WEBVTT - The Acolyte’s Destiny and The Boys Recap 0:00:15.400 --> 0:00:19.280 Hello, my name is Jason Concepcion and I'm Rosey Night 0:00:19.600 --> 0:00:21.759 and welcome back to X Revision, the podcast where we 0:00:21.840 --> 0:00:24.919 dive deep your favorite shows, movies, comics of pop culture, 0:00:24.960 --> 0:00:27.120 coming to you from my Heart podcast where we're bringing 0:00:27.120 --> 0:00:31.840 you two episodes a week, every Tuesday and Thursday. Two. 0:00:32.040 --> 0:00:36.400 That's two Tuesday and Thursday to tease three tea's in 0:00:36.440 --> 0:00:37.000 that sense. 0:00:38.840 --> 0:00:43.080 In this episode, it's all about the superpowered kids in 0:00:43.159 --> 0:00:43.680 the airlock. 0:00:44.000 --> 0:00:46.559 We're gonna be talking about Osha and May and everything. 0:00:46.600 --> 0:00:50.120 Acolyte episode three, which has been a very controversial episode 0:00:50.440 --> 0:00:52.880 in the previously on, we're going to be recapping season 0:00:52.920 --> 0:00:55.360 three of The Boys as we prepare for a fourth 0:00:55.400 --> 0:00:58.480 season following quite a few spin offs. That is not 0:00:58.640 --> 0:01:01.520 quick though, it's not a quick previously on, Get your 0:01:01.520 --> 0:01:04.160 popcorn out and get ready to relive all the mistakes 0:01:04.200 --> 0:01:05.679 of all the adults in The Boys. 0:01:06.080 --> 0:01:10.160 Add in Who's Who. It's our favorite weird deaths in 0:01:10.240 --> 0:01:16.840 pop culture. But first the Acolyte. Okay, Acolyte episode three, 0:01:17.240 --> 0:01:22.080 Destiny Insane, Wild episode just completely bonkers. 0:01:22.280 --> 0:01:25.319 I loved it, but it's just a total game changer. 0:01:25.720 --> 0:01:27.640 I loved it, but there is so much to talk 0:01:27.680 --> 0:01:34.120 about and we've been, in fact talking intensely about it. Okay, 0:01:34.600 --> 0:01:37.840 we open on Brendoc. This is the home planet of 0:01:38.120 --> 0:01:43.000 Osha and May. It is sixteen years before our story. 0:01:43.880 --> 0:01:48.160 This wild planet is mostly unhabited except for a coven 0:01:48.240 --> 0:01:52.920 of witches who, as we will see, our adept with 0:01:53.000 --> 0:01:56.600 the force, which they call the Thread. It's very very 0:01:56.640 --> 0:01:58.480 the fates, very the Greek fates. 0:01:58.480 --> 0:02:02.120 They can manipulate the thread, and they believe in sharing 0:02:02.160 --> 0:02:05.000 it with others rather than just using it as a 0:02:05.040 --> 0:02:06.080 singular force user. 0:02:07.000 --> 0:02:10.840 The coven, perhaps by agreement with the Jedi, also says 0:02:10.840 --> 0:02:14.240 some kind of rule right, are supposed to not train 0:02:14.400 --> 0:02:16.560 children in the ways of the Thread or the Force 0:02:16.680 --> 0:02:20.000 or whatever, which is a problem because ocean May are 0:02:20.000 --> 0:02:24.040 here and we meet them running around in the woods, 0:02:24.720 --> 0:02:29.800 and Osha has a little butterfly perched on her finger, 0:02:30.160 --> 0:02:33.160 and then May comes over and they're having a nice time, 0:02:33.240 --> 0:02:35.400 and then May holds the butterfly with the force for 0:02:35.440 --> 0:02:37.799 a little too long, And that is our first inkling 0:02:37.880 --> 0:02:40.760 that these kids are really different, very different from each other. 0:02:41.000 --> 0:02:45.080 But I do love that we have here the blue butterflies, 0:02:45.080 --> 0:02:47.200 which have become a really important part of kind of 0:02:47.280 --> 0:02:50.280 force law and force redemption. And also it's been a 0:02:50.320 --> 0:02:54.040 while since we really got some kids who can talk 0:02:54.080 --> 0:02:57.880 to animals, which is a big part of the Expanded Universe. 0:02:58.160 --> 0:03:00.800 Also good to know that anyone who is good at that, 0:03:01.240 --> 0:03:04.600 especially in the Expanded Universe, like Jason Solo who was 0:03:04.680 --> 0:03:08.280 Hannen and Laya's son, usually ends up tanning towards the 0:03:08.360 --> 0:03:11.239 dark side. It's a bit of a dark side, uh 0:03:11.280 --> 0:03:13.040 you know, hint. So I thought this was a very 0:03:13.040 --> 0:03:14.160 interesting open. 0:03:14.400 --> 0:03:19.320 So the Coven's not supposed to have children force users, 0:03:19.360 --> 0:03:21.800 and it's certainly not supposed to be training them. So 0:03:21.840 --> 0:03:25.600 this is a problem because Saul Young Saul, part of 0:03:25.639 --> 0:03:29.400 a Jedi party investigating a planet, has been following these 0:03:29.680 --> 0:03:32.440 twin sisters and has spotted them out in the woods. 0:03:33.080 --> 0:03:36.880 Mother an Assayu is the leader of the Coven of Witches. 0:03:37.160 --> 0:03:41.400 Her partner, Mother Coral, are together the parents of the girls, 0:03:41.440 --> 0:03:45.880 and as we shall see, in a way even more 0:03:46.040 --> 0:03:49.720 than being their parents, there the creators of these girls 0:03:49.720 --> 0:03:54.280 in a real force kind of way. Coral tells Annasau 0:03:54.600 --> 0:03:58.280 that the girls have snuck out of the hideout where 0:03:58.320 --> 0:04:00.840 they might have been seen by the Jedi. We learn 0:04:00.920 --> 0:04:04.240 that Osha in particular, is very independent minded and is 0:04:04.320 --> 0:04:06.800 fond of sneaking out and running away and running through 0:04:06.800 --> 0:04:09.800 the woods, which worries Mother Coral, who thinks that Mother 0:04:09.840 --> 0:04:14.040 Anasayu needs to run the coven and parent the twins 0:04:14.120 --> 0:04:17.600 with a firmer hand. In a training session run by 0:04:17.720 --> 0:04:23.039 Mother anasay You, we see how important multiple thread users 0:04:23.120 --> 0:04:25.839 are to the Coven's philosophy. We see them use the 0:04:25.880 --> 0:04:28.600 power of two so two, which is very interesting phrasing 0:04:28.760 --> 0:04:35.360 is we see two thread users rather easily rebuff a 0:04:35.400 --> 0:04:39.560 force attack by Mother and I say you. And it's 0:04:39.680 --> 0:04:45.039 very clear from this that the coven is adept at 0:04:45.200 --> 0:04:49.000 cooling all of their force power together to do things 0:04:49.120 --> 0:04:51.520 that we can only dream about what they do. 0:04:51.680 --> 0:04:55.160 Yes, And it does seem like this could be seen 0:04:55.160 --> 0:04:57.640 as a threat towards the Jedi, because the Jedi do 0:04:57.720 --> 0:05:00.160 not really train that way, you know, the Jed it 0:05:00.279 --> 0:05:04.400 is about channeling the force through one singular person in general, 0:05:05.080 --> 0:05:08.039 and this seems like a more like a like a 0:05:08.080 --> 0:05:11.440 force commune basically, which I think the Jedi are probably 0:05:11.480 --> 0:05:12.280 a little scatter. 0:05:13.279 --> 0:05:16.239 Well, certainly the Jedi are interested, which is why they 0:05:16.720 --> 0:05:20.200 are on the planet. That said, more about the differences 0:05:20.200 --> 0:05:24.200 between the tins oshed May. During this training session, they 0:05:24.200 --> 0:05:26.920 just start bickering. They start bickering and wrestling with each other, 0:05:26.960 --> 0:05:33.119 and they're constantly going at each other. During this training session, 0:05:33.160 --> 0:05:36.480 there's a there's a really interesting moment where we see 0:05:36.520 --> 0:05:43.120 the generators of the Fortress and something weird about them. 0:05:43.240 --> 0:05:45.800 Mother Kral looks at them and gets kind of a 0:05:45.839 --> 0:05:49.040 weird vibe about them. After training, Osha admits to Mother 0:05:49.080 --> 0:05:51.320 and say that she doesn't want to do the ascension 0:05:51.360 --> 0:05:53.880 ceremony which they're to do tonight, which will be their 0:05:54.360 --> 0:05:58.760 official welcome into the coven. May really wants to do it. 0:05:59.160 --> 0:06:03.520 On the other hand, Mother Anasayu has the girls hold hands. 0:06:03.640 --> 0:06:06.000 She lectures them on the importance of the ascension and 0:06:06.040 --> 0:06:08.440 doing all of this together and being part of the community, 0:06:08.839 --> 0:06:10.839 and she says the galaxy is not place for women 0:06:11.000 --> 0:06:16.640 like us. And you know, it's really interesting because it's 0:06:16.720 --> 0:06:22.200 clear that in this relationship, either May or Osha will 0:06:22.240 --> 0:06:25.080 get their way and there's no other way about it. 0:06:25.640 --> 0:06:28.520 Yeah, and it's also interesting for us to get our 0:06:28.560 --> 0:06:31.960 first look at what's it well really since the last Jedi, 0:06:32.000 --> 0:06:34.839 because we did get a teaser of that, but what 0:06:34.920 --> 0:06:37.240 does it look like if you can use the Force, 0:06:38.000 --> 0:06:40.839 but you don't want to go to the Jedi academy 0:06:40.920 --> 0:06:41.320 or you're. 0:06:41.200 --> 0:06:42.919 Not chosen, Like, what does that look like? 0:06:42.960 --> 0:06:45.839 And this is a very interesting thing because Mother Anasayah 0:06:45.880 --> 0:06:51.200 obviously sees the Jedi and the outside world and other 0:06:51.279 --> 0:06:53.920 force uses as a threat to the country, So it's 0:06:54.080 --> 0:06:57.120 very interesting to kind of see that dichotomy. 0:06:57.640 --> 0:07:01.560 Later, while preparing for the ascension ceremony, oh May argue again. 0:07:02.760 --> 0:07:06.520 Osha again says she doesn't want to swear she doesn't 0:07:06.560 --> 0:07:08.400 want to go through that. May is like, well, if 0:07:08.640 --> 0:07:10.880 you have to, because we're gonna stay here forever and 0:07:11.520 --> 0:07:13.760 I don't want you to leave, and you're not leaving. 0:07:15.800 --> 0:07:19.760 The ceremony begins, we learned that the coven has been persecuted, 0:07:20.440 --> 0:07:24.440 likely by the Jedi, for delving into the dark side 0:07:24.440 --> 0:07:26.400 of the forest. Well, the Jedi see is the doctors. 0:07:26.440 --> 0:07:28.840 What the Jedi see is the dark side of the force. 0:07:29.360 --> 0:07:31.320 At one point they were on the brink of extinction, 0:07:31.400 --> 0:07:34.680 and then they discovered how to create light. This is 0:07:34.720 --> 0:07:37.119 our first hint that the Sisters were created from the force. 0:07:37.800 --> 0:07:41.160 May undergoes the ceremony, vows to protect the secrets of 0:07:41.160 --> 0:07:45.800 the Coven and continue its legacy. Osha is like begrudgingly 0:07:46.320 --> 0:07:48.520 gonna swear she really doesn't want to do it, but 0:07:48.600 --> 0:07:52.360 she will probably do it for the good of the 0:07:52.400 --> 0:07:55.840 coven and so her sister won't be mad. But then 0:07:55.880 --> 0:07:59.680 the Jedi just flat out break into the futures, break, 0:07:59.800 --> 0:08:02.800 like just straight up breaking, which is one hundred percent 0:08:03.480 --> 0:08:06.080 not cool. No, the best way to deal with it 0:08:06.200 --> 0:08:08.240 not the best way to deal with it. Feel like they're. 0:08:08.120 --> 0:08:12.560 Immediately setting up a confrontational situation. 0:08:13.040 --> 0:08:17.440 That's right, And the Jedi party is in Dara, Young Saul, 0:08:17.920 --> 0:08:23.200 the Wookie, Jedi kil Knaka, and King Joffrey Barrathia I 0:08:23.240 --> 0:08:27.800 mean Young Torbn, Sorry Taubn. I was so happy to 0:08:27.840 --> 0:08:28.400 see him. 0:08:28.440 --> 0:08:30.040 I was like, last time I saw you, you were 0:08:30.080 --> 0:08:33.199 jumping out of a window. I'm so sorry, Rip, You're 0:08:33.200 --> 0:08:33.840 a sweetet. 0:08:34.920 --> 0:08:36.719 So the Jedi have come to investigate whether they or 0:08:36.760 --> 0:08:39.600 not the Covenant trading children, which is apparently against Republic law. 0:08:40.200 --> 0:08:44.240 Brendock is not in the Republic, but nonetheless, the Jedi, 0:08:44.640 --> 0:08:47.920 who have never heard of warrance or knocking or asking 0:08:48.120 --> 0:08:50.959 or whatever, believe that they have jurisdiction. And I will 0:08:51.000 --> 0:08:53.640 say before we get into the deeper conversation. I think 0:08:53.640 --> 0:08:56.160 this episode does a really great job of showing how 0:08:56.960 --> 0:08:59.640 both sides both have a point, and both sides have 0:09:00.880 --> 0:09:03.320 very glaring weaknesses, the Cleven and the Jedi. 0:09:03.760 --> 0:09:07.120 Yes, I would agree, especially because this does lean into 0:09:07.200 --> 0:09:10.160 our biggest critique of Yord, who I do know. I 0:09:10.200 --> 0:09:13.000 just want to say, look, a lot of our discord 0:09:13.400 --> 0:09:14.200 they love YOURD. 0:09:14.440 --> 0:09:15.960 They're part of the hashtag. 0:09:15.640 --> 0:09:19.160 Your so you know, I'm so happy for you guys. 0:09:19.240 --> 0:09:20.160 I know you love YOURD. 0:09:20.320 --> 0:09:21.839 But as we pointed out, he's a little bit of 0:09:21.880 --> 0:09:25.320 a space cop in our opinion, and I do think 0:09:25.360 --> 0:09:28.600 that this shows how he ended up that way, because 0:09:28.760 --> 0:09:31.559 these Jedi did just kick the door in like they 0:09:31.559 --> 0:09:34.640 were cops, like they had jurisdiction, even though Brendock isn't 0:09:34.640 --> 0:09:35.480 part of the Republic. 0:09:36.040 --> 0:09:39.080 And while the Jedi, I assume. 0:09:38.960 --> 0:09:42.000 Believe they are working under the impression that they don't 0:09:42.000 --> 0:09:43.600 want the dark Side to get out, They've got to 0:09:43.600 --> 0:09:48.000 control it. You know, it's not necessarily a fruitful and 0:09:48.080 --> 0:09:54.000 constructive way of behaving, and it's not perfect. It's not perfect, 0:09:54.000 --> 0:09:57.040 and neither is the way that the Covenant are run. 0:09:57.120 --> 0:09:58.479 Because the idea. 0:09:58.280 --> 0:10:00.640 Of kind of forcing the kid to have to be 0:10:00.640 --> 0:10:02.560 part of this assension, though I will say we do 0:10:02.600 --> 0:10:05.360 get a good moment with Mother Anasa later where she 0:10:05.480 --> 0:10:08.359 seems to be a bit more open to the options 0:10:08.480 --> 0:10:10.280 that are there for the kids. 0:10:10.320 --> 0:10:14.160 But and similarly to the Jedi, we know that Osha 0:10:14.240 --> 0:10:16.240 left of her own accord and was able to leave 0:10:16.280 --> 0:10:19.800 the training program. So choice does play into it to 0:10:19.920 --> 0:10:21.000 a degree. 0:10:21.160 --> 0:10:23.640 Did they let Ocean leave because they're guilty about what 0:10:23.679 --> 0:10:27.600 they did on Brendoc? Because I will say whatever happened 0:10:27.600 --> 0:10:30.560 on Brendoc was clearly bad, as we know, Master Torben 0:10:30.720 --> 0:10:33.400 was willing to kill himself over it for his guilt. 0:10:33.480 --> 0:10:38.960 So let's see, Osha is fascinated by the Jedi. And 0:10:39.040 --> 0:10:41.920 here's like where I'm just like annoyed at the coven 0:10:42.080 --> 0:10:44.600 and the kids. The kids are supposed to be secret. Yes, 0:10:44.640 --> 0:10:47.080 the Jedi broke in, but like, let's do a little 0:10:47.160 --> 0:10:51.800 better than just like standing in front of them, right, bedroom, Yeah, 0:10:52.920 --> 0:10:56.160 do something coven, something like don't just like stand there 0:10:56.200 --> 0:10:58.560 and then let them walk out and go meet the Jedi. 0:10:58.840 --> 0:11:01.360 But that's what happens because OSHA's fascinated by the Jedi, 0:11:01.440 --> 0:11:05.040 loves their robes, loves the lightsabers. She of course she 0:11:05.080 --> 0:11:08.079 loves the lightsaber like that's cool as hell. She comes 0:11:08.120 --> 0:11:12.320 out and is clearly fascinated, but also a little nervous 0:11:12.360 --> 0:11:16.080 around the Jedi, who she've heard from many people, including 0:11:16.120 --> 0:11:20.360 her sister, are bad Soul as a way to be like, 0:11:20.520 --> 0:11:23.800 we're we're very, very chill, and we're cool and cool 0:11:23.840 --> 0:11:25.440 we are. Let's her hold the lace of which is 0:11:25.480 --> 0:11:27.720 not insane. I'm sorry this is to do. 0:11:28.360 --> 0:11:31.280 She killed everyone accidentally. 0:11:31.360 --> 0:11:37.000 It's a child and Nun does so. 0:11:37.080 --> 0:11:38.520 Like I will say, one thing I do think is 0:11:38.559 --> 0:11:41.960 really interesting about the sequence is I kind of like 0:11:42.000 --> 0:11:45.400 the idea that the Force works in mysterious ways. And 0:11:45.440 --> 0:11:47.520 the reason that the Coven didn't do a better job 0:11:47.520 --> 0:11:49.880 of hiding them is because May was supposed to, you know, 0:11:49.920 --> 0:11:51.720 Osha was supposed to walk out, and that's what the 0:11:51.720 --> 0:11:54.400 Force wanted. And I think there's something interesting that. But Soul, 0:11:54.440 --> 0:11:59.120 please don't give her that gun. Yeah, a fan, don't 0:11:59.160 --> 0:12:04.640 get ladies guns. I will pose this question to. 0:12:04.600 --> 0:12:08.600 You, Yeah, discord. There's been quite a lot of anti 0:12:08.720 --> 0:12:09.520 Soul chatter. 0:12:10.360 --> 0:12:14.400 There are people who believe that Soul is quite creepy, almost, 0:12:14.480 --> 0:12:17.240 that Soul is completely as complicit as the other Jedi, 0:12:17.679 --> 0:12:19.800 and I think in these moments where he hands her 0:12:19.880 --> 0:12:21.880 the light, say, but the training moments where they're kind 0:12:21.920 --> 0:12:25.080 of having these almost like secret conversations, I can see 0:12:25.080 --> 0:12:27.199 that I love Soul, But that just might because I'm 0:12:27.200 --> 0:12:30.280 a lead young jay Stan and I believe Saul is 0:12:30.320 --> 0:12:31.040 doing his best. 0:12:31.320 --> 0:12:34.880 And this is sixteen years yeah, this is sixteen years 0:12:34.920 --> 0:12:37.440 in the past. So I think the Soul that we 0:12:37.520 --> 0:12:42.319 needed in the first two episodes is probably a different person. 0:12:43.440 --> 0:12:47.479 And clearly in the way he seems to be relating 0:12:47.880 --> 0:12:52.120 to trauma from his past feels different than the way 0:12:52.160 --> 0:12:54.800 the Jedi would teach, And so maybe this is just 0:12:54.840 --> 0:12:59.440 a Soul that is more fired up, less cynical, more 0:12:59.640 --> 0:13:02.320 of a true believer of the Jedi path because he's 0:13:02.320 --> 0:13:04.160 just a younger initiate, you know. 0:13:04.240 --> 0:13:05.280 Yeah, I think. 0:13:05.080 --> 0:13:08.480 That's part of what makes this show so engaging though, 0:13:08.960 --> 0:13:11.600 And it's two cults. It's like, you know, it's two cults. 0:13:11.640 --> 0:13:14.079 But I love the fact that, like everyone's having these 0:13:14.080 --> 0:13:17.720 conversations in the way that Leslie Hedlund kind of pieced 0:13:17.720 --> 0:13:20.800 together this show. You've got a situation where people like 0:13:20.880 --> 0:13:22.920 Usk and be like, you're the cop he's a space cop, 0:13:22.920 --> 0:13:24.520 and you have the Oordhard who love him. 0:13:24.640 --> 0:13:26.040 Then you've got Soul who we think. 0:13:26.080 --> 0:13:28.720 I'm like, wow, this is such an empathetic, more holistic 0:13:28.800 --> 0:13:30.760 version of the Jedi. And other people are like, no, 0:13:31.000 --> 0:13:33.079 he's a groomer and he doesn't have boundaries and that's 0:13:33.120 --> 0:13:35.600 why he does nostalgia and that's why he wants the kids. 0:13:35.679 --> 0:13:37.760 And I'm like, well, Leslie, you are doing. 0:13:37.559 --> 0:13:42.840 Some true like gray Jedi kind of both sides are bad, 0:13:43.000 --> 0:13:46.600 but who is doing anything right kind of conversation that's 0:13:46.840 --> 0:13:47.959 really really interesting. 0:13:48.679 --> 0:13:53.959 So solid's Ohsha, hold the lightsaber. He's like, you'd make 0:13:53.960 --> 0:13:57.920 a great Jedi the Jedi test if you want. And 0:13:57.960 --> 0:14:00.320 Osha really wants to take the Jedi test with mother 0:14:00.400 --> 0:14:04.320 Onna Sayu and the Coven are strongly, strongly, strongly against it, 0:14:04.360 --> 0:14:08.840 as is May. However, she agrees to bring the girls 0:14:08.920 --> 0:14:12.000 for testing the following day to the Jedi camp. Later, 0:14:13.120 --> 0:14:16.920 the coven discussed this problem. Coral is of the opinion 0:14:17.120 --> 0:14:19.000 of just wipe the Jedi out. Why don't we just 0:14:19.080 --> 0:14:23.240 go and murder the Jedi And who's gonna know, Like 0:14:23.280 --> 0:14:24.680 we're out here in the middle of nowhere, like no 0:14:24.720 --> 0:14:27.320 one's gonna know, h Elder, which I you know, that's 0:14:27.320 --> 0:14:28.560 a way to go. I know. 0:14:30.080 --> 0:14:34.200 Mother Coral is obviously like the more what's the word, 0:14:34.240 --> 0:14:37.400 like militaristic of the two. I will say, we do 0:14:37.560 --> 0:14:39.640 know that they were persecuted by the Jedi, and they 0:14:39.680 --> 0:14:41.440 are some of them were probably wiped out. 0:14:41.440 --> 0:14:43.520 So I'm like, look, I wouldn't go that way. We 0:14:43.560 --> 0:14:47.400 did break into the fortress. I mean again, I think 0:14:47.400 --> 0:14:50.040 we want to mindset. Yeah, I don't know if you 0:14:50.120 --> 0:14:52.400 go that far, but like, that is a way to go. 0:14:55.400 --> 0:14:57.960 So the coven discuss this problem. Elder Nassa comes out 0:14:58.000 --> 0:15:01.600 and she suggests, okay, listen, it's a binary, right, She says, 0:15:01.680 --> 0:15:04.800 it's either passed or they were you know, pass and 0:15:04.840 --> 0:15:07.160 they leave us, or fail and they stay with us. 0:15:07.400 --> 0:15:10.480 So what if we find a third way? We convince 0:15:10.520 --> 0:15:13.520 the girls to fail on purpose. May instantly agrees she 0:15:13.520 --> 0:15:15.200 doesn't want to go anywhere. She wants to stay here 0:15:15.400 --> 0:15:17.600 with Mother and to say you and Mother Coral and 0:15:17.800 --> 0:15:20.560 never leave the coven. And she says if the Jedi 0:15:20.640 --> 0:15:24.080 try to take Osha away, she will stop it, says, 0:15:24.240 --> 0:15:28.720 very concerningly forcefully. Osha, meanwhile, wants to take the test 0:15:28.800 --> 0:15:33.200 and has a real problem, like a moral problem with 0:15:33.400 --> 0:15:38.000 lying about her abilities and her specialness at the Jedi 0:15:38.080 --> 0:15:46.880 camp may fails easily. Osha, who is you know, bonding 0:15:46.960 --> 0:15:50.640 with Wookie Jedi kil Naka because it's a cute big dog, 0:15:51.880 --> 0:15:58.200 goes in, has her blood taken, which Master Torbin pad Torb, 0:15:59.280 --> 0:16:01.240 I think you got it. I think you got to say, hey, 0:16:01.280 --> 0:16:03.040 can I take it? I'm about to take a blood sample? 0:16:03.080 --> 0:16:05.520 Is now I'm saying the Jedi still just going around 0:16:05.560 --> 0:16:11.000 stealing people's blood. This is why I feel like I 0:16:11.040 --> 0:16:13.840 am on the side of the coven, because I'm like, 0:16:14.240 --> 0:16:17.840 these motherfuckers just have no boundaries, and I'm. 0:16:17.720 --> 0:16:21.040 On nobody's side. I like that, You're like nobody's side. 0:16:21.080 --> 0:16:25.240 I think the Coven are being very irresponsible. We'll get 0:16:25.240 --> 0:16:32.160 into that. So Osha goes in, she takes the test, 0:16:32.440 --> 0:16:34.840 she tries to fail. She tries to fail, but then 0:16:34.840 --> 0:16:36.840 the Jedi realized you've been told to fail, haven't you? 0:16:36.960 --> 0:16:40.320 And she's like yeah. And Saul tells Osha that you 0:16:40.360 --> 0:16:44.280 know you're special like I am. And and this is 0:16:44.280 --> 0:16:48.400 the thing that I think really connects to Osha and 0:16:48.600 --> 0:16:51.040 is a thing that here's a real weakness the coven 0:16:51.120 --> 0:16:54.240 have these are the only kids. Ocean May is fine 0:16:54.280 --> 0:16:58.440 with that because she's a little bit. She's not a 0:16:58.440 --> 0:17:01.640 little bit, She's the more selfish one. She likes being 0:17:01.640 --> 0:17:05.160 the only kid, and she sees Osha as an extension 0:17:05.200 --> 0:17:09.160 of herself in a way, who she intends to make 0:17:09.200 --> 0:17:12.520 all the decisions for like a little kid would do, 0:17:12.640 --> 0:17:15.240 in a selfish way that little kids are often selfish. 0:17:15.520 --> 0:17:18.760 Osha wants more, wants to be around other kids, wants 0:17:18.800 --> 0:17:20.919 to see other kids. Has talked about how lonely it 0:17:21.000 --> 0:17:23.880 is here, and so when she hears it there's thousands 0:17:23.920 --> 0:17:28.080 of other kids training at the Jedi temple. That is 0:17:28.200 --> 0:17:34.800 something that really interests her. Osha is, you know, again, 0:17:35.119 --> 0:17:40.000 really lonely. On Brendoc and Osha passes the test, May 0:17:40.240 --> 0:17:44.000 is absolutely fucking furious. Osha tells the mothers that she 0:17:44.040 --> 0:17:47.440 wants her own life, she wants to go out into 0:17:47.440 --> 0:17:50.040 the galaxy, and they're really it seems as if they're 0:17:50.040 --> 0:17:52.320 going to let her go. She's backing her things. 0:17:52.080 --> 0:17:56.239 You know, She's like, if you want to do this, 0:17:56.359 --> 0:17:58.320 like you do have the choice, We'll never see you 0:17:58.320 --> 0:18:00.880 again and we will go to the Is that true? 0:18:00.880 --> 0:18:03.560 Though? She can leave, she can leave and lay look 0:18:03.640 --> 0:18:04.440 up with a coven later. 0:18:04.560 --> 0:18:06.919 But you know what, maybe nobody knows the Jedi that 0:18:06.960 --> 0:18:09.240 you can leave the Jedi, you know, because Osha is 0:18:09.240 --> 0:18:11.560 one of the only people we've ever met who's done that. 0:18:12.160 --> 0:18:19.199 Yeah. Uh. Now May flips out like furious, like absolutely 0:18:19.280 --> 0:18:23.760 Red missed rage and has to be like carried away. Later, 0:18:23.840 --> 0:18:27.320 as Osha is praying to leave, May locks Oshit in 0:18:27.359 --> 0:18:30.200 her room and says, I'm not gonna let you leave. 0:18:30.280 --> 0:18:32.639 You try to leave, I'm gonna kill you. She literally says, 0:18:32.680 --> 0:18:35.560 like I will kill you. She then sets the little 0:18:35.640 --> 0:18:43.040 Jedi like welcome pamphlet on fire, and this seems to 0:18:43.200 --> 0:18:49.639 spark a fire that spreads rapidly. Because I think we 0:18:49.680 --> 0:18:53.160 all agree that there is more going on here. The Generators, 0:18:53.200 --> 0:18:56.440 which were foreshadowed earlier in the episode, just like explode, 0:18:56.960 --> 0:19:00.960 and mothers Coral and Anna say, and probably the rest 0:19:01.000 --> 0:19:04.320 of the Covenant can die completely off screen. How in 0:19:04.400 --> 0:19:06.520 this fire that's spread in two seconds, we don't know. 0:19:07.080 --> 0:19:12.000 The sisters face down each other across a broken bridge, 0:19:12.960 --> 0:19:19.000 incredibly thematic, and there's a huge explosion that seems to 0:19:19.080 --> 0:19:23.920 kill May and throws ocean into an abyss Saul rescues 0:19:23.960 --> 0:19:28.160 her and carries her away to safety on the Jedi ship, 0:19:28.200 --> 0:19:31.520 where she's taken for training, but we see at the 0:19:31.600 --> 0:19:35.159 end of the episode that May has survived. Yeah. What 0:19:35.280 --> 0:19:36.520 a fascinating episode. 0:19:36.720 --> 0:19:40.719 Yeah, just completely fascinating, really expands what we know of 0:19:40.760 --> 0:19:44.240 the Jedi. I know, look, I know people, some people 0:19:44.280 --> 0:19:47.600 don't like this episode. That's you know, whatever that's there. 0:19:47.600 --> 0:19:49.640 I think, I think this is great. This is exactly 0:19:49.680 --> 0:19:51.919 the kind of stuff that I want from Star Wars. 0:19:52.359 --> 0:19:55.640 This is very much that expanded universe version of Star 0:19:55.680 --> 0:19:57.840 Wars where we get to learn about all different kinds 0:19:57.880 --> 0:20:00.920 of force users, all different kinds of people who can 0:20:00.960 --> 0:20:04.480 wield it. And I think it's really interesting as a 0:20:04.520 --> 0:20:09.000 regular Jedi critic to kind of see the mistakes that 0:20:09.040 --> 0:20:11.920 the Jedi can make on their own terms, because I 0:20:11.960 --> 0:20:14.600 think something that is really interesting about this episode is 0:20:14.640 --> 0:20:18.000 this is like a little group of four Jedi who, 0:20:18.000 --> 0:20:20.920 as far as we know, are not being sent by 0:20:20.960 --> 0:20:25.919 any greater Jedi counsel or anything, who are just like, oh, 0:20:25.960 --> 0:20:28.040 here's something we need to stop, or here's some kids 0:20:28.080 --> 0:20:30.560 that we can you know, train. And I think that's 0:20:30.600 --> 0:20:34.359 really interesting because that's the real truth about any society 0:20:34.520 --> 0:20:37.680 is that human error is always like the worst thing 0:20:37.720 --> 0:20:39.520 that can happen to it, and I think in this 0:20:39.560 --> 0:20:41.360 case they make mistakes. I mean, I have a lot 0:20:41.359 --> 0:20:43.000 of issues here. I don't think you should let an 0:20:43.000 --> 0:20:44.520 eight year old choose what they're going to do with 0:20:44.600 --> 0:20:46.560 their whole life when it comes to like, well, are 0:20:46.600 --> 0:20:48.840 you going to become a space cop or are you 0:20:48.880 --> 0:20:49.919 going to become a witch? 0:20:50.480 --> 0:20:53.719 Both sides are asking eight year old children to swear 0:20:54.080 --> 0:20:56.240 that they will stay with them forever. Yes, I think 0:20:56.320 --> 0:20:59.320 that's a realty. Again, I think this there's a real 0:20:59.359 --> 0:21:01.480 weakness on both sides. I actually think that this is 0:21:01.520 --> 0:21:07.000 the episode that despite the okay, the breaking into the fortress, bad, 0:21:07.240 --> 0:21:10.680 the probably starting the fire and maybe killing everybody, absolutely 0:21:10.720 --> 0:21:13.960 awful and don't do that. At the same time, I 0:21:14.000 --> 0:21:18.760 think that the Jedi in this one respect come off 0:21:18.760 --> 0:21:24.160 looking okay, and that is in having an actual respect 0:21:24.560 --> 0:21:29.159 for the force and the power behind it and what 0:21:29.200 --> 0:21:31.960 it's able to do. Like the Coven. Here's my real 0:21:32.000 --> 0:21:35.560 critique of the Coven, and it's it's that they're playing 0:21:35.600 --> 0:21:40.639 with things that they clearly don't understand, and they've created 0:21:41.680 --> 0:21:48.119 a child in May who is angry who can't deal 0:21:48.160 --> 0:21:51.720 with their anger. They disagree amongst themselves to how to 0:21:52.080 --> 0:21:58.240 handle parenting May and Osha, and she's using her power 0:21:59.480 --> 0:22:04.200 by tap into that anger, and nobody is checking her 0:22:04.240 --> 0:22:06.800 at any point in time and saying, hey, don't do that, 0:22:06.920 --> 0:22:09.639 don't threaten to kill your sister, don't attack your sister 0:22:09.680 --> 0:22:13.360 all the time, don't like kill you know, kill butterflies. 0:22:14.640 --> 0:22:18.400 And so in that sense, I understand the Jedi going 0:22:18.520 --> 0:22:21.080 uh oh, like here we go again. Like they're gonna 0:22:21.640 --> 0:22:28.639 whatever the the goodness of their decision makings are, whatever 0:22:28.680 --> 0:22:31.720 they're the whatever they're intending to do, they're going to 0:22:31.760 --> 0:22:35.280 create somebody that's extremely powerful that that might do evil. 0:22:36.200 --> 0:22:39.080 It does not forgive them breaking into the place. Now, 0:22:39.119 --> 0:22:42.080 I'll say this, you somebody before we start a recording, 0:22:42.119 --> 0:22:44.040 you were like, you sound like somebody who's like pro 0:22:44.200 --> 0:22:47.479 mutant registration. This is I've talked about this on our 0:22:47.560 --> 0:22:50.520