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Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal. Call that for me. I'm

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Speaker 1: a man, I'm forty. I've heard so many players say, well,

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Speaker 1: I want to be happy. You want to be happy

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Speaker 1: for dake Ado State? Is that woom woom? And Dan

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Speaker 1: and Tye.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to the solid verbal Boys and girls, my

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Speaker 2: name is ty Hildebrand, joining me as always over there

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Speaker 2: in beautiful New York City. My man Dan Orubinstein, Sir,

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Speaker 2: how are you?

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Speaker 1: Ty? I just took it wasn't a coffee nap. It

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Speaker 1: was a green tea nap. Okay, if we're going to

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Speaker 1: be very specific, sure green tea and blueberry Danish nap.

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Speaker 1: Come on, you're very old. Put anything I know. I am.

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Speaker 1: I went to the library today. I went to a

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Speaker 1: coffee shop.

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Speaker 2: It's happening.

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Speaker 1: But at said coffee shop, I did a deep dive

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Speaker 1: of my own into Clemson Alabama. And I would say

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Speaker 1: we ended the previous episode the New Year's Eve Recap

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Speaker 1: Show with me feeling a little bit sour, not sour,

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Speaker 1: but jaded by the matchup of Clemson Alabama. I think

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Speaker 1: I'm in a little bit of a better place right now.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's typically what happens, as you know, we normally

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Speaker 2: go to the national Championship. We're not there this year.

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Speaker 2: But typically what you find happening, especially when you talk

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Speaker 2: to the media folk that go to such things, is

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Speaker 2: everyone comes in with one assumption, and over the course

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Speaker 2: constantly talking about the game, eventually people talk themselves into

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Speaker 1: Famously, me and Notre Dame over Alabama, right, No, I

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Speaker 1: think I'm with you, yeah on that front as well.

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Speaker 2: We've got Clemson, We've got Alabama. We've had people right

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Speaker 2: in and they've indicated their own level of malaise oh

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Speaker 2: this matchup. But nonetheless, we are previewing it with a

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Speaker 2: few days to bear, to give everyone a chance to

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Speaker 2: prepare themselves accordingly for the one big game, Dan, it's

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Speaker 2: for us all the marbles. They're playing it in Levi

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Speaker 2: Stadium in Santa Clara, California. It is the College Football

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Speaker 2: Playoff National Championship presented by at NT.

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Speaker 1: Yes, can we paint as complete a picture as we

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Speaker 1: Although I guess we can do a North Dakota State

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Speaker 1: Eastern Washington pick. But I want to I want to start.

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Speaker 1: I want to zoom out as wide as we possibly can. Yes,

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Speaker 1: so the twenty eighth, let's start with twenty eighteen. Let's

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Speaker 1: start with the game itself. Santa Clara sucks. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's just nowhere near the capital of college football, which

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Speaker 1: And if it's gonna be in California, it should at

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Speaker 1: the Rose Bowl. If it's going to be elsewhere, just

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Speaker 1: It's that's the Bay Area in late December, early January,

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Speaker 1: Sure. Yeah. They wanted to be like a Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: not it so that that aside, Go get a torta

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Speaker 1: at Mexico Bakery in San Jose if you're in the area.

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Speaker 1: It's literally just called Mexico Bakery.

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Speaker 1: And if there's a long line, literally named literally Mexico Bakery.

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Speaker 1: Second off, let's start you want to start clemsoner Alabama

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Speaker 1: And just your perception of the twenty eighteen Alabama team.

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Speaker 1: you have fun watching Alabama this season? You know what?

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Speaker 1: You know, what was your the wave of your emotions?

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Speaker 1: You know, did you watch a lot of Alabama? Did you?

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Speaker 2: just this brand that Nick Saban's built while he's been

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Speaker 1: Jerry Judy is to Calvin Ridley is to Amari Cooper

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's right. But it is different in

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's to your point. Part of it is

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Speaker 1: it's learning the languages, it's heat seeking, And that is

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Speaker 1: he goes through so there's so much attrition with guys

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Speaker 1: that come with coaching in Tuscaloosa. And we've seen that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And to some degree, maybe this will sound goofy

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Speaker 2: It remains pretty amazing to me that guys are as

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Speaker 2: They know if they are part of it, it's going

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Speaker 2: to bode well for their NFL chances. But it's a

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Speaker 2: It's an embarrassment of riches that Nick Saban is built

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Speaker 2: Now that being said, I suppose when we talk about Clemson,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because it's not just the getting of talent that

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Speaker 1: the Seinfeld is not just taking the reservation. It's not

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Speaker 1: And nobody has done a better job of that than

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Speaker 1: Nick Saban and Alabama. So as it relates, as we

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Speaker 2: Why don't we go over to the Clemson side, okay

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Speaker 2: and talk about their journey here. Now Clemson comes at

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Speaker 2: the course of time under Dabos Sweeney has built up

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Speaker 2: College Football Playoff a year ago, Yet the second Trevor

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Speaker 2: when he is going to Supplant Bryant, and it seemed

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Speaker 2: According to Bill Connolly's resume ranking, which is something he's added, yeah, Alabama,

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Speaker 1: Correct. These are the clear two best teams, clear two

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Speaker 2: They play on Monday, January the seventh, at eight pm

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Speaker 2: They're actually not gonna be there. They're gonna be performing.

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Speaker 1: What's Treasure Island?

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Speaker 2: Here's the deal. The ticket prices are dropping. We had

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Speaker 2: for dealing with him? Yeah, that's imperative.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, No, That to me is probably question number one.

433
00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:08,840
Speaker 1: Question number two is, and I think it was partially

434
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Speaker 1: answered because we've now seen Trevor Lawrence against a really

435
00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:14,800
Speaker 1: excellent defense in Notre Dame, is what does Trevor Lawrence

436
00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:18,560
Speaker 1: look like in terms of early poise, Because Alabama is

437
00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:21,120
Speaker 1: a team that, oh shoot, they're up seventeen to three

438
00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:24,960
Speaker 1: four minutes into the game, and so Clemson can't start slow.

439
00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:28,080
Speaker 1: They just I don't think they can come back in

440
00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:32,280
Speaker 1: this game? So what do what does Trevor Lawrence? What

441
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:35,720
Speaker 1: does this passing attack look like early on first quarter?

442
00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:40,400
Speaker 1: Do they come out scripted, jitter free and confident? And

443
00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:43,760
Speaker 1: this is not going to be a situation Again, I'm

444
00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,639
Speaker 1: not in team meetings. This is an assumption. The playbook

445
00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:50,600
Speaker 1: available and the progressions available to Trevor Lawrence probably won't

446
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,640
Speaker 1: look like what Deshaun Watson had in his final year

447
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:58,199
Speaker 1: at Clemson. So how does a paired down or at

448
00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:01,879
Speaker 1: least different looking offensive play book with Trevor Lawrence running

449
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:06,119
Speaker 1: things look like early? What does that? What does that

450
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 1: feel like? Where's the confidence? Are they testing Alabama deep

451
00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:13,119
Speaker 1: early and not wasting not doing what Washington did against

452
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 1: Ohio State?

453
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Speaker 2: Essentially, Yeah, I've got Trevor Lawrence versus the Bama secondary

454
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Speaker 2: on my list as well. Keep in mind he carved

455
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,879
Speaker 2: up Notre Dame for three twenty seven three touchdowns and

456
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,200
Speaker 2: the Lion gave him enough time to pick the spots.

457
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,520
Speaker 2: This point kind of works with our previous point. How

458
00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:32,560
Speaker 2: does the Lion deal with the Alabama's front? We saw

459
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 2: Jake from from Georgia have a superb game against Alabama

460
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:38,960
Speaker 2: in the SEC Title game. So it's doable. We know

461
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:43,800
Speaker 2: it's doable. And this Clemson wide receiving corps is probably

462
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,080
Speaker 2: the best Alabama scene all year. They go like four

463
00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:48,840
Speaker 2: or five deep. They're really good. If Trevor Lawrence can

464
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:52,480
Speaker 2: play at or near the same level as a week ago.

465
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Speaker 2: I think the Clemson offense is in really good shape.

466
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Speaker 2: Through the air. I think that's the main way they

467
00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 2: move the ball though, because to your point, the ground

468
00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 2: game doesn't feel quite as promising for Clemson.

469
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and again, nothing to do with this line, nothing

470
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:10,479
Speaker 1: to do with Travis etn or anybody uh toting the

471
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:17,600
Speaker 1: rock for Clemson, thank toting. It's more the formula as

472
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:21,080
Speaker 1: we've seen, and again it's nothing is in stone. But

473
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Speaker 1: from what we've seen of teams, it was, you know it,

474
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:27,480
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson giving every ounce of his life being you know,

475
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:30,320
Speaker 1: his pants were torn, he was hit so hard. It's

476
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:32,200
Speaker 1: going to have to happen through the air. It's going

477
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 1: to have to happen vertically, it's going to have to

478
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 1: happen fearlessly. And as you mentioned, yes, this Clemson receiving

479
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:40,080
Speaker 1: cores is not only the best line that are the

480
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,840
Speaker 1: best wide receiving corps that Alabama has faced all year long.

481
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 1: It's probably the best wide receiving cores that anybody's faced

482
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Speaker 1: outside of teams that have played Alabamas in the post.

483
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:52,000
Speaker 1: And so they have the like Justin Ross and t

484
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:55,760
Speaker 1: Higgins both what six four, both bigger bodies who will

485
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:59,880
Speaker 1: go up and challenge ball for balls with anybody. They've

486
00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:03,639
Speaker 1: got Hunter Renfro who is as dangerous a slot receiver

487
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:06,119
Speaker 1: as we've seen on a major level, and then like

488
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:09,439
Speaker 1: nine other four stars, and then Amari Rodgers, who is

489
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:13,960
Speaker 1: just a yards a yak machine and a lot to

490
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 1: account for. I think a big difference though, is you

491
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 1: will notice I did not mention a tight end there.

492
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:23,679
Speaker 1: You will notice I did not mention a big threat

493
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 1: over the middle, which whether it was Evan Ingram, whether

494
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 1: it was I suppose a little bit of Ryan Swope

495
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:30,680
Speaker 1: even though he wasn't a tight end for Texas A

496
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:34,480
Speaker 1: and m Jordan Leggett most recently. There is that element

497
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:38,360
Speaker 1: of force Alabama to account for every blade of grass,

498
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,359
Speaker 1: and I don't know if I fully see that with

499
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Speaker 1: this group. If there's any very small criticism I have

500
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 1: about what is available for Clemson in terms of personnel

501
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 1: that may be it.

502
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 2: The other matchup. To me, that's the top of my list,

503
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:58,160
Speaker 2: and it probably goes without saying, but it's Clemson's defensive

504
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:02,400
Speaker 2: line against Alabama offensive line. In many ways, it's strength

505
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 2: on strength. If you want to zoom in on a matchup,

506
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,359
Speaker 2: Jonah Williams against Cleveland Ferrell is going to be a

507
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 2: war that maybe breaks even. I don't know if it

508
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 2: breaks one way or the other. Christian Wilkins versus the

509
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 2: interior bit of the Bama line probably favors Clemson. But

510
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:21,680
Speaker 2: if we zoom out and think about this more holistically,

511
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 2: the foundation of Alabama's offense for umpteen years now under

512
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 2: Nick Saban has been that they can fall back on

513
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 2: the ground game if all the other stuff is at work,

514
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:33,920
Speaker 2: and they can always fall back on the ground game.

515
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 2: If Clemson can somehow alter that ground game, it puts

516
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,400
Speaker 2: a lot more pressure onto it. And I think that's

517
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 2: the key here. He's nicked up. He looked good last week.

518
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 1: He did. He moved well.

519
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 2: If you can force him to move around more, if

520
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:49,879
Speaker 2: you can force him to throw into tighter windows. He's

521
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 2: an accurate passer. But let's see what he can do

522
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 2: in another big game. Situation such as this, I think

523
00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:00,880
Speaker 2: the winning formula for Clemson's defense has to start with

524
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:04,200
Speaker 2: them curtailing that Alabama rushing attack to some degree.

525
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:07,480
Speaker 1: A really good sign for Clemson is just how many

526
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 1: bodies they rotate in and out. And Alabama does the

527
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 1: same thing on defense because as we saw last year

528
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,879
Speaker 1: in the National Championship Game, what ultimately obviously Tua was

529
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,360
Speaker 1: the big difference in the second half, But what did

530
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 1: we see from the Alabama offense? Which is something we've

531
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:24,719
Speaker 1: seen in years past. I will answer said question a

532
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:28,479
Speaker 1: weird running back closer. We had seen it in previous

533
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 1: years with both Scarborough as like, Okay, we're going to

534
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,199
Speaker 1: wear you down, wear you're down, all right? Here comes

535
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:36,120
Speaker 1: rod Beck. You know here here is I haven't said

536
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 1: the name rod Beck long time time. Okay, listen, you

537
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 1: give me an option to name check somebody with a

538
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 1: giant fu manchew. I'm just gonna do it this.

539
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 2: That's right.

540
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 1: Last year was Naje Harris. Najah Harris is once again

541
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 1: and again the best running back in the two thousand

542
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 1: and sixteen class, I want to say maybe seventeen class. Yeah,

543
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 1: he's the third string back you have Damien Harris, you

544
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 1: have Josh Bacobs. They're sort of Damian Harris is bigger,

545
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 1: Jacobs is sort of faster. Naja Harris is sort of everything.

546
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 1: And so if Clemson can avoid the sort of exhaustion

547
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:16,720
Speaker 1: that Georgia faced after going four quarters and overtime against Alabama,

548
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 1: that's going to be enormous because they just keep tapping

549
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 1: their shoulder to bring in the next writing. It's unbelievable

550
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 1: to me.

551
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 2: A couple other quick points here, Yeah, don't take your

552
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 2: eye off special teams in this game. Do not. If

553
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 2: there is one chink in the armor for Clemson for Alabama,

554
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 2: this is it. It's been a saft spot for both

555
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:43,720
Speaker 2: teams this season. And there's a prop. We're going to

556
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 2: talk quickly about some of the props towards the end

557
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 2: of this show. There is a prop I think it's

558
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 2: plus one ninety, which means you would bet ten dollars

559
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 2: to win nineteens saw this on there being a defensive

560
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 2: or special teams touchdown in the College Football Playoff National Championship,

561
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 2: which I don't believe has ever happened in the history

562
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 2: of college football Playoff National Championship games. I'd be willing

563
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 2: to throw a few shekels on that one because both

564
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 2: special teams are just shaky enough that something could break

565
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 2: one way or the other.

566
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 1: True. I think Clemson returned a punt for a touchdown

567
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 1: in Alabama returned a kick for a touchdown. And Alabama

568
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 1: has Jalen Waddle who is just absurd lightning, just absolutely crazy.

569
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 1: And we saw it what it was two three years ago?

570
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 1: I guess it was three years ago because it was

571
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 1: the year Alabama one the surprise on side kick. So

572
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 1: in terms of special teams playing a role here and

573
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 1: both of these teams having some busts in special teams,

574
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 1: can you imagine what would be going through the minds

575
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 1: and hearts of Alabama fans if it comes down to

576
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 1: like a forty eight yard field goal attempt and the

577
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 1: PTSD involved. And let's not actually feel bad for Alabama fans,

578
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 1: but even still, that's a reality of emotion. Yeah, I

579
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 1: think you're right. We would also probably not bet that

580
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 1: because I'm against fun, but I understand why you would

581
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 1: bet it, just because of the shakiness of the units involved.

582
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 2: What is the key matchup? To you though, if you're

583
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 2: picking one, what is the key matchup? That's going to

584
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 2: decide this game.

585
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 1: I think we probably already talked about it, Trevor Lawrence

586
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 1: throwing into the Alabama defense because so much we have

587
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 1: a concept of what Tua looks like repeatedly against top

588
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 1: flight defenses, and we know the line in front of

589
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 1: him is really good. In front of both quarterbacks, really,

590
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 1: we know the receivers are good. There is just something

591
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 1: about Alabama's secondary early on as mentioned, as we mentioned

592
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 1: giving up some bigger place and what we have Patrick

593
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 1: surtan junior or a true freshman starting on one side.

594
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 1: We have maybe the best safety in the country and

595
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 1: Deontay Thompson playing center field. But there there will be

596
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 1: yardage to be had. And looking at these props, one

597
00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,479
Speaker 1: that I really really do like as I think there

598
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 1: is an over under four longest pass completed for each

599
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 1: of these quarterbacks, and they're both around forty if I

600
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 1: remember correctly, it's about forty one and a half and

601
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 1: thirty nine and a half. I think both of these

602
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 1: quarterbacks complete forty five plus yard passes in this game. Okay,

603
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 1: but yes, in terms of the specific matchup that decides it,

604
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 1: it is Trevor Lawrence having enough time feeling common enough

605
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 1: and feeling confident enough, and there's every indication that he

606
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 1: will based on what we saw against Notre Name on

607
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 1: that big stage in I'm going to give my receiver

608
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 1: a chance to make a play against a top flight

609
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 1: secondary and it not check down all the time and

610
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 1: have coaches trust him to make big throws, you know,

611
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 1: post corner routes to the back pileon stuff like that.

612
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 1: What does he look like as a true freshman, because

613
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 1: we've had really good true freshman quarterbacks not like this

614
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 1: not being counted on on this level to make the

615
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 1: kinds of plays that he will have to make for

616
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 1: Clemson to beat a clear dynasty.

617
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 2: I think I'm honed in on Clemson's secondary.

618
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good point.

619
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Speaker 2: Against deep balls, against intermediate throws. Notre Dame left some

620
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 2: points on the board, and it was because Ian Book

621
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 2: couldn't stretch the field the deep ball, even some intermediate

622
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 2: throws they were there. If Tua gets time, he's gonna

623
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 2: do a lot better than he and Book. I think

624
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 2: we know that. We already know he throws a great

625
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 2: deep ball. In general, he's super accurate. On top of that,

626
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:37,239
Speaker 2: Bama has way more weaponry with Notre Dame. We had

627
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 2: Miles Boyk and we had Chase Claypool, we had Alase Mack.

628
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 2: Bama goes five deep.

629
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Speaker 1: I don't even think Jalen Wattle had to catch against Oklahoma.

630
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 2: They go five deep. They go five deep with guys

631
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 2: who could win one on one matchups. Yeah, you can

632
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 2: start with Jerry Judy and Henry Ruggs. He talked about

633
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 2: Jalen Waddle goes all the way down to earth Smith Junior.

634
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 2: They had five or on this team with at least

635
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 2: six touchdown receptions and six hundred yards on the year.

636
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 2: That's going to put a big strain on that secondary

637
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 2: and I think that's a matchup that favors Alabama. So

638
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 2: to that end, while we're talking about props, the one

639
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:15,959
Speaker 2: that jumps out at me, and I'm sure there are more.

640
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:18,399
Speaker 2: This is still pretty early on in the game. We're

641
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 2: doing this on a Thursday. They're gonna be more that

642
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 2: pop up. But the Vonte Smith over under forty seven

643
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:26,720
Speaker 2: and a half yards I think is a real interesting

644
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 2: proposition bet on the receiving side because Bam is going

645
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:33,800
Speaker 2: to put pressure on the guy a third or fourth

646
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 2: receiver tight end. Someone kind of in that wavelength is

647
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,239
Speaker 2: going to find themselves with a really big game here.

648
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:42,440
Speaker 2: And like you said, he is all or nothing. It

649
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 2: might only take one catch for him to get the

650
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 2: over there.

651
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,760
Speaker 1: I really like what's the rugs over under?

652
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:51,360
Speaker 2: The rugs over under is forty nine and a half yards.

653
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 1: I like that one a lot because I do anticipate

654
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 1: Clemson being able to get to a bunch. I mean

655
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 1: just in terms of short hitches and crossing routes, and

656
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 1: he's so good after the catch. Not that he doesn't

657
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 1: run deeper routes as well, but he is just so

658
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,880
Speaker 1: electric with the ball. That rugs to me almost feels

659
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 1: like a more consistent, a safer pick to me to

660
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,839
Speaker 1: eclipse the forty nine and a half whatever it is.

661
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:19,240
Speaker 2: Mine are all kind of interrelated and in a weird way.

662
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 2: I didn't plan this, I swear they all kind of

663
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,919
Speaker 2: work on what I was seeing when I was trying

664
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 2: to do some research on this one. So if you

665
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 2: assume two things. First off, that Alabama is going to

666
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 2: spread the rock around in the backfield, I'm going to

667
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,360
Speaker 2: give a bunch of carries out. Last week it was

668
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:38,399
Speaker 2: actually Josh Jacobs who led the team and carries If

669
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 2: you also assume that the defensive line for Clemson is

670
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:45,239
Speaker 2: going to somewhat curtail the rushing attack from Alabama, the

671
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 2: under for Damien Harris rushing yards at fifty and a

672
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 2: half seems like a pretty good bet. I don't like

673
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 2: to root for unders because it's just not fun, right,

674
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:57,759
Speaker 2: But I think from a betting perspective, under fifty and

675
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:00,359
Speaker 2: a half yards is a pretty good bet there.

676
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, the coolest person at the sports bar is the

677
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:04,840
Speaker 1: one who says, ah, I have the under. No, I

678
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 1: don't want to be watched a terrible game, and I

679
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:07,240
Speaker 1: don't offing.

680
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 2: So with that being said, if the running game isn't there,

681
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 2: it puts more pressure on Tua to throw it, and

682
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 2: I think over two and a half passing touchdowns is

683
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 2: the move for Tua.

684
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,319
Speaker 1: I could see, By the way, what's what two for

685
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence? Two?

686
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:21,839
Speaker 2: Yeah?

687
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 1: Could could one hundred percent see him vulturing his own

688
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:28,880
Speaker 1: touchdown over under and running it in from like the

689
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 1: four on a keep or something like that when he

690
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:35,280
Speaker 1: has two already and just pushes. Could one hundred percent

691
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:37,320
Speaker 1: see that. By the way, I don't know if you

692
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,399
Speaker 1: noticed this, because you were probably spiking all of your

693
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 1: electronics during the Notre Dame Clemson game. Is I had

694
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 1: always been under the impression it was Cleland Ferrell, Okay,

695
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,959
Speaker 1: but I think who is calling was Sean McDonough, your boy,

696
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 1: It was my guy, Sean McDonough. He was making a

697
00:36:55,200 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 1: point of saying Cleveland furl Yeah. And this is probablyably

698
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,280
Speaker 1: something all Clemson fans already knew. But it did remind

699
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 1: me of like the Monty Monte ball Mario Ta, where

700
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 1: Sean McDonough, who I'm positive does more research into his

701
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 1: games than humanly possible.

702
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 2: It was.

703
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 1: It was a nice little nugget that I hope is

704
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 1: true that we're it's just Ferral Mario Ta, Mario Ta, Tunga.

705
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 1: So back to your point, though, I think you're right.

706
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 1: I think you're right about everything. I like the way

707
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 1: you're leaning with the props.

708
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 2: My final prediction here is Alabama thirty three, Clemson twenty eight.

709
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 2: I think a good game. I think a tight game.

710
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 2: I would not want to be on the side of

711
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 2: Alabama or Clemson for that matter. Minus anything this is.

712
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 1: That's almost the exact overunder that it opened out.

713
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 2: I think it was.

714
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 1: It was a sixty one ish, maybe sixty one and

715
00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 1: a half with like a five six point so you're

716
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 1: right there.

717
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, thirty three to twenty eight feels about right to me.

718
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 2: Would not want to lay six points here. I feel

719
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 2: like these teams are pretty close. These games have a

720
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 2: tendency to either make it closer or turn it into

721
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 2: a blowout, and I think it's going to make it closer.

722
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 2: Thirty three twenty eights my final.

723
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:25,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm I'm going to be the under guy, which

724
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 1: is the worst way to announce yourself as a superhero. Sure, yeah,

725
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,760
Speaker 1: I'm going to be the under guy. I have twenty

726
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 1: eight to twenty three. I have it as almost a

727
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:35,880
Speaker 1: very Rose Bowl ish game. I think it's a slower

728
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 1: start for Clemson. I think they storm back impressively, but

729
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 1: it's not quite enough, and so I'm going with the

730
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 1: under here. I think it's relatively low scoring because of

731
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 1: these defenses, because of each of these teams pass rushes,

732
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 1: and so somewhere in that vicinity. Now, it's probably prudent

733
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 1: to ask another question. If there is a blowout, it's

734
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:00,959
Speaker 1: definitely Alabama winning.

735
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:02,799
Speaker 2: I would say most likely.

736
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:06,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, because it's we should have asked that question

737
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 1: before the playoff because I would have been able to

738
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 1: revel in a correct prediction for once this season. But yes,

739
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 1: it probably is Alabama. And somebody asked us, we're gonna

740
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 1: review some Twitter questions here in a moment, and we

741
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 1: can just go into it right now. Alabama is in

742
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:23,400
Speaker 1: pretty good shape if to a randomly rolls an ankle,

743
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 1: which we are not hoping for at all. No, you know,

744
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 1: reinjures the ankle, that is hurt. Trevor Lawrence gets hurt.

745
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a problem.

746
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 1: That's it.

747
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 2: That's problem.

748
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 1: Well, there's no disrespect to Chase Bryce seems like a

749
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 1: perfectly nice young man. We're sold. I think that's that.

750
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 1: I think that's all she wrote. So yeah, I think

751
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:49,240
Speaker 1: that if there is a blowout, it's Alabama over Clemson.

752
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 1: But wouldn't it be something if Clemson just laid the wood?

753
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 2: Yeah? That would be some wouldn't it.

754
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 1: If it was like, oh, Clemson just won the national

755
00:39:57,040 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 1: championship of thirty eight to ten, they just boat raised

756
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:03,279
Speaker 1: them and then slowly crock potted them, whatever verbiage you

757
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 1: want to use. That would it would feel out of nowhere?

758
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:09,840
Speaker 2: All right, So here's the deal. You got questions hopefully

759
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:13,319
Speaker 2: we've got some answers. I'll start with the question that

760
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 2: I actually didn't ask you yet. I suppose I know

761
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:19,239
Speaker 2: the answer. But we did some halftime streams during the

762
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:24,839
Speaker 2: two playoff semi finals. Can people expect more streams from

763
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:29,240
Speaker 2: you and I on Monday evening? Maybe pregame, maybe during halftame,

764
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 2: maybe a quick one postgame.

765
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 1: I mean sure, let us know if you prefer which

766
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 1: time all times, I don't know. We'll do whatever you

767
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 1: guys want, but I'm I'm game. It'll be Instagram, right,

768
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 1: solid Veroble with the Instagram handle. It'll be on Instagram

769
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:46,399
Speaker 1: because I don't think you can easily do side by

770
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 1: side on periscope. But if you feel like doing something

771
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 1: on periscope, by all means do something on periscope from

772
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 1: the Solid verbal account. But yes, it'll be Instagram. It

773
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 1: will be maybe maybe we'll do something pre game, answer

774
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 1: some questions and do halftime in post game? Yeah? Why not?

775
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 2: All right?

776
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:04,719
Speaker 1: Also, there's no coaches show. Did you see that?

777
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:08,359
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I'm fit to be tied over this.

778
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:13,919
Speaker 2: So the Coaches Film Room has effectively been replaced now

779
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 2: by the Monday Night Football Film Room, which features Joe

780
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 2: Tessitour who we love. We love Joe Tessitour sure, as

781
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 2: well as Jason Witten, Booger McFarlane and Todd McShay, like

782
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 2: Todd McShay as well. That I just you know, I

783
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 2: might be another out of touch podcaster. I'm just not

784
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:34,840
Speaker 2: sure people were begging for more Jason Witten in their college.

785
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:36,319
Speaker 1: Football coach at home.

786
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 2: Maybe it's just me. I don't I don't know if

787
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 2: it's just me.

788
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 1: Here was my question? Really, do you think it was

789
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:45,880
Speaker 1: ESPN saying, you know what, we're going to try something

790
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 1: new and try to put our Monday Night football crew

791
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:52,799
Speaker 1: in a more forward facing college roles people can get

792
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:57,399
Speaker 1: used to them all over the sports spectrum. Or do

793
00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 1: you think the only coaches they can confirm were not

794
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 1: big enough? No, I think they pulled the plug.

795
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 2: I think it's they signed Jason Witten to a big

796
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,839
Speaker 2: contract and now they want to try and get their

797
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:11,760
Speaker 2: money's worth. Okay, you know, like they bought the Suvied

798
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 2: cooker and now they want to cook everything with the

799
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:14,280
Speaker 2: Suvied cooker.

800
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think that's entirely possible. I just

801
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:21,479
Speaker 1: am I am very hopeful that somebody at ESPN said

802
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 1: all right, we've got Chris ash, We've got Luke Fickle.

803
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 2: We've got I know that's not true. You know that's

804
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 2: not true.

805
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 1: I know they can. They can get big names. They've

806
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:33,880
Speaker 1: got Kilani Sataki, right, and that's it. And it just

807
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:36,879
Speaker 1: with the roster. I'll due respect to all of those

808
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 1: coaches who do varying degrees of jobs. I think it's possible.

809
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 1: I think it's possible that maybe they had one big

810
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 1: name because you can get Mac Brown. You can obviously

811
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:49,320
Speaker 1: get Mac Brown.

812
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:51,760
Speaker 2: Even if you only have three guys or two guys

813
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:53,360
Speaker 2: in the booth.

814
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 1: Even if it were just the coaches that work for ESPN.

815
00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 1: I know a lot of people don't love Jim Mora,

816
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:01,360
Speaker 1: but if you just had like a very nerdy film

817
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:04,879
Speaker 1: room with maybe a recently retired coach I don't know.

818
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 2: Whoever, still can add texture to the coverage. They still

819
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:10,400
Speaker 2: know what they're doing to some degree.

820
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:15,239
Speaker 1: Put Ricked on camera, Put Ricked on camera, and try

821
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 1: to get I mean it's a tough ass, but like,

822
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 1: get Brian Kelly and Lincoln Riley.

823
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 2: What about Urban? What's he doing?

824
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:26,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, Urban's got ESPN do that. Well, he's he's teaching.

825
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 1: He's a professor now, ty, Yeah, that was disappointing. And

826
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,720
Speaker 1: again we put this off route on Twitter. If any

827
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 1: FBS head coach wants to come over to either one

828
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:40,319
Speaker 1: of our places an Eastern PA or in New York,

829
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:43,440
Speaker 1: we will feed you. We will put a webcam on

830
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:46,279
Speaker 1: you and we will we will stream out the game

831
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:50,280
Speaker 1: the camera facing the couch, not the TV screen.

832
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 2: Extremely low rent, but we'll do it. I'll drive to

833
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:54,759
Speaker 2: your place, you can drive to mind. We'll figure out what.

834
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 1: We will feed you. Yeah, so I have I have

835
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 1: twenty eight twenty three. I'm going to miss the film room.

836
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:00,840
Speaker 1: I'm not going to watch the halftime concert. Do you

837
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:08,319
Speaker 1: have a final hopfensive coordinator recommendation? Because I do? Okay,

838
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 1: because you have you go first. We have a brewery

839
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 1: that we are just enormous fans of that is probably

840
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 1: the college football brewery in America. That's Druid City. Yeah,

841
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 1: in Tuscaloosa, Alabama. I don't know their distribution plan. I

842
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 1: don't know how far and wide they are available, but

843
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 1: if you can get your hands on some Druid City.

844
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 1: They are not paying us, they are not sponsors. We

845
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 1: just know and appreciate their enthusiasm for the sport. That

846
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:36,879
Speaker 1: would be my pick.

847
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 2: Okay, I need more time to think. I was not

848
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 2: prepared for this.

849
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 1: I know I caught you off guard here.

850
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:43,440
Speaker 2: So let's let's talk about some other questions here and

851
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:47,240
Speaker 2: then we'll work at with my final hop offensive coordinator suggestion.

852
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 1: Okay, let's go to. Number one is from Ian what

853
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:53,880
Speaker 1: is the drop off from Dexter Lawrence at defensive tackle

854
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:56,800
Speaker 1: to Albert Huggins who started against No, not that big?

855
00:44:57,239 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 2: Not that big?

856
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 1: Do you seem to be successful? You see like he

857
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:02,400
Speaker 1: could do a pretty good job there, Dan, Yeah, we

858
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:07,320
Speaker 1: mentioned this before. He is primarily his strength, primarily according

859
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 1: to people who are more familiar with him than we are,

860
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:12,840
Speaker 1: is getting after the passer more so than he's not

861
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 1: a double team necessity against the run. So maybe that's

862
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:21,440
Speaker 1: a big difference of Alabama really plans on pounding the

863
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 1: ball on the ground, Maybe that's a difference. But in

864
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 1: terms of actual talent and technique, drop off is not

865
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 1: does not seem at least to be significant. And he also,

866
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 1: as we mentioned, everybody on this defense rotates in and out,

867
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:36,399
Speaker 1: so he was already playing twenty twenty five snaps a game.

868
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:37,720
Speaker 1: Against the better team.

869
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:39,360
Speaker 2: I'm not worried about that too much.

870
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 1: Do you think Travis Ctn This just came in from Elliott,

871
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 1: not East Coast Elliott, just Anne Elliott's Well Elliott. Do

872
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:50,800
Speaker 1: you think Travistn can exploit Alabama through the air slash

873
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:53,360
Speaker 1: ground like Swift sixty three yards in the air and

874
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 1: seventy five yards on the ground in the SEC Championship game.

875
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 1: That's a good question.

876
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 2: That's a really good question. So you were talking about

877
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 2: guys going over the middle and about Clemson not having

878
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 2: not having so much that tight end threat. They're leading

879
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 2: tight end this season had something like six catches. Travis

880
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 2: Etn wasn't noted for coming out of the backfield much,

881
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:17,719
Speaker 2: only had eleven catches one touchdown on the year. I'd

882
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 2: be curious to see if he's a guy that they

883
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 2: can be a little bit more creative within this game,

884
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 2: if they're looking to exploit the middle, if they can't

885
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 2: do it with Hunter renfro If, Etn out of the

886
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 2: backfield could play more of that DeAndre Swift role.

887
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm that's interesting to me and I think the

888
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:42,279
Speaker 1: answer is probably somewhat. But what's true of these Alabama

889
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:45,840
Speaker 1: defenses that we've seen is as soon as somebody finds

890
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 1: a hole, this staff is very quick to plug it.

891
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 1: And I imagine they're going to have some answers with

892
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 1: a very athletic linebacking corps and they're not going to

893
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 1: be able to run stride for stride with Travis etn

894
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 1: but something sort of bracketing. We got a question about.

895
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:05,479
Speaker 1: Let me find the actual question, but it was about

896
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 1: RPOs and how there we go. This is from Zay, which,

897
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:13,400
Speaker 1: by the way, great name, totally undernted, underrated name, Zane.

898
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 1: I like you, great name, Zay, Who's Twitter handle is

899
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:22,439
Speaker 1: Crimson Tide twenty eight. So okay, a neutral observer, Sure,

900
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 1: how does Clemson defend Bama's RPOs? First of all, yeah,

901
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 1: I don't know. Second of all. Second of all, we

902
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 1: actually did a show with our dear dear friend Chris B.

903
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:38,239
Speaker 1: Brown Krispy of Smart Football, and he talked a lot

904
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:42,319
Speaker 1: about what the most successful defensive minds have tried to

905
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 1: do and have had some success with in playing against

906
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:50,239
Speaker 1: teams that run a lot of RPO stuff, and not

907
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:53,319
Speaker 1: to get overly technical, both because it's not really good

908
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:56,319
Speaker 1: to get overly technical and audio form and Also, I

909
00:47:56,320 --> 00:48:00,120
Speaker 1: don't fully know what I'm talking about, but it's a

910
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 1: lot of bracketing. It's a lot of breaking the actual

911
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 1: defense down into multiple parts of the field and saying, Okay,

912
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 1: these three guys are bracketing here. And it's a lot

913
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 1: of being very hopeful that you can get pressure really

914
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 1: quickly and get hands up. You get those you start

915
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 1: throwing into a forest. RPOs become difficult to a Tongo

916
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:23,840
Speaker 1: Ba Low for all that he is not the tallest.

917
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 2: Dude in the world too, No, he's not Trevor Lawrence.

918
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:29,240
Speaker 1: So it's a lot of disruption. It's some chance taking,

919
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:31,799
Speaker 1: but again it's to a reading specific player, so it's

920
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:35,399
Speaker 1: not like you can do something specific. You can't necessarily

921
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 1: always dictate what the offense does because they're waiting for

922
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 1: you to make a move or not make a move,

923
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:44,960
Speaker 1: and they'll just hand it off. So I think it's

924
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:46,920
Speaker 1: going to be a lot of that. There's a reason

925
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 1: Clemson has perhaps the best defense in the country, and

926
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 1: it's because teams try to throw a lot at them

927
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:56,720
Speaker 1: and it does nothing much sticks. So I imagine nothing

928
00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 1: will be dramatically different with the way that Clemson handles

929
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 1: these things. Their linebackers are I think they've got I mean,

930
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 1: Kendall Joseph is still there, right, he's been there for

931
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:12,240
Speaker 1: seventeen years. But yes, correct, Their linebackers are really, really good.

932
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 1: I don't know if they're fully on the level of

933
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:17,760
Speaker 1: previous years linebackers, and that's mostly because they really haven't

934
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:21,360
Speaker 1: been tested. So I imagine it's going to be that

935
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:27,959
Speaker 1: sort of communication bracketing and saying okay, like this five

936
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:31,800
Speaker 1: by five yard chunk is me. And it's that matchup

937
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:35,400
Speaker 1: zone mentality that Alabama has run probably better than anybody else.

938
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 1: So you know, you're showing things. What was the phrase

939
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:41,400
Speaker 1: that you had never heard of seeing ghosts?

940
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:43,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's making.

941
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:45,880
Speaker 1: It's making to a sea ghost. By the way, I

942
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 1: got a text from our friend Yogi Roth, Yeah, from

943
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:53,279
Speaker 1: the PAC twelve network, and the text was never heard

944
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 1: of seeing ghosts? Come on, ty?

945
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, that's fine. You ever here at Globe Tomatoes?

946
00:49:59,040 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 1: Me?

947
00:49:59,200 --> 00:49:59,439
Speaker 2: Neither.

948
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 1: No, Ty, this is you're onto something that I'm not.

949
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:05,239
Speaker 1: Your hip to a new breed of tomato, that's right.

950
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:08,239
Speaker 1: So I think that's what it is. I think what

951
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 1: it is going to come down to is making plays,

952
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 1: keeping the ball in front of you maybe forcing the

953
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 1: give and hoping for the best with with the interior

954
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 1: of your defensive line.

955
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:22,399
Speaker 2: All right, two more really quick questions. Close out strong, Dan,

956
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 2: close out strong? One final game here Clemson Alabama for

957
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 2: all the marbles.

958
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 1: Well Steven wants to know. Yeah, cowards, analyze the real

959
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 1: title game. You have North Dakota State or Eastern Washington State. Yeah,

960
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 1: Bison minus fourteen with a coach heading elsewhere.

961
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:41,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I go Bison. I'm not I played that

962
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:45,320
Speaker 2: game before. I'm not going there again. By minus anything.

963
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 1: Kogiate's keeping it close. Thirty five. Oh, that's pretty much

964
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 1: all of the questions that are directly related to this.

965
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 1: I will close with the same sort of thought that

966
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:03,360
Speaker 1: we sort of opened the show, and that is relative

967
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 1: to I guess other games this year, relative to previous

968
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 1: national championship games or previous big college football games. We

969
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:14,719
Speaker 1: are in agreement that we are interested in all sorts

970
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:18,920
Speaker 1: of angles with this game as a story, as a

971
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:24,280
Speaker 1: broader narrative. Where does this game register in your mind

972
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 1: with I don't know what the height is with something

973
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:29,480
Speaker 1: like that for you, if it was USC Texas, if

974
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 1: it was like a huge Notre Dame USC matchup, if

975
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:36,480
Speaker 1: it was whatever it was, I don't know. But in

976
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:43,320
Speaker 1: terms of the Thai excitement ometer, the football arousal zone

977
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 1: of your brain.

978
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:46,239
Speaker 2: Wow, that's deep.

979
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:49,480
Speaker 1: Are there neurons firing on a high level?

980
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:54,360
Speaker 2: There will be on Monday night? Okay, there will be

981
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:56,440
Speaker 2: on Monday night. We do a college football show. We've

982
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:58,800
Speaker 2: done it for ten years. Yeah, there's not going to

983
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:01,440
Speaker 2: be a national championship game that I don't get fired

984
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 2: up for, and I think this is no different. I'm

985
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:06,920
Speaker 2: excited to watch this game. It might not have the

986
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 2: high level intrigue that some other games have had, but

987
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:12,160
Speaker 2: when this one rolls around on Monday evening, I'm going

988
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:15,360
Speaker 2: to be fired up, and I'm going to be drinking

989
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:19,839
Speaker 2: some dogfish Head Midas touch. You love that dogfish Head

990
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:22,839
Speaker 2: Midas touch. You don't need much of it. We all

991
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:25,799
Speaker 2: got to go to work the next day. Which quarterback,

992
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 2: which team will have the Midas touch?

993
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 1: Oh? Oh, okay, So you're taking the slide over. I'm

994
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 1: taking actually a healthy under. We both are taking the points,

995
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 1: but taking Clemson to the points right, yes, yep, correct

996
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 1: about five points, but sort of barely. And we're just

997
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:51,880
Speaker 1: hoping for drama. I think that's why this is this Actually,

998
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:54,759
Speaker 1: to answer my own question, it still registers pretty low.

999
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:57,799
Speaker 1: I remember being pretty excited about Florida State Auburn and

1000
00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 1: the crazy offense at Florida State had that year, and

1001
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 1: how strongly Auburn, especially on offense, finished out that it

1002
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:05,360
Speaker 1: would have been what twenty thirteen?

1003
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, right.

1004
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:11,759
Speaker 1: Getting the rematch of Alabama Clemson with Deshaun Watson was

1005
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 1: pretty incredible to me. I'm just looking at the game

1006
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 1: since we started the show. I'm not counting Oregon games

1007
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:20,680
Speaker 1: because obviously I was excited for for those, so I

1008
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:24,360
Speaker 1: think we're in like, well, we're in a tenth eleventh year. No,

1009
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:27,319
Speaker 1: this is probably six seven, eighth somewhere in there for me.

1010
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:30,800
Speaker 2: All right. Well, on that note, we both like Bama

1011
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 2: to win, Clemson to cover. Do stay tuned to our

1012
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:38,839
Speaker 2: Twitter feed, our Facebook page, our Instagram account, where we're

1013
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:41,319
Speaker 2: gonna be doing some live video. Stay tuned for the

1014
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:46,319
Speaker 2: Whares and Whens. As always, please reach out soliverbleatgmail dot

1015
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 2: com if you've got something to say. We welcome any

1016
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:52,439
Speaker 2: and all feedback as we build towards the capstone game

1017
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:55,239
Speaker 2: in the college football season. One more time. It is

1018
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:59,919
Speaker 2: Clemson it is Alabama. Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, children, vully.

1019
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:02,880
Speaker 2: Just enjoy the football game. On Monday evening, we'll be

1020
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:07,400
Speaker 2: back with you in podcast form. I don't know what

1021
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 2: midday Tuesday.

1022
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:12,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll record first thing Tuesday, and we're not going

1023
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:14,880
Speaker 1: to stay up until one am. We've done that in

1024
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:17,279
Speaker 1: the past and we've been on site. Yeah, we'll wake

1025
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:20,400
Speaker 1: we're old, we're washed. We'll wake up first thing Tuesday morning.

1026
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 1: We'll record and we'll get something out to you, hopefully

1027
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:25,839
Speaker 1: by around lunchtime Tuesday, Eastern time.

1028
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:27,880
Speaker 2: For that guy over there, my good friend Dan Rubensteed.

1029
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:32,400
Speaker 2: For myself, Tie Hildon Brandt, enjoy the game, enjoy your weekends,

1030
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:33,920
Speaker 2: Stay solid, peace,