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Speaker 1: Hunday Texans Radio Studio inside NRG Stadium, and we've got

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Speaker 1: a big program for you tonight, extra large because we

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Speaker 1: have assistant coaches to hear from. We have to talk

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Speaker 1: about OTAs today. We've got a lot to get to.

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Speaker 1: Mark Vandermayer and John Harris with you. You'll hear from

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Speaker 1: Romeo Crennell in just a few moments here, the team's

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Speaker 1: defensive coordinator, a guy who's been around the NFL since

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Speaker 1: the beginning of time. Also, Danny Barrett coaches running backs,

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Speaker 1: used to play quarterback, played in the CFL. Really interesting guy.

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Speaker 1: You want to hear what he has to say about

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Speaker 1: these backs and about coaching in this league. And we'll

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Speaker 1: have our OTA review as well, including a player that

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Speaker 1: really caught my eye today, Johnny. We have a lot

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Speaker 1: I did my normal training camp thing. I went off

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Speaker 1: worst kept secret for OTA's training camp regular season practice

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Speaker 1: is the media just congregates. Because that's why we have

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Speaker 1: because we talked all we can do and you just

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Speaker 1: I was mister anti's antisocial today. Now I like it

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Speaker 1: when you are only because when you're a mister antisocial,

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Speaker 1: you get great notes you have and you're gonna get

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Speaker 1: us fed with knowledge. And that's coming up in a

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Speaker 1: little bit here. But first let's get to the man

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Speaker 1: that coaches the defensive side of the football. One of

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Speaker 1: the very best to ever do it as an assistant coach.

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Speaker 1: He's been a head coach too, Hey, Romeo Crennell won

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Speaker 1: more games with the new Cleveland Browns they came back

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Speaker 1: into the league in nineteen ninety nine then any other

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Speaker 1: head coach. He went ten and six in two thousand

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Speaker 1: these things. How the coach will spend their time recharging

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Speaker 1: the batteries. I try to recharge like everybody else, guys,

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Speaker 1: but my wife usually takes charge for me. It's the

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Speaker 1: same everybody exactly. The boss. Yeah, And so I go

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Speaker 1: where the ball scales made to go. U Sometimes we

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Speaker 1: I want to. But but it all, it's all good. Coach,

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Speaker 1: when you've been calling defense in the league for a

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Speaker 1: while and you obviously have a system that works. We've

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Speaker 1: seen it work. We've seen it work in different places,

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Speaker 1: Are you still you still think that way? Or do

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Speaker 1: What are you focusing on? Well, we have to have communication.

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Speaker 1: That's a big part of our system, and guys have

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Speaker 1: You've coached a long time, Like Johnny said, we've established

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Speaker 1: and I understand that and appreciate that, and the game

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Speaker 1: But you get used to it and and you go

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Speaker 1: with it because you know that it's not changing. Right. Well,

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Speaker 1: no more double days. That's just the most important thing.

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Speaker 1: very quickly Texas Tech. You were there, What was it

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Speaker 1: like being on that staff? And it was a long

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Speaker 1: good up there. I've known that had to help you.

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Speaker 1: Having that experience playing and coaching without a doubt, you know,

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Speaker 1: I went from playing the coaching the very next year.

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Speaker 1: But again we go back to the first question that

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Speaker 1: we talked about. As far as being at the quarterback position,

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Speaker 1: you really are an extension of the coaching style. So

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Speaker 1: the amount of time that you put in the game

434
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Speaker 1: and your preparation it carries over. So now you got

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Speaker 1: to be able just to teach the other guy. So

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Speaker 1: that experience play, you know, heavily into my coaching career

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Speaker 1: still to this day. And you know, go CFL. You

438
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Speaker 1: know they're on their way now. Preseason has already gotten started.

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Speaker 1: It's only two preseason games. On reading about Dale wants

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Speaker 1: to go to two preseason games in the NFL. Who

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Speaker 1: knows what had happened, right, Who knows? But I know

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Speaker 1: after two preseason game rookis don't get allowed opportunities to

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Speaker 1: what they can do. Thank you as well. Danny Barrett,

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Speaker 1: running backs coach for the Houston Texans, and uh Andre

445
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Speaker 1: knows him pretty well. They have CFL commonality, So that's

446
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Speaker 1: pretty cool, Johnny. Do people take Lamar Miller for granted?

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Speaker 1: I think so. I don't think there's any question. I

448
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Speaker 1: think Lamar is one of the more underrated backs in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. Look. I understand that he's not Ezekiel Elliott

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Speaker 1: or he's not sick Quon Barkley. I understand that, but reliable, dependable, productive.

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Speaker 1: He was a guy that there were games last year

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Speaker 1: offense kind of slow to get going, and Lamar would

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Speaker 1: pick up three yards, four yards and you get a

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Speaker 1: seven yard run. He'd have a drive where it would

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Speaker 1: be pretty much him and then maybe de Sean would

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Speaker 1: finish it with a touchdown throw to Hop or something

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Speaker 1: like that. I think Lamar is absolutely taken for granted

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Speaker 1: like that, he's never gonna be considered sae Quan or

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Speaker 1: you seek La, He's not in that caliber. But Lamar

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Speaker 1: to me is he's steady. He's a guy that I

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Speaker 1: want to have on the field. And look, last year

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Speaker 1: he showed and he's shown this before, the ability to

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Speaker 1: hit the home run. You give him a seam boom

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Speaker 1: see it. And I think he's got great vision in

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Speaker 1: the zone game. I think his ability last year it

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Speaker 1: really it really kind of showed itself. His patience, especially

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Speaker 1: in the zone game, like do I stay front side

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Speaker 1: to the play side, is the whole gonna be there?

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Speaker 1: Is it gonna developed? I need to be patient with this?

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Speaker 1: Or am I seeing the seam on the cut up

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Speaker 1: right basically back where the center would be and you

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Speaker 1: take those three steps and then it's like, okay, do

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Speaker 1: I cut this thing right up where the center is?

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Speaker 1: Do I have to cut it all the way back?

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Speaker 1: He got a really good feel for that, I felt

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Speaker 1: like last year and you started to see it really

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Speaker 1: turn into some big gains for him in big games

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Speaker 1: for him, And when he was out, we felt it.

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Speaker 1: We felt him being out. I mean that Dallas game,

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Speaker 1: Alfred Blewett. I think eight catches in that game. But

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Speaker 1: if we have Lamar in that game, there's no telling.

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Speaker 1: And it's funny because Nathan and I Nathan from our

483
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Speaker 1: PR department, we were talking about it. We were talking

484
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Speaker 1: about there were only really two games where qt, Fuller

485
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Speaker 1: and Hopkins all played together. Half of Indie Weeks four, Oh,

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Speaker 1: then Buffalo I forgot Buffalo Buffalo for a game, and

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Speaker 1: then Dallas for a full game, so two and a

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Speaker 1: half and then half of jacksonvill So it's three games. Sorry,

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Speaker 1: So it's three games. That was it, And it got

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Speaker 1: me thinking we were talking about the Dallas game. It

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Speaker 1: was like, we moved the ball up down the field

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Speaker 1: against Dallas. We did that without Lamar, right, if we'd

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Speaker 1: had Lamar in there. I mean, thanks are different, very

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Speaker 1: different because of what he's able to do. I think

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Speaker 1: he is absolutely a question take it for granted. I

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Speaker 1: think he has been productive since he's been here. I

497
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Speaker 1: think people looking around the league and they see Ezek

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Speaker 1: Elliott and they see se Quon Barkley and they're like,

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Speaker 1: I want that guy. Who doesn't want that guy? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: who doesn't want that? But the guy you got is

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Speaker 1: good and you have some upside here with Deante Foreman

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Speaker 1: in year three, coming back healthy, like the coach said,

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Speaker 1: And how about some other things. Names you know at

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Speaker 1: OTA's today, and let's go back to the running back position.

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Speaker 1: Names you might not know. We'll get it to that next.

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Speaker 1: On Texans Radio, Rocking and Rolling here in the Hunday

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Speaker 1: Texans Radio Studio, Mark Vandermyer, John Harris with you as

508
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:28,200
Speaker 1: we talk OTAs. We had Romeo Cornell on the show today,

509
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Speaker 1: Danny Barrett again. If you miss any part of this,

510
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Speaker 1: it gets podcast podcast dead on Houston Texans dot com

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Speaker 1: or iTunes or wherever fine podcasts are available. Now Johnny,

512
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Speaker 1: we saw some OTA action today in the practice bubble

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Speaker 1: at the Houston Methodist Training Center. Kind of felt like

514
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Speaker 1: summer outside, so maybe that is something to do with it,

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Speaker 1: you know, just get the guys inside. You don't have

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Speaker 1: to kill him right now or anytime for that matter,

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Speaker 1: but it was very cool to see some of the

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Speaker 1: action and just to pick up on the conversation we

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Speaker 1: had with Danny Barrett. When you talk about running backs,

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Speaker 1: we talked about Lamar Miller a bunch in the last

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Speaker 1: segment Deantey Foreman, he mentioned him and how this year

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Speaker 1: is a big year. How he looks really good this year,

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Speaker 1: coming back from the year in which he was trying

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Speaker 1: to come back, and he hit the ground running with

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Speaker 1: the offseason conditioning program starting up eight weeks ago. That's

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Speaker 1: great stuff. So we'll get it to him a little

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Speaker 1: bit maybe. But some of the other guys, you know

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Speaker 1: a lot of people. We talked to Taiwan Jones, you

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Speaker 1: and I, we talked to Josh Ferguson. These are running

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Speaker 1: backs that are on this roster. They're free agents. They

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Speaker 1: have some experience in this league. You also have undrafted

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Speaker 1: free agents, but those guys are getting some reps here

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Speaker 1: and I think they want to be heard from. They

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Speaker 1: want to make a statement here. It's gonna be interesting

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Speaker 1: to see how this running back depth charge shakes out

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Speaker 1: as you get closer to September. It is certainly opportunity

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Speaker 1: there to be had. Ye no drafted running back, and

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Speaker 1: then they brought in to Mario Crockett and they signed

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Speaker 1: Kuran Higden as well, So they've got those two and

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Speaker 1: we haven't seen Higden yet, but Crockett has been out

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Speaker 1: there a bigger back, so there's opportunity to be had

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Speaker 1: in training camp. You're not gonna grind Lamar Miller too,

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Speaker 1: you know, into dust. Yeah, but you've got to make

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Speaker 1: sure he gets ready. You got to make sure that

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Speaker 1: deantay Foreman gets ready. But you can't have every single

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Speaker 1: rep going to those two. So there's gonna be an

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Speaker 1: opportunity for those guys. I'm really excited about Crockett. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I've people have heard me talk about Crockett for a while.

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Speaker 1: I just I love I loved him as a freshman

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Speaker 1: at MISSOO, and had he stayed healthy, I don't know

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Speaker 1: that we would have an opportunity to get him. So

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Speaker 1: I'm really excited to see what he's gonna do. Well, Mark,

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Speaker 1: he brought up deantey Foreman and it's a passing camp.

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Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien tells us that all the time. You know,

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Speaker 1: a ta's a mini camp. He tells us that all

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Speaker 1: the time. But to keep the defense honest when they're

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Speaker 1: doing some things, they'll throw a run in there every

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Speaker 1: now and again. And when I was down in my

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Speaker 1: little one person habitat, I was watching and I had

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Speaker 1: a good view on a play where they ran the

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Speaker 1: ball with deantay Foreman, And I'm telling you. At first,

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Speaker 1: I didn't think it was him. I could just see

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Speaker 1: a helmet moving through bodies and moving through very quickly.

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Speaker 1: And then he shot through the gap and got through

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Speaker 1: and I was like, whoa, who is that's Deante. I

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Speaker 1: saw a burst that I have not seen from him

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Speaker 1: maybe ever. He got through a gap and Mark, I'm tony.

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Speaker 1: Just he shot through it. It was not like I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna be patient kind of work my way through. It

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Speaker 1: was he saw a whole and bank. Now granted, Deante

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Speaker 1: Foreman is not soft. He takes a lot of hits

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Speaker 1: and he delivers a lot of hits. He's not soft.

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Speaker 1: He's not guys don't have pads on so they're not

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Speaker 1: coming a million miles an hour. But I love seeing

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Speaker 1: a running back that sees it and hits the gas

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Speaker 1: and goes. And that is what I saw from him

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Speaker 1: today on one of those runs, and I just went

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Speaker 1: that's Deante. He popped out and I saw twenty seven.

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Speaker 1: I was like, I come to myself kind of like

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Speaker 1: all right, I like this, that's what we have to

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Speaker 1: be able to see from him. That if if Lamar's

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Speaker 1: getting a break, and that's where we get from Yonta

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Speaker 1: that's what we need to see because that keeps Lamar fresh.

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Speaker 1: Lamar keeps Yanta fresh, and then they're hitting with a

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Speaker 1: one two punch. If they're doing that, this offense has

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Speaker 1: to be better. It has to be better to have

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Speaker 1: a guy of Foreman's athletic ability with the right mindset

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Speaker 1: going forward into twenty nineteen. I just I can't see

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Speaker 1: how this offense we'll take steps back, if not take

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Speaker 1: gargantuan steps forward. But that's the kind of thing that

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Speaker 1: has to happen for it to be the case. I

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Speaker 1: think they have a lot of options. We'll get into

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Speaker 1: receivers in a moment. You mentioned though, how spry Foreman looks.

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Speaker 1: That's great to see at this time of year. Gotta

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Speaker 1: keep that going. Look, I think Ferguson looks like yeah,

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Speaker 1: like I said, he wants to be heard from Taiwan Jones.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned some of the rookies, and I look at

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Speaker 1: the running back position now, Johnny, and you know, we

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Speaker 1: have always talked about, Hey, you gotta know pass protection.

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Speaker 1: It's not just about running the football, folks. It's really

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Speaker 1: not just about running the football. You got to catch

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Speaker 1: the ball out of the backfield, and it's not just oh,

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Speaker 1: I'm running these three plays. You got to know that playbook.

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Speaker 1: The amount of work to get up to speed for

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Speaker 1: these guys. Look, you could probably get away with a

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Speaker 1: few more things if you're in there just to pound

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Speaker 1: the ball. But it's the NFL in twenty nineteen. You're

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Speaker 1: not doing that anymore. You know, you're really not playing

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Speaker 1: the game the way you were. Did you see Spencer

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Speaker 1: Tillman's tweet? It was pretty good. He talked about, Hey,

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Speaker 1: we used to play the game sometimes in a phone booth,

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Speaker 1: and you know, he was tweeting out highlights. I think

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Speaker 1: it was Oklahoma versus maybe Texas. I didn't watch it

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Speaker 1: too closely, but he said, I love to spread offense,

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Speaker 1: but sometimes you had to play the game like this,

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Speaker 1: and sometimes you still do. And yeah, sometimes you still do.

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Speaker 1: But the game, to his point, is wide open right

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Speaker 1: now compared to what it was twenty five, thirty forty

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Speaker 1: years ago. So these guys have to get up to

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Speaker 1: speed so quickly in all phases of that passing and

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Speaker 1: running game in order to be on the field with

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Speaker 1: any kind of consistency as a running back. Now wide

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Speaker 1: receivers Vincent Smith, Hello, year two, I like it. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna hear from John Perry this week. It's it's looking good.

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Speaker 1: And you know, now, I'm not putting him in Canton

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Speaker 1: or anything like that. I'm just saying that it looks

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Speaker 1: like he'll be a good piece of the whole depth

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Speaker 1: chart here that they have at that position group. So

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Speaker 1: if you do knock Wood have some injury issues, he

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Speaker 1: can pick it up in a way that wasn't possible

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Speaker 1: last year as a rookie. But it looks like he's

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Speaker 1: taken that year one a year or two jump for

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Speaker 1: this time of year, and he's got to keep it

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Speaker 1: going otherwise. It doesn't mean anything comes September. It's we've

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Speaker 1: talked for two years now, at a minimum to three

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Speaker 1: years maybe since the night he was drafted with Will

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Speaker 1: Fuller about Will going deep and how much that changes things.

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Speaker 1: And obviously Will's not going through OTAs we talked about

639
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Speaker 1: that because he's coming back and he's rehabit from the injury.

640
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 1: We saw him out there today though, saw him out

641
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 1: there just on the hoof. Will looks good and hopefully

642
00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 1: he's ready to go for training camp and ready to

643
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 1: go for Week one aginst New Orleans because he does

644
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 1: change things. There's no doubt he changes things. Drew and

645
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 1: I talked about that on the end of Lab podcast.

646
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 1: He has eleven touchdowns from Dashaun eleven such a limited action.

647
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 1: You know what the yards per touchdown is, yards per

648
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 1: touchdown reception. Give it to me. Twenty nine point three

649
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:24,719
Speaker 1: yards per touchdown reception. I mean, that's insane. In eleven games,

650
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 1: eleven touchdowns and he's got a three to six and

651
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 1: a nine in there. Because we put out a video

652
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 1: earlier today of the touchdown that he scored against Indianapolis. Now,

653
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 1: in that game, he only played a half, but he

654
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 1: scored that touchdown before that deal with the hamstring, but

655
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 1: will is hugely important. Now, why does that tie into

656
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 1: Vincent Smith? Well, today you could see Vincent going deep

657
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 1: and you could see the impact of speed and Vincent

658
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 1: going all right, all right, Vincent, I'll see you. But

659
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 1: we've seen that from him, we have, but you've seen

660
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 1: that from him. He ran Arounte today. That reminded me

661
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 1: of Fuller. I know, I know exactly what I'm talking about,

662
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 1: and watch away from us. Yeah, I'm not giving away

663
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 1: state secrets here, but you know, because look, we all

664
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 1: saw what he did the world saw what he did

665
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 1: against Philadelphia. But I'm enjoying this watching his development, and

666
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 1: like I said, it's just a work in progress. You

667
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 1: got to see it continue because I've labeled guys before

668
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 1: and had my eye on them. Sometimes it works out,

669
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 1: sometimes it doesn't. But very encouraging for now what you're seeing.

670
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 1: Guy made the fifty three man roster, made some plays

671
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 1: for you last year. Let's see what he does in

672
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen. I read something today and I can't remember

673
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 1: what it was. I think I was on a coaching

674
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 1: site or coaching was a coaching Twitter or something, and

675
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 1: they were talking about wide receivers and it may have

676
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 1: been a foreman for a player, I can't remember. Anyways,

677
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 1: they were talking about the different things that receivers do

678
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 1: to get open, to get separation, to get off the

679
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage. And one of the things that this

680
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 1: particular person had mentioned was changing speeds. You know, like

681
00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 1: a picture will change speed, and that just throws you

682
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 1: off throwing a ninety eight mile or fastball and all

683
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 1: of a sudden, here comes to change up at eighty

684
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 1: one or also he's way out in front of it,

685
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 1: and so changing speeds is big and he said for receivers,

686
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 1: changing speeds is huge with your routes, if you can

687
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 1: change speeds. I bring that up, Mark, because the other

688
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 1: guy that we've talked about a bunch and a more

689
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 1: detail to it, because we've all talked about Kiki Qt

690
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 1: looks good. I mean, I've heard it everywhere all throughout

691
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 1: the city. But why I'm gonna tell you today why

692
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 1: his ability to get off the line of scrimmage and

693
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:33,719
Speaker 1: get clean from defensive backs is unbelievable. And one of

694
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 1: the things that he does is he changes speeds. He'll

695
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 1: give different releases off the line of scrimmage, and he's

696
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:44,319
Speaker 1: so quick off the line of scrimmage that you have

697
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 1: to respect everything. So if he kind of slow plays

698
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 1: you off the line of scrimmage and then boom, he's

699
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 1: gonna lightning one way or the other. It's a defensive back.

700
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 1: What do you do with that? And if you get

701
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 1: to the lead one way exactly and then they Mark

702
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:03,400
Speaker 1: I saw him today, lose completely, Just lose guys within

703
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,360
Speaker 1: three steps. You know, We've seen all these videos online

704
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,240
Speaker 1: of all these guys that go these rivals or Adidas

705
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 1: high school camps. They're throwing all these different moves and

706
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 1: it's like, look with me, I'm going I'm doing this

707
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 1: and I'm going left, and then I'm going right and

708
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 1: I'm doing that, and then you haven't even gone anywhere yet. Yeah,

709
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 1: Kiki was doing that and getting open at the very

710
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 1: same time, and it was just amazing to watch. It

711
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 1: felt like I was watching and one video combined with

712
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,400
Speaker 1: teaching tape for how an inside receiver is supposed to

713
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 1: get free and go catch the football. It was unbelievable

714
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:37,759
Speaker 1: to watch him get separation today from defensive backs. And

715
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:39,760
Speaker 1: it won't always be that easy, but it just felt

716
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 1: like not only was he getting separation, but he knew

717
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 1: the right spot based on the coverages he was reading

718
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 1: where to go. He saw zone, he saw a man,

719
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 1: he knew what to do, he knew where to go,

720
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,399
Speaker 1: He knew where to find that spot. And that, if

721
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:58,880
Speaker 1: anything else, is what has made Julian Edelman so great

722
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 1: for that offense. I mean, obviously pretty helps, but but

723
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 1: Edelman knows where to go. He because Brady knows it.

724
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 1: He's like, I know Jewels will see this, so I

725
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 1: can just throw this ball to a spot and he's

726
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 1: gonna be there. How about it reminds me of the

727
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 1: AFC Championship game. What you're just saying there when Romo's

728
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 1: on the air and saying Edlement over the middle, right,

729
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 1: you know, it's third down and whatever, they gotta get it,

730
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 1: And all of a sudden, Edleman's over the middle and

731
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:26,320
Speaker 1: he's open. He's open, He's wide open, and the announcer

732
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 1: knew he was going. Now the defender has to respect

733
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 1: what if he doesn't go over the middle, but if

734
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 1: he and he sold that to him and he made

735
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,880
Speaker 1: it work. It's fascinating how these guys do it. You know,

736
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 1: Andre Johnson was great at it. Obviously, Hopkins is great

737
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,320
Speaker 1: at it. Hopkins is also great at hey, I'm also

738
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 1: covered anyway, throwing me the ball because I'm gonna catch it,

739
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 1: because this is just who I am. I'm the best

740
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 1: in the game at that. Most guys can't get away

741
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 1: with that. But he is the best in the game.

742
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 1: So you have that, all right. We gotta get to

743
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 1: a couple of other things here, because I know we

744
00:36:55,960 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 1: can talk about OTAs for days. But Florio tweeted out

745
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 1: about the Saint Louis Blues having the country Road song,

746
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 1: and they start to get into the best songs that

747
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 1: they play in stadiums or stadium if you want to

748
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 1: get really nerdy about it, because that's the proper plural

749
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 1: to correct. Yeah, but country Roads, Why do you sing

750
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 1: about West Virginia when you're in Saint Louis. Well that's

751
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 1: what got That's what got Floria's attention. Just done on

752
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 1: me because he's in West Virginia. So that's that, I'm

753
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 1: sure is what got got his attention. Yeah. Um, the

754
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:36,840
Speaker 1: the song that the Blackhawks play and I'm trying to

755
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 1: remember it. What what it is? If you heard if

756
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 1: I heard it, and I'm I know you you've heard it.

757
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,240
Speaker 1: It's in the it's in the sixties. Not dirty Dirty

758
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 1: Water is the one they play in Boston. Yeah, that

759
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:49,719
Speaker 1: they play a lot of stuff in bot they do.

760
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 1: They play Sweet Caroline, they play because they used to

761
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:54,760
Speaker 1: play that. When I went to games of the eighties

762
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 1: there right right, they played Josie, which I want to

763
00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:00,040
Speaker 1: shoot myself and might hear that. I don't want to

764
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 1: hear that ever. Again, I don't want to hear it, Johnny.

765
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 1: I'm I'm right there. I'm right there with you, and

766
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 1: I think the story on that one is pretty funny.

767
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 1: But the Blackhawks would play. The Blackhawks would play a

768
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,759
Speaker 1: song when they were running really well. I mean they

769
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 1: were the best team in hockey from like twenty eleven

770
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:24,880
Speaker 1: to twenty fifteen. Maybe it was kind of black Hawks

771
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 1: Bruins with the black Hawks I think won two or

772
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 1: three championships in that run. Then it was Deli King

773
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 1: Chelsea Dagger. The whole building would just go berserk. What

774
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,840
Speaker 1: about the hurdy? What about the Ravens and white stripes?

775
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 1: It's okay, I'm all right. I mean, I mean when

776
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 1: they played it that Monday and night thought it was cool.

777
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 1: I thought it was okay. I didn't enjoy it that now.

778
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 1: But a lot of other teams have tried to pick

779
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:51,800
Speaker 1: that up. There are some you don't play in stadiums anymore,

780
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 1: Like you don't play rock and Roll Park Throw anymore. Uh,

781
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 1: you don't play we will Rock You really anymore, which

782
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:00,360
Speaker 1: is too bad for Queen. But that they had this

783
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 1: crazy train. Somebody plays crazy Dreamorous teams play that, right,

784
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 1: I thought so? I thought there was yeah, I mean

785
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 1: a lot of teams play that. Here's now this is one.

786
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 1: It came out. It came out. The reason it came

787
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 1: out was very It was very sad, but it really

788
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 1: came out organically and now it's become a ritual at

789
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 1: University of Florida. Going into the fourth quarter, they sing,

790
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:25,799
Speaker 1: they sing, we are the Boys of Florida, and then

791
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:27,799
Speaker 1: they sway back and forth. Then it's kind of cool

792
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 1: and usually the TV time out going into the fourth

793
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 1: quarter is pretty long. So in twenty seventeen, I think

794
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 1: it was, they started singing Tom Petty because Tom Petty

795
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 1: had passed away that week and he's from Gainesville. Yeah,

796
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 1: and so they sang won't back Down, and the whole

797
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:52,840
Speaker 1: stadium is singing the song. The whole stadium is singing,

798
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 1: and that has now become a tradition. They sing we

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00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 1: are the Boys of Old Florida. And then right as

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00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 1: that is that is over the the PA and ouncer

801
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:04,280
Speaker 1: or whoever's on the on the on the ones and twos,

802
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 1: he plays Tom Petty won't back down in the whole

803
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 1: place just knows exactly what to do. Some of the

804
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:11,879
Speaker 1: stuff has to be organic like that. It just sort

805
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 1: of happens, you know. Here obviously you have the bulls

806
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 1: Operade stuff, but that's not a sing along. Okay, So

807
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,879
Speaker 1: you have you've had some stuff here that has turned

808
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 1: out for what Yes, obviously that's one of the most

809
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:28,799
Speaker 1: great tow I sing along and you can't force it.

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00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 1: We'll just see what happens and maybe something develops as

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00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 1: time goes high. So the Boost fans sing country roads,

812
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 1: they sing, they sing it. It's a good sing along song, though,

813
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 1: I mean it's I don't understand St. Louis, Missouri and

814
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:43,279
Speaker 1: you're singing about West Virginia. It just feels kind of weird. Yeah,

815
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:46,879
Speaker 1: don't you know. Another thing is Sweet Caroline and uh

816
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 1: Fenway Park, which is done in a lot of other

817
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:52,799
Speaker 1: stadiums now. But when I went to Fenway Park a

818
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,400
Speaker 1: long time ago, when I went to college there, if

819
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 1: they didn't sing that, that wasn't there yet. That had

820
00:40:57,719 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 1: not made it yet. So it's funny how things develop.

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Speaker 1: All right, that's gonna do it for tonight. Thank you, Johnny,

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00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 1: Thank you, mar all Right, Little OT eight talk Danny

823
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 1: Barrett running backs coach on the program. Romeo Cornell was

824
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 1: on with us earlier. Again. This will be podcast on

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00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 1: iTunes on Houston Texans dot com wherever fine podcasts are available.

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Speaker 1: So we invite you to tune in tomorrow night. More

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Speaker 1: from these assistant coaches, what these teams are going through.

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Speaker 1: Let's hear from Deonta Foreman tomorrow as well as we

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00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 1: settle up one more time for Texans Radio weeknights at

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00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,839
Speaker 1: six here on Sports Radio six ten and the Texans App.

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Speaker 1: Have a great night, everyone, and go Texans.