1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:02,640 Speaker 1: Can if I am six forty you're listening to the 2 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 1: John and Ken Show on demand on the iHeartRadio app. 3 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:12,719 Speaker 2: All right, it was a week ago when one horrible 4 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 2: tragedy struck in Thousand Oaks outside of Westlake High School. 5 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:21,800 Speaker 2: A man ran down several teens who were gathered outside, 6 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:28,479 Speaker 2: caused severe damage and did kill a fifteen year old teen, 7 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 2: Wesley Welling, who was hanging out there in front of 8 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 2: the school with some of his friends. Others who were 9 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:41,200 Speaker 2: injured were severely injured and still remain in hospital treatment care. 10 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 2: We have a chance now to talk to Wesley's father, 11 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 2: Craig Welling, about his. 12 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 1: Son and find out more about the young man. Craig, 13 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 1: welcome to the Johnny Ken Show. 14 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 3: Thank you, John and Ken. It's an honor and a 15 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 3: privilege to be on your show. Thank you. I've been 16 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 3: listening from day one. 17 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 1: Well, thank you, and we're really really sorry about that. 18 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, on your son, who from all we can read, 19 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:13,559 Speaker 2: Craig really beloved for just to fifteen years old. 20 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: He's certainly had a lot of fans. 21 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I am, because I'm asked a lot. The best 22 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 3: thing anybody can do for our family is to hug 23 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 3: a loved one. Every day, Wesley and I hugged a lot, 24 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 3: and I will I will miss those daily hugs and 25 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 3: a shout out from both grandma's. 26 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 4: They also told me to say they miss Wesley's hugs. 27 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 3: But the number one priority that I must say is 28 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 3: I wanted thanks to all the wonderful people for all 29 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 3: their prayers and messages, their heartfully heard, deeply felt. For example, 30 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 3: I have gone in cognito for the memorial events and 31 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 3: I listened to the silences and I'm listen to the stories, 32 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 3: and thanks to you, blessed wonderful people. When we're at 33 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 3: our lowest of despair, you are there with your love 34 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 3: and your encouragement, loving experiences and your prayers. They lift 35 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 3: my family up where we find smile among these tears 36 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 3: and sorrow. Our local community also is incredible. Community is important. 37 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 3: I've given in times of need and never thought about it, 38 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:39,079 Speaker 3: so did do so. But to be on the receiving end, 39 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 3: I want to say, your support of us and the 40 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 3: other victims is speciless, beyond measure. And as Wes they 41 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 3: like to say, every act of kindness is a little 42 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 3: bit of love we leave behind. 43 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 4: Wes see is truly loved because he was loving and 44 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 4: sometimes with bad joke, but Wesley, it's a good example. 45 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 3: Would be a man who came up to me and 46 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:10,079 Speaker 3: pointed at me and look. I pointed to Wesley and said, 47 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 3: is that your son? And I said, route depends and 48 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 3: he said, well, Wesley rushed ahead to open the door 49 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 3: for me and my wife, and that I had raised 50 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 3: a gentleman. I believe you get two chances at having 51 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 3: a childhood, being a child, and second at being a parent. 52 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 3: I received from Wesley things I didn't receive from my dad. 53 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 3: Hugs forehead to forehead, staring in the eyes, moments, adventurous moments. 54 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 3: Wesley enjoyed giving hugs two loved ones. He would he 55 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 3: would surprise me and throw his arms around me and 56 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 3: then look into my eyes and say, I love you dad. 57 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 3: He was a very happy kid, and I caused play 58 00:03:56,560 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 3: Star Trek and so he picked up cause play of 59 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 3: Jason Friday, the thirteen Toll Me and all that stuff. 60 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 3: And then he has his assorted odds play a military outfits. 61 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 3: He has nerve weapons at all of every door and 62 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 3: window in the house, which I haven't touched because for 63 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 3: the appending zombie apocalypse Wesley was an old soul. He 64 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 3: had the soul of a Klingon warrior with the heart 65 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 3: of a loving poet. And I have the best relationship 66 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 3: of father they ever had with his son, close beyond compare, 67 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 3: with no regrets of any wasted time. I'm so proud 68 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 3: of him, and the family pets list him. The cat 69 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 3: goes up on his bed and sits there. I thought 70 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 3: him how to pick belts, how to clip your toenails, 71 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 3: for ex. Shampoo for his type of hair. The next 72 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 3: one is to be shaving. That's why when you see me, 73 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:58,359 Speaker 3: I haven't shaved. I haven't been able to get to it. 74 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:02,279 Speaker 3: And in the last two days he asked me, Dad, 75 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:04,359 Speaker 3: can you show me poker under herds stands? So we 76 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 3: went over over over he At first he he spurof 77 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 3: out and he caught on and right when he I 78 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 3: saw the light in his eyes. I did something. He's all, 79 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 3: wait a minute, that's impossible. You couldn't have won that. 80 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:17,720 Speaker 3: How did you win? And I said, and I mean 81 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:18,279 Speaker 3: we understood. 82 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 5: I go. 83 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 3: I buffed him, bluff, bluss, and he bluff. He put 84 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 3: his hand, pushed me out the way. He let me 85 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 3: in there and he went he would, He'd say okay, 86 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 3: He'd called me across the room. So whatever, whenever my 87 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 3: kids say anything, I dropped what I'm doing. I go 88 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 3: because room, I check it out, because I'm going all in. Dad, well, 89 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:40,479 Speaker 3: he always went all in on life, and but this 90 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 3: time he didn't realize that the deck was stacked against him. 91 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 3: A lot of Wesley's gentle nature he learned from his 92 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 3: wonderful sister. Wesley and Hima were a team. They loved 93 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:56,159 Speaker 3: each other, and Wesley looked out for her. I can't 94 00:05:56,200 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 3: express how terrible this is for Wes's sister, mother, Kelly, 95 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 3: and Wessey's little brother. Continues to be the nightmare for 96 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 3: all of them. Watching Thisley die, Wesley, his brother, and Sistery. 97 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:13,159 Speaker 3: He volunteer at a local church to feed the homeless. 98 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 3: Wesley was in two plays with me. Both times he 99 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 3: played my son in both plays. We almost completed Wesley's 100 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 3: YouTube channel after three years of building, but I never 101 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 3: got to hang beyond the air sign. Wesley Hannah have 102 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 3: dungeons and dragons characters. Wesley wanted to play the drums, 103 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 3: where I would play the bass and vocals, and Hannah 104 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 3: would be on the violin. Because I used to be 105 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 3: in a band years ago and it would be called 106 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 3: a set like three. Everywhere Wesley was is now like 107 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:51,919 Speaker 3: it's like an emptiness or a darkness, and so I 108 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 3: know I'll get through that. So they're like things that 109 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 3: we used to do together because of my big part 110 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 3: of my children's lives that that was like ripped anyway, 111 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 3: it's painful. Wesley was to take over my field management 112 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 3: position for a d d G. That's American Baseball Development Group, 113 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 3: that's the Mysocials organization, and they were looking forward to 114 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 3: working with Wesley. Wes he was an enthusiastic old soul 115 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 3: that was passionate, caring, creative and intelligent and a bit 116 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 3: of a procrastinator. 117 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 1: I will say, yeah, yeah, that's well, that's about His 118 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 1: beautiful remembrance has a great tribute, Craig. 119 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 2: And I tell you what, as loving as you described him, 120 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 2: you must have raised quite a boy. I must you 121 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 2: two must have been great parents, because oh, you don't 122 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 2: find fifteen year olds who want to do a lot 123 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 2: of hugging. Not fifteen year old boys. 124 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 3: Right, And he would do it at school. It wouldn't matter. 125 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 3: He was just full of and he would look for 126 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 3: the people, the odd people out because he knew my 127 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 3: childhood where I was the nerd. I was a total nerd, 128 00:07:57,040 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 3: and I felt not that he would look for those 129 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 3: people and befriend him, and yet he was popular, so 130 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 3: he you know, he tried to play that both sides 131 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 3: and uh do it. Hugs are healing. I just want 132 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 3: to also to let people go out. The hugs you 133 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 3: did are just very healing. 134 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 2: Oh and I understand that Sunday night there was like 135 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 2: a fundraiser, right, a whole lot of people showed up 136 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 2: in the community to tribute. 137 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, it blew me away. I was. I was in 138 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 3: this this weird position of if I had the kids 139 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 3: there and I'm being that pillar of strength and yet 140 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 3: trying to be happy with the kids in experiencing. But 141 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 3: it all worked out with everybody there and everything it 142 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 3: was in the support, it was. It was wonderful. And 143 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 3: my daughter is actually kind of forgot what was going on. 144 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 3: She was actually having a good time because she's she's 145 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:52,679 Speaker 3: had some she's got yeah, some issues there as she 146 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:56,440 Speaker 3: did really well, how's your wife doing? And and thank 147 00:08:56,559 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 3: everybody there that was there. My wife she is it 148 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 3: has hard times. That's they're all into therapy and they're 149 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 3: even the Yeah, the therapy needs to be Yeah, I'm 150 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 3: not gonna get any details, but yeah, there are some 151 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 3: issues so uh and and she is the most for 152 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 3: ten years, I have never married a fallen in love 153 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 3: with any other woman because I found out that I 154 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 3: can never love a woman as much as I love Kelly, 155 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 3: the mother of my children. I mean, so my time 156 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 3: and my money and my devotion has been for my children. 157 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 3: So I'm like, you know, that's why I feel that 158 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 3: part of me just ripped out. So I a healing 159 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:44,320 Speaker 3: boss is something I've going to learn. But as a Taoist, 160 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 3: we can. I can decompartmentalize thoughts. And as a man, 161 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 3: you know, you there's a if you look up up 162 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 3: that word's a it's a way a tree grows. I'm 163 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 3: a horticulturalist, so it's a mental way to put your 164 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 3: your thoughts in the strongest parts and then let them 165 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 3: go to the weakest parts. I could describe it. But anyway, Yeah, that's. 166 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:10,839 Speaker 1: Well, Craig. 167 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 2: Is there any place people can go to uh, you know, 168 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 2: remember your son at tribute to fundraising site? Any kind 169 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 2: of a place they. 170 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 3: Can No, I want to admit one thing. Kelly was 171 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:26,199 Speaker 3: not here so she couldn't tell you. I can't tell 172 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:30,200 Speaker 3: you anything. I have tuned out ever since this happened 173 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 3: of everything. In fact, when I went to court, they've 174 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 3: told me what I didn't even know. We wanted to spree. 175 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 3: I was just in shock, you know, the whole thing. 176 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 3: I'm learning everything that's going on, so I've been ignorant, 177 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 3: and as far as the where to go, I think 178 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 3: it's all over the place. If you look it up, 179 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 3: there's a GoFundMe. I wish I had that information, but 180 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 3: I am yeah, because I'm completely separate from from that. 181 00:10:56,679 --> 00:11:00,440 Speaker 3: From that part, I'm still going to work the work 182 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 3: every day, and I rebuild the mound I did in 183 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 3: my son's name. I got the skin where it comes 184 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:09,199 Speaker 3: off from the skin to the glass or to the 185 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 3: outbuild perfectly flat so no bounce. And I do it 186 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 3: for the name of my son. So it keeps me going, 187 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 3: all right. 188 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:19,319 Speaker 2: Craig Welling, thank you so much for talking to us 189 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 2: and I, like we said, it was an incredibly wonderful 190 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 2: tribute to your son Wesley. 191 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 1: We appreciate hearing from you, and we're going to get 192 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 1: all the information for the fun find it and we'll 193 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 1: broadcast it and we'll have it on our website. And again, 194 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 1: we're really really sorry for your loss, but thank you 195 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 1: for coming on and tell the whole. 196 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 3: World about your son so much and bless you. 197 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 2: That's Craig Welling, the father of Wesley Welling, and you 198 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:47,320 Speaker 2: can see when he talked about his son, the personality 199 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:50,679 Speaker 2: probably very similar. Wesley Welling was the fifteen year old 200 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 2: teen who was run over with a group of teens 201 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 2: outside of Westlake High School and Thousand Oaks a week 202 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 2: ago by what turns out to be we believe a 203 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 2: homeless man who went on a rampage. More coming up, 204 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 2: Johnny Ken kf I AM six forty Live everywhere the 205 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 2: iHeartRadio app. 206 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 6: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from kf 207 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 6: I AM six forty. 208 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 2: All right, we'll get that information for you to remember 209 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 2: Wesley Welling, the fifteen year old boy who was run 210 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 2: over with a group of teens up in Thousand Oaks 211 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 2: a week ago. We just talked to his father, Craig, 212 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 2: and we'll get the information there for people who want 213 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 2: to do something special for the family in remembrance of 214 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:33,199 Speaker 2: that young man. His father did quite a touching tribute 215 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 2: to his son. And if you didn't hear it, well, John, 216 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 2: what do you do? 217 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 1: You get the podcast after destroying on the iHeartRadio and 218 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 1: I demand, let me see here. I think I've got 219 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 1: We've got the information. Oh okay, we're gonna put it 220 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 1: up on the website too. Yeah, it just went on 221 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 1: social media. I'm just clicking it now. So the go 222 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 1: fundme page is entitled in Memory of Wesley Welling. So 223 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:01,680 Speaker 1: go to gofund me dot and type in the search 224 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 1: box in memory of Wesley Welling Alpellage And already two 225 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:13,559 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty five thousand dollars has been raised. That's fantastic, 226 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:13,959 Speaker 1: all right. 227 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:16,839 Speaker 2: Now we know that the suspect in that case is 228 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 2: supposedly unhoused. Anyway, we mentioned yesterday the Upper Marin County. 229 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 2: There was a two mile long section of a road 230 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 2: near the one oh one, which is lined with people 231 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 2: living in urvs. And when we talked about that story, 232 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 2: I had tried to remember, and now I have it 233 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 2: in front of me, the massive encampment at Harbor Gateway. 234 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 2: They believe that there were five hundred RVs in this area. 235 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 2: It's an unincorporated area of La County, of course, leading 236 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 2: to Gardena and Torrance. More than five hundred RVs have 237 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 2: been there lining the streets. We bring you that because 238 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:59,080 Speaker 2: we have Fox eleven reporter Hayley Winslow. 239 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 1: Giving the latest done. 240 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 2: One of the big big problems with having that many 241 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 2: RVs packed in together, what people do. 242 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 1: Let's listen to this report. 243 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 7: Here's kind of a strange dichotomy for you. So the 244 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 7: top part of the one of five one ten interchange 245 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 7: is the opening very famous scene from La La Land. 246 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 7: Just underneath it burnt out grass. One of twenty homeless 247 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 7: fires in the last four days. 248 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 8: There's been twenty fires in this general vicinity of the 249 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 8: one of five to one ten area since last Thursday. 250 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 7: Four or more homeless fires a day, all within one 251 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 7: mile of this one O five one ten interchange. Community 252 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 7: advocate David Matthew says, they're all are set and most 253 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 7: often in the middle of the night. 254 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 1: I think the. 255 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 8: Biggest one was we had a fire at five point 256 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 8: thirty in the morning. We were out there at five 257 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 8: forty five, so we saved the RV from going up. 258 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 8: We sat out there for an hour and left, and 259 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 8: then within the time we left within one hour, the 260 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 8: RV was back in flame. Someone had set it up 261 00:14:58,560 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 8: on fire with gasoline. 262 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 7: Not the one that the woman had third degree. 263 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 8: Bear No, that was a different one. The woman with 264 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 8: the third degree burns. Unfortunate situation of the dog actually died. 265 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 8: That was inside the vehicle, so there's a shrine there 266 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 8: now to it. 267 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 7: The dog was living in the homeless RV and didn't 268 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 7: make it out. First responders rushed the dog's owner to 269 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 7: the hospital burn unit. The homeless fires are in campers, 270 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 7: tense grassy encampments, and along the railroad tracks. 271 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 8: One of the biggest challenges we have in the Gateway 272 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 8: is we have all these overlapping jurisdictions. It actually happened 273 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 8: on state property, so now you have to get Caltrans 274 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 8: and CHP involved to let them know that, hey, you 275 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 8: had a fire, and then it was the city fire 276 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 8: department that responded. 277 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 7: So in a way, it's actually kind of a perfect 278 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 7: place where homeless personal life. 279 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 8: It's the perfect platform. 280 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 7: Before these most recent twenty fires, Matthews counted about one 281 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 7: homeless fire a week in Harbor Gateway and unincorporated La County. 282 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 7: The sixth square mile area now known as the largest 283 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 7: homeless RV campment in the county is home to about 284 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 7: five hundred and fifty raggedy RVs, many accompanied with crime, drugs, weapons, 285 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 7: and human waste. 286 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 5: Well maybe we went and dump illegally if instead of 287 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 5: sending bulldozers and like, what are sanitation workers down the street? Like, 288 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 5: they could put dumpsters on every block or do something 289 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 5: different to help us to dispose of our trash properly. 290 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 1: We need somewhere to put it. 291 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 5: There's other things, resources and things that they could offer us. 292 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 7: Even with homeless ode region every couple of weeks cleanups 293 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 7: and a master county plan now in place, neighbors and 294 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 7: business owners don't have a lot of faith in what 295 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 7: they call the growing wild wild West calming anytime soon. 296 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 1: I think as a community, we just need more help. 297 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 7: They need more community members stand up and report these issues, 298 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 7: they say, and they also need, of course the community 299 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 7: leaders the county officials to make the plan that they 300 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 7: have in place come to fruition. I just got off 301 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 7: the phone with LAPD and they're looking into them as 302 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:04,680 Speaker 7: well as two similar arson sprees in Olympic and in 303 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 7: the Valley over the last few days. Very similar situation. 304 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 7: They don't yet know if it's the same. 305 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 2: Person, that's from Haley Winslow Fox eleven. They did a 306 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:15,479 Speaker 2: story on this a couple of months ago, and there 307 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:18,199 Speaker 2: were one hundred and eighty fires in this area in 308 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 2: twenty twenty two. She was reporting on the latest raft 309 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:23,160 Speaker 2: and fire in this a month ago. 310 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 1: The county supervisor for this area is Janis Han, So 311 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 1: it's it's hopeless. I have it as Holly Mitchell. Is 312 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:31,200 Speaker 1: it both of us? Is it Holly Mitchell? 313 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 2: This Fox eleven story? Maybe this overlap. Holly Mitchell represents 314 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:39,920 Speaker 2: most of the affected area and put out a statement 315 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:42,160 Speaker 2: that once again we have outreached teams and. 316 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 1: Blah blah blah blah blah. This story I'm reading is 317 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 1: swim a couple of months ago. But is it called 318 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:52,359 Speaker 1: Harbor Gateway? Yeah, Harbor Gateway is a big area there. 319 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:56,199 Speaker 2: What that story talked about was an area where the 320 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 2: one ten and the one oh five freeways come together, 321 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 2: which I didn't know it was considered Harbor Gateway. She says, 322 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 2: it's a six square mile area year Harbor Gateway. Obviously 323 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:11,159 Speaker 2: it's it's an o man's land, and I hate it. 324 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 2: I want to hear these news stories because we actually 325 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 2: I had to deal with this with the encampment on 326 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 2: Sama Cente Boulevard. You get these stupid jurisdictional issues. 327 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 9: Oh, because that's how you kick the camp right, And 328 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:30,119 Speaker 9: that's that's all they love. All these idiot, do nothing 329 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 9: loser politicians like Janis Hahn and Holly Mitchell and Karen Bassetti. 330 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 9: They love jurisdictional problems because they can build a shield 331 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 9: to protect them all from any responsibility by saying it's 332 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 9: some other entities problem. Oh wow, that's coltrans Oh that's 333 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:49,880 Speaker 9: the county. 334 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:52,439 Speaker 1: Well that that's the city. You got to talk to 335 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:55,199 Speaker 1: the councilman. No, you got to talk to the supervisor. No, no, no, 336 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 1: it's a state. And they go around and around, and 337 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 1: in about five minutes you could get somebody from each jurisdiction, 338 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 1: each department to sit down. And this isn't very hard. 339 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 1: Is you told these freaking RVs, this r V out 340 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:12,439 Speaker 1: of there. This is gonna be the lingering problem. That 341 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 1: is not a legitimate way to live. 342 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 10: And that lady going, oh, we need services, we need 343 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 10: someplace to put our No, you need to go get 344 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 10: a job, and you're not living that's life. 345 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 1: I don't have to give you made services, valet services 346 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 1: and clean up your garbage because you don't bother to 347 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:35,879 Speaker 1: go to work and you're living in a pig sty, 348 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 1: a a of an RV with some crazy psycho setting 349 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:42,440 Speaker 1: twenty fires in a week. 350 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 2: All right, when we come back, she's a strange development. 351 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 2: And the big story from last year into this year, 352 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 2: and that was the murders of the Idaho college students 353 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 2: in their off campus house the University of Idaho. We're 354 00:19:57,280 --> 00:20:00,159 Speaker 2: gonna be talking Alex Stone, ABC News for KFI. The 355 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:03,120 Speaker 2: weird development is that the one of the surviving roommates 356 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 2: who was in the house that night and believe she 357 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 2: may have encountered the man accused of these horrible crimes, 358 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 2: Brian Coberger, inside the house in the dark. It seems 359 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 2: like she wants nothing to do with the case. She 360 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:17,119 Speaker 2: is asking not to be able, not to have to 361 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 2: appear at the suspects hearing weird. We'll see what we 362 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 2: can learn. 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Well, 374 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:00,399 Speaker 2: there's a story we haven't returned to for quite some 375 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 2: time because the last time we talked about it, we 376 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 2: knew that most things involving court appearances and such as 377 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 2: being kicked to June and that is the stabbing deaths 378 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:12,879 Speaker 2: of the four University of Idaho students that occurred last November. 379 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 2: The man that was eventually arrested for these murders is 380 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 2: a guy by the name of Brian Coburger. And we're 381 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 2: back in the news today because of one of the 382 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 2: surviving roommates. There was more than just the three girls 383 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 2: that lived in that house. There was a couple of 384 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:31,640 Speaker 2: other women that lived there as well, and obviously they 385 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 2: may be key in making the case four or against 386 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 2: Brian Coburger, but one of them, apparently it does not 387 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:42,919 Speaker 2: want to appear at the hearings coming up for Coburger. 388 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:46,399 Speaker 2: We'll see if we can find out more from Alex 389 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 2: Tony ABC News for KFI. 390 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:51,159 Speaker 1: Any say her name Bethany Funk or Funky, you know 391 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,399 Speaker 1: either one. I don't know. I think it may be Funk, 392 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 1: but yeah. The issue for her is that these are 393 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:04,639 Speaker 1: his attorneys wanting her to appear to testify for him, 394 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:08,919 Speaker 1: to try to exonerate him, and her attorneys are saying no, 395 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:12,359 Speaker 1: that first of all, they don't believe that Idaho has 396 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 1: the legal authority to order somebody who's in Nevada, she 397 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 1: lives in Nevada to go to Idaho for preliminary hearing, 398 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 1: and that she doesn't have anything to say. Did They 399 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:25,680 Speaker 1: say that she's told police what she saw a guy 400 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 1: with bushy eyebrows coming out of the murder ay of 401 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 1: the home mask on and then went out the sliding 402 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 1: glass door. That they don't think there's anything there. So 403 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:39,399 Speaker 1: what his attorneys appear to be doing that they claim 404 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 1: that she's got some testimony, some information that would exonerate 405 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 1: him going into the preliminary hearing, that hearing where the 406 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 1: court has to decide he is there enough evidence to 407 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:53,399 Speaker 1: move on with the trial. Defense attorneys are going to 408 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 1: try to say there is not look, they got the 409 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:58,879 Speaker 1: wrong guy, despite the DNA evidence. It was on the 410 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 1: sheath of that knife that was at the murder scene, 411 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 1: his DNA, his car driving around the murder scene on 412 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 1: surveillance video, his phone coming and going around that time, 413 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:13,719 Speaker 1: being turned off right around the murder scene, but then 414 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 1: popping right back on. But his attorneys claim she knows something. 415 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 1: And then we touch shot A. Lloyd the Cochrane firm 416 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:22,360 Speaker 1: not involved in this. But she says, here's what I means. 417 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 1: Defense believes that she is information that would directly contradict 418 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:30,120 Speaker 1: his being the person who they believe at the scene 419 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 1: of the crime. So his attorneys are claiming she has 420 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 1: a material witness could provide the info that would clear 421 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:38,639 Speaker 1: him and that would make it clear that he didn't 422 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:42,440 Speaker 1: do it. She was on the first floor, awake, told 423 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 1: police that she heared crying and then looked out and 424 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 1: saw the guy with the bushy eyebrows walking down the hallway. 425 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:51,959 Speaker 1: But a lot we don't know. There is a wait. 426 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 1: They make it sound like she's an alibi. Is this 427 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,880 Speaker 1: a fake story? The defense is putting out to try 428 00:23:56,920 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 1: to muney, raise doubts, muddy up the jury. You know, 429 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:04,360 Speaker 1: it's a good question. I don't know. They seem very 430 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:06,639 Speaker 1: serious in they're filing that they want her on the 431 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:08,919 Speaker 1: witness stand. They had to pretend to be you know, 432 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 1: her attorney is going, well, no, that's not where she 433 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 1: needs to be at a prelimb. They don't want it 434 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 1: to be a circus and a mini trial, even though 435 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 1: that's what a proliminary hearing kind of is. The gag 436 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 1: order Today, about an hour and a half ago, the 437 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 1: Supreme Court i in Idaho ruled against thirty members of 438 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,919 Speaker 1: the media wanting that gag order lifted, and the Supreme 439 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 1: Court said, no, of the state that this is such 440 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 1: a high profile case they don't want to ruin the case, 441 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 1: that they don't want anybody giving details. So we still 442 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 1: don't know a lot about what else she has said 443 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 1: and what they want in order to get her subpoena 444 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:47,200 Speaker 1: and a potentially extra died from Nevada to Idaho. Wouldn't 445 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,359 Speaker 1: the defense have to make the case to the judge 446 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 1: that she had relevant testimony that would exonerate Coburger and 447 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 1: they would have to explain in advance what that is. Well, 448 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 1: they would at least need to make the claim that 449 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 1: they've got something, even I don't know under Idaho law 450 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 1: how much they would have to lay out. But the 451 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:08,639 Speaker 1: argument against it is that she is going her attorneys 452 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:12,640 Speaker 1: are going to a judge in Nevada, in Washall County, Nevada, 453 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,359 Speaker 1: to say you can't do this. You know, it doesn't 454 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 1: matter what the merits of the subpoena, what those merits are. 455 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,680 Speaker 1: That it is a situation of you cannot force somebody 456 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:29,360 Speaker 1: in Nevada to move themselves. She's not going to be extradited, 457 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 1: but to move herself to Idaho for this preliminary hearing 458 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 1: isn't She's going to have to testify in the real trial. 459 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 1: She may, I mean, you would expect that she would 460 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 1: and that she would cooperate and whatnot. But they're saying 461 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:44,719 Speaker 1: at this point that her testimony is not critical, that 462 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,160 Speaker 1: she doesn't have anything to say anyway. So they want 463 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 1: the Nevada judge, not on the merits of whatever there 464 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,679 Speaker 1: arguing in Idaho, they want the Nevada judge to say no, 465 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:56,200 Speaker 1: that they can't do it. Seeing what he looks like now, 466 00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 1: because it was dark and he was wearing a mask. 467 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:03,160 Speaker 1: She doesn't have any definitive ID to put on that figure. No, 468 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 1: I mean, we don't think based on what we know, 469 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 1: except that it was a male who was about his 470 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:13,199 Speaker 1: build with bushy eyebrows that he does have with a 471 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 1: mask on, so she couldn't see a lot of the face. 472 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 1: It was dark. We have to assume, and this may 473 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 1: be what they want to bring in the question that 474 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:26,360 Speaker 1: alcohol was probably involved that night, other things, potentially after 475 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:28,959 Speaker 1: a night of partying, and maybe they want to bring up, 476 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:32,639 Speaker 1: you know, hey, questionable her description that maybe it's not 477 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:36,399 Speaker 1: this guy or as has been talked about, that it 478 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 1: is a party house and a lot is coming into 479 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 1: the house. It would be DNA that his DNA could 480 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 1: be in there for any number of reasons they want. 481 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:47,920 Speaker 1: We don't know. Ye the other surviving there as well. 482 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:49,640 Speaker 1: I think there'd be one reason. 483 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 2: The other surviving whom made Dylan Mortonson. Though they're not 484 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:54,640 Speaker 2: bringing up any issues with. 485 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:57,200 Speaker 1: Her, No, they haven't indicated that they want to talk 486 00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 1: to her. She doesn't seem to have had a lot 487 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 1: of it to give police that this was the roommate 488 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:06,359 Speaker 1: that had that description of the guy walking down the 489 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 1: hallway and at least his attorneys are claiming that she 490 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 1: knows more and that she could go beyond that and 491 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 1: help them out. But her side doesn't seem willing and 492 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 1: wanting to do that at all. So was Bethidy the 493 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 1: one that went back in the room and just locked 494 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:24,679 Speaker 1: the door and went back and well, they both eventually 495 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 1: did that. I remember there was an eight hour time 496 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 1: period where we still don't know what went on, from 497 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 1: when they knew something was going on to calling friends 498 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 1: over and then with friends calling police at around noon. 499 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 1: This was around four in the morning when it went down, 500 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,880 Speaker 1: and then at around noon, but police have said they 501 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:46,400 Speaker 1: were not involved at all. They were apparently scared, went 502 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 1: back to their rooms, locked themselves in again. They had 503 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:52,160 Speaker 1: been out partying all night. We don't know what their 504 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,920 Speaker 1: state of mind was. Did they go to sleep. Were 505 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:58,639 Speaker 1: they sitting there in terror for eight hours before they 506 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:01,400 Speaker 1: called over friends to say something went down, get over here, 507 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 1: and then called police. All of that not clear in 508 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 1: the affidavit. It's all covered under the gag order, so 509 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,399 Speaker 1: we don't know it. At trial, you would expect that 510 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:12,640 Speaker 1: to come out. What did the friends do? What were 511 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 1: they doing during those eight hours? Were they asleep the 512 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 1: whole time. We don't know, No, I mean eight hours sleeping, 513 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 1: I mean after witnessing through. But they did. You just 514 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:28,400 Speaker 1: had a quadruple murder happen next door. But they comprehend 515 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 1: what was going on in that moment? What was the 516 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 1: state of mind if the party. 517 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 2: House they may have thought it was just a guy 518 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,159 Speaker 2: that came up to sleep with one of the other women, 519 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 2: a lot of drinking going on. But I thought it 520 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 2: was a part that always made never made sense to 521 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 2: me that supposedly there was a lot of blood and 522 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 2: when they got. 523 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 1: Up, a lot of blood according to all over the 524 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 1: place or anything. Yeah, but but what were they able 525 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 1: to see it at nighttime and then or did they think, well, 526 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 1: nothing had gone on and they went to bed, and 527 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 1: then they woke up and saw that and that's when 528 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 1: they freaked out and called the friends. That's not clear, 529 00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 1: all right, Thank you very much, Alex, appreciate it. 530 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 2: You got to Alex Stone ABC News for KFI about 531 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 2: the continued weird developments in the Idaho college student murders. 532 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 2: And we've talked about this before. I really have no 533 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 2: doubt that Coburger is the killer. No, no, I don't 534 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 2: but I just some of the behaviors as we were 535 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 2: just talking about the and again they're college students who 536 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 2: may have had quite the night of partying, drinking, and 537 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 2: we're in a haze, right in a fog. And uh, 538 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 2: you know, you see a strange guy walking to the 539 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,239 Speaker 2: hallway at like four in the morning, you may not 540 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 2: think anything of it, even though it was creepy, But 541 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 2: then you know, you lock yourself in your room and 542 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 2: it's hours later, like I think it was eleven am 543 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 2: or noon before somebody called police to take a look 544 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 2: at what happened. 545 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 1: And but but but there's blood. You know, these Coburger attorneys, 546 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 1: they're they're Satan spawn trying to say that this girl 547 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 1: has some evidence that exonerate Coburger. But you know, it 548 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:53,720 Speaker 1: really gat that got me to click, Hey, yeah, I 549 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 1: don't DNA. That's a end of case. You know, it's 550 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 1: like the OJ case d And maybe she had a 551 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 1: relationship with Coburger and she's in on this. Oh sure, 552 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 1: we could all do a creative master right and right 553 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:14,960 Speaker 1: and all right, we got more coming up after three o'clock. 554 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 2: Please be listening for this because we promised you an 555 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 2: update on this and we can probably get a lot more. 556 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 2: From John Coopaul with Howard Jarvis Taxpayer's Association. This idea 557 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 2: that in the future, your electricity bill may be more 558 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 2: based on your income than your usage. 559 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 1: This is a stunner. Is taking us down the socialist 560 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 1: communist road like never before. This is straight out of Moscow. 561 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 2: All right, what you can afford to pay not a 562 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 2: mouch electricity you use Johnny kenkf I AM six forty 563 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 2: live everywhere the iHeartRadio app. 564 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:49,720 Speaker 6: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI 565 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 6: AM six forty. 566 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 1: Coming up after the news at three o'clock. 567 00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 2: John Coupole from the Harvard Jervis Howard Jarvis Taxpayer's Association. 568 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 2: We'll explain what's going on with this proposal that your 569 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,720 Speaker 2: electricity bill will largely be based on not how much 570 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:10,480 Speaker 2: you use, but how much income you make. It's really bizarre. 571 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 2: There's this fixed fee they have on the bill, which 572 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 2: you're going to target to people's income level. 573 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 1: Basically, they're taxing wealthy people to pay poor people's electricity bills. Yep, 574 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 1: this is a backdoor tax that would never pass in 575 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:28,240 Speaker 1: the legislature. They weren't risk trying this in the legislature, 576 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 1: and what they did in Sacramento is one of these 577 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 1: stupid budget trailer bills that open the door for this. 578 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 1: He can explain that, and he usually does a good 579 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 1: job explaining it in simple ways we can all understand 580 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 1: because they have these horrible maneuvers they pull in Sacramento 581 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 1: with these trailer bills. But his point will be, no 582 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,320 Speaker 1: one paid any attention to this, and now it's rearing 583 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 1: its ugly head. And this proposal to your electricity bill 584 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 1: will be broken up into a fixed fee which will 585 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 1: based on how much money you make, and then another 586 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 1: part which is based on your consumption. 587 00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 2: So we'll talk to John about this. There'll be another 588 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 2: on on the show. Well it's John Cobelt, but John 589 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:04,960 Speaker 2: hat Tommy is coming on the show next hour too, 590 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 2: the deputy district attorney for Los Angeles County. 591 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 1: We'll talk to us today. 592 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 2: The mother and live in boyfriend of Anthony Avolo's got 593 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,960 Speaker 2: their sentence today. John was the lead prosecutor in the case. 594 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:20,720 Speaker 2: He's also running for George Gascon's job. He'll talk to 595 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 2: us after three point thirty. But these two got life 596 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 2: in prison without parole, something that we find hard to 597 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 2: believe is going to happen because of the way California 598 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 2: is moving to releasing everybody from prison, doesn't matter if 599 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 2: you're a murderer. That's really the goal. They're just starting 600 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 2: with the older prisoners first. But we'll talk to John 601 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:44,840 Speaker 2: hat Tommy also in the busy three o'clock hour. Well, 602 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 2: now we present this story from the Bizarro Files. Last August, 603 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:53,920 Speaker 2: Marilyn Jones and her husband Robert set out from Fort Lauderdale, Florida. 604 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 2: They were taken an eight day Caribbean cruise aboard the 605 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 2: celebrity cruise ship Equinox. They were two days into the 606 00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 2: trip when Robert seventy nine, died of a heart attack. 607 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 2: So Lebry cruzs said, well, you got two options, miss Jones, 608 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 2: Maryland the wife, and this is according to their federal lawsuit. 609 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 2: You can leave with your husband's body in San Juan, 610 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 2: Puerto Rico. You can agree to have it stored in 611 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 2: the ship's morgue until we get back to Florida in 612 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 2: six days. She opted to remain on the ship. Although 613 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 2: I can't imagine that would be a pleasant trip after 614 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:32,040 Speaker 2: your husband dies. I mean, this is really a nightmare. 615 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 2: But the choices were. 616 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 1: Probably it was complicated to stay in Puerto Rico with 617 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 1: his body because then she'd have to have it flown 618 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,760 Speaker 1: back to Yes, she'd have to First of all, the 619 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 1: corner in San Juan would take possession of the body, 620 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 1: they would do an autopsy, then they would send it 621 00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:51,480 Speaker 1: to a funeral home. She'd have to stay in Puerto Rico, 622 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:53,960 Speaker 1: and then she'd have to make arrangements on her own 623 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:58,040 Speaker 1: to get it and herself back to Florida. So it 624 00:33:58,080 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 1: was to go through all that. 625 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:01,720 Speaker 2: Just stay on the cruise till it's over and the 626 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 2: ship returns to Florida. 627 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,880 Speaker 1: You know, he's on ice, he's frozen downstairs. What the hell? 628 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:08,319 Speaker 1: But I mean there might be some. 629 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:11,560 Speaker 2: Other you would tried to be too gross, but you know, 630 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:13,839 Speaker 2: you show up at the dinners on the cruise ship. 631 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:17,840 Speaker 1: How's your husband doing? I mean, it's just he stayed. 632 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:19,160 Speaker 1: He stayed back at the room. 633 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:23,640 Speaker 2: I imagine she well, here's what happened. She opted to 634 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:26,520 Speaker 2: remain with the ship, putting her husband's body into the 635 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:31,439 Speaker 2: ship's morgue. Did anybody guess what happened when the ship 636 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:34,400 Speaker 2: returned to Florida. A funeral homeworker and a sheriff's deputy 637 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:38,319 Speaker 2: came aboard to retrieve the body, and they discovered that 638 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:41,760 Speaker 2: had been moved from the morgue to a cooler. 639 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 1: On a different floor. It was, according to the lawsuit, 640 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 1: horrifically decomposed because the temperature was not sufficient. The body 641 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:58,319 Speaker 1: had expanded with gas and his skin had turned green. Oh, 642 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:02,799 Speaker 1: the cooler was supposed to be for soda, not dead. 643 00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:07,360 Speaker 1: People who did that? Was the morgue full? Have you 644 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,040 Speaker 1: been on a cruise? I have never been on a cruise. 645 00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:14,480 Speaker 1: You have, Yeah, a few of them went and visited 646 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:19,759 Speaker 1: the morgue. No, there's some questionable employees on these cruises. Really. Yeah, 647 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,839 Speaker 1: they spend they spend months and months at sea, and 648 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,759 Speaker 1: they send money back to their families. And most of 649 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 1: them are foreigners from all over the world, very very poor. Uh, 650 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,160 Speaker 1: none of them trained and had to handle a dead 651 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,960 Speaker 1: body to that I could see. To them, it's like, well, 652 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:39,960 Speaker 1: we could put them in this freezer, or we could 653 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:41,120 Speaker 1: put them in the cooler here. 654 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:46,720 Speaker 2: And all cruise ships are required to have for most 655 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,640 Speaker 2: a morg on board because deaths are not uncommon, particularly 656 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:54,280 Speaker 2: the elderly love cruises, so you got to be prepared 657 00:35:54,360 --> 00:36:00,600 Speaker 2: for this possibility. Ah, there's no explanation here yet because 658 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:03,280 Speaker 2: this is just a new lawsuit from Celebrity Cruises. Why 659 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:06,080 Speaker 2: somebody would move the body from the ship's morgue to 660 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:06,880 Speaker 2: the ship's cooler. 661 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:12,279 Speaker 1: I'm just thinking it's dun dunk cluck employees. Maybe maybe 662 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:13,040 Speaker 1: how dumb. 663 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,080 Speaker 2: Do you have to be it's a dead body not 664 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,920 Speaker 2: to keep it in a cold place. Well, I guess 665 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,640 Speaker 2: he'll be okay where the sodas go. The cooler was 666 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,000 Speaker 2: cold enough, I know. 667 00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,080 Speaker 1: But did they need the space and the morgue that 668 00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:26,719 Speaker 1: they had to move them? I don't know. Was there 669 00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:28,520 Speaker 1: something they had in there that they thought was more 670 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:31,480 Speaker 1: important and there was a frozen ice cream shipment that 671 00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:36,040 Speaker 1: came in and they were out a room, it says. 672 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:39,240 Speaker 2: The lawyer says, they have an obligation to maintain the morgo. 673 00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:42,120 Speaker 2: Maybe something was wrong with the ship's morgue that it 674 00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:45,560 Speaker 2: wasn't working. Yeah, it says if they if they did 675 00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,480 Speaker 2: not have a working morgue, she would have chosen to 676 00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:50,760 Speaker 2: take her husband's body off the ship to Puerto Rico. 677 00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,839 Speaker 2: But they probably just a short Sure, it's it's mid 678 00:36:54,880 --> 00:37:00,000 Speaker 2: double digitiqs here, they well, but what about the supervisors. 679 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:05,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, if they knew there wasn't a working morg it 680 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,560 Speaker 1: doesn't matter how dumb the subordinates are. They should have 681 00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:10,799 Speaker 1: told her, well, we don't really have a morg right now. 682 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:14,839 Speaker 1: That I just think a couple of dumb clocks moved 683 00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,080 Speaker 1: him because they didn't think there's a difference between the 684 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:24,400 Speaker 1: beverage schooler and the morgue. That's all, well tell you. 685 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:27,600 Speaker 1: Once you die, things go bad quickly. Huh. Imagine your 686 00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:31,160 Speaker 1: body expands with gas. That's why they drain all the 687 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:35,040 Speaker 1: blood out of you and inject formaldehyde for the for 688 00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:38,720 Speaker 1: the viewing for the show. The funeral employee. The funeral 689 00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:41,760 Speaker 1: home employee saw drinks placed outside of the ice box 690 00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:46,440 Speaker 1: turned mortuary, so they didn't have room for the drinks anymore, 691 00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:48,600 Speaker 1: so they put them in the hallway or something because 692 00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:51,480 Speaker 1: they had his body in there. I imagine this was 693 00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:54,000 Speaker 1: a small space. I don't know. I just wonder what 694 00:37:54,440 --> 00:38:00,719 Speaker 1: if they put something in the morg freezer. Ah that 695 00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:03,640 Speaker 1: decided the body had to be reassigned. 696 00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:05,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, and they really talked her into doing this too, 697 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:09,080 Speaker 2: because they said, if you remove the body in Puerto Rico, 698 00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:11,600 Speaker 2: there's no guarantee that will end up in Florida. There's 699 00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:14,399 Speaker 2: only like a fifty to fifty chance, so they were 700 00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:16,840 Speaker 2: kind of aggressive with her and trying to you know, 701 00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:19,359 Speaker 2: when you turn towards taking the ships more. 702 00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:24,279 Speaker 1: Nearly all the ships that that work primarily out in 703 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:30,800 Speaker 1: the United States, they're registered to odd ball countries. Yes, Malta, Malta, 704 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:33,400 Speaker 1: which is an island nation in the Mediterranean. Is that 705 00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:36,800 Speaker 1: because there's no rules, Yes, because there's no rules? And 706 00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,920 Speaker 1: what they read a story on this a few years ago. 707 00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:45,280 Speaker 1: There's a lot of a lot of really horny ship 708 00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:48,320 Speaker 1: employees who haven't been with their girlfriends and wives in 709 00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,239 Speaker 1: a long time because they go away for months. I've 710 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:52,880 Speaker 1: talked to a few of these guys, and you know, 711 00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:55,839 Speaker 1: they're there for many months, and they send money back 712 00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:57,640 Speaker 1: to the family. I haven't seen the family in a while. 713 00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:00,879 Speaker 1: And then they see somebody attractive one of the passengers, 714 00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:05,480 Speaker 1: and you know, bad things happen, right, but you can't 715 00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:09,200 Speaker 1: there's no jurisdiction to charge them with any crimes. I mean, 716 00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:11,719 Speaker 1: some of these guys end up raping the passengers. And 717 00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:15,239 Speaker 1: then you go to the cruise ship management they look 718 00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:18,200 Speaker 1: at you and shrug, and you can go to local 719 00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:20,760 Speaker 1: police and a doc and they shrug because that happened 720 00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:24,960 Speaker 1: out and see there's no laws out there. Oh, this 721 00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:27,160 Speaker 1: is totally unrelated to that. But while we have a moment, 722 00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,960 Speaker 1: because we talked about this yesterday at this time, remember 723 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,560 Speaker 1: the story in Texas with the cow's tongues were removed, Yes, 724 00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:34,800 Speaker 1: and their anuses, and they're trying to figure out what happened. 725 00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:39,520 Speaker 2: I mentioned cow tipping. Apparently that's an urban legend. So 726 00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,480 Speaker 2: really yeah, yeah, a few people sent me links. That's 727 00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:43,160 Speaker 2: our fraternity. 728 00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:46,680 Speaker 1: Guys do that? Really? Many believe it's not even physically possible. 729 00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:49,880 Speaker 1: You can't really do it. So one lister chastised us 730 00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:51,319 Speaker 1: for a believing it. And I guess you could call 731 00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:54,279 Speaker 1: it a rural a rural legend. Well, guys should know better. 732 00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:56,520 Speaker 1: I never did it. I just said I heard about it. 733 00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,960 Speaker 1: When anything like we committed a crime, well I used 734 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:03,080 Speaker 1: spread count. Now use the term. You should be smarter 735 00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:06,239 Speaker 1: than this. Yeah. No, I think I think cows have 736 00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:09,600 Speaker 1: been tipped. I don't know. Apparently there's no real evidence 737 00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:12,319 Speaker 1: of it. There was a Moistline call about it too 738 00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:16,200 Speaker 1: yesterday saying the same thing, probably the same person. This 739 00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:19,000 Speaker 1: is what works people up all the John stuff we 740 00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:22,640 Speaker 1: do doesn't get any response. This is what When people 741 00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:25,560 Speaker 1: agree with you, they tend not to contact you because 742 00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:28,120 Speaker 1: they're this, you know. But when they did they disagree, 743 00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,360 Speaker 1: that's when they tend to want to let you know. 744 00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:34,520 Speaker 2: All right, Coming up next, John Coupol, Howard Jarvis Taxpayers Association, 745 00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:38,560 Speaker 2: we'll explain better what's really going on with the possibility 746 00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:41,960 Speaker 2: that your electricity bill could largely or at least half, 747 00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:44,719 Speaker 2: be based on how much money you make. 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