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Speaker 2: NBA playoffs have not.

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Speaker 1: Been very kind to us in the last few weeks,

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Speaker 1: I should say, in the last week or so. As

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Speaker 1: we have yet another blowout tonight as the Pacers destroy

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Speaker 1: the New York Knicks to send this to a game

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Speaker 2: We're gonna break that game down.

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Speaker 1: From the perspective of both teams, but I want to

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Speaker 1: I want to bounce around the rest of the league

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Speaker 1: the course of the rest of the postseason. All right,

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Speaker 1: let's talk some basketball. So wild oscillations and effort that

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Speaker 1: have been the story of this series since Game three.

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Speaker 1: Game three was that kind of like pivot point where

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Speaker 1: it felt like it could have gone the other way

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Speaker 1: for the Knicks, but unfortunately we get for the Knicks,

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Speaker 1: I should say the Andrew Nemhart hits that three and

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Speaker 1: it's two to one, and then we the injuries start

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Speaker 1: to stack up. It becomes a problem to get blown

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Speaker 1: out in game four, then the Pacers get blown out

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Speaker 1: in Game five, and then the Knicks get blown out

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Speaker 1: in game six. It's just been going back and forth.

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Speaker 1: The gap and effort was apparent from the jump. There

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Speaker 1: Andrew Nemar gets a pretty decent look at three at

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Speaker 1: Tyres Halliburton hits a three in the chaos after it

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Speaker 1: it's like, this is an opportunity to close out the

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Speaker 1: from the that was just abundantly clear. Obviously Indiana was

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Speaker 1: There was a play that I thought kind of demonstrated

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Speaker 1: looks out of duce McBride slipping out of that kind

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Speaker 1: But in the hedge and recover, remember Haliburton when he

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Speaker 1: but then he's got to sprint back and recover, and

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Speaker 1: in Game five, he just wasn't doing it. He just

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Speaker 1: was lingering way too long, and so the duce McBride

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Speaker 1: which would allow duce McBride to just make easy reads

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Speaker 1: mid range two where Halliburton's offering some back pressure and

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Speaker 1: it's like, that's just better execution of a coverage that

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Speaker 1: lot after the Timberwolves Nuggets game last night, because there

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Speaker 1: That was the main like difference schematically between what the

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Speaker 1: the top of screens, like every little detail, even just

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Speaker 1: little things like battles where Karl Anthony Towns was trying

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Speaker 1: sudden he's going through people and getting easy hook shots

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Speaker 1: in game six, right, So like, so much of this

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Speaker 1: that naturally take place as urgency shifts back and forth

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Speaker 1: the story of this game. The Knicks were really bad

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Speaker 1: in transition defense, in particular, they kept like not getting

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Speaker 1: because they just didn't have their shell set up. And again,

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Speaker 1: like all of you guys who have played basketball at

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Speaker 1: any level are familiar with what the shell is. It's

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Speaker 1: basically just you're loaded up defensive principles whenever there's just

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Speaker 1: the guys that are one pass away are typically up

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Speaker 1: in the past lane, right, the guys that are two

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Speaker 1: passes away usually have a foot in the paint. That's

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Speaker 1: like just the very very basic version of what a

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Speaker 1: shelle is, right, And like every team's gonna have different

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Speaker 1: like if there's a guy like in this play, Andrew

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Speaker 1: Nemhard was driving a close out in transition on the

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Speaker 1: probably gonna have to kick and then it's gonna turn

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Speaker 1: into like a driving kick kind of close out situation. Right,

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Speaker 1: but if you're not loaded up, then themhard can easily

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Speaker 1: getting matched up was a big problem. They gave Siakam

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Speaker 1: like it was just a really poor execution effort game

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Speaker 1: from the Knicks. Pascal Siakam really carried the offense early

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Speaker 1: bounce back game after having a rough game. Five had

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Speaker 1: a driving dunk earlier off the left wing that I

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Speaker 1: the early second quarter where the Knicks cut it to

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Speaker 1: as a score, really got going with this pull up

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Speaker 1: felt like there were two chances in this game for

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Speaker 1: it into something that could have been a closer and

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Speaker 1: more competitive game, and in both situations, the Pacers were

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Speaker 1: the team that ended up taking control instead. In the

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Speaker 1: middle second quarter, the game was tied at forty six

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Speaker 1: at one point, and the Pacers just really locked in defensively.

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Speaker 1: They held the Knicks to just two points over the

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Speaker 1: A lot of really good individual and team defense. Aaroney

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Speaker 1: he forced Brunston to pick up his dribble and then

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Speaker 1: pressured him and forced him into a really difficult kind

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Speaker 1: that run where they held the Knicks to only two points,

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Speaker 1: they ended up scoring fourteen of their own, and INDI

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Speaker 1: So if you guys got anything interesting, anything's fair game,

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Speaker 1: fIF like somewhere in that twelve to eighteen points range, right, Like,

432
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Speaker 1: every one of those games from Game three four and

433
00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:03,760
Speaker 1: five kind of looked the same, right in terms of

434
00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:07,200
Speaker 1: like Minnesota's offense really struggling. I want to say five

435
00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:10,720
Speaker 1: times in those six halves they failed to reach fifty points.

436
00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:12,680
Speaker 1: If I remember correctly, I need to go back and

437
00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:14,280
Speaker 1: double check. It might have been four times, but they

438
00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:17,240
Speaker 1: were consistently being held under fifty points and a half.

439
00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:19,800
Speaker 1: Like Minnesota just couldn't score. And Denver had a one

440
00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:22,440
Speaker 1: twenty eight or one twenty seven and change offensive rating

441
00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:24,919
Speaker 1: over those three games, So like that was the difference, right,

442
00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:28,800
Speaker 1: But in games two, in game six games where Denver

443
00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:32,840
Speaker 1: really struggles offensively and they are not bringing that same

444
00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:37,119
Speaker 1: level of defensive pressure, that's where Minnesota's athleticism advantage just

445
00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:39,320
Speaker 1: comes screaming off the screen, and all of a sudden,

446
00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:41,720
Speaker 1: it's like, wow, they just look so much faster, so

447
00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:44,800
Speaker 1: much lankier, and like they just bring so much more

448
00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:48,840
Speaker 1: like downhill force through Anthony Edwards running his lane and

449
00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:51,840
Speaker 1: like Kat bullying his way to the basket, Nas Reid

450
00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:53,879
Speaker 1: driving and dunking on people. Like there's just like a

451
00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:58,639
Speaker 1: level of athleticism that pops for Minnesota when Denver doesn't

452
00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:00,639
Speaker 1: have control of the game. But as long as Denver

453
00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:04,919
Speaker 1: can control the game. The athleticism stuff doesn't matter as much.

454
00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:08,200
Speaker 1: It's just it's very much been to me, like when

455
00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:11,879
Speaker 1: Minnesota wins those battles, it's just more extravagant of a

456
00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:16,480
Speaker 1: deficit because their athleticism advantage is so big. Does the

457
00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:20,040
Speaker 1: winner of Game seven in Minnesota Denver instantly become the

458
00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:23,240
Speaker 1: title favorite. So I one of the things that I

459
00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:26,000
Speaker 1: was high on. I was much higher on Minnesota after

460
00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:28,919
Speaker 1: Game two of this series in the sense that I

461
00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:31,760
Speaker 1: looked at they had a lot going for them offensively,

462
00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:33,520
Speaker 1: and there were a bunch of different things that were

463
00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:36,520
Speaker 1: clicking that weren't clicking in the regular season that had

464
00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:39,680
Speaker 1: them looking really good on offensively. Cat was like consistently

465
00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:42,520
Speaker 1: good on offense every night. The Keil Alexander Walker was

466
00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:45,200
Speaker 1: consistently good on offense every single night. Kat's three point

467
00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:48,199
Speaker 1: shot in particular was just like deadly locked in and

468
00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:49,560
Speaker 1: Ant was playing super well.

469
00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:51,320
Speaker 2: But then we found out over the course.

470
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Speaker 1: Of the series, particularly Game three, four, and five, like

471
00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:57,399
Speaker 1: Aunt has had some resiliency in his ability to score

472
00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:00,679
Speaker 1: the basketball throughout the different circumstances of the series, but

473
00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:02,760
Speaker 1: the rest of his team is not, and that has

474
00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:06,480
Speaker 1: been pretty standard for what we've seen from Minnesota all season,

475
00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:08,800
Speaker 1: except for it's been even more exaggerated because it wasn't

476
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Speaker 1: as good in the regular season. Right, And so when

477
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Speaker 1: I look at Denver versus Boston, I think Denver is

478
00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:18,560
Speaker 1: to me clearly just the safer bet because they're more

479
00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:22,359
Speaker 1: consistently operating at their ceiling. But if we imagine a

480
00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:25,560
Speaker 1: Minnesota versus Boston final, Boston's going to be able to

481
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Speaker 1: do a lot of the same damage to Minnesota's offense

482
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Speaker 1: that Denver has done to Minnesota's offense. And Boston also

483
00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:37,000
Speaker 1: has this incredibly high powered offense that can look to

484
00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:40,240
Speaker 1: attack entry points. One of the unique things that makes

485
00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:44,480
Speaker 1: Boston's offense so scary is when you have five starting

486
00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:47,760
Speaker 1: caliber players out there when Porzingis is healthy, or six

487
00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:50,920
Speaker 1: with the five when Porzingis is not healthy and six

488
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,480
Speaker 1: twenty is. But when Porzingis is out there with that

489
00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:56,040
Speaker 1: starting group, not only do you have five high powered

490
00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:58,760
Speaker 1: offensive players, you have five high powered offensive players that

491
00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:01,760
Speaker 1: are all great at attack king matchups. Drew Holliday can

492
00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:04,440
Speaker 1: really do damage to smaller guards in the post. Chris

493
00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:07,640
Speaker 1: Apps Porzingas can really do damage on switches in the post.

494
00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:09,840
Speaker 1: Jalen Brown can do the same thing, so can Tatum.

495
00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:12,680
Speaker 1: Derek White obviously is an offensive initiator of a different type,

496
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:14,280
Speaker 1: but can also do a lot of damage. And so

497
00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:16,560
Speaker 1: one of the things is, like, you can't really hide

498
00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:19,399
Speaker 1: defenders against Boston the way that you can against other teams.

499
00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:23,679
Speaker 1: And like, if if Jada McDaniels is gonna guard Jylen

500
00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:25,520
Speaker 1: Brown and uh and.

501
00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:27,439
Speaker 2: Drew Holliday is gonna guard or if.

502
00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:31,439
Speaker 1: Anthony Everags is gonna guard Jason Tatum, or however it

503
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:34,320
Speaker 1: is that they split up the matchups, Conley's gonna have

504
00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:37,480
Speaker 1: to guard one of them, you know, Carl Anthony Towns

505
00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 1: was gonna have to guard one of them. Carl Anthony Towns, Like,

506
00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:41,720
Speaker 1: my guess is they'll probably end up putting him on

507
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,000
Speaker 1: like Drew Holliday and trying to let him roam around

508
00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:45,679
Speaker 1: if they end up in that type of series. But

509
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:48,880
Speaker 1: like that, Drew Holliday's a really good cutter and he's

510
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:50,880
Speaker 1: he's found ways to be useful off the ball. He's

511
00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:52,720
Speaker 1: been a deadly catching and shoot guy in the regular season,

512
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:54,320
Speaker 1: not so much in the playoffs, but he's made a

513
00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:56,720
Speaker 1: few more as of late. But like Boston has like

514
00:23:56,800 --> 00:24:01,040
Speaker 1: a a plethora of shot creation, a bbility that makes

515
00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,959
Speaker 1: them a very difficult challenge in their own rights. So like,

516
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stick with what I said right around the

517
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 1: time that Minnesota was kicking the shit out of Phoenix,

518
00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,719
Speaker 1: which is like, I look at Denver and Boston as

519
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,639
Speaker 1: the top two teams, and Minnesota for me, joined that

520
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:20,320
Speaker 1: tier with their performance through the first two rounds of

521
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:24,240
Speaker 1: the playoffs, And so yeah, I think if Denver loses,

522
00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:27,679
Speaker 1: Boston becomes the favorite. I think if Denver wins, Denver

523
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:30,600
Speaker 1: stays the favorite. But certainly all three of those teams

524
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:34,240
Speaker 1: have a really good chance. When was the last time

525
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:37,720
Speaker 1: you were able to get practiced with guitar? So it's

526
00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:40,000
Speaker 1: actually kind of a funny story. I played a lot

527
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:43,600
Speaker 1: when I was a kid. My dad was a diehard

528
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 1: Alman Brothers fan, so I kind of grew up on

529
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,439
Speaker 1: blues a lot of like Duyne Allman, Derek Truck's, you know,

530
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,760
Speaker 1: Warren Haynes, Sticky Bats, those kinds of guys. And when

531
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:55,359
Speaker 1: I went to go play basketball in college, I moved

532
00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:59,239
Speaker 1: into a dorm up in up in Utah, and so

533
00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:01,960
Speaker 1: I didn't bring my guitars with me and I just

534
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:05,760
Speaker 1: kind of stopped, and like I stopped for a long time.

535
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:10,920
Speaker 1: It wasn't until I was probably I want to say,

536
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,199
Speaker 1: I want to say it was like two thousand. It

537
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:16,960
Speaker 1: was right around like twenty nineteen, twenty twenty. Relatively recently.

538
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 1: Two things kind of got me back into it. One,

539
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:24,480
Speaker 1: I discovered the John Mayer Grateful Dead the whole thing,

540
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:27,440
Speaker 1: where like I'd always thought of John Mayer as John Mayer,

541
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:28,840
Speaker 1: you know, and like I didn't even know he was

542
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,399
Speaker 1: doing this kind of music. And my older brother, who

543
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:33,920
Speaker 1: was also a big guitar guy and a big blues guy,

544
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:35,560
Speaker 1: he ended up sending me a link one day that

545
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:37,639
Speaker 1: was like, hey, check this out, and it was John

546
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,639
Speaker 1: Mayer playing Alfhea and I was like, holy shit, this

547
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,760
Speaker 1: is awesome. And right around the same time, my brother

548
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 1: in law, who doesn't play guitar, gave me a guitar

549
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:49,359
Speaker 1: that he had sitting around. I didn't even I didn't

550
00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 1: even have one like my old ones that I genuinely

551
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:55,360
Speaker 1: don't even remember what happened to him, And so I

552
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 1: it was just an acoustic guitar that my older brother,

553
00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:00,320
Speaker 1: my brother in law, gave me, and I played it

554
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,440
Speaker 1: for a little bit, and I remembered that I loved it,

555
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 1: and so like two days later, I went down to

556
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:07,200
Speaker 1: a guitar center and bought like a cheap it's this

557
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,439
Speaker 1: epiphone and Les Paul that I have over here, and

558
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:11,399
Speaker 1: then immediately I was like being a kid again. I

559
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:12,720
Speaker 1: just fell in love with it again. And then I

560
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 1: got like super hooked. And one of the things that

561
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 1: about me that's like kind of different than it was

562
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 1: when I was a kid is like I really struggled

563
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:25,720
Speaker 1: to work hard on things that I that I don't

564
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:27,479
Speaker 1: have a passion for, and I just have a passion

565
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 1: for guitar, and so it's like really easy for me

566
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,879
Speaker 1: to work on it. But that said, I don't devote

567
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 1: as much time to it as I do basketball right now.

568
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 1: My guess is, whenever my knees fail me or whenever

569
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 1: I have some sort of serious injury that causes me

570
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 1: to stop playing basketball, I'll probably devote a lot more

571
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:46,120
Speaker 1: time to playing guitar. But it's definitely like something that

572
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 1: I that I love to do and that I'd like

573
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:49,639
Speaker 1: to do more and more as I get older. I

574
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 1: joke with my wife, there are a lot of dive

575
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:54,119
Speaker 1: bars here in Tucson. I'd love to be that like

576
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 1: fifty sixty year old dude who like goes down on

577
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 1: a Tuesday and like plays cover band music at a

578
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:04,199
Speaker 1: dive bar. Just I just I just love that that

579
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 1: kind of music. All right, Let's see when is a

580
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 1: good time to pull the plug when losing in playoff games?

581
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,479
Speaker 1: If not down twenty with five minutes remaining in game

582
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:12,920
Speaker 1: seven forty eight hours away, then when, I mean, that's

583
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:14,399
Speaker 1: really it is like I think when you're I think

584
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 1: when you get down twenty plus with like right around

585
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 1: like seven minutes left in that fourth quarter, you're almost

586
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,359
Speaker 1: better off buying rest for the next game.

587
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:26,880
Speaker 2: Do you watch the MCU. I watched the entire whatever you.

588
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:31,120
Speaker 1: Call it, phase one with the Fanos story everything through

589
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 1: Avengers endgame.

590
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,920
Speaker 2: Loved those. My wife and I a couple times over

591
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,160
Speaker 2: the years of rewatch them too. Was a big fan.

592
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of like anything that's like fantasy

593
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 1: based and that has deep story building and like deep

594
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 1: world building, and the MCU has been like that for me.

595
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 1: But I've had a really hard time getting into it

596
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 1: in the next phase. It's just the villains haven't been

597
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 1: as interesting the characters haven't been as interesting. I've just

598
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 1: had a I've had a hard time getting into it.

599
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:59,200
Speaker 1: Do you classify Jimmy Butler's heat as real contenders or overachievers?

600
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 1: I look at them kind of like in between. I

601
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 1: think they're like the To me, they're like the bouncer

602
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 1: at the championship club, but they're not actually in the club.

603
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:07,719
Speaker 1: What I mean by that is like, if you're a

604
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,359
Speaker 1: fraudulent team and you run into Miami, you're gonna lose

605
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 1: when they have Jimmy and Bam healthy. But every time

606
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:15,640
Speaker 1: they end up running into a team that actually has

607
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 1: championship ability, whether it's the Nuggets last year, or it's

608
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,480
Speaker 1: the Lakers in twenty twenty or that Celtics team in

609
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, which I actually think was better than

610
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:25,960
Speaker 1: some of these other Celtics teams because they were so

611
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,200
Speaker 1: much more engaged on the defensive end of the floor.

612
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:32,679
Speaker 1: They he just eventually run out of firepower. And so

613
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:34,920
Speaker 1: there's a lot of guards available this summer. Whether it's

614
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 1: de Jontae Murray, or it's Darius Garland or Donovan Mitchell,

615
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 1: or it's or Trey Young or whatever it is, there's

616
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 1: a lot of there's just a lot of guys available

617
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 1: this summer. I think Jeremy Grant could be available this summer.

618
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 1: Brandon Ingram could be available this summer. So, like the Heat,

619
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 1: just have to get one of those guys. They simply

620
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 1: do and they have to give it a shot with

621
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 1: Jimmy and Bam and one of those guys to see

622
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 1: if they can get something.

623
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Speaker 2: Do you think a good SGA.

624
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 1: Player comp would be the late late nineties MJ with

625
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 1: the way his offensive approaches along with the shot profile,

626
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 1: but now as great as an athlete, you.

627
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 2: Know, I don't really see MJ in Shae.

628
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 1: Shay is such a hesitation based, like stop start, kind

629
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 1: of like methodical player. He's honestly like super unique and

630
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 1: even like his release it's kind of like slow but

631
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 1: then quick at the end, like he kind of has

632
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 1: like a long load up but then a quick snap

633
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 1: at the end. Shay is a very very unique player

634
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 1: that I think is hard to find comps in NBA

635
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 1: history and so like, honestly, that's just kind of unique

636
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 1: about him and one of the things that I think

637
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 1: is really cool about SGA. He's another one of those

638
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 1: guys kind of like Luca where I feel like young

639
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 1: players should watch him because his handle is a lot

640
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 1: tighter than I think people realize. And specifically, like you

641
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 1: will see Shae get into contact with defenders and then

642
00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 1: hit a dribble combination. In that dribble comp we'll just

643
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 1: kind of get the defender to lose his like base

644
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 1: and then he'll wait for you to lean one way or.

645
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 2: To maybe take a hop.

646
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:10,479
Speaker 1: And when it's like, as soon as the think of it,

647
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Speaker 1: like this, whenever an offensive player sees a defensive player

648
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Speaker 1: come off of his feet in any way shape or

649
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Speaker 1: form or get his footwork messed up, he can't plant

650
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Speaker 1: to make the next slide, So like that's the perfect

651
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Speaker 1: time to try to hit the gap. Is like find

652
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Speaker 1: those moments when the defender just kind of hesitates for

653
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Speaker 1: a second. Right Shay has this move where like he'll

654
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Speaker 1: go between the legs slow, but then right when it

655
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Speaker 1: gets to his right hand, then he'll take off and

656
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Speaker 1: it's like it's very much change of pace oriented. There's

657
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Speaker 1: a lot of like really good stuff in there for

658
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Speaker 1: young basketball players to replicate. And he's unique and I

659
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Speaker 1: think that's what makes him kind of a cool player

660
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Speaker 1: in NBA history. What are your thoughts on the Christopher

661
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Speaker 1: Nolan Batman movies. Absolutely loved him. Dark Knight's one of

662
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Speaker 1: my favorite movies to watch. It's been a while since

663
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Speaker 1: I've gone back to see him, but really really enjoyed

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Speaker 1: the Christopher Nolan Batman movies. So the seventy six ers

665
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Speaker 1: pursue Paul George, Yeah, they should pursue again. He's another

666
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 1: one of those guys in that long list of stars

667
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 1: that I just unleashed. But like, they got to get

668
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 1: one of those guys, right, Like, I think Embiid has

669
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 1: a little bit more of a clock on him than

670
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 1: people realize with his injury history, and so you got

671
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 1: to try to give it a go. Also, if Embiid

672
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Speaker 1: is gonna make it to the playoffs and be ready

673
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 1: to go, you have to cut substantially down on his

674
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Speaker 1: workload and make it so that he can load manage

675
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Speaker 1: throughout the season. And the only way you're gonna do

676
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 1: that is if you get a secondary star, because as

677
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 1: we saw last year, there was a moment towards the

678
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 1: end of the Embiid injury phase where Maxi kind of

679
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 1: regained control and had them hovering around five hundred, but

680
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 1: they dropped a bunch of games at the beginning, so

681
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 1: in totality they were below five hundred for that whole stretch,

682
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 1: and so I think they just need a little bit

683
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 1: more firepower to be able to weather Embedd being out

684
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 1: of the lineup. Who's a better chance against the Celtics.

685
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 1: The Pacers are the Knicks with all the injuries. I

686
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 1: think it's the Knicks, no question. I think the I

687
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 1: think the Pacers would really really struggle to score and

688
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 1: to guard Boston. One of the things with the Pacers

689
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Speaker 1: that we talked about earlier is they've got really good

690
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 1: perimeter defenders, but like they can only really keep two

691
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 1: of them on the floor at the same time, and

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00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 1: so as a result, they run into the same issue

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Speaker 1: that a lot of teams are gonna have with Boston,

694
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Speaker 1: where it's like, just give it to one of the

695
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Speaker 1: guys that Tyress Saliburton's garding, like they're just gonna like

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Speaker 1: one of the things with Duce McBride is you can

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Speaker 1: put Tyres on Duse McBride because Dus McBride is not

698
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 1: just gonna come down the floor and run, pick and

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Speaker 1: roll all game long.

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Speaker 2: But if they put him.

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Speaker 1: On Derek White or Drew Holliday, you bet you're asked

702
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 1: that Boston is just going to look to attack him

703
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 1: every single time they get a chance and get really

704
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 1: good looks out of it. The Knicks, for me, they

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Speaker 1: represent a couple like when they're healthy and oh, Gnob's

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00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 1: allegedly going to return, but when they're healthy, to me,

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Speaker 1: the Knicks kind of represents some of the Celtics weaknesses

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Speaker 1: in terms of like physicality and like the Knicks can

709
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 1: really grind games down into the mud and make teams

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00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 1: not shoot well from jump shot range, and so I

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00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 1: think they can play the Knicks or the Celtics into

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00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 1: some cold shooting stretches. And then obviously with Madison Square

713
00:32:56,480 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 1: Garden and that just the how borderline unbeatable then have

714
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 1: been there. I think that gives them a chance to

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Speaker 1: win some games at home. I'll pick the Boston Celtics

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Speaker 1: to win that series, probably in five or six games.

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Speaker 1: But I think the Knicks have more of a chance

718
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Speaker 1: to keep it competitive than Indiana does. Are the Spurs

719
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Speaker 1: the next dynasty with Wemby and thesel Here's the thing,

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Speaker 1: I think Victor wembin Yama is just a clear bona

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Speaker 1: fide top tier superstar, like he's probably gonna be that

722
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Speaker 1: by halfway through the year next year, and is certainly

723
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Speaker 1: going to be that within two to three years. So, like,

724
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Speaker 1: we're gonna do a lot of stuff with them Wenby

725
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Speaker 1: this summer.

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Speaker 2: I planed.

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Speaker 1: I didn't spend a lot of time on Wenby during

728
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Speaker 1: the regular season, just for obvious reasons, as I primarily

729
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Speaker 1: focus on the top ten to fifteen teams in the league.

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Speaker 1: And so we're gonna do a ton of Wemby film

731
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Speaker 1: study this summer and just kind of dive into what

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Speaker 1: he's good and bad at right now and where is

733
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Speaker 1: their areas of opportunity are. And I do think the

734
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Speaker 1: Spurs are gonna end up doing something in the trade

735
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 1: market this year to try to bring in some more

736
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Speaker 1: ball handling to make things easier for him.

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Speaker 2: So, like, I mean, here's the thing.

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Speaker 1: If Wenby stays healthy for ten years and is a

739
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Speaker 1: Spur for ten years, then they I've been dyningas a

740
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 1: lot just because there's so much talent in the league.

741
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Speaker 1: But I think the Spurs are going to be a

742
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Speaker 1: perennial contender at some point in the next five years.

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Speaker 1: How do you approach watching film when breaking down a

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00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,880
Speaker 1: player or team? What are the top things that you

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00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:19,440
Speaker 1: look for. So, for instance, if I if I'm looking

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00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,759
Speaker 1: at I look at it in two different ways. If

747
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 1: i'm and I'll start with the player. So like, for instance,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna scout draft prospects when we get out of

749
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 1: the NBA finals, Like, as soon as the NBA Finals

750
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 1: are over, we're gonna turn all of our attention to

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00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:34,799
Speaker 1: the draft, right, and so I need to try to

752
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,399
Speaker 1: scout a player in a short period of time, even

753
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 1: though there are draft guys that do it year round, right,

754
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 1: And so I look at a couple of different things

755
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,800
Speaker 1: I look at. I think it's very important to watch

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Speaker 1: full games, at least one or two of them. And

757
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Speaker 1: the main reason why is like a full game is

758
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Speaker 1: going to give you the best view of all of

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00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 1: the little things that a player does, Like does he

760
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:57,359
Speaker 1: eb and flow an effort? Does he ebb and flow

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00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:01,319
Speaker 1: in aggressiveness? How is this game management? Like identifying no

762
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:03,399
Speaker 1: matter how like what your points per possession in ball

763
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:05,920
Speaker 1: screens are, if you're not good at identifying when to

764
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:07,880
Speaker 1: be aggressive versus when to be a playmaker in the

765
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 1: flow of a basketball game, right, Like all these little

766
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Speaker 1: details leadership details, or do they get can players get

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00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 1: in their head and get him emotional. Like, there's all

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Speaker 1: these like different things you look at. Defense is a

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00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,359
Speaker 1: big one there. Watching full games, you get a much

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Speaker 1: better view of what it looks like for them and

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00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:26,320
Speaker 1: help and recover situations, what they're like on the defensive glass,

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00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 1: you know, all all that kind of stuff. Right, So

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00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 1: you got to watch a few full games just to

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Speaker 1: pick up the little details. Then from then from the

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Speaker 1: from like the individual play type data. It just depends

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Speaker 1: on what kind of role they're looking at. So like

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Speaker 1: if I'm looking in lottery at lottery stuff, and like

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Speaker 1: let's say I'm trying to figure out a Let's say

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Speaker 1: I'm scouting you know, Tray Jackson Davis.

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Speaker 2: Right Like, I'll literally go.

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00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:55,479
Speaker 1: To to Synergy and I'll just watch every single ball

782
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 1: screen that he's involved in, and I'll look at how

783
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:01,360
Speaker 1: well he screens, how good his hands are at catching

784
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:03,919
Speaker 1: in the pocket, how good is decision making is there?

785
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 1: And I was really high on Tray Jackson Davis out

786
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 1: of Indiana, if you guys remember, because one of the

787
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,320
Speaker 1: things I talked about with he played with Jalen and

788
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 1: Chafino there in like the when he would catch on

789
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 1: the role. Trace would catch on the role just completely

790
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 1: swarmed because he was one of the best players in

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00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 1: his conference, and so kind of similar to what Yokic

792
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:23,879
Speaker 1: deals with now, where teams are swarming him on the role.

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00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 1: It's just there's a lot of uh, there's a lot

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00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 1: of traffic that he's running into in terms of what

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00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 1: the game plan is is dictating, right, And so what

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00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 1: I was excited about for Trace Jackson Davis with the

797
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:36,800
Speaker 1: Warriors is like he's going to be rolling to the

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00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:40,760
Speaker 1: rim largely unimpeded compared to what it was like for Indiana.

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Speaker 1: And so for him, he's got so much practice already

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00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 1: making reads out of the role, I just thought he'd

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00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 1: be a good fit there, right. Similarly to like, like

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00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 1: when I scout a ball handler, like I'll look at

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00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 1: every single iso they run, every single pick and roll

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00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 1: they run, every single you know, like a back to

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00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 1: the basket player. We'll look at all their post ups,

806
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 1: so like I'll get play type data to dictate to

807
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:09,320
Speaker 1: learn more about their shot creation ability, and then obviously

808
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 1: I supplement that with actual data in terms of what

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00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:14,880
Speaker 1: their efficiency was in those situations. And then the last one,

810
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:16,720
Speaker 1: I'll look at a lot is like close out attacking,

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00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 1: So like spot up situations are too often, like to me,

812
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 1: oversimplified down into like what's the catch and shoot percentage?

813
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 1: And so much of it is like good defenses will

814
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 1: chase you off the line, So what do you do

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Speaker 1: when you get chased off the line? Are you capable

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00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,359
Speaker 1: of hitting a wonderable pull up? Are you capable of

817
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:39,399
Speaker 1: hitting a like ripping through to beat the close out

818
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 1: defender kind of slowing down waiting to see the play

819
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 1: develop and then like change your angle and get into

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00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 1: the middle of the floor for a float or driving

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00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 1: a kicking to the next guy in line. Like spot

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00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:52,360
Speaker 1: up situations to me need to be examined in a

823
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 1: more full sense than just catch and shoot jump shooting.

824
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:56,759
Speaker 1: But in terms of players, it really just comes down

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00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 1: to a combination of full game and play types. Teams

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00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 1: I exact same kind of thing, But one of the

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00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:05,239
Speaker 1: things with teams that I primarily focus on is like

828
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 1: looking at a different phases of the game. So like

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00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 1: bench units, I'll look at a lot of like for

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00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 1: the beginning of the second quarter, beginning of the fourth

831
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:14,479
Speaker 1: quarter type of stuff. But when it comes to starting units,

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00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 1: I feel like you actually learn the most about them

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00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 1: in crunch time situations.

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00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:18,800
Speaker 2: That's when.

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Speaker 1: That's when you actually see them against the defense that's

836
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 1: fully engaged, that has scouted all your plays through the

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Speaker 1: game to that point and is probably.

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00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 2: Going with whatever they're going to try to do to

839
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Speaker 2: win the game.

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00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:31,759
Speaker 1: And so you can learn a lot about a team

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00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 1: watching a watching crunch time, But again, film for a

842
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 1: team is more of a big picture type of thing,

843
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:41,800
Speaker 1: like I need to watch a team thirty forty times

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00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 1: during the season for an entire game to really get

845
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 1: a good feel for them before we get to the postseason.

846
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 1: Who is higher in current player rankings Booker or Kyrie?

847
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 1: So you know, Devin Booker had a postseason that left

848
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 1: a lot to be desired obviously, although he had a

849
00:38:56,960 --> 00:39:01,240
Speaker 1: big game four, But I still think that at Devin Booker,

850
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 1: with his height and his shot making ability, brings a

851
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 1: little bit more to the table than Kyrie. Kyrie's one

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00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 1: of those guys too, where like if you put him

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00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 1: in a situation where the rest of the team can

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00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 1: do everything else and he just needs to focus on scoring,

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00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 1: you could argue he's the best at that, you know

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00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 1: what I mean. But Devin Booker, I think as a

857
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:25,279
Speaker 1: higher level playmaker and ball screens. I think the thing

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00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 1: with Devin Booker that's been an issue is his hamstring injuries.

859
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 1: Like he just continually deals with these soft tissue injuries

860
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 1: that seem to effective his explosiveness, and then he's not

861
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:36,839
Speaker 1: as good getting to his spots and getting a lyft right. So, like,

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00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 1: obviously it's tough, but I'd probably lean. I think Devin

863
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 1: Booker has the edge there for sure. Had the Warriors

864
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 1: gotten the first pick and the twenty twenty NBA Draft

865
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:49,360
Speaker 1: and take an Ant, would the dynasty have extended or

866
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 1: of Ant's development slow they of course it would have extended.

867
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 1: Don't overthink Ant. He's twenty two years old. He's already

868
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 1: better than most of the players in the league. Like

869
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 1: he's just awesome. But at the same time, like he

870
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 1: wasn't available. That's just the reality, right, Like, Like even

871
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:06,320
Speaker 1: as it pertains to the Wiseman pick, like that draft

872
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 1: in particular, everybody was a high risk pick. And I

873
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:11,799
Speaker 1: think there's a lot of like there's a lot of

874
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 1: like what do you call it, Like, there's a lot

875
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:17,919
Speaker 1: of revisionist history in the sense that like so many

876
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,879
Speaker 1: people want to pretend that you know, one of these

877
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 1: some of the some of these things were obvious and

878
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 1: it's just not the case. Like Golden State kind of

879
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 1: needed a big Now, should they have taken a LaMelo Ball, maybe,

880
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 1: but like LaMelo balls had injury issues, right, So, like

881
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 1: so much of it is just like it was a

882
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:37,839
Speaker 1: weak draft. Everybody was risky, even Anthony Edwards, even though

883
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 1: he was the clear number one. Anthony Edwards came with

884
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:43,799
Speaker 1: a lot of question marks coming out of Georgia, right,

885
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 1: And so now all those question marks have been answered resoundingly,

886
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 1: And I think, you know, I think Anthony Edwards a

887
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 1: series actually reminds me a lot of Lebron in two

888
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 1: thousand and eight against the Celtics, where it's like he's

889
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 1: clearly playing the best team in the league, and like

890
00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 1: it's like he has this like superpower that has kept

891
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 1: them in this series.

892
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 2: But like Denver's just better.

893
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:06,800
Speaker 1: Now, Aunt has an opportunity on Sunday to etch his

894
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 1: name in history. If Ant goes in on games for

895
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 1: Game seven and he goes for thirty five plus and

896
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 1: he shakes the foundation of that Denver team and they

897
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,919
Speaker 1: win and they advance to the next round. You're talking

898
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:23,320
Speaker 1: about going without home court advantage as a substantial underdog

899
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 1: to be the best player in the world on his

900
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 1: home floor, that would be one hell of an early

901
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 1: feather in the cat for Anthony Edwards, especially since that

902
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 1: puts them into a conference final series where I think

903
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:37,840
Speaker 1: they'd probably be the favorite against whoever comes out of Dallas,

904
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 1: Oklahoma City. So huge opportunity for Aunt on Sunday. I

905
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:43,880
Speaker 1: don't think they're gonna win, but that's the type of

906
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 1: opportunity that lays in front of him. Do you watch anime? So,

907
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 1: what was the show with the superheroes.

908
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 2: That was anime? Paul?

909
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:55,919
Speaker 1: If you could think of it, let me know. It's

910
00:41:56,480 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 1: the one where the kid has the dad, not my

911
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:04,799
Speaker 1: hero Academia. What was the It's the one where like

912
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 1: the kid's dad has the has the mustache and he's

913
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 1: like Superman and like and there's a moment in the

914
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:12,319
Speaker 1: first season where he beats the shit out of him.

915
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 1: I can't remember exactly what that show was called, but

916
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 1: like I watched, I watched the Uh that doesn't count

917
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 1: as anime or it's just animation. I guess Invincible. That's

918
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 1: what it's called invincible. Okay, So anime is like Okay,

919
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 1: I see what you're saying. So I watched you know

920
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:29,360
Speaker 1: when I was a kid, you know, like I watched

921
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 1: Yu gi Oh when I was a kid, right, or

922
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 1: Pokemon when I was young. But like, I haven't been

923
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:37,439
Speaker 1: into anime very much. I did really enjoy the Star

924
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 1: Wars Visions shows where they went to a bunch of

925
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:44,319
Speaker 1: anime studios and had them make a bunch of Star

926
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 1: Wars stories. I really really enjoyed those. There's a a

927
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 1: part of Star Wars that I've always enjoyed just in

928
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 1: terms of like I've always been fascinated by the Sith

929
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 1: and like they're kind of like overly dark aura and

930
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 1: like that mixes with anime extremely well. And there was

931
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 1: a lot of really really cool stuff from Star Wars

932
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 1: Visions with that. See, I'm gonna be in trouble now

933
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 1: because I just called Invincible anime and that doesn't count,

934
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 1: all right, any more.

935
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:09,919
Speaker 2: Questions before we get out of here.

936
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 1: Also, I know I've I've mentioned this a couple times

937
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 1: in the last week, but like I I have a

938
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:20,880
Speaker 1: podcast that I have on the side, two sons podcasts,

939
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:22,319
Speaker 1: this one that I do with my buddy Luke, and

940
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:25,359
Speaker 1: we cover basically TV shows and TV series and major

941
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 1: movie releases and stuff like Loved Fallout. We covered Fallout,

942
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 1: loved Showgun. We call it a covered Showgun. We just

943
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 1: did kind of a preview of The Acolyte Acolytes less

944
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 1: than a month away. We're gonna hitting the Acolyte every

945
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 1: single episode. We're gonna be hitting a house of the

946
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:42,880
Speaker 1: Dragon every single episode. I saw the trailer today for

947
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:45,319
Speaker 1: Rings of Power. Super excited for that. We're gonna have

948
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 1: uh episode of breakdowns for all of those, so you

949
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 1: can find that where. I have my other podcast at

950
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:54,799
Speaker 1: two sons. Let's see and someone to give it a

951
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:56,360
Speaker 1: description of anime for me.

952
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 2: Thank you.

953
00:43:56,760 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 1: I apologize. I didn't mean to disrespect the format. I

954
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:03,879
Speaker 1: have a brother in law as a big anime guy,

955
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 1: and he's always trying to get me to get into it,

956
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 1: but I just haven't been. I love that you went

957
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 1: to Star Wars. I just I one in doubt. I'm

958
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:12,319
Speaker 1: always gonna go to Star Wars. That's just how it goes.

959
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 1: How close is Indiana to being a true contender. I

960
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 1: think part of it is like Tyres Aliburton just needs

961
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 1: to get a little bit better as a score, right,

962
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:22,319
Speaker 1: Like I think they need to get. They need to

963
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 1: get kind of like that nim hard Nee Smith piece, Like,

964
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 1: I think one of those guys can be the fifth

965
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:29,279
Speaker 1: best player on your lineup, but I think you got

966
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 1: to upgrade one of those guys, and then if Tyree's

967
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:35,759
Speaker 1: can become a more reliable scorer in the postseason, I

968
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:37,880
Speaker 1: think that's enough for them to really enter into contention.

969
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 2: I'm a huge believer in Halliburton.

970
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 1: I think, like, I think he's got a very unique

971
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 1: shot creation ability that goes under the radar. So much

972
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:48,879
Speaker 1: focus on his scoring in this series, and like, I'm

973
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 1: not trying to underplay that the scoring matters, but like,

974
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 1: let's just be honest about the situation and acknowledge that,

975
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 1: Like Halliburton's best skill is getting the defense in rotation,

976
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:01,240
Speaker 1: and he's done a lot of that in this series,

977
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 1: and he's just generating easier offense for his teammates. Should

978
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:08,359
Speaker 1: the next trade Randal, I think they should. I think

979
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 1: they should trade Randal and try to get a star

980
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 1: forward to put next to Og if they can. That's

981
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:16,880
Speaker 1: on Bronni. I thought that a lot of people like,

982
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:18,799
Speaker 1: here's the thing. One of the things that sucks for

983
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:22,719
Speaker 1: Bronni is Lebron is just a super polarizing player, right,

984
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 1: And I want to be clear, like I feel like

985
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 1: the majority of people who are basketball fans are pretty

986
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 1: reasonable about this, Like they either like in respect Lebron

987
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:39,239
Speaker 1: or don't like but respect Lebron. But then there's like

988
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 1: ten percent on the front end that's like so like

989
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 1: problematically obsessed with Lebron that it poisons the discourse. And

990
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:50,239
Speaker 1: then there's like ten percent on the bottom and that's

991
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 1: like so like like hates him in such a toxic

992
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:57,279
Speaker 1: way that it poisons the discourse, right, And so like

993
00:45:57,600 --> 00:45:59,800
Speaker 1: I think like that turns it into this like shouting

994
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:02,239
Speaker 1: now about the Bronny stuff. And like one of the

995
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 1: things for Bronnie is like he literally had heart surgery

996
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:06,279
Speaker 1: less than a year ago. I want to see, it

997
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 1: was like nine months ago. So like everyone's like, oh,

998
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 1: his numbers at USC weren't very good. It's like, dude,

999
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 1: he almost died, Like come on, like what are we

1000
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 1: doing here? Like this this is not that's not fair

1001
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:20,920
Speaker 1: to Bronnie or to anybody involved, right, Like to me,

1002
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 1: it's this simple. He's got excellent physical tools, So the

1003
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:29,240
Speaker 1: at two ten for a guard, that's like really stocky

1004
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:32,720
Speaker 1: and strong, and then in addition to that an outstanding athlete,

1005
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 1: super quick first step, great vertical athlete, long arms. He's

1006
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:38,359
Speaker 1: got like a six seven six eight wing span, which

1007
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:40,880
Speaker 1: for a guard is outstanding. And so to me, I

1008
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:45,279
Speaker 1: keep thinking he's like Jalen Suggs. He's a guy that

1009
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 1: I think could be a primary point of attack defender

1010
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 1: that can be a guard who says guard guard screens

1011
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:52,800
Speaker 1: and pops a three point line and can attack close

1012
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 1: outs and things along those lines and be a transition weapon.

1013
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:57,839
Speaker 1: That's what I look at Bronnie as and I mean,

1014
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 1: here's the thing, Like, does does the fact that he

1015
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:04,399
Speaker 1: didn't put up great numbers at USC matter? No? But

1016
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:06,800
Speaker 1: does that mean that he's just like an automatic shoe

1017
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 1: into be an NBA player? No, It's just my thing

1018
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:12,360
Speaker 1: is he deserves his chance. I think he's got the

1019
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 1: tools to get to He's got the tools to potentially

1020
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 1: be a good NBA player. And as far as like

1021
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 1: the whole like nepotism angle, here's my thing, Like, like,

1022
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 1: would Brownie have gotten an invite to the combine if

1023
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 1: he wasn't Lebron James's kid?

1024
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:32,799
Speaker 2: Maybe not, but I mean probably not. But here's the thing.

1025
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:35,880
Speaker 1: He is Lebron James's kid, and he did get an invite,

1026
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 1: and so he is gonna get a chance. Are we

1027
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 1: gonna sit here and be stupid and pretend like there

1028
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:42,839
Speaker 1: aren't people that get opportunities because of connections. That's just

1029
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:45,759
Speaker 1: how life works. And so if Bronni is able to

1030
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:48,400
Speaker 1: take advantage of that and parlay it into an NBA career,

1031
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 1: more power to him. You know, you got to get

1032
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:54,240
Speaker 1: lucky in life, and like no one ever achieved anything

1033
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:55,839
Speaker 1: without some luck, you know what I mean. And so

1034
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's straight hater behavior to

1035
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 1: focus on what has benefited Bronnie when the reality is

1036
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:06,359
Speaker 1: is like if he goes to the NBA and he's

1037
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 1: not good, he won't he won't stay in the NBA.

1038
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:13,440
Speaker 1: So like he's going to get his opportunity because of Lebron,

1039
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 1: but it's still on him to capitalize on it. No

1040
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 1: coach is going to be giving Ronnie real NBA minutes

1041
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:23,400
Speaker 1: on a good team if he can't play. So so

1042
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 1: just get over it. Let the kid have his opportunity,

1043
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:30,799
Speaker 1: Let's see what he makes of it. Let's see last

1044
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:34,760
Speaker 1: question better at twenty three Kobe or Anthony Edwards, that's tough.

1045
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:38,880
Speaker 1: I here's the thing. Kobe at this age had already

1046
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:43,359
Speaker 1: had a lot of deep playoff experience, so I think

1047
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:44,879
Speaker 1: he was a little bit more reliable at this point.

1048
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:48,320
Speaker 1: And Kobe had like actually made plays in the NBA Finals,

1049
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 1: So I think it's foolish to give anthe edge right away.

1050
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:54,239
Speaker 1: That said, like Kobe's role in his early twenties was

1051
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 1: fundamentally different as the second best player on his team.

1052
00:48:57,640 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 1: If Aunt were to win the title this year, like

1053
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 1: let's say Aunt goes in game seven tomorrow or on

1054
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:08,239
Speaker 1: Sunday and drops thirty eight, soundly out plays Jokics and

1055
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:10,799
Speaker 1: wins the game, and then he goes into the next

1056
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:14,760
Speaker 1: round and soundly out plays Luca and wins the Western

1057
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:17,840
Speaker 1: Conference finals, and then goes into the finals and soundly

1058
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 1: out plays Jason Tatum and they hoist the trophy. He

1059
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 1: at age twenty two would have the best case for

1060
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 1: best player in the world be the reigning Finals MVP,

1061
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:32,839
Speaker 1: and we'll have done it about a half decade earlier then.

1062
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 1: The majority of the people that he's getting lumped in

1063
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:38,400
Speaker 1: with in terms of his potential, right, like, Kobe was

1064
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:41,319
Speaker 1: the second best player on those Lakers teams. He was

1065
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 1: vitally important, but he was the second best player on

1066
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 1: those on those championship teams, right, And so like, I

1067
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 1: think Ant has an opportunity. Again, I expect the Nuggets

1068
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:52,920
Speaker 1: to win on Sunday, but I think Ant has an

1069
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:55,799
Speaker 1: opportunity to do something truly special on Sunday. And that's

1070
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 1: why we're going to be all in front of our

1071
00:49:57,239 --> 00:49:59,719
Speaker 1: TVs to watch it, which is gonna be exciting. All right, guys,

1072
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:02,440
Speaker 1: we're gonna head out of here. I really really appreciate

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Speaker 1: you guys for supporting the show. I don't say that enough.

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Speaker 1: It's been really cool to see the channel grow over

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Speaker 1: the course of the last nine months. We built this

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Speaker 1: thing from scratch back in October, the new YouTube channel,

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Speaker 1: and I think we're already up at like sixty six

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Speaker 1: thousand subscribers, And obviously the support has been insane, and

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Speaker 1: it's open doors for me that I never thought i'd

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Speaker 1: get access to. Like I'm getting to go watch Team

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Speaker 1: USA in their scrimmage in Vegas the week before Summer League,

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Speaker 1: and then I'm going to Summer League, and like, there's

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Speaker 1: all these opportunities and things that I've been able to experience,

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Speaker 1: and I have you guys to think for that. So

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Speaker 1: I just hope you guys understand how much I appreciate you,

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Speaker 1: and I know that I wouldn't have any of these

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Speaker 1: opportunities if it wasn't for you guys, and I just

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Speaker 1: appreciate you guys for supporting the show. All Right, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna get out of here for the night. We're not

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Speaker 1: gonna do anything in the morning. Again, I don't really

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Speaker 1: think anything's worth a film study at this point, So

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Speaker 1: we're going to run this mail bag as a breakout

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Speaker 1: in the morning, and then we'll be back at the

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Speaker 1: final buzzer of thunder MAVs Game six tomorrow night live

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Speaker 1: on YouTube.

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Speaker 2: I will see you guys.

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Speaker 1: Then the volume