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Speaker 1: You guys doing tremendous.

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Speaker 2: You can't work out this morning?

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Speaker 1: Absolutely.

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Speaker 4: I always gotta stay in shape. You gotta stay in shape.

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Speaker 4: Appreciate you guys being here. Miss your guys a little bit,

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Speaker 1: How's how's the development of the defense? There's gonna be

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Speaker 1: radical changes?

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Speaker 2: Is what?

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Speaker 1: What point are you at as a coaching.

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Speaker 2: Staff right now in terms of preparing for twenty three?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we're I mean we're on it. You know, we've

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Speaker 4: already put together the twenty three playbook. You know, we're

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Speaker 4: a game playing defense like we always talk about, and

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Speaker 4: we're gonna change it up. We have to obviously see

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Speaker 4: what the guys can do during the off season. Uh,

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Speaker 4: some guys will get better, some guys will get worse

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Speaker 4: as far as personnel's concerned. But at the end of

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Speaker 4: the day, like our scheme, uh changes every week.

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Speaker 5: I think last year you drove you didn't have a

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Speaker 2: Do you have a title in business cards?

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Speaker 4: I don't have a title yet and I don't have

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Speaker 4: some things that they allowed me to play that I'm

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Speaker 1: I I was in.

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Speaker 4: I was in some of the interviews during the interview process,

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Speaker 1: So it was good. Gerald.

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Speaker 4: What what was it about this offseason that made you

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Speaker 4: want to forego the opportunities to be a head coach elsewhere.

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Speaker 2: You stay here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a great question. You know.

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Speaker 4: I would say, first of all, my family's here. Second

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Speaker 4: I pretty much was raised here at this point. I

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Speaker 4: came here in two thousand and eight. It would take

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Speaker 4: I want to be and I feel the same way

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Speaker 5: Gerald.

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Speaker 6: Basically, they brought the band back and flying backer, and

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Speaker 6: how can I prove for that unit improve next year.

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Speaker 5: In what ways?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Look, the expectations.

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Speaker 4: We always talk about managing expectations, but at the same time,

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Speaker 1: They're in the scheme. Again.

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Speaker 4: Look, I feel pretty confident about what they're able to do.

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Speaker 4: You know, we have some good athletes at that spot.

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Speaker 6: When it comes to replacing Devin, I think coach pelchicks.

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Speaker 6: You know, you can't replace a player like that with

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Speaker 7: Trot, how would you describe your feelings about your role

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Speaker 1: I'm excited. I'm excited.

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Speaker 2: So your career defensive player and coach. So what was

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Speaker 1: It was great, you know, it was great.

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Speaker 1: But it was great. It was great with with Bill.

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Speaker 4: And now I just look forward to, you know, learner

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Speaker 1: So is it awkward at all?

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Speaker 1: Say hey Bill?

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Speaker 1: He's been an open book and uh, he's been good.

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Speaker 2: Similar question with Steve.

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Speaker 1: You guys work so closely together. How would you describe

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Speaker 4: Look, Steve and I have a great relationship, and I

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there's still a lot that I don't know, and

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Speaker 5: Does it surprise you sometimes maybe some of the things

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Speaker 4: Absolutely absolutely, And that's both on film and also just

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Speaker 1: So I'm excited to have him back.

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Speaker 2: Has he brought some of that energy so far?

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Speaker 4: Absolutely absolutely brings the juice, brings the juice and obviously

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Speaker 7: Yeah, when the average Patriot think comes up to us

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Speaker 4: New England never has roles. I mean, honestly, that's what

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Speaker 2: He's been a little bit of confusion over the years

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Speaker 1: Not at all. Look, Steve's going the place. He's done

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Speaker 4: He's been calling the play since twenty nineteen. I have

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Speaker 4: no complaint or anything like that. Once again, I learned

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Speaker 5: How about this time of year as an assistant coach,

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Speaker 4: I'm telling you all the time, like you're trying to

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Speaker 1: But I love that part of the uh of the season.

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Speaker 2: Do Hendon Hooker tucking look at quarterbacks?

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Speaker 1: I hope you got to ask Bill, like, get me

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Speaker 4: It is a long process for the players, you know,

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Speaker 5: Look at last year, you said something along the line,

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Speaker 2: Don't know why. Yeah, can you elaborate on that? That

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Speaker 4: I mean, you saw the season that he put together

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Speaker 1: He's just a great player.

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Speaker 4: And I would say he's always had great leadership skills.

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Speaker 4: We have great safeties as well, and really, look, this

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Speaker 4: even though Devin made a lot of calls, the linebackers

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Speaker 1: If that makes sense, it isn't.

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Speaker 4: I think it's a combination. But at the end of

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Speaker 4: They have to know that you're confident enough to go

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Speaker 1: It doesn't I mean to me. To me, it's really

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Speaker 4: But at the same time, you know, my mom always

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Speaker 1: During Hope Todays Try.

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Speaker 2: It is the goal still to be a head coach.

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Speaker 4: I feel like I have a lot of work to

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Speaker 1: And that's my mindset. Like I don't think I have.

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Speaker 4: All the answers, but I will say there are more

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Speaker 5: Mister Kraft said that the owners move that there's no

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Speaker 5: how good you can be, and he'd like that to

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Speaker 4: Look, I'll just say I wanna be here. I will

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Speaker 2: You're talking about about growth. So we're asking about titles,

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Speaker 1: You keep talking about growth. Yep.

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Speaker 4: I've I've always studied leadership when I was in college,

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Speaker 1: And that goes back to me wanting to develop the players.

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Speaker 4: That's another reason I love the scout because you can

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Speaker 4: They're dealing with different things, So even having those conversations

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Speaker 6: Talking about Bentley as a linebacker, and I know you

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Speaker 7: So there's no evaluations right now, that's right, But as

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Speaker 4: I would say this, Josh is a very very good

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Speaker 4: Yeah? I spoke with with High Look High and I've

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Speaker 1: There aren't many people.

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Speaker 4: Like High Tower as far as just his smarts. I

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Speaker 4: Very smart football players, right and Uh, and that's Dante.

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Speaker 2: You talked to him at all about getting into coaching

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Speaker 1: I think High Tower will be a phenomenal coach. So

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Speaker 4: When I get a chance to run my own ship,

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