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Speaker 1: This One Bill's Live, presented by Calida Health. That'd be

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Speaker 1: Saint Patrick's Day. Everybody, Welcome to a Monday edition of

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Speaker 1: One Bill's Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you, and

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Speaker 1: if you are of Irish descent or just feeling Irish today,

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Speaker 1: enjoy the day. Please drink responsibly. Why you gotta say

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Speaker 1: it like that, Well, because we don't need people getting

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Speaker 1: ridiculously out of whack today. I mean, you know, have

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Speaker 1: your fill and try to keep it there.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 1: I was my wife and I were downtown yesterday. We

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Speaker 1: had we had to kind of fix up her office.

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Speaker 1: She moved down the hall, so I'm usually entrusted with

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Speaker 1: hanging things on the walls and the things of this sort.

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Speaker 1: And the timing of our arrival was shortly before the

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Speaker 1: Saint Patrick's Day parade yesterday down Pice So got a

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Speaker 1: two first and we could well, we could see it

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Speaker 1: from her window. And as we're going into the building,

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Speaker 1: she says to me, she goes, man, what a beautiful

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Speaker 1: day for a parade. Because when we got there around noonish,

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Speaker 1: sun is out, it's about sixty degrees. The parade's like

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Speaker 1: an hour away from starting. Then we go inside and

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Speaker 1: you know, we're tidying up the office and whatnot and

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Speaker 1: getting right and you can hear the bagpipes down on Delaware.

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Speaker 1: All of a sudden we hear this tapping on the

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Speaker 1: window of her office. Rain literally blows in right as

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Speaker 1: the parade is starting, and I'm just like, seriously, right,

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Speaker 1: can we have nice things? Just want to have nice

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Speaker 1: Right when the parade started, it started raining, and then

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Speaker 1: two hours later, like three p thirty, it was beautiful again.

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Speaker 1: After the parade was over, I was just like, come on, man,

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Speaker 1: what happened to luck of the Irish there? They weren't

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Speaker 1: lucky with the weather. Yeah, that's stinks. So that was unfortunate.

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Speaker 1: But parades are It was kind of cool to watch.

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Speaker 3: Is there a little bit of an era gone by?

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Speaker 3: Because right, you know, I get it, marching bands and

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Speaker 3: nobody really had marching you know, parades we got a's.

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Speaker 1: They were a bigger thing when we were kids, right, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: because it was it was easier for us to be odd,

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Speaker 1: you know, and entertained.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's you know, it's like that will say. You know,

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Speaker 3: I hope you my children never stand on the edge

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Speaker 3: of the huge ocean and not be inspired by you

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Speaker 3: know or.

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Speaker 1: Somebody you know.

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Speaker 3: You want to retain that talent of being easily put

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Speaker 3: in awe and as kids, a parade is like wow,

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Speaker 3: look at the trucks and then all these people and

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Speaker 3: you know whatever. Nowadays it's like, no, you got a

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Speaker 3: drone show. You know, how about that.

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Speaker 1: Let's even drone show coming down.

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Speaker 3: Hey, Drone shows are like taking over for fireworks. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you know, I mean because they can do so much

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Speaker 3: different things.

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Speaker 1: There's a higher bar for the parade.

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Speaker 3: That is my point, and is really struggling to reach

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Speaker 3: that point.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 3: The thing about it now is if you're if there's

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Speaker 3: a parade, everybody's got.

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Speaker 1: To be in it. Why, Well, that's the way it works.

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Speaker 3: The kids are in seeing instead of the kids being

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Speaker 3: there and audit. The kids are in it like.

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, you have a lot of bicycles.

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Speaker 3: They dicarat to decorate their bicycle dancing, Irish dancing kids,

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Speaker 3: the hockey kids, the baseball kids, the soccer kids, the

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Speaker 1: And then that prompts the parents to attend and watch

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Speaker 1: them go by, right, and then you have a crowd.

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Speaker 3: Right, then you've got a parade. Yeah, right, So that's

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Speaker 3: kind of. I'm I don't know. I don't want to

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Speaker 3: say I'm down on parades because I kind of like

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Speaker 3: them still. But I like, you know, because I like

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Speaker 3: to sit there and walk, you know. I don't know,

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Speaker 3: but it does seem like a bygone era having a parade.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I remember going to a lot of them

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Speaker 1: as a kid, right, And I remember when I was

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Speaker 1: in Little league, they used to make us go in

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Speaker 3: Full uniform thing. Yeah, I'm with you, I'm it's a

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Speaker 3: great idea, but the execution of it is, as you say,

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Speaker 3: as you mentioned from yesterday, it's a little dicey.

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Speaker 1: Well, right, your weather dependent. It was different, not that

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Speaker 1: they didn't because you're pretty sure anyway, you're pretty sure

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Speaker 1: Fourth of July.

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Speaker 3: Parade is going to be fine with pretty good, right,

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Speaker 3: And that's different. That's when you get like everybody's got

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Speaker 1: The fourth of July parade. Yeah, and nobody's working.

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Speaker 3: Right, No, he's working, and you know, yeah, that's the parades.

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Speaker 3: I'm it's tough, yes, because listen, I'm I am not

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Speaker 3: standing in line to watch and if you're not like

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Speaker 3: on the curb of the street standing six exactly I'm

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Speaker 3: not going to the Macy's Day parade unless I'm a

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Speaker 3: like story up on the front.

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Speaker 1: That's different because you can be six deep and still

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Speaker 1: see all the balloons because everybody's looking to get that.

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Speaker 3: But you're still standing up.

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Speaker 1: Oh you don't want to stand, dude.

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Speaker 3: I just got out of the I was I was

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Speaker 3: in the woods for I was in the woods for

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Speaker 3: the last four days with my son's winter camping. I'm

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Speaker 3: done standing. It's yeah it yeah, No, you got to

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Speaker 3: sit down to watch a parade. You can't be standing out.

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Speaker 3: That's in New York. You can do that in New York.

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Speaker 3: And no, that is a that is.

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Speaker 1: A hard note going to parades. Daddy didn't stand for parades.

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Speaker 1: Going to the parades in New York City, you have

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Speaker 1: really isn't kind of the way to go. That's a

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Speaker 1: folk po.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, but there are millions of people living within

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Speaker 3: a half mile walk of the Yeah.

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Speaker 1: But you know, me and my buddies. When a couple

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Speaker 1: of my buddies played hooky on Saint Patrick's Day, yeah,

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Speaker 1: when it was in midweek and they wanted to go

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Speaker 1: wash the parade in Manhattan, you know, maybe find a

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Speaker 1: way to get a hold of some liquor. Uh. I

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Speaker 1: was like, I'm not going, guy, that's outrageous. Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 1: not going. Sure enough, they got picked up by a

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Speaker 1: truancy officer. Oh man, they got in a lot of trouble.

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Speaker 1: They're skipping school and they got busted by a truancy officer. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Let me say this. We used to have and I'd

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Speaker 3: be interested to hear most parents take on this, but

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Speaker 3: our take on missing school. I didn't care if you

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Speaker 3: missed school, but if you particularly if we were going

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Speaker 3: on a trip something, because you're gonna do something better

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Speaker 3: on a trip of your family, going to a museum,

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Speaker 3: even on a vacation and whatever. Then you know, whatever

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Speaker 3: it is you learn in the third fourth grade, now

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Speaker 3: you know high school or final in all that stuff.

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Speaker 3: It may be a little different. But man, oh man,

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Speaker 3: if you've got a chance to take a big, long,

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Speaker 3: you're gonna do some stuff, that's way more valuable than

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Speaker 3: a week in school, as my always was my take.

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Speaker 3: But I nevertheless, Grandpa is not standing for a parade anymore.

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Speaker 1: Give me that is I mean, a zero gravity check

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Speaker 1: is a yes, yeah, that is right.

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Speaker 3: And I don't want to disparage any parade. All I'm

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Speaker 3: saying about the genre is that it's from a bygone era.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't hold the magic that it used to.

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Speaker 3: And maybe that's maybe that's because I am a grandpa. Ah,

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Speaker 3: I don't want to go it might be me, It

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Speaker 3: might be me, It might be me. But nevertheless, I'm

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Speaker 3: yeah because I have Yeah, now I've got you know,

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Speaker 3: I got grandkids that are in those things, right, Like

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Speaker 3: I said, But I'm I'm kind of full circle too

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Speaker 3: because when they come by, they throw candy out. I'm

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Speaker 3: all about the candy.

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Speaker 1: And that's that is a relatively newer thing because when

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Speaker 1: I was a kid, nobody threw anything at a parade.

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Speaker 1: I guess Marty grow would be the only one that's

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Speaker 1: done that forever, right, because those parades are throwing everything

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Speaker 1: they are. But now, yes, it has become infinitely more popular,

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Speaker 1: and maybe that's what they felt was the way to

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Speaker 1: draw people to a parade. There will be handouts and goodies.

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Speaker 3: It's like like stay put Halloween, man, you stay there

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Speaker 3: and the candy comes from you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, stay put Halloween.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's a saving grace for the parades that

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Speaker 3: you don't get everywhere.

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Speaker 1: That's right, intheless, I'm happy, happy Saint Patrick, So enjoy

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Speaker 1: your Saint Patrick's day. Wonderful to think about. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: was trying to task or sounded Irish, but you believe

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Speaker 1: you're of English. I don't have a clue.

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Speaker 3: We do have a we have a coat of arms.

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Speaker 3: Interestingly enough, it's got a severed pigs head on top

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Speaker 3: of it. Really, Yeah, a boar's head.

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Speaker 1: We have a coat of arms too for brown, which

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Speaker 1: is Irish at least from.

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Speaker 3: Mine could be Irish too, And I've kept a couple

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Speaker 3: of yeah, Chevron's on.

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Speaker 1: And speak the whole thing, the shield.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and so I'm an American. I don't even yah.

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Speaker 1: My dad went deep dive, oh diddy deep dive during

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Speaker 1: COVID when he was you know sure, you know, hold

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Speaker 1: all those sites that you can use, and he found

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Speaker 1: a bunch of stuff and he basically figured out that

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Speaker 1: the Irish side of the family got here in eighteen fifty.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, it's kind of cool. He knows where the

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Speaker 1: two cities where yeah, the matriarch and patriarch are from

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Speaker 3: At eighteen fifty, I had the same cover versation with

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Speaker 3: my grandfather who's no obviously no longer with us, and

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Speaker 3: he said, yeah, there were ten or eleven Tasker brothers

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Speaker 3: down in Roanoak, Virginia.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, that was like an old old settlement.

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Speaker 3: Right, And he goes, there was also ten or eleven

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Speaker 3: girls from this other family and like three, three or

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Speaker 3: four of the brothers married three or four of the

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Speaker 3: then they dispersed from there, went out and they ended

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Speaker 3: someplace like that.

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Speaker 1: Wow, and all of that. So it was one of

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Speaker 1: those things. Roanoak is like, is it that's like the

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Speaker 1: southern version of Plymouth Rock, Dude, is it? Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: like very very old settlement, Like it's right, it's not

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Speaker 1: long after Jamestown, And like, yeah, really yeah, it's super old.

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Speaker 3: You got it.

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Speaker 1: You probably go way back.

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Speaker 3: Well, some parts of some members of my family have

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Speaker 3: done a little bit of that, and.

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Speaker 1: You know, so that's cool.

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Speaker 3: It's always kind of cool. It's kind of it's weird

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Speaker 3: for Americans because our country's two hundred and fifty or

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Speaker 3: two hundred and twenty five fifty years old, two and

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Speaker 3: twenty almost two hundred fifty years old. Yeah, and you know,

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Speaker 1: Abroad, that's young.

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Speaker 3: They got pubs that are three hundred and fifty years old,

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Speaker 3: four hundred years old, right, so yeah, it's a little

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Speaker 3: built in ten eighty right. Yeah, they were serving, they

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Speaker 3: were pulling a perspective. Yeah, they were pulling pints out

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Speaker 3: of the thing a thousand years ago. So it's a

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Speaker 1: it ran late with players finally signing their contracts like

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Speaker 3: I thought about that, but I'll say this, yes, and

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Speaker 1: Right, and they don't take up rosters and they don't

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Speaker 3: Sean McDermot, right, they they jump out. This last year

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Speaker 3: it's outside. The parameters of the Hoyt.

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Speaker 1: Hoyt situation was known by the Bills, but they liked

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Speaker 1: and it was a three year deal. And then Ogan

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Speaker 1: Joby agreed to terms with the Bills and on his

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Speaker 1: it wasn't in my plan to have two guys in

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Speaker 3: But and that's and I think their commitment, three year

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Speaker 1: So he's going to be a versatile chess piece for

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Speaker 3: So certainly it's not optimal, but I you know, and

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a problem.

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Speaker 3: It's a good thing you find out now because now

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're gonna be they're gonna be This is not

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Speaker 1: There's time to adjust.

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Speaker 1: some point in time, presumably to sign their contracts and

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Speaker 1: make it official. And then if you missed it over

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Speaker 1: the weekend. Terrell Bernard, the latest Bills player to be

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Speaker 1: changing his number. He's going from forty three to number eight.

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Speaker 1: Single digit numbers are all the range.

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Speaker 3: Now, I was I happen to be walking when you

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Speaker 3: were you were out for the week, and I happen

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Speaker 3: to be walking through the weight room on my way

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Speaker 3: to get coffee or something, and they there was a

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Speaker 3: handful of guys in there, and they were in one

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Speaker 3: of those locker room conversations. But who's gonna you gotta

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Speaker 3: this guy's gonna their start? They were talking, so I

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Speaker 3: didn't realize and Bernard was there. I didn't realize exactly

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Speaker 3: what they were talking about because I wasn't gonna see

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Speaker 3: gonna step into this or that's what it was about.

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Speaker 1: Four years in he's gonna che his number. Well, this

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Speaker 1: will be his fourth season coming up. But yeah, and

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Speaker 1: don't you have to for all the jerseys that are produced.

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Speaker 1: That's the NBA. So I don't think, is it you

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Speaker 1: don't have to pay that tab? Come on, man, I

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Speaker 1: was wondering, that's okay.

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Speaker 3: I was just curious, are you a fan by my jersey?

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Speaker 3: By the other jersey? Yeah, you know, nobody's it's not

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Speaker 3: on me.

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Speaker 1: I can see a fan. Hey, man, I was a

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Speaker 1: fan of yours when you were forty three.

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Speaker 3: That's right, that's right. Yeah, Bills fans would say something

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Speaker 3: like that. Yeah, they're all about earning your stripes.

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Speaker 1: Uh, let's go around the NFL, which is presented by

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Speaker 1: Kalida Health, the official health care system of the Buffalo Bills,

467
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Speaker 1: and the Bengals have done it. They have successfully reached

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Speaker 1: contract agreements with both t Higgins and Jamar Chase. For Higgins,

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Speaker 1: who was given the franchise, chag initially a second straight year,

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Speaker 1: he agreed to a four year, one hundred and fifteen

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Speaker 1: million dollar contract. Meanwhile, Chase gets four years, one hundred

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Speaker 1: and sixty one million dollars, and according to reports, they

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Speaker 1: are still going to try to get pass rusher Trey

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Speaker 1: Hendrickson under contract as well. Chase and Higgins combined salaries

475
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Speaker 1: averaged sixty nine million dollars per season, and that receiver

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Speaker 1: tandem is the highest in the league. It completely eclipses

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Speaker 1: the previous high of Tyreek Hill and Jalen Waddell at

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Speaker 1: fifty eight million in change. They're blowing that out of

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Speaker 1: the wall.

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Speaker 5: Just say this.

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Speaker 3: I am absolutely flabbergasted that the Bengals did it. Absolutely

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Speaker 3: and if they particularly if they get Trey Hendrickson as well.

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Speaker 3: I am. It is completely out of character what we've

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Speaker 3: seen over from them over other generations of players.

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Speaker 1: They also extended Mike Kasiki the tight end three year extension, right, So,

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Speaker 1: I mean they're throwing money around left, right, and and.

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Speaker 3: I'll say this too, they're gonna their philosophy of winning

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Speaker 3: football games is offense, offense, offense, offen. Forget about Trey Hendrickson.

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Speaker 3: He's great, yeah, but that's it. It is offense, offense, offense, offense.

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Speaker 1: Well, you and I were talking before we came on

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Speaker 1: the show today. What was the biggest problem for the

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Speaker 1: Bengals last year was their defense. Defense. They couldn't stop anybody.

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Speaker 1: It's why they didn't mat' Trey Hendrickson getting seventeen and

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Speaker 1: a half.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so, Sacks, I mean.

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Speaker 1: Don't I don't know if you're gonna have enough money

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Speaker 1: to make your defense better. I mean, you got Logan

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Speaker 1: Wilson on a long year deal. They re signed Joseph

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Speaker 1: Aside to a one year deal, but the back end's

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Speaker 1: a little shaky right now. They could not stop the run,

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Speaker 1: so I don't know. They resigned BJ Hill to an extension.

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Speaker 3: I totally get it. I it's gonna be interesting to see.

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Speaker 3: And this is one of the things you see it

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Speaker 3: from some people because we there were two things that

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Speaker 3: work here. First of all, I along with a lot

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Speaker 3: of other people and also put myself with the front,

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Speaker 3: had no no belief that the Bengals were gonna make

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Speaker 3: this happen. They have t Higgins on a franchise tag,

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Speaker 3: he's set for this year, and they could have got

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Speaker 3: him cheaper last year. Right then they've got all this kind.

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Speaker 3: I just none of us thought it would happen. That's

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Speaker 3: why we didn't think about, well if they even if

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Speaker 3: they do sign all those guys, how are they gonna

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Speaker 3: fill out the rest of their roster. Nobody even took

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Speaker 3: it to that step because there's no way they're going

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Speaker 3: to find a way to sign Joe Burrow, t Higgins,

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Speaker 3: Jamar Chase, and Trey Hendrickson. Now they haven't signed Hendrickson yet,

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Speaker 3: but those three on offense alone are enough to say

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Speaker 3: what that your roster's gonna be too top heavy. So

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Speaker 3: most people didn't believe that was ever gonna happen, that

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Speaker 3: they would be able to sign come up with the

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Speaker 3: cash or be willing to come up with the cash

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Speaker 3: to sign him, and nobody took it a step further

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Speaker 3: because they never thought it would happen. So now now

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Speaker 3: that it is happening, they gotta think, Okay, how are

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Speaker 3: you gonna build a roster?

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Speaker 1: I think you're gonna have very little middle market, very

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Speaker 1: few middle market players on this roster. You're gonna have

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Speaker 1: your halves and you're gonna have your league minimum guys,

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Speaker 1: and that's gonna be the bulk of what makes up

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Speaker 1: that roster, particularly on the defensive side of the ball.

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Speaker 1: The Giants search for a quarterback continues. Jamis Winston scheduled

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Speaker 1: to visit the Giants tomorrow. According to NFL Networks, Ton

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Speaker 1: peliserro Winston thirteen touchdown twelve picks last season for the Browns.

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Speaker 1: So right now here are the Giants' veteran QB options,

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, Russell Wilson, Joe Flacco, Jamis Winston. We should

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Speaker 1: mention they also have the third pick in the draft

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Speaker 1: and if they do not draft a quarterback, you will

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Speaker 1: be able to knock me over with a feather. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I will be stunned if they don't draft a quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Like yeah, who they gonna get if then, like today,

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Speaker 3: who takes the field for them?

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Speaker 1: If I think it's a draft pick, but I could

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Speaker 1: be wrong if it's not, whether it's a cam Ward

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Speaker 1: or Sure Sanders or right, you know, right, I mean

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Speaker 1: that you're really gonna be able to sell Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 1: to Giants fans after they watched right under their nose

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Speaker 1: how he did with the Jets. I don't know how

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Speaker 1: you're selling that one.

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Speaker 3: I'll say this, and Giant fans have a right to

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Speaker 3: say this, and I'm this is well, it is I

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Speaker 3: guess an indictment about the Jet. Giants fans say, listen,

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Speaker 3: we'll handle it better than Jets did that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not an unreasonable expectation.

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Speaker 3: Not not that it makes it all go away, but

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Speaker 3: certainly they will say whatever, however much better it may

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Speaker 3: go with Aaron Rodgers. Giants fans have every reason to

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Speaker 3: toot their horn and say, well, we'll do it better

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Speaker 3: than you guys, because we got a better organization and

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Speaker 3: it and it's fair.

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Speaker 1: That would be a fair assertion before the fact, not

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Speaker 1: that the last several years haven't been rosy. The problem

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Speaker 1: is for them either.

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, that's right, they got and I'll say this too,

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Speaker 3: and I don't know behind the scenes of it at all.

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Speaker 3: We saw what happened with Saquon Barkley in that saga,

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Speaker 3: and how well you know, John Mahra is there, he's like,

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Speaker 3: he's like despondent that they lost Saquon Barkley to free

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Speaker 3: agency and all that. I bet it's just as much

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Speaker 3: a John Merra move keeping Daniel Jones when they shouldn't have. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: they should not, not so money anyway, not for the money.

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Speaker 1: But even though they did, why didn't they draft a

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Speaker 1: quarterback then? That that's the one that stupefies me, because, Okay,

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Speaker 1: you commit to this guy.

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Speaker 3: It's technically because they were doing it because they were

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Speaker 3: after a playoff season.

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Speaker 1: They have a good draft pick. They couldn't get up

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Speaker 1: there to draft one of those guys.

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Speaker 3: That's the problem your coaching staff and your GM. They

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Speaker 3: come in in the first year and they make chicken

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Speaker 3: salad out of chicken poop, and they get to the

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Speaker 3: playoffs with that joker. Then now you're done. Now instead

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Speaker 3: of going two and four, two and fifteen, they go

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Speaker 3: ten and six, seven and go to the playoffs, and

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Speaker 3: now you're set a playoff and you're stuck with the

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Speaker 3: guy that's you get the right coach in GM and

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Speaker 3: then their success.

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Speaker 1: Overchief and paid for it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Stabbed them. They stabbed themselves in the back.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they shot themselves in the foot. I mean all

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Speaker 3: the every every allegory you can come up with. They

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Speaker 3: did it to themselves. Now they're gonna fire those guys

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Speaker 3: because they're not good enough to win consistently with without

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Speaker 3: Saquon Barkley or Dan or anybody.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's the way it was. Houston quarterback cornerback

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Speaker 1: Derek Stingley Junior is effectively reset the corner market. He

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Speaker 1: agreed to a three year extension with the Texans worth

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Speaker 1: ninety million dollars. He becomes the first corner to average

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Speaker 1: thirty million per season, so the cornerback market has been

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Speaker 1: effectively reset. In the last two weeks. He had J. C.

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Speaker 1: Horning Carolina resigned for twenty five million a year and

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Speaker 1: then Stingley Junior for thirty million per I mean, man

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Speaker 1: alive and look, he's good, but I mean he's probably

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Speaker 1: one of the top two corners in all of football.

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Speaker 1: So if that's what the top of the market's gonna

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Speaker 1: bear a well. More power to them, but man alive.

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Speaker 1: There's another position that had been languishing and falling behind

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Speaker 1: a lot of the other quote unquote money positions, not

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Speaker 1: anymore thanks to Stingley's deal.

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Speaker 3: So that yeah, you're talking thirty you know, a decade ago.

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Speaker 3: Maybe was it a decade ago when thirty million would

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Speaker 3: have been quarterback money?

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Speaker 1: Maybe fifteen years? Yeah, I'm not gonna pretend to remember.

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Speaker 3: Man oh man, now you've got Yeah, he's highest paid

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Speaker 3: defensive back.

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Speaker 1: In league history.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and Jamar Chase is now the highest paid.

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Speaker 1: Non quarterback I think in league history. Topic of discussion

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Speaker 1: for you today, how do you feel about the bulk

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Speaker 1: of the Bills money being spent to extend their own players.

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Speaker 1: It's an approach that doesn't happen every year under Brandon Bean.

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Speaker 1: We saw it this year. We're curious for your thoughts

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Speaker 1: on that approach this offseason. You let us know at

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Speaker 1: aightoh three oh five point fifty one eight eight eight

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Speaker 1: five point fifty two, five fifty the numbers to get

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Speaker 1: on board, or if you don't have time to give

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Speaker 1: us a call, you can hit us up on the

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Speaker 1: tweet sheet at One Bill's Live. But open lines for

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Speaker 1: you right now, eight oh three, oh five to fifty.

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Speaker 1: How do you feel about the bulk of the Bill's

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Speaker 1: money being spent to extend their young core of players?

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Speaker 1: You let us know. Next here on One Bill's Live

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Speaker 1: presented by Colida Health, it's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right

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Speaker 1: back here on a Saint Patrick's Day edition of One

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Speaker 1: Bill's Live, Chris Brown Steve Tansier with you and having

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Speaker 1: a discussion for you today, how do you feel about

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Speaker 1: the bulk of the Bill's money being spent to extend

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Speaker 1: their own players? A little bit different approach, as the

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Speaker 1: Bills made a concerted effort to lock up their young

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Speaker 1: core of players, not all of them, but four of them,

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Speaker 1: including Josh Allen. So it was a departure. And look,

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Speaker 1: this is not just the Bills. There are a lot

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Speaker 1: of teams around the league that chose to re sign

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Speaker 1: and extend their own This was a growing trend in

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Speaker 1: the length this offseason is a lot of teams. Is

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Speaker 1: it possible they know something we don't? I would say yes,

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Speaker 1: it's possible for sure. What would it be though, is

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Speaker 1: my question? I think I think part of it is

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Speaker 1: a depressed quality of talent on the free agent market

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Speaker 1: number one, particularly an offensive line.

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Speaker 3: Here's why I don't buy that one. You don't buy it, no,

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Speaker 3: because we've seen how wide ranging personnel evaluations are for

654
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 3: these teams. So I don't think thirty two other teams

655
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Speaker 3: are seeing the free agent market as depleted as whatever other.

656
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 1: Teams think about it.

657
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 3: Difference of opinion, Yeah, I think there's always that. Yeah,

658
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 3: so whatever what this guy thinks, I don't know if

659
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 3: he's this guy might think, I don't know. I think

660
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:11,799
Speaker 3: there's like a handful of these guys. Yeah, and there's

661
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:13,239
Speaker 3: still the same number.

662
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Speaker 1: Of players that are free agents.

663
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Speaker 3: So I don't I don't know if I buy that

664
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:20,879
Speaker 3: that thing that they may know that we don't know,

665
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Speaker 3: as that's why everybody's resigning their guys. I think it's

666
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:24,839
Speaker 3: something else.

667
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Speaker 1: Well. I would say another factor would be the general perception,

668
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 1: because we heard this at the combine, the general perception

669
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Speaker 1: that there are only about eight to ten blue chip

670
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 1: players in this year's draft. Not saying you don't have

671
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:40,400
Speaker 1: there aren't players you can draft that are going to

672
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 1: help you, but like world class star Day one, I

673
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 1: get a difference maker that I think Zach can play

674
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:50,839
Speaker 1: on the minds of GMS as well.

675
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Speaker 3: That's susceptible to the same criticism I just gave you

676
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 3: about them. Yes, but I will say this, it's the

677
00:34:56,600 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 3: draft is some what more uniform in its general and

678
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:06,839
Speaker 3: generally speaking, you get guys that'll say, yeah it. It

679
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 3: could be a depressed top of the draft at this year.

680
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 3: I could see that, because that's easier to spot when

681
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 3: you get more consensus about that.

682
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:18,439
Speaker 1: Well, you let us know. How do you feel about

683
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 1: the Bills spending the bulk of their money to extend

684
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 1: their own players this offseason? We go to the phones

685
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Speaker 1: at eight oh three, five point fifty, and we lead

686
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,359
Speaker 1: off with Joe in Buffalo. Me pull them up here?

687
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 1: What's going on?

688
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 4: Good?

689
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 1: There we go. I got you, Joe, how are you doing?

690
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 4: Hi?

691
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Speaker 7: Good afternoon. I think you know, it's consistent with the

692
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,399
Speaker 7: philosophy that I think they've been trying to develop. If

693
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:45,319
Speaker 7: you draft well and and your players play well, then

694
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:48,879
Speaker 7: why wouldn't to resign them? So this is the core

695
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 7: team that got them to the AFC Championship. Everyone they

696
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 7: re signed was a key resource or asset, and I

697
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 7: think it's smart to have done it. I mean, even

698
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 7: bringing act Dane Jackson who was available. Piece is essentially

699
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 7: you know, keeping them, you know, bringing them back to

700
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,799
Speaker 7: the core. I know he went down to Carolina thinks

701
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 7: didn't work out, but I thought he was a really

702
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 7: good player when he was here. So I think they

703
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 7: still have to figure out what they're going to do

704
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:21,759
Speaker 7: about Cook and their corner. I think it's Benford, yeah,

705
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,400
Speaker 7: but you know, and now didn't get help today with

706
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 7: Stingley Junior. But we'll see how that plays itself out.

707
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Speaker 7: So I think it's a good way, you know, you

708
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:32,400
Speaker 7: develop them and you resign them and get them to

709
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 7: their second contract some cases maybe their third contract. On

710
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 7: that quest and that issue that you led with with

711
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 7: respect to Michael, Hacked and Larry, I think it's Ogan Jobi.

712
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Speaker 4: Yeah.

713
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Speaker 7: Maybe Steve can speak to this or you, Chris, what

714
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 7: kind of due diligence do you do on the health

715
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 7: front or on talking to the NFL to see if

716
00:36:56,200 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 7: anyone's got any pending issues. I'm sure being was flatting

717
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 7: like the steamroller when he had to do when he

718
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:05,240
Speaker 7: had to decide he was going to sign these guys.

719
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,879
Speaker 7: It looks like he knew about Hacked but then signed

720
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:11,320
Speaker 7: them to a three year deal. Didn't know about Ogunjobi,

721
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Speaker 7: but decided he was going to re sign him anyways.

722
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Speaker 7: And then your thoughts on the interplay on this and

723
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Speaker 7: the draft. This looks like it might put more pressure

724
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 7: on the draft with the one and the two's, at

725
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 7: least with respect to the defensive line. I'll hang up

726
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 7: and listen.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Thanks Joe. Let's answer his last question first.

728
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 1: I think they were obviously caught off guard by the

729
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 1: ogun Joby news, primarily because they had done their due

730
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 1: diligence and ogun Joby was a pretty clean player as

731
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 1: far as off the field goes there. I mean, he

732
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 1: was up for a Man of the Year award, does

733
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:51,399
Speaker 1: a lot of work in the community, has been a

734
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 1: quality teammate both in Cincinnati and Pittsburgh. Did a lot

735
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 1: of dirty work in Pittsburgh in a three four system,

736
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Speaker 1: which I don't know if that's an ideal fit for him.

737
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 1: I think he'll be more effective in a four to

738
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,360
Speaker 1: three system, much like he was in Cincinnati earlier in

739
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 1: his career. And you know, you know, Sean McDermott and

740
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin are two men that respect each other and

741
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 1: are honest with each other. And if Ogunjoby wasn't going

742
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:19,319
Speaker 1: back to Pittsburgh. You know, McDermott probably made a couple

743
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,839
Speaker 1: of phone calls, you know, give me your four one

744
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 1: one on Ogunjoby. I mean, everything was lights out character

745
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:27,839
Speaker 1: wise on Ogunjoby. That's why this kind of caught them

746
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 1: off guard as much as it did. This is the

747
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,239
Speaker 1: first time he's ever been flagged in eight years in

748
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 1: the end of his credit.

749
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 3: Before he signed his contract, he did inform the Bills

750
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:36,840
Speaker 3: of his own volition.

751
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:38,360
Speaker 1: He wasn't required, he didn't have to do that.

752
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:39,319
Speaker 3: He didn't have to do that.

753
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:41,239
Speaker 1: Could have signed it and then said, oh, hey's either way.

754
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:42,800
Speaker 3: He's also one of those guys. He's a finalist for

755
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 3: the Walter Payton Man of the Year for the Pittsburgh

756
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:47,240
Speaker 3: Cedars one year. So he's one of those kind of guys.

757
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 3: And so the Bills, while they were they signed him

758
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 3: to a one year deal. The Hoyt contract was different

759
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 3: in that they knew everything about Hoyt and they signed

760
00:38:57,640 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 3: him to a three year deal because they liked the

761
00:38:59,080 --> 00:38:59,919
Speaker 3: player that much.

762
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Speaker 1: So that was his first and it was his first

763
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 1: two fits as well.

764
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:08,919
Speaker 3: So yeah, all that stuff being said, I think they're

765
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:10,400
Speaker 3: okay with it. I don't think this is going to

766
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:12,840
Speaker 3: be a huge bump. Certainly, it's something they do have

767
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:14,759
Speaker 3: to plan for. It's an obstacle in front of them.

768
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 1: It has to be addressed.

769
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Speaker 3: It's got to be addressed, and they've got to have

770
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 3: the plan to get them through the first six games

771
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 3: of the year with a rotation and then involve these

772
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 3: guys all of that, so that that is an issue,

773
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:28,720
Speaker 3: but they'll be able to overcome that in my opinion.

774
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 3: The rest of this about, you know, bringing guys back

775
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 3: to the Cook and the Benford contracts.

776
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 1: They're harder to complete now, Yeah, because if Barkley's contract,

777
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 1: he got an extension at twenty million a season, which

778
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 1: is going to raise all boats for everybody else, even

779
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 1: if you're on a lower tier than Barkley. And I

780
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 1: think most backs are, including Cook who doesn't have quite

781
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 1: as heavy a workload as Barkley does, right, and then

782
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 1: Benford very very good corner. I don't know if he's

783
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:02,799
Speaker 1: instantly class, but he's not far off. And now that

784
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:05,399
Speaker 1: price tag is thirty million a year, what does that

785
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 1: make Benford? He's probably somewhere in the load to mid twenties.

786
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:13,840
Speaker 1: And I don't know if you can swing that. So yeah,

787
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:17,799
Speaker 1: it just became more difficult to get both of those

788
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 1: players under long term deals.

789
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 3: Yes, and that's all. You know, You're right, the Stingley

790
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 3: contract hurts for Benford, hurts financially for Benford because he

791
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:31,440
Speaker 3: you know, he deserves more money and he's far outperformed

792
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 3: his contract to this point. But I'll say this too

793
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 3: about the draft. You're right, the Bills have drafted great

794
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:41,840
Speaker 3: good They've drafted guys who they have resigned to different contracts,

795
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:45,919
Speaker 3: but they have gotten those guys resigned at I would

796
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 3: say middle of the market is Rousseau, at Oliver aj A, Panessa,

797
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:59,239
Speaker 3: All of those guys have signed, have resigned, and Milano.

798
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 3: They're all mid tier. They're good players. They're not game wreckers.

799
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,400
Speaker 3: Although you can make that miss you can make that

800
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:09,759
Speaker 3: assertion probably about Milano a little bit more than the

801
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 3: other guys. Rousseau, you always seem to be expecting more

802
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 3: from him, and every once in a while he'll give

803
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 3: you something. But you know he's not a dull. He's

804
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 3: never been a double digitsack guy. Now you've got guys

805
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 3: out there, they're getting seventeen and a half sacks a year,

806
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:28,880
Speaker 3: So the Bills have drafted good, they have not drafted fantastically.

807
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 3: Now they've found some stuff that other people haven't. They've

808
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,399
Speaker 3: gotten some stuff that other teams just have not been

809
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 3: able to with Milano, Bernard Benford, to name a few,

810
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 3: Naman Johns, Tarren Johnson. They've got some draft picks that

811
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 3: have far outperformed their status. And they've got Spencer Brown,

812
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 3: you can point to great draft pick, cybo Osiris Torrance

813
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:57,399
Speaker 3: has been a great pick for them. So they have

814
00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 3: drafted a lot, a ton of their starter and core

815
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 3: guys and have gotten them to re sign at market value. Unfortunately,

816
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:09,720
Speaker 3: none of them are None of them are Darryl Stingley

817
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 3: Junior or you know, Jamar Chase and none of them.

818
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:18,360
Speaker 3: They don't have guys like that. But they've got good.

819
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:20,399
Speaker 1: Guess I'm not picking fifth in the draft, that's right,

820
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 1: that's right where those guys were taking.

821
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 3: That's that's kind about as good as you can expect,

822
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 3: and probably even better than most teams because of the Benford's,

823
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:34,799
Speaker 3: the Milanos, the tarn Johnson's of the world who they

824
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 3: find later in later rounds who turn out to be

825
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 3: fantastic players that nobody thought so in that respect. The

826
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 3: Bills are overachieving in the draft, but picking thirtieth and

827
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 3: I put it on I showed Brownie today. I stuck

828
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:51,320
Speaker 3: it on the white board. They ain't picking the thirtieth

829
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 3: pick this year. I'm telling you right now, they're moving.

830
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 1: I don't know if they're going up or down, but

831
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 1: you don't think they're gonna stick there. I do not, Okay,

832
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,360
Speaker 1: I do not. We are up against the clock. We

833
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 1: got to take a break here, but we are wide

834
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:04,799
Speaker 1: open for your phone calls for the rest of the show.

835
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 1: So if you're holding an eight h three oh five fifty,

836
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:08,840
Speaker 1: we will get to you. Just got to step aside

837
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:11,320
Speaker 1: here and be back with more of your comments about

838
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 1: the bills approach to spend the bulk of their money

839
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 1: this offseason to extend their own players. We discuss it

840
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:31,400
Speaker 1: with you next year on One Bill's Live Stay with Us.

841
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 1: How do you feel about the bulk of the Bill's

842
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 1: money being spent to extend their own players. It was

843
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 1: a slightly different approach than we've typically seen from Brandon Bean.

844
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 1: We've seen them extend players before, but a lot of

845
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 1: times we see it in August, right before or right

846
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 1: at the close of training camp. So last year with

847
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 1: Spencer Brown among others, so and everybody I this year

848
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 1: they did it on the front end.

849
00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it may be because I believe Christian Benford

850
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:05,840
Speaker 3: is going to get extended for sure this year. I

851
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 3: thought it would happen, and maybe it still will. But

852
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:10,279
Speaker 3: if it does happen, it will be and that'll be

853
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 3: that last one of the pre preseason.

854
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:14,799
Speaker 1: They're gonna have to create some room because they got

855
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:17,400
Speaker 1: only about five point eight under the cap right now.

856
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:20,800
Speaker 1: And even if you only use seven of your draft picks,

857
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 1: most of the money's going there.

858
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 3: If a player would because I think I would do

859
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:27,359
Speaker 3: it if the numbers were right. If you say, listen,

860
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 3: we're gonna sign you to an extension. You're going to

861
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 3: get your deal this year, but you're going to get

862
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:34,919
Speaker 3: a big number next year.

863
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 1: And it's kind of what the Bengals did with and

864
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:40,319
Speaker 1: then with Higgins and Chain and then say well, and

865
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 1: we'll guarantee a bunch of it, you know.

866
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you don't have to worry about it. You're

867
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:45,799
Speaker 3: going to get in and get it. But you're gonna

868
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 3: have to wait a year or so. But the contract

869
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:49,839
Speaker 3: will be signed and it will be amortized, and you'll

870
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:51,440
Speaker 3: help us doing it that way, and d la la

871
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:51,839
Speaker 3: if you.

872
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:53,760
Speaker 1: Make the numbers your way around it. Yeah yeah, he'll.

873
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:56,400
Speaker 3: Say, yeah, okay, I'll do that. Maybe he will. Particularly

874
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 3: if the numbers are big enough.

875
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 1: You can always jump through some hoops to make it work.

876
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 1: And hopefully that happens for him and for Cook. Let's

877
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 1: get back to the phones, though, and to Dave in

878
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 1: West Seneca. What's up, Dave?

879
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:12,320
Speaker 8: Hey, guys, I've been a season ticket over for forty

880
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 8: five years, and this is gonna be my last year

881
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:16,360
Speaker 8: at having season tickets.

882
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:20,759
Speaker 3: That's too bad. Pardon, I'm sorry about that. That's too bad. Sorry, yeah,

883
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 3: right here.

884
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 8: You know, I just don't want to pay the bsls

885
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 8: going to the new stadium, Okay. And the wife and

886
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 8: I we went to hit every stadium in the country.

887
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 8: We've already done about a dozen of them.

888
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 3: So you you're an NFL season ticket holder, not a

889
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:33,799
Speaker 3: bill season take over right here.

890
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 8: No, no, no, I'm a bill season forty five years, sir.

891
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:38,839
Speaker 3: No, no, no. From now on though, you're gonna you're

892
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 3: gonna go around and look at all the other stadiums.

893
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:41,799
Speaker 8: Yes we are.

894
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:42,400
Speaker 1: That's awesome.

895
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:44,239
Speaker 8: Okay, we're gonna take that. That's what I meant by

896
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 8: we're gonna travel the country, That's what I meant.

897
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 3: Joe, You're you're an NFLS You're gonna see all this.

898
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:50,360
Speaker 3: You're gonna see all the teams in all the stadiums.

899
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 4: You bet you? You bet you?

900
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:52,279
Speaker 1: All right, go ahead.

901
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 8: The reason I'm calling your question is I'm really happy

902
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 8: about how they're spending their money getting this stuff done early,

903
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 8: so we're not sitting on the needles for two or

904
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:02,840
Speaker 8: three months who they're going to sign, who they're not

905
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 8: going to sign. So I'm really happy about it. But

906
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:09,959
Speaker 8: I got three quick questions the White and I were talking. Chris,

907
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 8: you might know on the suspended players, how does that

908
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:17,839
Speaker 8: work with the salary cap? Because just for the heck

909
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:19,399
Speaker 8: of it, if one of those guys may say four

910
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:21,839
Speaker 8: and a half million dollars a year and they get

911
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 8: suspended for a third of the season, do they they

912
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 8: say one point five marrion? Does that come off the

913
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 8: salary captain? Or is that still included in the sarary cap?

914
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:34,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, a suspended player's salary does not come off the

915
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 1: cap for an NFL.

916
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:37,760
Speaker 3: But if they're suspended, they don't get paid.

917
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:38,720
Speaker 1: They don't get paid.

918
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:40,959
Speaker 8: I know they don't get paid, but I was wondering

919
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:42,320
Speaker 8: doesn't come off.

920
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:44,760
Speaker 3: The can't come off the cap, and but they also

921
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:47,320
Speaker 3: don't count as a roster spot, so it costs you

922
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 3: money to replace them with guys. But they're still on

923
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 3: the Cape.

924
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 1: So that's yeah. I know that you're like, oh, jeez,

925
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 1: we at least get a benefit that way.

926
00:46:57,520 --> 00:46:59,319
Speaker 3: Are your other questions, Dave?

927
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:01,880
Speaker 1: No, Dave, they've moved on all right, okay, And I

928
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 1: had to let him go because we had a lot

929
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 1: of people in the queue here that we want to

930
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:06,399
Speaker 1: get to. So we'll go to Nick and Georgia next.

931
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 1: What's up, NICKI?

932
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:12,319
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think that the bills Over didn't pay enough

933
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:15,400
Speaker 9: for their people on their roster. They could have kept

934
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 9: Matt Collins for five, but they paid Joshua Palmer twelve,

935
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 9: basically the same player, and Von Nola they could have

936
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 9: kept for eight.

937
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:30,320
Speaker 1: Sorry, nick're breaking up a little bit there. What'd you

938
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 1: say about Von?

939
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 9: Well, Von they could have kept for eight million, right,

940
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:39,359
Speaker 9: and both so they paid twelve for and they're kind

941
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 9: of the same stats.

942
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, one player seven years younger.

943
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 3: But yeah, if you kept Von is fifteen million on

944
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:49,399
Speaker 3: the cap.

945
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 1: Not Yeah, you're just counting what they saved by taking

946
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:53,880
Speaker 1: him off the roster, which was eight and a half.

947
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 9: Oh okay, sorry, Yeah, well that's all right.

948
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 3: I understand where you're coming from. Max signed for eight

949
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:02,840
Speaker 3: point four. You're not going to keep him in Buffalo

950
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:03,280
Speaker 3: for five?

951
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:09,239
Speaker 9: Well five, five and five is five this year, five

952
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:12,959
Speaker 9: next year, and yeah, Palmers.

953
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:16,319
Speaker 3: That's still not eight point four this year. Yeah, but yeah,

954
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:21,880
Speaker 3: I'll say this too, Palmer. I'm not going to sleep

955
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:23,760
Speaker 3: on him. I was talking to Brownie before this. I

956
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:26,400
Speaker 3: have high hopes for Palmer. He was on a team

957
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:32,440
Speaker 3: with Keenan Allen and Mike Williams and Austin Eckler had

958
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:35,399
Speaker 3: a good quarterback. He was like the third, maybe the

959
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 3: third and a half option in that offense and still

960
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 3: averaged forty three receptions a year. And he has second

961
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:47,240
Speaker 3: round measurables, which is pretty good athletically.

962
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:50,400
Speaker 1: Good separation skills with something that and his team desperately needs.

963
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:53,400
Speaker 3: He's more of a receiver rather than a jack of

964
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 3: all trades like Mac Hollins was for the Bills last year. Now,

965
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 3: certainly we all love Mac. He was great, uh and

966
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:00,719
Speaker 3: overachieved his expects for US.

967
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 1: YEA, he was here on a one year, two and

968
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 1: a half million dollars deal last year. He outperformed that

969
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 1: and he got a nice contract in free agency. That's

970
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 1: how it works.

971
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 3: I think we can. I think we can raise our

972
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 3: expectations for Joshua Palmer. I think we should expect more

973
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:17,920
Speaker 3: of him as a receiver than we got out of

974
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 3: even mccollins last year, even though Mac led the team

975
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:23,720
Speaker 3: in touchdowns. I think you'll see better down and distance

976
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:26,880
Speaker 3: performance and production from a guy like Joshua Palmer.

977
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 1: In my estimation, That's what I think they and I

978
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 1: think that's what the Bills think. Yeah, in my estimation,

979
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:35,720
Speaker 1: Laviscus Chaneau is your Mac Collins replacement. Big physical player

980
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 1: that can give you help on special teams, can block

981
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 1: in the run game, do some stuff after the catch.

982
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 1: He's your Mac Hollands replacement. Joshua Palmer is probably more

983
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 1: of your Amari Cooper replacement. I'm right, you know, with

984
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 1: where Amari Cooper was in his career compared to where

985
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 1: Joshua Palmer is now, you hope he can be at

986
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 1: least what Cooper gave you, hopefully more and being only

987
00:49:57,200 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 1: twenty six years of age. You're expecting some upside as well.

988
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,279
Speaker 1: I think right, let's go to Tom on the west

989
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 1: side here, what do you got for Tom.

990
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:09,399
Speaker 4: Havy Saint Patrick's day? Guys? Thanks, I got a couple

991
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 4: of things I need to get off my chest. I

992
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:14,960
Speaker 4: agree with Joe on a lot of what he brought up.

993
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 10: Uh.

994
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 4: I love the signings that they've made. I'm more concerned

995
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 4: about that extending Benford than I am Cook, especially with

996
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:31,719
Speaker 4: Stingley being re signed today and getting the money that

997
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 4: he's getting. But as far as I've seen on the

998
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 4: Internet that people are getting down on Bean about the

999
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:43,280
Speaker 4: culture in the room because of the signings of Hoyt

1000
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:49,920
Speaker 4: and Ogan Jobi. Now, both of them admitted that they

1001
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:53,360
Speaker 4: consumed or ingested or injected something. I don't know what

1002
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:57,880
Speaker 4: they did, but they didn't know what it was. It

1003
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 4: was something they trusted the trainer to do. And it's

1004
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:06,440
Speaker 4: not like there was somebody like an incognito or a

1005
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 4: haunt or on Casey or Watson and Cleveland where even

1006
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:19,440
Speaker 4: the kicker from Baltimore. Now they're all being accused of

1007
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 4: sexual abuse, of domestication, violence. I mean, we've dealt with

1008
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:30,400
Speaker 4: stuff like that before and we got rid of it.

1009
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:35,719
Speaker 4: So for these two guys to be peds, I mean,

1010
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:39,279
Speaker 4: you could drink a soda and it could be in

1011
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:42,879
Speaker 4: there and you just don't know. Go ahead and talk

1012
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:43,359
Speaker 4: about it.

1013
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, Hoyd actually shed some light on his violation. You

1014
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 1: basically explained that, you know, he had a personal trainer

1015
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:56,239
Speaker 1: that he worked with out in LA who provided his

1016
00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 1: supplement regimen. You know, a lot of players take supplements

1017
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 1: that are perfectly legal in the NFL, but he had

1018
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 1: an independent nurse actually double check all the supplements he

1019
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:09,319
Speaker 1: was ingesting in his body to make sure they were,

1020
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:13,040
Speaker 1: you know, compliant with what is and what is not

1021
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:16,799
Speaker 1: permissible by the NFL. And after about three years of

1022
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 1: doing that, he had come to trust the personal trainer

1023
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:21,439
Speaker 1: that was providing the supplements because everything came back clean

1024
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:24,840
Speaker 1: as a whistle and he no longer used the independent

1025
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:27,840
Speaker 1: nurse to check his supplements. And then he gets flagged

1026
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 1: for what he said was an elevated testosterone level oguin jobi.

1027
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:36,399
Speaker 1: According to Brandon Bean, this is the first time he's

1028
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 1: been flagged for something. He still doesn't know how it happened.

1029
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:41,400
Speaker 1: He's just starting his investigation into how that came to be,

1030
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:48,279
Speaker 1: so no real info on his violation. Yeah, this isn't

1031
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:52,479
Speaker 1: going to affect the culture in the locker room. No, yeah,

1032
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 1: because they're both quality of humans. It's just these are

1033
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:57,200
Speaker 1: unfortunate circumstances.

1034
00:52:57,640 --> 00:52:59,680
Speaker 3: I get that where you think these guys come in

1035
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:02,759
Speaker 3: and there I don't care kind of guys. I'm I'm

1036
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:05,720
Speaker 3: gonna cheat, I'm gonna whatever. I'm a bad person.

1037
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:08,840
Speaker 1: Hoite accepted full responsibility at this press conference on Friday.

1038
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:11,320
Speaker 3: That's not gonna it's not gonna take that shape in

1039
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 3: a locker room at all. So don't don't worry about

1040
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:17,759
Speaker 3: these guys coming in and all of a sudden, you know,

1041
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 3: guys are looking sideways at each other and not like.

1042
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:22,080
Speaker 1: It's not gonna be like that. I promise you that

1043
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:23,920
Speaker 1: that's not the way it works. We're up against the

1044
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:26,400
Speaker 1: break here, so we got to step aside. Steven Syracuse,

1045
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:28,719
Speaker 1: Jeff and Buffalo Ryan and Orchard Park will get to

1046
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:30,800
Speaker 1: you when we return here. On One Bill's Live presented

1047
00:53:30,800 --> 00:54:02,920
Speaker 1: by a Lot of Health, It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. The

1048
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:08,600
Speaker 1: One Bills Lives presented by COMMITA Help. How do you

1049
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:10,719
Speaker 1: feel about the bulk of the bills money being spent

1050
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:14,320
Speaker 1: to extend their own players. Bills have done that typically

1051
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 1: towards the end of the offseason. They did it on

1052
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:20,960
Speaker 1: the front end to a great degree this offseason. And yes,

1053
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:22,799
Speaker 1: some of their best core players are now in the

1054
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:26,799
Speaker 1: fold for the foreseeable future. So you let us know

1055
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 1: how you feel about that. More focused on their own

1056
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 1: roster and resigning their own than trying to pick and

1057
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:37,319
Speaker 1: choose from the list of free agents. Let's get right

1058
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:39,480
Speaker 1: back to the phones and we go to Steve in

1059
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 1: Syracuse next. What's up, Steve.

1060
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 6: I can't believe the severity of the punishment for the

1061
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 6: two players that are involved in the supposedly drugs whatever

1062
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:52,920
Speaker 6: it was. Anyway, they're high character players. For what I understand,

1063
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 6: clean cut and six scheme punishment is really severe. Seen

1064
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:01,759
Speaker 6: over the years I've seen him, I've been around a

1065
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:05,720
Speaker 6: long time. A number of players got in trouble, much

1066
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:09,160
Speaker 6: much more trouble than this. Was beating up their wives

1067
00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:12,359
Speaker 6: or riding the bank or whatever it is. They get

1068
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:15,960
Speaker 6: two or three game suspension, they're getting six. It's almost

1069
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:20,280
Speaker 6: half the season, and for volunteering that they made a mistake.

1070
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:22,560
Speaker 6: It isn't like they're trying to hide anything.

1071
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:24,880
Speaker 3: Well, they did get caught with a test. I mean,

1072
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 3: it wasn't like they went in and said, hey, I

1073
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 3: did this, and I figured that neither one of them

1074
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:34,840
Speaker 3: knew it. But yeah, here's the reason. That's why the

1075
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:36,799
Speaker 3: NFL is a little bit better league than a lot

1076
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:38,839
Speaker 3: of leagues. They don't care if you're a good guy

1077
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:40,560
Speaker 3: or not. If you get caught doing something, you're going

1078
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:43,520
Speaker 3: to get the penalty no matter what, whether you're whether

1079
00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:46,440
Speaker 3: you're beloved, or whether you're hated, you get the same penalty.

1080
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:48,520
Speaker 3: So there's none of this he's a good guy, let

1081
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:52,480
Speaker 3: him off the hook. Stuff that doesn't fly. So there's that,

1082
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 3: And yeah, you're right, it is a long suspension. And I,

1083
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:00,759
Speaker 3: in fact, I was asking Brownie. I was because this

1084
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:06,360
Speaker 3: suspension doesn't isn't handed down by the commissioner. It's agreed

1085
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:10,879
Speaker 3: to as a as a protocol as if he if

1086
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:14,319
Speaker 3: this happens, then this happens by the CBA, by the

1087
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:17,520
Speaker 3: players and the ownership, and the league is separate from it.

1088
00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:20,200
Speaker 3: This goes to this the medical testing thing, and they

1089
00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:22,759
Speaker 3: decide they say, yeah, this is this was caught, this

1090
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 3: was flagged, presto change. It's six games that's all. So

1091
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:29,880
Speaker 3: it's set in stone what the what the suspensions are. No,

1092
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:33,719
Speaker 3: it was not a judgment call. So for that, we're

1093
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 3: gonna have to I can. I can imagine that. That's

1094
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 3: you know, it seems like a long suspension particularly, and

1095
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:43,200
Speaker 3: that's why when you when you start putting judgment into it,

1096
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:45,279
Speaker 3: it's like, I don't know, maybe this guy or that

1097
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:46,920
Speaker 3: guy gets a different one than this guy, and that

1098
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:49,640
Speaker 3: guy gets a different one from this guy. No, no,

1099
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:52,520
Speaker 3: they all get the same. That's why it should be.

1100
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:54,919
Speaker 3: And whether he's a good guy or a nice guy,

1101
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:58,880
Speaker 3: or an old veteran or a brand new rookie, it

1102
00:56:58,880 --> 00:56:59,440
Speaker 3: don't matter.

1103
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:02,520
Speaker 1: We just know that last year Jamison Williams of the

1104
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:06,960
Speaker 1: Lions got a two game suspension for a substance violation.

1105
00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:12,680
Speaker 1: There's got to be a different substance. Yeah, it's got

1106
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:13,720
Speaker 1: to be a different substance.

1107
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:18,720
Speaker 3: It's a it's the suspensions for peds performance enhancing drugs,

1108
00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 3: and so there's a very long, very comprehensive list that

1109
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:27,400
Speaker 3: the league puts out and it's and it evolves as well,

1110
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:29,880
Speaker 3: just like the league does because when they find cheaters

1111
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 3: and they're using something, they outlaw that use. That whatever

1112
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:36,160
Speaker 3: the new stuff is. So it's a it's a page

1113
00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:40,800
Speaker 3: over page over page list of substances that are banned

1114
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:45,120
Speaker 3: by the NFL, and it also includes substances that help

1115
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 3: mask the presence of the real illegal stuff.

1116
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:51,040
Speaker 1: A lot of guys take masking agents.

1117
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:53,560
Speaker 3: Right, so you can take drugs that will keep them

1118
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 3: the first the performance enhancing drug from being registered or recognized.

1119
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:03,919
Speaker 3: But when you recognize the drug that covers that up,

1120
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:10,360
Speaker 3: that's also illegal. So it's a very comprehensive list. And

1121
00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:15,520
Speaker 3: you know, unfortunately, cheaters are always out ahead of the

1122
00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:18,240
Speaker 3: rule makers, so they can you know, they'll get away

1123
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:28,160
Speaker 3: with it, but until it becomes known, there you have it. So, yeah,

1124
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:30,920
Speaker 3: they are high character guys. They're they're guys who have

1125
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:32,840
Speaker 3: done a lot of things good for their teams, got

1126
00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:36,880
Speaker 3: a lot of good things for their communities, up to

1127
00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:39,360
Speaker 3: hiring personal trainers and nurses and stuff.

1128
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:40,400
Speaker 1: To keep track of all this.

1129
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:42,240
Speaker 3: It's a real job.

1130
00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:43,160
Speaker 5: Uh.

1131
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:45,560
Speaker 3: And obviously they fell asleep at the wheel and let

1132
00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:49,680
Speaker 3: it and took something they should have been taken. Yeah,

1133
00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:50,840
Speaker 3: you can say what you want.

1134
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:53,280
Speaker 1: About whether you believe their story or not. I don't.

1135
00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:57,000
Speaker 3: I don't one way or another. But the simple fact

1136
00:58:57,000 --> 00:59:01,000
Speaker 3: of the matter is both of them are paying the price.

1137
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:06,120
Speaker 1: To Ryan in Orchard Park. Next, what's up, Ryan up?

1138
00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:10,040
Speaker 10: Guys? I was wondering what you guys thought about Russelle

1139
00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:12,040
Speaker 10: Douglas on whether or not we'll bring him back or

1140
00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:14,720
Speaker 10: just let him go to another team, and whether or

1141
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:18,240
Speaker 10: not he has any trade value.

1142
00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:21,520
Speaker 1: We can't trade free agent, so there's no trade value

1143
00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:24,600
Speaker 1: to have because he's not under contract to the Bills,

1144
00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:29,480
Speaker 1: you know. As for whether he would be brought back

1145
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:31,360
Speaker 1: into the fold, I don't think he can ever rule

1146
00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:34,240
Speaker 1: it out, but I think he still believes he's worth

1147
00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:37,320
Speaker 1: a pretty penny even though he's thirty one years old.

1148
00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:43,560
Speaker 1: We did see the Bills play considerably more man coverage

1149
00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:46,200
Speaker 1: in the second half of the season last year, and

1150
00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:49,960
Speaker 1: I don't know that that's Douglas's forte. Not saying he

1151
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:51,960
Speaker 1: can't play it. I just don't know if that's the

1152
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:56,320
Speaker 1: best part of his skill set. And so does that

1153
00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:59,720
Speaker 1: mean that his value may not be what it was

1154
00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:02,680
Speaker 1: when this team was playing more zone coverage. And we

1155
01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:05,400
Speaker 1: don't know what they're gonna play predominantly next year anyway.

1156
01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:07,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, And they probably haven't decided until they see who's

1157
01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:10,040
Speaker 3: gonna be playing for them. I'll say this, Yeah, I

1158
01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:12,400
Speaker 3: like Rasoul as well. He's a I think the thing

1159
01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:17,160
Speaker 3: about him is he's so instinctive, intuitive, and also really smart.

1160
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:19,600
Speaker 3: He's got a high football like you. He sees things,

1161
01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:23,480
Speaker 3: knows when to take chances. Remember he came in here

1162
01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:26,160
Speaker 3: from Green Bay in the trade mid season two years ago.

1163
01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:28,280
Speaker 3: The guy was getting to turn over a game. I mean,

1164
01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:31,040
Speaker 3: he really came in and hit with a splash. And

1165
01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:36,800
Speaker 3: he still has that savvy and instinct about him. And

1166
01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:39,360
Speaker 3: I think the Bills would be willing to resign him

1167
01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:43,080
Speaker 3: maybe maybe just more willing to resign him, and they

1168
01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:47,640
Speaker 3: were resigning tomorrow Hamlin. But they're gonna do it at

1169
01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:51,480
Speaker 3: their price, and Rasoul is gonna check the market out.

1170
01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:53,120
Speaker 3: If there's a big market for him and he can

1171
01:00:53,240 --> 01:00:56,760
Speaker 3: make more money somewhere else, that's where he'll probably go.

1172
01:00:57,320 --> 01:01:00,280
Speaker 3: But if it comes down to it and he doesn't

1173
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:02,240
Speaker 3: have that much interest and there isn't that much of

1174
01:01:02,280 --> 01:01:05,240
Speaker 3: a difference between the Bills and another team, certainly you

1175
01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:09,480
Speaker 3: got a chance at resigning them resigning him then, But

1176
01:01:09,560 --> 01:01:11,000
Speaker 3: I think he'll be one of those guys you have

1177
01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:13,720
Speaker 3: to wait on because the corner market is what it is,

1178
01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:16,080
Speaker 3: and his age is what it is.

1179
01:01:17,080 --> 01:01:19,720
Speaker 1: Let's go to Jeff in Buffalo next. What's up? Jeff?

1180
01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:21,240
Speaker 5: Hey, what's up?

1181
01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:21,600
Speaker 8: Guys?

1182
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:25,360
Speaker 5: Real quick? If I can make a comment and then

1183
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:30,160
Speaker 5: I've questioned or your opinion on it, Brownie. As far

1184
01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:34,120
Speaker 5: as money goes, you see teams like Cincinnati and the

1185
01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:37,400
Speaker 5: Eagles will take those two for example. You know, they

1186
01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:41,440
Speaker 5: pay a quarterback, they're paying wide receivers, they're paying corners,

1187
01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:43,880
Speaker 5: and the Bills don't have it. You know, we're not

1188
01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:46,240
Speaker 5: paying a number one receiver, we're not paying a number

1189
01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:49,040
Speaker 5: one corner yet. And it really makes me think, Okay,

1190
01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:53,240
Speaker 5: they're paying quarterbacks to you know, it hurts and earls.

1191
01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:58,160
Speaker 5: But my point is where is the Bill's money? And

1192
01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:01,240
Speaker 5: before you answer that, Brownie, and I yeah, I know

1193
01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:03,920
Speaker 5: Russo and uh, you know Oliver and so on and

1194
01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:08,280
Speaker 5: so forth. Those are players that, in my opinion, the

1195
01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:13,480
Speaker 5: Bills pay like like they're blue chippers when they're just

1196
01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:18,600
Speaker 5: solid players. Russo is a good solid left hand What.

1197
01:02:19,040 --> 01:02:21,240
Speaker 3: Do you think of Russo? A good solid left end

1198
01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:23,560
Speaker 3: would would get what do you think is cap hit

1199
01:02:23,600 --> 01:02:23,920
Speaker 3: ought to be?

1200
01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:26,880
Speaker 5: Okay, if are just and then you guys can go

1201
01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:30,000
Speaker 5: ahead okay, like like an Olivers. In An Oliver's case,

1202
01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:33,040
Speaker 5: I always thought he was you know, he was underachiever

1203
01:02:33,600 --> 01:02:36,720
Speaker 5: and overpaid, and you know, now it's catching up and

1204
01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:39,400
Speaker 5: you're gonna see the same contract go to like a Russo.

1205
01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:42,320
Speaker 5: So I do have a couple issues with where is

1206
01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:44,960
Speaker 5: the Bill's money. We're not paying a corner, We're not

1207
01:02:45,040 --> 01:02:48,000
Speaker 5: paying a number one receiver. Yes, we're paying Josh Allen,

1208
01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:53,000
Speaker 5: and I mean we're paying Russo and we're paying but Malano.

1209
01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:56,760
Speaker 5: But where how do these other teams manipulate this cap?

1210
01:02:56,920 --> 01:03:00,720
Speaker 5: Like Philadelphia? You look at their their uh, some of

1211
01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:04,160
Speaker 5: the stars they have, and they retained wide receivers and

1212
01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:07,840
Speaker 5: they signed Barkley And it's just it makes me wonder,

1213
01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:10,880
Speaker 5: is Bean making bad deals that are hurting us years later?

1214
01:03:11,240 --> 01:03:12,040
Speaker 5: I don't think it's.

1215
01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:14,440
Speaker 1: All yeah, I don't think he's taking bad deals or

1216
01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:17,760
Speaker 1: give him. Matter of fact, he's actually signed guys to

1217
01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:22,240
Speaker 1: below top ten money or right around like the ninth

1218
01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:26,080
Speaker 1: or tenth highest paid play Deon Dawkin's original contract was

1219
01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:29,320
Speaker 1: very palatable for the Bills, and he since restructured it

1220
01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:32,919
Speaker 1: a couple of times. Spencer Brown signed a contract last

1221
01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:35,840
Speaker 1: year an extension and so they got money tied up

1222
01:03:35,840 --> 01:03:38,560
Speaker 1: in both their tackles. The way the Eagles get around

1223
01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:43,479
Speaker 1: it is with void years, and that's a slippery slope. Yes,

1224
01:03:44,160 --> 01:03:47,280
Speaker 1: you can have your your cake now, but you are

1225
01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:49,120
Speaker 1: going to have to pay for it later because those

1226
01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:52,640
Speaker 1: void years stack up. And I'm talking like they had

1227
01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:56,200
Speaker 1: three or four void years on the end of a contract,

1228
01:03:56,200 --> 01:03:58,919
Speaker 1: not one. The Bills have made use of void years

1229
01:03:58,920 --> 01:04:02,240
Speaker 1: as well, but typically goes only one to two void

1230
01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:05,800
Speaker 1: years on a contract, not three or four, because the

1231
01:04:05,880 --> 01:04:08,880
Speaker 1: hit is much more severe. The more void years you

1232
01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:10,840
Speaker 1: attack on times when you cut the player and you

1233
01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:13,560
Speaker 1: got four void years to eat, that's a bigger pill

1234
01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:14,120
Speaker 1: to swallow.

1235
01:04:14,240 --> 01:04:16,680
Speaker 3: The one time they did eat the void years with

1236
01:04:16,680 --> 01:04:19,080
Speaker 3: the von Miller contract, six years, one hundred and twenty million.

1237
01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:21,160
Speaker 3: Had three void years on the end of our three years.

1238
01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:22,959
Speaker 3: At the end of it, of the first three years,

1239
01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:24,880
Speaker 3: there was a big drop and yet a chance to

1240
01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:26,800
Speaker 3: get out of it. And then Vaughn took a haircut

1241
01:04:26,840 --> 01:04:29,000
Speaker 3: and restructured that deal to make it more pawtable. So

1242
01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:31,120
Speaker 3: a lot of teams aren't able to do that with

1243
01:04:31,160 --> 01:04:35,040
Speaker 3: the players they have, but the Bills, the highest paid guys,

1244
01:04:35,120 --> 01:04:37,520
Speaker 3: Josh Okay and his cap hit this year's forty one

1245
01:04:37,560 --> 01:04:40,120
Speaker 3: to three. Then it drops all the way down to

1246
01:04:40,200 --> 01:04:41,640
Speaker 3: Dion who's making nineteen.

1247
01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:45,600
Speaker 1: Right, But his point is we're not spending the big one.

1248
01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:46,240
Speaker 3: Here's the light.

1249
01:04:46,320 --> 01:04:47,120
Speaker 1: The Eagles are.

1250
01:04:47,320 --> 01:04:51,200
Speaker 3: There's nobody on the Cincinnati But after this year, the

1251
01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:55,280
Speaker 3: Bengals are going to have fifty forty guys or fifty

1252
01:04:55,320 --> 01:05:05,680
Speaker 3: guys making at or below what gosh what Darrnton Evans

1253
01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:06,720
Speaker 3: is making for the Bills.

1254
01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:11,200
Speaker 1: Right, I think I would say the Eagles are an exception,

1255
01:05:11,560 --> 01:05:16,640
Speaker 1: partially because they've paid more than a handful of veteran

1256
01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:20,240
Speaker 1: players top of the market money, whether you're talking about

1257
01:05:20,280 --> 01:05:23,240
Speaker 1: aj Brown, you're talking about Lane Johnson, they're right tackle

1258
01:05:24,600 --> 01:05:29,800
Speaker 1: Hurts Hurts, Jordan Mylotta, their left tackle Barkley, Devonte Smith,

1259
01:05:30,120 --> 01:05:35,560
Speaker 1: Saquon Barkley. Because on defense, they've got guys on rookie

1260
01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:42,400
Speaker 1: deals Jalen Carter, Jordan Davis, Cooper, Dejen Nolan Smith, Quinyon Mitchell,

1261
01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:46,400
Speaker 1: Nakobe Dean. You've got like seven or eight starters on

1262
01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:50,680
Speaker 1: defense on rookie deals, so you can pay seven or

1263
01:05:50,720 --> 01:05:55,160
Speaker 1: eight guys top dollar, when on the other side of

1264
01:05:55,160 --> 01:05:57,280
Speaker 1: the ball, you got eight guys starting for you on

1265
01:05:57,360 --> 01:06:00,960
Speaker 1: rookie contracts. That's how it's worked them in my opinion.

1266
01:06:01,040 --> 01:06:04,200
Speaker 1: And they also make use avoid years to a great

1267
01:06:04,240 --> 01:06:06,320
Speaker 1: degree that that will catch up to them.

1268
01:06:06,600 --> 01:06:09,160
Speaker 3: It's a different there's no question the Bills are using

1269
01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:12,600
Speaker 3: a different philosophy. And I retweeted something today that you know,

1270
01:06:12,720 --> 01:06:15,160
Speaker 3: go and it was said by some I was, you know,

1271
01:06:15,200 --> 01:06:17,960
Speaker 3: I'm always looking for little slogans and leadership stuff, and

1272
01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:20,120
Speaker 3: this guy said, if you're going to set goals, it

1273
01:06:20,160 --> 01:06:22,960
Speaker 3: means you want to win once. You want to win once.

1274
01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:26,720
Speaker 3: If you want to set systems in place, you want

1275
01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:30,880
Speaker 3: to win all the time, every year. And that's what

1276
01:06:31,120 --> 01:06:35,640
Speaker 3: the Bills have. They have a ton of guys making

1277
01:06:36,360 --> 01:06:39,200
Speaker 3: getting cap hits of seven plus million a year.

1278
01:06:39,680 --> 01:06:39,880
Speaker 1: There.

1279
01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:42,600
Speaker 3: The Bills are paying a lot of guys kind of

1280
01:06:42,640 --> 01:06:45,560
Speaker 3: middle of the road market money in their positions maybe

1281
01:06:45,600 --> 01:06:49,040
Speaker 3: a upper maybe in the third quarter of the four

1282
01:06:49,160 --> 01:06:51,919
Speaker 3: quarters of the small medium and the third quarter tile

1283
01:06:52,080 --> 01:06:56,440
Speaker 3: third quartile of price a second or third. They're a

1284
01:06:56,480 --> 01:06:59,360
Speaker 3: ton of guys at those positions they're paying. They've got

1285
01:06:59,400 --> 01:07:01,360
Speaker 3: a ton of guys they're paying really good money to.

1286
01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:05,480
Speaker 3: That includes James cook In and his rookie season, but

1287
01:07:05,520 --> 01:07:08,720
Speaker 3: Greg Russeau's cap hits only five point eight, which is

1288
01:07:08,840 --> 01:07:13,680
Speaker 3: only one hundred thousand dollars more than James Cook's contract

1289
01:07:14,080 --> 01:07:14,560
Speaker 3: this year.

1290
01:07:15,560 --> 01:07:17,680
Speaker 1: I mean that's their structure that way.

1291
01:07:17,600 --> 01:07:21,320
Speaker 3: The Bills are paying a ton of guys good money

1292
01:07:21,720 --> 01:07:23,320
Speaker 3: and one guy great money.

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Speaker 1: Well, because look at where they've been drafting the last

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Speaker 1: six years.

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Speaker 3: But the point is they're paying a lot more guys

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Speaker 3: and getting a lot more mileage and being more consistent

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01:07:31,760 --> 01:07:33,600
Speaker 3: year in year out than any of these other teams

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01:07:33,600 --> 01:07:37,400
Speaker 3: are being except for the Chiefs, who are the exact same.

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Speaker 3: They're even Philly wasn't in the playoffs two years ago. Yeah,

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01:07:43,120 --> 01:07:46,880
Speaker 3: right now everybody would say, obviously he I'd trade a

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01:07:46,920 --> 01:07:48,920
Speaker 3: play year in the playoffs for a super Bowl. Yeah,

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01:07:48,960 --> 01:07:54,560
Speaker 3: But the Bills are getting chance at it every single year, multiple, multiple, multiple,

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01:07:54,640 --> 01:07:57,720
Speaker 3: And you don't think the expectations are again this year

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01:07:58,320 --> 01:08:01,320
Speaker 3: to do that. Of course they are, and that you're

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01:08:01,360 --> 01:08:03,480
Speaker 3: not even gonna bat an eye. The playoffs are an

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01:08:03,520 --> 01:08:07,320
Speaker 3: afterthought for this club, because that's because their philosophy here

1307
01:08:07,320 --> 01:08:10,560
Speaker 3: and you looking and Jeff and Buffalo brings it up.

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01:08:11,240 --> 01:08:15,919
Speaker 3: Their pay structure is different because they get and they're

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01:08:15,920 --> 01:08:17,559
Speaker 3: getting a swing at it every Now you say, well,

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01:08:17,560 --> 01:08:19,880
Speaker 3: that's all because well, yeah, Josh maybe the guy that

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01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:22,640
Speaker 3: allows them to do it because of his abilities and

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01:08:22,680 --> 01:08:26,599
Speaker 3: what he can do for the offense. But they're building

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01:08:26,600 --> 01:08:29,120
Speaker 3: it exactly like they need to to do it every

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01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:33,920
Speaker 3: single year. Now for five in a row, seven out

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01:08:33,920 --> 01:08:36,400
Speaker 3: of the last eight years, they've had a swing at it,

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01:08:37,160 --> 01:08:41,360
Speaker 3: and a pretty good swing. So I kind of like that,

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01:08:41,560 --> 01:08:44,240
Speaker 3: and and I get it. There's a section of the

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01:08:44,240 --> 01:08:47,080
Speaker 3: fan base out there it's like, no, it's either super

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01:08:47,080 --> 01:08:50,560
Speaker 3: Bowl or it's a failure. Okay, good for you. You

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01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:54,280
Speaker 3: can have that. You can have that outlook for me

1321
01:08:55,160 --> 01:08:57,840
Speaker 3: when I see this team and see every single even

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01:08:57,880 --> 01:09:01,559
Speaker 3: if it's every single year one that one play away,

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01:09:01,640 --> 01:09:03,960
Speaker 3: that one fourth down spot away, or the third down

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01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:07,800
Speaker 3: spot away, or the thirteen second game away, or the

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01:09:08,240 --> 01:09:11,080
Speaker 3: fifty nine yard in a rainstorm away from getting the

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01:09:11,120 --> 01:09:13,680
Speaker 3: number one seed, or you know, you go down the

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Speaker 3: lit we all know the name he names those games.

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Speaker 1: Uh, that's where I want to be.

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01:09:19,640 --> 01:09:22,559
Speaker 3: I want to be right there every single year and

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Speaker 3: one and one of these years, maybe two of these years,

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01:09:25,200 --> 01:09:28,280
Speaker 3: or maybe four of these years, it's gonna go your way.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, But if you're not in it. If you're not

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01:09:31,200 --> 01:09:32,599
Speaker 1: in it, in a see if that happens.

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01:09:32,680 --> 01:09:34,719
Speaker 3: If you're not in it, it's not and you're gonna

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01:09:34,720 --> 01:09:38,680
Speaker 3: be sitting here grumbling about a contract that shouldn't have

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01:09:38,720 --> 01:09:39,120
Speaker 3: been paid.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's jump back on the phone lines here at

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01:09:43,200 --> 01:09:45,280
Speaker 1: eight h three oh five fifty one eight eight eight

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01:09:45,360 --> 01:09:47,320
Speaker 1: five fifty two five fifty how do you feel about

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01:09:47,320 --> 01:09:49,839
Speaker 1: the bulk of the bills money being spent to extend

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01:09:49,840 --> 01:09:52,799
Speaker 1: their own players? To Glenn in Newfane next, what's up Glenn?

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Speaker 2: Hey, guys. Well, as far as your question, I would say,

1343
01:10:00,040 --> 01:10:02,240
Speaker 2: you got to take care of your own people first

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01:10:02,640 --> 01:10:06,080
Speaker 2: before you go out looking. Feed your family, before you

1345
01:10:06,160 --> 01:10:10,680
Speaker 2: feed the neighbor's kid. The reason I was calling to

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01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:16,960
Speaker 2: ask about why can't the NFL schedule allow all thirty

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01:10:16,960 --> 01:10:20,559
Speaker 2: two teams to see test results prior to the start

1348
01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:24,800
Speaker 2: of free agency. It makes no sense to have guys

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01:10:24,880 --> 01:10:29,479
Speaker 2: signed by teams and then have this information coming out

1350
01:10:29,520 --> 01:10:32,479
Speaker 2: from eight hundred different That's the other thing that's coming

1351
01:10:32,479 --> 01:10:36,559
Speaker 2: from several different sources. It should be centralized so all

1352
01:10:36,600 --> 01:10:39,760
Speaker 2: thirty two teams have all the results and then they

1353
01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:45,360
Speaker 2: can offer this way, the players are one hundred percent

1354
01:10:45,560 --> 01:10:51,280
Speaker 2: liable for their own actions. They will pay, not the teams.

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01:10:51,320 --> 01:10:54,160
Speaker 2: This thing with six weeks for two guys, that's like

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01:10:54,240 --> 01:10:57,080
Speaker 2: one guy being out for twelve weeks. It's almost the

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01:10:57,120 --> 01:11:01,000
Speaker 2: whole year. That is crazy. It should be better organized,

1358
01:11:01,040 --> 01:11:05,040
Speaker 2: in my opinion. The other thing is a lot of

1359
01:11:05,080 --> 01:11:08,040
Speaker 2: the people not just calling in, but friends of mine

1360
01:11:08,160 --> 01:11:12,320
Speaker 2: talking about it. These guys didn't do this intentionally. This

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01:11:12,680 --> 01:11:16,760
Speaker 2: like hatred towards these two guys, like the intentionally had

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01:11:16,880 --> 01:11:20,479
Speaker 2: test results they were hiding from the team. This is

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01:11:20,560 --> 01:11:23,920
Speaker 2: the last thing these guys need with a new team

1364
01:11:24,800 --> 01:11:31,160
Speaker 2: is six week suspensions. It's definitely from me looking at

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01:11:31,200 --> 01:11:34,280
Speaker 2: it as a fan. Appears to me and I try

1366
01:11:34,280 --> 01:11:38,000
Speaker 2: to put myself in a position of somebody having multiple

1367
01:11:38,160 --> 01:11:40,960
Speaker 2: car wrecks during a season. I've been in a couple

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01:11:41,000 --> 01:11:45,920
Speaker 2: of bad ones. I can't imagine the just the day

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01:11:45,960 --> 01:11:50,040
Speaker 2: to day grind of it. Looking during the games, it's

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01:11:50,080 --> 01:11:51,960
Speaker 2: like I don't even know how these guys get back

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01:11:52,040 --> 01:11:56,759
Speaker 2: up half the time, and I however they get through

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01:11:56,800 --> 01:11:59,800
Speaker 2: the off season. I can't imagine that they would not

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01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:03,080
Speaker 2: need a lot of help, such as supplements, building their

1374
01:12:03,160 --> 01:12:06,479
Speaker 2: muscles back up, trying to get back in shape. Some

1375
01:12:06,560 --> 01:12:10,400
Speaker 2: guys coming off of injury, So that part about they

1376
01:12:10,600 --> 01:12:13,439
Speaker 2: might be might have done it intentionally. I'm going to,

1377
01:12:13,920 --> 01:12:16,920
Speaker 2: you know, hate them for this. That is the last

1378
01:12:16,960 --> 01:12:19,400
Speaker 2: thing that these guys would want to happen to set

1379
01:12:19,439 --> 01:12:20,200
Speaker 2: them back like that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, understood, Glenn.

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01:12:22,640 --> 01:12:25,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true, Glenn. They probably Yeah, for both of them,

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01:12:25,680 --> 01:12:26,840
Speaker 3: it was unintentional.

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01:12:26,840 --> 01:12:29,720
Speaker 1: But they don't have testing in the off season. I

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01:12:29,760 --> 01:12:32,639
Speaker 1: don't think it's usually just during the season when they're

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01:12:32,680 --> 01:12:36,680
Speaker 1: playing because their players are easier to access in the

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01:12:36,680 --> 01:12:39,400
Speaker 1: locker room after games. And these are two players that

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Speaker 1: were both in the playoffs. So my guess is these

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01:12:42,520 --> 01:12:46,200
Speaker 1: tests came during the postseason and then the results are

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01:12:46,240 --> 01:12:48,479
Speaker 1: only coming to light now because when you have one

1390
01:12:48,560 --> 01:12:51,040
Speaker 1: positive test, I think they take make them take another.

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01:12:53,200 --> 01:12:55,479
Speaker 1: There's a second way of maroberating the test.

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01:12:55,560 --> 01:13:00,280
Speaker 3: Maybe, Yeah, unintentional or not, you're responsible for you put

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01:13:00,280 --> 01:13:01,160
Speaker 3: in your own body.

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Speaker 1: That's all there is to it. And I get it too.

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01:13:04,560 --> 01:13:05,880
Speaker 1: It makes sense to us now.

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01:13:05,880 --> 01:13:07,640
Speaker 3: And from this end of it, having this happen to

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01:13:07,680 --> 01:13:10,800
Speaker 3: the Bills, you're saying, well, you know, the the league

1398
01:13:10,800 --> 01:13:13,519
Speaker 3: should tell the teams in free agency which guys are

1399
01:13:13,560 --> 01:13:15,920
Speaker 3: going to get nicked. The problem is this. Those guys

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Speaker 3: are not under contract with any team in the NFL,

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01:13:18,520 --> 01:13:21,200
Speaker 3: and you can't share that kind of information personal information

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01:13:21,280 --> 01:13:25,400
Speaker 3: with anybody. That's it's hipA stuff. And you can laugh

1403
01:13:25,479 --> 01:13:27,720
Speaker 3: or roll your eyes about it because and we'll get it.

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01:13:28,080 --> 01:13:33,240
Speaker 3: But it's true, and the Union wouldn't like it, and

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01:13:33,360 --> 01:13:36,840
Speaker 3: neither would the courts for that matter, that you're giving

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01:13:36,840 --> 01:13:40,080
Speaker 3: out these guys personal information to somebody that they don't

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01:13:40,080 --> 01:13:44,800
Speaker 3: work for. Now, we're talking about millions of dollars in

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01:13:44,880 --> 01:13:52,240
Speaker 3: revenues and income, you know, So to be cynical, Michael

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01:13:52,400 --> 01:13:55,200
Speaker 3: Hoyt could have said, I don't want them to know

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01:13:55,240 --> 01:13:57,280
Speaker 3: because I'm about to sign a three year, thirty some

1411
01:13:57,400 --> 01:13:59,400
Speaker 3: million dollar contract. I don't want to tell them as

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01:13:59,400 --> 01:14:01,920
Speaker 3: it may go bad on me that there's that kind

1413
01:14:01,960 --> 01:14:05,840
Speaker 3: of person out there. You all know that, and the

1414
01:14:05,920 --> 01:14:06,400
Speaker 3: kind of you know.

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01:14:06,439 --> 01:14:07,000
Speaker 1: So it's.

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01:14:08,720 --> 01:14:12,000
Speaker 3: All that's in the mix. And how the Union handles

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01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:15,040
Speaker 3: it and protects their players, whether they deserve protecting or not,

1418
01:14:15,600 --> 01:14:18,880
Speaker 3: and how the league handles it protecting their teams and

1419
01:14:18,960 --> 01:14:20,880
Speaker 3: not giving money to guys who don't deserve it or

1420
01:14:20,920 --> 01:14:24,880
Speaker 3: that they would rather not is a tough recipe to strike.

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01:14:25,560 --> 01:14:28,000
Speaker 3: It is a tough needle to thread when you've got

1422
01:14:28,240 --> 01:14:30,519
Speaker 3: laws and all the things that we're talking about. So, yeah,

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01:14:30,560 --> 01:14:32,519
Speaker 3: you're right, it would be nice for all the teams

1424
01:14:32,520 --> 01:14:35,760
Speaker 3: to know who was going to get suspended, but they

1425
01:14:35,760 --> 01:14:39,080
Speaker 3: should they should do all that the league should know

1426
01:14:39,479 --> 01:14:43,720
Speaker 3: before free agency starts. This stuff didn't happen until was

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01:14:43,760 --> 01:14:45,080
Speaker 3: I understand it until after.

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01:14:45,600 --> 01:14:49,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, we have to take a break here, but when

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01:14:49,320 --> 01:14:51,759
Speaker 1: we come back more of your comments on this subject.

1430
01:14:51,960 --> 01:14:53,840
Speaker 1: Will crack open the tweet sheets see what you have

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01:14:53,920 --> 01:14:56,920
Speaker 1: to say about it there, and might have a little

1432
01:14:56,960 --> 01:15:01,000
Speaker 1: other items to bring to your attention, including the wild

1433
01:15:01,160 --> 01:15:03,559
Speaker 1: and the wacky from the sporting world. We'll do that

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01:15:03,640 --> 01:15:05,840
Speaker 1: when we return. Here on One Bill's Live, presented by

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01:15:05,840 --> 01:15:22,639
Speaker 1: Colid of Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right, back

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01:15:22,680 --> 01:15:25,120
Speaker 1: here on One Bill's Live, Happy Saint Patrick's dagg and

1437
01:15:25,160 --> 01:15:27,559
Speaker 1: a crack open the tweet sheet here to see how

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01:15:27,560 --> 01:15:29,360
Speaker 1: you feel about the bulk of the Bill's money being

1439
01:15:29,520 --> 01:15:34,120
Speaker 1: spent to extend their own young core of players. Tweet

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01:15:34,120 --> 01:15:36,320
Speaker 1: sheet brought to you by Corrigan Moving Systems, the official

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01:15:36,360 --> 01:15:39,200
Speaker 1: equipment moving company of the Buffalo Bills, and Andy says

1442
01:15:39,760 --> 01:15:42,200
Speaker 1: homegrown players are the best way to go players from

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01:15:42,240 --> 01:15:45,920
Speaker 1: other teams, while talented, are an if or a maybe,

1444
01:15:46,439 --> 01:15:51,160
Speaker 1: most have a difficult time living up to the contract signed. Yeah,

1445
01:15:51,280 --> 01:15:56,000
Speaker 1: in some cases that's probably true, not all. Sometimes you

1446
01:15:56,040 --> 01:15:58,000
Speaker 1: sign the right player, they put you over the top.

1447
01:16:00,080 --> 01:16:01,960
Speaker 1: Certainly what the Bills were hoping for when they signed

1448
01:16:02,000 --> 01:16:05,200
Speaker 1: von Miller to that giant contract. Fortunately he gets injured,

1449
01:16:05,880 --> 01:16:07,920
Speaker 1: you know, with the ACL and it doesn't pan out.

1450
01:16:08,560 --> 01:16:12,559
Speaker 1: But you know, you acquire the right player. Sometimes it

1451
01:16:12,600 --> 01:16:13,800
Speaker 1: can be the difference, so.

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01:16:14,800 --> 01:16:19,040
Speaker 3: Can be can be And that's you know, it's like

1453
01:16:19,040 --> 01:16:20,840
Speaker 3: Brandon said right after the season, you never feel like

1454
01:16:20,880 --> 01:16:21,920
Speaker 3: you're one player.

1455
01:16:21,640 --> 01:16:22,639
Speaker 1: Away, right, That's true.

1456
01:16:22,680 --> 01:16:26,080
Speaker 3: And although not no question, if something happens this, that

1457
01:16:26,120 --> 01:16:28,320
Speaker 3: and the other, you could be one player away because

1458
01:16:28,320 --> 01:16:31,080
Speaker 3: that player is turns out to be something nobody thought

1459
01:16:31,080 --> 01:16:36,920
Speaker 3: he could be. Nineteen eighty eight strike yere or nineteen

1460
01:16:36,960 --> 01:16:39,000
Speaker 3: eighty seven strike years going to you know, and that

1461
01:16:39,080 --> 01:16:41,760
Speaker 3: how's going to all of a sudden be three team deal.

1462
01:16:41,760 --> 01:16:48,160
Speaker 3: All of a sudden, Bills they Greg Bell leaves, Cornice

1463
01:16:48,200 --> 01:16:49,920
Speaker 3: Bennett lands.

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01:16:51,640 --> 01:16:53,560
Speaker 1: That was a little bit of a worst multiplier.

1465
01:16:53,680 --> 01:16:56,360
Speaker 3: That was, yeah, that was not only we got rid

1466
01:16:56,400 --> 01:16:59,280
Speaker 3: of a guy that wasn't helping us. That much to

1467
01:16:59,320 --> 01:17:04,760
Speaker 3: a guy who dude was a game wreck, right like

1468
01:17:04,800 --> 01:17:07,120
Speaker 3: he was like a he was a guy that players

1469
01:17:07,120 --> 01:17:07,880
Speaker 3: whispered about.

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01:17:08,040 --> 01:17:08,240
Speaker 1: Right.

1471
01:17:08,520 --> 01:17:11,240
Speaker 3: So, and he's on the plane across from one of

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01:17:11,280 --> 01:17:13,559
Speaker 3: the time, the all time greatest past rusher in the

1473
01:17:13,560 --> 01:17:17,040
Speaker 3: history of the world, and we plugged Biscuit into them.

1474
01:17:17,160 --> 01:17:20,280
Speaker 3: I'm just like, let's go right so, some you know,

1475
01:17:20,320 --> 01:17:22,920
Speaker 3: if it's a player like that, it's easier to say, yeah,

1476
01:17:22,960 --> 01:17:25,760
Speaker 3: you're one player away. If how many teams are one

1477
01:17:25,800 --> 01:17:30,439
Speaker 3: player away? If that players Josh Allen, you know, okay,

1478
01:17:30,640 --> 01:17:33,680
Speaker 3: so the points made you name me a player out

1479
01:17:33,680 --> 01:17:37,200
Speaker 3: there that could be that player for the Bills. I listen,

1480
01:17:37,720 --> 01:17:42,599
Speaker 3: but I don't know, you know, yeah, I mean if so, yeah,

1481
01:17:42,640 --> 01:17:44,960
Speaker 3: there's that. If it's the right player, yeah, you are

1482
01:17:45,080 --> 01:17:46,200
Speaker 3: sometimes one player away.

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01:17:46,200 --> 01:17:50,800
Speaker 1: But no, Bob Bob on the tweet, he says, you

1484
01:17:50,840 --> 01:17:53,240
Speaker 1: know what you're getting and they are committed to the process.

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01:17:53,320 --> 01:17:56,560
Speaker 1: That is true and good. Look, with all the uncertainty

1486
01:17:58,200 --> 01:18:04,559
Speaker 1: in assembling an NFL roster, especially when you're using draft

1487
01:18:04,640 --> 01:18:07,960
Speaker 1: picks in the inexact science that is the NFL Draft,

1488
01:18:08,720 --> 01:18:12,240
Speaker 1: going with what you know can be a very easy

1489
01:18:12,320 --> 01:18:16,320
Speaker 1: path to want to follow because you know who Terrel

1490
01:18:16,360 --> 01:18:19,040
Speaker 1: Bernard is as a player number one, and you know

1491
01:18:19,080 --> 01:18:22,840
Speaker 1: what he is in your defensive scheme, right. Same goes

1492
01:18:22,880 --> 01:18:29,160
Speaker 1: through so Khalil Shakir and Josh Allen. So going with

1493
01:18:29,200 --> 01:18:33,280
Speaker 1: what you know is often a good formula in the NFL,

1494
01:18:33,320 --> 01:18:35,080
Speaker 1: where there are a lot of variables and a lot

1495
01:18:35,080 --> 01:18:35,800
Speaker 1: of unknowns.

1496
01:18:35,920 --> 01:18:41,000
Speaker 3: That coaches love stuff they can depend on. Even if

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01:18:41,479 --> 01:18:43,599
Speaker 3: even if it does place your floor a little lower

1498
01:18:43,960 --> 01:18:47,040
Speaker 3: than what other or make places you're ceiling a little lower,

1499
01:18:47,040 --> 01:18:52,320
Speaker 3: maybe you still know the floor is higher. At least

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01:18:52,360 --> 01:18:54,360
Speaker 3: you've got this, you know what I mean. Even if

1501
01:18:54,400 --> 01:18:56,120
Speaker 3: you don't have all of this stuff up here that

1502
01:18:56,560 --> 01:18:58,519
Speaker 3: blows the roof off, at least you're never going to

1503
01:18:58,600 --> 01:19:03,160
Speaker 3: go below this. Coaches love that stuff because they know

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01:19:03,200 --> 01:19:06,320
Speaker 3: what they can work with. It's really good and being

1505
01:19:06,320 --> 01:19:10,360
Speaker 3: committed to the process I think is huge. We forget

1506
01:19:10,360 --> 01:19:13,599
Speaker 3: about the fact that what they're doing inside this building

1507
01:19:14,840 --> 01:19:17,920
Speaker 3: gives the guys on this team a chance to win

1508
01:19:18,160 --> 01:19:21,760
Speaker 3: the super Bowl. Every single you get to the super Bowl,

1509
01:19:21,840 --> 01:19:24,479
Speaker 3: get to the playoffs, play well at the end, have

1510
01:19:24,520 --> 01:19:26,680
Speaker 3: a shot at it be as good a team as

1511
01:19:26,720 --> 01:19:30,080
Speaker 3: there is in the NFL. And really comes down to,

1512
01:19:30,240 --> 01:19:32,120
Speaker 3: like I always say, you got, you play well on

1513
01:19:32,120 --> 01:19:33,599
Speaker 3: that last day, You're gonna keep going.

1514
01:19:34,320 --> 01:19:35,800
Speaker 1: You're gonna go to the super Bowl.

1515
01:19:37,360 --> 01:19:40,120
Speaker 3: That's the kind of process and culture that's in this

1516
01:19:40,200 --> 01:19:43,439
Speaker 3: building right now, because of this GM, because of this

1517
01:19:43,479 --> 01:19:46,760
Speaker 3: head coach, because of this quarterback and the players that

1518
01:19:46,840 --> 01:19:51,400
Speaker 3: are around him, the Dawkins, the Milanos, the Dawson, knox At,

1519
01:19:51,439 --> 01:19:54,960
Speaker 3: Oliver Day, Kwon Jones, Connor McGovern, all these guys, Spencer

1520
01:19:55,000 --> 01:19:56,760
Speaker 3: brown all the way down the list. You got all

1521
01:19:56,800 --> 01:20:00,479
Speaker 3: these guys that are in it at a high level

1522
01:20:00,560 --> 01:20:06,559
Speaker 3: of culture and the process. Because that process works, It

1523
01:20:06,600 --> 01:20:07,360
Speaker 3: really works.

1524
01:20:08,280 --> 01:20:10,720
Speaker 1: Go Bills on the tweet sheet says love that they

1525
01:20:10,720 --> 01:20:12,760
Speaker 1: are keeping the core guys. You think about the drought

1526
01:20:12,800 --> 01:20:15,120
Speaker 1: era in watching guys leave the second they were eligible,

1527
01:20:15,160 --> 01:20:17,080
Speaker 1: and now lock up Benford. That price is going to

1528
01:20:17,160 --> 01:20:19,920
Speaker 1: keep going up and up and up. I'd let Cook

1529
01:20:20,000 --> 01:20:24,000
Speaker 1: play out this year's deal. I mean, we have seen

1530
01:20:26,080 --> 01:20:29,440
Speaker 1: more often than not that when you wait, it usually

1531
01:20:29,560 --> 01:20:35,160
Speaker 1: costs you more. But extending six core players in the

1532
01:20:35,200 --> 01:20:38,280
Speaker 1: same offseason is probably a little unrealistic.

1533
01:20:38,280 --> 01:20:43,479
Speaker 11: If you wait, it always costs you more. If you wait,

1534
01:20:43,600 --> 01:20:47,320
Speaker 11: it always costs you more, no question about it. But

1535
01:20:47,640 --> 01:20:49,639
Speaker 11: Brownie and I sit on two sides of the fence

1536
01:20:49,680 --> 01:20:53,280
Speaker 11: with the Cook contract. One is we both like the

1537
01:20:53,320 --> 01:20:55,320
Speaker 11: guy and that we both know he's in the upper

1538
01:20:55,360 --> 01:20:59,320
Speaker 11: echelon top I don't know, five, seven, ten, name it,

1539
01:20:59,760 --> 01:21:02,960
Speaker 11: top running backs in the league because of his athleticism,

1540
01:21:03,000 --> 01:21:06,479
Speaker 11: is versatility, his speed, you know, the dynamics of his game.

1541
01:21:06,800 --> 01:21:09,599
Speaker 11: He's all there. We both like him for that.

1542
01:21:10,080 --> 01:21:13,919
Speaker 3: The difference we have is where we value the difference

1543
01:21:14,120 --> 01:21:21,360
Speaker 3: between Cook and the next tier guys. I don't want

1544
01:21:21,360 --> 01:21:24,639
Speaker 3: to triple their paycheck to get Cook, which is kind

1545
01:21:24,640 --> 01:21:30,880
Speaker 3: of what you're thinking about. Not quadrupling now. So that's

1546
01:21:30,920 --> 01:21:34,960
Speaker 3: where you get into the decision making. Is a guy

1547
01:21:35,000 --> 01:21:37,160
Speaker 3: at that spot, like friends, are you gonna give a

1548
01:21:37,200 --> 01:21:38,599
Speaker 3: kicker thirty five million a year?

1549
01:21:38,960 --> 01:21:41,519
Speaker 1: Probably not? Right?

1550
01:21:42,320 --> 01:21:45,479
Speaker 3: A running back? Are you gonna get The Giants are

1551
01:21:45,479 --> 01:21:46,759
Speaker 3: paying Saquon twenty?

1552
01:21:47,000 --> 01:21:47,640
Speaker 1: The Eagles are.

1553
01:21:47,760 --> 01:21:49,800
Speaker 3: The Eagles are paying Saquon twenty.

1554
01:21:51,240 --> 01:21:52,280
Speaker 1: For the next two years.

1555
01:21:52,600 --> 01:21:56,120
Speaker 3: So are you gonna give Cook twenty million dollars?

1556
01:21:56,640 --> 01:21:59,360
Speaker 1: Well? No, he's hot in that tier and he doesn't

1557
01:21:59,400 --> 01:22:02,280
Speaker 1: have that work, but you may have to start talking

1558
01:22:02,280 --> 01:22:04,960
Speaker 1: about fourteen or fifteen, and I don't know if they

1559
01:22:05,040 --> 01:22:07,680
Speaker 1: want to do that. The only reason I argue in

1560
01:22:07,720 --> 01:22:11,160
Speaker 1: favor of it is for the same reason as one

1561
01:22:11,200 --> 01:22:15,640
Speaker 1: of our earlier callers, Like the Eagles are paying everybody

1562
01:22:16,000 --> 01:22:18,799
Speaker 1: that's top tier player. Who are the top tier players

1563
01:22:18,800 --> 01:22:21,880
Speaker 1: on Buffalo's roster. It's Josh Allen and James Cook and

1564
01:22:22,040 --> 01:22:24,800
Speaker 1: James Cook. If you don't have an alpha receiver like

1565
01:22:24,880 --> 01:22:28,439
Speaker 1: AJ Brown, you don't have an alpha pass rusher.

1566
01:22:29,200 --> 01:22:32,920
Speaker 3: You know, I'll say this, You're right about Cook and

1567
01:22:33,040 --> 01:22:38,680
Speaker 3: all those guys, But I tend to value you know,

1568
01:22:40,320 --> 01:22:46,559
Speaker 3: Dion Dawkins, Spencer Brown, Osirius Torrance. I value them as

1569
01:22:46,640 --> 01:22:49,400
Speaker 3: much as the guy they're blocking for and the guys

1570
01:22:49,400 --> 01:22:53,280
Speaker 3: that are catching passes. Those guys, to me, are worthy

1571
01:22:53,439 --> 01:22:58,360
Speaker 3: of the big contracts for their position, and healthy contracts

1572
01:22:58,400 --> 01:23:02,519
Speaker 3: or whatever they commensate with their perform hormans, And as

1573
01:23:02,560 --> 01:23:07,320
Speaker 3: a group, you've got to spend more there than any

1574
01:23:07,360 --> 01:23:09,639
Speaker 3: position really, just about any position group on the team,

1575
01:23:09,720 --> 01:23:14,840
Speaker 3: unless you've got a couple of elite pass rushers. I

1576
01:23:14,960 --> 01:23:17,880
Speaker 3: just think the offensive line is as if you've got

1577
01:23:17,880 --> 01:23:23,320
Speaker 3: those guys in line, then the difference between James Cook

1578
01:23:23,400 --> 01:23:27,000
Speaker 3: and Billy Bag of Donuts closes, it narrows.

1579
01:23:27,840 --> 01:23:28,559
Speaker 1: Maybe you're never.

1580
01:23:28,479 --> 01:23:30,800
Speaker 3: Gonna get Billy bag of donuts where James Cook is.

1581
01:23:32,360 --> 01:23:34,040
Speaker 3: But you can also do it for a tenth of

1582
01:23:34,040 --> 01:23:34,519
Speaker 3: the cost.

1583
01:23:35,040 --> 01:23:38,000
Speaker 1: But is that good enough to win on a roster

1584
01:23:39,120 --> 01:23:42,479
Speaker 1: that doesn't have an aj Brown may not even have

1585
01:23:42,520 --> 01:23:47,160
Speaker 1: a DeVante Smith doesn't have, you know what I mean? Like,

1586
01:23:47,280 --> 01:23:50,920
Speaker 1: I got it the elite talent here, top tier talent,

1587
01:23:51,200 --> 01:23:54,400
Speaker 1: like tippy tippy top of the mountain. Here is Josh

1588
01:23:54,479 --> 01:23:56,920
Speaker 1: Allen and James Cook. Yeah, that's it.

1589
01:23:57,040 --> 01:24:00,360
Speaker 3: I get it on offense, But Josh makes all those

1590
01:24:00,360 --> 01:24:03,040
Speaker 3: other guys what they are. Anyway, You think MATC Collins

1591
01:24:03,120 --> 01:24:05,439
Speaker 3: is gonna catch five or what is it's five touchdowns

1592
01:24:05,479 --> 01:24:05,800
Speaker 3: this year?

1593
01:24:05,840 --> 01:24:08,519
Speaker 1: Seven touches caught five last year and he led the team.

1594
01:24:08,720 --> 01:24:10,920
Speaker 1: You think he's gonna catch five for New England.

1595
01:24:12,640 --> 01:24:13,840
Speaker 3: Now he's not.

1596
01:24:14,439 --> 01:24:18,440
Speaker 1: No, but the top end was five. That's my point.

1597
01:24:18,640 --> 01:24:21,640
Speaker 1: The top end was five. That guy led the team.

1598
01:24:22,120 --> 01:24:23,920
Speaker 1: What are you doing if you take what are you doing?

1599
01:24:23,960 --> 01:24:26,840
Speaker 1: If you take eighteen touchdowns away which is what Cook

1600
01:24:26,880 --> 01:24:29,760
Speaker 1: had last year? Sixteen on the ground, two through the air.

1601
01:24:29,920 --> 01:24:32,680
Speaker 1: You're not taking away five. You're taking away eighteen on

1602
01:24:32,720 --> 01:24:37,040
Speaker 1: a team who's next best guy was five? Like, I

1603
01:24:37,040 --> 01:24:40,840
Speaker 1: don't know if you can sustain your level of success.

1604
01:24:41,080 --> 01:24:43,680
Speaker 3: I get that, but here's because of the subtraction you

1605
01:24:43,720 --> 01:24:46,479
Speaker 3: would be making. You had the two guys that rush

1606
01:24:46,560 --> 01:24:49,280
Speaker 3: for the most touchdowns, it's James Cook at sixteen and

1607
01:24:49,360 --> 01:24:55,040
Speaker 3: Josh for twelve, and then it's just then it's Davis

1608
01:24:55,640 --> 01:25:02,840
Speaker 3: for Ray Davis for three receiving touchdowns, uh Owens with five,

1609
01:25:03,720 --> 01:25:10,120
Speaker 3: Hollands with five, Coleman with four, tearing t Johnson Ty

1610
01:25:10,280 --> 01:25:15,120
Speaker 3: Johnson with three, Shakir with four, Cooper with two.

1611
01:25:15,160 --> 01:25:18,720
Speaker 1: And look, everybody eats mentality and then with one. You

1612
01:25:18,720 --> 01:25:20,000
Speaker 1: know what I'm driving at here.

1613
01:25:19,920 --> 01:25:24,679
Speaker 3: Like I don't know, I do, but I don't like it. Yeah,

1614
01:25:25,080 --> 01:25:27,360
Speaker 3: because I don't care. I don't want a guy to

1615
01:25:27,400 --> 01:25:30,679
Speaker 3: score one thousand touchdowns. I want four guys to score

1616
01:25:31,800 --> 01:25:32,519
Speaker 3: five hundred.

1617
01:25:33,680 --> 01:25:37,240
Speaker 1: Eh and I and I respect that. But if that's

1618
01:25:37,240 --> 01:25:39,240
Speaker 1: the way you're gonna go in there, because goes.

1619
01:25:39,120 --> 01:25:41,439
Speaker 3: Down, Because if Cook goes down to a suspension or

1620
01:25:41,479 --> 01:25:44,680
Speaker 3: a twisted ankle, or a hangnail or or a concussion,

1621
01:25:45,439 --> 01:25:48,920
Speaker 3: you're done. The way it was with this year's team,

1622
01:25:49,240 --> 01:25:52,720
Speaker 3: you lose Amari Cooper for with a wrist, Coleman with

1623
01:25:52,760 --> 01:25:56,519
Speaker 3: a wrist, You lose Kincaid with a knee you lose

1624
01:25:56,920 --> 01:26:01,400
Speaker 3: Samuel with a turf toe, you lose who else, name

1625
01:26:01,439 --> 01:26:04,599
Speaker 3: it who you and you don't even You're still scoring

1626
01:26:04,640 --> 01:26:05,360
Speaker 3: thirty points a.

1627
01:26:05,320 --> 01:26:10,760
Speaker 1: Game because you have James Cook. That's why those guys

1628
01:26:10,800 --> 01:26:11,760
Speaker 1: all contributed. Though.

1629
01:26:11,760 --> 01:26:14,519
Speaker 3: If James Cook's not there, you got Ty Johnson, who

1630
01:26:14,560 --> 01:26:17,320
Speaker 3: in the Detroit game catches like all those passes and goes.

1631
01:26:17,640 --> 01:26:20,639
Speaker 3: You got a bunch of guys. If if James Cook's

1632
01:26:20,680 --> 01:26:22,639
Speaker 3: off the top of that offense, you think they go

1633
01:26:22,800 --> 01:26:23,559
Speaker 3: thirteen and four?

1634
01:26:23,720 --> 01:26:23,760
Speaker 6: No?

1635
01:26:24,120 --> 01:26:27,720
Speaker 1: Okay, what? Okay? How big a difference is there? I

1636
01:26:27,720 --> 01:26:29,599
Speaker 1: think because I don't know, I think it might at

1637
01:26:29,640 --> 01:26:30,599
Speaker 1: least be three games.

1638
01:26:30,680 --> 01:26:31,160
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1639
01:26:32,160 --> 01:26:34,000
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, and I love Ty Johnson, and

1640
01:26:34,040 --> 01:26:36,200
Speaker 1: I like Ray Dames Zuke. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I get

1641
01:26:36,200 --> 01:26:38,120
Speaker 1: that too. I mean, we all love. The concern is

1642
01:26:38,160 --> 01:26:40,920
Speaker 1: the lack of elite talent. That's the concern for me.

1643
01:26:41,120 --> 01:26:42,960
Speaker 1: And if you take one of the two guys on

1644
01:26:43,040 --> 01:26:50,160
Speaker 1: offense who is admittedly elite difference maker, separator, playmaker, home

1645
01:26:50,240 --> 01:26:52,400
Speaker 1: run hitter, I have it.

1646
01:26:52,439 --> 01:26:54,679
Speaker 3: You're just saying that left you got nothing, you think,

1647
01:26:54,680 --> 01:26:57,040
Speaker 3: and these other guys have not saying you have nothing.

1648
01:26:57,360 --> 01:27:00,880
Speaker 1: Right, So there's not your boys is not that devoid

1649
01:27:00,960 --> 01:27:05,160
Speaker 1: of an elite playmaker A last year that doesn't have

1650
01:27:05,400 --> 01:27:05,960
Speaker 1: at them.

1651
01:27:06,000 --> 01:27:08,200
Speaker 3: That's this is a debate. We're going to continue with them.

1652
01:27:08,360 --> 01:27:13,519
Speaker 1: I believe we will, but you know still I think

1653
01:27:13,520 --> 01:27:18,479
Speaker 1: I'm right. We'll take a break and wrap things up

1654
01:27:18,520 --> 01:27:22,160
Speaker 1: here in a second. Saw a wild game that is

1655
01:27:22,200 --> 01:27:25,080
Speaker 1: played in some small town in England. You got to

1656
01:27:25,120 --> 01:27:28,519
Speaker 1: hear about it because it is absolute insanity and they've

1657
01:27:28,560 --> 01:27:30,479
Speaker 1: been doing it since the sixteen hundreds. We'll tell you

1658
01:27:30,520 --> 01:27:31,840
Speaker 1: about it next year on One Bill's Live.

1659
01:27:31,880 --> 01:27:48,840
Speaker 12: Stay with us, all right, I want to have a

1660
01:27:48,840 --> 01:27:50,200
Speaker 12: little fun here on One Bill's Live.

1661
01:27:50,320 --> 01:27:52,719
Speaker 1: Here on Saint Patrick's Day. Came across this and wanted

1662
01:27:52,720 --> 01:27:55,400
Speaker 1: to share it. It's called the Royal Shrovetide. It's a

1663
01:27:55,520 --> 01:27:59,040
Speaker 1: ridiculous game played in a single town in England and

1664
01:27:59,080 --> 01:28:01,160
Speaker 1: goes back to like the city sixteen hundreds. It's called

1665
01:28:01,160 --> 01:28:06,960
Speaker 1: an ancient descendant of soccer, but it is nothing like soccer.

1666
01:28:08,200 --> 01:28:10,360
Speaker 1: I mean, it even has a rule forbidding players from

1667
01:28:10,439 --> 01:28:12,920
Speaker 1: murdering each other. It's in the rule book.

1668
01:28:12,960 --> 01:28:14,040
Speaker 3: You got to write that stuff down.

1669
01:28:14,120 --> 01:28:16,519
Speaker 1: So every year you have thousands of people descend on

1670
01:28:16,560 --> 01:28:19,040
Speaker 1: this town in the English countryside, it's a two day

1671
01:28:19,840 --> 01:28:26,160
Speaker 1: game of mass street football, which could easily be mistaken

1672
01:28:26,240 --> 01:28:29,040
Speaker 1: for a riot the way it operates. They basically get

1673
01:28:29,040 --> 01:28:30,920
Speaker 1: in this massive humanity in the middle of the town.

1674
01:28:31,680 --> 01:28:34,040
Speaker 1: They throw this pumpkin sized ball up in the air,

1675
01:28:34,760 --> 01:28:37,559
Speaker 1: and two teams battle it out to try to get

1676
01:28:37,560 --> 01:28:39,880
Speaker 1: it to the other end, the opposite end of town.

1677
01:28:40,040 --> 01:28:43,519
Speaker 1: And there are like very few rules here. There aren't

1678
01:28:43,520 --> 01:28:46,720
Speaker 1: any uniforms, so I have to imagine there's a lot

1679
01:28:46,720 --> 01:28:49,400
Speaker 1: of deception as to whose team you're on. And the

1680
01:28:49,439 --> 01:28:51,680
Speaker 1: players get in this big thing called a hug, which

1681
01:28:51,720 --> 01:28:55,880
Speaker 1: I guess would mimic a scrum and rugby, and they

1682
01:28:55,920 --> 01:28:57,519
Speaker 1: try to get a ball to a guy out on

1683
01:28:57,560 --> 01:28:59,479
Speaker 1: the edge and he tries to high tail it down

1684
01:28:59,520 --> 01:29:00,479
Speaker 1: an alley gets like.

1685
01:29:00,400 --> 01:29:02,600
Speaker 3: A stadium where they're batting a ball around, like an

1686
01:29:02,640 --> 01:29:04,719
Speaker 3: inflatable beach ball around a stadium.

1687
01:29:05,080 --> 01:29:08,320
Speaker 1: It was described like a tug of war without a rope.

1688
01:29:09,880 --> 01:29:13,440
Speaker 1: It's basically the game. Let's go hundreds of players.

1689
01:29:13,960 --> 01:29:16,120
Speaker 3: I wonder if there's a time out where they stop

1690
01:29:16,160 --> 01:29:18,599
Speaker 3: and whatever pub you're nearest to just like stumble into

1691
01:29:18,600 --> 01:29:18,920
Speaker 3: that thing.

1692
01:29:18,960 --> 01:29:21,400
Speaker 1: They basically put up no parking signs to tell people

1693
01:29:21,479 --> 01:29:25,800
Speaker 1: do not park in this area can very easily be moved, vandalized,

1694
01:29:25,840 --> 01:29:28,559
Speaker 1: flipped over to get out of the way. So it's

1695
01:29:29,200 --> 01:29:31,880
Speaker 1: they're not amazing. They're absolutely nuts over there with some

1696
01:29:31,920 --> 01:29:33,920
Speaker 1: of the games they come up with. Isn't there that

1697
01:29:33,960 --> 01:29:36,400
Speaker 1: other game where they roll those giant cheese wheels down

1698
01:29:36,400 --> 01:29:39,439
Speaker 1: the hill and guys are going head over heels chasing

1699
01:29:39,479 --> 01:29:42,160
Speaker 1: the cheese wheel. That's it for us today. I enjoy

1700
01:29:42,200 --> 01:29:44,120
Speaker 1: your Saint Patrick's Day. We'll see you here tomorrow at

1701
01:29:44,120 --> 01:29:55,000
Speaker 1: one