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Speaker 1: to another episode of Thinking Sideways. I'm Joe, joined as

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Speaker 1: always by Devin and Steve, and as you know, if

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Speaker 1: well if you've never listened to us before, what we

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Speaker 1: do is we solved unsolved mysteries. We find a mystery,

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Speaker 1: us on Stitcher and iTunes and stuff. He's playing. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's the worst description of the show I've ever heard.

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Speaker 1: Episodes we haven't solved anything. Always saw the few we

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Speaker 1: But occasionally we'll shed a little a little bit of

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Speaker 1: here and let's talk about our weekly mystery here. The

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Speaker 1: mystery is the Count of Saint Germain. I know some

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Speaker 1: of you may have heard of this guy. I've heard

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Speaker 1: of the liquor St. Germaine. Uh, this this show was,

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Speaker 1: or this idea was actually a listener's suggestion unfortunately, was

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Speaker 1: And so usually we give acknowledgement, but in this case

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Speaker 1: There's no possible way that these regular human people could

425
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:24,000
Speaker 1: have met him before. So I'm just trying to figure

426
00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:27,879
Speaker 1: out if they're saying that it's the Count because a

427
00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:31,720
Speaker 1: he said he's the Count, be they've seen a painting

428
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:36,920
Speaker 1: of him and the likeness is striking, or if it's

429
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:40,520
Speaker 1: just anecdotal, you know. I'm just I'm trying to understand

430
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:44,880
Speaker 1: because I could never get a good handle on why

431
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:48,240
Speaker 1: they I said, oh, yeah, he was the Count. What

432
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:52,679
Speaker 1: what drove that? Well? I kind of suspect that the

433
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,879
Speaker 1: hand I'm half serious here. I suspect that there was

434
00:24:55,920 --> 00:25:00,440
Speaker 1: probably a standing joke among the nobility and the higher

435
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 1: higher classes in Europe about the Count. I think he

436
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 1: became kind of famous, and I think that maybe it

437
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:09,719
Speaker 1: was just a joke that you run into somebody say hey,

438
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:11,720
Speaker 1: seen the Count and say, oh, yeah, you know, I

439
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 1: saw the Count at a Rosa Crucian convention in Boden, Boden,

440
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 1: and I just thought, it's all just a joke. It

441
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,720
Speaker 1: could become the Dozki's guy. Yeah, yeah, I mean, I

442
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 1: mean maybe that's just maybe as as simple as that.

443
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:24,840
Speaker 1: But you're right, I mean at a certain point, I mean,

444
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 1: when it's like seventee, well, sure he could still be

445
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:29,960
Speaker 1: alive and there'd be people around who knew him, so

446
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:32,080
Speaker 1: that all makes sense. But then when you're getting up

447
00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:34,320
Speaker 1: to the you know, like you know, the closing of

448
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:37,240
Speaker 1: the nineteenth century, that's a little different. But yeah, that's

449
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:40,960
Speaker 1: that's what I could never get a clear line on

450
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:45,359
Speaker 1: was how what what interaction when it was written down

451
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 1: and then transcribed and rewritten, YadA, YadA, YadA, What what

452
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:54,600
Speaker 1: actually happened? And yeah, I know that the records are

453
00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:59,439
Speaker 1: a little sparse and inconclusive, and we're probably not going

454
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:01,679
Speaker 1: to get the answer to my question. That is driving

455
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 1: the bonkers, but I got to ask it anyway. Yeah,

456
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 1: there's uh, there is a ton of stuff on the

457
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:10,479
Speaker 1: internet about this guy. I mean, he's really really excited

458
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:12,440
Speaker 1: a lot of people's interests, and so you know, as

459
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 1: you know, the more more web pages there are, the

460
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:20,520
Speaker 1: more opportunities for what's the word of embellishment, Yeah, mischief

461
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 1: business Yeah, trolling, Yeah, trolling, there's that. But here's the deal,

462
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:29,160
Speaker 1: and this is what we really need to figure out

463
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 1: is that if the count truly is immortal, that means

464
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 1: he's still alive today, and that means at least one

465
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 1: of these websites is his website. We need to figure

466
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:42,440
Speaker 1: out which one that is one it is. It's probably

467
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:44,800
Speaker 1: that one that had the purple background with the purple

468
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 1: text on. Yeah, it's probably that one. Yeah, probably made

469
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 1: that one for himself. Yeah, I don't know. It's got

470
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:54,920
Speaker 1: to be a way to figure out which one is

471
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,600
Speaker 1: account's website, and then we'll deal with that in the

472
00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:02,960
Speaker 1: future research. Yeah. Yeah, Well, I'll just spit out a

473
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:06,399
Speaker 1: couple more things here. There was a strange encounter of

474
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,919
Speaker 1: World War One in August nineteen fourteen, two Bavarian soldiers

475
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 1: captured a man in Alsas. During the interrogation uh their

476
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:18,639
Speaker 1: prisoner well started got irritable and starting to rail about

477
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 1: the futility of the war, and he told his captors

478
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 1: throw it down your guns. The war will end in

479
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 1: nineteen eighteen with defeat for the German nation and her allies.

480
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:30,440
Speaker 1: And then he said everyone will be a millionaire after

481
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 1: the war. This is something I think somebody made up. Actually, yeah, yeah,

482
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 1: it's too easy. Yeah, everyone will be a millionaire after

483
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 1: the war. There'll be so much money in circulation, people

484
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 1: will throw it from windows and no one will bother

485
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:43,400
Speaker 1: to pick it up. You'll need to carry it around

486
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:47,440
Speaker 1: a wheelbarrel to buyleaf of bread. Which is actually that's true.

487
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:51,680
Speaker 1: It's totally true because when the German economy was collapsing

488
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 1: and inflation was running rampant, but nobody kept cash. You know,

489
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:02,920
Speaker 1: it was worthless. I mean they made the was the

490
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 1: million dollar mark or whatever it was the market was, yeah, yeah, yeah,

491
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:12,159
Speaker 1: they you know, actually it was a hundred thousands and

492
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 1: a million because it was just so worthless that it

493
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 1: took so much to buy so little that nobody could

494
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 1: carry it. Yeah, I think it was only very recently

495
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 1: in time that Zimbabwe started publicly and started printing their

496
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 1: million million dollar note million Zimbabwean dollars or whatever they are,

497
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 1: because became so worthless. I would love to have a

498
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:35,359
Speaker 1: million dollar bill, wouldn't it be cool? Well, you know

499
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 1: those those old notes, I mean, people literally were burning

500
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 1: them to heat their homes, that's how little value they had.

501
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 1: And very few of them have survived the value of

502
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 1: those bills. Now, those weird denominations that they kept putting

503
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 1: out just because of inflation our collector's item, and they

504
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 1: were worth a lot of money. And I've seen pictures

505
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 1: on it, and it's amazing to see a not a

506
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 1: not a joke, but a true note that has that

507
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 1: many zeroes on it, and it looks like monopoly money

508
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 1: because it's just got such a huge number written on it.

509
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 1: It's really it's it's sad. My My uncle was in

510
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 1: the war and in Europe um and he brought back

511
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 1: the only supnero brought back that I know. There's a

512
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 1: Walter automatic pistol, which he gave to me years ago,

513
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 1: So that was nice of him. I thought it was

514
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 1: a really generous gift actually, but I really wish he'd

515
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 1: picked up a few of those notes and brought those

516
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 1: back and given those to me too. That would have

517
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 1: been cool. Yeah. I believe it's what they thought was

518
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 1: worth anything, and it wasn't the note. Yeah. Any who, again,

519
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 1: let's go back to our story. H some other meetings,

520
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 1: but I'm not gonna like beat on this too much.

521
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 1: In August nineteen, a guy named Guy Bollard supposedly met

522
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 1: him on Mount Shasta in California, and it started the

523
00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 1: the I AM activity, which you can if you google that.

524
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 1: There's a wiki page on it. I AM and AM

525
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 1: stands for Ascended Master. Yeah, I know, yeah, he's an

526
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 1: ascended being. Essentially there was. He was also supposedly spotted

527
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 1: in in nineteen sixties at a conference in Berlin. Um

528
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 1: so and last of all and seventy two again named

529
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 1: Richard Champery, when on French television claiming to be the

530
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 1: count that was discredited. Didn't. He said he knew how

531
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,200
Speaker 1: to turn led into gold and he did it in

532
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 1: front of everybody on a camp stove over something like that. Yeah,

533
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 1: I would like to I'd like to be able to

534
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 1: do that. Yeah, me too, man. Yeah, it didn't turn

535
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 1: out very well for him. No, I'm shocked he I

536
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 1: don't know. Everybody turned against him because they knew what

537
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 1: it fraud he was and he ended up committing suicide,

538
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 1: which was terrible. Yeah, I know, it just goes to show. Yeah,

539
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 1: be honest, don't don't troll the world. Let's get in

540
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 1: some theories to what the count was all about. Was

541
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 1: he immortal or not? So the first theory is is, yeah,

542
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 1: he was just immortal. Don't have any thoughts on that. Well,

543
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 1: there's a lot of stories about supposed immortal beings through

544
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 1: history that that is kind of a consistent theme, and

545
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 1: we can bring it to modern times with things like

546
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 1: doctor Who's we've been joking about or the Highlander things

547
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 1: like that. You know, these guys are from way back

548
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 1: on and have lived far far in the future. But

549
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 1: it's not quite credible. No, because here's the thing. Okay, this,

550
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 1: this is something I've always had a problem with with,

551
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 1: say the Highlander series. I swear I've seen episodes of

552
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 1: that where they were sick. But let's just say they

553
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 1: don't get sick, so they don't get diseases or even worse,

554
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 1: sexually transmitted diseases. But let's just say they get a

555
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 1: hand chopped off. Now you get to go through and

556
00:31:56,760 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 1: I mean this, this doesn't make sense. You're not very

557
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 1: well brushed up on your doctor who Cannon, are you? No,

558
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 1: I'm not. Yeah, because he loses a hand, because that

559
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 1: to me is, while still far flung, a little more grounded. Obviously,

560
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 1: obviously the Highlander guy accounts from the same sort of

561
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 1: class of beings as a doctor. So you can regenerate too. Yeah, yeah,

562
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 1: he's a time ward too. I just counterpoint with Kiana

563
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 1: Reeves just constantly. No, I mean genuinely. I mean Patiana

564
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 1: actually actually does look a little older, Nies, he looks

565
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 1: a little older than he used to. That's definitely true.

566
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 1: I guess it's not serious. I'm not serious. I don't

567
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 1: don't actually think Kiana Reeves is immortal. He doesn't age

568
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 1: a lot, but that's explained by a lot of different things.

569
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 1: But I do think to percent discount the idea of

570
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 1: immortal beings in our world is I'm not willing to

571
00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 1: totally discount it. I think there are a lot of

572
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 1: weird things in our world, and I just you know, yeah,

573
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 1: but I'm kind of wondering what because part of the

574
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 1: aging process isn't just breakdown and sell regeneration and stuff

575
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 1: like that, but also just gravity. That's why you get like,

576
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 1: you know, you get kind of jowelly or and saggy

577
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 1: or as you get older. It's not just because you're

578
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 1: aging because of gravity. So imagine what a twenty year

579
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 1: old person would look like like, you know, yeah, yeah.

580
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 1: But the thing is, I've got an uncle who I've

581
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 1: known for, you know, thirty some years that he's been

582
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 1: in my family. And that guy you see a picture

583
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 1: of him twenty years ago and now, and he looks

584
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 1: maybe ten pounds heavier, but otherwise identical. So there are

585
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 1: people who don't appear to his age as much as others.

586
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 1: And I wonder if maybe that's part of it. Where

587
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 1: all your friends are working in the field or all

588
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 1: your servants are toiling and they're killing themselves and they're

589
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,399
Speaker 1: aging quite rapidly, and then you've got this one guy

590
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 1: who's gotta live in the life of luxury and he

591
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:13,799
Speaker 1: kind of hits his stride of what he's gonna look

592
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 1: like at about thirty. But it really hasn't done any

593
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 1: strenuous outdoor activity through years, but stayed in okay, shape,

594
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:25,320
Speaker 1: he's gonna look the same for all intents and purposes.

595
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:30,880
Speaker 1: And people's memories are notoriously shoddy, so they won't notice

596
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 1: the one the couple of bags that you have that

597
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 1: aren't that big compared to when they saw you twenty

598
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 1: years ago and you had none under your eyes. It's

599
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:42,799
Speaker 1: also possible to count lied about stuff like when Yeah,

600
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 1: when he was in Vanics, for example, and him at

601
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 1: that counts as who had known him supposedly, maybe it

602
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 1: really was his father that she had known and he

603
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,400
Speaker 1: just lied to her about it. Also, even a portrait

604
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 1: of Dorian Gray we kind of mentioned before too. Maybe

605
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 1: you just have a painting that ages for you, Yeah,

606
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 1: that takes care of gravity. That would be kind of cool.

607
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 1: Magic is a thing. Who do I get to go

608
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:07,879
Speaker 1: for you? For one of them? I don't know. Well,

609
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 1: let's move on to our next theory. This has actually

610
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 1: been posted. Some people have actually suggested this that he

611
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 1: is the wandering Jew. Yeah, explained everybody, who the wandering

612
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 1: Jew is, Yeah, the wandering Jew is. Apparently there was

613
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 1: a Jewish guy who when Jesus was heading off to

614
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 1: his crucifixion, carrying his cross as some Jewish guy taunted him,

615
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 1: so Jew, and so Jesus threw a curse on the

616
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 1: wandering Jew, which is that he was to walk the

617
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:38,800
Speaker 1: earth until he returns until the second coming of Christ.

618
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 1: So the wandering Jew wasn't quite immortal. He's gonna die

619
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:45,239
Speaker 1: sometime when Jesus comes back, but in the meantime, he's

620
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,880
Speaker 1: stuck on this planet. So the wandering Jews who he is.

621
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 1: But there's not nothing ever said about him not aging.

622
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:54,279
Speaker 1: He just test to live that long, that's true. I mean,

623
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:55,759
Speaker 1: maybe he has to spend like the you know, the

624
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 1: next ten thousand years in her rest home. Yeah, that's depressing,

625
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 1: that would be Oh Jesus, your mean, actually, the wandering

626
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 1: Jew thing didn't even come into into currency until I

627
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 1: to think the thirteenth century. It's not like that's documented

628
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 1: or anything like that. Right that that was a story

629
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 1: that that got spun up. But this whole thing about

630
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:24,280
Speaker 1: this is my whole thing about immortality. And people always glamorize, Oh,

631
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 1: if I was a vampire and live forever, if I

632
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:31,800
Speaker 1: was immortal, or however whatever way they go about becoming immortal,

633
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 1: nobody ever thinks about it. And And I've seen this dramatize

634
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:39,800
Speaker 1: in a number of places of what a lonely freaking

635
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 1: existence that would have to be after about the first

636
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty years. That's why you find your tribe.

637
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 1: Man maybe, but you know everybody, you know, everything you're

638
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:57,240
Speaker 1: used to, it's gone, new friends. But I think about,

639
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:01,840
Speaker 1: you know, think about this is mad And there was

640
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 1: I don't know if you ever watched that TV show

641
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 1: Alias No, I never watched that. That was actually kind

642
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 1: of fun. It was it was it was created by J. J. Abrams.

643
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:12,359
Speaker 1: And there's this like, you know, uber bad guy whose

644
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 1: name I forget, and he's trying to amass all these

645
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:17,439
Speaker 1: artifacts and stuff from this one particular you know, mad

646
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:20,359
Speaker 1: medieval genius. The idea of being is if you get

647
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 1: all these together and I forget it's been a while

648
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,439
Speaker 1: and and wave wave your hands over them and see

649
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:29,919
Speaker 1: the right words, you achieve immortality. And so I think

650
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:32,880
Speaker 1: that the ultimate episode, the ending episode of the show.

651
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 1: The spoilers, yeah, well, I mean everybody's gonna watch that show.

652
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 1: Has been years since the show was Yeah, And so

653
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:45,919
Speaker 1: this guy goes into this cave and he and he

654
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 1: has shot is shot. Our heroine's father is also a

655
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:52,840
Speaker 1: regularity in the series, and so he shot him and

656
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 1: left him for dead, but he's not quite dead. It

657
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 1: goes into this cave and and and finds this this

658
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:01,760
Speaker 1: little room in the that's got you know, the final

659
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 1: piece he needs to achieve immortality. And then the achieves immortality,

660
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 1: and then suddenly Dad pops in the doorway and he's

661
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 1: got like a dynamite belt and blows it up and

662
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 1: kills he kills him. He dies, of course, and of

663
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 1: course the cave partially collapses, and so this guy who's

664
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:26,400
Speaker 1: now immortal has to spend eternity trapped in a cavern

665
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 1: pinned under a boulder. Yeah, it was like the ultimate

666
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,359
Speaker 1: come up. But anyway, I'm totally gonna go off the

667
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 1: yeare Yeah, Okay, So much of the wandering to a was,

668
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 1: as I said in my notes series, got black hair,

669
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:43,399
Speaker 1: which is which is fair enough. But he was also

670
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:46,879
Speaker 1: described as having pale skin, and especially in the days

671
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 1: of Jesus, the Jews did not have pale skin. No,

672
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 1: they look like little small Arabs. And the Arabs were

673
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:56,400
Speaker 1: small back in those days too. I mean, this is

674
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 1: like two thousand years ago. Everybody's probably five ft three.

675
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 1: That was a tall person. I mean have you ever

676
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 1: ever seen like you go to England he sees do

677
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 1: you see these suits of armor that are on display. Yeah,

678
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 1: it's like these were the big guys. They're really big

679
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:11,839
Speaker 1: guys that got to push everybody else around, and they're

680
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 1: about as tall as Devon. Yeah if everyone was my size. Yeah,

681
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 1: I know people were small back in the day. What's next, Okay,

682
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 1: our next theory suspended animation. Yeah, so the count we

683
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 1: can't would go out meet with people, you know, get

684
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:29,399
Speaker 1: his face out there, you know, and then go back

685
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:33,919
Speaker 1: to wherever and jump into his suspended animation capsule and

686
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 1: just you know, not age for twenty years. Yea, now

687
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 1: it is dumb. Just threw it in there. Next next

688
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 1: to one is time travel. Yeah, it was a time travel.

689
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 1: It would make sense. That would makes sense. He was

690
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:48,400
Speaker 1: able to foresee things happen that happened in the future,

691
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 1: tried to warn people people. Yeah, he couldn't actually intervene,

692
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 1: but you know, yeah, so it's not like so he

693
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 1: in this scenario, he had a normal lifespan, but he

694
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:00,840
Speaker 1: was able to spread it out very great number of

695
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:03,279
Speaker 1: years because he was bouncing around between points and times

696
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 1: the important points. Yeah, so I'm assigning this one in Yeah,

697
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:19,720
Speaker 1: I agree, yeah, no not just yeah, okay, yeah, okay,

698
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 1: uh next up, and then that kind of fits he

699
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 1: was a vampire because he didn't eat food, didn't have sex.

700
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you're right. I didn't know he could be

701
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 1: dead and he could be dead by he could have

702
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 1: got him. Yeah, I know. Uh so if he was

703
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 1: a vampire, that explains why he wouldn't eat food and

704
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 1: why he wasn't having sex with women. Yeah. And it

705
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 1: was also very pale. So this is going with the

706
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 1: glittery vampires, not the Dracula vampires. In other words, he

707
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 1: can go in the sun because but literally Bram Stoker

708
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 1: Dracula can't go in the sun and he burst into flame.

709
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:59,319
Speaker 1: This guy is like hob nobbing and going around. I'm

710
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 1: assuming that if we you know, if you read some

711
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 1: of the accounts, he's hanging out in the day with

712
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 1: people's which makes me think that he's going the like

713
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:12,720
Speaker 1: I said, the glittery vampire, like Twilight. Yeah, the Twilight Vampire.

714
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:15,840
Speaker 1: Thank you, I have expunged the name of that series

715
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 1: from my brain. I'm glad I was able to put

716
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 1: it back in what show in fairness, Twilight is not

717
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:27,879
Speaker 1: the first uh work to explore vampires as being able

718
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 1: to go into the daylight. Yeah, just saying I kind

719
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:34,919
Speaker 1: of prefer vampires being kind of limited age. Yeah, it's

720
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 1: what was the other one? That Queen of the Dam

721
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 1: has some stuff in that too. There's a lot of

722
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 1: other I mean, I know that, like, well, if you

723
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 1: were like say of Lestat Stature, you know, then he

724
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 1: actually was able to go out in the sun and

725
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 1: toast himself and still survive it. But a young vampire

726
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 1: couldn't survive it. But that's but you have to argue,

727
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:59,240
Speaker 1: if you know the Comte de Saint Germaine is vampire,

728
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 1: he's obviously of at least listat Stature. Well, yeah, of

729
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:05,879
Speaker 1: course yea, And yeah, I don't know how much time

730
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 1: he spent, like you know, outside versus inside and all

731
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 1: that stuff. I think this has probably got the most

732
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 1: pop cultural references ever an episode. Yeah, I think so. Yeah.

733
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:19,879
Speaker 1: Actually I never thought we'd talked about it. And rights book, Yeah,

734
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 1: actually her vampire books were pretty good and joy they

735
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:26,839
Speaker 1: were entertaining. The next theory, he just told a lot

736
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 1: of tall tales. He's just a liar that could have

737
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 1: been Yeah, he made a lot of very dubious claims.

738
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 1: He told people that he was five hundred years old.

739
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:39,320
Speaker 1: Voltaire called him the wonder man, and sarcastically, Castingova was

740
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 1: another doubter. Uh. He met the Count numerous times, and

741
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 1: he was as I said, was in his memoirs. The

742
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 1: Count was in Castanova's memoirs, that is, and here's a

743
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 1: small there's a small quote from he had more to say. Quote.

744
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 1: This extraordinary man, intended by nature to be the king

745
00:42:57,080 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 1: of impostors and quacks, would say, in an easy, assured manner,

746
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 1: that he was three years old, that he knew the

747
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 1: secret of the universal medicine, that he possessed a mastery

748
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 1: over nature, That he could melt diamonds, professing himself capable

749
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 1: of forming out of ten or twelve small diamonds one

750
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:16,839
Speaker 1: large one of the finest water without any loss of weight.

751
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:19,880
Speaker 1: All this he said, was a mere trifle to him.

752
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:23,319
Speaker 1: Notwithstanding his boastings, his bare his bare face lies, and

753
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:27,400
Speaker 1: his manifold eccentricities, I cannot say that I thought him offensive.

754
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 1: In spite of my knowledge of what he was, and

755
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 1: in spite of my own feelings, I thought him an

756
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:35,879
Speaker 1: astonishing man, as he was always astonishing me, and Cassanova

757
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 1: said that, right, we're not saying some puritan or yeah,

758
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:45,360
Speaker 1: he said, yeah, this guy was just a crank and

759
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:48,879
Speaker 1: a boster. So I gotta be honest. Anybody who says

760
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 1: they practice alchemy, Yeah, that just sounds like I tinker

761
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 1: in the garage and I play with these chemicals and

762
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 1: oh yeah, I can make goal gold out of lead,

763
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 1: and oh I made this a lixxir one time that

764
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 1: made me immortal, But I can't figure out how to

765
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 1: do it again, because of course I'm so brave. I

766
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 1: made this thing that I didn't know what it was

767
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 1: going to do, and then I drank it. Well, but

768
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:16,800
Speaker 1: what if it's real? Though? No, but I mean genuinely,

769
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 1: think about if alchemy was real and people knew about it,

770
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:22,239
Speaker 1: if you knew how to do that, would you be

771
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:25,760
Speaker 1: broadcasting it everywhere and saying I know how to create

772
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 1: all this wealth? Or would you hold that in and

773
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:30,320
Speaker 1: just secretly work your way up into the upper achalons

774
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 1: of society and just comfortably stay there. Yeah, you'd be

775
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 1: nuts to actually let that secret out, because if anybody

776
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 1: can make gold out of whatever, and then pretty soon

777
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:40,760
Speaker 1: goal is not worth a thing. So yeah, you obviously

778
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:44,400
Speaker 1: want to keep it close. Alchemy has got kind of

779
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 1: a poor track record. Yeah, I can see. Yeah, there's

780
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 1: been a what did Cassanova say, what's the term quacks? Yeah,

781
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:53,359
Speaker 1: there's been a lot of quacks. Yeah. No, I mean

782
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 1: I understand the desire to create gold out of nothing

783
00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 1: or lead or whatever, and a lot of people have

784
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 1: wasted a lot of time. I'm trying to do that.

785
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:04,360
Speaker 1: I just continue to argue that if you were actually

786
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 1: successful with that, you wouldn't be trying to tell people

787
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:09,279
Speaker 1: that you were doing it. You wouldn't know, you would

788
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:11,800
Speaker 1: not tell people behind it. Same thing with the Diona.

789
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 1: I can take ten or twelve small diamond and yeah,

790
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:16,799
Speaker 1: why would you do that? Yeah, and then you know

791
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 1: what you know, I mean, take a couple hundred diamonds

792
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:21,840
Speaker 1: and make the Hope diamond out of it. That'd be cool. Yeah,

793
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 1: that'd be really awesome. See that. It's probably how the

794
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 1: Hope Diamond was formed. Yeah. And one last thing there

795
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 1: at the time was an English comedian who called himself

796
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 1: Lord Gower, who was at large in Paris, and he

797
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 1: used to impersonate the Count of Saint Germain in Paris saloons. Yeah,

798
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 1: and he made up even crazier stories, and the real

799
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 1: accounts like that he had advised Jesus and stuff like this,

800
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:47,799
Speaker 1: and so let's stuff gets repeated around. Of course, next

801
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 1: thing you know, people are repeating it like it's true,

802
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 1: are mixed up with who said it, yeah and so

803
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 1: um and so. Yeah. I think this is all just

804
00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:01,839
Speaker 1: a big hoax. Yeah, I think, Yeah, I was gonna say,

805
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 1: I think it's stories mixed with stories, mixed with stories,

806
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 1: and once they get mixed up, you can never pull

807
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 1: them back apart. This guy is telling these tall tales,

808
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 1: this other guy is making fun of him, telling even

809
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 1: taller tales. And then it as Joe made the the

810
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 1: good observation of his saying I'm count Saint Germain is

811
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 1: a bit of a gag, just as fuel to the fun. Yeah,

812
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:31,759
Speaker 1: I think I think that really, his legend probably was

813
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:34,319
Speaker 1: such that I really do think that it probably became

814
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 1: a standing joke. You know, I see the count. Yeah,

815
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 1: I think that might have been a refrigerator running. Yeah,

816
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 1: I mean, I I love the idea of somebody being

817
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say immortal, but extremely long live. So

818
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:54,720
Speaker 1: let's just say a lifespan of four hundred years. I really.

819
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:57,840
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a little bit of romantic appeal in

820
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 1: terms of getting to see things and experience everything. So

821
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:03,920
Speaker 1: I like the idea. I'm not going to discount the

822
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:09,399
Speaker 1: idea at all, but I can't back it. Yeah, now

823
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 1: I can't either, so so sorry, I don't think it

824
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:15,799
Speaker 1: was immortal. But anyway, if you are the real count

825
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:18,439
Speaker 1: and you beg to differ, you can contact us via

826
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:22,319
Speaker 1: email at Thinking Sideways podcast at gmail dot com and

827
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:24,759
Speaker 1: really seriously, we would love to hear from you, and

828
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 1: we will totally totally et Crow on our show. Yeah,

829
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:32,880
Speaker 1: we totally will. Uh, just a few other odds and

830
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831
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834
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00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:10,400
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Speaker 1: I do Facebook. I just account. Yeah, it's a live journal. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: oh my god. Now seriously, I don't. I just kind

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Speaker 1: That's it's still I mean, it's it's fun to go

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Speaker 1: Oh and last of all, Twitter. Yes, we are on Twitter,

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Speaker 1: but we're a little different. We are thinking sideways. That's

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Speaker 1: thinking without the G so thinking sideways on Twitter. So

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Speaker 1: follow us on Twitter. And that's about it for this week.

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Speaker 1: So any for the thoughts. So awesome idea. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: love the suggestion. Yeah, alright, alright, let's it for now.

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