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Speaker 2: Golf as a winner takes All decider, and it's happening

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Speaker 2: this weekend at Saint John's Resort in beautiful Michigan. To

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Speaker 2: Live Golf Team Championship is absolutely on the line. Twelve

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Speaker 2: international squads battling to settle the entire season, and one

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Speaker 2: weekend of Survived Advanced Golf. It's a lot of fun.

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Speaker 2: The teams represent six continents include no fewer than fourteen

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Speaker 2: major championships. It's a global event. Notable players include Bryce

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Speaker 2: Fans also get a chance to enjoy the biggest party

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Speaker 2: with two iconic acts dropping in to headline the post

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Speaker 2: right after golf before Swedish House Mafia close out the

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Speaker 2: weekend Sunday at seven pm. It is a great time

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Speaker 2: at Saint John's Resort, one of America's boldest new resorts.

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Speaker 2: Built on the side of the old Catholic Seminary, Saint

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Speaker 2: asked Lachlan. I said, hey, Lachlan, because I lived in

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Speaker 2: So when you are because you, obviously, to our audience

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Speaker 2: For somebody that has never been to Australia, there are

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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely they do. He's probably not too far off

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Speaker 2: That's good living, cam I can tell you right now

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Speaker 2: it's the money, That's what it did, And I'm like, no,

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Speaker 2: So the Live Tour is more global than the PGA Tour,

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Speaker 2: describe their greatness, John.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I mean he's incredible.

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Speaker 1: It feels like when you're playing against him, when you're

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Speaker 2: He's the great chef that spills a few things, but

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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, absolutely, Rory McElroy.

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Speaker 1: I don't think anyone could ever be better than him

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Speaker 2: You know, Bryce Mushambeau is he looks like a football

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, they're okay, okay.

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Speaker 2: They're okay, all right, Cam's reporting that. But it's it's

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Speaker 2: Honest, Finally, I was in Chicago. The Indie crowds were

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Speaker 2: That Are you aware of that? Like in basketball, the

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Speaker 3: Last week was really cool.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Michigan's a beautiful state. I don't know how familiar

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Speaker 2: know that you've really gotten that Midwest swing. You get

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Speaker 3: It was hot.

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Speaker 1: It was hot in Chicago, Indiana last week was hot too,

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Speaker 2: The Midwest can get a little, a little warm. But

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what Midwest in America, those sports fans

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Speaker 2: they like their beer as much as you like your

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Speaker 2: aussy beer, my friend, I can assure you that, Cam Smith, Hey,

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Speaker 2: I appreciate you stopping mind given us fifteen minutes. I

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no worries, mate, thanks for having me on. I

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