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Speaker 1: Welcome to The Favorites, the podcast presented by BET three

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Speaker 1: sixty five, part of the Action Network. I am Chad Milman,

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Speaker 1: Chief Content Officer of the Action Network. We are continuing

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Speaker 1: our division preview series here on The Favorites. Today we

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Speaker 1: are talking AFC West, I think the most interesting division

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Speaker 1: in football. Plus Thursday night we got the Hall of

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Speaker 1: Fame game between the Jets and the Browns. So much

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Speaker 1: to unpack with my bff, my companion, my compadre professional

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Speaker 1: better mister Simon Hunter.

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Speaker 2: Eto, So I am.

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Speaker 3: In, Hello Chad. Yes, football is back, my guy.

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Speaker 2: Are you gonna watch the game tonight?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 4: And we're in the boat with people that it's awful.

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Speaker 4: But then I got to remind people people watch college football.

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Speaker 4: High school football is better than that apparently, so it's terrible.

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Speaker 4: But we got football backchat Listen.

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Speaker 1: I'm so excited about it. I realized this morning. And

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Speaker 1: we're going to talk a little bit about our take

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 1: I didn't have to think. Am I gonna watch Righteous Gemstones?

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Speaker 1: Like, I don't have to think about what I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: that I'm going to watch, and it's real, live NFL football,

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Speaker 1: even if it's Zach Wilson, even if it's the Cleveland Browns.

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Speaker 1: Monday talking about betting the preseason. I have a very

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Speaker 1: strong opinion on this game, the first preseason game of

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Speaker 1: the year. What is your take both preseason broadly and

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Speaker 1: on this game.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say I'm betting this game, Chad, But

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Speaker 4: do I really have a huge edge?

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Speaker 3: Now?

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Speaker 4: I'm just betting it because football is back and I

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Speaker 4: want some action. I want some action on this game,

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Speaker 4: and I want some action on fading Zach Wilson. So

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Speaker 4: I did take the Browns at plus one and a

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Speaker 4: half us too. No real logical other than every one

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Speaker 4: of their grandmam's taking the Jets. And you know, I

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Speaker 4: get it. Zach Wilson's a known name. He should perform

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Speaker 4: better than the Browns quarterbacks.

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Speaker 3: But you know, it's just.

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Speaker 4: I like I like back in running quarterbacks. A lot

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Speaker 4: of other people really don't. But in preseason I tend

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Speaker 4: but I know.

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Speaker 3: That this is.

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Speaker 4: This is one of those games, yet we just bet

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Speaker 4: to bet, right, It's just it's the first game of

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Speaker 3: It's kind of those we just got to do it.

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Speaker 4: So it's probably gonna be my smallest bet of the season,

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Speaker 4: but it is my first bet of the season.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 1: So I was sort of trying to figure out what

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Speaker 1: I opened the Action Network AAP and the lead story

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Speaker 1: is by Chris Raybon analyzing the game for tonight. Here's

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Speaker 1: his opening line, and it got me already to bet

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Speaker 1: this game. In the latest bit of evidence that the

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Speaker 1: world as we know it is coming to an end,

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Speaker 1: seventy eight percent of the public has decided to kick

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Speaker 1: off the twenty twenty three NFL season by betting, and

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Speaker 2: The totals at thirty three and a half.

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Speaker 1: Am I going to end up betting the over in

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Speaker 1: the first game, in the Hall of Fame game between

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Speaker 1: Preseason overs with a total below thirty seven are sixty

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Speaker 1: So I bet the over. I bet the over thirty

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Speaker 1: Can't no higher tonight.

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Speaker 3: There you go.

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Speaker 4: And I saw sala Is five and one in his

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Speaker 4: early career here in preseason game straight up. So I'm

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Speaker 4: going against the grain taking taking the Browns. But Chad,

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Speaker 4: just nail on the head.

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Speaker 3: It is.

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Speaker 4: The first preseason game of the year. People don't don't

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Speaker 2: It's stupid yet so fun. Yeah, so so fun.

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Speaker 1: Reminded, Look, I'm reminded that everybody comes around to betting

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Speaker 1: preseason football. Once upon a time, Trey Wingo tweeted, who

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Speaker 1: would bet on preseason football? Only an idiot would bet

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Speaker 1: on preseason football. Soon enough, Trey Wingo was working for Caesars.

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Speaker 1: So it all comes around. Everyone realizes it A true story.

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Speaker 1: The first published story I ever had as a journalist.

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Speaker 1: I was an intern for Pro Football Weekly, which was

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Speaker 1: and it was they were finishing the summer. I was

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Speaker 2: I was.

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Speaker 1: I always made a point to do all the filing

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Speaker 1: was having his big editorial meeting. So I overheard them saying,

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Speaker 1: made it up. He's like, yeah, that sounds great, you

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Speaker 3: And that my kids. Is called initiative. Always have initiatives.

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Speaker 1: Oh it put yourself in the right place at the

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Speaker 1: right time. That's the advice I always give people. Be

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Speaker 1: where the jobs are. Say yes, be nice, be where

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Speaker 1: the jobs are. Anyways, that's our take on career. That's

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Speaker 1: our take on the New York Jets Cleveland Browns Hall

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Speaker 1: of Fame game. I'm so excited for our AFC West

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Speaker 1: is the most polarizing in Russell Wilson. Either you believe

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Speaker 3: Yeah, pretty much nailed on the head.

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Speaker 2: So here we go.

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Speaker 1: We got the AFC West, We got the Chiefs, we

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Speaker 1: Chiefs minus one sixty on bet three sixty five Chargers

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Speaker 1: plus three hundred to win the division, Uncles plus five

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Speaker 1: talk about season win totals for all these teams. Who

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Speaker 1: do you want to start with, Simon, what's the most

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Speaker 1: interesting angle of season win totals and division odds for

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean, for a little listener to the show,

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Speaker 1: A lot of books it's seven and a half minus

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Speaker 3: Like they're head coach. I just we've yet to see

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Speaker 4: We've had this guy now coach multiple teams for different seasons,

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Speaker 4: Again, I hate to shoot on this Raiders team because

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Speaker 4: They're going to be a like Devanta Adams. I can

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Speaker 4: people keep saying, well, that's this team set up for

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I'm looking here, bet three six y five.

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Speaker 4: If you're a fan of the show, you know last

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Speaker 4: I think most people don't know that Denver just has

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Speaker 3: So I get it, people. I was all in on

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Speaker 3: To me, they still have all the weapons on offense.

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Speaker 1: Sean Payton is one of those guys who, over the

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Speaker 1: you paying that fine? I gotta find that I'm not

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Speaker 1: paying that fine. What is the matter with you? He

441
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Speaker 1: just seems like I'm doing what i want to do.

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Speaker 1: I'm a football guy, I'm from the parcels Camp. All

443
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Speaker 1: I care about is football, and he's going to come

444
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Speaker 1: in and make that team so much better because he

445
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Speaker 1: is so single mindedly focused on improving the football team.

446
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Speaker 1: And if you talk about how good that defense was

447
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Speaker 1: last year, if you talk about Judy being healthy, if

448
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Speaker 1: you talk about Sutton being healthy, if Javonte Williams can

449
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Speaker 1: come back from his knee injury and he's healthy, here's

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Speaker 1: what's interesting. So according to PFF, the broncos O line

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Speaker 1: is number eleven overall in the NFL. But one of

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Speaker 1: the reasons why they were downgraded, you're shaking your head.

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Speaker 1: I want to get to that. One of the reasons

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Speaker 1: why they were downgraded last year is because Russell Wilson

455
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Speaker 1: was so bad in the pocket and took so many sacks,

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Speaker 1: so his sort of percentage of sacks taken against pressure

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Speaker 1: rate was much much higher and made the broncos O

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Speaker 1: line look worse. So if they can do some of

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Speaker 1: the things you're talking about, where he gets out of

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Speaker 1: the pocket shortter roots puts him in a better position

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Speaker 1: to get rid of the ball, that oline all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden looks significantly better.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I definitely think that that rating is based off

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Speaker 4: last year because I have them top ten, I have

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Speaker 4: him at number eight.

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Speaker 3: And it's not only.

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Speaker 4: Are they a great run blocking offensive line, they are

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Speaker 4: tough man Like. If you go back and watch a

469
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Speaker 4: lot like you just said, a lot of those sacks

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Speaker 4: that was on Russ, It's same thing with what I

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Speaker 4: feel like a lot of teams go through with these

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Speaker 4: running quarterbacks of they're always trying to make that extra play,

473
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Speaker 4: holding on to it too long. That's what I'm hoping

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Speaker 4: Champagne correct you of you make the first couple of reads, right,

475
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Speaker 4: Russell Wilson, then you get out of the pocket. No

476
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Speaker 4: more standing in there holding on to it forever. You

477
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Speaker 4: need to make a couple of reads and then get

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Speaker 4: out of the pocket, which I do think he struggled

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Speaker 4: with last year. So yeah, it's it's the classic. If

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Speaker 4: you were on the Broncos last year, how can you

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Speaker 4: not be on this year? It's just don't be better,

482
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Speaker 4: don't be mad that you were a little bit early

483
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Speaker 4: on it. This really is it to me? This is

484
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Speaker 4: like a two year window for here for Russell Wilson.

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Speaker 4: Of I think Champain' is gonna give him this year

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Speaker 4: next year and then after that if he doesn't get

487
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Speaker 4: any type of playoff success from him or anything.

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Speaker 3: It's over.

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Speaker 4: So eight and a half, Chad, this is truly a treat.

490
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Speaker 4: I got them at over ten wins, So I do

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Speaker 4: really do love this number for this Denver Bronco team.

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Speaker 1: I want to go back for one second. I wrote

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Speaker 1: down a question that I forgot to ask you.

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Speaker 2: You said.

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Speaker 1: For this about the Raiders. Sorry, I'm bouncing back, but

496
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Speaker 1: I wrote it down and I forgot to ask it.

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Speaker 1: You said that you really thought this team's issue was

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Speaker 1: Josh McDaniels.

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Speaker 2: Did you see that in film?

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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 2: What makes you say that?

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Speaker 3: A little bit?

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Speaker 4: I just didn't think he was spending Derek Carr in

504
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Speaker 4: the best position, like the he kind of left them

505
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Speaker 4: out there to drive, and they moved off.

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Speaker 3: They moved off of them after one year, where you know.

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Speaker 4: I think that's a pretty big deal that this this

508
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Speaker 4: guy who's been this franchise's face, you know, moved to

509
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Speaker 4: them from lost from Oakland to Las Vegas. And I

510
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Speaker 4: get it they were upset that he didn't produce when

511
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Speaker 4: they got him Devonte Adams and like all these weapons

512
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Speaker 4: stuff like that.

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Speaker 3: But if you go back and watch the offense. It

514
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Speaker 3: just wasn't really smart.

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Speaker 4: And you know, it's it's an interesting situation where they

516
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Speaker 4: have all the weapons there, right, they got Hunter Renfro,

517
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Speaker 4: they got Josh Jacobs, they should be good. But I

518
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Speaker 4: just don't think Jimmy g's the answer to that. So,

519
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Speaker 4: especially McDaniel's offense, I think most people would agree that, yes,

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Speaker 4: he was a great coach. What him and Tom Brady

521
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Speaker 4: do is incredible. Whoever is around Tom Brady apparently he

522
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Speaker 4: is a good coach. Right, It's like Byron Leftwich was

523
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Speaker 4: a great coach in Tampa when he had Tom Brady there.

524
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Speaker 4: So it is tough to really judge McDaniels. All I

525
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Speaker 4: can do is judge him off what he's done without

526
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Speaker 4: Tom Brady, and that to me has not been good.

527
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Speaker 4: So it's a big red flag where a lot of

528
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Speaker 4: his offensive scheme, he would build his own offense around

529
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Speaker 4: his own scheme. He wouldn't build around the player, which

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Speaker 4: in twenty twenty three, that just does not work. If

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Speaker 4: you see any smart team that builds an offense, they

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Speaker 4: build around their talent skill set, which we're about to

533
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Speaker 4: talk about the Chargers. That's a big difference to scumb

534
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Speaker 4: and seeing the Chargers. They're gonna build this offers around

535
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Speaker 4: Herbert's strength, which is going downfield, like that's got the

536
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Speaker 4: kid's biggest strength. So to me, that's what was lacking

537
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Speaker 4: last of the Raiders. They didn't really maximize Derek Carr strengths.

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Speaker 4: Now they have Jimmy Juw's strainths are what check downs.

539
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Speaker 4: I don't really know what Jimmy g straints are. So

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Speaker 4: that's just a train wreck of a team there.

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Speaker 1: You know what's interesting to me, We're two teams through

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Speaker 1: the AFC West. Two bets that we love, three bests

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Speaker 1: that we love. The Broncos plus five point fifty, the

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Speaker 1: Broncos over eight and a half, the Raiders under six

545
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Speaker 1: and a half. I think what makes this so much

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Speaker 1: more interesting than when we did the NFC West is

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Speaker 1: in the NFC West, we basically liked one bet the

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Speaker 1: Rams over six and a half, maybe the Rams plus

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Speaker 1: nine hundred. Everything else we're like, eh and kind of

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Speaker 1: milk toast, kind of middle of the road. We're strong

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Speaker 1: on the af West. You know what else is strong?

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Speaker 1: Simon the Game Time app. You guys have heard us

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Speaker 2: Get run. Well.

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Speaker 1: Look you mentioned the Chargers. Justin Herbert just signed a

570
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Speaker 1: massive new contract. Until Joe Burrow signs his extension, he

571
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Speaker 1: will be the highest paid quarterback in the NFL. The

572
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Speaker 1: Chargers have been an enigma right so much talent Eckler

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Speaker 1: Alan Herbert Williams underperforming consistently. Either their coach is making

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Speaker 1: terrible decisions, high risk decisions on fourth downs that are

575
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Speaker 1: even beyond sort of the pressure testing of analytics. Last

576
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Speaker 1: year spectacular collapse in the playoffs, they fire Joe Lombardi,

577
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Speaker 1: their offensive coordinator. Either the Chargers are too cheap to

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Speaker 1: get rid of the entire coaching staff, so they keep

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Speaker 1: the head coach because they don't want to pay two

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Speaker 1: of them, or they decide Brandon Staley is the guy,

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Speaker 1: just give him a new offensive coordinator.

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Speaker 2: They bring in Kellen Moore.

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Speaker 1: You say that the Chargers offense will improve because they

584
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Speaker 1: will take advantage of Justin Herbert's talents. Chargers right now

585
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Speaker 1: plus three hundred to win the Vision nine and a

586
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Speaker 1: half is the season win total minusive to the over

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Speaker 1: plus one hundred to the under.

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Speaker 2: Are we buyers or sellers on the Chargers right now?

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Speaker 4: I can tell you this channel. I was in Vegas

590
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Speaker 4: two weeks ago. This is who the pros love. The

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Speaker 4: pros love the Chargers. They love their futures, they love

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Speaker 4: their win total, they love their division odds. I'll take

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Speaker 4: their over a win totals, but I'm not touching their

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Speaker 4: division odds.

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Speaker 3: I just can't do it. I get where they're coming from.

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Speaker 4: They think this is this is the kid that's going

597
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Speaker 4: to thrown my Homes totally get it that they should

598
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Speaker 4: be well improved on offense this year. You know this kid,

599
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Speaker 4: who knows if he had broken ribs last year, but

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Speaker 4: he definitely wasn't right. He definitely took about four to

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Speaker 4: five weeks there to get right. He just you could

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Speaker 4: tell every time he threw the ball he was wincing.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I'll never forget that Seahawks game. I'm pretty

604
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Speaker 4: sure they lost every throw he made. Every time he

605
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Speaker 4: stepped into the pocket. You could see his face just

606
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Speaker 4: wins anytime you throw the ball. And that's just that's

607
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 4: just brutal play with So to me, the kid, you know,

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Speaker 4: I knew, I knew he was smart, knew he had

609
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Speaker 4: a hell of a talent in his arm. Now you

610
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Speaker 4: know he's tough as shit. That's that's really you can't

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Speaker 4: ask for much more if you're a Chargers fan, like

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Speaker 4: you literally have hit the jackpot in Herbert. And you know,

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Speaker 4: I get why people were upset that I had him

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Speaker 4: over Hurts in my top five. It's like, what has

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Speaker 4: this kid ever done? Why would he be over Hurts?

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Speaker 4: Who's been to a super Bowl? He's that good, Like

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Speaker 4: you watch if you're a real football nerd. You love

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Speaker 4: watching this kid. He is incredible and it's so God given,

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Speaker 4: Like there are so many times where plays broke down

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Speaker 4: whatever it was, and he stepped up with mad throws

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Speaker 4: that are just I mean, in the history of the league,

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Speaker 4: there's maybe four guys can make these kind of throws.

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Speaker 4: He's just that that atypical quarterback of He's big, he's strong,

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Speaker 4: he's got a hell of an arm, and he's crazy smart.

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Speaker 4: So you know that, that to me is another team

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Speaker 4: where by changing their offensive coordinator, the shit huge upgrade

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Speaker 4: here with Herbert And you know all you can do

628
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 4: is hope Keenan Allen's gonna be healthy, Mike Williams will

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Speaker 4: be healthy, because that's that's gonna be a huge difference

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Speaker 4: to this team. Like that's the only way they can

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Speaker 4: to throw in this Chiefs team. So I don't think

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Speaker 4: the value there is in them Divisionally, I think they

633
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Speaker 4: should be closer to what the Broncos are, but they're not,

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Speaker 4: just because they didn't have a year from hell like

635
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Speaker 4: the Broncos did last year and they made the playoffs, Like, yes,

636
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Speaker 4: they completely choked and melted that game away to the Jaguars,

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Speaker 4: but they're in it like they were in that game.

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Speaker 4: You know, I don't want to say this is a big,

639
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Speaker 4: big make or break year for this Chargers team, but

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Speaker 4: it feels a little bit that way, right.

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Speaker 3: It's like you just say it, does it?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Like you have the window with Justin Herbert. We've talked

644
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Speaker 1: about this so many times and we've seen it come

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Speaker 1: to fruition, like your window to get to the super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: Now when the salary cap era of the NFL is

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Speaker 1: when you find a great quarterback, you play him early,

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Speaker 1: he succeeds, and in those first four to five years

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Speaker 1: you can build a team around him. Right, That's what

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Speaker 1: they need to do. And they're kind of like they

651
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Speaker 1: just put all the money into Justin Herbert. They need

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Speaker 1: to figure it out now because if not, how are

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Speaker 1: they going to build a team around him going forward?

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Speaker 4: You nailed it, I mean until Mahomes last year. We

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Speaker 4: had a run there of everyone doing on the rookie contracts.

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Speaker 4: Mahomes like the first real guy to be taken, Like

657
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 4: what was the thirty percent of his team salary cap

658
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 4: to win a Super Bowl?

659
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 2: That's estate to how good Mahomes.

660
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 4: Is, right exactly, So you know Herbert's draft class. It's early,

661
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 4: but holy shit, was at a great draft class. You

662
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 4: got Joe Burrow, Herbert too, and then then Hurts pretty

663
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 4: pretty incredible that you got two guys from your draft

664
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 4: class already played in Super Bowl and Herbert arguably is

665
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 4: the best one in this group. But you know we

666
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 4: have Joe rate to hire because Joe has done more right.

667
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 4: Joe is gone to the AFC Championship Game two out

668
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 4: of the three last year like years like this kid

669
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 4: is incredible. So you know, I wasn't shocked in all

670
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 4: the pros I talk to how they're all so high

671
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 4: in this Chargers team. I just my argument to them was,

672
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 4: I just think there's a better value on this Denver team,

673
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 4: and the Denver is gonna have an easier schedule just

674
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:11,279
Speaker 4: because of where they finished last year. Where you know

675
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 4: this is gonna do be a test for this Discharger's

676
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:14,879
Speaker 4: team this year.

677
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:15,839
Speaker 3: I think you nailed at chat.

678
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,880
Speaker 4: It's it really is do or die like your next year,

679
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:20,880
Speaker 4: the money's gonna start kick geting for this Chargers team.

680
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 4: They're not gonna be able to keep around the Joey Bosas.

681
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 4: They're not gonna be able to keep around the Keenan

682
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 4: Allen's like, there's some of the people are gonna have

683
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:26,880
Speaker 4: to start walking.

684
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 3: So that's a fair point by you.

685
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:31,759
Speaker 4: It really is this year, next year for this team,

686
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,919
Speaker 4: and then what you're gonna be spending all this money

687
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 4: on this quarterback? He is, I believe, the highest paid

688
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 4: quarterback right now, right Herbert, because he signed the new,

689
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:44,320
Speaker 4: most recent deal. So yeah, Chad, I wasn't really thinking

690
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 4: like that, but you're you're dead on with that. It's

691
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 4: like once that money kicks in, that's gonna completely shift

692
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 4: your team. Not everyone has the ma Home type. So

693
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 4: which is funny now looking back, Mahomes is severely underpaid

694
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:57,919
Speaker 4: at the quarterback position. It's only been like two years

695
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 4: since he signed that deal, so it is constantly moving

696
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 4: in the Sleek Show.

697
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 1: Simon, I'm having a Rockham Sockham day right now. Just

698
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:08,879
Speaker 1: feel like things are lining up. And the fact that

699
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 1: you just said you agree with me, and it sounded

700
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:13,840
Speaker 1: like you genuinely believed it and were surprised by a

701
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:18,280
Speaker 1: comment I made that registered and sunk in. Matt Mitchell,

702
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 1: I want to make sure we clip that, hold on

703
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:23,360
Speaker 1: to that, hold it close to our hearts, like it's precious,

704
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 1: like a little tiny birdie that is going to be nurtured.

705
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 1: And let's just run it again and again and again.

706
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 3: Let's how you know it's five in the morning.

707
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:35,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, it's five in the morning. Simon can barely think.

708
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 1: He's still a little foggy, still still wiping away the cobwebs. Yeah,

709
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 1: whatever else happened last night, what'll be interesting. So look,

710
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 1: the Chargers have I'm looking at Kerner's rankings middle of

711
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:53,319
Speaker 1: the road schedule, fifteenth easiest. You didn't mention you mentioned

712
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:57,240
Speaker 1: Keenan Allen, You mentioned Mike Williams, you mentioned Bosa Rashaan Slater.

713
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,800
Speaker 1: That is a guy who could come up and cost

714
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 1: a crap load of money for this team. And you

715
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 1: need to be thinking about, like, how are we going

716
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:12,400
Speaker 1: to maintain an offensive line that continue to protect Justin Herbert.

717
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, they'll make it work. Like again, this is a

718
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:18,360
Speaker 4: team that I think they know what they need a

719
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 4: draft now. They need to start just drafting six or

720
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,280
Speaker 4: four wide receivers. You just need to get big body

721
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 4: guys who can go down the field and get these

722
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 4: deep balls from Herbert Austin Eckler. That's the biggest thing

723
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 4: to meet chat. It's like, you got what is he

724
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:35,799
Speaker 4: top two, top three running back of football right now?

725
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,399
Speaker 4: He is the perfect hybrid running back. He can catch

726
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 4: the ball, he can run the ball, fast as hell,

727
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 4: crazy smart. He will not be here for another year

728
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:46,879
Speaker 4: or two. Like this really is it for him as well?

729
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 4: So yeah, like you just said, it's just it's all

730
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,880
Speaker 4: there for Herbert. If he doesn't produce this year, I

731
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:54,799
Speaker 4: have no doubt in my mind, well both of us.

732
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 4: I think we'll drop him out of our top five

733
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,840
Speaker 4: next year. It's like we're kind of putting the pressure

734
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 4: on him. Well deserved, have all the talent you got,

735
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 4: the new OC, you're changing the offense to be catered

736
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 4: more towards your strengths. Really, no more excuses for Herbert.

737
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 4: He's just such a likable kid. It's hard to shit

738
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 4: on him. It's about that time, Chad, like this is

739
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:16,319
Speaker 4: really it for the kid where we know how much

740
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 4: talent you have, or you're gonna be another Dan Marina,

741
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 4: which is all the talent in the world and never

742
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 4: producing that Super Bowl. Or you're gonna be like Mahomes

743
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 4: and you're gonna step up in these clutch moments, And

744
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 4: that's really what we're looking for here with from Herbert,

745
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:29,959
Speaker 4: where he's gonna take that next step where he's gonna

746
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 4: be this guy where every year he gets his team

747
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 4: to ten to eleven wins, make the playoffs, and then

748
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 4: just peters out once he makes the playoffs. So yeah,

749
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 4: of all the quarterbacks now that I'm thinking about, he

750
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 4: might be number one or two most pressure head end

751
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 4: of the season.

752
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 2: It's interesting you mentioned that Joe Burrow stuff. Joe Burrow's

753
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 2: gotten further. But also this is.

754
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 1: The classic justin Herbert just focuses on football, doesn't make

755
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 1: a lot of noise, doesn't do it with tremendous style,

756
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:03,840
Speaker 1: and you've got like Joe Burrow who does it with

757
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 1: all style behind a terrible offensive line, and because he

758
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:09,880
Speaker 1: makes it look good under pressure in moments when he

759
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 1: shouldn't even be under pressure, he's naturally elevated. And he'll

760
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 1: be the highest paid quarterback as soon as he negotiates

761
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 1: his deal. All right, Last team, Kana City Chiefs. Eleven

762
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 1: and a half is the season win total minus one

763
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 1: forty to the over. They're minus one sixty to win

764
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:34,879
Speaker 1: the division. The under is plus one hundred. I think

765
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:40,840
Speaker 1: one ten at Bet three sixty five, kind of rebuilding

766
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 1: their offensive line again for the second time in as

767
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:47,840
Speaker 1: many years, getting some new tackles, but still really highly ranked,

768
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:51,840
Speaker 1: probably a top five offensive line because they're the best

769
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 1: team in their division. Their schedule, according to Sean Kerner,

770
00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:01,319
Speaker 1: remarkably easy. Anything that interest us about the Kansas City

771
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 1: Chiefs right now.

772
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 4: No, It's a team that I was crazy high on

773
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:09,399
Speaker 4: last year, and I got really lucky that everything broke

774
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 4: right for this team. Like should they have been the

775
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 4: one seed? No, that easily should have been the Bills

776
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:18,839
Speaker 4: or Cincinnati. Because of a technicality, they ended up being

777
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 4: the number one seed. That was great. Then they had

778
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:25,279
Speaker 4: beaten the Jaguars. Mahomes gets hurt. Chad Henny comes in,

779
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:27,800
Speaker 4: He drives the field ninety eight yards against the Jaguars

780
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 4: and scores a touchdown. They end up winning that game

781
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:33,279
Speaker 4: by seven points. The following game, they got some weird

782
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 4: little BS call against the Bengals. You know, Mahomes definitely

783
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 4: got touched out of balance, but that was so soft

784
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:41,839
Speaker 4: right called that the end of the game, moved out

785
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 4: an extra fifteen yards able to kick that field goal.

786
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 3: They won the AFC Championship game by three points. Same thing.

787
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 4: They won Super Bowl by three points. This was a

788
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:55,319
Speaker 4: team that it's the classic Belichick and Brady scenario, right,

789
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 4: Belichick and Brady scenario. They didn't care how they won.

790
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:00,360
Speaker 4: All they cared about was winning. It was the ultimate

791
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 4: chess team, right. They just they kept moving pieces where

792
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 4: you look up and the game's tied and there's two

793
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 4: minutes to go and Brady had the ball, and you go,

794
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 4: how the hell did that happen? It's just that's how

795
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 4: that team kept winning. That that Patriots dynasty run. It

796
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:15,840
Speaker 4: feels like it's the same thing with this Mahomes dynasty.

797
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:19,400
Speaker 4: Or it's like, you don't he can be sluggish, he

798
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 4: can be laying, like not playing that well. All of

799
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 4: a sudden Andy remix with second half adjustments and it's

800
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 4: just like a puletely different game. Like that's this team's strength.

801
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:30,759
Speaker 4: They just you know, they have a top two, top

802
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 4: three all time head coach, and then they have one

803
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 4: of the most talented quarterbacks we've seen since Tom Brady.

804
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,399
Speaker 4: I mean, that's that's who Mahomes is chasing right now.

805
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:44,720
Speaker 4: Are you not paidon Manning? There's no one else, It's Brady.

806
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:48,919
Speaker 4: That's the level we put Mahomes and so I'm gonna

807
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,959
Speaker 4: take you to take an under on Tom Brady, which

808
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 4: I would never do, but I'm asking to take it

809
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 4: here in Mahomes. And it's tough Chad. He's never gone

810
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:02,320
Speaker 4: under his win total. Kid has always outperformed the number.

811
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 4: He just we said it seven straight years. They've won

812
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 4: this division with Andy Reid like, they're just an incredibly

813
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 4: put together team. But regressions coming. They have to have

814
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 4: some regression. Last year, so many things went right for

815
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 4: this team. It was incredible how many things went right

816
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 4: for them. And you know, it might not be this year,

817
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 4: right Travis Kelsey's thirty four, It might not be this

818
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:27,800
Speaker 4: year he falls off that cliff, But when he does,

819
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 4: that's really when that's gonna make a game changer to

820
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 4: this team, because that really is his safety blanket. If

821
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 4: you go through it last year, anytime he needed it,

822
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 4: third or fourth down, that's who was looking to like

823
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:42,360
Speaker 4: him and Kelcey. My favorite stelf watching that whole QB

824
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,360
Speaker 4: Show on Netflix was him and Kelsey were just so

825
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 4: on rhythm. They wouldn't talk, they would just give each

826
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 4: other a look, and that's how they would set up

827
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 4: these different routes on the field, so I know it

828
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:54,839
Speaker 4: is tough to swell. Like, I totally geft people don't

829
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:56,760
Speaker 4: make this bet. It's probably one of my smaller bets,

830
00:41:56,800 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 4: taken their underwin total. But just in this division, I

831
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 4: see the Chargers being better. I see the Broncos being better.

832
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 4: The Chiefs, Yeah, they might have an easy schedule on paper,

833
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:09,879
Speaker 4: I think it's gonna be pretty tough actually, Like they're

834
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 4: playing at number one, the number one schedule, number one

835
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 4: seed schedule from last year.

836
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:14,880
Speaker 3: That's how it is.

837
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:16,399
Speaker 4: And you win your division, you play all the other

838
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 4: divisional winners, so that right there is gonna be tough.

839
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 4: And they have weird games like they play Broncos two

840
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:22,760
Speaker 4: out of three.

841
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 3: Weeks in the middle of the season.

842
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 4: That to me is a big advantage for this Broncos team,

843
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 4: who hasn't beaten them in multiple years. So this Chiefs team,

844
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:33,719
Speaker 4: I see regression. But I'm not betting them to miss

845
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 4: the playoffs. I still think they'll get in as a

846
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 4: wild card. It's just last year I was just so

847
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 4: high on them, like I was getting them at eleven

848
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 4: oh one for Super Bowl odds. If they did that again,

849
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 4: I would take it again. Like, if they moved that

850
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 4: number to that, I would take it. But and most

851
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:49,760
Speaker 4: books it's gonna be plus seven hundred plus eight hundred.

852
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 4: There's just no real value there. So to me, we

853
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:56,840
Speaker 4: haven't had a repeat winner chat in a long time.

854
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:59,319
Speaker 4: What was a Brady's team last repeat winner we had,

855
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 4: which was is shit?

856
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:05,360
Speaker 3: Man? That might have been four to five, like it

857
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 3: was that long ago. I remember. Yeah, No, seriously, that

858
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 3: were coming up with twenty years people.

859
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 4: That's how tough it is in football, where you just

860
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 4: need so much luck, so many little things to bounce

861
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,799
Speaker 4: your way. And I'm not really getting that price in

862
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:22,359
Speaker 4: here with this Chiefs number. Right the public is they

863
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:24,279
Speaker 4: had left the Chiefs for dead last year. Now they've

864
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 4: kind of come all the way back around. I think

865
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 4: they're one of the most bet teams. Mahome is one

866
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 4: of the biggest bet players right now for MVP. It's

867
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 4: like him, Fields and her Hurts right now are the

868
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 4: biggest three bet guys for MVP.

869
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 3: So it makes sense where the love is for the Chiefs.

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Speaker 3: To me, the number is just too much.

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Speaker 4: And when I saw it open eleven and a half

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Speaker 4: twelve wins, I was like, Okay, that makes perfect sense

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Speaker 4: for this team. I got them at eleven wins exactly, so,

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Speaker 4: you know, just under their win toll. That's why I'm

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Speaker 4: not telling people go crazy betting on it feels like

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Speaker 4: Like it's just how much luck can this team keep

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Speaker 4: having a year and year out of health and just

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Speaker 4: really good breaks like those one possession games they had

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Speaker 4: last year?

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Speaker 3: It was constantly They're constantly.

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Speaker 4: Winning these one possession games, and we saw what can happen,

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Speaker 4: like the right team prepared against them can really shut

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Speaker 4: down and stagnate this offense. So to me, you know,

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Speaker 4: love loved everything they did last year. I'm just going

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Speaker 4: to betting on regression this year for the Chiefs. So yeah,

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Speaker 4: best best bet for this Chiefs team. Not going to

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Speaker 4: do anything division. I'm not gonna do any Super Bowl futures.

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Speaker 4: I'm just gonna take the under eleven and a half.

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Speaker 1: We like the Chiefs plus five fifty to win the Division.

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Speaker 3: Chiefs evercos I mean, I'm.

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