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Speaker 1: Welcome and everybody to Fantasy Pros MLB. This is the

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Speaker 1: Fantasy Baseball Podcast. It is me, Joey p Joepi's APA,

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Speaker 1: and we are continuing on with our Ultimate Guide series.

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Speaker 1: Today we are going to catch her. And there is

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Speaker 1: no better person to talk about the backstops than the

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Speaker 1: guy who wrote them all up in this year's Fantasy

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Speaker 1: Baseball Black Book twenty twenty six, available on Amazon right now.

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Speaker 1: He's the one, the only Casey, Bubba, Bubba. It's so

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Speaker 1: good to see you, my friend. Every year, you do

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Speaker 1: the catcher profiles, you do the relief pitchers for me

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Speaker 1: as well, and of course you host your own podcast.

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Speaker 1: You're a man of many hats and that's what I

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Speaker 1: like the most about you. But unlike a lot of

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Speaker 1: bald guys, you don't wear the hat on the show.

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Speaker 1: You show it proudly like I do. And I just

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Speaker 1: want to say I respect that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So you know, well, you know I was mentored

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Speaker 2: by one bald, bearded, beautiful man at one point in time.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I've learned of many things. And Joe, you'll

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Speaker 2: be there soon enough, don't you worry. At least the

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Speaker 2: bald part. Don't know if I could help you with

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Speaker 2: the rest, but thank you.

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Speaker 1: I heard Arico, I heard a Rico's going quicker, but

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Speaker 1: I never see it because.

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Speaker 2: He's always got the lid. He's always got the lid on.

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Speaker 2: You know, when you first go bald, you kind of

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Speaker 2: try to hide it, but you know. But first, thanks

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Speaker 2: for letting me join you guys. Of course, always always

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Speaker 2: love talking to my boys over here in Fantasy pros Land.

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Speaker 2: It's great to catch up with Joe. I haven't talked

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Speaker 2: to a piece of ps. Sorry to Jose and I

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Speaker 2: piece of P. I haven't talked to you. I haven't

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Speaker 2: talked to you in a while, so it's been great

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Speaker 2: to catch up with you. Joe Alrico, I talk to

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Speaker 2: you often. I still appreciate it, but it's great to

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Speaker 2: get down with both of you.

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Speaker 3: Guys.

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Speaker 2: Have some fun talking catchers with my passion project, all

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Speaker 2: because of years of writing for it at the Black Book.

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Speaker 1: There you go. And of course Joe, Rico and Bubba

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Speaker 1: were hanging out last night doing a live stream together.

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Speaker 1: It ended late Joe, A Rico and out for burgers after.

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Speaker 1: It's like the single guy lifestyle, you know, where he's

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Speaker 1: just I'm just doing baseball drafts and going out for

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Speaker 1: burgers at eleven o'clock. That's that's what kind of road

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Speaker 1: you're living on here. Maybe maybe maybe that's why what's

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Speaker 1: under that hat starting to fall apart. Maybe they take

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Speaker 1: a little bit of carry yourself joy come just saying.

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Speaker 4: Look, everybody who knows my medical history over the last

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Speaker 4: couple of years with the kidney stones, knows that I

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Speaker 4: do not take proper care of myself. But that is,

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Speaker 4: you know, being a single guy, being the bachelor. I

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Speaker 4: definitely need to clean it up, and maybe I will

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Speaker 4: once I get closer to thirty. I turned twenty seven

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Speaker 4: the other day, and once I hit thirty, maybe then

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Speaker 4: I'll start to clean it up.

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Speaker 1: You have the most old man energy of any youth

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Speaker 1: I've ever met in my whole life. I want Andrew

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Speaker 1: Erickson was bad with his dad jokes, but you push

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Speaker 1: it to what you were like on the porch in

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Speaker 1: the rocking chair. It is crazy, bro.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm kind of a curmudgeon. I've become this way

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Speaker 4: from being a Toronto sports fan for the majority of

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Speaker 4: my life and watching teams continually fail, whether it is

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Speaker 4: in the regular season, the first round of the playoffs

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Speaker 4: or in extra innings of the World Series. We're not

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Speaker 4: going to go down that road, but I do want

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Speaker 4: to say before we kick it off, you know, I

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Speaker 4: did watch a movie last night, and it.

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Speaker 5: Was The Goodness Green After the Burgers, After the Burgers.

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Speaker 4: You know, I'm a night owl, and I watched The

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Speaker 4: Natural to pay tribute to the right Robert Duval, and

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Speaker 4: I just wanted to tip my hat to him. One

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Speaker 4: of the absolute greatest actors of all time.

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Speaker 1: Rest in peace, true craftsman, indeed love Robert Duval. Very sad,

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Speaker 1: all right, I don't want to be sad. I want

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Speaker 1: to think about the great career of Robert Duval. Ninety

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Speaker 1: five years old. That's a good run. It's a good run, Joe.

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Speaker 1: He was out there. He's probably running laps, not eating burgers.

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Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna take a breakdown here of the

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Speaker 1: top twelve catchers, and let's start with cal Rawley. Decent

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Speaker 1: season for him, I think we can all agree the

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Speaker 1: first question though, because it's cal Rawley and then everybody else,

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Speaker 1: we all know this. But but for him to return

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Speaker 1: his overall ADP currently where it's at. What's the number

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Speaker 1: of home runs you're looking at for him to hit

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Speaker 1: where you're like, I still feel good about him as

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Speaker 2: For me, I'm probably greedy and wanting forty plus with

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Speaker 2: more bags you need to expect last year, so that helps.

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Speaker 2: He's not a complete loss in that category. But this

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Speaker 2: not going to get sixty home runs again, so I'm

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Speaker 2: wanting at least forty home runs if I'm creeping up here,

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Speaker 2: because there's a enough catchers that are going to hit

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Speaker 2: you probably twenty five. I have thirty plus home runs.

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Speaker 2: He needs to separate himself to be a second round pick.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, sixty home runs one hundred and twenty or four RBI.

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Speaker 1: Now he played in one hundred and fifty nine games too.

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Speaker 1: That's also tough when you're behind the plate so much.

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Speaker 1: Fourteen steals again, very obviously something you're not looking for

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Speaker 1: a lot of catchers to give you. That me so

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Speaker 1: a Rico where in your opinion. If I'm gonna flip

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Speaker 1: this question, would he become a bust as a second

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Speaker 1: basically mean he was not a good investment in twenty

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Speaker 4: I think part of it would, of course depend on

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Speaker 4: one hundred runs and ribbies, I think people would be

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Speaker 4: mostly okay with that. I've personally stayed away from Raleigh.

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Speaker 4: You know, it's generally one of my tenets in fantasy

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Speaker 4: baseball or any fantasy sport. You kind of fade after

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Speaker 4: the massive season and the massive increase in price and

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Speaker 5: You know, we'll get into it.

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Speaker 4: There are so many great catchers, and even just a

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Speaker 4: few years ago, you would really really want to take

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Speaker 4: a guy like Rawley after a year like that, just

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Speaker 4: because the pool was only three or four guys that

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Speaker 4: don't really feel the need to push Rally up the board.

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Speaker 4: I think there's a good chance that he busts, just

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Speaker 4: because repeating that type of season is so incredibly hard.

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Speaker 4: I think even if he does hit thirty homers, drives

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Speaker 4: in ninety scores eighty five, that probably would and if

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Speaker 4: you're looking at, you know, a dollar value, it probably

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Speaker 4: wouldn't be a second round player. You know, other factors

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Speaker 4: would come into play there, of course, but I think

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Speaker 4: that there's a very good chance that he busts this year.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's been a while too. Langelier's Goodman Perez, all

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Speaker 1: guys with thirty home runs last year a catcher and

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Speaker 1: it's been Oh, I feel like it has been a

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Speaker 1: very long time. So we've had that many guys about

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Speaker 1: you got to go back to like the I feel

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Speaker 1: like it's like the Hovey Lopez Mike Piazza era of

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Speaker 1: catchers where he had a bunch of guys hitting thirty

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Speaker 1: bombs right, bubba right, and it gets in the way back.

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Speaker 5: It's called the steroid era.

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Speaker 2: Joe, what I know, you're a fan, your fan, We

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Speaker 2: talked about this many times.

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Speaker 1: Bring it back. Everybody played every week, didn't they? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't remember making nearly as many deals on the

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Speaker 1: IL and dropping players and picking guys up as it.

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Speaker 1: No one injury was then, God no, because they all

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Speaker 1: had this massive o'beaks were so enormous nobody could possibly

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Speaker 1: break them all. Right, So number two was William Contrere's

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Speaker 1: slow start for him. He did pick things up in

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Speaker 1: the second half. Then he have Ben Rice at three,

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Speaker 1: Shay Langliers at four. I want to talk about these

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Speaker 1: two guys here, Bubba. Let's talk about Ben Rice and Langoliers,

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Speaker 1: and I'll put them up for debate. Langliers last year,

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Speaker 1: as I mentioned, did have thirty homers, a good season,

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Speaker 1: plays in a great ballpark, factor at home two in

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Speaker 1: that little Tanny Ballpark for the Athletics in Sacramento, seventy

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Speaker 1: two RBI. He hit two seventy four seven steals. Ben

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Speaker 1: Rice a player that I had the privilege to kind

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Speaker 1: of watch grow up basically uh in the Yankee system

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Speaker 1: around the corner from my house, and I watch him

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Speaker 1: play a lot over the last couple of years, and

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Speaker 1: I knew he was going to be a good major

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Speaker 1: league player. Twenty six homers for him last year hit

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Speaker 1: two fifty five. You know he's gonna play some first

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Speaker 1: base as well. So let's talk about Rice and Langoliers. Currently,

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Speaker 1: Rice is ahead of Langalaires. Do you agree with that ranking?

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Speaker 2: Do I agree with it?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 2: Do I understand why it is?

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Speaker 1: It?

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Speaker 2: Yes, he's getting the he's ahead of Langoliers because he's

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Speaker 2: gonna be the primary first baseman for the Yankees. Now

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Speaker 2: they brought Goldspit in, so there's a slight platoon, but

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Speaker 2: they still said that Rice will play plenty against lefties

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Speaker 2: and he's gonna be the backup to Wells. They're not

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Speaker 2: gonna catch another bring another backup in. So Rice is

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Speaker 2: gonna play a ton And that's one thing you're gonna

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Speaker 2: notice by a lot of these top ADP catchers, a

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Speaker 2: lot of it's playing time. And you mentioned with Rawl

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Speaker 2: he play one hundred and fifty nine games. That's crazy

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Speaker 2: for a catcher. But like a lot of these guys

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Speaker 2: are either going to dch and catch or catch and

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Speaker 2: play first base, like there's Avenue. So that's why Rice

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Speaker 2: gets to love. He gets he's gonna accumulate a ton

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Speaker 2: based on what he does. But in the end, I

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Speaker 2: think Langolier is a better hitter. I think Langoliers if

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Speaker 2: he gets enough playing time via DH or even if

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Speaker 2: I absolutely love Langaliers this year. Nothing against Rice. I

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Speaker 2: The Goose as we like to call him again, lots

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Speaker 2: It's great. Most catchers don't steal bases the goose. The

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Speaker 2: So this is like what we used to love about JT.

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Speaker 2: Maybe not the same batting average, but the skill set

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Speaker 2: is ridiculous. And if you can get you know, four

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Speaker 1: I like the way you put it real Muto without

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Speaker 2: we're not. We're having a different conversation next year.

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Speaker 5: It's where it has been. He cut the chase rate.

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Speaker 5: I'm really curious, Bob, but why is it that you

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Speaker 2: I've been down him for a few years, so check check.

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Speaker 2: point zero comment makes me smile every time because I've

431
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Speaker 2: used that on two Wall shows because it's fricking yeah,

432
00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:04,479
Speaker 2: it's perfect. I haven't heard him ail say it, so

433
00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:07,639
Speaker 2: like to hear someone else a great here's someone agrees.

434
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Speaker 2: Why I'm saying like, okay, perfect, I'm not seeing things here.

435
00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:13,280
Speaker 2: There's a lot of similarities besides this the production. But

436
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Speaker 2: the biggest reason Joe and I don't disagree, Like you

437
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Speaker 2: look at the the quality of contact metrics. You look

438
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Speaker 2: at a lot of the stats. Things are very similar.

439
00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:25,560
Speaker 2: For Addley Rushman, that is great. But what Adley Rushman

440
00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:29,359
Speaker 2: needs to do to be good is accumulate. That's what

441
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Speaker 2: Adley Rushman needs to do. There's this other catcher not

442
00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:36,040
Speaker 2: sure if you've heard of him named Samuel Basaio in Baltimore,

443
00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:39,000
Speaker 2: which the team has flat out said they want him

444
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Speaker 2: to be their catcher at the future. And when Adley

445
00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:43,320
Speaker 2: came back from the IL last year, do you know

446
00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:47,600
Speaker 2: who's still caught games for the Orioles, Samuel Bissio. Now,

447
00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:51,360
Speaker 2: things can change, but I think at best, at best

448
00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:54,960
Speaker 2: we're talking Rushman gets a sixty five thirty five split.

449
00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:57,919
Speaker 2: At best it feels very fifty to fifty or Basil

450
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Speaker 2: might end the season with the plus side of this argument.

451
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Speaker 2: If Adley can't accumulate, he can't produce fantasy goodness at

452
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Speaker 2: that ADP. That's my concern with Advie Rushman. I think

453
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Speaker 2: if he plays another one hundred and fifty five games

454
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Speaker 2: like he did two seasons ago and hit the twenty

455
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Speaker 2: home runs and hit two seventy seven gravy, we're asking

456
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Speaker 2: a lot to make that happen, is my concern.

457
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Speaker 5: That's fair, right.

458
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Speaker 1: The last two guys around out the top twelve, janer

459
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Speaker 1: Diez of Houston and Alejandro Kirk, a good friend of

460
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Speaker 1: Joe Rico. They go out for burgers late at night together.

461
00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:31,359
Speaker 1: I'm sure of it. So again, a pretty strong twelve

462
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Speaker 1: a single catcher league, I think it can wait on catcher.

463
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Speaker 1: I like to do that and get some value. I

464
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Speaker 1: think Will Smith is a good value. He's playing that

465
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Speaker 1: Dodger lineup. He'll always just produce. So if you want

466
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Speaker 1: a guy at cost who's a good value, I think

467
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Speaker 1: Will Smith would be that guy. Some good debates, some

468
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Speaker 1: good guys to pick out two that they love. But

469
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Speaker 1: before we get into the next tier of catchers, I

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514
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Speaker 1: let's get to the next tier of catchers here, starting

515
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Speaker 1: with Ivan Herrera, a guy that I was very high

516
00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:44,679
Speaker 1: on recently too. We know the Cardinals are in a

517
00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:46,320
Speaker 1: rebuild mode, but I think he's a nice player. It

518
00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:48,080
Speaker 1: gives you some batting average, or a lot of catchers

519
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Speaker 1: don't give you some power. Nineteen homers, eight deals last year.

520
00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:55,040
Speaker 1: Next up on the list here, coming in at number fourteen,

521
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Speaker 1: Gabriel Moreno. Then you have Kyle Teeal at fifteen, Samuel

522
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Speaker 1: Bassayo at sixteen. I want to pause you for a

523
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Speaker 1: second on Besios, since you brought him up before Bubba.

524
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Speaker 1: So tell me this Basio in twenty twenty six, what

525
00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:11,879
Speaker 1: does that stat line look like for him in your opinion,

526
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Speaker 1: because you do have Ruschmand there, and I know there's

527
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Speaker 1: a DH spot and we're going to try to move

528
00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:18,440
Speaker 1: guys around. But in terms of I know Basaio last

529
00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:20,960
Speaker 1: year a cup of coffee, thirty one games, not very impressive,

530
00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:23,520
Speaker 1: but we know the minor league track record's good. Let's

531
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Speaker 1: talk about what his upside is to in the current

532
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Speaker 1: landscape of what the Orioles lineup looks like.

533
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Speaker 2: I think a floor we're talking like two fifty to

534
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Speaker 2: fifteen home runs. He's not going to run much, but

535
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Speaker 2: like in that lineup, he could give you at least

536
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Speaker 2: sixty runs of sixty yrby eyes. And I'm shooting low

537
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Speaker 2: because I think he's obviously not playing every day. I

538
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Speaker 2: think I think he probably gets at least one hundred

539
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Speaker 2: games in between DH and catching, and that allows athlete

540
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Speaker 2: to probably get about one hundred in if it all

541
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Speaker 2: shakes out. And that's just the difference. It's like, I'm

542
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Speaker 2: not going to be drafting either Oriole essentially because I

543
00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:56,640
Speaker 2: don't know how it's going to shake out. If one

544
00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:58,520
Speaker 2: had the job would be great. But to your basio question,

545
00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:00,760
Speaker 2: like perfect World of You is a full season. He

546
00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:02,520
Speaker 2: got twenty plus on runs and the guy that can

547
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Speaker 2: hit two sixty, I think it's comfortable at the big

548
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Speaker 2: league level. And now you're talking seventy to eighty runs

549
00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:08,920
Speaker 2: and seventy eighty RBIs like, I think he's that good,

550
00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:10,960
Speaker 2: maybe even more once he gets comfortable in a few years.

551
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Speaker 2: But twenty twenty six, I'd say fifteen armors, two fifty

552
00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:15,400
Speaker 2: flour is kind of where you're looking.

553
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Speaker 1: I will say this too, going right ahead of him

554
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Speaker 1: in the rankings right here, Kyle Teal, if you play

555
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Speaker 1: in OBP leagues, or if you play in two catcher

556
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Speaker 1: leagues with OBP, if you're down with Obeir, Kyle Teal

557
00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:26,919
Speaker 1: is a nice little value, yeah, because that's a guy

558
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Speaker 1: in the minor leagues. He just gets on base. He's

559
00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:30,960
Speaker 1: got a little pop. You know he's gonna he's gonna

560
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Speaker 1: make contact. He's not gonna strike out. I'm gonna kill

561
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Speaker 1: you point leagues either, because he doesn't really strike out

562
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Speaker 1: that much. Kyle Teal, I think is a lot better

563
00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:38,520
Speaker 1: than people realize. I like him as a player too,

564
00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:40,040
Speaker 1: and the more. I watched him in the minor leagues

565
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Speaker 1: before he got called up. I liked what I saw,

566
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Speaker 1: and now it's just a matter of the White Sox.

567
00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:46,359
Speaker 1: He's getting better. Collectively, he doesn't have a whole lot

568
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Speaker 1: of line of protection coming in at seventeen. Francisco Alvarez

569
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Speaker 1: is the next guy, Bubba. I know Teal was one

570
00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:53,000
Speaker 1: of your guys too. You liked to us, So before

571
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Speaker 1: we go to Alvarez, talk to me about TiAl, give

572
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Speaker 1: me your opinion on him too, because I know that

573
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Speaker 1: was a player you were excited about as well, not

574
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Speaker 1: just me.

575
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Speaker 2: I'll keep it kind of brief. Is it's the youth movement,

576
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:04,680
Speaker 2: a catcher we've talked about over the last couple of years,

577
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:07,280
Speaker 2: which powers up. He's the next wave. Obviously came from

578
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 2: Boston in the sale trade. But what I like about him,

579
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Speaker 2: he's kind of a poor man's jtr for me. He

580
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 2: has the ability to get you like fifteen home runs.

581
00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:17,959
Speaker 2: He has the ability to steal ten to fifteen bases,

582
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Speaker 2: but he hits for average NBP on like Goose, so

583
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,040
Speaker 2: he might not have the power of a Goose stinger.

584
00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:25,359
Speaker 2: Ramrez maybe not even steal on that as many bases,

585
00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:27,000
Speaker 2: but you hit for a better average. I get a

586
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:29,000
Speaker 2: two catcher leak. I love to pair those two because

587
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,000
Speaker 2: it gives you such a head start. Having that many

588
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:34,320
Speaker 2: steals from a catching position is crazy. Or if you're

589
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Speaker 2: in a one catcher league. I have zero problem walking

590
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:38,879
Speaker 2: in with Kyle Teel as my catcher. Zero problem. I

591
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Speaker 2: think that's a totally great month.

592
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:44,639
Speaker 1: So we've discussed real Muteo without discussing Real Muto, so

593
00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:46,720
Speaker 1: you might as well bring him up. He is after

594
00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:50,720
Speaker 1: Alvarez here on this list, coming in at number eighteen. Arico.

595
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:53,399
Speaker 1: I was out on Real Muto last year. There's a

596
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:55,000
Speaker 1: lot of things I did not like in the profile

597
00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:56,840
Speaker 1: in the second half of last year that really concerned me.

598
00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:58,440
Speaker 1: The age was starting to catch up to him. This's

599
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,240
Speaker 1: just the natural thing. It's like end of Brian McCann's career.

600
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,720
Speaker 1: Really solid fantasy catcher for years and years, but you

601
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:05,159
Speaker 1: knew the writing was on the wall, and you know

602
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,359
Speaker 1: with the catcher sometimes that decline happens fast. And I

603
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,320
Speaker 1: was very public about my fading of real Muto. Where

604
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:11,879
Speaker 1: are you out with Real Muto? Landing back with the

605
00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 1: Phillies this year again, this is like a deep catcher question,

606
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,479
Speaker 1: because this is not really a single catcher league problem,

607
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:20,440
Speaker 1: even in fifteen team league. So is real Muto guy

608
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Speaker 1: that you just kind of leave alone at this point

609
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:23,400
Speaker 1: or does he have any appeal for you in those

610
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:24,360
Speaker 1: two catcher formats.

611
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Speaker 4: No, I think he's a fine fallback option in two

612
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,440
Speaker 4: catcher formats. If he's your first catcher, I think there's

613
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:31,480
Speaker 4: you've definitely messed up a little bit. If he's the

614
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:33,040
Speaker 4: second catcher, I think it's fine.

615
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 5: Again.

616
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,680
Speaker 4: Another guy where if you you dig below the surface,

617
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:39,240
Speaker 4: it is not like a huge fall off a cliff here.

618
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 4: The barrel rates and hard hit rates have slightly gone down,

619
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Speaker 4: but he's still about a nine percent barrel forty five

620
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 4: percent hard hit ninety average exit velocity is still pretty solid.

621
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:51,639
Speaker 4: You know, the chase and swing swinging strike rates are

622
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,480
Speaker 4: about the same. The contact rates haven't really changed so much.

623
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Speaker 4: I think that he can still give you maybe you know,

624
00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,159
Speaker 4: fifteen home runs. He's still going to chip in some

625
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 4: stolen bases. Even in his bad years. He's not hurting

626
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:04,879
Speaker 4: you in the batting average department. He's a career two

627
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 4: to seventy hitter. He's two fifty seven last year to

628
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 4: sixty sixty year before, so as a fallback option, he's

629
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:12,119
Speaker 4: not a He's not a huge target for me. In

630
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,919
Speaker 4: my own catcher rankings, I have him nineteenth.

631
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:16,640
Speaker 5: So he's just kind of whatever.

632
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:18,960
Speaker 4: Especially if you're in those one catcher twelve team leagues,

633
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:20,399
Speaker 4: you're not going to really have to worry about him.

634
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,000
Speaker 4: But I don't think that he is to be written off.

635
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 4: I don't think that he is going to finish outside

636
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 4: the top thirty or forty catchers this year. I think

637
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 4: he's still you know, he's still fine. You know, he's

638
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 4: not a he's nothing special, but he's fine.

639
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,119
Speaker 1: Arigo, what do you think of Francisco Alvarez. He's been

640
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 1: league for a couple of years, but he's still just

641
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,159
Speaker 1: twenty four. I think people forget how young he is.

642
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 1: We kind of take it, We kind of take for

643
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Speaker 1: granted that he was a big catching prospect, a big

644
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,639
Speaker 1: prospect of the Mets system that you know, came in,

645
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,719
Speaker 1: hit twenty five homers. Okay, cool, we're off to the races,

646
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 1: and then not so good the following year, and then

647
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:51,880
Speaker 1: last year he had that handmapony issue. He came back

648
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,159
Speaker 1: from it, he couldn't hit for any power. Went out

649
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 1: to the minor leagues and then came back and did

650
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 1: look a little bit better after that. Worry about with

651
00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 1: Alvarez because he is so young. I don't want to

652
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 1: give up on them all together. To me, he feels

653
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:04,639
Speaker 1: like the dice roll in the two catcher leagues, and

654
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 1: you're like, hey, if this hits, this guy's at twenty

655
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,440
Speaker 1: five eighty five kind of catcher potentially in that lineup.

656
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, what he showed last year, I'll be at over only,

657
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:15,919
Speaker 4: you know, two hundred and seventy seven played appearances was

658
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 4: a twelve percent barrel rate, fifty four percent hard hit rate.

659
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 4: The average Jason Velosi was ninety three miles an hour.

660
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 4: He looks really, really good now. The contact and swing

661
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 4: and misissues are still there, but he doesn't have to

662
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 4: hit three hundred to return value. If he hits twenty

663
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,160
Speaker 4: five home runs and gives you a two to thirty

664
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,920
Speaker 4: batting average, I think that that's totally fine considering where

665
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 4: he's going. He's about one eighty ADP over the last

666
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:40,920
Speaker 4: couple of weeks. Just looking at online championships on the NFBC,

667
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,439
Speaker 4: which is a twelve team league, I think that he

668
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 4: is again kind of like that fine type of fallback.

669
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 4: The more that I play, especially in the two catcher leagues,

670
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 4: the more I do kind of want to take two

671
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,159
Speaker 4: of them early. I guess it's also just doing a

672
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,119
Speaker 4: ton of shows with Bubba over the years. The catcher

673
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:56,720
Speaker 4: kind of rubs off on you. I want to take

674
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 4: two of the elite names. But if you don't, if

675
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,680
Speaker 4: you don't nail down one of those early names, I

676
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 4: think that you're fine falling back on Alvarez. I really

677
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 4: liked the lineup around him, and I think that the

678
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 4: upside is still thirty plus home runs here if he's

679
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 4: able to stay healthy over a whole season.

680
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 1: Bubba, you got Francisco Alvarez who was twenty four on

681
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:16,119
Speaker 1: the board, and J T real Mioto excuse me, he

682
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 1: was thirty four on the board. Who do you take

683
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:18,640
Speaker 1: between those two guys.

684
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 2: I'm taking Francisco all day. Like you guys, Joey you

685
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,439
Speaker 2: started or joe P. Sapia you started to hit on

686
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 2: it that. I think he is that kind of lottery

687
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:30,160
Speaker 2: ticket in a two catcher league. He showed like actual

688
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,439
Speaker 2: gains last year, kind of how you were off on

689
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 2: JTR In recent years, I've been off on Francisco like, hey,

690
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 2: I believe in you, but you're always hurt. You got

691
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 2: to prove it to me. Sure you got hurt last year,

692
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 2: but it was hit by pitches. I kind of take

693
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 2: it out with the green of salt. We actually saw improvements

694
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 2: at the plate with him, like the quality of contact,

695
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 2: the consistency in the power department, like he showed it

696
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 2: for his full duration even when he kept coming back,

697
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 2: and he made adjustments at the plate. I'm going to

698
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 2: go with Alvarez because you said twenty five, this guy's

699
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 2: got thirty, Like he could hit forty home runs. I

700
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 2: would not be shocked. Goover has ever hit that someday

701
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 2: might not be this year. I think he's got that

702
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 2: in him, which is he is that perfect lottery ticket

703
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 2: you talked about.

704
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 1: That Met's lineup is fascinating to me because you got

705
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 1: all these guys like one year show me kind of deals,

706
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 1: and you got guys like, you know, we saw Viento's

707
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, you know, look like a

708
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 1: thirty home run guy. You saw Baby take a step forward.

709
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 1: You see Alvarez with that potential. Even two of the

710
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 1: three guys like ends up hitting on something this year

711
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 1: it'd be really interesting to see how that all shakes out.

712
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 1: But again, playing time might be tough for some of

713
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 1: these guys too. All right, at number nineteen, you got

714
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 1: Austin Wells, then he got Carter Jensen. I want to

715
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 1: pause here as the twentieth catcher overall, because this is

716
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:39,239
Speaker 1: Joe Rico's target in this range. So Rico, walk us

717
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 1: through your thoughts on Carter Jensen.

718
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I become a really big fan if you look

719
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 4: at what he did throughout the minors. He's giving you

720
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 4: that power speed combination, and he's hitting for batting average

721
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 4: as well. In twenty twenty five, it was one hundred

722
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 4: and eleven minor league games, twenty homers, ten stolen bases,

723
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 4: he hit two ninety. He gets on base a ton,

724
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 4: It was a three seventy seven on base rate, and

725
00:29:58,080 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 4: he got called up twenty games in the bags where

726
00:29:59,920 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 4: we three homers, thirteen percent walk rate, seventeen percent strikeout rate,

727
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 4: and he hit three hundred. Now, again it's a very

728
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 4: small sample size, but he immediately was able to hit

729
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 4: major league pitching ninety five point four average eggs of velocity,

730
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 4: twenty one percent in barrel rate, and a fifty eight

731
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 4: percent hard hit rate will carry over to that degree

732
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,560
Speaker 4: very unlikely. But even if he's able to give you

733
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 4: a thirteen to fourteen percent barrel rate with speed behind

734
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 4: the dish in a lineup that I think is really good. Now,

735
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 4: I don't know how good they are going to be

736
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 4: in terms of actual baseball, but in terms of fantasy value,

737
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 4: I think the Royals are going to be really really

738
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 4: fun Garcia, Bobby Witt, Vinnie p sal Jack Haglio, and

739
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 4: then I think you're gonna have Carter Jensen probably hitting

740
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 4: six in that lineup in a really good RBI spot,

741
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 4: even if it is more of a strong side platoon.

742
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 4: Even if they're not playing him against lefties as much,

743
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 4: I think he's still probably going to pay off close

744
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 4: to his ADP of around two hundred right now.

745
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 1: Rounding out the top twenty four Logan o'happy at twenty one,

746
00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,719
Speaker 1: Ryan Jeffers of twenty two, Dylan Dingler at twenty three,

747
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 1: and ten Tyler Stevenson at twenty four. It's funny, Bob,

748
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 1: but you can go all the way down almost twenty

749
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 1: and still get a guy. Logan Ohapi was capable of

750
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 1: hitting twenty plus bombs that speaks to how different the

751
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 1: catcher profile is right now offensively that it has been

752
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 1: in quite some time.

753
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 2: It's beautiful. And I always joke back to when you

754
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 2: first invited me to the Black Book, like no one

755
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 2: wants to write about catchers because it was horrible, and

756
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 2: just to watch you develop, Like I get excited about

757
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 2: it now because like literally you're like, look, it's not

758
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 2: like half the guys I write about half the guys

759
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 2: are right about It's like it's actually cool. And to

760
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 2: also the point you're making like a happy at twenty

761
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 2: even Stevenson at twenty four, Like I know two catch

762
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 2: the leagues are at bugaboo, but I understand where you

763
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 2: come from. I understand both sides of the spectrum. Do

764
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 2: it makes you guys happy? It's fantasy, but it shows

765
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 2: you the depth of catcher too. Why like a Jensen

766
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 2: or an Alvarez, you can take your chances because there's

767
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 2: so many other options. Now you don't have to like

768
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 2: plant your flag on something crazy. So the depth is

769
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 2: awesome with the catching position.

770
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 1: All right, we are going to plant our flag on

771
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793
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 1: some sleepers here, Joe Rico. We just heard Bubba mentioned

794
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 1: Tyler Stevenson, and that's a player you want to talk

795
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 1: about some more, the twenty fourth getcher in the ranks,

796
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 1: So let's talk about them.

797
00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I mentioned that auction I did last night.

798
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 4: I had wild Bill or King William as my first catcher,

799
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 4: twenty one dollars King William, but then my second catcher

800
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 4: was a three dollars Tyler Stevenson right at the end

801
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 4: of the auction, which I felt really really good about.

802
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 4: He has shown flashes of being able to hit for average.

803
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 4: He has a two eighty six season under his belt,

804
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 4: and in the short stint in twenty twenty two he

805
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 4: hit three nineteen. Now, I don't think he's gonna hit

806
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 4: three nineteen, but I think he can hit somewhere close

807
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 4: to his career mark of two sixty one. He can

808
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 4: hit for power. It was nineteen home runs in twenty

809
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 4: twenty four twenty twenty five. I'm kind of throwing out

810
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 4: he only played half the season he was injured, but

811
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 4: yet when he was on the field, he's still hit

812
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 4: for a fourteen percent barrel rate forty nine percent hard

813
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 4: hit rate, even though below you know, if you look

814
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 4: on the surface, I should say it was a thirty

815
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 4: three percent strikeout rate of two thirty one batting average.

816
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 4: I think people by and large are not terribly interested

817
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 4: in him, but it's still an amazing park. It's a

818
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 4: really really good lineup in Cincinnati where good players may

819
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 4: actually struggle to see the field.

820
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 5: Potentially Sal Stewart. I'm not going to go down that road.

821
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:54,719
Speaker 4: He'll probably play, but we're at the point where we're

822
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 4: having the question if a guy like Sal Stewart is

823
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 4: going to play because of how deep this lineup is.

824
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 4: I think Stevenson is going to play pretty regularly, and

825
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 4: I think we could easily see twenty plus home runs

826
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 4: and at his costs, he is not even in the

827
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 4: top twenty catchers A two seven to seven ADP over

828
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 4: the last couple of weeks.

829
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 5: Is he's free ninety nine?

830
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 1: All right, Bubba, give me a guy who we haven't

831
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:15,880
Speaker 1: even talked about yet, who's a sleeper for you.

832
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 5: Yeah.

833
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:17,839
Speaker 2: I went way down the board just to throw one

834
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 2: out there for people because I agree, like I love

835
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:21,799
Speaker 2: Stevenson and Stevens used to be a top ten catcher

836
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,239
Speaker 2: for Granted Loud, Like how the mighty have fallen? I'm

837
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,399
Speaker 2: gonna go with bow Naylor just to remind people that

838
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 2: we've talked about all these young catchers. Bow Naylor is

839
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 2: only going to be twenty six this year, still very young,

840
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 2: Like there was a time when he was the next

841
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 2: up and coming guy, and it's obviously not been great.

842
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 2: Not great, Bob, is the best way I'll put it.

843
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,399
Speaker 2: We saw fourteen homers one steel last year, buck ninety

844
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 2: five average. That's not going to cut it, But I

845
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 2: did want to highlight just the gains we saw as

846
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 2: the season went along, Like in the first half he

847
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 2: had won seventy one. Second half the year eight two thirty,

848
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:52,800
Speaker 2: Like we're showing some improvements. Five homers in the second half.

849
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 2: Not sure where the speed has gone, that's the big thing.

850
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 2: But in the final month of the year, Naylor hit

851
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 2: two ninety with three three of his five second half

852
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 2: home runs. So like, I'm just looking at the minor,

853
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 2: minor things with Bo Naylor to try to grasp it.

854
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 2: If you're looking for a sleeper. It's the deep sleeper

855
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:14,319
Speaker 2: for this this type of stuff. But it's a guy

856
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 2: that we even saw the strike out rate to drop, Like,

857
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:19,239
Speaker 2: blowed nineteen percent in the second in September, it was

858
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 2: blowed twenty percent for the second half of the season

859
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,720
Speaker 2: after striking out twenty seven percent in the first half.

860
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,280
Speaker 2: So everything improved in the second half of the season.

861
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:28,359
Speaker 2: It's a kid that started to get more consistent playing

862
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 2: time instead of just betuning. He was the guy in

863
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 2: the second half. Maybe he's getting comfortable. There's a lot

864
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,360
Speaker 2: of what ifs. I'm just throwing this out there. He

865
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:37,840
Speaker 2: showed drastic improvements in the second half of the season

866
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 2: that maybe it just took him longer than some others

867
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 2: to develop as a young catcher.

868
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 1: All right, things are going to get real personal here

869
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:47,359
Speaker 1: to say sorry about the bus because Joe Rico has

870
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:48,799
Speaker 1: got a bus. Now do one of those just because

871
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 1: he was mad about you not liking is Adley Rutchman take.

872
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:53,799
Speaker 1: It feels like there might be some passive aggressiveness here.

873
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, Joe Rico talk about why Samuel Bassio

874
00:35:58,160 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 1: might be a bust this season.

875
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:02,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not often that I disagree with Bubba on

876
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:04,800
Speaker 4: a catcher, and I don't feel great about it. It doesn't

877
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 4: give me that warm and fuzzy feeling. But I'm going

878
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:09,400
Speaker 4: to lay out my case for why Bisio is a bust.

879
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,880
Speaker 4: So if you're looking at the projected lineup right now,

880
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 4: he's hitting at the bottom of the order, and when

881
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 4: you look at the names at the top, it's hard

882
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:17,879
Speaker 4: to see Beisaio fitting in anywhere in the top six

883
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 4: or seven names. I think at best he's hitting eighth

884
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 4: to start the year. Maybe he can hit his way

885
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:24,439
Speaker 4: up the lineup a little bit, but I don't see

886
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 4: him hitting in the top third or even in the

887
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 4: middle third of the lineup very regularly. He's not going

888
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 4: to hit against leftiest because the Orioles do have Mountcastle still,

889
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 4: they still have Tyler O'Neill who's on the bench, and

890
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 4: I think that he is going to get the majority

891
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 4: of the DH at bats when it comes against left

892
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:38,880
Speaker 4: handed pitching, and I think there's a good chance that

893
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 4: he'll start playing against righties as well. Basio is still

894
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 4: very young, twenty one years old, and we have seen

895
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 4: the Ools over the last couple of years really slow

896
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 4: play their prospects. They're not rushing guys of the big

897
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 4: leagues and playing them when they're not ready. They've gone

898
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 4: kind of the opposite of that spectrum. They're leaving guys

899
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 4: down even a year longer than most people expect them to,

900
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 4: whether it's Keir Stat or Halay whoever.

901
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 5: It is not really holiday. But there's a lot of

902
00:36:58,080 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 5: examples over.

903
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 4: The last few years of Riols prospects that take an

904
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 4: extra year in the minors. Now, Pisio did get thirty

905
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,319
Speaker 4: one games in the big last year, and it was

906
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,400
Speaker 4: pretty rough. He did hit four home runs, but he

907
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 4: had won sixty five with a two twenty nine on

908
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,239
Speaker 4: base rate. And I don't know that they're going to

909
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:15,760
Speaker 4: shoehornet bats in here for him if he's not able

910
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 4: to hit. And not to say that he's never gonna

911
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 4: be able to hit, but maybe he's not ready quite yet.

912
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 4: You got to remember he's only twenty one years old.

913
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:24,720
Speaker 4: And if he's not ready, they still have Adley Rutchman.

914
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 4: And this is part of why I like Adley Rutchman.

915
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 4: I think if Pisio is not fully ready, then Rutchman

916
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:33,359
Speaker 4: will play more than maybe sixty percent of the time.

917
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 4: I think that there are very good odds that Pasio

918
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 4: is not one hundred percent ready yet and that he

919
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 4: will either be more of a bench bat or, like

920
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 4: a lot of Orioles prospects over the last couple of years,

921
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:44,360
Speaker 4: find himself back in TRIAA for a while.

922
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:47,239
Speaker 1: All Right, So Rico took a shot at Bubbas, and

923
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 1: now Bubba you get to take a shot at me.

924
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:50,799
Speaker 1: I mentioned before that Will Smith was a guy felt

925
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:53,439
Speaker 1: really good as a value play. But you don't really

926
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 1: care for him, now, do you.

927
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 2: To be fair, I didn't put Rushman as my bus

928
00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:00,359
Speaker 2: because I read the outline was being respectful. I will

929
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 2: Smith was on this either. But Will Smith is a

930
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 2: guy that I've had a beef with for years because

931
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 2: he used to be a top five eighty p catcher.

932
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:10,720
Speaker 2: He's ninth now, so I'll say the price is getting

933
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 2: more palatable with Will Smith. Sure, But with Will Smith

934
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 2: he had a great year last year, two ninety six average,

935
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,360
Speaker 2: seventeen overs, one hundred and ten games. That's a problem.

936
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,400
Speaker 2: As we talked about catchers need to accumulate for the

937
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 2: most party to play games, and the reason why not

938
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:28,400
Speaker 2: just injuries. There's this guy he really good at baseball

939
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 2: in LA that plays DH, which means, yeah, there's no

940
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 2: room at the end for Will Smith to DH. That

941
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:38,400
Speaker 2: will cut into playing time. So he has to stay healthy,

942
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:40,879
Speaker 2: has to stay healthy, very difficult for catchers. All's gonna

943
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 2: be thirty one, one of the oldest catchers we've talked

944
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 2: about on the entire show, which says a lot. And

945
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 2: I mentioned the two ninety five last year. Prior to

946
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 2: that two forty eight, two sixty one, two sixty, two

947
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 2: fifty eight, he's more of a two fifty five, two

948
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:53,440
Speaker 2: sixty hitter, which is still good. That's fine. But if

949
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:55,880
Speaker 2: he's gonna get two fifty five, get you fifteen to

950
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:59,320
Speaker 2: twenty home runs depends on games played. He really really

951
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 2: has to max of ice things to make it work.

952
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 2: There's there's a lot of what if and Will Smith

953
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 2: that always concerns me. And he's a great player. I

954
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 2: think he's more of a Jade's yard than a top

955
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:07,800
Speaker 2: five catcher.

956
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 1: All right. That brings us to the must have guys,

957
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 1: which is funny because Joe Ricos must have guy is

958
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 1: Will Smith. Let's go, wow, I love this. I told

959
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 1: you I was gonna get personal the endre This.

960
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 4: Is great, all right, So here's my case for why

961
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:23,240
Speaker 4: I really like Will Smith.

962
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:26,919
Speaker 1: Well, it's gonna be two against one, Bubba. I'm sorry, buddy.

963
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 1: Go ahead, Rico, you got the floor.

964
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 5: Now.

965
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 4: Look, Will Smith ended my team's season in brutal fashion.

966
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 4: So the read I'm going.

967
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 1: Out on my and you I'm still picked and I

968
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:41,400
Speaker 1: sound amazing and you still get him. Anyways, Will Smith's.

969
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 2: A shortstop preview Miguil Rojas or how are we going

970
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 2: about this?

971
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:50,279
Speaker 1: Joe Rico is all business. It's never personal. Okay, that's

972
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:51,359
Speaker 1: how Jo Rico rolls.

973
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:54,360
Speaker 4: That's a Godfather quote. Another rober Duvall tribute. Let's go

974
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 4: all right, Will Smith. Before Otani got there, if you

975
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 4: look at twenty one twenty two, you know you're looking

976
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 4: at five hundred plus played appearances in those seasons.

977
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 5: I think even with.

978
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 4: Otani there in twenty twenty four, it was five hundred

979
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,239
Speaker 4: and forty four played appearances. So that's kind of been

980
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 4: the baseline, with or without Otani. Last year he ended

981
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,240
Speaker 4: up missing almost I think an entire month the season.

982
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 4: It was the end of the season because of the

983
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 4: hand injury, and he was kind of it wasn't even

984
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 4: starting to begin the playoffs. I think they adult and

985
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 4: rushing behind the plate to begin in the playoffs. But

986
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 4: I think if he's healthy, and again that is a

987
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 4: question mark for everybody, But presuming that he doesn't have

988
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:33,319
Speaker 4: the hand issue, I think he can get you to

989
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:35,839
Speaker 4: one hundred and thirty games with five hundred and fifty

990
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 4: played appearances, give you twenty ish homers. I agree with

991
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 4: Boba that you're not getting a one to fifty three

992
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 4: WRC plus or anything close to it, but one twenty five.

993
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:46,280
Speaker 4: You know, if he's hitting two sixty with twenty five homers,

994
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 4: that lineup is just absolutely ridiculous. The guy's hitting in

995
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 4: front of him are projected to be Otani, Bets, Tucker

996
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 4: and Freeman, and then Smith hitting five. I mean maybe

997
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 4: they mix and match with ta Oscar Munsey a little

998
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 4: bit there, But prime RBI spot he's cheaper than he

999
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:04,400
Speaker 4: usually is. If you're looking at NFBC data, he's outside

1000
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,760
Speaker 4: of the top one hundred picks as the ninth catcher.

1001
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 4: I think that the value is there for Will Smith

1002
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 4: or about thirty picks later than usual. I think he's

1003
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 4: usually about seventy or so ADP the last few years,

1004
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 4: so I'll take a little bit of a discount there

1005
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:19,360
Speaker 4: and be pretty happy with him as my first catcher,

1006
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:21,359
Speaker 4: or maybe if I go for an early guy, then

1007
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 4: take him as my second catcher in this corner the position.

1008
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 1: I still like him a little bit later than his

1009
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 1: overall ODP, which is right around one hundred overall in

1010
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 1: the consensus ADP. I would still take Uri Perez over him.

1011
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:33,880
Speaker 1: I would definitely take Nolan McClain over him. Those are

1012
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 1: two players right around there. But after that, I think

1013
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 1: it's up for discussion. You know, some other guys were

1014
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:41,239
Speaker 1: like raysil Iglesias, is no way I'm taking help over

1015
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 1: will Smith. You know, me and closers and we don't

1016
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 1: get along. Like I'm just not going to do that,

1017
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:48,359
Speaker 1: So Baba, give me your must have. And maybe it's

1018
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 1: a player. Maybe it's a philosophy when it comes to catchers,

1019
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 1: since you are the.

1020
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:54,359
Speaker 2: Guru of it. Yeah, it's more I wanted to put

1021
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 2: a bow tie on. Most of this is I'm not

1022
00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 2: super picky early on. Like Joe's mentioned a few times,

1023
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 2: I do a lot of two catcher leagues, so I

1024
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 2: still want one of the top like seven eight guys

1025
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:06,840
Speaker 2: that we've talked about today. So I'll leave with a

1026
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 2: lot of King William Contreras. We talked about the Gooses loose.

1027
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 2: I like him. There's a lot of good men. I

1028
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 2: like Baldwin. I want one of those guys. It's just

1029
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:18,279
Speaker 2: a stable, steady guy. I'll rarely ever pay for cal

1030
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 2: Rawl just because the price is too high for me.

1031
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:22,799
Speaker 2: If you're in a one catcher league, though, Like if

1032
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 2: you're talking must haves, I almost find it's it's not

1033
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 2: a must have, it's what's your last one is what

1034
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 2: you want to in a one catcher league, I wouldn't

1035
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 2: force your hand in a one catcher league. We talked

1036
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 2: about a lot of guys that we'd be like Francisco

1037
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 2: Overs has the upside to go Nuts. We talked about

1038
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:40,280
Speaker 2: a few others and like Kyle Teal, like I mentioned,

1039
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:42,279
Speaker 2: I would love to have him. I guess if I

1040
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 2: had to pick one must have, Kyle TiAl is my

1041
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 2: most roster catcher so far, like the eleven drafts I've

1042
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 2: already done, I love Kyle Teals. So if you want

1043
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 2: to go that round a couple league, like poor Man

1044
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 2: jtr I'm a huge fan of him, So I'd say

1045
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:56,320
Speaker 2: just more so have a strategy going in because prices

1046
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 2: are inflated at catcher and just kind of know where

1047
00:42:58,960 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 2: your baselines are as well.

1048
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 1: Go with that. Yeah, that compression with the two catcher

1049
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 1: league really just changed the dynamic of the ADP substantially.

1050
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 1: In the single catcher league, you'll see you know, Ralo

1051
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 1: go Lang Layers ago, and then there's gonna be like

1052
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 1: a quiet period of catcher. Let it come to you,

1053
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 1: because the worst case scenario is you take a Teal

1054
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 1: n A Alvarez and you hope that you get what

1055
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 1: you need out of that one spot via both of them,

1056
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:22,400
Speaker 1: where you play the hot hand or you figure it out.

1057
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 1: If Alvarez ghoes stone cold, well you got the steady

1058
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 1: Yeddi guy who might lack ceiling. But if Alvarez hits

1059
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 1: or another one of these guys hits out of nowhere,

1060
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:32,840
Speaker 1: then you could sit Kyle Teal who's a little safer,

1061
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 1: and play the guy who's got the big upside. So

1062
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 1: great breakdown from the guys here on the catchers again.

1063
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:39,840
Speaker 1: You can see the consensus ranks and ECR the Expert

1064
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 1: Consensus Rankings over at Fantasy pros dot com, and make

1065
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:45,279
Speaker 1: sure that you continue watching all the guide shows. Here

1066
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 1: we got the starting pitcher guides coming up next week.

1067
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 1: Those are gonna be hot. We got the outfield guy

1068
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Speaker 1: coming up soon too. They're all here on our YouTube channel.

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Speaker 1: They're all here on the podcast feed to get you

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Speaker 1: caught up on everything you missed this offseason and what

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Speaker 1: the approaches should be and what your approaches could be

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty s. And of course, if you want

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Speaker 1: more insights, you can check out all these guys work

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Speaker 1: on Fantasy Pros and in the Fantasy Baseball Black Book

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty six, Joe Rico's doing his write ups in there.

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Speaker 1: Bubba writes up all the relievers and all the catchers too,

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Speaker 1: so the real full breakdowns are all there. You can

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Speaker 1: also check him out on the social media side as

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Speaker 1: well at b Den Trek, but also Bubba Bloom Pod.

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Speaker 1: That's what you got, Bubba in the Bloom. It's good

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Speaker 1: times there, Baseball HQ. Bubba's everywhere, man, He's all over

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Speaker 1: the place, and that's why I love him. Bubba is

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Speaker 1: great to catch up. Appreciate you taking the time with

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Speaker 1: us to talk about the men behind the plate, because

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Speaker 1: they don't get enough love. And it's nice that finally

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Speaker 1: we got some guys we're swinging the bats a little

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Speaker 1: bit more. Huh. Yeah, it's nice to change it.

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Speaker 4: Pa.

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Speaker 2: It's actually fun.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's actually fun. Joe Rico, You're always fun. We

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Speaker 1: love having you here on the show as well. That'll

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Speaker 1: do it for us, But the story of the game

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Speaker 1: goes on for Bubba and a Rico. I'm Joey P.

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Speaker 1: We'll see you next time. Kids.

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