WEBVTT - White Sox Sweep Detroit

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<v Speaker 2>your hosts Jim Margolis and Josh Nelson.

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<v Speaker 3>Hello, folks, welcome to a new episode of The Sox

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<v Speaker 3>Machine podcast, part of the Foul Territory Now Work. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>your host Josh Nelson, and in this episode, man, what

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<v Speaker 3>a great weekend for the Chicago White Sox and I

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<v Speaker 3>can just tell on social media and as well in

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<v Speaker 3>the Sox Machine comments that everybody is bumped up with

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<v Speaker 3>the Chicago White Sox sweeping the Detroit Tigers, an outcome

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<v Speaker 3>that is very welcomed. I don't think anyone was really expecting.

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<v Speaker 3>So to help me recap what happened this weekend, and

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<v Speaker 3>also look ahead, because I think this knuck up on everybody.

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<v Speaker 3>It's White Sox Cubs this week. Did you know that

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<v Speaker 3>I had to remind myself that this is happening, not

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<v Speaker 3>as much anticipation of the series that we saw in May,

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<v Speaker 3>but however, both teams are playing great baseball, so it

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<v Speaker 3>should still be a very exciting series in Chicago.

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<v Speaker 4>Enjoining me at Sox Machines, Managing.

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<v Speaker 3>Editor Jim Margulus and Jim Man, What a weekend for

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<v Speaker 3>the Chicago White Sox sweeping the Detroit Tigers. And I

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<v Speaker 3>know that it seems like with every passing week we

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<v Speaker 3>still have this hint of disbelief in our voices that

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<v Speaker 3>this season is actually unfolding the way it has for

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<v Speaker 3>the White Sox, and after stumbling against the Reds, and

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<v Speaker 3>I don't blame anyone looking at these six games against

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<v Speaker 3>its Tigers on the road and going to Wrigley Field

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<v Speaker 3>to play against the Cubs if you are concerned that

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<v Speaker 3>maybe the White Sox would trip and be closer to

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<v Speaker 3>five hundred and the division lead would be in trouble.

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<v Speaker 4>Instead, now listen to us.

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<v Speaker 3>The White Sox, Jim, are five and a half games

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<v Speaker 3>ahead of everybody in the American League Central. So with

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<v Speaker 3>this series tweep, is the postseason dream becoming more real

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<v Speaker 3>in your opinion?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, it should be. I invoked the magic number in

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<v Speaker 5>the recap for the first time after Sunday's game. I'm

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<v Speaker 5>not at the points where I think the magic numbers

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<v Speaker 5>should be a daily pursuit, but over the course the weekend,

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<v Speaker 5>winning three games against the direct challenger second place team

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<v Speaker 5>to remove six games from a magic number in one

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<v Speaker 5>weekend in now the second half of August, that is

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<v Speaker 5>worth noting. So now that the magic number is down

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<v Speaker 5>to thirty four, that's still a long ways away. I

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<v Speaker 5>remember from twenty twelve that stands out of the season

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<v Speaker 5>where the magic number come September didn't really go down

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<v Speaker 5>much and just hung on one number for far too long.

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<v Speaker 5>And so that's why I'm not going to make this

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<v Speaker 5>a daily feature of recaps. But I think just when

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<v Speaker 5>you have that kind of performance, the kind of statement

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<v Speaker 5>against the second place team, the team that was the

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<v Speaker 5>hottest team in the American League, especially in terms of

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<v Speaker 5>run differential, and you knock that down so dramatically, it's

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<v Speaker 5>worth noting.

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<v Speaker 3>And when you take a look at de Voss and

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<v Speaker 3>odds for the White Sox, and we grab these from Fangraphs.

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<v Speaker 4>So for those that are listening to the.

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<v Speaker 3>Odds version of this podcast, I'll talk through it. But

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<v Speaker 3>for those that are watching on YouTube for Fangraphs, the

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<v Speaker 3>White Sox chances of now making the postseason are at

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<v Speaker 3>seventy three percent. Before opening day GYM it was one percent.

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<v Speaker 3>So to look at this graph, and now Cleveland has

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<v Speaker 3>the second best odds. They're at twenty six percent, and

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<v Speaker 3>that's mostly because supposedly they have the easiest schedule remaining

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<v Speaker 3>in Major League Baseball. The Twins are at twenty percent,

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<v Speaker 3>the Tigers now dropped to nineteen percent. The Royals are

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<v Speaker 3>at zero percent. The Royals actually had the second best

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<v Speaker 3>odds of making the postseason on opening Day in the

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<v Speaker 3>American League Central. So it's great looking at this graph

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<v Speaker 3>and looking at the great line and just like almost

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<v Speaker 3>skyrocket because of what happened in this weekend. Gym at

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<v Speaker 3>seventy three percent to make the playoffs. But when you

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<v Speaker 3>look at the American League Central odds of winning the division,

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<v Speaker 3>the White Sox are at sixty four percent. And this

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<v Speaker 3>is why for me, it's becoming more real and as

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<v Speaker 3>a season ticket holder podcast listeners, we have not received

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<v Speaker 3>our playoff invoices yet when they come though, it's been

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<v Speaker 3>a minute since that's happened.

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<v Speaker 4>We laughed at.

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<v Speaker 3>It in twenty twenty two, Jim when they came in

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<v Speaker 3>because it was just absurd that the White Sox we're

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<v Speaker 3>offering it at that time.

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<v Speaker 4>But now we have to take it seriously. And the White.

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<v Speaker 3>Sox also added some of their lead against the Houston

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<v Speaker 3>Astros and they're looking at that two seed in the

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<v Speaker 3>American League, which means that.

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<v Speaker 4>If you look ahead, if you're making.

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<v Speaker 3>Plans everyone, all whites, everyone, it follows to White Sox

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<v Speaker 3>fans media, like, we may have plans, Jym on October third,

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<v Speaker 3>and that might be Game one of the American League

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<v Speaker 3>Division Series. And for all White Sox fans that were

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<v Speaker 3>booking vacations in October, maybe you wouldn't change your plans

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<v Speaker 3>because you may suddenly have plans with how the White

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<v Speaker 3>Sox have been playing. But I don't know about you, Jim,

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<v Speaker 3>but looking at those graphs and looking at those percentages,

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<v Speaker 3>that's where at one part, Gym, it becomes more real

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<v Speaker 3>for me. But at the same time, I just kind

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<v Speaker 3>of chuckle and be like, this is just how far.

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<v Speaker 4>We've come in this season from opening day to now.

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<v Speaker 5>It's funny when you look at the projections before the

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<v Speaker 5>season and you see the White Sox have a one

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<v Speaker 5>percent chance of making the postseason, or I think Pakota

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<v Speaker 5>might have had two point something percent, And you look

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<v Speaker 5>at Pakota has this graph that shows you all of

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<v Speaker 5>the outcomes from the thousand simulations they run and just

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<v Speaker 5>the spread of winds that are possible, and you see

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<v Speaker 5>like the very front edge of that wind curve being

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<v Speaker 5>you know, high eighties or something like that, and you

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<v Speaker 5>think that, okay, that's like the one out of a thousand,

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<v Speaker 5>or you know that sliver represents like sixty out of

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<v Speaker 5>one thousand that were run, and you think of everything

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<v Speaker 5>that has to go into the White Sox having that,

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<v Speaker 5>and it requires like a lot of you know, over performances.

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<v Speaker 5>Will say, ye, just based on what the projections were,

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<v Speaker 5>Like Miguel Vargas, like the ninety ninth percentile projection has

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<v Speaker 5>nothing on what he's doing right now. Tristan Peters, I'm

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<v Speaker 5>sure he's similar. And then you see like all the

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<v Speaker 5>failure elsewhere, like you see the Mariners especially I think

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<v Speaker 5>they're probably one of the team's most I guess, creating

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<v Speaker 5>the most wins available for other teams to snatch, and

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<v Speaker 5>you have the the rest of the hill West is

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<v Speaker 5>the kind of a disappointment. The Blue Jays have been

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<v Speaker 5>a disappointment, the Orioles have been a big bummer, and

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<v Speaker 5>all of those teams creating wind vacancies for some team

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<v Speaker 5>to come in, and the White Sox have done that

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<v Speaker 5>with the way they've played. And so it's funny when

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<v Speaker 5>you look back at that now and you look at

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<v Speaker 5>the standings, and you know, one hand, the reaction is,

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<v Speaker 5>what are these you know, algorithms, know these projection systems.

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<v Speaker 3>Know.

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<v Speaker 5>On the other hand, it's like, well, they did account

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<v Speaker 5>for this in a sliver of all the simulations they ran,

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<v Speaker 5>and I guess this is what it would look like.

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<v Speaker 5>It looked like the you know, the Royals, another team

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<v Speaker 5>crapping the bed. Yeah, and you know, maybe they weren't

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<v Speaker 5>going to be a favorite like the Mariners were, but

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<v Speaker 5>they certainly are leaving you know, twenty wins at a

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<v Speaker 5>table or something like that, you know, based on the

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<v Speaker 5>the pace that they're currently on, or at least I

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<v Speaker 5>would say like, yeah, maybe fifteen wins, but yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 5>there are so many wins for the taking that, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>this is what it looks like when the entire American

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<v Speaker 5>League is down and the White Sox are talented enough,

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<v Speaker 5>explosive enough to have these outbursts that allow them to

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<v Speaker 5>overcome what deficiencies they have.

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<v Speaker 3>So looking at this series again, the White Sox sweeping

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<v Speaker 3>the Tigers. They won Game one nine to five. Game

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<v Speaker 3>two they won four to three. Game three they won

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<v Speaker 3>seven to five in the first game, and the third

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<v Speaker 3>game they were down by three against the Tigers. The

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<v Speaker 3>Tigers seen to be well in a great position to

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<v Speaker 3>win those games against the White Sox. But it is

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<v Speaker 3>this power in the lineup that we have just been

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<v Speaker 3>seeking for this White Sox team gym.

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<v Speaker 4>And in the.

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<v Speaker 3>Second game, I give them a lot of credit. It

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<v Speaker 3>was a key double by Colson Montgomery, a two run

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<v Speaker 3>double to get them to three runs, and that Andrew

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<v Speaker 3>ben Attendee being the VET, was able to pull through

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<v Speaker 3>to have the game winning hit for the White Sox.

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<v Speaker 3>So they didn't hit any home runs in the second game,

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<v Speaker 3>but in the first game they hit four. Miguel Vargas

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<v Speaker 3>had two in that game and Murricami had a home

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<v Speaker 3>run in that game, and then in Game three, again

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<v Speaker 3>it's Vargas and Murakami and bless your heart, Drew.

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<v Speaker 4>Romo with that big two run homer to.

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<v Speaker 3>Cut it from a four to one deficit to four

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<v Speaker 3>to three and spark some hope that this White Sox

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<v Speaker 3>team can once again come back. That's the most impressive

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<v Speaker 3>thing that I took away from this series win for

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<v Speaker 3>the White Sox is that even though the pitching wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>all that great, they didn't stay in the pin. To

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<v Speaker 3>use your analogy that you've been using many times this season,

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<v Speaker 3>the White Sox ability to kick, and it's really the

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<v Speaker 3>home run power that powered as far as this series

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<v Speaker 3>win in my opinion, Jim.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean that makes such a huge difference when

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<v Speaker 5>you can't get that instant offense. And I think you

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<v Speaker 5>can supplement that by saying the outfielders, uh, the you know,

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<v Speaker 5>the non fixtures in the lineup, the Tristan Peters reaching

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<v Speaker 5>base seven times in three games. You had Randall Gritchik

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<v Speaker 5>basically being an automatic double when he came to the plates. Uh,

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<v Speaker 5>those of them. Yeah, those kind of supplemental performances I

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<v Speaker 5>think go a long way to maximize the power when

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<v Speaker 5>it arrives. And then you have Drew Romo coming up

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<v Speaker 5>with a big hit in the ninth spot. Uh, chase

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<v Speaker 5>Mydrath when he's down seventh or lower and hitting like

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<v Speaker 5>he's hitting. He's useful. So yeah, it's a common I

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<v Speaker 5>think of just the instant offense and the ability to

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<v Speaker 5>all of a sudden turn the tides really quick, and

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<v Speaker 5>then just the steadiness of the one through nine to

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<v Speaker 5>where any part of this lineup can start something. And

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<v Speaker 5>you know, we saw it on Sunday with just the

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<v Speaker 5>way they scored runs, the variety of ways they did it,

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<v Speaker 5>like Tristan Peters doubling and scoring in a couple of

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<v Speaker 5>productive groundouts like they needed that run after falling behind

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<v Speaker 5>free nothing. They got it done. I'm thinking back to

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<v Speaker 5>Sam Antonachi hustling out a double when it looked like

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<v Speaker 5>just a routine single off the middle, and he kind

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<v Speaker 5>of caught Javier Bayaz napping a little bit in center

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<v Speaker 5>and those ninety feet mattered scoring run. He had Munataka

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<v Speaker 5>Murakami getting caught in a rundown on a contact play

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<v Speaker 5>but then extending the rundown long enough for the runners

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<v Speaker 5>to back fill second and third. So you saw the power,

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<v Speaker 5>but you also saw the White Sox, you know. And

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<v Speaker 5>I shouldn't say they didn't leave runs on the table

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<v Speaker 5>because they had went four for eighteen with the rundres

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<v Speaker 5>in scoring position one game. They went one for ten

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<v Speaker 5>on Sunday. So still not the perfect performance with runners

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<v Speaker 5>in scoring position. I think most teams are saying that

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<v Speaker 5>about themselves in twenty twenty six. But they create opportunities

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<v Speaker 5>a lot of ways to where they don't have to

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<v Speaker 5>come up with the big hits in a given inning

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<v Speaker 5>to turn the tides, or they don't have to have

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<v Speaker 5>homers from Murakami and Vargas and Montgomery to make it work,

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<v Speaker 5>like they can scrape by in other ways and by

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<v Speaker 5>time for either the hitters show up or like the yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>it's it's a team really working well together when you

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<v Speaker 5>have that going on, and then a pretty flexible bullpen

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<v Speaker 5>with a lot of ways to cover for needing a

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<v Speaker 5>bullpen game or Jose Orkhaty to cover three and a

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<v Speaker 5>third or having a Sean Burke at less than full power,

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<v Speaker 5>like they didn't have everything in their favor and yet

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<v Speaker 5>they kept finding ways one way, you know, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>on one side of the ball or the other to

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<v Speaker 5>just make up the gap.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll talk more about the White Sox pitchers in a moment,

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<v Speaker 3>because I do think that is a key topic, especially

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<v Speaker 3>as the White Sox continue this path where they play

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<v Speaker 3>sixteen games in sixteen days. But speaking of the home

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<v Speaker 3>run power, looking at the White Sox home run leaders,

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<v Speaker 3>Miguel Vargas and Munataka Murakami are now tied. They both

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<v Speaker 3>have twenty eight home runs. Colston Montgomery is third on

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<v Speaker 3>the team what twenty six home runs, so Jim. Unlike

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<v Speaker 3>previous seasons, we have a spicy home run race for

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<v Speaker 3>the White Sox. We don't have to debate who's actually

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<v Speaker 3>going to reach twenty home runs for the White Sox.

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<v Speaker 3>So this is a dice change of pace for the

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<v Speaker 3>Chicago White Sox.

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<v Speaker 4>But I do ask you who is going to.

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<v Speaker 3>Win the White Sox home run race between Murakami, Vargus

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<v Speaker 3>and Montgomery.

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<v Speaker 5>I think it's gonna be Murakammie. That feels a little

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<v Speaker 5>bit chalky to me to say, and it all spicy,

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<v Speaker 5>but it's just so effortless when he hits him, he

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<v Speaker 5>hits a lot that looked like they're mishits and they

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<v Speaker 5>still carry carry carey over the wall. So when he

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<v Speaker 5>has that kind of margin for error with regards to

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<v Speaker 5>the quality of his contact still generating over the fence power,

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<v Speaker 5>I think that just gives him a huge leg up,

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<v Speaker 5>and I think, you know, Vargas is somebody who can

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<v Speaker 5>do it. I'm thinking back to last year when like

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<v Speaker 5>Lenine Sosa won the home run title with twenty two

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<v Speaker 5>and it was just very uninspiring, not much of a chase,

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<v Speaker 5>you would say. But yeah, when it comes to Vargas

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<v Speaker 5>being somebody who like he would have won the home

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<v Speaker 5>run title going away last year, he certainly has the

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<v Speaker 5>ability to get on heaters and really rip the ball.

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<v Speaker 5>But I think he's still somebody who's he needs his

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<v Speaker 5>best contact to get over the fence. He's just making

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<v Speaker 5>his best contact more often and that helps him a lot.

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<v Speaker 5>But I think just Murakami, his ability to mishit the

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<v Speaker 5>ball or just the way his uh swing is angled

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<v Speaker 5>is such that creates so much backspin that more fly

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<v Speaker 5>balls of his get over the fence than I think

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<v Speaker 5>most hitters in general, the most power hitters, especially.

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<v Speaker 3>Especially his ability now to go opposite field like, I

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<v Speaker 3>think that's the difference between Murkammi Vargas and Colson Montgomery.

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<v Speaker 3>Montgomery and Vargas they need to pull the ball. But

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<v Speaker 3>as we have seen recently from Murrikkammy, he's starting to

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<v Speaker 3>demonstrate Jim that opposite field power of being able to

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<v Speaker 3>go to left field with his home runs.

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<v Speaker 4>So I'll give you mrk Kami. I'm gonna take Vargas.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like Vargas, he loves hitting at Wrigley Field.

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<v Speaker 3>He had a huge series last year in Wrigley Field.

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<v Speaker 3>To me, it's just so heartwarming because we could see

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<v Speaker 3>three thirty plus.

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<v Speaker 4>Home run hitters in this lineup.

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<v Speaker 3>Jym like, I feel like Colson Montgomery's gotta get to thirty.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like Vargas and Murkami are both going to

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<v Speaker 3>get to thirty five homers. Murk Comedy to get to

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<v Speaker 3>thirty five homers after missing quite a bit of time

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<v Speaker 3>with this hamstring issue. Very impressive. But man, we've been

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<v Speaker 3>I've been asking for this. I think a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>White Sox fans have been asking for this because despite

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<v Speaker 3>what Ozzie Geehan says, his best teams were the ones

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<v Speaker 3>that put the ball in the seats. They hit more

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<v Speaker 3>than two hundred home runs and I feel like the

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<v Speaker 3>White Sox finally have that right mixer, because I mean

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<v Speaker 3>Andrew ben Attendee has twelve, Chase mydraft has twelve, and

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<v Speaker 3>they're starting to get some more home runs, especially from

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<v Speaker 3>the role players like Drew Romo and Tristan Peters.

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like the White Sox are.

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<v Speaker 3>Going to get to that two hundred home run milestone

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<v Speaker 3>this season, and it's a big reason why they have

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<v Speaker 3>a comfortable lead now in the American League Central. But

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<v Speaker 3>let us know in the comments section who your I

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<v Speaker 3>guess picked the click is and who's going to win

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<v Speaker 3>the White Sox home run race between Miguel Vargas, Mtitakamurakami

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome back to the Sox Machine podcast. Now we kind

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<v Speaker 3>of shift gears. We talked about the White Sox offense

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<v Speaker 3>really helping out in their series we be against Detroit.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's talk about this state of the White Sox pitching staff.

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<v Speaker 3>Because Davis Martin is on the injured list because of

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<v Speaker 3>his blister. He's going to be out a few more

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<v Speaker 3>weeks earliest that he'll be returning as at the end

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<v Speaker 3>of August for that series up in Minneapolis against the

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<v Speaker 3>Minnesota Twins, and Jose Orchati might be an option to

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<v Speaker 3>start some games. It's really sounded ify Jim from Will

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<v Speaker 3>Venable after Sunday's win on what's going to happen with

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<v Speaker 3>the White Sox pitching staff. So this is what I

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<v Speaker 3>have on paper. What their starting rotation is at the

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<v Speaker 3>moment Anthony Ka because he starts before Seawan Berke, even

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<v Speaker 3>though we all agree that Sean berg is the.

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<v Speaker 4>Numb one started for the White Sox right now, Sean.

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<v Speaker 3>Burke and Luis Castillo question mark question mark, Like, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know who I fill in for those question marks

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<v Speaker 3>for the White Sox. So in your opinion, what is

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<v Speaker 3>the White Sox current starting rotation?

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<v Speaker 5>I think you can maybe in that to Jose Arkidi

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<v Speaker 5>right now. Okay, they they phrases a bullpen game, but

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<v Speaker 5>it really was the classic kind of opener bulk boy,

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<v Speaker 5>and Arkadi was the bulk boy, and I think he's

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<v Speaker 5>he and like Jonathan Cannon, and you know, I think

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<v Speaker 5>they're kind of the same same kind of guy to

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<v Speaker 5>where and Fetti two to that regard of just you

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<v Speaker 5>can hope that they get their lineup twice and then

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<v Speaker 5>after that anything is a bonus, but hopefully they have

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<v Speaker 5>an opener beforehand who doesn't take away from their high

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<v Speaker 5>leverage pile later in the game. And so you're talking

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<v Speaker 5>about getting through five innings or you have your bullpen

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<v Speaker 5>entirely arrested and like Shaw Newcomb, ready to go with

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<v Speaker 5>multiple innings afterwards. But I would guess it's Arcadia and Fetti.

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<v Speaker 5>It's just I think having those two guys being kind

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<v Speaker 5>of so similar and in terms of not having overwhelming fastballs,

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<v Speaker 5>needing a lot of secondary stuff to get by ya,

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<v Speaker 5>Fetti is I think vulnerable against lefty is, whereas Erkidi

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<v Speaker 5>really has to use his change up against Righty's more

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<v Speaker 5>than And this is me watching him, you know, a

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<v Speaker 5>couple of times, once in Charlotte, once here, but just

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<v Speaker 5>you know, he's easing his change up a lot against

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<v Speaker 5>Righty's and when it doesn't when it works, it's fine.

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<v Speaker 5>When it doesn't work, you think, like, oh, that's never

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<v Speaker 5>gonna work because of just the way the ball kind

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<v Speaker 5>of tails into the hitter's bat path. And so when

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<v Speaker 5>he gets taken deep on a change up, you think,

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<v Speaker 5>of course he would. And he's just trying to get

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<v Speaker 5>by with two good pitches basically, and he has to

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<v Speaker 5>throw him no matter what, even if the handedness doesn't

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<v Speaker 5>make sense. So I think he makes me, well, I

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<v Speaker 5>guess they both make me nervous, because Fetti just I think,

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<v Speaker 5>got his role kind of messed with a little bit,

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<v Speaker 5>and we'll see if he can regain normalcy or what

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<v Speaker 5>he had established before getting sent down. But I think

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<v Speaker 5>that's probably it right now. David Sandlin looked good his

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<v Speaker 5>last time out. Not sure if I know a Schultz.

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<v Speaker 5>They have some options, but I think yet it's going

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<v Speaker 5>to be three starters probably you know Erkidi with an opener.

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<v Speaker 5>I just don't know if he can get by with

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<v Speaker 5>Feeddi and Urkidi because that's just a lot of maintenance

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<v Speaker 5>for one spot and needing lineup a lot of arms

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<v Speaker 5>to make sure it goes right. So I would hope,

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<v Speaker 5>I like the next turn through the rotation that you

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<v Speaker 5>get a little bit more clarity based on just only

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<v Speaker 5>having one of those guys require assistance, whether it's before

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<v Speaker 5>or after you having the earmark a reliever to try

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<v Speaker 5>to complete five or six.

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<v Speaker 3>Would they consider bringing back Sandlin or Noah Schultz before

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<v Speaker 3>this weekend because it's been more than a week since

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<v Speaker 3>they were both optioned.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean Sandlin seems like he might be closer.

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<v Speaker 5>He just pitched Saturday, I believe, so like he's probably

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<v Speaker 5>going to be on turn before it happens. Also, like Schultz,

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<v Speaker 5>they cot them off after four innings, so I wonder

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<v Speaker 5>if they just have faith that you know he can

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<v Speaker 5>be full power with the way his knee is kind

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<v Speaker 5>of coming and out in the way his effectiveness is

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<v Speaker 5>kind of way to think Sandlin is the better bet

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<v Speaker 5>for having his best, most powerful stuff. It's just a

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<v Speaker 5>matter of can he sustain it, you know, more than

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<v Speaker 5>three innings before his command kind of loosens on him

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<v Speaker 5>and he kind of starts making his own trouble. So

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<v Speaker 5>I think I would maybe go Sandlin first before Schultz.

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<v Speaker 5>Either way, it's I think you have two options. You

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<v Speaker 5>have the prospects with in game durability issues with Sandlin

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<v Speaker 5>and Schultz. Then you have the Orkidie Fetti out throw

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<v Speaker 5>Jonathan Cannon onto this pile as well, Sean Yeah, Shane

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<v Speaker 5>Smith as well. Having these guys who just they go

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<v Speaker 5>four but then they just either have trouble with efficiency

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<v Speaker 5>or they have trouble with just running out of pitches

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<v Speaker 5>by the time a lineup season three times and so

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<v Speaker 5>you really need to have an idea either before or

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<v Speaker 5>after to try to get them through like a normal

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<v Speaker 5>starters workload.

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<v Speaker 3>I can hear podcasters in the background, Jim in their

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<v Speaker 3>cars or on the trainer bus mentioning Drew Thorpe.

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<v Speaker 4>Is he close to being ready to throw in the majors?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I think he's probably worth the start, So yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>it's I would put him in the Sandlin pile of

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<v Speaker 5>just through five innings with relative ease the last time out.

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<v Speaker 5>He's up to like seventy pitches, So if you were efficient,

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<v Speaker 5>sure like give him luck. It's worth seeing what his

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<v Speaker 5>stuff looks like at some point the season before going

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<v Speaker 5>into the winter, to understand what he might have to offer,

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<v Speaker 5>what he might have to work on. I'm a little

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<v Speaker 5>bit skeptical that he's going to look meaningfully different from

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<v Speaker 5>a couple of years ago, just because velocity is still

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<v Speaker 5>like closer to ninety than ninety two, and he's getting

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<v Speaker 5>he has to throw a whole lot of change ups

0:24:41.560 --> 0:24:44.200
<v Speaker 5>to get by, and it might it's a really good

0:24:44.280 --> 0:24:47.440
<v Speaker 5>change up. So I don't want to say like he should, Yeah,

0:24:47.560 --> 0:24:49.399
<v Speaker 5>he shouldn't rely on his best pitch because it's one

0:24:49.400 --> 0:24:52.840
<v Speaker 5>of the Yeah, it might be the best single pitch

0:24:53.080 --> 0:24:55.000
<v Speaker 5>on the White Sox pitching staff in terms of just

0:24:55.520 --> 0:24:57.240
<v Speaker 5>how much he can get out of it going to

0:24:57.359 --> 0:25:00.320
<v Speaker 5>it over and over again. It's just that when you

0:25:00.560 --> 0:25:05.439
<v Speaker 5>don't have I guess the full revitalization of his velocity,

0:25:06.160 --> 0:25:09.040
<v Speaker 5>and you have a slider and cutter that had problems

0:25:09.040 --> 0:25:10.840
<v Speaker 5>blending into each other when we saw him last in

0:25:10.880 --> 0:25:14.040
<v Speaker 5>the Majors, and based on stat cast, it still kind

0:25:14.040 --> 0:25:17.280
<v Speaker 5>of looks like that's the same case. Those might be

0:25:17.400 --> 0:25:20.040
<v Speaker 5>reasons to think that the success that he's had in

0:25:20.080 --> 0:25:22.640
<v Speaker 5>a pretty smooth ramp up from the miners would transfer

0:25:23.119 --> 0:25:26.639
<v Speaker 5>over pretty smoothly. But yeah, I think by the time

0:25:26.760 --> 0:25:29.600
<v Speaker 5>that spot comes around, like maybe one more start in

0:25:29.720 --> 0:25:33.080
<v Speaker 5>Charlotte's But if it looks anything like his last one,

0:25:33.119 --> 0:25:34.879
<v Speaker 5>then sure throw him in there. See what it looks like,

0:25:35.200 --> 0:25:35.880
<v Speaker 5>nothing to lose.

0:25:36.880 --> 0:25:40.800
<v Speaker 3>It's just really tough right now for Will Venable and

0:25:40.920 --> 0:25:43.199
<v Speaker 3>Zach bow the pitching coach of the White Sox, to

0:25:43.359 --> 0:25:45.840
<v Speaker 3>be working with a star in rotation with just three starters.

0:25:46.840 --> 0:25:48.080
<v Speaker 4>We're gonna be a previewing.

0:25:47.720 --> 0:25:50.240
<v Speaker 3>This upcoming series between the White Sox and Cubs, but

0:25:50.560 --> 0:25:53.560
<v Speaker 3>it looks like it's Luis Castillo on Monday and back

0:25:53.600 --> 0:25:55.560
<v Speaker 3>to back Bullbaden games for the White Sox.

0:25:55.600 --> 0:25:57.439
<v Speaker 4>Like that's tough. That's a tough way.

0:25:57.320 --> 0:26:01.080
<v Speaker 5>To live, I will say, though, like watching Venable ack

0:26:01.119 --> 0:26:03.920
<v Speaker 5>America Park, where I'm not sure what the seating situation

0:26:03.960 --> 0:26:05.720
<v Speaker 5>is there because they always show him close up, but

0:26:05.720 --> 0:26:07.640
<v Speaker 5>he's always got like his feet up on the concrete

0:26:07.640 --> 0:26:10.199
<v Speaker 5>and his elbows, like his elbows are on his knees,

0:26:10.240 --> 0:26:13.240
<v Speaker 5>and he just looks even the White Sox are trailing

0:26:13.280 --> 0:26:16.080
<v Speaker 5>by three or winning by five, like he has the

0:26:16.119 --> 0:26:22.080
<v Speaker 5>same position each time, and whether he's has a starter

0:26:22.160 --> 0:26:24.840
<v Speaker 5>who's cruising or throwing well enough, or whether he's got

0:26:24.880 --> 0:26:27.480
<v Speaker 5>Jose Orkhaty and he needs two and a third inning

0:26:27.480 --> 0:26:29.479
<v Speaker 5>from Sean Newcomb and he's got to use Grant Taylor

0:26:29.800 --> 0:26:33.080
<v Speaker 5>on back to back games, like he's he looks very

0:26:33.200 --> 0:26:38.720
<v Speaker 5>comfortable being uncomfortable in terms of his pitching elections. And

0:26:39.160 --> 0:26:43.119
<v Speaker 5>you know, it's a stark contrast to Rick Renteria in

0:26:43.480 --> 0:26:47.040
<v Speaker 5>Oakland at the Coliseum, you know, bent over at the waist,

0:26:47.080 --> 0:26:49.280
<v Speaker 5>hands on his knees, praying for somebody to give him

0:26:49.280 --> 0:26:53.399
<v Speaker 5>a clean inning. In terms of body language from manager,

0:26:54.440 --> 0:26:59.280
<v Speaker 5>if he is either panicking or just truly throwing stuff

0:26:59.280 --> 0:27:02.240
<v Speaker 5>against the wall, what sticks, he doesn't give it away.

0:27:02.440 --> 0:27:04.399
<v Speaker 5>And I think that's something like it reminds me of

0:27:04.440 --> 0:27:07.560
<v Speaker 5>a you know, one time I was on a flight

0:27:07.680 --> 0:27:10.399
<v Speaker 5>that needed to he needed to assume the position on

0:27:10.560 --> 0:27:13.919
<v Speaker 5>landing because there was like a flat tire in the

0:27:14.000 --> 0:27:17.439
<v Speaker 5>landing gear and so you had to like but I

0:27:17.480 --> 0:27:20.480
<v Speaker 5>was watching the flight attendants and they they had game

0:27:20.520 --> 0:27:22.840
<v Speaker 5>faces are like they were. They look completely relaxed. It's like,

0:27:23.280 --> 0:27:25.600
<v Speaker 5>I have no control over this situation. I'm gonna take

0:27:25.640 --> 0:27:29.240
<v Speaker 5>their cue. They look the other h I'm reading their faces.

0:27:29.280 --> 0:27:31.359
<v Speaker 5>I'm not seeing any tension. I'm not either, just kind

0:27:31.400 --> 0:27:33.240
<v Speaker 5>of walking up and down the aisle doing the last

0:27:34.000 --> 0:27:36.640
<v Speaker 5>trash checks and everything like that. So it's like, if

0:27:36.640 --> 0:27:38.680
<v Speaker 5>they're not freaking out, I'm not going to freak out.

0:27:38.720 --> 0:27:42.400
<v Speaker 5>And whether they were calm and just had reassurances at all,

0:27:42.520 --> 0:27:46.160
<v Speaker 5>the having the fire truck on the runway was completely precautionary,

0:27:46.840 --> 0:27:48.920
<v Speaker 5>or whether they were saying like I don't know what's

0:27:48.920 --> 0:27:50.919
<v Speaker 5>going to happen, they didn't give it away. And so

0:27:51.280 --> 0:27:53.000
<v Speaker 5>the Eventable reminds me of that a little bit in

0:27:53.119 --> 0:27:56.280
<v Speaker 5>terms of his body language being if he is panicking,

0:27:56.440 --> 0:27:59.000
<v Speaker 5>you know, maybe it's the glasses too, the dark sunglasses

0:27:59.040 --> 0:28:01.360
<v Speaker 5>doing work, but you don't, yeah.

0:28:01.160 --> 0:28:01.920
<v Speaker 4>Hide the fear.

0:28:03.600 --> 0:28:06.040
<v Speaker 3>So while we have questions about the White Sox starting

0:28:06.080 --> 0:28:10.040
<v Speaker 3>pitching staff, we have seen the White Sox, especially Will

0:28:10.119 --> 0:28:15.560
<v Speaker 3>Venable lately Jim be comfortable having like Grant Taylor and

0:28:15.640 --> 0:28:22.239
<v Speaker 3>Sean Newcomb try these multiple inning save opportunities. Should we

0:28:22.320 --> 0:28:26.000
<v Speaker 3>expect this moving forward for the White Sox in which

0:28:26.560 --> 0:28:30.040
<v Speaker 3>Taylor's coming in maybe with two outs of the seventh inning,

0:28:30.480 --> 0:28:32.440
<v Speaker 3>and he's just not trying to get that last stout

0:28:32.480 --> 0:28:35.560
<v Speaker 3>of the seventh and try to pitch a clean eighth.

0:28:35.600 --> 0:28:37.480
<v Speaker 3>He's going to try to take it all the way

0:28:37.520 --> 0:28:38.600
<v Speaker 3>as far as he can.

0:28:39.760 --> 0:28:41.080
<v Speaker 4>What do you think about.

0:28:41.000 --> 0:28:44.880
<v Speaker 3>As far as these multiple inning save opportunities for Taylor

0:28:44.960 --> 0:28:45.560
<v Speaker 3>and newcome.

0:28:46.960 --> 0:28:50.640
<v Speaker 5>I think in a big series like this one where

0:28:50.640 --> 0:28:53.360
<v Speaker 5>you can take you know, you can add to your

0:28:53.520 --> 0:28:56.920
<v Speaker 5>direct challenger's lost column with these wins. Like I think

0:28:56.920 --> 0:28:59.040
<v Speaker 5>we saw him on Friday and Saturday. I think Friday

0:28:59.120 --> 0:29:02.240
<v Speaker 5>especially is like when game, no matter what, we just

0:29:02.280 --> 0:29:04.000
<v Speaker 5>got to win this game. We're in position to do it.

0:29:04.320 --> 0:29:08.120
<v Speaker 5>We're going to have Grant Taylor in even though like

0:29:08.200 --> 0:29:10.600
<v Speaker 5>we might have the leverage or he might have a

0:29:10.600 --> 0:29:12.719
<v Speaker 5>low enough leverage or enough cushion to try to get

0:29:12.720 --> 0:29:15.000
<v Speaker 5>an inning from Trevor Richards. You know, he didn't do that.

0:29:15.040 --> 0:29:18.120
<v Speaker 5>He went with Grant Taylor when he needed to and

0:29:18.160 --> 0:29:21.880
<v Speaker 5>then he got that win put in his pocket, and

0:29:22.760 --> 0:29:24.840
<v Speaker 5>you locked in that he was going to be coming

0:29:24.880 --> 0:29:26.960
<v Speaker 5>out of Comerica Park with the series or with the

0:29:26.960 --> 0:29:29.880
<v Speaker 5>division lead after the series, no matter what. He saw

0:29:29.920 --> 0:29:32.640
<v Speaker 5>the second game and another chance to win, Grant Taylor

0:29:32.640 --> 0:29:34.280
<v Speaker 5>only threw eighteen pitches even though it was one and

0:29:34.320 --> 0:29:37.640
<v Speaker 5>two thirds innings, sure back to back games, and he

0:29:37.720 --> 0:29:40.320
<v Speaker 5>did that again and he got the series win out

0:29:40.320 --> 0:29:44.160
<v Speaker 5>of it. And I think in these situations you are

0:29:44.160 --> 0:29:47.120
<v Speaker 5>going to see more aggressive bullpen deployment. And I think

0:29:47.160 --> 0:29:50.240
<v Speaker 5>Sean Nukomb as well. I think there are diminishing returns.

0:29:50.280 --> 0:29:52.200
<v Speaker 5>You see this especially in the postseason, when you try

0:29:52.200 --> 0:29:54.760
<v Speaker 5>to stretch relievers out and or you try to get

0:29:54.800 --> 0:29:58.440
<v Speaker 5>them to pitch four times in five games. You see

0:29:58.560 --> 0:30:02.719
<v Speaker 5>the either stuff wayn or the opponent's getting a handle,

0:30:02.960 --> 0:30:05.840
<v Speaker 5>or you know, kind of like a traject machine come

0:30:05.880 --> 0:30:07.800
<v Speaker 5>to life, like just seeing the reps in front of

0:30:07.840 --> 0:30:10.120
<v Speaker 5>you so many times that hitters can get a beat

0:30:10.160 --> 0:30:13.719
<v Speaker 5>on it to where I think if he can avoid

0:30:13.800 --> 0:30:17.360
<v Speaker 5>it in situations where he's looking at the scoreboard and

0:30:17.360 --> 0:30:21.240
<v Speaker 5>see's like okay, Detroit or Cleveland loss, I can try

0:30:21.280 --> 0:30:25.640
<v Speaker 5>to steal an ending with you just yeah, Trevor Richards,

0:30:25.640 --> 0:30:28.880
<v Speaker 5>I think is probably that. Maybe Haascar Brazobon too is

0:30:28.960 --> 0:30:32.640
<v Speaker 5>in this bucket of relievers who are not somebody necessarily

0:30:32.680 --> 0:30:36.040
<v Speaker 5>trust in a one run game, but have enough veteran

0:30:36.280 --> 0:30:41.080
<v Speaker 5>know how to you know, handing the ball, and if

0:30:41.120 --> 0:30:44.120
<v Speaker 5>they fail, it's their failure, not venables. So I think

0:30:44.160 --> 0:30:46.920
<v Speaker 5>that's I think maybe how I would see it going

0:30:47.000 --> 0:30:51.000
<v Speaker 5>down over the next you know, three four weeks. If

0:30:51.000 --> 0:30:52.920
<v Speaker 5>he can get by without it, I think he will.

0:30:53.000 --> 0:30:55.280
<v Speaker 5>But I think if he needs a win or if

0:30:55.280 --> 0:30:59.600
<v Speaker 5>a win would either it's stealing a division rival a

0:30:59.600 --> 0:31:02.440
<v Speaker 5>blow or just having a chance to get a get

0:31:02.440 --> 0:31:05.640
<v Speaker 5>a win. When you look at your next day's pitching situation,

0:31:05.760 --> 0:31:08.960
<v Speaker 5>think like, that's not going to be We're not counting

0:31:08.960 --> 0:31:10.560
<v Speaker 5>on a win out of that one. Let's get this

0:31:10.560 --> 0:31:12.760
<v Speaker 5>one no matter what. I think that's probably how you're

0:31:12.760 --> 0:31:16.479
<v Speaker 5>going to see him pursue these reliever situations aggressively. I

0:31:16.520 --> 0:31:19.680
<v Speaker 5>think he's going to try to avoid wearing down any

0:31:19.720 --> 0:31:22.160
<v Speaker 5>one reliever if he can avoid it. But yeah, I

0:31:22.200 --> 0:31:24.640
<v Speaker 5>think if it comes last week the season and neck

0:31:24.680 --> 0:31:26.800
<v Speaker 5>and neck, then yeah, I think it will be just

0:31:26.840 --> 0:31:29.720
<v Speaker 5>going with your best reliever no matter what and pushing

0:31:29.760 --> 0:31:31.320
<v Speaker 5>him to the point of failure. The way you see

0:31:31.360 --> 0:31:32.080
<v Speaker 5>it in the postseason.

0:31:32.440 --> 0:31:35.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I just I was wondering, like in the first game,

0:31:35.240 --> 0:31:37.520
<v Speaker 3>like with Jordan Hicks, like maybe I would have went

0:31:37.560 --> 0:31:40.720
<v Speaker 3>to Jordan Hicks before going to Grant Taylor, because I

0:31:40.720 --> 0:31:43.400
<v Speaker 3>think everyone should be a little bit more confident with

0:31:43.560 --> 0:31:45.240
<v Speaker 3>Jordan Hicks has had through the game, Jip, with the

0:31:45.280 --> 0:31:48.680
<v Speaker 3>way that he has been throwing, I think he's merited

0:31:49.720 --> 0:31:52.360
<v Speaker 3>some confidence in his ability to get out of a

0:31:52.440 --> 0:31:56.200
<v Speaker 3>medium or high leverage situation for the White Sox. But

0:31:56.240 --> 0:31:58.480
<v Speaker 3>then again, it's kind of nice to have Jordan Hicks

0:31:59.000 --> 0:32:01.840
<v Speaker 3>in your back pocket if you have to go into

0:32:01.960 --> 0:32:05.560
<v Speaker 3>extra innings because he's such a tough pitcher to deal with,

0:32:06.080 --> 0:32:08.000
<v Speaker 3>even though you have a runner on second base. I

0:32:08.040 --> 0:32:10.320
<v Speaker 3>can't imagine how fun it would be trying to lay

0:32:10.320 --> 0:32:15.920
<v Speaker 3>down a bunt against Jordan Hicks. But I guess I'm

0:32:15.960 --> 0:32:18.320
<v Speaker 3>with you, Like, I don't know if it's the best idea,

0:32:18.520 --> 0:32:23.000
<v Speaker 3>but I am expecting more multi inning opportunities Forget Taylor

0:32:23.040 --> 0:32:25.680
<v Speaker 3>at Sea Duka, maybe even trying to get one time

0:32:25.720 --> 0:32:28.960
<v Speaker 3>through the order and if they're not walking anyone and

0:32:29.000 --> 0:32:32.400
<v Speaker 3>the opposing team can't hit them, sure go for it.

0:32:32.640 --> 0:32:37.080
<v Speaker 3>Try to get that get that three inning save, and yeah.

0:32:37.440 --> 0:32:40.480
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and I think Hicks, like I maybe would have

0:32:40.520 --> 0:32:42.840
<v Speaker 5>gone to him before Taylor, but then again, he was

0:32:42.880 --> 0:32:45.720
<v Speaker 5>fresh for one and two thirds innings on Saturday, so yeah,

0:32:45.760 --> 0:32:49.320
<v Speaker 5>like it's it's a case where in a single game

0:32:50.520 --> 0:32:52.720
<v Speaker 5>and you have you know, if you're worried about usage

0:32:52.760 --> 0:32:55.360
<v Speaker 5>than me, I think Hicks is maybe not interchangeable with Taylor,

0:32:55.400 --> 0:32:57.520
<v Speaker 5>but I think he's maybe one notch down to where

0:32:58.360 --> 0:33:00.960
<v Speaker 5>if he loses a one run lead in the eighth inning,

0:33:01.000 --> 0:33:03.280
<v Speaker 5>you're surprised. And I think that's how I would judge it.

0:33:03.320 --> 0:33:06.120
<v Speaker 5>But yeah, when you have Taylor going and then you

0:33:06.160 --> 0:33:08.960
<v Speaker 5>have you think you're gonna be dealing with the shorter

0:33:09.040 --> 0:33:11.400
<v Speaker 5>start the next day, or you think you're gonna need

0:33:11.440 --> 0:33:14.320
<v Speaker 5>somebody to cover the six and seventh innings, then having

0:33:14.520 --> 0:33:17.120
<v Speaker 5>a fresh Hicks there to be able to go beyond

0:33:17.200 --> 0:33:20.360
<v Speaker 5>one inning, you know, he's not maybe the kind of

0:33:20.440 --> 0:33:23.800
<v Speaker 5>length weapon that Sean Newcomb is. And I think Taylor

0:33:23.920 --> 0:33:26.080
<v Speaker 5>might have a little bit longer of a history of

0:33:26.560 --> 0:33:28.800
<v Speaker 5>throwing two innings of relief as well, But I think Hicks,

0:33:28.880 --> 0:33:32.840
<v Speaker 5>you know, based on both the number of games where

0:33:32.880 --> 0:33:34.760
<v Speaker 5>he's at least started a second inning this year, and

0:33:34.800 --> 0:33:38.160
<v Speaker 5>also his history as a starter that now he's in

0:33:38.160 --> 0:33:41.160
<v Speaker 5>this form where he's throwing four seemers and two seamers

0:33:41.200 --> 0:33:44.120
<v Speaker 5>and getting strikeouts and hitting one hundred and two, that's yeah.

0:33:44.120 --> 0:33:45.720
<v Speaker 5>If he comes back in the second inning and he's

0:33:45.720 --> 0:33:49.560
<v Speaker 5>still hitting triple digits, then yeah, push him two innings

0:33:49.600 --> 0:33:54.120
<v Speaker 5>and try to spare newcom or Taylor or you know,

0:33:54.160 --> 0:33:57.960
<v Speaker 5>anybody else an inning to where you might be able

0:33:57.960 --> 0:34:00.760
<v Speaker 5>to use the next day, especially when the road is

0:34:00.920 --> 0:34:02.200
<v Speaker 5>as uncertain as it is.

0:34:02.560 --> 0:34:05.040
<v Speaker 3>And Brian Hudson has been throwing better. He threw better

0:34:05.040 --> 0:34:09.160
<v Speaker 3>in this series than he did against the reds Now.

0:34:09.200 --> 0:34:11.520
<v Speaker 4>This brings up who I think might be the.

0:34:11.560 --> 0:34:15.359
<v Speaker 3>X factor now in the White Sox bullpen. And this

0:34:15.400 --> 0:34:20.160
<v Speaker 3>has been the Hagen Smith experience, Jim. He hasn't allowed

0:34:20.160 --> 0:34:23.160
<v Speaker 3>to run, he hasn't even allowed to hit. In four

0:34:23.239 --> 0:34:27.480
<v Speaker 3>two thirds innings, you'd be thinking we found our future closer.

0:34:28.320 --> 0:34:32.120
<v Speaker 3>Except a lot of the seven strikeouts, which is awesome.

0:34:32.840 --> 0:34:37.200
<v Speaker 4>Six blocks. Like I've been listening to.

0:34:37.160 --> 0:34:40.879
<v Speaker 3>The radio broadcast more because I want with the whole

0:34:40.920 --> 0:34:44.040
<v Speaker 3>Colston Montgomery situation, his struggles. I wanted to get Darren

0:34:44.120 --> 0:34:49.839
<v Speaker 3>Jackson's perspective. Jim of Montgomery's plate approach, just to get

0:34:49.880 --> 0:34:53.640
<v Speaker 3>that additional insight from a former major league kitterer and

0:34:53.719 --> 0:34:58.520
<v Speaker 3>what is been the issue for Colson Montgomery. But listening

0:34:58.560 --> 0:35:03.240
<v Speaker 3>to lenin DJ describe the Hagen Smith experience and it's funny,

0:35:03.280 --> 0:35:07.000
<v Speaker 3>it's one of our favorite baseball podcasts, but yeah, this

0:35:07.280 --> 0:35:11.799
<v Speaker 3>is the definition of effectively wild. You can't hit him.

0:35:12.520 --> 0:35:16.200
<v Speaker 3>He's gonna walk you, but you can't hit him right now.

0:35:16.280 --> 0:35:18.719
<v Speaker 3>So is he going to be the White Sox X

0:35:18.760 --> 0:35:19.800
<v Speaker 3>factor in their bullpen?

0:35:21.200 --> 0:35:25.880
<v Speaker 5>Could be especially in games that he can. You know,

0:35:25.920 --> 0:35:28.520
<v Speaker 5>he's picked up two wins in three games, like he's

0:35:28.560 --> 0:35:33.160
<v Speaker 5>been in these situations where it's maybe not classic high leverage,

0:35:33.200 --> 0:35:35.120
<v Speaker 5>but it's at a point where the game can tilt.

0:35:36.000 --> 0:35:40.319
<v Speaker 5>And I think he's he's not somebody that you want

0:35:40.360 --> 0:35:42.680
<v Speaker 5>to throw in those situations if you don't have to.

0:35:42.960 --> 0:35:45.520
<v Speaker 5>I think he's a rookie still even though he's a

0:35:45.640 --> 0:35:49.239
<v Speaker 5>very we'll call it dynamic for lack of a better word,

0:35:49.280 --> 0:35:53.920
<v Speaker 5>in terms of just how eventful and highs and lows

0:35:53.960 --> 0:35:59.040
<v Speaker 5>of a single inning can be. That I think if

0:35:59.040 --> 0:36:01.239
<v Speaker 5>you try to do that every single time, where you know,

0:36:01.320 --> 0:36:03.800
<v Speaker 5>sixth inning tie game, Hagen Smith, for one plus innings,

0:36:04.600 --> 0:36:07.040
<v Speaker 5>you're maybe putting them in a position to fail or

0:36:07.400 --> 0:36:10.160
<v Speaker 5>putting a position where, like his the walks could bite him.

0:36:10.200 --> 0:36:12.279
<v Speaker 5>And then you're saying, oh, yeah, you walked, you know,

0:36:12.320 --> 0:36:13.960
<v Speaker 5>one and a half guys an inning. Why wouldn't that

0:36:14.000 --> 0:36:16.640
<v Speaker 5>explode him at some point? So I do think you

0:36:16.760 --> 0:36:18.920
<v Speaker 5>have to protect them at some point. But in this

0:36:19.040 --> 0:36:23.600
<v Speaker 5>situation where you have two spots uncertain where the relievers

0:36:23.640 --> 0:36:27.440
<v Speaker 5>have to cover fifth six innings, yeah, he's probably a

0:36:27.600 --> 0:36:30.040
<v Speaker 5>pretty good candidate for a front of the bullpen. Like

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<v Speaker 5>if he's somebody if you have like Taylor and Newcomb

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<v Speaker 5>and Hudson and Hicks as your options higher up on

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<v Speaker 5>the leverage ladder, then you're talking about like the front

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<v Speaker 5>half of your bullpen. And like if Hagen Smith is

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<v Speaker 5>in the front half of your bullpen, then yeah, he's

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<v Speaker 5>probably be getting those like fifth sixth inning outings and

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<v Speaker 5>it's not a terrible choice. So and he's also got

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<v Speaker 5>enough history in terms of like going multiple innings even

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<v Speaker 5>starting that if he does make that first inning look easy,

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<v Speaker 5>like if he has his command on point and he

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<v Speaker 5>gets through one inning and two strikeouts and twelve pitches,

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<v Speaker 5>then yeah, a second inning is no brainer, so I

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<v Speaker 5>do think he's next factor in the sense that you know,

0:37:15.080 --> 0:37:18.759
<v Speaker 5>maybe he's not going to be trusted in high leverage situations,

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<v Speaker 5>like he's not going to be rivaling Tailor for saves

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<v Speaker 5>the ninth inning. But I do think he's somebody who

0:37:25.000 --> 0:37:29.800
<v Speaker 5>can affect games earlier because of just how many short

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<v Speaker 5>starts or bullpen games or opener situations the White Sox

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<v Speaker 5>have to deal with.

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<v Speaker 3>I would not bring him into an inning where there's

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<v Speaker 3>runners on first and second and nobody out.

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<v Speaker 4>I would try to bring him in and clean innings.

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<v Speaker 3>But the Hagen Smith experience has been wild. It's not

0:37:47.320 --> 0:37:51.000
<v Speaker 3>for the faint of heart, by no imagination, but the

0:37:51.040 --> 0:37:53.360
<v Speaker 3>fact that he is what struck out half the batters

0:37:53.400 --> 0:37:56.120
<v Speaker 3>that he's faced as far as or half of his

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<v Speaker 3>outs have been resulted in strikeouts.

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<v Speaker 4>It's clearly there.

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<v Speaker 3>Like we've been saying for a long time, the stuff

0:38:02.280 --> 0:38:05.279
<v Speaker 3>that Hagen Smith hass is very difficult to square up.

0:38:06.040 --> 0:38:08.960
<v Speaker 3>That's not the problem. The problem is the control and

0:38:09.040 --> 0:38:12.440
<v Speaker 3>command of his stuff. But I mean, if he can

0:38:12.480 --> 0:38:16.279
<v Speaker 3>come in and he's an unhittable reliever and the other

0:38:16.360 --> 0:38:18.600
<v Speaker 3>team's game plan is we're just going to wait a

0:38:18.680 --> 0:38:21.719
<v Speaker 3>mount until he walks us. That's a dangerous game plan

0:38:21.800 --> 0:38:25.000
<v Speaker 3>too for the opposing team. Try to having to walk

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<v Speaker 3>your way to score run.

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<v Speaker 4>No team has.

0:38:27.600 --> 0:38:30.280
<v Speaker 3>Yet to do that against Hagen Smith again, no hits

0:38:30.320 --> 0:38:33.120
<v Speaker 3>and no run so far in his major league career.

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<v Speaker 4>Pretty impressive stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome back to the Sox Machine podcast. The White Sox

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<v Speaker 3>now lay three games at Wrigley Field against the Chicago Cubs.

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<v Speaker 3>The Cubs are seventy two and fifty three this season.

0:39:57.480 --> 0:39:59.800
<v Speaker 3>They lost their last two games against the Saint Louis

0:39:59.800 --> 0:40:01.680
<v Speaker 3>car knows what. They are six and four in their

0:40:01.760 --> 0:40:04.920
<v Speaker 3>last ten. They've been very good at Wrigley Field this year.

0:40:05.320 --> 0:40:09.040
<v Speaker 3>They are thirty six and twenty six. Your bdging problems

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<v Speaker 3>for this series. Monday and Tuesday are seven o five

0:40:13.239 --> 0:40:16.360
<v Speaker 3>pm Central Time starts. It will be showed to Immanaga

0:40:16.719 --> 0:40:20.120
<v Speaker 3>for the Chicago Cubs against Luis Castillo on Monday night.

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<v Speaker 3>Tuesday night, this game is a national broadcast on TBS.

0:40:24.800 --> 0:40:28.040
<v Speaker 3>It mean Kevin Goussman for the Toronto Blue Jayson. We'll

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<v Speaker 3>find out later and who the White Sox are at

0:40:30.160 --> 0:40:32.759
<v Speaker 3>least going to open that game on Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 4>Wednesday is getaway Day.

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<v Speaker 3>This is a one twenty BM Central time start. The

0:40:38.120 --> 0:40:40.960
<v Speaker 3>Cubs are going to throw out Clay Holmes, and again

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<v Speaker 3>we'll find out what the White Sox want to do

0:40:43.040 --> 0:40:45.840
<v Speaker 3>on the bitching side. That's a big storyline for the

0:40:45.920 --> 0:40:48.480
<v Speaker 3>Chicago White Sox in this series against the Chicago Cubs

0:40:48.560 --> 0:40:52.320
<v Speaker 3>is exactly who is going to be pitching in this series.

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<v Speaker 3>Some bad news for the Chicago Cubs. Dancy Swanson has

0:40:55.960 --> 0:40:59.360
<v Speaker 3>been put on the injured list with an oblique issue.

0:40:59.400 --> 0:41:02.080
<v Speaker 3>So be it to see what the Cubs do at

0:41:02.080 --> 0:41:06.960
<v Speaker 3>the shortstop position. But in this series, Jim, there's like

0:41:07.040 --> 0:41:09.560
<v Speaker 3>two points that I really want to touch on. One,

0:41:11.080 --> 0:41:14.000
<v Speaker 3>we'll see what Kevin Gusman and Clay Holmes can provide

0:41:14.719 --> 0:41:17.960
<v Speaker 3>on the mound from a starting pitching side. But watching

0:41:18.040 --> 0:41:21.360
<v Speaker 3>the highlights, especially, did you see Joshua Bias, Like just

0:41:21.400 --> 0:41:24.080
<v Speaker 3>the highlights, Like, everybody, stop what you're doing, put us

0:41:24.120 --> 0:41:27.160
<v Speaker 3>on pause, go watch those three home runs. That dude

0:41:27.440 --> 0:41:31.720
<v Speaker 3>has got power. There has just been this growing fear

0:41:31.840 --> 0:41:34.279
<v Speaker 3>about this Cub's bullbent and we saw it in May

0:41:34.320 --> 0:41:35.920
<v Speaker 3>the White Socks were able to take.

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<v Speaker 4>Advantage of it.

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<v Speaker 3>If mother nature cooperates, I have a feeling this is

0:41:41.520 --> 0:41:43.799
<v Speaker 3>going to be a high scoring series, and maybe this

0:41:43.840 --> 0:41:46.799
<v Speaker 3>will be a cold take. The Cubs are averaging five

0:41:46.800 --> 0:41:49.400
<v Speaker 3>point one six runs per game. The White Sox are

0:41:49.440 --> 0:41:52.520
<v Speaker 3>averaging four point eight two runs per game, So offenses

0:41:52.560 --> 0:41:54.440
<v Speaker 3>are pretty good, and both of these teams.

0:41:54.239 --> 0:41:55.600
<v Speaker 4>Are top ten in home runs.

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<v Speaker 3>Again, mother nature has to cooperate, but I have a feeling, Jim,

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<v Speaker 3>this could be a pretty high scoring series.

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<v Speaker 5>Again, Yeah, it could be. When you look at the Cubs,

0:42:06.520 --> 0:42:09.880
<v Speaker 5>like the lineup is strong one to nine or at

0:42:09.920 --> 0:42:11.960
<v Speaker 5>least it's deep, Like you don't maybe have I guess

0:42:12.000 --> 0:42:14.759
<v Speaker 5>with Bregmann hitting the way he's been hitting recently, that's,

0:42:14.840 --> 0:42:17.920
<v Speaker 5>you know, a centerpiece hitter, but you don't have maybe

0:42:17.960 --> 0:42:21.360
<v Speaker 5>the classic middle of the order masher, you know, I

0:42:21.400 --> 0:42:25.359
<v Speaker 5>think you know, PCA is pretty much there. Strikeouts may

0:42:25.360 --> 0:42:27.680
<v Speaker 5>be a little bit elevated to where you feel like

0:42:27.680 --> 0:42:30.240
<v Speaker 5>you can pitch to them, but it's just so deep.

0:42:30.280 --> 0:42:32.040
<v Speaker 5>And it's again one of those lines we talk about

0:42:32.080 --> 0:42:34.799
<v Speaker 5>the White Sox having when they're functioning to where they

0:42:34.800 --> 0:42:37.360
<v Speaker 5>can start a rally from anywhere that you don't feel

0:42:37.360 --> 0:42:39.120
<v Speaker 5>like any inning is easy, that you don't feel like

0:42:39.120 --> 0:42:41.960
<v Speaker 5>there's a soft patch, like you know, when sar Anthony

0:42:42.000 --> 0:42:44.040
<v Speaker 5>Domingez was on the White Sox and you're looking for

0:42:44.239 --> 0:42:47.480
<v Speaker 5>pockets to put them in to where I can maybe

0:42:47.520 --> 0:42:52.239
<v Speaker 5>face this six seven eights and not worry about walking them.

0:42:52.280 --> 0:42:55.600
<v Speaker 5>Like the Cubs really don't offer that kind of pockets.

0:42:56.239 --> 0:42:58.160
<v Speaker 5>Maybe with handedness a little bit, you can kind of

0:42:58.360 --> 0:43:02.160
<v Speaker 5>mix and match, but in terms of plate discipline and

0:43:02.360 --> 0:43:04.720
<v Speaker 5>the ability to all of a sudden lead off double

0:43:04.760 --> 0:43:10.640
<v Speaker 5>and you're in trouble, that lineup is talented in that regard.

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<v Speaker 5>So I think, yeah, it could be just a between

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<v Speaker 5>the White Sox power if their top end power shows

0:43:17.640 --> 0:43:19.880
<v Speaker 5>up at Wrigley, and we'll see what the wind is

0:43:19.920 --> 0:43:22.000
<v Speaker 5>doing there too, because like that can affect whether it's

0:43:22.000 --> 0:43:25.240
<v Speaker 5>a pitching park, we're hitting park, but like you can see,

0:43:25.280 --> 0:43:28.319
<v Speaker 5>like if the wind is favorable or at least not

0:43:28.400 --> 0:43:30.520
<v Speaker 5>killing them, and the White Sox top end power shows

0:43:30.560 --> 0:43:33.520
<v Speaker 5>up and any of the Cubs going one through nine,

0:43:33.640 --> 0:43:37.160
<v Speaker 5>it could feel yeah, just even if it's not like

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<v Speaker 5>high scoring, it can just feel tiring if you're following

0:43:40.719 --> 0:43:44.840
<v Speaker 5>along pitch to pitch with you know, whatever pitching staff,

0:43:44.880 --> 0:43:45.920
<v Speaker 5>you have an interest.

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<v Speaker 3>In first team to nine runs, Wayne's it kind of

0:43:49.400 --> 0:43:52.800
<v Speaker 3>feels that way. The Cubs lineup, to Jim's point, already

0:43:52.840 --> 0:43:55.640
<v Speaker 3>have five hitters with fifteen or more home runs.

0:43:55.640 --> 0:43:57.320
<v Speaker 4>The next home run by Michael Bush.

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<v Speaker 3>Will give the Cubs six hitters with fifteen or more

0:44:00.560 --> 0:44:04.319
<v Speaker 3>home runs. So pretty impressive lineups for both teams as

0:44:04.360 --> 0:44:07.800
<v Speaker 3>far as home run power is concerned. My second point,

0:44:08.400 --> 0:44:10.600
<v Speaker 3>I feel like in the city of Chicago, there's a

0:44:10.600 --> 0:44:13.279
<v Speaker 3>lot going on this weekend. The Chicago Bears had their

0:44:13.320 --> 0:44:17.000
<v Speaker 3>first preseason game gym, the Aaron Water Show was this

0:44:17.040 --> 0:44:21.440
<v Speaker 3>weekend in Chicago, and of course Cubs versus Cardinals this weekend.

0:44:21.480 --> 0:44:25.360
<v Speaker 3>There was a lot going on in Chicago. I feel

0:44:25.400 --> 0:44:29.240
<v Speaker 3>like this series has snuck up on people in the city,

0:44:29.960 --> 0:44:34.800
<v Speaker 3>and I'm thinking it's because it's the Monday through Wednesday series.

0:44:34.840 --> 0:44:38.000
<v Speaker 3>So here's my hot sake for future scheduling when it

0:44:38.000 --> 0:44:41.200
<v Speaker 3>comes to the White Sox and Cubs. I feel this

0:44:41.320 --> 0:44:44.520
<v Speaker 3>series should always be on the weekend. I think that

0:44:44.640 --> 0:44:47.839
<v Speaker 3>is most advantageous as far as to drop up as

0:44:47.880 --> 0:44:52.600
<v Speaker 3>much excitement as possible in Chicago. There should be, in

0:44:52.640 --> 0:44:56.239
<v Speaker 3>my opinion, more excitement and more attention to what's going

0:44:56.320 --> 0:44:58.640
<v Speaker 3>to be happy in these next three days because both

0:44:58.680 --> 0:45:01.960
<v Speaker 3>teams are playing excellent baseball right now, both teams could

0:45:02.000 --> 0:45:05.920
<v Speaker 3>be making into the postseason. This could be an incredibly

0:45:06.000 --> 0:45:10.680
<v Speaker 3>fun late September early October in Chicago with the Bears

0:45:10.719 --> 0:45:14.120
<v Speaker 3>playing football and the Bulls and Blackhawks about to start

0:45:14.120 --> 0:45:16.319
<v Speaker 3>their seasons and the White Sox and Cubs are in

0:45:16.320 --> 0:45:16.920
<v Speaker 3>the playoffs.

0:45:17.000 --> 0:45:18.359
<v Speaker 4>Like the buzz of this.

0:45:18.400 --> 0:45:20.719
<v Speaker 3>City in the summer is just going to be extended

0:45:21.440 --> 0:45:25.600
<v Speaker 3>into fall. And that makes me really hyped up. But

0:45:25.680 --> 0:45:28.560
<v Speaker 3>I don't know about you being outside of Chicago, but

0:45:28.640 --> 0:45:32.160
<v Speaker 3>it just feels like there's not as much excitement heading into.

0:45:31.920 --> 0:45:35.160
<v Speaker 4>This series as we saw earlier in the year in May.

0:45:35.600 --> 0:45:38.880
<v Speaker 3>And I think that's because that series in May was

0:45:38.920 --> 0:45:39.600
<v Speaker 3>over the weekend.

0:45:40.719 --> 0:45:42.680
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I think weekend has a lot to do with it.

0:45:44.480 --> 0:45:46.759
<v Speaker 5>I wonder too, with the White Sox just playing the

0:45:46.800 --> 0:45:50.520
<v Speaker 5>Tigers and that being so important, Like you can't overlook

0:45:50.520 --> 0:45:53.040
<v Speaker 5>a series against Detroit's even if the Cubs are on

0:45:53.080 --> 0:45:55.520
<v Speaker 5>deck show because those three games matter so much. If

0:45:55.520 --> 0:45:57.400
<v Speaker 5>you get swept by the Tigers, you're in second place.

0:45:58.000 --> 0:46:00.600
<v Speaker 5>So I think that had handed it too of just

0:46:00.920 --> 0:46:03.880
<v Speaker 5>already having a measuring stick series in front of the Cubs.

0:46:03.960 --> 0:46:06.919
<v Speaker 5>The Cubs, you know, are its own contexts and own

0:46:06.960 --> 0:46:09.400
<v Speaker 5>bragging rights. But this series against Detroit was just so

0:46:09.560 --> 0:46:14.759
<v Speaker 5>crucial for creating a cushion allowing the White Sox to

0:46:14.840 --> 0:46:17.600
<v Speaker 5>try to figure out the rotation by him some time.

0:46:17.760 --> 0:46:20.200
<v Speaker 5>That's yeah, by the time the Cubs show up, it

0:46:20.280 --> 0:46:24.640
<v Speaker 5>is a big series. But it also maybe lays bare

0:46:24.680 --> 0:46:27.760
<v Speaker 5>a bit to the idea that they are not direct rivals.

0:46:27.920 --> 0:46:30.840
<v Speaker 5>You know, they are city rivals in terms of you know,

0:46:31.320 --> 0:46:36.960
<v Speaker 5>consuming baseball in Chicago, they are direct competitors, but in

0:46:37.040 --> 0:46:40.160
<v Speaker 5>terms of getting to the postseason, both teams are. When

0:46:40.200 --> 0:46:42.359
<v Speaker 5>you have a series against the Tigers right in front

0:46:42.400 --> 0:46:44.279
<v Speaker 5>saying like, yeah, you gotta win these three game, you

0:46:44.400 --> 0:46:46.600
<v Speaker 5>gotta avoid losing all these three games or in second place,

0:46:46.640 --> 0:46:48.800
<v Speaker 5>and perhaps how the postseason picture, depending on what the

0:46:48.880 --> 0:46:53.520
<v Speaker 5>rest of American League does, that it just it becomes

0:46:53.520 --> 0:46:56.680
<v Speaker 5>a little bit more maybe not trivial because these games

0:46:56.680 --> 0:46:59.160
<v Speaker 5>matter to the standings, but you can definitely tell there

0:46:59.800 --> 0:47:02.239
<v Speaker 5>a secondary concern when it comes to making the postseason.

0:47:02.600 --> 0:47:05.439
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's nationallye week for the White Sox. It's three

0:47:06.440 --> 0:47:09.040
<v Speaker 3>at regularly against the Cubs. Then they have that makeup

0:47:09.080 --> 0:47:11.360
<v Speaker 3>on Thursday against the Atlanta Braves, and then they host

0:47:11.400 --> 0:47:13.520
<v Speaker 3>the New York Mets this upcoming weekend of the Mets

0:47:13.560 --> 0:47:17.239
<v Speaker 3>have been playing a lot better baseball as of late,

0:47:17.280 --> 0:47:19.400
<v Speaker 3>before the Texas Rangers come into town, and then the

0:47:19.400 --> 0:47:22.560
<v Speaker 3>White Sox have a day off finally before they head

0:47:22.640 --> 0:47:27.680
<v Speaker 3>up to minneapoliss which is a key series. But even

0:47:27.719 --> 0:47:31.480
<v Speaker 3>though there wasn't as much anticipation into this series as

0:47:31.480 --> 0:47:34.839
<v Speaker 3>it was in May, maybe things will radically change on

0:47:35.000 --> 0:47:37.440
<v Speaker 3>Monday night when the White Sox and Cubs.

0:47:38.040 --> 0:47:40.160
<v Speaker 4>Take each other take each other on. If the White

0:47:40.160 --> 0:47:42.880
<v Speaker 4>Sox win this series, they win the Crosstown Cup.

0:47:43.440 --> 0:47:47.719
<v Speaker 3>I wasn't expecting that this season, So maybe even though

0:47:47.760 --> 0:47:50.480
<v Speaker 3>things are a little quiet now, it could easily go

0:47:50.480 --> 0:47:53.200
<v Speaker 3>from zero to sixty real fast between the White Sox

0:47:53.600 --> 0:47:54.440
<v Speaker 3>and the Cubs.

0:47:54.920 --> 0:47:56.560
<v Speaker 5>Do you think anybody is going to use the term

0:47:56.560 --> 0:47:59.200
<v Speaker 5>World Series preview earnestly now?

0:48:00.280 --> 0:48:03.160
<v Speaker 3>Because so I'm going to be on the score at

0:48:03.200 --> 0:48:07.080
<v Speaker 3>one o'clock on Monday. Podcast listeners, so you can listen

0:48:07.120 --> 0:48:09.439
<v Speaker 3>to that of course on one oh four point three

0:48:09.600 --> 0:48:12.480
<v Speaker 3>FM or six seventy AM, or you could watch the

0:48:12.520 --> 0:48:16.759
<v Speaker 3>scores twitch stream when I'm on the radio station, and

0:48:17.400 --> 0:48:19.439
<v Speaker 3>I don't think anyone's going to use that seriously, Jim,

0:48:19.480 --> 0:48:22.200
<v Speaker 3>because of the North Side, I think that they are

0:48:22.760 --> 0:48:25.359
<v Speaker 3>doubting the White Sox or I guess the North Side

0:48:25.400 --> 0:48:28.680
<v Speaker 3>perspective is I wish the Cubs were in the American

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<v Speaker 3>League right because honestly, the Cubs would be maybe the

0:48:32.000 --> 0:48:34.840
<v Speaker 3>best team in the American League gym. They would be

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<v Speaker 3>the number one seed, whereas of right now, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>they're trying to stay ahead of the Phillies, so they

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<v Speaker 3>could be the fourth seed and hosting the Phillies in

0:48:45.160 --> 0:48:48.879
<v Speaker 3>that Wildcard round, which is a very tough three game

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<v Speaker 3>series for the Chicago Cubs.

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<v Speaker 4>So that's like, I guess, behind the.

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<v Speaker 5>Rays, behind the Rays.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think if the Cubs swop places with the

0:48:58.440 --> 0:49:00.399
<v Speaker 3>White Sox, I think the Cubs would find a way

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<v Speaker 3>to have a better record than the race if they

0:49:02.560 --> 0:49:06.319
<v Speaker 3>were more games against the American League. I just I

0:49:06.360 --> 0:49:08.360
<v Speaker 3>feel like the Cubs are better than the race. So

0:49:08.440 --> 0:49:11.040
<v Speaker 3>that's maybe another hot take for me, but that's just

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<v Speaker 3>how I feel. So I think that in the Chicago

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<v Speaker 3>where it's like there's people in the Northside still don't

0:49:20.280 --> 0:49:22.520
<v Speaker 3>know what to make of the White Sox. Where from

0:49:22.600 --> 0:49:25.759
<v Speaker 3>a White Sox perspective is I'm glad the teams in

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<v Speaker 3>the American League don't have to worry about the Brewers,

0:49:28.320 --> 0:49:31.360
<v Speaker 3>don't have to worry about the Dodgers or the Braves

0:49:32.239 --> 0:49:36.680
<v Speaker 3>or the Phillies. Like there's some really really strong teams.

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<v Speaker 3>Like both teams have quite the I don't know, I

0:49:40.960 --> 0:49:43.880
<v Speaker 3>don't want to continue using the word gauntlet, but they

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<v Speaker 3>got a tough road to get through in the postseason

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<v Speaker 3>to reach.

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<v Speaker 4>The World Series.

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<v Speaker 3>With the White Sox still defying expectations and the Cubs

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<v Speaker 3>with just how tough the National League is so earnestly, No,

0:49:57.520 --> 0:50:01.280
<v Speaker 3>if anyone does that, I think it's just your standard

0:50:01.320 --> 0:50:05.279
<v Speaker 3>sports talk radio style, if that makes sense, Jim.

0:50:05.160 --> 0:50:09.480
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, No, it's just there would be just the the

0:50:09.600 --> 0:50:13.040
<v Speaker 5>ramifications of a White Sox Cubs World Series. So when

0:50:13.040 --> 0:50:14.799
<v Speaker 5>you see how charge these are, and we'll see, like

0:50:15.320 --> 0:50:21.319
<v Speaker 5>with both these teams, like in postseason position, just it's

0:50:21.400 --> 0:50:24.400
<v Speaker 5>rare to see them have this kind of stakes or

0:50:24.760 --> 0:50:30.960
<v Speaker 5>have these aspirations, legitimate aspirations so close you're not seeing

0:50:30.960 --> 0:50:34.840
<v Speaker 5>these teams usually contending in late August, playing each other

0:50:34.920 --> 0:50:37.239
<v Speaker 5>head to head. I am curious to like what a

0:50:37.320 --> 0:50:40.640
<v Speaker 5>fight situation is gonna be at Wrigley or around the park,

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<v Speaker 5>just maybe not like sometimes these weekday series have a

0:50:44.080 --> 0:50:47.000
<v Speaker 5>way of muting the behavior just because they won't have

0:50:47.040 --> 0:50:50.200
<v Speaker 5>the all day tailgating, especially a day game and a Wednesday.

0:50:50.239 --> 0:50:52.920
<v Speaker 5>But in terms like a post season preview, I think

0:50:52.960 --> 0:50:55.719
<v Speaker 5>like this is probably the closest to kind of understanding

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<v Speaker 5>what the crowd looks like, how charged the atmosphere is

0:51:00.080 --> 0:51:02.600
<v Speaker 5>when both teams are good, and both teams are playing

0:51:02.640 --> 0:51:06.440
<v Speaker 5>for more than just trying to get the temporary Crosstown

0:51:06.560 --> 0:51:09.280
<v Speaker 5>Cup breaking rights that normally the only thing is writing

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<v Speaker 5>on these games.

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<v Speaker 4>The White Sox are going to be hyped. So I

0:51:13.520 --> 0:51:15.560
<v Speaker 4>know the Cubs are the more veteran team and they're

0:51:15.560 --> 0:51:18.279
<v Speaker 4>more even keeled, but.

0:51:18.440 --> 0:51:21.399
<v Speaker 3>This White Sox team will be hyped for these games

0:51:21.440 --> 0:51:24.040
<v Speaker 3>at Wrigleyfield. So it should be a fun three game

0:51:24.160 --> 0:51:27.440
<v Speaker 3>series between the White Sox and the Cubs. And of

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<v Speaker 3>course we'll be recapping all these games on soxmachine dot com,

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<v Speaker 3>so follow along with us, and then we'll have the

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<v Speaker 3>midweek podcast episode recapping what happened between the White Sox

0:51:38.040 --> 0:51:40.959
<v Speaker 3>and Cubs, and then look ahead to this upcoming four

0:51:41.040 --> 0:51:43.880
<v Speaker 3>game weekend. I'm just going to call it the makeup

0:51:43.880 --> 0:51:46.640
<v Speaker 3>game against Atlanta and then the three games against the

0:51:46.640 --> 0:51:48.600
<v Speaker 3>New York Mets. But that will do it for this

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