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Speaker 1: Talking Cowboys. It is not Isaiah stand Back, it is
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Speaker 1: triumphant Talking Cowboys return of Brian broad Us on the show. Brian,
Speaker 1: how's it going. I am doing great, Kyle. It is
Speaker 1: nice to be with you and Nate. Every time I
Speaker 1: work with Nate, I think about a story if I
Speaker 1: could tell it real quick, Okay, Nate and I One
Speaker 1: time we're doing a Cowboys postgame show. I think it
Speaker 1: was after San Diego Thanksgiving. They played awful and Lindsey
Speaker 1: Draper was the host at the time, and she took
Speaker 1: the break and I was saying I was just going off,
Speaker 1: and I was when I when I get around Nate,
Speaker 1: I tend to just go off on things. And I
Speaker 1: went off on something about the game went to break
Speaker 1: and Nate looked at me and goes, you're trying to
Speaker 1: get fired, aren't you. He was brutal, and I looked
Speaker 1: at him and I, uh, I go uh, I'm not wrong,
Speaker 1: am I? He goes, no, you're good. So yeah, it's
Speaker 1: it's great to be with you and Nate again, thank
Speaker 1: you for making me. Let me be a part of this. Yeah. No,
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a lot of fun. And of course,
Speaker 1: without a further intro, I mean, you've got time pro bowler,
Speaker 1: three time Super Bowl champ Nate Newton on the other side. Nate,
Speaker 1: how's it going with you? Great? I'm great man. I
Speaker 1: like getting up early, you know, getting out of the
Speaker 1: way right. I like doing early shows. I like just
Speaker 1: bouncing that way. You can go home and do other things. Man,
Speaker 1: have phone with the wife and all of those things
Speaker 1: that entails work the phone for that trade deadline stuff. Yeah. No,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of different topics that we could hit
Speaker 1: this week. It's a good week for a bye week.
Speaker 1: Shake up because sure right smack dab in the middle
Speaker 1: of the season. The trade deadline hits today at three
Speaker 1: o'clock Central time. Nate's got his Black Rifle Coffee Company.
Speaker 1: We're ready to go. Brian's got his Black Rifle coffee too.
Speaker 1: So let's get into it a little bit, because first off,
Speaker 1: I want to get your thoughts since we haven't heard
Speaker 1: it on this show, specifically on Sunday's win, and then
Speaker 1: we'll talk into the trade deadline. But Brian, when you
Speaker 1: look back on how the Cowboys got there forty nine
Speaker 1: twenty nine win over the Chicago Bears, how would you
Speaker 1: classify their performance and what they were able to do
Speaker 1: this past Sunday. I've been super critical on this platform,
Speaker 1: which is great to have. And then also one three
Speaker 1: the fan of Kellen Moore throughout the year, and you know,
Speaker 1: talking about creativity using players much like Dan Quinn and
Speaker 1: the defensive coaches use their guys like Kellen Moore. And
Speaker 1: the staff really figured out some things the other day
Speaker 1: and I was all about that. I was all about, Hey,
Speaker 1: let's get these receivers on the move, Let's create opportunities, separation,
Speaker 1: big swinging motion, you know, to cede lamb up the sidelines,
Speaker 1: puts the corner in a bind, puts the safety in
Speaker 1: a bind. You know, route combinations, all these things that
Speaker 1: you've kind of been asking for when you watch the games,
Speaker 1: because you watch other NFL games and you're going, how
Speaker 1: are they getting their guys so open? And you know
Speaker 1: you've got just as talented guys as other teams around
Speaker 1: the league. But I thought this was one of those
Speaker 1: games the first fifteen that Kellen Moore had a thought,
Speaker 1: we're outstanding. I said, well, let me see his next fifteen.
Speaker 1: His next fifteen were just as good. So you know,
Speaker 1: when you have to be critical and you also have
Speaker 1: to be fair about it. And I thought he did
Speaker 1: a great job with the game plan. I thought it
Speaker 1: was executed well. About the quarterback, it showed what a
Speaker 1: week of practice for him, what that meant. And also
Speaker 1: though it also saw in defense their depth was really
Speaker 1: stretched in that football game. You know, Makuamu, Bell, Clark,
Speaker 1: guys playing in that game trying to stop a defense
Speaker 1: or excuming an offense. That's really really was committed to
Speaker 1: run in the football in a lot of different ways. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's committed, true commitment. Yes, what did you think about
Speaker 1: the game. I just didn't think they would do that
Speaker 1: in a matt Era Flus defense. I just, you know,
Speaker 1: I like what they did. You know, you guys, you
Speaker 1: hear me off. I'm just moaning about that one pass. Yeah, interception,
Speaker 1: that one that one pass, because I believe in winning football.
Speaker 1: Don't start when the playoffs started. Whinning football starts and
Speaker 1: he bills all year long as that one pass kind
Speaker 1: of word me. But other than that, Brian, you are
Speaker 1: spot on and what you're saying. I mean, they did
Speaker 1: what they needed to do. They made play out the play,
Speaker 1: and I liked it. I mean, you was excited this
Speaker 1: past weekend. You forty Burgers and I hope you got
Speaker 1: everybody they water Burgers did, got it all done. I'm
Speaker 1: excited as long as we don't show that one bad
Speaker 1: play that can hurt us down the road. As long
Speaker 1: as we don't show that. I mean, interceptions happen, fumbles happen,
Speaker 1: but that's not that's not hurt our defense. Because what
Speaker 1: that play did was hurt our defense. It put them
Speaker 1: back on the field, and then coming out of halftime
Speaker 1: and put them back on the field. Don't hurt your defense.
Speaker 1: This is your bread and butter our defense averaging thirty
Speaker 1: two minutes or game, and you wonder why we're banged up.
Speaker 1: That is the reason. So when you're talking about that
Speaker 1: interception right before the half, you're about right around in
Speaker 1: a minute. I guess there's a little order of minutes
Speaker 1: to drive down the field and try and put your
Speaker 1: offense continuously on the board, because at that point they
Speaker 1: had scored on all four of their drives. Is that
Speaker 1: aggressive play call what you're worried about. Is that that
Speaker 1: type of play calling or is it just the execution
Speaker 1: of if you're going to run an end route like that,
Speaker 1: a kind of deep D route like that, one thing
Speaker 1: you'll receiver has to say in his mind either I
Speaker 1: am catching it, no one's catching it. You can't be lilligagging.
Speaker 1: You got to be dedicated to this calls. Am I
Speaker 1: correct Ryan? Absolutely? And so when this don't happen and
Speaker 1: you throw your defense back out there, it's just don't
Speaker 1: you don't. That's not aggressive, that's not if your coach
Speaker 1: is gonna swinging the bat for you. Hey, hey, coach,
Speaker 1: I'm going to call this play. It's gonna be kind
Speaker 1: of deep over the middle. I know we haven't had
Speaker 1: success there. We're trying to open up something in the game.
Speaker 1: Coach McCarthy, you don't know to have his head says something.
Speaker 1: But if he did, he's like, all right, everybody's gotten
Speaker 1: to I want to do the thumb up. Everybody's gotten
Speaker 1: the thumb up. I guess what. Yeah, it didn't work.
Speaker 1: You gamble and and I'm not and I'm not going
Speaker 1: to go into this better team and all of that. Sure,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying. Smart football doesn't start when the playoffs start. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it starts doing the whole year. You know. It's funny
Speaker 1: in Nates, right. I mean, I'm thinking they haven't stopped
Speaker 1: you yet. That's kind of what I was thinking about.
Speaker 1: But when you look at it from the defense's perspective,
Speaker 1: he's absolutely right about that, especially against a team that
Speaker 1: you know, it was just running the football, and the
Speaker 1: Cowboys have been put in some bad sudden chains situations
Speaker 1: before that. You know, well they've had some They've had
Speaker 1: a couple of bad punts that put them teams on
Speaker 1: the other side of the fifty no points, and for
Speaker 1: them to get the ball again on your side of
Speaker 1: the fifty and give up only three points. I think
Speaker 1: It says a lot about that defense and the heart
Speaker 1: that they played with because that defense, that that was tough,
Speaker 1: that that that offense with those backs, that offensive line
Speaker 1: is not great that they have, but what they've figured
Speaker 1: out is like, listen, we know they can't pass block,
Speaker 1: but we know they can run block. And you're dealing
Speaker 1: with a quarterback that can run like he does and
Speaker 1: running backs like they have. That that's a different animal
Speaker 1: that you're playing against right there. And to finish the
Speaker 1: game the way they did, I tip my hat to
Speaker 1: him because that that wasn't going to be an easy
Speaker 1: assignment at all. And you know, Nate's right me. I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: they haven't stopped. You go for it. And then when
Speaker 1: they throw the interception and you don't see the receiver
Speaker 1: coming across, you're going, Okay, I'm an idiot for thinking that.
Speaker 1: But the bigger, the bigger point is Nate's right about
Speaker 1: the defense. Don't put the defense in harm's way even
Speaker 1: though they're capable of stopping harm, especially in the game
Speaker 1: like that where they're worn down pound after pound, run
Speaker 1: after run. You get forty seven rushing carries against you,
Speaker 1: your defense is going to wear it down. So kind
Speaker 1: of going back to what you were just saying, how
Speaker 1: tough is it for a defense specifically whenever they face
Speaker 1: a team like that that's going to abandon the past,
Speaker 1: to run the football, to slow down the run even
Speaker 1: though you know what's coming, but you still can't slow
Speaker 1: it down. The thing that bothered me the most about
Speaker 1: this Cowboys defense through the first eight weeks was the
Speaker 1: Philadelphia final drive when they ran the ball ten straight
Speaker 1: plays that because that was your strength verse them there,
Speaker 1: what they determined was going to be their strength and
Speaker 1: running the ball, and so it now it's one of
Speaker 1: those things where you look at it and you say, okay,
Speaker 1: where are the issues on this Cowboys defense? If you're
Speaker 1: going to attack this defense, what do you do well?
Speaker 1: Running the football would be where I would start, And
Speaker 1: a lot of it is and I know you guys
Speaker 1: all watch the All twenty two. I don't think it's
Speaker 1: scheme and I don't think it's ability. I think there's
Speaker 1: sometime times where this team, you know, and when they're
Speaker 1: playing run defense, whether they they go out of lanes.
Speaker 1: You know, we interview Tank Lawrence on a He's got
Speaker 1: a weekly show with us on one oh five three
Speaker 1: and He talks about lanes, gap integrity, things like that.
Speaker 1: You know, if you're if you're responsible for the width
Speaker 1: of you know, contain and you spin inside and all
Speaker 1: of a sudden it's a free corner, and then there's
Speaker 1: a big play that's a that's bad if you all
Speaker 1: of a sudden decide, well, I'm going to take a
Speaker 1: bad angle again and now it's another outside play, or
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go too wide and let them block me
Speaker 1: out of the play. You know, um on the film,
Speaker 1: we all saw this fourth and one. They had an
Speaker 1: opportunity and I hate to I'm just I know they're
Speaker 1: winning games and yeah, but I'm I'm talking about it.
Speaker 1: You know, if you if you're thinking about issues fourth
Speaker 1: and one, they had an opportunity in that game to
Speaker 1: get a stop. They slant the right way, they got
Speaker 1: everything kind of buttoned up. But your corner, you know,
Speaker 1: he's unblocked, and if he just comes down, then you
Speaker 1: got to stop, and now the defense is off the field. Instead,
Speaker 1: the corner gets you know, doesn't make the play, and
Speaker 1: now it's the first down and now you're keeping drives going.
Speaker 1: This is the only thing I think that really hurts
Speaker 1: this defense and I don't think it's scheme and I
Speaker 1: don't think it's their ability. I think it's sometimes they
Speaker 1: have this mentality of get up field, get up field,
Speaker 1: make a play, so just go rush a passer and
Speaker 1: stuff like that. Effort and discipline is that kind of think.
Speaker 1: I think it's not the effort, it's the I think
Speaker 1: it's the I think that at times it's like I said,
Speaker 1: you could watch. You could watch a guy like Dorian's
Speaker 1: armstrong responsible for the width and then he takes a
Speaker 1: rush inside and then after the play you see him
Speaker 1: kind of hang his head knowing that, oh I made
Speaker 1: a mistake there, you know. And that's I think that's
Speaker 1: the biggest thing. You know, this defense when and teams
Speaker 1: have figured out a little bit and running the ball
Speaker 1: about the crack, the crack, toss, the get the ball
Speaker 1: to the perimeter. They figured out it's easier to block
Speaker 1: Micael Parsons when you can shield him or down block
Speaker 1: him as opposed to taking him head up. Tampa Bay
Speaker 1: did it a lot. Yeah, that's where it started. This
Speaker 1: is where this is where our superpowers have turned into
Speaker 1: a curse because the coach gives them the authority saying
Speaker 1: if you see a play if you can make you play,
Speaker 1: but they are forgetting to make the play. See whereas
Speaker 1: Jimmy had the same philosophy, coach wants they had the
Speaker 1: same philosophy. But if you blow that chance to make
Speaker 1: that play, then you for the next ten or twelve
Speaker 1: plays have to just play assignment football. Our guys are
Speaker 1: like Ulsa, he's a he's a penetrator. We've had Zeus
Speaker 1: talk about that, Isaiah talk about that a lot. But
Speaker 1: when you penetrate, you still have a gap responsibility and
Speaker 1: some and then instead of going up the field, he'll slam. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he'll go too far out because he he wants to
Speaker 1: make a play. When we get into the Philadelphias again,
Speaker 1: the the news again, and you play your responsibility and
Speaker 1: I know sooner or later and they're over there and
Speaker 1: they're gonna say, you know what, coach, we like what
Speaker 1: we're doing. But when we face the team that's equally
Speaker 1: good talent wise, coach wise, we don't want the Philadelphia
Speaker 1: thing again. Yeah, you can't have that. And that's why
Speaker 1: I say smart football don't start in the playoffs. It's
Speaker 1: all year long, and we gotta kind of ring back
Speaker 1: because parts Parsons his rookie year, he was great against
Speaker 1: the run. Now Parsons like, I'm going to get that
Speaker 1: man in that backfield. So well that it happened, and
Speaker 1: we watched it. You know, we've when you watched y'all
Speaker 1: twenty two again. Year a situation where Tank is like,
Speaker 1: here's Fields, He's they're kind of he's drifting as a
Speaker 1: he's drifting to throw the ball and his eyes are
Speaker 1: to the left, and he keeps drifting and drifting and drifting,
Speaker 1: and Tank is taken an angle to catch him drifting, yes,
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden it's like Fields is like,
Speaker 1: oh no, this guy's about to punish me. And he
Speaker 1: gets out and now there's nobody on that side. But
Speaker 1: it's not I mean, it's he's rushing the passer. But
Speaker 1: Tank will tell you that his angle was probably a
Speaker 1: little steep, but to handle the pass rush, he had
Speaker 1: to go that steep. It just happened that You're you're
Speaker 1: playing a quarterback that's pretty rare with the mobility and
Speaker 1: stuff like that. You're not gonna play a lot of
Speaker 1: guys like that, but especially the next two weeks. You know,
Speaker 1: Rogers can move around a little bit. Cousins can move
Speaker 1: around a little bit, but not like what that guy
Speaker 1: in Chicago can. Cousins turned on the gas a little
Speaker 1: bit this pass way. Did you see that sound run
Speaker 1: where he kind of got to the edge, turned on
Speaker 1: the jets and got in the end zone. Showed a
Speaker 1: little bit of something there. Yeah, nobody's like Justin Fields
Speaker 1: or Jalen Hurts. I mean, those are the two guys
Speaker 1: that you're gonna face all year that are gonna give
Speaker 1: you problems. The new buzzword in NFL is stress. Yes,
Speaker 1: everybody's telling the words stress, and Mike McCarthy says it
Speaker 1: quite a bit the amount of stress you put on
Speaker 1: the Cowboys offense. Put a lot of stress on the
Speaker 1: Bears the other day. Three wide receiver, three tight end packages,
Speaker 1: no huddle, don't let them substitute. You know, big personnel
Speaker 1: on the field and now they're running plays and they're
Speaker 1: wide open. You know they can't defend. That's that's kind
Speaker 1: of stress you need to put on people. I like
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Speaker 1: do your pregame shows out there, right, we do. We've
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Speaker 1: be back out there, you know, with the pandemic and
Speaker 1: all that, and getting to see people and the fans
Speaker 1: and stuff like that, and uh, you know, to really
Speaker 1: be in that firsthand. A lot of folks coming through
Speaker 1: those gates over there, and you know, a lot of
Speaker 1: the the last couple of weeks, the Detroit fans have
Speaker 1: been fun. The Bears fans have been fun, and all
Speaker 1: the Cowboy fans had stopped by and say hello had
Speaker 1: been great too. That's a lot of fun. You guys
Speaker 1: were up in the booth during COVID, right You were
Speaker 1: still in the boy we were actually we were during
Speaker 1: COVID we were upstairs in the Bradsham Radio booth, and
Speaker 1: then and then and then there was a lot of
Speaker 1: time though too, where we were just at the station
Speaker 1: at one oh five three. And that's tough because you know,
Speaker 1: the inner action that you had with the fan. One
Speaker 1: of the things I look forward to when you're talking
Speaker 1: about with Nate and how he works with all the
Speaker 1: folks out there in Oxnard, when you go walking in
Speaker 1: and Nate kind of shout out for walking in, and
Speaker 1: you're kind of like, Okay, Nate's uh, that's cool, and
Speaker 1: then people like turn around and look and you're just
Speaker 1: kind of like duck in your head and go, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: how's it going. It's funny because you mentioned this to
Speaker 1: me when we were on the Draft show a long
Speaker 1: time ago, and he's like, watch out, watch watch Camp Nate,
Speaker 1: watch him, Oh yeah, navigate And I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm sure, I'm sure he's just Nate. Nate takes another level. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we gotta love it. Camp is fun. Yeah for us,
Speaker 1: now we're not, I don't feel but for us it's
Speaker 1: a little bit of work for them, right, Yeah, No,
Speaker 1: doubt about it all right, since I mean it feels
Speaker 1: like yesterday we had training camp. But you blink and
Speaker 1: we're halfway through this season right now. Yeah, kind of
Speaker 1: you're starting. You're starting to figure out some things. The
Speaker 1: calendar's changed. I know, working for Bill Parcels, he always
Speaker 1: said you kind of you know who you are by Thanksgiving.
Speaker 1: I think Jerry Jones in this front office and coaching
Speaker 1: staff have an idea of who they are through eight weeks.
Speaker 1: Who do you think they are? I think they're a
Speaker 1: team that realized that they've got their quarterback back. They
Speaker 1: can be very dynamic when it comes to use of personnel,
Speaker 1: whether it's the tight ends, the backs. You know. The
Speaker 1: way that they're getting both those backs going, I think
Speaker 1: is a really really good thing to see. These wide
Speaker 1: receivers probably need to get them going a little bit more,
Speaker 1: but I was encouraged by what I saw with the
Speaker 1: movement of some of the things this offensive line, who
Speaker 1: I thought was really man A lot of question marks
Speaker 1: coming out of that Tampa game, not just the quarterback
Speaker 1: being healthy, but you learned this team is very resilient.
Speaker 1: They survived their quarterback being gone for five weeks. You know,
Speaker 1: and I think that says a lot that this coaching
Speaker 1: staff again super critical of Mike McCarthy. I said yesterday
Speaker 1: in the radio he would have my vote for a
Speaker 1: coach of the year. I know what's going on with
Speaker 1: the Jets in New York and all that stuff like that,
Speaker 1: But what other team has survived their quarterback being out
Speaker 1: for five weeks and have a four and one record,
Speaker 1: you know, and be one of the better teams in football.
Speaker 1: So I think you got to give Mike McCarthy the
Speaker 1: staff a lot of credit for that. The identity on defense,
Speaker 1: you know, we saw it last year with all the turnovers,
Speaker 1: and now they've taken it to a whole other level
Speaker 1: with the pressures and the sacks and so and they're
Speaker 1: and they're really really deep the way they're able to
Speaker 1: rotate those guys through So, um, those are the kind
Speaker 1: of the main And you got a really good kicking game,
Speaker 1: you got an outstanding punt returner, If you got an
Speaker 1: outstanding punter, and you got a field goal kicker that
Speaker 1: you can rely on, it's pretty deep. Team is great,
Speaker 1: It is great. I mean, all we got to his
Speaker 1: add discipline, Yeah, we got to add a little bit
Speaker 1: more don't line up off side some third and five
Speaker 1: or whatever. That one hurt a little bit. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: add a little discipline, and I'm telling you this thing
Speaker 1: would be uh oh man, I'm telling you when that
Speaker 1: kid went down in the Tampa game, you're like, whoa, yeah,
Speaker 1: but uh, coach McCarthy is stepped up. Man. And I've
Speaker 1: went to a couple of Will McClay and the guys.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I didn't see it. No, I didn't believe it.
Speaker 1: But whatever, coach McCarthy's feeding these kids and his coaches
Speaker 1: keep feeding it. Si. He looked at me. I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I didn't see it. I thought it was gone. Man. Wow. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well that's that's the thing about it is that it
Speaker 1: happened so early, and then you know, you lose Tyrn
Speaker 1: Smith even before the season starts, and now the questions go.
Speaker 1: I remember the week leading up to the game on
Speaker 1: all the shows were how's Tyler Smith gonna do? And
Speaker 1: you're thinking, what, I saw Tyler Smith play left tackle
Speaker 1: for Tulsa. You know, but that didn't see him in
Speaker 1: training camp. I saw him in OTAs and mini camps
Speaker 1: without pads on playing some tackle. But you know, I
Speaker 1: mean he was. He was in a battle for the
Speaker 1: left guard spot, you know, and I think that, and
Speaker 1: Nate will tell you this. I mean, he's he's he's
Speaker 1: lived this. You know, great offensive lineman on all their
Speaker 1: plays sixty five places. Don't just great him on one
Speaker 1: or two plays, because you could have you could have,
Speaker 1: you know, sixty five plays. You could have sixty three
Speaker 1: pluses and two minuses. You just hope that two minuses
Speaker 1: aren't the ones that you know. Maybe, but yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean it's to the point now where it's like Tyrn
Speaker 1: Smith coming back, you know, in several weeks, it's like, okay,
Speaker 1: maybe it's like we'll cross that bridge. We get there.
Speaker 1: But you're starting to think and listen, I've been super
Speaker 1: critical too. Man. It's not like I've been critical a
Speaker 1: lot of folks, which is what you do for a living.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's your self aware. Maybe they should be more
Speaker 1: critical of me, but and they and they are trust me. Um.
Speaker 1: But yeah, you know, with Terrence Steele, you know, what's
Speaker 1: going on at right at tackle. I mean there's questions.
Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, what's going on at left guard, what's
Speaker 1: going on at center? The center's playing damn well for
Speaker 1: you right now. You know what's going on going to
Speaker 1: happen at right tackle? You know, I mean all these
Speaker 1: worries that you have. This crew can run the ball.
Speaker 1: I mean I didn't run it well against the Commanders,
Speaker 1: but I'll challenge anybody to run the ball well against
Speaker 1: the Commanders. Many they are physical up front, now, you know.
Speaker 1: But this this line has gotten better. The quarterbacks back,
Speaker 1: he looks comfortable, and the play caller. Let's hope he
Speaker 1: could kind of keep the momentum going with the way
Speaker 1: he's doing things. So I don't know about you, guys,
Speaker 1: but yesterday was Halloween. Yeah, today is November first. Yes,
Speaker 1: my fiance was already getting out the Christmas decorations yesterday.
Speaker 1: Already she was pulling them out. She's getting them all.
Speaker 1: I had like a Christmas truck in my living room
Speaker 1: that was Santa's everywhere. It's all already happening. So with
Speaker 1: that being said, today is your only day to give
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones your wish list, your wish list moving forward
Speaker 1: for what you want to add to this team and
Speaker 1: the identity that you guys just gave to me. Nate,
Speaker 1: what would be on that wis wish list in terms
Speaker 1: of a position you would want for the Cowboys moving forward?
Speaker 1: You know, because I don't have a player a position.
Speaker 1: You don't have one, I have one, won't Okay, what
Speaker 1: is it? And you and you know I will beat
Speaker 1: a dead horse to death twice. I didn't want this scipline. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if I can get one thing for this team, and
Speaker 1: that's why I've been listening and brought us well for
Speaker 1: one thing for this team. I wish list well, I
Speaker 1: could be you know, I live whether for you to
Speaker 1: be critical than me. I want discipline, Kyle, and I
Speaker 1: am serious about that. You can't go buy discipline, though,
Speaker 1: So where do you get it? What you can help
Speaker 1: teach it? And it's got to be consequences forward. Is
Speaker 1: that on the coaching staff? Yeah, that's on the coach.
Speaker 1: That's on the coach seven the leaders of this team.
Speaker 1: But other than that, brought us is thinking, really brought us,
Speaker 1: is thinking the same thing I'm thinking. So tell them
Speaker 1: what we're thinking. Brought us? Yeah, I you know what
Speaker 1: to me? Give me an impact player, yes, and I will.
Speaker 1: I will take it on either side of the ball. Okay.
Speaker 1: And I learned a long time ago with the Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame General manager Ron Wolf when I was in
Speaker 1: Green Bay, and he used to say, when you feel
Speaker 1: like you're good at a position, at another one, squad
Speaker 1: out another one, and I think you could help this
Speaker 1: team in so many ways. And I think the general manager,
Speaker 1: I think Jerry Jones sees this. I think he sees
Speaker 1: I said it this morning, and I hate it. I
Speaker 1: don't mean this to sound morbid, but Father Time is undefeated,
Speaker 1: you know, and we don't have we don't know when
Speaker 1: we're gonna have opportunities again. And you got to look
Speaker 1: at your team and you got to say, Okay, this
Speaker 1: is where we are right now as a team, all
Speaker 1: these things that I just said, that's where you are
Speaker 1: as a team. You gotta look at the division, you
Speaker 1: gotta look at the conference. You gotta look at what's ahead,
Speaker 1: and if something presents itself where you can go out
Speaker 1: and make a deal. And the reason I want to
Speaker 1: keep an open mind about it is because as a
Speaker 1: former pro personnel guy, I'm going to give Jerry Jones
Speaker 1: ten names. I'm going to say, these teams are two
Speaker 1: and six, three and five. I'm going to go after
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna make calls and I'm gonna make somebody
Speaker 1: tell me. No, I'm gonna make somebody tell me. If
Speaker 1: they're two and six and all of a sudden they
Speaker 1: feel like they're not going anywhere in second half, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go try and get some of these teams best players.
Speaker 1: It's a wide receiver, whether it's a defensive end, whether
Speaker 1: it's a linebacker. We saw Roquan Smith go yesterday for
Speaker 1: a two and a five. You know, I'm doing something
Speaker 1: like that. Any picks that Dallas gives away right now,
Speaker 1: if you give away a one, it's like giving away
Speaker 1: a two because you're gonna be picking late in the
Speaker 1: draft anyway. You know, we only have what fifteen to
Speaker 1: eighteen first round grades. Yeah, okay, it's not like I'm
Speaker 1: the New Orleans Saints who gave away a pick and
Speaker 1: now it's the top five, six, top six pick in
Speaker 1: the draft. I'm going to get an impact player and
Speaker 1: the position really doesn't matter to me, but I'm going
Speaker 1: to get you know, you can talk about wide receiver.
Speaker 1: That would be a big help. If Kelly Moore is continuing.
Speaker 1: If that, if we're seeing to Kelly Moore, that's gonna
Speaker 1: move guys around and work them open and stuff like that. Absolutely.
Speaker 1: I could see I'd see another defensive tackle. I could
Speaker 1: see a three technique. I could see another defensive end.
Speaker 1: I could you know, just a linebacker, a corner, even
Speaker 1: though the guy's like Bland and those guys are I
Speaker 1: mean playing well. But yeah, just add add a position
Speaker 1: at a big time player. And that's what Nate and
Speaker 1: Nate used to play on teams when we used to
Speaker 1: compete against him at Green Bay. They were a good defense,
Speaker 1: nad Charles Haley. You know they add Dion Sanders, they
Speaker 1: add you know, it's like they add impact players. You know,
Speaker 1: that's what you need on this football team. You've got
Speaker 1: You've got impact players. At number eleven is one of
Speaker 1: the best impact, most impact players in the league. Sure
Speaker 1: at another one. I like that a lot because a
Speaker 1: lot of people are saying wide receiver, sure, offensive tackle
Speaker 1: or guard or whatever you wanted to do upfront. And
Speaker 1: then there's a lot of guys on the open market
Speaker 1: that are going places. He's just saw yesterday Roquan Smith.
Speaker 1: He's going to Baltimore. Baltimore's got a good defense, yea,
Speaker 1: they added, Yeah, they're struggling. I mean that you watch
Speaker 1: Baltimore that they've you know they've had their struggles, but
Speaker 1: they but they realized that, like we need to get
Speaker 1: a little bit better, we need to get a little
Speaker 1: bit better. So I'm I'm not opposed to it now.
Speaker 1: Jerry will tell you you know, he's fielding calls, and
Speaker 1: that's good. That's good if he's feeling calls. But I'd
Speaker 1: also be proactive here too, thank you, and be the
Speaker 1: one that's making Yeah, but see makes somebody tell you know, yes,
Speaker 1: if Nate, if Nate Newton is an all pro defensive
Speaker 1: three technique and he's not a bad team Right now,
Speaker 1: I'm calling, I'm gonna see how committed they are to really,
Speaker 1: you know, are you committed to keep winning? Are you
Speaker 1: are you going to try and win? Are you giving up?
Speaker 1: Do you want my first round pick? You know, teams
Speaker 1: a lot of these teams are run by guys that
Speaker 1: were former scouts. Scouts, gimme picks, gimme picks, gimme picks,
Speaker 1: gimme picks. That's what they're thinking about. They're not thinking
Speaker 1: about really how they build the team. They just want picks,
Speaker 1: you know, and and where you should take advantage of that?
Speaker 1: And I you know to say and I know on
Speaker 1: this on this platform. We can't give names and all
Speaker 1: we could, yeah, I mean we can't. Yeah, and it's understandable.
Speaker 1: But just impact offense or defense. Impact, that's where you start.
Speaker 1: And we talk about this before the show before you
Speaker 1: walked in, Kyle. It's a player out there. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: it will mcclay's y'all with his guys to get those
Speaker 1: five or six guys. You saying ten, I'm saying I
Speaker 1: I don't. I am a guy. I am done. I
Speaker 1: listened to y'all draft show, own and off. I am
Speaker 1: done with anything. If you're not a fourth round I
Speaker 1: would never have a fifth, six or something. I would
Speaker 1: never have that. I'll be trying to package them to
Speaker 1: get me a fourth. I would never because those are
Speaker 1: the only things that I care about. And now getting
Speaker 1: rid of a first for a Rocon Smith, I would
Speaker 1: have did it like eight years ago, before he was
Speaker 1: even born into this league, I promise you, yeah, because
Speaker 1: how do you how do you quantify not having a
Speaker 1: guy like that? Well, what they'll say to you though,
Speaker 1: and this is Stephen Jones, and the way they run
Speaker 1: the cap is they've got guys that coming up for
Speaker 1: future contracts. They've got CD digs. You know, they've got
Speaker 1: guys some point. And I know, Nate, you're rubbing your
Speaker 1: eyes and I rub my eyes too. I rub my
Speaker 1: eyes too because I'm about And this is where I
Speaker 1: think the advantage they have right now, because Jerry really
Speaker 1: does believe this. And again it's not the morbid approach,
Speaker 1: but Jerry, and you know, when you start thinking about
Speaker 1: how many more campaigns do you have left, how many
Speaker 1: more opportunities are you going to have for Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: not to be in the mix or Tom Brady not
Speaker 1: to be in the mix, you know? Or your main
Speaker 1: competition is the Vikings, the Eagles and the Giants, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean right now, if the season ended, you're going
Speaker 1: to Atlanta to play a playoff game. You're probably a
Speaker 1: ten point favored against Atlanta right now on the road,
Speaker 1: no doubt. So why not if you can add one
Speaker 1: more player or you know, two more players, And that
Speaker 1: to me is that to me is that's where that's
Speaker 1: where you're trying to go for it right there. And
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people are critical of the
Speaker 1: Jones family and there's something they admit it. There's things
Speaker 1: that that it's the way they operate and Jerry said
Speaker 1: this morning that maybe that we think that Jerry's too
Speaker 1: aggressive and Stephen isn't, and Jerry said it's kind of
Speaker 1: quite the opposite. He says, I feel like that that
Speaker 1: Stephen at times is very aggressive, and he goes there's
Speaker 1: times Jerry said, I'm very conservative, but they feel like
Speaker 1: they have the balance there. I'd like to see I'd
Speaker 1: like to see the right deal fall in their lap today.
Speaker 1: I really would. I think it would be kind of
Speaker 1: fun because I think they would do it. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think they're interested. Everything that you've heard from Jerry and
Speaker 1: then Stephen this week postgame got me thinking that. When
Speaker 1: he told Kevin Gray at one oh five three and
Speaker 1: the Fan, he says, Kevin asked him the question, and
Speaker 1: he says, if he goes, I see everything you're talking
Speaker 1: about about this, I see everything that about this football
Speaker 1: team and everything that Kevin asked him about going forward
Speaker 1: that had to do with going forward, and Jerry was
Speaker 1: Jerry didn't didn't back off. He didn't say, well, you know,
Speaker 1: we need to see the right No. Jerry says, I'm
Speaker 1: I'm thinking exactly what you just asked me, and I
Speaker 1: think that's that's all as a cowboy fan. That's all
Speaker 1: you can ask for. Now, the cowboy fan out there
Speaker 1: will also say they never do anything. This is gonna
Speaker 1: be another Well maybe the right opportunity didn't come, But
Speaker 1: to me, I think this is a great opportunity to
Speaker 1: try and help your football. Bat phone should be lit
Speaker 1: up the mission of Gordon. You should be lit the
Speaker 1: skylighting this guy. And like I said, I have no
Speaker 1: player that I wanted. He the player I wanted is gone.
Speaker 1: And uh, I think we needed a linebacker and it
Speaker 1: was one guy, that Smith. He is the ultimate big
Speaker 1: play linebacker. He's gone. Now, brodness, you may have a
Speaker 1: list of guys. Yeah, there's there's guys again, we just
Speaker 1: kind of can't get into him. But yeah, their targets. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what the thing about it is. So let's let's
Speaker 1: see how this thing goes. We got till three o'clock
Speaker 1: today and hopefully that that Jerry and Will and Steven
Speaker 1: are fielding a lot of calls. And there's some teams
Speaker 1: out there that are sellers today. This division, this uh,
Speaker 1: this league has a lot of sellers involved and its
Speaker 1: rams are apparently shooting their shot again. By the way,
Speaker 1: did you see that to the Cowboys. No, they offered
Speaker 1: they offered Brian for Burns. Burns two first round draft
Speaker 1: picks for Burns to Carolina. Can we say the name
Speaker 1: is that? Okay? I mean it's not a Cowboys, it's
Speaker 1: not a Cowboys. This is reported by Albert Brier says.
Speaker 1: Breer says the Rams offered two first round draft picks
Speaker 1: to for Brian Burns, and Carolina turned them down. Wow,
Speaker 1: they're always shooting their shot. They're getting in there. They
Speaker 1: always do. They don't. They don't like they don't like
Speaker 1: the draft. They don't like holding onto the pigs. I'm
Speaker 1: not being picks man picks. You hit him, miss, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean yeah. The thing that the thing the thing
Speaker 1: about the thing about their their uh and I know
Speaker 1: less sneed the the GM real well. And Less is
Speaker 1: one of those guys that where Less has had really
Speaker 1: good successes. He goes out and gets the best player,
Speaker 1: but the best player ends up staying healthy for him too. Yes,
Speaker 1: they don't they This is the first year that the
Speaker 1: Rams have really struggled with injury. Their offensive line. It's
Speaker 1: been decimated, it really has. And so when you make
Speaker 1: that when you make that thought about going out giving
Speaker 1: up picks, but you don't have depth to handle it. See,
Speaker 1: that's the one thing that Cowboys have. Colboys have some depth.
Speaker 1: You saw that on display on defense the other day.
Speaker 1: No doubt. That's the thing is players could be involved
Speaker 1: in it. Trade picks could be involved with it. There
Speaker 1: are so many ways for Dallas to push the chips
Speaker 1: all in. They're already a good portion there, got the roster.
Speaker 1: There might be somebody on your roster right now that
Speaker 1: someone likes. That would soften the blow of going to
Speaker 1: getting another guy. You know, you say, Okay, we'll parlay
Speaker 1: won a Nate's third or fourth round picks and we'll
Speaker 1: package it with a player that somebody might like. It
Speaker 1: might be a little surplus for you. I like it.
Speaker 1: I like it. We'll see what happens, and we'll of
Speaker 1: course talk talk about it tomorrow. Break it all down
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Speaker 1: three pm Central time. When we come back though it's
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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys. So we talked about trade deadline, talked about
Speaker 1: the Sunday win. Let's talk about a little bit of grades.
Speaker 1: I want you guys to give me an A to
Speaker 1: F grade on how the Cowboys have fared throughout the season. Brian,
Speaker 1: you did a great job of outlining it early on.
Speaker 1: You survived your backup quarterback for five games. You survived
Speaker 1: not having Dak Prescott. You went four and one of
Speaker 1: those games. You're six and two heading into the bye week,
Speaker 1: technically the halfway point. I know there's nine games left,
Speaker 1: but this is a good reset point. What would you
Speaker 1: grade the first half of the season. I think it's
Speaker 1: been an A. I think you absolutely when you look
Speaker 1: at what this defense has been able to do, development
Speaker 1: of young offensive lineman. You survived your quarterback not being
Speaker 1: part of five games, you've established that you can run
Speaker 1: the ball with two guys instead of just one. The
Speaker 1: wide receivers, probably you need a little bit more there.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's the talent. I just know
Speaker 1: that they struggled with Cooper rush Plane quarterback. You got
Speaker 1: a great development with these young tight ends. You survived
Speaker 1: not having Dalton Schultz, who was a big part of that.
Speaker 1: I mean, the resiliency, the coaching staff, Dan Quinn, Mike McCarthy,
Speaker 1: Kellen Moore, bones fossil. You know, how could you not
Speaker 1: at six and two. I mean, if they don't have
Speaker 1: three turnovers against the Eagles, I think they win that
Speaker 1: football game. I think they do. I think they find
Speaker 1: a way to win that game. I think they had
Speaker 1: the Eagles on the ropes a little bit there, but
Speaker 1: the turnovers were just too much. But the Tampa game
Speaker 1: it seems like a distant memory. Now it's a different
Speaker 1: football team. And I don't know how you cannot give
Speaker 1: this team an A for what they've done so far.
Speaker 1: You're very convincing, Brian. I give them a B plus.
Speaker 1: What a great job that his defense did. And Ben
Speaker 1: dating this whole thing, Yeah, for making sure that you
Speaker 1: couldn't score more than eighteen points, and they made sure
Speaker 1: the opponents score win less. They did a tremendous job
Speaker 1: of doing it. And I want to get coach mccarthyin
Speaker 1: A but I'm gonna get his team a B plus
Speaker 1: because when your offense went dormant the way it went
Speaker 1: and barely survived, you got to get a quarterback at A.
Speaker 1: But other than that, they just they got through. So
Speaker 1: I'm giving him a B plus. And uh, a tremendous
Speaker 1: job of coach McCarthy because he did not blink and
Speaker 1: I he did his thing. And then I always and
Speaker 1: our report saying always glaring of him from outsiders, Yeah,
Speaker 1: of coach McCarthy. But he hung in there, he did
Speaker 1: what he had to do. I give him a B plus. Man,
Speaker 1: So you're bringing the grade down significantly. Yes, from from
Speaker 1: broad Uster said I would give him an A. By
Speaker 1: the way as well, I was asked that question last night,
Speaker 1: and I gave an a same reason. I thought I
Speaker 1: even thought that A minus, Yeah, it can fit, but
Speaker 1: B plus. And you're bringing it down because of the offense. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So are you not giving in on the fact that
Speaker 1: they showed again on Sunday that they can go back
Speaker 1: to that they can get back to a forty point offense,
Speaker 1: which we saw all of last year. They are you
Speaker 1: not buying in just yet, just based off of the
Speaker 1: competition that our first half Yeah, and the first half
Speaker 1: was our offense wasn't great put it put the defense,
Speaker 1: but the defense was superb sure. I mean they were
Speaker 1: super elite. Yes, and they covered up a lot of
Speaker 1: things for us, because when Philly came, we saw it.
Speaker 1: It was it was exposed. But now with Dag back
Speaker 1: with a week on his belt, we see what we
Speaker 1: can be. So, uh, if they're a for just hanging
Speaker 1: in there, what what do we get? Well, you know what,
Speaker 1: if you want to if you want to really break
Speaker 1: it down this way, you can say it coaching staff
Speaker 1: A yes, you can say defense A yes, offense C yes.
Speaker 1: I think that's fair. Yeah. And then if that's the case,
Speaker 1: then Nate's closer to being right than I am about
Speaker 1: the A. But I mean, because if you if you
Speaker 1: really feel like that the quarterback, the backup quarterback was
Speaker 1: he did exactly what he had to do. He did
Speaker 1: and his eyes around the offensive line got better, the
Speaker 1: running game, everything got better, The tight ends got better. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I received was that was a struggle. That was a
Speaker 1: struggle struggle. Yeah, I think the Nates, Nate's onto something.
Speaker 1: So if you even wanted to go a little further,
Speaker 1: if you wanted just to grade in on all three levels, A, A,
Speaker 1: and A C, yes, you're kind of somewhere right around
Speaker 1: A B plus or B special teams. Special teams. I
Speaker 1: mean A plus. I tell you, with what they've done
Speaker 1: with it, then they've been good. Well yeah, with the A.
Speaker 1: I mean I would leave the pluses and stuff out.
Speaker 1: I'd just say A B and say whatever. And but
Speaker 1: to me, it's it's kind of one of those things
Speaker 1: where this summer, it could have been real easy for
Speaker 1: them to take that kicking situation and force it and say, no,
Speaker 1: Garabay is our guy. He's the dude, he's our guy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know higher law who he's our guy. Right. They
Speaker 1: didn't do that. Felt like they tried to do that
Speaker 1: for a little bit and then finally were like and
Speaker 1: then and then it got then it got to the
Speaker 1: point where Nate got tired of looking at me and
Speaker 1: going I haven't made a field goal yet here today,
Speaker 1: and I go, I don't know, Nate, it looks bad
Speaker 1: to me. I agree, But they went out and they
Speaker 1: resigned the punter. Like I had an eighty something yard
Speaker 1: punt the other day and net sixty something yard punt.
Speaker 1: He has had a couple of change in the fields.
Speaker 1: He changes the field. That's what I'm saying. They go
Speaker 1: out and this is where you got to get the
Speaker 1: front office an a for going out and getting for
Speaker 1: going out and getting turpin, you know. I mean, that's
Speaker 1: the pro scouting department saying, hey, we're watching USFL tape
Speaker 1: and you know we don't have a dynamic returner. This
Speaker 1: kid is a difference maker as a returner. He's likely
Speaker 1: going to win a game for you here in the
Speaker 1: second half one of those cold weather games there or
Speaker 1: whatever late in the year. He's gonna Tennessee or someplace
Speaker 1: like that. They're not going to kick the ball all
Speaker 1: the way down the field and he's gonna take it back. Heck,
Speaker 1: he had a fifty four yard punt return the other
Speaker 1: day that you didn't get any points off of that
Speaker 1: you should have. But that's the kind of thing. I mean.
Speaker 1: You look at how this team has been built. They
Speaker 1: really really survived because of special teams in defense. Yes,
Speaker 1: and now the offense is hopefully back because your quarterbacks
Speaker 1: back so nate based off of your grade first half
Speaker 1: of the season B plus if you give a If
Speaker 1: you're talking about the offense and their struggles, do you
Speaker 1: expect them to be better? Are is it going to
Speaker 1: be better in the second half? To be better? Okay,
Speaker 1: if you're not gonna control time of possession at thirty
Speaker 1: one minutes or more, you have to be better because
Speaker 1: Philadelphia gonna make you do that. Are they gonna wear
Speaker 1: it down your defense? Chicag I mean New York Giants
Speaker 1: gonna make you. They're gonna wear it down your defense.
Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings gonna wear down your defense because they have
Speaker 1: the ability to score. This is not the Bears, this
Speaker 1: is not Detroit. These guys will make you. They will
Speaker 1: stress stress your defense and then say that, right, did
Speaker 1: you got it? This is it? Yes? I think you
Speaker 1: guys are both making great points because the defense elite,
Speaker 1: one of the best in the NFL. Right now, you
Speaker 1: gotta stop the run. Sure, there's there's there's holes there.
Speaker 1: You're gonna fix that. I think at some point this season,
Speaker 1: maybe the tread trade deadline does that. Maybe it doesn't.
Speaker 1: Same thing for the offense. Maybe the tread trade deadline
Speaker 1: helps out the offense. Three o'clock potential here it's three,
Speaker 1: it's four o'clock, it's ten o one. Fellas, got a
Speaker 1: little bit of time. Yes, we'll see what happens and
Speaker 1: we'll talk about it tomorrow here on Talking Cowboys. But
Speaker 1: the offense gotta pick it up. Defense, you've been great,
Speaker 1: special teams phenomenal. Let's keep that rolling and we'll be
Speaker 1: back here tomorrow to talk about what happened on the
Speaker 1: trade deadline. But it's over. We got forty five minutes
Speaker 1: in this room. Blows five right when greatness is working,
Speaker 1: don't stop. I mean at least another fifteen minutes. This wrong,
Speaker 1: all right? Being for three days. Yeah, we're gonna get
Speaker 1: Nate in here. That'd be great, just have him on
Speaker 1: the board. But that's gonna do it for us here
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