Speaker 1: Lots to Say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle is
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Speaker 4: Everybody walk home.
Speaker 1: Welcome, Welcome Matt.
Speaker 2: Good to see you, buddy, Great to see you as always,
Speaker 2: got my Castle pregame hug. Oh you know that's what
Speaker 2: I'm there for. You know, now you just lift you up. Now,
Speaker 2: you just do it just to annoy you.
Speaker 4: I'm not annoyed by it.
Speaker 3: You're a little bit annoyed by You're not a touchy
Speaker 3: Philly person.
Speaker 1: I'm not. You're right, Yeah, I'm not.
Speaker 2: And that's why now I've made it my my world
Speaker 2: to come in.
Speaker 3: And make sure that you know that I'm going to
Speaker 3: give you a hug every time.
Speaker 1: I was doing an interview over here for another one
Speaker 1: of my podcasts and the artist Coby Cala. She has
Speaker 1: a song starts and TOAs makes MAKR call my nose
Speaker 1: beautiful song. Yes, so she's over and I've known her
Speaker 1: a little bit for a while, never known her a
Speaker 1: lot a bit but own her a little bit. Like
Speaker 1: she's done some stuff with me at the Ryeman played
Speaker 1: a show together, she's been on my radio show. We've
Speaker 1: done stuff, but never as full friends. But she lives
Speaker 1: very close to me. And the reason that she came
Speaker 1: over was I saw her walking her dog and I
Speaker 1: was in my car and I was like, Kolbe. She
Speaker 1: was like hey, and I was like, you live right here.
Speaker 1: She was like yeah. I was like, well, I live
Speaker 1: right there, and I was like, come over and jump
Speaker 1: on the podcast. She's like, no problem. So she comes
Speaker 1: over and I'm normal with her because I have a
Speaker 1: bit of a relationship enough that it's not the first
Speaker 1: time I've met her.
Speaker 3: You've got a foundation.
Speaker 1: As limited of a foundation as it is, there's still
Speaker 1: a foundation. And we have probably seven times or we've
Speaker 1: been together, and I'm like, hey, good, come on, I
Speaker 1: come in. And at the end of the interview we
Speaker 1: were talking about because she's very introverted and I'm very introverted.
Speaker 1: When it's not time to be extroverted, Okay, extrovert time
Speaker 1: a plus.
Speaker 3: I've seen both sides of it.
Speaker 1: Yes, introvert, I feel like, ah, probably this room is
Speaker 1: not for me. Nobody wants me here. I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: kind of I'm.
Speaker 3: Going to leave myself.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, We've got at the commissioner's dinner by
Speaker 2: himself and just text them thirty minutes later when I'm.
Speaker 3: At home in bed. Yeah yeah, thanks for that.
Speaker 4: Colby says to me, you're not very warm.
Speaker 1: And I respected it.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 4: I respected it because that's what I want. I love
Speaker 4: when people say that. And I was like, what do
Speaker 4: you mean.
Speaker 1: She's like, well, I came over and you know, we're
Speaker 1: doing this thing, and usually it's like hey, and you
Speaker 1: were like, hey, come on over, grabs seat, and we'll
Speaker 1: just get started.
Speaker 4: And I was like, okay, this is excellent to know
Speaker 4: because I.
Speaker 1: Thought I was extremely warm because I already it's not
Speaker 1: that I didn't get up.
Speaker 3: We already know each other, right, but you didn't like
Speaker 3: I hear you. You's wrong.
Speaker 4: I'm not saying she's wrong. I'm not saying you're wrong,
Speaker 4: but go ahead.
Speaker 2: I'm saying a natural greeting when somebody comes over your
Speaker 2: house to do your podcast, you'd probably get up out
Speaker 2: of that.
Speaker 5: I did get up.
Speaker 3: I'll give her a friendly handshake.
Speaker 1: Broad I just yeah, I did it doesn't.
Speaker 3: Seem like I did. She wasn't feeling the love.
Speaker 1: But it wasn't the same that I would do with
Speaker 1: somebody I've never met. It literally was because if I'd
Speaker 1: never met them, I'd want them to feel so comfortable,
Speaker 1: like thank you so much. Like we just finished taping
Speaker 1: with Randall Cobb, which everybody's gonna beare and I was like,
Speaker 1: so appreciate. It's like Randall think like I wanted him
Speaker 1: to know he didn't know me that, like, we're so
Speaker 1: grateful he took an hour out of his day to
Speaker 1: come and hang out with us. I didn't do that
Speaker 1: with her because I felt like it wasn't needed. And
Speaker 1: I don't like that about me that I just assume
Speaker 1: that there is some sort of friendship foundation or that
Speaker 1: the more normal I am, it means the more I
Speaker 1: like you.
Speaker 3: Okay, so the less you get up in show effort,
Speaker 3: you like them more.
Speaker 4: Kind of, And I know that's backwards. I know that's backward.
Speaker 2: So basically, when you mean Bobby, you better hope that
Speaker 2: first introduction is going to be amazing, y be, it will,
Speaker 2: but it's going downhill from there.
Speaker 1: If I like you, it's like with you, if I
Speaker 1: see you, it's up, boom, let's get started. Because I
Speaker 1: genuinely know you, like you, and enjoy being around you. Therefore,
Speaker 1: I don't need to present some hey, what's up. But
Speaker 1: and that's backward. I get it.
Speaker 3: That's what I do. So that's why the polar opposites attract.
Speaker 3: You're because I am.
Speaker 2: Every single time I see it, I'm like, I'm like
Speaker 2: a little puppy. Look, hey, Bobby, how are you?
Speaker 4: You are one of the friendly You're one of the
Speaker 4: initial friendliest people.
Speaker 3: I have ever met. Hey, I take pride in them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it is, and you should because you're so
Speaker 1: warm and you're so likable so quick.
Speaker 4: I think I'm more of an acquire taste.
Speaker 3: No, You're definitely that way.
Speaker 2: It's just sometimes I think, also, your scheduling is so
Speaker 2: insane that there the effort's got to at some point
Speaker 2: be like, okay, I'll.
Speaker 1: Agree with that a little bit. I think I've but
Speaker 1: it's not fair to people who don't have to.
Speaker 3: It's not But.
Speaker 2: You're how many people do you probably interview on a
Speaker 2: daily basis. You're on the radio, You've got to talk
Speaker 2: to different individuals and always be up and going. That
Speaker 2: sometimes it's fair to say, hey, how are you good
Speaker 2: to see it? Come on, let's let's get on.
Speaker 1: But it was I was only doing that because I
Speaker 1: felt like we were already friends. And what I alsoppreciate.
Speaker 1: It was like Brandon, who has been my friend for
Speaker 1: ten plus years and who runs video for this show.
Speaker 4: I was like, Brandon cold, It's like, well, yeah, I mean.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he was like, He's like, it's not cold,
Speaker 1: it's just you just feel like you don't have to
Speaker 1: go through that song and dance again.
Speaker 3: It's just you.
Speaker 1: I should song and dance a little more. That's what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I should a little more. No, But it's
Speaker 1: it's respect, and I mean that with you. Your thing
Speaker 1: is you want everybody to feel loved. You want me
Speaker 1: to feel loved, and I definitely do, and me I
Speaker 1: want you to feel like we're so close. We don't
Speaker 1: got to do the song and dance.
Speaker 3: All right, I'm not talking to you until we start
Speaker 3: the show next week.
Speaker 1: Well then I'd be like, why's he mad?
Speaker 3: Why is he mad? Why? Well, I'm not mad at all.
Speaker 3: Oh no, I'm mad.
Speaker 2: I'm now so comfortable with you. I'm never gonna like
Speaker 2: give you a bro hug anymore.
Speaker 1: I went to a boxing class. Oh really, three four
Speaker 1: days ago?
Speaker 3: Have you done that before? Ever?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I owned a few boxing gyms in town.
Speaker 3: Of course, you do.
Speaker 2: You find out something new about your entrepreneurship. Gosh, what
Speaker 2: else do you own? I just owned five buildings and
Speaker 2: I own this thing over here. We're putting the new
Speaker 2: studio in boxing gym. Thanks for inviting me to the
Speaker 2: boxing gym. Could I get like a weekly pass?
Speaker 4: The hustle is real and I didn't flex that.
Speaker 3: You just say, I'm just saying, I'm just finding out
Speaker 3: more about it.
Speaker 1: I even went to one that I didn't know.
Speaker 3: Why you own three and you didn't go to the
Speaker 3: one that you own?
Speaker 1: Schedule, I needed to go to a class at a
Speaker 1: certain time and it was kind of last minute.
Speaker 3: Why don't you just call the person that you hired
Speaker 3: to run your gym say hey, this is.
Speaker 1: The time I got do that.
Speaker 2: I would that would make a lot more sense if
Speaker 2: you would own the boxing gym.
Speaker 1: I would never do that.
Speaker 3: But okay, so anyway, you went to a new one.
Speaker 1: I go, yeah, and it's probably like twenty five people,
Speaker 1: and it's probably twenty three females. Ages from anything from
Speaker 1: like nineteen to fifty seven. Right, and there's this like
Speaker 1: an aerobics it's not a jazz er size where you
Speaker 1: just I mean, this isn't my gym.
Speaker 4: I went to a I'm just asking they're bad.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to get a few.
Speaker 4: Yes, Yes, it's a class.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 1: So I don't feel like right now I'm being respected.
Speaker 1: I'm be honest with everybody in the rain right now.
Speaker 3: No, I'm just trying to feel for what you were doing.
Speaker 1: Yes, it was like a jazzer size. So I go
Speaker 1: and there's a giant man in there, so giant that
Speaker 1: if you see them, you know they do something.
Speaker 2: Okay, define giant six seven six seven offensive blind man
Speaker 2: for sure, like a two eighty thuds.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, It's like if I saw you out, I would
Speaker 1: know you did something physical because your frame, your height,
Speaker 1: you're still in shape.
Speaker 2: I get volleyball and basketball. Did you play volleyball basketball?
Speaker 2: I was like, no, I didn't at all. You're six
Speaker 2: six four, Okay, I don't look like a volleyball Yeah,
Speaker 2: you definitely could.
Speaker 1: You're just so much taller than the rest of us
Speaker 1: and I'm six foot and you're still like you walk.
Speaker 1: Why my wife again, it was like, Matt's tall, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, shut up, that's right. That's another I was like,
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm tall, tall to remember me. Guy's
Speaker 1: like three hundred pounds. He's like six seven and he's
Speaker 1: wearing a hat and he got air pods in and
Speaker 1: I'm like, I think I recognize him. Really who is
Speaker 1: What reminded me is when you said the NFL. We
Speaker 1: saw him at the NFL party and we thought he
Speaker 1: is a giant man.
Speaker 3: I mean there were a lot of giants. Giant giant man. Well,
Speaker 3: you left early, so you probably could go gather your
Speaker 3: thoughts and sit there.
Speaker 2: And mingle with white guy, bald headed retired, oh whitworth
Speaker 2: what worse? Here in Tennessee.
Speaker 1: He was here because the Rams and Titans were playing
Speaker 1: and he was jumping in some random boxing class and
Speaker 1: I saw him there.
Speaker 5: Do you know him at all?
Speaker 2: No, I've actually met him at the Super Bowl this
Speaker 2: year one of the nights you were at home and
Speaker 2: went over.
Speaker 3: He shocked me with how big he was.
Speaker 2: And we've played against him before, but on the opposite
Speaker 2: side when they're amongst the Yeah, but he's one of
Speaker 2: the bigger offensive Lineman's yeah.
Speaker 1: Because again we get to see large people and you
Speaker 1: played with large people.
Speaker 3: He's a monster.
Speaker 1: He's a monster.
Speaker 2: He's a monster even in that profession. When you think
Speaker 2: about him. He when I saw him in person and
Speaker 2: shook his hand, I was like, Wow, he's got a
Speaker 2: presence about him. He becaus got that gruffy voice. I
Speaker 2: was like, man, okay, this guy's pretty badass.
Speaker 1: I went and said I to him, but he didn't know.
Speaker 3: I was Did he punch you?
Speaker 1: Thank God?
Speaker 4: No, because it was jacks side just like one in
Speaker 4: two and one and two.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what Because when you said boxing class, I
Speaker 2: thought you're gonna it was a boxing class?
Speaker 3: Where is it?
Speaker 2: But you hit the you hit the pads where the
Speaker 2: guys sing, and then swings over your head and you duck.
Speaker 1: I did that acting like Rocking Balboa Rocky. Sorry, you
Speaker 1: can't make fun of me going jazz. They call it
Speaker 1: rocking Balboa.
Speaker 2: Well it's kind of they that was the name of
Speaker 2: the class, Rocking Balboa, not Rocky because you're not hitting anything.
Speaker 1: He's a giant. He's a giant. And if I were
Speaker 1: what I was thinking was if I were a guy
Speaker 1: like Bryce Young, Tuah, we can walk through the show.
Speaker 3: Some of these I don't know.
Speaker 4: I don't know how you see anything over a guy
Speaker 4: like that.
Speaker 2: That's always the part for me with some of these
Speaker 2: guys with their height, because I remember being back there
Speaker 2: at six four and that was kind of six five
Speaker 2: six four, where those guys in the interior outside you
Speaker 2: get to the six six frame, but you're trying to
Speaker 2: find windows to seat, and a lot of times you
Speaker 2: just get when when the pockets you can't get your
Speaker 2: throwing lane down, so you're trying to sidestep and move
Speaker 2: to try to make sure you've got an angle and
Speaker 2: not throwing it to the opposite team. It would be
Speaker 2: really difficult in some of those circumstances.
Speaker 1: If you're five to ten and you're trying to find
Speaker 1: an outside guy and there's a six to seven tackle.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, like that's for sure in your.
Speaker 3: Way, without a doubt, without a doubt.
Speaker 2: And with Bryce in particular, did you see the shot
Speaker 2: when he first started with the Carolina Panthers, they took
Speaker 2: a shot with him next to the lineman and he
Speaker 2: looked like.
Speaker 3: A popworn player and I was like.
Speaker 2: Wow, I didn't realize house White is but Obviously they've
Speaker 2: developed a skill set over time, because when you're at Alabama,
Speaker 2: you're playing with all those players and the offensive line
Speaker 2: is probably equal to the size of the NFL guys.
Speaker 3: That it's a skill set and they've just developed it
Speaker 3: over time.
Speaker 1: I was super thankful and mus be the last on
Speaker 1: this and then we'll go back and forth with our
Speaker 1: three each. But I didn't want because I've met Andrew
Speaker 1: Whitworth at an award show once on Amazon like ACMs,
Speaker 1: and I didn't want him to be like, oh I
Speaker 1: saw you once and you were a jerk. Going back
Speaker 1: to my sometimes people think I'm not very warm. So
Speaker 1: I really pushed myself to go and say hi because
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have because also.
Speaker 3: The your neighbor here had a major impact.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, oh, because I do feel like
Speaker 1: in my heart, it's almost like don't judge someone. There's
Speaker 1: a saying that's like you can't judge other people on
Speaker 1: their actions, but you on your intentions because you know
Speaker 1: what your intentions are, okay, because you can give yourself
Speaker 1: the credit. Well, I wanted to do this, but I
Speaker 1: didn't and other people and so I my heart was like,
Speaker 1: I'm a nice guy and if he needs anything, I'd
Speaker 1: but I was like, I need to go and have
Speaker 1: an action, so I said, hey, man, Bobones. He had
Speaker 1: no idea, right, no clue, and he was nice. He
Speaker 1: tried for a second to act like you knew who
Speaker 1: I was, and he was like oh, and I was.
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't need this. I was like, hey,
Speaker 1: I just want to say hi, have a good workout.
Speaker 1: And the greatest thing an angel from above. And a woman
Speaker 1: comes up to me, woman young, like twenty five, And
Speaker 1: as he was standing next to me, airpot's still out,
Speaker 1: she goes, hey, are you buy bones?
Speaker 4: I've read both of your books.
Speaker 1: And he looked and he was like, oh, oh, this
Speaker 1: is not just somebody that's annoying me.
Speaker 3: You're like, yes, yes.
Speaker 4: An angel from a book.
Speaker 1: And you may not know who I am, but one
Speaker 1: person does. And she's in this little dancer size class too. Oh,
Speaker 1: don't worry about you want me signed both of your books?
Speaker 1: Don't worry about Yeah, no problem. Oh and have you
Speaker 1: read it?
Speaker 3: No? Okay, don't worry. You'll know who he picks up
Speaker 3: your book for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, big guy, big guy, let's go back and forth.
Speaker 3: I will let you go first.
Speaker 2: Oh well, you know what, I was just looking at
Speaker 2: this past week and it's amazing how many starting quarterbacks
Speaker 2: went down with injuries. Obviously we know Joe Burrow brock
Speaker 2: Perty was out. There's questions whether or not Jane Daniels
Speaker 2: is going to be able to play. But I always
Speaker 2: think about that because for such a long time in
Speaker 2: my career I was in that position as always the backup,
Speaker 2: and just the importance of having somebody that can come
Speaker 2: in and play, especially in the game that the NFL
Speaker 2: game that we play today, and.
Speaker 3: How volatile that that position is.
Speaker 2: That they put all their eggs in one basket saying, hey,
Speaker 2: we're gonna go win with this guy. But how often
Speaker 2: do you see starting quarterbacks go down and now these
Speaker 2: backups are thrust into the spotlight and they've got to
Speaker 2: go out and perform and really will make or break
Speaker 2: your season. A lot of these guys aren't gonna be
Speaker 2: long term, but even JJ McCarthy guy goes out for
Speaker 2: another what two to three weeks with a sprained ankle.
Speaker 2: And now you've got Carson Wentz who they just signed
Speaker 2: before season. We talked about this a few weeks ago.
Speaker 2: We're like, why did they do that. Now he's it's
Speaker 2: gonna be week three of the season and you're starting,
Speaker 2: and you got to expect to go win games for
Speaker 2: this team. And so it's just it's always fascinating when
Speaker 2: you go throughout the course of the season and see
Speaker 2: how many starting quarterbacks go down and how important it
Speaker 2: is to have valuable backups behind those guys, which I
Speaker 2: think is overlooked at time.
Speaker 1: And Minnesota plays Cincinnati in the backup quarterback ball.
Speaker 3: The week, it's gonna be great. It's gonna be great.
Speaker 1: I think I was thinking about which quarterback would rather
Speaker 1: have Wentz or Brownie because Browning played well he did
Speaker 1: last year. Yeah, he had a stint.
Speaker 3: He had a stint where he went in played well.
Speaker 3: He played well.
Speaker 2: Also, wasn't it the year before when when Joe Burrow
Speaker 2: went out with the wrist, where he stepped in in
Speaker 2: that role as well?
Speaker 1: I know last year he played a bunch.
Speaker 6: The year before it was like seven games.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm thinking of.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it was. It wasn't last year.
Speaker 2: It was a year before because last year Joe stayed
Speaker 2: healthy and he was potential MVP and all that stuff.
Speaker 2: The year before it was when he had the wrist
Speaker 2: and he went out and he came in and held
Speaker 2: down the fort. But I mean, I think that he's
Speaker 2: a guy that knows the system, been in the system
Speaker 2: for a long period of time. I mean, Jamar Chase
Speaker 2: had what one hundred and sixty three yards receiving or
Speaker 2: something like that, So he knows how to get the
Speaker 2: ball to the playmakers. And so I'm going with him
Speaker 2: because I just don't know what Carson's going.
Speaker 3: To look like.
Speaker 1: Did you play with Carson Wentz at all? I never
Speaker 1: did because he was a.
Speaker 4: Chief for a minute.
Speaker 1: But I get you in my home. Mixed up, that's
Speaker 1: the problem.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it happens all the time.
Speaker 2: Same type of skill set, maybe same type of skill set.
Speaker 1: It's sorry about that, you guys. Mixed up.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: A lot of injury, A lot of quarterback injuries through
Speaker 1: two weeks. Yeah, Jane Daniels is an interesting one.
Speaker 3: Jane Daniels is injury. Well, they've got Marcus there too.
Speaker 2: Marcus Mariota played a little bit last year when he
Speaker 2: got banged up with I think it was a back
Speaker 2: issue or something. Maybe it was a rib. But they'll
Speaker 2: be in good hands with Marcus. Marcus knows that system
Speaker 2: and he's a perfect fit. A lot of times when
Speaker 2: you look at these backup quarterbacks and you have a
Speaker 2: guy like Jane Daniels, you can't replicate that in your backup.
Speaker 2: But Marcus Mariota is the perfect fit because he's got
Speaker 2: the same type of skill set the RPO game. He
Speaker 2: knows that and played in that type of offense before,
Speaker 2: where they don't have to manipulate or change the game
Speaker 2: plan so dramatically to fit the type of player that
Speaker 2: you now have to put in that position. And I
Speaker 2: think that's where sometimes it's hard. When a quarterback, particularly
Speaker 2: these dual threat running quarterbacks, go in and then they've
Speaker 2: got a pure pocket passer, Your game game plan and
Speaker 2: what you do offensively is going to look completely different
Speaker 2: from that week to the next week, and your team's.
Speaker 3: Got to adapt to that.
Speaker 4: Did you back up Marioda here?
Speaker 3: I did so.
Speaker 1: I saw a clip of after the Ravens had played
Speaker 1: Mariota this year and Derek Henry Meriota. Derek Henery was like,
Speaker 1: where's my guy? Yeah, Like, Derek Henry seems like a
Speaker 1: good dude.
Speaker 3: He's a great dude.
Speaker 1: I don't know him.
Speaker 2: When I when I first met him, I was like,
Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm ever going to break through
Speaker 2: this kid. He was pissed off because we had what's
Speaker 2: his name? Look him up.
Speaker 3: We don't even know what position was running back, running back.
Speaker 6: Chris Chris Johnson, Johnson that before that was Lindell White.
Speaker 3: No Marko Murray.
Speaker 1: Ohkay waita got there. So Chris Johnson and Lindell were
Speaker 1: saying that was yeah, yeah, that was a little too
Speaker 1: far back.
Speaker 2: So when he came in, we had the Marko Murray here,
Speaker 2: so he was really not getting the reps early on
Speaker 2: DeMarco Murray I think went to the Pro Bowl maybe
Speaker 2: that the year rush for over one thousand yards, So
Speaker 2: he was more of a guy that was coming in
Speaker 2: and spilling DeMarco Murray than being the featured back.
Speaker 3: But you could always see it. So there he was
Speaker 3: a little bit more stand.
Speaker 2: Offish, not as probably a guy he's trying to prove
Speaker 2: himself and knew that he just wanted to be on
Speaker 2: the field. But as soon as you saw that second
Speaker 2: year come around and he became that guy, you could
Speaker 2: see his personality and everything change because he's such a
Speaker 2: competitor and he's a great dude, and everybody from Ben
Speaker 2: Jones to what we've had on and everybody else.
Speaker 3: I mean, they love the guy, absolutely love him.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do for mine what I like, what I
Speaker 1: don't like now, what I like through two games and
Speaker 1: even through last year. I do like to kickoff roll
Speaker 1: looks really weird, but it's nice for that play to
Speaker 1: matter and count because for the what ten years before that, again,
Speaker 1: it didn't right, kick it out of the end zone
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, go to commercial, come back all right,
Speaker 1: here we go like it was really like a wasted
Speaker 1: four minutes because they would come back to TV for
Speaker 1: that one play and go back to come yes, yes, right.
Speaker 1: So that is what I like. Now I've shifted on
Speaker 1: this other thing. What I don't like because I fought
Speaker 1: for it during the offseason, and trust me, my fighting
Speaker 1: meant a lot to the NFL.
Speaker 3: It didn't.
Speaker 1: I have a lot of pull when it comes to
Speaker 1: the NFL making rolls. I don't like the toush push anymore.
Speaker 1: I'm now against it.
Speaker 2: I think everybody hates it just because it's utilized with
Speaker 2: such a high success rate.
Speaker 4: That's not why not for me, or.
Speaker 2: Because they don't call when four on the five offensive
Speaker 2: linemen are off sides and they just go and even
Speaker 2: your sinner's line, his head is over the ball lined
Speaker 2: up off sides, where I'm like, there's got to be
Speaker 2: some regulation. They can't regulate it. That's why, right, because
Speaker 2: you're so crowded in there.
Speaker 1: I think everybody they were all being haters in the
Speaker 1: meetings when they're voting on it, and I thought they
Speaker 1: should have kept it because because I invent a rule
Speaker 1: that is within the rule book and it's advantageous to me,
Speaker 1: that doesn't mean you can kick the rule out. However,
Speaker 1: now they can't regulate the play. There was like maybe
Speaker 1: a fumble and they're talking on the broadcast. They're like,
Speaker 1: well you can't really see what's happening in the pile,
Speaker 1: so no fumble.
Speaker 4: So the fact that you the refs can't even see it.
Speaker 1: And yes, we saw the Kancity players lining up in
Speaker 1: the neutral zone occasionally, we saw the two guards jumping
Speaker 1: on two different plays. Yeah, we saw possibly a fumble.
Speaker 1: And it's really boring. Now I don't think because it's
Speaker 1: boring it should be eliminating.
Speaker 3: I think you're thinking because it's boring.
Speaker 4: No, No, yes, it sucks.
Speaker 1: I've always thought it sucked as far as watching, and
Speaker 1: I thought that would be the killer of it, and
Speaker 1: I stood behind it to go. The tush push deserves
Speaker 1: to exist because they found a rule that they can
Speaker 1: manipulate and they shouldn't be punished for that. But now
Speaker 1: it just sucks and they can't call anything. So I
Speaker 1: hate it. Now I'm out. Consider me out of the
Speaker 1: toush push game.
Speaker 2: I think everybody is coming to that conclusion, and that
Speaker 2: rule will be changed next offseason because they're just tired
Speaker 2: of it, and great job by Philly. They're gonna be
Speaker 2: able to Yeah, they're gonna use it all year long,
Speaker 2: so just be prepared. But was it just this one game,
Speaker 2: because I don't think there was as much noise around
Speaker 2: the play until you saw how outrageous it was when
Speaker 2: those guys were jumping off and the situation being down
Speaker 2: at the goal line.
Speaker 1: It also seems, and this could very much not be true,
Speaker 1: it also seems like that play has gotten even more
Speaker 1: violent than it was at the beginning, because now the
Speaker 1: defense is having to meet it with extra violence to
Speaker 1: try to stop it. So the offense has got to
Speaker 1: amplify their violence just to try to stop them from
Speaker 1: stopping it. So now it looks like freaking two thunderbolts
Speaker 1: just crashing down on you, just.
Speaker 2: Like medieval times when you're on the front line and
Speaker 2: they're running, like when you see Brave Heart and it
Speaker 2: goes Yep.
Speaker 1: It was a quarterback crazy. It was interesting because Jalen
Speaker 1: Hurts had a lot of leg power. Now it's like, uh,
Speaker 1: bodies and necks bent at an odd angle, just diving
Speaker 1: for the ground.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's exactly what it is. You know what else
Speaker 2: is crazy about the Eagles for me is aj Brown.
Speaker 2: I think he has five receptions on the entire year,
Speaker 2: and he's on our fantasy team.
Speaker 1: This guy in the second round.
Speaker 2: This guy might be the most skilled wide receiver in
Speaker 2: the league, or he's one of the top wide receivers.
Speaker 2: But as a player, as an individual, if you are
Speaker 2: Aj Brown, you're probably sitting there going, I mean, I
Speaker 2: love being part of a winning organization and I'm team
Speaker 2: first and I want to do it all.
Speaker 3: But you didn't bring me here to block all day.
Speaker 2: You brought me here to be a playmaker, and you've
Speaker 2: got to throw me a bone at some point, because
Speaker 2: that's what wide receivers especially elite wide receivers. They want
Speaker 2: to do They want to get the ball, they want
Speaker 2: to catch it, they want to have an impact on
Speaker 2: the game.
Speaker 1: But you said, which is the headline. He's on your
Speaker 1: fantasy team.
Speaker 3: That's true, and you know who you know, our starting
Speaker 3: quarterback is first week seven points. I was like, you're
Speaker 3: playing the Browns for God's sake, and then now he's
Speaker 3: out for the year. So yeah, it's that's the problem
Speaker 3: with fantasy football. And I never played fantasy football for
Speaker 3: that reason, because you're sitting there judge people on points
Speaker 3: and not rooting for the actual team.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna ask a question, but I really want
Speaker 1: to go to you for the answer. On my second
Speaker 1: one here is that we were talking about like a Browning,
Speaker 1: and more so Browning than like a Carson Wentz, because
Speaker 1: Wentz has had his time starting, right, But you got
Speaker 1: a guy like that who now, even his first.
Speaker 4: Run two years ago, he's the backup.
Speaker 1: And it's not that you're going in mid game because
Speaker 1: your quarterback has a hurt pinky or maybe a concussion
Speaker 1: where he could come back in. But next week we'll
Speaker 1: probably be back or maybe you're in for a spell.
Speaker 1: Browning is the guy unless they sign somebody, which I
Speaker 1: don't know if they will.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they went out and signed two other players as well,
Speaker 3: But what is he is the guy?
Speaker 1: What is it like to now? Like, what is the
Speaker 1: shift like in the locker room when you walk Because
Speaker 1: this happened to you when Brady goes down, it wasn't
Speaker 1: he's going to be out for two weeks? Right, You're
Speaker 1: now the guy?
Speaker 4: How does that change the dynamic in the locker room?
Speaker 2: Well, I think first and foremost, as a quarterback, you
Speaker 2: got to wrap your head around that when you go
Speaker 2: into those type of situations when Joe Burrow goes down,
Speaker 2: you're just going into the game immediately because it's out
Speaker 2: of necessity. You're reacting, You're not as emotional because you
Speaker 2: have to go out right now and play. And then
Speaker 2: all of a sudden it sets in that you're the dude,
Speaker 2: and it not only sets in for you, it sets
Speaker 2: in for the entire team that offense, Jamar Chase T.
Speaker 2: Higgins and they're looking at you like okay, they're asking
Speaker 2: themselves the question, how are we going to be with
Speaker 2: him at calling the plays and run this offense? And
Speaker 2: they've had some experience with him. For me, it was, man,
Speaker 2: I've got to go prove myself. There was a lot
Speaker 2: of mental scrutiny I put myself through of, man, am
Speaker 2: I ready for this moment? Can I go out and
Speaker 2: execute like I know this offense? But at the same time,
Speaker 2: I've got to prove to myself. And then it's about
Speaker 2: going out there and doing it to where you can
Speaker 2: earn the respect of those guys because they're looking at
Speaker 2: you saying, you've got to prove it to me. And
Speaker 2: it's in the huddle, it's the command, it's being able
Speaker 2: to execute on third down, situational football, the things that
Speaker 2: put us in a situation where we can win. Especially
Speaker 2: with a guy like Jamar Chase who demands the ball,
Speaker 2: he also understands, look, I want the ball because I'm
Speaker 2: a stat guy, Like give me the ball. Can you
Speaker 2: do that consistently and be able to help us win?
Speaker 2: So it's hard to overlook it and say just concentrate
Speaker 2: on the task at hand you but you have to
Speaker 2: kind of suppress those inner thoughts that you have where
Speaker 2: your second guess in yourself and go out there and
Speaker 2: just play the game and if you're good enough, it'll
Speaker 2: show up on Sunday.
Speaker 1: Is there an like an added pressure that you don't expect,
Speaker 1: because of course there's pressure now that you're the starter,
Speaker 1: But is our pressure, Well, if I don't perform quickly,
Speaker 1: I won't even be the starter.
Speaker 3: Now they'll pull somebody else in you one hundred percent.
Speaker 2: I felt that throughout this early part of the season,
Speaker 2: and even as even as we had a little success,
Speaker 2: you always know wasn't good enough, because at the end
Speaker 2: of the day, if you don't get the job done,
Speaker 2: then they're gonna bring somebody else in, maybe a veteran guy,
Speaker 2: give him an opportunity, and you know that this is
Speaker 2: your opportunity to extend your career, to go somewhere else,
Speaker 2: to maybe even be a guy like Sam Darnold did
Speaker 2: last year, where you get an opportunity, you go out
Speaker 2: and play well you can now you can transfer that
Speaker 2: into a big time contract or something.
Speaker 3: So there's a lot of pressure that comes.
Speaker 2: Along with that as well of knowing that if you
Speaker 2: don't take advantage of this opportunity, this might be your
Speaker 2: last opportunity and you might not even be in the league.
Speaker 2: If you go out there and shit the bed for
Speaker 2: two weeks in a row and they bring somebody else in.
Speaker 2: Now you're labeled a certain type of player. But if
Speaker 2: you can go in, hold down the fort and play
Speaker 2: well and show that's really what I was able to
Speaker 2: do when I went in with New England because I
Speaker 2: was in my fourth year of a rookie contract, that
Speaker 2: there was no talks or anything.
Speaker 3: Let's bring Castle back. He hadn't even played.
Speaker 2: So if I don't go out there and perform really well,
Speaker 2: or even if I perform a halfway decent for three
Speaker 2: weeks and they put in somebody else, now I'm still
Speaker 2: viewed as just a guy with no experience, can't play,
Speaker 2: can't get it done. But the fact that I went
Speaker 2: out and played the entire season and we were able
Speaker 2: to win ball games, and I played at a high level.
Speaker 3: That's why I played fourteen years in the NFL.
Speaker 1: Did you worry every week they'd bring someone else in,
Speaker 1: that they would find someone else that wanted to come in.
Speaker 1: It was a veteran.
Speaker 3: Well, It's funny because you can't avoid the paper.
Speaker 2: And the noise in the news and all that stuff
Speaker 2: as much as you try to. And you know that
Speaker 2: for the first week or so after Brady went down,
Speaker 2: they'd bring guys in throughout the course of the week
Speaker 2: to try them out. So you're like, oh, goad, see
Speaker 2: what's that mean? Is that writing on the wall? Do
Speaker 2: I have a short leash? Are they going to let me?
Speaker 2: Are they going to let me grow up and learn
Speaker 2: a little bit, make a few mistakes because this is
Speaker 2: my first time starting and build my confidence or is
Speaker 2: it one of those where hey, one bad game and
Speaker 2: that's the end of that and they're going to give
Speaker 2: it to a guy that has a little bit more experience.
Speaker 4: What do you think would have happened if Brady never
Speaker 4: got hurt?
Speaker 3: I probably wouldn't be sitting here with you.
Speaker 1: What do you think you'd be doing? Honestly?
Speaker 2: Honestly, I did a bunch of internships. So I did
Speaker 2: an internship in finance, I did an internship in real estate.
Speaker 2: So I felt like I was pretty well rounded in
Speaker 2: a lot of different arenas of business. And so I
Speaker 2: was a business minor at communication major, and I had
Speaker 2: a lot of good connections through USC that was still
Speaker 2: very prevalent when I was in my first few years.
Speaker 2: So I'd probably be doing one of those industries. To
Speaker 2: be honest with you.
Speaker 1: Had Brady not got hurt. I wouldn't be getting those
Speaker 1: beautiful bean hugs every Yeah, I've.
Speaker 3: Got a great house for sale right down here. Why
Speaker 3: don't you come on over. It's all marble on the inside.
Speaker 1: All right, one more, what do you have my outside
Speaker 1: the box thinking?
Speaker 3: Right here?
Speaker 2: I don't think it's that outside the box. Is Malik
Speaker 2: Neighbors the best wide receiver in the NFL?
Speaker 1: I think most people would look at you like you're
Speaker 1: crazy until they actually look at different.
Speaker 3: Watch the game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, the answer is probably not. But Mann does
Speaker 1: he make a case?
Speaker 3: Man, he's he's in his second year.
Speaker 1: He doesn't have the body of work. That's the only
Speaker 1: reason he can do.
Speaker 3: He doesn't have the body of work you watch, that's true.
Speaker 2: But if you watch pure route running ability, being able
Speaker 2: to attack the ball, anybody that guards him one on one,
Speaker 2: he's creating separation. When I say creating separation in the NFL,
Speaker 2: we say one step separation. He is open, wide open,
Speaker 2: just breaking people off all the time. And I thought
Speaker 2: that when he came out of LSU, I was like,
Speaker 2: this guy is the number one wide receiver in the draft,
Speaker 2: and now he's proving it. It's wild. I think he's
Speaker 2: the sky is the limit for this guy. Yeah, imagine
Speaker 2: if he had a quarterback that was consistent. I mean
Speaker 2: Russ dropped some in so he.
Speaker 3: Did played out of his mind.
Speaker 2: Yes, for a lot of the game. Not all the game,
Speaker 2: but a lot all the game. He threw for four
Speaker 2: hundred and thirty.
Speaker 1: Well, they scored eighty points in the fourth quarter. It
Speaker 1: was like they were just chunking bombs. Yeah, Neighbors is awesome.
Speaker 1: But when you say ls shoot, think of the three
Speaker 1: let's say the two best wide receivers Justin Jefferson they
Speaker 1: were on the same team and Elik Nighbors all the
Speaker 1: LSU guys.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they've got a factory gun. Yeah that's pretty that's
Speaker 2: wide receiver.
Speaker 3: You right there.
Speaker 1: I'll go with my final point. Man, I have a
Speaker 1: lot of points me too. You do have a lot
Speaker 1: over there. Would you pull up kans City schedule? Yep, Okay,
Speaker 1: So I'll do this. RACHEI Rice comes back Week seven.
Speaker 1: The Chiefs need it really bad. They need Worthy Worthy.
Speaker 1: They really need Rice because Rice is multi dimensional. Not
Speaker 1: that Worthy is not. But he was a straight line
Speaker 1: guy for much of last season and then had to
Speaker 1: develop and he did a pretty good job.
Speaker 4: But they still need a straight line guy because they
Speaker 4: don't even have that now.
Speaker 3: They needed a route runner.
Speaker 1: Yes, so it's until week seven until Rachi Rice comes back.
Speaker 1: And without the weapons. You know, you can have all
Speaker 1: the bullets in the world, but if you don't have
Speaker 1: the gun, none's gonna happen with the bullet. And I
Speaker 1: think that's what we're seeing now. You got Patrick Mahomes,
Speaker 1: but unless Patrick Mahomes got somebody to throw to, he's
Speaker 1: not nothing works.
Speaker 3: Well, there's no threat, but there's no deep threat right now.
Speaker 2: That's completely true, and they're not able to run the
Speaker 2: ball consistently. Their running game is Patrick Mahomes running the football,
Speaker 2: and that's not what you want. That's not the formula
Speaker 2: that they want for winning. But at the same time,
Speaker 2: you look at even at that Philly game, and if
Speaker 2: Travis Kelsey catches that ball, it's a different game.
Speaker 3: They're gonna win the game.
Speaker 2: What's gonna keep them in ball games consistently now, which
Speaker 2: you wouldn't say three four years ago. Their defense, Their
Speaker 2: defense is legit. They've got a good defense that will
Speaker 2: keep them in ball games. So it's gonna be possession games.
Speaker 2: It's not gonna be blowouts like we saw early on
Speaker 2: in their career, and they will probably have some of those,
Speaker 2: just because I believe in Andy Reid is a play caller.
Speaker 2: But it definitely handcuffs that offense because of the lack
Speaker 2: of weapon that they have.
Speaker 1: I think without a straight line guy who can extend
Speaker 1: the defense, it hurts the running game, of course it does.
Speaker 4: So when worth these out, those guys can play a little.
Speaker 2: Closer, well, they can trust that they can play mann
Speaker 2: a man on the outside, put an extra defender in
Speaker 2: the box to play the run game, which that naturally
Speaker 2: would tell Patrick Mahomes man, Oh great, I got one
Speaker 2: on ones on the outside. But when you have a
Speaker 2: guy like that and they've got to think about a
Speaker 2: deep threat that softens coverage, they can't always put an
Speaker 2: extra guy or a defender in the box. And then
Speaker 2: that's when you get favorable numbers to be able to
Speaker 2: run the ball consistently, and that's not they just don't
Speaker 2: have that guy right now.
Speaker 5: Kevin, can you walk me through Week three, four.
Speaker 1: Five, and six.
Speaker 6: Week three Sunday Night at the Giants.
Speaker 1: I think they can win that game.
Speaker 3: I think they could win that.
Speaker 4: They need to win that game if they lose that game.
Speaker 1: I think it's this sucks. Yeah, yeah, that will really suck.
Speaker 3: I still think they make the playoffs. I do too. Yeah.
Speaker 6: Next, yeah, because then they play the Ravens.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I don't think they're gonna win that.
Speaker 1: So let's say they're one. Let's say they're one and three.
Speaker 1: Let's go worst case scenario, one and three go ahead.
Speaker 6: Then the Lions, Oh no, sorry, Jaguars Verus at Jacksonville.
Speaker 3: Two and three, Okay, then the Lions.
Speaker 1: Okay, I think two and four is a worst case scenario.
Speaker 1: Then to get weapons, I think they're still in the mix.
Speaker 2: For sure, they're in the mix. I mean, Chargers have
Speaker 2: another divisional game this week.
Speaker 1: Broncos lost. Broncos lost, I mean, so they should have
Speaker 1: never lost that game. They should have lost the game.
Speaker 1: But yes, I agree. I think the Chiefs if they
Speaker 1: can two and four three, can you imagine if it's
Speaker 1: crazy if they're three and three.
Speaker 4: Though, if they're three and three and they get their weapons.
Speaker 1: I think the Chiefs can still win the Super Bowl.
Speaker 6: The final game without him is the Raiders.
Speaker 1: What week is that bust the Raiders six?
Speaker 4: Okay, I think they can win that Raiders game.
Speaker 3: I mean, they're gonna when they're three and three.
Speaker 2: Yeah, when you watch their first two games against really
Speaker 2: good ball ball teams, they're still in the mix.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: What sucked is that first game they actually had. What
Speaker 1: are they playing though? For the most part?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true. But Justin Herbert looks, dude, how good
Speaker 3: does he look?
Speaker 4: There are two games?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Chunkin' and Keenan Allen came back with a vengeance.
Speaker 2: Did he's a playmaker psycho Marion Hampton. But that defense
Speaker 2: is tough too, man, they're really good.
Speaker 1: Let's quickly walk through the schedule this week. Dolphins and Bills.
Speaker 2: That's an easy billerund I think the Dolphins are headed
Speaker 2: in the right direction.
Speaker 1: On opposite day my god.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, what a dumpster fire.
Speaker 1: That's that's probably deadman walking coach.
Speaker 3: Huh feels like it.
Speaker 2: I mean even watching his press conference and we know
Speaker 2: that he handles things differently in the media and stuff
Speaker 2: like that, and he's just a.
Speaker 3: Interesting personality together.
Speaker 2: But when things aren't going right and you don't have
Speaker 2: good answers, the quirky, funny guy doesn't really come across well.
Speaker 3: I agree.
Speaker 2: Patriots at Steelers, Patriots Steelers, I believe it is going
Speaker 2: to be a really good football game. Drake May played
Speaker 2: out of his mind last week, which is a great
Speaker 2: sign to see for them, But they also had to
Speaker 2: have that kickoff. They gave him a kick off, then
Speaker 2: a kickoff, and then a kickoff return to take the lead.
Speaker 2: It was crazy. So it's good for them to get
Speaker 2: a win. But then you looked at Pittsburgh last week
Speaker 2: and go, what is going on with their defense?
Speaker 4: What I like about the Patriots is that I expect
Speaker 4: them to get.
Speaker 3: Better every week. That's true.
Speaker 1: I don't expect that with every team, but I think
Speaker 1: they now have the coaching staff that is there to
Speaker 1: develop the team and develop the culture, and I think
Speaker 1: you're going to see the Patriots actually get better, not
Speaker 1: the opposite or not go bad good good bad again.
Speaker 1: It's you know, a Also, there'll be some spotty weeks,
Speaker 1: oh for sure, But I do expect the Patriots to
Speaker 1: slowly grow each week as a team.
Speaker 2: And then sometimes just getting that first win out of
Speaker 2: the way and having a win like they did against
Speaker 2: a division opponent that gives Breed's confidence throughout that entire
Speaker 2: locker room.
Speaker 3: So you come in hungaryer the next week.
Speaker 2: Because you've got a taste of what it tastes like
Speaker 2: to go out there and get a victory. I think
Speaker 2: that really helps that team moving forward. Packers and Browns.
Speaker 2: I mean, the Packers look unstoppable. Yeah, I can't tell
Speaker 2: you that I would pick anybody other than the Packers
Speaker 2: right now in that one.
Speaker 4: I can't tell you I picked the Browns against anybody.
Speaker 3: They they're on the struggle by offensively.
Speaker 1: I feel so bad for Browns fans because I know
Speaker 1: what it's like to lose.
Speaker 3: But how good is Miles Garrett? Did? I love watching
Speaker 3: that guy play? He is an absolute savage.
Speaker 1: Yes, he's awesome. He's awesome the game two weeks ago
Speaker 1: the Browns played the Bank Bengals and he was the
Speaker 1: only He was on Joe Burrow every freaking play.
Speaker 2: I'm telling you it was unreal the disruption that that
Speaker 2: man and can cause on a front. And I guarantee
Speaker 2: every one of those offensive linemen are sitting there going,
Speaker 2: oh my god, we've got to deal with this man.
Speaker 1: Child coltson Titans. I think there is now my new
Speaker 1: favorite nickname in the NFL, and that is Indiana Jones.
Speaker 1: Indiana Jones, Daniel Jones that's my new favorite nickname. Listen.
Speaker 1: I've always been a Daniel Jones guy, even on this podcast.
Speaker 1: I think Daniel Jones has weapons on his own body
Speaker 1: that you and I've said it before because people because
Speaker 1: he's why people don't give him any credit for being fast.
Speaker 1: I like Daniel Jones. I think he's had a really
Speaker 1: good couple of weeks. I don't think he's that consistently
Speaker 1: through the year, but I think he's better than people thought.
Speaker 4: And I think the Colts can give that division a run.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the division is there for the taking.
Speaker 2: To be honest with you, I mean, I don't think
Speaker 2: that there's one team right now that you look at
Speaker 2: whether I would have said Houston to start the year,
Speaker 2: if you're really thinking about a team that probably has
Speaker 2: the pieces to win that division. But the Colts are
Speaker 2: obviously going to be competitive. They're very competent at the
Speaker 2: quarterback position. Now, you don't know what you're going to
Speaker 2: get right now with Tennessee because there's just that development
Speaker 2: factor for Cam Word in that team. And then Jacksonville,
Speaker 2: I don't know, they have the talent to be really
Speaker 2: good and really competitive, but they just haven't put it
Speaker 2: together yet.
Speaker 1: Oh you mean with the Titan Why Jacksonville were about Jacksonville?
Speaker 3: They're in that division.
Speaker 1: Oh, in the division? Yeah, I thought you went off
Speaker 1: a different game already.
Speaker 3: No, yeah, you're right.
Speaker 1: I'm just talking about Jacksonville looks odd right now.
Speaker 3: Colts have an opportunity to win that division.
Speaker 1: I agree, Jacksonville looks odd on the field, meaning they
Speaker 1: got a weird coach, Liam Cohen. I don't know Lam Cohen.
Speaker 1: Do you know him?
Speaker 3: No? I don't know.
Speaker 1: He's like what Miami has, and they if they don't win,
Speaker 1: his quirkiness is going to be why people don't like him.
Speaker 1: And if they do, his quirkiness is going to be
Speaker 1: why people love him love him because it's different. But yeah,
Speaker 1: that division is right for the taking. Let's do three
Speaker 1: other games that I have here. Okay, I want to
Speaker 1: go to the Cowboys and the Bears. First of all,
Speaker 1: who do you think is favorite?
Speaker 3: Cowboys? No, the Bears are favorite.
Speaker 1: Isn't that?
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 4: How Bears minus one and a half.
Speaker 2: They just give up forty something to and well they
Speaker 2: did play the Lions, but then and they suck. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and Dallas's offense is high octane. They're going to go
Speaker 2: out and score points. I guess it's probably a reflection
Speaker 2: of Dallas's defense right now.
Speaker 3: They've been banged up in the secondary.
Speaker 2: They just played the Giants, which nobody thought that the
Speaker 2: Giants were going to go up there and put up
Speaker 2: five hundred yards of offense and score forty points. So
Speaker 2: maybe they're thinking this is the week that Caleb Williams
Speaker 2: has his coming out party.
Speaker 3: Maybe.
Speaker 1: But man, the Cowboys, I mean, I feel like the
Speaker 1: Cowboys are a better team than the Bears.
Speaker 2: The Bears look like a disaster. Well, can they go
Speaker 2: blow for blow with them offensively? I'd say no. And
Speaker 2: that's the thing for the Cowboys this year is how
Speaker 2: long can it last where the offense has to outscore
Speaker 2: the opponent, where the defense at some point has to
Speaker 2: step up and hold an opponent to not forty points.
Speaker 3: I promise you.
Speaker 4: That it feels like the Bengals last year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Cowboys does a bit like they're going to
Speaker 2: have to score forty points to be in the game.
Speaker 4: And they can, but it's hard to do that consistent.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Clowney coming in this week, them signing them,
Speaker 2: they knew that they.
Speaker 3: Need a little help.
Speaker 2: Hopefully he can give hit them another pass rusher on
Speaker 2: the outside that has a presence because they need it.
Speaker 1: Two other games, we'll do Jets at Bucks. And I
Speaker 1: only want to say this game because Baker Mayfield is
Speaker 1: that dude.
Speaker 2: He's that dude to fourth quarter two minute drill come
Speaker 2: like I mean last week, and I just love the
Speaker 2: way he plays the passion, how he puts his body online.
Speaker 2: He got banged up all day, but in the biggest moments,
Speaker 2: the guy steps up, he makes throws, he does it
Speaker 2: with his legs, and he's just a competitor.
Speaker 3: I love watching him play.
Speaker 1: Final game, we'll talk about Monday night Lions at Ravens.
Speaker 1: You expect the Ravens to win, but it was nice
Speaker 1: to see the Lions. Well, I mean they look like
Speaker 1: the Lions. Yeah, and they went a little extra hard.
Speaker 3: Yeah they did.
Speaker 2: For sure, we gotta come back from last week against
Speaker 2: Screen Bay.
Speaker 3: But they had a great game plan.
Speaker 2: They did give up some points, but at the end
Speaker 2: of the day, it was good to see them because
Speaker 2: I think this is going to be one of those knockdown,
Speaker 2: drag out brawls. They're both super physical teams, they've got
Speaker 2: skill on the outside.
Speaker 3: It'll it'll be a good showing.
Speaker 1: I also think Dan Campbell wanted to let Ben Johnson know, Hey, look,
Speaker 1: you might be the guy there now, and you know
Speaker 1: a lot of people may be giving you credit for
Speaker 1: what we did last year. But right now, in this
Speaker 1: moment in time, we're going to score sixty it's a
Speaker 1: show meeting, Yes, sixty points. So we're gonna do something
Speaker 1: interesting this week. So that's the that's the end of
Speaker 1: this one. So that's my castle. We'll do the whole
Speaker 1: thing in Bobby Ballin's that's kick off Kevin, that's Brandon Ray.
Speaker 1: We have another episode two that's gonna come out probably
Speaker 1: very soon right after this. They both they may both
Speaker 1: already be up.
Speaker 3: Now are you guys? You're friends with him? Who? I
Speaker 3: guessed Randall?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, okay, yeah, I'd say we're friends. I mean
Speaker 2: we're getting to know each other. We've been at a
Speaker 2: bunch of different dinners and stuff together.
Speaker 4: Because there's not a secret guest coming in.
Speaker 3: Oh, I was like, who are you talking?
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's not someone come up from behind the curtain.
Speaker 2: Well, well you're like yeah, and then we're gonna have
Speaker 2: another one. I was like, we do we do another?
Speaker 3: Pub We did?
Speaker 1: We did we did like forty five minutes to raandle Cobb.
Speaker 3: I know, but I didn't know that. I thought you
Speaker 3: were talking about something else. I was like, did we
Speaker 3: record something? I don't know?
Speaker 1: Norand that's great to play. This is your life from
Speaker 1: like your eighth grade coach. Bring him on out.
Speaker 2: Yes, I've known Randall obviously we played against each other,
Speaker 2: but I didn't get to know him until he got
Speaker 2: here to Nashville, and so we're building that friendship. We
Speaker 2: have been able to meet his wife, his kids and
Speaker 2: all that stuff, and he's a great guy.
Speaker 1: All right, check out the episode it's with Randall Kyle.
Speaker 1: All right, thank you for this episode.
Speaker 2: That's it.
Speaker 1: We've had lots to say, goodbye, everybody, lots to say
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