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Speaker 1: the hands to the NFL Fantasy Live Podcast. James co

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Speaker 1: gets Almosconsin, Alex Gale Harger, Let's cracking in said it

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Speaker 1: be here. Harmon just gave us a mini drum roll

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Speaker 1: let's go uh wide receiver Procort Nasicater, the creator of

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Speaker 1: Reception Perception, Western Virginia's finest. We have Matt Harmon here

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Speaker 1: as well. What's up. Well, it is a fun time

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Speaker 1: in the NFL calendar. Like we've got free agency looming

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Speaker 1: like I was just I was just reading Rhodo World

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Speaker 1: Shermer said. Patremer says that Eli has multiple quality years left.

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Speaker 1: just it's interesting when you said Eli has got a

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Speaker 1: that's a lot quality starter and Dad, yeah, maybe I

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Speaker 1: So I'm trying to workshop a new analogy for this

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Speaker 1: fantasy line Jacksonville re up to Blake Bortles to the

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Speaker 1: You know he's also not good. Okay, so what wow?

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Speaker 1: So you just he hasn't been that good. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he has not been as good as they would hope.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, I mean you've already just stomped on one

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Speaker 1: of the favorite preseason narrative tropes of the It's gonna

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Speaker 1: be breakout. It's gonna be back here too, It's coming,

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Speaker 1: It's coming. But yeah, no, I would look, I just

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Speaker 1: want him to be a solid contributor to if he

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Speaker 1: goes to Tennessee, it'd be great to see him as

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Speaker 1: a salid contributor, uh to that offense. But man, I'll

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Speaker 1: tell you what. It would be interesting though, you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean with Corey Davis, Jarvis Landry and then

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Speaker 1: you know, with Derrick Henry in the backfield Marcus Mariota

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Speaker 1: as a quarterback, that offensive line still very good. I

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Speaker 1: don't know, it's an intriguing offense to me. Anyways, I

440
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Speaker 1: could put up points. I think Landry fits every NFL

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Speaker 1: team that's he's a typer player that's gonna make your

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Speaker 1: passing game well. Although as long as I mean, he

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Speaker 1: doesn't fitl with certain like San Francisco be a terrible

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Speaker 1: fit form you know, what I mean, Well, I just

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Speaker 1: mean like if they not saying like that, you have

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Speaker 1: anybody there, Like they have a guy in Trent Taylor

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Speaker 1: who can maybe do some those things. Yeah, and they

448
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Speaker 1: need to. But on the outside, yeah you no, I

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Speaker 1: agree with you. I'm just saying like, for whatever team

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Speaker 1: they can integrate a player like Jarvis Landry because he's

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Speaker 1: a slot receiver that's reliable. He's gonna catch passes very good,

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Speaker 1: and he's gonna bring production to your passing game. And

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Speaker 1: like the longer I look at football, like just produce,

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Speaker 1: just produce yards, produce catches, because that produces points, which

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Speaker 1: wins football games. It seems novel, but I think we

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Speaker 1: get lost in the weeks sometimes with everything else, Like

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Speaker 1: production matters. Landry is gonna make your past game more.

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Speaker 1: The thing with him is just how much you're gonna

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Speaker 1: pay him, Like he wants to be the highest paid

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Speaker 1: receiver in the league, and I think that would be

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Speaker 1: a mistake. But it seems good to want things right.

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Speaker 1: But if some team does do that, then I think

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Speaker 1: that's a bad move. I think he fits every team.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna make any offense better. But just like, my god,

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Speaker 1: are you really gonna pay him sixteen million dollars a

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Speaker 1: year over the course of five six years or whatever.

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Speaker 1: That's that seems this is still a fantas podcast. That's

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Speaker 1: why I'd rather have him go to a team like

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Speaker 1: Chicago or Baltimore, teams that have a real need and

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Speaker 1: that Landry could be a fantasy factor and that production

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Speaker 1: would matter a lot more. Like the Titans also have

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Speaker 1: Taiwan Taylor, who they've been reportedly high on. Again this

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Speaker 1: I like this guy, so like, why why add him

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Speaker 1: in there and then just muddle everything up? Like I'd

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Speaker 1: rather have Landry go to a team where he's a

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Speaker 1: clear need. He can get even his hundred sixty targets,

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Speaker 1: get yards, get eight nine touchdowns, and then everything's just

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Speaker 1: simpler for us. I think Chicago is the ideal spot

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Speaker 1: because they can pay They have it. Yeah, they can

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Speaker 1: pay him. They haven't need He'd be great for Trubiskie too,

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Speaker 1: exactly what they need at the position. Like talk about

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Speaker 1: a security blanket, like, oh, I'm in Trouble's not I know,

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Speaker 1: but that's not his game though, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: He's he's a guy that wants to make that big pass.

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Speaker 1: He's got a big arm. They need they need because

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Speaker 1: they need help at every single wide receiver. Okay, they're

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Speaker 1: so bad, except that if they spend that money on

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Speaker 1: Jarvis Landry, then do they do they not target Calvin

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Speaker 1: Ridley perhaps in the first I think they I think

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Speaker 1: they would be I think that'd be a great They

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Speaker 1: have nothing at the position, I mean literally nothing like

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Speaker 1: the only guy and like the only guy coming the

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Speaker 1: hypothetically they could come back. You can even get kind

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Speaker 1: of optimistic about his Cameron Merit and he's coming off

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Speaker 1: restricted free age, and so I don't know, that's a

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Speaker 1: tough one. Other than that they got nothing. NFL Networks

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Speaker 1: might Garrett Folo reporting that the Rams are leaning more

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Speaker 1: towards tagging safety LaMarcus Joiner than Sammy Watkins. The wide

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Speaker 1: receiver franchise tag worth sixteen million approximately, the safety tag

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Speaker 1: worth about eleven million dollars. I think financially it makes

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Speaker 1: sense for the Rams. The Rams maybe gambling possibly that

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Speaker 1: a receiver in Sammy Watkins who had just five and

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Speaker 1: ninety three yards last year won't get sixteen million in

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Speaker 1: the open market, which I think is a I think

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Speaker 1: that's a pretty good gamble. Although keep in mind they

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Speaker 1: did trade a second round draft pick to acquire the

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Speaker 1: services of Sammy Watkins, so certainly they're they're they're playing

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Speaker 1: a little bit of a chicken here with with Sammy

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Speaker 1: Watkins in his representation. Yeah, I mean, I think there's

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Speaker 1: I think people still believe in Sammy Watkins talent. But

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Speaker 1: I think you're right. Do you give sixteen million to

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Speaker 1: a guy who went till this past year never really

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Speaker 1: stayed healthy and you know, and I think I think

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Speaker 1: that's the fear. Uh. Once you get a reputation as

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Speaker 1: being injury prone, then that sticks with you for a while.

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Speaker 1: And so I think that's the big downside or that

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Speaker 1: you say that. But I feel like nobody's talking about that,

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Speaker 1: Like nobody's talking about the the injury history of Sammy

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Speaker 1: Watkins simply because he didn't get hurt last year. But

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Speaker 1: I I agree with you, it's a factor if you're

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Speaker 1: gonna pay him money. But it's just it just is

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Speaker 1: another reminder that, like the only thing people remember what

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Speaker 1: happened last year. I don't know, you think that's gotta

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Speaker 1: be a storyline with him. I don't feel like I

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Speaker 1: hear anybody. I feel like people people don't talk about

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Speaker 1: how awesome he was before this year, like on a

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Speaker 1: per play, per target basis, But they definitely don't talk

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Speaker 1: about that. They definitely don't talk about that, and they

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Speaker 1: don't talk about his injury history. They talked about, yeah,

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Speaker 1: he played all sixteen games and productive. So it's like

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Speaker 1: they're only focusing on which has happened recently. And I

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Speaker 1: think there's multiple reasons to be to be concerned about

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Speaker 1: Sammy Watkins. I'd like the same come back. I wish

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Speaker 1: I could, but I think I think he's gonna get

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Speaker 1: paid somewhere else because he is San Francist, because he

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Speaker 1: is good. Maybe San Francisco, I've hurt Carolina be in

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Speaker 1: the market too because they're looking to overhaul their whole

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Speaker 1: receiver corps. I think he gets paid because San fran

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Speaker 1: would be fun. There's a lot of teams, there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of teams that just need him and Marcus Goodwin

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Speaker 1: just streaking around on the outside, and then he Taylor

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Speaker 1: George also. I think this makes sense just because I

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Speaker 1: don't think we need to burn the Rams either for

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Speaker 1: flipping it too for Sammy because he's a great player,

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Speaker 1: had high upside, and they made the playoffs for the

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Speaker 1: first time and forever here. But they also I saw

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Speaker 1: you retweeted this too, Harmon, and I've had it open

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Speaker 1: on my computer all morning, Cameron da Silva had said.

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Speaker 1: Sean McVeigh the Combines said, the Rams are quote excited

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Speaker 1: about Josh Reynolds. He's a guy that has all the

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Speaker 1: traits and characteristics can separate as a big catch radius.

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Speaker 1: Somebody replied and asked by Sammy, wouldn't be shocked seeing

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Speaker 1: is a right now, Sammy, maybe a top through D

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Speaker 1: receiver in free agency, tag and trade, and Cameron said,

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Speaker 1: all things considered, it wouldn't be too surprising to see

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Speaker 1: him go. They are high on Reynolds. Reynolds is a great, great,

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Speaker 1: great sleeper. If Watkins, yeah, yeah, no doubt, no doubt

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Speaker 1: about it. The NFL reviewing the catch rule that god uh,

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Speaker 1: I think they're gonna revise the surviving the ground's so dumb.

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Speaker 1: If it sounds dumb, it is dumb dumb. But the

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Speaker 1: league also thinking about changing defensive pass interference in just

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Speaker 1: fifteen yards, making it more like the college game. I'm

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Speaker 1: cool with that. I'm kind of cool with that too.

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Speaker 1: I'm cool with that. Like I The worst thing to

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Speaker 1: me is the you guys get tangled and suddenly it's

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Speaker 1: a fifty yard penalty. It flips the field, It changes

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Speaker 1: the game, and you get to the point where often

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Speaker 1: especially struggling offenses, just use that as their whole game plan.

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Speaker 1: Let's just throw it up and let's just pick up

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Speaker 1: forty yards at a time. So you know, I'm I'm

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Speaker 1: cool with it. I I personally would love to see

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Speaker 1: the officials make the call between say an egregious intentional

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Speaker 1: p I and have that be a spot file thing

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Speaker 1: fifteen yard or But I think it takes a little

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Speaker 1: bit of power out of the hands of the officials too,

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Speaker 1: because if they make a horrible p I call, you

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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, the offenses get spotted at the

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Speaker 1: one I'm saying it. It takes a little power out

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Speaker 1: of the officials hands, which which I'm I'm in favor of.

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Speaker 1: You know, let these guys play. Um. If they make

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Speaker 1: a bad call, it's you know, it's mitigated significantly. Um.

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Speaker 1: So I think I like that. I like that a lot.

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Speaker 1: Um And obviously there's gonna be everyone's gonna think about anecdotally.

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Speaker 1: Oh well, I remember play where a guy was wide

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Speaker 1: open in the end zone and he just got tackled.

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Speaker 1: Shouldn't have spent the one. It's like, all right, listen,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, you know, but again, I think overall,

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Speaker 1: I think the impact will be back in a league

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Speaker 1: where you arguably have the best football players in the world, Like,

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Speaker 1: you still have to earn it. You still have to

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Speaker 1: earn your way down there. So you know, I kind

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Speaker 1: of like the idea too of defensive backs trying to

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Speaker 1: make a play, uh and not being quite as worried

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Speaker 1: about the pen. Yeah. Yeah, I think anything that takes

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Speaker 1: like lessons the officials impact on the game and also

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Speaker 1: less like anything that takes away them making judgment any

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Speaker 1: more judgment calls than they already do, is good for

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Speaker 1: the game. I'm in favor, all right. So there are

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Speaker 1: your top headline. Let's go to the phones, all right.

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Speaker 1: He is a two time Big Ten Defensive Player of

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Speaker 1: the Year from Ohio State, one of the great Rams

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Speaker 1: of all time, a man that did not miss a

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Speaker 1: single game in his seven seasons as a linebacker for St. Louis.

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Speaker 1: He is currently an analyst for the Big Ten Network.

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Speaker 1: We welcome in James Laura Iitis to this show. James,

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Speaker 1: what's up, man? How you doing? I'm good? How do man?

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Speaker 1: I'm doing well? Man. So all right, So you're working

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Speaker 1: for the for the Big ten network. Now one, there's

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Speaker 1: a there's a big name in that conference that is

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Speaker 1: expected to go uh somewhere in the top ten. That

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Speaker 1: guy's name is se Quon Barkley. Look, we know he's

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Speaker 1: good as a runner, right and as a pass catcher.

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Speaker 1: But you're a former linebacker, James, What specifically does se

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Speaker 1: Kwon do that gives defenders trouble? Well, gosh, you know,

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Speaker 1: I was. I was lucky enough to watch him play.

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Speaker 1: I went to that game against Ohio State, UM, and

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Speaker 1: and I've watched him wee weep and week out on film.

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Speaker 1: He can hurt you in so many different ways because

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Speaker 1: he's so explosive. Um. Not only did the silence the

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Speaker 1: crowd on the opening kickoff against the buck Eyes, but

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Speaker 1: later on uh in that game when that touchdown run,

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Speaker 1: his ability to stop and starting a dime. Uh. There's

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Speaker 1: certain angles that he takes. UM. There's certain ways of

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Speaker 1: his body bends. I think of the Iowa game, UM

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Speaker 1: leaping over to be back and taking a hit and

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Speaker 1: just landing, stick in the landing and keeping going. His

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Speaker 1: lower body strength, I think is what sets him apart.

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Speaker 1: So as a defender, you're thinking, Okay, do I just

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Speaker 1: go low on him? How to chop his legs out?

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Speaker 1: But he's so strong he might just um fly down

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Speaker 1: the pole as we call it sometimes, and you try

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Speaker 1: to tackle someone with big legs, and um, athletically, you

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Speaker 1: can't stop your feet on him because he's super fast. Uh.

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Speaker 1: He outran Josie Jewel that way. He got to stop

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Speaker 1: his feet and break to the outside. Uh. In that

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Speaker 1: football game and um, there's one play in particular against

637
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 1: Indiana that was a highlight. I don't know if you

638
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 1: remember this play, but he caught a a simple check

639
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 1: down and h T. Gray Scales, who's a line becker

640
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 1: who will get drafted out of in the end of

641
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 1: this year. Uh. He stopped in a way where his

642
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 1: knee was so far over his toes you thought any

643
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 1: other normal athletes probably would went to the ground on

644
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 1: his knee. He cuts it back and the ends up

645
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 1: becoming an explosive touchdown reception on a step with checkdowns,

646
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 1: but he's such he's so dynamic. Um, and really Penn

647
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 1: State didn't have a really good offensive line this year.

648
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 1: They struggled in a short yard of situation. It really

649
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 1: makes you wonder what kind of impact stake Kwan could

650
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 1: have had to find behind the more established off the line.

651
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 1: You bring it up, man, It's it's interesting to me.

652
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 1: There are certain guys that you know, maybe did not

653
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 1: have a prolific college career, but once they get to

654
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 1: the NFL and they play with professional level offensive linement

655
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 1: and skill position players all around him, they elevate their game.

656
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 1: As se Kwan Barkley, a guy that as great as

657
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 1: he was in college, can he elevate his game at

658
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 1: the next level. Yeah, I think so absolutely. If he's

659
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 1: a feature guy, you're not taking money back early on

660
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 1: he used to be featured. Um. I can't remember a

661
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:02,479
Speaker 1: running back that I've been um. I think Ezekie Elliott

662
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,479
Speaker 1: comes to mind, where every time you watched the gave

663
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 1: him the deacon and in college you expected him to

664
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 1: hit a big, uh sixtyard run. It's never broke open.

665
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 1: You know, stake Quan was the same way. But I

666
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 1: think stake Quand is even better as far as a

667
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 1: receiver by the backfield. If you're just thinking a lot

668
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,239
Speaker 1: of times too, with NFL guys and even guys who

669
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 1: are great college guys that don't do well in the NFL,

670
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 1: it's all about fit, and it's all about what kind

671
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 1: of organization do you go to. Do they believe in

672
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 1: you long enough? Do they give you some patients to develop?

673
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 1: Do they figure out how to use you to the

674
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 1: best of your ability? Um? You know you hear all

675
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 1: the time when it comes to this this time of season,

676
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 1: the biggest bus or the biggest surprises, you know, a

677
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,240
Speaker 1: lot of that has to do not with just a player.

678
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 1: Some of it, does you know, was obviously on motivation,

679
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 1: work ethic once they get a check, But a lot

680
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 1: of the times it's it's what kind of fit, um

681
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 1: do they do? They kind of go, you know, into

682
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 1: your in your system um, and as a coach, get

683
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 1: fired two years in and the next thing, and now

684
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 1: they're trying to oppress somebody else that doesn't want them,

685
00:31:57,560 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 1: and the kind of spiral down help from there. So

686
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 1: a lot of the things have to do with what

687
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 1: kind of fit and where they end up going as

688
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 1: far as the staff and how they're gonna be utilized. Hey, James,

689
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 1: you talked about his ability as a receiver, that being

690
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 1: Sae Kwon Barkley. Actually Pat Shermer today at the combine,

691
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 1: of course, is coaching for the Giants. Now we're picking

692
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 1: in the top two. He said today has literally no

693
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 1: use for a back that doesn't fit in as a receiver,

694
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 1: like so Sae Kwon Barkley. You mentioned his his ability

695
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 1: as a receiver. Who does he kind of in your

696
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 1: mind compared to like a current NFL back in terms

697
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 1: of what he can do before the ball arrives as

698
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 1: a route runner and then even afterwards. And you know,

699
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 1: that's a that's a really good question. It really is,

700
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 1: because obviously Diana Lewis and Dweenland is a guy is

701
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 1: a psynomenal route runner, a guy who was able to

702
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 1: to uh get open and make explosive play, got to

703
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 1: get the ball tame. But you know what, I really

704
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 1: it's hard to compare certain guys, you know, and you

705
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 1: have guys that have earned their stripes in the NFL.

706
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 1: I always kind of cringe when I hear like, well,

707
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 1: this this receiver here right here every year, Well, let's receiver.

708
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 1: He kind of has the tools of you know, of

709
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 1: Jerry Rice back when he was young. You know kiding this, gracious,

710
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 1: what are we doing? Some of these guys, You guys

711
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 1: don't know you know what I mean, Like you see

712
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 1: it all the time. The next good linebacker that comes

713
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 1: out gonna be paga quickly and you're like, come on, man,

714
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 1: you know some of these guys are just ragious. So

715
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 1: it's positively ten point um players because I don't want

716
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 1: to put that pressure on stake one if I just

717
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 1: think you know what's unique in the fact that Kenny Kenny,

718
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 1: he's not quite Christian McCaffrey as a out runner. But

719
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 1: that does that mean that he won't be as effective?

720
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 1: I don't know. Um, you know, pennci date a lot

721
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 1: of times. Unique thing about him that he's been able

722
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 1: to catch check down and go with it. He catches

723
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 1: go routes extremely well and adjust to the ball. But um,

724
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 1: you know, is he as dynamics as the Panthers trying

725
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 1: to use Christian McCaffrey. I don't know, but I know this,

726
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 1: he has the home run ability that McCaffrey does. Or

727
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 1: dad coming out of college and of the United to

728
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 1: see how that will translate. Can you talk to us

729
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 1: about Barkley's teammate Wide receiver day Shawn Hamilton. He reportedly

730
00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:00,160
Speaker 1: had a pretty good Senior Bowl week. UM, I guess

731
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 1: he reads more as the slot guy six ft two pounds,

732
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 1: But um, what makes him so effective? I mean you

733
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 1: see him making play, he teaching ever a week when

734
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 1: you'd watch and say they had guys all over to

735
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 1: the place, obviously at Barkley UM, but it seemed like

736
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:14,479
Speaker 1: whenever the team was had Don Barkley, day Sean wils

737
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 1: come up with a huge play. UM had that macta

738
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:20,800
Speaker 1: to get open, and it just makes really some unbelievable catches.

739
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 1: And and not only I always thought that he was

740
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 1: a guy that wasn't brought up enough. There's so much

741
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 1: talk about UM, you know, mixed Orley and Barkley and

742
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 1: Kasecky that I really thought that DeShawn Hamilton was a

743
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 1: guy that UM really stressed out defense. Because if you're

744
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 1: a decordinator going against that team, I mean, what do

745
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 1: you do? You know, A load the box about State

746
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,240
Speaker 1: quant but then that makes easy throws on the outside

747
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 1: from Micks Orley, and you're worried about this tight end.

748
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 1: So maybe he don't single and double the tight end

749
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 1: while they now you're banned up on the outside of

750
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 1: Dave Shant, So it was a really hard offense to

751
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:51,719
Speaker 1: slow down. But I thought weekend week out, he was

752
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 1: a guy that consistently, Um, you know again, one of

753
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,479
Speaker 1: those one of those guys maybe it would be, would

754
00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 1: have bigger, better stat Have you been not around a

755
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 1: lot of guys that had so much talent or an

756
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 1: office with so much talent. But I think he can

757
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 1: be one of those one of those. Uh, Like you said,

758
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 1: a slot guy in the NFL that's been able to

759
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 1: make some place for a lot of years. All Right,

760
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 1: So there's a wide receiver that I'm intrigued by. I

761
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 1: don't know much about him. I saw a little bit

762
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 1: of game tape on him. But this kid out of Indiana,

763
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 1: man Simmy Cobbs Jr. Six four to twenty. Um, you

764
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 1: talk about playing some of the best competition, having a

765
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 1: great game, eleven receptions a hundred forty nine yards versus

766
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 1: your Ohio State buck Eyes. What can you tell us

767
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:34,319
Speaker 1: about Simmy Cobbs Jr. Man, I'll tell you what that

768
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,319
Speaker 1: game alone, it seemed like you're talking about a guy

769
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 1: who translates in a game like you have one game

770
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 1: film to be like, you know what that National Football League?

771
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 1: It was that football game because the ability uh you know,

772
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:48,320
Speaker 1: Richard Lego was the quarterback that game for Indiana. He

773
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 1: he got replaces the year went on. But he threw

774
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 1: so many back shoulder balls. I think uh Simmy had

775
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 1: two or three one handed catches in that game that

776
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 1: you were just like wow. So the body size and

777
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:02,479
Speaker 1: catching the football and type windows um beating a guy

778
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 1: in Denzel ward Um who was gonna be a first

779
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 1: round pick out of Ohio State. But his ability to

780
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 1: not only make the I mean college a lot of

781
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 1: guys who love to see the stats right with the

782
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 1: white steamer and all those guys lighten it up, but

783
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 1: Sidney made real life NFL catches where you're not gonna

784
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 1: have a ton of separation and you have to kind

785
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 1: of outrest with some guys uh their dbs and built

786
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 1: per catchion these balls and a lot of these back

787
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:27,319
Speaker 1: shoulder type of catches. If I'm him, I'm just if

788
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 1: I any time I go into India this weekends, I

789
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 1: let's say I listen, I don't care what siling you're

790
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 1: gonna show me to show me watch the house stay game.

791
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:37,399
Speaker 1: And then he did. He was thinking me, I don't

792
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:38,879
Speaker 1: have any hair, but he's gonna me pull it out.

793
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 1: I was trying to I have that, Um, but he

794
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 1: was made us John me crazy. Um, you know as

795
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 1: a fan, but goodness, well, how impressive he was. Um

796
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,359
Speaker 1: a smart decision for him to leave and he's ah,

797
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 1: you know you're talking about the top super is the

798
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,879
Speaker 1: big ten. You know, not only a Sidney big body guy,

799
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 1: but you know there's a kid Maryland and d J

800
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 1: Moore as well, who was just excite, didn't know watch

801
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 1: but you look at what Dj. He wasn't able to

802
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 1: do much against Ohio State, Denzel Warren, those guys really

803
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 1: shut him down. So basically which makes Timmy Cobbs big

804
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 1: time game even more oppressive. Well, you mentioned Denzel Warden.

805
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 1: I feel like we'd be remiss to have you on

806
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 1: here and not ask you about the buck Eyes. And

807
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 1: then right, this is a guy who was kind of

808
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 1: in the shadow of your Marshawn Lattimore, Gary and Conley,

809
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 1: those kind of guys. UM, talk about what what do

810
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 1: you think he offers at the next level? Where do

811
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 1: you think he could beat potentially a great fit? Yeah,

812
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:31,399
Speaker 1: I think Listen Dell was a guy who you could

813
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:32,840
Speaker 1: put him on an island. You can tell him to

814
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 1: go play man coverage. He's one of those dbs. Just

815
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,879
Speaker 1: at the previous guys you mentioned that went through there, um,

816
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 1: that have a very short memory if they get beats.

817
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 1: I mean he got um when you watched the Indiana game.

818
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 1: He got beat a couple of times by Timmy Cos.

819
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:47,759
Speaker 1: But then there's also some plays where you're like, good

820
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:49,400
Speaker 1: there said you didn't even realize at one point, I

821
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 1: think he's one or two in the in the big

822
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 1: Tenant p bus for pass breakup. So he's a guy

823
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 1: that I feel like Ohio State stands going through the year,

824
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 1: where like because of the Lattimore's mc gary and Conway

825
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,839
Speaker 1: and Eli Apples, those guys they expected you know, well

826
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 1: this is just e vu now you know, no one

827
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,879
Speaker 1: should have any receptions in any game. That's just I mean,

828
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,840
Speaker 1: that's the way it felt like. But I had to

829
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:13,879
Speaker 1: try to test or mind people. Um whenever had got

830
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,879
Speaker 1: big technical work. But look, this guy is up there

831
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 1: and pass bat up and he's gonna get challenged because

832
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 1: all Shiado is gonna play a man or zero coverage

833
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 1: a lot of time. So he has a lot of

834
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 1: experience with it, which I think very uh fits very

835
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,879
Speaker 1: well on the National Football League. Um, like any other

836
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 1: um college gig going to Nation Football, their biggest adjustment

837
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 1: as the DV is gonna be the hands right keep

838
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:37,319
Speaker 1: you can you can physically assault the wide receiver all

839
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 1: the way down the field in the college game, you

840
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:41,880
Speaker 1: have that five yard rule in the National Football League,

841
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 1: So that's gonna be an adjustment. But he's the guy

842
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 1: that also is willing to tackle. You look at the

843
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 1: big hits that he's able to have this year. Um,

844
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,440
Speaker 1: he's a physical corner and so I really like what

845
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:55,319
Speaker 1: he's gonna be able to do for some franchise and

846
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 1: and really I think his best fit is anyone that's

847
00:38:57,719 --> 00:38:59,879
Speaker 1: going to be playing aggressive man coverage because he played

848
00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 1: it so much for how Stage James, Laura and Night

849
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Speaker 1: is from the Big ten Network. But let's talk about

850
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 1: the NFL. Now, obviously you've got a ton of experience there.

851
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 1: You know, the big trade was that Marcus Peters got

852
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 1: traded to your former team, the Rams. Do you view

853
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 1: him Marcus Peters as a zone or a man guy

854
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:19,919
Speaker 1: or does he fit in both schemes? And and really,

855
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:21,239
Speaker 1: how do you think he's gonna fit in with that

856
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 1: Wade Phillips defense and what he wants to get done

857
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,439
Speaker 1: in that three four. Well, here's my note about way.

858
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:29,320
Speaker 1: And some people are talking to people that they played,

859
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 1: Uh they watched the guys to play super fast. Um,

860
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 1: you know, I still talked to Alec Boatres and guys. Uh,

861
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 1: they love playing for him and they know that he's

862
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:41,759
Speaker 1: gonna adjust whatever he does to his players talent and

863
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 1: so uh, look, I love the trade. I think it's

864
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 1: it's great. It's gonna be good for for Marcus to

865
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 1: have a fresh start, um, and and go to a

866
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 1: place where he's gonna trying to prove himself and and

867
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:55,280
Speaker 1: just say hey, um, you know, hopefully a lot of

868
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:58,359
Speaker 1: the stuff that got Kansas City to a point to say, hey,

869
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 1: you know, we just need to move on to play

870
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 1: a lot of that getting corrected. Um. I think l

871
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 1: A thinks it will. And and uh that I think

872
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 1: Sean mcbab, being a young coach, knows how to relate

873
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:09,879
Speaker 1: really well to these players. And he's the guy who's

874
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 1: who's a motivator and um, talking to the guys who

875
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 1: have played for him, they just said that he's one

876
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 1: of those coaches. That's like, he doesn't have to try

877
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:19,720
Speaker 1: hard to earn your respect. He naturally gets it because

878
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:22,440
Speaker 1: because he's a he's a coach. That Um is a

879
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 1: man of his word. And obviously what he did at

880
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 1: at your really young age and you're one out there,

881
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 1: it was unbelievable. And so I think, really the big

882
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:32,879
Speaker 1: question is, you know what what happens with Tremaine Johnson? Um?

883
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 1: You know, do they do they try to keep him?

884
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 1: Do they let him walk? If he goes somewhere. I'd

885
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 1: be shocked if if I'm if I'm the Cleveland Browns,

886
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:42,359
Speaker 1: if I don't try to throw a ton of money

887
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 1: at him, having Greg Williams coached it before. UM. But

888
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 1: if I'm true, I'm thinking, look her, I thought Oakland

889
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:51,359
Speaker 1: might be interested in him. True as a calliboy's from

890
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:54,400
Speaker 1: out there in Calli. He loves the West Coast. Um,

891
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 1: I'm interested to see kind of what because I know

892
00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 1: I know he loves l A. I'm interested in the

893
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,919
Speaker 1: uh kind of what happens to true Um coming down

894
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 1: this this off season. Man, this is some great insight

895
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 1: from a great football player in James Laura Nights. Now, listen,

896
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 1: I know you're a football great, But James, you come

897
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 1: from a long line of pro wrestling. Laura Iitas is

898
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 1: your father. Joe A k A. The Road Warrior Animal

899
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:21,799
Speaker 1: was one of the greatest pro wrestlers of all time. Hey, listen,

900
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 1: other than Animal in Hawk all right, give me your

901
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 1: mount rushmore of pro wrestlers. Oh man, So you know

902
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 1: people are gonna be surprised. I didn't really grow up

903
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:33,280
Speaker 1: like you can know Pops dress and I was still

904
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 1: young when like Flare and all those guys started. Um,

905
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 1: you know, the Four Horsemen were around a little bit

906
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:40,840
Speaker 1: w c W. But I really I kind of I

907
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 1: kind of watch the most, um whenever my Pops was

908
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 1: at the time. So for me, like who I truly loved, Um,

909
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 1: I loved hd K. Sean Michaels is one of the

910
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:54,800
Speaker 1: talk about Yeah, I love Sean Michael, I love so

911
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 1: Cole who did it? Um the Rock the I would

912
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 1: I would almost loved watching the Rocks promos overtly over

913
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 1: anything else. But and all and also I think really

914
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:09,320
Speaker 1: as I got older, was just respect for the Undertaker.

915
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:12,360
Speaker 1: You could put Hogan in there, but Hogan, Hogan was

916
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:15,319
Speaker 1: his his Uh, I'll put this way, his gimmick and

917
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 1: his character was so strong, you know, the strongest probably

918
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 1: ever do it because about ask like wrestling in the ring.

919
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 1: I did love hit Man heart. I know I'm going

920
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 1: over the Russian War one, but I really think like

921
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 1: for me personally, the h b K like I remember

922
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:35,399
Speaker 1: my dad bringing me home when I was young. Um

923
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 1: like his actual like types, his red wines with the

924
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 1: hearts of the initial like pure hb K. I had

925
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 1: to type the blous everything. Um. But then stone fold Um. Yeah,

926
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:50,320
Speaker 1: the rock again and then taker. Anytime you heard that

927
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 1: the bell or I don't take this music, You're like,

928
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 1: there we go. It's still. I mean you can go

929
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 1: down to ramp L fifteen minutes, get to the ring

930
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 1: and something still I talk. It's true. The pop that

931
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 1: these guys got, man was just unbelievable. But yeah, uh no,

932
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 1: you're right. I love your mount rushmore that. This was

933
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 1: a debate I had online actually yesterday with a few

934
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:15,320
Speaker 1: different folks. Um, but Chance, Lauren iris Man, we appreciate

935
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 1: your time. Go check him out on the Big ten Network. Obviously,

936
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:22,399
Speaker 1: the dude comes in prepared. Obviously, the dude knows the game.

937
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 1: There is a reason why he is one of the

938
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Speaker 1: best all time linebackers of our era. This man so

939
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:32,320
Speaker 1: intelligent in approaching the game, James Laura, I was. We

940
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Speaker 1: appreciate the time. Man, hey anytime, thank you, great great interview,

941
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:44,440
Speaker 1: very good, I mean, so prepared man, so intelligent. It was,

942
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:46,240
Speaker 1: I don't know, one of one of the better interviews

943
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 1: certainly um that I can remember. He was so well prepared,

944
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:54,479
Speaker 1: it's unbelievable. I mean, the fact that he's the fact

945
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 1: that he's pulling out specific plays from specific games. It

946
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:01,400
Speaker 1: just has that, you know, mean, just etched into his memory.

947
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:04,279
Speaker 1: That's that's impressive. Man dedicated to his job in the booth,

948
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 1: which is good to see. Yeah. Simmy Cobbs is the

949
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:08,760
Speaker 1: guy who I have marked on my list to watch

950
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 1: chart but I haven't gotten to yet. And he made

951
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:13,359
Speaker 1: me really excited to check some of those games out

952
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 1: me too. Uh. The NFL Scouting Combine fires up Friday,

953
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 1: March second through Monday, March five. I guess technically it's

954
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 1: going on now, but you'll see these guys on the

955
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 1: field starting Friday. You can watch it on NFL Network.

956
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 1: We're gonna see running backs on Friday, We're gonna see

957
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:35,239
Speaker 1: quarterbacks and wide receivers on Saturday again, that's gonna be

958
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:37,839
Speaker 1: on NFL Network. Be sure to check it out there.

959
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 1: All right, So at the quarterback position, there's gonna be

960
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 1: a few names, and you've heard them all. Josh Rosen,

961
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:48,360
Speaker 1: Sam Donald, Baker, may Feel, Josh Allen, and Lamar Jackson

962
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:51,719
Speaker 1: running back wide receiver. I just throw out a name.

963
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 1: Give me somebody that you're curious, uh to see test

964
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 1: doubt Alex Skill, Oh you're going to me first. I'm

965
00:44:57,760 --> 00:44:59,360
Speaker 1: just gonna say, like, word of caution, Like most of

966
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 1: these quarterbacks aren't probably going to throw at the combines.

967
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:06,879
Speaker 1: A lot of them arend Donald. Most of these guys

968
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 1: are throwing at That was the first one was actually surprising,

969
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 1: and I was like, well, most of the other ones

970
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 1: will follow suit. After I saw the Donald noise said

971
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:15,840
Speaker 1: never mind. Roson says he's excited to throw. Yeah, I

972
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 1: know Mayfield, Alan Jackson or throwing. I think Mason Rudolph

973
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 1: may I think Donald right now is kind of the one.

974
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 1: The one exception which you can take a couple of

975
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 1: different ways. Is he not throwing because he's like, yeah,

976
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 1: I got a pretty good shot to go number one?

977
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 1: Or does he just want to do the whole like

978
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 1: I wanted on my own concasions. At this point he

979
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 1: can control the terms of his job. Interview. Yeah, as

980
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 1: the as the person number one overall pick it, it

981
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 1: probably behooves him to doubt. But as as as far

982
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 1: as people I'm watching, I want to see, like how

983
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 1: this second to third tier of running backs behind se

984
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 1: Kwon Barkley performs at the combine, Like we know he's

985
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 1: gonna blow it up. He's an athletic freak. He's gonna

986
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 1: he's gonna put up two thirty three. Yeah, I saw,

987
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:58,919
Speaker 1: I saw somebody posting a video of workout Barkley did

988
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 1: just I think at Han State, and he did more

989
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 1: bench press reps at than Clowney did. He's he's crazy,

990
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 1: He's he's gonna he's gonna destroy everything. So but that's

991
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,240
Speaker 1: why I want to see, Like how is Ronald Jones?

992
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 1: Look what about Sony Michelle, you know uh Chubb even

993
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:16,279
Speaker 1: both Scarborough? Does he have any agility or is he

994
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:18,400
Speaker 1: just you know, a freight train on the tracks. Like

995
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 1: these are some of the guys I want to see

996
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 1: because what's always cool is uh Zach Whitman, who runs

997
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 1: a three sigma athlete does the Sparks scores, and it's

998
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:27,799
Speaker 1: always nice to see guys that pop up on the

999
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 1: Sparks score that actually produced later. It's not obviously like

1000
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 1: a hundred percent predictive metric, but a couple of big um, Yeah,

1001
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 1: it's a piece of the puzzle. A couple of big

1002
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 1: Sparks performers last year who had good fantasy in real

1003
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 1: life success where Aaron Jones and Elvin Kamara, because they

1004
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 1: both were way high on the Spark list. So who

1005
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:45,840
Speaker 1: are some of these guys who might not be expecting

1006
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 1: so much. That's the list from last year. Kaffrey was

1007
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:50,360
Speaker 1: way up there. Even look at Matt Brida, he was

1008
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 1: up there. Chris Carson was up there pretty high. Yeah,

1009
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:56,239
Speaker 1: I mean and that those are guys that popped up

1010
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 1: in the in the preseason and ended up being like

1011
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:01,400
Speaker 1: Rumor Mills, the stuck on the roster and got and

1012
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 1: like David Johnson blew up the combine and had a

1013
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 1: high Sparks score in his year, and he was a

1014
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:07,319
Speaker 1: guy that wasn't, you know, high on the radar. So

1015
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:09,280
Speaker 1: that's what I'm gonna be looking for is which guys

1016
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 1: put up these great metrics and have college production that

1017
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 1: we can then just start to watch this a guy,

1018
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:17,359
Speaker 1: a guy that I think fits into that that you

1019
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 1: mentioned earlier, James calin Blage State, who you know, tape

1020
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 1: wise and statistically didn't blow anybody away, But everybody you

1021
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 1: talked to or who talks about him talks about his

1022
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:29,920
Speaker 1: overall athletic ability. I mean, there's some talk that he

1023
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 1: could end up being maybe the surprise star of the

1024
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 1: combine with what he does. Uh, it helps that he

1025
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 1: had a good, good Senior Bowl week, you play well

1026
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 1: in practice, had a nice game down there in Mobile

1027
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 1: as well, So he's not getting mentioned a lot amongst

1028
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:44,919
Speaker 1: the top running backs. But I do want to watch

1029
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:47,279
Speaker 1: it and see maybe he sneaks in and after, you know,

1030
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:49,359
Speaker 1: once we get into mid March, if we're not talking

1031
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 1: about him a little more, Carolyn Blage obviously needs to

1032
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 1: find the right schematic fit. You know. I was surprised

1033
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 1: because Bucky Brooks actually had Sony michelle Um ranked higher

1034
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:01,279
Speaker 1: in terms of a prospect over his teammate Nick Chubb,

1035
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 1: who was the actual starter. Uh. There, I was a

1036
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 1: little bit surprised about that. So I think some of

1037
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 1: it has to do with Chubb and the knee injury. Yeah,

1038
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 1: coming back off of that a little bit, and and

1039
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:14,240
Speaker 1: Sony just looked, I mean great, like an unbelievable especially

1040
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:17,840
Speaker 1: in the playoff right for Georgia. So I'm I'm that

1041
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 1: right there. That dichotomy, that's what I'm looking for. Man,

1042
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 1: I'm really interested to see how Nick Chubb plays out

1043
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 1: versus Sony Michelle, because again, I just I'm surprised by

1044
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:30,360
Speaker 1: that because Chubb was so productive in college and he

1045
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 1: was the starter ahead of Sony. But yet you know

1046
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:36,279
Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks, who knows what the hell he's doing. Man,

1047
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:39,400
Speaker 1: Um has Sony Michelle ranked ahead of Nick Chubb, so

1048
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:41,759
Speaker 1: that's certain. So does Lance Airline. For the Record, lands

1049
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 1: lances Sony with a five point nine grade, he's his

1050
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:48,239
Speaker 1: fourth highest rated running back. Interesting, uh, and Chubb is

1051
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:50,440
Speaker 1: isn't two foot much farther down, he's the seventh highest

1052
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 1: at a five point sixth grade. So the only reason

1053
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 1: I like Chubb more is because he just seems more

1054
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 1: of like an actual running back that has to work

1055
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:01,799
Speaker 1: in between the tackles and figure out blocking teams and

1056
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:05,840
Speaker 1: doing all those things. Michelle is just just a beast athlete.

1057
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:07,879
Speaker 1: And I don't know, I mean again, I haven't seen

1058
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 1: him enough, uh to say either way whether or not

1059
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 1: he's going to be um, you know, a functional NFL

1060
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:17,440
Speaker 1: running back. The early chatter I keep hearing about Sony

1061
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 1: Michelle is Alan Camara is that is that team teams

1062
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 1: are looking at him to possibly do what or be

1063
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 1: the kind of role player Camaro was. And and you're

1064
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:28,879
Speaker 1: right and and we had talked about this last year,

1065
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 1: but Marcus, you and I about how we were not

1066
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 1: really sure. Actually, as a matter of fact, I was

1067
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:35,880
Speaker 1: not high on him at all because because of the

1068
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 1: fact that he couldn't really crack the starting rotation, uh

1069
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:44,399
Speaker 1: for Tennessee. But again, we talked about Bucky Brooks. I mean,

1070
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:49,719
Speaker 1: Bucky was so high, I mean just unbelievably high on

1071
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 1: Alvin Camara and um and was proven right worth nine

1072
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:56,920
Speaker 1: catches last year nine But but yere before he got

1073
00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:59,920
Speaker 1: a few more pass I feel like they don't just

1074
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,320
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm not a hund percent sure, but

1075
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:05,239
Speaker 1: I just feel like Georgia didn't really throw into the

1076
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 1: backfield all that often. But we'll see. I mean there

1077
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:10,360
Speaker 1: are listen, guys, I'm telling you, there's a lot of

1078
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:13,239
Speaker 1: running backs out there that are super super interesting. Royce

1079
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 1: Freeman out of Oregon, who I think is a good player. Uh,

1080
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 1: this kid was Shot Penny at San Diego State. Oh

1081
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:24,400
Speaker 1: my goodness, unbelievably productive in college as well. Watch watch

1082
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 1: his tape, you know, because oh he is he's cool.

1083
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 1: They went back to back years with you know, just

1084
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:34,799
Speaker 1: stat busting running backs. But Shot Penny is a different back.

1085
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:37,440
Speaker 1: Well he's a big boy. That's he's bigger than Pumpre

1086
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 1: was a time. Yeah, I was gonna say he faced

1087
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 1: two of him. So yeah, there's a lot of running

1088
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:45,880
Speaker 1: backs out there. Um, in terms of wide receivers, anybody

1089
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:48,279
Speaker 1: that you're really interested to see test out Matt Harmon.

1090
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:50,120
Speaker 1: I think that one of the top guys that I

1091
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:51,759
Speaker 1: want to see what they do that I think the

1092
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:54,440
Speaker 1: commay is gonna matter is Courtland Sutton. He's big. We

1093
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:56,880
Speaker 1: talked about him, I think a couple last podcast or

1094
00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:59,760
Speaker 1: a couple of podcasts ago like he is a player

1095
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:02,880
Speaker 1: that as the size has they in the ball in

1096
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 1: the area. Yeah, and and in a class that right

1097
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 1: now is looks like just to me, and I'm not

1098
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 1: the first one to say this is filled with a

1099
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:14,319
Speaker 1: lot of like number two's number three's complementary. Guys. I

1100
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 1: think teams are going to be intrigued by the players

1101
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:18,960
Speaker 1: that potentially have a higher ceiling. And I think if

1102
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:22,160
Speaker 1: Sutton shows by his athletic testing that he might have

1103
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 1: that higher ceiling, you know, inside of him or whatever,

1104
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 1: then he's gonna get pushed up the board. Uh. That

1105
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:30,799
Speaker 1: he's gonna be somebody that teams are more encouraged to

1106
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 1: take that chance on, because hey, are we gonna if

1107
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 1: we're shooting for number one? And I think a lot

1108
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 1: of teams right now would need a number one receiver. Uh,

1109
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 1: then they're gonna be more interested in him if he

1110
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 1: tests well. So he's somebody I'm watching. And just another

1111
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:45,279
Speaker 1: note too on the quarterbacks. It doesn't really have anything

1112
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 1: to do with fantasy or whatever. But like Lamar Jackson

1113
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:51,400
Speaker 1: right now doesn't have an agent, and yeah, his I

1114
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:55,239
Speaker 1: think his mom is representing him. Uh. And I think

1115
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:59,279
Speaker 1: Marcus called this connect two months ago or whatever like that.

1116
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:02,440
Speaker 1: The Lamarge accent storyline is gonna be really frustrating no

1117
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:05,960
Speaker 1: matter what side of the aisle you sit on, doesn't matter. Uh.

1118
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 1: And and what you're alluding to is the fact that

1119
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 1: a lot of folks feel like Lamar Jackson needs to

1120
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:12,800
Speaker 1: switch positions well, that that he needs to switch positions

1121
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:14,759
Speaker 1: or he can't play quarterback, and that there's a lot

1122
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 1: of like racial coding behind how. And I agree with

1123
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 1: all of that. That that that and how he's discussed totally.

1124
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 1: But and I can guarantee you now, because he doesn't

1125
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:25,239
Speaker 1: have an agent, people are gonna come out of the

1126
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 1: combine with some stuff to say about how he goes

1127
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 1: through the process or whatever. Mar, what are you doing? Bro?

1128
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:33,360
Speaker 1: So that's the story. I don't know, that's the storyline

1129
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 1: to me that I want. On the one side, I

1130
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:38,840
Speaker 1: get it because rookie contracts are slotted. There's not a

1131
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 1: whole lot of negotiating then, but you gotta go. I mean,

1132
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 1: this is the thing. Yeah, it's slotted. But the earlier go,

1133
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:47,279
Speaker 1: the higher your draft or the higher your prices on

1134
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:49,520
Speaker 1: your second contract. That's just I mean, that's just the

1135
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 1: fact of life. Because if they if a team is

1136
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 1: drafting you in the first round, they are so motivated

1137
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:58,480
Speaker 1: to give you a chance. And if they give you

1138
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:00,280
Speaker 1: a chance, you put up stats, you put up staff,

1139
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 1: you get a big second contract. Looks that means he's

1140
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 1: got five years to get an agent. You know, I said,

1141
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:10,160
Speaker 1: we have this process play out too, because we don't

1142
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:12,040
Speaker 1: know that he might have met with a bunch of

1143
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 1: agents and they wanted to try and manipulate him to

1144
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 1: fit into the draft system, and Lamar might have just said, like,

1145
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:18,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do me like I'm gonna go out, I'm

1146
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 1: gonna play Football'm gonna show everybody that I'm a quarterback.

1147
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:22,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna deliver on the combine them and deliver on

1148
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 1: my pro day, and then teams can drafting where they

1149
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:26,759
Speaker 1: want and I'll get an agent. In reality, all you

1150
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:28,920
Speaker 1: need this first time around is a lawyer to kind

1151
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 1: of talk you through the contract to make sure the

1152
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:32,839
Speaker 1: language doesn't doesn't doesn't mean he can't sign one before

1153
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:35,480
Speaker 1: the draft, the draft like two months away. I Also,

1154
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:37,319
Speaker 1: the only thing that I would say is I think

1155
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:41,399
Speaker 1: that it would probably help to have a professional round

1156
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:43,239
Speaker 1: to be like, Hey, this is this is what's going

1157
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:45,400
Speaker 1: to happen here, this is how the combine is gonna go.

1158
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 1: Then we're gonna do your pro day like this somebody

1159
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 1: like somebody that knows the process. Yeah, what the process

1160
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:52,480
Speaker 1: is going to be like? Not so much like the

1161
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:55,960
Speaker 1: contract thing yet totally. They need an agent und and

1162
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 1: not only that, and not only that, I bring it

1163
00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 1: up because I think of guys like Lee Stein, who

1164
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:04,799
Speaker 1: has made a career from taking relatively unknown guys, are

1165
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 1: unheralded guys and propping them up and building a market

1166
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:11,840
Speaker 1: for them. He builds a market for some of these quarterbacks.

1167
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 1: And quite frankly, if Lamar Jackson doesn't have he doesn't

1168
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:19,160
Speaker 1: have somebody building that market for him. But he's also

1169
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:21,360
Speaker 1: he's also not an unknown commodity, and he won the

1170
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:23,839
Speaker 1: Heisman two years ago and was a runner up last year,

1171
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:25,799
Speaker 1: of course, but they're still talking about him in the

1172
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 1: second round, which is just mind boggling to me, you

1173
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:30,920
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Like, so that's more about the

1174
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:35,360
Speaker 1: closed mindedness of NFL gms and decision makers. So the

1175
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:36,760
Speaker 1: fact that they can't look at a guy like Lamar

1176
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 1: Jackson and see what, you know, All these quarterbacks are flawed,

1177
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:42,080
Speaker 1: every single one of them is oh yeah, no doubt uh.

1178
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:45,240
Speaker 1: And the fact that, for whatever reason, because he doesn't

1179
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:49,920
Speaker 1: check all the boxes of typical, you know, traditional NFL quarterback,

1180
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 1: a lot of people aren't clever enough or creative enough

1181
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:55,880
Speaker 1: to figure out how to use them I mean quite frankly.

1182
00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 1: I look at Lamar Jackson, Baker Mayfield, and Josh Allen

1183
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 1: um all his either project quarterbacks or guys that have

1184
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:04,960
Speaker 1: a lot of volatility in their game. I really like

1185
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 1: Sam Donald, I really like Josh Rosen, their classic pocket passers.

1186
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:10,760
Speaker 1: They they've got the size and they've got their requisite

1187
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:13,680
Speaker 1: arm strength. But those three other guys, Jackson, Mayfield, Allen,

1188
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:16,240
Speaker 1: I may come on. I mean, these guys are definitely

1189
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:18,919
Speaker 1: high risk hivro ward guys, but there should be they

1190
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:21,960
Speaker 1: should be lumped in the same grouping. I think I thought,

1191
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:25,400
Speaker 1: I think Baker is ahead of those two Allen and Jackson.

1192
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:26,960
Speaker 1: I think he had I think the size and the

1193
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:28,880
Speaker 1: the size, I get it. But I think there, I

1194
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 1: think he has a good arm, and I think he

1195
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 1: can make all the throws. I mean, statistically, he was

1196
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:36,400
Speaker 1: outrageously good. He's got a sup super accurate, good ball placement,

1197
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:38,000
Speaker 1: all that sort of stuff. So I think he's more

1198
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:41,319
Speaker 1: closer to that Donald Rosen tier. But I agree with you.

1199
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:45,440
Speaker 1: I mean, Allen and Jackson present really similar propositions, and

1200
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:48,759
Speaker 1: I don't understand what is the what's the difference here? Like, Oh,

1201
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:50,680
Speaker 1: I don't I don't. Josh Allen might be the number

1202
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:53,000
Speaker 1: one overall guy and Lamar Jackson's gonna be I think

1203
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:57,600
Speaker 1: what the differences between the two of them. Also, it's

1204
00:55:57,640 --> 00:56:02,239
Speaker 1: not my money either side, right, I'm not paying it.

1205
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:05,240
Speaker 1: I'm not receiving it, and I was, but to on

1206
00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:09,080
Speaker 1: on Alan and Jackson to like, I'm both what they run,

1207
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:10,880
Speaker 1: both of them is gonna be really intriguing. There are

1208
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:13,840
Speaker 1: rumors that Alan could run a four six, which is

1209
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 1: pretty outrageous. That's like, that's like Andrew Luck. You know,

1210
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:19,920
Speaker 1: even Cam Newton's sort of level of athleticism there at

1211
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:22,960
Speaker 1: his size. And if Romar Jackson rips off like a

1212
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:25,880
Speaker 1: Michael Vick type workout that I think could really boost

1213
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:28,920
Speaker 1: his stock to something. I think he's stupid, but sometimes

1214
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:31,960
Speaker 1: I think teams just need to see it, even though

1215
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:34,120
Speaker 1: like you can watch the guy play and you can

1216
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:36,640
Speaker 1: see he's that level of athletes. The guy can gun

1217
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:38,879
Speaker 1: it to man. Let's also not forget that, as I mentioned,

1218
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 1: the draft is two months away, which is an eternity

1219
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 1: in draft season. Sure, no, no, because again I bring

1220
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:48,720
Speaker 1: up Lee Steinberg. But remember remember two years ago Patrick Mahomes,

1221
00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:53,440
Speaker 1: I mean he was not discussed in the early part

1222
00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 1: of the draft process about being one of those top

1223
00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:59,200
Speaker 1: quarterback guys. But you know, again, he goes to the combine,

1224
00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:02,200
Speaker 1: he starts ripping all these big throws and people are like, Okay,

1225
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:04,600
Speaker 1: I kind of like it. But but again I just

1226
00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:06,920
Speaker 1: I don't know. Boggles the mind that Lamar Jackson doesn't

1227
00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:10,520
Speaker 1: have an agent right now, kind of like let's let's see,

1228
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:13,040
Speaker 1: let's see, let's see it all right, because because again,

1229
00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:14,560
Speaker 1: just the last point is that Lamar is not one

1230
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 1: of these guys that needs to do it. He has

1231
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:18,920
Speaker 1: balled for two years, He has the he has the resume,

1232
00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:22,160
Speaker 1: he has the accolades, the hardware in his trophy case.

1233
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:24,320
Speaker 1: So like he's just gonna go do his thing. Can

1234
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:26,360
Speaker 1: I suspect it? Can I say this about Lamar Jackson too?

1235
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:28,640
Speaker 1: So two years ago I had fired off a tweet

1236
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:32,800
Speaker 1: because I was watching Louisville play UM, and I had

1237
00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 1: I had openly speculated as well. Uh, this was before

1238
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:38,320
Speaker 1: he was eligible to come out UM whether or not

1239
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:42,400
Speaker 1: he could play quarterback at the professional level. And I

1240
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 1: was just buried online by people saying, oh, this is

1241
00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 1: all you know, this is racist or whatever it is.

1242
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:53,720
Speaker 1: And my thought process then two years ago was that. No,

1243
00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:56,800
Speaker 1: we're talking about a guy that barely pushes two hundred pounds,

1244
00:57:57,520 --> 00:57:59,560
Speaker 1: and we're also talking about a guy who at that

1245
00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:03,280
Speaker 1: time aim had a career completion percentage around fifty, which

1246
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:09,160
Speaker 1: is horrific. Um. But he's gotten better and so and

1247
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:14,160
Speaker 1: as I have given been given more information, I've changed

1248
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:16,400
Speaker 1: my break there as well, which I think a lot

1249
00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:19,320
Speaker 1: of folks get stuck on online right, which is just oh,

1250
00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:22,320
Speaker 1: you said this two years ago and now you're backtracking. No, bro,

1251
00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:25,680
Speaker 1: I got more information and things have changed, and that's

1252
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:28,439
Speaker 1: why you can change your thought process on this as well.

1253
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:31,320
Speaker 1: But and again I'm I'm much higher Lamar Jackson today

1254
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:33,200
Speaker 1: than I was two years ago. But I just wanted

1255
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:35,439
Speaker 1: to throw that out there for anybody who might try

1256
00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 1: to calm at me. What said Oh and and pull

1257
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:39,200
Speaker 1: up a tweet from two years ago saying, oh, I

1258
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:41,760
Speaker 1: think he should switch positions. Twitter detectives will be out,

1259
00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:46,480
Speaker 1: you know what, Lamar Jackson. You know, as as young

1260
00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:48,880
Speaker 1: men tend to do. Also got a little bigger, still

1261
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:50,960
Speaker 1: like he got a little taller, got a little thicker.

1262
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:52,960
Speaker 1: Right now, his size is not that far off of

1263
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:55,440
Speaker 1: a guy like Aaron Rodgers Rodgers like six to twenty.

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson currently per the interwebs right now, we haven't

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Speaker 1: measured him at the combine is six three two twelve.

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Speaker 1: That'll be I mean, that'll be interested to see if

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Speaker 1: he measures in now. He put in. He put in

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Speaker 1: a lot of work in the weight room. There's no

1269
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Speaker 1: doubt about it. He looked physically stronger just this past season.

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Speaker 1: All right, enough of all that, let's close out with

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00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:17,600
Speaker 1: Daily DAPs. Let's go here we go. Uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm in the Daily DAP show on Netflix, Dirty Money Money,

1273
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:26,480
Speaker 1: which it's a document or whatever he is. I haven't

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00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:29,160
Speaker 1: watched that one. Is he in the like thumbnail? Though

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00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:31,680
Speaker 1: I feel like I've seen it might be? Yes, So

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00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:34,120
Speaker 1: I watched it's I think it's six Arma Votes, Armor

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00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:37,880
Speaker 1: Bro six episodes each right around about an hour. I've

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00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:41,080
Speaker 1: watched the first two, and basically each one is about

1279
00:59:41,640 --> 00:59:44,560
Speaker 1: different corporate schemes and scams that have been perpetrated on

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00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:48,040
Speaker 1: the public. The first episode was about Volkswagen and They're

1281
00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:50,720
Speaker 1: They're clean diesel scandal about how it turned out to

1282
00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:55,640
Speaker 1: not be clean at the league at all a billion dollars.

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00:59:56,440 --> 00:59:59,360
Speaker 1: I just watched the last night, the one about uh,

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01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:02,280
Speaker 1: he paid a lending guy who also was like a

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01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:05,760
Speaker 1: big time race car driver on this Yes, he's the

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01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:07,640
Speaker 1: guy who based since he opened up all these paid

1287
01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:11,520
Speaker 1: a lending stores and and was you know, predatory lending

1288
01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:13,720
Speaker 1: and taking money from a lot of you know, unsuspecting

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01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:16,520
Speaker 1: people who were kind of living on the margins. But

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01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:19,400
Speaker 1: he also was you know, a big time ferrari racer,

1291
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:21,360
Speaker 1: uh and that sort of thing and kind of living

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01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:23,040
Speaker 1: it up on the side. And it's just been really

1293
01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:25,840
Speaker 1: interesting kind of watch this thing and watch how some

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01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:28,920
Speaker 1: of these people operate. But it's six episodes, and like said,

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01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:31,120
Speaker 1: through two episodes, it's it's been very entertaining. So Farth

1296
01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:33,280
Speaker 1: all right, there you go, Alex Galehard what do you get.

1297
01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:35,680
Speaker 1: I've got two depths. First one goes to the movie

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01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:39,520
Speaker 1: Annihilation that Natalie Portman stars and came out this past weekend.

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Speaker 1: I really enjoyed it. Our good friend in colleague, Patrick

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01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:47,160
Speaker 1: Clavon hated it um which I can understand. It's a movie.

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01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:50,840
Speaker 1: It's kind of a unique sci fi movie. It's gorgeously shot. First,

1302
01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:54,640
Speaker 1: it follows all this five woman team and they're going

1303
01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:57,880
Speaker 1: into this mysterious presence called the Shimmer that they've sent in.

1304
01:00:57,920 --> 01:01:00,360
Speaker 1: People do it because it's expanding on the the world

1305
01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:02,240
Speaker 1: and it's been it's based on a book, but people

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01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:04,200
Speaker 1: go into it to investigate it, and nobody's ever come

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01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:07,440
Speaker 1: out except Natalie Portman's husband, so she's going in to

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01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:09,520
Speaker 1: try and solve it. And it's I think it's really cool,

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01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:12,640
Speaker 1: it's really interesting, it's different, it's kind of thought provoking.

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Speaker 1: The ending, I can easily see why it would make

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01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:18,680
Speaker 1: some people mad because it's not exactly very definitive. It's

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01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:20,520
Speaker 1: one of those somewhat one of those leaves it up

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01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:22,960
Speaker 1: to interpretation. It's like and you can you can read

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01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:24,280
Speaker 1: it a couple of different ways. And then and I've

1315
01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:26,960
Speaker 1: been reading some thought thought you know something pieces on

1316
01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:29,280
Speaker 1: it and stuff. But the point is that I want

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01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:31,280
Speaker 1: to daily dap it because like, if you're somebody like

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Speaker 1: me who likes interesting, good adult like thought provoking sci

1319
01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:37,120
Speaker 1: fi movies, you have to go see them when they're

1320
01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:39,320
Speaker 1: the theater. Sure, you can't just be like, ah, this one,

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01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:40,680
Speaker 1: I don't think it's gonna be that good. I'm not

1322
01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:43,760
Speaker 1: gonna go see it. Like they don't make enough of those,

1323
01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:45,400
Speaker 1: so go like, not enough people want to see Blade

1324
01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:47,400
Speaker 1: Runner last year, which was one of the best movies

1325
01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:49,920
Speaker 1: of the year, which was stupid. Yeah, I didn't make

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01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:52,120
Speaker 1: a massive money at the box office, which I thought

1327
01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:55,040
Speaker 1: it would have. But uh, so go see Annihilation please,

1328
01:01:55,040 --> 01:01:56,800
Speaker 1: like discuss it with your friends. I think it's gonna

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01:01:56,800 --> 01:01:59,160
Speaker 1: be one of those movies where you know, ten years

1330
01:01:59,160 --> 01:02:01,640
Speaker 1: down the line, people will revisit it and be like, damn,

1331
01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:03,200
Speaker 1: this was a pretty good movie, Like I should talk

1332
01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:05,680
Speaker 1: about this movie again. And then the other DAP goes

1333
01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:09,160
Speaker 1: to a show slash my friend Chris Fisser. He is

1334
01:02:09,640 --> 01:02:13,160
Speaker 1: an assistant editor on the show Unsolved on USA, which

1335
01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:16,440
Speaker 1: is about the Tupac and Biggie murders, and it follows

1336
01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:19,000
Speaker 1: both the timelines of back when the murders happened and

1337
01:02:19,040 --> 01:02:21,640
Speaker 1: when the case was reopened like ten years ago to

1338
01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:25,520
Speaker 1: try and to try and solve it um because Biggie's

1339
01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:27,600
Speaker 1: mom leveled a lawsuit against the l A. P. D

1340
01:02:27,720 --> 01:02:30,480
Speaker 1: or something and uh but anyways, he's an assistant editor

1341
01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:31,840
Speaker 1: on that. So we all got together last night. A

1342
01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:33,600
Speaker 1: bunch of us didn't watched the premier and it's a

1343
01:02:33,600 --> 01:02:35,920
Speaker 1: pretty pretty interesting show. I mean, the guys they have

1344
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:38,640
Speaker 1: to play the young Tupac and Biggie are pretty pretty

1345
01:02:38,640 --> 01:02:40,480
Speaker 1: spot on. They look they looked apart and they sounded

1346
01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:44,840
Speaker 1: and it's it's kind of a fun set up. And

1347
01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:47,280
Speaker 1: it's got um what's his name Jimmy Simpson who was

1348
01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:50,000
Speaker 1: in Westworld and was one of the post of cards

1349
01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:53,320
Speaker 1: when But that dude is awesome. That dude is awesome

1350
01:02:53,320 --> 01:02:55,200
Speaker 1: and everything, like he's kind of a chameleon. He can

1351
01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:57,160
Speaker 1: play a real skizy guy that you don't like. He

1352
01:02:57,160 --> 01:02:58,680
Speaker 1: can kind of play a bit of a hardass, but

1353
01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:01,240
Speaker 1: he's good in this. John stumml is one of the leads.

1354
01:03:01,640 --> 01:03:03,560
Speaker 1: Not in love with him so far, But it also

1355
01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:05,560
Speaker 1: has it's got a great cast. It's got a Bochem

1356
01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:09,040
Speaker 1: Woodbine who was what's his name? He was from Fargo

1357
01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:12,320
Speaker 1: season two. Uh, he's the black guy. Uh it was

1358
01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:14,400
Speaker 1: like Moses or something. He had an interesting name in Fargo.

1359
01:03:14,760 --> 01:03:17,120
Speaker 1: But he was awesome in that and he looks good

1360
01:03:17,120 --> 01:03:19,320
Speaker 1: in here so far too. So Daily Depster Chris for

1361
01:03:19,400 --> 01:03:21,439
Speaker 1: getting on a good scripted show. He had been stuck

1362
01:03:21,440 --> 01:03:24,040
Speaker 1: in reality TV for a long time, and uh, I'll

1363
01:03:24,040 --> 01:03:26,280
Speaker 1: be I'd probably be intrigued to keep watching Unsolved as well.

1364
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Speaker 1: So there you go. All right, Matt Harmon, what do

1365
01:03:28,280 --> 01:03:31,360
Speaker 1: you got? I think I'm good. So this weekend my

1366
01:03:31,360 --> 01:03:34,240
Speaker 1: my girlfriend converted me to Costco. I'm sorry, did you

1367
01:03:34,280 --> 01:03:38,040
Speaker 1: just use the G word out loud? Breaking news? I've

1368
01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:41,560
Speaker 1: been here, we go, so I'm a Daily Depp Costco.

1369
01:03:41,720 --> 01:03:44,080
Speaker 1: But it was what do you mean you had never

1370
01:03:44,080 --> 01:03:49,680
Speaker 1: been to a Costco before? Z? Why? What? Never? Like

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01:03:50,120 --> 01:03:52,480
Speaker 1: that's I'm trying to process this all this information. It's like,

1372
01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:54,560
Speaker 1: it's not really so it's not really my scene. And

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01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:57,040
Speaker 1: this is why this kind of thing that a single

1374
01:03:57,080 --> 01:03:58,760
Speaker 1: man does not go to cost Like what the hell

1375
01:03:58,800 --> 01:04:02,520
Speaker 1: am I going to talking about all that? Let's let's

1376
01:04:02,560 --> 01:04:06,040
Speaker 1: walk through for the free samples. Yes, I mean let's

1377
01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:08,240
Speaker 1: walk through. Also, remember we live in l A. And

1378
01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:10,640
Speaker 1: this is a sun this was a Sunday. So here's

1379
01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:13,800
Speaker 1: here's the here's my problem. Uh, Like, who doesn't like

1380
01:04:13,840 --> 01:04:16,240
Speaker 1: a thirty six pack of chocolate chip cookies? Okay, well

1381
01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:18,320
Speaker 1: come on, we're getting there. So I don't like I

1382
01:04:18,320 --> 01:04:21,320
Speaker 1: don't like a lot of crowded places, a lot of people,

1383
01:04:21,480 --> 01:04:24,600
Speaker 1: especially a lot of like annoying people that are annoyed,

1384
01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:27,400
Speaker 1: like and that is a place like that is just

1385
01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:29,280
Speaker 1: full with a bunch of people that look like they're

1386
01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:33,000
Speaker 1: piste off to be like, you chose to be here anyway,

1387
01:04:33,080 --> 01:04:36,840
Speaker 1: So it's just not like you're projecting. What are you talking? Also,

1388
01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:39,200
Speaker 1: quick quick aside, James, getting to the Costco in l A.

1389
01:04:39,200 --> 01:04:41,520
Speaker 1: Is a nightmare because they not only put a Costco

1390
01:04:42,040 --> 01:04:44,560
Speaker 1: which is as a very attractive location for a lot

1391
01:04:44,560 --> 01:04:49,040
Speaker 1: of people in and out, there's an in and out

1392
01:04:49,160 --> 01:04:52,160
Speaker 1: and a Starbucks. Yeah, so it's like it's just a

1393
01:04:52,480 --> 01:04:55,640
Speaker 1: vacuum of people sucking them always into it a lot.

1394
01:04:55,720 --> 01:04:59,040
Speaker 1: But anyways, so just in general, not really not really

1395
01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:01,760
Speaker 1: like my secret ever. But the reason I was converted

1396
01:05:02,320 --> 01:05:05,480
Speaker 1: it was I I got a nice uh four pack

1397
01:05:05,560 --> 01:05:07,440
Speaker 1: of Stone beer for like thirty bucks. I like, there

1398
01:05:07,440 --> 01:05:09,880
Speaker 1: you go. So they've got great deals like that, That's

1399
01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:12,520
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. And I eat I eat the

1400
01:05:12,560 --> 01:05:15,880
Speaker 1: same whole grain bread every morning for breakfast. Uh And

1401
01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:17,920
Speaker 1: I got two packs after like seven bucks. That thing

1402
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:20,360
Speaker 1: costs like five dollars in a good grocery store. So hey,

1403
01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:23,240
Speaker 1: I'm in, alright, So Ali DAPs to cost you win

1404
01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:29,080
Speaker 1: you Win Corporations, I'm in. I love Costco. I've been

1405
01:05:29,080 --> 01:05:31,720
Speaker 1: going to Costco for cheez twenty years. I gotta get

1406
01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:34,080
Speaker 1: I gotta get my mind right. Well, yeah, I love

1407
01:05:34,120 --> 01:05:40,600
Speaker 1: cost It's really absolutely is. But you do come away

1408
01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:42,320
Speaker 1: to like you're like, man, I feel like I just

1409
01:05:42,360 --> 01:05:44,760
Speaker 1: spent a lot of money today. But at the same time, like,

1410
01:05:45,080 --> 01:05:47,240
Speaker 1: you know, I got like five things at toothpaste, like

1411
01:05:47,240 --> 01:05:49,080
Speaker 1: fifteen dollars. I never need to buy toothpaste for the

1412
01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:53,040
Speaker 1: rest of your life forever. Five five things a toothpaste.

1413
01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:55,960
Speaker 1: That's incredible. So I'm talking about they got like the

1414
01:05:56,000 --> 01:06:01,920
Speaker 1: tall and sides of Listerine I got, I got paper towels.

1415
01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:03,520
Speaker 1: I like, I don't even have a space in my

1416
01:06:03,560 --> 01:06:05,480
Speaker 1: apartment to store all this crap. I'm buying all this

1417
01:06:05,520 --> 01:06:09,320
Speaker 1: stuff and Bault give me a break, Like fifteen avocados

1418
01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:12,960
Speaker 1: for six dollars. Come on, get real, there's a lot

1419
01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:15,480
Speaker 1: you I mean. Yeah, so look, I'm I'm being I'm

1420
01:06:15,520 --> 01:06:18,800
Speaker 1: becoming domesticated. I'm getting I'm growing up. This sucks, but

1421
01:06:19,040 --> 01:06:23,840
Speaker 1: whatever you win, Corporations, Dailey DAPs next week, Harmon's got

1422
01:06:23,840 --> 01:06:26,400
Speaker 1: a daily dap. Going to bed early, Yes, I tried

1423
01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:28,280
Speaker 1: this new thing. I don't even want to talk about that,

1424
01:06:28,560 --> 01:06:30,120
Speaker 1: and don't want to talk about there going to bed

1425
01:06:30,160 --> 01:06:32,000
Speaker 1: early thing, like do you go to bed early? Now?

1426
01:06:32,280 --> 01:06:35,960
Speaker 1: I don't. I maybe when she's there, I go to

1427
01:06:35,960 --> 01:06:39,439
Speaker 1: bed earlier. I'll just say that. But you know what,

1428
01:06:39,960 --> 01:06:43,840
Speaker 1: when I'm there, I'm there, give us your dap and

1429
01:06:43,920 --> 01:06:46,280
Speaker 1: save this whole conversation. And I'm there by myself. I'm

1430
01:06:46,440 --> 01:06:48,720
Speaker 1: I'm staying up past midnight just for the damn sake

1431
01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:52,920
Speaker 1: of it, because I can. What's up? What are you

1432
01:06:52,960 --> 01:06:55,800
Speaker 1: a child? This is like when I started eating like,

1433
01:06:55,880 --> 01:06:59,240
Speaker 1: you know, cereal, like sugary cereals for dinner in college

1434
01:06:59,240 --> 01:07:01,680
Speaker 1: because my parents warn't around. That's what you sound like? Yeah,

1435
01:07:01,720 --> 01:07:05,360
Speaker 1: I do, But why why if your girlfriend's and why

1436
01:07:05,400 --> 01:07:08,040
Speaker 1: do you guys go to sleep earlier? James? Move on,

1437
01:07:08,240 --> 01:07:11,000
Speaker 1: Let's just what's your dad? What? James? What rap artists

1438
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:14,640
Speaker 1: did you find on YouTube? This? Seriously? Where are we going?

1439
01:07:15,280 --> 01:07:18,160
Speaker 1: I've got I don't have very much. I was gonna

1440
01:07:18,240 --> 01:07:21,560
Speaker 1: daily debt my I've been going to a boxing gym.

1441
01:07:21,640 --> 01:07:23,600
Speaker 1: Now pick that up during the off season because I've

1442
01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:27,760
Speaker 1: got the time. Um, oh, humble brag is it? I'm

1443
01:07:27,800 --> 01:07:30,240
Speaker 1: going to going to a gym that's a humble bragg.

1444
01:07:30,320 --> 01:07:33,280
Speaker 1: He doesn't have, he doesn't doesn't cost more than my

1445
01:07:33,560 --> 01:07:38,080
Speaker 1: mony four hour fitness membership. Look this how I view

1446
01:07:38,160 --> 01:07:40,080
Speaker 1: and I've I've saved up so much money from not

1447
01:07:40,120 --> 01:07:44,439
Speaker 1: going to the gym regularly. Nice, Now I can that

1448
01:07:44,440 --> 01:07:47,520
Speaker 1: that that money now can go over here. That makes sense.

1449
01:07:47,800 --> 01:07:49,840
Speaker 1: You can see. You gotta watch too. Let's talk about that.

1450
01:07:50,040 --> 01:07:52,560
Speaker 1: What's the watch that I always look at? Your big

1451
01:07:52,560 --> 01:07:54,720
Speaker 1: watch over here? You know how I hit up? You

1452
01:07:54,880 --> 01:07:57,240
Speaker 1: know how I acquired this watch? Is that that watch?

1453
01:07:57,280 --> 01:07:59,479
Speaker 1: I forgot about that one? Whatever, it's still a big watch.

1454
01:07:59,600 --> 01:08:03,560
Speaker 1: It was okay, there you go daily DAPs to my

1455
01:08:03,600 --> 01:08:05,920
Speaker 1: boxing gym, which I went there this morning as a

1456
01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:11,640
Speaker 1: matter of fact. Uh, work out not enough obviously. Uh.

1457
01:08:11,840 --> 01:08:16,200
Speaker 1: Producer Christina, what do we got? Um, I'm actually really

1458
01:08:16,200 --> 01:08:18,680
Speaker 1: glad that you liked Annihilation because I'm going to see

1459
01:08:18,720 --> 01:08:20,840
Speaker 1: that tonight after work. Nice, let me know what you think.

1460
01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:22,920
Speaker 1: I will. I'm actually really excited if you If you

1461
01:08:22,960 --> 01:08:25,360
Speaker 1: hate it, we can have an in depth discussion. Claybone

1462
01:08:25,360 --> 01:08:26,760
Speaker 1: and I didn't get an indepth discussion. I was like,

1463
01:08:26,800 --> 01:08:28,120
Speaker 1: why did you hate it? And he was like, I

1464
01:08:28,160 --> 01:08:30,080
Speaker 1: wanted it to be Arrival. I thought it was going

1465
01:08:30,120 --> 01:08:32,360
Speaker 1: to be Arrival and it wasn't so, which also was

1466
01:08:32,400 --> 01:08:34,840
Speaker 1: a great movie. I was a good We can talk

1467
01:08:34,840 --> 01:08:37,599
Speaker 1: about it once I see it later. God Um didn't

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Speaker 1: do much this weekend, However, I recently started to love

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Speaker 1: Thai food. Oh welcome. Anybody else likes Thai food? Big fan?

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Speaker 1: Did you grew up in l A or no? No?

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Speaker 1: Oh you grew up Connecticut? Okay, So first time out here.

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Speaker 1: Tried ty Foon a few weeks ago. Would yes, just

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Speaker 1: like you know exactly. Decided to go a little crazier

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Speaker 1: and went to Night Market over in West Hollywood. Hands

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Speaker 1: down the best food I think I've ever had. Highly

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Speaker 1: recommend to check it out. When did you move someone

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Speaker 1: who has never had Thai food before? Yeah? Um, I

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Speaker 1: moved out here last June. Okay, okay, welcome to l

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Speaker 1: as a full year Yeah, coming up on the full year. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Oh man. The world is your oyster. There's so many

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Speaker 1: fun things. That's great restaurants to eat at as long

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Speaker 1: as you stay on the West Side. Good. Perfect. We

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Speaker 1: got an elitist in our James. I had to drive

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Speaker 1: to Hollywood last night. It was awful, terrible. The West

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Speaker 1: Side bubble, It's the greatest bubble in the world. Why

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Speaker 1: would you ever want to leave get out of my

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Speaker 1: life as the West Side is the best side. Give

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Speaker 1: me a break, bro, every every time for this podcast,

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Speaker 1: you know when we don't do it at ten am,

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Speaker 1: running late, running yeah, I really want to leave the bubble.

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Speaker 1: Give me a break, you know what? Fair? All right?

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Speaker 1: There go for Matt Harmon for producer Christina Alex kelhar MGM,

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Speaker 1: my got Marcus grant up, James cot we'll see you

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Speaker 1: next week. Wow w W. I don't I don't