Speaker 1: So I've been pretty lucky lately. I've been getting to
Speaker 1: spend all of my days with my amazing older sister,
Speaker 1: Katherine Power's dream come true. It really is. We've always
Speaker 1: like communal living, I know, and it has not been hard. No,
Speaker 1: because you and I are very honest with each other too.
Speaker 1: No begrudging weirdness. Do you feel like it took a
Speaker 1: minute for us to get here? How's our journey as
Speaker 1: siblings gone? Oh gosh, get a nutshell. I think God
Speaker 1: gave us each other to be the best humans we
Speaker 1: could be because our brains cannot be more opposite. It's
Speaker 1: so true. But I am such a better human for
Speaker 1: loving you, and I am such a better human for
Speaker 1: loving you because I was sitting there. Oh, this is
Speaker 1: what I was reading in Gay Gaddis. So everyone needs
Speaker 1: to check out Gay Gaddis's book. Um, oh gosh, a
Speaker 1: Cowgirls A Guide to Kicking Us. I forgot what it's called,
Speaker 1: gay gaddas dot com gay gadas dot com. She had
Speaker 1: on her new letter that I'm a part of the
Speaker 1: you know what, I need to just read it because
Speaker 1: I will mess it up. Okay, I'm gonna read this
Speaker 1: because I thought of you. Sister, I thought of, here's
Speaker 1: what it says talking about right now in the lockdown,
Speaker 1: she said something about the sorry everyone, I don't want
Speaker 1: to mess this up. She said, the the ones who
Speaker 1: can hold their composure. I'm not finding it. Who can
Speaker 1: hold their composure in the middle of all of this
Speaker 1: are the leaders of tomorrow and I and I really
Speaker 1: thought that I can't find it, and I'm really sad
Speaker 1: about it because it was a really good, um little thing. Anyway,
Speaker 1: check her out gay guyas dot com. But she's basically saying,
Speaker 1: the people who can stay positive and like find silver
Speaker 1: lining and keep their head above water in the these
Speaker 1: kinds of times are the leaders up tomorrow. And I
Speaker 1: thought to myself, that is your sister, Like that is you,
Speaker 1: and that is totally how you have always been. And
Speaker 1: you even like recently our grandfather is had had a
Speaker 1: hip surgery and he's you know, it's been hard to
Speaker 1: navigate what to do, especially in coronavirus, but you have
Speaker 1: just stepped up. You find a plan, you find a solution.
Speaker 1: You don't get lost in your feelings so much that
Speaker 1: you feel stuff, but you don't just swim in the feelings.
Speaker 1: You're like, Okay, what's our plan, what's our action? How
Speaker 1: do we do this? And then not only do you
Speaker 1: think that way, you actually do it and you do
Speaker 1: all the action stuffs and make it happen, like you
Speaker 1: have like a full plan with like you've already called
Speaker 1: like four different assistant livings and all sorts of stuff,
Speaker 1: and like you talk to my aunt, my mom, everyone,
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden there's like this perfect plan
Speaker 1: in place. I'm like, are you a wizard? No? I
Speaker 1: think the older, the older I've gotten the world is
Speaker 1: so daunting. I've really made a conscious decision to focus
Speaker 1: on what I can control. I'm really let go of
Speaker 1: Sorry I don't have Corona Corona Texas allergies. I made
Speaker 1: a conscious decision to focus on what I can control
Speaker 1: and let go of what I can't. And it's allowed
Speaker 1: me to live in freedom and not in fear. Because
Speaker 1: when you're trying to I'm a type one type of personality,
Speaker 1: and so when you're trying to make sense of everything,
Speaker 1: it's daunting. If everything that crosses your path through giving
Speaker 1: feelings to you're trying to control, you're trying to fix
Speaker 1: not that not And I felt compelled to try to
Speaker 1: do everything and I've acknowledged now that everybody is so
Speaker 1: gifted and unique, and to focus on the best thing
Speaker 1: about everybody and then focus on what I can control
Speaker 1: and let go of what I can and it's freed me.
Speaker 1: It's change my life. It has because I was, I
Speaker 1: was in bondage to expectations, and you know the way
Speaker 1: my brain is wired. I now know. I have thoughts
Speaker 1: on how like for you, for instance, I've seen you
Speaker 1: in this light. I mean, you're living your best life.
Speaker 1: And I've seen you in this light always, even when
Speaker 1: you weren't here, and it's a weird thing. And now
Speaker 1: I realize it's something. It's a gift if you use
Speaker 1: it as a gift, or it's a burden if you
Speaker 1: let it drag you down. And that's such a good point.
Speaker 1: I want to live in the light. I want to
Speaker 1: enjoy people. I mean, the world, despite the craziness, is
Speaker 1: such an interesting, wonderful place. And I feel like right
Speaker 1: now we see that because we're blessed beyond measure by
Speaker 1: incredible people. And you intentionally get to keep up with
Speaker 1: these incredible people. So how did we start on this?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I feel like I cut you off
Speaker 1: in the first question, did I bin? So that's how
Speaker 1: we were talking about our different brains. Do you have
Speaker 1: the high high fields and the low low fields? And
Speaker 1: I will say, you've really helped our family be want
Speaker 1: be real with our feelings. You know, I feel like
Speaker 1: we're tough and we can. You know, we were raised.
Speaker 1: You wrote that song about I come from a long
Speaker 1: line and women that never gave up? Did I have
Speaker 1: all these songs about three people? Know? And so I
Speaker 1: feel like we're so tough and we were you know.
Speaker 1: I love our endurance. But I feel like you've really
Speaker 1: helped us, or helped me feel and connect and be
Speaker 1: true and honest and say what we feel like. I
Speaker 1: really have gotten to a point because of you, your
Speaker 1: therapy and all the vicariously she makes me feel good
Speaker 1: because I always feel like a hot mess. No, all
Speaker 1: of the working on yourself has helped me work on myself,
Speaker 1: Like I truly feel like I can be honestly myself
Speaker 1: and you've helped me come that way because I didn't
Speaker 1: even know what I was feeling for a minute. But
Speaker 1: you've always been good at reading self help and journaling
Speaker 1: and taking note of your big deal. I saw Obrah
Speaker 1: the week before, Corona went down, held hands and hugged.
Speaker 1: But what did her hand feel like? I asked you,
Speaker 1: she's calm, just I mean grounding. She's so she's grounded.
Speaker 1: How do you think people that know who they are
Speaker 1: and what they're going going for? Or stable? Your rudder
Speaker 1: is firm and stable and you're not. I was reading
Speaker 1: a devotional this morning, and when your rudder is stable,
Speaker 1: the winds don't. You don't spin in circles like you're
Speaker 1: you're straight and you're on a path. And I think
Speaker 1: if you don't even necessarily have to know where you're going,
Speaker 1: but if you know generally what you're going for, I
Speaker 1: feel like it just helps you make make stay calmer
Speaker 1: during the thrashing. What are you going for? I'm going
Speaker 1: I really want to be present in every moment, Like
Speaker 1: as a mom. Now, that's what I'm I. I live
Speaker 1: by to do list. I'm Type A and so I
Speaker 1: always have it to do list every day I wake up,
Speaker 1: What am I going to do today? What am I
Speaker 1: going to do this week? I mean nauseating to a
Speaker 1: brain like you or but it's also really like the
Speaker 1: list now, I like to listen. I like a type
Speaker 1: A sister who wants to get everything. Okay, I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna ride the wave behind you. And I have, I think, uh,
Speaker 1: a knee to control, to compensate for the the like
Speaker 1: the ego or the insecurity of that type a wanting
Speaker 1: to be in charge. But for what is the ego
Speaker 1: or the insecurity? What's the flip side of it? Well,
Speaker 1: is seeing the beauty of everybody's individuality, not trying to
Speaker 1: control the situation, but showing up and letting people be
Speaker 1: who they are and seeing them for what they have
Speaker 1: to offer. So you have to flip your brain, yes,
Speaker 1: because I used to view people as, oh, here's this
Speaker 1: person and for whatever reason, not that I know better,
Speaker 1: but I felt like, how can I help them? What
Speaker 1: can I do for them? Oh, let me do your
Speaker 1: laundry and make your food, or help you get a job,
Speaker 1: or edit your resume, or cook you meals or drive
Speaker 1: you to your doctor's appointment and figure out your whole
Speaker 1: life like you did from me, which I appreciated. You
Speaker 1: had to find your own way, like ultimately, for to
Speaker 1: have joy, you have to figure it out yourself. And
Speaker 1: so now my goal is to walk alongside people like
Speaker 1: be your partner always be there for you as much
Speaker 1: as you can, but to let everyone's on their own
Speaker 1: path and you don't know what that is the only
Speaker 1: for me, I think the way you can show up
Speaker 1: for people is just acknowledging that loving them, being there
Speaker 1: for them, but not having an expectation. Expectations will kill you.
Speaker 1: The thing though, that must be daunting and frustrating for you,
Speaker 1: because I would be frustrated if I was you. You
Speaker 1: have the ability to do. It's like Genevieve, your daughter.
Speaker 1: Genevieve is such a perfect mix of you and Willie.
Speaker 1: It's so fun to watch her because now she's nine
Speaker 1: and she's like, she's got Willie's wild, creative, like let's
Speaker 1: go get dirty in the mud and run around totally.
Speaker 1: She's scared. Ain't scared, en nothing shooting a gun and
Speaker 1: not driving a car. I mean use it all that too, though.
Speaker 1: I mean you were very capable, but then she has
Speaker 1: your ability to Like I have told her how to
Speaker 1: take care of Sonny one time. On everything. I was
Speaker 1: just like, okay, when we get her up, we will
Speaker 1: turn off this machine, take her out of her sleep.
Speaker 1: Sack um, change your diaper. I showed her how to
Speaker 1: change the diaper because their diaper is a little big
Speaker 1: to put the the everything perfectly, like she doesn't skip
Speaker 1: a step, and then she's so joyful and fun. And
Speaker 1: that's what you have, Like you have that ability to
Speaker 1: never skip steps. So where I was going with this
Speaker 1: is it would be frustrating to me if I was you,
Speaker 1: and not only was I so capable like you are
Speaker 1: to do all these things, so smart to think in
Speaker 1: a way to figure them out, then you have the
Speaker 1: ability to like you make them happen and it doesn't
Speaker 1: feel hard for you, Like it's not like that. The
Speaker 1: fun memories are not that planned out stuff. But I
Speaker 1: would be frustrated if I was you, if I was
Speaker 1: dealing like someone like me who literally my brain when
Speaker 1: I have chores and task and learning and things to do,
Speaker 1: like it shuts down. I get this like buzz feeling
Speaker 1: in my head back to you on an amazing race.
Speaker 1: But I'll how to read a manual to put together
Speaker 1: that car, like reading instructions that your nightmare? Yeah, you
Speaker 1: freaked out. See all these things that have to be
Speaker 1: done in my brain, it overwhelms it and it just
Speaker 1: shuts it out. Oh I love Amnuel. We got new
Speaker 1: internet out here, give me instructions and a plan. And
Speaker 1: but you you see like one thousand puzzle pieces laying
Speaker 1: on the table. I love it, and you're like, nobody
Speaker 1: do this until I wake up. I'm like, please, don't worry.
Speaker 1: I'm not even coming near the puzzle table. But I
Speaker 1: think now, because I like to be in control, so
Speaker 1: it's great if I don't have to compete, I can
Speaker 1: just do it. Lazy people out here aren't going to
Speaker 1: think that at all. I don't see it that way.
Speaker 1: Like the way my brain is wired. You and you
Speaker 1: had so much fun, Like a plan is boring. I
Speaker 1: mean it's essential, especially when you're surviving and you're feeding
Speaker 1: and cleaning, and I thrive on a routine. But the
Speaker 1: memories I always think. So my freshman year in college,
Speaker 1: one of our pleets sisters, Melissa Cafee, was killed in
Speaker 1: front of all of us. It was hit by a car.
Speaker 1: It was horrible, a total tragic. It could have been
Speaker 1: any of us. Baylor. We went to Baylor, we were
Speaker 1: all right there, the streets are dark, it couldn't nobody
Speaker 1: was drinking. I mean, it was pure, just freak accident.
Speaker 1: And honestly, that change my thinking because today has to
Speaker 1: be a good day. You said that every day. Every
Speaker 1: time I call you, You're like, today is a good
Speaker 1: day because there's no guarantee. I mean, Corona, all these
Speaker 1: weird things, and I don't want to live in fear
Speaker 1: because I don't want to miss out on the beauty
Speaker 1: of today. And I think your personality and Willie and
Speaker 1: Genevieve y'all have helped me be fun, have dance parties,
Speaker 1: be weird, get muddy. Who cares if you get money?
Speaker 1: It's so fun to be muddy. You can take a shower.
Speaker 1: You can take a shower. I mean you have to
Speaker 1: get over that, like, oh my gosh, don't have to
Speaker 1: clean the house, clean the laundry, clean the kid all that.
Speaker 1: It's like, who cares? Well if you're going for the
Speaker 1: moments and the memories. I think at the end of
Speaker 1: I always say too that one day in my house
Speaker 1: is going to be clean and small white mothballs. Like
Speaker 1: right now it's a muddy mess. But if I died tomorrow,
Speaker 1: today was a great day. And we enjoyed the mud
Speaker 1: and the being outside, and the rabbit that hot by
Speaker 1: the window, the rabbit and the bunny, the two dogs
Speaker 1: and the hair everywhere. But I don't know. I think
Speaker 1: that is something that's probably that's what I always say.
Speaker 1: I'm going for, like just to be present and you
Speaker 1: don't have to say yes to everything, but just trying.
Speaker 1: You're the one that told us if it's not a yes,
Speaker 1: it's a if it's not a hell, yes, it's no.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I got that from a podcast I listened to,
Speaker 1: but that Michael and I use that all the time,
Speaker 1: and I forget that, but I when I remember it,
Speaker 1: it's so true. If it's not a hell, yes, it's
Speaker 1: And here's the thing, Like, I have this like this
Speaker 1: need to keep up sometimes, like I feel because I
Speaker 1: know I have like certain goals and I like have
Speaker 1: like career goals that I'm like, Okay, I need to
Speaker 1: accomplish these. But then also like I need to try.
Speaker 1: This is what you do so well. I need to
Speaker 1: just trust the flow of the spirit and like the
Speaker 1: spirit will flow me into I mean, yes, I gotta
Speaker 1: wake up and work hard and show up every day,
Speaker 1: but I can't plour something to happen. And you're so
Speaker 1: good at that. How did you get there? Well, I'm
Speaker 1: a pleaser. I want everyone to be happy all the
Speaker 1: time to a fault, and so I think that if
Speaker 1: it's not hell yes, then it's a nose stuck with
Speaker 1: me because somebody, if if you're saying yes to everything
Speaker 1: else besides your hell yeses, then you're saying no to
Speaker 1: your best yeses down. So if you're saying yes to
Speaker 1: everybody because you don't want to hurt people's feelings and
Speaker 1: you're not intentionally deciding what you're going for, then you're
Speaker 1: saying no to the stuff that's your heart and soul.
Speaker 1: Like if you say yes to all those stupid little
Speaker 1: things you don't care about, are not excited about, then
Speaker 1: that's your time and it's sucking your energy from who
Speaker 1: you are and your love and your passion of the
Speaker 1: things that mean the most to you. So then by focusing,
Speaker 1: but first you have to here's the hard thing. You
Speaker 1: have to take the time to know you. How do you?
Speaker 1: How you helped me with that? I mean, I feel
Speaker 1: like it's so easy to just have noise and activities
Speaker 1: and business. I feel like we just bow have been
Speaker 1: on a journey to be our best selves. Like we
Speaker 1: try really hard to be good people and obviously we
Speaker 1: mess up and it's not perfect. But being intentional and
Speaker 1: really like just being quiet with yourself, knowing who you are,
Speaker 1: what makes you tick, what makes you happiest, acknowledging that
Speaker 1: not trying to save the world, but doing what is
Speaker 1: I feel like God puts on our hearts. Everybody has,
Speaker 1: you know, our own unique makeup, and so if you
Speaker 1: just focus on those huge heart strings and callings, if
Speaker 1: everybody does a little thing, if everybodybody takes care of ourselves,
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, you've made a big difference
Speaker 1: versus being stressed out about all the things to do.
Speaker 1: And that's where I used that's okay, not I can't
Speaker 1: say used to live because I still do live. There
Speaker 1: I can see in my mind all this suffering, and
Speaker 1: I'm sure I'm just seeing whatever my mind sees. There's
Speaker 1: so much suffering in and we get feelings to dogs
Speaker 1: and all the animals and give everybody I know it
Speaker 1: but to make believe because it is coming from my
Speaker 1: personal brain, these made up feelings that I am creating
Speaker 1: a whole life story, saga scenario for whatever I'm feeling
Speaker 1: sad for. But that's really if if we were to
Speaker 1: cut open the brain of that living being, they're experiencing
Speaker 1: something totally different because they have their own makeup and
Speaker 1: they hold there's totally different circumstances, So there is no
Speaker 1: reason for me to put my feelings on it. What
Speaker 1: there is a reason for me to do is exactly
Speaker 1: what you're saying. And I'm really trying to grasp this,
Speaker 1: and I'm this is my corona goal for myself, and
Speaker 1: I challenge anyone who's un lockdown to think of it
Speaker 1: this way. I'm really trying to grasp what you're saying.
Speaker 1: I have a certain calling and I feel called called
Speaker 1: towards certain things that feel easy and right for me.
Speaker 1: That's what I need to focus on, not everything else,
Speaker 1: because it's going to suck on my energy out. I'm
Speaker 1: going to do a bad job at everything, and I'm
Speaker 1: going to end up in a ball on the floor
Speaker 1: crying because I can't. The world is so sad and overwhelming.
Speaker 1: Whereas if what gay gaddis of saying and I said
Speaker 1: totally wrong in her email, the leaders of tomorrow are
Speaker 1: the ones who can find silver lining because everybody needs hope,
Speaker 1: and you give people hope by doing what you're meant
Speaker 1: to do. And so how did you learn that to
Speaker 1: listen to those callings on your heart, because that is
Speaker 1: the key to happiness. I feel like I was just
Speaker 1: I had this moment. It started my sophomore year in college,
Speaker 1: which I know I'm an old soul. He always really,
Speaker 1: how did you have this? But I was so overwhelmed
Speaker 1: by all the feelings, and so I just didn't like
Speaker 1: the existence, like it was so daunting, and so I
Speaker 1: just started reading. It was heavy. I mean, I think
Speaker 1: starting with our relationship. I remember the first self hope
Speaker 1: book I read that totally changed my life with Gary
Speaker 1: Chapman's Five Love Languages, great book if anyone hasn't read it.
Speaker 1: But for you and I'm acts of service and I
Speaker 1: and you were not, and so I would spend my
Speaker 1: life trying to help you, like and as acts of service,
Speaker 1: you're not doing what you want to do, like you're
Speaker 1: being a martyr and doing something for someone else. And
Speaker 1: so I realized that you were were words of affirmation,
Speaker 1: which to me is a cop out because I'm like,
Speaker 1: that takes one second, but I know that means a
Speaker 1: lot to you, and so I'm like, Okay, well I
Speaker 1: can tell her how much I love her and how
Speaker 1: wonderful she is and what a great mom she is.
Speaker 1: And I don't have to go to the grocery store
Speaker 1: and prepare you a healthy meal and do your laundry
Speaker 1: and clean your house, which I don't know why I
Speaker 1: would even think that. So that helps, That's probably what
Speaker 1: you would appreciate it. Oh, I love poor Willie. I've
Speaker 1: trained him. Get a bottle of spray out spray the
Speaker 1: counters down. If you want to show me you love me.
Speaker 1: It's like I'm getting lucky tonight next all the window.
Speaker 1: I know, I'm like, do something, but I will say
Speaker 1: to another thing another boundaries, like we are loved. We
Speaker 1: both come from huge families, Willie and us, and we
Speaker 1: we always say family first, like we're that's our life,
Speaker 1: like we hang out with people and when you spend
Speaker 1: long times. I think this is why we live so
Speaker 1: well together in captivity we are in our little cages.
Speaker 1: Is because I've realized, especially as like an act of
Speaker 1: service person, it's up to me to know me and
Speaker 1: what I'm okay with. It's not fair to you to
Speaker 1: let you do something to me you don't know you're doing.
Speaker 1: That's ruining my life for stressing me out. This is
Speaker 1: what we call wisdom. Well, but you're so good, we're
Speaker 1: both if you I can be truthful for you, you know,
Speaker 1: because and Willie taught me that he was, Like Catherine,
Speaker 1: I don't know what you're feeling. It's not fair for
Speaker 1: you to have something inside of you that's bothering you
Speaker 1: that I don't know about. And it's really transpired. So
Speaker 1: then all these people that you love so much that
Speaker 1: you spend all your time with, be honest. But first again,
Speaker 1: it gets back to you have to know who who
Speaker 1: you are and what you're okay with and that takes time.
Speaker 1: But I feel like you and tailingin on the road
Speaker 1: and all the therapy I've lived vicariously through all, I
Speaker 1: was thinking we should time them too. We should, I know,
Speaker 1: have a little reunion. Man, So you're crazy up and down.
Speaker 1: Life has helped me a lot with my Excel spreadsheet,
Speaker 1: crossing the eyes and dot in the tea life. But Kevin,
Speaker 1: the thing that you have always done from me, which
Speaker 1: I don't know if you've done this because I've been
Speaker 1: such a hot mess in the middle of it. You
Speaker 1: probably don't even know what I'm saying. In the midst
Speaker 1: of all this uh energy, I put out there you
Speaker 1: have all And Willie said this in his podcast, and
Speaker 1: I agree. You provide a feeling of safety and stable
Speaker 1: and I think it's because you're like one of your
Speaker 1: greatest assets is the fact that you are type one,
Speaker 1: Type A and one on Instagram and all that. But
Speaker 1: then you've done all this also is work on yourself,
Speaker 1: so you're so compassionate and aware that you have the
Speaker 1: ability to make people feel safe and calm and sturdy.
Speaker 1: And that is such a blessing because because unhealthy one
Speaker 1: makes you feel like you've got stick in the mud.
Speaker 1: Like you know, I feel like you love so well.
Speaker 1: People are drawn to you. You have a light and
Speaker 1: an aura and you set people in and you make
Speaker 1: people feel good like ones are can be very cold
Speaker 1: and magnetizing, like somebody oh gosh, like okay, calm. If
Speaker 1: you need you know something, then but don't want to
Speaker 1: necessarily be around him. I don't want to be like
Speaker 1: I've learned so much from you because I want to
Speaker 1: be approachable and I want to be fun and I
Speaker 1: want to be present. It's easy to be distracted. So
Speaker 1: I appreciate you saying that, because that is that's what
Speaker 1: I want from my people. I've never wanted to be
Speaker 1: the star. I'll never forget it. Baylor. When you were
Speaker 1: doing Baylor Icon, you're out there, I was shaking. I
Speaker 1: was so nervous, as like your first singing, like the campus.
Speaker 1: Oh it was such a big deals in the huge
Speaker 1: hall and you're the finalist. It's blocked out of my mind,
Speaker 1: like traumatizing. I remember everything, which is also a problem.
Speaker 1: Um and you're up there and I said, oh, my goodness,
Speaker 1: what is feel like? Are you so nervous? And You're like, no,
Speaker 1: I'm nervous if I'm not up there. And I thought
Speaker 1: that was so interesting to me because You've always wanted
Speaker 1: to be on stage in front of people, and I'm
Speaker 1: the opposite. But I want to. I'm like, you want
Speaker 1: to help get it all organized. I want all my
Speaker 1: people to get all their dreams. But yes, let me
Speaker 1: organize it. Let me give you a schedule, and here's
Speaker 1: who you need to talk to and what you need
Speaker 1: to talk about. I thought. I worked at d C
Speaker 1: for a summer that was It was so fun and
Speaker 1: my dream job I thought was to be a scheduler,
Speaker 1: like a real lobbyist slash intern for really like paper
Speaker 1: phone answer I did answer the phone, and I sorted
Speaker 1: like a Brownstone apartment. It was so going to like
Speaker 1: work happy hours. I remember riding trains and stuff. I
Speaker 1: was like, awesome, that's cool. I know it was really fun.
Speaker 1: Pete Sessions so wonderful and Henry Bania because you were
Speaker 1: thinking about politics for a minute until it stressed me
Speaker 1: out so bad, and then I decided I can't focus
Speaker 1: on That's when I like my Yeah, it was too
Speaker 1: much to focus on. I'm better at one. Like Willie
Speaker 1: and I. We have our little issues that we work on,
Speaker 1: that we support, and I pour my heart and soul
Speaker 1: into those, and then I just pray for everybody else.
Speaker 1: It's too daunting, Okay, so go on. You're living in
Speaker 1: d C. Pete Sessions, I don't know what that we're
Speaker 1: talking about. Um oh gosh, oh I interrupted, you'd see.
Speaker 1: This is what all my listeners tell me. They say,
Speaker 1: stop interrupting your guests. They're on such great stories, and
Speaker 1: then you sidetrack it and then they never come back
Speaker 1: to what they're originally talking about. This is my flaw.
Speaker 1: I don't know. We have a lot to talk about. Oh.
Speaker 1: I was going to be a scheduler. My type a
Speaker 1: and so the scheduler got to get all the mail,
Speaker 1: open up all the mail and all the invites, and
Speaker 1: then you would get to decide who what invite you
Speaker 1: thought would be worthwhile for the senator whomever to go to,
Speaker 1: and you would write little notes on them and then
Speaker 1: you present them to whomever you were working for and
Speaker 1: then make the schedule. No, I never had that job
Speaker 1: that was a COVID job, but I thought, oh, if
Speaker 1: I could do that, that would be so fun. I
Speaker 1: just love a schedule and making it work, like I
Speaker 1: guess the puzzle of it all, puzzle. I love timing.
Speaker 1: I love having a efficient day. But then I also
Speaker 1: love quarantine life. I mean, here we are you love
Speaker 1: it all? What's what's a perfect okay? If you were
Speaker 1: to design and not for I'm not saying like a
Speaker 1: real job, but like the perfect job day scenario for you?
Speaker 1: Like if you were going to do work all day,
Speaker 1: what would be thrilling? What would it look like? I
Speaker 1: love schedule, like I love planning. What does that do
Speaker 1: for you? Like when you plan something, it's satisfying because
Speaker 1: you start with nothing and then you end with a product.
Speaker 1: So do you feel like you So it's creation. So
Speaker 1: actually it is creating. I guess it is. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: a creating because you were creating a day out of
Speaker 1: nothing thing and you're making it happen like our r
Speaker 1: V plans in the summer. Is so fun for me. Okay,
Speaker 1: people say that's not creative, but there's actually really have
Speaker 1: thought about it that way. I guess. So it really
Speaker 1: is because you're taking nothing and you're building a day,
Speaker 1: but you have this some day. He's completely out of
Speaker 1: your mind. That's true. It's no one else's mind. Everyone
Speaker 1: else just jumps on board because it's a schedule, so
Speaker 1: you feel like it was always there, but really you
Speaker 1: created it out of thin air. It's actually super creative.
Speaker 1: I love it. I like, we'll pick an area. We're
Speaker 1: trying to get all the states by g by the
Speaker 1: time she's eighteen. Corona MTE set us back a little bit,
Speaker 1: but we'll have an r V life. RV life if
Speaker 1: y'all just look up our V parks all the time.
Speaker 1: I love it and like all the random little balls
Speaker 1: of twine and diamond minding and caves and restaurants activities.
Speaker 1: Everyone listening. Katherin would do this with our family vacations like,
Speaker 1: we love it, figure out where we're gonna go. Then
Speaker 1: I don't even know where you look. You go to
Speaker 1: all the places on Google, and you find all the
Speaker 1: like the perfect websites that actually are legit with the
Speaker 1: really interesting people that find the cool things to do
Speaker 1: wherever you're going. You find those websites. I don't know
Speaker 1: how you find them. And then you figure out exactly
Speaker 1: where we need to eat. You're like, this is exactly
Speaker 1: where we have to eat, this is the place to
Speaker 1: go order, this is the event we're doing, Like this
Speaker 1: is what's happening, and you're so certain about it because
Speaker 1: you know because you've done all the research to find it.
Speaker 1: But it's like everyone's like, awesome, Well, God bless Willie.
Speaker 1: He likes a little random, so I feel like I'm trying.
Speaker 1: We're I'm swinging both ways. So now he likes to
Speaker 1: just take off see where the wind blows you, which
Speaker 1: I found is actually pretty fun, but it makes me
Speaker 1: a little nervous. At first. I was a little nervous
Speaker 1: because I'm thinking, well, what if we get there and
Speaker 1: it's booked, like I want to stay here, I want
Speaker 1: to see this, and if we get all the way
Speaker 1: there and you don't even get to see that. But
Speaker 1: then it's the adventure of what you did instead, like
Speaker 1: I'm looking at it, and so adventure of what you
Speaker 1: did instead that should be the title of that should
Speaker 1: be a good one, the adventure of what you didn't.
Speaker 1: So that's y'all's of memoir. You and Willie's Lee are
Speaker 1: the ying and the yang. He has been so good
Speaker 1: for my type A, and I'm good for his type Z,
Speaker 1: like we meet somewhere in type M. I guess, but
Speaker 1: I think it's good to have both. I think I thrive.
Speaker 1: I have a thrive on a routine, like when I know, okay,
Speaker 1: Genevieve goes to school two days a week, so my
Speaker 1: Mondays and Wednesdays when she goes to school, I work out,
Speaker 1: I work at grocery shop, a mule plan, I'm doing laundry.
Speaker 1: I'm getting everything done at the same time. I'm in
Speaker 1: my own little world. And you are, like you probably
Speaker 1: love you probably feel so good on top of the world. Yes,
Speaker 1: you're caught up. All your all, my all my quick
Speaker 1: books are reconciled, all my bills are paid, all the
Speaker 1: invoices are sent. I have my mule plan ready, you're
Speaker 1: like killing it, killing it, but I haven't connected with anyone.
Speaker 1: And so then on my our homeschool days Tuesday, Thursday's Fridays,
Speaker 1: it's so fun. I try to let that be more
Speaker 1: just organic, you know, I mean, we have to get
Speaker 1: through certain stuff, but I've figured I'm both figured I
Speaker 1: thrive off of both in different ways. But okay, this
Speaker 1: leads me to another topic. You are so great at balance,
Speaker 1: at boundaries, and you have worked on that a lot.
Speaker 1: So tell me what balance looks like to you and boundaries.
Speaker 1: It's funny, Beth, you can relate. We're extremes college Beth
Speaker 1: and then Catherine and investors and Richard now Katherine and
Speaker 1: her met after college. And I've never met two people
Speaker 1: who are more alike than you too. She's such a
Speaker 1: the same like I'm a I'm extreme personality by nature,
Speaker 1: and so I let my like whatever I'm doing. If
Speaker 1: I'm on I before, if I'm not working on myself,
Speaker 1: I'm like all or nothing, like intense workout, counter every calorie,
Speaker 1: I mean, always on a diet, which best started every year?
Speaker 1: Favorite one so far is this one. I like this one? Oh,
Speaker 1: I do too. Ellie Livesey faster way to fat loss.
Speaker 1: Check her out. She's the best, She's so inspiring. Um,
Speaker 1: but I feel like it's so much better since being
Speaker 1: a mom to you know, kids, that's where they're watching you.
Speaker 1: They're not listen. They're listening to what you're not telling them.
Speaker 1: You know, they're seeing between the lines. And so I
Speaker 1: don't ever want to talk about that. Like I've changed
Speaker 1: my tune now that Genevieve is older, and so I
Speaker 1: love health and I'm going for balance. I want her
Speaker 1: to have balance, Eat healthy, eat your approachein eat your vegetables.
Speaker 1: Of course, have a cookie, Like you haven't ruined your
Speaker 1: life if you've eaten a cookie. And in my type
Speaker 1: a brain, it's like, oh, I missed it up. I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna do whatever or work. You know, I didn't
Speaker 1: get to that today, So I'm just not gonna do anything.
Speaker 1: We had a friend, um that said it's a lot
Speaker 1: easier to stay in shape than to get in shape,
Speaker 1: and kind of in life in general, you know, like
Speaker 1: in your faith, in your marriage, and your just do
Speaker 1: a little bit if you're not feeling a lot, a
Speaker 1: little bit goes a long way. And so I've learned
Speaker 1: that from being so extreme where you're in a hole
Speaker 1: and you're like, gosh, I don't want to have to
Speaker 1: dig myself out of this hole ever again. I just
Speaker 1: want to stay present. Diva's trying to say, so. I
Speaker 1: think that's where that comes from being an extreme personality
Speaker 1: and just being tired of your extremity whatever is that
Speaker 1: word as extremity that extreme nous also, and I feel
Speaker 1: like I used to do the same thing. I've said
Speaker 1: this on the podcast before and I'll say it again,
Speaker 1: and Katherine knows this, and everyone who's listened knows. I
Speaker 1: used to struggle with like everyone I'm sure struggled with
Speaker 1: eating issues on some level. I took my mind to
Speaker 1: like dive hills and teared around bloem me in my
Speaker 1: earlier days, you know all that. And finally I got
Speaker 1: to the same point as you, like, when I got pregnant,
Speaker 1: something changed. And I think it's because we struggled so
Speaker 1: long to get pregnant that when I got pregnant, I
Speaker 1: did not care, Like the last thing I cared about
Speaker 1: was my body image because I was just so thankful
Speaker 1: to finally be pregnant. I was like, I don't care
Speaker 1: if my body changes. I don't care if I get
Speaker 1: stretched arged. I mean, I didn't want any of that, obviously,
Speaker 1: but I also wanted to be pregnant so much more.
Speaker 1: For the first time, I was like, Okay, my body
Speaker 1: is a miracle, Like I'm appreciating it for the first time.
Speaker 1: And then when I had her, I was like, man,
Speaker 1: I don't care about my body right now. I'm cheese.
Speaker 1: I mean, I care about it, but I don't care
Speaker 1: about it looking perfect. I'm just grateful that it's moving
Speaker 1: healthy and such a beautiful vessel. Yeah, and I can
Speaker 1: use it to carry sunny and what a blessing. And
Speaker 1: so it's like the same kind of thing. It's I
Speaker 1: think that's what Corona is doing for the world. Honestly,
Speaker 1: I think that's the everything. There's a negative and there's
Speaker 1: a positive. So I agree, what do you think the positive?
Speaker 1: Just stripping the world away from I mean everybody. Was
Speaker 1: the first thing anyone ever said to you is oh,
Speaker 1: I'm so busy. I cut busy out of my vocabulary.
Speaker 1: It just drove me crazy because you're in control of
Speaker 1: your life, Like you get to decide where you spend time,
Speaker 1: and you can make boundaries. You can make boundaries and
Speaker 1: you can say no and saying you're busy, which everyone busy.
Speaker 1: I get it, I'm not. I mean that's total legit.
Speaker 1: The world is crazy. But if you're so busy, you're
Speaker 1: not doing things you want to do, or just be
Speaker 1: like so, I always would say hope to see you soon,
Speaker 1: not oh, let's get together. I hate that way. Can
Speaker 1: we get together? I'm so busy, I can't do lunch.
Speaker 1: I'm like, so, I was just say hope to see
Speaker 1: you soon or look forward to crossing path soon, because
Speaker 1: you actually don't want to hang out anytime. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: if you don't want to hang out, don't say it,
Speaker 1: just say great seeing you, but the whole life to
Speaker 1: make another plan. No, And if you're so, I don't know,
Speaker 1: So I just see you soon. I hope to see
Speaker 1: you soon. But I think just that getting back to
Speaker 1: being intentional, like what do you want your day to
Speaker 1: be full of? At the end of this day? What
Speaker 1: have you done? And so I figured out a balance.
Speaker 1: You want your you need your type A days, like
Speaker 1: you need one of those or two of those a
Speaker 1: week to really like get that powered up that makes
Speaker 1: you feel good and alive. There's a baby in a
Speaker 1: big girl. You want to say hi, you're Sonny and
Speaker 1: Hi your best friend did tell me that they were
Speaker 1: gonna ask before you leave. Because Giu is the best.
Speaker 1: She's like little mama with Sonny literally holding her on
Speaker 1: her hip right now at all times. What's your favorite
Speaker 1: thing about your mom um? She's really good at doing
Speaker 1: stuff like what like doing it ventureous stuff and like
Speaker 1: doing fun stuff like other stuff like that. She's the best.
Speaker 1: She's the most fun and adventurous. I agree, Si good.
Speaker 1: I want to be adventurous. That you said that also
Speaker 1: is another thing that stuck with me. Okay, we're almost
Speaker 1: in gudy Is You always said I want to be
Speaker 1: in the picture. Yes, that was a big a Hall
Speaker 1: moment for Like when you said that, I was like,
Speaker 1: You're like, I don't want to be the one taking
Speaker 1: the pictures. I want to be in the pictures. And
Speaker 1: I don't care if I look perfect or whatever is happening.
Speaker 1: I'm getting in the picture. What does that mean to you?
Speaker 1: Because I loved that. That really is stuck with me
Speaker 1: because my personality, it's easy to say, oh, y'all go
Speaker 1: do something. I'm gonna stay back in big dinner, clean
Speaker 1: do laundry, and then I do something that's just a chore. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because I like to do things, check those boxes. I
Speaker 1: would write stuff on my list that I'd already done,
Speaker 1: just across it out. What is that? I don't know.
Speaker 1: Some psychologists psycho analyze me. But then I thought, Okay,
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, all these memories are
Speaker 1: so fun, and I'm not I don't want to like,
Speaker 1: that's life your memories. Nobody's going to say she did
Speaker 1: a great job laundry and cleaning, like it was so
Speaker 1: fun to go get her tube and float down holl
Speaker 1: Creek and freezing cold uh water because it's running more
Speaker 1: than it had ever been. So at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, I think I just live sort of with that,
Speaker 1: not to be depressing, but I guess more eternal value,
Speaker 1: like if if I died tomorrow, Like what would I
Speaker 1: have said about today? What would I've done today that
Speaker 1: was meaningful? And it is important, so important to keep
Speaker 1: a home going and healthy food and well fed and
Speaker 1: clean and all that. But I think there's a balance,
Speaker 1: like there's I don't want to just do that. I
Speaker 1: want to be in the pictures. I want to be
Speaker 1: in the memory. I want to experience all that fun,
Speaker 1: and you're great at that. You have always been the daredevil.
Speaker 1: I I mean you love the thrill of life and
Speaker 1: I'm more of a I mean I had to be
Speaker 1: really brave to make myself try roller coaster and actually
Speaker 1: was fun. But for the most for like the first
Speaker 1: fifteen years of my life, I said I don't like
Speaker 1: roller coasters, and then you decided, and then I was like, well,
Speaker 1: let me just try one. And I don't like the
Speaker 1: wooden ones, but I do or the ones that go backwards.
Speaker 1: You actually went and tried them all out and figured
Speaker 1: out you really liked Yeah, And if I hated it,
Speaker 1: I'd never have to do it again. But you tried it,
Speaker 1: but I tried it. Food not so exciting. Could like
Speaker 1: just strap up post and cheese pizza. I'm not going
Speaker 1: to try something. I know I have a weird food thing.
Speaker 1: But you always have lived off of noodles. When we
Speaker 1: went to camp, though, we went to this camp in
Speaker 1: Texas called Waltimar's All Girls Camp. Catherine was so you
Speaker 1: were so great everything. You're like canoeing captain and like
Speaker 1: I failed, you shoot archery like a hundred You how
Speaker 1: likest archery? You could shoot American archer, baby, but you
Speaker 1: would get a bulls eye the link of a football field,
Speaker 1: like you're like catanus Everdene like, I'm not kidding. I
Speaker 1: took a double. Don't come messed with us. In Corona,
Speaker 1: we got our Catherine is an archer like you had
Speaker 1: so many bows and arrows and they were the most
Speaker 1: high tech ever, and you would shoot from I can't believe.
Speaker 1: It was in the middle of the field where people
Speaker 1: are walking and they changed that someone lost an arrow,
Speaker 1: but you would shoot like I swear it was like
Speaker 1: the link of a football field right now. I don't
Speaker 1: know how I got into that. I loved it. Ever
Speaker 1: do it anymore? No, I need to You need to
Speaker 1: do that. Don't lose that. I know you were so
Speaker 1: great at that. It was fun. How did you find archery?
Speaker 1: Did you just click with you? I guess I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think they made you maybe take it or and
Speaker 1: then you just like connected. I loved it because I
Speaker 1: like a good project. Because it was such a maybe
Speaker 1: bulls I you could win. There was something to like
Speaker 1: win or get yeah, and it was instant instant. Once
Speaker 1: you practice, you could like and then there were all
Speaker 1: these things to get. So it's like you had to
Speaker 1: shoot x amount from the tin yard line or x
Speaker 1: amount from fifty. You had to work your way up.
Speaker 1: There's this American I don't know if they still have it,
Speaker 1: but it's an American archer check boxes, you know, so
Speaker 1: I could check them. So I had to shoot X
Speaker 1: amount of points from each as as you checked off
Speaker 1: the tin, then you did the twenty and the then thirty,
Speaker 1: and so give me a checklist. I mean, come on,
Speaker 1: I'm going to finish American archer on our how And
Speaker 1: then they invented so then some of us, there were
Speaker 1: a few of us that got our American archer from
Speaker 1: the fifties. So they invented the Waldemar round and that
Speaker 1: was like double what the American archer was. So we've
Speaker 1: got it. So I took archery double so I could
Speaker 1: check those boxes. Give me that award. Truly, I think
Speaker 1: I probably had something to do with it. The satisfaction
Speaker 1: of that makes sense. Achieving. I'm an achiever. I want
Speaker 1: to follow the rules. I want to achieve what is
Speaker 1: expected of me. To a fault. Yeah, I'm not no
Speaker 1: wonder that I was into that. I knew what I
Speaker 1: was going for you love, and you say that in
Speaker 1: your what are you going for you? But where I
Speaker 1: came up with this is like when we were eating
Speaker 1: in the dining hall. You would never eat any of
Speaker 1: your food, and then you would just stare at everyone's plates.
Speaker 1: I would just stare people eating gross food. I grossed
Speaker 1: me out and I got horrible table grades because they
Speaker 1: would say stop staring, people eat and eat three bites.
Speaker 1: But you would not not worth it. I don't care.
Speaker 1: I would try to hide it under lettuce or bread.
Speaker 1: But about food, Oh, smells that kills you. Smells kill me.
Speaker 1: If I walk into someplace that stinks, I walk out
Speaker 1: because what does that mean? What do you do? What
Speaker 1: does your brain think? What does think? It? Like? Is
Speaker 1: instant shut down? Like I smelled a poisonous gas or
Speaker 1: something that my body might die? I think it must
Speaker 1: be some old survival technique. If you walked up to
Speaker 1: something that's stunk in the day, that probably had diseases.
Speaker 1: I don't know. So if I walk into a place
Speaker 1: and it stinks, I can't eat there and everybody knows it,
Speaker 1: and it's not even worth arguing with you because it's
Speaker 1: not happening. No, that's what I love about you two sister,
Speaker 1: your go go go go, go with the flow until
Speaker 1: you're not it's like nope, not even worth it. But
Speaker 1: I will say, like with food, food, I would say
Speaker 1: it's Polly no, non negotiable. But if you're coming to
Speaker 1: our house for dinner, I'm gonna text you what I'm cooking,
Speaker 1: all the ingredients. See if you're adversed anything, if you
Speaker 1: prefer something else, I want everyone else to get how
Speaker 1: they want it to. I'm not gonna put my food
Speaker 1: on you. I really want you to have it because
Speaker 1: people don't understand, like Willie will eat anything except olives,
Speaker 1: which we grew up on black alive pizza, like that's
Speaker 1: our one thing. He will eat your shoe leather and
Speaker 1: he will not eat an al of um. And so
Speaker 1: I want everyone else to enjoy it like I want you.
Speaker 1: I love food and I love cooking and doing things,
Speaker 1: but if you put something gross in it, it ruins
Speaker 1: it for me. So I don't want to ruin it.
Speaker 1: So I'm very accommodating to other people. You are. And
Speaker 1: it's so funny that you would text someone the full
Speaker 1: being ahead of time, Like someone comes over to my house,
Speaker 1: I'm like, are you bringing something, You're the best whatever,
Speaker 1: and you're gonna put all the leftovers in baggies. So
Speaker 1: we've you know, we're saving all of our food and
Speaker 1: being very cook at all. Michael's to cook when we're
Speaker 1: at home, and he cooks Southern food, and I have
Speaker 1: just decided to eat anything like I've become like Willie.
Speaker 1: I don't want to cook it. It's like stresses me out,
Speaker 1: so I don't really care the mixtures you come up
Speaker 1: with and make anything. I will put rice with cheese
Speaker 1: and make some cheetos in there and dip it with
Speaker 1: a tortilla choke. I am a rat. You're a rat.
Speaker 1: I love to eat like a rat. Yeah, you always
Speaker 1: kind of have. You're a survive. That's good. I would
Speaker 1: die everything. I love cheese too. I want to melt
Speaker 1: cheese into anything. You've always put it like chips on
Speaker 1: top of stuff. We would go to Uncle Dan's Best
Speaker 1: Barbecue and Waco and we would get Texas taters and
Speaker 1: put cheetos on top. That was so good. Oh it's
Speaker 1: still so it is so good, I know. Yeah, So
Speaker 1: I think back to our different personalities though, I think
Speaker 1: that's the beauty of it. Like us having each other
Speaker 1: has made us better people. And I would say that
Speaker 1: about all the people, like right now, I'm turning forty
Speaker 1: this year vision, I would say, like intentionally all the
Speaker 1: people in my life. I feel like I've realized there
Speaker 1: are phases. You know, you think, gosh, I was best
Speaker 1: friends with that person and I don't keep up with them,
Speaker 1: but you have these phases of life, And right now
Speaker 1: I feel like the people in my life, it's I
Speaker 1: have healthy I've really tried hard to have healthy relationships
Speaker 1: so that you enjoy your people, you enjoy your life.
Speaker 1: We're all we subject ourselves to our own living hills,
Speaker 1: like we there's so many things we can't control. And
Speaker 1: then previous Corona, you look at the things that we've
Speaker 1: subjected ourselves to that people hate, like, but you chose
Speaker 1: to do that. You don't have to do that. So
Speaker 1: I feel like that's what I'm going for in this.
Speaker 1: You're very aware that you have a choice, very aware,
Speaker 1: and I'm very choosy, Like I take those choices seriously
Speaker 1: because I am so affected by things. I don't want
Speaker 1: to be tired. I'm going to go to bed even
Speaker 1: you know, don't want to hate your people I don't
Speaker 1: want to hate my people. I don't want to feel bad.
Speaker 1: I love mimosas. I can't drink orange juice. I think
Speaker 1: I'm pre diabetic or something. And so if I want
Speaker 1: to have a fun day, I can't drink a mimosa
Speaker 1: in the beginning of a Saturday because I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: tired all day and I miss out on everything that
Speaker 1: you're tired, and it sounds it sounds so fun. I
Speaker 1: love mimosas. If I know I can take a nap.
Speaker 1: What did rain say, eat like you eat what you want,
Speaker 1: how you want to feel. Yeah, that makes sense. And
Speaker 1: so if I want to drink a mimosa and take
Speaker 1: a nap, awesome. But I know I can't, and you
Speaker 1: have to just know yourself. I think I feel like
Speaker 1: I've just spent this last stecade really intentionally trialed and Errard, Yes,
Speaker 1: you took inventory. It's like when you do that allergy
Speaker 1: tests and they scraped her back and they put all
Speaker 1: the things in your back to see what you're allergic to. Yes,
Speaker 1: you've done an allergy test for yourself, and you now
Speaker 1: know what you can live with and what you can't.
Speaker 1: What makes you happy? What doesn't and you just don't
Speaker 1: do what you're allergic to most of the time. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know what, I want to feel good and I
Speaker 1: want to be happy. Yeah, And I feel like we've
Speaker 1: had the past couple of years have been so crazy
Speaker 1: and it has given us this eternal perspective when you
Speaker 1: have these life and deaths and ups and downs, and
Speaker 1: you feel like you're in the clouds, like we've been
Speaker 1: so off of the ant level, I guess of the
Speaker 1: ground because we just were kind of last year. It's
Speaker 1: just kind of like one eternal thing to the next.
Speaker 1: And it's beautiful up there too, like it's scary and sad.
Speaker 1: And what do you mean up there to talk about
Speaker 1: your faith? Yeah? Um, well, that analogy is like when
Speaker 1: you're just not worried about your day to day, when
Speaker 1: you're dealing with so many big life things, you're just
Speaker 1: kind of actual death. Yeah, life and death. We had
Speaker 1: a year of life and death last year, And I
Speaker 1: feel like your perspective is different because you don't have
Speaker 1: the time to worry about stuff that normally you were
Speaker 1: too busy, you're stressed out about because you're just dealing
Speaker 1: with the big stuff. But faith, to me is everything,
Speaker 1: and I feel like this is something I've learned too.
Speaker 1: I've always had the Holy Spirit in me and felt
Speaker 1: it so huge, and I know that's a gift too,
Speaker 1: like because for me, what is what is right? It
Speaker 1: feels so right, like if I doing something I know
Speaker 1: to be wrong, it makes me feel sick inside and
Speaker 1: always has like I've had that forever, and I is
Speaker 1: very strong, very strong. I guess it gets back to
Speaker 1: that not wanting to feel bad and this aim like
Speaker 1: with my faith, like God has always I've always known
Speaker 1: what is right. Obviously haven't always done it, but then
Speaker 1: I just I had the gut feeling to know, and
Speaker 1: so I'm lucky. I know that I'm lucky for that
Speaker 1: now because God keeps me on my path. You know
Speaker 1: exactly what your path is exactly, and it's new every
Speaker 1: day you wake up. I don't know where it's leading me.
Speaker 1: At each intersection, I have a feeling of what's right
Speaker 1: for me. What does the Holy Spirit feel like to you?
Speaker 1: It's just like your whole chest and heart, Like you
Speaker 1: know that feeling when you're about to get sick or
Speaker 1: if you're nervous. When I'm when I have that feeling,
Speaker 1: I know it's not right and this is something else.
Speaker 1: If you don't know, you know, like if you're uncertain,
Speaker 1: if you don't know what the right answer is, then
Speaker 1: I feel like you just hold tight, pray about it.
Speaker 1: You still don't make them, don't ever force something. I
Speaker 1: used to be a forcer, like, Okay, I need to
Speaker 1: get this over with, check this over because it seems
Speaker 1: like the best. Yeah, but if you don't know, if
Speaker 1: you don't have that peace, or for me, if I
Speaker 1: don't know, then I just wait and then will the
Speaker 1: answer show up? Always? I mean, think about life. It's
Speaker 1: it's funny now that you've lived long enough to look
Speaker 1: back at stuff, you think something is so important you
Speaker 1: have to decide right now, oh my goodness. And then
Speaker 1: you think, I think you have to go back and
Speaker 1: redo when it doesn't work out. And then instead of
Speaker 1: just not being that my sweet neighbor, shelish so wise,
Speaker 1: our old neighbor. She always said, Katherine, you don't have
Speaker 1: to be the first to respond or anything or anything.
Speaker 1: I get a text. I'm on tons of text change,
Speaker 1: and sometimes someone will text something out and like with
Speaker 1: an answer that needs to be replied to or something
Speaker 1: that needs to be done, and I feel like I
Speaker 1: gotta right back right away. But I don't have to
Speaker 1: even even right back. Some people don't even know you're
Speaker 1: on that text change exactly, and we stress ourselves out thinking, Okay,
Speaker 1: I need to sign up for that if you get
Speaker 1: a meal calendar for somebody, or if I get a
Speaker 1: text chain on. No, that's another thing I've never forgotten.
Speaker 1: You said you don't have to be the first response.
Speaker 1: Sheila taught me that. It was one of those huge
Speaker 1: pause pause But when you know something's right, like you
Speaker 1: and your podcast. You are the reason I started this podcast,
Speaker 1: but it was because you were trying to fit into
Speaker 1: other people's lives. But when you get on your path
Speaker 1: and you weren't forcing anything and you weren't making anything up,
Speaker 1: like this is what God was calling you to do.
Speaker 1: You're awesome at this. Were made for this, all the
Speaker 1: questions and here into everyone's brains and not have to
Speaker 1: fake playing the mandolin or whatever. Oh yeah, when I
Speaker 1: was in all sorts of bands, I had to like
Speaker 1: fake an instrument because I would never learn guitar. And
Speaker 1: then they were like, oh, learn the mandolin, so I
Speaker 1: just faked it. Literally, were hooked up to this cool
Speaker 1: little nothing, but you've learned how to do this. Sister.
Speaker 1: If you weren't into this, this would be so intimidating
Speaker 1: to you, but you love it, and I feel like
Speaker 1: that's where it is. I mean, obviously we all do
Speaker 1: things we don't want to do, but I think form
Speaker 1: major life decisions. Like the day I met Willie, I
Speaker 1: knew I was going to met Miriam. I know that's
Speaker 1: so annoying for people. They're like, how do you know?
Speaker 1: How did you know? I don't know. It's just this
Speaker 1: feeling like you knew. I knew. The day I saw
Speaker 1: our dog on a picture online, I knew I was
Speaker 1: going to get her. The days our house, I knew
Speaker 1: I was going to get it. God burned a hole
Speaker 1: in our heart for Genevieve. It's weird. It's like when
Speaker 1: you know you know it's something you can't it's just
Speaker 1: like if you don't do it, you're just in the
Speaker 1: wrong place all the time. It's like a stake in
Speaker 1: the ground. Yeah, It's like if you're building your fence,
Speaker 1: like you have the the wire in between that you're
Speaker 1: kind of just chilling chunch on. But then when you
Speaker 1: get these steaks in the ground and that's like, yep,
Speaker 1: that's it. I think too. It's I've tried to get
Speaker 1: noise out of my life, like I've gotten to a
Speaker 1: point where I've tried to just have stuff in my
Speaker 1: life that's real and that makes me, builds me. You
Speaker 1: know that I can trust and so when you when
Speaker 1: you don't have all the distractions too, you can have
Speaker 1: these the feelings. I guess, I don't know. I really
Speaker 1: think it's a gift now. I mean, I know that
Speaker 1: not everybody has it so blatantly, but you're able to
Speaker 1: live through life and live through life and death because
Speaker 1: your faith is so strong, Like you know, at the end,
Speaker 1: what is this life to you? And then what is
Speaker 1: faith to you? Well, the only guarantee is death, and
Speaker 1: so I believe for me, faith makes everything makes sense.
Speaker 1: Nothing makes sense, like you can't explain my mind. You
Speaker 1: can't explain what is happening or who you are for me,
Speaker 1: like nothing makes sense unless I there's two here, and
Speaker 1: I just know that God is sovereign and God has me,
Speaker 1: and I believe that we're all connected and everything that
Speaker 1: happens happens for a reason to get you to the
Speaker 1: next place where you're supposed to be too. And when
Speaker 1: I truly, wholeheardly believe that, I believe everybody has something
Speaker 1: good in them and I look for that, and I
Speaker 1: believe that God has everyday planned like his time is
Speaker 1: not human time. And it takes away the pressure of
Speaker 1: trying to be on some time frame or do. It
Speaker 1: takes the pressure of the world away because it with
Speaker 1: your whole heart. Oh, I you don't ever doubt God
Speaker 1: and his faith. Like sometimes I can feel like I
Speaker 1: know there's a God, Yes he's got he's got it.
Speaker 1: Then let me get all stressed out trying to do
Speaker 1: it myself done here, Like you're good at really keeping
Speaker 1: God as a part of your every day to day existence,
Speaker 1: Like it's like a moving meditation prayer with you totally,
Speaker 1: and I feel like I've gotten in like every I'm
Speaker 1: able to seek God. It's not like pray not pray,
Speaker 1: like it's all sort of this just like continuum of prayer,
Speaker 1: prayer God like miracles. I mean, looking if you look
Speaker 1: out the everything's a miracle. And if you can view
Speaker 1: the world that way. There's so much heartache and bad
Speaker 1: and know there's dark things, but if you try to
Speaker 1: live in the light, darkness what do they say, if
Speaker 1: you crack the door to darkness, the light overtakes, the
Speaker 1: overtakes the darkness, and so if you are trying to
Speaker 1: see the light, I feel like it just takes away
Speaker 1: the darkness. And that's what God is to me, and
Speaker 1: I used to feel used to. This is my Corona
Speaker 1: challenge I'm working on. I would feel guilty for feeling
Speaker 1: happy when I know there's all this suffering happening out there.
Speaker 1: It's like, if I'm aware that all these sad things
Speaker 1: and terrible things are happening, I shouldn't allow myself to
Speaker 1: feel good. But going back to this gay Addis quote,
Speaker 1: even what I'm saying it all wrong. You have to
Speaker 1: see the silver lining if you're going to be a
Speaker 1: leader and bring hope, because if you're just suffering and
Speaker 1: wallowing with all these suffering stories that you hear of
Speaker 1: the world, then there's no way you can bring light
Speaker 1: to the world. I'm not saying you can't feel it
Speaker 1: and be aware of it and help and give where
Speaker 1: you feel called, because you should. But you also then
Speaker 1: have to be able to separate and stay in the
Speaker 1: light or else what good will you bring to anyone?
Speaker 1: And amidst all the suffering, there's so many blessings. Like
Speaker 1: I think, you know, back to our grandfather, he went
Speaker 1: in kind of at the beginning of Corona, and so
Speaker 1: he's been by himself. Nobody can go see him. But
Speaker 1: all the I see you nurses like they take on
Speaker 1: an emotional role now doctors, Like there are so many
Speaker 1: angels on earth, and there's so much good despite the suffering,
Speaker 1: Like when you're in dark places, there's still often somebody
Speaker 1: or a hope that you can hold onto. And I
Speaker 1: think if everybody just gives people the benefit of the doubts,
Speaker 1: if you just believe people are doing the best they
Speaker 1: can do and it's not personal against you, which just
Speaker 1: people are life, you know, that's a that's another change,
Speaker 1: Like when you truly believe that people are out for
Speaker 1: the bet, they're not out to take you down, they're
Speaker 1: just tie whatever, they're just doing. Their mom taught us
Speaker 1: that with her philosophy. You know, she always remember, we
Speaker 1: would oh, so and so hurt my feelings, and you
Speaker 1: need to call their moms. You're thinking, I would want
Speaker 1: her to call their mom to fix it. And she
Speaker 1: would always say, well, what are they going through in
Speaker 1: their life that would make them. Mom has always been
Speaker 1: very good. Yes, a broad perspective like that, And if
Speaker 1: you believe the world's not out to get you, I
Speaker 1: mean Oprah, she her story was so powerful. She's been
Speaker 1: through such dark, hard things that could have she had
Speaker 1: every excuse to not get up, but instead, she said,
Speaker 1: those experiences didn't happen to me, They happened for me
Speaker 1: because now here she is the most empathetic, amazing world,
Speaker 1: world changer because of what she's been through, so used it.
Speaker 1: And I do believe you get to choose how you respond,
Speaker 1: and it's okay to not be okay. You know you
Speaker 1: don't have to Yeah, And you know, bad things, hard
Speaker 1: things aren't necessarily bad, they're just hard and that's okay too.
Speaker 1: Everyone comes up with this plan for their life and
Speaker 1: if if something hard or difficult happens, people say that's bad.
Speaker 1: They immediately label it bad. But it's not bad because
Speaker 1: if you truly have a spiritual existence, you know that
Speaker 1: God will use all of this for your ultimate good
Speaker 1: and like oversists for you, and that involves storms, that
Speaker 1: involves dark periods totally because you learn it shapes you
Speaker 1: in a different way than if everything is just great,
Speaker 1: you learned depth to yourself. Yes, and even just like
Speaker 1: watching the c m A Fest on the TV, how
Speaker 1: everybody nobody was done up playing acoustic. Nobody was done up.
Speaker 1: The sound wasn't perfect, but everyone recorded it themselves. Yes,
Speaker 1: on your iPhone, on your iPad, but it was so powerful.
Speaker 1: Like it's just people being people and humanity. That's how
Speaker 1: you connect with humanity, being real, being you Like, it's
Speaker 1: not about who you think you should be, it's who
Speaker 1: are you? Who are you? Who are you? So give
Speaker 1: me give people steps on how to discover who you are.
Speaker 1: If people are still lost in the noise and lost
Speaker 1: in the keeping up, and lost in the climbing the
Speaker 1: ladder and whatever else, how would you suggest people find
Speaker 1: out who they are? For me, it starts with quiet.
Speaker 1: You just have to be still and be quiet. And
Speaker 1: I would say for me, I've started, well, like for
Speaker 1: you our relationship, I've always wanted to love you. If
Speaker 1: I focus on actions that are annoying to me, I'm
Speaker 1: going to be annoyed with you. So I would say,
Speaker 1: start with a relationship that's for me, a relationship that
Speaker 1: is trying. And another thing that I always try to
Speaker 1: do is like if I start getting annoyed with someone
Speaker 1: Willie or gonna me or you or whatever, which thankfully
Speaker 1: I've trained my brain. You can train your brain so
Speaker 1: the second I feel something annoyed, I focus on three
Speaker 1: things of gratitude. So if something comes in and I'm
Speaker 1: thinking something not positive, stop it, like, don't stop it,
Speaker 1: stop it, don't let those feelings get stuck. Let those
Speaker 1: fly away. And it's okay to be annoyed. Like, you
Speaker 1: know what, I think this is all just for It's not.
Speaker 1: I don't want to act like I'm always feeling. For
Speaker 1: the most part, this is your te This gives you,
Speaker 1: and this gives you acceptance of people for who they are.
Speaker 1: And so for me, then I just focus on the
Speaker 1: three things I love the most about them and really
Speaker 1: feel and feel that. And then because you think you
Speaker 1: know Sally Rob this lady in Austin who's so wise
Speaker 1: and gives women's retreat, she said her husband would throw
Speaker 1: little pieces of paper and she would find these little
Speaker 1: pieces of watered up paper all over the house, and
Speaker 1: she viewed, instead of being annoyed with him, you view
Speaker 1: it as a little blessing. You're so thankful for that
Speaker 1: person's life. And those little reminders. I mean, if it's
Speaker 1: driving you crazy, maybe you should work on it. But
Speaker 1: you know, you can view things like that as a
Speaker 1: little blessing and a reminder. And you would be so
Speaker 1: sad if that paper wasn't there, And not to be
Speaker 1: always sad, but just to kind of change your focus
Speaker 1: and then appreciate the people around you because we're all
Speaker 1: human and if and this is something else, I don't
Speaker 1: want people to look for the worst in me, So
Speaker 1: view people as you want to be viewed. You know, look,
Speaker 1: try to find the best in them, so they hopefully
Speaker 1: try to find the best in you. If you try
Speaker 1: to help people, then they try to help you. Like
Speaker 1: if you're happy, they're happy. Back your mirrors, what did
Speaker 1: they say? You get back what you put out? It's
Speaker 1: really karma, karma totally. And on sad days it's okay
Speaker 1: to be sad. I will say something that's helped me
Speaker 1: as a parent instead, because Genevieve and I spend so
Speaker 1: much time together. When I'm feeling tired or frustrated or
Speaker 1: hormone or hormonal, or I'm sick or whatever, I say
Speaker 1: what I'm feeling instead of because as kids, I remember
Speaker 1: like taking people feeling emotion of all those people around you,
Speaker 1: and so if you say what you're feeling, then she
Speaker 1: doesn't have to worry and take it on. I say, Genevieve,
Speaker 1: I love you so much. My day is over, I'm
Speaker 1: finished talking, I'm tired, I'm going to bed. It's not you,
Speaker 1: it's me. I just need to rechard. Just be honest,
Speaker 1: and then you don't have this undercurrent of yeah, and
Speaker 1: then she can tell me if she's having feelings. You've
Speaker 1: helped us with that, sister, being honest with your emotions.
Speaker 1: Thank you. You're framing it nicely, because then it's not personal.
Speaker 1: You know, then you're not the kid doesn't have to
Speaker 1: be worry of you know, if they're the reason you're upset.
Speaker 1: Another thing you said a little parenting advice here at
Speaker 1: the Inn is you said you will. You told you
Speaker 1: you will always tell her the truth always. Mary Flow Redley,
Speaker 1: The Birds and the Bees genius. If you need something
Speaker 1: for your kids, um Mary Flow Ridley Ridley, she started
Speaker 1: The Birds and the Bees. It teaches your kids how
Speaker 1: to talk about sex, or teaches you how to talk
Speaker 1: about sex to your kids, because they say, we've spent
Speaker 1: our whole life, trying to prepare our kids and keep
Speaker 1: them safe. You know, you send them to schools, you
Speaker 1: help them with their homework, you keep them dressed, well fed,
Speaker 1: all these sports out of harm, way out of harm's way.
Speaker 1: You catch them when they fall, you put a band
Speaker 1: aid on their cuts. And the one thing we're scared
Speaker 1: to talk to our kids about a sex and that's
Speaker 1: the one thing they're most curious about, and that we won't.
Speaker 1: You know that we don't know what to say. So
Speaker 1: it starts. She has this whole program, and it starts
Speaker 1: when they're young. And any question they ever asked that
Speaker 1: makes you blush, you know, you always say that is
Speaker 1: such a good question. I'm so glad you ask. And
Speaker 1: then you tell him that's a good question, and that
Speaker 1: gives you a second to catch your breath before he
Speaker 1: started saying these words that make feel weird, and you've
Speaker 1: got to say it straight face, nonchalantly. And but I
Speaker 1: tell her, I'm always going to tell you the truth,
Speaker 1: because you want to be the expert. Your kids are
Speaker 1: going to figure out stuff. And that Willie was saying
Speaker 1: that too yesterday because we were talking about something and
Speaker 1: Willie told him to be the truth about it, and
Speaker 1: I remember thinking in my head, oh my gosh, I
Speaker 1: want to dodge this question, but instead he just nonchalantly
Speaker 1: told her the truth. And I was like, when we
Speaker 1: talked about the next day and y'all said, you want
Speaker 1: to be the expert because why because if you tell
Speaker 1: them false information, they're not going to come back to you.
Speaker 1: You're setting the report And it says this was something
Speaker 1: that was eye opening. They say, even if your kids
Speaker 1: in kindergarten, the maturation of that class is the oldest
Speaker 1: sibling of that class. So you think, oh, my kids five,
Speaker 1: they're in kindergarten. I don't have to worry about saying
Speaker 1: the right words or telling them the truth, but that
Speaker 1: there could be someone in there that has who's a Willie,
Speaker 1: who has four older brothers and sisters that are in
Speaker 1: high school, and so they're hearing words and things they've
Speaker 1: never heard and bring them back to their five year
Speaker 1: old kindergarten class. Yes, and so you just have to
Speaker 1: be the expert and say, she gives us that because
Speaker 1: you said, if you're not the expert, they're going to
Speaker 1: go their friends will be and they're trying to find information.
Speaker 1: That's all they're trying to do like everything we do,
Speaker 1: not if we have some if you have a picture
Speaker 1: or a a text, or we mentioned something like let me see,
Speaker 1: they're just curious. Yeah, back finding. And the funny thing is,
Speaker 1: like we've had the sex talk with Genevieve, maybe since kindergart.
Speaker 1: You think, oh my gosh, this is so new. Well,
Speaker 1: I wrote down her words step by step. I kept
Speaker 1: him on my phone. I prayed about it constantly. I
Speaker 1: would just look at it so I knew what I
Speaker 1: was supposed to say. And you just have a streamlined,
Speaker 1: factual message, you know. She goes into the whole comparing
Speaker 1: it to science and flowers and just anatomy and it's
Speaker 1: not emotional. And at the end of it they're like, huh,
Speaker 1: there's no emotion behind it. It's just because they're just
Speaker 1: trying to figure out how it works. Yeah, they don't
Speaker 1: even know what they're asking. Yeah, I think truth for me,
Speaker 1: and that's where I am now at this phase too.
Speaker 1: Honesty is always the best policy. When you tell the truth,
Speaker 1: even if it hurts you for a second, it gets
Speaker 1: you to where you're supposed to be. For me, trying
Speaker 1: to keep up with what you said or what you're
Speaker 1: supposed to say, or and if it's not meant to be,
Speaker 1: good riddance, you know, honestly, like if you're if it's
Speaker 1: not meant to be and you can't keep it up,
Speaker 1: then let it go. And I appreciate it for what
Speaker 1: it was when it was, but it's not where you're
Speaker 1: supposed to be right now. I love that he's here.
Speaker 1: The baby's back. Have to give a shout out to
Speaker 1: uh cousin, Janet. Okay, hey, Janet, planet would planet with
Speaker 1: Janet best cousin and listener ever. She stays up late
Speaker 1: to listen to these at midnight when they post, Janet,
Speaker 1: I love you, Janet, and you any messages about the podcast.
Speaker 1: That's Willie's Willie's cousin, cousin one of We're blessed by
Speaker 1: the best families ever. We all have the best cousins, family, siblings, parents, grandparents.
Speaker 1: Sunny says, Okay, so I wrap up every podcast, Cabin.
Speaker 1: I'm so glad we got to do. I love you
Speaker 1: so much, I'm so proud of you. I'm so proud
Speaker 1: of you. Lend you to I'm gonna include you on this.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do leave your light. So that's what Sonny
Speaker 1: wanted every wants to know that she's finding her voice.
Speaker 1: What do you what do you want people to know?
Speaker 1: Here you go first and the jet a second. What
Speaker 1: do want people to know? I will I want people
Speaker 1: to know that who you are is who you're meant
Speaker 1: to be. Like, don't be you and just own you,
Speaker 1: because take the time to find you. Take the time
Speaker 1: to own you. Um, and don't compare your journey to
Speaker 1: someone else's. Like acknowledge your own path and just swim
Speaker 1: in your own lane, because that's what makes the world
Speaker 1: so interesting. If we all were doing the same thing,
Speaker 1: how boring would that be. So I just believe that
Speaker 1: God gave each of us are internal like best selves,
Speaker 1: and by owning that is, you get to your true trueness.
Speaker 1: And I feel like that's how you ultimately bless the world. Okay, gee,
Speaker 1: what do you want people to know? Um, we're on
Speaker 1: a time frame. Anything doesn't to be complicated. That you
Speaker 1: should have fun during the quarantine. That's right, you Jenevi
Speaker 1: said something. Right. The other day we had church which
Speaker 1: was so fun. Katherin or Willie and Genevieve put on
Speaker 1: church in the house at how Creek House and we
Speaker 1: all went around and said things that we were going
Speaker 1: to try to do this week to be blessed, and
Speaker 1: Geneviev said, I think we should take a walk. Take
Speaker 1: a walk, and what do you say? And and try
Speaker 1: to see things that you haven't seen before? How profound?
Speaker 1: And why is that? Because there's beauty everywhere? Should it be?
Speaker 1: Was very smart and very intentional. We're lucky to get
Speaker 1: to live together right now. It's a blessing. We've the
Speaker 1: lemonade out of limits, like we the quarantine happened, and
Speaker 1: we're like, let's get together and make the most of this,
Speaker 1: because when are we ever going to have a chance
Speaker 1: to live together with no schedules ever again? And at
Speaker 1: the end of this quarantine, what are you gonna have
Speaker 1: to say about it? I'm gonna have to say we
Speaker 1: were in nature every day Geneviev. Sonny feels it. Sonny
Speaker 1: and Genevieve got to form this relationship that who would
Speaker 1: who would have ever known? Okay by Sonny g who
Speaker 1: they would have never gotten a chance to have this
Speaker 1: relationship on this level. I know. And we've gotten to
Speaker 1: do things. Willie said it right, he was like, it
Speaker 1: goes to show the first couple of weeks. You're still
Speaker 1: fighting it a little bit because you're like, this is
Speaker 1: not what are we in? Like three or four now,
Speaker 1: you're just like given in what else to do? Finally,
Speaker 1: why would I not give into this? Like why would
Speaker 1: I not choose to see the blessings of this? Because
Speaker 1: here we are. I know, I'm not a doctor or
Speaker 1: a nurse. I'm so thankful for them. We pray for them,
Speaker 1: we send them all of our regards. God bless you all.
Speaker 1: And I'm not I can't do that, that's not what
Speaker 1: we're calling. As a matter of fact, we can't even
Speaker 1: go visit our grandfather in the in the hospital. So
Speaker 1: I'm going to give so much thanks for them and
Speaker 1: then do our part stay home and enjoy like staying
Speaker 1: home and being in a bad mood. What's that It's
Speaker 1: not gonna help anything? Yeah, so help were you? And
Speaker 1: I will say this last thing. I will say this,
Speaker 1: Never in our lifetime has the entire world suffered at
Speaker 1: the same time like nine eleven. But it didn't. This
Speaker 1: The world instant shut down. Nobody's thriving, like no businesses,
Speaker 1: maybe Purele and Cottonell, but everybody's in the same boat.
Speaker 1: And it's connecting us all as humanity. So yeah, it
Speaker 1: doesn't all status is being People still have their status
Speaker 1: entitle but like nobody's business is working right now, really,
Speaker 1: and the best thing you can do is just work
Speaker 1: on you. Like this is a reset for our souls
Speaker 1: in our life, and this is gonna mark time. So
Speaker 1: what are we going to remember when it's over? And
Speaker 1: I think we're blessed. We may all of us made
Speaker 1: the choice, and Mom and Dad too to be like, Okay,
Speaker 1: let's just let's just quarantine together. Let's quarantine in Texas together.
Speaker 1: Because when are in the middle of life and working,
Speaker 1: When do you have two months off of your job?
Speaker 1: Probably no. And I feel like we're so good at
Speaker 1: making time for each other. We always see each other
Speaker 1: at least every six weeks, but we've never had this
Speaker 1: amount of time together. So and seeing Sugar out there run,
Speaker 1: she is getting covered in mud head to toe cover
Speaker 1: every day. It's so skinny, the rabbits hopping free. I know,
Speaker 1: the little hamster Mollie. So I would just say big
Speaker 1: virtual hugs to everybody. Everybody's doing a good job, and
Speaker 1: just keep doing a good job, keep doing the best
Speaker 1: you can do, and it make some time for quiet
Speaker 1: and cheers. I mean, we've all had a little extra
Speaker 1: wine these days. Cheers and virtual hugs. I love you
Speaker 1: so much. Fight