1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: Third hour, Thursday edition, Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. We 2 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 1: are rolling through with a ton of different breaking news stories. 3 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: We've been talking about the firing that just happened while 4 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 1: we were live on the air. At the top of 5 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 1: the second hour of Pam Bondy as Attorney General, President 6 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:26,119 Speaker 1: Trump says she is going to move into the private sector. 7 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 1: We have been talking about the situation in Iran, the 8 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:35,200 Speaker 1: launch of Artemis two, and the address that President Trump 9 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 1: had last night. We are now joined by Katie Zachariya. 10 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 1: She is a lawyer. She has got a lot of 11 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: different opinions on a variety of topics. But Katie, thanks 12 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 1: for joining us. Right off the top, Pam Bondy is out. 13 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 2: You're a lawyer. 14 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 1: I floated several names, Florida Governor Ron DeSantis, the both 15 00:00:56,480 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 1: Senators Mike Lee and Ted Cruz. There are reports that 16 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:04,680 Speaker 1: Lee Zelden might be the choice if you sort of 17 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 1: had a magic wand and you were able to put 18 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 1: names into the mix for attorney general based on your 19 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 1: legal background. Anybody that stands out to you that you 20 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:16,919 Speaker 1: think would do a good job as attorney general. 21 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 3: Well, you had a. 22 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 4: Great list there, and Governor DeSantis has done an excellent 23 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 4: job in Florida, and I'd love to juxtapose that with 24 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 4: our disaster out here in California. 25 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 3: But when I look at Attorney General, I look at 26 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:31,399 Speaker 3: really I like Todd Blanche a lot. 27 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 4: That man stood behind President Trump during the off years. 28 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 4: He risks his career to defend him in court. He 29 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 4: is savage, and he his cutthroat, and I absolutely like him. 30 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 4: So if he does a great job as acting AG, 31 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 4: I think that they should put him permanently in that 32 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 4: position and he should be there to support the president. 33 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 3: I think he is a great pick. 34 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 2: Okay, hey Katie, it's Buck. 35 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 5: There's some stories out there, not confirmed yet, but that 36 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 5: have to do with the depart archer of Pambondi and 37 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 5: something along the lines of an investigation that was going 38 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:10,799 Speaker 5: on into Swallwell, who, as we all know, is, unless 39 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 5: I'm missing something, supposed to be the next governor of 40 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:17,399 Speaker 5: California according to the Democrats. Right, is there any way 41 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 5: in your mind, as a as a Californian and a lawyer, 42 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 5: is there any way in your mind that Swalwell might 43 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 5: get pushed aside by the Democrats based on I'm not 44 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 5: saying a Republican is gonna win in California. But if 45 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:34,799 Speaker 5: something really, really tough comes out, Let's just say, in 46 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:38,920 Speaker 5: this investigation into Swalwell his ties to the Chinese spy, 47 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 5: this is the stuff that's out there. Is it easy 48 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 5: for them, you think to move somebody else into the slot? 49 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:47,359 Speaker 5: Or is Swalwell the Democrats guy in California? Come what may? 50 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 3: Great question? But who are they going to put in? 51 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 6: Katie Porter? 52 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 4: Right like, I think they're banking on Swalwell because they don't. 53 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 3: Have anyone else. 54 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 4: And if he turns out to be have this, you know, 55 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 4: he has this situation with where does he live. 56 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:03,800 Speaker 3: Is he in California or is he was it DC. 57 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 4: Or Maryland or Virginia He had another residence and so 58 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 4: he has a lot of factors against him. What he 59 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:11,640 Speaker 4: doesn't have against him is he has good hair, which 60 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 4: you know the current governor has great hair. And that's 61 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:17,079 Speaker 4: what he's going to run for president on. And that's 62 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 4: about it. And I think he has right now the 63 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:22,080 Speaker 4: support of the Democrat Party, but they're going to have 64 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 4: to do a hard line with him. And as soon 65 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 4: as this stuff starts trickling out. He has a long 66 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 4: history of this this is this is not new about Swallwell. 67 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 4: He's just kind of flown under the radar for a 68 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 4: long time. And reports are indicating that he may or 69 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 4: may not have been friends with Pam BONDI I don't 70 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 4: know the veracity of that, but if he now doesn't 71 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 4: have a friend is ag maybe we're going to see 72 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 4: a little bit more about Eric Swalwall coming out. 73 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 1: In my opinion, Isn't it crazy, Katie that he could 74 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 1: be having allegedly a sexual relationship with a Chinese spy. 75 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 2: I believe Fang Fang and that. 76 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 1: He could now. But I sometimes people get elected and 77 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 1: I might not agree with him, but I can sit 78 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: back and say, Okay, you know what I can see 79 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 1: how that the idea that Eric Swalwell could be in 80 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 1: charge of California as bad as Gavin Newsom has been. 81 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: I think Swalwell would be orders of magnitude worse. And again, 82 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:23,160 Speaker 1: he allegedly slept with a Chinese spy. I just can't 83 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:26,479 Speaker 1: believe that he's electable anywhere correct. 84 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 4: We need to start going after him on all of 85 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 4: those things. He hasn't done anything for California. It's all 86 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:36,039 Speaker 4: been It's all really been him promoting himself, and that's 87 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:38,160 Speaker 4: what we've seen with most of these government officials out 88 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:40,280 Speaker 4: of California and really in a lot of places. 89 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 3: But he shouldn't be he should not be a serious contender. 90 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 4: But this is a problem that the Democrat Party faces 91 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:49,600 Speaker 4: on a presidential They don't have good candidates right now, 92 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:52,679 Speaker 4: and so they're pulling from Gavin Newsom. And our state 93 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:56,720 Speaker 4: is now we're bankrupt. You know, everyone's fleeing Los Angeles 94 00:04:56,720 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 4: in droves. Hollywood can't make a film here, Industry is crashing. 95 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 4: President Trump has to have an emergency order to drill oil. 96 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 3: From our you know, my era and the. 97 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 4: Entire state over a gold bed of oil, and they're 98 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:14,840 Speaker 4: not doing anything about it. So look, the Democrat Party 99 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:17,720 Speaker 4: is in free fall. And I think that this is 100 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 4: going to come back to haunt Swolwell and we're going 101 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 4: to be left with a Katie Porter, which means we're 102 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:24,479 Speaker 4: probably going to have a Republican governor. 103 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 5: It's amazing we're speaking to Kay zach Rya. It's amazing 104 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 5: that you mentioned Hollywood in there. Now it's fine for 105 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 5: a while. I think the talking points from the Democrats 106 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:39,720 Speaker 5: have been where the global media power or you know, 107 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 5: global entertainment powerhouse, and it's all Hollywood's doing great, and 108 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:45,799 Speaker 5: look at this and look at that, and now finally 109 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:48,719 Speaker 5: the numbers have come out for people that work in 110 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 5: this arena. I'm not talking about Netflix executives who could 111 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 5: just write checks to have the show made in Budapest 112 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 5: or a Vancouver, which is that that's actually happening a 113 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:01,599 Speaker 5: lot because it's so much cheap for anyone who lives 114 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 5: in Los Angeles County, which has been for one hundred 115 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 5: years with Hollywood the epicenter of the global film and 116 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 5: entertainment industry. It's it's turning into a ghost town for 117 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:18,040 Speaker 5: that industry. Right The jobs are down what like sixty 118 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 5: seventy percent? I mean, it's in free fall. Do people 119 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 5: realize that this is because of policy, because of what 120 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 5: has been done by the governance, by the governing bodies 121 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:30,159 Speaker 5: of California. 122 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:32,719 Speaker 4: Well, I hope so, because if you look, if you 123 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:35,720 Speaker 4: look at this trajectory, this has really been in I mean, 124 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:38,159 Speaker 4: Gavin Newsom inherited a little bit of this, but the 125 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:41,479 Speaker 4: free fall has really been happening since then. And it 126 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 4: goes into the wider story of Hollywood. They're not making 127 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 4: movies that Americans want to see anymore, and so they're 128 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:51,479 Speaker 4: you know, they're selling woke, woke, woke, and people are 129 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 4: now finding alternative forms of entertainment and looking towards alternative 130 00:06:55,320 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 4: studios like Angel Studios to find family friendly, non woke 131 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 4: material that they can watch with their entire family. So listen, 132 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 4: what's happening in Hollywood. With a taxes, people can't afford it. 133 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 4: So you have an actor or an aspiring actor who 134 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 4: comes out here and wants to work in Hollywood. They 135 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 4: can't even afford a one bedroom apartment in the middle 136 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 4: of West Hollywood or. 137 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 3: Really in any of the surrounding regions. 138 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 4: So it's a whole problem of affordability, taxes, material that 139 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 4: they can't use, and the decline of Hollywood in general, 140 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:29,679 Speaker 4: and so they're going to places like Georgia. 141 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 3: I myself went to go to have. 142 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 4: A film filmed in Ireland because it was a quarter 143 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 4: of the cost to do it in Ireland. This was 144 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 4: a young George Washington film that's going to be coming out, 145 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 4: but they had to film this whole thing in Ireland 146 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 4: because the tax incentives are so terrible in the United States. 147 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 4: So Los Angeles is just they never get it right 148 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 4: right now, and there's a mass exodus because you cannot 149 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 4: afford to live here and be an aspiring actor or 150 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 4: really an aspiring one entrepreneur. 151 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 1: Buck Uh, Katie, did I just hear that you have 152 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 1: a role in Young George Washington. 153 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 4: My husband is an executive producer on the film, So yes, 154 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 4: I I we got to go to Ireland and travel 155 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 4: for that film, which was an exciting, exciting time. 156 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 1: That's super cool. And I do think this is important 157 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 1: and I've said it quite a lot. I've spent a 158 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 1: lot of time in la I have a lot of 159 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:32,319 Speaker 1: great friends in la Uh, probably the second city that 160 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 1: I've spent the second most time in almost in my life. 161 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 1: And I've done a lot of television and Katie, I'm 162 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 1: sure you've seen this too, and I've talked about it 163 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 1: on the program before. But sometimes people here, oh, well, 164 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 1: there's a lot less jobs for Hollywood. 165 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 2: Good. 166 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 1: I hope they wear it. Actually, a lot of the 167 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 1: people losing those jobs are Republicans. A lot of the 168 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:53,839 Speaker 1: people who build the sets, a lot of the people 169 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 1: who walk around and carry the cameras, a lot of 170 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:59,679 Speaker 1: the people who do the physical labor that is required 171 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 1: to make movie and television shows and commercials actually vote read, 172 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 1: so they don't even share the politics of the people 173 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 1: that are costing them their jobs. And I do think 174 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 1: that's worth keeping in mind. Remember there are in twenty twenty, 175 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 1: there were more Republican votes for Donald Trump in California 176 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:24,079 Speaker 1: than in Texas in twenty twenty. Now that's a function 177 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 1: of population. But Katie, there are a lot of people 178 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 1: who agree with you, Me and Buck that live all 179 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 1: over California. 180 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 4: Well, that's the case, and we feel like the unrepresented, 181 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 4: underrepresented majority here because you have a lot of frustration. 182 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 4: But again, California is shows exactly why sanctuary states should 183 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 4: not happen, exactly why we should have the Save Act, 184 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:52,559 Speaker 4: and exactly why we should be able to regulate who's 185 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 4: voting in our elections. Because if those if everything gets 186 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 4: cleaned up and you have proof of citizenship and you 187 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 4: people that are supposed to be voting only voting in California, 188 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:06,719 Speaker 4: this state would not be blue. It would not be 189 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 4: even deep blue. I think we would be purple to read. 190 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 4: Based on what you just said, most Californians do not 191 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 4: agree with the current governance. Most Californians do like President 192 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 4: Trump and his policies and want more of President Trump's policies, 193 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 4: but have been completely stomped on by the Democrat Party 194 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 4: in California. And if you look at the fraud on 195 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 4: top of that, we're paying a high, high price to 196 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 4: continue with the sanctuary policies and sanctuary politicians. 197 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 5: Katie Zachariah, former spokesman at DHS, spokesperson and lawyer out 198 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 5: in California, appreciate you being with us. 199 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 2: We'll talk to you again soon. 200 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 5: You're gonna have to be our chief analyst of all 201 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 5: things swallowell for governor out there. 202 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 2: That's going to be interesting. 203 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 3: Count on me back. 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Find them on the free iHeartRadio 234 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:15,239 Speaker 1: app or wherever you get your podcasts. 235 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 2: Welcome back into Clay and Boss. Got a bunch of talkbacks. 236 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:22,679 Speaker 5: And calls we wanted to get to here and maybe 237 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 5: we even have an update for you on the next 238 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 5: ag if that is announced formally. We know Pam Bondy 239 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:32,320 Speaker 5: has she is moving on to greener pastures. 240 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:33,199 Speaker 2: There you go. 241 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:37,560 Speaker 5: This is Let's Do J podcast. Listener Josh from Georgia 242 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 5: on that Georgia candidate interview. 243 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 2: We just did hit hit J. Please pull the show. 244 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 7: And I love having these Democrat, Republican and for guests. 245 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 7: This guy from Georgia, in my opinion, I'm from Georgia 246 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 7: and from my opinion, he's full of crap. He's saying 247 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 7: what he needs to say to try to get the 248 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 7: Republican vote to get to win. That's just my honest opinion. 249 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 7: Take its leave it. I'm in there. I'm not voting 250 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 7: for him, but he does talk a good game. 251 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm just gonna say it. I asked them this, 252 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 5: so it's nothing I didn't say to the gentleman he 253 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 5: called in. If you're gonna take nothing but Republican positions, 254 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 5: you got to be with the Republican Party, right. 255 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:14,080 Speaker 2: It's kind of a weird deal. 256 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:17,319 Speaker 1: Well, that's why. Look, I first of all, he reached 257 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 1: out to us. He wanted to come on. He wanted 258 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 1: to talk to all of you. I respect that. I 259 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:22,079 Speaker 1: would want to talk to all of you if I 260 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 1: were running for office, frankly, at any position, because this 261 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 1: is one of the biggest audiences you can talk to 262 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 1: anywhere in the country. But I asked, I mean, I 263 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 1: think if someone voted for Kamala Harris over Donald Trump, 264 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:38,200 Speaker 1: I would be hard pressed to vote for them for 265 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 1: any office in the. 266 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 5: I think that's a disqualifying judgment call. Yes, I would 267 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 5: agree with that entirely. 268 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. 269 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 5: Again, just to be clear everybody, we're not endorsing that guy. 270 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 5: We have there are rules, there are FCC rules we 271 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 5: had on somebody who's running for that seat. This guy 272 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 5: is running for the seat as well from the Democrat side. 273 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 5: He asked to come on. We're respecting the rules and 274 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:04,560 Speaker 5: fair play. So that's that's where this is. It's not 275 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 5: an editorial judgment either way. 276 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 1: I actually think it speaks well to the growth of 277 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 1: the show that this show has gotten so big, and look, 278 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 1: Rush built an incredible foundation, but the show didn't exist 279 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 1: on podcasts. The show didn't exist on video. We have 280 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 1: to compete in a way in the marketplace that did not. 281 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 5: We have to be every plat ninety we have to 282 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 5: be every platform. Okay, this is not just a radio show. 283 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 5: It's a radio show, it's a podcast, it's a stream, 284 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 5: it's it's video, it's clips that go on everything from 285 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 5: Instagram to TikTok, to Facebook to This is just the 286 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:45,359 Speaker 5: nature of communication these days in the media marketplace. 287 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 2: This is the reality. 288 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 5: So but as it pertains to having democrats on, I'm 289 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 5: gonna tell these guys, I'm gonna tell you. 290 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 2: This right now. 291 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 5: If AOC would come on this show, we would have 292 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 5: her on the show. We would ask her the kind 293 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 5: of questions that should be asked, and maybe. 294 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 2: It would get very contentious. 295 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 5: Maybe if she was respectful, we would ask her questions, 296 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 5: we'd press her on some things. But respect will always 297 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 5: be met with respect here and so I just want 298 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 5: to be clear about that. It's not that we're not 299 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 5: afraid to have democrats on. It's just one, are they 300 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 5: worth hearing from? And two, you know, uh, are they 301 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 5: willing to come on in the first place. That's actually 302 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 5: the bigger one. The bigger problem is to be fair. 303 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 5: Most are afraid to come on. By the way, podcast listener, 304 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 5: what do we just play? We played Josh from Georgia, right, 305 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 5: Terry says, this is el. 306 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 8: That was an interesting interview with Sean Harris. Thank you 307 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 8: for having him on. I wish you would ask him though, 308 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 8: after he was wishy washy on supporting Hakeem Jeffries for speaker. 309 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 8: What Democrat congress person would he consider supporting for speaker 310 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 8: if someone else was running. 311 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna tell you. I mean, that's a fair point. 312 00:15:57,280 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 5: I just want to say, Clay that that again with 313 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 5: respect to the gentleman who called in, and respect to 314 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 5: him who he served his country for forty years. Whenever 315 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 5: you're saying in an interview, I'm not trying to dodge 316 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 5: the question, you're usually dodging the question. So he was like, 317 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 5: he was like, I'm not dodging this. Like, ah, I 318 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 5: think you're kind of dodging. 319 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 1: The reason I do think that question matters so much 320 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 1: is you can be a moderate Democrat, moderate Republican, but ultimately, 321 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 1: when you have basically a fifty to fifty divided government, 322 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 1: who you vote for as speaker or who you vote 323 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 1: for as Senate majority leader. Is this positive, right, and 324 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 1: so he didn't commit one hundred percent of voting for 325 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 1: Hakeem Jefferies, but he also said he'd have to consider 326 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 1: who else was running. I thought that was kind of interesting. 327 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 1: And this is an intriguing race only because there's a 328 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 1: special election. I believe it's in May, and then they 329 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 1: turn around and have the full election in November, which 330 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 1: is a little bit odd because Marjorie Taylor Green dropped out. Now, 331 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 1: David from Alabama, I don't know if he's a War 332 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 1: Eagle or Crimson Tide guy. He's mad cutka. 333 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 8: Did you hear the mass exit of your audience as 334 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:08,920 Speaker 8: he was speaking? 335 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 2: It came right as he said he is a Democrat, 336 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 2: doesn't have I just disagree with this. I mean, I 337 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 2: just totally disagree with this. 338 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 5: I think that this We have way too much respect 339 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:22,680 Speaker 5: for this audience to think that you're you know, people's 340 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:24,919 Speaker 5: ears are too sensitive to hear the words of it. 341 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 5: We play clips from Democrats all the time, and someone's 342 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 5: gonna come on the show who is a worthwhile, whether 343 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 5: it's because they're running in an important race or because 344 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 5: they're important in our national issue. Again, we're not gonna 345 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 5: have random Democrat members of Congress on that no one's 346 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 5: ever heard of. It's a waste of your time. This 347 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 5: guy's running, he's running for a competitive well maybe it's 348 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:47,919 Speaker 5: not competitive, but he's got equal time requirements for that 349 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 5: seat because we had on his competitor. 350 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:50,360 Speaker 2: So there we go. 351 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:53,920 Speaker 1: I will say this, I've been doing radio for twenty years. 352 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 1: No one who has ever said I'm never gonna listen 353 00:17:57,320 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 1: again has ever done it. They always email again two 354 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 1: weeks later and they're like, I'm mad again and I'm 355 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 1: never listening again. This is just a lesson for radio. 356 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 1: Turns out that is in fact usually the case. 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Go 372 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 5: to Saber radio dot com you'll say fifteen percent sab 373 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 5: r e radio dot com. 374 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis Sexton show rolling through the 375 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:06,920 Speaker 1: Thursday edition of the program. We are joined now by 376 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:09,679 Speaker 1: Ann Coulter and Buck and I wanted to have you 377 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:12,399 Speaker 1: on because as we were watching the Supreme Court debate 378 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 1: on birthright citizenship, you probably more than first of all 379 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 1: things are coming on, but you probably more than anyone 380 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 1: out there in the entire media space, made this a 381 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 1: real conversation worth having. And I really believe that one 382 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 1: of the reasons why that debate occurred in the Supreme 383 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 1: Court earlier this week was you. What was your reaction 384 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:38,360 Speaker 1: while you watched it and what do you think, as 385 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:42,880 Speaker 1: a lawyer analyzing lawyer questions is likely to come from 386 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 1: this case? 387 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 9: Well, thank you, and I'm thrilled that it made it 388 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 9: to the Supreme Court. It's sort of a confusing case because, 389 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:56,880 Speaker 9: in simplest terms, the Fourteenth Amendment, as I've said over 390 00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 9: and over again, and anyone vaguely familiar with American history, 391 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:06,400 Speaker 9: the Fourteenth Amendments talk about who is a citizen applied 392 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 9: only to freed slaves. It was about The Supreme Court 393 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 9: held that over and over and over again. And it's 394 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 9: kind of obvious from the history of our country. We 395 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:17,679 Speaker 9: just fought a bloody civil war. All these thirteen fourteen 396 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 9: Fifteenth Amendment added it was all about black Americans. 397 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 6: That's all it was about. 398 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:29,920 Speaker 9: So what happened, and the tricky thing is in Wang Kim. 399 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:31,639 Speaker 6: Arc you've probably heard a lot about. That came up 400 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:32,640 Speaker 6: a lot in the discussion. 401 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 9: The court found that illegal immigrant born in the US 402 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 9: was a citizen. 403 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 6: It shouldn't have held that. 404 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:43,399 Speaker 9: I think the decision was wrong, but it was trying 405 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 9: to correct a ridiculous injustice of the Chinese Exclusion Acts, 406 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 9: which not only forbade any Chinese citizens from entering the United. 407 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 6: States, but apparently re entering. 408 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 9: And this was applied to this to this kid who 409 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 9: had He wasn't a kid who was twenty one years old. 410 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 9: His parents had been living in the United States. They 411 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:09,919 Speaker 9: weren't allowed to become citizens because they were Chinese, but 412 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 9: they were living legally here. They ran a business. They 413 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 9: were here for I don't know twenty years. He was 414 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 9: born here. They went back to China. He continued to 415 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 9: live here in the US, all in San Francisco with 416 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:25,639 Speaker 9: a home, jobs, businesses, and he had gone back to 417 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:27,919 Speaker 9: visitors parents. He comes back again and they won't let 418 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 9: him enter. Now what the Supreme Court should have done, 419 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,119 Speaker 9: I'm sorry. I hope this isn't getting too boring, but 420 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 9: it's very important and it's vital to what John Sower, 421 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:36,200 Speaker 9: This litle Clay. 422 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:37,919 Speaker 2: Is a legal nerd. He's super excited about it. 423 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 1: After I'm actually loving this. 424 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 6: Going okay, good, I'll wrap up the boring part quickly. 425 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:48,120 Speaker 9: What they should have ruled is under the Fourteenth Amendment 426 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 9: they the court had already held, and I think it's 427 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 9: correct in Yi Kuo that you can't the government can't 428 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 9: deprive citizen or resident of life, liberty, or property without 429 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 9: due process of law. It should have been decided under 430 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 9: that part of the Fourteenth Amendment. I think it wasn't 431 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 9: because illegal immigration didn't exist back then. I mean, for 432 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:11,360 Speaker 9: the first four hundred years of our nation's history, we 433 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 9: weren't a welfare state. So you know, you came to 434 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 9: the US and sink or swim. As I described in 435 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:20,479 Speaker 9: natigosam America, about forty percent of immigrants used to go 436 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 9: home because. 437 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 6: They couldn't make it. They'd have to go back to 438 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 6: Italy or back to wherever. So we didn't need rules 439 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 6: on illegal immigrants. 440 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:32,680 Speaker 9: We weren't getting, you know, sinking them in the warm 441 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 9: bath of social welfare. Now we have a big illegal 442 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:39,439 Speaker 9: immigration problem. I was wondering why Soaer was talking so 443 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 9: much about domicile and clearly what he was doing. And 444 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:44,920 Speaker 9: I think the case is clear, and I think he's right. 445 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 9: You read through Wong Art Kim and although the court 446 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 9: was saying, well, he's a citizen instead of saying he's 447 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 9: a resident, and this is you've taken his property. 448 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 6: I mean he has some properties paying rent. 449 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:57,879 Speaker 9: He has a bicycle, he has a coffee machine, he 450 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:01,160 Speaker 9: has clothes that he left here, lived Deer's whole life. 451 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 6: What they were really distinguishing between is. 452 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:07,160 Speaker 9: What I think we all want to distinguish between legal 453 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:11,440 Speaker 9: immigrants and illegal immigrants. They didn't think of it back 454 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:13,360 Speaker 9: then because nobody talked about illegal immigrants. 455 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 6: There were no illegal immigrants. But domicile is basically the 456 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:19,639 Speaker 6: same thing as legal immigrants. 457 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:23,879 Speaker 9: And luckily Blue States with all the residents fleeing to 458 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 9: cheaper tax jurisdictions, they have very strict laws about what 459 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:29,199 Speaker 9: constitutes a domicile. 460 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 6: But you have to be living legally. Oh but baying laws, you. 461 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:40,120 Speaker 9: Can have done nothing to disturb your allegiance to our country. Well, 462 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:42,360 Speaker 9: you know, off the top of my head, illegal aliens 463 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:46,679 Speaker 9: have broken our laws by coming in illegally, residing illegally, 464 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:50,159 Speaker 9: often using illegal social Security cards to say nothing of 465 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:55,160 Speaker 9: you know, rape DUIs running drug cartels. Are they using 466 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 9: fake id's, there's allegedly living in the shadows. Okay, that 467 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:02,199 Speaker 9: is not allegiance to our com So the domicile argument 468 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:06,440 Speaker 9: is just a synonym for legal versus illegal. How did 469 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 9: illegal the children of illegal aliens ever get alleged citizenship 470 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 9: in the first place, Well, the court has never held that. 471 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,679 Speaker 6: The Congress has never passed such a law. It was, 472 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 6: as I describe in a. 473 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:23,200 Speaker 9: Chapter in Adigos America, Justice Brennan gave us anchor babies. 474 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 9: It was a footnote in a Justice William Brennan, lunatic 475 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 9: liberal on the Supreme Court, and I think it was 476 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:32,399 Speaker 9: a nineteen eighty three case. 477 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 6: It was a very recent case. They keep watching. 478 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 9: MSNBC and reading the New York Times and they act 479 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 9: like it goes back to the Mayflower. If you're born 480 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 9: on US soil, Oh no, No, Justice Brennan made it 481 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,119 Speaker 9: up out of hold cloth in nineteen I think eighty 482 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:50,159 Speaker 9: two in pliler Vedo. It was dicta meaning, as you know, 483 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 9: Clay no legal bearing, no other justice signed onto it. 484 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 9: He dropped a footnote saying, I see no difference in 485 00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:58,639 Speaker 9: legal and illegal immigrants. 486 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 6: Well, there's the difference that one's legal and one's illegal. 487 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 6: There's kind of a big difference. So that's really what 488 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:05,399 Speaker 6: we're driving at. 489 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,639 Speaker 9: And that's part of the reason I've been very insistent 490 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 9: that we call the children of illegal aliens and for babies. 491 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:16,119 Speaker 9: This isn't about birthright citizenship, which every. 492 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:16,720 Speaker 6: Headline calls it. 493 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:21,919 Speaker 9: Birthright citizenship is the child born to legal immigrants living 494 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 9: here with our consent. 495 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 6: We have invited them. I mean, I think we've invited 496 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 6: way too many. 497 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:30,440 Speaker 9: Nonetheless, they are here legally, children born on US soil 498 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 9: to legal immigrants are a completely different category from you know, 499 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 9: an eight month pregnant Mexican who runs across the border. 500 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:42,400 Speaker 9: Citizenship shouldn't be a game of red Rover. I bet 501 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 9: I beat you. I'd hidden from from border patrol and 502 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 9: dropped away baby, ha ha ha you. 503 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 5: Can and can I jump in just to ask you 504 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 5: about So you're talking about the crossing over the board. 505 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,159 Speaker 5: By the way, you guys, you can read AND's latest 506 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:58,639 Speaker 5: on this on her substack. But the thing that I believe, 507 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:00,919 Speaker 5: and this came up actually with sour and it was 508 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:03,200 Speaker 5: Justice Roberts, and it was I feel like at the 509 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 5: it was really just Justice Roberts saying, yeah, if this 510 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:07,880 Speaker 5: collapses America and it's the end of us, you know, sorry, 511 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 5: that's the deal. But he's talking about how if you 512 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 5: have people who can come here from China specifically to 513 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 5: game the system where they come here and yeah, they're 514 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 5: probably lying on those forms and there's some laws they're breaking. 515 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:21,880 Speaker 5: Of course, they come here, they have a baby here, 516 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 5: they go back to China, and then at age eighteen 517 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 5: they say, hey, I'm ap plan to UCLA as an 518 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 5: in state US citizen resident in California. Oh and I 519 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:36,119 Speaker 5: want to have my whole family brought in along with me. 520 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 5: So it's like basically a version of the Anchor baby scam, 521 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:41,399 Speaker 5: just run over a different timeline. 522 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 2: How was this supposed to be a country? 523 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:46,680 Speaker 5: If the Supreme Court tells us, which I'm worried they might, Yeah, 524 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,880 Speaker 5: that's totally legit, as American as apple pie, the guy 525 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,440 Speaker 5: who's lived in Beijing for twenty years and spent you know, 526 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:54,360 Speaker 5: his first five days in America. 527 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 6: Yes. 528 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 9: And one of the stunning things that came out in 529 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 9: oral argument was when General old Sour said there are 530 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 9: He was asked how many birth tourism quote citizens there 531 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,439 Speaker 9: are in the US, and he gave some figures its estimated, 532 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:10,919 Speaker 9: and you know, one hundred thousand, maybe more than one 533 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 9: hundred thousand, but he said there are. 534 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 6: Fifty. I think it wasn't five hundred, was it. 535 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 5: So it's five hundred, five hundred, five hundred of these yes. 536 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 9: As I just say it, And I thought that can't 537 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 9: be five hundred birth tourism businesses in China. 538 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,119 Speaker 6: It's utter madness. No country would do this. 539 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:37,399 Speaker 9: The reason I the domicile issue was so big. I 540 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 9: thought it was kind of weird because you've never heard 541 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:42,120 Speaker 9: anyone argue that read Wang kim. 542 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:43,199 Speaker 6: Arka and you understand it. 543 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:47,119 Speaker 9: Domicile is a proxy for legal versus illegal. Oh and 544 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 9: I will also say for your viewers who consume the 545 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:55,200 Speaker 9: mainstream media, I noticed that the media, they've already decided 546 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 9: how the case is coming out. And you know, maybe 547 00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:00,400 Speaker 9: they're right, but as Clay knows, you can never tell 548 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,159 Speaker 9: from oral argument. And in particular, I mean there were 549 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 9: tough questions on both sides. The tough questions for. 550 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:13,200 Speaker 6: Our side, i e. Truth and justice. Liberal commentators take 551 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 6: as well. See they're giving away their positions. They don't 552 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:17,920 Speaker 6: like what sad we're saying. The tough questions for the 553 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:22,440 Speaker 6: other side, they're just testing their arguments. You know, it's 554 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,880 Speaker 6: not the reverse. So the point is you don't know, 555 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 6: we don't know. 556 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 9: It seems to me the most logical answer to this 557 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 9: is to go with the domicile, which as a proxy 558 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 9: for legal versus illegalis does not go back to the Manyflower, 559 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:36,880 Speaker 9: It doesn't go back to the fourteen Amendment. It goes 560 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 9: back to dicta in a footnote and a Justice bread 561 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 9: and opinion from the eighties. 562 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 1: And you have covered the Supreme Court for a long time, 563 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 1: You've watched a lot of oral arguments, listen to them. 564 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 1: Where does Kaitanji Brown Jackson rank when it comes to 565 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 1: least qualified Supreme Court justices of your life? Is there 566 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 1: even someone that you put in a matchup against her? 567 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:05,480 Speaker 1: Because every time we have an oral argument, I just 568 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 1: look around and I'm like, she doesn't even sound like 569 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 1: she has the remotest clue of the issues that are 570 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 1: at stake. 571 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 9: Well, a couple of points on that indirectly answering your question, 572 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 9: but I'm answering your question. One of the interesting things 573 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 9: I thought from oral argument yesterday was the very first 574 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 9: question after General Sower finished his very brief argument came 575 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 9: from the generally silence. Justin's Clarence Thomas and what did 576 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 9: he ask about dread Scott? How does this relate to 577 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 9: dread Scott? Because that's the point the fourteenth Amendment, and 578 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 9: it really annoys me that they applied it to a 579 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 9: Chinese guy when they should have just said your property 580 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 9: has been taken, you're being deprived of life. Well, you're 581 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 9: being deprived of liberty and property without due process, just 582 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 9: being excluded after running a business and owning all this 583 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 9: property back in San Francisco. But like I say, illegal 584 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 9: immigration wasn't a problem, so it didn't really occur to them. 585 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 6: Let's just give away citizenship. 586 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 9: So very interestingly, I thought the one of two black 587 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 9: justices was zeroing in on that point, which is why 588 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 9: I wonder about Katanji Brown Jackson on this. I mean, 589 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 9: doesn't it matter to her that you know the Civil War? 590 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 6: These are post Civil war amendments. 591 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:30,640 Speaker 9: Aren't African Americans getting sick of every immigrant group piggybacking 592 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 9: on their experience in America? As I've said a million times, 593 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 9: all discrimination laws, you should be able to discriminate against 594 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 9: whoever you want, except African Americans. We have carved out 595 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,720 Speaker 9: a special position for them because they got the short 596 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 9: end of the stick for about two hundred years in 597 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 9: this country. I'm not sure if firmative action always works 598 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 9: well yet, and still the idea that they're extending it 599 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 9: to women and gays and disabled no, no, no, no, no no, 600 00:30:55,760 --> 00:31:00,200 Speaker 9: And Katanji Brown Jackson generally two more points on I 601 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 9: will take eight Katanji Brown Jackson's over a single William 602 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 9: Brannan and finally one point in her favor. Interestingly enough, 603 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 9: when the NRA sued New York State for I don't 604 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,320 Speaker 9: know if you remember. They were, of course the New 605 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 9: York State. 606 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 6: They're coming up. They just the attorney general. They are 607 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 6: the one who went after. 608 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 9: Trump was also just trying to Yes, she's just trying 609 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 9: to put conservative businesses or operations like the NRA, like 610 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 9: v Dare the immigration website out of business through WHOA. 611 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 9: Those were the first law fair cases. Katanji Brown Jackson. 612 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 9: I believe she was agreeing that what New York State 613 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 9: had done was outrageous, It was a discriminatory, it was 614 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 9: a violation of their of their free speech rights. She 615 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 9: dropped a footnote saying, I think the case v. Dare 616 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:56,360 Speaker 9: has brought is way stronger than the NRA cases, So 617 00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 9: I give her credit for that. 618 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 5: And real quick, I'm not going to ask you to 619 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 5: weigh in too much on the Pambandi things. We've talked 620 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 5: about it, and I don't know if there's solidarity between 621 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:08,720 Speaker 5: blonde ladies with law degrees or not. But who do 622 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 5: you think? Who do you think should be the next age? 623 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:14,520 Speaker 5: We haven't gotten official word of this yet. Who would 624 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 5: you want to see of the of the possible contenders 625 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:17,960 Speaker 5: that are out there. 626 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:24,719 Speaker 6: Is Dan Bongino a lawyer? But it's my main complaint 627 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 6: with Bonnie. 628 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 9: I mean what I don't what I don't like about 629 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 9: it is if it had been over handling of the 630 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 9: Epstein files, I'd say, way to go, mister president. But 631 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 9: I gather she was following his orders on that. And 632 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:37,960 Speaker 9: I don't know, maybe the media is lying to me. 633 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 9: But if it's just over and not pursuing the revenge prosecutions, 634 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 9: which I think are legit, but it's important, it's not 635 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 9: as important as building the wall, deporting illegals, protecting Americans 636 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,240 Speaker 9: from rank discrimination against white people. 637 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 6: You know, the stuff Trump ran on. 638 00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 2: All right, but who do you want? 639 00:32:58,080 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 9: Then? 640 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,240 Speaker 2: Who do you want? Everyone's listening. Who do you one? 641 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 2: Who would be? 642 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 6: Do I want to Bongino? Is he a lawyer? 643 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:06,480 Speaker 2: I mean the ad. 644 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 1: That's a funny answer. Who Like, let's pretend let's pretend 645 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 1: that you could get you got this pick right, It's 646 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 1: like fantasy draft. Who would be the best possible attorney 647 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:21,720 Speaker 1: general in terms of implementing all the things that you 648 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:23,720 Speaker 1: care about the most? Is there a name? Or you're like, 649 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 1: this person's brilliant, this person's got the tactical skill. 650 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:29,440 Speaker 6: Paul Kassel. He's brilliant. 651 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 9: He's as brilliant as he's one of the top lawyers 652 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 9: in the country. 653 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:35,520 Speaker 6: He wrote. 654 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,760 Speaker 9: The Victims Civil Rights Act that all of the Epstein 655 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 9: I'm victims generally, but Epstein victims sued under He was 656 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 9: the first one to bring that case on behalf of 657 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 9: the Jane does because prosecutors around the country federal it 658 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:50,600 Speaker 9: only applies to federal prosecutors. 659 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 6: Obviously federal law. 660 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 9: They were just striking plea deals with monstrous criminals without 661 00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 9: even alerting the family. I mean, forget the Epstein victims. 662 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:02,280 Speaker 9: All criminal victims were being abused by federal prosecutors. So 663 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:06,040 Speaker 9: Cassell wrote this law and then and then happened to 664 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,800 Speaker 9: notice that all these both in the state prosecution, but 665 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:10,480 Speaker 9: you can't do anything under a federal law. With that 666 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:14,319 Speaker 9: and the federal prosecution. These Epstein victims weren't even and 667 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,360 Speaker 9: these are the original ones, the real ones, the absolutely 668 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:23,840 Speaker 9: uncontestable ones. The deal that alex Acosta struck, they weren't 669 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:26,800 Speaker 9: even notified of. So he's spear hit headed that case. 670 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,480 Speaker 9: He's brilliant. He was not put on the Tenth Circuit 671 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 9: by Bush. He didn't like being a judge, he's a professor. 672 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:37,399 Speaker 9: He's absolutely brilliant. And he also pushed for a long 673 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 9: time to get Miranda over turned right, which and. 674 00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 2: We got it. We were in a herd break, we're 675 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:42,600 Speaker 2: in a hard break. 676 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:44,560 Speaker 5: We gotta go, we gotta go, and you'll have you 677 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 5: back and culter on SUBSTRACTO check it out, Clay. 678 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 1: Thank you, and a few things beat the sensation of 679 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:54,120 Speaker 1: having energy, particularly as we get near the end of 680 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 1: the week. 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We'll start with m from. 700 00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:06,760 Speaker 1: Good Morning Clan Buck producer Ali producer Greg. 701 00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:09,799 Speaker 6: This is Linda from Green Valley. Just wanted to let 702 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:13,600 Speaker 6: you know the autographed cap came today. Thank you so 703 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:17,319 Speaker 6: very much. It's just been such an honor. Thank you 704 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:17,840 Speaker 6: so much. 705 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:20,799 Speaker 5: Well, Linda, thank you for all the Americans that spent 706 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,080 Speaker 5: less time in the airport because of your brilliant idea 707 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:26,320 Speaker 5: and Trump running with it. Fantastic and see hits. See. 708 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:30,359 Speaker 10: This is Stephen Texas commenting on Ali's April Fool's joke 709 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:37,000 Speaker 10: with the puppies. Ellie, ew, that's gross. Come on, puppies 710 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:41,200 Speaker 10: is a sacred line. You don't cross the line of puppies, 711 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:42,880 Speaker 10: the holy line of puppy debarcation. 712 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:43,640 Speaker 7: You don't cross it. 713 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:47,000 Speaker 10: You asked me that Moby dodged a bullet with this 714 00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:48,640 Speaker 10: one oh 715 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:52,279 Speaker 5: A movie shot at the end, Producer Ali, we will 716 00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:54,879 Speaker 5: let you respond tomorrow with your own talkback, or come 717 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:56,120 Speaker 5: on the show that was harsh.