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Speaker 1: Cross Country Mortgage Campus in burri Ohisle. I'm Jason Gibbs.

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Speaker 1: This is the best podcast available. Coming up on the

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Speaker 1: program today, Ryan Wilson, CBS Sports, NFL and NFL Draft

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Speaker 1: Analyst will join us just a week and change out

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Speaker 1: from the twenty twenty three NFL Draft. But first and foremost,

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Speaker 1: the players on this two and twenty three Cleveland Browns

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Speaker 1: roster are back in the building. Off season workouts officially

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Speaker 1: begun and we are amping up to the twenty and

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Speaker 1: twenty three season. The guys back in the building, they'll

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Speaker 1: mini camp that first week in June. But first, the

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Speaker 1: NFL Draft and the Browns they don't pick tel pick

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Speaker 1: seventy four as of right now, never know what could

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Speaker 1: happen with this football team. However, a lot of draft

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Speaker 1: They do have two picks in that third round. We

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Speaker 1: talked to Ryan Wilson, CBS Sports NFL Draft Analyst. We

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Speaker 1: talked about the draft in general and obviously the quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: and a lot of interest from Ohio state side of things.

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Speaker 1: With CJ. Stroud, will he be the first player taken

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Speaker 1: talk about the deepest positions in this draft and some

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Speaker 1: other players that you might want to be aware of.

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Speaker 1: Is we get into late on Day two and in

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Speaker 1: to day three, have a watch and have a listen

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Speaker 1: and here on the best podcast available. Happy to be

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Speaker 1: joined as we are every year. It's like an annual

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Speaker 1: tradition with the great Ryan Wilson, CBS Sports NFL Draft

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Speaker 1: Analyst also covers the NFL throughout the season. You can

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Speaker 1: also hear new podcasts this year which I'm a big

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Speaker 1: fan with the First Pick podcast with Rick Spielman doing

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Speaker 1: an outstanding job on that. Ryan and appreciate a few minutes.

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Speaker 1: We're counting it down. We're close, We're close to barbecue

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Speaker 1: It's been a crazy draft season. I feel like, you know,

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Speaker 1: we're not really sure what the quarterback situation is. We

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Speaker 1: that loaded wide receiver class. What do you make of

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's incredibly different. And here's the thing. So a

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Speaker 2: year ago there's only quarterback right that win the first

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Speaker 2: is going to be completely different. And well, last year's

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Speaker 2: be much more exciting because fans care about quarterbacks. Fans

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Speaker 2: order in which these quarterbacks go. And I think that's

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Speaker 2: high does he go? And that's basically me prehaps seing

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Speaker 2: You watch Bryce play, and that's why that's why I

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Speaker 2: We've seen moments overwhelmed quarterbacks. We've seen moments overwhelm Will

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Speaker 1: CBS Sports Multiple Platforms podcast as well with the First

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Speaker 1: those Ohio State guys, Jackson, Smith and Jigba. A lot

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Speaker 2: But in terms of Harrison, sweet mercy again, if someone

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Speaker 2: But he may be there when the Browns eventually get

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Speaker 2: certainly believe that all day long. Paris Johnson Junior thirty

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Speaker 2: I think cornerback is pretty deep. I think that's a

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Speaker 1: All Right, So we talked about wide receiver edge. I know,

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Speaker 1: All right, Final one. Ryan Wilson, we appreciate the time here,

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Speaker 1: CBS Sports, NFL Draft and NFL Analyst. You can follow

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Speaker 1: him on Twitter at Ryan Wilson's CBS Lamar Jackson's situation,

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Speaker 1: the Aaron Rodgers trade to the Jets that we're still

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Speaker 2: know what, let's just get rid of this dude, and

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Speaker 2: get to it. Lamar feels a little more likely to happen,

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Speaker 2: It does feel like Eric, the Ravens, and Lamar will

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Speaker 2: But I don't know what Aaron Rodgers and the Jets

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Speaker 1: Amen to that, Ryan Wilson, appreciate the time. Know you're busy, man.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Jason.

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