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I 27 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:31,680 Speaker 1: will know he's given me advice to many occasions. In 28 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 1: the case you didn't notice, I'm not broke, you know, 29 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:38,759 Speaker 1: he'll be interviewing celebrity CEOs, entrepreneurs and industry decision makers. 30 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:40,759 Speaker 1: It's what he likes to do, it's what he likes 31 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 1: to share. Now it's time to hear from my man, 32 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 1: Rashan McDonald. Money Making Conversations. Here we come. Hello, Welcome 33 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: to Money Making Conversation. That's right, I'm your host, Rushan McDonald. 34 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 1: Each Money Making Conversation talk shows about entrepreneurship and entertainment. 35 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: I recognize that we all have different definitions of success. 36 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 1: For so much a scizeable paycheck, mine is helping other 37 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 1: people wake up and inspiring them to accomplish their goals 38 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:08,360 Speaker 1: and live their very best life. These are my passions 39 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 1: I wanted to share with everybody, and the Money Making 40 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: Conversation interviews provide relatable information to listen to about career 41 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 1: and financial planning, entrepreneurship, motivation, leadership, overcoming the arts, and 42 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: how to live a balanced life. My Next Guest or 43 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:24,799 Speaker 1: my Guest is a graduate of the University of Alabama 44 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 1: with a degree in psychology. She's an actress a singer 45 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 1: who's credits include television, stage and VOS over work. She's 46 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 1: currently starting in one of my favorite series on BT, 47 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 1: Tyler Perry's The Oval, which airs every Wednesday on BT, 48 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:43,799 Speaker 1: Like I stated, and she's also starting in another series 49 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 1: that I've fallen in love. It's a sci fi series 50 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 1: from the d C universe called d C Stargirl, which 51 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 1: airs every Tuesday on the c W. Please welcome to 52 00:02:52,080 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: Money Making Conversation Karen More. Hello, thank you, yes, great, 53 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for having me. First of all, 54 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: thank you for taking the time to call him out. 55 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 1: You know, when you watch a character, Let's let's go 56 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 1: back to the very first episode. Okay, in a fight, 57 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 1: got gott take a breathta take here, gotta take breath here, 58 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 1: let's more, I gotta take bro, you know, drag out 59 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 1: physical fight with the President of the United States. Let's 60 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:29,119 Speaker 1: hold that thought. Hold that thought. Then let's go back 61 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:32,959 Speaker 1: to you getting the script, okay from Tyler Perry, who 62 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: all knows a genius. Let's go and admit that publicly. 63 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 1: If you don't know what I'm telling you, he's a genius. 64 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 1: What were your thoughts, you know, President, you know Michelle 65 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 1: Obama coming out of the White House and you playing 66 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 1: this over exaggerated character of an African American female entering 67 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 1: the White House in a dramatic series. What were your thoughts? 68 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 1: When I first got the side for the audition, I 69 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 1: was is horrified because I thought to myself, how could 70 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 1: I possibly I'm an actress and I'm just like, I 71 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 1: don't know how I can pull this off. This character 72 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 1: is so opposite my personality. I'm just like, Wow, what 73 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:19,039 Speaker 1: what do I have or what can I pull from 74 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 1: to bring this character to life? Um, And so I 75 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: thought at the challenge and uh, in that first chool, 76 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:31,919 Speaker 1: I didn't know how the audience would really stun but 77 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:34,599 Speaker 1: it was shocked. Value. I mean, that's the first scene 78 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: of the series and what like what like a casual 79 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 1: slap slap no, no, no, this was a knockdown, drag 80 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:52,159 Speaker 1: drag out beat down like the entire hotel room. And 81 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 1: um yeah I was. I was afraid going into it. 82 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 1: But once we started rolling, oh my gosh, we had 83 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 1: so much fun. Okay, now now you said this is 84 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 1: this character is not like your personality? What is your personality? 85 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:10,160 Speaker 1: It's more honestly, I've always been py um. So I 86 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 1: think I've come out of my sinus a little bit book, 87 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 1: but I'm kind of an introvert. Um. I will say 88 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 1: that the character is strong, and I think I have 89 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 1: a strong I have strong views, and I have a 90 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 1: strong personality. But I am yes, but I'm not. I'm 91 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:36,479 Speaker 1: not overt like so I'm not over and over selfish, Uh, domineering, Uh, sexist, uh, 92 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:42,159 Speaker 1: child abuser uh liar Uh going and going a dressing 93 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: shop and beat the heck out of your husband's mistress, uh, 94 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 1: taste your daughter. Uh come on now, it's a lot 95 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:55,040 Speaker 1: of qualities issue. Yeah, yeah, you know, I'm Benny the 96 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 1: best things in my real life. I want people and 97 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 1: you know they're just like you. It doesn't um come caring. Now, 98 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 1: here's the funny thing about it is that we're gonna 99 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: have a good time with it. Were already having a 100 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 1: good time. I'm talking to one of the stars of 101 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 1: the Oval. She plays uh the first League first lay Lady. 102 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 1: Victoria's the name correct that word lading. Her husband's name 103 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 1: is Hunter. Now, as the story as the series evolved, 104 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 1: you know, you're starting to get a little bit the 105 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:31,279 Speaker 1: pieces about the background of your family and how he 106 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 1: got there. But let's go to the beginning of the 107 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:36,359 Speaker 1: series here, because first of all, you want to say, Rashan, 108 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:39,840 Speaker 1: how successful this has. Has the reaction to this series 109 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 1: been okay? First of all, it's been renewed for a 110 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:44,840 Speaker 1: second season, which we all know in the acting game 111 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:48,600 Speaker 1: is a blessing. Come on that because you started like 112 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 1: preparing life a little bit okay, you know, because people 113 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 1: don't the stand and you're in the acting game. It's 114 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 1: like it's almost like check to check. You can't you 115 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 1: can't buy a car, you might not make the notes 116 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:03,599 Speaker 1: because you don't know if you're gonna get a job. 117 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:07,159 Speaker 1: It's really came about how it really starts. You really 118 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 1: have to be a person that's really patient and also 119 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 1: and just really just have strong faith and also have 120 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 1: a good, good people around you that a support system. Now, 121 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 1: the original series has been a hit for b et. 122 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 1: We're talking about The Oval some highlights. Is now in 123 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 1: the first half of this debate season number one new 124 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:30,679 Speaker 1: scripted series on cable for all audiences eighteen to forty nine, 125 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 1: Number one in both broadcasting cable for African Americans eighteen 126 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 1: the forty nine, which is an incredible number cover number. Now, 127 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: you know, when the series came out, I didn't know. 128 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 1: I wasn't watching it in the beginning. So I had 129 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 1: to bend drop because people couldshan because they always know 130 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: I like watch. I watched a lot that would tell 131 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 1: me how do you manage to watch some of TV 132 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 1: and read some of the books When I get a 133 00:07:56,600 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: good series like this though, that's that every every episode 134 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 1: is like really really, So I'm a back off a 135 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: little bit. Here, tell us about just let's let's tell 136 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 1: about tell about tell everybody about the family dynamics of 137 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 1: the Oval Office. If you miss anything, I'm I'm a Phelian. Okay, okay, okay, okay. Well, 138 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 1: the Oval overall is it's people like to compare it 139 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 1: to just Initially they like to compare it to Scandal, 140 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 1: but it is that it isn't a political sell. Oh no, 141 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 1: it's not political. Oh no, it's not not at all. 142 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 1: No about it's all about relationships and the drama within. 143 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 1: So it addresses the upstairs, downstairs thing that goes on 144 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 1: in the White House where you have the first family, 145 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 1: and we pulled back the curtain on this family who's 146 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 1: been placed in the White House by the powers that be, 147 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:55,559 Speaker 1: and all of their dysfunction is completely uncovered. And then 148 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 1: we find the White House staff home and they have 149 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 1: a whole other at a drama while dealing with the 150 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 1: drama in the White House, which is a lot to 151 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:07,439 Speaker 1: handle for anybody at work. And then they go home 152 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 1: and deal with their own personal things. So there's drama 153 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 1: on both sides of it. Now she's left out so 154 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 1: much good stuff. Okay, the daughter, the daughter who was 155 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 1: sleeping with the drug dealer, right, and then your boy 156 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: good please described everybody. What is what? What is your 157 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 1: son Jason? What is his character? What? What is he? 158 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:32,319 Speaker 1: He could keep hopping he's a pervert in the series, 159 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 1: what what what? What? What is it? I've heard that 160 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 1: word throwing out a lot in the series. He's a pervert. 161 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 1: He's a pervert. What exactly is Jason's character in The Oval. Okay, Jason, 162 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 1: who has played by Daniel Corey Henderson, and he's like 163 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:49,080 Speaker 1: a wonderful actor. He's nothing like this. By the way, 164 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 1: he is nick he's saying naked most of the time 165 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: in the series. By the way, y'all just let y'all 166 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 1: know about that, he's all the way naked. He's naked 167 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 1: and most and he's disturbed. But here's this thing about 168 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:08,680 Speaker 1: the kids. Um, people don't understand. They hate They don't 169 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:11,839 Speaker 1: hate me, they hate me and and they kind of 170 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:15,319 Speaker 1: hate Hunter too. Because what we've done is we brought 171 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 1: them through the Mayor's office, as govern his office and 172 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 1: now the White House. So these children have been brought 173 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 1: up in a bubble and have had their lives, you know, 174 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 1: under a microscope, and so protected from a normal life 175 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 1: that they act out in ways that's probably other other 176 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 1: children wouldn't, but they asked out. Um, they act all 177 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 1: the way out, all the way. So they're they're just 178 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 1: they're yeah, they're disturbing. Jason is in him, He's got 179 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 1: a lot of he's got a lot of issues that 180 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 1: will be uncovered as the season goes. Um, I don't 181 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:52,319 Speaker 1: want to get too much away. There were there were 182 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 1: more what we're gonna talk about, we'll cover enough to 183 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:57,680 Speaker 1: make you want to watch the rest of the seas 184 00:10:57,720 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 1: Like I just tell you number one. Note you number 185 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 1: one for a reach and not eighteen fortnight because you 186 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 1: got your boy, your boy and seen it at all. Now, 187 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 1: see this is see the great thing about the lady 188 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 1: Victoria character, which is the first lady, and then Hunter 189 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:15,439 Speaker 1: he's the president. Then Jason and Sophia they're they're their kids, 190 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:19,560 Speaker 1: outrageous kids. Then, like she said, it's more even juicier 191 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 1: storylines when you get to poll Nancy, Richard and crazy Barry. 192 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 1: Crazy Barry does he have emotional Barry is the son 193 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 1: of Nancy and Richard, and he came by the White 194 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 1: House one day to help out, and all hell broke 195 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 1: loose because he got in the room with Sophia, and 196 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 1: Sophia says something later on Gail Gail, Yeah, it was 197 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 1: girl like Paola. Gail and Jason correct so many series 198 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 1: in my head, Gail and Jason are the character. They 199 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 1: are your children. So Gail got in the room with Barry, 200 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 1: and then she made the story by Barry, and then 201 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 1: it just calls j Richard to lose his job, and 202 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 1: but the storyline didn't stop after that. These story lines 203 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 1: are just so so outrageously juicy that they make you 204 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 1: want to see more. Correct they are they are, and 205 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 1: they're so so twisted and intertwined. It's it's really interesting 206 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 1: to see them unsold and see how the White House 207 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 1: staff and their families um are a part of the 208 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:25,839 Speaker 1: actual family of the White the first family. It's really 209 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:28,839 Speaker 1: interesting to see how they're connected and in ways that 210 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:32,559 Speaker 1: you wouldn't think they would be. But yeah, my daughter Gail, yes, 211 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 1: she had a relationship. Her boyfriend was a drug dealer, 212 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 1: is the cousin of Barry, who was the son of 213 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 1: our butler, who was fired because Gail accused him of 214 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 1: rape when he was, like you said, helping out. And 215 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 1: then you had the Then you then you had to 216 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:58,439 Speaker 1: change your dought. I had to. Lady Victoria had went 217 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:01,319 Speaker 1: as far as she can go, but she tasted the 218 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 1: daughter to see if it worked. That's what That's what 219 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:05,440 Speaker 1: I loved about. You taste your daughter to see if 220 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 1: it could work. And then but that's your story. Now, 221 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 1: if you got some extra juice, what you left out, 222 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 1: what you left out before before Victoria tastes sale, Gail 223 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 1: jumped from the moving car on the way to these 224 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:29,319 Speaker 1: and when we got to the White House, Yeah, found 225 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:32,679 Speaker 1: it necessary that. Oh my good. You know we were 226 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:35,560 Speaker 1: about to break here and we haven't gotten to yet too, 227 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 1: d C Star Girl, I want to get to that. 228 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:39,679 Speaker 1: It's a couple of more questions I got to ask 229 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 1: you the next break because it's just can I say congratulations? 230 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 1: You want an amazingly entertaining, juicy soap operative soap opera 231 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 1: format that uh, it is funny, is sexy, is over 232 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 1: the top? And your character, like I said, you know 233 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:00,680 Speaker 1: when you made a pass it poor Sam, he didn't 234 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 1: know what to do. That's about the third guy in 235 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 1: this series. You made a really strong pass up. The 236 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 1: little white guy turned you down earlier in the season. 237 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 1: You're just a but but then but then you always 238 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 1: making like you were really talking to them, just kind 239 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 1: of talking past. But I want to wrap up a 240 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 1: few more questions about the oval uh uh Salmon Priscilla character. 241 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 1: You know, Sam, he worked security at the d C 242 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 1: h at the White House and you made a pass 243 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 1: in him, or that they seemed to be the most 244 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 1: stable characters on the show. Unless unless I missed something. 245 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 1: I usually called every episode. But Sam and Priscilla seemed 246 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 1: to be the most stable characters on the show. I 247 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 1: thought Nancy and Richard was, but they both of them 248 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 1: crazy too. But what about Sam and Priscilla? Sam, and 249 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 1: I would venture to say that they do have the 250 00:14:55,960 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 1: most stable relationship so far. They have the most stareful 251 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 1: relationship thus far, you know, but there is a whole mess, 252 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 1: and she has a way of working her way into 253 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 1: people's lives and causing causing trouble. Yes, okay, now let's 254 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 1: here's an interesting backstory, because I finally at your grandmother, okay, 255 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 1: and it seems to me that your family, your family 256 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 1: in particular, okay, sent your way. You know, they got money, okay, 257 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 1: and they got influence, and so, like Hunter said, you know, 258 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 1: they shocked me when I became mayor. Then they shocked 259 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 1: me when I became governor. And now I am the 260 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 1: President of the United States. And I don't I didn't 261 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 1: ask for any of this, And so what what what 262 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 1: what was your role in all of this? Your characters role? 263 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 1: Were you along for the ride or you just afraid 264 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 1: to make a uh say no because of who your 265 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 1: parents were you know a little bit of both, because 266 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 1: Victoria is about the business of money, right, but she 267 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 1: had she had a sumultuous childhood where her her her family. 268 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 1: She felt as though her family didn't love her. She 269 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 1: was a blessing of the family, and there is pun 270 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 1: intended there. Um and her her parents are they're they're powerful. 271 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 1: They're one of the top five families in the country. 272 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 1: They run the country. So they sent her away when 273 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 1: she was a child, and Um, she's always felt like 274 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 1: she was under their control, but she never felt their acceptance. 275 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 1: So in trying to trying to be accepted by her family, 276 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 1: she's left herself onto this man who they found to 277 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 1: be Um kind of like a catalyst, you know, to 278 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 1: to to place their influence into the White House and 279 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 1: and and its apologies and procedures. And so Victoria is 280 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 1: along for that ride, but she's really trying to get 281 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 1: off the roller coaster, you know, honestly, she she she's 282 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 1: done everything that she can and now it's she wants 283 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 1: his money and she wants out. You want to talk, 284 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 1: but then you have then you have Donald's character and 285 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 1: Coyle's character their lovers. Okay, but it seems to me 286 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 1: now they've been with you guys a long time, because 287 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 1: the storylines seem to talk about they know about the family, 288 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:18,159 Speaker 1: your family, and they know what they can do. So 289 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 1: give me a little backstory on them, if you can. 290 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 1: Just being nosy now and just being nosy, Well, their 291 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:29,120 Speaker 1: story is currently unfolding. So um yeah, so so Donald, 292 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:32,160 Speaker 1: I don't know how unfolding. It could be the man 293 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:36,679 Speaker 1: with naked in his bed, buck naked in his and 294 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 1: then I got to see you got to see the 295 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 1: brother got to see his butt in the hotel room. Okay, 296 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 1: when when Lily showed up and told the girl that 297 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:47,880 Speaker 1: told the girl to get the heck out? Okay, so so, 298 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:53,920 Speaker 1: but but I digress. I digress later, Victoria, please continue. 299 00:17:55,800 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 1: So she's from Staff and he has been a White 300 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 1: House namestaate, but he's relatively new too, um Hunter's wife. 301 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:10,639 Speaker 1: But what Hunter doesn't know is that Donald is somehow 302 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:12,920 Speaker 1: connected to one of these five families. I can't say 303 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:15,360 Speaker 1: whether it's you know, our family or not, but he's 304 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 1: connected to one of these thy family who's puppeteering, you know, 305 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 1: the people in the White House. And so he's got 306 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:23,640 Speaker 1: to stay in line. That's why he needs to stay 307 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 1: Mary to Lily for the optics of it. But he 308 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:30,920 Speaker 1: has Kyle as his look right right that that that 309 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:35,200 Speaker 1: that that was previous lovers. Then the Kyle cheated on him, Okay, 310 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:38,679 Speaker 1: then they broke up. And then when he broke up, 311 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:41,200 Speaker 1: that's when she found found Lily from watchs She's from 312 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 1: watch the Community or don't know? She said, boy, you 313 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 1: do watch this series, don't you? And and so, but 314 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 1: I got to go back to the biggest food in 315 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 1: the show. I got to go back to before we 316 00:18:53,080 --> 00:19:00,360 Speaker 1: move on Barry. Oh god, Okay, before I go to Barry, 317 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 1: I want to just compliment Tyler Perry on this sets 318 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 1: in this series. I have not been to his campound. 319 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 1: I'm based in Atlanta, but the sets you're based here, Yes, 320 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:16,119 Speaker 1: the sets are amazing. The sets are amazing. Listen. What 321 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:18,920 Speaker 1: he did was he built a white house almost to 322 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:21,399 Speaker 1: scale on his campus. It only took a couple of 323 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 1: months to do. We watched it be erected as we 324 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:29,159 Speaker 1: were preparing for the show, and it is amazing. As 325 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 1: an understatement, whenever everything calms down and we're going to 326 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:35,119 Speaker 1: get back to normal, I encourage you to come to 327 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:40,200 Speaker 1: the campus and tour it. It is phenomenal. I'm looking 328 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 1: at it. You know, I've been fortunate. Guy. I was 329 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 1: in the Oval Office, I met President Obama, so I 330 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:48,640 Speaker 1: know walking down that hallway, I know, going in that room, 331 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 1: I know exactly. You know how this stuff lays out. 332 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 1: I want. They gave me a complete tour of the 333 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 1: White House. So when I'm going room, when you guys 334 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:57,199 Speaker 1: are going room in the room and going that's a 335 00:19:57,200 --> 00:20:00,359 Speaker 1: authentic That's what authentic. That's legitimate because you was like, 336 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:02,359 Speaker 1: once you go on something you know you're only gonna 337 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 1: adventure into once in your lifetime. You kind of like 338 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 1: making snapshots so you can remember the experience because they 339 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 1: won't let you take photos. They won't let you take photos, 340 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 1: and so the photos they take of you, as a 341 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 1: professional photo photographer didn't have to screen the photos, and 342 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 1: they eventually was sending the photos to you are the 343 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 1: ones they took of you, taking taking of you while 344 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:23,440 Speaker 1: you were at the White House. But when I when 345 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:27,159 Speaker 1: I look at Barry's character, another over the top character, 346 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:31,119 Speaker 1: that's funny and uh that that that that can you 347 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 1: explain to me? How could we say stupider or dumber 348 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 1: or how many bad decisions can you make? In one season. 349 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 1: Let's just say poor decisions. But he was he started 350 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 1: off at this advantage because this poor child was auge 351 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:52,400 Speaker 1: over rage. Okay, and he didn't do it. But then 352 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 1: you know, he used to be involved with this, uh, 353 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:59,680 Speaker 1: this woman who's going to call and they had a 354 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 1: child together. She comes in with her cult members and 355 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:06,120 Speaker 1: kidnaps his kid, and so he's looking for his kid 356 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:09,439 Speaker 1: and he goes into you know, neighborhood shouldn't be at 357 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:14,159 Speaker 1: a part of Oh my god, and we forgot that. 358 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 1: I forgot the fact that the Gail got you know, 359 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 1: got taken around the corner about five dudes. I forgot 360 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 1: about that little storyline you know that was you know, 361 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:30,120 Speaker 1: Gail snuck out of that white house to be with 362 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:35,160 Speaker 1: her dealer boyfriend and in the in the course of it, yeah, 363 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 1: he was almost read by some gang members and Sir 364 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:41,440 Speaker 1: Richard happened to be in the area and picked her up. 365 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 1: And it's a whole drummer. But but you know, before 366 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:49,920 Speaker 1: I move on to d C Star Girl, Bobby, Now, 367 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 1: what is Bobby is he comes some kind under He 368 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:58,199 Speaker 1: plays like he hasn't he knows some people who are 369 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 1: trying to get dirt on some more dirt. What is 370 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:04,359 Speaker 1: Bobby's roll? I know he's having an affair with Lily, 371 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 1: and Lily you know she went to him at the 372 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:18,120 Speaker 1: that the Big John in with the I got God, 373 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:26,360 Speaker 1: this story's crappy. Oh my gosh, core Bobby, Bobby, Bobby, 374 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:29,719 Speaker 1: he was an insider at one point, and it's not 375 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 1: been real, Lady Victoria, a sexy insider because I've yet 376 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 1: to see him with his clothes on. Uh, the scene 377 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 1: may start with his clothes on, but the brother gonna 378 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 1: be out of his clothes really quick in that scene. 379 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:51,119 Speaker 1: You know that, right. I know his tattoos, I know 380 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 1: the dimples in his but I know the muscles on 381 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 1: his shoulder. I could count the lot apps on his stomach. 382 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 1: The little and this man don't keep his clothes on 383 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 1: long at all. It makes me feel really bad when 384 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 1: I watching him though he looks. Don't feel about listed. 385 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:08,359 Speaker 1: I mean, it's to have a body like that a 386 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 1: lot like Why finished with your description of this fool, Bobby. 387 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 1: I just had a break in and just tell y'all 388 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:21,119 Speaker 1: what I see. No, Bob. Yeah, Bobby is definitely the 389 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:27,360 Speaker 1: sexual chocolate of the show, and he really was. Yeah, 390 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:31,680 Speaker 1: he's an insider, and he hadn't yet revealed it's exactly 391 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:34,479 Speaker 1: his relationship. But he's an insider, and he knows a 392 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:36,679 Speaker 1: lot about what's going on in the White House and 393 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 1: a lot about the family that's controlling what's going on 394 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:41,360 Speaker 1: in the White House, and so he's trying to tell 395 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:45,880 Speaker 1: really literally you and danger Girl. So's he's he's let's 396 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:49,680 Speaker 1: have sex first. Let's let's get Yeah, let's get let's 397 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 1: get down first, and then I need you to go 398 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 1: back to take sure of the business. Right, Oh my god, 399 00:23:56,560 --> 00:24:00,159 Speaker 1: Oh my god. Okay, cool, um, let's go on to 400 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:03,159 Speaker 1: this next fantasticist. Because you know TV every Wednesday and 401 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 1: your TV which is on the b Et every Wednesday 402 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 1: with the Oval, now every Tuesday, we can catch you 403 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:13,399 Speaker 1: on an exciting new sci fi series called DC star Girl, 404 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 1: and you play an extremely different character. You're a doctor 405 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:23,119 Speaker 1: little nerd ish type doctor ish uh, the daughter to 406 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 1: one of the characters I believe that's eventually going to 407 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,920 Speaker 1: become one of her sidekicks. I'm talking about Stargirls sidekick. 408 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 1: Tell us about that character and the opportunity it brings 409 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 1: to just show your acting range. Well, HC Star Girl, 410 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 1: like like you said, I play a character. Her name 411 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 1: is Dr Chapel, and she is she's a medical doctor, 412 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 1: and she's brilliant and she is a completely buttoned up nerd, 413 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 1: that's what she is. And um, she's unaware of what's 414 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 1: about to unfold in her daughter's life. But yeah, her daughter, 415 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:57,920 Speaker 1: it's Sandersville. But well we'll find out this come this Tuesday, 416 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 1: what happens. But she may be one of the recruits, 417 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 1: um star girl, to join the the new Justice League. 418 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:14,160 Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, it's fun playing her. She's completely opposite Victoria. Um, 419 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:18,160 Speaker 1: she's still intelligent and polished, but on the complete opposite 420 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 1: end of the spectrum. You know, her hair is natural, 421 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:25,160 Speaker 1: you know, she's understated, buttoned up. It's fun. Well, it's 422 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 1: first of all, your your life that you're living right now. 423 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:32,679 Speaker 1: Congratulations on the Oval on bt B renewed for a 424 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 1: second season. Congratulate because we know what that's a blessing. 425 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 1: And then to be on television in a totally opposite 426 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:41,639 Speaker 1: role in the mainstream show, that's what Starker this is. 427 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:45,359 Speaker 1: Stark is a mainstream show. And and then and may 428 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 1: be accepted in that role and having fun at and 429 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 1: being nerdy ish and being able to look authentic in 430 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,159 Speaker 1: that in that role, and I was, you know, it 431 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 1: was kind of you know, because I was I watched 432 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 1: a series and so I was kind of like, oh, 433 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:00,200 Speaker 1: I wish I could interview her right after two because 434 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,679 Speaker 1: that would be more juicy stuff to talk about. But really, 435 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 1: but really, this Oval, I took up the whole show. 436 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 1: That's how amazing that is. So that what that means 437 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:10,879 Speaker 1: is that you gotta come back on my show if 438 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 1: you don't mind. I really loved interviews. You're funny, you're entertaining, 439 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 1: you're beautiful, you're smart. Uh, please don't stop being you 440 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 1: and uh again, I can't wait till the season finale. 441 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:25,639 Speaker 1: But I'm just dropped this little dam on you because 442 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 1: everybody keeps saying there's an insider, there's an inside somebody, 443 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 1: there's a leak in the White House. There's a leak 444 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:33,159 Speaker 1: in the White House. You know who I think it is? 445 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 1: Who do you think, Jason? You think it's yes, m Well, 446 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 1: let's keep well, we'll see stay tuned and every Wednesday, 447 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 1: The Oval, starring Lady Victoria and Hunter as the two 448 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:56,400 Speaker 1: dashing members of the White House who it's not about 449 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 1: changing America, it's about holding that white house together because 450 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 1: it's exploding with sex, passion, evil, double crossing, backstabbing, murder. 451 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,400 Speaker 1: That's the Oval on b ET every Wednesday, and don't 452 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:14,120 Speaker 1: we get You can see this nice, charming, smart, brilliant 453 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 1: young lady on Tuesday's o DC start you out on 454 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 1: the c W. 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That's O T T 490 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 1: E R dot Ai. My next guests left Wall Street 491 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 1: to keep up with the demand of a company where 492 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 1: she is the founder and CEO of The lip Bar, 493 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,800 Speaker 1: a vegan beauty brand that exists to disrupt an outdated 494 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 1: beauty care industry. Please welcome to money making Conversation. The 495 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 1: CEO of the lip Bar, Melissa Butler. Thank you so 496 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 1: much for having me. That was such a warm intro 497 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:49,959 Speaker 1: that we're warm, but but you're in Detroit, right Betray 498 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:55,720 Speaker 1: the weather up there in Detroit. It's finally gotten nicer. 499 00:29:56,200 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 1: Crazy may may A may A was snowing. I gotta 500 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 1: get out of here, That's what I'm asking you'll. You 501 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 1: know I lived. I was like, I'm in the wrong place. Well, 502 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 1: first of all, used in New York doing working at 503 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 1: Wall Street. Correct, when I graduated, Yeah, I went to college. 504 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 1: I went to college at fam you a Ka, Florida 505 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 1: and m Universal when I was there exactly exactly, And 506 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 1: so I studied business finance. And I decided that in 507 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 1: college that if you're going to do finance, that you know, 508 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 1: there's no better place to do it than than in 509 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 1: New York. So I moved to New York. Was working 510 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:47,880 Speaker 1: on Wall Street for about four years excuse me, and 511 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 1: the year too I quit my job. I quit my 512 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 1: job to focus on the lip bar Um, this cosmetic 513 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:59,480 Speaker 1: company that I just felt super inspired and empowered to 514 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 1: start because I wanted to stop complaining about the industry 515 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:07,960 Speaker 1: and instead of be the changes, we just stop complaining 516 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 1: about an industry. What do you mean? What what were 517 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 1: the complaints about the industry? So yeah, I started the 518 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 1: lit bar because I was completely frustrated with the beauty industry. 519 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 1: I hated it's lack of diversity, its excessive amounts the chemicals, um, 520 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:27,040 Speaker 1: just this idea that that beauty looks like one particular 521 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 1: thing and like in one way. So I found, you know, 522 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 1: of a country full of women black and white that 523 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 1: was trying to fit into this very small beauty box 524 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 1: of like what's considered socially and societally accepted as beautiful. 525 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 1: And I was like, no, like, why are we all 526 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 1: trying to conform to be something that we're not in 527 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 1: terms of like that that beauty image. And it's like 528 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 1: I felt like we had been taught that you can 529 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 1: only be one thing in order to be beautiful. And 530 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 1: it's always been then my my understanding that everyone has baby, 531 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 1: you know, and everyone is beautiful. But the conditioning of 532 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 1: the media and the beauty companies, you know, it consistently 533 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 1: told this story in this linear LFE and so that 534 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 1: was my frustration. I hated that people were made to 535 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,200 Speaker 1: feel like they were not enough, and so I decided 536 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:23,239 Speaker 1: to create the lip far to remind women that they 537 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 1: don't have to transform and be beautiful. They're already beautiful. Okay, 538 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 1: now you degree was it? What? Now? Business finance? Okay, 539 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 1: business finance. And so I'm just reading your bio, so 540 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 1: you will created the formula or you mixed it, or 541 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 1: you made the brand or the lip bar in your 542 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 1: Brooklyn kitchen. To my understand that I've read that wrong. Yeah, 543 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 1: you know, you read it right. So I did not 544 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 1: have experience in the chemistry. I was working on Wall Street, 545 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:59,480 Speaker 1: like looking at stocks and bombs and still spreadsheets all day. Um, 546 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,480 Speaker 1: but that's what happens when you when you're operating in 547 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 1: purpose and you're operating with determination. Like no, I didn't 548 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,080 Speaker 1: know how to make lipstick, but I did everything in 549 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 1: my power to learn and I'm not going to say 550 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 1: it was easy. It took probably a thousand batches of lipstick, 551 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 1: you know, me making these products before I got to 552 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 1: a good one. It was a story of resilience, and 553 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 1: I think that's largely the lit Bar story. Now, the 554 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 1: real product is a vegan product. Correct. Every single thing 555 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 1: that we make is vegan and cruelty free. So that 556 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:31,960 Speaker 1: means that we don't use any animal products, we don't 557 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,200 Speaker 1: test on animals, and we try to be as natural 558 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:38,800 Speaker 1: as possible without compromising the products. The brain what you're 559 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 1: saying that you do, which is really important now, you know, 560 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 1: I love your energy. First of all, um, I have 561 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:48,160 Speaker 1: a newsletter there I had set out every Friday nine am. 562 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 1: And a good friend of mine I found out about you, 563 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 1: was and Simbowski Ward, she's the CEO of Yes. She 564 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,320 Speaker 1: she texts me said, Shan, you got to put it 565 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:06,480 Speaker 1: on your show. Who Melissa lip Bar. She's really good 566 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 1: because you know she lives in Detroit and she lives 567 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:11,719 Speaker 1: in Minnesota, and so that's how I found out about you. 568 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,280 Speaker 1: Then I then every Tuesday I meet with my staff 569 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:17,880 Speaker 1: and I said, uh, I've been recommended to interview a 570 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,000 Speaker 1: young lady by the name of Melissa Butler as she 571 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:21,839 Speaker 1: owns the lip Bar. And then my staff go, we've 572 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 1: already contacted her, so you're already on their radar. My 573 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 1: staff's radar people that I should bring on my show 574 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 1: is entrepreneurs. So the blessings are is that a good 575 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:40,319 Speaker 1: friend of mine who was or I loved the death 576 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:43,880 Speaker 1: and she's a fantastic smart person, and you know, a 577 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 1: good person to recommended you. And then my staff already 578 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:50,040 Speaker 1: was greater to book you. So with that being I 579 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:53,759 Speaker 1: love and to death, I love that woman. She has 580 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:58,120 Speaker 1: been so hopeful in my journey. She she called your 581 00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 1: boy right now, told me that this as a person 582 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 1: I should have on the show because you're a blessing. 583 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 1: You're gifted. And that's what I do on money making conversations, 584 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:09,040 Speaker 1: I bring brands in and I use my brand free charge. 585 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:10,440 Speaker 1: I'm not here to try to make money. I'm just 586 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:13,239 Speaker 1: trying to give a platform to entrepreneurs that they can 587 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,520 Speaker 1: talk to tell their story when no no, when no 588 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 1: hidden agendas. It's about so the nuggets that you share 589 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 1: on my show, hopefully other people hear it and go wow, 590 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:25,480 Speaker 1: I can do it too. That's what this shows about. 591 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,799 Speaker 1: Motivating people believe that they can do it too. Like 592 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:32,640 Speaker 1: my degree. Just a little quick backstory, very short backstory. 593 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:36,040 Speaker 1: My degree is in mathematics and computer and sociology. That's 594 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:37,840 Speaker 1: my degree. I got into mathematics, and I went to 595 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 1: work for IBM and left IBM to pursue a career 596 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,280 Speaker 1: as a stand up comedian and became a sitcom writer 597 00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:47,040 Speaker 1: and managed talent and marketing, branding gurgle for Fortune five 598 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:51,600 Speaker 1: companies and producing television shows and film. That's my background. Okay, 599 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:53,400 Speaker 1: but I didn't start out like that. I was a 600 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:55,919 Speaker 1: math My degree is a mathematic Just like you said, 601 00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,760 Speaker 1: you know your your degree wasn't in chemistry. That didn't 602 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:01,680 Speaker 1: stop you. So with that, I said, I'm trying to 603 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:03,759 Speaker 1: because but that's a that's a big swing. I just 604 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:07,000 Speaker 1: went from telling from mathematic to telling jokes. That wasn't 605 00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:10,839 Speaker 1: that big of a jump. I just I just got 606 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:14,479 Speaker 1: your jump is huge. Here. I'm I'm trying to figure 607 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:17,600 Speaker 1: out how confident did you have to be? So could 608 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,120 Speaker 1: you walk me through the steps? Not trying to reveal anything, 609 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:24,440 Speaker 1: but that's pretty impressive, miss Butler. The fact that you 610 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:27,479 Speaker 1: were confident enough, and I'm sure you were the guinea pig, 611 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,560 Speaker 1: of your of all your stuff, maybe some close friends 612 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:32,319 Speaker 1: and things like that. Once you got going there a 613 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,360 Speaker 1: little bit because you wanted to try it on different 614 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,600 Speaker 1: skin tones and different skin textures and things like that. 615 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,560 Speaker 1: So when you thought of just talking about the time 616 00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:42,680 Speaker 1: that you said, Okay, I want to do this, what 617 00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:46,600 Speaker 1: did other people say to you? Oh? I mean, people 618 00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:49,720 Speaker 1: thought I was crazy. My mom thought I was crazy. 619 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:53,160 Speaker 1: My mom was like, oh, wait, you're quitting your job 620 00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:57,120 Speaker 1: because and two years in, I quit my job not 621 00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,440 Speaker 1: because I was making a ton of money, but because 622 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:01,440 Speaker 1: I really believed in what I was doing, and I 623 00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:04,200 Speaker 1: knew that what I was doing could be powerful and 624 00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:08,080 Speaker 1: could really impact to women across the country. Um So 625 00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:11,120 Speaker 1: when I quit my job, I wasn't even replacing my salary. 626 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,840 Speaker 1: I wasn't even gonna be able to pay myself a salary. 627 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,719 Speaker 1: But I knew that that was the risk that I 628 00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:18,799 Speaker 1: was willing to take it because I knew that I 629 00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:22,040 Speaker 1: didn't have any other real responsibility. So for me, it 630 00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:25,640 Speaker 1: was more so like I would rather risk it all 631 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:28,840 Speaker 1: and and either fall flat on my face or regret 632 00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:32,200 Speaker 1: not going after it. And so that was a decision 633 00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:35,319 Speaker 1: that I had to make and yeah, you're right, like 634 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,960 Speaker 1: you have to have some level of confidence. But at 635 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:40,759 Speaker 1: the end of the day, I didn't know what I 636 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:44,080 Speaker 1: was doing. I had no idea what I was doing 637 00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:47,399 Speaker 1: or you know, how big or how small it could get. 638 00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,960 Speaker 1: But I knew that what I was doing was important. 639 00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,879 Speaker 1: So you know, for all business owners, they they told 640 00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,279 Speaker 1: you to make sure you're starting with a problem, right. 641 00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,360 Speaker 1: So I very clearly knew that there was a problem 642 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:01,360 Speaker 1: within the in the street. And I was like, you 643 00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:03,959 Speaker 1: know what, I don't know. I don't know how this works. 644 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,439 Speaker 1: I don't know anything about the beauty industry. I don't 645 00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:09,680 Speaker 1: know anything about manufacturing. But I'm going to try because 646 00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:12,160 Speaker 1: I think this is a problem that's worth solving, and 647 00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:14,919 Speaker 1: you are and obviously people are reacted to it. Here's 648 00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,000 Speaker 1: there's something funny. I'm just let you know. I have 649 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,759 Speaker 1: a newsletter that goes out every Friday at nine am, 650 00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:23,960 Speaker 1: goes out like to ninety thousand subscribers and so on. 651 00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:27,000 Speaker 1: And I told mar my staff, I said, trump one 652 00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:31,440 Speaker 1: of her and you know, one of your ads, uh 653 00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:34,319 Speaker 1: banners in there with the link and everything. It was 654 00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:40,359 Speaker 1: the most clicked link in my newsletter two weeks ago. 655 00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:43,640 Speaker 1: That's how popular your brand is it? And I always 656 00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:46,520 Speaker 1: tell people, you know, wow, it was the most click link. 657 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,279 Speaker 1: It was like it was crazy because you know, I 658 00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:51,759 Speaker 1: said it out on Fridays and on Mondays meet with 659 00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:53,960 Speaker 1: the staff and I go at eight am when I 660 00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,319 Speaker 1: go zoom because when the pandemic time. And I go, 661 00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:58,920 Speaker 1: They said, what, what's trying to give us a update 662 00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:02,279 Speaker 1: on newsletter? I said, all the most clicked link in 663 00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:07,880 Speaker 1: the newsletter was the lip box. And and you know 664 00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:09,920 Speaker 1: the reason, I just have to say that because it 665 00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:13,520 Speaker 1: wasn't tied to you a famous person. It wasn't. It 666 00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:17,120 Speaker 1: was just your product and either the name recognition or 667 00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:20,440 Speaker 1: your product of the first of all, the marketing it 668 00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:23,279 Speaker 1: looks so you have a beautiful looking product, first of all, 669 00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:27,359 Speaker 1: and and doing a tre minute job of marketing it 670 00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:30,239 Speaker 1: and so and so. So I didn't know what to 671 00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:32,319 Speaker 1: expect when I put in there. I just know that 672 00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:35,880 Speaker 1: I support, you know, African American entrepreneurs. That's the purpose 673 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:39,440 Speaker 1: of where I created money making conversations. But I also 674 00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:42,920 Speaker 1: noticed that when people clicked, you have you know, you 675 00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:45,680 Speaker 1: have unique clicks and you have a total clicks, all right, 676 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:49,560 Speaker 1: And people just kept going back to your ad. So 677 00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:51,960 Speaker 1: I always tell people that generally is a sign that 678 00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,520 Speaker 1: people were buying things when they keep going back, you know, 679 00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:56,600 Speaker 1: they go they go back to try and figure stuff out, 680 00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:58,440 Speaker 1: and go back and go back and go back. Usually 681 00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:01,560 Speaker 1: when people click one time, there could be some sales, 682 00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:04,919 Speaker 1: but usually, you know, because you rather do people click 683 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:06,960 Speaker 1: and they just go through the process of buying unless 684 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,600 Speaker 1: they really know what they're doing. So I just know 685 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:12,440 Speaker 1: that you are doing a great job of marketing and 686 00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:14,919 Speaker 1: the story you're telling on the air with me right now, 687 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:19,400 Speaker 1: it's pretty impressive. Um, thank you. I'm not finished with 688 00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:21,000 Speaker 1: any I just want to thank you. How do you 689 00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:27,200 Speaker 1: want to thank you? You know what I'm I'll be 690 00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:29,919 Speaker 1: having celebrities in there. You know, Erica Campbell, you're learning 691 00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:34,000 Speaker 1: the Adams, Kelly Rowlands. You know, I have a superstar paddler, 692 00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:36,200 Speaker 1: but I have superstars being they're selling stuff in my 693 00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:40,239 Speaker 1: news letter. And then little lot ms clip bar click 694 00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:46,960 Speaker 1: click click click click, congratulations, We go back with my 695 00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:51,120 Speaker 1: friend like the little bar ceo. She moved from New 696 00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:54,800 Speaker 1: York to Detroit and may ain't there was snowing in Detroit. 697 00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,040 Speaker 1: She to know what she had gotten herself into, but 698 00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:59,440 Speaker 1: she's a happy person. There's a lot of cliches. You 699 00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:05,880 Speaker 1: hear a lot in this business of being successful. You know, gifts, passion, um, 700 00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,480 Speaker 1: don't sleep on who you should really be. A lot 701 00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:10,960 Speaker 1: of quotes on the phone as a person who um 702 00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:16,800 Speaker 1: got a degree, family, family, rattlers down there, will packer 703 00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:20,600 Speaker 1: down there. You know. My board did two movies with 704 00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:23,040 Speaker 1: him Thinking like a Man and Think Like a Man too, 705 00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:26,640 Speaker 1: and just a number of great things. Before we go 706 00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:29,080 Speaker 1: into further into your brand, I want to talk about 707 00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:32,680 Speaker 1: the HBCU experience. I always like to talk to the 708 00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:37,880 Speaker 1: individuals and I have that experience, that level of education, 709 00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:41,680 Speaker 1: and to reflect on the importance of HBCUs. Can you 710 00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:46,359 Speaker 1: can you talk to us about it? Melissa oh man, Um, 711 00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:49,680 Speaker 1: I mean, if I'm gonna be honest, family changed my life, 712 00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:55,040 Speaker 1: Like honestly, it changed my life. I before I got 713 00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:58,880 Speaker 1: to fam you, I didn't know how culturally diverse Black 714 00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:04,160 Speaker 1: people are. Um, I didn't. I didn't really know how 715 00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:08,520 Speaker 1: to fill myself. I didn't know what made um a 716 00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:11,440 Speaker 1: special And like you know, when you grow up, you 717 00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:14,160 Speaker 1: always here that you know, we have to work prices hard, 718 00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:17,480 Speaker 1: and I think at an institution like FAMU and like 719 00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:22,120 Speaker 1: other HBCUs, you know, you're surrounded by black excellence, so 720 00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:26,239 Speaker 1: it doesn't become something that that you have to strive for, 721 00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:30,000 Speaker 1: it becomes your default. So FAM you taught fam You 722 00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:33,160 Speaker 1: taught me how to make excellence to my default. And 723 00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:36,480 Speaker 1: it taught me how to have just such such pride 724 00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:40,160 Speaker 1: in the diversity of black people. Now I'm from Detroit, 725 00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:43,400 Speaker 1: so Detroit is one of the blackest cities in America. 726 00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:46,759 Speaker 1: Is not the blackest city in America. So I've always had, like, 727 00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:51,040 Speaker 1: you know, the very strong racial pride. Like I've always 728 00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,960 Speaker 1: been a very proud black woman, but like going to 729 00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:57,920 Speaker 1: FAMU it really cemented that. And and I'm I'm just 730 00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:02,359 Speaker 1: really proud to have had merely black experiences because I've 731 00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:05,640 Speaker 1: never had the question who I am. I've never I've 732 00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:08,200 Speaker 1: never been in an environment where I felt the need 733 00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:10,720 Speaker 1: to assimilate, even when I was working on Wall Street 734 00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:14,480 Speaker 1: and I'm surrounded by you know, older white men. It 735 00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:17,000 Speaker 1: was my days at FAM YOU that prepared me for 736 00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:20,600 Speaker 1: those moments. So, like, I just really feel so blessed 737 00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:23,040 Speaker 1: to have have gone to that university. If I'm gonna 738 00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:26,320 Speaker 1: be honest, well, I'm just telling you, congratulations also it 739 00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:31,120 Speaker 1: also taught you that that be fearless obviously in developing 740 00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:34,840 Speaker 1: this liber Yeah, let's talk about because I mentioned the 741 00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:38,560 Speaker 1: newsletter and I and how it was the most clicked 742 00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:43,279 Speaker 1: um a banner or link in my newsletter that week. 743 00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:47,960 Speaker 1: How did the marketing starts talking? You talked about the product, okay, 744 00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:51,000 Speaker 1: and how you developed that. Let's talk about the marketing 745 00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:53,000 Speaker 1: and the art work. How did that come about and 746 00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:57,360 Speaker 1: who did you work with? So it's a couple of 747 00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:00,600 Speaker 1: different facets of the lit bar as a company. So 748 00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:05,120 Speaker 1: number one, I always say that that we don't like 749 00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:08,279 Speaker 1: the product is just something that we happen to sell, 750 00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:10,880 Speaker 1: But what we do is empower women. So like what 751 00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:13,560 Speaker 1: we do as a company is empower women and remind 752 00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:16,680 Speaker 1: them that they are enough. And then what we happen 753 00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,680 Speaker 1: to sell the byproduct of that is you know, these 754 00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:22,719 Speaker 1: vegan and cruelty free and high quality makeup products that 755 00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:25,800 Speaker 1: we actually sail on the website. So just understanding that 756 00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:29,239 Speaker 1: our goal is always to remind people that they are 757 00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:32,040 Speaker 1: enough and to allow themselves to be seen within the 758 00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:35,320 Speaker 1: beauty industry, that then dictated the rest of the marketing. 759 00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:37,920 Speaker 1: So if our goal is like okay, we're gonna increase 760 00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:42,080 Speaker 1: representation within the beauty industry, then that automatically decides what 761 00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:44,080 Speaker 1: models we use. So we're not going to use the 762 00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:46,759 Speaker 1: same models that you see in every single and and 763 00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:50,160 Speaker 1: every other ad because that is that is the default. 764 00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:53,960 Speaker 1: And we're trying to expand the minds of our customers 765 00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:56,480 Speaker 1: and show them that they are enough. So so it's 766 00:44:56,520 --> 00:45:00,480 Speaker 1: a lot of storytelling, and that storytelling really comes from, 767 00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:02,399 Speaker 1: you know, who we are as a company and who 768 00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:04,680 Speaker 1: we who we're trying to serve as a company. So 769 00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:08,120 Speaker 1: you know, we make sure that we're using you know, 770 00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:12,720 Speaker 1: women of all complexions, deep deep skin tone, um women 771 00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:16,720 Speaker 1: with no hair, women who are plus sized, the women 772 00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:20,880 Speaker 1: who um are Muslim. We're we're using all sorts of 773 00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,840 Speaker 1: women just to show that again, beauty doesn't come in 774 00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:27,640 Speaker 1: one shape or size, or one hair texture or one complexion. 775 00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,840 Speaker 1: Beauty isn't all of us. And so that really dictates 776 00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:33,880 Speaker 1: the marketing and it's just constantly telling the stories of 777 00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:37,560 Speaker 1: those women because ultimately, that's that's what it's about. It's 778 00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:39,799 Speaker 1: not about the product. It's about how this product makes 779 00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:42,800 Speaker 1: that woman feel and where this woman uses the product. 780 00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:47,160 Speaker 1: You know, where is this product accompanying her in her life. Um, 781 00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:50,920 Speaker 1: and that's that's really like what dictates all of our marketing. 782 00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:53,680 Speaker 1: Well he's done with it? Well, yeah do I'm on 783 00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:57,800 Speaker 1: the website now and seeing this as six products seven 784 00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:05,560 Speaker 1: minutes your full faith? What exactly is that? Yeah? I'm 785 00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:08,760 Speaker 1: so have you asked? So we just launched our fast 786 00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:14,200 Speaker 1: face system. It's called fast Face System, right yet, fast face? Yeah? 787 00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:17,200 Speaker 1: Slow down? You know, I got six sisters. But you 788 00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:19,640 Speaker 1: you know, just a world. I gotta stay, stay in 789 00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:21,759 Speaker 1: the loop with you. Don't you just race out there 790 00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:23,600 Speaker 1: like your boy. Know what you're talking about here? Okay, 791 00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:30,200 Speaker 1: I feel you. I feel so. So it's called the 792 00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:34,560 Speaker 1: fast Face. I found is that a lot of women 793 00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:37,279 Speaker 1: buy makeup and wear makeup, but they don't really know 794 00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:39,560 Speaker 1: how to use it, and they all really know what 795 00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:42,480 Speaker 1: works for them. It's kind of like when you go 796 00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:44,719 Speaker 1: to the grocery store if you don't know how to cook, 797 00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:46,440 Speaker 1: and you're just buying a bunch of seasonings, but you 798 00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:49,719 Speaker 1: still don't know how to put them in youth. It's 799 00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:52,840 Speaker 1: very it's a very funny analogy. It's very funny. I 800 00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:55,319 Speaker 1: like that, Yeah, you can't cook, then you can't cook. 801 00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:01,239 Speaker 1: You get buy every easy thing in the store, don't 802 00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:04,239 Speaker 1: make it mean that addition, don't turn off better. And 803 00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:07,640 Speaker 1: so we've we've found that a lot of women were 804 00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:10,960 Speaker 1: buying makeup products but didn't really know what worked for them, 805 00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:14,280 Speaker 1: what worked for their complexion, how to use the product 806 00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:17,520 Speaker 1: um And so we were like, we need to solve 807 00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:21,319 Speaker 1: the problem of the lack of education around makeup because 808 00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:24,080 Speaker 1: makeup is one of those things that that's been around 809 00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:27,279 Speaker 1: for a really long time. You just automatically expect that 810 00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:30,239 Speaker 1: people know what they're doing, but they don't. Like my 811 00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:33,560 Speaker 1: my customers are not makeup artists. They're not the people 812 00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:36,880 Speaker 1: who are watching YouTube videos. They don't have time, you know, 813 00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:40,280 Speaker 1: they're raising kids, or they're they're growing in their careers, 814 00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:44,080 Speaker 1: or they're just spending time more time on what actually matters. 815 00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:47,200 Speaker 1: And I'm gonna be honest, we've we've never believed that 816 00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:49,880 Speaker 1: makeup was the most important thing, and it should never be. 817 00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:52,320 Speaker 1: So we were like, okay, well, how do we allow 818 00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:57,120 Speaker 1: our customers to show up there as their best selves 819 00:47:57,320 --> 00:48:00,040 Speaker 1: without having to spend so much time trying to learn it. 820 00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:04,080 Speaker 1: So we launched our Face, our fast Faced system, which 821 00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:07,160 Speaker 1: is basically like the proactive of makeup where in six 822 00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:10,080 Speaker 1: products and it's designed to give you your full makeup 823 00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:14,120 Speaker 1: look in seven minutes or less. And we tell you exactly, 824 00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:17,200 Speaker 1: you know how to use the products, and we curate 825 00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:19,920 Speaker 1: what works for your complexion for you. So once we 826 00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:23,000 Speaker 1: know your foundation, we select all the rest of the 827 00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:25,000 Speaker 1: products for you, so you don't have to think about 828 00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:28,239 Speaker 1: what Blessed works from my complection, what likst it works 829 00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:30,400 Speaker 1: for me. If we know your skin tone, then we 830 00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:34,200 Speaker 1: select every single item in that fast Face kid, this 831 00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:38,319 Speaker 1: is awesome. Um so I'm just looking at your sight here, 832 00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:40,960 Speaker 1: I'm looking at her site as uh, the lip bar 833 00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:43,480 Speaker 1: dot com. That's why I got the information about the 834 00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:46,759 Speaker 1: six products, seven minute minutes your full face, which is 835 00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:49,440 Speaker 1: the fast faced system that she was talking about. And 836 00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:52,560 Speaker 1: then you have then then I clicked tutorials and then 837 00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:56,839 Speaker 1: you have the was that the fast Faced challenge right there? Yeah, 838 00:48:57,040 --> 00:49:00,200 Speaker 1: that's that's that's so much fun. That's like the content out. 839 00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:02,399 Speaker 1: You know, I'm just going through your site having fun. 840 00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:09,719 Speaker 1: I'm just always just clicking just but you know, I'm 841 00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:12,440 Speaker 1: very complimentary of you because of the fact that, uh, 842 00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:16,400 Speaker 1: it's a you know, everything I love walking in I 843 00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:19,879 Speaker 1: love branding I love trying to figure out what white 844 00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:23,440 Speaker 1: people relate to anything. First of all, your your lines 845 00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:28,719 Speaker 1: and your artwork clean. They're very clean, and and and 846 00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:31,520 Speaker 1: and everything's very it's it's just it's just almost like 847 00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:34,479 Speaker 1: it's three dimensional, but it's not. It's just done that well. 848 00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:39,160 Speaker 1: And so you tell a really good, fun story on 849 00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:42,840 Speaker 1: your website, and that's important because you know it's online, 850 00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:46,480 Speaker 1: it's online business, and so you're not working out of 851 00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:50,360 Speaker 1: a storefront, and so that is important. So when I'm 852 00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:52,560 Speaker 1: just having fun and going, I'm at the fast Faced 853 00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:55,920 Speaker 1: Challenge that clicked tutorials. I got options, I'm not I'm 854 00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:58,319 Speaker 1: not limited. I got the shade find I got the eye, 855 00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:01,480 Speaker 1: the face, the lips, the as faced kids. All this 856 00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:04,920 Speaker 1: good stuff is a guy. I'm a guy now, older 857 00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:07,520 Speaker 1: guy that not wearing in it. And I'm having fun. 858 00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:09,840 Speaker 1: So I can imagine that the women that come to 859 00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:12,359 Speaker 1: your site, and now I can see why your site 860 00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:15,000 Speaker 1: was so clicked. When people they click, they had to 861 00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:17,759 Speaker 1: come back. This is fun, This is fun. You tell 862 00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:23,640 Speaker 1: a great story that's hilarious. Thank you. Honestly, we had 863 00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:26,040 Speaker 1: to learn how to tell that story because when we 864 00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:28,800 Speaker 1: when we launched, you know, a lot of small businesses 865 00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:30,919 Speaker 1: out there. You don't you don't have money to launch 866 00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:33,279 Speaker 1: into a retail store. You don't have money to open 867 00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:35,839 Speaker 1: your own store. So we were like, all right, well, 868 00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:39,160 Speaker 1: we're selling something that people traditionally buy in person. How 869 00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:42,920 Speaker 1: do we make the most impactful moment possible online to 870 00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:46,799 Speaker 1: give that customer confidence to place in that order. Now 871 00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:48,680 Speaker 1: we have a little bit of flexibility because we're on 872 00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:56,000 Speaker 1: Target stores across the country. I mean, that's a little 873 00:50:56,080 --> 00:51:02,160 Speaker 1: bitty town aking okay, doing the girl Columbia sok at 874 00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:06,520 Speaker 1: the town that Columbia, rock Hill, South Carolina, Charlotte, North Carolina. 875 00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:11,319 Speaker 1: Congratulations here this is all I mean when when they 876 00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:14,120 Speaker 1: you crossed the board here, So you know, I also 877 00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:16,359 Speaker 1: know that they can buy you through the Amazon because 878 00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:18,520 Speaker 1: I went online, you know Amazon. I'll be I'll be 879 00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:20,399 Speaker 1: doing my little research. I don't know if you know, miss, 880 00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:23,080 Speaker 1: but I don't just get on the phone just start 881 00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:25,960 Speaker 1: talking to somebody trying to confused. I've done my homework 882 00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:29,040 Speaker 1: on you, and you got your little act together, little 883 00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:31,879 Speaker 1: miss fam you little miss I was in New York 884 00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:34,319 Speaker 1: just doing it and I got tired. I just went 885 00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:37,440 Speaker 1: on back home. Detroit said, hey, I'm gonna make it happen, 886 00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:39,400 Speaker 1: and you all making it happen. If you had to 887 00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:43,320 Speaker 1: say anything to anybody who listened to your shows. The 888 00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:46,560 Speaker 1: lift bar dot com our own lines of very use 889 00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:48,680 Speaker 1: in front of side. You can go to the store 890 00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:51,800 Speaker 1: locator and find out the nearest target near you. And 891 00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:54,600 Speaker 1: believe me, it's gonna be a target near you. I'm 892 00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:57,360 Speaker 1: going through this little thing and it's it's so you know, 893 00:51:57,400 --> 00:51:59,920 Speaker 1: when you scroll down, you get tied scrolling down. I'm 894 00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:02,640 Speaker 1: tired of scrolling down. That's how many target stories she's 895 00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:07,600 Speaker 1: she's wearing me at Warren, Michigan, Greenville Northline. I'm telling 896 00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:09,920 Speaker 1: you something I I as a stand up comic. I 897 00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:12,400 Speaker 1: used to travel this country all over. I know how 898 00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:15,880 Speaker 1: small Greenville, North Carolina. See that's a compliment. See when 899 00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:19,439 Speaker 1: you're in cities like Greenville, North Clina, that means everybody 900 00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:23,320 Speaker 1: buying her product. Everybody understands the value of her product. 901 00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:27,360 Speaker 1: And it's only get bigger. Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. This is awesome. 902 00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:29,960 Speaker 1: I'm excited for you. What's the what's the what's the 903 00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:33,240 Speaker 1: goal here? Ms Butler, Well, you're gonna take over the world. 904 00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:42,880 Speaker 1: You are hious. I'm excited for you. You know, this 905 00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:45,640 Speaker 1: is a beauty of Chester Peake, Virginia. You're just rocking 906 00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:49,239 Speaker 1: the rod Woodbridge, Virginia. I mean just just you' all 907 00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:51,960 Speaker 1: the target stories. This is beautiful. So what's the what's 908 00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:54,239 Speaker 1: the what's the ultimate goal here? My friend? You know, 909 00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:57,200 Speaker 1: it just started out to make sure that everybody should 910 00:52:57,239 --> 00:52:59,719 Speaker 1: not understand that beauty doesn't start with the product starts 911 00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:03,360 Speaker 1: with them. Then the product only enhances it. And and 912 00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:07,520 Speaker 1: it's organic, it's vegan, you know, and it's not cruelty related. 913 00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:13,399 Speaker 1: What's the future, lip bar? The future just to make 914 00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:16,279 Speaker 1: sure that every woman knows that they are enough and 915 00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:19,839 Speaker 1: to keep growing this, this black owned business as big 916 00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:22,360 Speaker 1: as it can so that we can start reinvesting in 917 00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:25,359 Speaker 1: our community. Well, my friend, I'm gonna drop you back 918 00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:27,439 Speaker 1: at my news letter this time. You know it's coming. 919 00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:29,840 Speaker 1: I'm sure it's gonna be the most click thing in 920 00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:34,040 Speaker 1: my newsletter. And uh god, bless you girl, don't you change. 921 00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:37,080 Speaker 1: I'm glad I got you on my show like ms 922 00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:41,320 Speaker 1: Abouski war that's my girl. She introduced me to you. 923 00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:44,799 Speaker 1: My staff already knew about you because I'm an old dude, 924 00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:47,560 Speaker 1: don't know nothing about the lipstick. But now I do 925 00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:49,759 Speaker 1: cause I know where the lip bar dot com is. 926 00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:52,120 Speaker 1: I got the story local, i'mna take my little twitter 927 00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:56,640 Speaker 1: two year old daughters say, let's go lip bar shopping. Okay, oh, 928 00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:59,560 Speaker 1: I love it. I really appreciate you. This is like 929 00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:02,719 Speaker 1: my fun interview ever. I love it. I appreciate you. 930 00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:09,560 Speaker 1: You stay safe? Okay, thank you. Sticky notes, email alerts, 931 00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:13,160 Speaker 1: a string around your finger. They're just not big enough. 932 00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:16,000 Speaker 1: So here's a big reminder from the California Lottery Tomorrow's 933 00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:19,479 Speaker 1: MAKA millions jack potties over which million play? Now, please 934 00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:21,520 Speaker 1: play responsible. You must be eighteen years older to purchase 935 00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:26,000 Speaker 1: player pion. And we're live here outside the Perez family home, 936 00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:29,480 Speaker 1: just waiting for the and there they go, almost on time. 937 00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:32,240 Speaker 1: This morning. Mom is coming out the front door strong 938 00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:34,920 Speaker 1: with a double arm kid carry. Looks like dad has 939 00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:38,120 Speaker 1: the bags. Daughter is bringing up the rear. Oh but 940 00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:42,719 Speaker 1: the diaper bag wasn't closed. Diapers and toys are everywhere. 941 00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:46,879 Speaker 1: Oh but mom has just nailed the perfect car seat 942 00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:50,120 Speaker 1: buckle for the toddler. And now the eldest daughter, who 943 00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:52,920 Speaker 1: looks to be about nine or ten, has secured herself 944 00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:55,640 Speaker 1: and the booster seat. Dad zips the bag clothes and 945 00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:59,640 Speaker 1: they're off, But looks like Mom doesn't realize your coffee 946 00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:02,000 Speaker 1: cup is stow on the roof of the car and 947 00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:06,080 Speaker 1: there it goes. Oh, that's a shame that mug was 948 00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:09,239 Speaker 1: a fan favorite. Don't sweat the small stuff, just nail 949 00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:11,360 Speaker 1: the big stuff, like making sure your kids are buckled 950 00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:13,480 Speaker 1: correctly in the right seat for their agent's eyes. Learn 951 00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:15,400 Speaker 1: more n h t s a dot gov Slash the 952 00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:20,759 Speaker 1: Right Seat. Visits dot gov Slash the Right Seat, brought 953 00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:24,200 Speaker 1: to you by NITZA and the AD Council. What grows 954 00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:27,680 Speaker 1: in the forest trees? Sure you know what else grows 955 00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:31,360 Speaker 1: in the forest. Our imagination, our sense of wonder, and 956 00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:34,719 Speaker 1: our family bonds grow too, because when we disconnect from 957 00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:41,200 Speaker 1: this and connect with this, we reconnect with each other. 958 00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:44,800 Speaker 1: The forest is closer than you think. Find a forest 959 00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:48,440 Speaker 1: near you and start exploring. I Discover the Forest dot Org. 960 00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:51,320 Speaker 1: Brought to you by the United States Forest Service and 961 00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:54,400 Speaker 1: the AD Council. The next guest is known to the 962 00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:59,239 Speaker 1: world as an internationally acclaimed singer, actress, entrepreneur, and executive 963 00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:02,480 Speaker 1: television user, best known for her current role as the 964 00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:07,640 Speaker 1: start of we TV's hit series Braxton Family Values. She's 965 00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:11,160 Speaker 1: also an entrepreneur of Ladybug Skincare, new cosmetic line. That's 966 00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:13,320 Speaker 1: why I really got on the show. She's an entrepreneur 967 00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:16,120 Speaker 1: of y'all. The products are created for all skin types 968 00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:19,399 Speaker 1: and gives the user a young, natural and refreshing glow. 969 00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:22,120 Speaker 1: Please work with the money making conversation, my friend. To 970 00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:27,680 Speaker 1: wind up, Braxton, thank you for having you. Know, Tota, 971 00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:29,560 Speaker 1: I want to just tell you, thank you for doing 972 00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:31,960 Speaker 1: the show. And the first time I want I was 973 00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:34,520 Speaker 1: sitting in the screening room and uh, it was a 974 00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:39,279 Speaker 1: misguided behavioral movie makes I was screaming that movie with 975 00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:41,920 Speaker 1: a good friend of my Sharon Tomlinson. It's a very 976 00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:44,960 Speaker 1: good friend of mine. Pray for her every day. And 977 00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:47,640 Speaker 1: uh and so and I said, who's that? Who's that? 978 00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:50,840 Speaker 1: She says, Because I don't want look at reality shows 979 00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:55,080 Speaker 1: all the time, I said, Now, I formerly managed Steve Harvey, 980 00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:58,000 Speaker 1: and I remember you guys came into our studios in 981 00:56:58,120 --> 00:57:01,160 Speaker 1: Atlanta and we interviewed guys as a group. We had 982 00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:03,799 Speaker 1: all stacked up, some of y'all in front, I'm all 983 00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:06,160 Speaker 1: in the back road. So I met you then, okay, 984 00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:08,640 Speaker 1: and so we have a little physical history of meeting 985 00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:12,160 Speaker 1: you and I go. I know I told her that. 986 00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:16,280 Speaker 1: I know, I told her, just an acting debut. You 987 00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:20,920 Speaker 1: need me on the stage doing your thing and there. So, 988 00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:24,240 Speaker 1: so you talk about that, that's a love that I 989 00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:26,280 Speaker 1: saw in you, a skill I saw in you that 990 00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:30,640 Speaker 1: surprised me. And and you know, I'm a guy always 991 00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:33,080 Speaker 1: looking for new talent, always looking for different ways to 992 00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:36,120 Speaker 1: to bring people to the forefront of their their dreams. 993 00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:38,400 Speaker 1: That's all I'm assuming acting, there's a dream of yours. 994 00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:41,600 Speaker 1: Talk about that the whole acting background, because you get 995 00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:43,360 Speaker 1: caught up in the reality the world and people think 996 00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:45,240 Speaker 1: that's all you want to do, that's all you can't 997 00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:47,840 Speaker 1: do because you're already known as a notable singer. But 998 00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:51,200 Speaker 1: just talk about their love for acting to wander. Okay, 999 00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:54,000 Speaker 1: So like back in the day when I was a child, 1000 00:57:57,600 --> 00:58:00,840 Speaker 1: I used to always be in all the elementary school plays. 1001 00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:03,520 Speaker 1: And then when I got to h Junior high school, 1002 00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:07,000 Speaker 1: I was in all the plays then. Um and then 1003 00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:10,360 Speaker 1: you know, I always made sure I went I didn't 1004 00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:12,240 Speaker 1: go against the grain when it came to my family 1005 00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:16,280 Speaker 1: because singing with the family's business. Um. So when when 1006 00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:22,880 Speaker 1: I went to college, I um we did when we 1007 00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:32,440 Speaker 1: said university, you talk about that? So um And we 1008 00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:37,800 Speaker 1: did off Broadway show called String Girls and I played 1009 00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:41,120 Speaker 1: Larrell Um and this was in Maryland. And then the 1010 00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:46,960 Speaker 1: director was also a professor at Howard University UM, and 1011 00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:49,880 Speaker 1: he was also a personal friend of the families. And 1012 00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:52,600 Speaker 1: he never knew that I really wanted to act. So 1013 00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:55,680 Speaker 1: when you know, he as the director, he always called 1014 00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:58,000 Speaker 1: me about my character named Mourel. Did you did you've 1015 00:58:58,040 --> 00:59:00,360 Speaker 1: ever take any acting classes? And I was like, al Sir, 1016 00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:02,520 Speaker 1: I never took any. He was like, are you kidding me? 1017 00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:05,800 Speaker 1: And I'd be like, al sir. And all the actors 1018 00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:07,920 Speaker 1: that he had in the play outside of me and 1019 00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:12,200 Speaker 1: my sisters were from Howard University UM, and they were 1020 00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:14,320 Speaker 1: just amaze that I never took any classes. He was like, 1021 00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:16,800 Speaker 1: you have a raw talent. He said, Um, I want 1022 00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:20,440 Speaker 1: to give you a theater scholarship at Howard University. And 1023 00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:26,160 Speaker 1: I didn't take it. I turned it down because for one, 1024 00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:29,040 Speaker 1: like I said, I was in the family's business and 1025 00:59:29,080 --> 00:59:32,440 Speaker 1: the family's business of singing, although my passion and my 1026 00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:37,760 Speaker 1: love was acting always, and you have a talent for 1027 00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:40,840 Speaker 1: thank you, thank you, thank you. So I went ahead 1028 00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:43,560 Speaker 1: and did the family thing. You know, we me, Tamar 1029 00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:48,400 Speaker 1: and Trina signed with air Aris I'm sorry, I'm Atlantic Records. 1030 00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:50,800 Speaker 1: And we tried. We we toured with muth of van 1031 00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:54,200 Speaker 1: Ross in al sitter Tony. So, I mean we had 1032 00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:58,800 Speaker 1: some moderate success that the overseas. UM, but I still 1033 00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:02,080 Speaker 1: really wanted to add so I took some I started 1034 01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:06,120 Speaker 1: taking some acting classes um in Atlanta. I mean, I 1035 01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:09,800 Speaker 1: was really trying to own into my craft. Um. And 1036 01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:13,840 Speaker 1: then I was accepted into a Lee Straussburg acting classes 1037 01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:19,000 Speaker 1: in l A. Um, you can active there, Okay, you 1038 01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:26,200 Speaker 1: act the rest that dude right there for a person 1039 01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:30,880 Speaker 1: and that right. So I was really I was so 1040 01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:35,479 Speaker 1: excited that I was accepted into that school. So I'm 1041 01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:37,240 Speaker 1: a good friend of mine. He's like a brother. He's 1042 01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:40,000 Speaker 1: like one of my male best friends in the business. 1043 01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:44,240 Speaker 1: Carl Payne, he said yes, she said, come on, tee, 1044 01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:45,720 Speaker 1: I got this movie. I want you to be in 1045 01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:49,440 Speaker 1: this movie. And um, I was like cool. And then 1046 01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:52,880 Speaker 1: and then what I love about having friends like like 1047 01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:56,200 Speaker 1: Carl is he didn't just have me in the movie 1048 01:00:56,280 --> 01:00:58,360 Speaker 1: just because I was his friends. You know what I 1049 01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:00,560 Speaker 1: mean I had I mean, I had to work towards 1050 01:01:02,520 --> 01:01:04,800 Speaker 1: you know because me being his friend. If he was 1051 01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:06,960 Speaker 1: just doing it as my friend, he would have made 1052 01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:08,520 Speaker 1: me in the least. And he was like, no, this 1053 01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:11,480 Speaker 1: is what you're gonna do. So he gave me a 1054 01:01:11,560 --> 01:01:14,000 Speaker 1: part in the movie. U. I earned a part in 1055 01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:18,360 Speaker 1: the movie Get the Time, right, earned right. I earned 1056 01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:20,400 Speaker 1: a part in the movie. And I was so super 1057 01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:23,760 Speaker 1: super happy. Um, that was my That was the first 1058 01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:26,560 Speaker 1: time that I really got my feat wet um as 1059 01:01:26,640 --> 01:01:33,120 Speaker 1: being an actor in the in the movie. When I 1060 01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:36,640 Speaker 1: when I always talk about people on the show about entertainment, entrepreneurship, 1061 01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:39,280 Speaker 1: and I always tell people to value and the importance 1062 01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:43,040 Speaker 1: of relationships. Okay, this is this is what I speak 1063 01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:46,040 Speaker 1: of when I say relationships because again, you know, we 1064 01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:48,760 Speaker 1: were talented, we'll get you so far. I would tell 1065 01:01:48,840 --> 01:01:51,640 Speaker 1: relationships will keep you in the game. Okay, yeah, And 1066 01:01:52,200 --> 01:01:54,560 Speaker 1: this is what you could talk about the value relationship 1067 01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:56,880 Speaker 1: not only just the opportunity you got with you know, 1068 01:01:57,080 --> 01:02:00,960 Speaker 1: calling this movie, but also in the industry overall. How 1069 01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:04,000 Speaker 1: to help you having been having a relationship of having 1070 01:02:04,080 --> 01:02:07,000 Speaker 1: talent and extending you and giving you a career in 1071 01:02:07,080 --> 01:02:11,520 Speaker 1: this business. Absolutely, yes, So you know what, it's one 1072 01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:15,280 Speaker 1: thing about just having the the UM. I guess the 1073 01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:20,440 Speaker 1: gift of whether it's singing, act and producing is one thing. 1074 01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:22,680 Speaker 1: Just to have that gift of being able to do 1075 01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:27,040 Speaker 1: those things is another thing. Of how you perceive yourself 1076 01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:30,480 Speaker 1: in front of individuals. And I always say that the 1077 01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:33,280 Speaker 1: st the toes that you step on today may be 1078 01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:36,400 Speaker 1: connected to the ask you have to kiss tomorrow. So 1079 01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:41,000 Speaker 1: you have to be extremely careful with how you treat people. 1080 01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:43,720 Speaker 1: You just have to, you know, I know in in 1081 01:02:43,800 --> 01:02:48,520 Speaker 1: the entertainment industry, people get on your nerves. Everybody isn't 1082 01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:51,280 Speaker 1: always on the up and up and people there are 1083 01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:53,800 Speaker 1: a lot of users, not just an entertainment industry but 1084 01:02:53,840 --> 01:02:56,600 Speaker 1: across the board in the world. UM. So you have 1085 01:02:56,840 --> 01:02:59,919 Speaker 1: to be careful UM. And you have to be sharp 1086 01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:04,960 Speaker 1: as well. So it's very important to maintain relationships. Just 1087 01:03:05,120 --> 01:03:08,160 Speaker 1: be nice to people. It doesn't take nothing, just to 1088 01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:11,400 Speaker 1: smile and just to say thank you, um and and 1089 01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:14,400 Speaker 1: those things will take you a long way. Like um 1090 01:03:14,720 --> 01:03:18,040 Speaker 1: and it took me to another situation where I've been. 1091 01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:21,640 Speaker 1: I'm very close friends with Terry Vaughan and Cast Figgers, 1092 01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:27,360 Speaker 1: who who's an incredible writer. She's written Yes, Yes and 1093 01:03:27,480 --> 01:03:30,760 Speaker 1: she and and Terry is she's an incredible or phenomenal 1094 01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:35,400 Speaker 1: actor and she's a phenomenal director. Um so I was able. 1095 01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:39,240 Speaker 1: I was able to um have an opportunity to be 1096 01:03:39,680 --> 01:03:42,960 Speaker 1: in another movie and it was a Christmas movie with 1097 01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:55,800 Speaker 1: David and Tamela. Man keep braggingly embracing the fact that 1098 01:03:56,240 --> 01:03:58,440 Speaker 1: this is something that I love, so I get excited about, 1099 01:03:58,600 --> 01:04:00,880 Speaker 1: you know. I mean I talked about my music and 1100 01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:03,600 Speaker 1: I talked about singing with my family. But that's to me, 1101 01:04:03,800 --> 01:04:07,400 Speaker 1: that's like second nature. That's like greeting, you know, And 1102 01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:12,280 Speaker 1: that's something that was the family, which is important, Which 1103 01:04:12,360 --> 01:04:15,800 Speaker 1: is important. It's so important, and that's why that's that's 1104 01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:17,440 Speaker 1: why I wanted to bring that out because a lot 1105 01:04:17,480 --> 01:04:19,360 Speaker 1: of a lot of times people they want to just 1106 01:04:19,560 --> 01:04:22,120 Speaker 1: label you on what they know about you. And when 1107 01:04:22,160 --> 01:04:24,680 Speaker 1: I try to get money making conversations allow my guests 1108 01:04:24,760 --> 01:04:27,040 Speaker 1: to have a conversation and also to talk about the 1109 01:04:27,120 --> 01:04:29,400 Speaker 1: things that excite them. Because like you know, I got 1110 01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:31,760 Speaker 1: my degree in mathematics, I wanted to work for EEL. 1111 01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:34,960 Speaker 1: It's just like you said, you know, you know, family 1112 01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:37,960 Speaker 1: bears a singing, but that doesn't necessarily make I was 1113 01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:39,680 Speaker 1: going to be working at ibing for the rest of 1114 01:04:39,720 --> 01:04:43,120 Speaker 1: my life. So now it's time to explore what makes 1115 01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:45,680 Speaker 1: me happy, what motivates me to get out of bed, 1116 01:04:46,120 --> 01:04:48,720 Speaker 1: and you have to take rest. They're no, they're no guarantees. 1117 01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:50,600 Speaker 1: Now it's guarantee you can go on that stage and 1118 01:04:50,680 --> 01:04:53,680 Speaker 1: hit the note not to wander. There's no guarantee. You 1119 01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:59,080 Speaker 1: don't know what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying. 1120 01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:04,320 Speaker 1: Nothing that's that's doesn't But a gift doesn't necessarily mean 1121 01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:10,240 Speaker 1: that's your passion, right, You got to speak on that come. 1122 01:05:10,320 --> 01:05:12,320 Speaker 1: That's that's why I brought you on the show. You 1123 01:05:12,320 --> 01:05:14,840 Speaker 1: didn't know why he was coming on this show. You said, Okay, 1124 01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:17,439 Speaker 1: I hear by RuSHA. They got me schedule for this show. 1125 01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:19,720 Speaker 1: Money make comes in. I'm gonna make this phone call 1126 01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:22,360 Speaker 1: and see what's going on, you know, just the promotion. 1127 01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:25,240 Speaker 1: But I can't tell everybody but your story, your story 1128 01:05:25,320 --> 01:05:28,919 Speaker 1: of a motivation, story about following your truths. And that's 1129 01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:31,560 Speaker 1: where law is about your truths. But you know, when 1130 01:05:31,600 --> 01:05:34,680 Speaker 1: the business making money, so we'll do some things to 1131 01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:38,320 Speaker 1: make money to pay the bills. But remember, in the end, 1132 01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:42,120 Speaker 1: before you die, before you before you give up hope, 1133 01:05:42,760 --> 01:05:47,560 Speaker 1: at least try to participating what you really wanted to do. 1134 01:05:48,120 --> 01:05:50,160 Speaker 1: And so so when I saw you a miss guy 1135 01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:52,480 Speaker 1: to behave, I started smile and I said, yeah, I 1136 01:05:52,560 --> 01:05:56,280 Speaker 1: remember she came. She came with Steve Harvey. She I 1137 01:05:56,360 --> 01:05:58,160 Speaker 1: had a booked on our show, and that the first 1138 01:05:58,160 --> 01:06:00,160 Speaker 1: time I mentioned it was a casual meeting. And to 1139 01:06:00,280 --> 01:06:03,040 Speaker 1: see you there because because to me, reality shows it 1140 01:06:03,160 --> 01:06:05,000 Speaker 1: what they are there their reality. You know what I'm 1141 01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:08,320 Speaker 1: saying there there, and some of the ways are improvised 1142 01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:10,840 Speaker 1: in some of them over arched. I'm not saying your show, 1143 01:06:10,920 --> 01:06:14,680 Speaker 1: but in general and so so, but that's not acting. 1144 01:06:15,040 --> 01:06:19,240 Speaker 1: And so when I say a naturally talented person skilled 1145 01:06:19,480 --> 01:06:22,280 Speaker 1: look comfortable, because I know the difficultures of acting. When 1146 01:06:22,280 --> 01:06:24,840 Speaker 1: I look at acting, I go wow. I really appreciate 1147 01:06:24,920 --> 01:06:29,000 Speaker 1: people who can translate words because I did Tom come 1148 01:06:29,040 --> 01:06:33,280 Speaker 1: from Jamie Foxx, the Parkers Sister sister. So I've seen 1149 01:06:33,320 --> 01:06:36,760 Speaker 1: my words come to life a lot, and so to 1150 01:06:36,960 --> 01:06:40,480 Speaker 1: see you do that, to want to don't stop, please, 1151 01:06:40,520 --> 01:06:44,000 Speaker 1: don't stop. Thank you, Thank you, thank you for saying that. 1152 01:06:44,240 --> 01:06:46,480 Speaker 1: Thank you. Be right back on, lady. I'm gonna go 1153 01:06:46,520 --> 01:06:48,720 Speaker 1: to this break. We're gonna go to this break. I 1154 01:06:48,760 --> 01:06:51,680 Speaker 1: gotta talk about your entrepreneur career and also just talk 1155 01:06:51,720 --> 01:06:55,680 Speaker 1: about you though, what did you gain and the lessons 1156 01:06:55,720 --> 01:06:58,320 Speaker 1: you learned of doing a reality series and things like that, 1157 01:06:58,520 --> 01:07:00,480 Speaker 1: But just to just to understand point of its just 1158 01:07:00,520 --> 01:07:03,040 Speaker 1: a career, because we all know that's a stepping stone 1159 01:07:03,080 --> 01:07:05,720 Speaker 1: and you want to bigger steps and higher steps on 1160 01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:07,680 Speaker 1: that ladder. I would like to stop the show for 1161 01:07:07,760 --> 01:07:10,280 Speaker 1: a minute because I'm an advocate. I did not go 1162 01:07:10,440 --> 01:07:12,720 Speaker 1: to an hbc U, but that doesn't stop me from 1163 01:07:12,760 --> 01:07:15,720 Speaker 1: being an advocate and promoting HBCU is because of the 1164 01:07:16,040 --> 01:07:18,760 Speaker 1: fact that the contributions that they bring to us that 1165 01:07:18,840 --> 01:07:20,840 Speaker 1: a lot of people don't recognize on a regular basis. 1166 01:07:21,160 --> 01:07:25,720 Speaker 1: Please tell us about attending HBCU. Why you recommend, you know, 1167 01:07:25,880 --> 01:07:29,640 Speaker 1: individuals to go to black and white male female to 1168 01:07:29,720 --> 01:07:34,200 Speaker 1: go to HBCUs. Well, you know what, First of all, UM, 1169 01:07:34,520 --> 01:07:36,800 Speaker 1: when I was growing up and I went to my 1170 01:07:36,920 --> 01:07:41,200 Speaker 1: secondary schools, it was predominantly white. And I have to 1171 01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:44,480 Speaker 1: say that, UM, I know this is gonna sound bad 1172 01:07:44,560 --> 01:07:48,000 Speaker 1: to say, but culturally, Um, it was a cultural shock 1173 01:07:48,160 --> 01:07:50,680 Speaker 1: for me to even go to Booty State University because 1174 01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:53,720 Speaker 1: I saw so many of my people. But I think 1175 01:07:53,760 --> 01:07:58,800 Speaker 1: it's so important, Um, for us to embrace HBCUs, to 1176 01:07:58,920 --> 01:08:02,720 Speaker 1: support hbc USED because that's how we learn. We learned 1177 01:08:02,760 --> 01:08:06,720 Speaker 1: from other individuals, that's in our own culture, you know. 1178 01:08:06,960 --> 01:08:10,160 Speaker 1: And I learned so much stuff that I didn't learn 1179 01:08:10,240 --> 01:08:12,840 Speaker 1: when I was in school because of course they don't 1180 01:08:12,880 --> 01:08:16,439 Speaker 1: teach everything, and you know your secondary schools. I mean, 1181 01:08:16,479 --> 01:08:18,960 Speaker 1: I learned about the isis paper. I learned. I mean 1182 01:08:19,040 --> 01:08:22,680 Speaker 1: I just started reading stuff. I had no idea about UM. 1183 01:08:22,800 --> 01:08:27,559 Speaker 1: And then just culturally, wed black Black people were party 1184 01:08:27,640 --> 01:08:31,400 Speaker 1: different we speak differently, we support differently, and I just 1185 01:08:31,479 --> 01:08:34,480 Speaker 1: think that that's so important to go to an HBCU 1186 01:08:34,560 --> 01:08:37,639 Speaker 1: and I pledged. I'm a zata and I'm a sick 1187 01:08:37,720 --> 01:08:44,720 Speaker 1: a sweetheart nine member. Okay, you're talking to a man 1188 01:08:44,920 --> 01:08:52,120 Speaker 1: right now, right, so right, I think we're going for 1189 01:08:53,400 --> 01:08:56,479 Speaker 1: and then and then the reason that I even pledge 1190 01:08:57,200 --> 01:09:01,519 Speaker 1: data UM is because I went to this UM. I 1191 01:09:01,600 --> 01:09:04,679 Speaker 1: went to this nonprofit dinner and I had no idea 1192 01:09:04,800 --> 01:09:06,800 Speaker 1: that we was sponsored by the Blue and White Family 1193 01:09:09,040 --> 01:09:11,640 Speaker 1: and UM Mayor Barry was there. I mean, there was 1194 01:09:11,720 --> 01:09:14,240 Speaker 1: so many prominent people there because I'm from the the 1195 01:09:14,360 --> 01:09:17,719 Speaker 1: DNB area, UM and the dinner was NBC and baby Faces. 1196 01:09:17,800 --> 01:09:20,000 Speaker 1: But he just went because the baby Face was performing. 1197 01:09:20,040 --> 01:09:22,240 Speaker 1: I got tickets, you know, and he get to the table, 1198 01:09:22,280 --> 01:09:25,719 Speaker 1: So maybe Face was performing. After seven was there Cavan 1199 01:09:26,160 --> 01:09:29,719 Speaker 1: and El DeBarge there was performing. And then they started 1200 01:09:29,760 --> 01:09:32,080 Speaker 1: talking about a lot of a lot of men with 1201 01:09:32,240 --> 01:09:37,720 Speaker 1: high pitched voices were performing. That's that's really really sick 1202 01:09:39,520 --> 01:09:42,720 Speaker 1: talking about or you know how Laskey kids in the 1203 01:09:42,800 --> 01:09:45,840 Speaker 1: board of Babies and all of that. And I had 1204 01:09:45,960 --> 01:09:49,400 Speaker 1: no idea that the Blue and White Family was connected 1205 01:09:49,439 --> 01:09:52,240 Speaker 1: to those organizations. And I was like, wow. And I'm 1206 01:09:52,280 --> 01:09:54,920 Speaker 1: not a person who really brags about everything that I 1207 01:09:55,040 --> 01:09:57,639 Speaker 1: do or you know, I don't always want to paddle 1208 01:09:57,720 --> 01:10:00,880 Speaker 1: my back for supporting or helping some one, and that 1209 01:10:01,080 --> 01:10:03,720 Speaker 1: was more of my personality. So I was like, oh 1210 01:10:03,760 --> 01:10:05,760 Speaker 1: my god, I want to join the organization. And I 1211 01:10:05,920 --> 01:10:10,200 Speaker 1: became Zeta and the single sweetheart. Congratulations. I always tell people, 1212 01:10:10,200 --> 01:10:13,479 Speaker 1: you know, when I talk about HBC overbcus across the 1213 01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:16,759 Speaker 1: country and the only a role of the African American 1214 01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:20,759 Speaker 1: student and despite constitute only three percent for your colleges 1215 01:10:20,800 --> 01:10:24,320 Speaker 1: in the country, HBC used produced eight percent of the 1216 01:10:24,360 --> 01:10:29,240 Speaker 1: black judges, of the black lawyers, of the black doctors, 1217 01:10:29,560 --> 01:10:33,320 Speaker 1: forty of the black engineers of the Black members of converences, 1218 01:10:34,000 --> 01:10:37,840 Speaker 1: percent of all Black STEM graduates and of the black 1219 01:10:37,920 --> 01:10:41,400 Speaker 1: CEOs in America. That is why I needed to hear 1220 01:10:41,479 --> 01:10:45,160 Speaker 1: your story of Towanda, because it's in that mix that 1221 01:10:45,320 --> 01:10:47,519 Speaker 1: we need to keep telling people when every year talking 1222 01:10:47,520 --> 01:10:51,680 Speaker 1: about we need to why we funding HBCUs? Do you 1223 01:10:51,800 --> 01:10:54,880 Speaker 1: know how you have to? What else do we have? Really? Um? 1224 01:10:55,040 --> 01:10:58,280 Speaker 1: And then another thing is I don't agree with like 1225 01:10:58,600 --> 01:11:00,760 Speaker 1: some of these EPCs. You It's like, why are they 1226 01:11:00,840 --> 01:11:03,479 Speaker 1: falling apart? Why are they falling by the wayside? Because 1227 01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:07,080 Speaker 1: even State University, who was the first teacher's college in 1228 01:11:07,200 --> 01:11:11,439 Speaker 1: Maryland might add black, sorry the first black because college 1229 01:11:12,400 --> 01:11:14,840 Speaker 1: now it's under the University of Maryland system, And I'm 1230 01:11:14,880 --> 01:11:17,760 Speaker 1: like how it happens? Right? Well, you know I think 1231 01:11:17,800 --> 01:11:19,960 Speaker 1: that that's why I'm really promoting and I got some 1232 01:11:20,080 --> 01:11:22,840 Speaker 1: things under the work said I'm gonna be announcing in 1233 01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:25,479 Speaker 1: the month of August just to shine more light. And 1234 01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:28,400 Speaker 1: it's like anything you know, you don't know about Ohio State, 1235 01:11:28,400 --> 01:11:32,200 Speaker 1: you don't know about Maryland. Because people's promoted and this 1236 01:11:32,400 --> 01:11:35,479 Speaker 1: brand has to be promoted and signed the light of success. 1237 01:11:35,680 --> 01:11:37,920 Speaker 1: Like those numbers that I'm talking about, they need to 1238 01:11:37,960 --> 01:11:40,760 Speaker 1: be shined on a regular basis, not only just the 1239 01:11:40,920 --> 01:11:43,599 Speaker 1: African Americans, but to the world, and people go, really, 1240 01:11:44,120 --> 01:11:46,400 Speaker 1: what kind of education that they're doing over there, education 1241 01:11:46,479 --> 01:11:49,320 Speaker 1: that your kids can go to, your kids can go to, 1242 01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:53,160 Speaker 1: because it's it's the it's HBCUs are tied to diversity, 1243 01:11:53,760 --> 01:11:56,200 Speaker 1: and that's something that a lot of people don't admit 1244 01:11:56,320 --> 01:12:00,200 Speaker 1: to happening. And so and so in twenty eleven when 1245 01:12:00,240 --> 01:12:04,560 Speaker 1: they was like a really strategized campaign to try to 1246 01:12:04,680 --> 01:12:09,320 Speaker 1: diminish the accomplishments of HBCUs and hurt HBCUs. And so 1247 01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:12,920 Speaker 1: my motivation now is like, okay with Sean, you know 1248 01:12:13,360 --> 01:12:15,200 Speaker 1: this is what you do. You're marking in brain. And 1249 01:12:15,280 --> 01:12:18,160 Speaker 1: so whenever I have a fantastic person who's attending an 1250 01:12:18,240 --> 01:12:20,840 Speaker 1: HPCU like you, I always just like carve out a 1251 01:12:20,920 --> 01:12:24,000 Speaker 1: moment in the show. Do you think you're tap dance boy? 1252 01:12:24,200 --> 01:12:26,720 Speaker 1: Come on, do you think they're th HBC moment? What's 1253 01:12:26,960 --> 01:12:29,040 Speaker 1: about to do with that? I'm gonna set aside my 1254 01:12:29,360 --> 01:12:31,120 Speaker 1: time for h b c U s and it's gonna 1255 01:12:31,160 --> 01:12:34,280 Speaker 1: get bigg to wander. Now. Did I know now that 1256 01:12:34,400 --> 01:12:40,479 Speaker 1: I know blue and white, blue white, you can be 1257 01:12:40,560 --> 01:12:42,960 Speaker 1: here from your boy, But before we get out here, 1258 01:12:43,000 --> 01:12:45,840 Speaker 1: I'll be remiss. But I if I don't talk about 1259 01:12:45,880 --> 01:12:49,360 Speaker 1: your entrepreneurship and if let's let's let's talk about first 1260 01:12:49,400 --> 01:12:52,400 Speaker 1: of all, Um, you know we talked about acting. Now 1261 01:12:52,479 --> 01:12:57,320 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about Ladybug skincare. Yea, let's let's let's 1262 01:12:57,360 --> 01:13:01,479 Speaker 1: set to to Wanda's deemed itself as responsible for you know, okay, acne, 1263 01:13:01,960 --> 01:13:06,400 Speaker 1: dull skin and other skin impurities. It's a new cosmetic 1264 01:13:06,600 --> 01:13:10,120 Speaker 1: cosmetic line. What inspired you to do this? Because you're 1265 01:13:10,200 --> 01:13:13,400 Speaker 1: naturally attractive. You got good skin, Like I said, God 1266 01:13:13,479 --> 01:13:15,760 Speaker 1: gave it to you. Okay, I didn't have to work hard. 1267 01:13:15,920 --> 01:13:17,960 Speaker 1: You're the women that don't have to work hard for 1268 01:13:18,040 --> 01:13:21,240 Speaker 1: our face. Okay with her face all good? Okay, But 1269 01:13:21,439 --> 01:13:27,040 Speaker 1: everybody's not like you, Okay, Tamantha, right exactly exactly. Um. 1270 01:13:27,400 --> 01:13:30,080 Speaker 1: You know what, I've always been a person who didn't 1271 01:13:30,120 --> 01:13:34,760 Speaker 1: really drink water. I don't like drinking. I love, Oh 1272 01:13:34,840 --> 01:13:37,360 Speaker 1: my god, unless your heart it tastes like askering to. 1273 01:13:38,360 --> 01:13:42,320 Speaker 1: But I always wanted my skin to look amazing, right. Um. 1274 01:13:42,600 --> 01:13:45,400 Speaker 1: So I met with Miss Charlotte Wilson, who is the 1275 01:13:45,479 --> 01:13:49,599 Speaker 1: skin god like. She's incredible with skin like she does 1276 01:13:49,720 --> 01:13:53,840 Speaker 1: Porsche skin she does um, um wasn't a black China 1277 01:13:53,920 --> 01:13:58,360 Speaker 1: skin Who's entre skin is impeccable. Um, she does Lisa 1278 01:13:58,479 --> 01:14:03,519 Speaker 1: raised skin. Her skin is most tawless, uh, Cynthia Bailly. 1279 01:14:03,600 --> 01:14:07,479 Speaker 1: I mean she does everybody's skin. And then I met 1280 01:14:07,560 --> 01:14:09,280 Speaker 1: up with Miss Charlotte and I was like, I want 1281 01:14:09,360 --> 01:14:12,280 Speaker 1: my skin to look like like I don't have any 1282 01:14:12,320 --> 01:14:14,759 Speaker 1: makeup and I don't want to wear makeup like that anymore. 1283 01:14:14,960 --> 01:14:17,120 Speaker 1: And she was like, I got you. Um and she 1284 01:14:17,280 --> 01:14:19,400 Speaker 1: was like, Twanta, you have good skin because all like 1285 01:14:19,479 --> 01:14:21,960 Speaker 1: I said, I've always been into skin and I have 1286 01:14:22,120 --> 01:14:24,040 Speaker 1: skin and be like most women when you go to 1287 01:14:24,360 --> 01:14:26,200 Speaker 1: when you see a woman who has beautiful skin, you 1288 01:14:26,240 --> 01:14:29,479 Speaker 1: always compliment her like, oh my god, you skin is beautiful. Um. 1289 01:14:29,760 --> 01:14:32,200 Speaker 1: So she said let's do a line together, and I 1290 01:14:32,360 --> 01:14:34,280 Speaker 1: was like, oh my god. I felt so honored that 1291 01:14:34,760 --> 01:14:37,040 Speaker 1: she was willing to do a line with me because, 1292 01:14:37,160 --> 01:14:39,559 Speaker 1: like I said, she's a skin guy. Like that's amazing. 1293 01:14:39,680 --> 01:14:42,280 Speaker 1: Everybody wants to do a line with Miss Charlotte. Um 1294 01:14:42,439 --> 01:14:45,679 Speaker 1: so um. She sent me some samples of different soaps 1295 01:14:45,720 --> 01:14:50,840 Speaker 1: and different combinations of things, and um we we came 1296 01:14:50,920 --> 01:14:54,160 Speaker 1: up with um ages timeless so it's a it's an 1297 01:14:54,200 --> 01:14:58,840 Speaker 1: anti aging um skin care line. And I'm I'm a 1298 01:14:58,920 --> 01:15:03,120 Speaker 1: woman of a particular age now I'm past forty. So 1299 01:15:03,320 --> 01:15:06,400 Speaker 1: I used to have I used to I used to 1300 01:15:06,439 --> 01:15:09,120 Speaker 1: look like a panda bear like without bake up. I 1301 01:15:09,240 --> 01:15:11,000 Speaker 1: used to have dark circles gonna make my eyes. And 1302 01:15:11,040 --> 01:15:13,599 Speaker 1: I thought it was because I wasn't drinctly enough water, 1303 01:15:13,800 --> 01:15:16,960 Speaker 1: wasn't enough rest. But it was because my pigmentation and 1304 01:15:17,040 --> 01:15:19,120 Speaker 1: a little of it is that hereditary. So my dad 1305 01:15:19,280 --> 01:15:21,680 Speaker 1: used to have it. When he started using Ladybugs. Seme here, 1306 01:15:21,720 --> 01:15:24,439 Speaker 1: he doesn't have dark circles anymore. Okay, okay, stop it. 1307 01:15:25,520 --> 01:15:29,120 Speaker 1: That's my that's my curse right there, dark circle, you're 1308 01:15:29,160 --> 01:15:32,800 Speaker 1: telling me, don't get mad at you because you're boy, 1309 01:15:33,720 --> 01:15:36,960 Speaker 1: I'm gonna gonna make a purchase. That I'm gonna make 1310 01:15:37,000 --> 01:15:42,000 Speaker 1: a purchase. You said that ladybugs can't care, can give 1311 01:15:42,040 --> 01:15:46,840 Speaker 1: rid circle, dark circles. Okay, I'm stark circles and and 1312 01:15:47,000 --> 01:15:49,200 Speaker 1: and then it get rid of some of the fine 1313 01:15:49,400 --> 01:15:52,120 Speaker 1: lines and wrinkles, doesn't run your eyes. That happens after 1314 01:15:52,120 --> 01:15:55,800 Speaker 1: you become a particular age um. And then it reju 1315 01:15:55,920 --> 01:15:58,240 Speaker 1: and ate and it restores, and it takes away a 1316 01:15:58,320 --> 01:16:00,559 Speaker 1: layer of the dead skin that you've bring caring around 1317 01:16:00,600 --> 01:16:02,240 Speaker 1: for so long that you did not know that you 1318 01:16:02,320 --> 01:16:05,200 Speaker 1: were carrying around because you you know, you were exfoliating, 1319 01:16:05,240 --> 01:16:08,479 Speaker 1: but you weren't exfoliating properly with the right ingredients. Again, 1320 01:16:08,520 --> 01:16:12,000 Speaker 1: the ladybugs in't here is all natural? Yeah, because you 1321 01:16:12,040 --> 01:16:14,880 Speaker 1: know I used mirror. I used mirror, and you know 1322 01:16:14,960 --> 01:16:17,000 Speaker 1: when I used you know, and so you know, and 1323 01:16:17,040 --> 01:16:20,160 Speaker 1: that's expensive. Okay, So it's not a portion of It's 1324 01:16:20,160 --> 01:16:22,599 Speaker 1: not a question of money with me. It's right getting 1325 01:16:22,600 --> 01:16:25,439 Speaker 1: the right product that that you know, just kind of 1326 01:16:25,520 --> 01:16:27,519 Speaker 1: hold back some days, not years, just hold back some 1327 01:16:27,680 --> 01:16:29,479 Speaker 1: days off my face. That's all. I'm just trying to 1328 01:16:29,520 --> 01:16:31,840 Speaker 1: hold back some days. That's all to want. Okay. And 1329 01:16:31,920 --> 01:16:37,240 Speaker 1: you're telling me I'm talking to the ladybugs. Can just 1330 01:16:37,600 --> 01:16:40,040 Speaker 1: talking just we're gonna do. First of all, I'm gonna 1331 01:16:40,040 --> 01:16:41,720 Speaker 1: make an order. But but I got to get the 1332 01:16:41,760 --> 01:16:44,240 Speaker 1: word out. I'm not saying you don't have the word. Okay. 1333 01:16:44,600 --> 01:16:48,200 Speaker 1: I do news for every Friday, goes out at nine 1334 01:16:48,280 --> 01:16:51,320 Speaker 1: a m. Every Friday to ninety thousand of my fans. 1335 01:16:52,200 --> 01:16:56,679 Speaker 1: Everything every Friday. Like last week I had Yolanda Adams 1336 01:16:57,000 --> 01:17:00,519 Speaker 1: Husky Loads and Venus and Venus Williams Hub beauty line. 1337 01:17:00,560 --> 01:17:03,920 Speaker 1: I had Kelly Rowlands and I had Erica Campbell her 1338 01:17:04,000 --> 01:17:06,640 Speaker 1: Wig line in there. So every four, every week I 1339 01:17:06,760 --> 01:17:09,599 Speaker 1: feature four you know, it's free. First of all, it's free. 1340 01:17:09,680 --> 01:17:13,160 Speaker 1: Let's just later, and I feature four entrepreneurs. That's for 1341 01:17:13,240 --> 01:17:15,960 Speaker 1: my shots about you know, entrepreneurship and entertainment and so 1342 01:17:16,479 --> 01:17:18,599 Speaker 1: and so. I thought it would be cool to put 1343 01:17:18,760 --> 01:17:20,680 Speaker 1: you know, friends of mine, other people I didn't know. 1344 01:17:20,880 --> 01:17:24,280 Speaker 1: But your product is worth being it's the story being 1345 01:17:24,360 --> 01:17:26,600 Speaker 1: told out there. And so if you can get to 1346 01:17:26,720 --> 01:17:30,560 Speaker 1: me banner and a in a link or whatever you 1347 01:17:30,600 --> 01:17:32,439 Speaker 1: want to drive it to, if you want to do, 1348 01:17:32,520 --> 01:17:34,160 Speaker 1: if you want to say, or whatever you want to do, 1349 01:17:34,720 --> 01:17:37,640 Speaker 1: I would put it in my newsletter. No charge has 1350 01:17:37,720 --> 01:17:40,599 Speaker 1: never been a charge. It's not tied to a charge 1351 01:17:41,040 --> 01:17:44,559 Speaker 1: because Ladybucks can't care. First of all, has me as 1352 01:17:44,560 --> 01:17:47,360 Speaker 1: a customer right now, okay, And I want to just 1353 01:17:47,439 --> 01:17:50,160 Speaker 1: change them to wander. I want them foolish people. Okay. 1354 01:17:50,200 --> 01:17:53,760 Speaker 1: When I like something, I go my wife forgo cool boy. 1355 01:17:53,800 --> 01:18:00,360 Speaker 1: We just stopped buying stuff. Hey, I like what I like? Okay, yeah, 1356 01:18:01,000 --> 01:18:03,680 Speaker 1: it's gonna love it. I'm telling you I have so 1357 01:18:03,840 --> 01:18:07,479 Speaker 1: many success stories and it makes me smile because that's 1358 01:18:07,520 --> 01:18:09,640 Speaker 1: just doing your skin. That's one thing that you can 1359 01:18:09,760 --> 01:18:14,320 Speaker 1: take by yourself and what you're being the largest organ 1360 01:18:14,400 --> 01:18:15,960 Speaker 1: of your body and it just happens to be on 1361 01:18:16,040 --> 01:18:18,160 Speaker 1: the outside of your body. Why not make that one 1362 01:18:18,400 --> 01:18:23,760 Speaker 1: organ beautiful? You know, I'm so excited about Ladybugs skincare um. 1363 01:18:23,840 --> 01:18:26,800 Speaker 1: I use it, my family uses it. Tamar uses it, 1364 01:18:27,720 --> 01:18:30,960 Speaker 1: you know, right, and you already know Tamar the type 1365 01:18:30,960 --> 01:18:34,439 Speaker 1: of person. Let me think country behind. Everybody don't know 1366 01:18:34,479 --> 01:18:39,559 Speaker 1: how country is. Well, I'm gonna tell you this to one. 1367 01:18:39,800 --> 01:18:42,719 Speaker 1: You owe me a banner. You got me as a customer. 1368 01:18:44,360 --> 01:18:45,840 Speaker 1: I just want to first of all, thank you for 1369 01:18:45,920 --> 01:18:49,320 Speaker 1: coming on my show, because thank you for having everybody's 1370 01:18:49,360 --> 01:18:51,200 Speaker 1: doing my show. I feel so blest that I get 1371 01:18:51,240 --> 01:18:53,639 Speaker 1: a person like you on my show and other other 1372 01:18:53,760 --> 01:18:56,560 Speaker 1: talent that's coming on my show and hearing about my 1373 01:18:56,720 --> 01:18:59,200 Speaker 1: brand and hearing how I want to just tell that story, 1374 01:18:59,240 --> 01:19:01,599 Speaker 1: but but I was to promote their brands and promote 1375 01:19:01,680 --> 01:19:04,000 Speaker 1: what they're doing with their life. Besides the story that 1376 01:19:04,080 --> 01:19:08,080 Speaker 1: everybody knows you have an open break, you are an HBC, 1377 01:19:08,280 --> 01:19:12,240 Speaker 1: you grant, you are a memory of the divine node. 1378 01:19:13,600 --> 01:19:17,920 Speaker 1: And you are an entrepreneur, lady books can't care, and 1379 01:19:18,040 --> 01:19:23,040 Speaker 1: more importantly, you are an actress. And thank you for 1380 01:19:23,120 --> 01:19:25,240 Speaker 1: coming to my show to Wander Braxton. Thank you for 1381 01:19:26,640 --> 01:19:32,400 Speaker 1: this amazing I mean by so fast like I'm well, 1382 01:19:32,560 --> 01:19:34,639 Speaker 1: that means but you gotta give me that better, gotta 1383 01:19:34,680 --> 01:19:37,599 Speaker 1: give me that links. I take care of you. I will. 1384 01:19:37,640 --> 01:19:39,479 Speaker 1: I'm gonna call and make sure he sends it to you. 1385 01:19:39,600 --> 01:19:42,519 Speaker 1: I appreciate you. Stay safe now, Okay, thank you you too. 1386 01:19:42,640 --> 01:19:46,200 Speaker 1: Thank you. Look to your children's eyes to see the 1387 01:19:46,320 --> 01:19:50,080 Speaker 1: true magic of a forest. It's a storybook world for them. 1388 01:19:50,479 --> 01:19:53,400 Speaker 1: You look and see a tree. 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After all, wildfires 1410 01:21:03,720 --> 01:21:06,439 Speaker 1: can start anywhere, even in your neck of the woods. 1411 01:21:06,760 --> 01:21:09,320 Speaker 1: Go to Smokey Bear dot com to learn more about 1412 01:21:09,400 --> 01:21:12,240 Speaker 1: wildfire prevention. Brought to you by the U. S. Forest Service, 1413 01:21:12,439 --> 01:21:15,080 Speaker 1: your state Forrester, and the AD Council. My next guest. 1414 01:21:15,320 --> 01:21:18,959 Speaker 1: He's an h B c U graduate of Hampton University. 1415 01:21:19,240 --> 01:21:22,320 Speaker 1: He obtained his bachelor's degree in two thousand four, master's 1416 01:21:22,360 --> 01:21:25,840 Speaker 1: degree in two thousand five, followed by his PhD. He's 1417 01:21:25,840 --> 01:21:29,360 Speaker 1: a doctor, y'all. He has dedicated his professional career to education, 1418 01:21:29,720 --> 01:21:33,720 Speaker 1: specializing in serving schools and organizations that serve urban and 1419 01:21:33,840 --> 01:21:38,919 Speaker 1: culturally diverse communities. Teach, hustle, Inspire offers driven and passionate 1420 01:21:39,080 --> 01:21:43,479 Speaker 1: educators a transformatal a transformational experience in a way that 1421 01:21:43,760 --> 01:21:47,000 Speaker 1: is fun, engaging in life changing. Please work for the 1422 01:21:47,040 --> 01:21:50,759 Speaker 1: money made conversation for the very first time, Dr Sean Woodley, 1423 01:21:52,280 --> 01:21:55,280 Speaker 1: thank you so so much for having me. I'm excited 1424 01:21:55,320 --> 01:21:57,960 Speaker 1: to be here. I'm I tell you that. Yeah, everything 1425 01:21:58,120 --> 01:22:00,320 Speaker 1: right though, you know, you know I how to make 1426 01:22:00,320 --> 01:22:02,759 Speaker 1: sure I brought you, brought you the forefront, right doctor, 1427 01:22:02,920 --> 01:22:09,240 Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying. Man, very much appreciate that. Thank you, sir. Well, 1428 01:22:09,280 --> 01:22:11,439 Speaker 1: we're we're we're are yet right now in this in 1429 01:22:11,520 --> 01:22:13,720 Speaker 1: this in this country of America. We're yet right now, sir. 1430 01:22:14,880 --> 01:22:18,160 Speaker 1: I'm not too far from you here in Atlanta, Okay, great? Great? Um. 1431 01:22:18,560 --> 01:22:22,040 Speaker 1: You know education, I know I come from Houston, Texas, 1432 01:22:22,080 --> 01:22:25,120 Speaker 1: born in fifth ward. Uh. My degrees in the mathematics 1433 01:22:25,200 --> 01:22:28,360 Speaker 1: and my money and sociology, so I know they important 1434 01:22:28,400 --> 01:22:32,120 Speaker 1: of continued education. I always tell people who always tell 1435 01:22:32,160 --> 01:22:35,240 Speaker 1: young people just go to college and just just see 1436 01:22:35,280 --> 01:22:37,920 Speaker 1: what college has to offer to you. How it changed 1437 01:22:38,000 --> 01:22:40,600 Speaker 1: my life. Education changed my life. I would not be 1438 01:22:40,720 --> 01:22:44,120 Speaker 1: talking to you because when I came out of high school, Sean, 1439 01:22:44,240 --> 01:22:46,360 Speaker 1: I wanted to be a forklift driver and got a 1440 01:22:46,439 --> 01:22:48,759 Speaker 1: job as a forklif driver. That was my dream because 1441 01:22:48,800 --> 01:22:51,559 Speaker 1: that was those were my mentors. My mentors were guys 1442 01:22:51,600 --> 01:22:53,479 Speaker 1: who don't load the trucks. From I was fifteen, sixteen 1443 01:22:53,520 --> 01:22:55,439 Speaker 1: years old, I saw it. I went, wow, this is cool, 1444 01:22:55,760 --> 01:22:59,240 Speaker 1: and that stayed in my mind. Despite having my best friend, 1445 01:22:59,560 --> 01:23:02,000 Speaker 1: she Gret she went to Rice and graduated. My other 1446 01:23:02,080 --> 01:23:04,160 Speaker 1: best friends she went to Purdue and graduate. So it 1447 01:23:04,240 --> 01:23:06,000 Speaker 1: wasn't like I was. I was surrounded by a bunch 1448 01:23:06,040 --> 01:23:09,040 Speaker 1: of dummies. My whole little crew was smart and I 1449 01:23:09,160 --> 01:23:11,840 Speaker 1: was smart too, But I wanted to take the easy 1450 01:23:11,960 --> 01:23:14,800 Speaker 1: way out, a comfortable way out. I felt, you know, 1451 01:23:15,479 --> 01:23:17,599 Speaker 1: get to that, get to that finish line real quick. 1452 01:23:18,240 --> 01:23:20,519 Speaker 1: But but what But that wasn't the right finish line 1453 01:23:20,560 --> 01:23:23,000 Speaker 1: for me. So when we were talking about education, that's 1454 01:23:23,040 --> 01:23:25,320 Speaker 1: your passion, I just wanted to tee it up for 1455 01:23:25,640 --> 01:23:27,640 Speaker 1: how the type of conversation I'm gonna have with you 1456 01:23:27,680 --> 01:23:29,519 Speaker 1: and we're gonna go into a lot of things and 1457 01:23:29,600 --> 01:23:31,320 Speaker 1: these UH in this call we have today. But I 1458 01:23:31,360 --> 01:23:33,000 Speaker 1: want to let you know the guy you're talking to 1459 01:23:33,520 --> 01:23:36,800 Speaker 1: was the guy who who was was was not there. 1460 01:23:36,960 --> 01:23:39,560 Speaker 1: I was not that was not motivated to pursue a 1461 01:23:39,680 --> 01:23:43,840 Speaker 1: four year opportunity and academics and and and it changed 1462 01:23:43,880 --> 01:23:46,960 Speaker 1: my life. So talk to us about UH. Education and 1463 01:23:47,040 --> 01:23:54,000 Speaker 1: from your standpoint, I firmly believe that education and is 1464 01:23:54,240 --> 01:23:58,479 Speaker 1: just really it's a key that can unlock so many 1465 01:23:58,600 --> 01:24:02,759 Speaker 1: doors in so many different directions. One of the limiting 1466 01:24:02,880 --> 01:24:05,400 Speaker 1: things that I'm working very very hard for, particularly in 1467 01:24:05,520 --> 01:24:08,880 Speaker 1: urban and culturally diverse schools, as you mentioned, is exposure. 1468 01:24:09,600 --> 01:24:13,439 Speaker 1: We need to be sure that we the bright young 1469 01:24:13,600 --> 01:24:16,800 Speaker 1: scholars in these four walls, in the four walls of 1470 01:24:16,840 --> 01:24:20,120 Speaker 1: these classrooms across this country are being exposed so that 1471 01:24:20,320 --> 01:24:23,760 Speaker 1: they have something to shoot for, and education can do that. 1472 01:24:24,360 --> 01:24:26,880 Speaker 1: What are we exposing them to? What are we allowing 1473 01:24:27,000 --> 01:24:30,120 Speaker 1: them to see? And more importantly, what are we allowing 1474 01:24:30,200 --> 01:24:33,479 Speaker 1: them to see and how they think into that as 1475 01:24:33,720 --> 01:24:37,320 Speaker 1: it can be a contributing member to society. What are 1476 01:24:37,360 --> 01:24:39,559 Speaker 1: we showing them, what are we putting them and how 1477 01:24:39,680 --> 01:24:45,040 Speaker 1: does it connect to their everyday lives. Whether we understand 1478 01:24:45,160 --> 01:24:47,840 Speaker 1: the value and importance of that or not, it is 1479 01:24:48,120 --> 01:24:50,800 Speaker 1: absolutely critical. We need to make sure that we are 1480 01:24:50,840 --> 01:24:54,000 Speaker 1: showing these students what is possible. And that's why I 1481 01:24:54,080 --> 01:24:56,960 Speaker 1: work so hard so that they can see something to 1482 01:24:57,160 --> 01:25:00,680 Speaker 1: shoot for. Let that service the engine that rides them, 1483 01:25:00,920 --> 01:25:03,080 Speaker 1: whether it is that four year degree, whether it is 1484 01:25:03,080 --> 01:25:05,639 Speaker 1: that a two year degree, whether it is a trade, 1485 01:25:05,920 --> 01:25:11,200 Speaker 1: something beyond just going to do the quote unquote their minimum. 1486 01:25:11,360 --> 01:25:14,760 Speaker 1: And I making sense absolutely because I always tell people that, 1487 01:25:15,120 --> 01:25:18,120 Speaker 1: you know, you can't readport or degree. Okay, my degree 1488 01:25:18,160 --> 01:25:20,400 Speaker 1: in that wall. Nobody's gonna come back and say, hey man, 1489 01:25:20,479 --> 01:25:23,040 Speaker 1: you know some I'm gonna take that back. They can't 1490 01:25:23,040 --> 01:25:25,439 Speaker 1: do that. I earned that. You know you can. You 1491 01:25:25,520 --> 01:25:27,559 Speaker 1: can't call me stupid, you can't call me a dummy. 1492 01:25:27,840 --> 01:25:30,640 Speaker 1: It's right there. Okay, what story are you telling that? 1493 01:25:30,880 --> 01:25:33,000 Speaker 1: I've been recognized as a person who knows how to 1494 01:25:33,200 --> 01:25:37,120 Speaker 1: apply himself. I'm goal oriented, okay, and I know how 1495 01:25:37,200 --> 01:25:40,519 Speaker 1: to finish what I start. That's what the degree means 1496 01:25:40,800 --> 01:25:42,920 Speaker 1: to me. And when I talk about when listen to 1497 01:25:43,000 --> 01:25:46,080 Speaker 1: your passion is a passion that I didn't have because 1498 01:25:46,080 --> 01:25:49,000 Speaker 1: I did not understand And so and we know that 1499 01:25:49,280 --> 01:25:52,320 Speaker 1: the stop gap or the the or the jump off 1500 01:25:52,400 --> 01:25:55,519 Speaker 1: point in this game of competition that we call in 1501 01:25:55,560 --> 01:25:58,400 Speaker 1: this country we call America is education because it's not equal. 1502 01:25:59,000 --> 01:26:02,360 Speaker 1: Education not equal, and so which leads to a different story. 1503 01:26:02,400 --> 01:26:05,040 Speaker 1: And I think that private sect, private sector should come 1504 01:26:05,080 --> 01:26:07,680 Speaker 1: in and stop trying that we should stop trying to 1505 01:26:07,720 --> 01:26:10,439 Speaker 1: get the government to fix the situation. I feel, I 1506 01:26:10,479 --> 01:26:13,840 Speaker 1: believe the sexual sector come in because they're the ones 1507 01:26:13,920 --> 01:26:18,000 Speaker 1: who seek our money in movies, seek our money, android 1508 01:26:18,080 --> 01:26:21,559 Speaker 1: phones they seek our money, and technology they seek our money, 1509 01:26:21,600 --> 01:26:24,000 Speaker 1: and grocery stores they seek our money in so many 1510 01:26:24,040 --> 01:26:27,040 Speaker 1: different ways. But they don't return that money to us 1511 01:26:27,479 --> 01:26:30,639 Speaker 1: when it comes to lifestyle, when it comes to education 1512 01:26:31,040 --> 01:26:35,519 Speaker 1: making a difference in our community, because they they've they've, they've, they've, 1513 01:26:35,560 --> 01:26:38,920 Speaker 1: they've they've, they've developed a nice system, they keep the money. 1514 01:26:39,320 --> 01:26:43,160 Speaker 1: They don't help out anybody but themselves, okay, And then 1515 01:26:43,200 --> 01:26:45,120 Speaker 1: they said the government is supposed to do that. So 1516 01:26:45,520 --> 01:26:47,519 Speaker 1: so that's one of the things that we know when 1517 01:26:47,560 --> 01:26:50,320 Speaker 1: I look at this change in our community is civil unrest, 1518 01:26:50,400 --> 01:26:53,679 Speaker 1: the pandemic. You know, I'm sitting down trying to create 1519 01:26:53,680 --> 01:26:57,000 Speaker 1: an agenda, a plan of action, and the plan of 1520 01:26:57,080 --> 01:27:00,439 Speaker 1: action is the old way ain't gonna work for the 1521 01:27:00,560 --> 01:27:03,760 Speaker 1: new way. So we have to hit a new plan 1522 01:27:04,080 --> 01:27:06,160 Speaker 1: in place for the new way to even have a 1523 01:27:06,240 --> 01:27:09,519 Speaker 1: shot at working. And it has to include the private sector. 1524 01:27:10,120 --> 01:27:12,600 Speaker 1: And that's that's a that's a statement from me. And 1525 01:27:12,680 --> 01:27:15,000 Speaker 1: when I talked to me, to worldly people like you, 1526 01:27:15,280 --> 01:27:17,639 Speaker 1: educated people like you, who know what I'm talking about 1527 01:27:17,680 --> 01:27:21,080 Speaker 1: when I say education is not equal because it's tied 1528 01:27:21,160 --> 01:27:25,360 Speaker 1: to it's tied to property tax. You know, it's tied 1529 01:27:25,400 --> 01:27:27,840 Speaker 1: to the lot of program in each state, which doesn't 1530 01:27:27,880 --> 01:27:30,519 Speaker 1: really do anything for education, like they say, because most 1531 01:27:30,600 --> 01:27:32,280 Speaker 1: of the program goes most of the money goes to 1532 01:27:32,320 --> 01:27:34,600 Speaker 1: the company that sets up a lot of and so 1533 01:27:35,080 --> 01:27:39,320 Speaker 1: and so these things drive me. I've been fortunate. Man. 1534 01:27:39,400 --> 01:27:40,840 Speaker 1: You can google my name and there's a lot of 1535 01:27:40,920 --> 01:27:42,439 Speaker 1: things come up about me, and so you have you 1536 01:27:42,479 --> 01:27:44,800 Speaker 1: have an image of who I am or idea who 1537 01:27:44,840 --> 01:27:49,840 Speaker 1: I am? Who is Dr Shaun Woodley? Let me tell 1538 01:27:49,880 --> 01:27:54,920 Speaker 1: you something, Dr Sean Woodley is. I'm a husband, i 1539 01:27:55,080 --> 01:27:58,360 Speaker 1: am a father, I am a believer, and I am 1540 01:27:58,400 --> 01:28:01,680 Speaker 1: an educator. I do a lot of things under that 1541 01:28:02,040 --> 01:28:05,560 Speaker 1: education umbrella, but it all boils that back down to 1542 01:28:06,160 --> 01:28:11,240 Speaker 1: being an educator. I get to leverage my creativity um 1543 01:28:11,439 --> 01:28:14,960 Speaker 1: in what I do, and that has that fuels my 1544 01:28:15,200 --> 01:28:19,920 Speaker 1: passion for entrepreneurship. I've been able to uniquely combine the 1545 01:28:20,080 --> 01:28:24,360 Speaker 1: field of education and entrepreneurship to not only do what 1546 01:28:24,640 --> 01:28:28,640 Speaker 1: I love, but serve others while doing it. It's like 1547 01:28:29,000 --> 01:28:33,519 Speaker 1: the it's it's like a beautiful mix that allows me 1548 01:28:33,720 --> 01:28:37,320 Speaker 1: to be who I authentically am at this while at 1549 01:28:37,360 --> 01:28:40,719 Speaker 1: the same time giving back and contributing to society, making 1550 01:28:40,760 --> 01:28:44,920 Speaker 1: a difference in the lives of teachers who evidently make 1551 01:28:44,960 --> 01:28:47,240 Speaker 1: a difference in the lives of their students. That that 1552 01:28:47,600 --> 01:28:50,720 Speaker 1: is who I am, and that is how I think. 1553 01:28:50,800 --> 01:28:52,800 Speaker 1: That is what I believe God to give to me 1554 01:28:53,160 --> 01:28:55,720 Speaker 1: is to give to the world. Right. You know, when 1555 01:28:55,760 --> 01:28:58,120 Speaker 1: I when I look at your HBCU grad I said 1556 01:28:58,120 --> 01:29:00,920 Speaker 1: that your curtis Hampton State University. You know, just tell 1557 01:29:00,920 --> 01:29:03,800 Speaker 1: you this, doctor, Dr Sean. I get a lot of 1558 01:29:03,960 --> 01:29:07,880 Speaker 1: HBCU Hampton guests on my show. I think it because 1559 01:29:07,960 --> 01:29:10,960 Speaker 1: of the executive producer of the show. She graduated from 1560 01:29:11,040 --> 01:29:15,120 Speaker 1: Hampton University. I think, really she graduated and I seem 1561 01:29:15,200 --> 01:29:20,200 Speaker 1: to get a lot of I'm not disappointed. At end 1562 01:29:20,240 --> 01:29:22,879 Speaker 1: of the guests I'm just telling you straight out standing 1563 01:29:23,040 --> 01:29:25,120 Speaker 1: guests like you come on my show from Happy University. 1564 01:29:25,439 --> 01:29:29,960 Speaker 1: But I think I think she's using my brand to 1565 01:29:30,120 --> 01:29:33,920 Speaker 1: promote the brand of Hampton University, which is an outstand 1566 01:29:34,040 --> 01:29:37,240 Speaker 1: at HBCU school. So tell us about your HBCU experience 1567 01:29:37,280 --> 01:29:41,080 Speaker 1: and the value of attending a school like HBCU, school 1568 01:29:41,240 --> 01:29:45,200 Speaker 1: like Hampton University. Let me tell you something. Hampton University 1569 01:29:45,280 --> 01:29:48,560 Speaker 1: is my family. I stand by it, and it was 1570 01:29:49,200 --> 01:29:52,040 Speaker 1: absolutely one of the best decisions I've ever made. The 1571 01:29:52,160 --> 01:29:56,000 Speaker 1: reason that I ended up at Hampton or I grew 1572 01:29:56,080 --> 01:30:00,880 Speaker 1: up in New York and my father uh raising us 1573 01:30:01,080 --> 01:30:04,560 Speaker 1: in the church. He was a musician to Hampton University 1574 01:30:04,640 --> 01:30:08,559 Speaker 1: every year during the summer has Ministers and Musicians conference 1575 01:30:08,680 --> 01:30:11,360 Speaker 1: that my father attends all the time. He's the one 1576 01:30:11,479 --> 01:30:14,920 Speaker 1: that told me about Hampton University. And this goes back 1577 01:30:14,960 --> 01:30:17,960 Speaker 1: to what you mentioned earlier about kind of why how 1578 01:30:18,120 --> 01:30:22,559 Speaker 1: we can promote the idea of education to the youth. 1579 01:30:23,400 --> 01:30:28,200 Speaker 1: I was never told in high school about HBCUs, about 1580 01:30:29,160 --> 01:30:33,320 Speaker 1: what schools like Hampton A and t Spellman Morehouse. I 1581 01:30:33,360 --> 01:30:36,640 Speaker 1: would never exposed to those things other than what my 1582 01:30:36,920 --> 01:30:39,920 Speaker 1: family told me. And I'm so glad that my dad 1583 01:30:40,040 --> 01:30:42,719 Speaker 1: put that battery in my back at a young age 1584 01:30:43,200 --> 01:30:46,000 Speaker 1: to be aware of what Hampton was doing and how 1585 01:30:46,080 --> 01:30:49,000 Speaker 1: it could benefit me. Uh. He took me down there 1586 01:30:49,080 --> 01:30:51,040 Speaker 1: to take the tour of the campus. We went as 1587 01:30:51,080 --> 01:30:54,200 Speaker 1: a family, my mom, my brothers, and after that we 1588 01:30:54,520 --> 01:30:57,800 Speaker 1: you know, I have two uh younger siblings actually three 1589 01:30:57,840 --> 01:31:01,160 Speaker 1: excuse me, in that far HBCU attend and or graduates. 1590 01:31:01,479 --> 01:31:04,920 Speaker 1: So like, this is something that I feel I was 1591 01:31:05,040 --> 01:31:07,720 Speaker 1: able to set an example for them because of what 1592 01:31:07,960 --> 01:31:11,800 Speaker 1: my dad and my mom showed me and my as 1593 01:31:11,880 --> 01:31:17,080 Speaker 1: we like to say, my matriculation that wonderful, you know, 1594 01:31:17,439 --> 01:31:20,479 Speaker 1: it was. It was life altering for me, if I 1595 01:31:20,560 --> 01:31:24,000 Speaker 1: could say, because I mean what I've learned there, who 1596 01:31:24,160 --> 01:31:28,560 Speaker 1: I met, it was it was a microcosm of just 1597 01:31:29,000 --> 01:31:35,080 Speaker 1: really love and education, um that you yearn for that 1598 01:31:35,320 --> 01:31:40,000 Speaker 1: you cannot get at another p w Y you can't 1599 01:31:40,040 --> 01:31:43,519 Speaker 1: get that. I ask any HBCU crab and they'll tell 1600 01:31:43,520 --> 01:31:46,639 Speaker 1: you about that family element that you just you can 1601 01:31:46,840 --> 01:31:51,000 Speaker 1: you can imitate, but you can't duplicate that. I love it. 1602 01:31:51,200 --> 01:31:54,360 Speaker 1: I love it. I'm talking to my man, Dr Sean Woodley. 1603 01:31:54,720 --> 01:31:58,720 Speaker 1: He is a half the universe. The hbc U two 1604 01:31:58,800 --> 01:32:04,559 Speaker 1: thousand four bachelor is good. Huh. Two thousand four bachelor's degree, 1605 01:32:04,800 --> 01:32:08,200 Speaker 1: two thousand five master's degree, then followed up with his PhD. 1606 01:32:08,280 --> 01:32:10,639 Speaker 1: We're gonna be back and more, talking about his brand 1607 01:32:10,680 --> 01:32:13,400 Speaker 1: of education, his books, all those great things, and first 1608 01:32:13,400 --> 01:32:16,240 Speaker 1: of all, he know now about money main covers. You 1609 01:32:16,240 --> 01:32:18,280 Speaker 1: know a lot of people call my show. They call, 1610 01:32:18,439 --> 01:32:20,000 Speaker 1: you know, people tell them it's to show the call. 1611 01:32:20,240 --> 01:32:23,160 Speaker 1: But once they get here, I talked, they hear my past. 1612 01:32:23,880 --> 01:32:26,400 Speaker 1: His brother right here, he's on my list now. So 1613 01:32:26,520 --> 01:32:29,200 Speaker 1: when I called, when he when he called me to 1614 01:32:29,320 --> 01:32:34,640 Speaker 1: be on this show, our absolutely with a Okay. They 1615 01:32:34,680 --> 01:32:37,240 Speaker 1: took me seven years to get my degree. Uh, I 1616 01:32:37,360 --> 01:32:39,040 Speaker 1: was arrogant. I thought I'd be in and out. But 1617 01:32:39,360 --> 01:32:41,360 Speaker 1: what I did when I went to college, I was 1618 01:32:41,439 --> 01:32:43,280 Speaker 1: just trying. I'm gonna tell you something, Dr Sean. I 1619 01:32:43,400 --> 01:32:44,760 Speaker 1: was just trying to go to I was trying to 1620 01:32:44,800 --> 01:32:48,120 Speaker 1: find an easy degree. Okay, the first four and a 1621 01:32:48,120 --> 01:32:50,360 Speaker 1: half yield. I was looking for the easy degree. My 1622 01:32:50,479 --> 01:32:53,439 Speaker 1: friends go, he's an easy teacher. He's an easy teacher. 1623 01:32:53,479 --> 01:32:55,840 Speaker 1: I went to and when they had no symbtoms of 1624 01:32:55,920 --> 01:32:57,560 Speaker 1: what they had to do with my degree plan, I 1625 01:32:57,640 --> 01:33:00,720 Speaker 1: was trying to find easy teachers. I found them all, 1626 01:33:00,720 --> 01:33:03,120 Speaker 1: and then I found one easy teaching in physics that 1627 01:33:03,240 --> 01:33:07,400 Speaker 1: gave me an elf that woked me up. That woked 1628 01:33:07,400 --> 01:33:09,240 Speaker 1: me up because they realized that you have to work. 1629 01:33:09,479 --> 01:33:12,479 Speaker 1: Life is about working hard and being consistent. And when 1630 01:33:12,479 --> 01:33:15,280 Speaker 1: I look at your brand, when you talk about education, 1631 01:33:15,400 --> 01:33:17,760 Speaker 1: you have to be consistent and you have to create 1632 01:33:17,800 --> 01:33:20,760 Speaker 1: a model that people can believe it and can use 1633 01:33:21,200 --> 01:33:23,640 Speaker 1: to teach other people. Talk about your brain a little bit. 1634 01:33:23,720 --> 01:33:30,080 Speaker 1: Dr Sean Sure, Sure, I'm I am preach and teach, teach, hustle, 1635 01:33:30,160 --> 01:33:33,599 Speaker 1: inspire and and here's what it means. Teach, hustle, inspire 1636 01:33:33,920 --> 01:33:37,519 Speaker 1: is not just three particular words that I randomly put 1637 01:33:37,600 --> 01:33:40,479 Speaker 1: together and threw it up as a logo. They have 1638 01:33:41,200 --> 01:33:44,719 Speaker 1: intention behind each of those. When I talk about teach, 1639 01:33:44,920 --> 01:33:48,280 Speaker 1: it's about how we unlock our students and our own 1640 01:33:48,560 --> 01:33:52,759 Speaker 1: intellectual treasure. That's what it means. How can we create 1641 01:33:52,960 --> 01:33:57,880 Speaker 1: transformative learning experiences for ourselves, for our students in our classroom. 1642 01:33:58,280 --> 01:34:01,559 Speaker 1: That hustle park, That's that's my Favorit reports that hustle 1643 01:34:01,680 --> 01:34:03,800 Speaker 1: is about how we can't stop that won't stop learning. 1644 01:34:03,880 --> 01:34:06,680 Speaker 1: Mr McDonald see here, and it kind of has that 1645 01:34:06,960 --> 01:34:10,640 Speaker 1: nineties dd bad boy vibe twins to it just a 1646 01:34:10,760 --> 01:34:13,519 Speaker 1: little bit. That's that's my personality in there, in there 1647 01:34:13,520 --> 01:34:16,519 Speaker 1: a little bit. But how do we keep how do 1648 01:34:16,640 --> 01:34:18,800 Speaker 1: we stay on top of the current research, How do 1649 01:34:18,880 --> 01:34:20,960 Speaker 1: we stay on top of what we need to know 1650 01:34:21,880 --> 01:34:26,759 Speaker 1: to continue because see, education don't stop, Education does not stop. 1651 01:34:26,960 --> 01:34:29,600 Speaker 1: How do we continue to learn to be that the 1652 01:34:29,640 --> 01:34:32,320 Speaker 1: best we can for ourselves and our students and that 1653 01:34:32,479 --> 01:34:36,760 Speaker 1: inspire it means to spread love and likely what we 1654 01:34:36,880 --> 01:34:40,360 Speaker 1: do with educators, that can be a thankless profession. Sometimes 1655 01:34:40,720 --> 01:34:43,760 Speaker 1: with the inequities in the curriculums that we see, with 1656 01:34:43,880 --> 01:34:48,160 Speaker 1: the inequities and distribution of funds, we sometimes we feel 1657 01:34:48,240 --> 01:34:50,160 Speaker 1: like we're all we have. So we have to be 1658 01:34:50,320 --> 01:34:53,280 Speaker 1: sure that we're spreading that love and like to one another, 1659 01:34:53,479 --> 01:34:56,600 Speaker 1: pouring back into ourselves and taking care of ourselves so 1660 01:34:56,720 --> 01:34:58,840 Speaker 1: that we can take care of our families. You can't 1661 01:34:58,960 --> 01:35:02,840 Speaker 1: give from what out that. It's really amazing when I 1662 01:35:03,120 --> 01:35:07,000 Speaker 1: when I think about it, you know, when we still 1663 01:35:07,080 --> 01:35:11,120 Speaker 1: talk about unequal education and we still talk about, you know, 1664 01:35:11,320 --> 01:35:16,000 Speaker 1: denying people an opportunity to get an equal education, and 1665 01:35:16,080 --> 01:35:18,360 Speaker 1: that's usually tied to the community that you grow up 1666 01:35:18,400 --> 01:35:21,519 Speaker 1: in and you're in Atlanta in the South, and you 1667 01:35:21,640 --> 01:35:24,360 Speaker 1: know that that what you really was the reason we 1668 01:35:24,439 --> 01:35:28,320 Speaker 1: have HBCUs because it was a time where the southern 1669 01:35:28,360 --> 01:35:30,439 Speaker 1: schools wouldn't let a black person in the school and 1670 01:35:30,479 --> 01:35:34,600 Speaker 1: then the northern school headquarters or limitations. So it was 1671 01:35:34,640 --> 01:35:37,320 Speaker 1: out of necessity that we had to create these hbc 1672 01:35:37,560 --> 01:35:41,160 Speaker 1: used which are now the backbone of education, especially for 1673 01:35:41,160 --> 01:35:44,280 Speaker 1: African American success stores in this country today. That's one 1674 01:35:44,320 --> 01:35:47,280 Speaker 1: of the reasons why I take the time to be 1675 01:35:47,439 --> 01:35:51,400 Speaker 1: able to articulate the value and the need. Now when 1676 01:35:51,439 --> 01:35:53,479 Speaker 1: you talk about education and you you you broke down 1677 01:35:53,560 --> 01:35:56,479 Speaker 1: the whole teach, hustle, inspiral, what is it all about? 1678 01:35:56,720 --> 01:35:58,960 Speaker 1: But how did they come about? You know what? What 1679 01:35:59,120 --> 01:36:02,280 Speaker 1: the what? What? What Launch did? Though? Dr Sean? What 1680 01:36:02,479 --> 01:36:07,040 Speaker 1: Launch did? That came from a need for me to 1681 01:36:07,880 --> 01:36:11,519 Speaker 1: try and find a unique and creative way to pour 1682 01:36:11,600 --> 01:36:16,320 Speaker 1: into the lives of educators and give back. I am. 1683 01:36:16,560 --> 01:36:20,880 Speaker 1: I'm a speaker and consultant and you know all in 1684 01:36:21,040 --> 01:36:23,920 Speaker 1: the under the umbrella of educating that is that is 1685 01:36:24,000 --> 01:36:28,439 Speaker 1: what I do. I wanted to find something that could 1686 01:36:28,560 --> 01:36:32,519 Speaker 1: connect us in the education world, something especially those of 1687 01:36:32,640 --> 01:36:35,479 Speaker 1: us that serve in urban and culturally diverse communities because 1688 01:36:35,560 --> 01:36:39,760 Speaker 1: there are specific challenges that we are simply at a 1689 01:36:39,840 --> 01:36:44,400 Speaker 1: fundamental level not prepared to deal with. And again it's 1690 01:36:44,439 --> 01:36:47,080 Speaker 1: not because something is wrong, it's just that we are 1691 01:36:47,160 --> 01:36:51,720 Speaker 1: not prepared. So I created this with the mind with 1692 01:36:51,840 --> 01:36:56,320 Speaker 1: the mindset of how can I help prepare dedicated and 1693 01:36:56,560 --> 01:37:01,760 Speaker 1: talented educators to face the lenges that can arise in 1694 01:37:02,040 --> 01:37:05,960 Speaker 1: urban and culturally diverse communities so that we can now 1695 01:37:06,160 --> 01:37:09,800 Speaker 1: move this agenda forward and balance these scales a little bit. 1696 01:37:10,320 --> 01:37:14,280 Speaker 1: But it really just came from my desire to what 1697 01:37:14,520 --> 01:37:18,120 Speaker 1: to serve, to want to unite and start a movement, 1698 01:37:18,360 --> 01:37:20,920 Speaker 1: and I just it's it's not something that I just 1699 01:37:21,080 --> 01:37:24,479 Speaker 1: thought of one particular day to teach hustle inspire kind 1700 01:37:24,479 --> 01:37:28,000 Speaker 1: of it seems like it came out of nowhere. But 1701 01:37:28,120 --> 01:37:32,679 Speaker 1: what you're seeing are the results of years, years of research, 1702 01:37:33,479 --> 01:37:39,479 Speaker 1: years of practice, and years of trial error, failing, fail again, 1703 01:37:39,680 --> 01:37:42,960 Speaker 1: fail forward, fail some more, try it again. That's what 1704 01:37:43,120 --> 01:37:46,040 Speaker 1: you're seeing now are the results of that. And this 1705 01:37:46,240 --> 01:37:49,280 Speaker 1: is just the beginning. That's that's powerful words UM and 1706 01:37:49,400 --> 01:37:52,120 Speaker 1: so those are some of the when you say obstacles, 1707 01:37:52,200 --> 01:37:54,200 Speaker 1: you know it's one of the course over to me, 1708 01:37:54,880 --> 01:38:01,759 Speaker 1: ums are the obstacles, Uh, disbelievers are obstacles yourself, sometimes 1709 01:38:01,880 --> 01:38:05,799 Speaker 1: doubting whether it is this will be received. What exactly 1710 01:38:05,840 --> 01:38:10,480 Speaker 1: are the obstacles that you're talking about. Some of the obstacles, 1711 01:38:10,880 --> 01:38:16,800 Speaker 1: UM definitely do come in the form of self sabotage 1712 01:38:17,800 --> 01:38:22,120 Speaker 1: and questioning whether or not you are the one that 1713 01:38:22,280 --> 01:38:25,280 Speaker 1: should be doing this. As far as t hustle inspire, 1714 01:38:25,640 --> 01:38:30,240 Speaker 1: inspire is concerned that that can the obstacles can start 1715 01:38:30,360 --> 01:38:33,320 Speaker 1: from within. And if I am not careful, if I 1716 01:38:33,400 --> 01:38:36,960 Speaker 1: am not emotionally aware enough to examine that it is 1717 01:38:37,200 --> 01:38:41,320 Speaker 1: nothing more than just self sabotage and that I can overcome, 1718 01:38:41,400 --> 01:38:45,360 Speaker 1: that it can be something that consumes me. But my 1719 01:38:45,640 --> 01:38:49,080 Speaker 1: passion and desire and understanding to know that I'm called 1720 01:38:49,280 --> 01:38:53,360 Speaker 1: to do this outweighs those obstacles and makes them speed 1721 01:38:53,439 --> 01:38:57,519 Speaker 1: bumps at the post hurdles. So now what I can 1722 01:38:57,640 --> 01:39:00,880 Speaker 1: do is with the understand thing that and not to 1723 01:39:00,960 --> 01:39:04,160 Speaker 1: get churchy on you. But God doesn't call to qualify, 1724 01:39:04,280 --> 01:39:07,840 Speaker 1: He qualifies the call. I understand that this is a 1725 01:39:07,960 --> 01:39:10,920 Speaker 1: mission for me, and now I'm growing, and that as 1726 01:39:11,000 --> 01:39:12,680 Speaker 1: long as I stay true to who I am and 1727 01:39:12,800 --> 01:39:15,160 Speaker 1: what the Good Lord has for me, I can't tell us, 1728 01:39:15,479 --> 01:39:17,120 Speaker 1: Oh no, you won't, you won't. That's why I set 1729 01:39:17,200 --> 01:39:20,720 Speaker 1: up this show. My friend is passionate driven, and the 1730 01:39:20,840 --> 01:39:24,120 Speaker 1: information that I give through my faith and through my passion, 1731 01:39:24,240 --> 01:39:27,280 Speaker 1: I educate people who listen and follow my brand. So 1732 01:39:27,439 --> 01:39:29,680 Speaker 1: we're on the same page. Now, tell us about your 1733 01:39:29,760 --> 01:39:34,760 Speaker 1: art coming um conference for urban educators. Sure. Sure. I 1734 01:39:35,280 --> 01:39:40,400 Speaker 1: wanted to create a unique experience called the super Teachers Summit. 1735 01:39:40,880 --> 01:39:43,800 Speaker 1: And what happens is this is going to be a 1736 01:39:43,920 --> 01:39:47,560 Speaker 1: unique online virtual event. We we you know, we have 1737 01:39:47,720 --> 01:39:53,120 Speaker 1: to be cautious with everything happening coronavirus wise, about large 1738 01:39:53,200 --> 01:39:56,800 Speaker 1: gatherings and so forth, but that still doesn't put a 1739 01:39:56,920 --> 01:39:58,840 Speaker 1: stop on the work that needs to be done because 1740 01:39:58,960 --> 01:40:02,000 Speaker 1: come August, except Timber, there are still children that are 1741 01:40:02,040 --> 01:40:04,479 Speaker 1: going to need to be educated. So I wanted to 1742 01:40:04,600 --> 01:40:09,240 Speaker 1: come up with a unique way to garner educators attention 1743 01:40:09,400 --> 01:40:12,240 Speaker 1: to help solve some of the problems that they will 1744 01:40:12,360 --> 01:40:15,680 Speaker 1: inevitably face. And I created this unique event to be 1745 01:40:15,760 --> 01:40:22,240 Speaker 1: an online, interactive, virtual experience, more than just someone sitting 1746 01:40:22,280 --> 01:40:25,679 Speaker 1: in front of a screen and then now alright, everything 1747 01:40:25,800 --> 01:40:27,880 Speaker 1: is going in one ear and out of the other. 1748 01:40:28,360 --> 01:40:31,160 Speaker 1: I wanted to make this a little bit more than 1749 01:40:31,320 --> 01:40:36,280 Speaker 1: simply just your average teacher conference, if you will, And 1750 01:40:36,439 --> 01:40:40,160 Speaker 1: so I I gave it a theme. I embedded some 1751 01:40:40,280 --> 01:40:43,000 Speaker 1: of the research and some phenomenal speakers that I know 1752 01:40:43,160 --> 01:40:46,080 Speaker 1: of that are really doing the work in this field. 1753 01:40:46,479 --> 01:40:48,880 Speaker 1: And I'm putting together what I know will be a 1754 01:40:49,120 --> 01:40:54,559 Speaker 1: Dynamites event in August. So is there a set date 1755 01:40:54,640 --> 01:40:58,880 Speaker 1: for August yet or just August? Still planning, still planning. 1756 01:40:58,920 --> 01:41:01,040 Speaker 1: It's going to be the first weekend in Orgust. Do 1757 01:41:01,040 --> 01:41:01,960 Speaker 1: you want to make sure I want to be a 1758 01:41:02,040 --> 01:41:04,040 Speaker 1: part of that. Whatever I can do to promote it 1759 01:41:04,080 --> 01:41:06,880 Speaker 1: through my social or my newsletter goes a weekly every 1760 01:41:06,960 --> 01:41:10,160 Speaker 1: Friday at nine am, I'll make you're part of that conversation. 1761 01:41:10,439 --> 01:41:11,639 Speaker 1: Before I was a couple of things. But I want 1762 01:41:11,640 --> 01:41:13,600 Speaker 1: to talk to about before we leaves. I wanted I 1763 01:41:13,760 --> 01:41:16,559 Speaker 1: did not read your best selling book MC means Move 1764 01:41:16,680 --> 01:41:19,559 Speaker 1: the class, How the spark engagement and motivation and urban 1765 01:41:19,640 --> 01:41:22,559 Speaker 1: and culturally diverse classroom? Tell us about that? And then 1766 01:41:22,560 --> 01:41:25,000 Speaker 1: I also want to close and response from you about 1767 01:41:25,040 --> 01:41:29,120 Speaker 1: what's going on in America right now. Okay, absolutely, the 1768 01:41:29,600 --> 01:41:33,360 Speaker 1: book for me came from my experiences teaching. I spent 1769 01:41:33,479 --> 01:41:38,640 Speaker 1: ten years teaching in urban schools, and while doing that, 1770 01:41:39,320 --> 01:41:42,560 Speaker 1: because I was I knew that there were things that 1771 01:41:42,600 --> 01:41:44,880 Speaker 1: I wanted to do. I had a side hustle at 1772 01:41:44,920 --> 01:41:48,160 Speaker 1: the DJ. So literally Ms McDonald, I would pull up 1773 01:41:48,200 --> 01:41:51,000 Speaker 1: to the schoolyard and teach during the day and being 1774 01:41:51,040 --> 01:41:52,920 Speaker 1: the club at night with my turn tables in the 1775 01:41:53,320 --> 01:41:57,320 Speaker 1: literally and it was it was so fun. Yeah, I mean, 1776 01:41:57,400 --> 01:42:02,240 Speaker 1: you talk about parties, club weddings, bar miths was barbecues. 1777 01:42:02,320 --> 01:42:04,880 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter if they had if they were paying 1778 01:42:04,960 --> 01:42:08,800 Speaker 1: and needed music services. I was in there. And so 1779 01:42:09,479 --> 01:42:12,240 Speaker 1: what I began to notice is that I was growing 1780 01:42:12,960 --> 01:42:17,800 Speaker 1: as a DJ and growing as an educator simultaneously, and 1781 01:42:18,120 --> 01:42:25,680 Speaker 1: some coincidental not my coincidental, some emerging commonalities started to 1782 01:42:25,920 --> 01:42:29,719 Speaker 1: really make a way about both professions, about being a teacher, 1783 01:42:30,160 --> 01:42:34,200 Speaker 1: about being in DJ, and so really that that mc see, 1784 01:42:34,400 --> 01:42:36,519 Speaker 1: you know, back in the day when I grew, I 1785 01:42:36,640 --> 01:42:39,000 Speaker 1: grew up on Long Island and Eric being rock camp 1786 01:42:40,040 --> 01:42:44,479 Speaker 1: had from Eric B as president the song um excuse 1787 01:42:44,520 --> 01:42:47,360 Speaker 1: me um, Eric B as president, not second verse where 1788 01:42:47,400 --> 01:42:51,040 Speaker 1: our cam talks about Eric B on the cut scratching 1789 01:42:51,080 --> 01:42:54,920 Speaker 1: the medicine no mistakes allowed, because to me MC means 1790 01:42:55,120 --> 01:42:58,840 Speaker 1: moved the crowd and that line always stuck to me. 1791 01:42:59,320 --> 01:43:01,800 Speaker 1: It really because what stands out about that is what 1792 01:43:02,000 --> 01:43:05,280 Speaker 1: rock Him was telling us is that his his role 1793 01:43:05,760 --> 01:43:08,240 Speaker 1: as an m C it's it's not just a position, 1794 01:43:08,280 --> 01:43:12,640 Speaker 1: it's a responsibility. Mr McDonald. That's that's my responsibility to 1795 01:43:12,720 --> 01:43:15,280 Speaker 1: move this crowd. So I took that and and with 1796 01:43:15,560 --> 01:43:19,240 Speaker 1: that same mindset, it's my responsibility to move this class 1797 01:43:19,960 --> 01:43:23,519 Speaker 1: and as a DJ, as a as a teacher. You know, 1798 01:43:23,680 --> 01:43:27,000 Speaker 1: in both roles, I'm a motivator. I am the reason 1799 01:43:27,320 --> 01:43:29,640 Speaker 1: that you're going to in this club dance, or I'm 1800 01:43:29,680 --> 01:43:32,760 Speaker 1: the reason in this classroom you're going to learn. In 1801 01:43:33,000 --> 01:43:37,600 Speaker 1: both roles, I curate specific content so that when in 1802 01:43:37,720 --> 01:43:40,440 Speaker 1: the timing of winning his place to create an absolute 1803 01:43:40,600 --> 01:43:44,040 Speaker 1: experience for either the people in the club or the 1804 01:43:44,120 --> 01:43:48,599 Speaker 1: students in my classroom, making real time decisions, making sure 1805 01:43:48,760 --> 01:43:51,439 Speaker 1: that I am on top of everything, and making sure 1806 01:43:51,520 --> 01:43:56,640 Speaker 1: that I can change when needed, making those adjustments to 1807 01:43:56,840 --> 01:43:59,719 Speaker 1: really read the crowd and feed off of that energy. 1808 01:44:00,040 --> 01:44:06,200 Speaker 1: It becomes sick. Wow, that's hot. You know that's hot 1809 01:44:06,280 --> 01:44:09,280 Speaker 1: because I hear the passion, I hear the planning out here. 1810 01:44:09,360 --> 01:44:11,920 Speaker 1: It's a it's authentic, that's what I hear the most doctor, 1811 01:44:12,640 --> 01:44:15,639 Speaker 1: and that's why, that's why, that's why it works, because 1812 01:44:15,680 --> 01:44:18,599 Speaker 1: it's not something you made up. It's tied to a journey. 1813 01:44:19,160 --> 01:44:21,360 Speaker 1: You know. The journey in the world that we're living 1814 01:44:21,400 --> 01:44:24,080 Speaker 1: in right now is um I did an interview this 1815 01:44:24,240 --> 01:44:27,240 Speaker 1: morning and I was telling them that one out of 1816 01:44:27,360 --> 01:44:31,599 Speaker 1: one thousand black men and boys will be killed by 1817 01:44:31,800 --> 01:44:35,519 Speaker 1: a police officer. That's one out of one thousand. That's 1818 01:44:35,560 --> 01:44:38,639 Speaker 1: two point five times higher than white men and white boys. 1819 01:44:39,320 --> 01:44:43,760 Speaker 1: And when people ask us, why, why the unrest, why 1820 01:44:43,840 --> 01:44:55,679 Speaker 1: the protests, what is your response? Dr Shaun Woodley? Hello, 1821 01:45:00,040 --> 01:45:04,200 Speaker 1: do you cannot tell the oppressed? Essentially, It's been quoted 1822 01:45:04,240 --> 01:45:06,080 Speaker 1: and said so many times, but you can't tell the 1823 01:45:06,120 --> 01:45:10,320 Speaker 1: oppressed how to respond to their oppression. You can't do that. 1824 01:45:10,920 --> 01:45:15,439 Speaker 1: What you're seeing are the results of years of years 1825 01:45:15,520 --> 01:45:19,000 Speaker 1: and years, hundreds of years of outcries, hundreds of years 1826 01:45:19,040 --> 01:45:22,760 Speaker 1: of just simply making a plea not to be treated better, 1827 01:45:23,000 --> 01:45:26,559 Speaker 1: Mr McDonald, for being treated the same. That's all we want, Yes, 1828 01:45:27,000 --> 01:45:28,960 Speaker 1: that's that's at the end of the day. We just 1829 01:45:29,080 --> 01:45:31,760 Speaker 1: wanted to be treated the same. And so now what 1830 01:45:32,000 --> 01:45:37,479 Speaker 1: has resulted from that is the the emotional outburst of 1831 01:45:37,560 --> 01:45:40,720 Speaker 1: the people that has been held down far too long. Absolutely, 1832 01:45:40,960 --> 01:45:42,760 Speaker 1: I always tell people I just want my child to 1833 01:45:42,800 --> 01:45:44,960 Speaker 1: have a better life than our hands. And I think 1834 01:45:45,040 --> 01:45:47,439 Speaker 1: that anybody who's not my color wants the same thing. 1835 01:45:47,840 --> 01:45:50,160 Speaker 1: So just give me my shot. But when I'm stopped by, 1836 01:45:50,320 --> 01:45:53,360 Speaker 1: at least don't allow a lobby not to be afraid. Now, 1837 01:45:53,400 --> 01:45:55,519 Speaker 1: allow me to not believe that this might be a 1838 01:45:55,560 --> 01:45:58,439 Speaker 1: stop I might not drive away from. That's all I'm asking. 1839 01:45:59,080 --> 01:46:01,320 Speaker 1: And when I say one out of one thousand, that's 1840 01:46:01,320 --> 01:46:06,200 Speaker 1: an incredible number. Two publicly say this documented story came 1841 01:46:06,240 --> 01:46:08,120 Speaker 1: out of the Los Angeles time. I read it and 1842 01:46:08,200 --> 01:46:11,559 Speaker 1: been have and I've been horrified ever since. Dr Sean 1843 01:46:11,600 --> 01:46:13,639 Speaker 1: would let I hope you enjoyed coming on my show. 1844 01:46:14,160 --> 01:46:16,360 Speaker 1: It's a it's a journey. It's a journey about it's 1845 01:46:16,360 --> 01:46:18,680 Speaker 1: your journey. I wanted to share with my listeners on 1846 01:46:18,720 --> 01:46:21,320 Speaker 1: money making conversations and no, you have a friend and 1847 01:46:21,520 --> 01:46:23,479 Speaker 1: uh and when the when the conference comes out, the 1848 01:46:23,640 --> 01:46:26,639 Speaker 1: Urban Educator's Conference comes out in August, if you want 1849 01:46:26,640 --> 01:46:28,600 Speaker 1: to come back, the doors open, if you want to 1850 01:46:28,680 --> 01:46:31,519 Speaker 1: just send banners, the doors open. And I would promise you. 1851 01:46:31,960 --> 01:46:33,960 Speaker 1: I promoted in my news letter which goes out to 1852 01:46:34,040 --> 01:46:37,240 Speaker 1: ninety thousand people every Friday at nine am, and I 1853 01:46:37,280 --> 01:46:39,759 Speaker 1: put it on my social media for money making conversations. 1854 01:46:39,760 --> 01:46:43,000 Speaker 1: I would love that. Thank you so much, Thank you 1855 01:46:43,040 --> 01:46:46,960 Speaker 1: for coming to my show. What grows in the Forest trees? 1856 01:46:47,439 --> 01:46:50,760 Speaker 1: Sure you know what else? Girls in the forest? Our imagination, 1857 01:46:51,120 --> 01:46:54,200 Speaker 1: our sense of wonder, and our family bonds grow too, 1858 01:46:54,600 --> 01:46:59,600 Speaker 1: because when we disconnect from this and connect with this, 1859 01:47:01,040 --> 01:47:04,479 Speaker 1: we reconnect with each other. The forest is closer than 1860 01:47:04,560 --> 01:47:07,920 Speaker 1: you think. 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My next guest 1880 01:48:15,280 --> 01:48:16,960 Speaker 1: is a comedy legend. I could only put it like that. 1881 01:48:17,080 --> 01:48:19,080 Speaker 1: He is a legend. I had a good fortune of 1882 01:48:19,120 --> 01:48:22,120 Speaker 1: meeting him several times when I managed Steve Harvey, and 1883 01:48:22,200 --> 01:48:24,160 Speaker 1: he made a surprise visit on stage when I was 1884 01:48:24,240 --> 01:48:27,240 Speaker 1: producing BT's Comic Views, so I know him well. He 1885 01:48:27,400 --> 01:48:30,760 Speaker 1: makes his Netflix original comedy special premiere with We'll Do 1886 01:48:30,840 --> 01:48:34,000 Speaker 1: It for Half, I saw twice as brilliantly funny. He's 1887 01:48:34,040 --> 01:48:37,120 Speaker 1: an entrepreneur with restaurants based on authentic Mexican cuisine from 1888 01:48:37,120 --> 01:48:39,720 Speaker 1: his grandmother's traditional recipes. He has toured with some of 1889 01:48:39,800 --> 01:48:42,439 Speaker 1: my favorite comedians like Adie Griffin, D. L. Hugley and 1890 01:48:42,479 --> 01:48:45,880 Speaker 1: Cedric the Entertainer, And mostly importantly, he is a trailblazer. 1891 01:48:46,080 --> 01:48:49,200 Speaker 1: When he's started his self produced ABC sitcom, he stand 1892 01:48:49,280 --> 01:48:53,280 Speaker 1: up comedy specials, examins race, ethnic relations, and especially the 1893 01:48:53,439 --> 01:48:56,720 Speaker 1: Mexican American culture. Please welcome to money making Conversations, my man, 1894 01:48:56,960 --> 01:49:02,080 Speaker 1: George Lopez. How are your voice? Man? You know? Uh, 1895 01:49:02,360 --> 01:49:04,040 Speaker 1: I saw this specially to me a little links so 1896 01:49:04,080 --> 01:49:05,320 Speaker 1: I can see it early. Is I want to make 1897 01:49:05,320 --> 01:49:07,320 Speaker 1: sure I saw it before I interviewed you. And uh, 1898 01:49:07,760 --> 01:49:09,360 Speaker 1: how you did to Joe it? Okay? First of all, 1899 01:49:09,400 --> 01:49:11,600 Speaker 1: what somebody calls you a comedy legend? What is that? 1900 01:49:12,280 --> 01:49:14,240 Speaker 1: How do you feel with somebody says that about you? 1901 01:49:14,800 --> 01:49:18,240 Speaker 1: You know, I mean it's it's so if they were 1902 01:49:18,280 --> 01:49:20,519 Speaker 1: if there were doctors, you know, there's so many different 1903 01:49:20,560 --> 01:49:23,920 Speaker 1: doctors and different in different variety of fields. You know, 1904 01:49:24,000 --> 01:49:26,479 Speaker 1: so someone would say, you know, he's a scientist, he's 1905 01:49:26,479 --> 01:49:30,200 Speaker 1: a biotech science, he's a heart doctor, he's a brain surgeony, 1906 01:49:30,280 --> 01:49:33,560 Speaker 1: this guy's a dentist. This guy's a general practitioner O B. 1907 01:49:33,720 --> 01:49:37,120 Speaker 1: G y N you know, oncologist. So I look at 1908 01:49:37,200 --> 01:49:42,759 Speaker 1: myself as almost a bit of a multi faceted doctor. 1909 01:49:42,880 --> 01:49:46,719 Speaker 1: You know. One of the things that on this sporting 1910 01:49:46,840 --> 01:49:50,439 Speaker 1: one year journey that I did. You know, I grew 1911 01:49:50,600 --> 01:49:53,840 Speaker 1: up very alone. I grew up without a male figure. 1912 01:49:53,880 --> 01:49:56,519 Speaker 1: I never knew my father, I didn't know my mother. 1913 01:49:57,000 --> 01:50:00,120 Speaker 1: My grandparents were very you know, removed from me, and 1914 01:50:00,680 --> 01:50:04,479 Speaker 1: you know, there was just something growing up that made 1915 01:50:04,520 --> 01:50:07,639 Speaker 1: me feel like I was different than everybody else, not better, 1916 01:50:08,640 --> 01:50:11,960 Speaker 1: just different. And I couldn't put my finger on it, 1917 01:50:12,439 --> 01:50:15,639 Speaker 1: but it was that feeling of being different or having 1918 01:50:15,680 --> 01:50:19,800 Speaker 1: a better instinct than everybody that surrounded me that made 1919 01:50:19,880 --> 01:50:22,720 Speaker 1: me do something that was probably the most terrifying thing 1920 01:50:23,360 --> 01:50:27,479 Speaker 1: anybody could ever do, and do it for years without 1921 01:50:27,680 --> 01:50:32,120 Speaker 1: ever seeing any improvement. So legend in the mind of 1922 01:50:32,479 --> 01:50:36,040 Speaker 1: of of the people, but just somebody who you know, 1923 01:50:36,240 --> 01:50:41,280 Speaker 1: worked hard to create a different narrative than the narrative 1924 01:50:41,320 --> 01:50:43,320 Speaker 1: that I saw. I let me tell you some being 1925 01:50:43,360 --> 01:50:45,479 Speaker 1: a former stand up comic, did they have comedy jam 1926 01:50:45,640 --> 01:50:48,519 Speaker 1: did all the all the comedy specials? Myself, I've been 1927 01:50:48,520 --> 01:50:50,880 Speaker 1: blessed like that. So when I saw your special, and 1928 01:50:50,880 --> 01:50:53,040 Speaker 1: I've seen your specials in the in the past, where 1929 01:50:53,080 --> 01:50:55,160 Speaker 1: one of your funny, but all these specials are funny, 1930 01:50:55,200 --> 01:50:56,840 Speaker 1: one of them that really made me laugh with when you, 1931 01:50:56,960 --> 01:50:59,800 Speaker 1: I think Cedric entertained was backstage and when you ended 1932 01:50:59,840 --> 01:51:02,680 Speaker 1: this show, you crawled through your your name to get 1933 01:51:02,720 --> 01:51:06,000 Speaker 1: off stage. Man, that last so hard on that with 1934 01:51:06,120 --> 01:51:10,000 Speaker 1: Joe Hodge. What was running through your mind? That was funny, dude? Well, 1935 01:51:10,120 --> 01:51:12,280 Speaker 1: you know we that that one. We did live at 1936 01:51:12,320 --> 01:51:15,599 Speaker 1: the Kennedy Center. I was there for Eddie Murphy's March Twain. 1937 01:51:16,280 --> 01:51:18,560 Speaker 1: And then as I stood there and I got a 1938 01:51:18,640 --> 01:51:20,839 Speaker 1: couple of jokes off and I got a huge response, 1939 01:51:20,880 --> 01:51:23,000 Speaker 1: I thought, you know, if I'm gonna do my HBO, 1940 01:51:23,040 --> 01:51:25,040 Speaker 1: specially they wanted to do it and broad Away you 1941 01:51:25,080 --> 01:51:28,479 Speaker 1: couldn't find a theater. But then being there at Eddie Place, 1942 01:51:28,600 --> 01:51:32,400 Speaker 1: I thought, you know, like this room, it's a perfect size, 1943 01:51:32,560 --> 01:51:36,800 Speaker 1: it's a great place. You know. Politically where we were 1944 01:51:37,080 --> 01:51:40,439 Speaker 1: with the wall and then everybody was a shade of 1945 01:51:40,520 --> 01:51:45,880 Speaker 1: having the American flag upside down because upside down means distress. 1946 01:51:46,360 --> 01:51:50,000 Speaker 1: And as we had a meeting months before the production, 1947 01:51:50,000 --> 01:51:52,000 Speaker 1: because I had to start to build the set, we 1948 01:51:52,120 --> 01:51:55,400 Speaker 1: were under an agreement that the director, Troy Miller, who's 1949 01:51:55,439 --> 01:51:58,719 Speaker 1: an incredible director, to the arrest of development crazy stuff, 1950 01:51:58,960 --> 01:52:01,360 Speaker 1: that we told him that we weren't gonna put the 1951 01:52:01,400 --> 01:52:05,080 Speaker 1: flag upside down, but he said, hell, no, man, We're 1952 01:52:05,080 --> 01:52:07,439 Speaker 1: putting the flag upside down. So it wasn't until I 1953 01:52:07,560 --> 01:52:10,600 Speaker 1: got there that day to rehearse that. We noticed that 1954 01:52:10,720 --> 01:52:14,040 Speaker 1: the flag was upside down, and then he said, hey, Jean, 1955 01:52:14,080 --> 01:52:15,960 Speaker 1: you know at the end of your show, you should 1956 01:52:16,040 --> 01:52:21,880 Speaker 1: crawl under the wall here. I said, under that, yeah said, 1957 01:52:22,560 --> 01:52:25,280 Speaker 1: and and I did it about it, man, I'm telling 1958 01:52:25,280 --> 01:52:27,160 Speaker 1: you so. Man, I laughed so I wouldn't grab my 1959 01:52:27,240 --> 01:52:29,160 Speaker 1: wife and played that back to look at this food. 1960 01:52:29,680 --> 01:52:32,600 Speaker 1: He he crawled under his name under the wall, and 1961 01:52:32,640 --> 01:52:34,920 Speaker 1: then backstage said he was laughing bad. That was just 1962 01:52:35,360 --> 01:52:38,280 Speaker 1: That's what I'm talking about, legendary stuff, man, because that's 1963 01:52:38,320 --> 01:52:41,920 Speaker 1: a stand up you know. I know the pressure it 1964 01:52:42,000 --> 01:52:44,200 Speaker 1: takes to be able to go on stage be original. 1965 01:52:44,520 --> 01:52:46,599 Speaker 1: And when I look at you, when I watched this special, man, 1966 01:52:47,280 --> 01:52:49,439 Speaker 1: this is my This is what I say about stand up. 1967 01:52:49,720 --> 01:52:51,760 Speaker 1: When I look at a special, I go wow, I 1968 01:52:52,040 --> 01:52:54,360 Speaker 1: would never thought of that joke. I wouldn't never thought 1969 01:52:54,360 --> 01:52:57,519 Speaker 1: that joke. And that that's your special, man, and in 1970 01:52:57,640 --> 01:53:00,240 Speaker 1: its own Netflix, and it's your very first one on 1971 01:53:00,360 --> 01:53:03,200 Speaker 1: them Netflix. And we'll do it for half and and 1972 01:53:03,640 --> 01:53:05,640 Speaker 1: just tell us about the whole process of getting it 1973 01:53:05,680 --> 01:53:09,840 Speaker 1: over to Netflix and and taping it in San Francisco. Well, 1974 01:53:09,920 --> 01:53:11,559 Speaker 1: you know, let me say, let me say this before 1975 01:53:11,560 --> 01:53:13,680 Speaker 1: you because you just stand up. So one thing I 1976 01:53:13,800 --> 01:53:17,320 Speaker 1: think inherited and everyone is some people everybody has a 1977 01:53:17,400 --> 01:53:21,640 Speaker 1: sense of humor, whether they take themselves too serious, or 1978 01:53:21,720 --> 01:53:24,320 Speaker 1: they need to lighten up, or they're dry. One of 1979 01:53:24,400 --> 01:53:29,000 Speaker 1: the things about about comedy and comedians is even the 1980 01:53:29,200 --> 01:53:32,519 Speaker 1: odds of even getting a little bit of light shown 1981 01:53:32,600 --> 01:53:37,800 Speaker 1: on you is so nearly impossible. But you know, there's 1982 01:53:37,920 --> 01:53:40,840 Speaker 1: so many guys that I saw growing up, and that 1983 01:53:41,000 --> 01:53:43,320 Speaker 1: I saw in the clubs in the eighties, nineties, in 1984 01:53:43,360 --> 01:53:47,400 Speaker 1: the last twenty years that were so good, that we're 1985 01:53:47,520 --> 01:53:52,120 Speaker 1: so clever, that we're great writers, and whatever fortune, whatever fate, 1986 01:53:52,320 --> 01:53:55,559 Speaker 1: didn't let anything shine on those guys. And as as 1987 01:53:55,680 --> 01:53:59,519 Speaker 1: much as the world needs drafter, there's a whole group 1988 01:53:59,600 --> 01:54:04,240 Speaker 1: of idiots who are incredibly funny that no one will 1989 01:54:04,360 --> 01:54:07,960 Speaker 1: ever hear of. That's why whatever you do, do it 1990 01:54:08,080 --> 01:54:11,160 Speaker 1: because you love it. Because you know there's no guarantee 1991 01:54:11,200 --> 01:54:12,640 Speaker 1: that you're not gonna be one of those cats that 1992 01:54:13,080 --> 01:54:15,600 Speaker 1: gets any love. But if you feel good about what 1993 01:54:15,720 --> 01:54:20,360 Speaker 1: you do, then that's already becoming a success. You know successes, 1994 01:54:20,439 --> 01:54:23,639 Speaker 1: and like everybody knows your name, people see you. Yeah, 1995 01:54:23,680 --> 01:54:26,760 Speaker 1: that that's great. But the one thing is that you 1996 01:54:26,960 --> 01:54:30,479 Speaker 1: never loosen You're never loosening your grip on something that 1997 01:54:31,160 --> 01:54:33,240 Speaker 1: you can't really get a grip on, Like I think 1998 01:54:33,280 --> 01:54:35,400 Speaker 1: you work harder when you get a little love and 1999 01:54:35,480 --> 01:54:36,960 Speaker 1: you start to do theaters and you start to do 2000 01:54:37,040 --> 01:54:39,080 Speaker 1: arena and you start to meet the people that you 2001 01:54:39,160 --> 01:54:41,640 Speaker 1: started to to meet on the way up. I've seen 2002 01:54:41,680 --> 01:54:44,640 Speaker 1: a lot of guys stayed out, but I always work 2003 01:54:44,920 --> 01:54:47,720 Speaker 1: the hardest when I had my show, when I had 2004 01:54:47,760 --> 01:54:50,920 Speaker 1: my top show, when I had the specials. So it's 2005 01:54:51,000 --> 01:54:53,560 Speaker 1: just been something that I've never been able to relinquish. 2006 01:54:53,800 --> 01:54:56,240 Speaker 1: So going to San Francisco and go into the war 2007 01:54:56,400 --> 01:54:59,560 Speaker 1: Field and knowing the history of it, knowing that Jimmy 2008 01:54:59,640 --> 01:55:03,720 Speaker 1: Henders lay there, Janni's, Joplin, Santana, the Ravana, the gates, 2009 01:55:03,720 --> 01:55:07,560 Speaker 1: your bed, everybody that's anybody's been in there, and you 2010 01:55:07,640 --> 01:55:10,960 Speaker 1: know you can do it anywhere, but when you do 2011 01:55:11,120 --> 01:55:15,160 Speaker 1: it in a place that has historical significant. Going to 2012 01:55:15,280 --> 01:55:18,160 Speaker 1: be Apollo. Chris Spencer asked me to do this thing 2013 01:55:18,200 --> 01:55:21,680 Speaker 1: at the Apollo, and going there. It may not mean 2014 01:55:21,920 --> 01:55:25,160 Speaker 1: anything to anybody else, that's not for me to decide, 2015 01:55:25,480 --> 01:55:27,680 Speaker 1: But what it meant to me to be on stage 2016 01:55:27,680 --> 01:55:29,640 Speaker 1: with the Apollo to go to the road thill to 2017 01:55:29,800 --> 01:55:34,040 Speaker 1: go do Radio City is beyond you know, anybody's true 2018 01:55:34,880 --> 01:55:38,120 Speaker 1: imagination or level of appreciation. I'm just I'm just kind 2019 01:55:38,160 --> 01:55:41,160 Speaker 1: of honored to be able to do the things that 2020 01:55:41,240 --> 01:55:43,520 Speaker 1: I've always wanted to do, you know, And and and 2021 01:55:43,680 --> 01:55:46,840 Speaker 1: thank you for explaining that, because I remember I was 2022 01:55:46,920 --> 01:55:49,800 Speaker 1: producing bats Comic View and you may not even remember this, 2023 01:55:50,240 --> 01:55:53,120 Speaker 1: and the Anthony Brown was hosting that that run Betis 2024 01:55:53,160 --> 01:55:55,520 Speaker 1: Comic View and you came and uh, and we're trying 2025 01:55:55,560 --> 01:55:57,320 Speaker 1: to get you to go on stage. Oh no, it's 2026 01:55:57,360 --> 01:55:59,440 Speaker 1: not my thing. It's not my thing, you know, as y'all. 2027 01:55:59,480 --> 01:56:02,160 Speaker 1: I'm just here to watch and just wash everybody good luck. 2028 01:56:02,520 --> 01:56:04,480 Speaker 1: And I remember we got you to go on stage, 2029 01:56:04,480 --> 01:56:06,640 Speaker 1: and you walked on stage, we introduced you, and the 2030 01:56:06,760 --> 01:56:09,480 Speaker 1: whole room of black people stood up and gave you 2031 01:56:09,520 --> 01:56:13,080 Speaker 1: a standard ovation. And that to me, you know, because 2032 01:56:13,120 --> 01:56:15,320 Speaker 1: you know, you're always famous with your group, you know, 2033 01:56:15,440 --> 01:56:17,360 Speaker 1: like you know, like jeffs I felt he famous with 2034 01:56:17,440 --> 01:56:20,200 Speaker 1: his crowd, and you know, and you you established your 2035 01:56:20,240 --> 01:56:22,840 Speaker 1: brand of just being a funny guy. But in my mind, 2036 01:56:23,160 --> 01:56:25,440 Speaker 1: the mex American culture was your was your was your 2037 01:56:25,480 --> 01:56:27,800 Speaker 1: home rock. And when I walked when I saw you 2038 01:56:27,920 --> 01:56:31,840 Speaker 1: walk out that charge, and these black people stood off 2039 01:56:31,880 --> 01:56:33,760 Speaker 1: because you know, black people just like Hispanics, you know, 2040 01:56:34,120 --> 01:56:36,760 Speaker 1: they don't they don't give it up unless they respect it, okay. 2041 01:56:37,360 --> 01:56:39,080 Speaker 1: And when they walked out there and gave you a 2042 01:56:39,160 --> 01:56:41,680 Speaker 1: standard ovation, man, I went, this dude got it, man, 2043 01:56:42,040 --> 01:56:45,000 Speaker 1: he got something extra going on in his life. And 2044 01:56:45,120 --> 01:56:47,320 Speaker 1: I just I just That's why I called you a legend, man, 2045 01:56:47,400 --> 01:56:50,960 Speaker 1: because when you cross all these different lanes man with respect, 2046 01:56:52,160 --> 01:56:56,640 Speaker 1: that's beautiful, dude, that's beautiful. You know. You know I 2047 01:56:56,800 --> 01:56:59,720 Speaker 1: was my grandmother raised me. My grandmother was in my 2048 01:57:00,040 --> 01:57:03,080 Speaker 1: that would say, you know, my grandmother was was actually insensitive, 2049 01:57:03,200 --> 01:57:06,960 Speaker 1: like like your grandmother's and everybody's grandmothers recially insensitive. So 2050 01:57:07,240 --> 01:57:11,320 Speaker 1: part of my material is about her relationship with African 2051 01:57:11,360 --> 01:57:14,600 Speaker 1: American people and then coming to the door, not opening 2052 01:57:14,640 --> 01:57:18,520 Speaker 1: the door, her relationship with black people, saying you know what, 2053 01:57:18,840 --> 01:57:22,720 Speaker 1: Like I said, I said, my first girlfriend, here's a 2054 01:57:22,840 --> 01:57:26,400 Speaker 1: here's a true story. And it hurts and it's still 2055 01:57:26,440 --> 01:57:29,200 Speaker 1: funny to this day. Like when I was in seventh grade, 2056 01:57:29,240 --> 01:57:31,960 Speaker 1: there was this girl that looked like get Christie Love. 2057 01:57:32,080 --> 01:57:35,840 Speaker 1: She was in seventh grade. Her name was Christina Husky fro, 2058 01:57:36,480 --> 01:57:39,960 Speaker 1: light skinned, tall, beautiful, and she liked me, and all 2059 01:57:40,000 --> 01:57:42,240 Speaker 1: my friends gave me a hard time, and I would 2060 01:57:42,280 --> 01:57:45,400 Speaker 1: walk with her to class and and I, you know, 2061 01:57:45,600 --> 01:57:47,960 Speaker 1: I dug her and she was cool. She lived on 2062 01:57:48,040 --> 01:57:50,720 Speaker 1: the other side of the street from where I lived, 2063 01:57:50,760 --> 01:57:53,840 Speaker 1: the main street, And one day I was walking home 2064 01:57:53,920 --> 01:57:55,680 Speaker 1: with her and my grandmother, I guess must have got 2065 01:57:55,720 --> 01:57:59,840 Speaker 1: off work early and saw me and roll the one 2066 01:58:00,120 --> 01:58:02,200 Speaker 1: down and hunkle horn and did a U turn on 2067 01:58:02,280 --> 01:58:06,080 Speaker 1: San Frando mission, roll the window down and said, hey, shat, 2068 01:58:07,040 --> 01:58:11,000 Speaker 1: which your ass home? To call me shat? When I 2069 01:58:11,120 --> 01:58:14,240 Speaker 1: was walking with this African American girl, i' how to funk? You? 2070 01:58:14,320 --> 01:58:16,840 Speaker 1: You what? Who shaft was? But she's like a shot 2071 01:58:17,000 --> 01:58:21,200 Speaker 1: get home, you know? And she fripped out. So I said, 2072 01:58:21,280 --> 01:58:23,080 Speaker 1: so what what if I like the black girl? So oh, 2073 01:58:23,120 --> 01:58:25,720 Speaker 1: I no, No, I said, what what? What? Why? Why 2074 01:58:25,840 --> 01:58:28,760 Speaker 1: is it your concerned? She goes, because I don't like her? 2075 01:58:28,880 --> 01:58:30,880 Speaker 1: And if you do, they're gonna see me with you, 2076 01:58:30,960 --> 01:58:32,640 Speaker 1: and they're gonna think I like him and I don't. 2077 01:58:32,680 --> 01:58:35,760 Speaker 1: I mean That's how she thought. And then and then 2078 01:58:35,920 --> 01:58:39,640 Speaker 1: and then in school, Christina came over to me one 2079 01:58:39,680 --> 01:58:42,520 Speaker 1: day and said she didn't feel that I should spend 2080 01:58:42,560 --> 01:58:45,080 Speaker 1: any more time with her because people wouldn't get it, 2081 01:58:45,200 --> 01:58:48,200 Speaker 1: and it was just becoming an issue, and and and 2082 01:58:48,400 --> 01:58:50,480 Speaker 1: we I never walked her to class. I never walked 2083 01:58:50,520 --> 01:58:53,800 Speaker 1: her home from school after that. And you know, when 2084 01:58:53,840 --> 01:58:56,400 Speaker 1: I was a young kid, still made quite an impression 2085 01:58:56,480 --> 01:58:59,600 Speaker 1: on me. But um, you know, in order to look 2086 01:58:59,680 --> 01:59:02,960 Speaker 1: at end up as all of the stand up, being 2087 01:59:03,680 --> 01:59:07,600 Speaker 1: racially insensitive to different groups, especially Latinos, was part of 2088 01:59:07,760 --> 01:59:11,280 Speaker 1: my mix. So you can't pull one thing out and say, 2089 01:59:11,360 --> 01:59:14,000 Speaker 1: you know, he's racist towards African American people when I've 2090 01:59:14,040 --> 01:59:16,840 Speaker 1: said worst things about everybody else. One of the things 2091 01:59:16,960 --> 01:59:20,760 Speaker 1: that made Richard Pryor, or did Gregory or you know, 2092 01:59:21,280 --> 01:59:25,920 Speaker 1: George Carlin, or made anybody you Steve Cedric d l 2093 01:59:26,280 --> 01:59:30,160 Speaker 1: Eddie Griffin, who makes anybody anything is not if you're 2094 01:59:30,160 --> 01:59:33,480 Speaker 1: gonna shoot the gun, shoot the gun. Don't hold the 2095 01:59:33,600 --> 01:59:35,720 Speaker 1: gun and not shoot it. Then put the gun down. 2096 01:59:36,280 --> 01:59:39,400 Speaker 1: So in comedy, if you're gonna take the shot, take 2097 01:59:39,480 --> 01:59:43,120 Speaker 1: the shot. Don't dance around the shot. Don't don't don't 2098 01:59:43,280 --> 01:59:46,160 Speaker 1: don't hamm and hall. Don't look at an audience and 2099 01:59:46,240 --> 01:59:48,680 Speaker 1: say I can't do that. You know, there's so many 2100 01:59:48,720 --> 01:59:51,320 Speaker 1: people that I can't do that. The honesty is who 2101 01:59:51,400 --> 01:59:54,920 Speaker 1: gets the respect and and the legacy is somebody never 2102 01:59:55,160 --> 01:59:58,160 Speaker 1: pulling a punch. Now I'm talking to George Lopez, the 2103 01:59:58,240 --> 02:00:01,400 Speaker 1: brilliant George lopayers. He has a Netflix special that's coming 2104 02:00:01,400 --> 02:00:04,960 Speaker 1: out of June Tuesday, June thirtie. It's called We'll Do 2105 02:00:05,080 --> 02:00:08,040 Speaker 1: It for Half. We'll Do It for Half. When I 2106 02:00:08,080 --> 02:00:10,000 Speaker 1: started your interview, George, I told you I watched your 2107 02:00:10,040 --> 02:00:13,000 Speaker 1: special twice, okay, and this is why I watched this. 2108 02:00:13,080 --> 02:00:15,400 Speaker 1: But first of all, I enjoyed it. And then I remember, 2109 02:00:15,880 --> 02:00:18,280 Speaker 1: you know, as we all were in the beginning, we 2110 02:00:18,360 --> 02:00:20,240 Speaker 1: just won't get a stage, so we tell some jokes 2111 02:00:20,280 --> 02:00:22,120 Speaker 1: so we could be funny. That's the goal, just to 2112 02:00:22,200 --> 02:00:24,800 Speaker 1: be funny. Go from the opener to a middle act 2113 02:00:24,880 --> 02:00:27,080 Speaker 1: to a headline, to get that get that first class 2114 02:00:27,120 --> 02:00:29,480 Speaker 1: ticket and you you're traveling, and all that good stuff 2115 02:00:29,480 --> 02:00:32,000 Speaker 1: and anything else that comes along is a blessing. Okay, 2116 02:00:32,080 --> 02:00:33,760 Speaker 1: that's stuff that's the life of a stand up of 2117 02:00:34,080 --> 02:00:37,360 Speaker 1: the average stand up comic in this country right now. Now, 2118 02:00:38,240 --> 02:00:41,920 Speaker 1: then I want your website, and I saw your brand, 2119 02:00:42,280 --> 02:00:48,320 Speaker 1: I saw restaurants, I saw blue halls, I saw your foundation, 2120 02:00:49,000 --> 02:00:52,920 Speaker 1: I saw COVID nineteen face mask. I so we can't 2121 02:00:52,960 --> 02:00:56,360 Speaker 1: breathe T shirts and so so now when I look 2122 02:00:56,400 --> 02:00:58,120 Speaker 1: and I said, then, then I looked at your special 2123 02:00:58,200 --> 02:01:01,800 Speaker 1: again and I put into perspective all that weight that 2124 02:01:01,920 --> 02:01:05,600 Speaker 1: you're now carrying on stage with you now when you're performing. 2125 02:01:05,840 --> 02:01:07,880 Speaker 1: So in the beginning, you didn't carry all that weight. 2126 02:01:08,000 --> 02:01:12,560 Speaker 1: Employees and COVID and eighteen and all that stuff. All 2127 02:01:12,640 --> 02:01:15,600 Speaker 1: that's going on stage with you now, and that's a 2128 02:01:15,640 --> 02:01:18,000 Speaker 1: lot of people don't understand that. To be funny man 2129 02:01:18,160 --> 02:01:22,480 Speaker 1: under that amount of global understanding. Gave me a truly 2130 02:01:22,600 --> 02:01:26,040 Speaker 1: different perspective and appreciated your comment even more when I 2131 02:01:26,080 --> 02:01:28,160 Speaker 1: saw it the second time. You understand where I'm coming from. 2132 02:01:29,840 --> 02:01:35,400 Speaker 1: It's absolutely you know, um uh, I think everybody like me. 2133 02:01:35,720 --> 02:01:38,240 Speaker 1: When my show started. You know, my show wasn't a 2134 02:01:38,480 --> 02:01:41,400 Speaker 1: huge shit, but it did a hundred and twenty episodes. 2135 02:01:41,480 --> 02:01:43,560 Speaker 1: That did you know five and a half years on ABC, 2136 02:01:44,280 --> 02:01:46,320 Speaker 1: which I had a company, But that was the family 2137 02:01:46,440 --> 02:01:49,000 Speaker 1: show with an edge. But I'm gonna tell you right 2138 02:01:49,040 --> 02:01:52,640 Speaker 1: now that I lost a lot of people, including people 2139 02:01:52,960 --> 02:01:56,160 Speaker 1: when I started to vocalize and I started to have 2140 02:01:56,360 --> 02:01:59,840 Speaker 1: my opinion on issues, but also at the Grammys and 2141 02:02:00,000 --> 02:02:02,640 Speaker 1: two thousand eight Senator two thousand and eight. The election 2142 02:02:02,760 --> 02:02:05,960 Speaker 1: was in November of eight. Chris Rock called me on 2143 02:02:06,080 --> 02:02:09,000 Speaker 1: a Monday after the Grammars had said, can I give 2144 02:02:09,040 --> 02:02:13,040 Speaker 1: Barack Obama your telephone number because he wants to ask you, 2145 02:02:13,680 --> 02:02:16,920 Speaker 1: you know, something about your support Hillary Clinton's office had 2146 02:02:16,960 --> 02:02:23,720 Speaker 1: sent a fact to the office, very impersonal, and I said, sure. 2147 02:02:24,320 --> 02:02:29,800 Speaker 1: So I'm watching CNN at one fifty two. Barack Obama's campaigning, 2148 02:02:29,880 --> 02:02:32,600 Speaker 1: he's a senator, and it's a one fifty five and 2149 02:02:32,720 --> 02:02:35,760 Speaker 1: he's leaving. And I said, there's no way that this 2150 02:02:35,960 --> 02:02:38,560 Speaker 1: guy is gonna call me at two o'clock. If I'm 2151 02:02:38,600 --> 02:02:42,200 Speaker 1: watching CNN and he's leaving an event, there's no way 2152 02:02:42,960 --> 02:02:46,480 Speaker 1: call call at two thirty or three two o'clock. Phone 2153 02:02:46,560 --> 02:02:51,480 Speaker 1: rings low, Uh, George Alta, Yes, hold for the Senator. 2154 02:02:51,680 --> 02:02:55,080 Speaker 1: Garri's Barack Obama. Hey, I saw the Yeah, yeah, I said. 2155 02:02:55,120 --> 02:02:57,040 Speaker 1: He said, listen, I don't know where you are politically, 2156 02:02:57,880 --> 02:02:59,680 Speaker 1: but you know Latino vote means a lot to me. 2157 02:03:00,040 --> 02:03:02,400 Speaker 1: I think the communities have a lot in common. I said, listen, man, 2158 02:03:02,480 --> 02:03:05,920 Speaker 1: you know I will help you. And then I did 2159 02:03:06,160 --> 02:03:11,320 Speaker 1: what maybe was the most difficult thing to do in Texas, 2160 02:03:11,440 --> 02:03:14,200 Speaker 1: in South Texas is I would go to these theaters 2161 02:03:14,560 --> 02:03:16,720 Speaker 1: and people would be lined up to see me twice 2162 02:03:16,760 --> 02:03:19,200 Speaker 1: in an afternoon. I would talk about half an hour 2163 02:03:19,320 --> 02:03:21,520 Speaker 1: to be a political to mayor, and they'd be some 2164 02:03:21,600 --> 02:03:24,280 Speaker 1: political speeches, and I would go to a half hour, 2165 02:03:24,400 --> 02:03:26,640 Speaker 1: maybe four or five minutes, and then I would say 2166 02:03:27,640 --> 02:03:30,160 Speaker 1: that I'm gonna support a Barack Obama. And they would 2167 02:03:30,280 --> 02:03:34,240 Speaker 1: boo and they would yell and they would hiss, and 2168 02:03:34,360 --> 02:03:36,680 Speaker 1: I would be like, listen, listen, listen this, wait a minute, 2169 02:03:36,720 --> 02:03:39,240 Speaker 1: hang out a second. They would walk out on me, 2170 02:03:39,760 --> 02:03:42,720 Speaker 1: and and I kept on the message. I stayed and 2171 02:03:42,760 --> 02:03:44,880 Speaker 1: I started to say, listen, you know, I will vote 2172 02:03:44,920 --> 02:03:48,760 Speaker 1: for somebody just because she's not African American. And that's 2173 02:03:48,800 --> 02:03:50,920 Speaker 1: how you go by the same beer every time because 2174 02:03:51,000 --> 02:03:53,760 Speaker 1: your dad brought it, bought it, by the same soup 2175 02:03:53,800 --> 02:03:56,200 Speaker 1: because your mom bought it. I said, there's choices, and 2176 02:03:56,280 --> 02:03:59,320 Speaker 1: we shouldn't just follow it. Man. It was the most 2177 02:03:59,600 --> 02:04:04,360 Speaker 1: deaf called to have your own people turn on you 2178 02:04:05,000 --> 02:04:09,880 Speaker 1: for your political stance of getting someone who's different, who's 2179 02:04:09,880 --> 02:04:12,280 Speaker 1: African American. A lot of there's a lot of racial 2180 02:04:12,320 --> 02:04:16,240 Speaker 1: division between our cultures as well, and they just they 2181 02:04:16,400 --> 02:04:19,640 Speaker 1: just didn't get it until I kept doing it and 2182 02:04:19,760 --> 02:04:21,640 Speaker 1: he started to do it. But at one time in 2183 02:04:21,720 --> 02:04:24,160 Speaker 1: New Mexico, we had a rally out there about you 2184 02:04:24,280 --> 02:04:27,560 Speaker 1: of them, and they tore the gates down trying to 2185 02:04:27,600 --> 02:04:30,400 Speaker 1: get and they expected twenty thou people. That's fifty thou 2186 02:04:30,600 --> 02:04:35,440 Speaker 1: people out there. Wow, you know they're learning around. It's 2187 02:04:35,440 --> 02:04:38,000 Speaker 1: amazing thing. And when I'm talking to you, I'm talking 2188 02:04:38,040 --> 02:04:41,080 Speaker 1: to I'm almost talking to a historian. Okay, that's a 2189 02:04:41,120 --> 02:04:44,360 Speaker 1: compliment right there, because when you said forty one years 2190 02:04:44,400 --> 02:04:47,200 Speaker 1: of comedy, man, because we are people. People understand by 2191 02:04:47,440 --> 02:04:50,880 Speaker 1: comedy community is good comedians. We really just document things 2192 02:04:50,960 --> 02:04:52,880 Speaker 1: and did we twist them on stage, But we really 2193 02:04:52,880 --> 02:04:55,040 Speaker 1: are telling the truth in a way if you just 2194 02:04:55,480 --> 02:04:57,560 Speaker 1: really broke down what we were saying, we just making 2195 02:04:57,680 --> 02:04:59,600 Speaker 1: just make it, make it funny because we made real 2196 02:04:59,680 --> 02:05:01,800 Speaker 1: short left the right turns, and that's where the humor 2197 02:05:01,880 --> 02:05:04,160 Speaker 1: comes from. But we're really just telling you the truth. 2198 02:05:04,520 --> 02:05:06,840 Speaker 1: And when I when I look at COVID nineteen, if 2199 02:05:06,880 --> 02:05:09,720 Speaker 1: you don't mind me talking about right quick, it's affecting 2200 02:05:09,840 --> 02:05:13,280 Speaker 1: the Hispanic community of Latino community and the black community 2201 02:05:13,360 --> 02:05:15,560 Speaker 1: is being devastated by the COVID nineteen and then I 2202 02:05:15,560 --> 02:05:17,720 Speaker 1: went on the website and I was so happy to 2203 02:05:17,760 --> 02:05:21,080 Speaker 1: see that you are doing your part providing COVID nineteen 2204 02:05:21,160 --> 02:05:23,120 Speaker 1: face masks. How did you get into that and what 2205 02:05:23,280 --> 02:05:27,120 Speaker 1: motivated you to participate at that level. Well, first of all, 2206 02:05:27,240 --> 02:05:30,040 Speaker 1: you know we're not and and let's not even go 2207 02:05:30,200 --> 02:05:33,680 Speaker 1: in to talk about medical and our medical conditions. So 2208 02:05:34,240 --> 02:05:37,480 Speaker 1: I had a kidney transplant in two thousands five from 2209 02:05:37,520 --> 02:05:39,400 Speaker 1: when I was married by my wife An gave it 2210 02:05:39,480 --> 02:05:41,880 Speaker 1: to me. But this was stuff that should have been 2211 02:05:41,920 --> 02:05:44,040 Speaker 1: detected when I was a child. I went to bed, 2212 02:05:44,440 --> 02:05:47,120 Speaker 1: you know, kids went the bed, you know, And instead 2213 02:05:47,160 --> 02:05:49,320 Speaker 1: of saying that maybe there's something wrong, because there was 2214 02:05:49,400 --> 02:05:51,560 Speaker 1: something wrong, I just didn't do it because I drank 2215 02:05:51,640 --> 02:05:53,560 Speaker 1: so much water I couldn't keep that in. And I 2216 02:05:53,600 --> 02:05:56,120 Speaker 1: mean I had a narrow year. I was born early, 2217 02:05:56,920 --> 02:06:00,440 Speaker 1: went undetected. I could have had both my original kidneys. 2218 02:06:00,640 --> 02:06:03,440 Speaker 1: If I had come from a culture where when somebody 2219 02:06:03,480 --> 02:06:05,920 Speaker 1: went to bed, you take him to the doctor. If 2220 02:06:05,960 --> 02:06:07,720 Speaker 1: I would have had a bottle, I had an m 2221 02:06:07,840 --> 02:06:10,600 Speaker 1: R I or something, I could have saved myself. So 2222 02:06:11,000 --> 02:06:14,040 Speaker 1: so the fact that we ignore situations of our health 2223 02:06:14,400 --> 02:06:17,440 Speaker 1: until clearly we can't get out of bed. I knew 2224 02:06:17,520 --> 02:06:20,640 Speaker 1: something was wrong. So so with colvid and and and 2225 02:06:21,080 --> 02:06:25,360 Speaker 1: uh compromise immune system, and knowing that that it could 2226 02:06:25,400 --> 02:06:28,120 Speaker 1: spread the family and that it's invisible, then that you 2227 02:06:28,200 --> 02:06:30,560 Speaker 1: had to take it serious. It was a no brainer, man, 2228 02:06:30,680 --> 02:06:33,160 Speaker 1: to to get involved in the mass, to donate money 2229 02:06:33,200 --> 02:06:36,760 Speaker 1: to charity, to try to get people the mass as well. 2230 02:06:37,120 --> 02:06:39,200 Speaker 1: But also, you know, let's talk about D. L. Hugley, 2231 02:06:39,480 --> 02:06:44,840 Speaker 1: who uh go ahead, uh asymptomatic, So you look at 2232 02:06:45,000 --> 02:06:47,920 Speaker 1: pre existing conditions. But also I said this, you know, 2233 02:06:48,000 --> 02:06:50,240 Speaker 1: and I haven't talked to him about this, but I 2234 02:06:50,400 --> 02:06:54,600 Speaker 1: just feel like, as as you never want to fall 2235 02:06:54,680 --> 02:06:56,640 Speaker 1: out on stage, you never want to fall out anywhere. 2236 02:06:56,640 --> 02:06:59,280 Speaker 1: Could have been driving, could have been anywhere. That may 2237 02:06:59,360 --> 02:07:03,040 Speaker 1: have been the best thing for him personally, because if 2238 02:07:03,080 --> 02:07:05,600 Speaker 1: it had happened in the hotel room, he probably would 2239 02:07:05,600 --> 02:07:08,879 Speaker 1: have thought, I'm fatigued, I didn't eat. I've been traveling 2240 02:07:09,280 --> 02:07:13,280 Speaker 1: and and and look past the COVID until maybe it 2241 02:07:13,480 --> 02:07:17,000 Speaker 1: was further along and now it was more serious. So 2242 02:07:17,240 --> 02:07:20,800 Speaker 1: he raises the fact that he sat out in Nashville. 2243 02:07:21,240 --> 02:07:24,560 Speaker 1: A larger issue is that maybe we shouldn't be rushing 2244 02:07:24,640 --> 02:07:27,600 Speaker 1: back to the clubs as comedians and as an audience 2245 02:07:27,880 --> 02:07:32,240 Speaker 1: because this is a real, real thing and as hard 2246 02:07:32,240 --> 02:07:33,760 Speaker 1: as it is to get by because a lot of 2247 02:07:33,880 --> 02:07:37,000 Speaker 1: us don't have disposed income. You only have one life, 2248 02:07:37,120 --> 02:07:39,160 Speaker 1: and that's the life that you need to protect. I 2249 02:07:39,280 --> 02:07:42,760 Speaker 1: was right talking to George Lopez. Is Comedy Special examines 2250 02:07:42,880 --> 02:07:46,640 Speaker 1: race ethnic relations, especially they have Mexican American culture. Anything 2251 02:07:46,720 --> 02:07:48,960 Speaker 1: different than this special there's air and on Netflix up 2252 02:07:49,040 --> 02:07:52,440 Speaker 1: on June. George Lopez, you know, I think just being 2253 02:07:52,480 --> 02:07:54,800 Speaker 1: incredibly funny. You're being funny in that, dude, you and 2254 02:07:55,040 --> 02:07:57,240 Speaker 1: I want to take you too special. You do one 2255 02:07:57,280 --> 02:07:59,560 Speaker 1: in English and you do one in Spanish. You know that, right, 2256 02:08:00,680 --> 02:08:02,480 Speaker 1: that's true? What yea? So? So I think I think 2257 02:08:03,000 --> 02:08:06,120 Speaker 1: creating the narrative of the uncle that was like going 2258 02:08:06,200 --> 02:08:09,120 Speaker 1: to the doctor at Gangerine and Astralia commune disease and 2259 02:08:09,200 --> 02:08:14,080 Speaker 1: our disease, creating a also ego also, you know, using 2260 02:08:15,000 --> 02:08:18,320 Speaker 1: wanting to know where all the food comes from, uh, 2261 02:08:18,800 --> 02:08:22,200 Speaker 1: wanting to be in other people's business. All this whole 2262 02:08:22,280 --> 02:08:25,080 Speaker 1: thing about parents and all these people, if they have 2263 02:08:25,360 --> 02:08:30,120 Speaker 1: one thing consistently is they're all older white women. Because 2264 02:08:30,200 --> 02:08:33,400 Speaker 1: everybody else has found a way to mind your own business. 2265 02:08:33,440 --> 02:08:35,080 Speaker 1: When I was married. I was married to a woman 2266 02:08:35,160 --> 02:08:39,280 Speaker 1: that if she saw a kid without a parent and 2267 02:08:39,400 --> 02:08:41,680 Speaker 1: the parent was sitting down two feet away, She's like, 2268 02:08:41,800 --> 02:08:44,080 Speaker 1: you shouldn't leave your kid unattended, usaid, and you're gonna 2269 02:08:44,120 --> 02:08:47,000 Speaker 1: get knocked out, you know, minding your own business. So 2270 02:08:47,320 --> 02:08:50,480 Speaker 1: we as a culture mind our own business. But when 2271 02:08:50,560 --> 02:08:53,040 Speaker 1: someone thinks they're superior to you, they don't have a 2272 02:08:53,120 --> 02:08:55,120 Speaker 1: problem walking up to you in a restaurant when you're 2273 02:08:55,160 --> 02:08:57,640 Speaker 1: eating asking why you're not wearing a mask. But if 2274 02:08:57,680 --> 02:09:00,800 Speaker 1: someone sees me, or sees any buddy of color and 2275 02:09:00,880 --> 02:09:04,720 Speaker 1: a convenience store and you're starting to throw a word around, 2276 02:09:04,760 --> 02:09:07,800 Speaker 1: you started to throw some disrespect, you're gonna take. You're 2277 02:09:07,800 --> 02:09:10,520 Speaker 1: gonna take a twoth piece combo right by the five 2278 02:09:10,600 --> 02:09:13,160 Speaker 1: hour energy drinks and those vitamins that can stop your heart. 2279 02:09:18,000 --> 02:09:21,680 Speaker 1: You're too much, man, too much, You're too much. Everyone, 2280 02:09:21,920 --> 02:09:25,160 Speaker 1: every one of those leagues has taken what they deserved. 2281 02:09:25,200 --> 02:09:30,160 Speaker 1: They go back to your taking floss like a like 2282 02:09:30,240 --> 02:09:34,640 Speaker 1: a heavy bag. Yes, yes, yes, my man, I appreciate you. 2283 02:09:35,120 --> 02:09:37,800 Speaker 1: George Lopez, man uh, I just wanted to talk to 2284 02:09:37,880 --> 02:09:40,080 Speaker 1: you man on this on my show, and UH can 2285 02:09:40,240 --> 02:09:46,840 Speaker 1: come from a different It is the fastest whatever I think. Yeah, 2286 02:09:47,040 --> 02:09:48,920 Speaker 1: it really is. It's like twenty three minutes right now. 2287 02:09:49,040 --> 02:09:50,560 Speaker 1: But I just want to let you know, just when 2288 02:09:50,600 --> 02:09:52,360 Speaker 1: people come on money, make a conversation. Man, I have 2289 02:09:52,480 --> 02:09:55,080 Speaker 1: no agenda, but your greatness need to be discussed. I 2290 02:09:55,160 --> 02:09:57,280 Speaker 1: just want to let people hear a little bit of you. 2291 02:09:57,560 --> 02:10:01,440 Speaker 1: You because there's a man behind those shakes. Let me 2292 02:10:01,520 --> 02:10:03,920 Speaker 1: say that. Let me say that, you know, the restaurants 2293 02:10:03,960 --> 02:10:05,480 Speaker 1: and the beer and all that stuff came to me 2294 02:10:05,520 --> 02:10:07,880 Speaker 1: as an opportunity. You know. If there's one thing that 2295 02:10:08,000 --> 02:10:11,080 Speaker 1: we have is we have an imaginative mind. You can 2296 02:10:11,200 --> 02:10:13,720 Speaker 1: be an inventor and come from no place. Everybody who's 2297 02:10:13,720 --> 02:10:16,480 Speaker 1: an in mentor has come from from not from wealth. 2298 02:10:16,520 --> 02:10:18,600 Speaker 1: They come from their own idea. If you have an 2299 02:10:18,680 --> 02:10:21,840 Speaker 1: idea for an invention or something you think is different, 2300 02:10:22,080 --> 02:10:25,280 Speaker 1: don't just live with that idea. Look online, look for 2301 02:10:25,400 --> 02:10:29,720 Speaker 1: these places. Look for a place, because listen, the strangest 2302 02:10:29,760 --> 02:10:32,160 Speaker 1: things can happen to you. Nothing is impossible. And if 2303 02:10:32,200 --> 02:10:35,520 Speaker 1: you have an idea that you think is relevant and 2304 02:10:35,640 --> 02:10:39,400 Speaker 1: it's good, somebody will find that idea. If you reach 2305 02:10:39,480 --> 02:10:42,000 Speaker 1: out and say I have this great idea for something 2306 02:10:43,000 --> 02:10:45,760 Speaker 1: that's true, that's very true, that's very few George Lopez. 2307 02:10:45,840 --> 02:10:47,600 Speaker 1: I don't want to hold you, but man, thank you 2308 02:10:47,640 --> 02:10:49,520 Speaker 1: for taking the time to come on Money Making Conversation 2309 02:10:49,560 --> 02:10:52,400 Speaker 1: and speaking to me. Rashan McDonald my brother, Stay safe, 2310 02:10:52,600 --> 02:10:54,760 Speaker 1: and I will be promoting you throughout my social media 2311 02:10:54,800 --> 02:10:57,160 Speaker 1: and my fan club because people need to know whom 2312 02:10:57,160 --> 02:10:59,160 Speaker 1: you are. Brother, your star, man, you a legend, your 2313 02:10:59,200 --> 02:11:03,680 Speaker 1: accommodation to appreciate. Be safe now, okay, appreciate appreciate it. 2314 02:11:05,000 --> 02:11:07,120 Speaker 1: If you want to hear more Money Making Conversation interviews, 2315 02:11:07,160 --> 02:11:09,440 Speaker 1: please go to Money Mating Conversation dot com. I'm ra 2316 02:11:09,480 --> 02:11:32,360 Speaker 1: Sean McDonald. I'm your host. In this season of giving, 2317 02:11:32,600 --> 02:11:35,360 Speaker 1: Coals has gifts for all your loved ones. 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