crowd.

1282
01:08:45,000 --> 01:08:47,440
Speaker 2: I mean, they'll think it's funny. I'll get some retweets,

1283
01:08:47,479 --> 01:08:50,800
Speaker 2: I'll get some likes and some laugh reactions, and that's

1284
01:08:50,800 --> 01:08:53,000
Speaker 2: really what I'm in it for. And then I just

1285
01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:56,479
Speaker 2: remember one day being like that, ain't me? Like what

1286
01:08:56,600 --> 01:08:59,280
Speaker 2: the fuck? And why does this person need me to

1287
01:08:59,360 --> 01:09:02,000
Speaker 2: be that? To be cool to them, to be their friend?

1288
01:09:02,720 --> 01:09:04,519
Speaker 2: Every day I need to wake up and find some

1289
01:09:04,600 --> 01:09:08,760
Speaker 2: reason to harass or talk shit about some celebrity or

1290
01:09:08,800 --> 01:09:09,240
Speaker 2: what like.

1291
01:09:09,520 --> 01:09:11,599
Speaker 3: That's not even a friendship at that point, Yeah.

1292
01:09:11,520 --> 01:09:13,960
Speaker 4: Buy some shit that Actually, at the end of the day,

1293
01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:16,080
Speaker 4: I actually don't give a fuck about. What I've realized

1294
01:09:16,160 --> 01:09:18,240
Speaker 4: is a lot of shit that happens online. Yeah, I've

1295
01:09:18,280 --> 01:09:19,920
Speaker 4: realized I don't care.

1296
01:09:20,080 --> 01:09:23,200
Speaker 2: I don't know your children's names. I don't know where

1297
01:09:23,280 --> 01:09:27,800
Speaker 2: you live, I don't know how I don't know anything

1298
01:09:27,840 --> 01:09:29,799
Speaker 2: about you and your family and how you were raised.

1299
01:09:29,840 --> 01:09:33,920
Speaker 2: I don't know you know details that friends know about

1300
01:09:33,960 --> 01:09:36,320
Speaker 2: each other. I don't know those things. But I do

1301
01:09:36,479 --> 01:09:39,320
Speaker 2: know the seventeen celebrities you hate and why we need

1302
01:09:39,360 --> 01:09:40,360
Speaker 2: to talk about them every day.

1303
01:09:40,439 --> 01:09:40,960
Speaker 5: That's great.

1304
01:09:41,680 --> 01:09:43,519
Speaker 2: This is such an unnecessary use of energy. And I

1305
01:09:43,520 --> 01:09:46,599
Speaker 2: see the same thing happening with Will and Jada. Yeah,

1306
01:09:46,600 --> 01:09:48,799
Speaker 2: the Will and Jada thing is real fucked up. Because

1307
01:09:49,080 --> 01:09:53,799
Speaker 2: I was thinking about this today. People spent a large

1308
01:09:53,800 --> 01:09:58,160
Speaker 2: part of my life trying to convince me that the

1309
01:09:58,240 --> 01:10:01,400
Speaker 2: real problem with black men is is that they need

1310
01:10:01,400 --> 01:10:05,120
Speaker 2: to open up. You need therapy, You need to be vulnerable,

1311
01:10:05,479 --> 01:10:09,880
Speaker 2: you need to have that honesty, You need to be

1312
01:10:10,040 --> 01:10:15,280
Speaker 2: willing to, you know, bear your soul, and that in

1313
01:10:15,400 --> 01:10:20,600
Speaker 2: that you will find some value in putting down the

1314
01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:24,000
Speaker 2: shield that you wear around yourself at all times in

1315
01:10:24,080 --> 01:10:28,559
Speaker 2: order to survive. Right, and especially because a lot of

1316
01:10:28,600 --> 01:10:31,320
Speaker 2: it's self inflicted, A lot of it is patriarchal, A

1317
01:10:31,360 --> 01:10:34,840
Speaker 2: lot of it is how people think we should be

1318
01:10:35,120 --> 01:10:38,160
Speaker 2: to survive. It's a lot of like be tough, you know, boy,

1319
01:10:38,200 --> 01:10:40,400
Speaker 2: men don't boys don't cry, you know that kind of shit.

1320
01:10:41,080 --> 01:10:44,200
Speaker 2: And of all the men in America, I feel like

1321
01:10:44,240 --> 01:10:48,280
Speaker 2: black men feel like the we can afford to do

1322
01:10:48,320 --> 01:10:51,240
Speaker 2: that the least because the consequences are so fucking dire.

1323
01:10:51,400 --> 01:10:55,280
Speaker 2: It is very you know, wolf territory type shit. But

1324
01:10:55,800 --> 01:10:58,240
Speaker 2: over my lifetime, people have been like, nah, open up,

1325
01:10:59,080 --> 01:11:01,000
Speaker 2: you know, it's okay to cry, It's okay to be disappointed.

1326
01:11:01,040 --> 01:11:02,840
Speaker 2: It's okay to love, it's okay to touch each other,

1327
01:11:02,920 --> 01:11:07,960
Speaker 2: it's okay to ug, it's okay to it's okay to

1328
01:11:08,000 --> 01:11:10,799
Speaker 2: be gay, It's okay, it's okay. Like all this stuff

1329
01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:13,479
Speaker 2: that's just like kind of recently in my lifetime turned

1330
01:11:13,479 --> 01:11:16,080
Speaker 2: into like, yeah, this is what this is okay to

1331
01:11:16,120 --> 01:11:20,280
Speaker 2: want these things as black men. And then every time

1332
01:11:20,320 --> 01:11:24,040
Speaker 2: I've noticed a black man be like, I've gone to therapy,

1333
01:11:24,080 --> 01:11:26,559
Speaker 2: I'm doing this work, and I do kind of want

1334
01:11:26,600 --> 01:11:29,000
Speaker 2: to talk about it and destigmatize it as y'all told

1335
01:11:29,000 --> 01:11:31,920
Speaker 2: me to do. I want to share that so other

1336
01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:34,960
Speaker 2: black men can hear it and go, oh, this is

1337
01:11:35,000 --> 01:11:37,320
Speaker 2: this development or this is this issue you had and

1338
01:11:37,360 --> 01:11:40,439
Speaker 2: you overcame it somehow, and you're trying to connect right

1339
01:11:40,479 --> 01:11:43,240
Speaker 2: now and tell me I can overcome it, to tell

1340
01:11:43,280 --> 01:11:49,320
Speaker 2: me you're not alone, you know. And every fucking time

1341
01:11:51,160 --> 01:11:56,320
Speaker 2: that person gets mocked by the same group, not no

1342
01:11:56,479 --> 01:12:00,760
Speaker 2: other outside group, not no motherfucking like internal grips. Like

1343
01:12:01,479 --> 01:12:06,120
Speaker 2: the same people that told me this is the way

1344
01:12:06,760 --> 01:12:09,519
Speaker 2: are the same people that say, shut the fuck up,

1345
01:12:09,960 --> 01:12:12,680
Speaker 2: this is stupid. You look like a simp. You let

1346
01:12:12,760 --> 01:12:15,840
Speaker 2: your sound dumb, your sound fucked up? What about the

1347
01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:18,599
Speaker 2: mistakes you made? It's like it's like, well, I'm telling

1348
01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:20,960
Speaker 2: you how I learned from those mistakes and how it

1349
01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:23,479
Speaker 2: made me a better person. Don't nobody want to hear that?

1350
01:12:23,600 --> 01:12:26,120
Speaker 2: How come you get to talk and that type of

1351
01:12:26,160 --> 01:12:29,479
Speaker 2: shit and it and every time it's just reinforced that lesson, like, no,

1352
01:12:29,600 --> 01:12:32,160
Speaker 2: go back into your fucking shell. Don't nobody want to

1353
01:12:32,160 --> 01:12:35,320
Speaker 2: hear this shit. Just keep piling it in until you break.

1354
01:12:35,439 --> 01:12:37,840
Speaker 2: That's that's the right thing to do, because at the

1355
01:12:37,960 --> 01:12:40,360
Speaker 2: end of the day, nobody believes that shit. They say

1356
01:12:40,400 --> 01:12:42,200
Speaker 2: that shit because it sound like the right thing to

1357
01:12:42,240 --> 01:12:45,840
Speaker 2: say in practice every single time, is you sharing too much?

1358
01:12:45,880 --> 01:12:48,040
Speaker 2: You talking too much? Shut the fuck up, go home?

1359
01:12:48,280 --> 01:12:50,719
Speaker 4: Yep. And you see it with with all the post

1360
01:12:50,800 --> 01:12:53,840
Speaker 4: online and things like that, and uh, you know, and

1361
01:12:53,880 --> 01:12:56,000
Speaker 4: then you do have people that actually believe it and

1362
01:12:56,040 --> 01:12:58,360
Speaker 4: actually support it, but those people are drowned out by

1363
01:12:58,400 --> 01:13:00,519
Speaker 4: the loud ass motherfuckers that buy in to the bullshit.

1364
01:13:00,560 --> 01:13:02,040
Speaker 4: Cause there's some people that they're like, no, no, y'all,

1365
01:13:02,080 --> 01:13:05,080
Speaker 4: just s how you learned. They're being an example, you know, y'all,

1366
01:13:05,120 --> 01:13:07,479
Speaker 4: don't y'all, y'all don't have to Palo and just continue

1367
01:13:07,479 --> 01:13:09,519
Speaker 4: to tell everybody to shut the fuck up just because

1368
01:13:09,560 --> 01:13:12,200
Speaker 4: you're broken and there's something wrong with you, or you

1369
01:13:12,240 --> 01:13:14,400
Speaker 4: want to hide who you are, you're angry and mad

1370
01:13:14,439 --> 01:13:16,360
Speaker 4: and upsetting, you don't know how to release these things,

1371
01:13:16,520 --> 01:13:18,479
Speaker 4: or you won't go get the therapy that you need

1372
01:13:18,520 --> 01:13:19,679
Speaker 4: to become a better human being.

1373
01:13:20,080 --> 01:13:22,840
Speaker 2: Yeah. Like the big one for me was jay Z's

1374
01:13:22,840 --> 01:13:26,760
Speaker 2: four forty four and a response to that, I was like, oh, okay, cool,

1375
01:13:26,840 --> 01:13:29,920
Speaker 2: everybody full of shit, Thank you appreciate it. This dude

1376
01:13:30,160 --> 01:13:33,320
Speaker 2: really did something at an age where we were like

1377
01:13:33,680 --> 01:13:36,400
Speaker 2: when people would tell you, like black men just don't change,

1378
01:13:36,400 --> 01:13:38,640
Speaker 2: and they never gonna get it it on. All they

1379
01:13:38,720 --> 01:13:41,320
Speaker 2: do is this, this and this, and this dude completely

1380
01:13:42,280 --> 01:13:45,800
Speaker 2: unveiled this like entire new way of thinking. All this work.

1381
01:13:45,840 --> 01:13:49,080
Speaker 2: He had done, this self examination, the idea of how

1382
01:13:49,200 --> 01:13:52,360
Speaker 2: many like just grappling with the people he had heard,

1383
01:13:52,800 --> 01:13:55,439
Speaker 2: the repercussions of that, how that affected his life, how

1384
01:13:55,479 --> 01:13:58,559
Speaker 2: that affected his mother, how that affected his daughter, how

1385
01:13:58,560 --> 01:14:02,400
Speaker 2: that affected his wife, and every all these motherfuckers that

1386
01:14:02,439 --> 01:14:04,719
Speaker 2: have been claiming this is the way, why don't black

1387
01:14:04,760 --> 01:14:07,240
Speaker 2: men do this were the first people to be like,

1388
01:14:07,280 --> 01:14:10,360
Speaker 2: shut the fuck up. Shut the fuck up. Don't nobody

1389
01:14:10,360 --> 01:14:13,400
Speaker 2: feel sorry for your ass? It did? I have it

1390
01:14:13,479 --> 01:14:14,960
Speaker 2: worse than you, So why the fuck are you even

1391
01:14:15,000 --> 01:14:15,559
Speaker 2: saying anything?

1392
01:14:15,720 --> 01:14:18,200
Speaker 4: Yeah? Why did it take you so long? And everything?

1393
01:14:18,400 --> 01:14:20,719
Speaker 4: Motherfucker you get there when you get there, And.

1394
01:14:20,640 --> 01:14:22,760
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, okay, yeah, niggas gonna go right

1395
01:14:22,800 --> 01:14:24,880
Speaker 2: back to yeah, I got it, my bad shut the

1396
01:14:24,880 --> 01:14:28,320
Speaker 2: fuck up, got it cool? I go back to being

1397
01:14:28,320 --> 01:14:32,360
Speaker 2: a stoic avatar as emotionless rather than this open thing. Now.

1398
01:14:32,400 --> 01:14:35,719
Speaker 2: The thing for me is, of course, I think people

1399
01:14:35,800 --> 01:14:39,400
Speaker 2: like Will Smith jay Z you should for as a

1400
01:14:40,000 --> 01:14:44,320
Speaker 2: black dude. I think people should be inspired by that work.

1401
01:14:44,920 --> 01:14:50,120
Speaker 2: I think people black men specifically should uh take that

1402
01:14:50,320 --> 01:14:53,760
Speaker 2: as a learning lesson and fuck the backlash to them.

1403
01:14:53,840 --> 01:14:55,439
Speaker 2: Fuck them because at the end of the day, it

1404
01:14:55,439 --> 01:14:58,320
Speaker 2: ain't about them people. And if they don't know how

1405
01:14:58,320 --> 01:15:00,600
Speaker 2: to handle it because their own issues and shit that

1406
01:15:00,640 --> 01:15:03,720
Speaker 2: they've had to deal with, and they must see this

1407
01:15:03,760 --> 01:15:07,160
Speaker 2: as a good guy versus bad guy enemything, fuck him.

1408
01:15:07,240 --> 01:15:10,400
Speaker 2: Those people aren't here for you anyway, you know, And

1409
01:15:10,479 --> 01:15:12,920
Speaker 2: so I hope that I love to see Will and

1410
01:15:13,040 --> 01:15:16,599
Speaker 2: Jada's radical honesty, even if it's for sale. I still

1411
01:15:16,680 --> 01:15:18,519
Speaker 2: like to see that shit better than when they were

1412
01:15:18,560 --> 01:15:21,880
Speaker 2: saying nothing. Y'all were making everything up about them and

1413
01:15:21,960 --> 01:15:25,720
Speaker 2: they were just these horrible people that were cheating on

1414
01:15:25,760 --> 01:15:27,320
Speaker 2: each other. And da da da da. I like that

1415
01:15:27,400 --> 01:15:31,559
Speaker 2: he's talking about these things. The articles are framed in

1416
01:15:31,600 --> 01:15:33,040
Speaker 2: such a way that make it seem like he just

1417
01:15:33,080 --> 01:15:35,280
Speaker 2: showed up and started talking this. Nigga has a memoir

1418
01:15:35,360 --> 01:15:38,120
Speaker 2: out right, he's promoting the memoir. People are taking the

1419
01:15:39,280 --> 01:15:42,639
Speaker 2: comments in the interviews and the passages from the memoir

1420
01:15:43,080 --> 01:15:45,800
Speaker 2: and they treat them like news articles, like breaking news.

1421
01:15:45,840 --> 01:15:48,000
Speaker 2: Will Smith ran up him to my house and told

1422
01:15:48,040 --> 01:15:53,439
Speaker 2: me he was jealous of Tupac. You know, so I

1423
01:15:53,520 --> 01:15:55,600
Speaker 2: really appreciate it, but I just think people don't know

1424
01:15:55,640 --> 01:15:59,960
Speaker 2: how to handle honesty or vulnerability from black dudes, especially

1425
01:16:00,000 --> 01:16:04,280
Speaker 2: the straight black dudes. And it's sad. It's really sad

1426
01:16:04,320 --> 01:16:07,280
Speaker 2: because I think that's how far the vitriol has gotten

1427
01:16:08,080 --> 01:16:12,719
Speaker 2: on social media and culturally between us, and I don't

1428
01:16:12,760 --> 01:16:15,720
Speaker 2: know that we'll ever be ready for black dudes to

1429
01:16:15,760 --> 01:16:19,840
Speaker 2: be anything but this tiny box of just super masculine shit.

1430
01:16:20,600 --> 01:16:21,240
Speaker 2: And that's it.

1431
01:16:22,120 --> 01:16:25,679
Speaker 4: Yes, And it was so fucked up, and it goes

1432
01:16:25,720 --> 01:16:28,920
Speaker 4: back to this shit we talked about earlier about you know,

1433
01:16:29,000 --> 01:16:31,400
Speaker 4: the relationship with men and women and all that. You know,

1434
01:16:31,479 --> 01:16:35,960
Speaker 4: it's also where as the community we held accountable because

1435
01:16:36,040 --> 01:16:37,880
Speaker 4: as the community we tell men that that's what you're

1436
01:16:37,920 --> 01:16:40,760
Speaker 4: supposed to be, and then you know, the things that

1437
01:16:40,760 --> 01:16:44,680
Speaker 4: would actually benefit everybody at large, you know, we go

1438
01:16:44,720 --> 01:16:46,760
Speaker 4: don't do that for a shit. You know, how dare

1439
01:16:46,800 --> 01:16:49,200
Speaker 4: you love your kids? How dare you love your mate?

1440
01:16:49,240 --> 01:16:50,960
Speaker 4: How dare you get along with your baby mama? How

1441
01:16:51,000 --> 01:16:52,320
Speaker 4: dare you love your spouse?

1442
01:16:52,680 --> 01:16:53,080
Speaker 2: You know?

1443
01:16:53,320 --> 01:16:56,880
Speaker 4: How dare you you out here crying in public? How

1444
01:16:56,960 --> 01:17:00,280
Speaker 4: dare you show these emotions other than angering that after?

1445
01:17:00,640 --> 01:17:01,840
Speaker 4: How dare you?

1446
01:17:02,320 --> 01:17:05,080
Speaker 2: Yeah? And I think it's bad enough that black men

1447
01:17:05,120 --> 01:17:08,160
Speaker 2: can be complicit in this because of all the patriarchal

1448
01:17:08,200 --> 01:17:12,640
Speaker 2: shit we've passed down, But to see people switch the

1449
01:17:12,720 --> 01:17:15,800
Speaker 2: narrative into like, no, we need this from you, We

1450
01:17:15,840 --> 01:17:18,040
Speaker 2: need you to talk about these things, We need you

1451
01:17:18,080 --> 01:17:21,040
Speaker 2: to reckon with what you've said and done, and then

1452
01:17:21,160 --> 01:17:24,280
Speaker 2: be like you bitch, I can't believe you shared that.

1453
01:17:24,520 --> 01:17:26,960
Speaker 2: You sound like a whole bitch. Right now, It's like, oh,

1454
01:17:27,439 --> 01:17:29,960
Speaker 2: but you just said not that way, But what the

1455
01:17:29,960 --> 01:17:30,880
Speaker 2: fuck is the right way?

1456
01:17:31,200 --> 01:17:32,320
Speaker 4: Right? What is the right way?

1457
01:17:32,720 --> 01:17:36,040
Speaker 2: Like it's still got to be about me, you know.

1458
01:17:36,080 --> 01:17:39,160
Speaker 2: I remember that being a complain about tianhanse Coast book

1459
01:17:39,240 --> 01:17:42,400
Speaker 2: to his son and people be like, where's the woman

1460
01:17:42,680 --> 01:17:45,280
Speaker 2: point of view? It's like, nigga, I'm a dude. If

1461
01:17:45,360 --> 01:17:47,080
Speaker 2: I wrote the woman point of view, I literally just

1462
01:17:47,120 --> 01:17:50,200
Speaker 2: be stealing some black women's work. So I can either

1463
01:17:50,280 --> 01:17:54,519
Speaker 2: tell y'all that this is how my experience has been

1464
01:17:54,520 --> 01:17:57,080
Speaker 2: in life, this is how it's interacted with black women.

1465
01:17:57,320 --> 01:17:59,000
Speaker 3: But I can never be a black woman.

1466
01:17:59,080 --> 01:18:01,840
Speaker 2: I can never write this is the black woman's story,

1467
01:18:01,840 --> 01:18:03,880
Speaker 2: because a black woman will have to write the black

1468
01:18:03,880 --> 01:18:07,320
Speaker 2: women's story, probably multiple black women, but it can't be

1469
01:18:07,479 --> 01:18:10,200
Speaker 2: me because that's just not fucking right. And that was

1470
01:18:10,240 --> 01:18:12,320
Speaker 2: the critique of that dude, and I was like, oh,

1471
01:18:12,400 --> 01:18:15,320
Speaker 2: y'all are just insane, Like this is just y'all. Don't

1472
01:18:15,360 --> 01:18:18,600
Speaker 2: y'all have an issue with this dude getting some spotlight

1473
01:18:18,720 --> 01:18:20,960
Speaker 2: and you can't find an angle to make him a

1474
01:18:21,000 --> 01:18:23,360
Speaker 2: bad guy except for but he ain't a black woman.

1475
01:18:23,720 --> 01:18:25,639
Speaker 2: That's not that doesn't make sense.

1476
01:18:26,000 --> 01:18:27,160
Speaker 4: Come on, because.

1477
01:18:27,000 --> 01:18:30,120
Speaker 2: Anybody that would try to speak for black women that's

1478
01:18:30,160 --> 01:18:33,000
Speaker 2: not a black woman, it's gonna quickly find the fuck

1479
01:18:33,000 --> 01:18:35,679
Speaker 2: out You shouldn't have did that. You know what I mean,

1480
01:18:35,800 --> 01:18:38,840
Speaker 2: You're gonna quickly get discovered as like, who the fuck

1481
01:18:38,920 --> 01:18:40,479
Speaker 2: you think you're talking for us? So you got to

1482
01:18:40,479 --> 01:18:42,840
Speaker 2: shut the fuck up when it comes to that. But yeah,

1483
01:18:43,080 --> 01:18:44,920
Speaker 2: I just think some of this is that, you know,

1484
01:18:44,960 --> 01:18:48,600
Speaker 2: that jealousy, that whatever. But yeah, it's just interesting to

1485
01:18:48,600 --> 01:18:51,639
Speaker 2: watch it. And like I said, men are not It's

1486
01:18:51,640 --> 01:18:53,880
Speaker 2: not like the men are fucking like heroes in this.

1487
01:18:54,240 --> 01:19:01,759
Speaker 2: The men are fucking just as much complicit, if not condition.

1488
01:19:02,000 --> 01:19:03,760
Speaker 2: The difference is the men won't even act like they

1489
01:19:03,760 --> 01:19:04,160
Speaker 2: want that.

1490
01:19:04,120 --> 01:19:06,760
Speaker 3: Shit, and a lot of them do.

1491
01:19:06,840 --> 01:19:08,880
Speaker 4: And you know that's try to be funny.

1492
01:19:08,600 --> 01:19:10,400
Speaker 2: Whether they do or not, that's what I'm saying. Okay,

1493
01:19:10,400 --> 01:19:12,920
Speaker 2: they will openly be like, shut the fuck up, don't

1494
01:19:12,920 --> 01:19:15,000
Speaker 2: be sharing your emotions. Yeah, Rick, but a lot of

1495
01:19:15,000 --> 01:19:17,200
Speaker 2: people do the opposite. You need to share your emotions,

1496
01:19:17,200 --> 01:19:19,519
Speaker 2: oh you bitch right right.

1497
01:19:19,560 --> 01:19:23,880
Speaker 4: So it's a lose lose situation. And sometimes I think

1498
01:19:23,960 --> 01:19:26,760
Speaker 4: that you know, men that are open and honest and

1499
01:19:26,840 --> 01:19:30,160
Speaker 4: have all these feelings and you know, not afraid to

1500
01:19:30,160 --> 01:19:32,320
Speaker 4: be vulnerable and be like, well it is what it

1501
01:19:32,400 --> 01:19:34,920
Speaker 4: is on these things and know, y'all niggas is wrong

1502
01:19:35,120 --> 01:19:37,120
Speaker 4: you know, and all this stuff, went through therapy, do

1503
01:19:37,160 --> 01:19:39,120
Speaker 4: all the things that they tell us to do. A

1504
01:19:39,120 --> 01:19:42,920
Speaker 4: lot of times, a lot of people have jealousy towards

1505
01:19:42,920 --> 01:19:44,880
Speaker 4: those men because they have a freedom that they will

1506
01:19:44,920 --> 01:19:47,559
Speaker 4: never have because they're not Because a lot of people

1507
01:19:47,680 --> 01:19:50,519
Speaker 4: don't want to be ostracized. A lot of people love

1508
01:19:50,600 --> 01:19:52,400
Speaker 4: the community and they want to be a part of

1509
01:19:52,439 --> 01:19:54,880
Speaker 4: the of a community, no matter how toxic it is,

1510
01:19:55,040 --> 01:19:57,519
Speaker 4: no matter how much it kills their soul, no matter

1511
01:19:57,520 --> 01:20:00,120
Speaker 4: how much they're not being themselves, no matter how now

1512
01:20:00,520 --> 01:20:03,400
Speaker 4: not freeing it is as far as their concern, I

1513
01:20:03,560 --> 01:20:06,160
Speaker 4: rather be locked up in this cage, then outset of

1514
01:20:06,200 --> 01:20:09,320
Speaker 4: this cage actually being free, and anybody that gets out,

1515
01:20:09,880 --> 01:20:12,240
Speaker 4: I turn around and I am angry at them because

1516
01:20:12,280 --> 01:20:14,080
Speaker 4: they have a freedom that I will never have in

1517
01:20:14,080 --> 01:20:14,719
Speaker 4: my lifetime.

1518
01:20:15,200 --> 01:20:15,479
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1519
01:20:15,720 --> 01:20:18,240
Speaker 3: I think that's a huge part of it. So Yeah,

1520
01:20:18,680 --> 01:20:19,320
Speaker 3: like I said, I don't.

1521
01:20:20,040 --> 01:20:23,120
Speaker 2: I just find it interesting because things work in theory,

1522
01:20:23,120 --> 01:20:24,600
Speaker 2: but then you put them the practice and then we

1523
01:20:25,040 --> 01:20:27,519
Speaker 2: hit these roadblocks, and I'm like, oh, that's right. A

1524
01:20:27,520 --> 01:20:30,160
Speaker 2: lot of this social media shit is a theoretical place.

1525
01:20:30,240 --> 01:20:33,080
Speaker 2: A lot of shit plays on social media until you

1526
01:20:33,200 --> 01:20:37,240
Speaker 2: do it, and then it's like, no, you know, it's

1527
01:20:37,520 --> 01:20:42,439
Speaker 2: people like listen, radical, we need body inclusivity. We need

1528
01:20:42,680 --> 01:20:46,000
Speaker 2: this inclusivity. Then so on supposed to no makeup fucking

1529
01:20:46,120 --> 01:20:48,479
Speaker 2: selfie or some shit or like not crop photo, and

1530
01:20:48,479 --> 01:20:51,160
Speaker 2: then it's like, look at this fat, ugly motherfucker. You're

1531
01:20:51,200 --> 01:20:54,720
Speaker 2: like Jesus, you just said so. I think that's where

1532
01:20:54,720 --> 01:20:56,680
Speaker 2: a lot of the conflict comes. We're not ready for

1533
01:20:56,720 --> 01:20:59,320
Speaker 2: this shit yet. But I think it gives me hope

1534
01:20:59,320 --> 01:21:03,800
Speaker 2: because I think people like Will Jay, you know, even

1535
01:21:03,880 --> 01:21:06,680
Speaker 2: Chris Rock lately, some of these black dudes who are

1536
01:21:06,720 --> 01:21:10,760
Speaker 2: openly talking about this shit will be the people that

1537
01:21:10,840 --> 01:21:14,400
Speaker 2: take the punch, but they'll I think the changes that

1538
01:21:14,479 --> 01:21:20,519
Speaker 2: come from this and the destigmatization of these concepts will

1539
01:21:20,760 --> 01:21:24,400
Speaker 2: ultimately benefit people. But it's gonna take a much longer

1540
01:21:24,439 --> 01:21:28,559
Speaker 2: time than people expect because the people have seen me expect,

1541
01:21:29,000 --> 01:21:32,559
Speaker 2: because motherfuckers ain't really ready for that. It's like when

1542
01:21:32,640 --> 01:21:35,519
Speaker 2: you ask for an apology, but you're not ready to forgive, right.

1543
01:21:35,760 --> 01:21:37,960
Speaker 2: That's how it feels, where it's like, don't even ask

1544
01:21:38,000 --> 01:21:40,800
Speaker 2: for the apology then, because you because I would never

1545
01:21:40,840 --> 01:21:43,439
Speaker 2: ask for an apology, I wouldn't accept you. See what

1546
01:21:43,479 --> 01:21:45,360
Speaker 2: I'm saying I have to be in a place where

1547
01:21:45,439 --> 01:21:47,880
Speaker 2: I would accept it and not a place where I

1548
01:21:47,880 --> 01:21:51,200
Speaker 2: still want to use. The apology is more punishment. You

1549
01:21:51,240 --> 01:21:56,519
Speaker 2: didn't say, you didn't say the you said. I like,

1550
01:21:56,840 --> 01:22:00,680
Speaker 2: then I'm not ready. So that's how it feels. But yeah, man,

1551
01:22:02,200 --> 01:22:04,200
Speaker 2: that was random bouto Will and Jada. But I'm glad

1552
01:22:04,240 --> 01:22:07,400
Speaker 2: I got to talk about it. And for the record,

1553
01:22:07,439 --> 01:22:10,799
Speaker 2: I don't think it's better. I don't think it's good

1554
01:22:11,000 --> 01:22:14,240
Speaker 2: the way people treat Jada or Gabrielle Union or any

1555
01:22:14,280 --> 01:22:17,240
Speaker 2: of these other women who've been radically honest about their

1556
01:22:17,280 --> 01:22:21,360
Speaker 2: experience and it hadn't been, you know, all all good.

1557
01:22:21,439 --> 01:22:23,400
Speaker 2: You know, but this is a lot of stuff we

1558
01:22:23,479 --> 01:22:27,800
Speaker 2: need to work on personally in ourselves because we're so

1559
01:22:28,000 --> 01:22:31,479
Speaker 2: conditioned to this fake ass social media versions of ourselves

1560
01:22:31,520 --> 01:22:35,720
Speaker 2: where everything's perfect and we only share wins. We need

1561
01:22:35,760 --> 01:22:38,160
Speaker 2: to be like, we need to treat this shit like

1562
01:22:38,240 --> 01:22:42,600
Speaker 2: some real honesty, like some real people. I was on Instagram.

1563
01:22:42,640 --> 01:22:44,880
Speaker 2: I was following somebody that, you know, they were posting

1564
01:22:44,920 --> 01:22:48,160
Speaker 2: all these pictures of them like at the beach, working now,

1565
01:22:49,720 --> 01:22:52,759
Speaker 2: eating fancy dinners, having a good time, doing all this stuff.

1566
01:22:52,800 --> 01:22:55,640
Speaker 2: It's like, all these pictures and all this stuff, and

1567
01:22:55,680 --> 01:22:57,439
Speaker 2: then one of the post was like, just got out

1568
01:22:57,479 --> 01:22:59,559
Speaker 2: the hospital, y'all you know doing it? And I'll say,

1569
01:23:01,000 --> 01:23:04,120
Speaker 2: I'm like scrolling back, like when you talking about being sick,

1570
01:23:04,120 --> 01:23:05,640
Speaker 2: when you talking about being in the hospital, when you

1571
01:23:05,720 --> 01:23:08,439
Speaker 2: talking about why you're in the hospital, It is it COVID,

1572
01:23:08,479 --> 01:23:12,280
Speaker 2: this is this is coronavirus pandemic. You know, you posted

1573
01:23:12,280 --> 01:23:14,160
Speaker 2: a lot of pictures with no mask on out of

1574
01:23:14,240 --> 01:23:17,760
Speaker 2: events and doing shit. Are are you okay? You know?

1575
01:23:18,000 --> 01:23:21,640
Speaker 3: Like and it's like, oh, because we don't share.

1576
01:23:21,520 --> 01:23:26,439
Speaker 2: The ls right, And a lot of us are programmed

1577
01:23:26,479 --> 01:23:32,160
Speaker 2: to think people sharing difficulty adversity, whether they've overcome it

1578
01:23:32,320 --> 01:23:35,640
Speaker 2: or whether they haven't yet. We are not used to that.

1579
01:23:35,760 --> 01:23:38,760
Speaker 2: We see that as weakness and it needs to go

1580
01:23:38,880 --> 01:23:42,000
Speaker 2: because it's not part of the good narrative. And I

1581
01:23:42,040 --> 01:23:48,320
Speaker 2: don't need to know that your future, your husband. I

1582
01:23:48,320 --> 01:23:51,200
Speaker 2: don't need to know that y'all struggled. I don't need

1583
01:23:51,240 --> 01:23:54,200
Speaker 2: to know that y'all has some issues with infidelity or arguments,

1584
01:23:54,280 --> 01:23:56,600
Speaker 2: or that y'all have an open relationship that is not

1585
01:23:56,680 --> 01:23:58,880
Speaker 2: the picture perfect thing I was taught in school, and

1586
01:23:58,920 --> 01:24:01,200
Speaker 2: I don't want to see it right, you know, And

1587
01:24:01,720 --> 01:24:04,320
Speaker 2: even if even for people that are like pro like

1588
01:24:04,680 --> 01:24:07,479
Speaker 2: I'm into poly relationships. I'm in the open relationships even

1589
01:24:07,560 --> 01:24:10,920
Speaker 2: then go well, not if y'all gonna avoid I'm just

1590
01:24:10,960 --> 01:24:13,080
Speaker 2: saying this shit to say is this is the perfect solution,

1591
01:24:13,640 --> 01:24:16,000
Speaker 2: and you're showing that there can still be pitfalls. You

1592
01:24:16,080 --> 01:24:21,960
Speaker 2: gotta go. You ain't perfect. That's why. All right, So

1593
01:24:22,000 --> 01:24:24,759
Speaker 2: the poe was, will Travis Scott go to jail because

1594
01:24:24,880 --> 01:24:28,880
Speaker 2: of the Astra world deaths? Yes or no? No, Karen

1595
01:24:28,920 --> 01:24:32,679
Speaker 2: says no. Ninety six point three of y'all. For ninety

1596
01:24:32,680 --> 01:24:33,920
Speaker 2: six point three percent of y'all.

1597
01:24:33,800 --> 01:24:37,920
Speaker 4: Say, now, there'll be some from a punishment, There'll be some, Yeah,

1598
01:24:37,960 --> 01:24:40,559
Speaker 4: I agree, financial, but him going to jail now.

1599
01:24:40,760 --> 01:24:44,720
Speaker 2: Four percent say yes. By the way, Capita Donna says yeah.

1600
01:24:44,920 --> 01:24:47,559
Speaker 2: Musicians typically work through torn Venia specifically, so they're not

1601
01:24:47,560 --> 01:24:50,519
Speaker 2: worrying about the logistics of concerts and lawsuits. Jay Z's

1602
01:24:50,560 --> 01:24:52,800
Speaker 2: and Beyonce's pockets will get hit as part owners of

1603
01:24:52,840 --> 01:24:55,240
Speaker 2: Live Nation before the cops can take can come for

1604
01:24:55,360 --> 01:24:59,320
Speaker 2: Travis Scott or Drake Joe says Trump hasn't seen jail

1605
01:24:59,360 --> 01:25:01,639
Speaker 2: time for insite January sixth. Travis should be fine.

1606
01:25:01,680 --> 01:25:04,600
Speaker 3: Plus he got them Kardashian Jenna connections.

1607
01:25:05,320 --> 01:25:08,160
Speaker 2: Well, I mean that might have worked with Trump, you know,

1608
01:25:08,640 --> 01:25:11,800
Speaker 2: get him to come up there and you know, and

1609
01:25:12,800 --> 01:25:15,040
Speaker 2: get this dude to sign some shit. But uh yeah,

1610
01:25:15,080 --> 01:25:18,080
Speaker 2: I'll hear what you're saying. I don't think I think

1611
01:25:18,120 --> 01:25:21,320
Speaker 2: Trump is you know, white, so that might be part

1612
01:25:21,360 --> 01:25:23,800
Speaker 2: of it. But I also don't expect just gotta go jail.

1613
01:25:23,800 --> 01:25:26,120
Speaker 2: Shay says he ain't going to jail. First of all,

1614
01:25:26,160 --> 01:25:30,360
Speaker 2: white people love him, probably more than they love Wayne Brady. Second, wow,

1615
01:25:30,560 --> 01:25:33,519
Speaker 2: why Wayne gotta catch shots? Second, there's no way to

1616
01:25:33,600 --> 01:25:36,599
Speaker 2: take him to court without these concert company security vendors

1617
01:25:36,640 --> 01:25:38,840
Speaker 2: and all being dragged into court with him and having

1618
01:25:38,880 --> 01:25:41,599
Speaker 2: all their company records gone over like a fine tooth code.

1619
01:25:42,360 --> 01:25:44,439
Speaker 2: They not trying to go through all that. They're paying

1620
01:25:44,479 --> 01:25:47,559
Speaker 2: these folks off and never speak of it again. Yeah,

1621
01:25:47,560 --> 01:25:51,439
Speaker 2: And I also keep wondering, like what are they gonna

1622
01:25:51,479 --> 01:25:52,400
Speaker 2: Are people gonna.

1623
01:25:52,240 --> 01:25:55,920
Speaker 3: Prove that they took shortcuts.

1624
01:25:55,439 --> 01:25:58,320
Speaker 2: On the hiring of security and stuff, or are people

1625
01:25:58,400 --> 01:26:04,639
Speaker 2: gonna or or like cause there was a labor shortage,

1626
01:26:04,720 --> 01:26:06,800
Speaker 2: it wasn't effected because of the labor shortage where they

1627
01:26:06,920 --> 01:26:10,760
Speaker 2: going cheap and underpaying people. Was it just not organized,

1628
01:26:10,800 --> 01:26:13,160
Speaker 2: and I think these are questions that are very relevant

1629
01:26:13,640 --> 01:26:17,880
Speaker 2: to any criminal proceeding, and I'm okay wait until those

1630
01:26:17,920 --> 01:26:21,240
Speaker 2: are answered. Same, you know. So I just had a

1631
01:26:21,280 --> 01:26:24,240
Speaker 2: lot of questions, and I, you know, didn't mean to

1632
01:26:24,320 --> 01:26:26,880
Speaker 2: let everybody down or let anybody down by not, you know,

1633
01:26:26,960 --> 01:26:29,200
Speaker 2: coming down here and going full off on them. But

1634
01:26:29,400 --> 01:26:33,040
Speaker 2: I can wait. The poll, what do you user? I'm sorry?

1635
01:26:33,120 --> 01:26:36,240
Speaker 2: Next episode was two four or five for oh wait,

1636
01:26:36,320 --> 01:26:38,080
Speaker 2: I didn't do the poll on anchor, Sorry to poll

1637
01:26:38,120 --> 01:26:40,880
Speaker 2: on anchor, Sorry about that poll on anchor. Well, Travis

1638
01:26:40,960 --> 01:26:43,160
Speaker 2: gotta go to jail because of Astro World. Just ninety

1639
01:26:43,160 --> 01:26:46,960
Speaker 2: four percent, no, six percent yes, so still about the same.

1640
01:26:47,880 --> 01:26:52,320
Speaker 2: And the Q and A was don't forget to follow

1641
01:26:52,360 --> 01:26:56,439
Speaker 2: our other podcast, this too much of Sarah Spoonful said,

1642
01:26:56,600 --> 01:26:58,920
Speaker 2: already done. I don't watch either show anymore. I just

1643
01:26:58,960 --> 01:27:04,000
Speaker 2: like hearing y'all talk about that is the secret. Oh

1644
01:27:04,080 --> 01:27:07,280
Speaker 2: heavens Kevin says, done and done. I always enjoy your recast,

1645
01:27:07,320 --> 01:27:09,439
Speaker 2: to be honest, I even listen to a few of

1646
01:27:09,479 --> 01:27:11,280
Speaker 2: the Walking Dead ones, even though I haven't watched the

1647
01:27:11,280 --> 01:27:14,680
Speaker 2: show since season three. Y'all just make everything fun. Thank you.

1648
01:27:15,920 --> 01:27:20,120
Speaker 2: Toy says done. I love this too much. Chack o'bean says,

1649
01:27:20,160 --> 01:27:22,240
Speaker 2: definitely doing that. Some of my theories about the theme

1650
01:27:22,280 --> 01:27:25,679
Speaker 2: of this season is aligning with yours. It's really Bossy

1651
01:27:25,800 --> 01:27:29,000
Speaker 2: that's got the theme. Oh wait, I did have some

1652
01:27:29,080 --> 01:27:31,160
Speaker 2: type of thing. I don't forgot what my theme was.

1653
01:27:31,200 --> 01:27:34,160
Speaker 2: I know hers is death. Hers is death, and I

1654
01:27:34,360 --> 01:27:37,920
Speaker 2: keep I forgot what mine was. It was good too.

1655
01:27:39,320 --> 01:27:41,760
Speaker 2: Fuck I'll remember by the time I watched the shit

1656
01:27:41,840 --> 01:27:45,519
Speaker 2: next time if my theme keep going. But yeah, I mean,

1657
01:27:45,800 --> 01:27:48,520
Speaker 2: she ain't wrong. There's been some death shit in every episode.

1658
01:27:49,240 --> 01:27:54,280
Speaker 2: Uh uh, Siatria says, I already do. I just love

1659
01:27:54,360 --> 01:27:56,960
Speaker 2: BOSSI and I too. Miss Karen's laughed off Mike this week.

1660
01:27:58,800 --> 01:28:01,320
Speaker 2: Katie says, being done. Check Mark. As soon as I

1661
01:28:01,320 --> 01:28:03,479
Speaker 2: saw the news in your timeline, I did what needed

1662
01:28:03,520 --> 01:28:06,479
Speaker 2: to be done. Thank you. Aaron says, oh yes, I do,

1663
01:28:06,880 --> 01:28:09,280
Speaker 2: and Linda says, you didn't have to tell me. I'm

1664
01:28:09,320 --> 01:28:12,400
Speaker 2: already following the best insecure recap duo in the game

1665
01:28:12,520 --> 01:28:16,640
Speaker 2: hashtag team Lisa. Thank you, Thank you all right. So,

1666
01:28:16,760 --> 01:28:21,040
Speaker 2: Coveing Season is the last episode of the week two

1667
01:28:21,360 --> 01:28:24,320
Speaker 2: four forty five. You know, I can't speak for y'all,

1668
01:28:24,320 --> 01:28:27,080
Speaker 2: but I'm enjoying these two episode weeks. I don't know,

1669
01:28:27,160 --> 01:28:31,160
Speaker 2: if you know, maybe the audience may feel differently. Maybe

1670
01:28:31,200 --> 01:28:35,080
Speaker 2: we'll go back eventually, but I've kind of been enjoying

1671
01:28:35,320 --> 01:28:39,519
Speaker 2: the two episodes. I feel like we even get better

1672
01:28:39,640 --> 01:28:42,840
Speaker 2: quality feedback and stuff from it, you know, and we

1673
01:28:42,880 --> 01:28:46,880
Speaker 2: don't cover as much shit. But I don't know, I'm

1674
01:28:46,960 --> 01:28:49,800
Speaker 2: enjoying him. Ev says meat as expensive as fucking I

1675
01:28:49,800 --> 01:28:51,280
Speaker 2: love beef. But on the bright side, a lot of

1676
01:28:51,280 --> 01:28:53,120
Speaker 2: people aren't buying as much meat. So I figured out

1677
01:28:53,200 --> 01:28:55,160
Speaker 2: the grocery store. When the grocery store puts the meat

1678
01:28:55,160 --> 01:28:57,400
Speaker 2: on sale before it goes bad, that's when I buy it.

1679
01:28:57,400 --> 01:29:00,000
Speaker 2: I have no shame. As long as you go home

1680
01:29:00,080 --> 01:29:03,800
Speaker 2: cooking right away, you freeze, it should be good. You

1681
01:29:03,840 --> 01:29:06,559
Speaker 2: know this. Uh, take care of you stuff.

1682
01:29:06,600 --> 01:29:10,160
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying right Uh.

1683
01:29:10,280 --> 01:29:14,720
Speaker 2: Also, the poll was what do you use your dishwasher for.

1684
01:29:16,560 --> 01:29:17,480
Speaker 4: Water dishes?

1685
01:29:17,880 --> 01:29:20,720
Speaker 2: Well, we talked about it on the show. Here are

1686
01:29:20,720 --> 01:29:24,400
Speaker 2: your options. Uh, what do you use a dishwasher for

1687
01:29:27,360 --> 01:29:31,599
Speaker 2: washing dishes? Storing dishes? I don't have a dishwasher other

1688
01:29:32,520 --> 01:29:40,639
Speaker 2: cleaning sex toys, nothing or storing kitchen itols. Let's see

1689
01:29:41,320 --> 01:29:47,960
Speaker 2: fifty people this is kind of low. Who's having just

1690
01:29:48,040 --> 01:29:49,120
Speaker 2: the highest percentage? Fifty?

1691
01:29:49,840 --> 01:29:52,479
Speaker 4: Oh no, what's y'all doing? St sex stores? The hell

1692
01:29:52,520 --> 01:29:52,840
Speaker 4: is this?

1693
01:29:53,160 --> 01:29:55,719
Speaker 2: Fifty percent of people wash dishes.

1694
01:29:56,920 --> 01:29:59,280
Speaker 4: This is a fucking it's called a dishwasher.

1695
01:30:00,040 --> 01:30:01,639
Speaker 2: It was low right.

1696
01:30:01,760 --> 01:30:04,720
Speaker 4: Let the bitch wash dishes. Is a dish washer, Let that.

1697
01:30:04,800 --> 01:30:09,559
Speaker 2: Bitch wash dishes. Let that bitch read all right?

1698
01:30:09,640 --> 01:30:11,640
Speaker 4: So that's what the name tag says.

1699
01:30:12,320 --> 01:30:17,439
Speaker 2: Seventeen percent use it to just store dishes. They must

1700
01:30:17,439 --> 01:30:18,639
Speaker 2: live in New York. I don't know.

1701
01:30:18,720 --> 01:30:20,400
Speaker 4: I just put it in that what you got your

1702
01:30:20,560 --> 01:30:22,439
Speaker 4: you make your kids washing them and then just put

1703
01:30:22,479 --> 01:30:23,519
Speaker 4: them in at the dry well.

1704
01:30:23,520 --> 01:30:25,880
Speaker 2: Remember that was in that other poll where people were

1705
01:30:26,160 --> 01:30:28,600
Speaker 2: washing their dishes by hands and then putting them in

1706
01:30:28,640 --> 01:30:32,720
Speaker 2: the dishwashing the heat. Maybe I didn't even say if

1707
01:30:32,720 --> 01:30:34,920
Speaker 2: they turn on the heat or not all that. I

1708
01:30:34,920 --> 01:30:36,320
Speaker 2: don't even know if you can run a cycle of

1709
01:30:36,400 --> 01:30:39,000
Speaker 2: only heat. I've never tried it. I washed dishes with it.

1710
01:30:40,680 --> 01:30:41,400
Speaker 4: I made no sense.

1711
01:30:41,520 --> 01:30:43,280
Speaker 2: Seventeen percent also don't have.

1712
01:30:43,200 --> 01:30:45,200
Speaker 4: A dish washer, Okay, I can see that.

1713
01:30:45,439 --> 01:30:48,519
Speaker 2: And fifteen percent are in the category I call the

1714
01:30:48,600 --> 01:30:52,720
Speaker 2: nick ju category. What's that they have a dishwasher? They

1715
01:30:52,760 --> 01:30:57,240
Speaker 2: don't use it for nothing, I've discovered, but they look

1716
01:30:57,280 --> 01:30:59,720
Speaker 2: at it. I was listening to what's the tea was

1717
01:31:00,560 --> 01:31:03,479
Speaker 2: from like last week or something, and I discovered nick

1718
01:31:03,520 --> 01:31:06,439
Speaker 2: jews on these people. She does not she got a dishwasher,

1719
01:31:06,479 --> 01:31:08,680
Speaker 2: she said she don't use the power went out to it.

1720
01:31:08,760 --> 01:31:10,000
Speaker 2: She was like, it's fine, I don't use it.

1721
01:31:10,000 --> 01:31:12,200
Speaker 4: I was like, what.

1722
01:31:14,160 --> 01:31:16,479
Speaker 3: So, I don't know, man, I wonder why people don't

1723
01:31:16,600 --> 01:31:17,720
Speaker 3: use this intimidating them.

1724
01:31:17,760 --> 01:31:20,759
Speaker 4: Something called me a slave owner, because bitch, you're gonna

1725
01:31:20,760 --> 01:31:22,840
Speaker 4: wash dishes. That's your motherfucking name. This is what you're

1726
01:31:22,840 --> 01:31:24,519
Speaker 4: supposed to do washing them. Got damn dishes.

1727
01:31:24,720 --> 01:31:26,720
Speaker 2: I guess it's like hitting your kids. Just two types

1728
01:31:26,760 --> 01:31:28,240
Speaker 2: of people. There's the people that get hit and they

1729
01:31:28,360 --> 01:31:30,800
Speaker 2: be like, I'm gonna hit my kids when I get

1730
01:31:30,880 --> 01:31:32,920
Speaker 2: to be a parent. And then there's the people that go,

1731
01:31:33,160 --> 01:31:33,799
Speaker 2: I'm never.

1732
01:31:33,680 --> 01:31:36,480
Speaker 3: Hitting my kids. Maybe that's what it was the dishwasher.

1733
01:31:36,520 --> 01:31:39,600
Speaker 2: It was a lot of like, my parents never use it,

1734
01:31:39,720 --> 01:31:41,479
Speaker 2: I'm never gonna use it. And then there was a

1735
01:31:41,479 --> 01:31:44,439
Speaker 2: lot of my parents like me, my parents never use it.

1736
01:31:44,439 --> 01:31:46,639
Speaker 2: In god damn it, I'm using the first chance I get.

1737
01:31:47,240 --> 01:31:50,720
Speaker 4: That was me, though, you a dishwasher bitch is a

1738
01:31:50,800 --> 01:31:54,479
Speaker 4: diswa washer in here. No, I was one of them

1739
01:31:54,560 --> 01:31:57,080
Speaker 4: kids that said, fuck that, I'll pick it up. If

1740
01:31:57,080 --> 01:31:59,559
Speaker 4: it's a mudge on it, I'll put that bitch in

1741
01:31:59,560 --> 01:32:00,000
Speaker 4: their gear.

1742
01:32:01,479 --> 01:32:04,360
Speaker 2: Now, the rest of the categories got zero percent, So

1743
01:32:04,600 --> 01:32:09,960
Speaker 2: zero say other zero say cleaning sex toys and zero

1744
01:32:10,080 --> 01:32:13,400
Speaker 2: say storing kitchen items. Now I will say though I

1745
01:32:13,520 --> 01:32:16,360
Speaker 2: never cleaned a sex toy, but I have a couple

1746
01:32:16,400 --> 01:32:19,920
Speaker 2: of times ranching in the dishwasher that wasn't exactly dishes,

1747
01:32:19,960 --> 01:32:22,559
Speaker 2: Like I have a towel, I have a towel holder.

1748
01:32:23,200 --> 01:32:28,440
Speaker 2: I've run my toothpaste organizer like where I have toothpaste

1749
01:32:28,479 --> 01:32:31,240
Speaker 2: and toothbrushes in it. I've run that ship to that

1750
01:32:31,640 --> 01:32:35,760
Speaker 2: because I'm like, it's not a lot of stuff, but

1751
01:32:35,880 --> 01:32:39,880
Speaker 2: I have. I had a kind of thing that was

1752
01:32:39,880 --> 01:32:42,840
Speaker 2: like an incense holder, and I need to clean it

1753
01:32:42,840 --> 01:32:44,800
Speaker 2: out and it's kind of hard to clean, so I

1754
01:32:44,920 --> 01:32:47,320
Speaker 2: just put it in the dishwasher by itself one time.

1755
01:32:49,040 --> 01:32:52,000
Speaker 2: But I also look up dishwasher maintenance and stuff and

1756
01:32:52,040 --> 01:32:54,160
Speaker 2: cleaning like on YouTube and found out a lot of

1757
01:32:54,160 --> 01:32:58,040
Speaker 2: stuff I didn't know, like running vinegar through it every

1758
01:32:58,080 --> 01:33:00,799
Speaker 2: once in a while helps and get out the trap

1759
01:33:00,880 --> 01:33:04,400
Speaker 2: there's a trap at the bottom I never knew about. So,

1760
01:33:05,040 --> 01:33:07,479
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm believe in my dishwasher, but I'm gonna

1761
01:33:07,479 --> 01:33:08,160
Speaker 2: help it.

1762
01:33:08,600 --> 01:33:12,000
Speaker 4: We're gonna help you get along because Sonny's standing there

1763
01:33:12,120 --> 01:33:15,559
Speaker 4: gazing over with the subs and ship. Now, there are

1764
01:33:15,640 --> 01:33:19,000
Speaker 4: very few things that I will wash hand wash, and

1765
01:33:19,000 --> 01:33:21,320
Speaker 4: it's probably because they don't fit in the dish washing,

1766
01:33:22,640 --> 01:33:26,000
Speaker 4: like that piece of thing or either when I clean

1767
01:33:26,080 --> 01:33:28,280
Speaker 4: that the refrigerator. You know, you gotta clean them shells out.

1768
01:33:28,320 --> 01:33:29,840
Speaker 4: Them shells don't fit in the dish washer.

1769
01:33:30,400 --> 01:33:33,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, hit that YouTube tutorial. Y'all, y'all better

1770
01:33:33,680 --> 01:33:34,639
Speaker 2: use our dish washer.

1771
01:33:36,000 --> 01:33:40,080
Speaker 4: Any waste What the fuck that? It ain't gonna matter.

1772
01:33:40,240 --> 01:33:43,280
Speaker 2: It actually doesn't waste water. It actually is takes less

1773
01:33:43,320 --> 01:33:46,280
Speaker 2: water to use the dishwasher than the runner cycle. Then

1774
01:33:46,320 --> 01:33:48,799
Speaker 2: the wash dishes by hand. That's so that's not true.

1775
01:33:49,439 --> 01:33:52,600
Speaker 2: You save water when you run dishes in the dishwasher.

1776
01:33:52,680 --> 01:33:55,360
Speaker 2: I don't know what the fuck people talking about anyway.

1777
01:33:55,080 --> 01:33:59,080
Speaker 4: Old black myths, because that's what that's what my mom

1778
01:33:59,080 --> 01:33:59,719
Speaker 4: and I'm telling.

1779
01:33:59,560 --> 01:34:02,479
Speaker 2: You waste just things. I almost told us to make

1780
01:34:02,560 --> 01:34:05,080
Speaker 2: us wash them dishes. Dre says, I heard that some

1781
01:34:05,160 --> 01:34:07,280
Speaker 2: black folks who have dishwatchers don't use them. I don't

1782
01:34:07,280 --> 01:34:09,400
Speaker 2: really get it. I grew up in a black household

1783
01:34:09,400 --> 01:34:12,280
Speaker 2: where I was the designated dishwatcher, so now it's rare

1784
01:34:12,320 --> 01:34:15,120
Speaker 2: for my grown ass to wash the dish by hand. Yeah,

1785
01:34:15,120 --> 01:34:17,240
Speaker 2: it's really a defeat moment when I'm be like, I

1786
01:34:17,240 --> 01:34:19,720
Speaker 2: gotta wash this shit.

1787
01:34:19,120 --> 01:34:21,320
Speaker 4: And if it's and if it's sudden, I let it

1788
01:34:21,400 --> 01:34:24,439
Speaker 4: sit there under the hot water while the kind of

1789
01:34:24,439 --> 01:34:26,559
Speaker 4: get the gunk up and then do it later on.

1790
01:34:26,840 --> 01:34:30,040
Speaker 4: Like no, no, I am a no effort person. I

1791
01:34:30,040 --> 01:34:32,920
Speaker 4: didn't get these pretty cotton soft hands because I wanted

1792
01:34:32,960 --> 01:34:33,879
Speaker 4: to wash dishes.

1793
01:34:34,160 --> 01:34:36,080
Speaker 2: Kwan says. I just moved it to my first place

1794
01:34:36,120 --> 01:34:37,920
Speaker 2: post living with my mom that has a dishwatcher, so

1795
01:34:37,920 --> 01:34:40,000
Speaker 2: I played on using it. So far it's just been

1796
01:34:40,040 --> 01:34:43,520
Speaker 2: storage though. Ms barn Say is a former child laborer

1797
01:34:43,600 --> 01:34:45,720
Speaker 2: who had to clean the kitchen multiple times. Is the

1798
01:34:45,720 --> 01:34:48,719
Speaker 2: most refreshing thing when I use my dishwasher, Yeah, Kwan,

1799
01:34:49,080 --> 01:34:51,000
Speaker 2: So when you say you use it for storage, are

1800
01:34:51,000 --> 01:34:53,080
Speaker 2: you storing clean dishes dirty dishes?

1801
01:34:53,439 --> 01:34:56,160
Speaker 3: What is storing dishes in the dishwasher?

1802
01:34:56,200 --> 01:34:59,280
Speaker 2: I wondered, Joe says, when I was a kid, we

1803
01:34:59,320 --> 01:35:01,439
Speaker 2: had a dishwasher for like a couple of years. This

1804
01:35:01,479 --> 01:35:03,439
Speaker 2: is such a long time ago, and the dishwasher just

1805
01:35:03,479 --> 01:35:07,160
Speaker 2: did not work right. Dishwashers don't work like washing machines,

1806
01:35:07,439 --> 01:35:11,080
Speaker 2: where that center agitator makes for manipulating the fabric to

1807
01:35:10,640 --> 01:35:14,000
Speaker 2: get to the dirty dishes just stay in place, so

1808
01:35:14,040 --> 01:35:17,519
Speaker 2: the dishwasher is much more dependent on constantly running water

1809
01:35:17,600 --> 01:35:21,080
Speaker 2: hitting them. Back then, it didn't work. Dishwashers work much

1810
01:35:21,120 --> 01:35:23,280
Speaker 2: better now. But the new problem is that unless you

1811
01:35:23,360 --> 01:35:25,080
Speaker 2: have a house full of people, running the cycle with

1812
01:35:25,160 --> 01:35:27,959
Speaker 2: only a couple of play setting seems like a waste.

1813
01:35:28,160 --> 01:35:30,320
Speaker 2: When there's a sink right there. I used to put

1814
01:35:30,400 --> 01:35:33,120
Speaker 2: dishes in there and wait until whenever I got filled,

1815
01:35:33,120 --> 01:35:35,280
Speaker 2: it got filled to run them. But living with a

1816
01:35:35,360 --> 01:35:38,120
Speaker 2: woman who can't abide the possibility of roaches means using

1817
01:35:38,160 --> 01:35:43,200
Speaker 2: the sink. Here's the thing, And I could be wrong.

1818
01:35:43,400 --> 01:35:47,040
Speaker 2: This is an assumption, Joe, But that sounds like y'all

1819
01:35:47,120 --> 01:35:52,800
Speaker 2: don't cook, which is possible and understandable. But when you

1820
01:35:52,840 --> 01:35:56,240
Speaker 2: cook a meal, nigga, you have enough dishes to wash.

1821
01:35:56,600 --> 01:35:59,080
Speaker 2: That ain't no if fans and buts about it. It

1822
01:35:59,080 --> 01:36:02,679
Speaker 2: ain't just a couple fl you cook a meal niggas.

1823
01:36:03,200 --> 01:36:06,600
Speaker 2: It's everything you use to cook it and then the

1824
01:36:06,640 --> 01:36:09,080
Speaker 2: plates you know what I mean, everything you ate it on.

1825
01:36:09,439 --> 01:36:12,400
Speaker 2: So I think that's another reason we wash dishes a

1826
01:36:12,439 --> 01:36:16,519
Speaker 2: lot is because you know, I cook four five times

1827
01:36:16,560 --> 01:36:20,559
Speaker 2: a week at least, and so it's always like, hey,

1828
01:36:20,640 --> 01:36:22,920
Speaker 2: let's run and I don't do the sit in the

1829
01:36:23,000 --> 01:36:25,680
Speaker 2: kitchen for two three days ship because I also I'm

1830
01:36:25,720 --> 01:36:27,880
Speaker 2: definitely afraid of bucks and roaches and I don't want

1831
01:36:28,360 --> 01:36:29,960
Speaker 2: to look in there and be like, well I did

1832
01:36:30,080 --> 01:36:32,360
Speaker 2: let them flies and that is what happens. You're like, no,

1833
01:36:33,000 --> 01:36:34,840
Speaker 2: I just like it'll be two three in the morning.

1834
01:36:34,880 --> 01:36:36,519
Speaker 2: Sometimes I'd be like, let me run these dishes FORO.

1835
01:36:36,560 --> 01:36:39,479
Speaker 4: I go, I mean, I mean, what is the roaches

1836
01:36:39,479 --> 01:36:40,679
Speaker 4: gonna get in the dish washer?

1837
01:36:40,880 --> 01:36:43,360
Speaker 2: You know, So for me, not the dishwasher, but in

1838
01:36:43,400 --> 01:36:45,679
Speaker 2: the sink. I don't need dishes in the sink.

1839
01:36:45,760 --> 01:36:47,160
Speaker 4: No. No, they were saying, they don't leave them in

1840
01:36:47,200 --> 01:36:49,240
Speaker 4: the dish washer. You let them pile up because you know,

1841
01:36:49,360 --> 01:36:51,439
Speaker 4: if it's sometimes I will put them in there until

1842
01:36:51,439 --> 01:36:53,599
Speaker 4: it gets full and didn't run it, you know, so

1843
01:36:53,640 --> 01:36:54,280
Speaker 4: it don't sit.

1844
01:36:54,400 --> 01:36:56,960
Speaker 2: Well, it sounds like they must not cook a lot, Okay,

1845
01:36:57,080 --> 01:36:58,640
Speaker 2: cause you know what I'm saying, because like, even if

1846
01:36:58,680 --> 01:37:02,240
Speaker 2: you just make eggs sandwich, that's a pot, that a

1847
01:37:02,320 --> 01:37:05,320
Speaker 2: pen that has to be done for the Eggs's the plate,

1848
01:37:05,600 --> 01:37:07,760
Speaker 2: it's the fork, it's you know, it's the bowl that

1849
01:37:07,840 --> 01:37:09,760
Speaker 2: just grabbed the eggs and all it. So you by

1850
01:37:09,800 --> 01:37:12,639
Speaker 2: the end you have accumulated a load of dishes. Maybe

1851
01:37:12,680 --> 01:37:15,880
Speaker 2: not the big load, but that's just a sandwich. If

1852
01:37:15,880 --> 01:37:17,360
Speaker 2: you get and there, make some of the shit. I'm

1853
01:37:17,360 --> 01:37:19,400
Speaker 2: make it where it's like I gotta bake these carris.

1854
01:37:19,439 --> 01:37:23,000
Speaker 2: I gotta up, Yeah, I gotta use a chopping board.

1855
01:37:23,040 --> 01:37:25,479
Speaker 2: I gotta do this. Eventually, I'm like, yeah, the knife

1856
01:37:25,479 --> 01:37:28,000
Speaker 2: got everything gotta get get cleaned and washed.

1857
01:37:28,040 --> 01:37:30,880
Speaker 4: So yeah, And as somebody who was a designated dishwasher

1858
01:37:31,360 --> 01:37:35,360
Speaker 4: that got tired of and learned and learned really really

1859
01:37:35,439 --> 01:37:39,280
Speaker 4: quickly that you shouldn't have had all your slipperwear at

1860
01:37:39,280 --> 01:37:41,080
Speaker 4: the bottom of it and got nicked a few times

1861
01:37:41,080 --> 01:37:43,400
Speaker 4: and cut and slice. Fuck that puts you in the

1862
01:37:43,439 --> 01:37:45,920
Speaker 4: dish washer. Bitch, I got tired of being cut.

1863
01:37:47,200 --> 01:37:50,839
Speaker 2: All right, let's get to Shay says, judging by these comments,

1864
01:37:51,080 --> 01:37:53,560
Speaker 2: I must be a whole widow for not using a dishwasher.

1865
01:37:54,320 --> 01:37:56,559
Speaker 2: But I really don't mind washing dishes. I really do

1866
01:37:56,640 --> 01:38:00,559
Speaker 2: this destress and think better when I clean. Okay, that's good.

1867
01:38:00,760 --> 01:38:02,439
Speaker 2: I tricked myself into believe in that too when I

1868
01:38:02,439 --> 01:38:04,160
Speaker 2: had to watch dishes off the tide of my parents' house.

1869
01:38:04,600 --> 01:38:06,880
Speaker 2: I'm like, this is where I get my good this

1870
01:38:06,960 --> 01:38:09,479
Speaker 2: is why I get my good thinking time in. But

1871
01:38:09,640 --> 01:38:10,720
Speaker 2: really I.

1872
01:38:10,640 --> 01:38:12,400
Speaker 3: Could have been thinking why them dishes was washing in

1873
01:38:12,400 --> 01:38:12,960
Speaker 3: the dish washer.

1874
01:38:13,680 --> 01:38:15,559
Speaker 2: I come from the age of listening to old head

1875
01:38:15,600 --> 01:38:17,360
Speaker 2: music when you do your chores, so I usually throw

1876
01:38:17,360 --> 01:38:19,920
Speaker 2: on some Anito or that whoever, start with the dishes,

1877
01:38:19,960 --> 01:38:21,960
Speaker 2: mopping sweet the kitchen floor, and by the end of

1878
01:38:22,000 --> 01:38:24,639
Speaker 2: my cleaning routine, my VP has dropped and I'm ready

1879
01:38:24,640 --> 01:38:28,000
Speaker 2: for some wine and some Netflix. Well, hey, whatever routine

1880
01:38:28,080 --> 01:38:31,200
Speaker 2: works for you worked for me. Sis, all right, let's

1881
01:38:31,240 --> 01:38:33,799
Speaker 2: get to And I was traumatized. That's why I said

1882
01:38:34,400 --> 01:38:37,439
Speaker 2: this dish washer gonna get this work. The poll results

1883
01:38:37,600 --> 01:38:41,640
Speaker 2: on Spotify washing dishes fifty two percent, so slightly over

1884
01:38:41,680 --> 01:38:48,040
Speaker 2: that fifty percent, storing dishes eleven percent, which nah, I

1885
01:38:48,040 --> 01:38:49,880
Speaker 2: gotta go back and look at this one more time.

1886
01:38:51,000 --> 01:38:54,520
Speaker 2: It was seventeen the last one, so okay.

1887
01:38:54,200 --> 01:38:55,519
Speaker 4: All right, I think it was seventeen.

1888
01:38:55,920 --> 01:38:57,479
Speaker 2: No, you're right, it was seventeen. I'm looking at it

1889
01:38:57,560 --> 01:39:00,439
Speaker 2: right now. Don't have a dish washer twenty four percent?

1890
01:39:01,080 --> 01:39:05,519
Speaker 2: Other zero cleaning sex toys one Shout out to whoever

1891
01:39:05,520 --> 01:39:08,559
Speaker 2: you are, Shout out to that person. Keep it sanitary, okay.

1892
01:39:08,880 --> 01:39:10,959
Speaker 2: A lot of people that's that's that's discouraged.

1893
01:39:10,960 --> 01:39:11,000
Speaker 4: No.

1894
01:39:11,000 --> 01:39:13,640
Speaker 2: One's talk about a lot of people not maintaining and

1895
01:39:13,720 --> 01:39:15,120
Speaker 2: cleaning their sex toys like they need to.

1896
01:39:15,920 --> 01:39:19,559
Speaker 3: And it's not it's not right, Okay, clean it.

1897
01:39:19,680 --> 01:39:22,200
Speaker 2: They come with instructions clean your sex toys, all right,

1898
01:39:23,920 --> 01:39:27,960
Speaker 2: nothing ten percent and storing kitchen items one percent. The

1899
01:39:28,080 --> 01:39:30,719
Speaker 2: Q and A. If you said other to the pole,

1900
01:39:30,920 --> 01:39:34,360
Speaker 2: then what do you use your dishwasher for? That's question? Now?

1901
01:39:34,479 --> 01:39:39,559
Speaker 2: Zero percent said other, but three people answered. Rachel says

1902
01:39:39,600 --> 01:39:43,360
Speaker 2: nothing never ever opened that motherfucker. Yes, black with a

1903
01:39:43,479 --> 01:39:50,280
Speaker 2: whole white husband. I love I love the details on

1904
01:39:50,320 --> 01:39:52,080
Speaker 2: that one. Like it. I know you need a forensic

1905
01:39:52,880 --> 01:39:56,000
Speaker 2: evidence for your poll. Thank you. MS. Bond says, I'm

1906
01:39:56,000 --> 01:39:58,240
Speaker 2: here with my popcorn seeing what else you could use

1907
01:39:58,240 --> 01:40:01,320
Speaker 2: your dishwasher for. At chack, he says, my parents had

1908
01:40:01,360 --> 01:40:03,519
Speaker 2: two dish washers, that it's rarely used outside of once

1909
01:40:03,600 --> 01:40:05,640
Speaker 2: or twice a year. I know it was really my

1910
01:40:05,720 --> 01:40:08,280
Speaker 2: mother who wanted it. One is almost completely empty and

1911
01:40:08,320 --> 01:40:12,720
Speaker 2: another does hold some kitchen were Man, I guess I

1912
01:40:12,800 --> 01:40:13,439
Speaker 2: just don't relate.

1913
01:40:13,479 --> 01:40:15,679
Speaker 4: If I had two dishwa washes, that's twice the work.

1914
01:40:16,960 --> 01:40:20,519
Speaker 2: All right. We got some voicemails to get to.

1915
01:40:22,120 --> 01:40:23,720
Speaker 4: I do want to know to y'all hand wash your

1916
01:40:23,760 --> 01:40:26,040
Speaker 4: clothes too. I don't get it right.

1917
01:40:26,240 --> 01:40:28,040
Speaker 2: I got a rock in the back and I use

1918
01:40:28,080 --> 01:40:30,719
Speaker 2: one of them fucking greater looking things that.

1919
01:40:30,680 --> 01:40:32,400
Speaker 4: Is called a washing machine and the dry I do

1920
01:40:32,520 --> 01:40:33,000
Speaker 4: your work.

1921
01:40:33,080 --> 01:40:35,360
Speaker 2: I go down to the creek, get some ivory soap.

1922
01:40:35,760 --> 01:40:38,559
Speaker 2: All right, let's get to the voicemail. Seven or four five, five, seven?

1923
01:40:38,600 --> 01:40:42,000
Speaker 2: Z here one eight six, Oh, it's just a blank one,

1924
01:40:42,120 --> 01:40:44,920
Speaker 2: all right, cool, cool, got a little blank voicemail here.

1925
01:40:45,360 --> 01:40:46,960
Speaker 2: You love to see it? All right, Well that's a

1926
01:40:47,000 --> 01:40:52,160
Speaker 2: quick one. Let's go to the next one.

1927
01:40:52,479 --> 01:40:55,000
Speaker 1: Hey, Rod and hearing its tyrone again. Man, I ain't

1928
01:40:55,040 --> 01:40:57,599
Speaker 1: stopped y'all in a minute, but I was calling because

1929
01:40:57,600 --> 01:41:00,120
Speaker 1: I saw the movie Fitch this weekend. Man, And I

1930
01:41:00,160 --> 01:41:02,280
Speaker 1: don't know if you've seen anything that's on HBO. I

1931
01:41:02,320 --> 01:41:06,960
Speaker 1: mean not HBO but Apple TV pretty great movie. I

1932
01:41:07,000 --> 01:41:09,719
Speaker 1: was watching this movie and I'm thinking to myself, there's

1933
01:41:09,760 --> 01:41:12,040
Speaker 1: only a certain amount of actors who could pull a

1934
01:41:12,080 --> 01:41:14,120
Speaker 1: movie off like this, like you trying hain't stufs, but

1935
01:41:14,840 --> 01:41:18,479
Speaker 1: you ain't have nothing but man napkin, two batteries and

1936
01:41:18,560 --> 01:41:20,880
Speaker 1: a dog in that end of the movie. Have me crime.

1937
01:41:20,960 --> 01:41:21,120
Speaker 5: Man.

1938
01:41:21,400 --> 01:41:23,840
Speaker 1: It does a great job, and only a couple of

1939
01:41:23,880 --> 01:41:25,960
Speaker 1: actors I've ever seen in my life can do something

1940
01:41:26,000 --> 01:41:30,800
Speaker 1: like that. And it's like Slar Fishburn, Denzel Washington, Viola Davis,

1941
01:41:31,240 --> 01:41:34,360
Speaker 1: Man God rest his old Chad with Bozeman and Maharschel

1942
01:41:34,400 --> 01:41:37,320
Speaker 1: Ali Man. I know I've missed them, but man, these

1943
01:41:37,320 --> 01:41:39,920
Speaker 1: actors can take these roles where they don't have no

1944
01:41:40,160 --> 01:41:42,639
Speaker 1: cats but them, and by the end of the movie,

1945
01:41:42,680 --> 01:41:45,160
Speaker 1: you're like, man, how in the hell this movie didn't

1946
01:41:45,160 --> 01:41:48,840
Speaker 1: get an Academy Award? And I think that Licen isn't

1947
01:41:48,840 --> 01:41:50,560
Speaker 1: fair with that, because if all of them in this

1948
01:41:50,760 --> 01:41:52,519
Speaker 1: movie in a year, you're like, man, all of them

1949
01:41:52,560 --> 01:41:55,200
Speaker 1: need one, and you go, well, just give it to

1950
01:41:55,240 --> 01:41:57,519
Speaker 1: the one in the ten spot, because it's not fair

1951
01:41:57,560 --> 01:41:59,640
Speaker 1: to get one of those up, you know, And the

1952
01:41:59,680 --> 01:42:01,360
Speaker 1: old day whiteness would have gave me to the White

1953
01:42:01,400 --> 01:42:04,080
Speaker 1: Guy anyway. But we all know the movies were great.

1954
01:42:04,160 --> 01:42:06,800
Speaker 1: Think about Glory and the Color of Purple. Man, We

1955
01:42:06,920 --> 01:42:07,920
Speaker 1: all the movies were great.

1956
01:42:08,000 --> 01:42:08,200
Speaker 4: Man.

1957
01:42:08,240 --> 01:42:11,519
Speaker 1: But man, this was a great, great movie. I really

1958
01:42:11,640 --> 01:42:15,040
Speaker 1: enjoyed it, and I just wanted to let y'all know, Man,

1959
01:42:15,040 --> 01:42:16,559
Speaker 1: I like that. And the other thing is, I've been

1960
01:42:16,560 --> 01:42:18,599
Speaker 1: watching a lot of these South Korean shows.

1961
01:42:18,640 --> 01:42:18,840
Speaker 2: Man.

1962
01:42:19,240 --> 01:42:21,479
Speaker 1: The one thing I love about these shows that's on

1963
01:42:21,560 --> 01:42:25,519
Speaker 1: netflixes Man, you don't know who's gonna live them show.

1964
01:42:25,680 --> 01:42:28,440
Speaker 1: The main character is not the main character long. Sometimes

1965
01:42:29,080 --> 01:42:31,640
Speaker 1: you watch the show and twining in and in, you like, oh, man,

1966
01:42:31,640 --> 01:42:34,479
Speaker 1: we're gonna love to watch him. He's dead. So I

1967
01:42:34,520 --> 01:42:36,360
Speaker 1: don't know what you think about those movies, man, but

1968
01:42:37,040 --> 01:42:39,599
Speaker 1: I feel like I review on the Eternal Great movie

1969
01:42:40,439 --> 01:42:43,080
Speaker 1: Died This some work, But man, I really loved the movie.

1970
01:42:43,240 --> 01:42:44,400
Speaker 1: You have a great day, man.

1971
01:42:44,800 --> 01:42:49,240
Speaker 2: Thank you. Tom One haven't finished finish, but I did

1972
01:42:49,320 --> 01:42:51,320
Speaker 2: start it. You actually just reminded me because I don't

1973
01:42:51,320 --> 01:42:53,800
Speaker 2: be on Appleplus enough. You just reminded me I need

1974
01:42:53,800 --> 01:42:56,439
Speaker 2: to go finish that movie. But Tom Hanks is on

1975
01:42:56,479 --> 01:42:59,080
Speaker 2: that list. The other person I would add is Will Smith,

1976
01:43:00,240 --> 01:43:03,280
Speaker 2: and I am legend this motherfucker was on screen for

1977
01:43:03,439 --> 01:43:06,160
Speaker 2: by himself from the majority of that movie that dog

1978
01:43:06,560 --> 01:43:10,679
Speaker 2: and yeah, hit the dog. And then when he did

1979
01:43:10,880 --> 01:43:14,960
Speaker 2: strek Shrek by himself, well, he was like the little

1980
01:43:14,960 --> 01:43:16,840
Speaker 2: girl was watching Shrek and he knew all the words

1981
01:43:16,840 --> 01:43:19,719
Speaker 2: because he had watched it so many times. Who brother?

1982
01:43:19,800 --> 01:43:22,240
Speaker 2: Had me? Had? He had had some tears in the

1983
01:43:22,560 --> 01:43:26,200
Speaker 2: in my eyes. Don't come for me, y'all. Don't cancel me, I.

1984
01:43:26,240 --> 01:43:28,240
Speaker 4: Cried, don't be showing any emotions.

1985
01:43:28,920 --> 01:43:31,880
Speaker 2: Don't tell me. Shut the fuck up? Please, Okay, I

1986
01:43:31,920 --> 01:43:33,680
Speaker 2: know it was Will Smith related, but please do.

1987
01:43:35,439 --> 01:43:38,920
Speaker 3: So that was that was that. We got one last voicemail.

1988
01:43:42,640 --> 01:43:43,439
Speaker 5: Hey, what's up?

1989
01:43:44,040 --> 01:43:46,640
Speaker 8: This is Uh, I guess from Twitter. You know me

1990
01:43:46,680 --> 01:43:50,719
Speaker 8: as uncle as an uncle. Uh, I'm calling from Canada.

1991
01:43:52,040 --> 01:43:53,519
Speaker 8: I was gonna try to call you last night for

1992
01:43:53,520 --> 01:43:56,280
Speaker 8: a long boy, wasn't feeling too good giving you a

1993
01:43:56,280 --> 01:43:58,720
Speaker 8: show right now. I love to chat with you, man.

1994
01:44:00,040 --> 01:44:02,599
Speaker 8: I think the Spotify money has changed, y'all. I don't

1995
01:44:02,680 --> 01:44:05,320
Speaker 8: think that's a bad thing, but I think I've noticed it.

1996
01:44:05,360 --> 01:44:07,280
Speaker 8: And I think the thing that I'm most interested in,

1997
01:44:07,400 --> 01:44:11,120
Speaker 8: to be honest, is like, as we get success in life,

1998
01:44:12,000 --> 01:44:14,839
Speaker 8: that comes with both things that are easy to understand

1999
01:44:14,880 --> 01:44:19,840
Speaker 8: that as positive or money maybe or exposure, you know,

2000
01:44:19,880 --> 01:44:22,800
Speaker 8: bigger audiences, things like that. But there are also things

2001
01:44:22,800 --> 01:44:24,120
Speaker 8: that you kind of brought up when you're talking about

2002
01:44:24,160 --> 01:44:26,880
Speaker 8: with Travis Scott, which was not jumping out and saying

2003
01:44:26,920 --> 01:44:29,280
Speaker 8: out lands of shit or saying the shit that that

2004
01:44:29,360 --> 01:44:32,080
Speaker 8: you're worried might you know, be wrong later. And so

2005
01:44:32,200 --> 01:44:34,080
Speaker 8: it's a difficulty because the thing that maybe got us

2006
01:44:34,080 --> 01:44:37,040
Speaker 8: a platform speaking our mind, you know, being a person

2007
01:44:37,080 --> 01:44:39,880
Speaker 8: we hear these opinions from then we get a little

2008
01:44:39,880 --> 01:44:41,720
Speaker 8: concerned about losing that platform. So I think one of

2009
01:44:41,760 --> 01:44:43,640
Speaker 8: the things that's interesting is not fame, maybe not a

2010
01:44:43,680 --> 01:44:48,280
Speaker 8: discussion of fame, but a discussion of the leveraging or

2011
01:44:48,320 --> 01:44:50,760
Speaker 8: how does that work, how do we move so that

2012
01:44:50,800 --> 01:44:54,800
Speaker 8: we maintain ourselves while growing ourselves. And I think as

2013
01:44:54,800 --> 01:44:57,120
Speaker 8: an audience member, it's a difficult thing because you know,

2014
01:44:57,160 --> 01:44:58,680
Speaker 8: we fall in love with a certain thing and then

2015
01:44:58,680 --> 01:45:01,400
Speaker 8: when it changes, like a relationship, we got to.

2016
01:45:01,360 --> 01:45:02,000
Speaker 5: Grow with it.

2017
01:45:02,120 --> 01:45:04,320
Speaker 8: And I think there's a moment where the audience. I'm

2018
01:45:04,360 --> 01:45:05,760
Speaker 8: a member of, your audience is a memory of your

2019
01:45:05,760 --> 01:45:09,120
Speaker 8: audience for many years, but there's a moment where I

2020
01:45:09,120 --> 01:45:11,720
Speaker 8: need to grow to meet you in the relationship that

2021
01:45:11,760 --> 01:45:13,519
Speaker 8: we have, and it's sort of funny. It must speak

2022
01:45:13,520 --> 01:45:17,160
Speaker 8: dificult and strange for folks like y'all because I don't

2023
01:45:17,200 --> 01:45:19,800
Speaker 8: know all your audience, right, and we don't know you,

2024
01:45:19,880 --> 01:45:21,320
Speaker 8: but you speak at us.

2025
01:45:21,720 --> 01:45:22,920
Speaker 1: We don't speak at you, so you.

2026
01:45:22,920 --> 01:45:24,519
Speaker 8: Don't get to know us the way we get to

2027
01:45:24,520 --> 01:45:27,840
Speaker 8: know you. And yeah, I got a lot of ad say, bro,

2028
01:45:28,080 --> 01:45:31,720
Speaker 8: I've done radio for many years and love talking and

2029
01:45:32,120 --> 01:45:36,080
Speaker 8: love expounding on concepts like this, So I'd love to

2030
01:45:36,120 --> 01:45:36,880
Speaker 8: talk to you anytime.

2031
01:45:36,920 --> 01:45:37,040
Speaker 2: Man.

2032
01:45:37,200 --> 01:45:38,760
Speaker 8: I think that what you're doing is awesome. I think

2033
01:45:38,760 --> 01:45:41,280
Speaker 8: you and Karen are fantastic. I've in a fan forever.

2034
01:45:42,640 --> 01:45:45,040
Speaker 2: You got cut off because it's too many things. But

2035
01:45:45,080 --> 01:45:46,720
Speaker 2: first of all, I'll give you all a backstory on

2036
01:45:46,760 --> 01:45:50,960
Speaker 2: this and thank you because I actually love this. This

2037
01:45:51,080 --> 01:45:53,320
Speaker 2: is actually pretty cool. It's turned out better than I

2038
01:45:53,320 --> 01:45:56,680
Speaker 2: thought it would even and I had hot hopes. But

2039
01:45:57,840 --> 01:46:02,400
Speaker 2: so you know, we have a hashtag on Twitter, and

2040
01:46:02,439 --> 01:46:05,200
Speaker 2: our fans communicate with us through the hashtag and they

2041
01:46:05,840 --> 01:46:08,000
Speaker 2: post like when they're listening to something, they'll be like,

2042
01:46:08,040 --> 01:46:12,080
Speaker 2: hey heard this hashtag TBGWT and then they go in too,

2043
01:46:12,160 --> 01:46:14,280
Speaker 2: like something they heard about the podcast or hey y'all

2044
01:46:14,280 --> 01:46:16,720
Speaker 2: should check out this podcast or they add us at

2045
01:46:16,760 --> 01:46:20,719
Speaker 2: tvg W T blah blah blah. And so her uncle

2046
01:46:21,200 --> 01:46:26,719
Speaker 2: on Twitter has said at TBGWT change with that Spotify money,

2047
01:46:29,000 --> 01:46:35,639
Speaker 2: to which you know, obviously, I'm like, okay, I hope

2048
01:46:36,040 --> 01:46:40,880
Speaker 2: that a positive thing. But also, you know, I think

2049
01:46:40,960 --> 01:46:45,840
Speaker 2: all human beings changed constantly. I don't think if you

2050
01:46:45,960 --> 01:46:49,200
Speaker 2: heard the show ten years ago, it's the same show

2051
01:46:49,240 --> 01:46:53,280
Speaker 2: that you're hearing today, and hopefully that will always be

2052
01:46:53,360 --> 01:46:57,519
Speaker 2: true regardless. I'll get into more details about this in

2053
01:46:57,560 --> 01:47:02,360
Speaker 2: a second, but I want to finish how to exchange

2054
01:47:02,360 --> 01:47:06,519
Speaker 2: went because you know me, I quote tweet it and

2055
01:47:06,680 --> 01:47:10,240
Speaker 2: I said, ah shit, he's on to us.

2056
01:47:12,360 --> 01:47:13,280
Speaker 4: Don't crack the code.

2057
01:47:13,479 --> 01:47:17,080
Speaker 2: Oh no, at my man, I'm sir's food. Fuld said,

2058
01:47:17,200 --> 01:47:18,720
Speaker 2: I take it. He saw a photo you and the

2059
01:47:18,880 --> 01:47:22,519
Speaker 2: ugs and I said, nah, I had them hugs before

2060
01:47:22,560 --> 01:47:25,400
Speaker 2: the Spotify deal. It must be just about this Xbox

2061
01:47:25,479 --> 01:47:30,200
Speaker 2: chain that I bought and uh he had. Uncle replied,

2062
01:47:30,360 --> 01:47:33,679
Speaker 2: you can hear it, and you know I'm gonna be honest.

2063
01:47:34,960 --> 01:47:40,559
Speaker 2: You know, my assumption was probably a person trolling us.

2064
01:47:40,720 --> 01:47:44,360
Speaker 2: It happens all the time. If I can't have fun

2065
01:47:44,400 --> 01:47:46,800
Speaker 2: with it, I typically do not reply, you know, because

2066
01:47:46,840 --> 01:47:50,160
Speaker 2: it's like, what's the point of seriously engaging somebody that

2067
01:47:51,120 --> 01:47:53,519
Speaker 2: you know, as far as I see it, it's mostly

2068
01:47:53,600 --> 01:47:57,200
Speaker 2: a one side relationship. We haven't communicated, we haven't been friends,

2069
01:47:57,200 --> 01:48:00,000
Speaker 2: we don't know each other that well. And you're allowed

2070
01:48:00,200 --> 01:48:01,920
Speaker 2: to feel how you feel about what we do. And

2071
01:48:01,960 --> 01:48:02,800
Speaker 2: there ain't nothing I.

2072
01:48:02,720 --> 01:48:05,840
Speaker 3: Can say, truthful or not truthful that will change that.

2073
01:48:06,120 --> 01:48:06,479
Speaker 4: Agreed.

2074
01:48:06,880 --> 01:48:08,800
Speaker 2: You know, you can either choose to believe what I'm

2075
01:48:08,800 --> 01:48:11,160
Speaker 2: telling you or you can choose not to believe. But

2076
01:48:11,960 --> 01:48:14,800
Speaker 2: I basically just like, oh, so he might be kind

2077
01:48:14,800 --> 01:48:17,280
Speaker 2: of serious because that response was like, you know, no

2078
01:48:17,360 --> 01:48:19,960
Speaker 2: for real, I could hear it. And I said, I hope, So, man,

2079
01:48:19,960 --> 01:48:21,599
Speaker 2: I didn't get all this money to stay the same

2080
01:48:21,720 --> 01:48:24,960
Speaker 2: yet dig And he said, oh, for sure. How do

2081
01:48:25,000 --> 01:48:27,800
Speaker 2: you think it's changed on the on air content? And

2082
01:48:27,880 --> 01:48:29,599
Speaker 2: I said, man, I can't even tell you how much.

2083
01:48:29,680 --> 01:48:31,280
Speaker 2: If you like to set up a phone call to

2084
01:48:31,280 --> 01:48:33,439
Speaker 2: discuss it right now, I'm down. I got a few minutes.

2085
01:48:33,520 --> 01:48:37,000
Speaker 2: Want to DM your number and I said, And then

2086
01:48:37,000 --> 01:48:38,759
Speaker 2: I reply, and don't even give me in the license

2087
01:48:38,800 --> 01:48:42,879
Speaker 2: and the rights issues? Whoa child? That was new about Spotify?

2088
01:48:43,240 --> 01:48:46,880
Speaker 2: But but but then you know, like I said, first,

2089
01:48:46,960 --> 01:48:48,639
Speaker 2: I was just kind of joking about it, but then

2090
01:48:48,680 --> 01:48:52,479
Speaker 2: I was like, honestly, I'm not gonna take it in

2091
01:48:52,520 --> 01:48:55,800
Speaker 2: a defensive place. I'm not gonna take it in a

2092
01:48:55,840 --> 01:48:58,360
Speaker 2: belligerent place. I wouldn't do this for everybody, and it's

2093
01:48:58,400 --> 01:49:01,360
Speaker 2: really just struck my fancy. And it was literally we

2094
01:49:01,400 --> 01:49:03,360
Speaker 2: had nothing else to do with. I was done recording

2095
01:49:03,360 --> 01:49:06,080
Speaker 2: for the night, and so I was like, let me

2096
01:49:06,080 --> 01:49:08,320
Speaker 2: see if I can use this opportunity for some positive

2097
01:49:08,360 --> 01:49:09,880
Speaker 2: to come out of this. So I said, you know,

2098
01:49:10,800 --> 01:49:13,000
Speaker 2: matter of fact, I'm gonna follow you. I followed him back,

2099
01:49:13,040 --> 01:49:15,559
Speaker 2: and I DMed him and said, you know, yo, let

2100
01:49:15,600 --> 01:49:17,760
Speaker 2: me know, shoot me your number, we'll talk, we'll chop

2101
01:49:17,840 --> 01:49:20,600
Speaker 2: it up. I'd love to hear what you think, you know,

2102
01:49:21,240 --> 01:49:24,400
Speaker 2: And I DMed him but he couldn't because he says

2103
01:49:24,560 --> 01:49:27,360
Speaker 2: child was sick so he couldn't call or whatever. And

2104
01:49:27,400 --> 01:49:30,040
Speaker 2: I know feel better sometimes, you know, I think people

2105
01:49:30,040 --> 01:49:33,320
Speaker 2: also getting intimidated by the like, oh now you want

2106
01:49:33,360 --> 01:49:35,519
Speaker 2: to talk. I really was just trolling you. Oh shit

2107
01:49:36,600 --> 01:49:38,240
Speaker 2: a board, you know what I'm saying. And you didn't

2108
01:49:38,240 --> 01:49:39,960
Speaker 2: come at me on something like man, fuck, you didn't

2109
01:49:40,000 --> 01:49:43,000
Speaker 2: don't listen, you know, like, so now there's not even

2110
01:49:43,040 --> 01:49:45,240
Speaker 2: like a way I can make you the like while

2111
01:49:45,240 --> 01:49:49,800
Speaker 2: I'm vilifying you like you ain't shit. So it was like,

2112
01:49:50,040 --> 01:49:52,040
Speaker 2: all right, if you think we changed, like, I love

2113
01:49:52,040 --> 01:49:54,840
Speaker 2: to hear what you think has happened, because you know,

2114
01:49:55,040 --> 01:50:00,559
Speaker 2: I I wouldn't disagree that the show has changed in general,

2115
01:50:00,560 --> 01:50:02,960
Speaker 2: but I would say it definitely is not because anything

2116
01:50:03,000 --> 01:50:07,519
Speaker 2: was Spotify. But more importantly, we ain't on Spotify no

2117
01:50:07,600 --> 01:50:12,680
Speaker 2: more like as far as on their payroll or exclusively

2118
01:50:12,720 --> 01:50:15,800
Speaker 2: on Spotify. We haven't been exclusively on Spotify for more

2119
01:50:15,840 --> 01:50:19,679
Speaker 2: than a few months now. So the conversation and the

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01:50:19,800 --> 01:50:22,240
Speaker 2: stuff we say about Travis Scott to me is something

2121
01:50:22,280 --> 01:50:26,759
Speaker 2: we would have said period, agreed, Like there's no corporate sponsor.

2122
01:50:27,080 --> 01:50:30,559
Speaker 2: Matter of fact, Spotify never had any content control over

2123
01:50:30,600 --> 01:50:35,240
Speaker 2: our show. We've never made a deal with anybody, even advertisers,

2124
01:50:35,280 --> 01:50:38,040
Speaker 2: that would have content control over our show. That is

2125
01:50:38,080 --> 01:50:41,719
Speaker 2: so important to us. I can't even I'd rather lose

2126
01:50:41,800 --> 01:50:45,080
Speaker 2: money than have to change what I have to say

2127
01:50:45,200 --> 01:50:48,360
Speaker 2: to y'all or about me, So I would never do that.

2128
01:50:50,400 --> 01:50:54,479
Speaker 2: And it was funny because the appearance of a co

2129
01:50:54,680 --> 01:50:58,800
Speaker 2: sign by white people was super powerful to a lot

2130
01:50:58,840 --> 01:51:04,439
Speaker 2: of people psychologically in a way that honestly was not

2131
01:51:04,520 --> 01:51:08,200
Speaker 2: super powerful for me and Karen. Okay, and that's not

2132
01:51:08,360 --> 01:51:11,200
Speaker 2: a knock on Spotify, but just in like we already

2133
01:51:11,200 --> 01:51:15,080
Speaker 2: thought our shit was dope, so Spotify wanted to come

2134
01:51:15,120 --> 01:51:18,040
Speaker 2: on board. Just felt more like, oh, maybe they think

2135
01:51:18,080 --> 01:51:20,559
Speaker 2: it's dope and they think they can like blow us

2136
01:51:20,640 --> 01:51:22,880
Speaker 2: up or they can help us reach a new level,

2137
01:51:23,479 --> 01:51:25,599
Speaker 2: but they won't be the first or the last people

2138
01:51:25,640 --> 01:51:28,080
Speaker 2: to see what we're doing and think, what if we

2139
01:51:28,240 --> 01:51:32,400
Speaker 2: did things a little bit bigger? Or what if they

2140
01:51:32,400 --> 01:51:35,200
Speaker 2: get a TV deal? If they what if we feature

2141
01:51:35,240 --> 01:51:37,439
Speaker 2: them more? Will we can we you know, make this

2142
01:51:37,520 --> 01:51:39,479
Speaker 2: a bigger brand. That happened, that's happened to us more

2143
01:51:39,479 --> 01:51:41,840
Speaker 2: than once. We've turned down a lot of those deals

2144
01:51:41,880 --> 01:51:45,720
Speaker 2: because they weren't right for us. But you know, we've

2145
01:51:45,720 --> 01:51:49,960
Speaker 2: always been transparent about that. So that's number one when

2146
01:51:50,200 --> 01:51:53,639
Speaker 2: or whatever number on too, I guess. So the other

2147
01:51:53,720 --> 01:51:57,600
Speaker 2: thing is, dog, it wasn't that much money. We're not

2148
01:51:57,720 --> 01:52:00,200
Speaker 2: talking I don't know if I can tell y'all how

2149
01:52:00,280 --> 01:52:03,519
Speaker 2: much it was, but we're not talking about some like

2150
01:52:03,640 --> 01:52:06,360
Speaker 2: Joe Rogan. This ain't millions. It's not even hundreds of

2151
01:52:06,360 --> 01:52:09,840
Speaker 2: thousands dollars. It was never that much money. It was like,

2152
01:52:10,760 --> 01:52:15,080
Speaker 2: this is nice for like, this is like if we

2153
01:52:15,920 --> 01:52:18,680
Speaker 2: had ads on every show, how much we would get

2154
01:52:18,720 --> 01:52:22,400
Speaker 2: paid over the course of a month. And that's cool,

2155
01:52:22,439 --> 01:52:25,360
Speaker 2: Like that is good money. There's nothing wrong with that.

2156
01:52:25,960 --> 01:52:31,080
Speaker 2: We lost download numbers and statistics when we went exclusives

2157
01:52:31,080 --> 01:52:33,960
Speaker 2: to Spotify, and we have not got them back and

2158
01:52:34,000 --> 01:52:36,599
Speaker 2: we probably never will get them fully back right now.

2159
01:52:36,640 --> 01:52:39,040
Speaker 2: That's mostly because a lot of the downloads and stuff

2160
01:52:39,080 --> 01:52:42,880
Speaker 2: over ten years are passive download numbers. And also at

2161
01:52:42,880 --> 01:52:47,920
Speaker 2: the same time, iTunes overhauled their entire shit, which when

2162
01:52:47,960 --> 01:52:50,400
Speaker 2: we come back to that feed, a lot of people's

2163
01:52:50,760 --> 01:52:54,040
Speaker 2: shit is just fucked up from iTunes, Like Apple podcast

2164
01:52:54,120 --> 01:52:56,960
Speaker 2: is just a shit show at that point. So that's

2165
01:52:57,040 --> 01:53:01,000
Speaker 2: killing us too, right, So numbers wise, it didn't put

2166
01:53:01,040 --> 01:53:04,439
Speaker 2: us in a better position afterwards, because numbers is what

2167
01:53:04,560 --> 01:53:07,720
Speaker 2: advertisers look at, and they, for the most part, advertisers

2168
01:53:07,720 --> 01:53:13,559
Speaker 2: are not that detailed. Like the advertisers should probably fuck

2169
01:53:13,640 --> 01:53:16,200
Speaker 2: with us and pay us less than they would a

2170
01:53:16,240 --> 01:53:19,000
Speaker 2: show that got more downloads, possibly, but they would get

2171
01:53:19,000 --> 01:53:21,640
Speaker 2: a higher level of return. They get the return of

2172
01:53:21,720 --> 01:53:25,080
Speaker 2: a show with more downloads because we have very loyal

2173
01:53:25,160 --> 01:53:28,200
Speaker 2: fans that fuck with us, that believe in us, that

2174
01:53:28,280 --> 01:53:31,200
Speaker 2: want to see us succeed, you know, and don't just

2175
01:53:31,240 --> 01:53:33,240
Speaker 2: look at us as simply a product. That look at

2176
01:53:33,320 --> 01:53:36,080
Speaker 2: us as like Rod and caring the people in my head, right,

2177
01:53:36,760 --> 01:53:39,760
Speaker 2: And I think, I don't know, over ten years you

2178
01:53:39,800 --> 01:53:43,679
Speaker 2: say you were listening to years every years of listening

2179
01:53:43,680 --> 01:53:46,040
Speaker 2: to us, there's people that fuck with us on some

2180
01:53:46,080 --> 01:53:50,400
Speaker 2: more than just tuning in to the radio shit, all right, So,

2181
01:53:51,600 --> 01:53:54,360
Speaker 2: but no, we took a hit. There's advertisers we don't get. Now,

2182
01:53:54,680 --> 01:53:56,880
Speaker 2: there's looks that we won't get because it's like, y'all,

2183
01:53:56,960 --> 01:53:58,559
Speaker 2: numbers need to get back up, and I don't even

2184
01:53:58,600 --> 01:54:00,559
Speaker 2: know how we get those numbers back up. We're working

2185
01:54:00,600 --> 01:54:04,040
Speaker 2: on that, but you know that that there's but we're

2186
01:54:04,120 --> 01:54:06,439
Speaker 2: you know, without chasing numbers and changing the show too much.

2187
01:54:07,080 --> 01:54:09,400
Speaker 2: You know, there's there's stuff behind the scenes with that, right,

2188
01:54:10,240 --> 01:54:13,040
Speaker 2: So this is not life changing money, This is not

2189
01:54:13,720 --> 01:54:17,519
Speaker 2: life changing listens and and and downloads and statistics or

2190
01:54:17,520 --> 01:54:21,439
Speaker 2: any of that stuff. So in those ways, I don't

2191
01:54:21,439 --> 01:54:24,479
Speaker 2: think the show changed things that did change about the

2192
01:54:24,560 --> 01:54:29,960
Speaker 2: show from a spoderpot first perspective, with stuff like rights

2193
01:54:29,960 --> 01:54:33,280
Speaker 2: and licenses. So maybe we used to play songs on

2194
01:54:33,320 --> 01:54:35,320
Speaker 2: the show and it's like I gotta use the bathroom.

2195
01:54:35,320 --> 01:54:37,080
Speaker 2: I'mna put on this Kendrick Lamar, I'll be al right back,

2196
01:54:37,680 --> 01:54:40,320
Speaker 2: I can't do that no more. Because also I found

2197
01:54:40,320 --> 01:54:42,720
Speaker 2: out legally like oh you can get jo for that. Okay,

2198
01:54:42,760 --> 01:54:45,160
Speaker 2: well yeah, take that out. Stuff.

2199
01:54:45,640 --> 01:54:48,280
Speaker 4: Shit didn't happened where anytime they was like hey, dog,

2200
01:54:48,480 --> 01:54:50,800
Speaker 4: like this flagged and that flagged and this flagged it

2201
01:54:50,880 --> 01:54:54,600
Speaker 4: Normally it's certain artists were like, oh, it's these artists, right.

2202
01:54:56,360 --> 01:54:59,760
Speaker 2: So the thing I found interesting because I had suspected

2203
01:54:59,760 --> 01:55:02,000
Speaker 2: this on social media but didn't say it. I would

2204
01:55:02,080 --> 01:55:04,800
Speaker 2: rather you say it yourself. I thought it was about

2205
01:55:04,840 --> 01:55:09,400
Speaker 2: the Travis Scott thing, and my point with the Travis

2206
01:55:09,400 --> 01:55:13,120
Speaker 2: Scott thing, I find it interesting. I have been talking

2207
01:55:13,200 --> 01:55:17,560
Speaker 2: like this for a few years now. It's not Travis Scott.

2208
01:55:18,320 --> 01:55:21,800
Speaker 2: I've been talking like this about Taylor Swift. I've been

2209
01:55:21,880 --> 01:55:25,360
Speaker 2: talking about this about Kanye. That's not a Spotify thing.

2210
01:55:25,960 --> 01:55:29,560
Speaker 2: That started before that. You know when Kanye went Maggan

2211
01:55:29,680 --> 01:55:33,680
Speaker 2: what was that twenty sixteen, well, twenty sixteen, twenty is

2212
01:55:33,680 --> 01:55:36,040
Speaker 2: that when Trump won twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen. I remember

2213
01:55:36,080 --> 01:55:39,080
Speaker 2: being like, nah, I'm not joining in on this, like

2214
01:55:39,880 --> 01:55:44,480
Speaker 2: we going at Kanye did we we harassing him on Twitter?

2215
01:55:44,520 --> 01:55:47,040
Speaker 2: And shit, I was like, it don't seem right, and

2216
01:55:48,000 --> 01:55:52,400
Speaker 2: that is not a Spotify thing, that is one mpath thing.

2217
01:55:52,480 --> 01:55:54,680
Speaker 2: And I'm leaning into that because that's who I am

2218
01:55:54,760 --> 01:55:56,880
Speaker 2: and I'm not gonna ever run away from that again,

2219
01:55:58,400 --> 01:56:01,200
Speaker 2: even with me learning to set boundaries stuff. I gotta

2220
01:56:01,240 --> 01:56:03,400
Speaker 2: be who I am and it's what makes me unique,

2221
01:56:03,600 --> 01:56:05,640
Speaker 2: and it's what makes our show unique. If you lean

2222
01:56:05,680 --> 01:56:07,560
Speaker 2: into what makes you unique, your show will never be

2223
01:56:07,680 --> 01:56:09,400
Speaker 2: like another person show and no one will ever be

2224
01:56:09,400 --> 01:56:11,920
Speaker 2: able to copy it. And you'll keep listening because you

2225
01:56:11,960 --> 01:56:13,760
Speaker 2: don't know what the fuck we're gonna say, because we

2226
01:56:13,840 --> 01:56:16,560
Speaker 2: don't know what the fuck we're gonna say. And it's

2227
01:56:16,600 --> 01:56:18,960
Speaker 2: not some contrarion shit either. It's just this is my

2228
01:56:19,080 --> 01:56:21,959
Speaker 2: honest opinion, and maybe it doesn't fall in line with everybody,

2229
01:56:21,960 --> 01:56:25,320
Speaker 2: but I think I can say stuff to you and

2230
01:56:25,520 --> 01:56:28,160
Speaker 2: you can hear the logic and you can go either

2231
01:56:28,200 --> 01:56:31,640
Speaker 2: fuck him or I get it or I don't. Right, Yeah,

2232
01:56:31,720 --> 01:56:34,200
Speaker 2: Lawrence Hills, somebody brought up you know what I mean?

2233
01:56:34,320 --> 01:56:36,800
Speaker 2: Like I remember people think I was joking. I'm like,

2234
01:56:36,960 --> 01:56:40,640
Speaker 2: I'm not joking. I love Lauryn Hill and y'all, and

2235
01:56:40,680 --> 01:56:42,880
Speaker 2: I feel like y'all did her dirty and y'all are

2236
01:56:43,440 --> 01:56:46,760
Speaker 2: y'all are such hypocrites for all this self care black

2237
01:56:46,760 --> 01:56:50,560
Speaker 2: girl magic bullshit that as soon as she fucking has

2238
01:56:50,600 --> 01:56:52,600
Speaker 2: any issues in her life, it's like, fuck that bitch

2239
01:56:52,680 --> 01:56:56,120
Speaker 2: is her fault. We laughing at her, you know. But anyway,

2240
01:56:56,280 --> 01:56:58,320
Speaker 2: so that's a thing you hear, But that ain't a

2241
01:56:58,360 --> 01:57:01,840
Speaker 2: Spotify thing. You know. If I came on here and

2242
01:57:01,880 --> 01:57:04,200
Speaker 2: said fuck Travis Scott, you might be like, that's what

2243
01:57:04,240 --> 01:57:06,760
Speaker 2: they do. But I don't think we ever were that show.

2244
01:57:08,480 --> 01:57:11,240
Speaker 2: Me and Karen often talked privately about this because we're

2245
01:57:11,280 --> 01:57:14,800
Speaker 2: fans of other podcasts, and we always say when people

2246
01:57:14,880 --> 01:57:18,880
Speaker 2: podcasts start is rock and roll. Yes, when you start

2247
01:57:18,920 --> 01:57:23,720
Speaker 2: your podcast, you're so reckless. You're saying shit one because

2248
01:57:23,720 --> 01:57:25,680
Speaker 2: you ain't getting no attention, so you're saying something to

2249
01:57:25,680 --> 01:57:29,840
Speaker 2: try to get attention. Two, you don't know the rules. Nope,

2250
01:57:30,440 --> 01:57:33,280
Speaker 2: enjoy that. By the way, while you can enjoy not

2251
01:57:33,400 --> 01:57:35,520
Speaker 2: knowing the rules, that's really the fun journey where it

2252
01:57:35,560 --> 01:57:39,200
Speaker 2: starts is because that's where you create something unique because

2253
01:57:39,240 --> 01:57:42,160
Speaker 2: you didn't know you couldn't do that right, and then

2254
01:57:42,200 --> 01:57:44,800
Speaker 2: you might make something. But I have listened to so

2255
01:57:44,920 --> 01:57:47,040
Speaker 2: many shows. I won't name them shows because I just

2256
01:57:47,080 --> 01:57:49,960
Speaker 2: don't want to. I'm not trying to start no shit.

2257
01:57:50,000 --> 01:57:52,040
Speaker 4: You listen to hundreds of podcasts a piece.

2258
01:57:52,040 --> 01:57:54,960
Speaker 2: But there are so many shows that are reckless as

2259
01:57:55,120 --> 01:57:58,919
Speaker 2: fuck to get attention, and they're mean and they're nasty,

2260
01:57:59,360 --> 01:58:02,160
Speaker 2: and they're so file and people come there for the

2261
01:58:02,280 --> 01:58:05,600
Speaker 2: rumors and the meanness and the and the and the

2262
01:58:05,720 --> 01:58:09,080
Speaker 2: and the rants and the raven and they never stop

2263
01:58:09,120 --> 01:58:15,040
Speaker 2: and think, well, these people are not gonna be able

2264
01:58:15,040 --> 01:58:17,760
Speaker 2: to receive this when it's dished out to them, and

2265
01:58:17,800 --> 01:58:21,360
Speaker 2: they're building an audience that needs that. We have never

2266
01:58:22,000 --> 01:58:25,560
Speaker 2: had that audience ever, not from day the fuck one.

2267
01:58:26,160 --> 01:58:27,480
Speaker 2: We do not covet that.

2268
01:58:28,160 --> 01:58:30,320
Speaker 3: We don't want mean, we don't want nasty.

2269
01:58:30,320 --> 01:58:32,720
Speaker 2: I don't want liberal mean. I don't want fucking right

2270
01:58:32,760 --> 01:58:36,720
Speaker 2: wing me. I don't want woke mean. I don't want that.

2271
01:58:36,720 --> 01:58:39,080
Speaker 2: That's not who we are, and our audience reflects it.

2272
01:58:39,120 --> 01:58:43,320
Speaker 2: Even even this, this message you just left was so nice,

2273
01:58:43,840 --> 01:58:47,880
Speaker 2: so respectful. So I'm so proud of that from our listeners,

2274
01:58:47,880 --> 01:58:49,680
Speaker 2: because that's what the fuck we put into the world

2275
01:58:49,680 --> 01:58:52,080
Speaker 2: and we get it back, right, and we just don't

2276
01:58:52,120 --> 01:58:54,600
Speaker 2: really reward a lot of trolling and all that back

2277
01:58:54,600 --> 01:58:57,879
Speaker 2: and forth, and we don't just shit on celebrities for haha.

2278
01:58:57,920 --> 01:58:59,720
Speaker 2: So y'all could tell us how great we are. That

2279
01:58:59,840 --> 01:59:03,320
Speaker 2: was like, you know, I'm not saying we never find

2280
01:59:03,400 --> 01:59:05,800
Speaker 2: jokes and shit. We always do, but we just there's

2281
01:59:05,800 --> 01:59:07,440
Speaker 2: just a level on that I don't want to go

2282
01:59:08,360 --> 01:59:10,560
Speaker 2: because I see people as human at the end of

2283
01:59:10,600 --> 01:59:13,760
Speaker 2: the day, and unless you really do some foul shit,

2284
01:59:13,920 --> 01:59:15,760
Speaker 2: like I'm not talking you made a mistake. I'm talking

2285
01:59:15,760 --> 01:59:19,560
Speaker 2: you just a foul motherfucker, or you just trolling or whatever,

2286
01:59:19,760 --> 01:59:22,120
Speaker 2: that's when I'm like, okay, like Candice owns, yeah, I

2287
01:59:22,120 --> 01:59:26,080
Speaker 2: don't give a fuck, but like I don't know, like

2288
01:59:26,160 --> 01:59:28,560
Speaker 2: I'm not jumping in on a hate Taylor Swift bandwagon.

2289
01:59:28,600 --> 01:59:30,240
Speaker 2: I don't really care what people think about me.

2290
01:59:30,440 --> 01:59:30,640
Speaker 4: Right.

2291
01:59:30,800 --> 01:59:32,880
Speaker 2: We lost a couple listeners over me being like, yeah,

2292
01:59:32,920 --> 01:59:35,560
Speaker 2: I'm just not gonna join this hate train. You know,

2293
01:59:35,600 --> 01:59:37,920
Speaker 2: it's a woman on Facebook that still follows me to

2294
01:59:37,960 --> 01:59:40,840
Speaker 2: this day because I had unfriended her and then she

2295
01:59:40,960 --> 01:59:43,200
Speaker 2: just hit the follow button and I was just like, well,

2296
01:59:43,320 --> 01:59:45,000
Speaker 2: that just means you can't comment on my shit, which

2297
01:59:45,040 --> 01:59:48,200
Speaker 2: is fine, But anytime I made even a joke or

2298
01:59:48,280 --> 01:59:50,240
Speaker 2: reference to Taylor Swift, she was just showing up with

2299
01:59:50,640 --> 01:59:53,880
Speaker 2: how much she hated her and how much fucking she

2300
01:59:54,000 --> 01:59:56,240
Speaker 2: hated that. I didn't hate her, and it was just like,

2301
01:59:56,440 --> 01:59:59,200
Speaker 2: you don't own me, and I don't have to join

2302
01:59:59,200 --> 02:00:00,920
Speaker 2: your little hate group. I think that shit is silly.

2303
02:00:01,000 --> 02:00:04,760
Speaker 2: You sound like a fourth grader. We're dopes. This is

2304
02:00:04,840 --> 02:00:07,720
Speaker 2: this woman has no effect over your life, you know.

2305
02:00:08,080 --> 02:00:10,600
Speaker 2: And she also was really not hurting nobody with that shit.

2306
02:00:11,240 --> 02:00:15,160
Speaker 2: So my point being, I've been like that. I don't

2307
02:00:15,200 --> 02:00:18,600
Speaker 2: think that's a change. I don't do it so the

2308
02:00:18,640 --> 02:00:23,000
Speaker 2: audience will like meet us halfway. Maybe you will, that's

2309
02:00:23,080 --> 02:00:27,000
Speaker 2: nice if you feel like we're some period of maturity

2310
02:00:27,000 --> 02:00:29,440
Speaker 2: where you're like, yo, I need to get there. Cool.

2311
02:00:29,720 --> 02:00:31,520
Speaker 2: I hope you do too. I think there's a lot

2312
02:00:31,560 --> 02:00:34,080
Speaker 2: of shit we could be. You know, we're gonna be

2313
02:00:34,080 --> 02:00:35,520
Speaker 2: better and more matured.

2314
02:00:35,240 --> 02:00:37,240
Speaker 3: A year from now, hopefully than we are today.

2315
02:00:37,360 --> 02:00:40,960
Speaker 2: Right, that's to go. So I'm not gonna knock that.

2316
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Speaker 2: But yeah, those are my main thoughts about, you know,

2317
02:00:45,480 --> 02:00:49,120
Speaker 2: any changes. But it definitely ain't no money. That's not

2318
02:00:50,040 --> 02:00:52,880
Speaker 2: we was talking like this before some money shit. We

2319
02:00:52,880 --> 02:00:58,040
Speaker 2: was never the reckless podcast. The few times that we've

2320
02:00:58,080 --> 02:01:03,440
Speaker 2: had moments, especially me more than anybody, of recklessness and

2321
02:01:03,520 --> 02:01:07,000
Speaker 2: really shit talking coming down on people. I've regretted it

2322
02:01:07,040 --> 02:01:09,640
Speaker 2: every time I've talked about it on the show, every time.

2323
02:01:10,040 --> 02:01:12,800
Speaker 2: I've even apologized, times when I don't even know if

2324
02:01:12,800 --> 02:01:14,680
Speaker 2: the person heard the apology, but I was like, yeah,

2325
02:01:14,760 --> 02:01:16,960
Speaker 2: I shouldn't have did that. There's only been a few

2326
02:01:17,000 --> 02:01:21,440
Speaker 2: times where I've really been mean or nasty or indignant

2327
02:01:21,480 --> 02:01:25,280
Speaker 2: and felt that was totally justified. You know, I could

2328
02:01:25,280 --> 02:01:29,960
Speaker 2: probably count them on one hand. So yeah, so yeah, man,

2329
02:01:30,000 --> 02:01:32,320
Speaker 2: That's where I'm coming from. And then also like just

2330
02:01:32,400 --> 02:01:41,640
Speaker 2: examining ourselves, examining myself, learning about anxiety, learning about dealing

2331
02:01:41,680 --> 02:01:45,280
Speaker 2: with the internet, learning about mental.

2332
02:01:45,000 --> 02:01:47,040
Speaker 3: Health and stuff, therapy and stuff.

2333
02:01:47,720 --> 02:01:50,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got damn right. I changed, you know what

2334
02:01:50,920 --> 02:01:52,880
Speaker 2: I mean. I'm proud of those changes, and I hope

2335
02:01:52,920 --> 02:01:54,800
Speaker 2: to continue to change, and I hope to continue to

2336
02:01:54,800 --> 02:01:58,640
Speaker 2: be proud. And I think how I spend my energy

2337
02:01:58,680 --> 02:02:02,080
Speaker 2: and where I spend my energy has changed, and the

2338
02:02:02,120 --> 02:02:05,000
Speaker 2: conversations I'm privy to and the conversations I take part

2339
02:02:05,040 --> 02:02:10,080
Speaker 2: in have changed. So I you know, but I'm glad

2340
02:02:10,120 --> 02:02:13,320
Speaker 2: you said that because I hope people do take that

2341
02:02:13,360 --> 02:02:16,480
Speaker 2: from what we said about Travis Scott. And I know

2342
02:02:16,720 --> 02:02:18,600
Speaker 2: you probably ain't gonna hear that from too many other

2343
02:02:18,640 --> 02:02:23,080
Speaker 2: people because they either don't agree, which is fine, or

2344
02:02:23,080 --> 02:02:26,720
Speaker 2: they chicken shit and they do know that that's wrong,

2345
02:02:26,840 --> 02:02:30,400
Speaker 2: and they do know attacking Chris Pratt and doing that,

2346
02:02:30,680 --> 02:02:32,560
Speaker 2: they do know that was foul, and they won't come

2347
02:02:32,560 --> 02:02:34,480
Speaker 2: out and be like, you know what, I was wrong

2348
02:02:34,520 --> 02:02:37,480
Speaker 2: for that that. I don't really give a fuck about

2349
02:02:37,520 --> 02:02:39,720
Speaker 2: his kid. I really just did that for the chits

2350
02:02:39,720 --> 02:02:43,240
Speaker 2: and giggles on the internet and to keep participating in

2351
02:02:43,280 --> 02:02:47,520
Speaker 2: this hate culture we built, you know. So all right, Karen,

2352
02:02:47,560 --> 02:02:49,640
Speaker 2: did you want to add anything or no? Oh?

2353
02:02:49,680 --> 02:02:56,560
Speaker 4: For me, you talking about growth, we both have grown

2354
02:02:57,720 --> 02:03:04,080
Speaker 4: a lot. I know for me as an indivisual, I've

2355
02:03:04,640 --> 02:03:06,600
Speaker 4: over the years, I don't know how long you've been listening,

2356
02:03:06,640 --> 02:03:09,520
Speaker 4: but over the twelve years twelve thirteen years we've been

2357
02:03:09,560 --> 02:03:14,400
Speaker 4: doing the show, I have found my voice. I have

2358
02:03:15,440 --> 02:03:20,440
Speaker 4: embraced and have a more better understanding of what being

2359
02:03:20,480 --> 02:03:28,600
Speaker 4: a co host means and speaking up and speaking my voice,

2360
02:03:28,800 --> 02:03:33,840
Speaker 4: and Roderick allows me to do that and just being

2361
02:03:33,960 --> 02:03:39,480
Speaker 4: myself whoever my authentic self is, and the person that

2362
02:03:39,520 --> 02:03:41,840
Speaker 4: you hear on a mic is who I really am.

2363
02:03:42,320 --> 02:03:45,000
Speaker 4: And sometimes I think for a lot of people, And

2364
02:03:44,960 --> 02:03:46,400
Speaker 4: when I said, I mean Rogicks is the hundred of

2365
02:03:46,400 --> 02:03:49,320
Speaker 4: the shows. You can tell when somebody's not being real

2366
02:03:49,440 --> 02:03:51,840
Speaker 4: and sincere and they're putting on a personality that's not

2367
02:03:51,880 --> 02:03:55,400
Speaker 4: who they really are. And I think, and I think

2368
02:03:56,880 --> 02:03:59,320
Speaker 4: it confuses people with me and Roger because a lot

2369
02:03:59,320 --> 02:04:02,240
Speaker 4: of times the opinions we give on here are the

2370
02:04:02,240 --> 02:04:04,400
Speaker 4: same opinions we will get on Facebook or the same opinions

2371
02:04:04,400 --> 02:04:06,160
Speaker 4: we will give on Twitter, and a lot of people

2372
02:04:06,200 --> 02:04:09,480
Speaker 4: they don't understand that, and they think it's fake or

2373
02:04:09,520 --> 02:04:11,720
Speaker 4: it's phony, or that's not who we really are. But

2374
02:04:11,760 --> 02:04:15,360
Speaker 4: that's that's who we really are. And I know for me,

2375
02:04:15,880 --> 02:04:21,080
Speaker 4: Roderick is more he's more open as far as like

2376
02:04:21,160 --> 02:04:24,600
Speaker 4: being online and interacting with the fans and all that

2377
02:04:24,600 --> 02:04:29,520
Speaker 4: stuff than I am. I think, because the way my

2378
02:04:29,680 --> 02:04:33,520
Speaker 4: mind works, worse mean things, y'all, Like they really mean

2379
02:04:33,680 --> 02:04:36,520
Speaker 4: things to me. I just don't spit shit out just

2380
02:04:36,520 --> 02:04:39,040
Speaker 4: to spit shit out just for the shits and giggles

2381
02:04:39,080 --> 02:04:42,520
Speaker 4: at times, like you know, And so for me, when

2382
02:04:42,560 --> 02:04:45,280
Speaker 4: I read it, I interpret it just like everybody else,

2383
02:04:45,360 --> 02:04:49,080
Speaker 4: in very in different ways. And so I know I'm

2384
02:04:49,120 --> 02:04:51,160
Speaker 4: different than a lot of people. People read shit and

2385
02:04:51,200 --> 02:04:54,680
Speaker 4: they just go off and yeah, because that's how you

2386
02:04:54,720 --> 02:04:58,520
Speaker 4: interpreted it, I understand. And so I'm a person where

2387
02:04:59,360 --> 02:05:01,400
Speaker 4: I like to see your face and hear your voice

2388
02:05:01,400 --> 02:05:03,880
Speaker 4: and hear your inflection because that's the shit that matters

2389
02:05:03,920 --> 02:05:06,320
Speaker 4: to me more than your words, and particularly when I'm

2390
02:05:06,360 --> 02:05:08,720
Speaker 4: reading words online, and so a lot of times I'll

2391
02:05:08,720 --> 02:05:12,200
Speaker 4: ask Roderick Rogic is kind of my filter, you know,

2392
02:05:12,440 --> 02:05:14,240
Speaker 4: And I know we said the football Rogick is my

2393
02:05:14,240 --> 02:05:16,000
Speaker 4: filter to a lot of shit. I'm like, what the

2394
02:05:16,000 --> 02:05:20,200
Speaker 4: fuck this means? Because I'm reading it and my interpretation

2395
02:05:20,360 --> 02:05:23,120
Speaker 4: of it is one thing, but they actually mean it

2396
02:05:23,200 --> 02:05:26,840
Speaker 4: another way. And because Rogeric is kind of more adapted

2397
02:05:26,880 --> 02:05:31,040
Speaker 4: and adjusted to online than I am, he can let

2398
02:05:31,080 --> 02:05:32,080
Speaker 4: me understand.

2399
02:05:32,800 --> 02:05:35,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, because when I'm caring about this, I think her

2400
02:05:36,000 --> 02:05:38,880
Speaker 2: first response was basically like, this motherfucker is just being

2401
02:05:39,120 --> 02:05:43,040
Speaker 2: a troll or disrespectful or whatever the fuck. And I

2402
02:05:43,160 --> 02:05:46,200
Speaker 2: was like, I'm gonna at least see if that's what

2403
02:05:46,280 --> 02:05:49,080
Speaker 2: the case is, because maybe it is, but maybe it's not.

2404
02:05:49,200 --> 02:05:51,800
Speaker 2: And sometimes you can. I think this is good content

2405
02:05:51,840 --> 02:05:53,880
Speaker 2: for the show because there's probably people that think about

2406
02:05:53,880 --> 02:05:56,600
Speaker 2: this or feel this way, especially when they disagree with

2407
02:05:56,680 --> 02:05:59,840
Speaker 2: something like y'all wouldn't have felt this way before, I

2408
02:06:00,040 --> 02:06:07,040
Speaker 2: would say, respectfully, I disagree. I think this particular topic

2409
02:06:07,120 --> 02:06:11,880
Speaker 2: about celebrity shit, we felt this way so long. It's honestly,

2410
02:06:12,200 --> 02:06:15,360
Speaker 2: probably longer than you've been listening. I still remember the

2411
02:06:15,480 --> 02:06:20,400
Speaker 2: episode where people got so fucking upset with us and

2412
02:06:20,480 --> 02:06:25,280
Speaker 2: specifically me, because Kim Kardashian went to a fashion show.

2413
02:06:25,720 --> 02:06:30,600
Speaker 2: She brought Northwest. North cried, she took North out, and

2414
02:06:30,800 --> 02:06:33,960
Speaker 2: people were like, she's a horrible mother, She shouldn't have

2415
02:06:33,960 --> 02:06:36,680
Speaker 2: never brought her baby there. What the fuck is wrong

2416
02:06:36,720 --> 02:06:39,440
Speaker 2: with her? She you know, this is abuse and all

2417
02:06:39,480 --> 02:06:44,440
Speaker 2: this shit. And I remember being like, dog, that's a baby.

2418
02:06:46,280 --> 02:06:53,040
Speaker 2: Baby's cry. A baby was a baby for ten minutes, cried,

2419
02:06:53,520 --> 02:06:57,040
Speaker 2: brought it right back. Everything was fine to watch her

2420
02:06:57,120 --> 02:07:04,160
Speaker 2: daddy's fashion shows. A baby. Babies cry at restaurants, babies

2421
02:07:04,160 --> 02:07:09,800
Speaker 2: crown planes, babies cry, and you motherfuckers hate this woman

2422
02:07:09,960 --> 02:07:14,080
Speaker 2: so much you can't understand that just a baby cry.

2423
02:07:14,200 --> 02:07:16,480
Speaker 2: And that's the end of It's not a national incident.

2424
02:07:17,120 --> 02:07:21,080
Speaker 2: It's not called don't call social services. Everything's fine, that

2425
02:07:21,120 --> 02:07:24,160
Speaker 2: baby will be fine. And there were people that wrote

2426
02:07:24,240 --> 02:07:25,640
Speaker 2: us long die Trial.

2427
02:07:25,720 --> 02:07:28,080
Speaker 4: I argue with us for fucking weeks. I will never

2428
02:07:28,120 --> 02:07:28,920
Speaker 4: forget that bullshit.

2429
02:07:29,040 --> 02:07:33,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that was us going Kim Kardashian Northwest and

2430
02:07:33,720 --> 02:07:36,320
Speaker 2: Kanye West. At the end of the day, are human

2431
02:07:36,360 --> 02:07:39,160
Speaker 2: beings the way we're human beings. And when someone brings

2432
02:07:39,200 --> 02:07:42,120
Speaker 2: a fucking baby in a movie theater, I don't lose.

2433
02:07:41,880 --> 02:07:45,160
Speaker 3: My shit like most people. That's because that's who I am.

2434
02:07:45,400 --> 02:07:46,680
Speaker 2: Rode Morrow impath.

2435
02:07:47,080 --> 02:07:49,640
Speaker 4: Now you can tell that we've been at places where

2436
02:07:49,720 --> 02:07:52,720
Speaker 4: you can tell the panic on the parents face because

2437
02:07:52,760 --> 02:07:55,160
Speaker 4: they think people are going to overreact, and I just

2438
02:07:55,240 --> 02:07:57,120
Speaker 4: smile and let them know it's all right.

2439
02:07:57,160 --> 02:07:59,400
Speaker 2: I don't know how many years ago that was, but

2440
02:07:59,480 --> 02:08:04,320
Speaker 2: I just remember just the days of like no and this,

2441
02:08:04,600 --> 02:08:06,320
Speaker 2: and I remember getting to the point like some of

2442
02:08:06,400 --> 02:08:09,240
Speaker 2: y'all just got issues around these the celebrities and stuff,

2443
02:08:09,280 --> 02:08:12,160
Speaker 2: and we're never gonna be that podcast for you, And

2444
02:08:12,200 --> 02:08:15,480
Speaker 2: there's plenty of podcasts willing to do that kind of

2445
02:08:15,520 --> 02:08:18,440
Speaker 2: shit for you. Rain and Raven, you wind me up,

2446
02:08:18,640 --> 02:08:22,200
Speaker 2: you pull the string, and I got you and go

2447
02:08:22,320 --> 02:08:24,720
Speaker 2: listen to them and God bless them very good at

2448
02:08:24,720 --> 02:08:26,560
Speaker 2: what they do. Yes, I don't want to beat them people.

2449
02:08:26,960 --> 02:08:29,400
Speaker 2: I would like to be myself, and myself is not

2450
02:08:29,520 --> 02:08:32,600
Speaker 2: one that wants to kill Kim Kardashian because of Baby Cried.

2451
02:08:33,240 --> 02:08:35,560
Speaker 2: So I would say we've been like this for a

2452
02:08:35,680 --> 02:08:41,560
Speaker 2: much longer time than way before any money period, we've

2453
02:08:41,600 --> 02:08:44,320
Speaker 2: been like, yeah, we're not the show for that right.

2454
02:08:44,360 --> 02:08:47,680
Speaker 4: And also to go back to what you were saying,

2455
02:08:48,840 --> 02:08:52,320
Speaker 4: because me and Roger kind of operate a little different,

2456
02:08:52,360 --> 02:08:54,920
Speaker 4: and because some of the things that we've dealt with

2457
02:08:55,000 --> 02:08:56,800
Speaker 4: and some of the troths that we've dealt with, some

2458
02:08:56,840 --> 02:08:59,680
Speaker 4: of the people that harassed us for fucking years, that

2459
02:08:59,720 --> 02:09:02,440
Speaker 4: we have never publicly said anything or called them out.

2460
02:09:02,480 --> 02:09:05,400
Speaker 4: Some people who have followed us had big as followings

2461
02:09:05,640 --> 02:09:09,120
Speaker 4: periodically with send their listeners at us, to fill up

2462
02:09:09,120 --> 02:09:12,080
Speaker 4: our timelines, to fill up our hashtags, to harass me

2463
02:09:12,400 --> 02:09:15,880
Speaker 4: and harass Roger across social media. We have never said

2464
02:09:15,920 --> 02:09:17,040
Speaker 4: anything about them.

2465
02:09:17,520 --> 02:09:18,800
Speaker 2: And that's a point.

2466
02:09:19,240 --> 02:09:22,680
Speaker 4: And and this is because we don't want to give

2467
02:09:22,720 --> 02:09:26,160
Speaker 4: them put like this people that are listening that put

2468
02:09:26,200 --> 02:09:29,560
Speaker 4: like this people. What I realized about podcasting, and I

2469
02:09:29,600 --> 02:09:31,680
Speaker 4: know we talk about social media on here a lot,

2470
02:09:31,760 --> 02:09:36,040
Speaker 4: you know, because we are online. There are more people

2471
02:09:36,360 --> 02:09:40,200
Speaker 4: not online than our online, and people that are online,

2472
02:09:40,200 --> 02:09:42,880
Speaker 4: they think online is every fucking thing, but it's not.

2473
02:09:43,640 --> 02:09:46,480
Speaker 4: More people have social media and barely use it, and

2474
02:09:46,520 --> 02:09:49,240
Speaker 4: they're not online. So when I listen to the black

2475
02:09:49,240 --> 02:09:51,920
Speaker 4: guy who tips an eye press play, I want to

2476
02:09:51,960 --> 02:09:54,320
Speaker 4: hear what Rod and Karen have to say about these

2477
02:09:54,480 --> 02:09:57,800
Speaker 4: very different things. I don't give a fuck about the

2478
02:09:57,840 --> 02:09:59,920
Speaker 4: person that's harassing them online. I don't give a fuck

2479
02:10:00,240 --> 02:10:03,240
Speaker 4: about these other things. I come to Rod and Karen

2480
02:10:03,440 --> 02:10:05,120
Speaker 4: to hear about what Rod and Karen had said about

2481
02:10:05,120 --> 02:10:08,120
Speaker 4: the topics of the day. So those people don't give

2482
02:10:08,120 --> 02:10:10,280
Speaker 4: a goddamn about a lot of this online social media

2483
02:10:10,280 --> 02:10:11,880
Speaker 4: and stuff. But some of them they're learning things for

2484
02:10:11,920 --> 02:10:14,120
Speaker 4: the right, you know what I mean, Like we're educating them,

2485
02:10:14,360 --> 02:10:17,080
Speaker 4: and we're teaching them about social media and about things

2486
02:10:17,120 --> 02:10:18,480
Speaker 4: that have happened to us. You have to go to

2487
02:10:18,520 --> 02:10:23,400
Speaker 4: real life experiences. That's that's completely different versus a confrontation

2488
02:10:24,040 --> 02:10:27,600
Speaker 4: that that may have happened that it's kind of outside

2489
02:10:27,680 --> 02:10:30,920
Speaker 4: of that. And so I'm keep you here because of that,

2490
02:10:31,680 --> 02:10:35,600
Speaker 4: and because I am not Roger's more patient than me.

2491
02:10:36,000 --> 02:10:39,000
Speaker 4: I don't have the patient to decipher who's controller who's not.

2492
02:10:39,000 --> 02:10:41,680
Speaker 4: The troll words means thinks you say something, you meant it,

2493
02:10:41,800 --> 02:10:44,240
Speaker 4: So I'm like, okay, well, then I got to go, like,

2494
02:10:44,640 --> 02:10:47,080
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna have a conversation with you to find

2495
02:10:47,080 --> 02:10:49,200
Speaker 4: out if you're trolling me, if you're not trolling me,

2496
02:10:49,240 --> 02:10:51,200
Speaker 4: if you were sincere, if you're not sincere. I don't

2497
02:10:51,200 --> 02:10:53,400
Speaker 4: have the patience for that. You said it, you meant

2498
02:10:53,400 --> 02:10:57,000
Speaker 4: it the end, and I understand that that that's not realistic,

2499
02:10:57,120 --> 02:10:59,360
Speaker 4: but that's how I function in your life, you know.

2500
02:10:59,600 --> 02:11:02,200
Speaker 4: So I don't have the time to decipher and decode

2501
02:11:02,280 --> 02:11:04,520
Speaker 4: and figure out what the fuck y'all talking about online.

2502
02:11:04,680 --> 02:11:07,200
Speaker 4: So I'm like, okay, where's me things? You come at

2503
02:11:07,200 --> 02:11:10,320
Speaker 4: me on ten. I don't have the fuck to decipher

2504
02:11:10,400 --> 02:11:13,840
Speaker 4: things when it comes to that you're coming at me

2505
02:11:13,920 --> 02:11:15,800
Speaker 4: at ten, And like I said, where's me things? And

2506
02:11:15,840 --> 02:11:17,360
Speaker 4: it's how my brain ticks.

2507
02:11:17,480 --> 02:11:20,320
Speaker 2: Well, the thing for me that you really hit upon

2508
02:11:20,960 --> 02:11:23,560
Speaker 2: was we've been on the other side of it, which

2509
02:11:23,640 --> 02:11:27,600
Speaker 2: y'all haven't always seen. So y'all don't know what it's

2510
02:11:27,760 --> 02:11:30,200
Speaker 2: like for the most part because y'all don't do what

2511
02:11:30,240 --> 02:11:35,000
Speaker 2: we do or you're not just that level of attention yet,

2512
02:11:35,120 --> 02:11:37,640
Speaker 2: which hopefully you know, people do get there. I'm rooting

2513
02:11:37,680 --> 02:11:41,600
Speaker 2: for everybody, but uh, if you haven't been there, you

2514
02:11:41,640 --> 02:11:45,440
Speaker 2: don't really understand why somebody would go, y'all are tripping

2515
02:11:45,480 --> 02:11:48,640
Speaker 2: on Chris Pratt because you never been tripped on, you know,

2516
02:11:48,800 --> 02:11:50,720
Speaker 2: at a level where a lot of people that don't

2517
02:11:50,720 --> 02:11:52,680
Speaker 2: know you are saying some wild shit about you. That's

2518
02:11:52,720 --> 02:11:55,360
Speaker 2: not true. I've had that happen more than once. I've

2519
02:11:55,400 --> 02:11:58,120
Speaker 2: had that happen with Bernie so Black, had that happen

2520
02:11:58,160 --> 02:12:01,720
Speaker 2: with that tweet about Black, and I still have people

2521
02:12:01,720 --> 02:12:04,320
Speaker 2: that mad about that. I said that shit. It's not

2522
02:12:04,360 --> 02:12:07,840
Speaker 2: that I don't feel that way. I just go, yeah,

2523
02:12:08,240 --> 02:12:10,440
Speaker 2: niggas are not ready to hear that. And I've it

2524
02:12:10,520 --> 02:12:12,920
Speaker 2: caused me a lot of strife, people talking about my niece,

2525
02:12:13,440 --> 02:12:18,280
Speaker 2: people harassing me for weeks. You know, no one ever

2526
02:12:18,280 --> 02:12:19,960
Speaker 2: talks about that part of it. They just go, he

2527
02:12:19,960 --> 02:12:22,520
Speaker 2: shouldn't have said it. They never go, well, damn, they

2528
02:12:22,520 --> 02:12:25,080
Speaker 2: really shouldn't have acted that way. And I wonder where

2529
02:12:25,160 --> 02:12:27,280
Speaker 2: Ryan went through when that happened. They don't give a

2530
02:12:27,320 --> 02:12:29,240
Speaker 2: fuck about me in that way, you know what I mean?

2531
02:12:29,960 --> 02:12:33,560
Speaker 2: And so and because I don't just talk about it

2532
02:12:33,600 --> 02:12:35,800
Speaker 2: and go woe is me. I'm a victim every day.

2533
02:12:36,840 --> 02:12:40,480
Speaker 2: It's easy for people to forget that that happened and

2534
02:12:40,520 --> 02:12:44,120
Speaker 2: that I've been on the other side. And when you

2535
02:12:44,200 --> 02:12:49,960
Speaker 2: see somebody's on the other side, two part of you goes, well,

2536
02:12:50,560 --> 02:12:54,880
Speaker 2: I know what that's like, what was the situation? Because

2537
02:12:55,320 --> 02:12:57,800
Speaker 2: there's a situation where you kind of covet that and

2538
02:12:57,840 --> 02:13:00,160
Speaker 2: that's what you want, where it's Candae Owens or some

2539
02:13:00,840 --> 02:13:04,400
Speaker 2: online troll, and then there's people where you're like, yeah,

2540
02:13:04,440 --> 02:13:07,200
Speaker 2: they were just expressing themselves in y'all. Like when Dave

2541
02:13:07,280 --> 02:13:09,640
Speaker 2: Chappelle stands on a stage and says, I want to

2542
02:13:09,640 --> 02:13:11,880
Speaker 2: pits y'all off, and he gets a response, and people

2543
02:13:11,920 --> 02:13:15,360
Speaker 2: defend that more than they defend somebody who's just living

2544
02:13:15,360 --> 02:13:18,840
Speaker 2: their life and people came at them. That's a tall

2545
02:13:19,000 --> 02:13:21,440
Speaker 2: that's a dead giveaway, because that's how people really be

2546
02:13:21,440 --> 02:13:24,800
Speaker 2: feeling on the inside. Like it's about teams and shit,

2547
02:13:24,880 --> 02:13:28,080
Speaker 2: and it's not really about that I'm not team. I'm

2548
02:13:28,120 --> 02:13:32,560
Speaker 2: not that I'm I'm the only team I am is

2549
02:13:32,680 --> 02:13:37,320
Speaker 2: fairness and so yeah, Travis Scott, Chris Pratt, whatever else,

2550
02:13:37,440 --> 02:13:41,440
Speaker 2: Taylor Swift, Kim Carr. We talk about fairness here, and

2551
02:13:41,480 --> 02:13:45,720
Speaker 2: I don't want to join nobody's fucking hive or hate group.

2552
02:13:45,760 --> 02:13:47,200
Speaker 2: I don't want to be in any of it. If

2553
02:13:47,240 --> 02:13:49,720
Speaker 2: I can't come have positive feelings out of it, I'm out.

2554
02:13:50,040 --> 02:13:52,240
Speaker 2: So yeah, a lot of people haven't seen that part,

2555
02:13:52,280 --> 02:13:55,600
Speaker 2: but that happened a long time ago. We had people that,

2556
02:13:56,240 --> 02:13:59,280
Speaker 2: you know, stop fucking with us. We've had people that

2557
02:13:59,600 --> 02:14:05,240
Speaker 2: have fucked with us on with surreptitious motives, falling out

2558
02:14:05,240 --> 02:14:07,480
Speaker 2: with folks behind the scenes. Y'all never heard about it.

2559
02:14:07,600 --> 02:14:10,360
Speaker 2: Y'all never hopefully never will As long as they leave

2560
02:14:10,440 --> 02:14:12,200
Speaker 2: us the fuck out of their life, will we will

2561
02:14:12,280 --> 02:14:14,840
Speaker 2: leave them the fuck out of ours. But y'all have

2562
02:14:15,440 --> 02:14:18,720
Speaker 2: not been privy to everything. But those things do change people.

2563
02:14:19,120 --> 02:14:21,120
Speaker 2: And a lot of that comes with attention, and a

2564
02:14:21,120 --> 02:14:24,280
Speaker 2: lot of comes with that with being dope and people

2565
02:14:24,360 --> 02:14:27,000
Speaker 2: feeling like I need to get down. Whether it's out

2566
02:14:27,000 --> 02:14:32,200
Speaker 2: of jealousy, competition, out of hate, out of envy, or

2567
02:14:32,320 --> 02:14:35,160
Speaker 2: out of love, it's all be bad more it's been

2568
02:14:35,160 --> 02:14:37,480
Speaker 2: more good than bad for us. But just because we

2569
02:14:37,480 --> 02:14:39,960
Speaker 2: don't talk about the bad don't mean the bad didn't happen.

2570
02:14:40,400 --> 02:14:43,120
Speaker 2: And the harassment and all that type of shit didn't happen.

2571
02:14:43,200 --> 02:14:45,560
Speaker 2: So when you see us against that kind of shit,

2572
02:14:45,720 --> 02:14:49,040
Speaker 2: understand we don't just it's not about just changing because

2573
02:14:49,080 --> 02:14:52,120
Speaker 2: of Spotify. We change because we live in life and

2574
02:14:52,160 --> 02:14:55,880
Speaker 2: we singing more perspectives. And I think you recognize that,

2575
02:14:55,920 --> 02:14:57,880
Speaker 2: and I think other people will recognize that when they

2576
02:14:57,960 --> 02:14:58,800
Speaker 2: hear us talk about this.

2577
02:15:00,560 --> 02:15:03,920
Speaker 4: Agreed. And it's also you know, over the years of

2578
02:15:04,000 --> 02:15:07,280
Speaker 4: us being online because me and Roger are very we're

2579
02:15:07,400 --> 02:15:12,680
Speaker 4: very watchful people, and so we see how people treat

2580
02:15:12,760 --> 02:15:16,040
Speaker 4: celebrities online, like like, we see this as people, and

2581
02:15:16,120 --> 02:15:18,880
Speaker 4: we've seen people who will not turning funny well quote

2582
02:15:18,920 --> 02:15:22,480
Speaker 4: unquote nobody's to becoming somebody. And we've seen over the

2583
02:15:22,560 --> 02:15:26,320
Speaker 4: years how they've grown and how they're evolved, and how

2584
02:15:26,360 --> 02:15:29,520
Speaker 4: they handle things good or bad on social media. We've

2585
02:15:29,520 --> 02:15:32,920
Speaker 4: seen the fallouts. We see these things what happen, and

2586
02:15:33,040 --> 02:15:35,440
Speaker 4: most people will never be on the receiving end, so

2587
02:15:35,520 --> 02:15:37,680
Speaker 4: they don't pay that shit no attention and they go,

2588
02:15:37,800 --> 02:15:40,200
Speaker 4: will fuck it. It'll never happen to me. So it

2589
02:15:40,320 --> 02:15:42,920
Speaker 4: is okay if I paal on, it is okay if

2590
02:15:42,960 --> 02:15:45,960
Speaker 4: I join in, because nobody gives a fuck about me

2591
02:15:46,160 --> 02:15:48,320
Speaker 4: or my opinion or what I got to say online.

2592
02:15:48,400 --> 02:15:51,440
Speaker 4: So it's okay to call them bitches and holes and

2593
02:15:51,480 --> 02:15:54,360
Speaker 4: call them out their names because everybody fails to realize

2594
02:15:54,600 --> 02:15:56,680
Speaker 4: what people never do. And I will always say this,

2595
02:15:56,840 --> 02:16:00,360
Speaker 4: nobody ever looks at the replies. When somebody fame comes

2596
02:16:00,360 --> 02:16:03,200
Speaker 4: out and says some wild shit sometimes online, nobody ever

2597
02:16:03,240 --> 02:16:05,880
Speaker 4: looks at the replies. Everybody always act like they're just

2598
02:16:05,960 --> 02:16:09,280
Speaker 4: wrong for saying shit, but nobody sees the foul, fucked

2599
02:16:09,320 --> 02:16:11,280
Speaker 4: up shit and how people come at them crazy.

2600
02:16:11,400 --> 02:16:15,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've read more about that kind of shit and

2601
02:16:15,280 --> 02:16:20,120
Speaker 2: I've just noticed more. I still remember, like how people

2602
02:16:20,160 --> 02:16:23,280
Speaker 2: would do Lena Dunam, where she would fuck up righteously

2603
02:16:23,320 --> 02:16:26,480
Speaker 2: so and she would deservedly get some pushback. But within

2604
02:16:26,520 --> 02:16:30,480
Speaker 2: that pushback there's things people say, people that claim to

2605
02:16:30,480 --> 02:16:33,520
Speaker 2: be righteous by the way, that go against everything those

2606
02:16:33,560 --> 02:16:36,400
Speaker 2: people claim to believe. And to me, that's the real you.

2607
02:16:37,280 --> 02:16:40,120
Speaker 2: And you're looking for an avatar to be mean, And

2608
02:16:40,160 --> 02:16:42,360
Speaker 2: this is my place where I get to be mean.

2609
02:16:42,520 --> 02:16:47,200
Speaker 2: My real self is mean, uncharitable, unkind, and I get

2610
02:16:47,200 --> 02:16:49,680
Speaker 2: to be that now. I have permission to be that

2611
02:16:49,720 --> 02:16:52,520
Speaker 2: because you fucked up, And once I get the high

2612
02:16:52,600 --> 02:16:55,280
Speaker 2: of that feeling, I now need to find everyone's fuck

2613
02:16:55,360 --> 02:16:57,440
Speaker 2: up so I can do it to everyone as many

2614
02:16:57,480 --> 02:17:00,600
Speaker 2: times as I like being here. It makes me feel powerful.

2615
02:17:00,640 --> 02:17:03,920
Speaker 2: And you know that that I changed the way we

2616
02:17:03,920 --> 02:17:07,200
Speaker 2: did the show before Spotify. You know that was shit,

2617
02:17:07,360 --> 02:17:08,840
Speaker 2: Like we used to cover stuff in the Me Too

2618
02:17:08,879 --> 02:17:12,680
Speaker 2: movement that was just accusation level. It wasn't even nothing

2619
02:17:12,760 --> 02:17:14,840
Speaker 2: was proven, there's no evidence yet, and we'd be like, oh,

2620
02:17:14,879 --> 02:17:16,520
Speaker 2: this motherfucker right here, And I was like, I can't

2621
02:17:16,560 --> 02:17:19,400
Speaker 2: do that because it's not right, because when the retraction come,

2622
02:17:19,440 --> 02:17:21,879
Speaker 2: it never gonna be the same. And there were times

2623
02:17:21,879 --> 02:17:24,600
Speaker 2: where people were literally proven to be liars or targeted

2624
02:17:24,680 --> 02:17:28,880
Speaker 2: or harassed, and it wasn't the same energy of hey man,

2625
02:17:29,080 --> 02:17:32,280
Speaker 2: you know my bad or I guess it did turn

2626
02:17:32,320 --> 02:17:34,880
Speaker 2: out he didn't do it. Oh well, nah, nigga, I

2627
02:17:35,440 --> 02:17:37,680
Speaker 2: shouldn't have been talking about in the first fucking place.

2628
02:17:37,879 --> 02:17:39,560
Speaker 2: I should have waited till there was some time to

2629
02:17:39,600 --> 02:17:42,840
Speaker 2: talk about this whatever was some actual corroborated evidence and

2630
02:17:42,879 --> 02:17:46,720
Speaker 2: some investigative things done. You know, I'm not the police.

2631
02:17:46,800 --> 02:17:50,480
Speaker 2: I'm just a nigga with a podcast. You know. Stuff

2632
02:17:50,520 --> 02:17:52,400
Speaker 2: like that that really changed the way I view things,

2633
02:17:52,440 --> 02:17:54,560
Speaker 2: and so hopefully, yeah, like I said, hopefully the show.

2634
02:17:54,440 --> 02:17:56,960
Speaker 3: Did change for you and go ahead.

2635
02:17:56,959 --> 02:18:00,400
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, Yeah, and I'm glad that you know, you

2636
02:18:00,440 --> 02:18:03,040
Speaker 4: wrote it and you were very positive, you know, about it,

2637
02:18:03,080 --> 02:18:06,120
Speaker 4: so it's a very positive interaction. But yeah, like I said,

2638
02:18:06,160 --> 02:18:09,280
Speaker 4: because you know, we've been on the receiving end of that,

2639
02:18:09,320 --> 02:18:13,040
Speaker 4: and because for certain things, I have very strong emotional

2640
02:18:13,080 --> 02:18:16,440
Speaker 4: feelings about that, you know, and I'm not gonna lie.

2641
02:18:16,480 --> 02:18:19,119
Speaker 4: I'm very sensitive about, you know, certain things and how

2642
02:18:19,120 --> 02:18:23,080
Speaker 4: it goes online. They are very touchy subjects to me personally.

2643
02:18:24,040 --> 02:18:26,440
Speaker 4: Because you know, there were things about that happened in Rochester.

2644
02:18:26,560 --> 02:18:27,760
Speaker 4: I took that shit personally.

2645
02:18:28,160 --> 02:18:28,400
Speaker 2: You know.

2646
02:18:28,600 --> 02:18:30,920
Speaker 4: I was like, oh, I will fight all y'all motherfuckers.

2647
02:18:31,160 --> 02:18:34,440
Speaker 4: You know, That's how I was feeling that to turn.

2648
02:18:34,440 --> 02:18:36,960
Speaker 2: And there's been things that have been said about Karen,

2649
02:18:37,120 --> 02:18:40,440
Speaker 2: either to go to get me or things they've said

2650
02:18:40,560 --> 02:18:43,080
Speaker 2: to get at Karen or to demean our show. And

2651
02:18:44,080 --> 02:18:46,360
Speaker 2: you know, I try to be honest about that when

2652
02:18:46,360 --> 02:18:51,039
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm not gonna be reasonable and rational, so

2653
02:18:51,160 --> 02:18:54,680
Speaker 2: you gonna get what the fuck you get, So thinkful

2654
02:18:54,680 --> 02:18:57,080
Speaker 2: before you say anything, you know what I'm saying. So like,

2655
02:18:57,959 --> 02:19:00,240
Speaker 2: but I know myself well, enough to be like, yeah,

2656
02:19:00,240 --> 02:19:03,200
Speaker 2: I'm compromised, so don't do that, you know what I mean?

2657
02:19:04,200 --> 02:19:06,480
Speaker 2: And I won't entertain that, and I'll try to squash

2658
02:19:06,520 --> 02:19:08,120
Speaker 2: all that down, but there's certain you know, I'll just

2659
02:19:08,160 --> 02:19:10,320
Speaker 2: try to be honest about it. That's when we're still

2660
02:19:10,360 --> 02:19:14,000
Speaker 2: a human husband and wife couple making a show. We're

2661
02:19:14,040 --> 02:19:17,680
Speaker 2: not a you know, we're not machine. So all right,

2662
02:19:17,720 --> 02:19:20,400
Speaker 2: we gotta get into these emails. We got quite a few.

2663
02:19:20,720 --> 02:19:23,760
Speaker 2: Problem It's gonna be a very long show and we'll

2664
02:19:23,760 --> 02:19:25,879
Speaker 2: probably end up taking a couple of days off this

2665
02:19:25,920 --> 02:19:30,360
Speaker 2: week again. Episode twenty four forty three Nigga Sectionality from

2666
02:19:30,360 --> 02:19:33,119
Speaker 2: Angela Hey, Ran, Karen RD and Karen Hey that rody Karen.

2667
02:19:33,360 --> 02:19:35,680
Speaker 2: I enjoyed this episode. I mensely. Boy did Jordan Nalysis

2668
02:19:35,720 --> 02:19:37,720
Speaker 2: get to the hardest issue. We could discuss this topic

2669
02:19:37,720 --> 02:19:40,280
Speaker 2: for weeks. It's definitely the American way to try to

2670
02:19:40,280 --> 02:19:42,800
Speaker 2: push our way to power by crapping on someone else

2671
02:19:42,800 --> 02:19:46,600
Speaker 2: whose society at large considers to be less than the Chappelle.

2672
02:19:46,680 --> 02:19:48,800
Speaker 2: Things sickens me. And I've encountered some black women who

2673
02:19:48,840 --> 02:19:51,440
Speaker 2: are steeped in the Black church parroting this love to

2674
02:19:51,440 --> 02:19:54,160
Speaker 2: send and not to send argument while also proclaiming they

2675
02:19:54,200 --> 02:19:57,520
Speaker 2: are at the judge of people. Yeah. Man, that's really

2676
02:19:58,160 --> 02:20:02,080
Speaker 2: the sad part for me is Chappelle's stance is very

2677
02:20:02,160 --> 02:20:04,160
Speaker 2: much the same as love the sin and not the sin,

2678
02:20:05,600 --> 02:20:07,600
Speaker 2: because he is like, I am going to mock your

2679
02:20:07,600 --> 02:20:10,520
Speaker 2: existence as a trans person, but hey, I'm a good guy.

2680
02:20:10,560 --> 02:20:12,320
Speaker 2: I'm on your side. I'm doing it out of love

2681
02:20:12,920 --> 02:20:15,240
Speaker 2: and I'm sorry. They don't feel like love to me.

2682
02:20:16,400 --> 02:20:19,120
Speaker 2: And if that, I don't believe them. I honestly just

2683
02:20:19,160 --> 02:20:21,800
Speaker 2: don't believe them. And he's gone so far with it

2684
02:20:21,840 --> 02:20:25,680
Speaker 2: after what five six specials. I believe. I believe he

2685
02:20:25,920 --> 02:20:27,879
Speaker 2: is who he says he is when he talks about

2686
02:20:27,920 --> 02:20:31,840
Speaker 2: these things, and people ignore it because they want to

2687
02:20:31,840 --> 02:20:32,680
Speaker 2: have Dave.

2688
02:20:33,640 --> 02:20:35,360
Speaker 3: They want to have them. They don't want to give

2689
02:20:35,400 --> 02:20:35,800
Speaker 3: them up.

2690
02:20:35,959 --> 02:20:38,680
Speaker 2: And it's the same way that those black women that

2691
02:20:38,720 --> 02:20:40,720
Speaker 2: will tell you that r Kelly did nothing wrong. Those

2692
02:20:40,760 --> 02:20:43,920
Speaker 2: women were fast. They have to believe that because if not,

2693
02:20:44,000 --> 02:20:46,120
Speaker 2: then they got to accept this motherfucker is the monster.

2694
02:20:46,200 --> 02:20:49,680
Speaker 2: They say is like the races. They get upset, and

2695
02:20:49,760 --> 02:20:51,920
Speaker 2: that's just a Comparison'm not saying they the same, don't

2696
02:20:51,959 --> 02:20:55,119
Speaker 2: you stupid motherfucker's right in about that like the races

2697
02:20:55,120 --> 02:20:57,520
Speaker 2: they get upset with. They are often quite loud or rational.

2698
02:20:57,680 --> 02:21:00,480
Speaker 2: Bullying on their position is the stomach churning that they

2699
02:21:00,720 --> 02:21:03,520
Speaker 2: refuse to see how the same language is used against us.

2700
02:21:03,640 --> 02:21:06,280
Speaker 2: Racists used to say, and I believe this thought still

2701
02:21:06,320 --> 02:21:09,120
Speaker 2: permeates American society, that black skin is a sin, a

2702
02:21:09,280 --> 02:21:12,000
Speaker 2: natural and a curse and less than that, less than

2703
02:21:12,200 --> 02:21:14,600
Speaker 2: just like they say, being a part of LGBTQ community

2704
02:21:14,640 --> 02:21:17,520
Speaker 2: is a sin of natural et cetera. Their stance is stupid,

2705
02:21:17,560 --> 02:21:20,160
Speaker 2: it secure self, is shortsighted and cruel. There's often no

2706
02:21:20,280 --> 02:21:23,640
Speaker 2: talking with them without causing further harming yourself. Have had

2707
02:21:23,680 --> 02:21:26,879
Speaker 2: friends who end up relinquishing contact with folks like them,

2708
02:21:26,920 --> 02:21:29,920
Speaker 2: temporarily or permanently, which can be painful to in order

2709
02:21:29,920 --> 02:21:33,039
Speaker 2: to preserve their own mental health. Yeah. I don't blame people,

2710
02:21:33,120 --> 02:21:36,160
Speaker 2: and honestly, dog I wouldn't. I don't blame no trans

2711
02:21:36,160 --> 02:21:39,120
Speaker 2: person that don't want to talk about this shit. If

2712
02:21:39,200 --> 02:21:42,040
Speaker 2: y'all notice, when we have people on the show, we

2713
02:21:42,160 --> 02:21:45,080
Speaker 2: just do the same show normally, but even if, like

2714
02:21:45,120 --> 02:21:47,920
Speaker 2: if someone's LGBTQ on the show, we don't do the

2715
02:21:48,600 --> 02:21:52,640
Speaker 2: Hey educate us about lgbt Hey what you think about

2716
02:21:52,640 --> 02:21:55,320
Speaker 2: this transphobia shit? You know? Can you like? You know?

2717
02:21:56,040 --> 02:21:58,680
Speaker 2: And it's not that I wouldn't entertain that or where

2718
02:21:58,720 --> 02:22:01,240
Speaker 2: somebody said I specifically want to talk about that, right.

2719
02:22:01,400 --> 02:22:03,280
Speaker 2: It's not that I would be against it anything, but

2720
02:22:03,360 --> 02:22:06,840
Speaker 2: I just don't understand this thing of like I think

2721
02:22:07,240 --> 02:22:11,240
Speaker 2: humanity and humanizing people and seeing each other as human

2722
02:22:11,400 --> 02:22:15,720
Speaker 2: is just existing and interacting with each other as equals

2723
02:22:15,760 --> 02:22:18,280
Speaker 2: and not how they do like black people when something

2724
02:22:18,360 --> 02:22:20,280
Speaker 2: racist happens in sport and they gotta call a black

2725
02:22:20,320 --> 02:22:23,640
Speaker 2: person like, hey, what you think about this racism? Well,

2726
02:22:23,680 --> 02:22:26,760
Speaker 2: what the fuck do you think? Cause you be the

2727
02:22:26,800 --> 02:22:29,520
Speaker 2: one on the show every day. This ain't no special

2728
02:22:29,560 --> 02:22:32,000
Speaker 2: topic where you can't talk about it. You talk about

2729
02:22:32,040 --> 02:22:34,480
Speaker 2: all this other shit you ain't experienced. Why you got

2730
02:22:34,480 --> 02:22:36,640
Speaker 2: a phone or black for this? You know what I'm saying.

2731
02:22:37,160 --> 02:22:39,600
Speaker 2: And so I think that is also a part of

2732
02:22:39,640 --> 02:22:42,200
Speaker 2: it where if people gotta cut people off of their

2733
02:22:42,240 --> 02:22:45,080
Speaker 2: own mental health do it. I don't blame you. I

2734
02:22:45,080 --> 02:22:47,960
Speaker 2: ain't arguing with these niggas either, Like that's another reason

2735
02:22:48,000 --> 02:22:49,360
Speaker 2: I tell people I don't paying there and I'm not

2736
02:22:49,400 --> 02:22:52,360
Speaker 2: being patronizing. I would lie to y'all have ills out here.

2737
02:22:52,400 --> 02:22:54,959
Speaker 2: Like every day I tell a black man, no the

2738
02:22:55,040 --> 02:22:57,240
Speaker 2: fuck I don't. Sometimes niggas do some shit and I

2739
02:22:57,360 --> 02:22:59,680
Speaker 2: just be like, you know, I'm not responding. That ain't funny.

2740
02:23:00,000 --> 02:23:03,800
Speaker 2: Wanna talk about it? I just you know, I disagree, Well,

2741
02:23:03,840 --> 02:23:06,800
Speaker 2: what's wrong? We're saying? Hey, you know what, bro, I'm good.

2742
02:23:09,520 --> 02:23:11,600
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying like I'm not even saying

2743
02:23:11,600 --> 02:23:13,640
Speaker 2: it on something. And then I leave the room and

2744
02:23:13,720 --> 02:23:16,039
Speaker 2: I say, I never talked to this nigga in my life.

2745
02:23:16,200 --> 02:23:18,720
Speaker 2: It really just be like, hey, man, so I can't

2746
02:23:18,720 --> 02:23:20,920
Speaker 2: say female, what's wrong with female? A bro? You just

2747
02:23:20,920 --> 02:23:24,240
Speaker 2: should look into that anyway. So you watched the game

2748
02:23:24,320 --> 02:23:25,920
Speaker 2: last night and not you know what I mean? Like,

2749
02:23:25,959 --> 02:23:26,959
Speaker 2: what the fuck is?

2750
02:23:27,640 --> 02:23:31,080
Speaker 3: It's not everything, not a teachable moment. This ain't reading Rainbow.

2751
02:23:31,200 --> 02:23:32,039
Speaker 3: You don't give a fuck.

2752
02:23:32,320 --> 02:23:34,360
Speaker 2: You done made it this many years not giving a fuck.

2753
02:23:34,440 --> 02:23:37,240
Speaker 2: I won't be the one, and I'm not a narcissist

2754
02:23:37,320 --> 02:23:39,160
Speaker 2: enough to think I'm the one. I also don't think.

2755
02:23:39,720 --> 02:23:43,200
Speaker 2: I also don't do that hero shit like I'm the

2756
02:23:43,280 --> 02:23:45,600
Speaker 2: black man who teaches the black man. I'm not that

2757
02:23:45,720 --> 02:23:48,199
Speaker 2: nigga either. That so many people want to be that nigga,

2758
02:23:48,520 --> 02:23:51,320
Speaker 2: make that money, get that bread. And I can never

2759
02:23:51,360 --> 02:23:53,880
Speaker 2: tell hustle from real within them niggas, And I don't

2760
02:23:53,879 --> 02:23:55,800
Speaker 2: want to be one of them niggas. No, I don't

2761
02:23:55,800 --> 02:23:59,800
Speaker 2: make I make zero dollars off of being like this

2762
02:23:59,879 --> 02:24:03,640
Speaker 2: is my opinion, and I make zero dollars educating or

2763
02:24:04,040 --> 02:24:06,600
Speaker 2: holding classes or any of that shit. It's just does

2764
02:24:06,640 --> 02:24:09,039
Speaker 2: my opinion? Take it to leave it. You're probably gonna

2765
02:24:09,120 --> 02:24:13,360
Speaker 2: leave it, but fuck it. The topics and the topic

2766
02:24:13,360 --> 02:24:15,120
Speaker 2: intersections is the ply to white moderists and how they

2767
02:24:15,120 --> 02:24:17,000
Speaker 2: approach their racist love ones to friends. I had some

2768
02:24:17,080 --> 02:24:20,120
Speaker 2: friends who described sitting stupefied, not knowing what to do

2769
02:24:20,560 --> 02:24:23,840
Speaker 2: when the loved one, when their loved ones starts spouting off.

2770
02:24:23,959 --> 02:24:27,480
Speaker 2: No shade in the word stupefied. They really are sitting

2771
02:24:27,480 --> 02:24:30,119
Speaker 2: to a physical mental paralysis by cruelty of their family member.

2772
02:24:30,160 --> 02:24:32,920
Speaker 2: We feel racism in our bodies. You may have already

2773
02:24:33,080 --> 02:24:37,800
Speaker 2: heard and might like the work of resum monicing manachem

2774
02:24:38,400 --> 02:24:41,440
Speaker 2: meniqem okay resume. No, this is my first time hearing

2775
02:24:41,440 --> 02:24:45,360
Speaker 2: about this person who talks about white body supremacy, somatic abolitionism,

2776
02:24:45,800 --> 02:24:48,320
Speaker 2: and healing racial trauma through body psychology. And a couple

2777
02:24:48,360 --> 02:24:51,280
Speaker 2: of YouTube links. The Meati part starts around three minutes

2778
02:24:51,320 --> 02:24:54,720
Speaker 2: for the second video, he keeps things quite real anyway.

2779
02:24:54,760 --> 02:24:58,400
Speaker 2: Another white friend flat out said followed through that they

2780
02:24:58,400 --> 02:25:00,600
Speaker 2: weren't bringing the grandkids around as long the mom was

2781
02:25:00,640 --> 02:25:03,160
Speaker 2: spouting racist crap and they were telling the kids why

2782
02:25:03,200 --> 02:25:06,240
Speaker 2: they weren't seeing grandma. I think what I desire is

2783
02:25:06,280 --> 02:25:09,879
Speaker 2: an auto authentic attempt of pushback by white folks. It

2784
02:25:09,959 --> 02:25:12,280
Speaker 2: may not work, but at least they try and the

2785
02:25:12,360 --> 02:25:14,720
Speaker 2: racist is put on some kind of notice. Like my

2786
02:25:14,760 --> 02:25:17,520
Speaker 2: mom says, the discussion doesn't have to be pithy or perfect.

2787
02:25:17,760 --> 02:25:20,360
Speaker 2: It's a hard process. I would never suggest that white

2788
02:25:20,360 --> 02:25:22,560
Speaker 2: folks put themselves in a position of physical harm from

2789
02:25:22,600 --> 02:25:25,880
Speaker 2: their family defending our humanity, even though some have and do.

2790
02:25:26,160 --> 02:25:28,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, you read about them nightmares. Shit, it's about time.

2791
02:25:29,959 --> 02:25:33,119
Speaker 2: Shit, we about two weeks away from that at least

2792
02:25:33,120 --> 02:25:35,440
Speaker 2: one or two white people getting killed over some politics

2793
02:25:35,440 --> 02:25:39,480
Speaker 2: this Thanksgiving, because that shit gonna happen clockwork.

2794
02:25:40,120 --> 02:25:41,640
Speaker 4: I'll get back COVID and some shit.

2795
02:25:41,560 --> 02:25:43,440
Speaker 2: May be like them. Niggas are people. They got pa.

2796
02:25:44,440 --> 02:25:47,000
Speaker 3: Don't you dare talk to me that white boy was crazy.

2797
02:25:47,040 --> 02:25:48,720
Speaker 4: You better take that goddamn mask off for you come

2798
02:25:48,760 --> 02:25:50,560
Speaker 4: in this house and it's all here gonna break loose.

2799
02:25:50,640 --> 02:25:52,879
Speaker 2: I raised them and fed them. He talking about Black

2800
02:25:52,920 --> 02:25:55,720
Speaker 2: Lives matter. I shot the all out of them.

2801
02:25:55,800 --> 02:25:58,520
Speaker 4: I'm on TikTok right, y'all falling out over stuff and

2802
02:25:58,600 --> 02:25:59,840
Speaker 4: not even dressing stuff, And.

2803
02:26:00,080 --> 02:26:02,520
Speaker 2: I don't know what no ticketed talk is. Talk to

2804
02:26:02,560 --> 02:26:05,560
Speaker 2: me crazy. At the same time, it's interesting that some

2805
02:26:05,560 --> 02:26:07,640
Speaker 2: folks don't see the racist bullying by the relatives and

2806
02:26:07,680 --> 02:26:09,360
Speaker 2: friends of emotional abuse and trauma that.

2807
02:26:09,280 --> 02:26:11,000
Speaker 3: Maybe they shouldn't be subjected to either.

2808
02:26:11,440 --> 02:26:13,560
Speaker 2: Kudos to the white folks out there getting un comfortable

2809
02:26:13,600 --> 02:26:16,640
Speaker 2: putting into work dealing with these races. Yeah, I also

2810
02:26:16,680 --> 02:26:19,200
Speaker 2: think it makes black people genuine, like we get the

2811
02:26:19,240 --> 02:26:22,760
Speaker 2: genuflect online and look powerful and militant when we say

2812
02:26:22,800 --> 02:26:25,000
Speaker 2: shit like you know how much.

2813
02:26:24,920 --> 02:26:27,640
Speaker 3: We don't care about white people and they better be that.

2814
02:26:27,760 --> 02:26:29,959
Speaker 2: You don't get no cookie. You need to be slapping

2815
02:26:29,959 --> 02:26:33,080
Speaker 2: your grandma. And it's always like to me, you sound

2816
02:26:33,240 --> 02:26:37,240
Speaker 2: so fake. You just sound so fake and performative when

2817
02:26:37,280 --> 02:26:39,960
Speaker 2: you do that, cause I'm like, you, you don't do that.

2818
02:26:40,040 --> 02:26:42,520
Speaker 2: What are you talking about? Like this? It's like when

2819
02:26:42,560 --> 02:26:45,120
Speaker 2: people say stuff like black people don't need no diversity training.

2820
02:26:45,320 --> 02:26:49,640
Speaker 2: Like they don't need no diversity training on being black. Okay,

2821
02:26:50,000 --> 02:26:53,320
Speaker 2: that's not what diversity training is. It's a lot of

2822
02:26:53,400 --> 02:26:55,320
Speaker 2: shit that happens at diversity training. Got nothing to do

2823
02:26:55,400 --> 02:26:58,400
Speaker 2: with being black, and niggas do need that because they're

2824
02:26:58,480 --> 02:27:03,599
Speaker 2: human and everyone is condition. So you could be massiding this, transphobic, homophobic,

2825
02:27:05,520 --> 02:27:08,640
Speaker 2: sexually harassing, you could be a lot of shit that

2826
02:27:08,720 --> 02:27:11,200
Speaker 2: needs training. You could be and yes you're black, but

2827
02:27:11,240 --> 02:27:13,760
Speaker 2: you don't also need to learn this shit. And I

2828
02:27:13,800 --> 02:27:17,040
Speaker 2: think that's that kind of weird, like blackness is perfect,

2829
02:27:17,120 --> 02:27:20,240
Speaker 2: everybody else is fucking up. And to me, I'm like, nigga,

2830
02:27:20,280 --> 02:27:24,000
Speaker 2: I've been at my Thanksgiving when that one aunt is

2831
02:27:24,000 --> 02:27:28,760
Speaker 2: calling everybody the cowgirls and calling the quarterback Tony homo

2832
02:27:28,879 --> 02:27:32,160
Speaker 2: and shit, And know nobody got up and slammed and

2833
02:27:32,200 --> 02:27:35,000
Speaker 2: walked out and yelled at her or that there was

2834
02:27:35,120 --> 02:27:38,800
Speaker 2: no pithy, perfect comment that fits in one hundred and

2835
02:27:38,840 --> 02:27:42,000
Speaker 2: forty characters for Twitter. It was just awkward and fucked

2836
02:27:42,080 --> 02:27:45,480
Speaker 2: up and maybe someone tried and then she made a

2837
02:27:45,520 --> 02:27:48,080
Speaker 2: good ass joke that everybody laughed at and everybody boo

2838
02:27:48,160 --> 02:27:50,959
Speaker 2: the fuck on, And that is happening in so many

2839
02:27:51,000 --> 02:27:54,360
Speaker 2: households all the time, and it's only on social media

2840
02:27:54,400 --> 02:27:56,920
Speaker 2: where we can present perfect that we could be like

2841
02:27:57,000 --> 02:27:59,520
Speaker 2: that didn't happen that way. I said, well, how about

2842
02:27:59,520 --> 02:28:02,240
Speaker 2: the fact that you ain't got no husbands all.

2843
02:28:02,240 --> 02:28:05,560
Speaker 4: That Thanksgiving we're about to get in the next few

2844
02:28:05,600 --> 02:28:07,240
Speaker 4: days when you were like, y'all nigga said none of

2845
02:28:07,320 --> 02:28:09,520
Speaker 4: this shit because ain't nobody in.

2846
02:28:09,560 --> 02:28:15,560
Speaker 2: Jail, right Uh. Anyway, I think I have no idea

2847
02:28:15,600 --> 02:28:17,600
Speaker 2: how we handle white folks coming home, the whiteness and

2848
02:28:17,640 --> 02:28:20,840
Speaker 2: the upcoming elections. They are sure enough their local political

2849
02:28:20,920 --> 02:28:24,720
Speaker 2: positions with racist getting co signed by coons redistricting areas

2850
02:28:25,000 --> 02:28:28,040
Speaker 2: so that they remained mostly white, marginalized black folks. I

2851
02:28:28,080 --> 02:28:31,720
Speaker 2: think this happened in NC recently. It did. We yes,

2852
02:28:31,879 --> 02:28:35,240
Speaker 2: it did. Racism loving whites are everywhere, even though some

2853
02:28:35,360 --> 02:28:37,520
Speaker 2: pretend that it's only the Southern Texas. A teacher who

2854
02:28:37,520 --> 02:28:40,879
Speaker 2: resigned because he was photographed insurrected on January sixth just

2855
02:28:40,879 --> 02:28:44,519
Speaker 2: want a seat on the board of ed and Braintree, Massachusetts.

2856
02:28:45,640 --> 02:28:48,480
Speaker 2: His so called grievance platform was getting power back to

2857
02:28:48,560 --> 02:28:51,039
Speaker 2: the into the hands of parents because he thought the

2858
02:28:51,120 --> 02:28:54,400
Speaker 2: Republican governor in Massachusetts was too heavy handed with his

2859
02:28:54,800 --> 02:28:57,600
Speaker 2: COVID response to Gov was not as bad as the

2860
02:28:57,640 --> 02:28:59,680
Speaker 2: ones in Georgia and Texas, but he was not as

2861
02:28:59,720 --> 02:29:02,000
Speaker 2: helpful the DEM GUVs in the surround the New England

2862
02:29:02,040 --> 02:29:06,000
Speaker 2: states it was a BS platform, but the white folks

2863
02:29:06,000 --> 02:29:08,880
Speaker 2: in town loved it. Plus, we know this COVID response

2864
02:29:09,000 --> 02:29:11,160
Speaker 2: argument goes hand in hand with anti blackness. I don't

2865
02:29:11,200 --> 02:29:13,440
Speaker 2: know what it's worse, the white folks who love and

2866
02:29:13,520 --> 02:29:16,440
Speaker 2: vote for racism and want everything back to eighteen seventy eight,

2867
02:29:16,959 --> 02:29:19,320
Speaker 2: or the moderate white folks who just make excuses for

2868
02:29:19,360 --> 02:29:21,680
Speaker 2: them or feel sorry for the poor fools and ignore

2869
02:29:21,680 --> 02:29:26,480
Speaker 2: them at their peril. Yeah, I think the obsession comes

2870
02:29:26,480 --> 02:29:30,560
Speaker 2: out in our media because at least the way I

2871
02:29:30,680 --> 02:29:33,640
Speaker 2: view it. And you know, I've talked about this before

2872
02:29:33,680 --> 02:29:36,840
Speaker 2: on the show with I had a friend who thought

2873
02:29:36,879 --> 02:29:38,480
Speaker 2: it was a cute story to tell me about his

2874
02:29:38,560 --> 02:29:42,000
Speaker 2: racist grandpa and how he played a prank on his

2875
02:29:42,080 --> 02:29:46,119
Speaker 2: racist grandpa at Christmas by saying he had a black wife,

2876
02:29:46,959 --> 02:29:49,680
Speaker 2: no black girlfriend that he was bringing over. And the

2877
02:29:49,760 --> 02:29:52,720
Speaker 2: racist grandpa was so disturbed he went in the bathroom

2878
02:29:53,080 --> 02:29:56,160
Speaker 2: and closed the door, wouldn't talk to anybody. And this

2879
02:29:56,240 --> 02:29:58,400
Speaker 2: guy Devin had to go in the bathroom and tell

2880
02:29:58,480 --> 02:30:01,720
Speaker 2: him no, no, I really don't have a black girlfriend.

2881
02:30:02,240 --> 02:30:04,200
Speaker 3: And he thought this was a funny story to tell me.

2882
02:30:06,120 --> 02:30:06,280
Speaker 4: Right.

2883
02:30:07,640 --> 02:30:11,880
Speaker 2: But what I realized that day and what I've realized

2884
02:30:13,040 --> 02:30:17,840
Speaker 2: from that point on, white people have an experience with

2885
02:30:18,000 --> 02:30:23,320
Speaker 2: racist people I don't have, and that is racist people

2886
02:30:23,400 --> 02:30:28,000
Speaker 2: have never loved me. But most importantly, I have never

2887
02:30:28,160 --> 02:30:34,720
Speaker 2: loved them back. And that is the critical weakness of

2888
02:30:34,800 --> 02:30:38,879
Speaker 2: whiteness that we will never overcome in America because in

2889
02:30:38,959 --> 02:30:42,440
Speaker 2: order to fight them, you need to love them in

2890
02:30:42,440 --> 02:30:46,400
Speaker 2: a way that is not the coddling love that people

2891
02:30:46,640 --> 02:30:50,119
Speaker 2: mistake for love all over the place. It's like when

2892
02:30:50,120 --> 02:30:52,959
Speaker 2: I say I love black men, but I love black

2893
02:30:53,000 --> 02:30:55,160
Speaker 2: men enough to say, hey, bro, we don't got to

2894
02:30:55,200 --> 02:30:59,360
Speaker 2: be homophobic, say that I love you enough to say, man,

2895
02:30:59,480 --> 02:31:04,400
Speaker 2: don't put your hands on a woman. That's love. Love.

2896
02:31:04,480 --> 02:31:06,680
Speaker 2: Isn't you hit that woman? I got your back. That's

2897
02:31:06,680 --> 02:31:09,960
Speaker 2: not love to me. And motherfuckers can can be mad

2898
02:31:09,959 --> 02:31:12,400
Speaker 2: about that shit all you want, but I, honest to God,

2899
02:31:12,440 --> 02:31:14,119
Speaker 2: feel like I'm right, and I don't think I'll ever

2900
02:31:14,240 --> 02:31:16,280
Speaker 2: change off of that. I don't know how you can't

2901
02:31:17,000 --> 02:31:20,520
Speaker 2: see it that way, you know, But that's what people

2902
02:31:20,520 --> 02:31:24,000
Speaker 2: think is loved, ownership and loyalty. That's not what love is.

2903
02:31:26,800 --> 02:31:31,160
Speaker 2: So anyway, they don't love white people the way white

2904
02:31:31,240 --> 02:31:33,640
Speaker 2: people need to be loved to get out of this.

2905
02:31:34,160 --> 02:31:36,440
Speaker 2: James bald Winn't even would say like, don't it's not

2906
02:31:36,480 --> 02:31:38,680
Speaker 2: I don't hate you, I love you, which is why

2907
02:31:38,680 --> 02:31:41,520
Speaker 2: I think you can be better. No, sadly they might

2908
02:31:41,560 --> 02:31:44,840
Speaker 2: not be better, but anyway, that's what I look at

2909
02:31:45,680 --> 02:31:48,000
Speaker 2: often think of the critique Doctor King had for them.

2910
02:31:48,040 --> 02:31:50,720
Speaker 2: These biggests are everywhere, and I think unfortunately white folks

2911
02:31:51,120 --> 02:31:54,119
Speaker 2: have to get prepared to take some serious risk, exact

2912
02:31:54,480 --> 02:31:57,800
Speaker 2: some kind of cultural or relational consequences, get it and

2913
02:31:57,920 --> 02:32:00,640
Speaker 2: for it to get personally ugly. Even if they don't

2914
02:32:00,640 --> 02:32:03,039
Speaker 2: take action, it will help come to ugliness because racist

2915
02:32:03,040 --> 02:32:06,560
Speaker 2: will force things to come to a head. They are

2916
02:32:06,600 --> 02:32:08,879
Speaker 2: going to keep pushing. The demographics of this country have changed,

2917
02:32:08,920 --> 02:32:11,480
Speaker 2: and many white folks are reaching reacting like I thought

2918
02:32:11,480 --> 02:32:13,959
Speaker 2: they would. There are always white people who fight back

2919
02:32:14,000 --> 02:32:15,840
Speaker 2: and who are about that life and are so grateful

2920
02:32:15,879 --> 02:32:18,600
Speaker 2: for them. But between mL between Milk dead head Dave

2921
02:32:18,680 --> 02:32:21,920
Speaker 2: Chapelle and his ilk, the anti LGBTQ plus coons, and

2922
02:32:21,920 --> 02:32:24,160
Speaker 2: the average moderate white person is gonna be a mess

2923
02:32:24,200 --> 02:32:26,400
Speaker 2: and a hard battle regardless, I'll keep voting and the

2924
02:32:26,440 --> 02:32:29,080
Speaker 2: courage others to do so like I always do. Thanks

2925
02:32:29,080 --> 02:32:31,600
Speaker 2: for reading my long ass rambling rant. I really grateful

2926
02:32:31,640 --> 02:32:34,400
Speaker 2: to both of you for getting into these difficult subjects

2927
02:32:34,400 --> 02:32:36,279
Speaker 2: of providing a platform where we can discuss these issues.

2928
02:32:36,280 --> 02:32:39,520
Speaker 2: Hopefully we can make a difference us kisses Angela, Thanks Angela,

2929
02:32:41,920 --> 02:32:46,279
Speaker 2: no bad bouncebacks slicking Slasher says, I'll post a refreshed

2930
02:32:46,280 --> 02:32:48,480
Speaker 2: review once I'll figure apple out. But I don't know

2931
02:32:48,520 --> 02:32:52,200
Speaker 2: about them other casts but y'all but y'all, so they

2932
02:32:52,280 --> 02:32:55,480
Speaker 2: need to put some respect on the related Karen because

2933
02:32:55,520 --> 02:32:59,360
Speaker 2: the cook out, the flames let me get off y'all screen,

2934
02:32:59,440 --> 02:33:01,760
Speaker 2: but for the influence had me saying the N word,

2935
02:33:01,800 --> 02:33:04,520
Speaker 2: shaking my head l O L exit stage left while

2936
02:33:04,560 --> 02:33:08,400
Speaker 2: doing the latest dance moves. I do love the black

2937
02:33:08,440 --> 02:33:10,160
Speaker 2: people that listen to our show that don't say nigga.

2938
02:33:10,240 --> 02:33:12,240
Speaker 2: That is adorable, y'all.

2939
02:33:12,360 --> 02:33:15,320
Speaker 3: And I appreciate y'all's resilience, like y'all really be.

2940
02:33:15,280 --> 02:33:19,120
Speaker 2: Sticking to that ship. Huh good for y'all. Every time

2941
02:33:19,200 --> 02:33:21,520
Speaker 2: I every time me, the black person say the N word,

2942
02:33:21,560 --> 02:33:24,440
Speaker 2: I can't lie there's a level of respect that I

2943
02:33:24,520 --> 02:33:25,920
Speaker 2: have it them just like couldn't be me.

2944
02:33:26,720 --> 02:33:28,879
Speaker 4: It's like it's like you got that restraint.

2945
02:33:28,959 --> 02:33:31,360
Speaker 2: It's that down South, like bless your heart. So you

2946
02:33:31,400 --> 02:33:35,240
Speaker 2: don't even say it. H must be nice, us mus

2947
02:33:35,400 --> 02:33:38,000
Speaker 2: be nice. What a man. You're a good person, because

2948
02:33:38,000 --> 02:33:41,080
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say it, never gonna give it up. Love it,

2949
02:33:41,640 --> 02:33:44,200
Speaker 2: love it. And yes, I'm gonna be mad when white

2950
02:33:44,200 --> 02:33:48,440
Speaker 2: people said, yes, I am hypocrisy. Be damned, it ain't

2951
02:33:48,440 --> 02:33:53,920
Speaker 2: the same. No, uh, David says Harvey's experience. Hey, Rid

2952
02:33:53,959 --> 02:33:55,920
Speaker 2: and Karen, oh, even you might want to cut that

2953
02:33:56,760 --> 02:34:00,360
Speaker 2: episode off for about three minutes. Hey, riding can Hello

2954
02:34:00,520 --> 02:34:03,320
Speaker 2: my favorite podcast of all time. First, hope you enjoyed

2955
02:34:03,320 --> 02:34:05,440
Speaker 2: the days off, because you both certainly deserve it. Second,

2956
02:34:05,440 --> 02:34:07,360
Speaker 2: I hope you got you enjoyed this email about my

2957
02:34:07,520 --> 02:34:10,400
Speaker 2: Arby's experience while driving up I ninety five through the

2958
02:34:10,440 --> 02:34:13,320
Speaker 2: Great Strait of North Carolina. I got hungry and it

2959
02:34:13,320 --> 02:34:15,440
Speaker 2: made up my mind to pull over. But well, you

2960
02:34:15,560 --> 02:34:19,080
Speaker 2: might ask, well, yeah, because everything has a long line

2961
02:34:19,080 --> 02:34:21,880
Speaker 2: now with fast food and door dash. So where were

2962
02:34:21,920 --> 02:34:28,000
Speaker 2: we and Arby's, Well, my black ass eyes deceiving me.

2963
02:34:28,520 --> 02:34:31,200
Speaker 2: This is literally the first one I've ever seen. I

2964
02:34:31,240 --> 02:34:37,760
Speaker 2: pulled into the parking lot and this motherfucker was empty.

2965
02:34:38,520 --> 02:34:42,320
Speaker 2: What I tell y'all, don't listen to these fucking Arby's

2966
02:34:42,320 --> 02:34:47,280
Speaker 2: truthers and their lives. Bro they be lying. What did

2967
02:34:47,320 --> 02:34:50,519
Speaker 2: I tell y'all, I've been right about.

2968
02:34:50,200 --> 02:34:55,119
Speaker 4: All of that. We've been right about all of that.

2969
02:34:58,160 --> 02:35:04,280
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, they will sit there and a lot of

2970
02:35:04,320 --> 02:35:09,279
Speaker 2: your face like sugar Go and Gritch and fucking Arvey's

2971
02:35:09,320 --> 02:35:12,519
Speaker 2: always has a line around the block and shit, these liars,

2972
02:35:12,560 --> 02:35:17,760
Speaker 2: Oh my god, gas lighters. Well, my eyes deceiving me.

2973
02:35:17,840 --> 02:35:19,959
Speaker 2: This is literally the first one I've ever seen. That's,

2974
02:35:20,040 --> 02:35:22,200
Speaker 2: by the way. That's when y'all know the money changed us.

2975
02:35:23,160 --> 02:35:25,520
Speaker 2: If if Arby's ever write a check for us to

2976
02:35:25,800 --> 02:35:29,640
Speaker 2: do an AD and you see me on here, come out,

2977
02:35:29,680 --> 02:35:31,959
Speaker 2: we got we got to meet because I'm not listen.

2978
02:35:32,120 --> 02:35:34,720
Speaker 2: I'm not half asking no ad. If they pay us

2979
02:35:34,720 --> 02:35:36,520
Speaker 2: to do an AD, I will sit here a lot

2980
02:35:36,520 --> 02:35:42,000
Speaker 2: of y'all's motherfucking face and be like this ship is delicious, okay,

2981
02:35:42,600 --> 02:35:45,440
Speaker 2: a new roast beef sandwich. Oh, I have never had

2982
02:35:45,560 --> 02:35:49,040
Speaker 2: brisket soul. I'll be sounding like who's they got on there?

2983
02:35:49,280 --> 02:35:51,600
Speaker 2: Ving rings? I'll be sounding like ving rings that day.

2984
02:35:52,080 --> 02:35:54,760
Speaker 2: That's how much a lot of y'all have R responsors us.

2985
02:35:54,879 --> 02:36:00,320
Speaker 2: But they don't, so you're getting the truth, he says.

2986
02:36:00,360 --> 02:36:02,120
Speaker 2: I put in his parking line. This motherfucker's empty. I

2987
02:36:02,160 --> 02:36:03,680
Speaker 2: swew the god tomb me. We walked up to my

2988
02:36:03,720 --> 02:36:06,400
Speaker 2: window and asked me the whole five dollars. That was

2989
02:36:06,440 --> 02:36:08,520
Speaker 2: my first red flag. My second red flag was the

2990
02:36:08,520 --> 02:36:10,080
Speaker 2: fact that it was five pm and there were only

2991
02:36:10,080 --> 02:36:11,160
Speaker 2: two niggas working. Two.

2992
02:36:11,840 --> 02:36:13,440
Speaker 3: They don't need a lot of people, ain't it's a

2993
02:36:13,520 --> 02:36:14,600
Speaker 3: drug laundering industry.

2994
02:36:15,800 --> 02:36:17,920
Speaker 2: My third red flag was a nigga in the line

2995
02:36:17,920 --> 02:36:19,920
Speaker 2: ahead of me had a beard that was patchy and

2996
02:36:19,959 --> 02:36:23,840
Speaker 2: looked unwatered, like unworded grass. A trustworth establishment would never

2997
02:36:23,920 --> 02:36:26,320
Speaker 2: let such customers eat their food. Again, my bet against

2998
02:36:26,360 --> 02:36:29,680
Speaker 2: my better judgment, I continue to place my order. Gots

2999
02:36:29,680 --> 02:36:31,400
Speaker 2: to see it through. My boy. I got two for

3000
02:36:31,520 --> 02:36:35,600
Speaker 2: six dollar combo and a caramel cinnamon. I don't know

3001
02:36:35,680 --> 02:36:38,720
Speaker 2: what that is I should have maybe having that's another

3002
02:36:38,720 --> 02:36:41,800
Speaker 2: thing I alresly having food to dominate no sense. Get

3003
02:36:41,840 --> 02:36:44,680
Speaker 2: you a jamocha milkshake? What the fuck's are Jamocha? I

3004
02:36:46,280 --> 02:36:48,440
Speaker 2: should have known something was up. When I got my

3005
02:36:48,440 --> 02:36:51,879
Speaker 2: food before the nigga ahead of me, I heard it

3006
02:36:51,920 --> 02:36:54,640
Speaker 2: to my car with my food to avoid searching for

3007
02:36:54,720 --> 02:36:56,800
Speaker 2: more red flags. When I checked the back, I saw

3008
02:36:56,840 --> 02:36:59,160
Speaker 2: another red flag. These niggas gave me two sandwiches and

3009
02:36:59,200 --> 02:37:02,520
Speaker 2: no motherfucking that skins. It was now the moment of truth?

3010
02:37:02,760 --> 02:37:05,119
Speaker 2: Was Rodron this whole time? Or was carrying and Miss

3011
02:37:05,120 --> 02:37:13,680
Speaker 2: Barnes on some bullshit. Karen's enjoined us. He said, cue

3012
02:37:13,680 --> 02:37:28,600
Speaker 2: the music, you know what music? Yeah, I'll be damned.

3013
02:37:28,760 --> 02:37:32,160
Speaker 2: I can't believe anyone could eat Arby's and compare it

3014
02:37:32,160 --> 02:37:37,160
Speaker 2: to Chick fil A's juicy Christian deliciousness. That's right, Arvey's. Honestly,

3015
02:37:37,280 --> 02:37:41,080
Speaker 2: I wish Arby's was homophobic, just so these niggas will

3016
02:37:41,120 --> 02:37:44,039
Speaker 2: have no excuses because you know how they lound Chick

3017
02:37:44,080 --> 02:37:46,960
Speaker 2: fil A and say it's nasty just because they you know,

3018
02:37:47,000 --> 02:37:49,600
Speaker 2: because they homophobus, like you know, they lie, but it's

3019
02:37:49,720 --> 02:37:52,600
Speaker 2: you know, it's really the steal their moral resolvency. So

3020
02:37:52,640 --> 02:37:56,119
Speaker 2: they'll be like, it's homophobic and it's nasty, and it's

3021
02:37:56,120 --> 02:37:58,400
Speaker 2: a psychological trick, and you trick yourself and be like

3022
02:37:58,400 --> 02:38:01,480
Speaker 2: it's nasty tick and it's it's it's terrible, and you

3023
02:38:01,600 --> 02:38:03,440
Speaker 2: need to do it because they homophobic, and it's the

3024
02:38:03,480 --> 02:38:05,560
Speaker 2: only way to keep your mind from wondering to like

3025
02:38:05,959 --> 02:38:09,560
Speaker 2: juicy delicious niggas. You don't want to be thinking that,

3026
02:38:10,400 --> 02:38:12,280
Speaker 2: you want to be thinking it's terrible, right, It's like

3027
02:38:12,800 --> 02:38:16,280
Speaker 2: it's like when when people street her ask somebody and

3028
02:38:16,280 --> 02:38:18,680
Speaker 2: then call them like, I know in your heart you

3029
02:38:18,720 --> 02:38:22,480
Speaker 2: know that that's why. But okay, cool, I get it.

3030
02:38:22,520 --> 02:38:24,240
Speaker 2: I'm not even mad at y'all no more. Keep lying

3031
02:38:24,240 --> 02:38:27,119
Speaker 2: to yourselves. Stay strong. I'm not eating it right now either.

3032
02:38:27,560 --> 02:38:31,279
Speaker 3: But why can't Arby's be homophobe?

3033
02:38:32,160 --> 02:38:33,879
Speaker 2: That's what I need to do. Find some dirt on

3034
02:38:33,920 --> 02:38:37,200
Speaker 2: these niggas who they give to the Republicans? They probably

3035
02:38:37,320 --> 02:38:39,360
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get it. Can Chris Pratt do a commercial form?

3036
02:38:39,480 --> 02:38:41,560
Speaker 4: They give it to the drug dealers? You know, you

3037
02:38:41,600 --> 02:38:42,840
Speaker 4: know a lot of them can't vote.

3038
02:38:43,000 --> 02:38:45,760
Speaker 2: Can Chris Pratt, Kanye West, and Kim Kardashian do a

3039
02:38:45,800 --> 02:38:49,959
Speaker 2: commercial form? Can Taylor Swift feature him on the next album?

3040
02:38:49,959 --> 02:38:52,160
Speaker 2: What I Gotta do to get y'all? Y'all, the people

3041
02:38:52,200 --> 02:38:54,480
Speaker 2: are so simple to hate shit. It's so easy to

3042
02:38:54,480 --> 02:38:57,720
Speaker 2: get these hateful motherfuckers to hate something. Why how armies

3043
02:38:57,760 --> 02:39:01,520
Speaker 2: ain't never fucked up? They keeping it clean the audaccy.

3044
02:39:01,640 --> 02:39:03,640
Speaker 2: The funny part is that the ramp to get on

3045
02:39:03,680 --> 02:39:06,680
Speaker 2: the highway was littered with Arby's bags and unfinished sandwiches,

3046
02:39:07,120 --> 02:39:09,920
Speaker 2: good reasons. I was hungry, so I stopped bitching and

3047
02:39:09,959 --> 02:39:12,760
Speaker 2: eight both salads, turned off my radio, listen to the road.

3048
02:39:12,840 --> 02:39:16,720
Speaker 2: Laugh at my goofy ass for choosing Arveys instead of

3049
02:39:16,800 --> 02:39:20,360
Speaker 2: McDonald's like any other reasonable person. However, that centiment carmel

3050
02:39:20,440 --> 02:39:23,920
Speaker 2: shake was flames. That's how they get you, because I

3051
02:39:23,920 --> 02:39:26,240
Speaker 2: hear the Jamoka shake is flame. Like all the shit

3052
02:39:26,320 --> 02:39:28,200
Speaker 2: that is not on the menu for you to order

3053
02:39:28,320 --> 02:39:32,800
Speaker 2: is the flames. Ah like nigga them cookies though, like yeah,

3054
02:39:32,959 --> 02:39:36,120
Speaker 2: you know who else got cookies? Good restaurants. It was

3055
02:39:36,160 --> 02:39:38,920
Speaker 2: the only thing that would ever bring me back to Arby's. Anyway.

3056
02:39:38,959 --> 02:39:41,240
Speaker 2: I hope you enjoyed the stories. Always refer your podcast

3057
02:39:41,320 --> 02:39:43,520
Speaker 2: a few more of my friends. Please please please take

3058
02:39:43,520 --> 02:39:45,080
Speaker 2: care of yourself to his global pad lot.

3059
02:39:45,160 --> 02:39:48,080
Speaker 3: Thank you, David, We will, we will. That was funny man,

3060
02:39:48,120 --> 02:39:48,440
Speaker 3: Thank you.

3061
02:39:50,480 --> 02:39:54,880
Speaker 2: So back to the next one twenty four forty five

3062
02:39:54,879 --> 02:39:57,600
Speaker 2: cover season trapping seasons from Aaron, Hey, Rody Karen. Sorry

3063
02:39:57,640 --> 02:39:59,400
Speaker 2: for the long email, Advans. I wanted to express how

3064
02:39:59,480 --> 02:40:01,680
Speaker 2: much I really in and appreciate your podcast. Sometimes I

3065
02:40:01,720 --> 02:40:04,199
Speaker 2: agree with many opinions and trending topics I see online,

3066
02:40:04,320 --> 02:40:06,240
Speaker 2: and you guys bring me back to reality and think

3067
02:40:06,280 --> 02:40:08,800
Speaker 2: of the situation clearly, Like I don't care for Chris

3068
02:40:08,840 --> 02:40:10,640
Speaker 2: Chris Pratt and I got sucked in the hate training

3069
02:40:10,720 --> 02:40:13,240
Speaker 2: for him, so I thought it was fine and justifiable

3070
02:40:13,240 --> 02:40:15,760
Speaker 2: when people were upset about his Instagram comment. When y'all

3071
02:40:15,800 --> 02:40:17,720
Speaker 2: explaining the reality of it, I just had to sit

3072
02:40:17,800 --> 02:40:20,560
Speaker 2: and think about how crazy that situation is. I've heard

3073
02:40:20,560 --> 02:40:22,480
Speaker 2: and read other things about him that people don't like

3074
02:40:22,560 --> 02:40:24,400
Speaker 2: him for, so I already had a bad taste in

3075
02:40:24,400 --> 02:40:26,680
Speaker 2: my mouth for him. I've been taking longer and longer

3076
02:40:26,720 --> 02:40:29,440
Speaker 2: social media breaks, mainly from Twitter, because everyone has such

3077
02:40:29,440 --> 02:40:32,119
Speaker 2: a high mind and it's affected me because I wasn't

3078
02:40:32,160 --> 02:40:35,120
Speaker 2: really form my own opinions anymore. The longer I'm off

3079
02:40:35,160 --> 02:40:36,920
Speaker 2: social media, the more I just want to stay off.

3080
02:40:37,160 --> 02:40:39,760
Speaker 2: But I stayed because black Twitter can be funny as

3081
02:40:39,800 --> 02:40:42,240
Speaker 2: fuck and the means in general are great. Yeah, there's

3082
02:40:42,280 --> 02:40:44,560
Speaker 2: positive things of being online. I know, we we talk

3083
02:40:44,600 --> 02:40:47,080
Speaker 2: about a lot of the pitfalls and things to be

3084
02:40:47,160 --> 02:40:50,840
Speaker 2: wary of. But there are good things, man, you know,

3085
02:40:51,000 --> 02:40:53,039
Speaker 2: and I get it. I mean, I'm still I still

3086
02:40:53,040 --> 02:40:54,880
Speaker 2: have an account. It's not like I think it's nothing

3087
02:40:54,879 --> 02:40:58,160
Speaker 2: but bad shit, and it's not solely to promote the show. Man.

3088
02:40:58,200 --> 02:41:02,080
Speaker 2: I have friends I think are funny connections saying with people.

3089
02:41:02,400 --> 02:41:05,039
Speaker 4: I mean some of some of the some of my

3090
02:41:05,120 --> 02:41:06,680
Speaker 4: closest friends I found through Twitter.

3091
02:41:06,840 --> 02:41:09,760
Speaker 2: Yeah. So I definitely don't want people to feel like

3092
02:41:09,800 --> 02:41:11,800
Speaker 2: we're just throwing the baby out with the bath with it.

3093
02:41:11,879 --> 02:41:14,560
Speaker 2: But if you're not aware and conscious of this shit,

3094
02:41:14,680 --> 02:41:16,400
Speaker 2: you just end up being like, this is how it

3095
02:41:16,440 --> 02:41:20,520
Speaker 2: has to be in it, don't the longer. Yeah. Also,

3096
02:41:20,600 --> 02:41:22,960
Speaker 2: every time I go back, I start getting anxious because

3097
02:41:22,959 --> 02:41:24,960
Speaker 2: I know it's gonna be a shit show and there

3098
02:41:25,000 --> 02:41:27,720
Speaker 2: are opinions and comments that I will not want to see.

3099
02:41:27,959 --> 02:41:30,080
Speaker 2: I also feel like there's just going to be so

3100
02:41:30,240 --> 02:41:32,480
Speaker 2: much that I'm supposed to hate or defend it. It can

3101
02:41:32,560 --> 02:41:35,640
Speaker 2: just be too much. Again, thank you all all for

3102
02:41:35,760 --> 02:41:37,680
Speaker 2: all that you guys do, and keep being great.

3103
02:41:37,800 --> 02:41:42,360
Speaker 4: Aaron mcause. The thing about online you have to filter,

3104
02:41:42,640 --> 02:41:46,480
Speaker 4: you have to know yourself, and you have to be

3105
02:41:46,520 --> 02:41:49,039
Speaker 4: online for a while to know yourself, which means you

3106
02:41:49,080 --> 02:41:50,879
Speaker 4: have to know what triggers you like. You got to

3107
02:41:50,959 --> 02:41:53,760
Speaker 4: know yourself. And so once you understand that, you can

3108
02:41:53,920 --> 02:41:56,800
Speaker 4: use the tools that they have to navigate and narrow

3109
02:41:56,879 --> 02:41:59,520
Speaker 4: down and filter things out so that you can make

3110
02:41:59,560 --> 02:42:02,400
Speaker 4: your own life experience, your personal online experience.

3111
02:42:02,480 --> 02:42:07,039
Speaker 2: And my thing is this, man, I totally identified that

3112
02:42:07,080 --> 02:42:09,959
Speaker 2: thing about it making you anxious. And for me, it

3113
02:42:10,040 --> 02:42:12,640
Speaker 2: feels like a cup that is getting a little bit

3114
02:42:12,680 --> 02:42:16,400
Speaker 2: of water all the time and it'll get to the

3115
02:42:16,440 --> 02:42:18,800
Speaker 2: brim and pour over. And if I let that happen,

3116
02:42:18,840 --> 02:42:23,320
Speaker 2: I've gone too far and I've I've absorbed too much.

3117
02:42:23,400 --> 02:42:26,240
Speaker 2: And it's because I just kept scrolling and kept seeing

3118
02:42:26,240 --> 02:42:28,920
Speaker 2: stuff and it adds up and it takes a toll.

3119
02:42:29,120 --> 02:42:32,560
Speaker 2: And so you know, part of me reading more is

3120
02:42:32,600 --> 02:42:34,920
Speaker 2: a thing that keeps me off of just scrolling all

3121
02:42:34,920 --> 02:42:38,920
Speaker 2: the time, you know, curating my feed and all that type.

3122
02:42:39,120 --> 02:42:42,160
Speaker 2: They really does matter what you take in. And some

3123
02:42:42,240 --> 02:42:44,760
Speaker 2: of this shit is just rushing roulente. Man, you fucking

3124
02:42:44,840 --> 02:42:48,440
Speaker 2: be on that on Facebook and it's you know, of

3125
02:42:49,040 --> 02:42:56,200
Speaker 2: engagement of baby born, a new job, death, You're crapped out,

3126
02:42:56,320 --> 02:42:58,800
Speaker 2: snake eyes. This is now you got to listen to

3127
02:42:58,800 --> 02:43:01,240
Speaker 2: this tribute about this person mom or whatever, or this

3128
02:43:01,280 --> 02:43:04,200
Speaker 2: person died of COVID or whatever, and I don't know.

3129
02:43:04,760 --> 02:43:08,360
Speaker 2: That's not to me. That's not good. Let's see Angela

3130
02:43:08,400 --> 02:43:10,200
Speaker 2: Wright saying, hey, Rod of Karen George this episode I

3131
02:43:10,280 --> 02:43:13,840
Speaker 2: mensely episode twenty four to forty three. Boy, did your

3132
02:43:13,879 --> 02:43:16,120
Speaker 2: analysis get to the hardest issue we could discuss this

3133
02:43:16,160 --> 02:43:17,959
Speaker 2: topic fore we It's definitely the American way to try

3134
02:43:17,959 --> 02:43:20,080
Speaker 2: to push away to power. Oh wait, I did this one,

3135
02:43:20,760 --> 02:43:23,360
Speaker 2: My bad. Let's go to the next one. Golden Tickets,

3136
02:43:23,320 --> 02:43:27,440
Speaker 2: Booty Jet bouta Jack and soup Dublins. Man, it's been

3137
02:43:27,480 --> 02:43:30,720
Speaker 2: so long since I said mayor Pete's last name. I

3138
02:43:30,760 --> 02:43:36,440
Speaker 2: forgot that's what it was. Yeah, the judge when we

3139
02:43:36,480 --> 02:43:37,480
Speaker 2: had to learn how to say that.

3140
02:43:37,440 --> 02:43:39,280
Speaker 4: Because everybody was tanded up.

3141
02:43:39,360 --> 02:43:42,200
Speaker 2: Everybody on Twitter was fake scared he was gonna be

3142
02:43:42,240 --> 02:43:46,240
Speaker 2: president for like four seconds and then they vilified the

3143
02:43:46,240 --> 02:43:48,240
Speaker 2: shit out of that dude and then like made them

3144
02:43:48,280 --> 02:43:51,440
Speaker 2: like a horrible racist mayor and all this type of shit,

3145
02:43:51,560 --> 02:43:55,920
Speaker 2: and then turned out just an average white dude mayor.

3146
02:43:55,959 --> 02:43:58,560
Speaker 2: Like it wasn't even that as bad as people thought

3147
02:43:58,560 --> 02:44:01,200
Speaker 2: it was. But man, that was when everybody had to

3148
02:44:01,240 --> 02:44:05,000
Speaker 2: go if it wasn't Kamala, No, not even Kamma Kama

3149
02:44:05,040 --> 02:44:10,160
Speaker 2: got who is it Elizabeth Warren? No, she had pocahonas. Yeah,

3150
02:44:10,240 --> 02:44:11,440
Speaker 2: just everybody had to go with Bernie.

3151
02:44:11,480 --> 02:44:13,240
Speaker 4: I guess Bernie and Biden.

3152
02:44:13,360 --> 02:44:15,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was back when any flaw in any other

3153
02:44:15,440 --> 02:44:18,360
Speaker 2: candidate that wasn't Bernie was like this, this is death

3154
02:44:18,400 --> 02:44:19,400
Speaker 2: for this nigga.

3155
02:44:19,480 --> 02:44:24,080
Speaker 4: The most, the most diverse people, everybody we tied these

3156
02:44:24,120 --> 02:44:26,720
Speaker 4: old white men's that versity diversity over.

3157
02:44:26,800 --> 02:44:28,680
Speaker 2: They came out of two old white men.

3158
02:44:28,800 --> 02:44:31,280
Speaker 4: Right because y'all wouldn't give and y'all wouldn't support him.

3159
02:44:31,320 --> 02:44:34,280
Speaker 4: You complained and talked about everybody wouldn't ship and guess what,

3160
02:44:35,520 --> 02:44:39,240
Speaker 4: nothing sticks to white men.

3161
02:44:39,440 --> 02:44:41,960
Speaker 2: It should have been commona. She should have been the president, like,

3162
02:44:42,000 --> 02:44:44,000
Speaker 2: but you niggas called her a cop every step of

3163
02:44:44,040 --> 02:44:48,880
Speaker 2: the way. Yes, y'all, what are you talking about? Looking

3164
02:44:48,920 --> 02:44:52,240
Speaker 2: like that? Eric? Andre mean when you shot Hannah Ombaris

3165
02:44:52,280 --> 02:44:53,600
Speaker 2: and was like, who shot this man?

3166
02:44:54,360 --> 02:44:55,920
Speaker 4: I don't understand. I don't get it.

3167
02:44:56,200 --> 02:44:58,520
Speaker 2: John says, good morning, ride of CARROLA. George, your time

3168
02:44:58,600 --> 02:45:01,120
Speaker 2: off right. I think you're right with regard to the

3169
02:45:01,160 --> 02:45:03,280
Speaker 2: squad votes and the infrastructure bill. This sort of thing

3170
02:45:03,320 --> 02:45:05,600
Speaker 2: happens all the time, where reps go to their caucus

3171
02:45:05,640 --> 02:45:08,119
Speaker 2: leaders can get the permission to vote against the party

3172
02:45:08,160 --> 02:45:10,120
Speaker 2: for various reasons, so long as you are, there are

3173
02:45:10,280 --> 02:45:13,360
Speaker 2: enough yes votes to get the bill passed. Many time

3174
02:45:13,560 --> 02:45:16,480
Speaker 2: times it's because reps have made promises the various activists

3175
02:45:16,560 --> 02:45:20,000
Speaker 2: or organizations that I won't vote for any bill that

3176
02:45:20,040 --> 02:45:23,000
Speaker 2: doesn't do X. So this allows them a purely symbolic

3177
02:45:23,120 --> 02:45:26,120
Speaker 2: chance to keep those groups happy. It's often called a

3178
02:45:26,200 --> 02:45:29,480
Speaker 2: golden ticket. People just people just don't like the squad, who,

3179
02:45:29,600 --> 02:45:32,039
Speaker 2: like anyone else, aren't perfect, and are usually as a

3180
02:45:32,040 --> 02:45:33,879
Speaker 2: reason to bash them. The irony is that this sort

3181
02:45:33,879 --> 02:45:36,360
Speaker 2: of coordination between progressive and moderate win get a party

3182
02:45:36,600 --> 02:45:39,360
Speaker 2: actually helps them stay unified and helps keep both sides

3183
02:45:39,360 --> 02:45:40,240
Speaker 2: from losing voters.

3184
02:45:40,440 --> 02:45:43,160
Speaker 3: It's crucial to hold together. The verse coalition helps build

3185
02:45:43,160 --> 02:45:43,520
Speaker 3: trust and.

3186
02:45:43,560 --> 02:45:46,240
Speaker 2: Unity within the party by avoiding much the much worse

3187
02:45:46,240 --> 02:45:50,320
Speaker 2: scenario where reps vote against something unannounced and actually prevent

3188
02:45:50,440 --> 02:45:54,400
Speaker 2: something good from passing. Yeah, so the scenario I came

3189
02:45:54,440 --> 02:45:57,800
Speaker 2: to was one of those two. Either they Pelosi knew,

3190
02:45:58,280 --> 02:46:01,039
Speaker 2: they knew, and this just the way it was gonna

3191
02:46:01,080 --> 02:46:04,240
Speaker 2: look optically. I'm not saying that's the most likely thing,

3192
02:46:04,560 --> 02:46:07,760
Speaker 2: but that is possible. And then the second thing, which

3193
02:46:07,800 --> 02:46:12,240
Speaker 2: may be the most likely, and it's also possible. Nancy

3194
02:46:12,320 --> 02:46:16,040
Speaker 2: knew she had to vote. So the taccit thing that

3195
02:46:16,120 --> 02:46:18,120
Speaker 2: she's saying is if I didn't call you to ask

3196
02:46:18,160 --> 02:46:23,200
Speaker 2: how you voting, I don't care. Right, do your think

3197
02:46:24,280 --> 02:46:24,600
Speaker 2: the thing?

3198
02:46:24,720 --> 02:46:24,800
Speaker 8: Is?

3199
02:46:24,800 --> 02:46:28,480
Speaker 2: It passed? So you know? And honestly, in a weird way,

3200
02:46:29,240 --> 02:46:35,640
Speaker 2: it proves Biden and Pelosi and Schumer, the veterans, and

3201
02:46:35,680 --> 02:46:39,440
Speaker 2: mostly Biden more than Pelosi. It proves that they were

3202
02:46:39,440 --> 02:46:43,600
Speaker 2: the ones that were right. And nobody won't talk about that,

3203
02:46:44,560 --> 02:46:47,720
Speaker 2: but it proves that their theory you can move Republicans

3204
02:46:47,720 --> 02:46:51,120
Speaker 2: on some issues and get them to vote. Turns out

3205
02:46:51,200 --> 02:46:53,480
Speaker 2: that was actually right. And when they campaigned on that,

3206
02:46:53,520 --> 02:46:57,200
Speaker 2: when Biden campaigned on that, he was right. And it

3207
02:46:57,280 --> 02:47:00,000
Speaker 2: wasn't gonna be the thing where like you come in

3208
02:47:00,040 --> 02:47:02,360
Speaker 2: and yell at everybody and because you're the most left,

3209
02:47:02,440 --> 02:47:04,520
Speaker 2: you just fucking they just gonna get in line because

3210
02:47:04,520 --> 02:47:07,760
Speaker 2: you mad. Nah. It took working with people and meeting

3211
02:47:07,800 --> 02:47:10,959
Speaker 2: people and and and compromise to get it done, but

3212
02:47:11,000 --> 02:47:14,520
Speaker 2: it got done. On a related note, did you see

3213
02:47:14,520 --> 02:47:16,760
Speaker 2: the news about Buddha Jazz saying that part part of

3214
02:47:16,800 --> 02:47:20,080
Speaker 2: the infrastructure bill will focus on dismantling highways freeways that

3215
02:47:20,240 --> 02:47:24,120
Speaker 2: historically divided community's color. Funny because I remember during the

3216
02:47:24,160 --> 02:47:26,920
Speaker 2: promiary people saying that Bouda, Jack and Biden would only

3217
02:47:26,920 --> 02:47:30,520
Speaker 2: perpetuate white supremacy, and yet here they are literally dismantling it. Yep,

3218
02:47:30,600 --> 02:47:34,359
Speaker 2: And yeah, it's crickets. It's crickets.

3219
02:47:34,480 --> 02:47:37,120
Speaker 4: It's no matter what they do. This ship ain't never enough.

3220
02:47:37,240 --> 02:47:39,640
Speaker 2: He's a liar. Don't trust any of his campaign proms.

3221
02:47:39,640 --> 02:47:41,879
Speaker 4: So all the niggas ain't free. Tomorrow is never enough.

3222
02:47:42,160 --> 02:47:44,039
Speaker 4: Ye stands keep changing and.

3223
02:47:44,000 --> 02:47:47,039
Speaker 2: He takes And by the way, uh Bodajet has been

3224
02:47:47,200 --> 02:47:52,720
Speaker 2: doing a lot of race work in that in that

3225
02:47:52,720 --> 02:47:56,359
Speaker 2: that role of his dealing with you know, the highways

3226
02:47:56,360 --> 02:47:58,920
Speaker 2: and the freeways and the infrastructure, he's been doing a

3227
02:47:58,959 --> 02:48:00,959
Speaker 2: lot of race work. If you've been following what he's

3228
02:48:01,000 --> 02:48:04,200
Speaker 2: been talking about, it's always almost always informed by a race.

3229
02:48:04,600 --> 02:48:07,520
Speaker 2: He's also been taking a lot of heat for adopting

3230
02:48:07,520 --> 02:48:10,599
Speaker 2: a child with his husband. So you got the homophobes

3231
02:48:10,600 --> 02:48:13,440
Speaker 2: and the biggest still on them, and you know, people

3232
02:48:13,480 --> 02:48:16,520
Speaker 2: did say he was just a racist and he was

3233
02:48:16,560 --> 02:48:19,280
Speaker 2: a terrible guy, and when he got power, it would

3234
02:48:19,320 --> 02:48:19,920
Speaker 2: be racist.

3235
02:48:20,400 --> 02:48:22,680
Speaker 3: And you can't trust them and what and you know me,

3236
02:48:22,879 --> 02:48:23,800
Speaker 3: I don't trust.

3237
02:48:23,480 --> 02:48:26,120
Speaker 2: Any of them. It don't matter. But what he's done

3238
02:48:26,160 --> 02:48:28,840
Speaker 2: with that power has not been what people say he

3239
02:48:28,879 --> 02:48:32,880
Speaker 2: would do. And no, they will not address it. I

3240
02:48:32,920 --> 02:48:34,920
Speaker 2: wonder if those people will admit they were wrong. Sarcasm

3241
02:48:34,959 --> 02:48:37,080
Speaker 2: between all this bickering and flood of we are so

3242
02:48:37,200 --> 02:48:39,320
Speaker 2: fucked voting won't save us doom tweets. It's a good

3243
02:48:39,320 --> 02:48:42,200
Speaker 2: reminder step away from social media. From a psychological standpoint,

3244
02:48:42,400 --> 02:48:44,640
Speaker 2: it feels like we're going through twenty sixteen all over again.

3245
02:48:44,720 --> 02:48:47,480
Speaker 2: Only would increase voter suppression and the pandemic on top yay,

3246
02:48:48,120 --> 02:48:50,119
Speaker 2: on a lighter note, now that you have a steamer,

3247
02:48:50,200 --> 02:48:51,879
Speaker 2: just a heads up on the soup Dublins that traded

3248
02:48:51,959 --> 02:48:55,520
Speaker 2: Joe's are actually pretty decent. Pretty decent nigga. I fucked

3249
02:48:55,520 --> 02:48:58,920
Speaker 2: with the trader Joe's soup Dublins. I've been traded Joe's

3250
02:48:58,920 --> 02:49:02,440
Speaker 2: soup dublin gang game up in this motherfucker And even

3251
02:49:02,440 --> 02:49:04,760
Speaker 2: when you mic awave them, they good. That's how good

3252
02:49:04,800 --> 02:49:07,960
Speaker 2: them motherfuckers are. Cut the edge off a minute forty

3253
02:49:08,000 --> 02:49:11,280
Speaker 2: five in the microwave. Nigga, that's how much I fuck

3254
02:49:11,360 --> 02:49:13,760
Speaker 2: with them dumplings. I know that by heart. I can

3255
02:49:13,800 --> 02:49:15,840
Speaker 2: throw that box away and never need to look at

3256
02:49:15,840 --> 02:49:18,840
Speaker 2: their instructions as the trash. I fuck with them Trader

3257
02:49:18,920 --> 02:49:22,240
Speaker 2: Joe's heavy. They know me up in there. Okay, I

3258
02:49:22,360 --> 02:49:25,320
Speaker 2: walk out a Trader Joe's, I am walking out with

3259
02:49:25,440 --> 02:49:27,360
Speaker 2: at least two or three of them boxes of them

3260
02:49:27,360 --> 02:49:30,920
Speaker 2: soup dumplings. Doll and the shoe my good too. You

3261
02:49:30,959 --> 02:49:32,520
Speaker 2: know you gotta put a little water on them for

3262
02:49:32,520 --> 02:49:34,480
Speaker 2: your microwave, but them shits come out good too. I

3263
02:49:34,520 --> 02:49:36,560
Speaker 2: ain't even think about steaming them yet, but you're right.

3264
02:49:36,920 --> 02:49:39,480
Speaker 2: I'm going back and I'm gonna steam them shits because

3265
02:49:39,520 --> 02:49:40,480
Speaker 2: now I got a steamer.

3266
02:49:41,080 --> 02:49:42,199
Speaker 4: Let's go steamers.

3267
02:49:43,160 --> 02:49:44,600
Speaker 2: I had not even thought about that.

3268
02:49:44,720 --> 02:49:47,279
Speaker 4: And we only got one level. We ain't got fast,

3269
02:49:47,320 --> 02:49:50,160
Speaker 4: ain't got got the second level to double topic.

3270
02:49:50,800 --> 02:49:55,840
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. The motherfucker boy TJ's know what's up. I

3271
02:49:55,879 --> 02:49:57,960
Speaker 2: know they they got some shit about them. I'm definitely

3272
02:49:58,000 --> 02:50:01,000
Speaker 2: ain't googling nothing with them. That shit too good to

3273
02:50:01,040 --> 02:50:04,560
Speaker 2: be all good. Also, I appreciate the pettiness of in

3274
02:50:04,720 --> 02:50:08,000
Speaker 2: part waiting wanting to try New York as Chicago style

3275
02:50:08,400 --> 02:50:11,000
Speaker 2: just to be able to tell their annoying proselytizers off,

3276
02:50:11,320 --> 02:50:13,960
Speaker 2: even though both styles are great. I can relate to

3277
02:50:14,000 --> 02:50:17,520
Speaker 2: that motivation chairs love and stay safe. John. Well, you know,

3278
02:50:17,600 --> 02:50:20,200
Speaker 2: since the last time we talked, I've had two Chicago

3279
02:50:20,240 --> 02:50:23,920
Speaker 2: Deep This pizzas.

3280
02:50:24,879 --> 02:50:28,640
Speaker 3: We also had the New York pizza.

3281
02:50:29,800 --> 02:50:30,920
Speaker 2: So right now it's a tip.

3282
02:50:31,000 --> 02:50:35,520
Speaker 4: But but but you see, I I for me, I

3283
02:50:35,560 --> 02:50:38,240
Speaker 4: am not a good judge of character when it comes

3284
02:50:38,240 --> 02:50:42,240
Speaker 4: to Pisa, because pizza is my favorite food. Pizza in

3285
02:50:42,280 --> 02:50:45,039
Speaker 4: the morning, pizza in the evening, pizza in the afternoon,

3286
02:50:45,120 --> 02:50:48,840
Speaker 4: if you let me do it. So I just like pizza.

3287
02:50:49,160 --> 02:50:50,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but I.

3288
02:50:50,480 --> 02:50:53,200
Speaker 2: Am a good judge. And uh it's a tie.

3289
02:50:53,320 --> 02:50:54,440
Speaker 4: Yeah I was eating Papa John.

3290
02:50:54,600 --> 02:50:57,640
Speaker 2: So yeah, she don't know nothing, but she just said

3291
02:50:57,640 --> 02:51:01,840
Speaker 2: that I'm disagreeing with you, mad at me. Lastly, Mary

3292
02:51:01,840 --> 02:51:03,720
Speaker 2: Wright said, how Rod and Karen, first of all, glad

3293
02:51:03,720 --> 02:51:05,959
Speaker 2: to see you're taking more days off. Man, we got

3294
02:51:05,959 --> 02:51:08,440
Speaker 2: some dope fans because almost all of them to a

3295
02:51:08,520 --> 02:51:10,720
Speaker 2: tea have been like, it's cool with y'all dialing back

3296
02:51:10,760 --> 02:51:15,440
Speaker 2: to schedule and thank you, because you know, some people

3297
02:51:15,480 --> 02:51:18,800
Speaker 2: didn't like it. Some people, you know, gonna have comments

3298
02:51:18,840 --> 02:51:19,720
Speaker 2: and they're gonna say.

3299
02:51:19,600 --> 02:51:21,119
Speaker 4: And I know, y'all just do it out of love.

3300
02:51:21,240 --> 02:51:23,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, they allowed to not like it. It's still ultimately

3301
02:51:23,520 --> 02:51:25,440
Speaker 2: a good thing that they want more Ridan Karen, But

3302
02:51:26,400 --> 02:51:28,720
Speaker 2: I refuse to burn myself out here.

3303
02:51:28,760 --> 02:51:28,960
Speaker 5: Man.

3304
02:51:29,040 --> 02:51:30,880
Speaker 3: I don't want to get to that point.

3305
02:51:31,160 --> 02:51:33,840
Speaker 2: It's gonna be ugly and then it becomes we got

3306
02:51:33,879 --> 02:51:36,039
Speaker 2: to take care off because I'm going back. You know, No,

3307
02:51:36,160 --> 02:51:39,320
Speaker 2: let's not do that. And I kind of wanted to

3308
02:51:39,360 --> 02:51:42,480
Speaker 2: experiment with this schedule to see, if you know, how

3309
02:51:42,720 --> 02:51:44,959
Speaker 2: how it would do with our numbers, how it would

3310
02:51:44,959 --> 02:51:47,400
Speaker 2: do with our rest and relaxation, and what it would

3311
02:51:47,400 --> 02:51:49,720
Speaker 2: feel like to have time off which we never have.

3312
02:51:50,760 --> 02:51:53,200
Speaker 2: First of all, let's see you taking more days off.

3313
02:51:53,240 --> 02:51:55,000
Speaker 2: As someone who is now banked over four weeks of

3314
02:51:55,040 --> 02:51:57,680
Speaker 2: vacation time during the pandemic, I've been slow to use them,

3315
02:51:57,680 --> 02:51:58,680
Speaker 2: and I have felt it.

3316
02:51:58,879 --> 02:52:01,680
Speaker 3: I will be taking more scheduled days off myself.

3317
02:52:02,200 --> 02:52:04,720
Speaker 2: Anyway. I wanted to add to a coronavirus story you

3318
02:52:04,720 --> 02:52:08,640
Speaker 2: did about Singapore no longer paying for hospital expenses of

3319
02:52:08,720 --> 02:52:11,800
Speaker 2: willingly unvaccinated people. My brother and his family lived there

3320
02:52:11,800 --> 02:52:14,120
Speaker 2: and I texted my god so slash nephew to congratulate

3321
02:52:14,160 --> 02:52:16,520
Speaker 2: him on the news. The conversation led to him saying

3322
02:52:16,560 --> 02:52:19,800
Speaker 2: that in Singapore, vaccinated unvaccinated people live very different lines.

3323
02:52:20,000 --> 02:52:22,720
Speaker 2: My nephew sent me a screenshot of this app or

3324
02:52:22,760 --> 02:52:25,760
Speaker 2: his phone or his phone with an attached picture. Every

3325
02:52:26,520 --> 02:52:29,840
Speaker 2: Singapore is required to use this app together Trace Together

3326
02:52:30,720 --> 02:52:33,560
Speaker 2: for vaccine status and contact tracing. You must scan it

3327
02:52:33,600 --> 02:52:36,800
Speaker 2: to get into mall's, restaurants, etc. And there are people

3328
02:52:36,879 --> 02:52:39,320
Speaker 2: stationed to make sure everyone actually does it. Not only

3329
02:52:39,320 --> 02:52:41,039
Speaker 2: does it ping you if you come into contact with

3330
02:52:41,080 --> 02:52:43,480
Speaker 2: someone who has COVID, but as other functions as well.

3331
02:52:43,520 --> 02:52:45,560
Speaker 2: For example, the number at the top says sixty two

3332
02:52:45,600 --> 02:52:48,440
Speaker 2: total exchanges today, meaning he passed by sixty two people

3333
02:52:48,480 --> 02:52:51,360
Speaker 2: that day. Holy shit. It works on Bluetooth and picks

3334
02:52:51,440 --> 02:52:54,800
Speaker 2: up people within two meters. The favorites icons are places

3335
02:52:54,840 --> 02:52:57,119
Speaker 2: he goes too often. Yes, the downside of the government

3336
02:52:57,160 --> 02:52:59,280
Speaker 2: is really up in your business, but the people that

3337
02:52:59,560 --> 02:53:02,000
Speaker 2: there are you still havevy government presence in exchange, the

3338
02:53:02,040 --> 02:53:03,800
Speaker 2: government takes care of them, so it's a trade off.

3339
02:53:04,040 --> 02:53:06,560
Speaker 2: There are also rumblings that the app also makes it

3340
02:53:06,600 --> 02:53:08,760
Speaker 2: easy to trace people who sneak into the country illegally.

3341
02:53:08,800 --> 02:53:12,000
Speaker 2: And while normally I would be apprehensive about this during

3342
02:53:12,000 --> 02:53:14,440
Speaker 2: the pandemic, well I'm not sure. I won't people come

3343
02:53:14,440 --> 02:53:18,160
Speaker 2: into my country unchecked, right right? He then asked, get this.

3344
02:53:18,400 --> 02:53:21,040
Speaker 2: Do they not do that in America? You guys? I

3345
02:53:21,160 --> 02:53:23,840
Speaker 2: just laughed and laughed and laugh They have had this

3346
02:53:23,920 --> 02:53:28,440
Speaker 2: app for over a year. Wow. I then had a

3347
02:53:28,480 --> 02:53:31,240
Speaker 2: sixteen year old explained to me that contact tracing is

3348
02:53:31,640 --> 02:53:34,360
Speaker 2: in a pandemic one on one and why it is

3349
02:53:34,360 --> 02:53:36,840
Speaker 2: so important. Sheesh. I told them not to come to America.

3350
02:53:37,000 --> 02:53:40,640
Speaker 2: That is the worst. That is the worst. Yeah, don't

3351
02:53:40,680 --> 02:53:46,280
Speaker 2: do this, stay from around here anyway. Thanks, but now right,

3352
02:53:47,080 --> 02:53:49,400
Speaker 2: like this is one of those like you ever told

3353
02:53:49,400 --> 02:53:52,080
Speaker 2: somebody go back to their country but you envious? Yes,

3354
02:53:53,160 --> 02:53:55,080
Speaker 2: it's like it's a not a racist way, it's a

3355
02:53:55,080 --> 02:53:57,120
Speaker 2: good way. Like I want to come to America. Like,

3356
02:53:57,280 --> 02:53:59,320
Speaker 2: just go back to your country.

3357
02:53:58,959 --> 02:54:02,240
Speaker 4: Don't get but where the pandemic Singapore?

3358
02:54:02,400 --> 02:54:04,920
Speaker 2: Go back to Singapore. I promise you.

3359
02:54:04,440 --> 02:54:06,600
Speaker 3: You do not want to deal with this bullshit.

3360
02:54:06,879 --> 02:54:09,800
Speaker 4: O child the ghetto gone get.

3361
02:54:09,560 --> 02:54:11,760
Speaker 2: Now anyway, Thanks for the great shows. Keep up to

3362
02:54:11,760 --> 02:54:14,320
Speaker 2: go work, but keep taking your rest breaks too. We

3363
02:54:14,360 --> 02:54:17,320
Speaker 2: will we will, like I said, probably take a couple

3364
02:54:17,320 --> 02:54:19,800
Speaker 2: more days off this week. Probably see y'all Tuesday and Wednesday,

3365
02:54:19,959 --> 02:54:24,720
Speaker 2: or wait, Wednesday, I think we have a Hornets game. Uh,

3366
02:54:25,160 --> 02:54:27,160
Speaker 2: but the season has been changed, so we're gonna see

3367
02:54:27,200 --> 02:54:28,000
Speaker 2: how the experience is.

3368
02:54:28,240 --> 02:54:29,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm excited about that.

3369
02:54:29,680 --> 02:54:31,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gonna be sitting in a in a section

3370
02:54:31,879 --> 02:54:34,120
Speaker 2: without that, without a lot of people in it, we

3371
02:54:34,800 --> 02:54:37,160
Speaker 2: won't be sitting down. We're gonna find out. We're gonna

3372
02:54:37,200 --> 02:54:39,240
Speaker 2: find out if we can go ahead and keep going

3373
02:54:39,240 --> 02:54:40,000
Speaker 2: to games or not.

3374
02:54:41,560 --> 02:54:43,119
Speaker 4: A separate bathroom. I like that.

3375
02:54:43,280 --> 02:54:46,600
Speaker 2: The way these tickets are set up, it won't. It won't.

3376
02:54:46,920 --> 02:54:49,039
Speaker 2: The way these tickets are set up, it sounded like

3377
02:54:49,160 --> 02:54:52,400
Speaker 2: we won't be going as many games, but we're gonna

3378
02:54:52,400 --> 02:54:54,200
Speaker 2: see if we can keep going to games. So Wednesday

3379
02:54:54,200 --> 02:54:57,080
Speaker 2: we won't be recording, I'm pretty sure, but maybe Tuesday

3380
02:54:58,640 --> 02:55:02,280
Speaker 2: and maybe either Monday Tuesday or Sunday Tuesday, so we'll see.

3381
02:55:02,640 --> 02:55:05,240
Speaker 2: All right, y'all, thanks for listening. Really appreciate y'all as

3382
02:55:05,280 --> 02:55:07,440
Speaker 2: a long feedback, but y'all deserve that. Y'all were dope,

3383
02:55:07,520 --> 02:55:10,080
Speaker 2: great questions. Shout out to my man Uncle.

3384
02:55:10,200 --> 02:55:13,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, shout out for calling in Baby. I am very

3385
02:55:13,080 --> 02:55:17,080
Speaker 4: glad that you are very positive and you would want

3386
02:55:17,120 --> 02:55:18,760
Speaker 4: them trolls baby, because we've.

3387
02:55:18,600 --> 02:55:21,440
Speaker 2: Dealt with trolls. Yeah. Appreciate you and we'll talk to

3388
02:55:21,480 --> 02:55:23,959
Speaker 2: y'all soon. Tell until then, I love you.

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02:55:24,040 --> 02:55:24,520
Speaker 4: I love you too,