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Speaker 2: There is a lot of controversy, swear swear, A lot

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Speaker 2: of controversy swirling around Karen Bass after last week's insane

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Speaker 2: statement by her on Fox eleven with Alex Michaelson that

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Speaker 2: she wasn't aware of the fires or the fire weather

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Speaker 2: that was going to hit Los Angeles.

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Speaker 1: Quick timeline again.

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Speaker 2: The first fire warnings from the National Weather Service went

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Speaker 2: out on January second. She leaves for Africa on January fourth.

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Speaker 2: The warnings intensify as the days where on, and she

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Speaker 2: even she even sends out or someone sends out on

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Speaker 2: her Twitter reiterating the fire warning, posting the fire warning,

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Speaker 2: and she was not in contact apparently with the fire

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Speaker 2: chief Kristen Crowley. The day of the fire, or the

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Speaker 2: night before the fire, before it happened, so that they

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Speaker 2: extra firefighters and engines into the high risk areas in

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Speaker 2: the foothills on both sides of the Santa Monica Mountains.

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Speaker 2: There's no evidence that she took any action at all

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Speaker 2: until the fire broke out and then started getting on

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Speaker 2: the phone. But there was no prevention meetings. There was

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Speaker 2: no hey, what are we going to do if this

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: So she goes on Alex Michaelson and says she wasn't

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Speaker 2: frankly like like, she's being true. I love when people

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Speaker 2: go frankly frankly means I'm being truthful here, and I

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Speaker 2: assume that means you're not always being truthful, right, So

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Speaker 2: you're you're you're highlighting this moment that I'm telling you

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Speaker 2: the truth. It's like when people say, well, to tell

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Speaker 2: you the truth, it's like, well, don't you always or

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Speaker 2: honestly honestly yes, And a lot of those are just verbal,

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Speaker 2: they're filler words. But with her, uh, I was nearly

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Speaker 2: every politician that they they're always lying or misleading people,

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Speaker 2: and they know that's what we think. So when she says, frankly,

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Speaker 2: you know, that's a real warning here, it's like, okay,

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Speaker 2: all right, here's some truth. And then she says, I

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Speaker 2: wasn't aware of the warnings. I mean, that's that's I

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Speaker 2: is one of the most preposterous things any politician has

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Speaker 2: I literally have not run across a single person who

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Speaker 2: Like we're really screwed. Because now this this Karen Bass

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Speaker 2: is supposed to lead us to recovery, right, And as

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Speaker 2: it turns out, her employees are admitting that well, of

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Speaker 2: course they knew about the warnings. And Tracy Park, the

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Speaker 2: La City council person for that district on the West Side,

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Speaker 2: is also in shock that Karen Bass would not be

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Speaker 2: aware of the warnings. I want to play Tracy first.

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Speaker 2: There's two city council people who have spoken out against

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Speaker 2: the seventh district, and she went on Channel five this

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Speaker 2: So Monica Rodriguez is gonna come on, and then Tracy

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Speaker 2: Park and that's it. No one else is speaking out.

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Speaker 2: Everybody on city Council has gone mum, and you know,

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Speaker 1: They always do this. They're waiting for it to blow over.

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Speaker 2: And you can't have the worst natural disaster in American

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Speaker 2: we're available. This is never blowing over. Let me go

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Speaker 2: to Tracy first, and we have a series of short

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Speaker 2: about the warnings.

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Speaker 3: It was on every news channel, it was on every

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Speaker 1: And she has more cut eight.

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Speaker 3: I can't speak to what she knew or what her

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Speaker 1: I don't have any insight to that.

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Speaker 1: That's true. Everybody knew.

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Speaker 2: If you were conscious, if you were awake, people in

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Speaker 1: Everyone knew. Pets new. I mean they because pets react,

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Speaker 2: They know when there's quakes coming, they know when storms

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Speaker 4: She's sticking with this narrative, though. I do think she's

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Speaker 4: going to come out and say, Okay, guys, I I

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Speaker 2: No, there's no follow up answer that will fix this mess.

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Speaker 2: She is painted in a corner. Nobody believes her. I've

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Speaker 2: never seen anything like it. I mean, I'm trying to

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Speaker 2: think of a comparison where somebody, I guess maybe like

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Speaker 2: Bill Clinton claiming he didn't have sex with Monica Lewinsky. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and then the stain came out on the dress, right,

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Speaker 2: and you know, he was backed into a corner.

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Speaker 4: He didn't have actual intercourse, So he's.

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I don't know what her wiggle room was

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Speaker 1: And then Tracy's reaction to Crowley being fired.

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Speaker 3: I am disappointed and surprised by this decision.

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Speaker 2: Now, Monica Rodriguez is saying that because one of the

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Speaker 2: excuses that Bass has used to fire Crowley was that

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Speaker 2: and Rodriguez says, well, she's scapegoating Bass, escapegoating Crowley, and

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Speaker 2: that the normal procedure for after action reports means they

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Speaker 2: week ago that they were still mopping up from the rains.

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Speaker 2: The suggestion that Chief Crowley was not agreeable to participating

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Speaker 2: She evaded that question. So finally, you know, Tracy has

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Speaker 2: first time she's opened up seriously questioning, seriously questioning, how

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Speaker 2: And now Monica Rigaez is getting even more aggressive here,

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Speaker 2: and this one needs to be done. Is like this,

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Speaker 2: this is its supposedly a new error where we're gonna

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Speaker 2: the fire warnings. That that can't that's not gonna that

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Speaker 2: is not going to stand. It just simply cannot. When

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Speaker 2: we come back. I'm going to play you some clips.

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Speaker 2: James O'Keefe is an undercover journalist and he had an

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Speaker 2: undercover video camera talking to Alexander Bose who works in

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Speaker 2: Bass's office. And also there was a LEDWP worker as

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Speaker 2: well who is caught by this undercover camera. And wait

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Speaker 2: till you hear what Alexander Bose and the LEDWP guy

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Speaker 2: have to say. Boz is especially revealing about what the

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Speaker 2: thinking was at city Hall in the days leading up

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Speaker 2: to the fire. You're going to be shocked, angered, amazed

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Speaker 2: all that stuff.

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Speaker 1: Next, you're listening.

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Speaker 6: To John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM six forty.

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Speaker 2: Karen Bass has a guy working for him named Alexander Boz.

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Speaker 2: Bo Z h he is, let me see this International relations.

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Speaker 2: That's what he is. International relations. Works in the LA

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Speaker 2: Mayor's office. Yes, and Alexander Boz was caught by James

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Speaker 2: O'Keeffe's hidden camera, and O'Keefe posted this on X We're

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Speaker 2: gonna play you a series of cuts where Alexander Boz

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Speaker 1: Cut three, I have no idea of fire believe of

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Speaker 1: course they didn't. The thing is there's nothing making but

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Speaker 2: So the first they did, so what he's saying, they're

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Speaker 2: So of course they did. Of course they did. But

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Speaker 2: the thing is there's nothing they can do. So that's

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Speaker 2: the attitude of the Mayor's office and Karen Bass there's

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Speaker 2: nothing we can do. Well, it's no wonder she went

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Speaker 2: to Ghana and it's no wonder.

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Speaker 1: There was no pre fire meeting with.

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Speaker 2: Kristin Crowley because apparently Dassing her staff thought, eh, what

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Speaker 2: do you want to We can't do anything.

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Speaker 1: Big wins coming, big fire maybe coming. Hey, we don't know.

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Speaker 2: Bozz Alexander Boz actually blames Palisades residents.

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Speaker 7: I was that today with the fires and helping people.

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Speaker 2: It was it's just crazy like excums.

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Speaker 1: Because these people like they've literally like they've lost everything.

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Speaker 1: Like people are like literally breaking.

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Speaker 2: Down in its tears while we're like just we're trying

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Speaker 7: Yeah, okay, that's just really good victims from policies or everybody.

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Speaker 1: But the other thing to you I don't like what this.

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Speaker 5: Like a lot of these, a lot of the houses

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Speaker 7: Out of code like nobody gave me. I don't know,

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Speaker 7: Like this is like a long time like waiting to happen.

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Speaker 1: It is just like a taking time off. But like

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it just wasn't the way it shouldn't be.

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Speaker 2: I can't count how many likes he threw into that.

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Speaker 2: It was less than a minute that he spoke. Boz said,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna repeat this in case you didn't hear the

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Speaker 2: the audio. Clearly enough, they've lost everything. Their yards were

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Speaker 2: bomb the houses like they're supposed to be like a

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Speaker 2: a ticking time bomb. So it's the Palisades Residents fault

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Speaker 2: that Karen Bass didn't act on the warnings that she

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Speaker 2: claims she didn't here, and that Kristin Crowley didn't send

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Speaker 2: up the extra firefighters and engines that she thought would

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Speaker 2: be better used. Well better repurposed by having the firefighters

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Speaker 2: get around to do in the brush clearance. So that's

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Speaker 3: A Los Angeles.

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Speaker 2: Yes, one big plan of paras is to integrate like

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Speaker 5: And it's not like their charity cases like we're not.

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Speaker 2: We're That's like a big like strategic goal of the OP.

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Speaker 1: It it's fire season. The department is half funded.

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Speaker 2: Homeless people start fourteen thousand fires a year and Bass

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Speaker 2: That has nothing to do with her job, nothing to

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Speaker 2: They all talk like their fifteen year old Valley girls

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Speaker 4: We all do end up saying that awful word like

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Speaker 1: But I catch all of us saying it. All of

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Speaker 2: I say it sometimes, but some people have this compulsive

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Speaker 1: I know, that was a lot.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a lot of likes, and it makes them

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Speaker 2: you know, it's all owners homeowners fault. And let's not

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Speaker 1: Right later on.

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Speaker 2: In the hour we're gonna talk, we're gonna play a

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Speaker 2: guy who's just incoherent, just and and he was he

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Speaker 2: this as part of their job. But wait till you

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Speaker 2: hear Luna, because he talks about the reservoir. He'll tell

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Speaker 2: Coming up next, another angle to this whole story, which

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Speaker 2: has so many of them. We are going to talk

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Speaker 2: with Matt Pacucko. We had him on during the Aliso

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Speaker 2: Canyon debacle. You know that natural gas leak that's still

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Speaker 6: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM

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Speaker 6: six forty.

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Speaker 2: John Cobelt's show Moistline for Friday is eight seven seven

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Speaker 2: Moist Steady six eight seven seven Moist Steady six, or

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Speaker 2: use the talkback feature on the iHeartRadio app. Matt Pakucko's

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Speaker 2: coming on with us. We had him on many times.

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Speaker 2: He was involved with a lot of residents who lived

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Speaker 2: If you remember that natural gas leak that made thousands

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Speaker 2: It still goes on to this day. This story is

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Speaker 2: about the toxic waste that's being hauled to landfills in

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Speaker 2: a federal government dumping the waste could be a loophole.

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Speaker 2: The Sunshine Canyon Landfill is supposed to be getting this

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Speaker 2: wildfire debris from the Palisades Malibu area, and people are

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Speaker 2: are you.

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Speaker 1: Are you there?

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Speaker 5: I'm here, I'm here, John, all right.

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Speaker 2: Hey, thanks for coming on again. Well, this this group

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Speaker 5: Grenada Hills and beyond. I mean they're all they're fighting

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Speaker 2: Know about, right right, Yeah, because I know in Calabasas

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Speaker 5: Yep. So here's one thing I wanted to be clear

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Speaker 5: trying to impede the recovery of the fire victims. This

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Speaker 5: and BASS Board of Supervisors are down playing how hazardous

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Speaker 1: Well tell us the backstory.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so that debris we all have heard many times.

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Speaker 5: They're not even going to test it. They are going

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Speaker 5: We're bypassing all the laws and because it's faster and

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Speaker 5: Just this year two one hundred complaints of odors and emissions,

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Speaker 2: Like, what's this protest going to supervisors?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, vot are. Board of Supervisors has a vote tomorrow

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Speaker 2: Oh, I'm sure they are, and they should be. You

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Speaker 5: Yeah, there's an organization called the Center for Applied Ecological Remediation.

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Speaker 2: involved in the Calabasis protest too, or is that a

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Speaker 2: different group.

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Speaker 5: I'm not, I'm not directly. They got a hope thing

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Speaker 5: going on over there, and I imagine the other landfills

439
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Speaker 5: we just haven't. We've got our hands full over here. Yeah,

440
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Speaker 5: all of us, all of us need to say that

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Speaker 5: this has to go to these rated landfills that are

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Speaker 5: far away from population centers, and it's going to cost

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Speaker 5: more and too bad.

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Speaker 2: County supervisors, anybody respond to say you know you're right

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Speaker 2: or you're wrong, or you know we're going to look

446
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Speaker 2: into this. Anybody showing because because normal what they do

447
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Speaker 2: is they lie. Everybody in government lies about you know,

448
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Speaker 2: toxic air, toxic waste. They always claim that everything is cool,

449
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 2: and they're often wrong. I mean nine to eleven was

450
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Speaker 2: the greatest example of that. You had thousands of people

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Speaker 2: into the ending up but dying after the EPA shored

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Speaker 2: everyone in the area that the air was safe.

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Speaker 5: I haven't heard direct then.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't believe a single government official when they say

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Speaker 2: that that the toxic waste or sludge your air is safe.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. I haven't heard directly from their mouths what they've

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Speaker 5: said about. Oh, I have, but that there's so much

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Speaker 5: in vote, but that doesn't matter. What matters tomorrow is

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Speaker 5: their their vote. People can do public comments. You can

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Speaker 5: go to Saveporter Ranch dot org and find the Sunshine

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Speaker 5: Canyon page would link you to all this stuff, including

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Speaker 5: Border Supervisors meeting. You've got to get comments in by today.

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Speaker 5: You can phone in tomorrow with meetings downtown LA tomorrow

464
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Speaker 5: at nine thirty am. They're the ones that can put

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Speaker 5: a big break on this.

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Speaker 1: All right, give that, Give that a website address.

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Speaker 5: Again that is save Porter Ranch dot.

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Speaker 1: Or save Porter Ranch dot org.

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Speaker 2: And this is about stopping the dumping at the landfill,

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Speaker 2: the Sunshine Landfill, Sunshine Canyon Landfill in the Granada Hills area.

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Speaker 5: This is all the landfills, all.

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Speaker 2: The landfills any others besides Calabasas or or they shipping

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Speaker 2: the toxic waste of all the landfills in the county.

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Speaker 5: There's seventeen of them on the list.

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Speaker 2: Really yeah wow, all right, So so there's a reason

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Speaker 2: that all the because I wondered if some of the

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Speaker 2: supervisors just won't care because it's not their district. But

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Speaker 2: this is something everybody ought to care about. All the

479
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Speaker 2: supervisors ought to stop because this shouldn't be near uh

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Speaker 2: in normal, normal neighborhoods and residencies. There's no way this

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Speaker 2: should go on. They got to spend the extra money

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Speaker 2: and spend the extra time and take it out far

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Speaker 2: away wherever these specialized landfills are there.

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Speaker 5: Six months, six months the government gonnfect government going to

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Speaker 5: pay for it. Let's start shipping it out for six months, all.

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Speaker 1: Right, Matt, let us know what happens.

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Speaker 5: Okay, we'll keep you tuned, all.

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Speaker 1: Right, Mago. He's a resident.

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Speaker 2: And it's shocking what they try to get away with.

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Speaker 2: And Karen Bass and Newsom, they just abandoned you, right,

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Speaker 2: all their talk about all their environmental concerns, it's all

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Speaker 2: a lot of hooey when it comes down to the moment,

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Speaker 2: and you need a strong leader to say no, you're

494
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Speaker 2: not going to put this poisonous, toxic trash near people's

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Speaker 2: homes in residential neighborhoods. We're not going to have that.

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Speaker 2: We're going to take it far away where people don't live.

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Speaker 2: Newsom in Bass not there for you. When we come back,

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Speaker 2: I'm going to play you the clip from James O'Keefe's group.

499
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 2: They did some undercover recording. We played you a few

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Speaker 2: clips of the best employee he's with International Relations, Alexander

501
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 2: Boz admitting that Bess knew about the warnings of fire

502
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 2: and blamed the homes being out of code for all

503
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Speaker 2: the destruction and admitted that Karen Bass her main interest

504
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 2: was going to gone to get a consulate here in

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Speaker 2: La for that country.

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Speaker 1: When we come.

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Speaker 2: Back at LADWP, employee Angel Luna talks about the reservoir

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Speaker 2: and whether the extra water would have made a difference.

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Speaker 6: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM

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Speaker 6: six forty.

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Speaker 2: James O'Keefe does all that undercover journalism. He's been doing

512
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Speaker 2: it for fifteen years and he's got some good stuff

513
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Speaker 2: that he posted online. He had a couple of well,

514
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Speaker 2: a female journalist who works for O'Keefe secretly recorded a

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Speaker 2: discussion she had with Alexander Bose, who works in international

516
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Speaker 2: relations for Bass, and admitted in clips that we played

517
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Speaker 2: earlier that Bass knew about the fire warnings, blamed the

518
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Speaker 2: Palisades residents for their homes being out of code, and

519
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Speaker 2: said one of the main purposes of the trip was

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Speaker 2: to get a consulate for the Nation of God here

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Speaker 2: in Los Angeles.

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Speaker 1: That was really important.

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Speaker 2: Also, o'keeth had somebody record an La DWP employee named

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Speaker 2: Angel Luna, and we have him on this clip talking

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Speaker 2: about the empty reservoir and whether the water would have

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Speaker 2: made a difference.

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Speaker 7: It's like everybody's just kind of like one of the

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Speaker 7: quick happened.

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Speaker 8: So that reservoir we went out of like we took

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Speaker 8: it out of service because there was a hair like

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Speaker 8: on a floaty covers, like you know, it's a block

532
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Speaker 8: a billion dollars or so because of that floaty cover

533
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Speaker 8: to a pair or something like that. But then we

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Speaker 8: like that the cover is rated for like twenty five years,

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Speaker 8: and how long.

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Speaker 7: Was the reservoir empty?

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Speaker 8: It's okay, a year also even though like like let's

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Speaker 8: say we had like a like a little bit of notice.

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Speaker 8: You can't slam fuel a reservoir.

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Speaker 1: You can't just like, oh, we gotta go water in there.

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Speaker 7: It's just I guess like people ask questions like, oh,

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Speaker 7: like yeah, so it happened to find out there was

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Speaker 7: water in the reservoir.

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Speaker 8: I don't think it would have made that big of

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Speaker 8: an impact because of the fact that you lost so

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Speaker 8: many homes.

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Speaker 7: Is not enough water, like, oh there's enough water. There

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Speaker 7: isn't a part I have more than a pure I

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Speaker 7: knew because it's like it's a continual thing. But what

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Speaker 7: this like the windsday pretty hard this year.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you weren't.

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Speaker 7: Expecting this obviously. You think it could have helped to

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Speaker 7: the rest water firing.

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Speaker 8: Right, They were also breaking our equipment.

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Speaker 7: I mean yeah, I think everyone's just like, okay, what he.

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Speaker 1: Wants to stop?

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Speaker 5: There?

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Speaker 2: Stop there you what he said, He's playing the firefighters

559
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Speaker 2: for breaking our equipment. He also said, you can't slam

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Speaker 2: fill a reservoir. No kidding, genius. That's why it should

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Speaker 2: stay full and it wouldn't cost it. Did he say

562
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 2: a million dollars to refill it? Now one hundred and

563
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Speaker 2: fifty three, one hundred and forty thousand. I saw as

564
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Speaker 2: an estimate one hundred and thirty thousand somewhere in that range.

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Speaker 2: This is Angel Luna. And again, look how dismissive he is.

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Speaker 2: There's nothing we could do. Nobody could see the winds coming. Yeah,

567
00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 2: the winds were forecast. That's the whole point. On the Thursday,

568
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 2: before the winds were forecasts, stopped lying. All these people

569
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Speaker 2: are lying. They very clearly said how strong the winds

570
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 2: were gonna be and how dangerous it was. You they

571
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 2: all did not do their job, and they're all trying

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Speaker 2: to cover Bass's ass for what and the cavalier nature,

573
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Speaker 2: the sociopathic behavior that I see where oh yeah, I

574
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Speaker 2: guess there's bad you know, bad things happen.

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Speaker 1: What are you gonna do?

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Speaker 2: Nothing we could have done. He claims there was enough water.

577
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Speaker 2: Everybody said there wasn't enough water. Everybody said the fire

578
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 2: hydrants ran dry. The hell is he talking?

579
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Speaker 1: They just make stuff up.

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Speaker 2: They just make any old nonsense up. Play some more

581
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Speaker 2: of this.

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Speaker 7: It's like everybody's just kind of like, yeah, every lie,

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Speaker 7: it doesn't.

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Speaker 1: Is that's it?

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Speaker 2: That was the you know. Another thing, He admitted that

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Speaker 2: he didn't. He didn't take the training that he was

587
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 2: supposed to take. He ignored the mandatory LADWP training for

588
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Speaker 2: the Water Emergency Command Center. It was something that I

589
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Speaker 2: was ignoring. Like earlier this year, he said, he completed

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Speaker 2: his training after the fact, only after the devastation had

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Speaker 2: already hit for the fire. And he was like smiling

592
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 2: and laughing while he was talking about it. They're proud

593
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:38,239
Speaker 2: of their ignorance. They're proud of their lack of preparation.

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Speaker 2: They have all kinds of cheap excuses. Oh, it wouldn't

595
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:46,280
Speaker 2: have mattered anyway, It wouldn't have mattered anyway. In nineteen

596
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Speaker 2: sixty four, they built a one hundred and seventeen million

597
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 2: gallon reservoir because it does matter. We have thousands of

598
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Speaker 2: firefighters because they do matter. We have hundreds of engines

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00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:03,799
Speaker 2: because they do matter. All this matters. And it was

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Speaker 2: about having people in high risk areas in the morning

601
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Speaker 2: hours of the fire and then if you saw a

602
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:14,359
Speaker 2: little puff of smoke somewhere, you quickly run over and

603
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:18,400
Speaker 2: put it out, and that matters. That makes a difference. Otherwise,

604
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Speaker 2: why do you ever have firefighters put any fires out?

605
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 2: They put out tens of thousands of fires every year,

606
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Speaker 2: more than half of them started by homeless and they

607
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 2: always run and put them out, and then well.

608
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Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. Well, why do we even have a

609
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Speaker 1: fire department.

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Speaker 2: Then we have a lot of sant Ana win days

611
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Speaker 2: in the fall and early winter. Most of the time

612
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:50,759
Speaker 2: we don't have fires that ravage a city, but we

613
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,839
Speaker 2: have had one hundred mile an hour winds. I've seen

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Speaker 2: newspaper articles going back to the nineteen thirties on that.

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00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:01,360
Speaker 2: Tom McClintock had some interesting he said in Congress the

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Speaker 2: other day that one of the early explorers coming up

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Speaker 2: the California coast back I think in the fifteen forties,

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00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 2: actually named.

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Speaker 1: The bay.

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Speaker 2: The Bay of Smokes. That's what he called it, but

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Speaker 2: they could give it a Spanish name. It was a

622
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 2: Spanish explorer because of all the smoke that was pouring

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Speaker 2: out of the mountains adjacent to the bay. This is

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Speaker 2: in the fifteen hundreds. This is a normal part of

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Speaker 2: the climate cycle. Now, if you're going to choose to

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Speaker 2: build homes in these regions when that part of the

627
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Speaker 2: climate cycle pops up, you have to have the manpower

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Speaker 2: and the money and the water prepared to dive in

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Speaker 2: immediately and put out any little puff that you find.

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Speaker 1: But you know something I see there.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if these guys, these guys will look

632
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 2: like they're in their twenties, they got government jobs. They

633
00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 2: are really cavalier, oh well, and smug and arrogant. We

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Speaker 2: have a weird clip to play for you later in

635
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Speaker 2: the show of Karen Dass, and this is also from

636
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Speaker 2: James O'Keeffe's operation. It's a phone call she had with

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Speaker 2: with somebody who's anonymous, and she's already explaining in advance.

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00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 2: She's defending her trip to Ghana, and a couple of

639
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:31,760
Speaker 2: times she uses the mysterious phrase read between the lines,

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Speaker 2: and I have no idea what it means. And I've

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Speaker 2: looked to see for an explanation, and nobody's offered one.

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Speaker 2: But it's fascinating a little bit eerie too, because she's

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Speaker 2: whispering as she says it. She's talking about something serious,

644
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 2: and she keeps she keeps insisting, well, it's only two days,

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Speaker 2: two business days. No, that's false. You went at least

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Speaker 2: five days, because a mayor's job is twenty four evan

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Speaker 2: always for obvious reasons. Deborah Mark live in the CAFI

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Speaker 2: twenty four Hour Newsroom. Hey, you've been listening to The

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Speaker 2: John Cobalt Show podcast. You can always hear the show

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Speaker 2: live on KFI Am six forty from one to four

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